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EOG for Attica dc162 - FlapJack   (Nov 29, 2008, 12:09 am)
Congrats to Scott and thanks to Mike--another great job GMing as always. I want to say that this game was a bit of disappointment for me in how it was played out by most of the players.

I also wasn't crazy about the map and layout of the powers but on thinking about it I think it was more how the players played this game than the game design. The map appeared to be too small and too overcrowded to me but on reflection I think it has more to do with the players lack of communication that kind of soured this game for me. Except for John and Scott, no other players wrote me regularly. Here is how the game went for me.

Trout and Jerry allied against me from day one so I never really had a chance to try and ally with either power. Jerry was especially non-communicative, basically telling me that I shouldn't bother trying to talk to him. Trout only talked to me after it was obvious that I would not be taken out. However, he would only ally with me if I returned his centers to him. Sorry, but that's not how Diplomacy works--its strictly a cash and carry business--you want me to do something for you, then you have to do something for me now. Trout's offer was return my centers and then he'd talk about our alliance.

Quite frankly I never believed that the Jerry/Trout alliance was ever over and until I saw a real fallout between those two I wasn't giving Trout anything--besides I was the aggrieved party, why should I give up centers because Trout's stab of me didn't work--that's hardly my fault?!?--I also never had more than five centers anyway, Trout should get them from Jerry, his ally. Jerry had more dots than both of us combined.

Scott, John and myself formed an early alliance as we realized that no one else was answering our notes. The alliance worked out well at first as John and Scott made progress while I was barely able to hold off J/T with their help. All was not well in our happy little alliance--Jerry started to take more than his fair share from Scott and myself gambling that we had little choice but stay with him.

John was certainly right in my case--I had no choice but to stay firmly allied and I couldn't reach Jerry in any case--Scott was between the two of us. However, Scott was not under the same threat as I was and he wasn't about to put up with John's new "two or three for me and one for you" philosophy regarding centers in this game. Scott attacked John and got the upper hand as John was distracted by other powers and Scott had me protecting his other flank.

Eventually with no diplomatic activity and a static front, I lost most of my interest in the game and Scott ran my armies for the last several years of the game. Trout you wrote me about stopping Scott but I had lost all interest in the game at that point and I really had no desire to survive as a measly little 4 or 5 center power when I felt Scott and John were the only players who played the game the way it was meant to be played. I gladly toadied to Scott and helped him win his solo.

What I found most disappointing is that no one else ever wrote me more than two notes other than Scott, John and Trout. A small mapped variant calls for lots of writing yet in this game there wasn't much at all. I've written at least twice as many notes already in dc201 "Mandate from Heaven" as I did in this much longer game dc162. If you don't want to write, you should not play in small variants then players should only play in the much larger variants like WWIV or imperial--there you don't need to write nearly as much.

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PS (dc162) EGS - FuzzyLogic   (Nov 26, 2008, 11:36 pm)
Only 1 End-Game-Statement from our players, and it’s from the guy who barely survived?

Mike, thank you very much. Elia EGS:

Congratulations to Scott for a well earned victory. And thank you very much to Mike for handling it all with humour and delicacy. It was a pleasure to meet the players of the game, especially Jerry and John. As the lone Brit among the seven chatting with you all made me want to visit the States even more. I was originally going to get to the US in November with work. That has changed and I'm now down in the Falkland Islands but I'll make it some time.

I personally played pretty badly, starting by failing to get a proper ally and then being squashed by the Ellsworths. They very honourably didn't for a moment take advantage of being brothers, it was just that I was in the way. From quite early on it was clear that I was going down and that the two main players were Scott and Jerry. In the mid game I was allied to Jerry, who helped me stay in the game. The game then slowed down a bit so I tried to get some movement by swapping sides to join Scott. Not very fair on Jerry bit it did dislodge the log jam. John's diplomacy in trying to stay alive was delightful. I didn't spend as much time on this game as I have on some in the past as work was pretty demanding for this period and I did not communicate as much as I should have. I didn't understand what Former Trout was trying to achieve by playing such a static game and I am sure that there were a number of other currents moving around that eluded me entirely.

In sum congratulations again to Scott, thank you to Mike, and thank you gentlemen for a good game.

Andrew

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EOG for Attica dc162 (dc162) FlapJack Nov 29, 12:09 am
Congrats to Scott and thanks to Mike--another great job GMing as always. I want to say that this game was a bit of disappointment for me in how it was played out by most of the players.

I also wasn't crazy about the map and layout of the powers but on thinking about it I think it was more how the players played this game than the game design. The map appeared to be too small and too overcrowded to me but on reflection I think it has more to do with the players lack of communication that kind of soured this game for me. Except for John and Scott, no other players wrote me regularly. Here is how the game went for me.

Trout and Jerry allied against me from day one so I never really had a chance to try and ally with either power. Jerry was especially non-communicative, basically telling me that I shouldn't bother trying to talk to him. Trout only talked to me after it was obvious that I would not be taken out. However, he would only ally with me if I returned his centers to him. Sorry, but that's not how Diplomacy works--its strictly a cash and carry business--you want me to do something for you, then you have to do something for me now. Trout's offer was return my centers and then he'd talk about our alliance.

Quite frankly I never believed that the Jerry/Trout alliance was ever over and until I saw a real fallout between those two I wasn't giving Trout anything--besides I was the aggrieved party, why should I give up centers because Trout's stab of me didn't work--that's hardly my fault?!?--I also never had more than five centers anyway, Trout should get them from Jerry, his ally. Jerry had more dots than both of us combined.

Scott, John and myself formed an early alliance as we realized that no one else was answering our notes. The alliance worked out well at first as John and Scott made progress while I was barely able to hold off J/T with their help. All was not well in our happy little alliance--Jerry started to take more than his fair share from Scott and myself gambling that we had little choice but stay with him.

John was certainly right in my case--I had no choice but to stay firmly allied and I couldn't reach Jerry in any case--Scott was between the two of us. However, Scott was not under the same threat as I was and he wasn't about to put up with John's new "two or three for me and one for you" philosophy regarding centers in this game. Scott attacked John and got the upper hand as John was distracted by other powers and Scott had me protecting his other flank.

Eventually with no diplomatic activity and a static front, I lost most of my interest in the game and Scott ran my armies for the last several years of the game. Trout you wrote me about stopping Scott but I had lost all interest in the game at that point and I really had no desire to survive as a measly little 4 or 5 center power when I felt Scott and John were the only players who played the game the way it was meant to be played. I gladly toadied to Scott and helped him win his solo.

What I found most disappointing is that no one else ever wrote me more than two notes other than Scott, John and Trout. A small mapped variant calls for lots of writing yet in this game there wasn't much at all. I've written at least twice as many notes already in dc201 "Mandate from Heaven" as I did in this much longer game dc162. If you don't want to write, you should not play in small variants then players should only play in the much larger variants like WWIV or imperial--there you don't need to write nearly as much.
PS f17 game end - SOLO! - FuzzyLogic   (Nov 07, 2008, 8:46 am)
Pythagorean Septem – game end: Solo!

That’s it, dc162 officially ends as Boeotia claims a 20 sc solo victory! Congratulations to Scott on his 3rd game completed in diplomaticcorp. Rounding out the survivals, we have…

Laconia: 8, Jerry Todd
Attica: 6, Jack McHugh
Elia: 4, Andrew Smith
Arcolia: 1, Former Trout

And eliminated were Dave and John Ellsworth.

This is only the 2nd time the Pericles variant has been played, and both times the game ended in a solo. Does that imply this game is disposed toward single winners over draws? Surely a 2 game history is hardly sufficient to base a statistical analysis, but 2 for 2 is pretty convincing. To see the relative performance of the countries over the two playings, see http://www.diplomaticcorp.com/country_stats.php?map=Pericles. We’ll have to run another game next year and see if the trend continues. (nudge nudge if any of you want to run a game of something, speak up – we’re always looking for good GMs)

I didn’t think this was going to be a solo with the north-south showdown that started forming toward mid game, and especially not for Boeotia, as the difficulty for that nation to get armies onto the peninsula seems to be a prime challenge. However 17 years (and 256 days) later, Scott pulled it off.

EGS (End-Game-Statements) are welcome and encouraged from all.
Enjoy,
-mike

ORDERS:

Boeotia:
A achaia Supports A locris - elis (*Cut*)
F athenae - mare mediterranea
A corinth Supports F epidaurus(nc) (*Cut*)
F cumae - italus sinus
F cypurissius sinus Supports F messeniacus sinus - pylos
A eleusis - megara
F epidaurus(nc) Supports F saronieus sinus
F laconicus sinus Supports F argulicus sinus - prastos (*Cut*)
A locris - elis (*Fails*)
F mare mediterranea - argulicus sinus
A pellea Supports A corinth
A phocis - locris (*Fails*)
F prian rhium Convoys A locris - elis
A rhegium - sicily
F rhodius sinus Supports F laconicus sinus
F saronieus sinus Supports F mare mediterranea - argulicus sinus
F sinus corinthiucus Supports A achaia
F zazynthus sinus Supports A locris - elis

Attica:
F argulicus sinus - prastos
F caria Hold
F ionia Hold
F messeniacus sinus - pylos

Arcolia:
A kaphyae - achaia (*Fails*)
A mycenae - corinth (*Fails*)

Laconia:
A dafni Supports A elis
A elis Supports A dafni (*Cut*)
A helos - sparta (*Bounce*)
A khora - messena (*Bounce*)
F laconia - laconicus sinus (*Fails*)
A pisatis Hold
F prastos - koidaunas
A pylos - messena (*Disbanded*)
F thuria - messeniacus sinus
A triphylia - ira (*Bounce*)

Elia:
A lycaion - ira (*Bounce*)
A tegea - sparta (*Bounce*)

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PS s17 retreats! - FuzzyLogic   (Nov 03, 2008, 3:06 pm)
Just like that we have our retreats:

Arcolia: A pellea - kaphyae
Laconia: disband A achaia

Fall 17 due this Friday, 10am Pacific!

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PS s17 results! - The Tragedy - FuzzyLogic   (Nov 03, 2008, 1:06 pm)
Tragedy – a Greek art form based on human suffering that offers its audience pleasure.

So it seems at least one person here is about to enjoy some pleasure, while perhaps the others are the audience? Or maybe we’re all suffering, and someone, somewhere, is enjoying all the pleasure. Or even yet we’ve all gotten the pleasure, and the only ones who suffered were those who missed out on the game as we all watch out from the inside. All very mysterious, but what isn’t a mystery is that Boeotia has picked up 2 more centers, and all that needs transpire is to hold them one turn for a win!

There are 2 dislodgements, but only one space they can both go – to Kaphyae. So let’s have a couple retreats, one by Trout, and one by Jerry… One or the other of you can go to Kap, the other must disband, for if you both go there you both disband.

RETREATS: By tomorrow 10am Pacific
FALL 17: By Friday 10am Pacific

I’ll adjudicate either turn whenever I have a full set.

Enjoy!
-mike

Boeotia:
F argulicus sinus - laconicus sinus
A corinth - pellea
F cumae Hold
F cypurissius sinus Supports F messeniacus sinus
F eleusis - athenae
F epidaurus(nc) Supports A megara - corinth
A helicon - phocis
A locris Hold
F mare mediterranea - marmora sinus (*Bounce*)
A megara - corinth
A patcae - achaia
F prian rhium Supports A patcae - achaia
A rhegium - italus sinus (*Fails*)
F rhodes - rhodius sinus
F saronieus sinus Supports F iria(sc) - argulicus sinus
F sinus corinthiucus Supports A corinth - pellea
A thebae - eleusis
F zazynthus sinus - elis (*Fails*)

Attica:
F caria Supports F rhodes - rhodius sinus
F ionia - marmora sinus (*Bounce*)
F iria(sc) - argulicus sinus
F messeniacus sinus Supports F argulicus sinus - laconicus sinus
(*Cut*)

Arcolia:
A mycenae - orchenenus (*Bounce*)
A pellea - orchenenus (*Dislodged*)

Laconia:
A achaia Supports A elis (*Dislodged*)
A dafni Supports A elis
A elis Supports A achaia (*Cut*)
A khora - messena (*Bounce*)
A koidaunas - helos
F laconia Supports F thuria - messeniacus sinus
A pisatis - protilae (*Bounce*)
F prastos - argulicus sinus (*Fails*)
A pylos - messena (*Bounce*)
F rhodius sinus - marmora sinus (*Disbanded*)
F thuria - messeniacus sinus (*Fails*)
A triphylia Supports A lycaion - pisatis (*Void*)

Elia:
A lycaion - protilae (*Bounce*)
A megalopolis - tegea

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PS w16 builds! - FuzzyLogic   (Oct 30, 2008, 10:11 am)
NEXT: Spring 17, due Monday 11/3, 10am Pacific!

There is an end-game proposal for a Boeotian solo on the table! Vote yay / nay with your spring orders. Requires 5 yes votes to pass.

Aetolia: Remove F elea
Boeotia: Build A helicon
Laconia: Build A koidaunas

Enjoy,
-mike

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PS f16 results! - Aetolians Last Stand - FuzzyLogic   (Oct 28, 2008, 3:25 pm)
After 16 hard fought years, we bid farewell to John the Aetolian. Only the second person eliminated this game!

7th place: Dave Ellsworth, Messenia
6th place: John Ellsworth, Aetolia

Who will be next?

BUILDS: Due Thu 10/30, 10am Pacific!

Aetolia: Remove F elea (*Eliminated*)
Boeotia: Build 1
Laconia: Build 1

**************************************************

ORDERS:

Aetolia:
F elea - rhegium (*Fails*)

Boeotia:
A arcania - patcae
F athenae - mare mediterranea
A corinth - orchenenus (*Bounce*)
F cypurissius sinus Supports F messeniacus sinus
F eleusis Supports A thebae - megara (*Fails*)
F epidaurus(nc) Supports A megara - corinth (*Fails*)
F italus sinus - cumae
A locris Hold
F mare mediterranea - argulicus sinus
A megara - corinth (*Fails*)
F prian rhium Convoys A arcania - patcae
A rhegium Hold
F rhodes Supports F rhodius sinus - caria
F saronieus sinus Supports F mare mediterranea - argulicus sinus
F sinus corinthiucus Supports A megara - corinth (*Fails*)
A thebae - megara (*Fails*)
F zazynthus sinus - elis (*Fails*)

Attica:
F ionia Supports F rhodius sinus - caria
F iria(sc) Supports F mare mediterranea - argulicus sinus
F messeniacus sinus Hold
F rhodius sinus - caria

Arcolia:
A mycenae - orchenenus (*Bounce*)
A pellea - orchenenus (*Bounce*)

Laconia:
A achaia Supports A pellea (*Ordered to Move*)
F caria Supports F laconicus sinus - rhodius sinus (*Disbanded*)
A dafni Supports A elis
A elis Supports A achaia (*Cut*)
A khora Supports A pylos
F laconia Supports F thuria - messeniacus sinus
F laconicus sinus - rhodius sinus
F prastos - argulicus sinus (*Fails*)
A protilae - pisatis
A pylos Supports A khora
F thuria - messeniacus sinus (*Fails*)
A triphylia Supports A protilae - pisatis

Elia:
A pisatis - lycaion
A sparta - megalopolis

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PS s16 results! - FuzzyLogic   (Oct 23, 2008, 9:09 am)
There is one retreat, but Laconian F Rho Sin can only go to Caria so we’ll just send it there and move along. If Laconia prefers OTB, let the group know by tomorrow, 10am Pacific.

A new .map file is attached for those playing along in RP. Mar Sin wasn’t connected to Rho Sin.

NEXT: Fall 16 due Tuesday 10/28, 10am Pacific!

**************************************************

Aetolia:
F rhegium - elea

Boeotia:
A arcania - achaia (*Fails*)
F athenae Supports F mare mediterranea
A corinth - pellea (*Fails*)
F cypurissius sinus Supports F messeniacus sinus
F eleusis - saronieus sinus (*Fails*)
F epidaurus(nc) Supports A megara - corinth
A helicon - thebae
F italus sinus Supports F cypurissius sinus
A locris Hold
F mare mediterranea Supports F saronieus sinus - mare
mediterranea (*Fails*)
A megara - corinth (*Bounce*)
F prian rhium Convoys A arcania - achaia
F rhodes Supports F marmora sinus - rhodius sinus
F saronieus sinus - argulicus sinus (*Bounce*)
A sicily - rhegium
F sinus corinthiucus Supports A corinth - pellea
F zazynthus sinus Supports A pisatis

Attica:
F ionia Supports F marmora sinus - rhodius sinus
F iria(sc) Supports F saronieus sinus - argulicus sinus
F marmora sinus - rhodius sinus
F messeniacus sinus Hold

Arcolia:
A mycenae Supports A pellea - corinth
A pellea - corinth (*Bounce*)

Laconia:
A achaia Supports A elis (*Cut*)
A dafni - pisatis (*Fails*)
A elis Supports A achaia
A ira - triphylia
F laconia Supports F thuria - messeniacus sinus (*Cut*)
F laconicus sinus Supports F prastos - argulicus sinus
A messena - khora
F prastos - argulicus sinus (*Bounce*)
A protilae Supports A dafni - pisatis
A pylos Hold
F rhodius sinus - marmora sinus (*Dislodged*)
F thuria - messeniacus sinus (*Fails*)

Elia:
A pisatis Hold
A sparta - laconia (*Fails*)

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PS w15 builds! - mike at southwall.com   (Oct 17, 2008, 6:40 pm)
RETREATS:

Boeotia: F rhodius sinus - rhodes
Laconia: A pisatis - protilae

BUILDS:

Boeotia: Build A helicon
Laconia: Remove A patcae

NEXT: Spring 16, due Tues 10/21, 10am Pacific!

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PS f15 results! - mike at southwall.com   (Oct 15, 2008, 12:48 pm)
2 retreats and 2 builds due Friday, 10am Pacific!

RETREATS:

Boeotia: F rhodius sinus
Laconia: A pisatis

BUILDS:

Boeotia: Build 1
Laconia: Remove 1

And just to be thorough, Attica should turn in a removal in case Boeotia retreats to Caria.
Elia came THIS close to getting a 3rd unit but can’t build due to having no home centers open.

**************************************************

ORDERS:

Aetolia:
F rhegium Hold

Boeotia:
A arcania - achaia (*Fails*)
F cypurissius sinus Supports F messeniacus sinus
F eleusis Supports F saronieus sinus
F epidaurus(nc) Supports A megara - corinth
F italus sinus Supports F cypurissius sinus
A locris Hold
F marathon - athenae
F mare mediterranea - argulicus sinus (*Bounce*)
A megara - corinth
F prian rhium Convoys A arcania - achaia
F rhodius sinus - laconicus sinus (*Dislodged*)
F saronieus sinus Supports A megara - corinth
A sicily - rhegium (*Fails*)
F sinus corinthiucus Supports A megara - corinth
A thebae - megara
F zazynthus sinus Supports A dafni - pisatis

Attica:
F ionia - rhodius sinus (*Fails*)
F iria(sc) Supports F epidaurus(nc)
F marmora sinus - mare mediterranea (*Fails*)
F mess sinus Supports F rhodius sinus - laconicus sinus (*Cut*)

Arcolia:
A mycenae Supports F epidaurus(nc) - corinth (*Void*)
A pellea Supports F epidaurus(nc) - corinth (*Void*)

Laconia:
A achaia Supports A ilia - dafni (*Fails*)
F argulicus sinus - rhodius sinus
A elis Supports A patcae
A ilia - dafni
A ira Hold
F laconia Supports F thuria - messeniacus sinus
F laconicus sinus Supports F argulicus sinus - rhodius sinus
A messena Supports A pylos
A patcae Supports A elis
A pisatis Supports A ilia - dafni (*Dislodged*)
F prastos - argulicus sinus (*Bounce*)
A pylos Hold
F thuria - messeniacus sinus (*Fails*)

Elia:
A dafni - pisatis
A megalopolis - sparta

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PS s15 results! (new) - former.trout   (Oct 10, 2008, 5:31 pm)
Ach!

Dismay!!

On Fri, Oct 10, 2008 at 3:59 PM, Michael Sims <mike(at)southwall.com ([email]mike(at)southwall.com[/email])> wrote:


Possibly to the dismay of the Arcolians, there was a revised set turned in by Boeotia that I missed! Corrected results below.

Draw is voted down.

Since we have no retreats, we'll skip merrily along to fall, which we'll set for Wednesday 10/15, 10am Pacific!

Aetolia:
F rhegium Hold

Boeotia:
A arcania - elis (*Fails*)
F athenae - eleusis
F corinth - epidaurus(nc)
F cypurissius sinus Supports F messeniacus sinus
F delion - marathon
A eleusis - megara
A helicon - thebae
F italus sinus Convoys A sicily - pisatis
A locris - pellea (*Fails*)
F mare mediterranea - argulicus sinus (*Fails*)
F prian rhium Convoys A arcania - elis
F rhodius sinus - laconicus sinus (*Fails*)
F saronieus sinus Supports F corinth - epidaurus(nc)
A sicily - pisatis (*Bounce*)
F sinus corinthiucus Convoys A locris - pellea
F zazynthus sinus Convoys A sicily - pisatis

Attica:
F ionia - rhodius sinus (*Fails*)
F iria(sc) Supports F corinth - epidaurus(nc)
F marmora sinus - mare mediterranea (*Fails*)
F messeniacus sinus Supports F rhodius sinus - laconicus sinus
(*Cut*)

Arcolia:
F epidaurus(nc) - corinth (*Disbanded*)
A orchenenus - mycenae
A pellea Supports F epidaurus(nc) - corinth (*Cut*)

Laconia:
A achaia Supports A pellea
F argulicus sinus Supports F laconicus sinus (*Cut*)
A elis Supports A patcae (*Cut*)
A ilia Supports A elis
A ira Hold
F laconia Supports F thuria - messeniacus sinus (*Fails*)
F laconicus sinus, no move received
A messena Supports A pylos
A patcae Supports A achaia
A pisatis Supports A ilia (*Cut*)
F prastos Supports F argulicus sinus
A pylos Hold
F thuria - messeniacus sinus (*Fails*)

Elia:
A arcadia - megalopolis
A dafni - pisatis (*Bounce*)


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PS s15 results! (new) - FuzzyLogic   (Oct 10, 2008, 4:59 pm)
Possibly to the dismay of the Arcolians, there was a revised set turned in by Boeotia that I missed! Corrected results below.

Draw is voted down.

Since we have no retreats, we’ll skip merrily along to fall, which we’ll set for Wednesday 10/15, 10am Pacific!

Aetolia:
F rhegium Hold

Boeotia:
A arcania - elis (*Fails*)
F athenae - eleusis
F corinth - epidaurus(nc)
F cypurissius sinus Supports F messeniacus sinus
F delion - marathon
A eleusis - megara
A helicon - thebae
F italus sinus Convoys A sicily - pisatis
A locris - pellea (*Fails*)
F mare mediterranea - argulicus sinus (*Fails*)
F prian rhium Convoys A arcania - elis
F rhodius sinus - laconicus sinus (*Fails*)
F saronieus sinus Supports F corinth - epidaurus(nc)
A sicily - pisatis (*Bounce*)
F sinus corinthiucus Convoys A locris - pellea
F zazynthus sinus Convoys A sicily - pisatis

Attica:
F ionia - rhodius sinus (*Fails*)
F iria(sc) Supports F corinth - epidaurus(nc)
F marmora sinus - mare mediterranea (*Fails*)
F messeniacus sinus Supports F rhodius sinus - laconicus sinus
(*Cut*)

Arcolia:
F epidaurus(nc) - corinth (*Disbanded*)
A orchenenus - mycenae
A pellea Supports F epidaurus(nc) - corinth (*Cut*)

Laconia:
A achaia Supports A pellea
F argulicus sinus Supports F laconicus sinus (*Cut*)
A elis Supports A patcae (*Cut*)
A ilia Supports A elis
A ira Hold
F laconia Supports F thuria - messeniacus sinus (*Fails*)
F laconicus sinus, no move received
A messena Supports A pylos
A patcae Supports A achaia
A pisatis Supports A ilia (*Cut*)
F prastos Supports F argulicus sinus
A pylos Hold
F thuria - messeniacus sinus (*Fails*)

Elia:
A arcadia - megalopolis
A dafni - pisatis (*Bounce*)

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PS s15 results! (new) (dc162) former.trout Oct 10, 05:31 pm
Ach!

Dismay!!

On Fri, Oct 10, 2008 at 3:59 PM, Michael Sims <mike(at)southwall.com ([email]mike(at)southwall.com[/email])> wrote:


Possibly to the dismay of the Arcolians, there was a revised set turned in by Boeotia that I missed! Corrected results below.

Draw is voted down.

Since we have no retreats, we'll skip merrily along to fall, which we'll set for Wednesday 10/15, 10am Pacific!

Aetolia:
F rhegium Hold

Boeotia:
A arcania - elis (*Fails*)
F athenae - eleusis
F corinth - epidaurus(nc)
F cypurissius sinus Supports F messeniacus sinus
F delion - marathon
A eleusis - megara
A helicon - thebae
F italus sinus Convoys A sicily - pisatis
A locris - pellea (*Fails*)
F mare mediterranea - argulicus sinus (*Fails*)
F prian rhium Convoys A arcania - elis
F rhodius sinus - laconicus sinus (*Fails*)
F saronieus sinus Supports F corinth - epidaurus(nc)
A sicily - pisatis (*Bounce*)
F sinus corinthiucus Convoys A locris - pellea
F zazynthus sinus Convoys A sicily - pisatis

Attica:
F ionia - rhodius sinus (*Fails*)
F iria(sc) Supports F corinth - epidaurus(nc)
F marmora sinus - mare mediterranea (*Fails*)
F messeniacus sinus Supports F rhodius sinus - laconicus sinus
(*Cut*)

Arcolia:
F epidaurus(nc) - corinth (*Disbanded*)
A orchenenus - mycenae
A pellea Supports F epidaurus(nc) - corinth (*Cut*)

Laconia:
A achaia Supports A pellea
F argulicus sinus Supports F laconicus sinus (*Cut*)
A elis Supports A patcae (*Cut*)
A ilia Supports A elis
A ira Hold
F laconia Supports F thuria - messeniacus sinus (*Fails*)
F laconicus sinus, no move received
A messena Supports A pylos
A patcae Supports A achaia
A pisatis Supports A ilia (*Cut*)
F prastos Supports F argulicus sinus
A pylos Hold
F thuria - messeniacus sinus (*Fails*)

Elia:
A arcadia - megalopolis
A dafni - pisatis (*Bounce*)


PS s15 results! - FuzzyLogic   (Oct 10, 2008, 3:02 pm)
Boeotians run into some speed bumps this turn as 3 convoys are attempted and 3 convoys fail…

Draw is voted down.

Since we have no retreats, we’ll skip merrily along to fall, which we’ll set for Wednesday 10/15, 10am Pacific!

Aetolia:
F rhegium Hold

Boeotia:
A arcania - elis (*Fails*)
F athenae - eleusis
F corinth - epidaurus(nc) (*Fails*)
F cypurissius sinus Supports F messeniacus sinus
F delion - marathon
A eleusis - megara
A helicon - thebae
F italus sinus Convoys A sicily - pisatis
A locris - corinth (*Bounce*)
F mare mediterranea - argulicus sinus (*Fails*)
F prian rhium Convoys A arcania - elis
F rhodius sinus - laconicus sinus (*Fails*)
F saronieus sinus Supports A locris - corinth
A sicily - pisatis (*Bounce*)
F sinus corinthiucus Convoys A locris - corinth
F zazynthus sinus Convoys A sicily - pisatis

Attica:
F ionia - rhodius sinus (*Fails*)
F iria(sc) Supports F corinth - epidaurus(nc)
F marmora sinus - mare mediterranea (*Fails*)
F messeniacus sinus Supports F rhodius sinus - laconicus sinus
(*Cut*)

Arcolia:
F epidaurus(nc) - corinth (*Bounce*)
A orchenenus - mycenae
A pellea Supports F epidaurus(nc) - corinth

Laconia:
A achaia Supports A pellea
F argulicus sinus Supports F laconicus sinus (*Cut*)
A elis Supports A patcae (*Cut*)
A ilia Supports A elis
A ira Hold
F laconia Supports F thuria - messeniacus sinus (*Fails*)
F laconicus sinus, no move received
A messena Supports A pylos
A patcae Supports A achaia
A pisatis Supports A ilia (*Cut*)
F prastos Supports F argulicus sinus
A pylos Hold
F thuria - messeniacus sinus (*Fails*)

Elia:
A arcadia - megalopolis
A dafni - pisatis (*Bounce*)

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PS f14 results! - FuzzyLogic   (Oct 02, 2008, 8:33 am)
RETREAT!

Attican F Arg Sin may retreat to Iria/sc or Argos.

BUILD!

Boeotia: Build 2
Attica: Build 0 or 1, pending retreat
Arcolia: Remove 0 or 1, pending retreat
Laconia: Remove 1
Elia: Build 1

RETREATS and BUILDS are all due tomorrow (Friday) 10am Pacific!

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ORDERS

Aetolia:
F rhegium Hold

Boeotia:
A arcania - elis (*Fails*)
F athenae - saronieus sinus
F corinth Supports F athenae - saronieus sinus (*Cut*)
F cypurissius sinus Supports F messeniacus sinus
A eleusis Hold
F italus sinus Supports F cypurissius sinus
A locris Hold
F marathon - athenae
F mare mediterranea Supports F athenae - saronieus sinus
F prian rhium Convoys A arcania - elis
F rhodius sinus - laconicus sinus (*Fails*)
A sicily - rhegium (*Fails*)
F sinus corinthiucus Supports F corinth
F zazynthus sinus Supports A arcania - elis

Attica:
F argulicus sinus - epidaurus(sc) (*Dislodged*)
F marmora sinus Hold
F messeniacus sinus Supports F rhodius sinus - laconicus sinus
(*Cut*)

Arcolia:
F epidaurus(nc) Supports A orchenenus - corinth (*Cut*)
A kaphyae Supports A pellea
A orchenenus - corinth (*Fails*)
A pellea Supports A orchenenus - corinth

Laconia:
A achaia Supports A pellea
F cyn. - argulicus sinus
A elis Supports A patcae (*Cut*)
F halieis Supports F cyn. - argulicus sinus
A ilia Supports A elis
A ira Hold
F laconia Supports F thuria - messeniacus sinus (*Fails*)
F laconicus sinus Supports F thuria - messeniacus sinus (*Cut*)
A messena Supports A pylos
A patcae Supports A achaia
A pisatis Supports A ilia
F prastos Supports F cyn. - argulicus sinus
A pylos Supports A messena
F thuria - messeniacus sinus (*Fails*)

Elia:
A protilae - arcadia

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PS s13 results! - FuzzyLogic   (Sep 12, 2008, 11:52 am)
Results are out, there are 2 retreats:

Laconia may retreat ACH to KAP or PRO.
Attica may retreat LAC SIN to HELOS.

RETREATS, due Monday 9/15, 10am Pacific
FALL 13, due Thursday 9/18, 10am Pacific

There is another fix to the map file to make this turn work. If you’re playing along in RP be sure to put the new map file in your variant folder.

Enjoy,
-mike

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Aetolia:
F rhegium Hold

Boeotia:
A arcania Hold
F delion - marathon
A elea - cumae
A elis - achaia
F helicon - sinus corinthiucus
F italus sinus - cypurissius sinus
F mare mediterranea Supports F saronieus sinus
F megara(ec) Supports F saronieus sinus (*Cut*)
A opus - phocis
F prian rhium Supports A elis - achaia
F rhodius sinus - argulicus sinus (*Fails*)
F sicily - italus sinus
A thebae - eleusis
F zazynthus sinus - ilia (*Fails*)

Attica:
F athenae Supports F saronieus sinus
F laconicus sinus - laconia (*Dislodged*)
F messeniacus sinus Supports F laconicus sinus - laconia (*Cut*)
F saronieus sinus Supports F rhodius sinus - argulicus sinus
(*Cut*)

Arcolia:
A corinth - megara (*Fails*)
F epidaurus(nc) Supports F iria(nc) - saronieus sinus
F iria(nc) - saronieus sinus (*Fails*)
A mycenae - corinth (*Fails*)
A pellea Supports A mycenae - corinth (*Fails*)

Laconia:
A achaia Supports A protilae - elis (*Dislodged*)
F argulicus sinus Supports F iria(nc) - saronieus sinus (*Cut*)
F halieis, no move received
A ilia Supports A protilae - elis (*Cut*)
A ira Hold
F koidaunas - laconicus sinus
F laconia Supports F thuria - messeniacus sinus (*Fails*)
A messena Hold
A patcae Supports A protilae - elis
A pisatis Supports A ilia
F prastos Supports F koidaunas - laconicus sinus
A protilae - elis
A pylos Hold
F thuria - messeniacus sinus (*Fails*)

Elia:
A dafni Hold

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PS s10 results! - FuzzyLogic   (Jul 30, 2008, 7:42 pm)
NEXT: Fall 10, due in one week – Wednesday August 6, 10am Pacific!

Aetolia:
F mare adriaticum - italus sinus (*Fails*)

Boeotia:
A eleusis Hold
F ithaca sinus - mare adriaticum (*Fails*)
A locris Hold
F mare mediterranea - argulicus sinus (*Bounce*)
F marmora sinus Supports F rhodius sinus
F megara(ec) Supports F saronieus sinus
F prian rhium - zazynthus sinus (*Bounce*)
A proschium Hold
F sinus corinthiucus - prian rhium (*Fails*)
A thermium Hold
F zazynthus sinus - cypurissius sinus

Attica:
F athenae Supports F saronieus sinus
F messeniacus sinus Supports F zaz sinus - cypurissius sinus
F rhodius sinus Supports F mare med - argulicus sinus
F saronieus sinus Supports F mare med - argulicus sinus (*Cut*)

Arcolia:
A corinth Supports A pellea (*Cut*)
F epidaurus(nc) Supports F iria(nc) - saronieus sinus
F iria(nc) - saronieus sinus (*Fails*)
A mycenae Supports A corinth
A pellea Supports A corinth

Laconia:
A achaia Supports A elis
F argulicus sinus - rhodius sinus (*Fails*)
F cumae - italus sinus
F cyn. Supports F prastos - argulicus sinus
A dafni - ilia
A elis Supports A dafni - ilia
A kaphyae Supports A achaia
F koidaunas - helos
F laconicus sinus Supports F argulicus sinus - rhodius sinus
A messena - pylos
A orchenenus - corinth (*Fails*)
F pisatis - zazynthus sinus (*Bounce*)
F prastos - argulicus sinus (*Bounce*)
A protilae - pisatis (*Fails*)
A sparta - thuria

Elia:
A patcae Supports A achaia
F rhegium Supports F cumae - italus sinus

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PS f06 results! Dont forget... - FuzzyLogic   (Jun 02, 2008, 2:45 pm)
Note one error in the adjudication:
F athenae Supports F saronieus sinus (*Void*)
Should be:
F athenae - F saronieus sinus (*Fails*)
No change to the map, but noting for correctness.
-mike




From: Michael Sims
Sent: Monday, June 02, 2008 10:02 AM
Subject: PS f06 results! Dont forget...


That’s right, don’t forget to lock up when you go off to battle, or a Messenian might slip in the back door!

RETREATS:

Aetolia:
A pisatis can go to Ilia or Daf
A protilae can only go to Daf

Arcolia:
A Achaia can go to Pat or Pel

BUILDS:

Aetolia: Remove 2
Boeotia: Build 1
Arcolia: Build 1
Laconia: Build 2

RETREATS and BUILDS due together, Wednesday 10am Pacific!

Enjoy,
-mike

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Aetolia:
A calydon - callium (*Fails*)
A elis - achaia
F locris Hold (*Disbanded*)
A pisatis Hold (*Dislodged*)
F prian rhium Supports A elis - achaia
A protilae - kaphyae (*Dislodged*)
A thermium Supports A calydon - callium
F triphylia - cypurissius sinus (*Fails*)

Boeotia:
A anticyra Supports A callium
F athenae Supports F saronieus sinus (*Void*)
A callium Supports F sinus corinthiucus - locris (*Cut*)
F delion - euboeius sinus
A doris Supports F sinus corinthiucus - locris
F helicon - sinus corinthiucus
A phocis Supports F sinus corinthiucus - locris
F sinus corinthiucus - locris

Attica:
F argulicus sinus Supports F rhodius sinus - laconicus sinus
F mare mediterranea - athenae (*Fails*)
F rhodius sinus - laconicus sinus
F saronieus sinus - iria(nc) (*Bounce*)

Arcolia:
A achaia - elis (*Dislodged*)
F epidaurus(nc) - iria(nc) (*Bounce*)
A megara Supports A mycenae - corinth
A mycenae - corinth

Laconia:
A cyn. - sparta
F cypurissius sinus Convoys A ira - pisatis
A ira - pisatis
A kaphyae Supports A achaia - protilae (*Void*)
A lycaion Supports A ira - pisatis
A maniana Supports A arcadia - protilae
A megalopolis - ira
F messeniacus sinus - laconicus sinus (*Fails*)

Messenia:
F zazynthus sinus - elis

Elia:
A arcadia - protilae
F mare adriaticum - nicopolicus sinus

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PS s03 results - The Arcolian Shuffle - FuzzyLogic   (Apr 04, 2008, 11:06 pm)
Just like the 86 Bears, the Arcolians flex their defensive might - denying every move of Boeotia, sacking the future capitol Athens, and coining the phrase "Da Arcolians"... little knowing that nearly 3 millennium later a football stadium will be built on the other side of the globe to mirror the Parthenon in their honor... and a MUCH more catchy phrase would result.


No retreats, so we move on to Fall: 1 week - Friday 4/11, 2pm Pacific! Remember prelims folks… great habit to get into.

Enjoy,
-mike


Aetolia:
F arcania - nicopolicus sinus
F calydon - locris
A elis - ilia
A locris - elis
A patcae Supports A locris - elis
F prian rhium Convoys A locris - elis

Boeotia:
A achaia - pellea (*Fails*)
F delion - marathon
F euboea occidental - eub. oriental
A helicon - thebae
A phocis - corinth (*Bounce*)
F sinus corinthiucus Convoys A phocis - corinth
A thebae - eleusis

Attica:
F argulicus sinus - iria(sc)
F caria Supports F marmora sinus - rhodius sinus (*Void*)
F ionia Supports F caria
F marmora sinus, no move received
A megara Supports A phocis - corinth

Arcolia:
A corinth - athenae
A orchenenus Supports A pellea - corinth
A pellea - corinth (*Bounce*)
F rhodes - caria (*Fails*)
F saronieus sinus Convoys A corinth - athenae

Laconia:
A cyn. - tegea
A maniana Supports A tegea - megalopolis
F prastos Supports F rhodius sinus - laconicus sinus (*Fails*)
F rhodius sinus - laconicus sinus
A sparta - thuria
A tegea - megalopolis

Messenia:
F ira - cypurissius sinus
A lycaion - megalopolis (*Fails*)
A messena - ira
F pisatis Hold

Elia:
A megalopolis - arcadia
A protilae - dafni
F sicily - rhegium

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Again I'm not feeling the love.... - FlapJack   (Mar 14, 2008, 5:14 pm)
psst...there are also three centers in Italy that are complete unoccupied if anyone is interested....are my centers really that much more valuable? is there a rule about my units being double strength that i am missing????

seriously fellas...what's the problem? is it my breath? is it because my mom dresses me funny?

get back to me on this...

the unloved atticans

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PS (dc162) f05 results! - test_gm   (Sep 13, 2007, 12:00 am)
2 retreats and lots of builds for Friday! 10am Pacific.

Messenia hangs in there by a thread… and the fates may be on their side for had a couple orders been switched it could have been the end for them!

RETREATS:

Aetolia: A locris – calydon (*Only move possible*)
Messenia: A ira – khora (*May choose Tri instead*)

BUILDS:

Aetolia: Build 1
Boeotia: Build 1
Attica: Build 1
Laconia: Build 1
Messenia: Remove 2

ORDERS:

Aetolia:
F cypurissius sinus - pisatis
A dafni Supports A pisatis - protilae
A locris Supports F sinus corinthiucus - phocis (*Dislodged*)
A lycaion - megalopolis (*Fails*)
A pisatis - protilae
F prian rhium - achaia (*Bounce*)
F sinus corinthiucus - phocis
A thebae Supports A eleusis - delion (*Disbanded*)

Boeotia:
A anticyra - callium
F athenae Supports F saronieus sinus (*Void*)
F delion Hold
A doris Supports A phocis - locris
F helicon - thebae
A opus Supports F helicon - thebae
A phocis - locris

Attica:
A corinth - pellea (*Disbanded*)
F iria(sc) - epidaurus(sc)
F rhodes - rhodius sinus
F rhodius sinus - marmora sinus
F saronieus sinus - megara(ec) (*Bounce*)

Arcolia:
A eleusis - megara (*Bounce*)
A epidaurus - mycenae
F megara(ec) - corinth
A pellea - achaia (*Bounce*)

Laconia:
F argulicus sinus - saronieus sinus (*Fails*)
F laconicus sinus - messeniacus sinus
A maniana - arcadia (*Fails*)
A megalopolis Supports A maniana - arcadia (*Cut*)
A messena - ira
F messeniacus sinus - pylos
A orchenenus Supports F megara(ec) - corinth
A thuria Supports A messena - ira

Messenia:
A ira Supports A lycaion - megalopolis (*Dislodged*)
A laconia - sparta
F pylos - cypurissius sinus

Elia:
A arcadia - protilae (*Fails*)
F rhegium - mare adriaticum

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PS (dc162) s05 results! - test_gm   (Sep 13, 2007, 12:00 am)
Quoting the great Philoctetes, “Saddle up, kid. We're going to Thebes!”

And so it was done… The Aetolians board their ships off the coast of Achaia and ride across the S.C. to the ancient megatropolis

On other fronts, the Atticans are stuck in the mud for yet another turn, the Laconians make more progress against Messenia, and the little Italians via no moves at all survive yet another year! Cumae to remain neutral for five years!

Remember 2 consecutive NMR’s would mean Civil Disorder, and out of the game!
Prelims, prelims, prelims! Send prelims NOW, so you don’t forget later!

RETREATS:

Messenia: A thuria – laconia (only retreat possible)

ORDERS:

Aetolia:
A achaia - thebae
A dafni - protilae (*Bounce*)
A ilia - pisatis
A locris - callium (*Bounce*)
F prian rhium - locris (*Fails*)
A protilae - lycaion
F sinus corinthiucus Convoys A achaia - thebae
F zazynthus sinus - cypurissius sinus

Boeotia:
F athenae Supports F saronieus sinus
A corsea - anticyra
A delion - opus
A doris - callium (*Bounce*)
F helicon Supports A phocis
F marathon - delion
A phocis Supports F helicon

Attica:
A corinth - pellea (*Fails*)
F iria(sc) Supports F rhodius sinus - argulicus sinus (*Cut*)
F rhodes - rhodius sinus (*Fails*)
F rhodius sinus - argulicus sinus (*Fails*)
F saronieus sin Supports F rhodius sin - argulicus sin (*Cut*)

Arcolia:
A eleusis - megara (*Fails*)
A epidaurus - iria (*Fails*)
F megara(ec) - saronieus sinus (*Fails*)
A pellea - corinth (*Fails*)

Laconia:
A argos - orchenenus
F argulicus sinus Supports A epidaurus - iria (*Cut*)
F laconicus sinus Supports F argulicus sinus
A maniana - protilae (*Bounce*)
A megalopolis Supports A sparta - thuria
A messena Supports A sparta - thuria
F messeniacus sinus Supports A messena
A sparta - thuria

Messenia:
A khora - ira
F pylos Supports A thuria - messena
A thuria - messena (*Dislodged*)

Elia:
A arcadia, no move received
F rhegium, no move received

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