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DC344: Soloism vs Drawism - sirjames   (Jan 16, 2011, 11:17 am)

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DC344: Soloism vs Drawism - charlesf   (Dec 07, 2010, 3:30 pm)
First of all, thank you for all your feedback. I do
recognize that I should have been more flexible regarding SU's
approaches for a rapprochement. Kyle has a point in that I don't
have the morale for accusing others of sticking too long with
their alliances. But regarding the reaction to the BI attack, I
must say I would have done the same again. If I'm under attack
of a superior coalition and I don't see any diplomatic avenues
open, I always go for the strategy of creating imbalances in the
coalition by favouring one of the sides.



Hi Joao, aiming for such imbalances is common practice. But it's
rather less common for players going as far as giving up all
resistance vis-à-vis one party.



I'm not saying that such an extreme approach cannot work. It's just
that in combination with your other decisions, I believe it was
destined to fail.





The point
here is that, in my opinion, the spirit of the game is to put
strategic considerations before personal considerations about
players' abilities, style or game approach. From my point of
view, these should be a blank paper when the game starts and
evolve as the game goes on (that's why I favour gunboat games).






I definitely subscribe to a clean slate approach when it comes to
playing a game with folks I've encountered in previous games.
However antagonistic that past experience may have been, I approach
the new game in as unprejudiced and open-minded manner as possible.
Much as I consider a game a self-contained unit and do not care what
my actions within that game might mean for my reputation following
the game.



It's not
only that other players were able to forge relationships that
almost seemed unnatural to the game, it's also that some players
feared having alliances with me because they knew that sooner or
later I would stab them if they don't stab me first - well,
isn't that the whole point of playing?





The point of the game is winning. Not stabbing. Though in all
likelihood, you'll have to engage in some of the latter to attain
the former.



Though actually in my recent 1900 solo, I only stabbed one in the
game. Most of the time, it was I who got stabbed, but just happened
to gain the upper hand in the ensuing melée. It's not like I
actually wanted to get stabbed (as Bismarck masterfully got Napoleon
III to stab him in 1870, but won the ensuing Franco-German War). But
it all worked out nicely enough. Sadly can't claim the brilliant
foresight of Otto von Bismarck.






This is why I do hope the next 1936 game I play is
in a tournament context, where by definition only one player can
win and therefore "soloism", which for me is equivalent to Dip's
spirit, is encouraged.



Quite. The 1936 tournament we're planning shall be a sweet
social-darwinistic affair. Qualifying for the championship game will
take a few elbows. Smile The more first round boards we can set up
(seven would be ideal, we've currently got four GMs), the more
"soloist" shall things become.



Though with the right qualification rules, the scramble for first
place will be bound to be intense. Much as for Joao, this is music
to my ears! Looking forward to the show.




Another option is to establish a
DIAS only rule. In this particular case, it would have forced
the game to continue, since Jimmy says he was determined to
eliminate me and Dirk really wanted a 3-way, not a 4 or 5-way
draw, which means that I, Dan and Kyle would have to be
eliminated and that BGI would have to find a 17, 17, 16 formula.
If in that scenario one of them wouldn't have tried the solo, in
a variant with untested stalemate lines, well, my faith in Dip
would diminish a lot Wink





Any player still in a game can effectively turn it into a DIAS-only
game. He just needs to hold out.



Cheers,



Charles

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DC344: Soloism vs Drawism (dc344) sirjames Jan 16, 11:17 am
DC344: TurkishEOG - jlqueiros   (Dec 07, 2010, 1:50 pm)

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DC344: Soviet EOG report - TJKnauss   (Dec 07, 2010, 12:00 am)

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DC344: TurkishEOG - DamienThryn   (Dec 06, 2010, 11:56 am)

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DC344: TurkishEOG - sirjames   (Dec 05, 2010, 7:54 am)

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DC344: TurkishEOG - jlqueiros   (Dec 04, 2010, 7:06 am)

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DC344: TurkishEOG (dc344) sirjames Dec 05, 07:54 am
DC344: TurkishEOG (dc344) DamienThryn Dec 06, 11:56 am
DC344: TurkishEOG (dc344) jlqueiros Dec 07, 01:50 pm
dc344: Britain EOG report - sirjames   (Dec 03, 2010, 9:35 pm)

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dc344: Italy EOG report - DamienThryn   (Dec 03, 2010, 5:09 pm)

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dc344: German EOG report - dknemeyer   (Dec 03, 2010, 12:37 pm)

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DC344: Winter 1939 Retreats/Adjustments - charlesf   (Dec 03, 2010, 8:44 am)
Hi guys,



the game has has reached its conclusion as the BGI three-way draw
proposal has met universal approval. For the sake of a clean
end-status map, I'm now also attaching what would have been the
winter results.



Please submit your EOG report no later than Wednesday 6 PM. I'll
then compile these and add my own two cents. Next to your own
account of this particular contest, I'd appreciate your frank
input regarding the variant. Map design, balance, victory criteria
and such... Last game stimulated an interesting discussion and
prompted me to go back to the drawing-board, resulting in v1.5.



I'd like to thank you guys for being such pleasant and reliable
crew. Congratulations to everyone for seeing it out to the end of
this short game. I look forward to your EOGs!



Cheers,



Charles





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PLAYERS:

??? BRITAIN: Jimmy Ghostine <Jimmy.Ghostine(at)vtmednet.org>
(DRAW)

??? FRANCE: Matthew Kelly <kelly058(at)verizon.net>
(Replacement Spring 1937, eliminated Winter 193Cool

??? GERMANY: Dirk Knemeyer <dirk(at)knemeyer.com>
(DRAW)

??? ITALY & NAT. SPAIN: Andrew Tanner <feanorsfirstborn(at)gmail.com>?
(DRAW)

??? POLAND: Daniel Dzikowicz <ddz999cat23(at)yahoo.com>
(SURVIVAL)

??? SOVIET UNION & REP. SPAIN: Kyle Overby-Lee <tomjnkns.IL(at)gmail.com>
(SURVIVAL)

??? TURKEY: Joao Queiros <jlqueiros3(at)hotmail.com>
(SURVIVAL)






HEADLINES:

??? o PEACE IN OUR TIME?!?



PRESS: None.



RETREATS:
None.



ADJUSTMENTS:



Britain:

Build A London

Build A Suez



Germany:

Build F Hamburg

Build F Berlin

Build A Munich

Build A Austria



Italy:

Build F Naples



Poland:

Remove A Byelorussia



Turkey:

Remove F Stalingrad(wc)

Remove F Alexandretta









SUPPLY CENTER OWNERSHIP (Winter
193Cool:


?? Britain(9+1=10): +Belgium+, Brest, Edinburgh, Egypt, Liverpool, London,Morocco, Netherlands, Norway, Suez.

??? Germany(10+2=12): Austria, Berlin, +Cracow+, Czechia, Denmark, Gdynia, Hamburg, +Lithuania+, Munich, Sweden, Switzerland, Warsaw.

??? Italy(9+3-2=10): -Algiers-,
+Bulgaria+, Croatia, +Istanbul+, Izmir, +Marseille+, Milan, Naples, -Paris-, Rome, Serbia, Tripoli.

??? Poland(4+1-3=2): -Cracow-, Latvia, -Lithuania-, +Moscow+, -Rumania-.

??? Turkey(7-2=5)ConfusedAnkara, Beirut, -Bulgaria-, Iran, Iraq, -Istanbul-, Stalingrad.

??? USSR(3+1-1=3): Finland, Leningrad, -Moscow-, +Rumania+.


??? Nationalist Spain(1+1-1=1): +Algiers+, -Valencia-.


??? Republican Spain(4+1-1=4):
Burgos, Madrid, -Marseille-,


Portugal, +Valencia+.

??? Others(3-1=2): -Belgium-, Greece, Hungary.





DEADLINE SCHEDULE: (all orders are
due NLT 6PM CET (GMT+1)...not local time)



??? o EOG
Reports Deadline: 8 December



RESULTS MAP:

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DC344: Fall 1939 Moves - charlesf   (Dec 02, 2010, 11:23 am)
Hi guys,



ever wondered why the Polish national anthem's called "Poland Has
Not Yet Perished"? Well, it's because Polish history has this
knack of producing pretty dire situations in which you need an
upbeat song to rallye the nation. Far from home, I dare say Polish
soldiers are currently in need of a hearty song. For in a matter
of two years, the territory governed by Poles has shrunk to but a
third of the realm's former size. In any case, Poland has
recovered from worse throughout its history, so who knows what the
future might hold...?



Elsewhere, it appears that the Spanish Civil War has been finally
decided. The Republicans now control all of Spain and have been
recognised as the legitimate Spanish government by most
governments. This means that Spain's diplomatic clout has
considerably increased (i.e. there are no DP restrictions on
Republican DPs going forward).



If the Nationalist press organs are to believed, we're about to
see Nationalist volunteers in the East (much as was historically
the case in WW2). See the below press submission.



Furthermore, another BGI three-way draw proposal has been put on
the table. Get your votes in, gentlemen.



Sorry for keeping you waiting for the adjucation. Adjustments are
due tomorrow, 6 PM CET.



Cheers,



Charles





----------

PLAYERS:

??? BRITAIN: Jimmy Ghostine <Jimmy.Ghostine(at)vtmednet.org>

??? FRANCE: Matthew Kelly <kelly058(at)verizon.net>
(Replacement Spring 1937, eliminated Winter 193Cool

??? GERMANY: Dirk Knemeyer <dirk(at)knemeyer.com>

??? ITALY & NAT. SPAIN: Andrew Tanner <feanorsfirstborn(at)gmail.com>

??? POLAND: Daniel Dzikowicz <ddz999cat23(at)yahoo.com>

??? SOVIET UNION & REP. SPAIN: Kyle Overby-Lee <tomjnkns.IL(at)gmail.com>

??? TURKEY: Joao Queiros <jlqueiros3(at)hotmail.com>




HEADLINES:

??? o BRITISH CAPITALISTS COME TO
THE USSR'S RESCUE

???
o CASE WHITE A STUNNING SUCCESS, SAYS WEHRMACHT
SPOKESMAN

??? o THE DUCE FONDLY REMEMBERS HIS SOCIALIST
ROOTS. SUPPORTS RED ARMY OPERATIONS.

??? o DECIMATED POLISH ARMY FAILS TO STORM
LENINGRAD

??? o SOVIET SOLDIERS BILLETED TO CONSTANTA
WINTER QUARTERS

??? o TURKS SEARCH FOR OIL UNDER KUWEITI SANDS

??? o NATIONALISTS SET OUT ON A NEW CRUSADE,
REPUBLICANS CONTROL THE ENTIRE PENINSULA



NATIONALIST PRESS: "Fellow
Spaniards! ?The time has come for this senseless struggle and
perpetual fear to end. ?We Nationalists and Republicans find
our beliefs to be incompatible, and it leads us to war. ?But
no more! ?Spain must be whole, and the Republican forces have
proven that they have the courage and wisdom to govern fair
Iberia. We of the Nationalist cause have chosen to undertake a
new mission: ?Aided by our Italian allies, we will undertake a
pilgrimage to reclaim and rebuild the holy Eastern Roman
capital of Constantinople! ?There we will create, as our
forefathers did in the age before the reconquest, a joint
Christian-Islamic society that will be the envy of the world!
To Constantinople, my brothers and sisters!
To?Constantinople!"



ORDERS:



Britain:

F Belgium - Netherlands

A Paris Hold

F Suez - Palestine(nc)

F Arabian Sea Supports F Suez - Palestine(nc)

F Atlantic Ocean Hold

F English Channel - Belgium

F Libyan Sea Hold

F Norwegian Sea Supports A Leningrad

F South-Western Approaches - Morocco (*Bounce*)



Germany:

A East Prussia - Lithuania

F Hamburg - Baltic Sea

A Lorraine Supports A Switzerland

A Pomerania - Greater Poland

A Silesia - Cracow

A Switzerland Supports A Lorraine

A Volhynia Supports A East Prussia - Lithuania

F Gulf of Danzig Supports A East Prussia - Lithuania



Italy:

A Bulgaria - Thrace

A Burgundy - Marseille

F Istanbul - Bulgaria

A Izmir - Istanbul

A Marseille - Piedmont

A Serbia Supports F Istanbul - Bulgaria

A Transylvania Supports A Eastern Ukraine - Rumania

F Ionian Sea - Greece (*Fails*)

F Western Mediterranean Convoys A Valencia - Algiers



Poland:

A Byelorussia - Leningrad (*Fails*)

A Latvia Supports A Byelorussia - Leningrad (*Cut*)

A Moscow Supports A Byelorussia - Leningrad



Turkey:

F Alexandretta Supports F Ankara(sc) - Eastern
Mediterranean

F Ankara(sc) - Eastern Mediterranean

F Beirut Supports F Ankara(sc) - Eastern Mediterranean

A Iraq - Kuweit

A Palestine - Iraq

A Stalingrad - Iran

F Black Sea - Stalingrad(wc)



USSR:

A Eastern Ukraine - Rumania

F Estonia - Latvia (*Fails*)

A Leningrad Supports F Estonia - Latvia (*Cut*)



Nationalist_Spain:

A Valencia - Algiers



Republican_Spain:

A Catalonia - Valencia

A Gibraltar - Morocco (*Bounce*)

A Madrid - Gibraltar (*Fails*)

A Portugal Hold



Greece:

F Greece Hold



Hungary:

A Hungary Hold



PENDING RETREATS: None.



PENDING ADJUSTMENTS:



Britain:


Build

Build



Germany:

Build

Build

Build

Build



Italy:

Build



Poland:

Remove



Turkey:

Remove

Remove









SUPPLY CENTER OWNERSHIP (Winter
193Cool:


?? Britain(9): Brest, Edinburgh, Egypt, Liverpool, London,Morocco, Netherlands, Norway, Suez.

??? Germany(10): Austria, Berlin, Czechia, Denmark, Gdynia, Hamburg, Munich, Sweden, Switzerland, Warsaw.

??? Italy(9): Algiers, Croatia, Izmir, Milan, Naples, Paris, Rome, Serbia, Tripoli.

??? Poland(4)ConfusedCracow, Latvia, Lithuania, Rumania.

??? Turkey(7)ConfusedAnkara, Beirut, Bulgaria, Iran, Iraq, Istanbul, Stalingrad.

??? USSR(3): Finland, Leningrad, Moscow.


??? Nationalist Spain(1): Valencia.


??? Republican Spain(4): Burgos, Madrid, Marseille,


Portugal.

??? Others(3): Belgium, Greece, Hungary.





DEADLINE SCHEDULE: (all orders are
due NLT 6PM CET (GMT+1)...not local time)



???


o Winter?1939
Retreats/Adjustments:
3 December

??? o
Spring 1940 Moves: (6) 8
December

???
o Summer?1940
Retreats: 10 November

??






o
Fall?1940
MovesConfused (13)
15 December



ORDERS MAP:





RESULTS MAP:

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DC344: Summer 1939 Retreats - DamienThryn   (Nov 29, 2010, 12:25 am)

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DC344: Summer 1939 Retreats - dknemeyer   (Nov 28, 2010, 7:55 am)

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DC344: Summer 1939 Retreats - jlqueiros   (Nov 27, 2010, 6:33 pm)

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DC344: Summer 1939 Retreats - DamienThryn   (Nov 27, 2010, 5:37 pm)

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DC344: Spring 1939 Moves - DamienThryn   (Nov 27, 2010, 5:19 pm)

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DC344: Spring 1939 Moves - jlqueiros   (Nov 27, 2010, 4:55 am)
> From: Jimmy.Ghostine(at)vtmednet.org
> To: ddz999cat23(at)yahoo.com
> CC: feanorsfirstborn(at)gmail.com; dirk(at)knemeyer.com; jlqueiros3(at)hotmail.com; charlesf(at)web.de; tomjnkns.il(at)gmail.com; dc344(at)diplomaticcorp.com; hancockfc(at)yahoo.com; wmysonski(at)gmail.com; wealllovekatamari(at)yahoo.com; kelly058(at)verizon.net; vonpowell(at)aol.com

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DC344: Summer 1939 Retreats - dknemeyer   (Nov 26, 2010, 5:36 pm)

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DC344: Spring 1939 Moves - sirjames   (Nov 26, 2010, 2:53 pm)

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DC344: Summer 1939 Retreats - jlqueiros   (Nov 26, 2010, 2:09 pm)

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DC344: Spring 1939 Moves - DamienThryn   (Nov 26, 2010, 1:17 pm)

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DC344: Summer 1939 Retreats - charlesf   (Nov 26, 2010, 9:02 am)
Hi guys,



as no player has requested that I delay until the final deadline,
I'm adjucating somewhat early rather than making you wait until
Saturday.



The BGI draw proposal has failed.



Preliminary move orders are? due Monday, 6 PM CET.



Happy Thanksgiving!



Charles





----------

PLAYERS:

??? BRITAIN: Jimmy Ghostine <Jimmy.Ghostine(at)vtmednet.org>

??? FRANCE: Matthew Kelly <kelly058(at)verizon.net>
(Replacement Spring 1937, eliminated Winter 193Cool

??? GERMANY: Dirk Knemeyer <dirk(at)knemeyer.com>

??? ITALY & NAT. SPAIN: Andrew Tanner <feanorsfirstborn(at)gmail.com>

??? POLAND: Daniel Dzikowicz <ddz999cat23(at)yahoo.com>

??? SOVIET UNION & REP. SPAIN: Kyle Overby-Lee <tomjnkns.IL(at)gmail.com>

??? TURKEY: Joao Queiros <jlqueiros3(at)hotmail.com>




HEADLINES:

??? o ROYAL MARINES FALL BACK TO SUEZ CANAL ZONE

???
o RED ARMY LICKS ITS WOUNDS IN THE UKRAINE



PRESS: None. Sad



RETREATS:



Britain:

F Palestine(nc) - Suez



USSR:

A Moscow - Eastern Ukraine









SUPPLY CENTER OWNERSHIP (Winter
193Cool:


?? Britain(9): Brest, Edinburgh, Egypt, Liverpool, London,Morocco, Netherlands, Norway, Suez.

??? Germany(10): Austria, Berlin, Czechia, Denmark, Gdynia, Hamburg, Munich, Sweden, Switzerland, Warsaw.

??? Italy(9): Algiers, Croatia, Izmir, Milan, Naples, Paris, Rome, Serbia, Tripoli.

??? Poland(4)ConfusedCracow, Latvia, Lithuania, Rumania.

??? Turkey(7)ConfusedAnkara, Beirut, Bulgaria, Iran, Iraq, Istanbul, Stalingrad.

??? USSR(3): Finland, Leningrad, Moscow.


??? Nationalist Spain(1): Valencia.


??? Republican Spain(4): Burgos, Madrid, Marseille,

Portugal.

??? Others(3): Belgium, Greece, Hungary.





DEADLINE SCHEDULE: (all orders are
due NLT 6PM CET (GMT+1)...not local time)



??





o
Fall?1939
MovesConfused 1
December

???

o Winter?1939
Retreats/Adjustments:
3 December

??? o
Spring 1940 Moves: (6) 8
December

???
o Summer?1940
Retreats: 10 November



RESULTS MAP:

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DC344: Summer 1939 Retreats (dc344) jlqueiros Nov 26, 02:09 pm
DC344: Summer 1939 Retreats (dc344) dknemeyer Nov 26, 05:36 pm
DC344: Summer 1939 Retreats (dc344) DamienThryn Nov 27, 05:37 pm
DC344: Summer 1939 Retreats (dc344) jlqueiros Nov 27, 06:33 pm
DC344: Summer 1939 Retreats (dc344) dknemeyer Nov 28, 07:55 am
DC344: Summer 1939 Retreats (dc344) DamienThryn Nov 29, 12:25 am
DC344: On Votes - charlesf   (Nov 25, 2010, 10:38 pm)
Hi guys,
to clarify: I accept any vote emailed directly to me (not CCed!) after a
game-end proposal is officially on the table.
Whether or not the same email is also adressed to other people does not
matter either way.
Naturally, a player might vote one way in an email adressed to a wider
group, while immediately following that up with instructions solely
adressed to me to reverse that vote. The last vote I receive counts.
I will privately confirm the latest vote I receive from a player.
Should I have a complete set of affirmative votes, the proposal passes
even prior to said deadline.
Cheers,
Charles

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DC344 Italy/Nationalist Spain Summer Vote - TJKnauss   (Nov 25, 2010, 6:03 pm)

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