| DC 180: Winter 1911 Adjucation - MattKelly (Jan 25, 2009, 10:15 am) |
I will again put forward the following end-game proposal: France/Germany.
I'm sorry but Austria has done nothing to warrant being included in the win.
-Matt-
--- On Sun, 1/25/09, Steve Caponigri <scaponig(at)yahoo.com> wrote:
From: Steve Caponigri <scaponig(at)yahoo.com>
Subject: DC 180: Winter 1911 Adjucation
To: "Mike Cox" <mickstagman(at)aol.com>, dc180(at)diplomaticcorp.com, "Mikael Johansson" <m_don_j(at)hotmail.com>, "Matt Kelly" <kelly058(at)verizon.net>, "Alex MacBain" <wharf.rats117(at)gmail.com>, "Jorge Saralegui" <jorgesaralegui(at)verizon.net>, "Archer Smith" <archer280(at)gmail.com>
Cc: "Steve Lytton" <stevelytton(at)gmail.com>, "Former Trout" <former.trout(at)gmail.com>
Date: Sunday, January 25, 2009, 7:55 AM
Spring orders due on Friday, Jan 31, at 23:59 GMT
Thanks!
Steve
Austria:
Build A Vienna
France:
Build A Marseilles
Germany:
Build waived
Build waived
Build waived
Russia:
Remove A Rumania
Turkey:
Build A Ankara
[Reply] |
| dc231 Spring reminder - notasb (Jan 25, 2009, 8:22 am) |
Spring '03 is due Monday Jan 26th 8 AM CST (GMT -6) 1400 GMT
If I haven't acknowledged your orders I haven't received them.
Chrisitne
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Douglas Adams[Reply] |
| DC 180: Winter 1911 Adjucation - scaponig (Jan 25, 2009, 6:56 am) |
Spring orders due on Friday, Jan 31, at 23:59 GMT
Thanks!
Steve
Austria:
Build A Vienna
France:
Build A Marseilles
Germany:
Build waived
Build waived
Build waived
Russia:
Remove A Rumania
Turkey:
Build A Ankara[Reply] |
| DC 180: Winter 1911 Adjucation (dc180) MattKelly Jan 25, 10:15 am |
I will again put forward the following end-game proposal: France/Germany.
I'm sorry but Austria has done nothing to warrant being included in the win.
-Matt-
--- On Sun, 1/25/09, Steve Caponigri <scaponig(at)yahoo.com> wrote:
From: Steve Caponigri <scaponig(at)yahoo.com>
Subject: DC 180: Winter 1911 Adjucation
To: "Mike Cox" <mickstagman(at)aol.com>, dc180(at)diplomaticcorp.com, "Mikael Johansson" <m_don_j(at)hotmail.com>, "Matt Kelly" <kelly058(at)verizon.net>, "Alex MacBain" <wharf.rats117(at)gmail.com>, "Jorge Saralegui" <jorgesaralegui(at)verizon.net>, "Archer Smith" <archer280(at)gmail.com>
Cc: "Steve Lytton" <stevelytton(at)gmail.com>, "Former Trout" <former.trout(at)gmail.com>
Date: Sunday, January 25, 2009, 7:55 AM
Spring orders due on Friday, Jan 31, at 23:59 GMT
Thanks!
Steve
Austria:
Build A Vienna
France:
Build A Marseilles
Germany:
Build waived
Build waived
Build waived
Russia:
Remove A Rumania
Turkey:
Build A Ankara
|
| DC 180: Winter 1911 Adjucation (dc180) txurce Jan 25, 11:38 am |
Matt,
Has it crossed your mind that I have to agree with you and vote against my own interests for your draw proposal to pass? And that this is your last turn before elimination? Why are you wasting your time - just hoping that I'll get squeezed out after you're gone? Who knows - that's a really strong, well-laid out argument you made. France and Germany have clearly seen some value in my contribution so far, but maybe they'll be swayed by your irrefutable logic and ask me to step aside. Then again, maybe someone will explain to you how this game is really played in an EGS.
Jorge
On Sun, Jan 25, 2009 at 8:14 AM, Matthew Kelly <kelly058(at)verizon.net ([email]kelly058(at)verizon.net[/email])> wrote:
I will again put forward the following end-game proposal: France/Germany.
I'm sorry but Austria has done nothing to warrant being included in the win.
-Matt-
--- On Sun, 1/25/09, Steve Caponigri <scaponig(at)yahoo.com ([email]scaponig(at)yahoo.com[/email])> wrote:
[quote:39372e3d54]From: Steve Caponigri <scaponig(at)yahoo.com ([email]scaponig(at)yahoo.com[/email])>
Subject: DC 180: Winter 1911 Adjucation
To: "Mike Cox" <mickstagman(at)aol.com ([email]mickstagman(at)aol.com[/email])>, dc180(at)diplomaticcorp.com ([email]dc180(at)diplomaticcorp.com[/email]), "Mikael Johansson" <m_don_j(at)hotmail.com ([email]m_don_j(at)hotmail.com[/email])>, "Matt Kelly" <kelly058(at)verizon.net ([email]kelly058(at)verizon.net[/email])>, "Alex MacBain" <wharf.rats117(at)gmail.com ([email]wharf.rats117(at)gmail.com[/email])>, "Jorge Saralegui" <jorgesaralegui(at)verizon.net ([email]jorgesaralegui(at)verizon.net[/email])>, "Archer Smith" <archer280(at)gmail.com ([email]archer280(at)gmail.com[/email])>
Cc: "Steve Lytton" <stevelytton(at)gmail.com ([email]stevelytton(at)gmail.com[/email])>, "Former Trout" <former.trout(at)gmail.com ([email]former.trout(at)gmail.com[/email])>
Date: Sunday, January 25, 2009, 7:55 AM
Spring orders due on Friday, Jan 31, at 23:59 GMT
Thanks!
Steve
Austria:
Build A Vienna
France:
Build A Marseilles
Germany:
Build waived
Build waived
Build waived
Russia:
Remove A Rumania
Turkey:
Build A Ankara
[/quote:39372e3d54] |
| DC 180: Winter 1911 Adjucation (dc180) MattKelly Jan 25, 11:59 am |
Jorge,
From the tenor of your e-mail I have probably been playing this game a lot longer than you have. I'm not disputing your post. What I am saying is that your play in this game, which I have looked at prior to my joining it, does not warrant your inclusion in the tie. Since playing on this site I have turned down my inclusion in a tie because I didn't think my play was good enough and to be included would detract from the good play of others. That is how I look at end games. Not asking you to agree with it just understand it. It comes with age.
-Matt-
--- On Sun, 1/25/09, Jorge Saralegui <jmsaralegui(at)gmail.com> wrote:
From: Jorge Saralegui <jmsaralegui(at)gmail.com>
Subject: Re: DC 180: Winter 1911 Adjucation
To: kelly058(at)verizon.net
Cc: "Mike Cox" <mickstagman(at)aol.com>, dc180(at)diplomaticcorp.com, "Mikael Johansson" <m_don_j(at)hotmail.com>, "Alex MacBain" <wharf.rats117(at)gmail.com>, "Jorge Saralegui" <jorgesaralegui(at)verizon.net>, "Archer Smith" <archer280(at)gmail.com>, "Steve Caponigri" <scaponig(at)yahoo.com>, "Steve Lytton" <stevelytton(at)gmail.com>, "Former Trout" <former.trout(at)gmail.com>
Date: Sunday, January 25, 2009, 12:37 PM
Matt,
Has it crossed your mind that I have to agree with you and vote against my own interests for your draw proposal to pass? And that this is your last turn before elimination? Why are you wasting your time - just hoping that I'll get squeezed out after you're gone? Who knows - that's a really strong, well-laid out argument you made. France and Germany have clearly seen some value in my contribution so far, but maybe they'll be swayed by your irrefutable logic and ask me to step aside. Then again, maybe someone will explain to you how this game is really played in an EGS.
Jorge
On Sun, Jan 25, 2009 at 8:14 AM, Matthew Kelly <kelly058(at)verizon.net ([email]kelly058(at)verizon.net[/email])> wrote:
[quote:735034158d] I will again put forward the following end-game proposal: France/Germany.
I'm sorry but Austria has done nothing to warrant being included in the win.
-Matt-
--- On Sun, 1/25/09, Steve Caponigri <scaponig(at)yahoo.com ([email]scaponig(at)yahoo.com[/email])> wrote:
[quote:735034158d]From: Steve Caponigri <scaponig(at)yahoo.com ([email]scaponig(at)yahoo.com[/email])>
Subject: DC 180: Winter 1911 Adjucation
To: "Mike Cox" <mickstagman(at)aol.com ([email]mickstagman(at)aol.com[/email])>, dc180(at)diplomaticcorp.com ([email]dc180(at)diplomaticcorp.com[/email]), "Mikael Johansson" <m_don_j(at)hotmail.com ([email]m_don_j(at)hotmail.com[/email])>, "Matt Kelly" <kelly058(at)verizon.net ([email]kelly058(at)verizon.net[/email])>, "Alex MacBain" <wharf.rats117(at)gmail.com ([email]wharf.rats117(at)gmail.com[/email])>, "Jorge Saralegui" <jorgesaralegui(at)verizon.net ([email]jorgesaralegui(at)verizon.net[/email])>, "Archer Smith" <archer280(at)gmail.com ([email]archer280(at)gmail.com[/email])>
Cc: "Steve Lytton" <stevelytton(at)gmail.com ([email]stevelytton(at)gmail.com[/email])>, "Former Trout" <former.trout(at)gmail.com ([email]former.trout(at)gmail.com[/email])>
Date: Sunday, January 25, 2009, 7:55 AM
Spring orders due on Friday, Jan 31, at 23:59 GMT
Thanks!
Steve
Austria:
Build A Vienna
France:
Build A Marseilles
Germany:
Build waived
Build waived
Build waived
Russia:
Remove A Rumania
Turkey:
Build A Ankara
[/quote:735034158d]
[/quote:735034158d] |
| DC 180: Winter 1911 Adjucation (dc180) scaponig Jan 25, 12:20 pm |
Actually guys, I forgot that there were two draw proposals on the table, due with Spring orders...no real surprise what the two are:
F/G
A/F/G
--- On Sun, 1/25/09, Matthew Kelly <kelly058(at)verizon.net> wrote:
From: Matthew Kelly <kelly058(at)verizon.net>
Subject: Re: DC 180: Winter 1911 Adjucation
To: "Jorge Saralegui" <jmsaralegui(at)gmail.com>
Cc: "Mike Cox" <mickstagman(at)aol.com>, dc180(at)diplomaticcorp.com, "Mikael Johansson" <m_don_j(at)hotmail.com>, "Alex MacBain" <wharf.rats117(at)gmail.com>, "Jorge Saralegui" <jorgesaralegui(at)verizon.net>, "Archer Smith" <archer280(at)gmail.com>, "Steve Caponigri" <scaponig(at)yahoo.com>, "Steve Lytton" <stevelytton(at)gmail.com>, "Former Trout" <former.trout(at)gmail.com>
Date: Sunday, January 25, 2009, 11:58 AM
Jorge,
From the tenor of your e-mail I have probably been playing this game a lot longer than you have. I'm not disputing your post. What I am saying is that your play in this game, which I have looked at prior to my joining it, does not warrant your inclusion in the tie. Since playing on this site I have turned down my inclusion in a tie because I didn't think my play was good enough and to be included would detract from the good play of others. That is how I look at end games. Not asking you to agree with it just understand it. It comes with age.
-Matt-
--- On Sun, 1/25/09, Jorge Saralegui <jmsaralegui(at)gmail.com> wrote:
[quote:bc948c6b10]From: Jorge Saralegui <jmsaralegui(at)gmail.com>
Subject: Re: DC 180: Winter 1911 Adjucation
To: kelly058(at)verizon.net
Cc: "Mike Cox" <mickstagman(at)aol.com>, dc180(at)diplomaticcorp.com, "Mikael Johansson" <m_don_j(at)hotmail.com>, "Alex MacBain" <wharf.rats117(at)gmail.com>, "Jorge Saralegui" <jorgesaralegui(at)verizon.net>, "Archer Smith" <archer280(at)gmail.com>, "Steve Caponigri" <scaponig(at)yahoo.com>, "Steve Lytton" <stevelytton(at)gmail.com>, "Former Trout" <former.trout(at)gmail.com>
Date: Sunday, January 25, 2009, 12:37 PM
Matt,
Has it crossed your mind that I have to agree with you and vote against my own interests for your draw proposal to pass? And that this is your last turn before elimination? Why are you wasting your time - just hoping that I'll get squeezed out after you're gone? Who knows - that's a really strong, well-laid out argument you made. France and Germany have clearly seen some value in my contribution so far, but maybe they'll be swayed by your irrefutable logic and ask me to step aside. Then again, maybe someone will explain to you how this game is really played in an EGS.
Jorge
On Sun, Jan 25, 2009 at 8:14 AM, Matthew Kelly <kelly058(at)verizon.net ([email]kelly058(at)verizon.net[/email])> wrote:
[quote:bc948c6b10] I will again put forward the following end-game proposal: France/Germany.
I'm sorry but Austria has done nothing to warrant being included in the win.
-Matt-
--- On Sun, 1/25/09, Steve Caponigri <scaponig(at)yahoo.com ([email]scaponig(at)yahoo.com[/email])> wrote:
[quote:bc948c6b10]From: Steve Caponigri <scaponig(at)yahoo.com ([email]scaponig(at)yahoo.com[/email])>
Subject: DC 180: Winter 1911 Adjucation
To: "Mike Cox" <mickstagman(at)aol.com ([email]mickstagman(at)aol.com[/email])>, dc180(at)diplomaticcorp.com ([email]dc180(at)diplomaticcorp.com[/email]), "Mikael Johansson" <m_don_j(at)hotmail.com ([email]m_don_j(at)hotmail.com[/email])>, "Matt Kelly" <kelly058(at)verizon.net ([email]kelly058(at)verizon.net[/email])>, "Alex MacBain" <wharf.rats117(at)gmail.com ([email]wharf.rats117(at)gmail.com[/email])>, "Jorge Saralegui" <jorgesaralegui(at)verizon.net ([email]jorgesaralegui(at)verizon.net[/email])>, "Archer Smith" <archer280(at)gmail.com ([email]archer280(at)gmail.com[/email])>
Cc: "Steve Lytton" <stevelytton(at)gmail.com ([email]stevelytton(at)gmail.com[/email])>, "Former Trout" <former.trout(at)gmail.com ([email]former.trout(at)gmail.com[/email])>
Date: Sunday, January 25, 2009, 7:55 AM
Spring orders due on Friday, Jan 31, at 23:59 GMT
Thanks!
Steve
Austria:
Build A Vienna
France:
Build A Marseilles
Germany:
Build waived
Build waived
Build waived
Russia:
Remove A Rumania
Turkey:
Build A Ankara
[/quote:bc948c6b10]
[/quote:bc948c6b10]
[/quote:bc948c6b10] |
| DC 180: Winter 1911 Adjucation (dc180) txurce Jan 25, 01:46 pm |
Matt,
You make a lot of assumptions: that I'm younger than you, have been playing for a much shorter time than you, and that I don't deserve to be in this draw. Here are some of mine. Based on your record at DC, you're an average player, and consequently probably have only a vague sense of what goes on behind the scenes on a winning side. In fact, you have exactly one draw to your credit - and in that draw, you and another player who each had ten SCs shared the draw with a player who had four. Sounds eerily familiar to me - and I wonder if that sour memory has anything to do with your gracelessness?
I say gracelessness because you already expressed your uninformed but still valid opinion as to why I don't deserve to be in this draw several turns ago. In doing so, you implicitly said that Alex and Mikael are blind to something that's obvious to you. I would have thought that would give you pause, especially since Mikael is one of the top players at DC - maybe, just maybe, you are missing something. Nevertheless, there was your opinion out in the open for all to read and take in. Clearly neither of those players agreed with you. So here you are, your situation so far gone that you'll be eliminated regardless, giving it one last shot with nothing to gain, and not even putting forth the semblance of an argument... just whining, in your courteous way, because the rest of the game - the part that will no longer involve you - isn't working out in a way that you can comprehend.
Jorge
On Sun, Jan 25, 2009 at 9:58 AM, Matthew Kelly <kelly058(at)verizon.net ([email]kelly058(at)verizon.net[/email])> wrote:
Jorge,
From the tenor of your e-mail I have probably been playing this game a lot longer than you have. I'm not disputing your post. What I am saying is that your play in this game, which I have looked at prior to my joining it, does not warrant your inclusion in the tie. Since playing on this site I have turned down my inclusion in a tie because I didn't think my play was good enough and to be included would detract from the good play of others. That is how I look at end games. Not asking you to agree with it just understand it. It comes with age.
-Matt-
--- On Sun, 1/25/09, Jorge Saralegui <jmsaralegui(at)gmail.com ([email]jmsaralegui(at)gmail.com[/email])> wrote:
[quote:20a91d4c69]From: Jorge Saralegui <jmsaralegui(at)gmail.com ([email]jmsaralegui(at)gmail.com[/email])>
Subject: Re: DC 180: Winter 1911 Adjucation
To: kelly058(at)verizon.net ([email]kelly058(at)verizon.net[/email])
Cc: "Mike Cox" <mickstagman(at)aol.com ([email]mickstagman(at)aol.com[/email])>, dc180(at)diplomaticcorp.com ([email]dc180(at)diplomaticcorp.com[/email]), "Mikael Johansson" <m_don_j(at)hotmail.com ([email]m_don_j(at)hotmail.com[/email])>, "Alex MacBain" <wharf.rats117(at)gmail.com ([email]wharf.rats117(at)gmail.com[/email])>, "Jorge Saralegui" <jorgesaralegui(at)verizon.net ([email]jorgesaralegui(at)verizon.net[/email])>, "Archer Smith" <archer280(at)gmail.com ([email]archer280(at)gmail.com[/email])>, "Steve Caponigri" <scaponig(at)yahoo.com ([email]scaponig(at)yahoo.com[/email])>, "Steve Lytton" <stevelytton(at)gmail.com ([email]stevelytton(at)gmail.com[/email])>, "Former Trout" <former.trout(at)gmail.com ([email]former.trout(at)gmail.com[/email])>
Date: Sunday, January 25, 2009, 12:37 PM
Matt,
Has it crossed your mind that I have to agree with you and vote against my own interests for your draw proposal to pass? And that this is your last turn before elimination? Why are you wasting your time - just hoping that I'll get squeezed out after you're gone? Who knows - that's a really strong, well-laid out argument you made. France and Germany have clearly seen some value in my contribution so far, but maybe they'll be swayed by your irrefutable logic and ask me to step aside. Then again, maybe someone will explain to you how this game is really played in an EGS.
Jorge
On Sun, Jan 25, 2009 at 8:14 AM, Matthew Kelly <kelly058(at)verizon.net ([email]kelly058(at)verizon.net[/email])> wrote:
[quote:20a91d4c69] I will again put forward the following end-game proposal: France/Germany.
I'm sorry but Austria has done nothing to warrant being included in the win.
-Matt-
--- On Sun, 1/25/09, Steve Caponigri <scaponig(at)yahoo.com ([email]scaponig(at)yahoo.com[/email])> wrote:
[quote:20a91d4c69]From: Steve Caponigri <scaponig(at)yahoo.com ([email]scaponig(at)yahoo.com[/email])>
Subject: DC 180: Winter 1911 Adjucation
To: "Mike Cox" <mickstagman(at)aol.com ([email]mickstagman(at)aol.com[/email])>, dc180(at)diplomaticcorp.com ([email]dc180(at)diplomaticcorp.com[/email]), "Mikael Johansson" <m_don_j(at)hotmail.com ([email]m_don_j(at)hotmail.com[/email])>, "Matt Kelly" <kelly058(at)verizon.net ([email]kelly058(at)verizon.net[/email])>, "Alex MacBain" <wharf.rats117(at)gmail.com ([email]wharf.rats117(at)gmail.com[/email])>, "Jorge Saralegui" <jorgesaralegui(at)verizon.net ([email]jorgesaralegui(at)verizon.net[/email])>, "Archer Smith" <archer280(at)gmail.com ([email]archer280(at)gmail.com[/email])>
Cc: "Steve Lytton" <stevelytton(at)gmail.com ([email]stevelytton(at)gmail.com[/email])>, "Former Trout" <former.trout(at)gmail.com ([email]former.trout(at)gmail.com[/email])>
Date: Sunday, January 25, 2009, 7:55 AM
Spring orders due on Friday, Jan 31, at 23:59 GMT
Thanks!
Steve
Austria:
Build A Vienna
France:
Build A Marseilles
Germany:
Build waived
Build waived
Build waived
Russia:
Remove A Rumania
Turkey:
Build A Ankara
[/quote:20a91d4c69]
[/quote:20a91d4c69] [/quote:20a91d4c69] |
| DC 180: Winter 1911 Adjucation (dc180) MattKelly Jan 25, 04:21 pm |
You are no doubt younger than me. In the game you referred to #179 I proposed the draw. France gave up early which skewed the game. Note Germany with (4) centers was included while Italy w/ (6) was not. Based on play and Italy voted for it. In #176 I was offered to be in the tie and refused based on the fact I had came to the game late and in my opinion those in the tie deserved it.
Don't know why your getting your dander up. You are correct that I'm a goner and you will, due to the forbearance of France and Germany, be part of the tie. All I have done is expressed an opinion.
-Matt-
--- On Sun, 1/25/09, Jorge Saralegui <jmsaralegui(at)gmail.com> wrote:
From: Jorge Saralegui <jmsaralegui(at)gmail.com>
Subject: Re: DC 180: Winter 1911 Adjucation
To: kelly058(at)verizon.net
Cc: "Mike Cox" <mickstagman(at)aol.com>, dc180(at)diplomaticcorp.com, "Mikael Johansson" <m_don_j(at)hotmail.com>, "Alex MacBain" <wharf.rats117(at)gmail.com>, "Jorge Saralegui" <jorgesaralegui(at)verizon.net>, "Archer Smith" <archer280(at)gmail.com>, "Steve Caponigri" <scaponig(at)yahoo.com>, "Steve Lytton" <stevelytton(at)gmail.com>, "Former Trout" <former.trout(at)gmail.com>
Date: Sunday, January 25, 2009, 2:45 PM
Matt,
You make a lot of assumptions: that I'm younger than you, have been playing for a much shorter time than you, and that I don't deserve to be in this draw. Here are some of mine. Based on your record at DC, you're an average player, and consequently probably have only a vague sense of what goes on behind the scenes on a winning side. In fact, you have exactly one draw to your credit - and in that draw, you and another player who each had ten SCs shared the draw with a player who had four. Sounds eerily familiar to me - and I wonder if that sour memory has anything to do with your gracelessness?
I say gracelessness because you already expressed your uninformed but still valid opinion as to why I don't deserve to be in this draw several turns ago. In doing so, you implicitly said that Alex and Mikael are blind to something that's obvious to you. I would have thought that would give you pause, especially since Mikael is one of the top players at DC - maybe, just maybe, you are missing something. Nevertheless, there was your opinion out in the open for all to read and take in. Clearly neither of those players agreed with you. So here you are, your situation so far gone that you'll be eliminated regardless, giving it one last shot with nothing to gain, and not even putting forth the semblance of an argument... just whining, in your courteous way, because the rest of the game - the part that will no longer involve you - isn't working out in a way that you can comprehend.
Jorge
On Sun, Jan 25, 2009 at 9:58 AM, Matthew Kelly <kelly058(at)verizon.net ([email]kelly058(at)verizon.net[/email])> wrote:
[quote:31e781b89d] Jorge,
From the tenor of your e-mail I have probably been playing this game a lot longer than you have. I'm not disputing your post. What I am saying is that your play in this game, which I have looked at prior to my joining it, does not warrant your inclusion in the tie. Since playing on this site I have turned down my inclusion in a tie because I didn't think my play was good enough and to be included would detract from the good play of others. That is how I look at end games. Not asking you to agree with it just understand it. It comes with age.
-Matt-
--- On Sun, 1/25/09, Jorge Saralegui <jmsaralegui(at)gmail.com ([email]jmsaralegui(at)gmail.com[/email])> wrote:
[quote:31e781b89d]From: Jorge Saralegui <jmsaralegui(at)gmail.com ([email]jmsaralegui(at)gmail.com[/email])>
Subject: Re: DC 180: Winter 1911 Adjucation
To: kelly058(at)verizon.net ([email]kelly058(at)verizon.net[/email])
Cc: "Mike Cox" <mickstagman(at)aol.com ([email]mickstagman(at)aol.com[/email])>, dc180(at)diplomaticcorp.com ([email]dc180(at)diplomaticcorp.com[/email]), "Mikael Johansson" <m_don_j(at)hotmail.com ([email]m_don_j(at)hotmail.com[/email])>, "Alex MacBain" <wharf.rats117(at)gmail.com ([email]wharf.rats117(at)gmail.com[/email])>, "Jorge Saralegui" <jorgesaralegui(at)verizon.net ([email]jorgesaralegui(at)verizon.net[/email])>, "Archer Smith" <archer280(at)gmail.com ([email]archer280(at)gmail.com[/email])>, "Steve Caponigri" <scaponig(at)yahoo.com ([email]scaponig(at)yahoo.com[/email])>, "Steve Lytton" <stevelytton(at)gmail.com ([email]stevelytton(at)gmail.com[/email])>, "Former Trout" <former.trout(at)gmail.com ([email]former.trout(at)gmail.com[/email])>
Date: Sunday, January 25, 2009, 12:37 PM
Matt,
Has it crossed your mind that I have to agree with you and vote against my own interests for your draw proposal to pass? And that this is your last turn before elimination? Why are you wasting your time - just hoping that I'll get squeezed out after you're gone? Who knows - that's a really strong, well-laid out argument you made. France and Germany have clearly seen some value in my contribution so far, but maybe they'll be swayed by your irrefutable logic and ask me to step aside. Then again, maybe someone will explain to you how this game is really played in an EGS.
Jorge
On Sun, Jan 25, 2009 at 8:14 AM, Matthew Kelly <kelly058(at)verizon.net ([email]kelly058(at)verizon.net[/email])> wrote:
[quote:31e781b89d] I will again put forward the following end-game proposal: France/Germany.
I'm sorry but Austria has done nothing to warrant being included in the win.
-Matt-
--- On Sun, 1/25/09, Steve Caponigri <scaponig(at)yahoo.com ([email]scaponig(at)yahoo.com[/email])> wrote:
[quote:31e781b89d]From: Steve Caponigri <scaponig(at)yahoo.com ([email]scaponig(at)yahoo.com[/email])>
Subject: DC 180: Winter 1911 Adjucation
To: "Mike Cox" <mickstagman(at)aol.com ([email]mickstagman(at)aol.com[/email])>, dc180(at)diplomaticcorp.com ([email]dc180(at)diplomaticcorp.com[/email]), "Mikael Johansson" <m_don_j(at)hotmail.com ([email]m_don_j(at)hotmail.com[/email])>, "Matt Kelly" <kelly058(at)verizon.net ([email]kelly058(at)verizon.net[/email])>, "Alex MacBain" <wharf.rats117(at)gmail.com ([email]wharf.rats117(at)gmail.com[/email])>, "Jorge Saralegui" <jorgesaralegui(at)verizon.net ([email]jorgesaralegui(at)verizon.net[/email])>, "Archer Smith" <archer280(at)gmail.com ([email]archer280(at)gmail.com[/email])>
Cc: "Steve Lytton" <stevelytton(at)gmail.com ([email]stevelytton(at)gmail.com[/email])>, "Former Trout" <former.trout(at)gmail.com ([email]former.trout(at)gmail.com[/email])>
Date: Sunday, January 25, 2009, 7:55 AM
Spring orders due on Friday, Jan 31, at 23:59 GMT
Thanks!
Steve
Austria:
Build A Vienna
France:
Build A Marseilles
Germany:
Build waived
Build waived
Build waived
Russia:
Remove A Rumania
Turkey:
Build A Ankara
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| DC223 - 1903 Winter adjustments - CORRECTION - bielf11 (Jan 24, 2009, 8:08 pm) |
I made a mistake with Russia's build.
Attached files contain the correct version. Will also update DC website.
Winter 1903: again no orders from Austria. It seems that its ruler has vanished.
Leaves me the choice of finding a new one or wait one more season to see whether its ruler resurfaces.
With only one unit left, small chance that a new ruler will stand up. More likely the country will go in Civil Disorder in Spring.
What a shameful end for such a once powerful country.
Adjustments
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Austria: NBR - Auto-disband A Galicia
England: Build F Edinburgh
France: Build F Brest
Russia: Build A Moscow
Next is Spring 1904.
Deadline for Spring orders is Wednesday Jan 28 at 23:00 GMT.
Frank
---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: F Bielschowsky <bielschowsky.f(at)googlemail.com ([email]bielschowsky.f(at)googlemail.com[/email])>
Date: 2009/1/24
Subject: DC223 - 1903 Winter adjustments
To: dc223(at)diplomaticcorp.com ([email]dc223(at)diplomaticcorp.com[/email]), "Doug Wooden (DC223 FRA)" <dougwooden(at)gmail.com ([email]dougwooden(at)gmail.com[/email])>, "Gwilliam, Simon (DC223 ITA)" <simon.gwilliam(at)baesystems.com ([email]simon.gwilliam(at)baesystems.com[/email])>, "Jack McHugh - Flapjack (DC223 AH / DC201 Sverige)" <jwmchughjr(at)gmail.com ([email]jwmchughjr(at)gmail.com[/email])>, "Joao Carvalho (DC223 RUS)" <jpfalcao(at)mac.com ([email]jpfalcao(at)mac.com[/email])>, "Joshua Tag (DC223 TUR)" <sanjat312(at)yahoo.com ([email]sanjat312(at)yahoo.com[/email])>, "Max Victory (DC223 ENG)" <Maxatrest(at)yahoo.co.uk ([email]Maxatrest(at)yahoo.co.uk[/email])>, "Stefan Krekeler (DC223 GER)" <Stefan.Krekeler(at)web.de ([email]Stefan.Krekeler(at)web.de[/email])>
Winter 1903: again no orders from Austria. It seems that its ruler has vanished.
Leaves me the choice of finding a new one or wait one more season to see whether its ruler resurfaces.
With only one unit left, small chance that a new ruler will stand up. More likely the country will go in Civil Disorder in Spring.
What a shameful end for such a once powerful country.
Adjustments
---------------------
Austria: NBR - Auto-disband A Galicia
England: Build F Edinburgh
France: Build F Brest
Russia: Build A Warsaw
Next is Spring 1904.
Deadline for Spring orders is Wednesday Jan 28 at 23:00 GMT.
Frank[Reply] |
| DC223 - 1903 Winter adjustments - bielf11 (Jan 24, 2009, 7:59 pm) |
Winter 1903: again no orders from Austria. It seems that its ruler has vanished.
Leaves me the choice of finding a new one or wait one more season to see whether its ruler resurfaces.
With only one unit left, small chance that a new ruler will stand up. More likely the country will go in Civil Disorder in Spring.
What a shameful end for such a once powerful country.
Adjustments
---------------------
Austria: NBR - Auto-disband A Galicia
England: Build F Edinburgh
France: Build F Brest
Russia: Build A Warsaw
Next is Spring 1904.
Deadline for Spring orders is Wednesday Jan 28 at 23:00 GMT.
Frank[Reply] |
| DC190 - Summer 2009 - worldwidegm at gmail.com (Jan 24, 2009, 4:46 pm) |
China: F Muscat - Red Sea
Oceania: F Fijian Sea - Tasman Sea
Those are the retreats. Let's have Fall 2009 in by Thursday, January 29, 2200GMT.[Reply] |
| DC228 F1901 results - gman (Jan 24, 2009, 4:07 pm) |
Next deadline is Monday the 27th at 11 pm GMT or 9pm New York time Monday.
Results below:
Austria:
F Adriatic Sea - Ionian Sea
A Serbia - Greece (*Bounce*)
A Trieste - Serbia (*Fails*)
England:
F North Sea Convoys A Yorkshire - Denmark
F Norwegian Sea - Norway
A Yorkshire - Denmark
France:
A Burgundy - Belgium (*Bounce*)
A Marseilles - Spain
F Mid-Atlantic Ocean - Portugal
Germany:
F Holland Hold
A Munich - Berlin
A Ruhr - Belgium (*Bounce*)
Italy:
A Apulia Supports A Venice
F Ionian Sea - Tunis
A Venice, no move received
Russia:
F Gulf of Bothnia - Sweden
F Rumania - Sevastopol (*Bounce*)
A Silesia - Munich
A Ukraine - Sevastopol (*Bounce*)
Turkey:
F Black Sea Supports A Constantinople - Bulgaria (*Fails*)
A Bulgaria - Greece (*Bounce*)
A Constantinople - Bulgaria (*Fails*)
Builds:
Austria:
Build
England:
Build
Build
France:
Build
Build
Italy:
Build
Russia:
Build
Build
Build
Turkey:
Build
Let ninemsn property help! Need a new place to rent, share or buy?[Reply] |
| DC219, Retreats are in, Builds & Disband up ne... - m_don_j (Jan 24, 2009, 1:57 pm) |
Heya folks!
Both retreats are in,
F Smy- Eas
A Mar - Bur
And with that, we head off into builds:
England:
Build 1
Russia:
Build 1
Turkey:
Remove 1
Let's have The builds by Monday, Jan 26th, GMT 20:00
If I get them all in early, I will adjudicate ímidiatley.
A General question - Are we keeping a good enough pace, or would you like it faster/slower?
Have fun!
/ Mikael
Hitta bästa boräntan! MSN Privatekonomi[Reply] |
| DC 218 SHIFT LEFT: Winter 1903 results, Sprng 04 d... - packrat (Jan 24, 2009, 1:49 pm) |
England disbands BOH and we move on.
Due to a player absence Spring 1904 orders are due 2/3/09.[Reply] |
| DC215 Fall 1906 Results - MattTheLesser (Jan 24, 2009, 1:01 pm) |
An eventful season to say the least! Turkey takes back Ankara to regain
all of his home centers, but loses all his other ones in the process,
Germany claims all of Iberia and takes back Paris before the French can
re-assimilate it, and Italy continues his eastward expansion, increasing
his size by 50%.
Also, the Germans finally break through the final English holdout in
Liverpool, and so we have our second elimination. Thanks you German for
a good game and for sticking out.
Moving forward, we have 3 retreats. However, all of them have only one
option so I have processed them so. Warren, let me know if you wish
yours OTB instead. Mark and Vince, you can just disband the unit in the
winter if you so choose.
Speaking of winter, the deadline will be this coming Tuesday, January
27, at 9 pm eastern. Adjustments due are listed below the adjudication.
Matt
Adjudication:
England:
A Liverpool Hold (*Dislodged*)
France:
F Brest Hold
A Marseilles Hold
A Paris Hold (*Dislodged*)
Germany:
A Berlin - Munich (*Bounce*)
A Burgundy - Paris
A Edinburgh - Liverpool
A Gascony - Spain
F Irish Sea Supports A Edinburgh - Liverpool
A Kiel - Denmark (*Bounce*)
F Mid-Atlantic Ocean - Portugal
A Picardy Supports A Burgundy - Paris
A Ruhr - Munich (*Bounce*)
Italy:
F Aegean Sea - Greece
A Budapest Supports A Trieste - Vienna
F Ionian Sea Supports F Aegean Sea - Greece
A Serbia Supports A Budapest
A Trieste - Vienna
A Tyrolia Supports A Trieste - Vienna
Russia:
A Ankara - Constantinople (*Disbanded*)
F Black Sea Supports F Rumania - Bulgaria(ec)
F Denmark - Kiel (*Fails*)
A Galicia - Rumania
F North Sea - Edinburgh
F Norway - North Sea
F Rumania - Bulgaria(ec)
A Sevastopol - Armenia
A Silesia - Galicia
A Sweden - Denmark (*Bounce*)
A Vienna Hold (*Dislodged*)
Turkey:
F Bulgaria(sc) - Constantinople
F Constantinople - Ankara
A Greece - Bulgaria (*Dislodged*)
A Smyrna Supports F Constantinople - Ankara
Adjustments:
France:
Remove
Germany:
Build
Italy:
Build
Build
Build
Turkey:
Remove[Reply] |
| dc210 s07 results! - FuzzyLogic (Jan 24, 2009, 11:22 am) |
Hey all, France has correctly pointed out that he had 2 fleets in Bre,
so the move to Gal does happen. He had one there, then built another!
(these darn rules allowing screwy things like that)
NEXT: Fall 07, due Wed 1/28, 10am Pacific
Austria:
1) A Ven move Apus
2) A Vie move Tri
3) A Vie support A Tyr hold
4) A Rum support A Bul
5) A Bul support F Con
6) A War hold
7) A Tyr hold
 F Tri move Adr
9) F Adr move Ion
10) F Apu move Cal
11) F Con support A Bul
Britain:
A (Wal) - Wsx
F (Wsx) - ENC
F (NTH) s F (Wex) - ENC
F (ARC) s F (NTH) stand
F (Kie) s Russian A (Pru) - Ber
F (Den) s F Kie) stand
France:
F Bre - PSM
F Bre - Gal
F WMS - TyS
A Swi - Pie
A Lor - Swi
A Col -Swa
A Hol - Col
F Bel - Hol
F Eng - Bel
Germany:
F Berlin -> Kiel (*Disbanded*)
Italy:
A Bav to Boh
A Rom attack Ven
Russia:
A Cau - Sev
F Bla - Con (*Fails*)
F Mrm S F Bla - Con
A Pru - Ber
f SBS S A Pru - Ber
F Lvn - NBS[Reply] |
| DC222 Two Steps To Anarchy - Fall 1903 - The Bulga... - BabakTalebi (Jan 24, 2009, 8:16 am) |
Lets all say it at once "Babak you are an idiot"
wow. how could I mess THAT up!
On Sat, Jan 24, 2009 at 4:44 AM, Former Trout <former.trout(at)gmail.com ([email]former.trout(at)gmail.com[/email])> wrote:
The Bulgarian Bowtie:
1 shot Aegean Sea Sours
1 shot Serbian Malt Whiskey
1 shot Russian Vodka
1 Grecian Olive
1 ounce Italian Aggression
Mix Aegean Sea Sours with Serbian Malt Whiskey
Cut Grecian Olive with Italian Aggression and place halves in shot glass
Filter Russian Vodka through Romanian screen
Loosen collar, drink and try not to drool on yourself
---------------------------------
Indeed, the Turks find the Italians have provided their army in Bulgaria with a new issue of concrete shoes. Meanwhile, the English contingent in Wales also finds its way off the board. And things get hot for the Germans in Norway - though the Kaiser gets some back in Swedish currency.
One retreat is the result of all that - the aforementioned German retreat from the Nordic fjords. Deadline for Germany's retreat will be set for Monday, Jan 26th (11:59 PM GMT). Builds will be due a day after that on Tuesday, Jan 27th (11:59 PM GMT).
Please let me know if you spot any errors. Cheers folks!
Drunk-as-all-hell Trout
Movement results for Fall of 1903. (DC222 03 FALL)
England: F Clyde - Liverpool (*Bounce*).
England: F North Sea - London.
England: F Wales - Liverpool (*Disbanded*).
France: A Belgium Hold.
France: F English Channel Convoys A Picardy - Wales.
France: A Gascony Hold.
France: F Irish Sea Supports A Picardy - Wales.
France: F Mid-Atlantic Ocean Supports F English Channel.
France: A Picardy - Wales.
Germany: F Baltic Sea - Sweden.
Germany: F Denmark Supports F Baltic Sea - Sweden.
Germany: A Holland Hold.
Germany: A Kiel Supports A Holland.
Germany: F Norway Hold (*Dislodged*).
Germany: A Silesia - Warsaw (*Bounce*).
Italy: F Aegean Sea - Bulgaria(sc).
Italy: A Albania Supports F Aegean Sea - Greece (*Void*).
Italy: F Ionian Sea - Greece (*Fails*).
Italy: A Serbia Supports F Aegean Sea - Bulgaria(sc).
Italy: A Trieste Supports A Serbia.
Italy: F Tunis - Ionian Sea (*Fails*).
Italy: F Tyrrhenian Sea - Tunis (*Fails*).
Russia: A Budapest Supports A Rumania - Galicia.
Russia: A Moscow - Warsaw (*Bounce*).
Russia: A Rumania - Galicia.
Russia: F Sevastopol Supports A Ukraine - Rumania.
Russia: A St Petersburg Supports F Sweden - Norway.
Russia: F Sweden - Norway.
Russia: A Ukraine - Rumania.
Turkey: F Ankara - Constantinople.
Turkey: A Bulgaria - Serbia (*Disbanded*).
Turkey: F Constantinople - Aegean Sea.
Turkey: A Greece Supports A Bulgaria - Serbia (*Cut*).
Turkey: A Smyrna Hold.
The following units were dislodged:
German F Norway can retreat to Barents Sea or Norwegian Sea or North Sea or Skagerrak.
Unit locations:
England: F Clyde, F London, F Wales.
France: A Belgium, F English Channel, A Gascony, F Irish Sea, F Mid-Atlantic
Ocean, A Wales.
Germany: F Denmark, A Holland, A Kiel, F Norway, A Silesia, F Sweden.
Italy: A Albania, F Bulgaria(sc), F Ionian Sea, A Serbia, A Trieste, F
Tunis, F Tyrrhenian Sea.
Russia: A Budapest, A Galicia, A Moscow, F Norway, A Rumania, F Sevastopol,
A St Petersburg.
Turkey: F Aegean Sea, A Bulgaria, F Constantinople, A Greece, A Smyrna.
Ownership of supply centers:
England: Edinburgh, Liverpool, London.
France: Belgium, Brest, Marseilles, Paris, Portugal, Spain.
Germany: Berlin, Denmark, Holland, Kiel, Munich, Sweden.
Italy: Bulgaria, Naples, Rome, Serbia, Trieste, Tunis, Venice, Vienna.
Russia: Budapest, Moscow, Norway, Rumania, Sevastopol, St Petersburg, Warsaw.
Turkey: Ankara, Constantinople, Greece, Smyrna.
Austria: 0 Supply centers, 0 Units: Builds 0 units.
England: 3 Supply centers, 2 Units: Builds 1 unit.
France: 6 Supply centers, 6 Units: Builds 0 units.
Germany: 6 Supply centers, 6 Units: Builds 0 units.
Italy: 8 Supply centers, 7 Units: Builds 1 unit.
Russia: 7 Supply centers, 7 Units: Builds 0 units.
Turkey: 4 Supply centers, 4 Units: Builds 0 units.
NEXT DEADLINE: EARLY WINTER 1903 RETREATS DUE MONDAY, JAN 26TH (11:59 PM GMT)!!
WINTER 1903 ADJUSTMENTS DUE TUESDAY, JAN 27TH (11:59 PM GMT)!!
--
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"YOU have the power!"
~ Howard Dean M.D.
"Yes we can!"
~ Barack Obama
---------------------------------[Reply] |
| DC201 (Viking) - Winter 961 adjustments - bielf11 (Jan 24, 2009, 7:44 am) |
Winter 961:
- Burgundy: Build F Avignon
- Sverige: Build A Birka
With Steve/Norge away Spring 962 deadline is Friday Jan 30 at 23:00 GMT.
And for those who haven't voted yet, a quick reminder:
the following End-game proposals are up for voting for the Spring 962 deadline:
1) DIAS
2) 2-way Draw ERE/NOR
3) 3-way Draw ERE/NOR/SLAV
4) NOR concession
Send them in before the Spring deadline.
Frank[Reply] |
| DC222 Two Steps To Anarchy - Fall 1903 - The Bulga... - former.trout (Jan 24, 2009, 3:45 am) |
The Bulgarian Bowtie:
1 shot Aegean Sea Sours
1 shot Serbian Malt Whiskey
1 shot Russian Vodka
1 Grecian Olive
1 ounce Italian Aggression
Mix Aegean Sea Sours with Serbian Malt Whiskey
Cut Grecian Olive with Italian Aggression and place halves in shot glass
Filter Russian Vodka through Romanian screen
Loosen collar, drink and try not to drool on yourself
---------------------------------
Indeed, the Turks find the Italians have provided their army in Bulgaria with a new issue of concrete shoes. Meanwhile, the English contingent in Wales also finds its way off the board. And things get hot for the Germans in Norway - though the Kaiser gets some back in Swedish currency.
One retreat is the result of all that - the aforementioned German retreat from the Nordic fjords. Deadline for Germany's retreat will be set for Monday, Jan 26th (11:59 PM GMT). Builds will be due a day after that on Tuesday, Jan 27th (11:59 PM GMT).
Please let me know if you spot any errors. Cheers folks!
Drunk-as-all-hell Trout
Movement results for Fall of 1903. (DC222 03 FALL)
England: F Clyde - Liverpool (*Bounce*).
England: F North Sea - London.
England: F Wales - Liverpool (*Disbanded*).
France: A Belgium Hold.
France: F English Channel Convoys A Picardy - Wales.
France: A Gascony Hold.
France: F Irish Sea Supports A Picardy - Wales.
France: F Mid-Atlantic Ocean Supports F English Channel.
France: A Picardy - Wales.
Germany: F Baltic Sea - Sweden.
Germany: F Denmark Supports F Baltic Sea - Sweden.
Germany: A Holland Hold.
Germany: A Kiel Supports A Holland.
Germany: F Norway Hold (*Dislodged*).
Germany: A Silesia - Warsaw (*Bounce*).
Italy: F Aegean Sea - Bulgaria(sc).
Italy: A Albania Supports F Aegean Sea - Greece (*Void*).
Italy: F Ionian Sea - Greece (*Fails*).
Italy: A Serbia Supports F Aegean Sea - Bulgaria(sc).
Italy: A Trieste Supports A Serbia.
Italy: F Tunis - Ionian Sea (*Fails*).
Italy: F Tyrrhenian Sea - Tunis (*Fails*).
Russia: A Budapest Supports A Rumania - Galicia.
Russia: A Moscow - Warsaw (*Bounce*).
Russia: A Rumania - Galicia.
Russia: F Sevastopol Supports A Ukraine - Rumania.
Russia: A St Petersburg Supports F Sweden - Norway.
Russia: F Sweden - Norway.
Russia: A Ukraine - Rumania.
Turkey: F Ankara - Constantinople.
Turkey: A Bulgaria - Serbia (*Disbanded*).
Turkey: F Constantinople - Aegean Sea.
Turkey: A Greece Supports A Bulgaria - Serbia (*Cut*).
Turkey: A Smyrna Hold.
The following units were dislodged:
German F Norway can retreat to Barents Sea or Norwegian Sea or North Sea or Skagerrak.
Unit locations:
England: F Clyde, F London, F Wales.
France: A Belgium, F English Channel, A Gascony, F Irish Sea, F Mid-Atlantic
Ocean, A Wales.
Germany: F Denmark, A Holland, A Kiel, F Norway, A Silesia, F Sweden.
Italy: A Albania, F Bulgaria(sc), F Ionian Sea, A Serbia, A Trieste, F
Tunis, F Tyrrhenian Sea.
Russia: A Budapest, A Galicia, A Moscow, F Norway, A Rumania, F Sevastopol,
A St Petersburg.
Turkey: F Aegean Sea, A Bulgaria, F Constantinople, A Greece, A Smyrna.
Ownership of supply centers:
England: Edinburgh, Liverpool, London.
France: Belgium, Brest, Marseilles, Paris, Portugal, Spain.
Germany: Berlin, Denmark, Holland, Kiel, Munich, Sweden.
Italy: Bulgaria, Naples, Rome, Serbia, Trieste, Tunis, Venice, Vienna.
Russia: Budapest, Moscow, Norway, Rumania, Sevastopol, St Petersburg, Warsaw.
Turkey: Ankara, Constantinople, Greece, Smyrna.
Austria: 0 Supply centers, 0 Units: Builds 0 units.
England: 3 Supply centers, 2 Units: Builds 1 unit.
France: 6 Supply centers, 6 Units: Builds 0 units.
Germany: 6 Supply centers, 6 Units: Builds 0 units.
Italy: 8 Supply centers, 7 Units: Builds 1 unit.
Russia: 7 Supply centers, 7 Units: Builds 0 units.
Turkey: 4 Supply centers, 4 Units: Builds 0 units.
NEXT DEADLINE: EARLY WINTER 1903 RETREATS DUE MONDAY, JAN 26TH (11:59 PM GMT)!!
WINTER 1903 ADJUSTMENTS DUE TUESDAY, JAN 27TH (11:59 PM GMT)!![Reply] |
| DC222 Two Steps To Anarchy - Fall 1903 - The Bulgarian Bowtie (dc222) BabakTalebi Jan 24, 08:16 am |
Lets all say it at once "Babak you are an idiot"
wow. how could I mess THAT up!
On Sat, Jan 24, 2009 at 4:44 AM, Former Trout <former.trout(at)gmail.com ([email]former.trout(at)gmail.com[/email])> wrote:
The Bulgarian Bowtie:
1 shot Aegean Sea Sours
1 shot Serbian Malt Whiskey
1 shot Russian Vodka
1 Grecian Olive
1 ounce Italian Aggression
Mix Aegean Sea Sours with Serbian Malt Whiskey
Cut Grecian Olive with Italian Aggression and place halves in shot glass
Filter Russian Vodka through Romanian screen
Loosen collar, drink and try not to drool on yourself
---------------------------------
Indeed, the Turks find the Italians have provided their army in Bulgaria with a new issue of concrete shoes. Meanwhile, the English contingent in Wales also finds its way off the board. And things get hot for the Germans in Norway - though the Kaiser gets some back in Swedish currency.
One retreat is the result of all that - the aforementioned German retreat from the Nordic fjords. Deadline for Germany's retreat will be set for Monday, Jan 26th (11:59 PM GMT). Builds will be due a day after that on Tuesday, Jan 27th (11:59 PM GMT).
Please let me know if you spot any errors. Cheers folks!
Drunk-as-all-hell Trout
Movement results for Fall of 1903. (DC222 03 FALL)
England: F Clyde - Liverpool (*Bounce*).
England: F North Sea - London.
England: F Wales - Liverpool (*Disbanded*).
France: A Belgium Hold.
France: F English Channel Convoys A Picardy - Wales.
France: A Gascony Hold.
France: F Irish Sea Supports A Picardy - Wales.
France: F Mid-Atlantic Ocean Supports F English Channel.
France: A Picardy - Wales.
Germany: F Baltic Sea - Sweden.
Germany: F Denmark Supports F Baltic Sea - Sweden.
Germany: A Holland Hold.
Germany: A Kiel Supports A Holland.
Germany: F Norway Hold (*Dislodged*).
Germany: A Silesia - Warsaw (*Bounce*).
Italy: F Aegean Sea - Bulgaria(sc).
Italy: A Albania Supports F Aegean Sea - Greece (*Void*).
Italy: F Ionian Sea - Greece (*Fails*).
Italy: A Serbia Supports F Aegean Sea - Bulgaria(sc).
Italy: A Trieste Supports A Serbia.
Italy: F Tunis - Ionian Sea (*Fails*).
Italy: F Tyrrhenian Sea - Tunis (*Fails*).
Russia: A Budapest Supports A Rumania - Galicia.
Russia: A Moscow - Warsaw (*Bounce*).
Russia: A Rumania - Galicia.
Russia: F Sevastopol Supports A Ukraine - Rumania.
Russia: A St Petersburg Supports F Sweden - Norway.
Russia: F Sweden - Norway.
Russia: A Ukraine - Rumania.
Turkey: F Ankara - Constantinople.
Turkey: A Bulgaria - Serbia (*Disbanded*).
Turkey: F Constantinople - Aegean Sea.
Turkey: A Greece Supports A Bulgaria - Serbia (*Cut*).
Turkey: A Smyrna Hold.
The following units were dislodged:
German F Norway can retreat to Barents Sea or Norwegian Sea or North Sea or Skagerrak.
Unit locations:
England: F Clyde, F London, F Wales.
France: A Belgium, F English Channel, A Gascony, F Irish Sea, F Mid-Atlantic
Ocean, A Wales.
Germany: F Denmark, A Holland, A Kiel, F Norway, A Silesia, F Sweden.
Italy: A Albania, F Bulgaria(sc), F Ionian Sea, A Serbia, A Trieste, F
Tunis, F Tyrrhenian Sea.
Russia: A Budapest, A Galicia, A Moscow, F Norway, A Rumania, F Sevastopol,
A St Petersburg.
Turkey: F Aegean Sea, A Bulgaria, F Constantinople, A Greece, A Smyrna.
Ownership of supply centers:
England: Edinburgh, Liverpool, London.
France: Belgium, Brest, Marseilles, Paris, Portugal, Spain.
Germany: Berlin, Denmark, Holland, Kiel, Munich, Sweden.
Italy: Bulgaria, Naples, Rome, Serbia, Trieste, Tunis, Venice, Vienna.
Russia: Budapest, Moscow, Norway, Rumania, Sevastopol, St Petersburg, Warsaw.
Turkey: Ankara, Constantinople, Greece, Smyrna.
Austria: 0 Supply centers, 0 Units: Builds 0 units.
England: 3 Supply centers, 2 Units: Builds 1 unit.
France: 6 Supply centers, 6 Units: Builds 0 units.
Germany: 6 Supply centers, 6 Units: Builds 0 units.
Italy: 8 Supply centers, 7 Units: Builds 1 unit.
Russia: 7 Supply centers, 7 Units: Builds 0 units.
Turkey: 4 Supply centers, 4 Units: Builds 0 units.
NEXT DEADLINE: EARLY WINTER 1903 RETREATS DUE MONDAY, JAN 26TH (11:59 PM GMT)!!
WINTER 1903 ADJUSTMENTS DUE TUESDAY, JAN 27TH (11:59 PM GMT)!!
--
---------------------------------
"YOU have the power!"
~ Howard Dean M.D.
"Yes we can!"
~ Barack Obama
--------------------------------- |
| DC 217, Fall 1904 - alwayshunted (Jan 23, 2009, 11:36 pm) |
Hey all, here is fall.
Wow, another interesting turn. We have some more press.... see below.
We had a couple of Russian retreats due, but I already had a retreat order from our Russian player for the unit where he had an option. I have adjudicated the autumn turn, and we move on to winter 1904..... thanks Simon.
Remarkably, considering all of the jostling, only France has adjustment orders due. I will adjudicate early if I get them marked final, but the deadline is on Tuesday, 22:00 MST.
Here it is:
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ORDERS RECEIVED:
England:
A Ruhr - Supports German A Kiel - Munich
F Mid-Atlantic Ocean – Western Mediterranean
F Sweden – Norway
F North Sea- Supports England F Sweden - Norway
F Western Mediterranean – Tunis
F Norwegian Sea - Barents Sea
France:
A Berlin Supports A Silesia - Munich
A Burgundy - Belgium
F Clyde - Edinburgh
F Gulf of Lyon - Spain(sc)
A Marseilles - Burgundy
A Spain - Gascony
Germany:
Germany A Finland – St Petersburg
German A Kiel – Munich
German F Baltic Sea – support France A Berlin
Italy:
F Adr -> Ion
F Nap S F Adr -> Ion
F Gre S F Adr -> Ion
F Bul -> Con
A Ser -> Bul
A Ven -> Tus
A Tyr -> Ven
Russia:
FStP S FNwy-BAR
FNwy-BAR
ARum S ITALIAN A Ser-Bul
AVie-Gal
AMun-Ber
ASil S AMun-Ber
FCon-Ank
AArm S FCon-Ank
Turkey:
F Aegean Sea - Constantinople
A Ankara Supports F Aegean Sea - Constantinople
F Eastern Mediterranean - Smyrna
ADJUDICATION:
England:
F Mid-Atlantic Ocean - Western Mediterranean
F North Sea Supports F Sweden - Norway
F Norwegian Sea - Barents Sea (*Bounce*)
A Ruhr Supports A Kiel - Munich
F Sweden - Norway
F Western Mediterranean - Tunis
France:
A Berlin Supports A Silesia - Munich (*Void*)
A Burgundy - Belgium
F Clyde - Edinburgh
F Gulf of Lyon - Spain(sc)
A Marseilles - Burgundy
A Spain - Gascony
Germany:
F Baltic Sea Supports A Berlin
A Finland - St Petersburg (*Fails*)
A Kiel - Munich
Italy:
F Adriatic Sea - Ionian Sea
F Bulgaria(sc) - Constantinople (*Bounce*)
F Greece Supports F Adriatic Sea - Ionian Sea
F Naples Supports F Adriatic Sea - Ionian Sea
A Serbia - Bulgaria (*Fails*)
A Tyrolia - Venice
A Venice - Tuscany
Russia:
A Armenia Supports F Constantinople - Ankara
F Constantinople - Ankara
A Munich - Berlin (*Dislodged*)
F Norway - Barents Sea (*Dislodged*)
A Rumania Supports A Serbia - Bulgaria
A Silesia Supports A Munich - Berlin
F St Petersburg(nc) Supports F Norway - Barents Sea (*Cut*)
A Vienna - Galicia
Turkey:
F Aegean Sea - Constantinople (*Bounce*)
A Ankara Supports F Aegean Sea - Constantinople (*Disbanded*)
F Eastern Mediterranean - Smyrna
PRESS:
Question: What’s the difference between Germany and a jellyfish? Answer: The jellyfish is spineless but potentially deadly, but Germany is just spineless.
Russia-France: Did you do it then? Did the sly evil grin and the contemplative grin develop into sticking the boot in to the English?
Russia-Germany: So, when England says “Walkies!”, do you wag your tail and fetch your lead?
Question: What is the difference between Germany and a sponge cake? Answer: There is no difference. They’re both very nice, but lightweight and regularly consumed by the English with a cup of tea.
RETREATS:
Russian fleet Norway - Skagerrak
Russian army Munich - Bohemia
STATUS:
Ownership:
England: Brest, Denmark, Holland, London, Norway, Tunis.
France: Belgium, Berlin, Edinburgh, Liverpool, Marseilles,
Paris, Portugal, Spain.
Germany: Kiel, Munich, Sweden.
Italy: Bulgaria, Greece, Naples, Rome, Serbia, Trieste,
Venice.
Russia: Ankara, Budapest, Moscow, Rumania, Sevastopol, St
Petersburg, Vienna, Warsaw.
Turkey: Constantinople, Smyrna.
Adjustments:
Austria: Supp 0 Unit 0 Build 0
England: Supp 6 Unit 6 Build 0
France: Supp 8 Unit 6 Build 2
Germany: Supp 3 Unit 3 Build 0
Italy: Supp 7 Unit 7 Build 0
Russia: Supp 8 Unit 8 Build 0
Turkey: Supp 2 Unit 2 Build 0
Winter is due on Tuesday, January 27 at 22:00 MST.
Note that if I get them marked as final I may adjudicate early!
-------------------------
Maps are attached. If last time wasn't a lesson for you all... check my work.
Have fun.
Warren
[Reply] |
| Unknown - david_e_cohen (Jan 23, 2009, 7:23 pm) |
| Could I please be added to the mailing list for adjudications and maps? [Reply] |
| DC 236 Autumn and Winter 1902 Results - Verticallychallangedcutie (Jan 23, 2009, 7:00 pm) |
Folks,
This turn is nice and simple. Both retreats are in and along with the retreats we have the winter phase. This turn we also say goodbye to our Austrian. Ross thank you for playing it was great having you!
Players:
Austria: Ross Jefferson <Ross92021(at)yahoo.com>
England: Nathan Deily <ndeily(at)yahoo.com>
France: Mike Hoffman <mrh(at)panix.com>
Germany: John Robillard <john.robillard(at)telia.com>
Italy: Daniel Dzikowicz <ddz999cat23(at)yahoo.com>
Russia: Benjy Aarons <finchleywomble(at)hotmail.com>
Turkey: Michael Penner <mvpenner(at)yahoo.com>
Retreats:
Germany:
disband A Belgium
Italy:
A Marseilles - Gascony
Builds and Disbands:
Austria:
Defaults, removing F Adriatic Sea
France:
Build A Paris
Germany:
Build A Kiel
Russia:
Build A Moscow
Build F Sevastopol
Turkey:
Build F Constantinople
Build A Smyrna
Deadline:
Remember Spring 1903 is due on Monday Jan 26th at 7pm EST ( 11:59pm GMT ). Map and Dpy file is attached for your viewing pleasure.[Reply] |
| DC232 autum 1902 retreats / winter 1902 adjustment... - coryfucius (Jan 23, 2009, 6:10 pm) |
Well, folks, I received no message from the Kaiser, so Germany suffers an NRR, automatically scuttling the fleet in Denmark and leaving the rebuild waived. I also could not locate a build order from England, so the Queen's two builds are also waived.
Spring 1903 orders will be due Monday 1/26 at 3pm Central (US) / 21:00 GMT. Prelims, prelims, prelims! If you are unable to send revised/final orders, I'll at least have something...
Cory
-----
Autumn 1902 retreats:
Germany: (NRR)
Remove F Denmark
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Winter 1902 adjustments:
Austria:
Build A Trieste
Build A Vienna
England:
Build waived
Build waived
France:
Build A Paris
Build F Brest
Germany:
Build waived
Turkey:
Remove A Armenia[Reply] |
| DC235 Dirkfell - W1902 Results - garry.bledsoe (Jan 23, 2009, 5:53 pm) |
And on we go, bidding adieu to one A while watching the construction of 2 A's and 2 F's.
S03 deadline is Monday the 26th at 5pm CST.
LotM
From: kielmarch(at)hotmail.com
To: former.trout(at)gmail.com; blitz(at)diplomaticcorp.com; untitled36(at)yahoo.com
CC: speedybunny(at)orange.fr; landru428(at)aol.com; alwayshunted(at)hotmail.com; maxatrest(at)yahoo.co.uk; screwtape777(at)gmail.com; untitled36(at)hotmail.com; ordewin(at)aol.com; mike(at)southwall.com; stevelytton(at)hotmail.com
Subject: DC235 Dirkfell - Fall 1902 Results
Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2009 20:18:32 -0500
.ExternalClass .EC_hmmessage P {padding:0px;} .ExternalClass body.EC_hmmessage {font-size:10pt;font-family:Verdana;} English Ascendancy?
I Can, Without Reservation, Say That I Have NO Idea What is Happening.
Lots of Bounces But No Retreats Needed
It Seems That Almost Every Navy in the Free World Wants to Get to the Med Somewhere!
Okay all...no retreats but remember the QUICK turnaround on builds/disbands. We have several of those below. I have some conditional builds but those CAN be changed pre-deadline if desired. Deadline is tomorrow at 5pm CST. I will hold tight to that because I have to adjudicate before going to an event tomorrow night.
Happy digesting!
Lord of the March
Austria:
A Bohemia - Munich (*Fails*)
A Bulgaria Hold
A Galicia - Warsaw (*Bounce*)
F Greece - Aegean Sea (*Bounce*)
A Serbia Supports A Bulgaria
A Vienna - Galicia (*Fails*)
England:
F Barents Sea Supports A St Petersburg
F North Sea - Belgium
F Norway Supports A St Petersburg
A St Petersburg Hold
France:
A Gascony Supports A Marseilles
A Marseilles Hold
F Mid-Atlantic Ocean - Western Mediterranean (*Fails*)
A Paris - Burgundy
F Portugal - Spain(sc) (*Bounce*)
Germany:
F Berlin - Baltic Sea
A Munich Hold
A Ruhr Supports A Munich
A Silesia - Warsaw (*Bounce*)
F Sweden Hold
Italy:
A Piedmont Hold
A Tyrolia - Trieste
F Tyrrhenian Sea - Ionian Sea (*Bounce*)
F Western Mediterranean - Spain(sc) (*Bounce*)
Russia:
A Finland - St Petersburg (*Fails*)
F Gulf of Bothnia Supports A Finland - St Petersburg
A Moscow Supports A Finland - St Petersburg
F Rumania Supports A Bulgaria
Turkey:
F Aegean Sea - Ionian Sea (*Bounce*)
A Ankara - Constantinople (*Fails*)
F Constantinople - Aegean Sea (*Bounce*)
Ownership:
Austria: Budapest, Bulgaria, Greece, Serbia, Vienna.
England: Belgium, Edinburgh, Liverpool, London, Norway, St Petersburg.
France: Brest, Marseilles, Paris, Portugal, Spain.
Germany: Berlin, Denmark, Holland, Kiel, Munich, Sweden.
Italy: Naples, Rome, Trieste, Tunis, Venice.
Russia: Moscow, Rumania, Sevastopol, Warsaw.
Turkey: Ankara, Constantinople, Smyrna.
Adjustments:
Austria: Supp 5 Unit 6 Remove 1
England: Supp 6 Unit 4 Build 2
France: Supp 5 Unit 5 Build 0
Germany: Supp 6 Unit 5 Build 1
Italy: Supp 5 Unit 4 Build 1
Russia: Supp 4 Unit 4 Build 0
Turkey: Supp 3 Unit 3 Build 0
Windows Live™: E-mail. Chat. Share. Get more ways to connect. Check it out.
Windows Live™ Hotmail®…more than just e-mail. See how it works.[Reply] |
| DC234: Turkey - GM (Adjustments for Winter 1902) v... - Samnuva (Jan 23, 2009, 3:01 pm) |
Builds are In. Well, this completes our second game year, and our first (and let's hope our last) without me making any major mistakes. Our next deadline is, as you can probably guess, monday the 26th of January at 4pm ET. That will be for Spring '03. As the game heats up, I also would like to remind everyone about the two Winter Blitz awards: Best Press and Best Stab, both of which are rather self explanatory. Keep those in mind. With That Said [Fanfare] The results!
[list:bdf7cf15ec] [*:bdf7cf15ec]Italy: Builds A ven[*:bdf7cf15ec]Italy: Builds F rom[*:bdf7cf15ec]Germany: Builds F kie[*:bdf7cf15ec]Turkey: Builds A ank[*:bdf7cf15ec]Austria: Removes F alb [/list:u:bdf7cf15ec]
And what message would be complete without maps?
There we go. Remember those awards, and remember to send those orders in.
-Sam Buck
Your GM[Reply] |
| DC219, Fall 05 Results - roadtomoscow (Jan 23, 2009, 2:51 pm) |
Germany will retreat its army to Burgundy. Darn Frenchies!
--- On Fri, 1/23/09, Mikael Johansson <m_don_j(at)hotmail.com> wrote:
From: Mikael Johansson <m_don_j(at)hotmail.com>
Subject: DC219, Fall 05 Results
To: reinselc(at)yahoo.com, timfuhrmeister(at)yahoo.com, yubuusro(at)yahoo.com, sam_buck_productions(at)mac.com, verticallychallangedcutie(at)yahoo.com, fake_email_for_jr(at)hotmail.com, archer280(at)gmail.com, former.trout(at)gmail.com, stevelytton(at)hotmail.com, dc219(at)diplomaticcorp.com
Date: Friday, January 23, 2009, 2:29 PM
#yiv968181620 .hmmessage P { margin:0px;padding:0px;} #yiv968181620 { font-size:10pt;font-family:Verdana;} And here are the results!
Austria:
F Bulgaria(sc) - Aegean Sea
A Greece - Albania
A Serbia - Budapest (*Fails*)
A Trieste Supports A Vienna (*Cut*)
A Vienna Hold (*Disbanded*)
England:
F Gascony Supports F Mid-Atlantic Ocean - Spain(sc)
F Irish Sea - Mid-Atlantic Ocean
F Mid-Atlantic Ocean - Spain(sc)
F North Sea Supports A Sweden - Denmark (*Cut*)
F St Petersburg(nc) Hold
A Sweden - Denmark (*Fails*)
F Western Mediterranean - Gulf of Lyon (*Fails*)
France:
F Gulf of Lyon Supports A Spain - Marseilles (*Cut*)
A Spain - Marseilles
Germany:
A Belgium Hold
A Bohemia Supports A Galicia - Vienna
A Budapest - Trieste (*Fails*)
F Denmark Supports F Holland - North Sea (*Cut*)
A Galicia - Vienna
F Holland - North Sea (*Fails*)
A Marseilles Supports F Mid-Atlantic Ocean - Spain(sc)
(*Dislodged*)
A Munich - Tyrolia (*Bounce*)
A Silesia Hold
Italy:
F Adriatic Sea - Venice (*Fails*)
A Piedmont Supports A Spain - Marseilles
F Tunis Hold
A Venice - Tyrolia (*Bounce*)
Russia:
A Armenia Supports F Constantinople - Smyrna
F Black Sea - Ankara
F Constantinople - Smyrna
A Rumania Hold
A Warsaw Hold
Turkey:
A Ankara - Constantinople
F Smyrna Supports A Ankara - Constantinople (*Dislodged*)
Retreats:
German A Marseilles can retreat to Burgundy.
Turkish F Smyrna can retreat to Syria or Eastern Mediterranean.
Let's have retreats and builds by January 25th, GMT 20:00:00
Have fun!
Krama någon i vinter! Hitta kärleken här! MSN Dejting
[Reply] |
| DC219, Fall 05 Results - m_don_j (Jan 23, 2009, 2:29 pm) |
And here are the results!
Austria:
F Bulgaria(sc) - Aegean Sea
A Greece - Albania
A Serbia - Budapest (*Fails*)
A Trieste Supports A Vienna (*Cut*)
A Vienna Hold (*Disbanded*)
England:
F Gascony Supports F Mid-Atlantic Ocean - Spain(sc)
F Irish Sea - Mid-Atlantic Ocean
F Mid-Atlantic Ocean - Spain(sc)
F North Sea Supports A Sweden - Denmark (*Cut*)
F St Petersburg(nc) Hold
A Sweden - Denmark (*Fails*)
F Western Mediterranean - Gulf of Lyon (*Fails*)
France:
F Gulf of Lyon Supports A Spain - Marseilles (*Cut*)
A Spain - Marseilles
Germany:
A Belgium Hold
A Bohemia Supports A Galicia - Vienna
A Budapest - Trieste (*Fails*)
F Denmark Supports F Holland - North Sea (*Cut*)
A Galicia - Vienna
F Holland - North Sea (*Fails*)
A Marseilles Supports F Mid-Atlantic Ocean - Spain(sc)
(*Dislodged*)
A Munich - Tyrolia (*Bounce*)
A Silesia Hold
Italy:
F Adriatic Sea - Venice (*Fails*)
A Piedmont Supports A Spain - Marseilles
F Tunis Hold
A Venice - Tyrolia (*Bounce*)
Russia:
A Armenia Supports F Constantinople - Smyrna
F Black Sea - Ankara
F Constantinople - Smyrna
A Rumania Hold
A Warsaw Hold
Turkey:
A Ankara - Constantinople
F Smyrna Supports A Ankara - Constantinople (*Dislodged*)
Retreats:
German A Marseilles can retreat to Burgundy.
Turkish F Smyrna can retreat to Syria or Eastern Mediterranean.
Let's have retreats and builds by January 25th, GMT 20:00:00
Have fun!
Krama någon i vinter! Hitta kärleken här! MSN Dejting[Reply] |
| DC219, Fall 05 Results (dc219) roadtomoscow Jan 23, 02:51 pm |
Germany will retreat its army to Burgundy. Darn Frenchies!
--- On Fri, 1/23/09, Mikael Johansson <m_don_j(at)hotmail.com> wrote:
From: Mikael Johansson <m_don_j(at)hotmail.com>
Subject: DC219, Fall 05 Results
To: reinselc(at)yahoo.com, timfuhrmeister(at)yahoo.com, yubuusro(at)yahoo.com, sam_buck_productions(at)mac.com, verticallychallangedcutie(at)yahoo.com, fake_email_for_jr(at)hotmail.com, archer280(at)gmail.com, former.trout(at)gmail.com, stevelytton(at)hotmail.com, dc219(at)diplomaticcorp.com
Date: Friday, January 23, 2009, 2:29 PM
#yiv968181620 .hmmessage P { margin:0px;padding:0px;} #yiv968181620 { font-size:10pt;font-family:Verdana;} And here are the results!
Austria:
F Bulgaria(sc) - Aegean Sea
A Greece - Albania
A Serbia - Budapest (*Fails*)
A Trieste Supports A Vienna (*Cut*)
A Vienna Hold (*Disbanded*)
England:
F Gascony Supports F Mid-Atlantic Ocean - Spain(sc)
F Irish Sea - Mid-Atlantic Ocean
F Mid-Atlantic Ocean - Spain(sc)
F North Sea Supports A Sweden - Denmark (*Cut*)
F St Petersburg(nc) Hold
A Sweden - Denmark (*Fails*)
F Western Mediterranean - Gulf of Lyon (*Fails*)
France:
F Gulf of Lyon Supports A Spain - Marseilles (*Cut*)
A Spain - Marseilles
Germany:
A Belgium Hold
A Bohemia Supports A Galicia - Vienna
A Budapest - Trieste (*Fails*)
F Denmark Supports F Holland - North Sea (*Cut*)
A Galicia - Vienna
F Holland - North Sea (*Fails*)
A Marseilles Supports F Mid-Atlantic Ocean - Spain(sc)
(*Dislodged*)
A Munich - Tyrolia (*Bounce*)
A Silesia Hold
Italy:
F Adriatic Sea - Venice (*Fails*)
A Piedmont Supports A Spain - Marseilles
F Tunis Hold
A Venice - Tyrolia (*Bounce*)
Russia:
A Armenia Supports F Constantinople - Smyrna
F Black Sea - Ankara
F Constantinople - Smyrna
A Rumania Hold
A Warsaw Hold
Turkey:
A Ankara - Constantinople
F Smyrna Supports A Ankara - Constantinople (*Dislodged*)
Retreats:
German A Marseilles can retreat to Burgundy.
Turkish F Smyrna can retreat to Syria or Eastern Mediterranean.
Let's have retreats and builds by January 25th, GMT 20:00:00
Have fun!
Krama någon i vinter! Hitta kärleken här! MSN Dejting
|
| DC219, Adjudication underway - m_don_j (Jan 23, 2009, 2:04 pm) |
Heya folks!
Expect it all within the hour.
/ Mikael
Hitta skönaste vinterresan här! MSN Resor[Reply] |
| DC 216 - Reminder - Githraine (Jan 23, 2009, 1:53 pm) |
| Orders due tonight, I only have 2 sets in.... [Reply] |
| DC 164 - Orders due tonight. - Githraine (Jan 23, 2009, 1:52 pm) |
| I only have 2 sets.... [Reply] |
