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dc285: Persian EOG - offdisc   (May 24, 2010, 4:51 pm)
(Many apologies for the bad subject in last message!)
On Mon, May 24, 2010 at 3:51 PM, Mike Hoffman wrote:
Persian EOG:

Many apologies for my tardiness in writing this EOG, especially when
you consider how little there really is to say.

The game started out with a lot of diplomacy flying around, but the
only neighbor really talking to me was Adam. An Egyptian / Persian
alliance seemed perfect way to start, nice and safe.  Adam turned out
to be a great communicator and strategizer.

Sam (Greece) and I talked a (very) little bit, and by Spring 299, it
was clear that I'd be pushing full steam ahead against him.  Gerald
(Carthage) was working up in Iberia and Adam and I careful crafted a
plan to split the Med.

Throughout the game, different partners were proposed to add to the EP
alliance, starting with Carthage, possibly Greece, ending with Rome.
But besides Carthage at the start, I felt EP had the game pretty well
in-hand.  Maybe the game would end with a 2-way draw, or maybe we'd
fight it out once all others were gone.

At times, Adam and I backed ourselves into near-breakdown, but mostly
it was due to a misinterpretation of one or the other's thoughts.
Those usually lasted for one season at most, more often than not, we
worked it out by being slightly less aggressive.  But we also were
both careful to keep enough units near our homes as detente against
major stabs!

In the end, when the EP Draw was proposed, we had the choice of end it
here, or drag the game on to a possibly "High Noon" shootout.  Too
many variables, and truthfully not enough free time, made my decision
easy: take the points and run.

Great quick game all!  Lots of fun!

Michael

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dc285: The preparation and serving of Carthage - offdisc   (May 24, 2010, 4:51 pm)
Persian EOG:
Many apologies for my tardiness in writing this EOG, especially when
you consider how little there really is to say.
The game started out with a lot of diplomacy flying around, but the
only neighbor really talking to me was Adam. An Egyptian / Persian
alliance seemed perfect way to start, nice and safe. Adam turned out
to be a great communicator and strategizer.
Sam (Greece) and I talked a (very) little bit, and by Spring 299, it
was clear that I'd be pushing full steam ahead against him. Gerald
(Carthage) was working up in Iberia and Adam and I careful crafted a
plan to split the Med.
Throughout the game, different partners were proposed to add to the EP
alliance, starting with Carthage, possibly Greece, ending with Rome.
But besides Carthage at the start, I felt EP had the game pretty well
in-hand. Maybe the game would end with a 2-way draw, or maybe we'd
fight it out once all others were gone.
At times, Adam and I backed ourselves into near-breakdown, but mostly
it was due to a misinterpretation of one or the other's thoughts.
Those usually lasted for one season at most, more often than not, we
worked it out by being slightly less aggressive. But we also were
both careful to keep enough units near our homes as detente against
major stabs!
In the end, when the EP Draw was proposed, we had the choice of end it
here, or drag the game on to a possibly "High Noon" shootout. Too
many variables, and truthfully not enough free time, made my decision
easy: take the points and run.
Great quick game all! Lots of fun!
Michael

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DC 285: Egyptian EoG - AceRimmer   (Apr 29, 2010, 11:05 am)
"When, in the Course of Ancient human events, it becomes necessary for four peoples (one being eradicated) to dissolve the political bands which have separated them from each other..."

This has to be one of the best end-game announcements I have ever read.  Positively brilliant, Maslow.

Five short game years.  That was all.  Short game.  Should be a short EoG, right?  Uh, yeah...  Short is not my middle name.
     I will say, though, that this was a stunningly simple and straight-forward game.  When I think back on the high points and low points, there are only three decisions and one overriding theme that stand out to me.  This is in sharp contrast to other games I have played where I have forgotten the middle-game before the end-game has even resolved, on account of all the twists and turns.  Well, this one wasn't twists and turns.  If Diplomacy were pasta, then great games would be fusilli, whereas DC 285 was a flat lasagna noodle.
     For full disclosure, this was my first game of Ancient Med; indeed, that's why I signed up for it: to see how it plays.  I feel I was partly successful in my goal, but I'm sure my conceptions are doubtless in some degree misconceived.  For instance, (based more on my browsing of past games than of this game), I'd say the strongest position is Carthage, followed by Persia, Greece, Rome, and Egypt.  [After this game is entered, the DC stats for seven games will suggest it's actually: PCREG].  But the subtleties of position are not so large that player personalities won't dominate them.
     One feature of note in Ancient Med is the abundance of neutral centers in Year 1.  All of us gained three builds the first year, and it seems unprofitable for anybody to start a war in the first year.  Of course, it does matter *how* those neutrals get divvied.
     At first, I was worried about the nasty alliances.  CPR was my main fright, and GP bothered me.  But, with a clarity that I rarely get in Dip games, it became apparent early that none of these alliances were afoot, because nobody was talking to anybody else... except for me.  So, the early pre-war alliances that _I_ could discern were: CE nonaggression, ER nonaggression, EG v. P, and EP v. G.  Additionally, there was a very open CR (so, it's not true that nobody was talking to anybody).
     All in all, I was surprised by the degree of non-communication -- especially because I have always understood communication to be the *essential* element in Diplomacy.  The winner is often the player who talks the most.  But Carthage and Persia seemed not to be talking about me behind my back.  Nor did I detect evidence of significant CG, PR, GP, or GR conversations.  (To be fair, Mike was very pre-occupied with other matters early in the game, so he couldn't write as much; and Jerry wrote good press).
     I had preconceived that a three-way alliance would be necessary in this game.  It turned out that two-way was sufficient.  In fact, even though the untalkativeness of this crew was manifest, my Dip instincts kept directing me contrarily.  So, I kept assuming that *at some point* Carthage, Greece, and/or Rome were going to band together to thwart the blatant EP juggernaut.  Instead, there was just continued bickering on both the CR and GR fronts (think Neapolis and Dalmatia) -- while Mike and I gobbled up free centers.
     So... the communication dynamic tilted heavily in my favor.  I got to pick my friends and stab the others.  Plus, (and I'm guessing this is rare), all three of my neighbors treated me to a the 'contested' neutral between us (Leptis from Jerry, Crete from Sam, and Jerusalem from Mike).
     I'm sorry to harp so heavily on communication, but it's really really important in Diplomacy.  What's surprising is that all of us are experienced players and GMs, so I expected all of us to recognize the value of writing often (in fact, I was pretty excited when I saw the slate of players... I was expecting fireworks).  When there's not much communication, the game suffers for it, which is why DC 285 was, to be honest, pretty boring (don't let the length of my EoG fool you).  Okay, back to the game...
     Early indicators were that Jerry and Mike would be good allies to me.  They wrote often, discussed tactics and strategy, and showed good game intelligence. Mark was not really present (though I have played against Mark a few times and knew in advance that he is: (a) generally overcommitted and doesn't write as much as he ought to; (b) makes for a reliable ally; and (c) makes clever though not necessarily predictable orders).
     Sam befuddled me -- he barely wrote to me and seemed to write to other players even less.  I don't know why he enlisted for this game, and perhaps he decided after the fact that he didn't really have available energy for it.  He moved like an honest ally, but his short emails left much to my imagination. When I think about it, considering the relative threats to Egypt from Greece and Persia, I would've preferred to have a Greek ally.  But the communication dynamic had put a giant red target on Sam's back, and I supported Mike into Miletus without contrition.
     For a couple of years, I contemplated an unconventional CEP alliance.  It seemed almost... well... just.  I felt like three players had shown up to play.  Maybe a quick 3-way draw was the fairest result.  But three considerations turned my mind otherwise.  First: I couldn't really reconcile myself to such a dull unambitious strategy (though I might have except for the next two items).
     Second: okay... Mark... ARMY Rome in the first year?!?  I know you were signaling your friendly and unambiguous intentions to your Carthaginian ally, and it is a great strategy if it works, but you completely ceded the entire Western Med to Jerry if he so chose to take it.  Which he did.  Until Jerry stabbed, I did somewhat fear a strong CR alliance, but I also had Jerry boldly reassuring me that he was entirely committed to the CE alliance... I was relieved and not entirely surprised when he couldn't pass up the great opportunity to sweep toward victory and a solid corner position in the Western Med.  [Note: this was a curious impact of Sam's target-on-the-back status.  With EPR all gang-jumping Greece, the big remaining question mark was whether Jerry would attack Mark or myself.]
     Three: In Fall of year 2, Jerry convoyed A Thapsus-Punic-Sardinia.  This is the move that determined me to attack Jerry (well, this move, and a whole lot of egging on from Mike).  Much the way Rome had left his western flank open to Carthage, Carthage now left his eastern flank open to Egypt.  Plus, it was pretty clear that this was a one-time opportunity -- if I didn't stab Jerry now, I'd never get another chance. So, I was free to launch my units into Jerry's backside, and found resounding success thanks especially to: (1) beneficial guesses in Fall of Year 3, (2) continued CR friction, and (3) the high improbability of GP declaring a truce and attacking my backside.
     So, there you have it.  By the end of Year 3, the game was pretty much wrapped up.  The only major questions remaining were: would Mike or I stab the other?   And if not, would Rome be able to wheedle a part in a three-way draw?
     So, all that's left to discuss is Persia.  Mike was an excellent ally all game long (as was Jerry up until the moment when I decided I could take all his home centers).  Mike ceded Jerusalem (with an agreement to swap it if we ever needed to balance centers).  He didn't fret about his unprotected Cyprus.  He consistently prioritized strategic goals above tactical considerations, and we coordinated our dismantling of Greece with a minimum of friction (though I think it was in Spring of Year 4 when we butted heads about his attack on Macedonia instead of dislodging my Aegean fleet... but having worked through that, we were even stronger than before).  I thought we did a good job of respecting each other's interests.  He recognized that my extended position meant I needed a little more force.  I recognized that his corner position necessitated a free outlet for expansion around Asia Minor.  And though his early gains seemed slow relative to
mine, he was well rewarded (and was soon to be rewarded even more had the game continued) by his explosive expansion once Greece finally fell.
     In this last season, Mike and I both claimed to each other to have the inside track on the solo.  I am curious.  I figured I could bottle up his fleets along the Ionian-Sparta-Messenian-Crete-Egyptian front while slowly establishing myself in the Western Med (Sicilia, Neapolis, Sardinia, Balearas, maybe Roma).  His sudden successes in Europe (he was moving to Gaul in the Spring) meant that I would lose out in France (whereas I was kind of bottled up fleetwise in the West).  Plus, Jerusalem would probably eventually fall to him (but I might gain Cyprus?).  It would've been close and probably would've devolved to Mark's and/or Jerry's decisions.  And in the end, I am satisfied to claim an allied victory rather than go for my first club solo.
The only lingering question I have is about that misorder. Now that the game is over, I figure I can be confident of an honest answer: was F Punic Sea - Thaesus a mistake or an intentional misorder? I should note that I always operated under the assumption that the misorder was intentional on Mark's part. I disagreed then (and now) with the GM's ruling, but I will say that I became extra careful in my orders -- I copied and pasted my orders directly out of RP. It's probably a good habit to get into.

I do look forward to reading other EoGs. Especially from Mike, Jerry, Mark, and Sam. Those should be the good ones.

Adam



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DC 285 Draw Results - offdisc   (Apr 28, 2010, 6:34 pm)
Longer EOG statement to come, but I wanted to take this opportunity to
say Thank You to Alex for hosting this game, and "YEAH!!!!!" Smile
Oh, and Alex, about the maps --- thank you thank you thank you for
always including them with the stage mails. My work tends to block
the website, so having them in the email saved me so much time and
aggravation!
Mike
---------
"Sit Long, Talk Much, Laugh Often" -- anon
"Shared Pain is lessened, Shared Joy is increased" --- Spider Robinson


On Wed, Apr 28, 2010 at 1:42 PM, Alex Maslow wrote:
Gentlemen,

When, in the Course of Ancient human events, it becomes necessary for four
peoples (one being eradicated) to dissolve the political bands which
have seperated them from each other, and to assume (among the powers of the
earth) a decent respect of the opinions of mankind, it is required that they
should declare the causes which impel them to the binding.

We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all Powers are created equal,
that they are endowed by their GM with certain unalienable Rights, that
among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Supply Depots.  Blah blah
blah, we hereby proclaim the establishment of the Egyptian/Persian utopia,
wherein we will all worship cats and very fancy rugs.  Hooray!


Yep, you guessed it.  We have a draw!  Congratulations to Mike and Adam on
the results.  I'll submit them to DC and resolve this game.  My apologies
for never being able to post maps on the website, I know that was an
inconvenience.  If you have any other criticisms or advice on how to improve
my GMing, now is the time to say so - I'm always looking to improve my
playing-God abilities.

EOG statements are welcome.

Thanks for playing, and take care!
-Maslow

--
"It's like in the great stories, Mr. Frodo. The ones that really mattered.
Full of darkness and danger they were. and sometimes you didn't want to know
the end because how could the end be happy? How could the world go back to
the way it was when so much bad had happened? But in the end, it's only a
passing thing. The shadow, even the darkness must pass. A new day will come.
And when the sun shines it will shine out the clearer. Those were the
stories that stayed with you - That meant something. Even if you were too
small to understand why. But I think, Mr. Frodo, I do understand. I know
now. Folk in those stories had lots of chances of turning back only they
didn't. They kept going because they were holding onto something."
"What are we holding onto, Sam?"
"That there's some good in this world, Mr. Frodo. And it's worth fighting
for."

.

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DC 285 Draw Results - Blueraider0   (Apr 28, 2010, 2:42 pm)
Gentlemen,


When, in the Course of Ancient human events, it becomes necessary for four peoples (one being eradicated) to dissolve the political bands which have seperated them from each other, and to assume (among the powers of the earth) a decent respect of the opinions of mankind, it is required that they should declare the causes which impel them to the binding.
We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all Powers are created equal, that they are endowed by their GM with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Supply Depots.  Blah blah blah, we hereby proclaim the establishment of the Egyptian/Persian utopia, wherein we will all worship cats and very fancy rugs.  Hooray!
 
Yep, you guessed it.  We have a draw!  Congratulations to Mike and Adam on the results.  I'll submit them to DC and resolve this game.  My apologies for never being able to post maps on the website, I know that was an inconvenience.  If you have any other criticisms or advice on how to improve my GMing, now is the time to say so - I'm always looking to improve my playing-God abilities.
 
EOG statements are welcome.
 
Thanks for playing, and take care!
-Maslow

--
"It's like in the great stories, Mr. Frodo. The ones that really mattered. Full of darkness and danger they were. and sometimes you didn't want to know the end because how could the end be happy? How could the world go back to the way it was when so much bad had happened? But in the end, it's only a passing thing. The shadow, even the darkness must pass. A new day will come. And when the sun shines it will shine out the clearer. Those were the stories that stayed with you - That meant something. Even if you were too small to understand why. But I think, Mr. Frodo, I do understand. I know now. Folk in those stories had lots of chances of turning back only they didn't. They kept going because they were holding onto something."

"What are we holding onto, Sam?"
"That there's some good in this world, Mr. Frodo. And it's worth fighting for."

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DC 285 Draw Results (dc285) offdisc Apr 28, 06:34 pm
Longer EOG statement to come, but I wanted to take this opportunity to
say Thank You to Alex for hosting this game, and "YEAH!!!!!" Smile
Oh, and Alex, about the maps --- thank you thank you thank you for
always including them with the stage mails. My work tends to block
the website, so having them in the email saved me so much time and
aggravation!
Mike
---------
"Sit Long, Talk Much, Laugh Often" -- anon
"Shared Pain is lessened, Shared Joy is increased" --- Spider Robinson


On Wed, Apr 28, 2010 at 1:42 PM, Alex Maslow wrote:
Gentlemen,

When, in the Course of Ancient human events, it becomes necessary for four
peoples (one being eradicated) to dissolve the political bands which
have seperated them from each other, and to assume (among the powers of the
earth) a decent respect of the opinions of mankind, it is required that they
should declare the causes which impel them to the binding.

We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all Powers are created equal,
that they are endowed by their GM with certain unalienable Rights, that
among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Supply Depots.  Blah blah
blah, we hereby proclaim the establishment of the Egyptian/Persian utopia,
wherein we will all worship cats and very fancy rugs.  Hooray!


Yep, you guessed it.  We have a draw!  Congratulations to Mike and Adam on
the results.  I'll submit them to DC and resolve this game.  My apologies
for never being able to post maps on the website, I know that was an
inconvenience.  If you have any other criticisms or advice on how to improve
my GMing, now is the time to say so - I'm always looking to improve my
playing-God abilities.

EOG statements are welcome.

Thanks for playing, and take care!
-Maslow

--
"It's like in the great stories, Mr. Frodo. The ones that really mattered.
Full of darkness and danger they were. and sometimes you didn't want to know
the end because how could the end be happy? How could the world go back to
the way it was when so much bad had happened? But in the end, it's only a
passing thing. The shadow, even the darkness must pass. A new day will come.
And when the sun shines it will shine out the clearer. Those were the
stories that stayed with you - That meant something. Even if you were too
small to understand why. But I think, Mr. Frodo, I do understand. I know
now. Folk in those stories had lots of chances of turning back only they
didn't. They kept going because they were holding onto something."
"What are we holding onto, Sam?"
"That there's some good in this world, Mr. Frodo. And it's worth fighting
for."

.
DC 285: Draw Proposal & deadline warning - Blueraider0   (Apr 27, 2010, 1:27 pm)
We have a proposal on the table to call a draw in favor of Egypt and Persia.  Votes can be public or private.  Must be unanimous.
 
-Maslow
 
Also, 24 hour deadline warning

--
"It's like in the great stories, Mr. Frodo. The ones that really mattered. Full of darkness and danger they were. and sometimes you didn't want to know the end because how could the end be happy? How could the world go back to the way it was when so much bad had happened? But in the end, it's only a passing thing. The shadow, even the darkness must pass. A new day will come. And when the sun shines it will shine out the clearer. Those were the stories that stayed with you - That meant something. Even if you were too small to understand why. But I think, Mr. Frodo, I do understand. I know now. Folk in those stories had lots of chances of turning back only they didn't. They kept going because they were holding onto something."

"What are we holding onto, Sam?"
"That there's some good in this world, Mr. Frodo. And it's worth fighting for."

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DC 285 Winter 295 results - AceRimmer   (Apr 27, 2010, 10:34 am)
Alex,
I would like to propose a two-way EP draw to be voted upon with the upcoming Spring orders (due tomorrow). And since the proposer of a draw must needs vote on it: I vote yes.
Adam


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DC 285 Winter 295 results - Blueraider0   (Apr 21, 2010, 8:19 pm)
Whoops.  Thanks!  Deadline is Wed 4/28.  And at 5 PM EST.  Forgot that part, too.


On Wed, Apr 21, 2010 at 9:09 PM, Gerald Todd <sgttodd(at)mainecav.org> wrote:

The 27th is a Tuesday.



Alex Maslow wrote:

Deadline is Wed 4/27.




--
"It's like in the great stories, Mr. Frodo. The ones that really mattered. Full of darkness and danger they were. and sometimes you didn't want to know the end because how could the end be happy? How could the world go back to the way it was when so much bad had happened? But in the end, it's only a passing thing. The shadow, even the darkness must pass. A new day will come. And when the sun shines it will shine out the clearer. Those were the stories that stayed with you - That meant something. Even if you were too small to understand why. But I think, Mr. Frodo, I do understand. I know now. Folk in those stories had lots of chances of turning back only they didn't. They kept going because they were holding onto something."

"What are we holding onto, Sam?"
"That there's some good in this world, Mr. Frodo. And it's worth fighting for."

[Reply]

DC 285 Winter 295 results - sgttodd   (Apr 21, 2010, 8:09 pm)
The 27th is a Tuesday.
Alex Maslow wrote:
Deadline is Wed 4/27.
.

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DC 285 Winter 295 results - Blueraider0   (Apr 21, 2010, 8:02 pm)
Results are in, adjudication processed, and now submitted for your approval!
 
Rome:
Build A Ravenna
Persia:
Build F Antioch
Build A Sidon
Greece:
Remove F Ionian Sea
Egypt:
Build F Alexandria
 
Sam is now officially eliminated.  As I said before, thanks for playing it out - much appreciated!  I'll remove you from the list unless I hear otherwise.
 
Deadline is Wed 4/27.

Take care!
-Maslow
 

--
"It's like in the great stories, Mr. Frodo. The ones that really mattered. Full of darkness and danger they were. and sometimes you didn't want to know the end because how could the end be happy? How could the world go back to the way it was when so much bad had happened? But in the end, it's only a passing thing. The shadow, even the darkness must pass. A new day will come. And when the sun shines it will shine out the clearer. Those were the stories that stayed with you - That meant something. Even if you were too small to understand why. But I think, Mr. Frodo, I do understand. I know now. Folk in those stories had lots of chances of turning back only they didn't. They kept going because they were holding onto something."

"What are we holding onto, Sam?"
"That there's some good in this world, Mr. Frodo. And it's worth fighting for."

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DC 285 Winter 295 results (dc285) sgttodd Apr 21, 08:09 pm
The 27th is a Tuesday.
Alex Maslow wrote:
Deadline is Wed 4/27.
.
DC 285 Winter 295 results (dc285) Blueraider0 Apr 21, 08:19 pm
Whoops.  Thanks!  Deadline is Wed 4/28.  And at 5 PM EST.  Forgot that part, too.


On Wed, Apr 21, 2010 at 9:09 PM, Gerald Todd <sgttodd(at)mainecav.org> wrote:

The 27th is a Tuesday.



Alex Maslow wrote:

Deadline is Wed 4/27.




--
"It's like in the great stories, Mr. Frodo. The ones that really mattered. Full of darkness and danger they were. and sometimes you didn't want to know the end because how could the end be happy? How could the world go back to the way it was when so much bad had happened? But in the end, it's only a passing thing. The shadow, even the darkness must pass. A new day will come. And when the sun shines it will shine out the clearer. Those were the stories that stayed with you - That meant something. Even if you were too small to understand why. But I think, Mr. Frodo, I do understand. I know now. Folk in those stories had lots of chances of turning back only they didn't. They kept going because they were holding onto something."

"What are we holding onto, Sam?"
"That there's some good in this world, Mr. Frodo. And it's worth fighting for."
DC 285 Winter 295 results (dc285) AceRimmer Apr 27, 10:34 am
Alex,
I would like to propose a two-way EP draw to be voted upon with the upcoming Spring orders (due tomorrow). And since the proposer of a draw must needs vote on it: I vote yes.
Adam


.
DC 285: Fall 296 BC results - MDemagogue   (Apr 16, 2010, 10:20 pm)
I'm confused by the map.  In spring, there was a persian army unit present in chersoneus and dacia, how is a persian army in rhaetia?

On Fri, Apr 16, 2010 at 9:59 PM, Alex Maslow <blueraider0(at)gmail.com> wrote:

Interesting turn.  Sadly, 1 NMR.  We couldn't have a perfect record forever, folks.  Sam I've looked and looked but cannot find any orders from you.  If you think you've been wronged, forward me your orders along with my reciept.  But I've checked and I've checked and cannot find anything.  You have until th nt deadline to correct me.

 
As it stands, Sam has been defeated.  Thanks for hanging in there - always appreciated to have someone wiling to play to the bitter end.  I'll take you off the mailing list for this game unless you alert me otherwise.

 
In a strange turn of events, Roma is still under Carthagian control.  Greece will lose the fleet in Ionan, but no one else needs to disband.  Orders below, builds and deadline further down.
 
 
 
Rome:
A Dalmatia - Illyria (*Bounce*)
A Neapolis - Sicilia
A Roma - Neapolis
F Sardinia Hold
A Tarraconensis - Saguntum (*Bounce*)
F Tyrrhenean Sea Supports F Sardinia
 
Carthage:
F Berber Sea - Baleares
A Mauretania - Saguntum (*Bounce*)
F Punic Sea - Sardinia (*Fails*)
 
Persia:
F Aegean Sea Convoys A Byzantium - Athens
A Byzantium - Athens
A Chersonesus - Sarmatia
A Dacia - Illyria (*Bounce*)
F Macedonia Supports A Byzantium - Athens
F Minoan Sea Supports F Aegean Sea

A Sarmatia - Rhaetia
A Sinope - Chersonesus
A Tyre Hold
 
Greece:
A Athens, no move received (*Disbanded*)
F Ionian Sea, no move received
 
Egypt:
F Alexandria - Libyan Sea
A Carthage Hold
A Cirta Supports A Carthage
A Crete Hold
F Egyptian Sea Supports A Crete
F Gulf of Tacape Supports F Libyan Sea - Ausonian Sea
A Jerusalem - Tyre (*Fails*)

F Libyan Sea - Ausonian Sea
F Messenian Sea - Ionian Sea (*Fails*)
A Numidia Hold
F Sparta Supports A Byzantium - Athens
F Thapsus Supports A Carthage

 
 
Rome:  Build 1
Persia:  Build 2
Egypt:  Build 1
Carthage:  Stable
Greece:  Remove 1 *Eliminated*
 
Thanks again to Sam for playing.  Deadline for builds in Monday 4/19 at 8 PM EST.
 

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DC 285: Fall 296 BC results (dc285) Blueraider0 Apr 16, 09:59 pm
Interesting turn.  Sadly, 1 NMR.  We couldn't have a perfect record forever, folks.  Sam I've looked and looked but cannot find any orders from you.  If you think you've been wronged, forward me your orders along with my reciept.  But I've checked and I've checked and cannot find anything.  You have until th nt deadline to correct me.
 
As it stands, Sam has been defeated.  Thanks for hanging in there - always appreciated to have someone wiling to play to the bitter end.  I'll take you off the mailing list for this game unless you alert me otherwise.
 
In a strange turn of events, Roma is still under Carthagian control.  Greece will lose the fleet in Ionan, but no one else needs to disband.  Orders below, builds and deadline further down.
 
 
 
Rome:
A Dalmatia - Illyria (*Bounce*)
A Neapolis - Sicilia
A Roma - Neapolis
F Sardinia Hold
A Tarraconensis - Saguntum (*Bounce*)
F Tyrrhenean Sea Supports F Sardinia
 
Carthage:
F Berber Sea - Baleares
A Mauretania - Saguntum (*Bounce*)
F Punic Sea - Sardinia (*Fails*)
 
Persia:
F Aegean Sea Convoys A Byzantium - Athens
A Byzantium - Athens
A Chersonesus - Sarmatia
A Dacia - Illyria (*Bounce*)
F Macedonia Supports A Byzantium - Athens
F Minoan Sea Supports F Aegean Sea

A Sarmatia - Rhaetia
A Sinope - Chersonesus
A Tyre Hold
 
Greece:
A Athens, no move received (*Disbanded*)
F Ionian Sea, no move received
 
Egypt:
F Alexandria - Libyan Sea
A Carthage Hold
A Cirta Supports A Carthage
A Crete Hold
F Egyptian Sea Supports A Crete
F Gulf of Tacape Supports F Libyan Sea - Ausonian Sea
A Jerusalem - Tyre (*Fails*)

F Libyan Sea - Ausonian Sea
F Messenian Sea - Ionian Sea (*Fails*)
A Numidia Hold
F Sparta Supports A Byzantium - Athens
F Thapsus Supports A Carthage

 
 
Rome:  Build 1
Persia:  Build 2
Egypt:  Build 1
Carthage:  Stable
Greece:  Remove 1 *Eliminated*
 
Thanks again to Sam for playing.  Deadline for builds in Monday 4/19 at 8 PM EST.
 
DC 285: Fall 296 BC results - Blueraider0   (Apr 16, 2010, 9:59 pm)
Interesting turn.  Sadly, 1 NMR.  We couldn't have a perfect record forever, folks.  Sam I've looked and looked but cannot find any orders from you.  If you think you've been wronged, forward me your orders along with my reciept.  But I've checked and I've checked and cannot find anything.  You have until th nt deadline to correct me.
 
As it stands, Sam has been defeated.  Thanks for hanging in there - always appreciated to have someone wiling to play to the bitter end.  I'll take you off the mailing list for this game unless you alert me otherwise.
 
In a strange turn of events, Roma is still under Carthagian control.  Greece will lose the fleet in Ionan, but no one else needs to disband.  Orders below, builds and deadline further down.
 
 
 
Rome:
A Dalmatia - Illyria (*Bounce*)
A Neapolis - Sicilia
A Roma - Neapolis
F Sardinia Hold
A Tarraconensis - Saguntum (*Bounce*)
F Tyrrhenean Sea Supports F Sardinia
 
Carthage:
F Berber Sea - Baleares
A Mauretania - Saguntum (*Bounce*)
F Punic Sea - Sardinia (*Fails*)
 
Persia:
F Aegean Sea Convoys A Byzantium - Athens
A Byzantium - Athens
A Chersonesus - Sarmatia
A Dacia - Illyria (*Bounce*)
F Macedonia Supports A Byzantium - Athens
F Minoan Sea Supports F Aegean Sea

A Sarmatia - Rhaetia
A Sinope - Chersonesus
A Tyre Hold
 
Greece:
A Athens, no move received (*Disbanded*)
F Ionian Sea, no move received
 
Egypt:
F Alexandria - Libyan Sea
A Carthage Hold
A Cirta Supports A Carthage
A Crete Hold
F Egyptian Sea Supports A Crete
F Gulf of Tacape Supports F Libyan Sea - Ausonian Sea
A Jerusalem - Tyre (*Fails*)

F Libyan Sea - Ausonian Sea
F Messenian Sea - Ionian Sea (*Fails*)
A Numidia Hold
F Sparta Supports A Byzantium - Athens
F Thapsus Supports A Carthage

 
 
Rome:  Build 1
Persia:  Build 2
Egypt:  Build 1
Carthage:  Stable
Greece:  Remove 1 *Eliminated*
 
Thanks again to Sam for playing.  Deadline for builds in Monday 4/19 at 8 PM EST.
 

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DC 285: Deadline approaching - Blueraider0   (Apr 15, 2010, 11:44 am)
Deadline is at 5 PM tonight.  I won't get around to it, though, until tomorrow night at 10 PM.  So basically 24 hour extension.....
 
Regards!
-Maslow

--
"It's like in the great stories, Mr. Frodo. The ones that really mattered. Full of darkness and danger they were. and sometimes you didn't want to know the end because how could the end be happy? How could the world go back to the way it was when so much bad had happened? But in the end, it's only a passing thing. The shadow, even the darkness must pass. A new day will come. And when the sun shines it will shine out the clearer. Those were the stories that stayed with you - That meant something. Even if you were too small to understand why. But I think, Mr. Frodo, I do understand. I know now. Folk in those stories had lots of chances of turning back only they didn't. They kept going because they were holding onto something."

"What are we holding onto, Sam?"
"That there's some good in this world, Mr. Frodo. And it's worth fighting for."

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DC 285: Summer 296 retreat - blueraider0 at gmail.com   (Apr 08, 2010, 6:17 pm)
Gentlemen,
 
Greece army in Macedonia retreated to Athens.  Also, Persian moves have been corrected.  Also, somehow between last night and today my computer lost the RP file, so I had to manually recreate the map.  I'm positive I got it right, but if you see an error, let me know.
 
Also, I'm heading out tomorrow morning and will be gone until Sunday.  So don't get worried if I don't send a reciept for your orders.  If you don't get one by Monday afternoon, try again.
 
Deadline is 4/15 at 5 PM.
 
Regards!
-Maslow
--
"It's like in the great stories, Mr. Frodo. The ones that really mattered. Full of darkness and danger they were. and sometimes you didn't want to know the end because how could the end be happy? How could the world go back to the way it was when so much bad had happened? But in the end, it's only a passing thing. The shadow, even the darkness must pass. A new day will come. And when the sun shines it will shine out the clearer. Those were the stories that stayed with you - That meant something. Even if you were too small to understand why. But I think, Mr. Frodo, I do understand. I know now. Folk in those stories had lots of chances of turning back only they didn't. They kept going because they were holding onto something."
"What are we holding onto, Sam?"
"That there's some good in this world, Mr. Frodo. And it's worth fighting for."

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DC 285: Spring 296 results - blueraider0 at gmail.com   (Apr 07, 2010, 2:22 pm)
Lots of movement, the rich get richer and the poor get poorer.  Rome is recaptured, Carthage is taken, and the sea is swarming with Egyptian boats.  Good thing the Exodus happened a thousand years beforehand, or else that parting of the sea trick wouldn't have done much good (sorry, Passover just ended - had to do it)!
 
There's also an error on the map.  I accidentally clicked "Dacia" but ought to have clicked "Sarmatia".  I've corrected the error below, but can't edit the map until the retreat is resolve.  There is a Persian army in:
Sarmatia, Chersonesus and Sinope (and NO Persian unit in Galatia).
The map will be corrected when the retreat is sent out.  Yes, we have one retreat.
 
Rome:
A Dalmatia - Illyria (*Bounce*)
A Massilia - Tarraconensis
A Neapolis - Sicilia (*Bounce*)
A Ravenna - Roma
F Sardinia - Berber Sea (*Fails*)
F Tyrrhenean Sea - Sicilia (*Bounce*)

Carthage:
F Ausonian Sea - Punic Sea
F Berber Sea Supports A Saguntum - Mauretania (*Cut*)
A Carthage - Thapsus (*Disbanded*)
A Saguntum - Mauretania Persia:
F Aegean Sea - Sparta (*Fails*)
F Byzantium - Macedonia
A Chersonesus - Sarmatia
A Dacia Supports F Byzantium - Macedonia
A Galatia - Sinope
A Miletus - Byzantium
F Minoan Sea Hold
A Sinope - Chersonesus
A Tyre Hold

Greece:
A Macedonia - Illyria (*Dislodged*) [May retreat to Athens or Epirus or OTB]
F Sparta - Ionian Sea Egypt:
F Alexandria - Libyan Sea
F Athens(ec) - Sparta
A Cirta Supports A Mauretania - Carthage
A Crete Hold
F Egyptian Sea Supports A Crete
A Jerusalem Hold
F Libyan Sea - Gulf of Tacape
A Mauretania - Carthage
F Messenian Sea Supports F Athens(ec) - Sparta
A Numidia Hold
F Thapsus Supports A Mauretania - Carthage
F Thebes - Alexandria

 
Only one retreat:  Macedonia needs to retreat to Athens or Epirus or OTB.  Sam, you have until Friday 5 PM EST but the sooner the better, obviously.
 
Take care, and let me know if I made any errors.
 
-Maslow

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DC 285: Deadline alert - blueraider0 at gmail.com   (Apr 05, 2010, 4:49 pm)
Gentlemen,
 
Deadline is in 24 hours.  Still missing some orders.  Personal reminders forthcoming.
 
-Maslow
--
"It's like in the great stories, Mr. Frodo. The ones that really mattered. Full of darkness and danger they were. and sometimes you didn't want to know the end because how could the end be happy? How could the world go back to the way it was when so much bad had happened? But in the end, it's only a passing thing. The shadow, even the darkness must pass. A new day will come. And when the sun shines it will shine out the clearer. Those were the stories that stayed with you - That meant something. Even if you were too small to understand why. But I think, Mr. Frodo, I do understand. I know now. Folk in those stories had lots of chances of turning back only they didn't. They kept going because they were holding onto something."
"What are we holding onto, Sam?"
"That there's some good in this world, Mr. Frodo. And it's worth fighting for."

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DC 285 Winter 297 results: map - blueraider0 at gmail.com   (Mar 31, 2010, 7:25 am)
Whoops, forgot to attach the map.
--
"It's like in the great stories, Mr. Frodo. The ones that really mattered. Full of darkness and danger they were. and sometimes you didn't want to know the end because how could the end be happy? How could the world go back to the way it was when so much bad had happened? But in the end, it's only a passing thing. The shadow, even the darkness must pass. A new day will come. And when the sun shines it will shine out the clearer. Those were the stories that stayed with you - That meant something. Even if you were too small to understand why. But I think, Mr. Frodo, I do understand. I know now. Folk in those stories had lots of chances of turning back only they didn't. They kept going because they were holding onto something."
"What are we holding onto, Sam?"
"That there's some good in this world, Mr. Frodo. And it's worth fighting for."

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DC 285: Winter 297 results - blueraider0 at gmail.com   (Mar 31, 2010, 7:23 am)
It should be noted, Rome got only one build because Roma was occupied (and controlled) by Carthage.  So Rome has one less unit than it can supply.  SC graph is below.  Remember, to win you need 18 depots, just like in the standard version (its an interesting coincidence).
 
Rome:
Build A Ravenna

Carthage:
Remove F Roma
Greece:
Remove F Black Sea
Remove A Illyria
Egypt:
Build F Thebes
Build F Alexandria Rome:      Supp  7 Unit  6 Build  0
Carthage:  Supp  4 Unit  4 Build  0
Persia:    Supp  9 Unit  9 Build  0
Greece:    Supp  2 Unit  2 Build  0
Egypt:     Supp 12 Unit 12 Build  0

Spring 296 deadline is Tuesday, 4/6 at 5 PM EST.
 
Take care!
-Maslow
--
"It's like in the great stories, Mr. Frodo. The ones that really mattered. Full of darkness and danger they were. and sometimes you didn't want to know the end because how could the end be happy? How could the world go back to the way it was when so much bad had happened? But in the end, it's only a passing thing. The shadow, even the darkness must pass. A new day will come. And when the sun shines it will shine out the clearer. Those were the stories that stayed with you - That meant something. Even if you were too small to understand why. But I think, Mr. Frodo, I do understand. I know now. Folk in those stories had lots of chances of turning back only they didn't. They kept going because they were holding onto something."
"What are we holding onto, Sam?"
"That there's some good in this world, Mr. Frodo. And it's worth fighting for."

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DC 285: Winter 297 deadline - blueraider0 at gmail.com   (Mar 30, 2010, 9:14 am)
The winter deadline is in less than 24 hours.  I'm still missing some orders.  Individual nags forthcoming.  Get them in!
 
-Maslow
--
"It's like in the great stories, Mr. Frodo. The ones that really mattered. Full of darkness and danger they were. and sometimes you didn't want to know the end because how could the end be happy? How could the world go back to the way it was when so much bad had happened? But in the end, it's only a passing thing. The shadow, even the darkness must pass. A new day will come. And when the sun shines it will shine out the clearer. Those were the stories that stayed with you - That meant something. Even if you were too small to understand why. But I think, Mr. Frodo, I do understand. I know now. Folk in those stories had lots of chances of turning back only they didn't. They kept going because they were holding onto something."
"What are we holding onto, Sam?"
"That there's some good in this world, Mr. Frodo. And it's worth fighting for."

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DC 285: Fall 297 Results - blueraider0 at gmail.com   (Mar 28, 2010, 7:17 pm)
K.  You all heard the retreat.  Not gonna bother with another map unless someone actually wants it.  Builds/disbands due Tuesday 3/30 at 5 PM EST

On Sun, Mar 28, 2010 at 3:10 PM, Sam <sam_buck_productions(at)mac.com ([email]sam_buck_productions(at)mac.com[/email])> wrote:

You're welcome.

On Mar 28, 2010, at 2:58 PM, Adam Martin-Schwarze wrote:

[quote:0fb7f8656f] I'll retreat into Athens, thank you.

Adam

--- On Sat, 3/27/10, Alex Maslow <blueraider0(at)gmail.com ([email]blueraider0(at)gmail.com[/email])> wrote:
[quote:0fb7f8656f]
From: Alex Maslow <blueraider0(at)gmail.com ([email]blueraider0(at)gmail.com[/email])>
Subject: DC 285: Fall 297 Results
To: "285 list" <dc285(at)diplomaticcorp.com ([email]dc285(at)diplomaticcorp.com[/email])>, "Carthage-Todd" <sgttodd(at)mainecav.org ([email]sgttodd(at)mainecav.org[/email])>, "Egypt - Adam" <smegdwarf(at)yahoo.com ([email]smegdwarf(at)yahoo.com[/email])>, "Greece - Sam" <Sam_Buck_Productions(at)mac.com ([email]Sam_Buck_Productions(at)mac.com[/email])>, "Persia - Mike" <mrh(at)panix.com ([email]mrh(at)panix.com[/email])>, "Rome - Mark" <MDemagogue(at)gmail.com ([email]MDemagogue(at)gmail.com[/email])>
Date: Saturday, March 27, 2010, 11:31 PM

Gentlemen,
 
Thank you all so much for getting back in this game with such strength and vigor.  Even the late orders were delivered promptly, as you may have guessed.  That said, we do have a misorder.  But there is plenty of momentum shifting action.
 
Rome:
A Etruria - Massilia
A Roma - Neapolis
F Sardinia Hold
F Tyrrhenean Sea - Sicilia (*Bounce*)
A Vindobona - Dalmatia
 
Carthage:
F Ausonian Sea - Sicilia (*Bounce*)
F Berber Sea Supports A Carthage
A Carthage Supports A Thapsus (*Cut*)
F Ligurian Sea - Roma
A Tarraconensis - Saguntum
A Thapsus Supports A Carthage (*Disbanded*)
 
Persia:
A Armenia - Chersonesus
F Byzantium Supports F Miletus - Aegean Sea
A Cappadocia - Galatia
A Dacia Supports F Byzantium
A Galatia - Miletus
F Miletus - Aegean Sea
F Minoan Sea Supports F Miletus - Aegean Sea
A Sinope Supports A Armenia - Chersonesus (*Cut*)
A Tyre Hold
 
Greece:
A Athens - Macedonia
F Black Sea - Sinope (*Fails*)
A Illyria, no move received
A Dalmatia hold (no such unit)
F Sparta - Ionian Sea (*Bounce*)
 
Egypt:
F Aegean Sea Supports F Byzantium - Macedonia (*Dislodged*)
A Cirta Supports F Gulf of Tacape - Thapsus
A Cyrene - Crete
F Egyptian Sea Supports A Cyrene - Crete
F Gulf of Tacape - Thapsus
A Jerusalem, Hold
F Libyan Sea Convoys A Cyrene - Crete
A Mauretania - Carthage (*Fails*)
F Messenian Sea - Ionian Sea (*Bounce*)
A Numidia Supports F Gulf of Tacape - Thapsus
 
Thapsus disbanded automatically, Egyptian fleet in Aeg can retreat to Athens or disband.
 
To get your think-tanks going
 
Rome can build 1
 
Carthage must remove 1
 
Greece must remove 1
 
Egypt may build 1.
 
Greece -2 & Egypt +2 if Aeg retreatsto Ath.
 
Retreat due Monday 3/29 at 5 EST or whenever I get it.  Builds/disband will be due 48 hours after that.
 
Take care!
 
-Maslow

--
"It's like in the great stories, Mr. Frodo. The ones that really mattered. Full of darkness and danger they were. and sometimes you didn't want to know the end because how could the end be happy? How could the world go back to the way it was when so much bad had happened? But in the end, it's only a passing thing. The shadow, even the darkness must pass. A new day will come. And when the sun shines it will shine out the clearer. Those were the stories that stayed with you - That meant something. Even if you were too small to understand why. But I think, Mr. Frodo, I do understand. I know now. Folk in those stories had lots of chances of turning back only they didn't. They kept going because they were holding onto something."
"What are we holding onto, Sam?"
"That there's some good in this world, Mr. Frodo. And it's worth fighting for."



[/quote:0fb7f8656f]




[/quote:0fb7f8656f]


--
"It's like in the great stories, Mr. Frodo. The ones that really mattered. Full of darkness and danger they were. and sometimes you didn't want to know the end because how could the end be happy? How could the world go back to the way it was when so much bad had happened? But in the end, it's only a passing thing. The shadow, even the darkness must pass. A new day will come. And when the sun shines it will shine out the clearer. Those were the stories that stayed with you - That meant something. Even if you were too small to understand why. But I think, Mr. Frodo, I do understand. I know now. Folk in those stories had lots of chances of turning back only they didn't. They kept going because they were holding onto something."
"What are we holding onto, Sam?"
"That there's some good in this world, Mr. Frodo. And it's worth fighting for."

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DC 285: Fall 297 Results - Samnuva   (Mar 28, 2010, 2:10 pm)
You're welcome.
On Mar 28, 2010, at 2:58 PM, Adam Martin-Schwarze wrote:

I'll retreat into Athens, thank you.

Adam

--- On Sat, 3/27/10, Alex Maslow <blueraider0(at)gmail.com ([email]blueraider0(at)gmail.com[/email])> wrote:
[quote:959876606d]
From: Alex Maslow <blueraider0(at)gmail.com ([email]blueraider0(at)gmail.com[/email])>
Subject: DC 285: Fall 297 Results
To: "285 list" <dc285(at)diplomaticcorp.com ([email]dc285(at)diplomaticcorp.com[/email])>, "Carthage-Todd" <sgttodd(at)mainecav.org ([email]sgttodd(at)mainecav.org[/email])>, "Egypt - Adam" <smegdwarf(at)yahoo.com ([email]smegdwarf(at)yahoo.com[/email])>, "Greece - Sam" <Sam_Buck_Productions(at)mac.com ([email]Sam_Buck_Productions(at)mac.com[/email])>, "Persia - Mike" <mrh(at)panix.com ([email]mrh(at)panix.com[/email])>, "Rome - Mark" <MDemagogue(at)gmail.com ([email]MDemagogue(at)gmail.com[/email])>
Date: Saturday, March 27, 2010, 11:31 PM

Gentlemen,

Thank you all so much for getting back in this game with such strength and vigor. Even the late orders were delivered promptly, as you may have guessed. That said, we do have a misorder. But there is plenty of momentum shifting action.

Rome:
A Etruria - Massilia
A Roma - Neapolis
F Sardinia Hold
F Tyrrhenean Sea - Sicilia (*Bounce*)
A Vindobona - Dalmatia

Carthage:
F Ausonian Sea - Sicilia (*Bounce*)
F Berber Sea Supports A Carthage
A Carthage Supports A Thapsus (*Cut*)
F Ligurian Sea - Roma
A Tarraconensis - Saguntum
A Thapsus Supports A Carthage (*Disbanded*)

Persia:
A Armenia - Chersonesus
F Byzantium Supports F Miletus - Aegean Sea
A Cappadocia - Galatia
A Dacia Supports F Byzantium
A Galatia - Miletus
F Miletus - Aegean Sea
F Minoan Sea Supports F Miletus - Aegean Sea
A Sinope Supports A Armenia - Chersonesus (*Cut*)
A Tyre Hold

Greece:
A Athens - Macedonia
F Black Sea - Sinope (*Fails*)
A Illyria, no move received
A Dalmatia hold (no such unit)
F Sparta - Ionian Sea (*Bounce*)

Egypt:
F Aegean Sea Supports F Byzantium - Macedonia (*Dislodged*)
A Cirta Supports F Gulf of Tacape - Thapsus
A Cyrene - Crete
F Egyptian Sea Supports A Cyrene - Crete
F Gulf of Tacape - Thapsus
A Jerusalem, Hold
F Libyan Sea Convoys A Cyrene - Crete
A Mauretania - Carthage (*Fails*)
F Messenian Sea - Ionian Sea (*Bounce*)
A Numidia Supports F Gulf of Tacape - Thapsus

Thapsus disbanded automatically, Egyptian fleet in Aeg can retreat to Athens or disband.

To get your think-tanks going

Rome can build 1

Carthage must remove 1

Greece must remove 1

Egypt may build 1.

Greece -2 & Egypt +2 if Aeg retreatsto Ath.

Retreat due Monday 3/29 at 5 EST or whenever I get it. Builds/disband will be due 48 hours after that.

Take care!

-Maslow

--
"It's like in the great stories, Mr. Frodo. The ones that really mattered. Full of darkness and danger they were. and sometimes you didn't want to know the end because how could the end be happy? How could the world go back to the way it was when so much bad had happened? But in the end, it's only a passing thing. The shadow, even the darkness must pass. A new day will come. And when the sun shines it will shine out the clearer. Those were the stories that stayed with you - That meant something. Even if you were too small to understand why. But I think, Mr. Frodo, I do understand. I know now. Folk in those stories had lots of chances of turning back only they didn't. They kept going because they were holding onto something."
"What are we holding onto, Sam?"
"That there's some good in this world, Mr. Frodo. And it's worth fighting for."



[/quote:959876606d]

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DC 285: Fall 297 Results - AceRimmer   (Mar 28, 2010, 1:58 pm)
I'll retreat into Athens, thank you.

Adam

--- On Sat, 3/27/10, Alex Maslow <blueraider0(at)gmail.com> wrote:


From: Alex Maslow <blueraider0(at)gmail.com>
Subject: DC 285: Fall 297 Results
To: "285 list" <dc285(at)diplomaticcorp.com>, "Carthage-Todd" <sgttodd(at)mainecav.org>, "Egypt - Adam" <smegdwarf(at)yahoo.com>, "Greece - Sam" <Sam_Buck_Productions(at)mac.com>, "Persia - Mike" <mrh(at)panix.com>, "Rome - Mark" <MDemagogue(at)gmail.com>
Date: Saturday, March 27, 2010, 11:31 PM

Gentlemen,

Thank you all so much for getting back in this game with such strength and vigor. Even the late orders were delivered promptly, as you may have guessed. That said, we do have a misorder. But there is plenty of momentum shifting action.

Rome:
A Etruria - Massilia
A Roma - Neapolis
F Sardinia Hold
F Tyrrhenean Sea - Sicilia (*Bounce*)
A Vindobona - Dalmatia

Carthage:
F Ausonian Sea - Sicilia (*Bounce*)
F Berber Sea Supports A Carthage
A Carthage Supports A Thapsus (*Cut*)
F Ligurian Sea - Roma
A Tarraconensis - Saguntum
A Thapsus Supports A Carthage (*Disbanded*)

Persia:
A Armenia - Chersonesus
F Byzantium Supports F Miletus - Aegean Sea
A Cappadocia - Galatia
A Dacia Supports F Byzantium
A Galatia - Miletus
F Miletus - Aegean Sea
F Minoan Sea Supports F Miletus - Aegean Sea
A Sinope Supports A Armenia - Chersonesus (*Cut*)
A Tyre Hold

Greece:
A Athens - Macedonia
F Black Sea - Sinope (*Fails*)
A Illyria, no move received
A Dalmatia hold (no such unit)
F Sparta - Ionian Sea (*Bounce*)

Egypt:
F Aegean Sea Supports F Byzantium - Macedonia (*Dislodged*)
A Cirta Supports F Gulf of Tacape - Thapsus
A Cyrene - Crete
F Egyptian Sea Supports A Cyrene - Crete
F Gulf of Tacape - Thapsus
A Jerusalem, Hold
F Libyan Sea Convoys A Cyrene - Crete
A Mauretania - Carthage (*Fails*)
F Messenian Sea - Ionian Sea (*Bounce*)
A Numidia Supports F Gulf of Tacape - Thapsus

Thapsus disbanded automatically, Egyptian fleet in Aeg can retreat to Athens or disband.

To get your think-tanks going

Rome can build 1

Carthage must remove 1

Greece must remove 1

Egypt may build 1.

Greece -2 & Egypt +2 if Aeg retreatsto Ath.

Retreat due Monday 3/29 at 5 EST or whenever I get it. Builds/disband will be due 48 hours after that.

Take care!

-Maslow

--
"It's like in the great stories, Mr. Frodo. The ones that really mattered. Full of darkness and danger they were. and sometimes you didn't want to know the end because how could the end be happy? How could the world go back to the way it was when so much bad had happened? But in the end, it's only a passing thing. The shadow, even the darkness must pass. A new day will come. And when the sun shines it will shine out the clearer. Those were the stories that stayed with you - That meant something. Even if you were too small to understand why. But I think, Mr. Frodo, I do understand. I know now. Folk in those stories had lots of chances of turning back only they didn't. They kept going because they were holding onto something."
"What are we holding onto, Sam?"
"That there's some good in this world, Mr. Frodo. And it's worth fighting for."


[Reply]

DC 285: Fall 297 Results - blueraider0 at gmail.com   (Mar 27, 2010, 11:31 pm)
Gentlemen,
 
Thank you all so much for getting back in this game with such strength and vigor.  Even the late orders were delivered promptly, as you may have guessed.  That said, we do have a misorder.  But there is plenty of momentum shifting action.
 
Rome:
A Etruria - Massilia
A Roma - Neapolis
F Sardinia Hold
F Tyrrhenean Sea - Sicilia (*Bounce*)
A Vindobona - Dalmatia
 
Carthage:
F Ausonian Sea - Sicilia (*Bounce*)
F Berber Sea Supports A Carthage
A Carthage Supports A Thapsus (*Cut*)
F Ligurian Sea - Roma
A Tarraconensis - Saguntum
A Thapsus Supports A Carthage (*Disbanded*)
 
Persia:
A Armenia - Chersonesus
F Byzantium Supports F Miletus - Aegean Sea
A Cappadocia - Galatia
A Dacia Supports F Byzantium
A Galatia - Miletus
F Miletus - Aegean Sea
F Minoan Sea Supports F Miletus - Aegean Sea
A Sinope Supports A Armenia - Chersonesus (*Cut*)
A Tyre Hold
 
Greece:
A Athens - Macedonia
F Black Sea - Sinope (*Fails*)
A Illyria, no move received
A Dalmatia hold (no such unit)
F Sparta - Ionian Sea (*Bounce*)
 
Egypt:
F Aegean Sea Supports F Byzantium - Macedonia (*Dislodged*)
A Cirta Supports F Gulf of Tacape - Thapsus
A Cyrene - Crete
F Egyptian Sea Supports A Cyrene - Crete
F Gulf of Tacape - Thapsus
A Jerusalem, Hold
F Libyan Sea Convoys A Cyrene - Crete
A Mauretania - Carthage (*Fails*)
F Messenian Sea - Ionian Sea (*Bounce*)
A Numidia Supports F Gulf of Tacape - Thapsus
 
Thapsus disbanded automatically, Egyptian fleet in Aeg can retreat to Athens or disband.
 
To get your think-tanks going
 
Rome can build 1
 
Carthage must remove 1
 
Greece must remove 1
 
Egypt may build 1.
 
Greece -2 & Egypt +2 if Aeg retreatsto Ath.
 
Retreat due Monday 3/29 at 5 EST or whenever I get it.  Builds/disband will be due 48 hours after that.
 
Take care!
 
-Maslow

--
"It's like in the great stories, Mr. Frodo. The ones that really mattered. Full of darkness and danger they were. and sometimes you didn't want to know the end because how could the end be happy? How could the world go back to the way it was when so much bad had happened? But in the end, it's only a passing thing. The shadow, even the darkness must pass. A new day will come. And when the sun shines it will shine out the clearer. Those were the stories that stayed with you - That meant something. Even if you were too small to understand why. But I think, Mr. Frodo, I do understand. I know now. Folk in those stories had lots of chances of turning back only they didn't. They kept going because they were holding onto something."
"What are we holding onto, Sam?"
"That there's some good in this world, Mr. Frodo. And it's worth fighting for."

[Reply]

DC 285: Fall 297 Results (dc285) AceRimmer Mar 28, 01:58 pm
I'll retreat into Athens, thank you.

Adam

--- On Sat, 3/27/10, Alex Maslow <blueraider0(at)gmail.com> wrote:


From: Alex Maslow <blueraider0(at)gmail.com>
Subject: DC 285: Fall 297 Results
To: "285 list" <dc285(at)diplomaticcorp.com>, "Carthage-Todd" <sgttodd(at)mainecav.org>, "Egypt - Adam" <smegdwarf(at)yahoo.com>, "Greece - Sam" <Sam_Buck_Productions(at)mac.com>, "Persia - Mike" <mrh(at)panix.com>, "Rome - Mark" <MDemagogue(at)gmail.com>
Date: Saturday, March 27, 2010, 11:31 PM

Gentlemen,

Thank you all so much for getting back in this game with such strength and vigor. Even the late orders were delivered promptly, as you may have guessed. That said, we do have a misorder. But there is plenty of momentum shifting action.

Rome:
A Etruria - Massilia
A Roma - Neapolis
F Sardinia Hold
F Tyrrhenean Sea - Sicilia (*Bounce*)
A Vindobona - Dalmatia

Carthage:
F Ausonian Sea - Sicilia (*Bounce*)
F Berber Sea Supports A Carthage
A Carthage Supports A Thapsus (*Cut*)
F Ligurian Sea - Roma
A Tarraconensis - Saguntum
A Thapsus Supports A Carthage (*Disbanded*)

Persia:
A Armenia - Chersonesus
F Byzantium Supports F Miletus - Aegean Sea
A Cappadocia - Galatia
A Dacia Supports F Byzantium
A Galatia - Miletus
F Miletus - Aegean Sea
F Minoan Sea Supports F Miletus - Aegean Sea
A Sinope Supports A Armenia - Chersonesus (*Cut*)
A Tyre Hold

Greece:
A Athens - Macedonia
F Black Sea - Sinope (*Fails*)
A Illyria, no move received
A Dalmatia hold (no such unit)
F Sparta - Ionian Sea (*Bounce*)

Egypt:
F Aegean Sea Supports F Byzantium - Macedonia (*Dislodged*)
A Cirta Supports F Gulf of Tacape - Thapsus
A Cyrene - Crete
F Egyptian Sea Supports A Cyrene - Crete
F Gulf of Tacape - Thapsus
A Jerusalem, Hold
F Libyan Sea Convoys A Cyrene - Crete
A Mauretania - Carthage (*Fails*)
F Messenian Sea - Ionian Sea (*Bounce*)
A Numidia Supports F Gulf of Tacape - Thapsus

Thapsus disbanded automatically, Egyptian fleet in Aeg can retreat to Athens or disband.

To get your think-tanks going

Rome can build 1

Carthage must remove 1

Greece must remove 1

Egypt may build 1.

Greece -2 & Egypt +2 if Aeg retreatsto Ath.

Retreat due Monday 3/29 at 5 EST or whenever I get it. Builds/disband will be due 48 hours after that.

Take care!

-Maslow

--
"It's like in the great stories, Mr. Frodo. The ones that really mattered. Full of darkness and danger they were. and sometimes you didn't want to know the end because how could the end be happy? How could the world go back to the way it was when so much bad had happened? But in the end, it's only a passing thing. The shadow, even the darkness must pass. A new day will come. And when the sun shines it will shine out the clearer. Those were the stories that stayed with you - That meant something. Even if you were too small to understand why. But I think, Mr. Frodo, I do understand. I know now. Folk in those stories had lots of chances of turning back only they didn't. They kept going because they were holding onto something."
"What are we holding onto, Sam?"
"That there's some good in this world, Mr. Frodo. And it's worth fighting for."


DC 285: Fall 297 Results (dc285) Samnuva Mar 28, 02:10 pm
You're welcome.
On Mar 28, 2010, at 2:58 PM, Adam Martin-Schwarze wrote:

I'll retreat into Athens, thank you.

Adam

--- On Sat, 3/27/10, Alex Maslow <blueraider0(at)gmail.com ([email]blueraider0(at)gmail.com[/email])> wrote:
[quote:959876606d]
From: Alex Maslow <blueraider0(at)gmail.com ([email]blueraider0(at)gmail.com[/email])>
Subject: DC 285: Fall 297 Results
To: "285 list" <dc285(at)diplomaticcorp.com ([email]dc285(at)diplomaticcorp.com[/email])>, "Carthage-Todd" <sgttodd(at)mainecav.org ([email]sgttodd(at)mainecav.org[/email])>, "Egypt - Adam" <smegdwarf(at)yahoo.com ([email]smegdwarf(at)yahoo.com[/email])>, "Greece - Sam" <Sam_Buck_Productions(at)mac.com ([email]Sam_Buck_Productions(at)mac.com[/email])>, "Persia - Mike" <mrh(at)panix.com ([email]mrh(at)panix.com[/email])>, "Rome - Mark" <MDemagogue(at)gmail.com ([email]MDemagogue(at)gmail.com[/email])>
Date: Saturday, March 27, 2010, 11:31 PM

Gentlemen,

Thank you all so much for getting back in this game with such strength and vigor. Even the late orders were delivered promptly, as you may have guessed. That said, we do have a misorder. But there is plenty of momentum shifting action.

Rome:
A Etruria - Massilia
A Roma - Neapolis
F Sardinia Hold
F Tyrrhenean Sea - Sicilia (*Bounce*)
A Vindobona - Dalmatia

Carthage:
F Ausonian Sea - Sicilia (*Bounce*)
F Berber Sea Supports A Carthage
A Carthage Supports A Thapsus (*Cut*)
F Ligurian Sea - Roma
A Tarraconensis - Saguntum
A Thapsus Supports A Carthage (*Disbanded*)

Persia:
A Armenia - Chersonesus
F Byzantium Supports F Miletus - Aegean Sea
A Cappadocia - Galatia
A Dacia Supports F Byzantium
A Galatia - Miletus
F Miletus - Aegean Sea
F Minoan Sea Supports F Miletus - Aegean Sea
A Sinope Supports A Armenia - Chersonesus (*Cut*)
A Tyre Hold

Greece:
A Athens - Macedonia
F Black Sea - Sinope (*Fails*)
A Illyria, no move received
A Dalmatia hold (no such unit)
F Sparta - Ionian Sea (*Bounce*)

Egypt:
F Aegean Sea Supports F Byzantium - Macedonia (*Dislodged*)
A Cirta Supports F Gulf of Tacape - Thapsus
A Cyrene - Crete
F Egyptian Sea Supports A Cyrene - Crete
F Gulf of Tacape - Thapsus
A Jerusalem, Hold
F Libyan Sea Convoys A Cyrene - Crete
A Mauretania - Carthage (*Fails*)
F Messenian Sea - Ionian Sea (*Bounce*)
A Numidia Supports F Gulf of Tacape - Thapsus

Thapsus disbanded automatically, Egyptian fleet in Aeg can retreat to Athens or disband.

To get your think-tanks going

Rome can build 1

Carthage must remove 1

Greece must remove 1

Egypt may build 1.

Greece -2 & Egypt +2 if Aeg retreatsto Ath.

Retreat due Monday 3/29 at 5 EST or whenever I get it. Builds/disband will be due 48 hours after that.

Take care!

-Maslow

--
"It's like in the great stories, Mr. Frodo. The ones that really mattered. Full of darkness and danger they were. and sometimes you didn't want to know the end because how could the end be happy? How could the world go back to the way it was when so much bad had happened? But in the end, it's only a passing thing. The shadow, even the darkness must pass. A new day will come. And when the sun shines it will shine out the clearer. Those were the stories that stayed with you - That meant something. Even if you were too small to understand why. But I think, Mr. Frodo, I do understand. I know now. Folk in those stories had lots of chances of turning back only they didn't. They kept going because they were holding onto something."
"What are we holding onto, Sam?"
"That there's some good in this world, Mr. Frodo. And it's worth fighting for."



[/quote:959876606d]
DC 285: Fall 297 Results (dc285) blueraider0 at gmail.com Mar 28, 07:17 pm
K.  You all heard the retreat.  Not gonna bother with another map unless someone actually wants it.  Builds/disbands due Tuesday 3/30 at 5 PM EST

On Sun, Mar 28, 2010 at 3:10 PM, Sam <sam_buck_productions(at)mac.com ([email]sam_buck_productions(at)mac.com[/email])> wrote:

You're welcome.

On Mar 28, 2010, at 2:58 PM, Adam Martin-Schwarze wrote:

[quote:0fb7f8656f] I'll retreat into Athens, thank you.

Adam

--- On Sat, 3/27/10, Alex Maslow <blueraider0(at)gmail.com ([email]blueraider0(at)gmail.com[/email])> wrote:
[quote:0fb7f8656f]
From: Alex Maslow <blueraider0(at)gmail.com ([email]blueraider0(at)gmail.com[/email])>
Subject: DC 285: Fall 297 Results
To: "285 list" <dc285(at)diplomaticcorp.com ([email]dc285(at)diplomaticcorp.com[/email])>, "Carthage-Todd" <sgttodd(at)mainecav.org ([email]sgttodd(at)mainecav.org[/email])>, "Egypt - Adam" <smegdwarf(at)yahoo.com ([email]smegdwarf(at)yahoo.com[/email])>, "Greece - Sam" <Sam_Buck_Productions(at)mac.com ([email]Sam_Buck_Productions(at)mac.com[/email])>, "Persia - Mike" <mrh(at)panix.com ([email]mrh(at)panix.com[/email])>, "Rome - Mark" <MDemagogue(at)gmail.com ([email]MDemagogue(at)gmail.com[/email])>
Date: Saturday, March 27, 2010, 11:31 PM

Gentlemen,
 
Thank you all so much for getting back in this game with such strength and vigor.  Even the late orders were delivered promptly, as you may have guessed.  That said, we do have a misorder.  But there is plenty of momentum shifting action.
 
Rome:
A Etruria - Massilia
A Roma - Neapolis
F Sardinia Hold
F Tyrrhenean Sea - Sicilia (*Bounce*)
A Vindobona - Dalmatia
 
Carthage:
F Ausonian Sea - Sicilia (*Bounce*)
F Berber Sea Supports A Carthage
A Carthage Supports A Thapsus (*Cut*)
F Ligurian Sea - Roma
A Tarraconensis - Saguntum
A Thapsus Supports A Carthage (*Disbanded*)
 
Persia:
A Armenia - Chersonesus
F Byzantium Supports F Miletus - Aegean Sea
A Cappadocia - Galatia
A Dacia Supports F Byzantium
A Galatia - Miletus
F Miletus - Aegean Sea
F Minoan Sea Supports F Miletus - Aegean Sea
A Sinope Supports A Armenia - Chersonesus (*Cut*)
A Tyre Hold
 
Greece:
A Athens - Macedonia
F Black Sea - Sinope (*Fails*)
A Illyria, no move received
A Dalmatia hold (no such unit)
F Sparta - Ionian Sea (*Bounce*)
 
Egypt:
F Aegean Sea Supports F Byzantium - Macedonia (*Dislodged*)
A Cirta Supports F Gulf of Tacape - Thapsus
A Cyrene - Crete
F Egyptian Sea Supports A Cyrene - Crete
F Gulf of Tacape - Thapsus
A Jerusalem, Hold
F Libyan Sea Convoys A Cyrene - Crete
A Mauretania - Carthage (*Fails*)
F Messenian Sea - Ionian Sea (*Bounce*)
A Numidia Supports F Gulf of Tacape - Thapsus
 
Thapsus disbanded automatically, Egyptian fleet in Aeg can retreat to Athens or disband.
 
To get your think-tanks going
 
Rome can build 1
 
Carthage must remove 1
 
Greece must remove 1
 
Egypt may build 1.
 
Greece -2 & Egypt +2 if Aeg retreatsto Ath.
 
Retreat due Monday 3/29 at 5 EST or whenever I get it.  Builds/disband will be due 48 hours after that.
 
Take care!
 
-Maslow

--
"It's like in the great stories, Mr. Frodo. The ones that really mattered. Full of darkness and danger they were. and sometimes you didn't want to know the end because how could the end be happy? How could the world go back to the way it was when so much bad had happened? But in the end, it's only a passing thing. The shadow, even the darkness must pass. A new day will come. And when the sun shines it will shine out the clearer. Those were the stories that stayed with you - That meant something. Even if you were too small to understand why. But I think, Mr. Frodo, I do understand. I know now. Folk in those stories had lots of chances of turning back only they didn't. They kept going because they were holding onto something."
"What are we holding onto, Sam?"
"That there's some good in this world, Mr. Frodo. And it's worth fighting for."



[/quote:0fb7f8656f]




[/quote:0fb7f8656f]


--
"It's like in the great stories, Mr. Frodo. The ones that really mattered. Full of darkness and danger they were. and sometimes you didn't want to know the end because how could the end be happy? How could the world go back to the way it was when so much bad had happened? But in the end, it's only a passing thing. The shadow, even the darkness must pass. A new day will come. And when the sun shines it will shine out the clearer. Those were the stories that stayed with you - That meant something. Even if you were too small to understand why. But I think, Mr. Frodo, I do understand. I know now. Folk in those stories had lots of chances of turning back only they didn't. They kept going because they were holding onto something."
"What are we holding onto, Sam?"
"That there's some good in this world, Mr. Frodo. And it's worth fighting for."
DC 285: Update - blueraider0 at gmail.com   (Mar 27, 2010, 7:13 pm)
All,
 
We're missing a set of orders, but given that we're getting back into the swing of things, that person has until Monday to get me orders.  I've contacted them personally already.
 
Take care!
-Maslow
--
"It's like in the great stories, Mr. Frodo. The ones that really mattered. Full of darkness and danger they were. and sometimes you didn't want to know the end because how could the end be happy? How could the world go back to the way it was when so much bad had happened? But in the end, it's only a passing thing. The shadow, even the darkness must pass. A new day will come. And when the sun shines it will shine out the clearer. Those were the stories that stayed with you - That meant something. Even if you were too small to understand why. But I think, Mr. Frodo, I do understand. I know now. Folk in those stories had lots of chances of turning back only they didn't. They kept going because they were holding onto something."
"What are we holding onto, Sam?"
"That there's some good in this world, Mr. Frodo. And it's worth fighting for."

[Reply]

DC 285: Reminder - blueraider0 at gmail.com   (Mar 24, 2010, 7:22 pm)
We have a few days until the deadline, but after a 10 day delay, I figure it can't hurt to throw out an extra reminder.  The game is on and the deadline is 3/27.
 
-Maslow
--
"It's like in the great stories, Mr. Frodo. The ones that really mattered. Full of darkness and danger they were. and sometimes you didn't want to know the end because how could the end be happy? How could the world go back to the way it was when so much bad had happened? But in the end, it's only a passing thing. The shadow, even the darkness must pass. A new day will come. And when the sun shines it will shine out the clearer. Those were the stories that stayed with you - That meant something. Even if you were too small to understand why. But I think, Mr. Frodo, I do understand. I know now. Folk in those stories had lots of chances of turning back only they didn't. They kept going because they were holding onto something."
"What are we holding onto, Sam?"
"That there's some good in this world, Mr. Frodo. And it's worth fighting for."

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