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A call for NEW gm's! - test_gm   (Sep 13, 2007, 12:00 am)
Hey diplomers…
The next standard game has filled (again) and is in search of a fearless leader!

There are currently 16 GM’s running 38 games in the club… if you would like to join the ranks, pls let me know!

Some benefits of being a GM:
<![if !supportLists]>- <![endif]>It will improve your play! You will learn how players order, how alliances change, and so on. It will definitely take your Diplomacy game to the next level.
<![if !supportLists]>- <![endif]>It only takes about 20 minutes per week to run a turn.
<![if !supportLists]>- <![endif]>You’re making it possible for 7 other players to enjoy the game.

You remember your first game, right? You remember the GM, and the commentaries, and when the results came out? Well our next standard is full of 7 anxious and interested new players looking for that person to be their GM!

Especially to those new to the club… we run completely by volunteer help. Anyone can GM a game, just have to speak up.

Once you do, you will most likely get hooked and always want to run a couple while playing in a couple.

Enjoy!
-mike

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Diplomaticcorp Site Down - test_gm   (Sep 13, 2007, 12:00 am)
Hi folks,

Mike has asked me to post this in the forum in explanation as to why the site is down:

Due to storms in northern california the site will be down till tomorrow at the soonest. Some major power lines were knocked out.

Apologies for any frustration this may cause. Cheers all!

Trout

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Unknown - test_gm   (Sep 13, 2007, 12:00 am)
Awe come on. Was is really vicious or just naive? Rember we are newbies. lol.

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DC 145 Spring '01 Results - test_gm   (Sep 13, 2007, 12:00 am)
map:

http://home.comcast.net/~dawench/14501Spring.gif

Deadline:

Fall '01 is due Tuesday January 15th 8 AM CST (GMT -6) 1400 GMT

Orders and Results:

Austria:
A Budapest - Serbia
F Trieste - Albania
A Vienna - Trieste

England:
F Edinburgh Hold
A Liverpool - Wales
F London - North Sea

France:
F Brest - Mid-Atlantic Ocean
A Marseilles Supports A Paris - Burgundy
A Paris - Burgundy

Germany:
A Berlin - Kiel
F Kiel - Denmark
A Munich - Burgundy (*Fails*)

Italy:
F Naples - Ionian Sea
A Rome - Apulia
A Venice Hold

Russia:
A Moscow - St Petersburg
F Sevastopol - Black Sea (*Bounce*)
F St Petersburg(sc) - Gulf of Bothnia
A Warsaw - Ukraine

Turkey:
F Ankara - Black Sea (*Bounce*)
A Constantinople - Bulgaria
A Smyrna - Constantinople

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DC-114 Spring 1908 Adjudication - test_gm   (Sep 13, 2007, 12:00 am)
International GM Press: A Huge coordinated multinational assault prevents the noble attempts to save the stranded French army enjoying its time in Tuscan Vineyards. Vittorio Emmanuel declares the eradication of French in his native country the top military priority, even to the expense of his Atlantic Ocean foothold. Russia and England spar over Berlin to no avail, while the Royal Navy explains to the rest of Europe why the Turko-Italian naval arms race must stay in "Mare Nostrum"

The French Army in Tuscany is disbanded.
French Fleet Gulf of Lyon can retreat to Marseilles or OTB.
Italian fleet Mid-Atlantic Ocean can retreat to Gascony or OTB.

Summer 1908 retreats are due within 48 hours. Website is updated.

[u:cc25ecd107]Italy[/u:cc25ecd107]
Fleet Mid Atlantic Ocean-Spain(north coast) (Bounce, Dislodged 2:1)
Fleet Rome-Tuscany
Army Venice Support Fleet Rome-Tuscany

[u:cc25ecd107]Russia[/u:cc25ecd107]
A Sev-->Ukraine
A Trieste holds
A Prussia-->Berlin (Fails 2:3)
A Silesia S A Prussia-->Berlin
A War S A Livonia
A Livonia holds
A Moscow S A Livonia

[u:cc25ecd107]Turkey[/u:cc25ecd107]
A Piemonte - hold
A Munich -S- (Russia: Prussia --> Berlin) (Support Cut)
A Tyrolia -S- Munich
F Ionian Sea --> Tunis
F Tunis --> F West Mediterranean sea
F West Mediterranean sea --> Gulf of Lyon
F North Africa -S- (F Tunis --> West Mediterranean sea)
F Tyrhennian sea -S- (F West Mediterranean sea --> Gulf of Lyon)

[u:cc25ecd107]France[/u:cc25ecd107]
F (Portugal) - s - English F (North Atlantic Ocean) - Middle Atlantic Ocean
F (Gulf of Lyons) -c- A (Tuscany) - Marsellies (Convoy Cut, Dislodged 2:1)
F (Spain)(sc) - Western Mediterranean Sea (Fails 1:2)
A (Burgundy) - s - A (Tuscany) - Marsellies
A (Tuscany) - Marsellies (Fails Convoy Cut)

[u:cc25ecd107]England[/u:cc25ecd107]
F Baltic Sea Supports A Berlin
A Berlin Supports A Ruhr - Munich (Support Cut)
F English Channel - Brest
F Gulf of Bothnia Supports A St Petersburg
F Kiel Supports A Berlin
F Liverpool - Irish Sea
F North Atlantic Ocean - Mid-Atlantic Ocean
F North Sea - English Channel
A Ruhr - Munich (Bounce 1:1)
A St Petersburg Hold
A Sweden - Denmark

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Diplomacy World #100 Released - Winter 2007 Issue - test_gm   (Sep 13, 2007, 12:00 am)
The long-awaited 100th issue of Diplomacy World has
finally been released. You can download the free pdf
version directly from the Diplomacy World website at

http://www.diplomacyworld.net

A tiny sampling of the articles included in this
issue:

Interviews with Diplomacy creator Allan Calhamer, and
Diplomacy World first Editor Dr. Walter Buchanan

News and an advertisement for the new Avalon Hill
Diplomacy set, due out in March

An article on the Diplomaticcorp Diplomacy community

Details on Diplomacy in Australia and South Africa

An article on combining your trip to World DipCon in
2008 with another convention.

Articles by long-time hobby members such as Conrad von
Metzke, Jack McHugh, Jim O'Kelley, Richard Walkerdine,
Gary Behnen, and far too many others to mention

The TRUE love story of Eric and Cathy Ozog and how
Diplomacy brought them together

Melinda Holley on 7x7 Gunboat Tournaments

The first two seasons of the new Diplomacy World Demo
Game

A detailed encounter with Euro DipCon XV and all the
fun at that event

...and SO MUCH more!

Please check it out, and be sure to drop us a line
with feedback!




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Do you guys have a standby list? - test_gm   (Sep 13, 2007, 12:00 am)
I am willing to be a standby but I didn't know if there was a standby list I could sign up for.

If you don't have one maybe you could have one? Some place a person can put there name, perhaps with deadlines or varients they are willing to sign up for?

Like this:

Player: Flapjack

Varients: Any except for economic ones like Payola

Deadlies: At least once day for Dip and once every 2 days for varients.

Just a thought.

FlapJack

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A call for NEW gm's! - test_gm   (Sep 13, 2007, 12:00 am)
Hey again,
Since posting this last week, we’ve started 2 new games, and have yet another almost ready to go!

Between the Winter Blitz (www.diplomaticcorp.com/winterblitz) and the dipwiki (www.dipwiki.com) all rolling out this January, we’re just bursting with new players looking for a game.

If you’ve ever wanted to try your hand at GM’ing, (especially new players who have enjoyed playing but not tried GM’ing) let either me or Steve or Trout know! We can certainly help w getting up to speed on things.

Enjoy,
-mike



Hey diplomers…
The next standard game has filled (again) and is in search of a fearless leader!

There are currently 16 GM’s running 38 games in the club… if you would like to join the ranks, pls let me know!

Some benefits of being a GM:
* It will improve your play! You will learn how players order, how alliances change, and so on. It will definitely take your Diplomacy game to the next level.
* It only takes about 20 minutes per week to run a turn.
* You’re making it possible for 7 other players to enjoy the game.

You remember your first game, right? You remember the GM, and the commentaries, and when the results came out? Well our next standard is full of 7 anxious and interested new players looking for that person to be their GM!

Especially to those new to the club… we run completely by volunteer help. Anyone can GM a game, just have to speak up.

Once you do, you will most likely get hooked and always want to run a couple while playing in a couple.

Enjoy!
-mike

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Re: Do you guys have a standby list? - test_gm   (Sep 13, 2007, 12:00 am)
Hi Flapjack,
What we do have in terms of standby lists, is the Light Brigade - this is managed by Trout (former.trout(at)gmail.com) - if interested, ping him... it's basically a committed group of ppl ready to step up and fill replacement spots should one come up and a game suddenly need a player - usually for rather poor positions (the good positions dont seem to have a problem getting replacements - wonder why... ) Mainly just doing the club a favor by filling in for them.

As for the other variants, we dont keep a list of ppl that want to play them, cuz games are based on GM... generally a GM will step up and say "I want to run one of these" and so it goes on the Open Games list where players can join. If you are interested in drumming up support for any variant in particular, you should just post such in the variants forum... being sure to make the subject line good, cuz that's what shows on the site home page. Then if there's a few ppl interested, likely a GM will step up and open a game for it, and then players can join. Like I've opened up the Pericles game, to see what interest there is in it, but if something else seems better, I'm flexible! Also if there's any game you want to RUN, then by all means we can set up an opening for it, just let someone know.

As for the "Once every day or once every 2 days"... that would be considered "extremely insane blitz" play... Even the Winter Blitz tournament allows 3 days per turn! Typical games run 1 week per turn. Some GM's tho have, on occasion, been crazy enough to take on such fast games... <ahem... Felix>

-mike


I am willing to be a standby but I didn't know if there was a standby list I could sign up for.

If you don't have one maybe you could have one? Some place a person can put there name, perhaps with deadlines or varients they are willing to sign up for?

Like this:

Player: Flapjack

Varients: Any except for economic ones like Payola

Deadlies: At least once day for Dip and once every 2 days for varients.

Just a thought.

FlapJack

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Thanks for the info - test_gm   (Sep 13, 2007, 12:00 am)
Mike,

Thanks for the info.

I have no problem with longer deadlines...I was going by the houserules I saw listed with the Pericles variant as I didn't see deadlines listed with any other games so I wasn't sure what is expected on here--some of the judges at the Diplomatic Pouch think anything more than 72 hours is for wimps. I generally go with the flow wherever I am--I can play fast or slow, its up to the other players.

I'll let Trout know I'm available, I don't mind taking mercy positions. Sometimes they are a lot of fun and there is no pressure playing them as no expects you to do anything anyway.

Jack

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Thank You Please Post! - test_gm   (Sep 13, 2007, 12:00 am)
From our friend Felix...

-----Original Message-----
From: Felix Kam Chung [mailto:felixkamchung(at)mac.com]
Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2008 8:36 PM

Hello!

Thanks so much for your understanding, I haven't the energy
to send it to everyone on my list and so I would appreciate it if
you would all post it in a general forum to thank all those for their
kind words;
They have been words that have been well received.

Its been a very tough couple of weeks for my family, and I have had a
Deluge of emails which I have not the time or the energy to filter
through.

I am truly sorry for leaving diplomacy, but until I can gather the
strength I will not be participating in the game I love so much.

Until we meet again. I remain forever yours.

Felix

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Unknown - test_gm   (Sep 13, 2007, 12:00 am)
International Fleet Month....hmmmm.....

It only makes sense. Isn't something like 70% of the world water?

This is my first game outside of family and I'm having fun, thanks everyone. Razz

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DC-114 Summer Adjudication - test_gm   (Sep 13, 2007, 12:00 am)
F Mid-Atlantic Ocean retreats to Gascony

More than 24 hours passed the deadline I have received no retreat order from France. A NMR on a retreat is a disband. F Gulf of Lyon is disbanded. Pursuant to House Rule #8 this is France's first NMR. Another will be cause for removal.

Fall 1908 orders are due by 11pm Central Standard Time Tuesday, January 15th. Website is updated.

John Soper

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109 & 133 (Heir) tomorrow! - test_gm   (Sep 13, 2007, 12:00 am)
Yep—missing many moves yet, so scurry over to that inbox of yours and make sure you’ve got a confirm from me! Otherwise the fate of your empire may take a turn for the worse…

-mike

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Unknown - test_gm   (Sep 13, 2007, 12:00 am)
is this filled?

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Unknown - test_gm   (Sep 13, 2007, 12:00 am)
It was, and now there is an opening for a Turkey. Interested?

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DC-114 Fall 1908 Adjudication - test_gm   (Sep 13, 2007, 12:00 am)
There are 3 retreats:
French Fleet Spain SC can retreat to Gulf of Lyon or OTB
Turkish Army Munich can retreat to Bohemia or OTB
Italian Army Venice can retreat to Rome, Apulia, or OTB

Retreats are due in 48 hours.

[u:9215396a96]Italy[/u:9215396a96]
Fleet Tuscany-Piedmont (Bounce 1:1)
Army Venice-Tyrolia (Fails 1:1, Dislodged 2:1)
Fleet Gascony-Spain(north coast)

[u:9215396a96]Russia[/u:9215396a96]
A Ukraine-->Galacia
A Trieste-->Venice
A Prussia S A Silesia-->Berlin
A Silesia-->Berlin (Bounce 2:2)
A War S A Livonia
A Livonia S A Prussia
A Moscow-->St. Petersburg (Fails 1:2)

[u:9215396a96]Turkey[/u:9215396a96]
A Piedmont -s- (F Gulf of Lyon --> Marseilles) (Cut)
A Munich --> Burgundy (Dislodged 3:1)
A Tyrolia -s- (Russia: Trieste --> Venice)
F Tunis ---> Tyrhennian Sea
F West Mediterranean sea -s- (Italia: Gascony - Spain nc)
F Gulf of Lyon --> Marseilles
F North Africa --> Mid Atlantic Ocean (Fails 1:2)
F Tyrhennian sea --> Napoli

[u:9215396a96]France[/u:9215396a96]
A (Burgundy) - s - English A (Berlin) - Munich
F (Portugal) - s - English A (Middle Atlantic Ocean)
F (Spain)(SC) - Stand (Dislodged 2:1)

[u:9215396a96]England[/u:9215396a96]
F Baltic Sea Convoys A Denmark - Berlin
A Berlin - Munich
F Brest Supports F Mid-Atlantic Ocean - Gascony
A Denmark - Berlin (Bounce 2:2)
F English Channel Supports F Irish Sea - Mid-Atlantic Ocean
F Gulf of Bothnia Supports A St Petersburg
F Irish Sea - Mid-Atlantic Ocean
F Kiel Supports A Denmark - Berlin
F Mid-Atlantic Ocean - Gascony
A Ruhr Supports A Berlin - Munich
A St Petersburg Hold

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DC-114 Autumn Adjudication - test_gm   (Sep 13, 2007, 12:00 am)
France Retreats F Spain sc to Gulf of Lyon
Italy Retreats A Venice to Apulia
Turkey Retreats A Munich - Bohemia
Winter Adjustments due in 48 hours. Website is updated Winter 1908 Adjustments
England (13) Build 2
France (2) Disband 1
Italy (2) Disband 1
Turkey (9) Build 1
Russia (Cool Build 1

John Soper

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RP error? - test_gm   (Sep 13, 2007, 12:00 am)
I think I've found an error in how RP adjudicates things... am I a genius or is this old news?

Take this scenario...


RP adjudicates this as all moves fail.

However, I believe the Boh-Vie should succeed:

Nothing cuts the Russian support... Vie tries to, but we all know Vie-Gal does not cut support for an attack on Vie itself... unless he succeeds in dislodging Gal - which he doesnt, cuz of the standoff created by the Russian self-attack on Gal.

The Russian attack doesnt cut support either, cuz you cant cut your own support.

Thus the Russian Gal is a beleagured garrison, it stands firm, and it's support for the German should go thru, right?

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Unknown - test_gm   (Sep 13, 2007, 12:00 am)
This is interesting. Offhand I can't think of a reason why A Boh-Vie should not succeed.

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Cutting Support Where It Shouldn't - test_gm   (Sep 13, 2007, 12:00 am)
Mike, I think you're right here.

It looks as though the Austrian attack from Vienna is succeeding in cutting support in Galicia. That obviously can't happen in a case where the support is being used for an attack on Vienna.

Looks as though you found an RP glitch. Interesting. Wonder who we would notify about this...

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Unknown - test_gm   (Sep 13, 2007, 12:00 am)
My understanding is (and perhaps it is because i play a lot of variants), although I dont have anywhere near the experience of my nemesis.. Mr Cohen..

The 'beleagured garrison' rule is in effect that the unit does not have to retreat because it is attacked by 2 opposing attacks of equal strength.

It does not imply that the unit still retains it's supporting power bceause it is under attack. It merely does not have to retreat. I'd call this a soft hold because i've been talking to Kornel too much.

So in Mike's example, I would break it down like this

(1) The unit in Galicia is taken out of the attack because it is attacked by Vienna with support. At this stage it's support is cut and it needs to retreat.

(2) The attack in galicia by russia means he is forcing the beleagured garrision rule - this Galica does not have to retreat. (it's soft holding)

(3) The attack on Vienna fails because there is no support.

Now i know, diplomacy moves all happen simultaneosuly and at the same time, but i think the way realpolitik is designed it would take these process steps as it goes through...

so I would definately lean in favour that realpolitk has got it right in this case.

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Unknown - test_gm   (Sep 13, 2007, 12:00 am)
and to follow up



because in this example... where GAL receives support in holding even though it's under attack from 2 sides of equal strength.. the support on Vienna is allowed.

So in my example above

(1) The unit in Galicia is attacked by Vienna with support. At this stage it's is not dislodged from Galicia because of support from the Italian army. Therefore it is NO subject to the beleagured garrison rule.

(2) The attack on galicia by russia has no effect in this case.

(3) The attack on Vienna by germany then suceeds because Vienna cannot cut support from Galicia and Galica was not dislodged.


Many people make this mistake. They assume the Beleagured garrison rule means the unit is fine. It acutally means the unit is 'dislodged' but does not have to retreat......

and dislodged units dont provide support...

Interesting discussion though, thanks Mike.

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Just to be argumentative - test_gm   (Sep 13, 2007, 12:00 am)
Surprise, surprise.. I disagree.

The 2:2 standoff between Austria and Russia in Galicia make it so that neither attack actually occurs. How can the army in Galicia actually be 'dislodged' if the Austrian attack did not actually take place?

In addition, I have never heard of a situation where a unit was dislodged but not forced to retreat.

Of course, because of the 'planned' attack by Austria that would typically mean that the support fom Galicia was still cut. Except where that Vienna cannot cut support for an attack on itself.

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Good Old Dip Rules... - test_gm   (Sep 13, 2007, 12:00 am)
Yup - it's right there on page 6 of the standard Dip rules:

http://www.wizards.com/avalonhill/rules/diplomacy.pdf

A standoff does not dislodge a unit already in the province where the standoff took place. If two units (or forces of equal strength) attack the same province, thus standing each other off, a unit already in that province is not dislodged.



So, based on that, the army in Galicia remains unaffected by the Austrian attack and its support for the German attack should remain in place.

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