| DC 260 (Asian): Siberia & Indonesia 2-way Draw - offdisc (Dec 31, 2009, 6:24 pm) |
Hi All,
As a short-time replacement, I don't have a whole lot to say about the
variant. I did enjoy the little interaction I had with the players.
Wish Eric had warned me more about Siberia -- trusting him from the
get-go almost knocked me out of the game. But Indonesia gave me the
leeway I needed to reposition and form a line against Siberia's
further advance.
Thanks to Adam for GMing, Congrats to Aidan and Alex for a well-played game.
Michael Hoffman
---------
"Shared Pain is lessened, Shared Joy is increased" --- Spider Robinson
"Whenever some act of wondrous power must be performed, Michael is
sent" --- Pope Saint Gregory the Great[Reply] |
| DC 260 (Asian): Siberia & Indonesia 2-way Draw - rodtheworm (Dec 31, 2009, 6:21 am) |
To try to explain that, Mark, unfortunately I may well have been responsible for that. Persia and I decided fairly early on that he'd go for you while I'd head east, then I'd assist him through Siberia. I suspect that since we'd just played together in another game where a horrific diplomatic mistake on my part barely a year in had seen me swiftly annihilated, he thought I'd be an easy target when it came to stabbing me. Think misjudged and unjustified chainsaw diplomacy that lead to the very thing I'd wanted to break up, and you'll have roughly the right idea.
As it happened, I couldn't find anyone to help me take on Indonesia (as Japan had focussed on armies), despite his early army build leaving him very vulnerable. When Persia made his premature (and telegraphed in advance) stab on me, I ended up working with Alexander - which seemed to work fairly well in the short term, though I always expected it would be a matter of time before he stabbed me rather more successfully, given that I had no way of stopping him.
Anyway, I'm glad to have eked out a survival from this game. Maybe I'll have better luck next game. 
Ross
Date: Wed, 30 Dec 2009 19:01:54 -0600
Subject: Re: DC 260 (Asian): Siberia & Indonesia 2-way Draw
From: mdemagogue(at)gmail.com
To: smegdwarf(at)yahoo.com
CC: mrh(at)panix.com; briankingfox(at)hotmail.com; wecanworkthisout(at)yahoo.com; ecommander0(at)hotmail.com; aislattery(at)aol.com; rodtheworm(at)hotmail.com; dc260(at)diplomaticcorp.com
I don't really have a whole lot of thoughts on the variant, given that my experience was limited to three in game years before being ingloriously eliminated. I personally expected Siberia to try to push forward for the solo. It's what I would have done. My plan early on was to push east ward with Persia, that didn't work out because he couldn't trust me for some undefined reason. Then to cap it off, Persia attacked India as well as me, embroiling him in a two front war that he couldn't win. He then fled the game. Honestly, if you're going to mismanage your forces that poorly, at least have the good grace to stick through it to the end, rather than fobbing off your mistakes on someone else. Congratulations to Aidan and Alex, and thanks Adam for GMing.
On Wed, Dec 30, 2009 at 10:57 AM, Adam Martin-Schwarze <smegdwarf(at)yahoo.com ([email]smegdwarf(at)yahoo.com[/email])> wrote:
Indonesia doesn't submit a build, but it doesn't matter, because he does vote 'Yea' on a draw proposal.
The DIAS... fails.
But the Siberian-Indonesian draw succeeds!
Light Brigade Persia survives.
Beleaguered India survives.
Stoic Japan cunningly utilizes geography to survive in spite of an early near-exit.
Siberia and Indonesia wear crowns and look down both graciously and condescendingly upon the rest of the world. What did you expect from kings?
But the game is not over yet!!? It isn't? No. Not until you've written your end of game comments. And I really want them. In addition to the usual praise of your opponents, analysis of the flow of the game, and other good-natured jibes, I ask you to please offer your opinions on the variant itself. I already have solid opinions from Ross (who responded to my mid-game plea). And I can readily point to a couple of awkward spots on the board myself. But nobody knows the game better than people who have played on it.
Thank you and congratulations to all who finished this game. Thank you and 'better luck next time' to those who were eliminated.
For the record, I processed the Winter as:
India:
Remove A Afghanistan
Indonesia:
Build waived
Persia:
Remove F Persian Gulf
Siberia:
Build A West Siberia
Build F Kamchatka
Build A Irkutsk
Final Center Count:
China: 0
India: 2
Indonesia: 13
Japan: 2
Persia: 7
Russia: 0
Siberia: 16
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| DC 260 (Asian): Siberia & Indonesia 2-way Draw - MDemagogue (Dec 30, 2009, 7:01 pm) |
I don't really have a whole lot of thoughts on the variant, given that my experience was limited to three in game years before being ingloriously eliminated. I personally expected Siberia to try to push forward for the solo. It's what I would have done. My plan early on was to push east ward with Persia, that didn't work out because he couldn't trust me for some undefined reason. Then to cap it off, Persia attacked India as well as me, embroiling him in a two front war that he couldn't win. He then fled the game. Honestly, if you're going to mismanage your forces that poorly, at least have the good grace to stick through it to the end, rather than fobbing off your mistakes on someone else. Congratulations to Aidan and Alex, and thanks Adam for GMing.
On Wed, Dec 30, 2009 at 10:57 AM, Adam Martin-Schwarze <smegdwarf(at)yahoo.com ([email]smegdwarf(at)yahoo.com[/email])> wrote:
Indonesia doesn't submit a build, but it doesn't matter, because he does vote 'Yea' on a draw proposal.
The DIAS... fails.
But the Siberian-Indonesian draw succeeds!
Light Brigade Persia survives.
Beleaguered India survives.
Stoic Japan cunningly utilizes geography to survive in spite of an early near-exit.
Siberia and Indonesia wear crowns and look down both graciously and condescendingly upon the rest of the world. What did you expect from kings?
But the game is not over yet!!? It isn't? No. Not until you've written your end of game comments. And I really want them. In addition to the usual praise of your opponents, analysis of the flow of the game, and other good-natured jibes, I ask you to please offer your opinions on the variant itself. I already have solid opinions from Ross (who responded to my mid-game plea). And I can readily point to a couple of awkward spots on the board myself. But nobody knows the game better than people who have played on it.
Thank you and congratulations to all who finished this game. Thank you and 'better luck next time' to those who were eliminated.
For the record, I processed the Winter as:
India:
Remove A Afghanistan
Indonesia:
Build waived
Persia:
Remove F Persian Gulf
Siberia:
Build A West Siberia
Build F Kamchatka
Build A Irkutsk
Final Center Count:
China: 0
India: 2
Indonesia: 13
Japan: 2
Persia: 7
Russia: 0
Siberia: 16
[Reply] |
| DC 260 (Asian): Siberia & Indonesia 2-way Draw - ecommander0 (Dec 30, 2009, 12:58 pm) |
Thanks for a great game, everyone. I haven't played many games, and I've either died or survived (barely) in all of them, but, well, thats learning for you. Anyways, while playing as Japan, I realized that I had two paths available: to focus on my army, or to focus on my navy. To neglect the army would mean an attack from Siberia, and to neglect my navy would mean an attack from Indonesia. As you can see, I took the army path, but a few major miscalculations (I still haven't really gotten the hang of the support system yet) were my undoing. What I found interesting, though, was that I was in possession of Manchuria, but not Korea, something which was quite annoying, especially with Siberia so close. For some reason, my rise and downfall mirrored the Japanese Empire in WWII, with my destruction of China, the destruction of my fleet in the Phillipines and finally, Siberia's invasion of Manchuria.
I would like to personally congratulate Siberia for being so good at backstabbing, and I would like to thank Siberia and Indonesia for not joining forces and destroying me towards the end of the game. All in all, I have concluded that if Diplomacy were to have a mascot, it would be a vulture. With a grenade.
Eric (Japan)
Date: Wed, 30 Dec 2009 08:57:14 -0800
From: smegdwarf(at)yahoo.com
Subject: DC 260 (Asian): Siberia & Indonesia 2-way Draw
To: mrh(at)panix.com; briankingfox(at)hotmail.com; wecanworkthisout(at)yahoo.com; ecommander0(at)hotmail.com; aislattery(at)aol.com; rodtheworm(at)hotmail.com; mdemagogue(at)gmail.com; dc260(at)diplomaticcorp.com
Indonesia doesn't submit a build, but it doesn't matter, because he does vote 'Yea' on a draw proposal.
The DIAS... fails.
But the Siberian-Indonesian draw succeeds!
Light Brigade Persia survives.
Beleaguered India survives.
Stoic Japan cunningly utilizes geography to survive in spite of an early near-exit.
Siberia and Indonesia wear crowns and look down both graciously and condescendingly upon the rest of the world. What did you expect from kings?
But the game is not over yet!!? It isn't? No. Not until you've written your end of game comments. And I really want them. In addition to the usual praise of your opponents, analysis of the flow of the game, and other good-natured jibes, I ask you to please offer your opinions on the variant itself. I already have solid opinions from Ross (who responded to my mid-game plea). And I can readily point to a couple of awkward spots on the board myself. But nobody knows the game better than people who have played on it.
Thank you and congratulations to all who finished this game. Thank you and 'better luck next time' to those who were eliminated.
For the record, I processed the Winter as:
India:
Remove A Afghanistan
Indonesia:
Build waived
Persia:
Remove F Persian Gulf
Siberia:
Build A West Siberia
Build F Kamchatka
Build A Irkutsk
Final Center Count:
China: 0
India: 2
Indonesia: 13
Japan: 2
Persia: 7
Russia: 0
Siberia: 16
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| DC 260 (Asian): Siberia & Indonesia 2-way Draw - AceRimmer (Dec 30, 2009, 10:57 am) |
Indonesia doesn't submit a build, but it doesn't matter, because he does vote 'Yea' on a draw proposal.
The DIAS... fails.
But the Siberian-Indonesian draw succeeds!
Light Brigade Persia survives.
Beleaguered India survives.
Stoic Japan cunningly utilizes geography to survive in spite of an early near-exit.
Siberia and Indonesia wear crowns and look down both graciously and condescendingly upon the rest of the world. What did you expect from kings?
But the game is not over yet!!? It isn't? No. Not until you've written your end of game comments. And I really want them. In addition to the usual praise of your opponents, analysis of the flow of the game, and other good-natured jibes, I ask you to please offer your opinions on the variant itself. I already have solid opinions from Ross (who responded to my mid-game plea). And I can readily point to a couple of awkward spots on the board myself. But nobody knows the game better than people who have played on it.
Thank you and congratulations to all who finished this game. Thank you and 'better luck next time' to those who were eliminated.
For the record, I processed the Winter as:
India:
Remove A Afghanistan
Indonesia:
Build waived
Persia:
Remove F Persian Gulf
Siberia:
Build A West Siberia
Build F Kamchatka
Build A Irkutsk
Final Center Count:
China: 0
India: 2
Indonesia: 13
Japan: 2
Persia: 7
Russia: 0
Siberia: 16[Reply] |
| DC 260 (Asian): Siberia & Indonesia 2-way Draw (dc260) ecommander0 Dec 30, 12:58 pm |
Thanks for a great game, everyone. I haven't played many games, and I've either died or survived (barely) in all of them, but, well, thats learning for you. Anyways, while playing as Japan, I realized that I had two paths available: to focus on my army, or to focus on my navy. To neglect the army would mean an attack from Siberia, and to neglect my navy would mean an attack from Indonesia. As you can see, I took the army path, but a few major miscalculations (I still haven't really gotten the hang of the support system yet) were my undoing. What I found interesting, though, was that I was in possession of Manchuria, but not Korea, something which was quite annoying, especially with Siberia so close. For some reason, my rise and downfall mirrored the Japanese Empire in WWII, with my destruction of China, the destruction of my fleet in the Phillipines and finally, Siberia's invasion of Manchuria.
I would like to personally congratulate Siberia for being so good at backstabbing, and I would like to thank Siberia and Indonesia for not joining forces and destroying me towards the end of the game. All in all, I have concluded that if Diplomacy were to have a mascot, it would be a vulture. With a grenade.
Eric (Japan)
Date: Wed, 30 Dec 2009 08:57:14 -0800
From: smegdwarf(at)yahoo.com
Subject: DC 260 (Asian): Siberia & Indonesia 2-way Draw
To: mrh(at)panix.com; briankingfox(at)hotmail.com; wecanworkthisout(at)yahoo.com; ecommander0(at)hotmail.com; aislattery(at)aol.com; rodtheworm(at)hotmail.com; mdemagogue(at)gmail.com; dc260(at)diplomaticcorp.com
Indonesia doesn't submit a build, but it doesn't matter, because he does vote 'Yea' on a draw proposal.
The DIAS... fails.
But the Siberian-Indonesian draw succeeds!
Light Brigade Persia survives.
Beleaguered India survives.
Stoic Japan cunningly utilizes geography to survive in spite of an early near-exit.
Siberia and Indonesia wear crowns and look down both graciously and condescendingly upon the rest of the world. What did you expect from kings?
But the game is not over yet!!? It isn't? No. Not until you've written your end of game comments. And I really want them. In addition to the usual praise of your opponents, analysis of the flow of the game, and other good-natured jibes, I ask you to please offer your opinions on the variant itself. I already have solid opinions from Ross (who responded to my mid-game plea). And I can readily point to a couple of awkward spots on the board myself. But nobody knows the game better than people who have played on it.
Thank you and congratulations to all who finished this game. Thank you and 'better luck next time' to those who were eliminated.
For the record, I processed the Winter as:
India:
Remove A Afghanistan
Indonesia:
Build waived
Persia:
Remove F Persian Gulf
Siberia:
Build A West Siberia
Build F Kamchatka
Build A Irkutsk
Final Center Count:
China: 0
India: 2
Indonesia: 13
Japan: 2
Persia: 7
Russia: 0
Siberia: 16
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| DC 260 (Asian): Siberia & Indonesia 2-way Draw (dc260) MDemagogue Dec 30, 07:01 pm |
I don't really have a whole lot of thoughts on the variant, given that my experience was limited to three in game years before being ingloriously eliminated. I personally expected Siberia to try to push forward for the solo. It's what I would have done. My plan early on was to push east ward with Persia, that didn't work out because he couldn't trust me for some undefined reason. Then to cap it off, Persia attacked India as well as me, embroiling him in a two front war that he couldn't win. He then fled the game. Honestly, if you're going to mismanage your forces that poorly, at least have the good grace to stick through it to the end, rather than fobbing off your mistakes on someone else. Congratulations to Aidan and Alex, and thanks Adam for GMing.
On Wed, Dec 30, 2009 at 10:57 AM, Adam Martin-Schwarze <smegdwarf(at)yahoo.com ([email]smegdwarf(at)yahoo.com[/email])> wrote:
Indonesia doesn't submit a build, but it doesn't matter, because he does vote 'Yea' on a draw proposal.
The DIAS... fails.
But the Siberian-Indonesian draw succeeds!
Light Brigade Persia survives.
Beleaguered India survives.
Stoic Japan cunningly utilizes geography to survive in spite of an early near-exit.
Siberia and Indonesia wear crowns and look down both graciously and condescendingly upon the rest of the world. What did you expect from kings?
But the game is not over yet!!? It isn't? No. Not until you've written your end of game comments. And I really want them. In addition to the usual praise of your opponents, analysis of the flow of the game, and other good-natured jibes, I ask you to please offer your opinions on the variant itself. I already have solid opinions from Ross (who responded to my mid-game plea). And I can readily point to a couple of awkward spots on the board myself. But nobody knows the game better than people who have played on it.
Thank you and congratulations to all who finished this game. Thank you and 'better luck next time' to those who were eliminated.
For the record, I processed the Winter as:
India:
Remove A Afghanistan
Indonesia:
Build waived
Persia:
Remove F Persian Gulf
Siberia:
Build A West Siberia
Build F Kamchatka
Build A Irkutsk
Final Center Count:
China: 0
India: 2
Indonesia: 13
Japan: 2
Persia: 7
Russia: 0
Siberia: 16
|
| DC 260 (Asian): Siberia & Indonesia 2-way Draw (dc260) rodtheworm Dec 31, 06:21 am |
To try to explain that, Mark, unfortunately I may well have been responsible for that. Persia and I decided fairly early on that he'd go for you while I'd head east, then I'd assist him through Siberia. I suspect that since we'd just played together in another game where a horrific diplomatic mistake on my part barely a year in had seen me swiftly annihilated, he thought I'd be an easy target when it came to stabbing me. Think misjudged and unjustified chainsaw diplomacy that lead to the very thing I'd wanted to break up, and you'll have roughly the right idea.
As it happened, I couldn't find anyone to help me take on Indonesia (as Japan had focussed on armies), despite his early army build leaving him very vulnerable. When Persia made his premature (and telegraphed in advance) stab on me, I ended up working with Alexander - which seemed to work fairly well in the short term, though I always expected it would be a matter of time before he stabbed me rather more successfully, given that I had no way of stopping him.
Anyway, I'm glad to have eked out a survival from this game. Maybe I'll have better luck next game.
Ross
Date: Wed, 30 Dec 2009 19:01:54 -0600
Subject: Re: DC 260 (Asian): Siberia & Indonesia 2-way Draw
From: mdemagogue(at)gmail.com
To: smegdwarf(at)yahoo.com
CC: mrh(at)panix.com; briankingfox(at)hotmail.com; wecanworkthisout(at)yahoo.com; ecommander0(at)hotmail.com; aislattery(at)aol.com; rodtheworm(at)hotmail.com; dc260(at)diplomaticcorp.com
I don't really have a whole lot of thoughts on the variant, given that my experience was limited to three in game years before being ingloriously eliminated. I personally expected Siberia to try to push forward for the solo. It's what I would have done. My plan early on was to push east ward with Persia, that didn't work out because he couldn't trust me for some undefined reason. Then to cap it off, Persia attacked India as well as me, embroiling him in a two front war that he couldn't win. He then fled the game. Honestly, if you're going to mismanage your forces that poorly, at least have the good grace to stick through it to the end, rather than fobbing off your mistakes on someone else. Congratulations to Aidan and Alex, and thanks Adam for GMing.
On Wed, Dec 30, 2009 at 10:57 AM, Adam Martin-Schwarze <smegdwarf(at)yahoo.com ([email]smegdwarf(at)yahoo.com[/email])> wrote:
Indonesia doesn't submit a build, but it doesn't matter, because he does vote 'Yea' on a draw proposal.
The DIAS... fails.
But the Siberian-Indonesian draw succeeds!
Light Brigade Persia survives.
Beleaguered India survives.
Stoic Japan cunningly utilizes geography to survive in spite of an early near-exit.
Siberia and Indonesia wear crowns and look down both graciously and condescendingly upon the rest of the world. What did you expect from kings?
But the game is not over yet!!? It isn't? No. Not until you've written your end of game comments. And I really want them. In addition to the usual praise of your opponents, analysis of the flow of the game, and other good-natured jibes, I ask you to please offer your opinions on the variant itself. I already have solid opinions from Ross (who responded to my mid-game plea). And I can readily point to a couple of awkward spots on the board myself. But nobody knows the game better than people who have played on it.
Thank you and congratulations to all who finished this game. Thank you and 'better luck next time' to those who were eliminated.
For the record, I processed the Winter as:
India:
Remove A Afghanistan
Indonesia:
Build waived
Persia:
Remove F Persian Gulf
Siberia:
Build A West Siberia
Build F Kamchatka
Build A Irkutsk
Final Center Count:
China: 0
India: 2
Indonesia: 13
Japan: 2
Persia: 7
Russia: 0
Siberia: 16
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| DC 260 (Asian): Siberia & Indonesia 2-way Draw (dc260) offdisc Dec 31, 06:24 pm |
Hi All,
As a short-time replacement, I don't have a whole lot to say about the
variant. I did enjoy the little interaction I had with the players.
Wish Eric had warned me more about Siberia -- trusting him from the
get-go almost knocked me out of the game. But Indonesia gave me the
leeway I needed to reposition and form a line against Siberia's
further advance.
Thanks to Adam for GMing, Congrats to Aidan and Alex for a well-played game.
Michael Hoffman
---------
"Shared Pain is lessened, Shared Joy is increased" --- Spider Robinson
"Whenever some act of wondrous power must be performed, Michael is
sent" --- Pope Saint Gregory the Great |
| DC 260 (Asian): Persia retreats - AceRimmer (Dec 29, 2009, 8:47 am) |
Persia retreats F Balkans - Turkey.
Winter 1910 Adjustments due tomorrow:
India - Remove 1
Indonesia - Build 1
Persia - Remove 1
Siberia - Build 3
Draw votes due, too!
Draw 1: Indonesia/Siberia
Draw 2: DIAS
Everybody must vote (including the proposer).[Reply] |
| DC 260 (Asian): F1910 - AceRimmer (Dec 28, 2009, 12:30 pm) |
Point #1: Draw proposals. One proposal for Indonesia/Siberia. A second proposal for DIAS. Please vote by Wednesday (winter deadline).
F1910R: Tuesday at 1000 CST (only Persia has an order)
W1910: Wednesday at 1000 CST
Fall 1910:
The inexorable shift of power continues to reshape our Asian landscape. The abbreviated version of orders (bounces, holds, etc. omitted) is:
India:
Nothing
Indonesia:
A Tibet dislodged/disbanded
Japan:
Nothing
Persia:
F Balkans dislodged
F Red Sea - Egypt
Siberia:
A Delhi - Kunlun
A Kunlun - Tibet
A Novosibirsk - Kazakhstan
A Ukraine - Balkans
Failing in its convoy to hell (see the Persian orders), the Persian fleet in Balkans may retreat to Eastern Mediterranean, Turkey, or OTB.
Assuming Mike does not retreat OTB, the Winter adjustments will be boom times for Siberia (who nets Balkans, Beijing, and Tibet). But can he find five more centers for the solo? Or will a draw vote succeed first?
India: Supp 2 Unit 3 Remove 1
Indonesia: Supp 13 Unit 12 Build 1
Japan: Supp 2 Unit 2 Build 0
Persia: Supp 7 Unit 8 Remove 1
Siberia: Supp 16 Unit 13 Build 3
Fall 1910 Adjudication:
India:
A Afghanistan Supports A Uzbekistan
A Bombay Supports F Pakistan (*Cut*)
F Pakistan Supports A Bombay
Indonesia:
F Arabian Sea - Bombay (*Fails*)
F Bangladesh Supports A Calcutta
F Bay of Bengal Supports F Arabian Sea - Bombay
A Calcutta Supports A Tibet - Kunlun
F Celebes Sea Supports F East China Sea
A Chongqing Supports A Shanghai - Tibet
F East China Sea Supports F South China Sea - Shanghai (*Cut*)
F Philippines Supports F East China Sea
F South China Sea - Shanghai (*Bounce*)
F Seychelles Supports F Sri Lanka - Arabian Sea (*Fails*)
A Shanghai - Tibet (*Fails*)
F Sri Lanka - Arabian Sea (*Fails*)
A Tibet - Kunlun (*Disbanded*)
Japan:
F Hokkaido Supports F Honshu
F Honshu Supports F Hokkaido
Persia:
F Balkans C Ukraine - Hell (*Dislodged*)
F Caspian Sea Supports A Iran - Uzbekistan
A Iran - Uzbekistan (*Fails*)
F Iraq Supports F Persian Gulf - Iran(sc) (*Fails*)
F Oman - Persian Gulf (*Fails*)
F Persian Gulf - Iran(sc) (*Fails*)
F Red Sea - Egypt
A Sevastopol Supports F Balkans(sc) (*Cut*)
Siberia:
A Beijing Supports A Kunlun - Tibet
F Bering Strait - East China Sea (*Fails*)
A Delhi - Kunlun
A Kunlun - Tibet
A Mongolia Supports A Kunlun - Tibet
A Moscow - Sevastopol (*Fails*)
A Novosibirsk - Kazakhstan
F Sea of Okhotsk Supports F Bering Strait - East China Sea
A Urals - Moscow (*Fails*)
A Ukraine - Balkans
A Uzbekistan Hold
A Warsaw Supports A Ukraine - Balkans
F Yellow Sea - Shanghai (*Bounce*)[Reply] |
| DC 260 (Asian): S1910R - AceRimmer (Dec 17, 2009, 9:08 am) |
The Persian fleet retreats to the Red Sea.
Nobody has contacted me about the F1910 deadline next Monday, so let's try to make it happen! But I will turn the ship quickly if I have a delay request.[Reply] |
| DC 260 (Asian): Maps - AceRimmer (Dec 16, 2009, 4:04 pm) |
| As I do periodically, I seem to have forgotten the maps. [Reply] |
| DC 260 (Asian): S1910 Adjudication - AceRimmer (Dec 16, 2009, 12:28 pm) |
The East India Empire (formerly known as China) looks to have seen its last days. And Siberia is in a position to seize a Persian rug or two.
There is one retreat due tomorrow from Mike:
F Arabian Sea can retreat westward to Yemen, Red Sea, East Africa, East African Sea, or OTB.
I would like to target one more year before Christmas, but am I whacked? Is it possible to have F1910 on Monday and retreats and builds on Tuesday? By Wednesday, I'll be on an airplane. Let me know if that's a conflict. We can always postpone until the week after Christmas.
Spring 1910:
India:
A Afghanistan Supports A Uzbekistan
A Bombay Supports F Pakistan
F Pakistan Supports A Bombay (*Cut*)
A Tibet Supports A Manchuria - Beijing (*Disbanded*)
Indonesia:
F Bangladesh - Calcutta (*Bounce*)
F Bay of Bengal Supports F Bangladesh - Calcutta
A Borneo - Shanghai
A Calcutta - Kunlun (*Fails*)
F Celebes Sea Supports F East China Sea
F Central Indian Ocean - Arabian Sea
A Chongqing Supports A Shanghai - Tibet
F East China Sea Supports A Borneo - Shanghai (*Cut*)
F Philippines Supports F East China Sea
F South China Sea Convoys A Borneo - Shanghai
F Seychelles Supports F Central Indian Ocean - Arabian Sea
A Shanghai - Tibet
F Sri Lanka Supports F Central Indian Ocean - Arabian Sea
Japan:
F Hokkaido Supports F Honshu
F Honshu Supports F Hokkaido
Persia:
F Arabian Sea - Pakistan (*Dislodged*)
F Balkans(sc) Hold
F Caspian Sea Convoys A Sevastopol - Moscow
A Iran Supports F Arabian Sea - Pakistan
F Iraq Supports A Iran
F Oman - Arabian Sea (*Fails*)
F Persian Gulf Supports A Iran
A Sevastopol - Moscow (*Fails*)
Siberia:
F Bering Strait - East China Sea (*Fails*)
A Delhi Supports A Kunlun - Calcutta
A Irkutsk - Novosibirsk
A Korea - Beijing
A Kunlun - Calcutta (*Bounce*)
A Manchuria - Mongolia
A Moscow - Warsaw
F Sea of Okhotsk Supports F Bering Strait - East China Sea
A Urals - Moscow
A Ukraine Supports A Urals - Moscow
A Uzbekistan Hold
A West Siberia - Urals
F Yellow Sea Convoys A Korea - Beijing[Reply] |
| DC 260 (Asian): W1909 Map - AceRimmer (Dec 14, 2009, 8:47 am) |
As promised, here's the W1909 maps.
Next deadline is still set for this Wednesday![Reply] |
| W1909 - AceRimmer (Dec 11, 2009, 5:38 pm) |
Siberia builds armies in Irkutsk and Western Siberia.
India disbands Beijing.
I'll get a map out on Monday, since I'm at home for the weekend now.
I am wondering about making S1910 due on Wednesday. If nobody complains or squawks about it, then assume the deadline is on Wed., Dec. 16 at 10:00 CST.
Adam[Reply] |
| DC260 (Asian): F1909 Adjudication - AceRimmer (Dec 10, 2009, 8:22 am) |
No retreats, so we can dive right into Winter 1909. Uzbekhistan, Delhi, Calcutta, and Tibet change hands. India faces one disband. Siberia gains two builds, bringing him to parity with the Indonesian Empire in the south.
Winter will be due tomorrow at 1000 CST.
S1910 is Thursday the 17th at 1000 CST.
India:
A Afghanistan Supports A Uzbekistan
A Bombay Supports F Pakistan
A Mongolia - Beijing
F Pakistan Supports A Bombay (*Cut*)
A Tibet Supports A Mongolia - Beijing (*Cut*)
Indonesia:
F Bangladesh Supports F Bay of Bengal - Calcutta (*Fails*)
F Bay of Bengal - Calcutta (*Fails*)
A Borneo Hold
A Calcutta - Kunlun (*Fails*)
F Central Indian Ocean - Bay of Bengal (*Bounce*)
A Chongqing - Tibet (*Fails*)
F East China Sea Supports A Shanghai (*Cut*)
F Jawan Sea - Celebes Sea
F Philippines Supports F East China Sea
F South China Sea Supports F East China Sea
F Seychelles - Central Indian Ocean (*Fails*)
A Shanghai Supports A Chongqing - Tibet (*Cut*)
F Sri Lanka - Bay of Bengal (*Bounce*)
Japan:
F Hokkaido Supports F Honshu
F Honshu Supports F Hokkaido
Persia:
F Arabian Sea Supports A Iran - Pakistan
F Caspian Sea - Uzbekistan (*Fails*)
F Eastern Mediterranean - Balkans(sc)
A Iran - Pakistan (*Fails*)
F Iraq - Iran(sc) (*Fails*)
F Oman Supports F Arabian Sea
F Persian Gulf Supports F Iraq - Iran(sc) (*Fails*)
A Sevastopol Supports F Eastern Mediterranean - Balkans(sc)
Siberia:
F Bering Strait - East China Sea (*Fails*)
A Korea - Shanghai (*Fails*)
A Kunlun Supports A Tibet (*Cut*)
A Manchuria Supports A Mongolia - Beijing
F Sea of Okhotsk Supports F Bering Strait - East China Sea
A St. Petersburg - Moscow
A Tien Shan - Delhi
A Urals Supports A St. Petersburg - Moscow
A Ukraine - Balkans (*Fails*)
A Uzbekistan Hold
F Yellow Sea Convoys A Korea - Shanghai[Reply] |
| DC 260 (Asian): Update - AceRimmer (Dec 09, 2009, 4:10 pm) |
We now have complete orders from everybody.
The draw votes both fail.
I am snowed in. I will adjudicate in the morning.
Thank you for your patience.
Adam[Reply] |
| DC 260 (Asian): S1909 Adjudication - AceRimmer (Dec 01, 2009, 10:44 am) |
The Persian west flank continues to slowly crumble as Siberia advances into Ukraine and Uzbekistan. India and Indonesia swap centers. And that rogue Indian fleet retreats to the safety of Pakistan. The Showdown in the East China Sea looms next season.
Only one retreat with only one option, so I adjudicated it:
Indian A Tibet retreats to Chongqing
F1909 will be next Tuesday at 1000 CST.
Spring Adjudication:
India:
A Afghanistan Supports A Kazakhstan - Uzbekistan
A Beijing - Tibet
A Bombay Supports F Iran(sc) - Pakistan (*Cut*)
F Calcutta Supports A Bombay (*Disbanded*)
F Iran(sc) - Pakistan
A Mongolia Supports A Beijing - Tibet
Indonesia:
F Bangladesh Supports A Sumatra - Calcutta
F Bay of Bengal Convoys A Sumatra - Calcutta
A Borneo Hold
F Central Indian Ocean - Seychelles (*Fails*)
F East China Sea - Yellow Sea (*Fails*)
F Java - Jawan Sea
F Philippines - East China Sea (*Fails*)
F Seychelles - Central Indian Ocean (*Fails*)
A Shanghai - Beijing (*Bounce*)
F Sri Lanka Supports F Bay of Bengal
A Sumatra - Calcutta
F Thai Sea - South China Sea
A Tibet - Kunlun (*Dislodged*)
Japan:
F Hokkaido Supports F Honshu
F Honshu Supports F Hokkaido
Persia:
F Arabian Sea - Bombay (*Fails*)
F Caspian Sea Supports A Sevastopol - Moscow
F Egypt - Eastern Mediterranean
F Iraq Supports A Uzbekistan - Iran
F Oman - Arabian Sea (*Fails*)
F Persian Gulf Supports A Uzbekistan - Iran
A Sevastopol - Moscow (*Bounce*)
A Uzbekistan - Iran
Siberia:
F Kamchatka - Bering Strait
A Kazakhstan - Uzbekistan
A Korea - Shanghai (*Fails*)
A Kunlun Supports F Calcutta (*Cut*)
A Manchuria - Beijing (*Bounce*)
A Moscow - Ukraine
F Sea of Okhotsk Supports F Kamchatka - Bering Strait
A St. Petersburg - Moscow (*Bounce*)
A Tien Shan Supports A Kazakhstan - Uzbekistan
A Urals Supports A St. Petersburg - Moscow
F Yellow Sea Convoys A Korea - Shanghai[Reply] |
| DC 260 (Asian): W1908 - AceRimmer (Nov 20, 2009, 8:10 am) |
Item 1: On account of the Thanksgiving holiday, S1909 will be on Monday, November 30 at 10:00 am CST (unless I have *final* orders from everybody by this Wednesday night).
Item 2: In F1908, Persia ordered F Red Sea - Eastern Mediterranean because, well, the map suggests that's possible. Mike did not know (and I forgot) how badly the map is drawn there. So, to remind everybody: Egypt-Red Sea-Arabia-Syria all meet at a point. Egypt & Arabia are not adjacent. Red Sea & Syria are not adjacent. Red Sea to Eastern Mediterranean is right out.
Because (a) Mike had no reason to know the map peculiarity and (b) Mike's intent was clear, I therefore am readjudicating Mike's order to F Red Sea - Egypt.
Item 3:
Indonesia:
Build A Borneo
Build A Sumatra
Build F Java
Persia:
Remove A Warsaw
Siberia:
Build F Kamchatka[Reply] |
| DC 260 (Asian): F1908 R - AceRimmer (Nov 19, 2009, 8:03 am) |
The Persian fleet retreats to Caspian Sea.
The Indian army retreats to Mongolia.
I already have most of the adjustments (you guys are great), and I'll proceed when I get the last ones.[Reply] |
| DC 260 (Asian): The *entire* F1908 Adjudication - AceRimmer (Nov 18, 2009, 8:48 am) |
India:
A Afghanistan Supports F Iraq - Iran(sc)
A Beijing Supports A Tibet (*Cut*)
A Bombay Supports F Calcutta (*Cut*)
F Calcutta Supports F Sri Lanka - Bay of Bengal (*Cut*)
F Iraq - Iran(sc)
F Sri Lanka - Bay of Bengal (*Disbanded*)
A Tibet Supports A Beijing (*Dislodged*)
Indonesia:
F Bangladesh - Calcutta (*Fails*)
F Bay of Bengal - Sri Lanka
F Central Indian Ocean Supports F Bay of Bengal - Sri Lanka
A Chongqing - Tibet
F East China Sea Hold
F Philippines Supports F East China Sea
F South China Sea - Thai Sea
F Seychelles Supports F Central Indian Ocean
A Shanghai Supports A Chongqing - Tibet
F Thai Sea - Bay of Bengal
F Yellow Sea - Beijing (*Disbanded*)
Japan:
F Hokkaido - East China Sea (*Fails*)
F Honshu Supports F Sea of Okhotsk - Yellow Sea
Persia:
F Arabia(ec) - Iraq
F Arabian Sea - Bombay (*Fails*)
F Iran(nc) Supports A Uzbekistan (*Dislodged*)
A Livonia - Warsaw
F Oman - Arabian Sea (*Fails*)
F Persian Gulf Supports F Arabia(ec) - Iraq
F Red Sea - Eastern Mediterranean (*Fails*)
A Sevastopol Hold
A Uzbekistan Supports F Iran(nc) (*Cut*)
Siberia:
F Bering Strait - Sea of Okhotsk
A Korea Supports A Manchuria
A Kunlun Supports F Calcutta
A Manchuria Supports A Beijing
A Moscow Supports A Novosibirsk - Kazakhstan
A Novosibirsk - Kazakhstan
F Sea of Okhotsk - Yellow Sea
A St. Petersburg Supports A Moscow
A Tien Shan - Uzbekistan (*Fails*)
A Urals Supports A Novosibirsk - Kazakhstan[Reply] |
| DC 260 (Asian): F1908 Adjudication - AceRimmer (Nov 17, 2009, 4:19 pm) |
Well, after I forgot to remind you, you still all got orders in on time. Thank you for warming my heart's cockles.
It is a year of entertainment, with the Indian fleet in Iraq sliding into Iran; the Indian fleet in Sri Lanka getting disbanded; and (for the first time in a long time) meaningful orders out of Japan.
The damage?
The Indian army in Tibet will retreat to Mongolia unless I receive an OTB.
The Indian fleet in Sri Lanka is disbanded.
The Indonesian fleet in Yellow Sea is also disbanded.
The Persian fleet in Iran may retreat to Caucasus, Caspian Sea, or OTB.
Retreats due tomorrow at 1400 CST.
For W1908 (due on Friday), we'll see busy Indonesia factories. The numbers below assume no OTB retreats:
India: Supp 6 Unit 6 Build 0
Indonesia: Supp 13 Unit 10 Build 3
Japan: Supp 2 Unit 2 Build 0
Persia: Supp 8 Unit 9 Remove 1
Siberia: Supp 11 Unit 10 Build 1
F1908 Adjudication:
A Chongqing - Tibet
F East China Sea Hold
F Philippines Supports F East China Sea
F South China Sea - Thai Sea
F Seychelles Supports F Central Indian Ocean
A Shanghai Supports A Chongqing - Tibet
F Thai Sea - Bay of Bengal
F Yellow Sea - Beijing (*Disbanded*)
Japan:
F Hokkaido - East China Sea (*Fails*)
F Honshu Supports F Sea of Okhotsk - Yellow Sea
Persia:
F Arabia(ec) - Iraq
F Arabian Sea - Bombay (*Fails*)
F Iran(nc) Supports A Uzbekistan (*Dislodged*)
A Livonia - Warsaw
F Oman - Arabian Sea (*Fails*)
F Persian Gulf Supports F Arabia(ec) - Iraq
F Red Sea - Eastern Mediterranean (*Fails*)
A Sevastopol Hold
A Uzbekistan Supports F Iran(nc) (*Cut*)
Siberia:
F Bering Strait - Sea of Okhotsk
A Korea Supports A Manchuria
A Kunlun Supports F Calcutta
A Manchuria Supports A Beijing
A Moscow Supports A Novosibirsk - Kazakhstan
A Novosibirsk - Kazakhstan
F Sea of Okhotsk - Yellow Sea
A St. Petersburg Supports A Moscow
A Tien Shan - Uzbekistan (*Fails*)
A Urals Supports A Novosibirsk - Kazakhstan[Reply] |
| DC 260: S1908 New Persia, New Excitement - AceRimmer (Nov 10, 2009, 5:50 pm) |
First of all, thank you all today for your patience. I was out of office all day long.
Second, *sniff* I want you to know *sniff* that I will never be proud... *ahem* *sniff* I will never be... *waaaaughh* I will never be prouder of you than I am today. I introduced Mike to the group. I told you to be friendly and to stab him. And bless my soul if those aren't daggers I see in Moscow and Afghanistan. You are beautiful, beautiful people. Mike, it's up to you to make them regret it. I know you can do it.
The Persian army in Afghanistan now understands the moniker: Graveyard of Empires. With no retreats open, it goes to its grave. The Indian fleet in Persian Gulf, with only one retreat open to it, goes to Iraq. Let me know if you want to disband, Ross.
And all of this sets up F1908 next Tuesday, November 17th, at 10:00 a.m. CST.
S1908 Adjudication:
India:
A Beijing Supports A Tibet
F Calcutta Supports A Delhi - Bombay
A Delhi - Bombay
A Pakistan - Afghanistan
F Persian Gulf Hold (*Dislodged*)
F Sri Lanka - Central Indian Ocean (*Fails*)
A Tibet Supports A Beijing
Indonesia:
F Arabian Sea - Central Indian Ocean
F Bay of Bengal Supports F Burma - Bangladesh
F Burma - Bangladesh
A Chongqing Supports A Hong Kong - Shanghai
F East China Sea Supports F Hokkaido - Sea of Okhotsk (*Void*)
A Hong Kong - Shanghai
F Philippines Supports F East China Sea
F Seychelles Supports F Arabian Sea - Central Indian Ocean
F Shanghai - South China Sea
F Thai Sea Supports F Bay of Bengal
F Yellow Sea - Manchuria (*Fails*)
Japan:
F Hokkaido Supports F Honshu
F Honshu Supports F Hokkaido
Persia:
A Afghanistan Supports A Tien Shan - Pakistan (*Disbanded*)
F Caspian Sea - Iran(nc)
F East Africa - Arabian Sea
F Iran(sc) - Persian Gulf
F Iraq - Arabia(ec)
A Livonia - Moscow (*Fails*)
A Moscow - Sevastopol
F Oman Supports F Iran(sc) - Persian Gulf
A Uzbekistan Supports F Caspian Sea - Iran(nc)
F Yemen - Red Sea
Siberia:
F Bering Strait Supports F Sea of Okhotsk
A Kazakhstan - Moscow
A Korea Supports A Manchuria
A Kunlun Supports A Tien Shan
A Manchuria Supports A Beijing (*Cut*)
F Sea of Okhotsk Hold
A St. Petersburg Supports A Kazakhstan - Moscow
A Tien Shan Supports A Pakistan - Afghanistan
A Urals Supports A Kazakhstan - Moscow
A West Siberia - Novosibirsk[Reply] |
| DC 260 (Asian): Persia Abandoned - AceRimmer (Oct 25, 2009, 10:34 am) |
The subject line says it all. I've already opened up the position on the DC website for a replacement. Depending upon how soon we get a replacement, the new Persia will be given until the end of the week to make acquaintances and submit misorders.
Adam[Reply] |
| DC 260 (Asian): F1907R & W1907 - AceRimmer (Oct 16, 2009, 8:08 am) |
India retreats to the Persian Gulf.
Persia builds F Iraq
Siberia builds A West Siberia
S1908 will be next Thursday at 10:00 CST. Please, for the love of God and country, submit prelims.
I'm curious at this point how people are feeling about the design of this variant. Feel free to comment to the group or privately to me. I have no personal investment in whether you like or dislike the variant itself, but perhaps I'll synthesize comments and add them to the DipWiki for future generations.[Reply] |
| DC 260 (Asian): F1907 - AceRimmer (Oct 13, 2009, 9:13 am) |
Tien Shan, Land of Disbanded Armies. First it was India. Now, it's Persia. Things get a little dicey this season. For instance, Indonesia double-supports Japan into the Sea of Okhotsk; the only problem is that Japan sits pat. Persia supports himself into Afghanistan, and the thrice-supported Mongolian Horde dislodges and destroys the Tien Shan Persian army. And Indonesia kicks the Indians out of the Arabian Sea.
So, as you heard, the Persian army disbands.
The Indian fleet in Arabian Sea can retreat to Bombay, Eastern African Sea, Persian Gulf, or OTB.
Persian earns another NMR but promises me that his crazy period at work is coming to an end.
Assuming the fleet does not go OTB, we are left with:
India: Supp 7 Unit 7 Build 0
Indonesia: Supp 11 Unit 11 Build 0
Japan: Supp 2 Unit 2 Build 0
Persia: Supp 10 Unit 9 Build 1
Siberia: Supp 10 Unit 9 Build 1
So, let's do everything here in the next 24 hours -- a joint Autumn/Winter adjudication:
An Indian retreat (and adjustment if he retreats OTB)
A Siberan build
A Persian build
[Conditional adjustment orders are both hunky and dorey].
Deadline: Wednesday at 10:00 CST.
F1907 Adjudication:
India:
F Arabian Sea - Red Sea (*Dislodged*)
A Beijing Hold
F Calcutta Hold
A Delhi Supports A Mongolia - Tien Shan
A Pakistan Supports A Mongolia - Tien Shan
F Sri Lanka - Arabian Sea (*Bounce*)
A Tibet Hold
Indonesia:
F Bay of Bengal - Sri Lanka (*Fails*)
F Burma Supports F Thai Sea - Bay of Bengal (*Fails*)
F Central Indian Ocean - Arabian Sea
A Chongqing Supports F Shanghai
F East China Sea Supports F Hokkaido - Sea of Okhotsk (*Void*)
A Laos - Hong Kong
F Philippines Supports F East China Sea
F Seychelles Supports F Central Indian Ocean - Arabian Sea
F Shanghai Supports A Beijing
F Thai Sea - Bay of Bengal (*Fails*)
F Yellow Sea Supports F Hokkaido - Sea of Okhotsk (*Void*)
Japan:
F Hokkaido Supports F Honshu
F Honshu Supports F Hokkaido
Persia:
F Caspian Sea Supports A Moscow
F East Africa - Red Sea (*Bounce*)
A Iran - Afghanistan
A Livonia Supports A Moscow
A Moscow Hold
F Oman - Arabian Sea (*Bounce*)
F Persian Gulf - Iran(sc)
A Tien Shan Supports A Iran - Afghanistan (*Disbanded*)
A Uzbekistan Supports F Persian Gulf - Iran(sc) (*Cut*)
F Yemen - Red Sea (*Bounce*)
Siberia:
F Bering Strait Supports F Sea of Okhotsk
A Kazakhstan - Uzbekistan (*Fails*)
A Korea Supports A Manchuria
A Kunlun Supports A Mongolia - Tien Shan
A Manchuria Supports A Beijing
A Mongolia - Tien Shan
F Sea of Okhotsk Hold
A St. Petersburg Supports A Urals
A Urals Supports A St. Petersburg[Reply] |
| DC 260 (Asian): S1907R - AceRimmer (Oct 07, 2009, 8:40 am) |
The Indian fleet retreats to Calcutta.
Since it's Wednesday, and one player has told me the rest of the week is crazy, let's just set F1907 for Monday morning at the usual 10:00 CST (15:00 GMT).
Adam[Reply] |
| DC 260: No love for the people of India - AceRimmer (Oct 02, 2009, 2:33 pm) |
Siberia is cold and brutal. The player, not the geographic region. Not that I know the actual negotiations, but it sure looks like a case of stab and stab again. So it appears that this new SIP alliance is carving up India while Japan sits idly on the sidelines.
Is there a solo to be had? Can India's weakened position be leveraged before he has gone the way of the vinyl record? I get all tingly just thinking about it.
Two units dislodged. One retreats (Tien Shan has no such luxury). The Indian fleet in Bay of Bombay may retreat to: Bangladesh, Bombay, Calcutta, or OTB. Order due on Monday. F1907 will be next Thursday.
Note: Persia gets an NMR.
India:
F Arabian Sea Hold
F Bay of Bengal - Thailand (*Dislodged*)
A Beijing Hold
A Delhi Supports A Pakistan
A Pakistan Hold
F Sri Lanka Supports F Arabian Sea
A Tien Shan Supports A Kazakhstan - Uzbekistan (*Disbanded*)
A Tibet Supports A Beijing
Indonesia:
F Borneo - Thai Sea
F Burma - Thailand (*Bounce*)
F Central Indian Ocean Supports F Sumatra - Bay of Bengal
F East China Sea - Sea of Okhotsk (*Fails*)
A Hong Kong - Chongqing
A Laos - Thailand (*Bounce*)
F Philippines - East China Sea (*Fails*)
F Seychelles Supports F Central Indian Ocean
F Shanghai Supports F Philippines - East China Sea (*Fails*)
F Sumatra - Bay of Bengal
F Yellow Sea Supports F Shanghai
Japan:
F Hokkaido Supports F Honshu
F Honshu Supports F Hokkaido
Persia:
A Afghanistan - Tien Shan
F Caspian Sea Supports A Uzbekistan
F East Africa - Red Sea (*Bounce*)
A Iran Supports A Uzbekistan
A Livonia Supports A Moscow
A Moscow Hold
F Oman - Arabian Sea (*Fails*)
F Persian Gulf Supports A Iran
A Uzbekistan Supports A Afghanistan - Tien Shan
F Yemen - Red Sea (*Bounce*)
Siberia:
F Bering Strait Supports F Sea of Okhotsk
A Kazakhstan Supports A Novosibirsk - Mongolia
A Korea Supports A Manchuria
A Manchuria Supports A Novosibirsk - Mongolia
A Mongolia - Kunlun
A Novosibirsk - Mongolia
F Sea of Okhotsk Hold
A St. Petersburg Supports A Urals
A Urals Supports A St. Petersburg[Reply] |
