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DC-272 EOG Turkey - pieandmash   (Feb 14, 2010, 2:26 pm)
hey well big thanks to our GM for quite a marathon game.
Playing turkey game me an ace from the start and the luxury of waiting to see the desperate diplomacy in the boot powers. Joe showed that being a boot power can work very well once you have a foot in the door so to speak, or a toe hole.... not unlike standard dip, but perhaps the corners have more advantange in this map- certainly the stalemate lines for me were simple.
My long term alliance with Venice worked very well and I knew i just had to be patient.......

So dislikes of this variant- the province abbreviations- just annoyingly easy to get wrong.
Likes- the map on the whole was interesting. The power bases in the middle crazy mixed up-- making it fierce in there for the begining years.

Suggestions- even up the high risk centre by providing more neutral sc there, or less in the corners...adding more boot provinces perhaps

thanks guys was fun ( and especially thanks to Mike for covering for me)



From: The White Wolf <cloudhurler77(at)yahoo.com>
To: Aidan Slattery <aislattery(at)aol.com>; Andrew Jameson <cloudhurler77(at)yahoo.com>; DC272 Forum <dc272(at)diplomaticcorp.com>; Garry Bledsoe <kielmarch(at)hotmail.com>; Joe Babinsack <chaosonejoe(at)yahoo.com>; Mark Utterbach <mdemagogue(at)gmail.com>; Max Victory <maxatrest(at)yahoo.co.uk>; Nathan ACD235-Persia Deily <ndeily(at)yahoo.com>; Nick Cherrier <zeclient(at)hotmail.com>
Sent: Fri, 12 February, 2010 20:54:29
Subject: DC-272 Game Over

Guys,
I'm pleased to announce the end of DC-272: Machiavelli Map-Only Play Test. A unanimous YES vote to the T/V draw means you can all feel free to move on to your next challenge. Thanks for participating, and I'd personally appreciate EoG statements. Specifically, since this was a play test, I'd like to see your comments on map balance, what you'd like to see changed, etc. You can send them Reply All or directly to me (I'll send them to everyone). Thanks for playing!
I hope my quotes put you all in mind of the man this variant is named for. At the least, I hope you enjoyed reading them. This final quote says as much about Diplomacy players as any other group of people - I am pleased to acquaint myself with all of you, and hope to run into you many times in future games.


"There is no better indication of a man’s character than the company which he keeps; and therefor very properly a man who keeps respectable company acquires a good name, for it is impossible that there should not be some similitude of character and habits between him and his associates." - Niccoló Machiavelli, The Discourses. 1517


Players:

Austria: Aidan Slattery <AiSlattery(at)aol.com>
France: Mark Utterbach <MDemagogue(at)gmail.com>
Florence: Joe Babinsack <chaosonejoe(at)yahoo.com>
Milan: Nick Cherrier <zeclient(at)hotmail.com>
Naples: Nathan Deily <ndeily(at)yahoo.com>
Papacy: Kevin Burt <Brutus(at)wbhsi.net>
Turkey: Max Victory <maxatrest(at)yahoo.co.uk>
Venice: Garry Bledsoe <kielmarch(at)hotmail.com>


Draw Proposals:

Venice/Turkey 2-way draw (France and Florence get survival) :: Succeeded


Final Disposition:

Austria: ELIMINATED 1459

France: 8 Centers, Survival

Florence: 9 Centers, Survival

Milan: ELIMINATED 1460

Naples: ELIMINATED 1456

Papacy: ELIMINATED 1456

Turkey: 11 Centers, Draw Participant

Venice: 16 Centers, Draw Participant


Final Map and RP file (as of Autumn 1461) are attached for your convenience, enjoy!

Thanks all,
The White Wolf
I'm a Firefly fan and proud! Read my fiction:
http://www.fanfiction.net/u/1369632/

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DC-272 Game Over - chaosonejoe   (Feb 12, 2010, 7:34 pm)
Well, that was fun for a while, tedious at times, and mostly interesting.

I've been around the Diplomacy board for a long time, face-to-face, a few mail games, and rounds of email (of which I've been in more than a few recently, and mostly in spurts of activity.

Obviously I dared to choose Florence for the obvious connections. I've studied Machiavelli, put together a few game concepts, and respect the man as a writer/commentator/political analyst. But then, I don't quote him all that often.

Definite differences between this game and Dip, and this game and the board game. The lack of 'other' options than pure diplomacy definitely changes things up. The reliance on the board seems vastly unbalanced, yet strangely enough I lucked into some early success, and Venice played well in the endgame (as it were, because once Garry turned on me and turned the tide, it was rather obvious where it was headed.)

I did have disappointment in the decided lack of communcation. As Mr. Wolf said, there was leniency in the playtest aspect, and because of that, I think we all strayed from routine. I'm thinking that turned into a decided indifference to give-and-take at the tipping point, but that's my perspective.

Start of game was really intense, and seems to be the most fascinating aspect of the board. Papacy/Florence/Naples is just crazy in the setup. Unfortunately, our dear friend Brutus decided to role-play, and I do admit that was hard to handle. However it did allow for some double-dealing with Nathan, and then a "I can't believe the opportunity" moment when I saw five centers open and a major stab of my Napolitan ally ensued.

(As an aside, I did get harsh in tone and words with Brutus. No major regrets, but my main point is that a game is a game, and if someone chooses to be a pompous .... well, a pompous character, when everyone else is playing the game and not playing a character, there comes a time when you begin to grate on nerves, and not enhance the enjoyability of the game. At that point, elimination is the goal. Sorry.)

Well, to be honest, Nathan specifically alerted me to how badly things were going with Turkey, and not exactly studying the entirety of the board, I leapt at the info, realizing that I could more than cripple Naples and would have to race Turkey for centers down south regardless. Strangely enough, there was no coordination between myself and Max, but we vanquished Naples nonetheless.

Was it wrong? Well, in hindsight, without a solid border north and without the proper array of forces, and a laxadaisical effort, it didn't turn out well! Also, taking the center lead with that massive gain, especially at that point of the game, and not enforcing a strategy doomed me.

I went for balance, and with the chaos builds and the impossibility of holding back builds and the lack of restrictions on it meant taking a guess. As I foolishly indicated to Garry, I was horribly out of position. (Yeah, I learnt well from what I did earlier with Naples!)

Lack of garrison changes offered no help for me. Also that sea zone spacing really caused strategy issues for me (as well as my two year misreading of adjacency) as I felt the need to see the TS zone, but overcommitted forces and yet was unable to maintain it.

The north seemed interesting enough. I sided with France early, trying to keep a balance weight against what seemed to be a Milan eager to ally with everyone. I mentioned to Nick that the concept of promising other peoples centers for alliance purposes never makes sense. I had a distrust of Milan early, and was eager to work with Venice and France to force him out.

Of course, I was in no way prepared to defend against Venice, and foolishly though I had another turn or two to deal with it.

From there, battling Turkey kept me busy, and there were way too many stabs with Mark and no way to muster the naval forces in the West. I found it odd that Venice/Turkey worked the truce in the East, but it was obviously working and forced me to the draw before I got gobbled up for good.

I will say that the earlier draw proposals were insulting, and definitely would say that a legit offer a month ago would have ended the game accordingly.

Best to all, and I look forward to gaming with you guys in the future.

And special thanks to The White Wolf for running this playtest. I know I had my memory issues, deadline misses and other assorted annoyances like most others.

--Joe Babinsack

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DC-272 Game Over - TheWhiteWolf   (Feb 12, 2010, 2:54 pm)
Guys,
I'm pleased to announce the end of DC-272: Machiavelli Map-Only Play Test. A unanimous YES vote to the T/V draw means you can all feel free to move on to your next challenge. Thanks for participating, and I'd personally appreciate EoG statements. Specifically, since this was a play test, I'd like to see your comments on map balance, what you'd like to see changed, etc. You can send them Reply All or directly to me (I'll send them to everyone). Thanks for playing!
I hope my quotes put you all in mind of the man this variant is named for. At the least, I hope you enjoyed reading them. This final quote says as much about Diplomacy players as any other group of people - I am pleased to acquaint myself with all of you, and hope to run into you many times in future games.


"There is no better indication of a man’s character than the company which he keeps; and therefor very properly a man who keeps respectable company acquires a good name, for it is impossible that there should not be some similitude of character and habits between him and his associates." - Niccoló Machiavelli, The Discourses. 1517


Players:

Austria: Aidan Slattery <AiSlattery(at)aol.com>
France: Mark Utterbach <MDemagogue(at)gmail.com>
Florence: Joe Babinsack <chaosonejoe(at)yahoo.com>
Milan: Nick Cherrier <zeclient(at)hotmail.com>
Naples: Nathan Deily <ndeily(at)yahoo.com>
Papacy: Kevin Burt <Brutus(at)wbhsi.net>
Turkey: Max Victory <maxatrest(at)yahoo.co.uk>
Venice: Garry Bledsoe <kielmarch(at)hotmail.com>


Draw Proposals:

Venice/Turkey 2-way draw (France and Florence get survival) :: Succeeded


Final Disposition:

Austria: ELIMINATED 1459

France: 8 Centers, Survival

Florence: 9 Centers, Survival

Milan: ELIMINATED 1460

Naples: ELIMINATED 1456

Papacy: ELIMINATED 1456

Turkey: 11 Centers, Draw Participant

Venice: 16 Centers, Draw Participant


Final Map and RP file (as of Autumn 1461) are attached for your convenience, enjoy!

Thanks all,
The White Wolf
I'm a Firefly fan and proud! Read my fiction:
http://www.fanfiction.net/u/1369632/

[Reply]

DC-272 Game Over (dc272) chaosonejoe Feb 12, 07:34 pm
Well, that was fun for a while, tedious at times, and mostly interesting.

I've been around the Diplomacy board for a long time, face-to-face, a few mail games, and rounds of email (of which I've been in more than a few recently, and mostly in spurts of activity.

Obviously I dared to choose Florence for the obvious connections. I've studied Machiavelli, put together a few game concepts, and respect the man as a writer/commentator/political analyst. But then, I don't quote him all that often.

Definite differences between this game and Dip, and this game and the board game. The lack of 'other' options than pure diplomacy definitely changes things up. The reliance on the board seems vastly unbalanced, yet strangely enough I lucked into some early success, and Venice played well in the endgame (as it were, because once Garry turned on me and turned the tide, it was rather obvious where it was headed.)

I did have disappointment in the decided lack of communcation. As Mr. Wolf said, there was leniency in the playtest aspect, and because of that, I think we all strayed from routine. I'm thinking that turned into a decided indifference to give-and-take at the tipping point, but that's my perspective.

Start of game was really intense, and seems to be the most fascinating aspect of the board. Papacy/Florence/Naples is just crazy in the setup. Unfortunately, our dear friend Brutus decided to role-play, and I do admit that was hard to handle. However it did allow for some double-dealing with Nathan, and then a "I can't believe the opportunity" moment when I saw five centers open and a major stab of my Napolitan ally ensued.

(As an aside, I did get harsh in tone and words with Brutus. No major regrets, but my main point is that a game is a game, and if someone chooses to be a pompous .... well, a pompous character, when everyone else is playing the game and not playing a character, there comes a time when you begin to grate on nerves, and not enhance the enjoyability of the game. At that point, elimination is the goal. Sorry.)

Well, to be honest, Nathan specifically alerted me to how badly things were going with Turkey, and not exactly studying the entirety of the board, I leapt at the info, realizing that I could more than cripple Naples and would have to race Turkey for centers down south regardless. Strangely enough, there was no coordination between myself and Max, but we vanquished Naples nonetheless.

Was it wrong? Well, in hindsight, without a solid border north and without the proper array of forces, and a laxadaisical effort, it didn't turn out well! Also, taking the center lead with that massive gain, especially at that point of the game, and not enforcing a strategy doomed me.

I went for balance, and with the chaos builds and the impossibility of holding back builds and the lack of restrictions on it meant taking a guess. As I foolishly indicated to Garry, I was horribly out of position. (Yeah, I learnt well from what I did earlier with Naples!)

Lack of garrison changes offered no help for me. Also that sea zone spacing really caused strategy issues for me (as well as my two year misreading of adjacency) as I felt the need to see the TS zone, but overcommitted forces and yet was unable to maintain it.

The north seemed interesting enough. I sided with France early, trying to keep a balance weight against what seemed to be a Milan eager to ally with everyone. I mentioned to Nick that the concept of promising other peoples centers for alliance purposes never makes sense. I had a distrust of Milan early, and was eager to work with Venice and France to force him out.

Of course, I was in no way prepared to defend against Venice, and foolishly though I had another turn or two to deal with it.

From there, battling Turkey kept me busy, and there were way too many stabs with Mark and no way to muster the naval forces in the West. I found it odd that Venice/Turkey worked the truce in the East, but it was obviously working and forced me to the draw before I got gobbled up for good.

I will say that the earlier draw proposals were insulting, and definitely would say that a legit offer a month ago would have ended the game accordingly.

Best to all, and I look forward to gaming with you guys in the future.

And special thanks to The White Wolf for running this playtest. I know I had my memory issues, deadline misses and other assorted annoyances like most others.

--Joe Babinsack
DC-272 Deadline Delay - TheWhiteWolf   (Feb 11, 2010, 4:53 pm)
I swear, guys, this is the last time I push back a deadline for missing orders. I've received one set of adjustments for winter, which is due in EIGHT minutes. I'm extending us by 24 hours, which means I want them TOMORROW. Please? (Also, I have yet to receive one end game vote - you know who you are.)

Wolf

I'm a Firefly fan and proud! Read my fiction:
http://www.fanfiction.net/u/1369632/

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DC-272 Autumn 1461 Adjudication - TheWhiteWolf   (Feb 09, 2010, 3:17 pm)
Guys,
A nice, quick Autumn turn, thanks. I've already received three draw votes - feel free to change your vote up until the deadline. Nothing but builds this winter - seems we had a run on dislodged/disbanded units this year!


"The great majority of mankind are satisfied with appearances, as though they are realities, and are often even more influenced by the things that seem than by those that are." - Niccoló Machiavelli, The Discourses. 1517


Players:

Austria: Aidan Slattery <AiSlattery(at)aol.com>
France: Mark Utterbach <MDemagogue(at)gmail.com>
Florence: Joe Babinsack <chaosonejoe(at)yahoo.com>
Milan: Nick Cherrier <zeclient(at)hotmail.com>
Naples: Nathan Deily <ndeily(at)yahoo.com>
Papacy: Kevin Burt <Brutus(at)wbhsi.net>
Turkey: Max Victory <maxatrest(at)yahoo.co.uk>
Venice: Garry Bledsoe <kielmarch(at)hotmail.com>


Draw Proposals:

Venice/Turkey 2-way draw (France and Florence would get survival) :: Due by winter deadline


Orders:

France:
disband A Austria

Venice:
F Upper Adriatic - Venice


Unit Positions: (SCs/Units)

Austria: ELIMINATED 1459

France: (8/7) - Build 1
Armies - Cri, Gen, Mon, Slu, Swi, Tur
Fleets - Pro

Florence: (9/Cool - Build 1
Armies - Flo, Per, Spo, Urb
Fleets - Cor, LS, Psa, Sie

Milan: ELIMINATED 1460

Naples: ELIMINATED 1456

Papacy: ELIMINATED 1456

Turkey: (11/9) - Build 2
Armies - Anc, Aqu
Fleets - Cap, Dal, GOL, LA, Sar, TS, UA

Venice: (16/13) - Build 3
Armies - Aus, Bol, Com, Crn, For, Luc, Man, Mod, Pat, Pav, Sla, Tyr
Fleets - UA (pending retreat)


Deadline:

Winter 1461 is due Thursday, 11 February at 6pm EST (11pm GMT.)
Any issues or errors, let me know.


Map and RP file are attached for your convenience, enjoy!

Thanks all,
The White Wolf
I'm a Firefly fan and proud! Read my fiction:
http://www.fanfiction.net/u/1369632/

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DC-272 Fall 1461 Adjudication - TheWhiteWolf   (Feb 08, 2010, 6:08 pm)
Guys,
All orders are in (one set four minutes before deadline - talk about skills!) and we're ready to go. I'd like to thank Mike Sims for standing in as the Turks, but it's time for him to hand the scepter back to Max. Please conduct all further negotiations with him. The draw result, as well as a new draw proposal, are below.


"The ambition of men is such that; to gratify a present desire, they think not of the evils which will in a short time result from it. Nor will they be influenced by the examples of antiquity...." - Niccoló Machiavelli, The Discourses. 1517


Players:

Austria: Aidan Slattery <AiSlattery(at)aol.com>
France: Mark Utterbach <MDemagogue(at)gmail.com>
Florence: Joe Babinsack <chaosonejoe(at)yahoo.com>
Milan: Nick Cherrier <zeclient(at)hotmail.com>
Naples: Nathan Deily <ndeily(at)yahoo.com>
Papacy: Kevin Burt <Brutus(at)wbhsi.net>
Turkey: Max Victory <maxatrest(at)yahoo.co.uk>
Venice: Garry Bledsoe <kielmarch(at)hotmail.com>


Draw Proposals:

Venice/Turkey/Florence 3-way draw (France would get survival) :: FAILED

Venice/Turkey 2-way draw (France and Florence would get survival) :: Due by winter deadline


Orders:

France:
A Austria - Tyrol (*Dislodged*)
A Avignon - Turin
A Genoa - Savoy (*Bounce*)
A Montferrat Supports A Avignon - Turin (*Cut*)
F Provence - Savoy (*Bounce*)
A Savoy - Saluzzo
A Slavonia - Carinthia
A Swiss Supports A Avignon - Turin

Florence:
A Arezzo - Urbino
F Corsica - Sardinia (*Fails*)
A Florence Supports A Arezzo - Urbino
F Ligurian Sea Supports A Lucca - Modena
A Lucca - Modena (*Disbanded*)
A Perugia Hold
F Piombino - Pisa
F Siena - Patrimony (*Fails*)
A Spoleto - Rome (*Bounce*)

Turkey:
A Ancona - Urbino (*Fails*)
A Aquila - Ancona (*Fails*)
F Capua - Rome (*Bounce*)
F Dalmatia Supports F Lower Adriatic - Upper Adriatic
F Ionian Sea - Lower Adriatic
F Lower Adriatic - Upper Adriatic
F Sardinia Supports F Western Mediterranean - Gulf of Lyons (*Cut*)
F Tyrrhenian Sea Supports F Western Mediterranean - Gulf of Lyons
F Western Mediterranean - Gulf of Lyons

Venice:
A Carinthia - Austria
A Carniola Supports A Croatia - Slavonia
A Croatia - Slavonia
A Ferrara - Bologna
A Mantua Supports A Modena
A Milan - Como
A Modena Supports A Pistoia - Lucca
A Parma - Fornovo
A Patrimony - Rome (*Bounce*)
A Pavia - Montferrat (*Fails*)
A Pistoia - Lucca
A Turin Supports A Pavia - Montferrat (*Disbanded*)
A Tyrol Supports A Carinthia - Austria
F Upper Adriatic Supports A Ferrara - Bologna (*Dislodged*)
A Urbino - Florence (*Disbanded*)


Retreats:

French A Austria can retreat to Hungary or OTB.
Florentine A Lucca has no retreats, disbanded.
Venetian A Turin has no retreats, disbanded.
Venetian F Upper Adriatic can retreat to Croatia, Ferrara, Friuli, Istria, Padua, Venice or OTB.
Venetian A Urbino has no retreats, disbanded.


Unit Positions: (SCs/Units)

Austria: ELIMINATED 1459

France: (9/Cool
Armies - Cri, Gen, Mon, Slu, Swi, Tur, Aus (pending retreat)
Fleets - Pro

Florence: (10/Cool
Armies - Flo, Per, Spo, Urb
Fleets - Cor, LS, Psa, Sie

Milan: ELIMINATED 1460

Naples: ELIMINATED 1456

Papacy: ELIMINATED 1456

Turkey: (9/9)
Armies - Anc, Aqu
Fleets - Cap, Dal, GOL, LA, Sar, TS, UA

Venice: (16/13)
Armies - Aus, Bol, Com, Crn, For, Luc, Man, Mod, Pat, Pav, Sla, Tyr
Fleets - UA (pending retreat)


Deadline:

Autumn 1461 is due ((tomorrow)) Tuesday, 9 February at 6pm EST (11pm GMT.)
Any issues or errors, let me know.


Map and RP file are attached for your convenience, enjoy!

Thanks all,
The White Wolf
I'm a Firefly fan and proud! Read my fiction:
http://www.fanfiction.net/u/1369632/

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DC-272 Spring 1461 Adjudication - TheWhiteWolf   (Feb 01, 2010, 7:26 pm)
Guys,
Thanks for getting all orders in on time. I'm trying to hurry a bit tonight, so please check for errors. There's a draw proposal on the table, please vote with the deadline.


"It is not likely that one who has always lived in a private position should know how to command." - Niccoló Machiavelli, The Prince. 1537


Players:

Austria: Aidan Slattery <AiSlattery(at)aol.com>
France: Mark Utterbach <MDemagogue(at)gmail.com>
Florence: Joe Babinsack <chaosonejoe(at)yahoo.com>
Milan: Nick Cherrier <zeclient(at)hotmail.com>
Naples: Nathan Deily <ndeily(at)yahoo.com>
Papacy: Kevin Burt <Brutus(at)wbhsi.net>
Turkey: Max Victory <maxatrest(at)yahoo.co.uk>
Venice: Garry Bledsoe <kielmarch(at)hotmail.com>


Draw Proposals:

Venice/Turkey/Florence 3-way draw (France would get survival)


Orders:

France:
A Austria Supports A Hungary - Slavonia
A Hungary - Slavonia
A Montferrat Supports A Savoy - Genoa
F Provence - Marseille (*Bounce*)
A Saluzzo - Savoy
F Sardinia - Gulf of Lyons (*Disbanded*)
A Savoy - Genoa
A Swiss Supports A Turin - Avignon
A Turin - Avignon

Florence:
A Arezzo Supports A Rome - Perugia
F Avignon - Marseille (*Disbanded*)
F Corsica - Sardinia (*Fails*)
A Florence Supports A Lucca - Bologna
F Ligurian Sea - Gulf of Lyons (*Bounce*)
A Lucca - Bologna (*Bounce*)
F Piombino - Ligurian Sea (*Fails*)
A Rome - Perugia
F Siena Hold
A Spoleto Supports A Aquila - Ancona

Turkey:
A Aquila - Ancona
A Capua - Aquila
F Central Mediterranean - Tyrrhenian Sea
F Dalmatia - Upper Adriatic (*Fails*)
F Lower Adriatic Supports A Aquila - Ancona
F Naples - Capua
F Palermo - Ionian Sea
F Tyrrhenian Sea - Sardinia
F Western Mediterranean Supports F Tyrrhenian Sea - Sardinia

Venice:
F Ancona Supports F Upper Adriatic (*Disbanded*)
A Bologna - Pistoia
A Carniola Supports A Trent - Carinthia
A Como - Turin
A Croatia - Urbino
A Ferrara - Bologna (*Bounce*)
A Mantua Supports A Modena
A Milan Supports A Tyrol
A Modena Supports A Ferrara - Bologna
A Parma Supports A Pavia
A Pavia Supports A Como - Turin
A Perugia - Rome (*Dislodged*)
A Slavonia Supports A Trent - Carinthia (*Dislodged*)
A Trent - Carinthia
A Tyrol Supports A Como - Turin
F Upper Adriatic Convoys A Croatia - Urbino


Retreats:

Venetian F Ancona has no retreats, disbanded.
Florentine F Avignon has no retreats, disbanded.
Venetian A Perugia can retreat to Patrimony or OTB.
French F Sardinia has no retreats, disbanded.
Venetian A Slavonia can retreat to Croatia or OTB.

NOTE: Given the lack of multiple options for each of the retreating units, I've taken the liberty. Please let me know, Garry, if you're prefer OTB.


Unit Positions: (SCs/Units)

Austria: ELIMINATED 1459

France: (9/Cool
Armies - Aus, Avi, Gen, Mon, Sav, Sla, Swi
Fleets - Pro, Sar

Florence: (10/9)
Armies - Are, Flo, Luc, Per, Spo
Fleets - Cor, LS, Pio, Sie

Milan: ELIMINATED 1460

Naples: ELIMINATED 1456

Papacy: ELIMINATED 1456

Turkey: (9/9)
Armies - Anc, Aqu
Fleets - Cap, Dal, IS, LA, Sar, TS, WM

Venice: (16/15)
Armies - Cri, Crn, Cro, Fer, Man, Mil, Mod, Par, Pat, Pav, Pst, Tur, Tyr, Urb
Fleets - UA


Deadline:

Fall 1461 is due Monday, 8 February at 6pm EST (11pm GMT.)
Any issues or errors, let me know.


Map and RP file are attached for your convenience, enjoy!

Thanks all,
The White Wolf
I'm a Firefly fan and proud! Read my fiction:
http://www.fanfiction.net/u/1369632/

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DC-272 New Turkey - FuzzyLogic   (Jan 25, 2010, 4:00 pm)
If my read is correct, this is now a 4-player game. Garry / Joe / Mark / me?

Why are various draws being circulated that will exclude France and/or Florence? Why am I so cool that I'm being included in the various draws? Who is trying to get more than a 4-way out of this, and what is your plan to do so? Am I included in that plan? If so, let's do it. If not, may you burn in a pit of smouldering luke-warm coals until such time as you get annoyed and have to smoulder there longer.


From: The White Wolf [mailto:cloudhurler77(at)yahoo.com]
Sent: Mon 1/25/2010 3:05 PM
To: Aidan Slattery; Andrew Jameson; dc272; Garry Bledsoe; Joe Babinsack; Mark Utterbach; Max Victory; Michael Sims; Nathan ACD235-Persia Deily; Nick Cherrier
Subject: DC-272 New Turkey


Guys,
I'd like to welcome our esteemed DC Moderator, Mike Sims, to the game. He'll be standing in as Turkey until/unless Max comes back. The revised player list is below. The new deadline for Spring 1461 is Monday, February 1 at 6pm EST (11pm GMT).

Austria: Aidan Slattery <AiSlattery(at)aol.com>
France: Mark Utterbach <MDemagogue(at)gmail.com>
Florence: Joe Babinsack <chaosonejoe(at)yahoo.com>
Milan: Nick Cherrier <zeclient(at)hotmail.com>
Naples: Nathan Deily <ndeily(at)yahoo.com>
Papacy: Kevin Burt <Brutus(at)wbhsi.net>
Turkey: Mike Sims <mike(at)fuzzylogicllc.net>
Venice: Garry Bledsoe <kielmarch(at)hotmail.com>

Game on!
The White Wolf

I'm a Firefly fan and proud! Read my fiction:
http://www.fanfiction.net/u/1369632/

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DC-272 New Turkey - TheWhiteWolf   (Jan 25, 2010, 3:05 pm)
Guys,
I'd like to welcome our esteemed DC Moderator, Mike Sims, to the game. He'll be standing in as Turkey until/unless Max comes back. The revised player list is below. The new deadline for Spring 1461 is Monday, February 1 at 6pm EST (11pm GMT).

Austria: Aidan Slattery <AiSlattery(at)aol.com>
France: Mark Utterbach <MDemagogue(at)gmail.com>
Florence: Joe Babinsack <chaosonejoe(at)yahoo.com>
Milan: Nick Cherrier <zeclient(at)hotmail.com>
Naples: Nathan Deily <ndeily(at)yahoo.com>
Papacy: Kevin Burt <Brutus(at)wbhsi.net>
Turkey: Mike Sims <mike(at)fuzzylogicllc.net>
Venice: Garry Bledsoe <kielmarch(at)hotmail.com>

Game on!
The White Wolf

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DC-272 New Turkey (dc272) FuzzyLogic Jan 25, 04:00 pm
If my read is correct, this is now a 4-player game. Garry / Joe / Mark / me?

Why are various draws being circulated that will exclude France and/or Florence? Why am I so cool that I'm being included in the various draws? Who is trying to get more than a 4-way out of this, and what is your plan to do so? Am I included in that plan? If so, let's do it. If not, may you burn in a pit of smouldering luke-warm coals until such time as you get annoyed and have to smoulder there longer.


From: The White Wolf [mailto:cloudhurler77(at)yahoo.com]
Sent: Mon 1/25/2010 3:05 PM
To: Aidan Slattery; Andrew Jameson; dc272; Garry Bledsoe; Joe Babinsack; Mark Utterbach; Max Victory; Michael Sims; Nathan ACD235-Persia Deily; Nick Cherrier
Subject: DC-272 New Turkey


Guys,
I'd like to welcome our esteemed DC Moderator, Mike Sims, to the game. He'll be standing in as Turkey until/unless Max comes back. The revised player list is below. The new deadline for Spring 1461 is Monday, February 1 at 6pm EST (11pm GMT).

Austria: Aidan Slattery <AiSlattery(at)aol.com>
France: Mark Utterbach <MDemagogue(at)gmail.com>
Florence: Joe Babinsack <chaosonejoe(at)yahoo.com>
Milan: Nick Cherrier <zeclient(at)hotmail.com>
Naples: Nathan Deily <ndeily(at)yahoo.com>
Papacy: Kevin Burt <Brutus(at)wbhsi.net>
Turkey: Mike Sims <mike(at)fuzzylogicllc.net>
Venice: Garry Bledsoe <kielmarch(at)hotmail.com>

Game on!
The White Wolf

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DC-272 Seeking Replacement Turkey - chaosonejoe   (Jan 22, 2010, 1:15 pm)
Although a new Turkey theoretically gives me more potential than others, I am willing to rescind my "no" vote on the option to give Venice/Turkey a win. I will accept "survivor" status, with France.

I think prolonging this playtest means a vastly different and extended game.

--Joe

--- On Fri, 1/22/10, The White Wolf <cloudhurler77(at)yahoo.com> wrote:


From: The White Wolf <cloudhurler77(at)yahoo.com>
Subject: DC-272 Seeking Replacement Turkey
To: "Aidan Slattery" <aislattery(at)aol.com>, "Andrew Jameson" <cloudhurler77(at)yahoo.com>, "DC272 Forum" <dc272(at)diplomaticcorp.com>, "Garry Bledsoe" <kielmarch(at)hotmail.com>, "Joe Babinsack" <chaosonejoe(at)yahoo.com>, "Mark Utterbach" <mdemagogue(at)gmail.com>, "Max Victory" <maxatrest(at)yahoo.co.uk>, "Nathan ACD235-Persia Deily" <ndeily(at)yahoo.com>, "Nick Cherrier" <zeclient(at)hotmail.com>
Date: Friday, January 22, 2010, 12:47 PM

Guys,
I've been informed that Max has had a family emergency, and has to withdraw from the game. I'm putting the game up for recruiting and delaying the deadline until we find our new sultan.

The White Wolf

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DC-272 Seeking Replacement Turkey - TheWhiteWolf   (Jan 22, 2010, 11:46 am)
Guys,
I've been informed that Max has had a family emergency, and has to withdraw from the game. I'm putting the game up for recruiting and delaying the deadline until we find our new sultan.

The White Wolf

I'm a Firefly fan and proud! Read my fiction:
http://www.fanfiction.net/u/1369632/

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DC-272 Seeking Replacement Turkey (dc272) chaosonejoe Jan 22, 01:15 pm
Although a new Turkey theoretically gives me more potential than others, I am willing to rescind my "no" vote on the option to give Venice/Turkey a win. I will accept "survivor" status, with France.

I think prolonging this playtest means a vastly different and extended game.

--Joe

--- On Fri, 1/22/10, The White Wolf <cloudhurler77(at)yahoo.com> wrote:


From: The White Wolf <cloudhurler77(at)yahoo.com>
Subject: DC-272 Seeking Replacement Turkey
To: "Aidan Slattery" <aislattery(at)aol.com>, "Andrew Jameson" <cloudhurler77(at)yahoo.com>, "DC272 Forum" <dc272(at)diplomaticcorp.com>, "Garry Bledsoe" <kielmarch(at)hotmail.com>, "Joe Babinsack" <chaosonejoe(at)yahoo.com>, "Mark Utterbach" <mdemagogue(at)gmail.com>, "Max Victory" <maxatrest(at)yahoo.co.uk>, "Nathan ACD235-Persia Deily" <ndeily(at)yahoo.com>, "Nick Cherrier" <zeclient(at)hotmail.com>
Date: Friday, January 22, 2010, 12:47 PM

Guys,
I've been informed that Max has had a family emergency, and has to withdraw from the game. I'm putting the game up for recruiting and delaying the deadline until we find our new sultan.

The White Wolf

I'm a Firefly fan and proud! Read my fiction:
http://www.fanfiction.net/u/1369632/




DC-272 Winter 1460 Adjudication - TheWhiteWolf   (Jan 19, 2010, 3:31 pm)
Guys,
Thanks for showing me a more positive turn. I feel better about this play test already.
Both draw proposals failed, as I've noted in the Draws section below. Play on!


"Men rise from one ambition to another; first they seek to secure themselves from attack, then they attack others." - Niccoló Machiavelli


Players:

Austria: Aidan Slattery <AiSlattery(at)aol.com>
France: Mark Utterbach <MDemagogue(at)gmail.com>
Florence: Joe Babinsack <chaosonejoe(at)yahoo.com>
Milan: Nick Cherrier <zeclient(at)hotmail.com>
Naples: Nathan Deily <ndeily(at)yahoo.com>
Papacy: Kevin Burt <Brutus(at)wbhsi.net>
Turkey: Max Victory <maxatrest(at)yahoo.co.uk>
Venice: Garry Bledsoe <kielmarch(at)hotmail.com>


Draw Proposals:

Venice/Turkey 2-way draw (France/Florence would get survival) ::: FAILED
Venice/Turkey/France 3-way draw (Florence would get survival) ::: FAILED


Orders:

Florence:
Remove F Genoa

Milan:
Remove A Fornovo

Venice:
Build A Bologna
Build A Trent
Build A Carniola


Unit Positions: (SCs/Units)

Austria: ELIMINATED 1459

France: (9/9)
Armies - Aus, Hun, Mon, Sav, Slu, Swi, Tur
Fleets - Pro, Sar

Florence: (10/10)
Armies - Are, Flo, Luc, Rom, Spo
Fleets - Avi, Cor, LS, Pio, Sie

Milan: ELIMINATED 1460

Naples: ELIMINATED 1456

Papacy: ELIMINATED 1456

Turkey: (9/9)
Armies - Aqu, Cap
Fleets - CM, Dal, LA, Nap, Pal, TS, WM

Venice: (16/16)
Armies - Bol, Com, Crn, Cro, Fer, Man, Mil, Mod, Par, Pav, Per, Sla, Trn, Tyr
Fleets - Anc, UA


Deadline:

Spring 1461 is due Tuesday, 26 January at 6pm EST (11pm GMT.)
Any issues or errors, let me know.


Map and RP file are attached for your convenience, enjoy!

Thanks all,
The White Wolf
I'm a Firefly fan and proud! Read my fiction:
http://www.fanfiction.net/u/1369632/

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DC-272 Intent to Adjudicate Early - TheWhiteWolf   (Jan 18, 2010, 9:55 pm)
Guys,
I have all the winter adjustments in early, so I plan to adjudicate tomorrow after work (around 3-ish, give or take.) I just wanted you all to have a heads-up in case you have the last-minute desire to change your build/disband.

Wolf

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http://www.fanfiction.net/u/1369632/

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DC-272 Addendum - zeclient   (Jan 18, 2010, 7:37 am)
Hi guys,

Thanks Wolf for clearing this out. Hope you guys enjoy the rest of the game.

Cheers,

Nick

PS: Be good to your GM and submit early Wink

Date: Sun, 17 Jan 2010 21:48:25 -0800
From: cloudhurler77(at)yahoo.com
Subject: DC-272 Addendum
To: aislattery(at)aol.com; cloudhurler77(at)yahoo.com; dc272(at)diplomaticcorp.com; kielmarch(at)hotmail.com; chaosonejoe(at)yahoo.com; mdemagogue(at)gmail.com; maxatrest(at)yahoo.co.uk; ndeily(at)yahoo.com; zeclient(at)hotmail.com

.ExternalClass DIV {;} Folks,
I made a mistake in the latest adjudication. Nick submitted a hold order quite a while before the adjudication, which I apparently never entered into RealPolitik or my deadline matrix. I'd like to apologize to Nick, and note that this is not an NMR, but also does not affect the adjudication. Thanks to Nick for sticking with us til the bitter end (despite the GM's inattention).

Wolf

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DC-272 Addendum - TheWhiteWolf   (Jan 17, 2010, 11:48 pm)
Folks,
I made a mistake in the latest adjudication. Nick submitted a hold order quite a while before the adjudication, which I apparently never entered into RealPolitik or my deadline matrix. I'd like to apologize to Nick, and note that this is not an NMR, but also does not affect the adjudication. Thanks to Nick for sticking with us til the bitter end (despite the GM's inattention).

Wolf

I'm a Firefly fan and proud! Read my fiction:
http://www.fanfiction.net/u/1369632/

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DC-272 Addendum (dc272) zeclient Jan 18, 07:37 am
Hi guys,

Thanks Wolf for clearing this out. Hope you guys enjoy the rest of the game.

Cheers,

Nick

PS: Be good to your GM and submit early Wink

Date: Sun, 17 Jan 2010 21:48:25 -0800
From: cloudhurler77(at)yahoo.com
Subject: DC-272 Addendum
To: aislattery(at)aol.com; cloudhurler77(at)yahoo.com; dc272(at)diplomaticcorp.com; kielmarch(at)hotmail.com; chaosonejoe(at)yahoo.com; mdemagogue(at)gmail.com; maxatrest(at)yahoo.co.uk; ndeily(at)yahoo.com; zeclient(at)hotmail.com

.ExternalClass DIV {;} Folks,
I made a mistake in the latest adjudication. Nick submitted a hold order quite a while before the adjudication, which I apparently never entered into RealPolitik or my deadline matrix. I'd like to apologize to Nick, and note that this is not an NMR, but also does not affect the adjudication. Thanks to Nick for sticking with us til the bitter end (despite the GM's inattention).

Wolf

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http://www.fanfiction.net/u/1369632/



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DC-272 Fall 1460 Adjudication - chaosonejoe   (Jan 17, 2010, 6:19 pm)
Seriously?

I vote no on both. That ends that.

--Joe


Draw Proposals:

Venice/Turkey 2-way draw (France/Florence would get survival)
Venice/Turkey/France 3-way draw (Florence would get survival)


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DC-272 Fall 1460 Adjudication - TheWhiteWolf   (Jan 17, 2010, 1:55 pm)
Guys,
This constant need to chase down your orders is getting a little absurd. I'd to see prelims from you all from here out. Don't expect me to send deadline reminders - if I do, it's a bonus. The deadline is your responsibility, and I really expect better from such an experienced group of players.
I never received an order for Milan's final unit, so we say goodbye to Nick on a slightly sour note. There are no retreats this season, so we move right into winter.
Two draw proposals have been put forward. Please vote on them by the winter deadline.


"Ambition is so powerful a passion in the human breast, that however high we reach we are never satisfied." - Niccoló Machiavelli


Players:

Austria: Aidan Slattery <AiSlattery(at)aol.com>
France: Mark Utterbach <MDemagogue(at)gmail.com>
Florence: Joe Babinsack <chaosonejoe(at)yahoo.com>
Milan: Nick Cherrier <zeclient(at)hotmail.com>
Naples: Nathan Deily <ndeily(at)yahoo.com>
Papacy: Kevin Burt <Brutus(at)wbhsi.net>
Turkey: Max Victory <maxatrest(at)yahoo.co.uk>
Venice: Garry Bledsoe <kielmarch(at)hotmail.com>


Draw Proposals:

Venice/Turkey 2-way draw (France/Florence would get survival)
Venice/Turkey/France 3-way draw (Florence would get survival)

A vote requires unanimous approval to pass. One "no" vote or failure to vote will defeat a proposal. If both proposals pass unanimously, the more inclusive draw will succeed (in this case, the 3-way).

Orders:

France:
A Austria Supports A Tyrol - Carinthia (*Cut*)
A Hungary Supports A Austria
A Montferrat Supports A Turin
F Provence Supports A Savoy
A Saluzzo Supports A Turin
F Sardinia Hold
A Savoy Supports A Montferrat
A Turin Supports A Montferrat (*Cut*)
A Tyrol - Carinthia (*Dislodged*)

Florence:
A Arezzo - Florence (*Fails*)
F Corsica Supports F Piombino - Tyrrhenian Sea
A Florence - Bologna (*Bounce*)
F Genoa - Modena (*Fails*)
F Gulf of Lyons - Avignon
F Ligurian Sea Supports F Genoa - Modena
A Lucca Supports A Florence - Bologna
F Piombino - Tyrrhenian Sea (*Fails*)
A Rome Supports A Spoleto
F Siena Supports F Piombino - Tyrrhenian Sea
A Spoleto Supports A Rome

Milan:
A Fornovo Hold

Turkey:
A Aquila Supports A Capua
A Capua Supports A Aquila
F Central Mediterranean Supports F Tyrrhenian Sea
F Dalmatia Supports F Lower Adriatic
F Lower Adriatic Supports F Ancona
F Naples Supports F Tyrrhenian Sea
F Palermo Supports F Tyrrhenian Sea
F Tyrrhenian Sea, no move received
F Western Mediterranean Supports F Tyrrhenian Sea

Venice:
F Ancona Supports F Upper Adriatic
A Carinthia - Tyrol
A Carniola Hold (*No Such Unit*)
A Como - Turin (*Fails*)
A Croatia, no move received
A Ferrara - Bologna (*Bounce*)
A Mantua Supports A Modena
A Milan Supports A Carinthia - Tyrol
A Modena Supports A Parma (*Cut*)
A Parma Supports A Modena
A Pavia Supports A Como - Turin
A Slavonia - Austria (*Fails*)
F Upper Adriatic Supports A Ferrara - Bologna
A Urbino - Perugia


Retreats:

French A Tyrol can retreat to Swiss or OTB.

NOTE: Since there's only one on-board option, I've taken the liberty. Mark, if you're prefer OTB, I need to know before the winter deadline.

Unit Positions: (SCs/Units)

Austria: ELIMINATED 1459

France: (9/9)
Armies - Aus, Hun, Mon, Sav, Slu, Swi, Tur
Fleets - Pro, Sar

Florence: (10/11) - Disband 1
Armies - Are, Flo, Luc, Rom, Spo
Fleets - Avi, Cor, LS, Gen, Pio, Sie

Milan: (0/1) - Disband 1
Armies - For

Naples: ELIMINATED 1456

Papacy: ELIMINATED 1456

Turkey: (9/9)
Armies - Aqu, Cap
Fleets - CM, Dal, LA, Nap, Pal, TS, WM

Venice: (16/13) - Build 3
Armies - Com, Cro, Fer, Man, Mil, Mod, Par, Pav, Per, Sla, Tyr
Fleets - Anc, UA


Deadline:

Winter 1460 is due Wednesday, 20 January at 6pm EST (11pm GMT.)
Any issues or errors, let me know.


Map and RP file are attached for your convenience, enjoy!

Thanks all,
The White Wolf
I'm a Firefly fan and proud! Read my fiction:
http://www.fanfiction.net/u/1369632/

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DC-272 Fall 1460 Adjudication (dc272) chaosonejoe Jan 17, 06:19 pm
Seriously?

I vote no on both. That ends that.

--Joe


Draw Proposals:

Venice/Turkey 2-way draw (France/Florence would get survival)
Venice/Turkey/France 3-way draw (Florence would get survival)


DC-272 - TheWhiteWolf   (Jan 15, 2010, 12:27 pm)
Guys,
I'm going to give you all the benefit of the doubt and assume that Yahoo has chosen to block anything with "272" in the subject line. I have ONE set of orders for a deadline a mere 4 1/2 hours away. If this wasn't a playtest, I'd be tempted to NMR the whole lot of you and let the one person who submitted orders have his way with the board (especially since this is not the first time this has happened).
Seriously, guys - if you've lost interest in playing, let me know so I can find someone who will submit orders on time.

Your Disappointed GM,
The White Wolf

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DC-272 Summer 1460 Adjudication - TheWhiteWolf   (Jan 08, 2010, 7:52 pm)
Guys,
The retreats are in and we're ready to roll.


"One ought never to allow a disorder to take place in order to avoid war, for war is not thereby avoided, but only deferred to your disadvantage." - Niccoló Machiavelli, The Prince. 1537


Players:

Austria: Aidan Slattery <AiSlattery(at)aol.com>
France: Mark Utterbach <MDemagogue(at)gmail.com>
Florence: Joe Babinsack <chaosonejoe(at)yahoo.com>
Milan: Nick Cherrier <zeclient(at)hotmail.com>
Naples: Nathan Deily <ndeily(at)yahoo.com>
Papacy: Kevin Burt <Brutus(at)wbhsi.net>
Turkey: Max Victory <maxatrest(at)yahoo.co.uk>
Venice: Garry Bledsoe <kielmarch(at)hotmail.com>


Orders:

Florence:
A Urbino - Arezzo

Milan:
A Montferrat - Fornovo


Unit Positions: (SCs/Units)

Austria: ELIMINATED 1459

France: (9/9)
Armies - Aus, Hun, Mon, Sav, Slu, Tur, Tyr
Fleets - Pro, Sar

Florence: (11/11)
Armies - Are, Flo, Luc, Rom, Spo
Fleets - Cor, LS, Gen, GOL, Pio, Sie

Milan: (1/1)
Armies - For

Naples: ELIMINATED 1456

Papacy: ELIMINATED 1456

Turkey: (9/9)
Armies - Aqu, Cap
Fleets - CM, Dal, LA, Nap, Pal, TS, WM

Venice: (14/13)
Armies - Com, Cri, Cro, Fer, Man, Mil, Mod, Par, Pav, Sla, Urb
Fleets - Anc, UA


Deadline:

Fall 1460 is due Friday, 15 January at 6pm EST (11pm GMT.)
Any issues or errors, let me know.


Map and RP file are attached for your convenience, enjoy!

Thanks all,
The White Wolf
I'm a Firefly fan and proud! Read my fiction:
http://www.fanfiction.net/u/1369632/

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DC-272 Spring 1460 Adjudication - TheWhiteWolf   (Jan 07, 2010, 2:31 pm)
Guys,
Thanks for being patient - the time ran away with me last night.


"I have always felt for doing without any hesitation the things that I believe will bring benefit common to everybody...." - Niccoló Machiavelli


Players:

Austria: Aidan Slattery <AiSlattery(at)aol.com>
France: Mark Utterbach <MDemagogue(at)gmail.com>
Florence: Joe Babinsack <chaosonejoe(at)yahoo.com>
Milan: Nick Cherrier <zeclient(at)hotmail.com>
Naples: Nathan Deily <ndeily(at)yahoo.com>
Papacy: Kevin Burt <Brutus(at)wbhsi.net>
Turkey: Max Victory <maxatrest(at)yahoo.co.uk>
Venice: Garry Bledsoe <kielmarch(at)hotmail.com>


Orders:

France:
A Austria Supports A Slavonia - Hungary
F Provence - Gulf of Lyons (*Fails*)
A Saluzzo Supports A Swiss - Turin
F Sardinia Hold
A Savoy Supports A Turin - Montferrat
A Slavonia - Hungary
A Swiss - Turin
A Turin - Montferrat
A Tyrol - Como (*Fails*)

Florence:
F Corsica Supports F Ligurian Sea - Gulf of Lyons
A Florence - Bologna (*Bounce*)
F Genoa Supports A Lucca - Modena (*Void*)
F Ligurian Sea - Gulf of Lyons
A Lucca Supports A Florence - Bologna
F Piombino - Tyrrhenian Sea (*Fails*)
F Pisa - Ligurian Sea
A Rome Supports A Spoleto
F Siena Supports F Piombino - Tyrrhenian Sea
A Spoleto Supports A Urbino - Ancona
A Urbino - Ancona (*Dislodged*)

Milan:
A Montferrat Hold (*Dislodged*)

Turkey:
A Aquila Supports A Capua
A Capua Supports A Aquila
F Central Mediterranean Supports F Tyrrhenian Sea
F Dalmatia Supports F Lower Adriatic
F Lower Adriatic Supports F Ancona
F Naples Supports F Tyrrhenian Sea
F Palermo Supports F Tyrrhenian Sea
F Tyrrhenian Sea Hold
F Western Mediterranean Supports F Tyrrhenian Sea

Venice:
F Ancona Supports A Bologna - Urbino
A Bergamo - Milan
A Bologna - Urbino
A Carniola - Slavonia
A Cremona - Parma
A Croatia Supports A Carniola - Slavonia
A Ferrara - Bologna (*Bounce*)
A Fornovo - Modena
A Hungary Supports A Carniola - Slavonia (*Disbanded*)
A Mantua Supports A Ferrara - Bologna
A Milan - Como
A Pavia Supports A Milan - Como
A Trent - Carinthia
F Upper Adriatic Supports A Bologna - Urbino


Retreats:

Venetian A Hungary has no retreats, disbanded.
Milanese A Montferrat can retreat to Fornovo or OTB.
Florentine A Urbino can retreat to Arezzo, Perugia or OTB.


Unit Positions: (SCs/Units)

Austria: ELIMINATED 1459

France: (9/9)
Armies - Aus, Hun, Mon, Sav, Slu, Tur, Tyr
Fleets - Pro, Sar

Florence: (11/11)
Armies - Flo, Luc, Rom, Spo, Urb (pending retreat)
Fleets - Cor, LS, Gen, GOL, Pio, Sie

Milan: (1/1)
Armies - Mon (pending retreat)

Naples: ELIMINATED 1456

Papacy: ELIMINATED 1456

Turkey: (9/9)
Armies - Aqu, Cap
Fleets - CM, Dal, LA, Nap, Pal, TS, WM

Venice: (14/13)
Armies - Com, Cri, Cro, Fer, Man, Mil, Mod, Par, Pav, Sla, Urb
Fleets - Anc, UA


Deadline:

Summer 1460 is due ((tomorrow)) Friday, 8 January at 6pm EST (11pm GMT.)
Any issues or errors, let me know.


Map and RP file are attached for your convenience, enjoy!

Thanks all,
The White Wolf
I'm a Firefly fan and proud! Read my fiction:
http://www.fanfiction.net/u/1369632/

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DC-272 Adjudication Tomorrow - TheWhiteWolf   (Jan 06, 2010, 10:01 pm)
Guys,
Sorry I'm not adjudicating tonight - I let the time get away from me, and now it's far too late to do anything but pass out. I'll send it out as soon as I get home from work tomorrow.

Wolf

I'm a Firefly fan and proud! Read my fiction:
http://www.fanfiction.net/u/1369632/

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DC-272 Winter 1459 Adjudication - TheWhiteWolf   (Dec 23, 2009, 12:57 pm)
Guys,
Sorry for the delay. Some jerk mall Santa got an average 10 bucks a minute from me yesterday, after waiting over 2 1/2 hours to see him. Needless to say I'm disgruntled by modern-day Christmas.


"Irresolute republics never take a course except by force; for their weakness never allows them to resolve upon anything where there is a doubt; and if that doubt is not overcome by some force, they remain forever in a state of suspense." - Niccoló Machiavelli, The Discourses. 1517


Players:

Austria: Aidan Slattery <AiSlattery(at)aol.com>
France: Mark Utterbach <MDemagogue(at)gmail.com>
Florence: Joe Babinsack <chaosonejoe(at)yahoo.com>
Milan: Nick Cherrier <zeclient(at)hotmail.com>
Naples: Nathan Deily <ndeily(at)yahoo.com>
Papacy: Kevin Burt <Brutus(at)wbhsi.net>
Turkey: Max Victory <maxatrest(at)yahoo.co.uk>
Venice: Garry Bledsoe <kielmarch(at)hotmail.com>


Orders:

France:
Build A Austria
Build A Swiss

Milan:
Remove A Como

Venice:
Build A Carniola
Build A Croatia
Build A Trent


Unit Positions: (SCs/Units)

Austria: ELIMINATED 1459

France: (9/9)
Armies - Aus, Sav, Sla, Slu, Swi, Tur, Tyr
Fleets - Pro, Sar

Florence: (11/11)
Armies - Flo, Luc, Rom, Spo, Urb
Fleets - Cor, LS, Gen, Pio, Psa, Sie

Milan: (1/1)
Armies - Mon

Naples: ELIMINATED 1456

Papacy: ELIMINATED 1456

Turkey: (9/9)
Armies - Aqu, Cap
Fleets - CM, Dal, LA, Nap, Pal, TS, WM

Venice: (14/14)
Armies - Ber, Bol, Cre, Crn, Cro, Fer, For, Hun, Man, Mil, Pav, Trn
Fleets - Anc, UA


Deadline:

Spring 1460 is due Wednesday, 6 January at 6pm EST (11pm GMT,) due to a player absence and the holiday. Happy everything!
Any issues or errors, let me know.


Map and RP file are attached for your convenience, enjoy!

Thanks all,
The White Wolf
I'm a Firefly fan and proud! Read my fiction:
http://www.fanfiction.net/u/1369632/

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DC-272 Fall 1459 Adjudication - TheWhiteWolf   (Dec 20, 2009, 12:29 pm)
Guys,
Nasty storm here in northern Virginia. Things have been crazy all weekend. Sorry I'm putting this out late. I only received two votes on the draw proposal, so it has failed due to abstinence.
Lots of action this round, as Austria's last center is officially lost, France and Venice gain position on Milan (with a Florentine attack of opportunity thrown in), Venice and Florence go head to head, and Turkey holds his ground against a continued Florentine assault.


"Any manifest error on the part of an enemy should make us suspect some strategem." - Niccoló Machiavelli, The Discourses. 1517


Players:

Austria: Aidan Slattery <AiSlattery(at)aol.com>
France: Mark Utterbach <MDemagogue(at)gmail.com>
Florence: Joe Babinsack <chaosonejoe(at)yahoo.com>
Milan: Nick Cherrier <zeclient(at)hotmail.com>
Naples: Nathan Deily <ndeily(at)yahoo.com>
Papacy: Kevin Burt <Brutus(at)wbhsi.net>
Turkey: Max Victory <maxatrest(at)yahoo.co.uk>
Venice: Garry Bledsoe <kielmarch(at)hotmail.com>


Orders:

France:
A Austria - Slavonia
A Avignon - Turin
F Corsica Hold (*No Such Unit*)
F Provence Supports A Turin - Savoy
A Saluzzo Supports A Turin - Savoy
F Sardinia, no move received (*Ordered to Hold*)
A Turin - Savoy
A Tyrol Supports A Avignon - Turin (*Cut*)

Florence:
F Corsica Supports F Piombino - Tyrrhenian Sea
A Florence Supports A Lucca - Bologna
F Ligurian Sea Supports F Modena - Genoa
A Lucca - Bologna (*Fails*)
F Modena - Genoa
F Piombino - Tyrrhenian Sea (*Fails*)
F Pisa Supports F Ligurian Sea
A Rome Supports A Spoleto
F Siena Supports F Pisa - Tyrrhenian Sea (*Void*)
A Spoleto Supports A Urbino - Ancona
A Urbino - Ancona (*Fails*)

Milan:
A Como - Tyrol (*Fails*)
A Genoa Supports A Savoy (*Disbanded*)
A Montferrat Supports A Savoy
A Savoy Supports A Montferrat (*Disbanded*)

Turkey:
A Aquila Supports A Capua
A Capua Supports A Aquila
F Central Mediterranean Supports F Tyrrhenian Sea
F Dalmatia Supports F Lower Adriatic
F Lower Adriatic Supports F Ancona
F Naples Supports F Tyrrhenian Sea
F Palermo Supports F Tyrrhenian Sea
F Tyrrhenian Sea, no move received
F Western Mediterranean Supports F Tyrrhenian Sea

Venice:
F Ancona Hold
A Bergamo - Cremona
A Bologna Hold
A Ferrara Supports A Bologna
A Hungary, no move received
A Mantua Supports A Bologna
A Milan Supports A Pavia
A Parma - Fornovo
A Pavia Supports A Parma - Fornovo
A Trent - Bergamo
F Upper Adriatic Supports F Ancona


Retreats:

Milanese A Genoa has no retreats, disbanded.
Milanese A Savoy has no retreats, disbanded.


Unit Positions: (SCs/Units)

Austria: ELIMINATED 1459

France: (9/7) - Build 2
Armies - Sav, Sla, Slu, Tur, Tyr
Fleets - Pro, Sar

Florence: (11/11)
Armies - Flo, Luc, Rom, Spo, Urb
Fleets - Cor, LS, Gen, Pio, Psa, Sie

Milan: (1/2) - Disband 1
Armies - Com, Mon

Naples: ELIMINATED 1456

Papacy: ELIMINATED 1456

Turkey: (9/9)
Armies - Aqu, Cap
Fleets - CM, Dal, LA, Nap, Pal, TS, WM

Venice: (14/11) - Build 3
Armies - Ber, Bol, Cre, Fer, For, Hun, Man, Mil, Pav
Fleets - Anc, UA


Deadline:

Winter 1459 is due Tuesday, 22 December at 6pm EST (11pm GMT.) I plan to give us a generous deadline for spring, due to the holiday, so please get the builds and disbands in on time.
Any issues or errors, let me know.


Map and RP file are attached for your convenience, enjoy! Please let me know if the map is hard to read. I tried a slightly different method of saving it to GIF, so I'm hopeful.

Thanks all,
The White Wolf
I'm a Firefly fan and proud! Read my fiction:
http://www.fanfiction.net/u/1369632/

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DC-272 Deadline Imminent - TheWhiteWolf   (Dec 16, 2009, 8:08 pm)
Guys,
This is getting really old. The deadline for fall is in less than 21 hours, and I have ONE set of orders submitted. I know you guys are all more reliable and timely than this. Is the negotiation really that intense, or is this variant just that dull?
I'm tempted to NMR everyone who doesn't get their orders in on time (which would probably be devastating to the play test), but I'm going to push the deadline back to Friday, 18 December to give you all a shot to submit. Please don't miss this one.

The White Wolf

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http://www.fanfiction.net/u/1369632/

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DC-272 Summer 1459 Adjudication - TheWhiteWolf   (Dec 11, 2009, 2:43 pm)
Guys,
I was waiting on a retreat last night, and then it got late so I went to bed. Here's the retreat turn, with both orders handed in. Remember to let me know if there's anything wrong with the map (please double check everything on your end, first), and to vote on the draw proposal!


"The actions of citizens should be watched, for often such as seem virtuous conceal the beginnings of tyranny." - Niccoló Machiavelli, The Discourses. 1517


Players:

Austria: Aidan Slattery <AiSlattery(at)aol.com>
France: Mark Utterbach <MDemagogue(at)gmail.com>
Florence: Joe Babinsack <chaosonejoe(at)yahoo.com>
Milan: Nick Cherrier <zeclient(at)hotmail.com>
Naples: Nathan Deily <ndeily(at)yahoo.com>
Papacy: Kevin Burt <Brutus(at)wbhsi.net>
Turkey: Max Victory <maxatrest(at)yahoo.co.uk>
Venice: Garry Bledsoe <kielmarch(at)hotmail.com>


Draw Proposal:

France, Florence, Turkey, Venice (4-way). This draw would exclude Milan (and Austria, though he's due to be eliminated anyway.) In order to succeed, the vote must be unanimous. Vote by the fall deadline (not yet set, due to retreat orders due.)


Orders:

Florence:
A Bologna - Florence

Milan:
A Pavia - Como


Unit Positions: (SCs/Units)

Austria: (1/0)

France: (8/7)
Armies - Aus, Avi, Slu, Tur, Tyr
Fleets - Pro, Sar

Florence: (11/11)
Armies - Flo, Luc, Rom, Spo, Urb
Fleets - Cor, LS, Mod, Pio, Psa, Sie

Milan: (4/4)
Armies - Com, Gen, Mon, Sav

Naples: ELIMINATED

Papacy: ELIMINATED

Turkey: (9/9)
Armies - Aqu, Cap
Fleets - CM, Dal, LA, Nap, Pal, TS, WM

Venice: (11/11)
Armies - Ber, Bol, Fer, Hun, Man, Mil, Par, Pav, Trn
Fleets - Anc, UA


Deadline:

Fall 1459 is due Thursday, 17 December at 6pm EST (11pm GMT.)
Any issues or errors, let me know.


Map and RP file are attached for your convenience, enjoy! Please let me know if the map is hard to read. If so, I'll see what I can do about finding a different imaging program to create it with.

Thanks all,
The White Wolf
I'm a Firefly fan and proud! Read my fiction:
http://www.fanfiction.net/u/1369632/

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