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DC397: Russia's EOG Statement - politesociety   (Feb 11, 2012, 5:01 pm)
Hi All, I just realized Gerry's EOG statement from a couple of days ago went to me but not to everyone else! Sorry for not passing it along. Here it is:
On Thu, Feb 9, 2012 at 3:53 PM, Gerry Bayer <starhop8(at)gmail.com> wrote:


Thanks Eric for GMing and congratulations to Gareth on his solo . 

It's funny how quickly things can change . After the first 2 years I was rehearsing my victory speech ,  the next couple of years I was practicing my "there's nothing wrong with a draw" speech, after that I was desperately hoping I'd last till the end 


 Rather than give a historical summary of the game I thought I'd make 3 points 

The turning point came in ( if I recall) F03 where England and I had coordinated a set of moves to put Germany (Gareth) on the defensive. Unfortunately  Bret changed his mind at the last minute and  went with a different option. I don't think it was meant as a stab against me , he just thought it was the better thing to do. Unfortunately he did not tell me and as a result Germany gained a unit rather than lost one . Turned the entire complexion of the game around , at least in the north. I lost 2 units, England lost 1 and Germany gained 1 . Turkey (Michael)  had stabbed me the season before but I thought I could hold him off in the south if I made gains up north, sadly that did not happen.
The second point is the atrocious lack of communication  this game .  Gareth and I communicated  regularly as well as Michael and I ( at least at the start) . England never communicated with me until F02 I think, despite me sending messages to him . Whoever heard of England and Russia not exchanging anything until F02 ! France and I communicated once, I sent a second message and received no reply and that was it until the end of the game. Matt, I really don't know why you were playing . I know you've apologized for your lack of communication but really...Sending me suggestions 3 hours before the deadline does not cut it . I did offer to proxy for you as maybe you were having real life issues. To continue the way you did made no sense.  Diplomacy is all about writing and receiving messages and trying to make sense out of what other players are saying and not saying.  If you aren't doing that then you aren't playing Diplomacy.
Lastly , I don't want to take anything from Gareth's solo but I don't think France did much or tried very hard to stop you .  If I was France I would have been writing and urging everyone  to take a stand against that big bully Germany . I heard nothing until the very end where France was supposed to move against Germany but did the opposite. It's all rather suspicious...I'm really hoping France did do their best , I'm just not seeing it . 

Gerry
On Sat, Feb 11, 2012 at 8:37 AM, Gareth Griffiths <gnr.griffiths(at)gmail.com> wrote:





Hi everyone,



I've not had EOG's from anyone yet, so maybe when you receive mine
it'll kick-start things? Don't feel obligated though, I simply think
it can be interesting to read and can help answer the unanswered
questions.



The beginning:

Things started out straightforwardly. I agreed with France to keep
Burgundy demilitaried, with Austria and Italy to keep Tyrolia
unoccupied, and with Russia to keep Prussia and Silesia empty. Even
better, everyone followed through on these agreements. After England
and France bounced in the Channel I managed to pick up three builds
in 1901 for a good start. My single mistake in '01 being to let
Russia into Sweden: I did not expect Russia to pick up Budapest!



I continued to head north in 1902, moving into SKA and Den so that I
was in a position to turn either east or west depending on how
things worked out. In the end Bret and I weren't able to come to an
agreement in time for the Fall '02 deadline and with France having
taken the Channel the opportunity to finish England off quickly was
too good to pass up.



I was concerned that Austria was self-imploding after losing Bud in
'01, so sent a unit into Bohemia while France headed to Piedmont.
The longer we could keep Austria alive, the more of an advantage
we'd gain. Unfortunately Austria was now facing the combined might
of Russia, Turkey and Italy, and there was little I could do to
delay the inevitable.



The middle:

With Austria down to only one centre in Venice and what looked to be
a Juggernaut about to start rolling west, I helped Italy and France
disengage to enable Italy to focus on Turkey. England was far from
dead at this point but with French fleets in ENG and IRI, and an
army of mine in Wales it was simply a matter of time. Unfortunately
Russia decided that I was a threat and moved into position.



Spring '03 was the low point for me, failing to stop England's
counter-attack or Russia's manoeuvring into position. Fall '03 on
the other hand went swimmingly as I prevented Russia from picking up
any centres and picked up two of England's home centres thanks to
France vacating Liverpool for me. Now seems to be as good a point as
any to acknowledge that without France being such a great ally I
would not have solo'd this game. Giving up Liverpool was the correct
thing to do from an F-G perspective, but with Russia and England
both assaulting me I'd not have faulted France for taking the
opportunity to turn on me.



The beginning of the end:

Meanwhile in 1903 Turkey had turned on Russia. I'd done my part to
encourage this by helping Turkey pick up Serbia. With Russia failing
to make headway against me he was forced into two disbands and I
came to an agreement with him that he would disband northern units
and in return I'd assist him with his counter-attack on Turkey as
well as with the English nuisance in Scandinavia. This was a no win
situation for Russia: he was in a two-front war against large powers
and so had to choose which war to give up. As I had agreed not to
attack him initially, as well as to provide him support, I think
Gerry made the correct choice. Indeed, with the exception of Norway
which had been surrendered to me by agreement, I didn't take a
Russian centre until 1906 - three years after the German-Soviet pact
had been made, and during this time helped Russia pick up three
centres from Turkey.



1904 set the tone for the rest of the game as England was all but
eliminated, France moved against Italy, and Russia and Turkey were
fighting a war neither of them would win. I picked up a couple more
centres in 1905 and in 1906 moved into position to attack Russia.



The end:

With Russia engaged against Turkey and France and Italy
fighting it was a case of choosing which centres to pick up to make
18. I made sure to keep units in position should I-R-T manage to
turn France against me, but despite a belated attempt to form an
alliance against me, I had the momentum to solo.



General comments

I'll thank Eric again for being GM. None of us have much spare time
so I always appreciate when someone gives some of theirs up to
enable the rest of us to play.



Thanks also to everyone else for the game. It was a pleasure playing
with you all and hope you enjoyed it too. I really hope the
first-timers to DC amongst us enjoyed it and will try again.



I look forward to reading your perspectives on the game, but as I
said before, no obligation!



All the best for those of you in the Winter Blitz (my game looks to
be a 5-way draw at the moment after Russia and England NMR'd
themselves out of any chance).



Gareth



On 03/02/2012 21:11, Eric Palmer wrote:

So we end the game just shy of Fall 1908.
 
The end of game proposal (concession to Germany) has
passed, with all five surviving countries voting in favor.
 
Congratulations to Gareth (aka MagDox) for his victory.
 
Thanks for everyone staying on top of things, playing hard,
and putting up with my first outing as GM of an email game.
 
I'm looking forward to reading each of your end of game
statements. Feel free to reply all at your leisure. Please don't
send anything you wouldn't want me to post to the site (or
specify what you want to keep off the record).
 
Thanks again, and for those of you participating in the
Winter Blitz, hopefully I'll see you there soon! Regardless, I
hope to see all of you around DC.
 
All the best,
 
Eric Palmer (politesociety)
GM, DC397
 
 
 
 

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DC 397 - End of game statement - ruler462   (Feb 11, 2012, 11:24 am)
Hey everyone,

I had sent this to Eric only thinking he was going to collect and sent all EOG's at once but maybe I misunderstood. When I saw Gareth's EOG come in I thought I'd send mine out to everyone. I have not read Gareth's yet.



Thanks Eric for GMing and congratulations to Gareth on his solo .

It's funny how quickly things can change . After the first 2 years I was rehearsing my victory speech ,  the next couple of years I was practicing my "there's nothing wrong with a draw" speech, after that I was desperately hoping I'd last till the end






 Rather than give a historical summary of the game I thought I'd make 3 points

The turning point came in ( if I recall) F03 where England and I had coordinated a set of moves to put Germany (Gareth) on the defensive. Unfortunately  Bret changed his mind at the last minute and  went with a different option. I don't think it was meant as a stab against me , he just thought it was the better thing to do. Unfortunately he did not tell me and as a result Germany gained a unit rather than lost one . Turned the entire complexion of the game around , at least in the north. I lost 2 units, England lost 1 and Germany gained 1 . Turkey (Michael)  had stabbed me the season before but I thought I could hold him off in the south if I made gains up north, sadly that did not happen.


The second point is the serious lack of communication in  this game .  Gareth and I did communicate  regularly as well as Michael and I ( at least at the start) . England never communicated with me until F02 I think, despite me sending messages to him . Whoever heard of England and Russia not exchanging anything until F02 ! France and I communicated once, I sent a second message and received no reply and that was it until the end of the game. Matt, I really don't know why you were playing . I know you've apologized for your lack of communication but really...sending me suggestions 3 hours before the deadline without hearing from you all  week  does not cut it . I did offer to proxy for you as maybe you were having real life issues. To continue the way you did made no sense.  Diplomacy is all about writing and receiving messages and trying to make sense out of what other players are saying and not saying.  If you aren't doing that then you aren't playing Diplomacy.

Lastly , I don't want to take anything from Gareth's solo but I don't think France did much or tried very hard to stop you .  If I was France I would have been writing and urging everyone  to take a stand against that big bully Germany . I heard nothing until the very end , and to Matt's credit he did initiate it, where France was supposed to move against Germany but did the opposite. It's all rather suspicious...I'm really hoping France did do their best , I'm just not seeing it . 
Congrats again Gareth !
Gerry










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DC397: Germany's EOG Statement - MagDox   (Feb 11, 2012, 7:37 am)
Hi everyone,



I've not had EOG's from anyone yet, so maybe when you receive mine
it'll kick-start things? Don't feel obligated though, I simply think
it can be interesting to read and can help answer the unanswered
questions.



The beginning:

Things started out straightforwardly. I agreed with France to keep
Burgundy demilitaried, with Austria and Italy to keep Tyrolia
unoccupied, and with Russia to keep Prussia and Silesia empty. Even
better, everyone followed through on these agreements. After England
and France bounced in the Channel I managed to pick up three builds
in 1901 for a good start. My single mistake in '01 being to let
Russia into Sweden: I did not expect Russia to pick up Budapest!



I continued to head north in 1902, moving into SKA and Den so that I
was in a position to turn either east or west depending on how
things worked out. In the end Bret and I weren't able to come to an
agreement in time for the Fall '02 deadline and with France having
taken the Channel the opportunity to finish England off quickly was
too good to pass up.



I was concerned that Austria was self-imploding after losing Bud in
'01, so sent a unit into Bohemia while France headed to Piedmont.
The longer we could keep Austria alive, the more of an advantage
we'd gain. Unfortunately Austria was now facing the combined might
of Russia, Turkey and Italy, and there was little I could do to
delay the inevitable.



The middle:

With Austria down to only one centre in Venice and what looked to be
a Juggernaut about to start rolling west, I helped Italy and France
disengage to enable Italy to focus on Turkey. England was far from
dead at this point but with French fleets in ENG and IRI, and an
army of mine in Wales it was simply a matter of time. Unfortunately
Russia decided that I was a threat and moved into position.



Spring '03 was the low point for me, failing to stop England's
counter-attack or Russia's manoeuvring into position. Fall '03 on
the other hand went swimmingly as I prevented Russia from picking up
any centres and picked up two of England's home centres thanks to
France vacating Liverpool for me. Now seems to be as good a point as
any to acknowledge that without France being such a great ally I
would not have solo'd this game. Giving up Liverpool was the correct
thing to do from an F-G perspective, but with Russia and England
both assaulting me I'd not have faulted France for taking the
opportunity to turn on me.



The beginning of the end:

Meanwhile in 1903 Turkey had turned on Russia. I'd done my part to
encourage this by helping Turkey pick up Serbia. With Russia failing
to make headway against me he was forced into two disbands and I
came to an agreement with him that he would disband northern units
and in return I'd assist him with his counter-attack on Turkey as
well as with the English nuisance in Scandinavia. This was a no win
situation for Russia: he was in a two-front war against large powers
and so had to choose which war to give up. As I had agreed not to
attack him initially, as well as to provide him support, I think
Gerry made the correct choice. Indeed, with the exception of Norway
which had been surrendered to me by agreement, I didn't take a
Russian centre until 1906 - three years after the German-Soviet pact
had been made, and during this time helped Russia pick up three
centres from Turkey.



1904 set the tone for the rest of the game as England was all but
eliminated, France moved against Italy, and Russia and Turkey were
fighting a war neither of them would win. I picked up a couple more
centres in 1905 and in 1906 moved into position to attack Russia.



The end:

With Russia engaged against Turkey and France and Italy
fighting it was a case of choosing which centres to pick up to make
18. I made sure to keep units in position should I-R-T manage to
turn France against me, but despite a belated attempt to form an
alliance against me, I had the momentum to solo.



General comments

I'll thank Eric again for being GM. None of us have much spare time
so I always appreciate when someone gives some of theirs up to
enable the rest of us to play.



Thanks also to everyone else for the game. It was a pleasure playing
with you all and hope you enjoyed it too. I really hope the
first-timers to DC amongst us enjoyed it and will try again.



I look forward to reading your perspectives on the game, but as I
said before, no obligation!



All the best for those of you in the Winter Blitz (my game looks to
be a 5-way draw at the moment after Russia and England NMR'd
themselves out of any chance).



Gareth



On 03/02/2012 21:11, Eric Palmer wrote:

So we end the game just shy of Fall 1908.
 
The end of game proposal (concession to Germany) has
passed, with all five surviving countries voting in favor.
 
Congratulations to Gareth (aka MagDox) for his victory.
 
Thanks for everyone staying on top of things, playing hard,
and putting up with my first outing as GM of an email game.
 
I'm looking forward to reading each of your end of game
statements. Feel free to reply all at your leisure. Please don't
send anything you wouldn't want me to post to the site (or
specify what you want to keep off the record).
 
Thanks again, and for those of you participating in the
Winter Blitz, hopefully I'll see you there soon! Regardless, I
hope to see all of you around DC.
 
All the best,
 
Eric Palmer (politesociety)
GM, DC397
 
 
 
 

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DC397 End of Game - Germany with the Solo - MagDox   (Feb 04, 2012, 10:19 am)
Hi everyone,



Let me just thank Eric for being GM. It may not be a difficult job
but it does require a fair amount of time, and I'm very
appreciative.



Thanks to everyone else for the game. It was a pleasure playing with
you all and hope to meet you again. I hope the first-timers to DC
amongst us will come back with some more experience and try again.



I'll write an EOG in the next couple of days and send it to you all.
I look forward to reading your perspectives on the game too.



Best,



Gareth



On 03/02/2012 21:11, Eric Palmer wrote:

So we end the game just shy of Fall 1908.
 
The end of game proposal (concession to Germany) has
passed, with all five surviving countries voting in favor.
 
Congratulations to Gareth (aka MagDox) for his victory.
 
Thanks for everyone staying on top of things, playing hard,
and putting up with my first outing as GM of an email game.
 
I'm looking forward to reading each of your end of game
statements. Feel free to reply all at your leisure. Please don't
send anything you wouldn't want me to post to the site (or
specify what you want to keep off the record).
 
Thanks again, and for those of you participating in the
Winter Blitz, hopefully I'll see you there soon! Regardless, I
hope to see all of you around DC.
 
All the best,
 
Eric Palmer (politesociety)
GM, DC397
 
 
 
 

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DC397 End of Game - Germany with the Solo - politesociety   (Feb 03, 2012, 3:11 pm)
So we end the game just shy of Fall 1908.
 
The end of game proposal (concession to Germany) has passed, with all five surviving countries voting in favor.
 
Congratulations to Gareth (aka MagDox) for his victory.
 
Thanks for everyone staying on top of things, playing hard, and putting up with my first outing as GM of an email game.
 
I'm looking forward to reading each of your end of game statements. Feel free to reply all at your leisure. Please don't send anything you wouldn't want me to post to the site (or specify what you want to keep off the record).
 
Thanks again, and for those of you participating in the Winter Blitz, hopefully I'll see you there soon! Regardless, I hope to see all of you around DC.
 
All the best,
 
Eric Palmer (politesociety)
GM, DC397
 
 
 
 

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DC397 End of Game - Germany with the Solo (dc397) MagDox Feb 04, 10:19 am
Hi everyone,



Let me just thank Eric for being GM. It may not be a difficult job
but it does require a fair amount of time, and I'm very
appreciative.



Thanks to everyone else for the game. It was a pleasure playing with
you all and hope to meet you again. I hope the first-timers to DC
amongst us will come back with some more experience and try again.



I'll write an EOG in the next couple of days and send it to you all.
I look forward to reading your perspectives on the game too.



Best,



Gareth



On 03/02/2012 21:11, Eric Palmer wrote:

So we end the game just shy of Fall 1908.
 
The end of game proposal (concession to Germany) has
passed, with all five surviving countries voting in favor.
 
Congratulations to Gareth (aka MagDox) for his victory.
 
Thanks for everyone staying on top of things, playing hard,
and putting up with my first outing as GM of an email game.
 
I'm looking forward to reading each of your end of game
statements. Feel free to reply all at your leisure. Please don't
send anything you wouldn't want me to post to the site (or
specify what you want to keep off the record).
 
Thanks again, and for those of you participating in the
Winter Blitz, hopefully I'll see you there soon! Regardless, I
hope to see all of you around DC.
 
All the best,
 
Eric Palmer (politesociety)
GM, DC397
 
 
 
 
DC397 - Spring 1908 Results - politesociety   (Feb 02, 2012, 12:38 pm)
Summer 1908
 
Turkey retreats from Ion to Aeg (no RP on this PC, sorry, so no pic/dpy)
 
ALSO:
 
End of game proposal - Solo concession to Germany.
 
(All surviving players can vote. See also the section in house rules on end of game proposals. http://www.diplomaticcorp.com/info.php?type=houserules)
 
The deadline for EOG votes is the same as Fall orders (Tomorrow, Friday Feb. 3 at 10 PM GMT). Not voting is considered a "No" vote.
 
ALSO (this is important) If I have five votes in favor prior to tomorrow at 10 PM, I may end the game at that time, and not wait until Friday night to adjudicate.
 
Thanks,
 
Eric

 
On Wed, Feb 1, 2012 at 9:23 PM, Eric Palmer <eric.s.palmer(at)gmail.com> wrote:

Hi all, 


I'd like to move up our deadline for Fall 1908 orders if there are no objections, to Friday, Feb. 3 at 10 PM GMT


There is only one retreat, and that's Turkey from Ion. Mike, just shoot me a quick note tonight please, if you could (Aeg or Eas)


Again, the site is updated, so you can go through the storied history of DC397 at your leisure.


Regards,


Eric


France: 
A Apulia Hold
F Edinburgh Hold
F Naples Supports F Tunis - Ionian Sea
A Paris Hold
A Piedmont Hold
A Spain - Tunis
F Tunis - Ionian Sea
F Tyrrhenian Sea Supports F Tunis - Ionian Sea
A Venice Hold
F Western Mediterranean Convoys A Spain - Tunis


Germany: 
A Berlin - Munich
A Bohemia Supports A Silesia - Galicia
A Budapest Supports A Trieste
F Gulf of Bothnia - Sweden
F Holland - Helgoland Bight
A Kiel - Holland
A Livonia - Warsaw
A Moscow - Sevastopol (*Fails*)
A Munich - Tyrolia
F North Sea Hold
A Norway Hold
A Silesia - Galicia
A Trieste Supports A Munich - Tyrolia
A Vienna Supports A Budapest
A Warsaw - Ukraine


Italy: 
A Serbia - Albania


Russia: 
A Rumania Supports A Serbia (*Ordered to Move*)
A Sevastopol - Moscow (*Fails*)


Turkey: 
F Adriatic Sea Hold
A Bulgaria Hold
A Constantinople Hold
A Greece Hold
F Ionian Sea Hold (*Dislodged*)

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DC397 - Spring 1908 Results - politesociety   (Feb 01, 2012, 8:23 pm)
Hi all, 
I'd like to move up our deadline for Fall 1908 orders if there are no objections, to Friday, Feb. 3 at 10 PM GMT
There is only one retreat, and that's Turkey from Ion. Mike, just shoot me a quick note tonight please, if you could (Aeg or Eas)

Again, the site is updated, so you can go through the storied history of DC397 at your leisure.
Regards,
Eric
France: 
A Apulia HoldF Edinburgh HoldF Naples Supports F Tunis - Ionian SeaA Paris HoldA Piedmont HoldA Spain - TunisF Tunis - Ionian SeaF Tyrrhenian Sea Supports F Tunis - Ionian Sea
A Venice HoldF Western Mediterranean Convoys A Spain - Tunis
Germany: A Berlin - MunichA Bohemia Supports A Silesia - GaliciaA Budapest Supports A Trieste
F Gulf of Bothnia - SwedenF Holland - Helgoland BightA Kiel - HollandA Livonia - WarsawA Moscow - Sevastopol (*Fails*)A Munich - TyroliaF North Sea Hold
A Norway HoldA Silesia - GaliciaA Trieste Supports A Munich - TyroliaA Vienna Supports A BudapestA Warsaw - Ukraine
Italy: A Serbia - Albania

Russia: A Rumania Supports A Serbia (*Ordered to Move*)A Sevastopol - Moscow (*Fails*)
Turkey: F Adriatic Sea HoldA Bulgaria Hold
A Constantinople HoldA Greece HoldF Ionian Sea Hold (*Dislodged*)

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DC397 - Spring 1908 Results (dc397) politesociety Feb 02, 12:38 pm
Summer 1908
 
Turkey retreats from Ion to Aeg (no RP on this PC, sorry, so no pic/dpy)
 
ALSO:
 
End of game proposal - Solo concession to Germany.
 
(All surviving players can vote. See also the section in house rules on end of game proposals. http://www.diplomaticcorp.com/info.php?type=houserules)
 
The deadline for EOG votes is the same as Fall orders (Tomorrow, Friday Feb. 3 at 10 PM GMT). Not voting is considered a "No" vote.
 
ALSO (this is important) If I have five votes in favor prior to tomorrow at 10 PM, I may end the game at that time, and not wait until Friday night to adjudicate.
 
Thanks,
 
Eric

 
On Wed, Feb 1, 2012 at 9:23 PM, Eric Palmer <eric.s.palmer(at)gmail.com> wrote:

Hi all, 


I'd like to move up our deadline for Fall 1908 orders if there are no objections, to Friday, Feb. 3 at 10 PM GMT


There is only one retreat, and that's Turkey from Ion. Mike, just shoot me a quick note tonight please, if you could (Aeg or Eas)


Again, the site is updated, so you can go through the storied history of DC397 at your leisure.


Regards,


Eric


France: 
A Apulia Hold
F Edinburgh Hold
F Naples Supports F Tunis - Ionian Sea
A Paris Hold
A Piedmont Hold
A Spain - Tunis
F Tunis - Ionian Sea
F Tyrrhenian Sea Supports F Tunis - Ionian Sea
A Venice Hold
F Western Mediterranean Convoys A Spain - Tunis


Germany: 
A Berlin - Munich
A Bohemia Supports A Silesia - Galicia
A Budapest Supports A Trieste
F Gulf of Bothnia - Sweden
F Holland - Helgoland Bight
A Kiel - Holland
A Livonia - Warsaw
A Moscow - Sevastopol (*Fails*)
A Munich - Tyrolia
F North Sea Hold
A Norway Hold
A Silesia - Galicia
A Trieste Supports A Munich - Tyrolia
A Vienna Supports A Budapest
A Warsaw - Ukraine


Italy: 
A Serbia - Albania


Russia: 
A Rumania Supports A Serbia (*Ordered to Move*)
A Sevastopol - Moscow (*Fails*)


Turkey: 
F Adriatic Sea Hold
A Bulgaria Hold
A Constantinople Hold
A Greece Hold
F Ionian Sea Hold (*Dislodged*)
DC397 Fall 1907 Results - politesociety   (Feb 01, 2012, 8:30 am)
Just a quick reminder that Spring 1908 orders are due in just under 8 hours.
 
Also, I had some time the other day and updated the diplomaticcorp game page. I'll do better at that when I GM future games (and maybe I'll write commentary as well, who knows?)
 
thanks
 
Eric


On Wed, Jan 25, 2012 at 11:00 PM, Eric Palmer <eric.s.palmer(at)gmail.com> wrote:

And so we enter endgame... I've kept my comments to myself for the most part during this game, and I'll keep doing that now, but let me just say, this could get interesting.


Only one retreat, and since there was only one place to go (Moscow to Sevastopol) I went ahead and moved the unit. Gerry, let me know if you want something different.


Adjustments due Friday 27 Jan 2012 10 PM GMT (or sooner)


France Build 1
Germany Build 3
Italy Remove 1
Russia Remove 2


Spring 1908 orders due Wednesday 1 Feb 2012 10 PM GMT


France: 
F Edinburgh Hold
A Gascony - Spain
F Gulf of Lyon - Tyrrhenian Sea
F Mid-Atlantic Ocean - Western Mediterranean
F Naples Hold
A Piedmont Hold
A Rome - Apulia
F Tunis Supports F Gulf of Lyon - Tyrrhenian Sea
A Venice Supports A Trieste


Germany: 
F Baltic Sea - Gulf of Bothnia
A Budapest Supports A Rumania - Serbia (*Cut*)
F Holland Hold
A Livonia Supports A St Petersburg - Moscow
A Munich - Bohemia
F North Sea Hold
A Norway Hold
A Prussia - Warsaw
A Rumania - Serbia (*Disbanded*)
A Silesia Supports A Prussia - Warsaw
A St Petersburg - Moscow
A Trieste Supports A Rumania - Serbia (*Cut*)
A Tyrolia - Vienna


Italy: 
A Albania - Trieste (*Fails*)
A Serbia Supports A Albania - Trieste (*Cut*)


Russia: 
A Galicia - Budapest (*Fails*)
A Moscow - Warsaw (*Dislodged*)
A Sevastopol - Rumania
A Ukraine Supports A Sevastopol - Rumania


Turkey: 
F Aegean Sea - Ionian Sea
A Bulgaria Supports A Sevastopol - Rumania
A Constantinople Supports A Bulgaria
A Greece Supports A Bulgaria
F Ionian Sea - Adriatic Sea

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DC397 Fall 1907 Results - politesociety   (Jan 27, 2012, 8:37 pm)
Spring 1908 orders due Wednesday 1 Feb 2012 10 PM GMT

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DC397 Fall 1907 Results - gizmo8204   (Jan 25, 2012, 10:48 pm)
Well James, everyone,
I don't know what you get out of permitting to go for the solo. Thank you Michael for supporting the resistance, even though I don't think that I had a reply to that string of emails. Gareth, well played. Good luck in the Blitz!

Also, Gareth, I was thinking perhaps of joining that Dark Ages game. Any chance of an alliance there in the right circumstances?
Matt
Also, remove A Albania
Thanks!

From: Eric Palmer <eric.s.palmer(at)gmail.com>
To: dc397(at)diplomaticcorp.com; Michael Sims <mike(at)fuzzylogicllc.com>; bret_pollack(at)hotmail.com; flexpoint1(at)gmail.com; gizmo8204(at)yahoo.com; jsfyfield(at)gmail.com; gnr.griffiths(at)gmail.com; james_32(at)bigpond.com; Gerry Bayer <starhop8(at)gmail.com>
Sent: Wednesday, January 25, 2012 11:00 PM
Subject: DC397 Fall 1907 Results


And so we enter endgame... I've kept my comments to myself for the most part during this game, and I'll keep doing that now, but let me just say, this could get interesting.
Only one retreat, and since there was only one place to go (Moscow to Sevastopol) I went ahead and moved the unit. Gerry, let me know if you want something different.

Adjustments due Friday 27 Jan 2012 10 PM GMT (or sooner)
France Build 1
Germany Build 3Italy Remove 1Russia Remove 2
Spring 1908 orders due Wednesday 1 Feb 2012 10 PM GMT



France: F Edinburgh HoldA Gascony - SpainF Gulf of Lyon - Tyrrhenian SeaF Mid-Atlantic Ocean - Western MediterraneanF Naples HoldA Piedmont Hold


A Rome - ApuliaF Tunis Supports F Gulf of Lyon - Tyrrhenian SeaA Venice Supports A Trieste
Germany: F Baltic Sea - Gulf of BothniaA Budapest Supports A Rumania - Serbia (*Cut*)


F Holland HoldA Livonia Supports A St Petersburg - MoscowA Munich - BohemiaF North Sea HoldA Norway HoldA Prussia - WarsawA Rumania - Serbia (*Disbanded*)


A Silesia Supports A Prussia - WarsawA St Petersburg - MoscowA Trieste Supports A Rumania - Serbia (*Cut*)A Tyrolia - Vienna
Italy: A Albania - Trieste (*Fails*)


A Serbia Supports A Albania - Trieste (*Cut*)
Russia: A Galicia - Budapest (*Fails*)A Moscow - Warsaw (*Dislodged*)A Sevastopol - RumaniaA Ukraine Supports A Sevastopol - Rumania



Turkey: F Aegean Sea - Ionian SeaA Bulgaria Supports A Sevastopol - RumaniaA Constantinople Supports A BulgariaA Greece Supports A BulgariaF Ionian Sea - Adriatic Sea

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DC397 Fall 1907 Results - politesociety   (Jan 25, 2012, 10:00 pm)
And so we enter endgame... I've kept my comments to myself for the most part during this game, and I'll keep doing that now, but let me just say, this could get interesting.
Only one retreat, and since there was only one place to go (Moscow to Sevastopol) I went ahead and moved the unit. Gerry, let me know if you want something different.

Adjustments due Friday 27 Jan 2012 10 PM GMT (or sooner)
France Build 1
Germany Build 3Italy Remove 1Russia Remove 2
Spring 1908 orders due Wednesday 1 Feb 2012 10 PM GMT


France: F Edinburgh HoldA Gascony - SpainF Gulf of Lyon - Tyrrhenian SeaF Mid-Atlantic Ocean - Western MediterraneanF Naples HoldA Piedmont Hold

A Rome - ApuliaF Tunis Supports F Gulf of Lyon - Tyrrhenian SeaA Venice Supports A Trieste
Germany: F Baltic Sea - Gulf of BothniaA Budapest Supports A Rumania - Serbia (*Cut*)

F Holland HoldA Livonia Supports A St Petersburg - MoscowA Munich - BohemiaF North Sea HoldA Norway HoldA Prussia - WarsawA Rumania - Serbia (*Disbanded*)

A Silesia Supports A Prussia - WarsawA St Petersburg - MoscowA Trieste Supports A Rumania - Serbia (*Cut*)A Tyrolia - Vienna
Italy: A Albania - Trieste (*Fails*)

A Serbia Supports A Albania - Trieste (*Cut*)
Russia: A Galicia - Budapest (*Fails*)A Moscow - Warsaw (*Dislodged*)A Sevastopol - RumaniaA Ukraine Supports A Sevastopol - Rumania


Turkey: F Aegean Sea - Ionian SeaA Bulgaria Supports A Sevastopol - RumaniaA Constantinople Supports A BulgariaA Greece Supports A BulgariaF Ionian Sea - Adriatic Sea

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DC397 Fall 1907 Results (dc397) gizmo8204 Jan 25, 10:48 pm
Well James, everyone,
I don't know what you get out of permitting to go for the solo. Thank you Michael for supporting the resistance, even though I don't think that I had a reply to that string of emails. Gareth, well played. Good luck in the Blitz!

Also, Gareth, I was thinking perhaps of joining that Dark Ages game. Any chance of an alliance there in the right circumstances?
Matt
Also, remove A Albania
Thanks!

From: Eric Palmer <eric.s.palmer(at)gmail.com>
To: dc397(at)diplomaticcorp.com; Michael Sims <mike(at)fuzzylogicllc.com>; bret_pollack(at)hotmail.com; flexpoint1(at)gmail.com; gizmo8204(at)yahoo.com; jsfyfield(at)gmail.com; gnr.griffiths(at)gmail.com; james_32(at)bigpond.com; Gerry Bayer <starhop8(at)gmail.com>
Sent: Wednesday, January 25, 2012 11:00 PM
Subject: DC397 Fall 1907 Results


And so we enter endgame... I've kept my comments to myself for the most part during this game, and I'll keep doing that now, but let me just say, this could get interesting.
Only one retreat, and since there was only one place to go (Moscow to Sevastopol) I went ahead and moved the unit. Gerry, let me know if you want something different.

Adjustments due Friday 27 Jan 2012 10 PM GMT (or sooner)
France Build 1
Germany Build 3Italy Remove 1Russia Remove 2
Spring 1908 orders due Wednesday 1 Feb 2012 10 PM GMT



France: F Edinburgh HoldA Gascony - SpainF Gulf of Lyon - Tyrrhenian SeaF Mid-Atlantic Ocean - Western MediterraneanF Naples HoldA Piedmont Hold


A Rome - ApuliaF Tunis Supports F Gulf of Lyon - Tyrrhenian SeaA Venice Supports A Trieste
Germany: F Baltic Sea - Gulf of BothniaA Budapest Supports A Rumania - Serbia (*Cut*)


F Holland HoldA Livonia Supports A St Petersburg - MoscowA Munich - BohemiaF North Sea HoldA Norway HoldA Prussia - WarsawA Rumania - Serbia (*Disbanded*)


A Silesia Supports A Prussia - WarsawA St Petersburg - MoscowA Trieste Supports A Rumania - Serbia (*Cut*)A Tyrolia - Vienna
Italy: A Albania - Trieste (*Fails*)


A Serbia Supports A Albania - Trieste (*Cut*)
Russia: A Galicia - Budapest (*Fails*)A Moscow - Warsaw (*Dislodged*)A Sevastopol - RumaniaA Ukraine Supports A Sevastopol - Rumania



Turkey: F Aegean Sea - Ionian SeaA Bulgaria Supports A Sevastopol - RumaniaA Constantinople Supports A BulgariaA Greece Supports A BulgariaF Ionian Sea - Adriatic Sea
DC397 Fall 1907 Results (dc397) politesociety Jan 27, 08:37 pm
Spring 1908 orders due Wednesday 1 Feb 2012 10 PM GMT
DC397 Fall 1907 Results (dc397) politesociety Feb 01, 08:30 am
Just a quick reminder that Spring 1908 orders are due in just under 8 hours.
 
Also, I had some time the other day and updated the diplomaticcorp game page. I'll do better at that when I GM future games (and maybe I'll write commentary as well, who knows?)
 
thanks
 
Eric


On Wed, Jan 25, 2012 at 11:00 PM, Eric Palmer <eric.s.palmer(at)gmail.com> wrote:

And so we enter endgame... I've kept my comments to myself for the most part during this game, and I'll keep doing that now, but let me just say, this could get interesting.


Only one retreat, and since there was only one place to go (Moscow to Sevastopol) I went ahead and moved the unit. Gerry, let me know if you want something different.


Adjustments due Friday 27 Jan 2012 10 PM GMT (or sooner)


France Build 1
Germany Build 3
Italy Remove 1
Russia Remove 2


Spring 1908 orders due Wednesday 1 Feb 2012 10 PM GMT


France: 
F Edinburgh Hold
A Gascony - Spain
F Gulf of Lyon - Tyrrhenian Sea
F Mid-Atlantic Ocean - Western Mediterranean
F Naples Hold
A Piedmont Hold
A Rome - Apulia
F Tunis Supports F Gulf of Lyon - Tyrrhenian Sea
A Venice Supports A Trieste


Germany: 
F Baltic Sea - Gulf of Bothnia
A Budapest Supports A Rumania - Serbia (*Cut*)
F Holland Hold
A Livonia Supports A St Petersburg - Moscow
A Munich - Bohemia
F North Sea Hold
A Norway Hold
A Prussia - Warsaw
A Rumania - Serbia (*Disbanded*)
A Silesia Supports A Prussia - Warsaw
A St Petersburg - Moscow
A Trieste Supports A Rumania - Serbia (*Cut*)
A Tyrolia - Vienna


Italy: 
A Albania - Trieste (*Fails*)
A Serbia Supports A Albania - Trieste (*Cut*)


Russia: 
A Galicia - Budapest (*Fails*)
A Moscow - Warsaw (*Dislodged*)
A Sevastopol - Rumania
A Ukraine Supports A Sevastopol - Rumania


Turkey: 
F Aegean Sea - Ionian Sea
A Bulgaria Supports A Sevastopol - Rumania
A Constantinople Supports A Bulgaria
A Greece Supports A Bulgaria
F Ionian Sea - Adriatic Sea
DC397 - Orders for Fall 1907 due today! - politesociety   (Jan 25, 2012, 9:04 am)
Just a friendly reminder that Fall 1907 orders for DC397 are due today at 5 PM ET (10 PM GMT).
 
Eric

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DC397 Summer 1907 Results - politesociety   (Jan 21, 2012, 3:55 pm)
Rumania retreats to Sevastopol. 
Fall 1907 orders due Wednesday January 25 at 10 PM GMT. 


On Fri, Jan 20, 2012 at 11:28 PM, Eric Palmer <eric.s.palmer(at)gmail.com> wrote:

Only one retreat, Russia from Rumania, and only Sevastopol is open (unless you want an OTB - let me know)

I think we can get back on schedule. Fall 1907 orders due Wednesday January 25 at 10 PM GMT.

France: F Brest - Mid-Atlantic Ocean
F Edinburgh HoldF Marseilles - Gulf of Lyon
F Naples HoldA Paris - GasconyA Piedmont Hold
A Rome HoldF Tunis HoldA Venice Supports A Vienna - Trieste

Germany: F Baltic Sea Convoys A Kiel - Livonia
A Bohemia - SilesiaA Budapest Supports A Galicia - Rumania
A Galicia - RumaniaA Kiel - LivoniaA Munich Supports A Bohemia - Silesia
F North Sea - HollandF Norway - North Sea
A Prussia Supports A Kiel - LivoniaA St Petersburg Supports A Kiel - Livonia
A Sweden - NorwayA Tyrolia Supports A Vienna - TriesteA Vienna - Trieste

Italy: A Albania Supports A Trieste - Serbia
A Trieste - Serbia
Russia: 
A Moscow HoldA Rumania Supports A Warsaw - Galicia (*Dislodged*)
A Ukraine Supports A Warsaw - GaliciaA Warsaw - Galicia

Turkey: A Bulgaria Supports A Serbia - Greece
F Constantinople - Aegean SeaF Eastern Mediterranean - Ionian Sea
A Serbia - GreeceA Smyrna - Constantinople

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DC397 Spring 1907 Results - politesociety   (Jan 20, 2012, 10:28 pm)
Only one retreat, Russia from Rumania, and only Sevastopol is open (unless you want an OTB - let me know)

I think we can get back on schedule. Fall 1907 orders due Wednesday January 25 at 10 PM GMT.

France: F Brest - Mid-Atlantic Ocean
F Edinburgh HoldF Marseilles - Gulf of Lyon
F Naples HoldA Paris - GasconyA Piedmont Hold
A Rome HoldF Tunis HoldA Venice Supports A Vienna - Trieste

Germany: F Baltic Sea Convoys A Kiel - Livonia
A Bohemia - SilesiaA Budapest Supports A Galicia - Rumania
A Galicia - RumaniaA Kiel - LivoniaA Munich Supports A Bohemia - Silesia
F North Sea - HollandF Norway - North Sea
A Prussia Supports A Kiel - LivoniaA St Petersburg Supports A Kiel - Livonia
A Sweden - NorwayA Tyrolia Supports A Vienna - TriesteA Vienna - Trieste

Italy: A Albania Supports A Trieste - Serbia
A Trieste - Serbia
Russia: 
A Moscow HoldA Rumania Supports A Warsaw - Galicia (*Dislodged*)
A Ukraine Supports A Warsaw - GaliciaA Warsaw - Galicia

Turkey: A Bulgaria Supports A Serbia - Greece
F Constantinople - Aegean SeaF Eastern Mediterranean - Ionian Sea
A Serbia - GreeceA Smyrna - Constantinople

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DC397 Adjustments - SPRING 1907 DUE FRIDAY! - politesociety   (Jan 17, 2012, 7:11 am)

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DC397 Fall1906 Results (dc397) politesociety Jan 12, 06:28 pm
DC397 Spring 1906 Results - politesociety   (Jan 09, 2012, 4:46 pm)

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DC397 Spring 1906 Extension - Now due Jan 4. - politesociety   (Jan 04, 2012, 8:32 am)
Today is the day! Get your orders in! (you have 12 hours-or so)


On Wed, Dec 28, 2011 at 4:42 PM, Eric Palmer <eric.s.palmer(at)gmail.com> wrote:


Good afternoon (as the case may be...),




I hope everyone had a good Christmas and that all is well with you and yours.




I've received a request for a general extension for this turn, and I agree to it. Sorry for not being more on top of things and making this extension sooner.





SPRING 1906 ORDERS ARE DUE WEDNESDAY JANUARY 4, 2012 AT 10 PM GMT




Happy New Year Everybody!





Eric

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DC397 Spring 1906 Extension - Now due Jan 4. - politesociety   (Dec 28, 2011, 3:42 pm)
Good afternoon (as the case may be...),




I hope everyone had a good Christmas and that all is well with you and yours.




I've received a request for a general extension for this turn, and I agree to it. Sorry for not being more on top of things and making this extension sooner.





SPRING 1906 ORDERS ARE DUE WEDNESDAY JANUARY 4, 2012 AT 10 PM GMT




Happy New Year Everybody!




Eric

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DC397 Spring 1906 Extension - Now due Jan 4. (dc397) politesociety Jan 04, 08:32 am
Today is the day! Get your orders in! (you have 12 hours-or so)


On Wed, Dec 28, 2011 at 4:42 PM, Eric Palmer <eric.s.palmer(at)gmail.com> wrote:


Good afternoon (as the case may be...),




I hope everyone had a good Christmas and that all is well with you and yours.




I've received a request for a general extension for this turn, and I agree to it. Sorry for not being more on top of things and making this extension sooner.





SPRING 1906 ORDERS ARE DUE WEDNESDAY JANUARY 4, 2012 AT 10 PM GMT




Happy New Year Everybody!





Eric
DC397 - Winter 1905 Adjustments - bret_pollack   (Dec 23, 2011, 11:05 am)
In fact the British soldiers have changed out of their uniforms and are on one last task for the king...

 

FIND AND VERIFY THE EXISTANCE OF SANTA CLAUS.

 

The deposed King of England would appreciate all standing powers leaving our men to their task.  We will gladdly share any info we find.
 

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DC397 - Winter 1905 Adjustments - politesociety   (Dec 23, 2011, 8:32 am)

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DC397 - Winter 1905 Adjustments (dc397) bret_pollack Dec 23, 11:05 am
In fact the British soldiers have changed out of their uniforms and are on one last task for the king...

 

FIND AND VERIFY THE EXISTANCE OF SANTA CLAUS.

 

The deposed King of England would appreciate all standing powers leaving our men to their task.  We will gladdly share any info we find.
 
DC397 - Fall 1905 Results - bret_pollack   (Dec 23, 2011, 7:29 am)
Thanks all for the game.  Sorry for my failures in communication as the game started.
 

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DC397 - Fall 1905 Results - politesociety   (Dec 22, 2011, 2:11 pm)

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DC397 - Fall 1905 Results (dc397) bret_pollack Dec 23, 07:29 am
Thanks all for the game.  Sorry for my failures in communication as the game started.
 

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