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GGS 1264 / DC110 - 3-way draw proposal & deadl... - test_gm   (Sep 13, 2007, 12:00 am)
No to 3 way. Rupert does not deserve to be recognized above China, Japan and to a lesser extent, myself.

No to DIAS with England. Again, sorry Stephen... blame Rupert.

We either fight to stop the Solo or we vote yes to the Solo. Period.


----- Original Message ----
From: Former Trout <former.trout(at)gmail.com>
To: Cat23 1200 List <Cat23-1200(at)yahoogroups.com>; dc110 <DC110(at)diplomaticcorp.com>
Cc: David E Watson <dipknight(at)comcast.net>; Jerry Todd <sgttodd(at)mainecav.org>; Jim Atkins <savwa4(at)comcast.net>; Lee Taylor <leewarrentaylor(at)yahoo.co.uk>; Mike Hoffman <mrh(at)panix.com>; Paolo Sforza <sforzapaolo(at)yahoo.com>; Randolph <ruffhaus8(at)aol.com>; Rob Ackerley <rob_ackerley(at)yahoo.ca>; Rob Bristol <rBristol(at)cargojet.com>; Rob Bristol <rbristol(at)cogeco.ca>; Rudi Van Hal <rvhgames(at)xs4all.nl>; Rupert Armstrong <writetorupert(at)gmail.com>; Steve Lytton <stevelytton(at)hotmail.com>; Suzanne Castagne <sucastag(at)wanadoo.fr>; Ted Morley <ee_morley(at)hotmail.com>; Ted Morley <Ted.Morley(at)sen.ca.gov>
Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2008 9:24:17 AM
Subject: GGS 1264 / DC110 - 3-way draw proposal & deadline extension

Heya folks,

Two items for this morning.

1. A 3-way Dutch/US/French draw has been proposed. Please have your yay or nay votes in with your Spring 1878 orders.
2. A one day extension has been requested for Spring 1878. Revised deadline will be set for Tuesday, September 23rd (11:59 PM GMT).

Cheers!

Train Engineer Trout





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dc186 Summer results - test_gm   (Sep 13, 2007, 12:00 am)
We have an End Game Proposal on the board: Russia/Turkey/Holland draw

Votes are due with the Fall orders.

Reference map:

http://notasb.home.comcast.net/~notasb/186/186ref.gif

Map:

http://notasb.home.comcast.net/~notasb/186/18676Summer.gif

Deadline:

Fall '76 and Votes are due Monday Sept 22nd 8 AM CDST (GMT -5) 1300 GMT

Retreats:

China:
F Shanghai - Nanchang
A Tongking - Canton

France:
A Bangkok - Cambodia
F Malaya - Andaman Sea

Russia:
A Karachi - Rajputana
A Kashmir - Afghanistan
disband A Persia

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“Pleasure and pain, though directly opposite are contrived to be
constant companions.”

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dc187 winter 03 results - test_gm   (Sep 13, 2007, 12:00 am)
Builds and disbands are in and some clarity comes to Europe.

Spring 04 deadline will be noon on 24 September.

Hamish

Adjustment orders for Winter of 1903. (dc187)

Austria: Remove A Vienna.
England: Remove F Clyde.
France: Build F Brest.
Germany: Build A Berlin.
Italy: Build F Naples.
Russia: Build A Warsaw.
Russia: Build F St Petersburg(sc).
Turkey: Build F Smyrna.
Turkey: Build A Ankara.

Unit locations:

Austria: F Apulia, A Piedmont, A Rome.
England: F Edinburgh.
France: F Brest, F Liverpool, A London, A Marseilles, F Mid-Atlantic
Ocean,
F Portugal, A Yorkshire.
Germany: A Berlin, F Denmark, A Holland, F Kiel, F North Sea, A Silesia.
Italy: F Naples, F Spain(sc), F Western Mediterranean.
Russia: A Budapest, A Finland, A Galicia, F Norway, A Rumania, F St
Petersburg(sc), A Warsaw.
Turkey: A Ankara, A Bulgaria, F Constantinople, F Ionian Sea, A
Serbia, F
Smyrna, F Trieste.

Ownership of supply centers:

Austria: Rome, Venice, Vienna.
England: Edinburgh.
France: Belgium, Brest, Liverpool, London, Marseilles, Paris, Portugal.
Germany: Berlin, Denmark, Holland, Kiel, Munich, Sweden.
Italy: Naples, Spain, Tunis.
Russia: Budapest, Moscow, Norway, Rumania, Sevastopol, St Petersburg,
Warsaw.
Turkey: Ankara, Bulgaria, Constantinople, Greece, Serbia, Smyrna,
Trieste.

The next phase of dc187 will be Movement for Spring of 1904.

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AADF - Draw Proposal - test_gm   (Sep 13, 2007, 12:00 am)
Ancient Art of… Draws… in Fog?
There is a proposed 4-way DIAS – vote with spring orders, yay / nay.
Enjoy,
-mike

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dc193 ~ Manifested Destiny - test_gm   (Sep 13, 2007, 12:00 am)
I just want to let everyone know that I didn't propose the Spanish Solo. Whoever it was (I'm guessing Sims) is just trying to unite the world against poor little me.

Steve

--- On Tue, 9/16/08, Gerald Todd <sgttodd(at)mainecav.org> wrote:

From: Gerald Todd
Subject: dc193 ~ Manifested Destiny

Date: Tuesday, September 16, 2008, 6:39 AM

[quote:02b691f443]Oh, I forgot...

There's a proposal for a Spanish solo on the table.

Vote with your next orders please.

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dc193 ~ Manifested Destiny - test_gm   (Sep 13, 2007, 12:00 am)
Well, yeahSmile

Seriously, who would propose their own solo anyway? If there's any doubt, the soloer will just walk over the required centers and call it done. And if the remaining players haven't called a draw yet, there's almost surely someone who will vote down a solo proposal.

China votes yes on the Spanish solo, just for kicks.

Andrew

On Wed, Sep 17, 2008 at 2:27 PM, Steve Caponigri <scaponigyahoo.com ([email]scaponigyahoo.com[/email])> wrote:
[quote] I just want to let everyone know that I didn't propose the Spanish Solo. Whoever it was (I'm guessing Sims) is just trying to unite the world against poor little me.

Steve

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dc193 ~ Manifested Destiny - test_gm   (Sep 13, 2007, 12:00 am)
I’m guessing Britain, based on his moves. There isn’t much other point to them right?
France votes yes too.
-mike

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dc193 ~ Manifested Destiny - test_gm   (Sep 13, 2007, 12:00 am)
What. The. Hell!!

This is a play-test - not a roll-over and die-fest. Blargh!


Ottomans vote a loud and public NO! No to this solo, or any other end-game proposal!


Trout

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dc193 ~ Manifested Destiny - test_gm   (Sep 13, 2007, 12:00 am)
Oh you evil genius...

I still publicly pound my chest and vote NO...


(But Jerry - I've got a secret email in the works to you on this one...) =P


T.

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DC173 OK Computer - Spring 1909 - Love Is Noise - test_gm   (Sep 13, 2007, 12:00 am)
Folks of DC-173,

The lines draw tighter with the Spring moves, the divisions clearly drawn. Are things locked up? Only time will tell...


No retreats are required so we'll move right on into the Fall 1909 turn. Deadline will be set for Wednesday, September 24th (11:59 PM GMT).


Cheers all!


Trout




Movement results for Spring of 1909. (DC173 09 SPR)


Austria: A Apulia Supports A Venice.
Austria: A Budapest Supports A Vienna.
Austria: F Greece Supports F Ionian Sea.
Austria: A Rome Hold.
Austria: A Rumania Hold.
Austria: A Sevastopol Hold.
Austria: A Trieste Supports A Vienna.
Austria: A Venice Hold.
Austria: A Vienna Hold.


England: F English Channel Convoys A London - Gascony.
England: F Gulf of Lyon Supports F Western Mediterranean - Tyrrhenian Sea.
England: A Livonia Supports A St Petersburg - Moscow.
England: A London - Gascony.
England: A Piedmont Supports F Tuscany.
England: F Portugal - Spain(sc).
England: A St Petersburg - Moscow.
England: F Tunis Supports F Western Mediterranean - Tyrrhenian Sea.
England: F Tuscany Hold.
England: F Western Mediterranean - Tyrrhenian Sea.


Germany: F Baltic Sea Hold.
Germany: A Berlin - Silesia.
Germany: A Burgundy - Munich.
Germany: F Gulf of Bothnia Hold.
Germany: F Mid-Atlantic Ocean Convoys A London - Gascony.
Germany: A Moscow - Ukraine.
Germany: A Munich - Tyrolia.
Germany: A Prussia - Warsaw.
Germany: A Silesia - Bohemia.
Germany: A Warsaw - Galicia.


Turkey: F Adriatic Sea Supports A Venice.
Turkey: A Armenia Supports A Sevastopol.
Turkey: A Constantinople - Bulgaria.
Turkey: F Ionian Sea Hold.
Turkey: F Naples Supports A Rome.


Unit locations:


Austria: A Apulia, A Budapest, F Greece, A Rome, A Rumania, A Sevastopol, A
Trieste, A Venice, A Vienna.
England: F English Channel, A Gascony, F Gulf of Lyon, A Livonia, A Moscow, A
Piedmont, F Spain(sc), F Tunis, F Tuscany, F Tyrrhenian Sea.
Germany: F Baltic Sea, A Bohemia, A Galicia, F Gulf of Bothnia, F
Mid-Atlantic Ocean, A Munich, A Silesia, A Tyrolia, A Ukraine, A
Warsaw.
Turkey: F Adriatic Sea, A Armenia, A Bulgaria, F Ionian Sea, F Naples.


Ownership of supply centers:


Austria: Budapest, Greece, Rome, Rumania, Serbia, Sevastopol, Trieste,
Venice, Vienna.
England: Brest, Edinburgh, Liverpool, London, Marseilles, Norway, Portugal,
Spain, St Petersburg, Tunis.
Germany: Belgium, Berlin, Denmark, Holland, Kiel, Moscow, Munich, Paris,
Sweden, Warsaw.
Turkey: Ankara, Bulgaria, Constantinople, Naples, Smyrna.




NEXT DEADLINE: FALL 1909 ORDERS DUE WEDNESDAY, SEPTEMBER 24TH (11:59 PM GMT)!!

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dc193 ~ Manifested Destiny - test_gm   (Sep 13, 2007, 12:00 am)
Deadline for Fall 1844: September 22, 2359 UTC

Retreat orders for Spring of 1844.

France: F Java Sea - Java.

Russia: F Greenland Sea, no move received (*Disbanded*).

Unit locations:

Austria: A Bosnia, F Adriatic Sea.

Britain: F Dublin, A Maldives, A Natal, A Boston, A Norway, F Abyssinia,
A Kasmir, A Punjab, F Washington DC, A Montreal, F Maritimes, F
Greenland Sea, F North Sea, F English Channel, F Gulf of Maine, F Bay of
Florida, F Arabian Sea, F N.E.Indian Ocean, F Timor Sea, F Java Sea.

China: A Chongqing, F Edo, A Hue, A Xining, A Liaoning, A Yunnan, F
China Sea, F Eastern Sea, F Sea of Japan, F Sea of Okhotsk, F Izu Sea, F
Bismark Sea.

France: A Venice, F Loango, F Marseilles, F Antilles, F Society Islands,
F Holland, F Java, F Denmark, A Kiel, F Rome(wc), A Metz, F Piedmont, A
Switzerland, A Biafra, F Sapporo, F Marshalls, A French Guiana, A
Venezuela, F Amazon Basin, F Horn of Africa, F N.W.Indian Ocean, F Kuril
Sea.

Holland: A Solomons.

Ottoman: A Egypt, A Sofia, A Rumania, A Serbia, A Afganistan, A Tehran,
A Hadramaut, F Aegean Sea, F Red Sea, F Persian Gulf.

Russia: A Berlin, A Budapest, A Vienna, A Moskow, A Sevastopol, F
Sweden, A Galicia, A Wallacia, A Bokhara, A Perm.

Spain: F Borneo, A Columbia, F Zanguebar, A New Orleans, F Salerno, F
Tunisia, A Donga, A Hahira, A Soudan, A Para, F Plauhy, F Haiti, A
Republic of Texas, A Iowa Territories, F Bay of Biscay, F Gulf of Lyon,
F Gulf of Mexico, F Eastern Carribean, F Rio de Plate, F Celebes Sea, F
Phillipene Sea, F N.E.Pacific Ocean, F S.Pacific Ocean.

USA: F New York City, F Coahula, A Missouri Terr., A Chicago.

Deadline for Fall 1844: September 22, 2359 UTC

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DC172 Midsummer Nights Stab - Spring 1609 Reminder - test_gm   (Sep 13, 2007, 12:00 am)
Avant and take position,

Spring 1609 - only about 20 hours remaining till deadline. Still many order sets to come in - some can't afford to be late. Thanks everyone!


Show Critic Trout

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DC191 Study In Baltic - Fall 1906 - The Yellow Fac... - test_gm   (Sep 13, 2007, 12:00 am)
Watson and Holmes straightened up from their grisly discovery of the cardboard box, the good doctor overcome with horror. "My Lord Holmes!" he exclaimed. "Do you think one of those are hers?"

"Calm yourself, Watson," his friend replied. "Both of those are very masculine ears - I am sure your wife is perfectly safe... Whereas we might not be so lucky." His attention had been caught by the strange apparition on the far side of the road. A child, sitting in a tall tree, wearing a bright yellow mask. With one hand the small figure gripped a stout branch for balance, the other hand was pointed out towards the gravel drive.


In the drive, three very stout Finnish men had appeared, one of whom carried a pistol - the business end pointed directly at Holmes and Watson. "You're to come with us," he barked. "And keep your distance, Mister Holmes. Your reputation at fisticuffs is well known... You can believe that we won't be taking any chances."


"What do we do?" Watson whispered in alarm.


"Why, we go with them," was the reply. "Today the Finnish carry the field...."


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The Finns do have an excellent turn - netting themselves three builds with a string of successful occupations. The rest of the action across the board stabilizes, with the Poles and the Russians exchanging southern centers and Sweden trusting the Fins just one step too far.


No retreats are required after the action of the Fall. Deadline for the Winter 1906 adjustments will be set for Saturday, September 19th (11:59 PM GMT).


Also of note - a DIAS proposal has been put on the table. Please have your yay or nay votes in on this by the Winter Adjustments deadline.


Cheers guys!


Sir ArTrout D.






FALL 1906 POLISH PRESS!!


"Poland proposes a DIAS and votes yes"





Movement results for Fall of 1906. (DC191 06 FALL)


Finland: A West Dvina - Tallinn.
Finland: A Helsingfors - Saimaa.
Finland: F Gulf of Stockholm - Slite.
Finland: F North Baltic - Saaremaa Island.
Finland: F Gulf of Finland Supports A West Dvina - Tallinn.


Poland: A Wkra - Narew.
Poland: A Brest Supports A Wkra - Narew.
Poland: F Konigsberg Supports F Riga.
Poland: F Malmo Supports F Hano Bay.
Poland: F Kattegat - Goteborg (*Fails*).
Poland: F Hano Bay Supports F Mid Baltic.
Poland: F Mid Baltic Supports F Riga.


Russia: A Minsk Supports A West Dvina (*Ordered to Move*).
Russia: F Riga Supports F Mid Baltic.


Sweden: A Sundsvall - Siljan.
Sweden: F Goteborg - Kattegat (*Fails*).
Sweden: F Bolmen(ec) Hold.
Sweden: F Vattern Supports F Bolmen(ec).
Sweden: F Alaand Island - Gulf of Stockholm.


Unit locations:


Finland: A Tallinn, A Saimaa, F Slite, F Saaremaa Island, F Gulf of Finland.
Poland: A Brest, A Narew, F Konigsberg, F Malmo, F Kattegat, F Hano Bay, F
Mid Baltic.
Russia: A Minsk, F Riga.
Sweden: A Siljan, F Goteborg, F Bolmen(ec), F Vattern, F Gulf of Stockholm.


Ownership of supply centers:


Finland: Tallinn, St Petersburg, Kuopio, Helsingfors, Vasa, Tornio, Slite,
Saaremaa Island.
Poland: Strulsund, Danzig, Warsaw, Brest, Konigsberg, Malmo, Copenhagen,
Ronne.
Russia: Minsk, Riga.
Sweden: Sundsvall, Stockholm, Goteborg, Alaand Island.


Finland: 8 Supply centers, 5 Units: Builds 3 units.
Poland: 8 Supply centers, 7 Units: Builds 1 unit.
Russia: 2 Supply centers, 2 Units: Builds 0 units.
Sweden: 4 Supply centers, 5 Units: Removes 1 unit.




NEXT DEADLINE: WINTER 1906 ADJUSTMENTS DUE SATURDAY, SEPTEMBER 19TH (11:59 PM GMT)!!

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DC201 - Spring 954 adjudication - test_gm   (Sep 13, 2007, 12:00 am)
Spring 954: it shouldn't come as a big surprise that another region was set on fire.
Nor as to which Power was responsible for deploying the Scorched Earth strategy this time.
Toulouse, region between the Atlantic Ocean and the Mediterranean Sea, and once the prosperous center between France and the Arab Caliphates, reduced to smoldering fields and villages. Caught between the Arabs and Burgundians the French army backed up until they were driven into the sea. No French survivors were reported. So now the French civilization and its future rest upon the shoulders of its armies in Tours and Nantes.

The Romans and the Slavs have reported heavy fighting in the Khazar Empire; all neighboring regions seem to have been involved and the Romans managed to hold their position.
Heavy fighting also in the Sea of England: the Danes with the support from Burgundy outnumbered the attacking Norse and drove them back.
The Slavic army in the mountainous region of Tirol was completely surprised by the overwhelming force the Burgundians had deployed; no survivors.
The army of the independent city of Alexandria was no match for the Roman forces and has surrendered. So after the independent city of Jorsal, now Alexandria has fallen too.

ArabCaliphates:
A Asturias - Burgos
A Burgos - Toulouse
F Cordoba - Gulf of Cadiz
F Lisboa Supports F Cordoba - Gulf of Cadiz
A Sevilla Supports F Lisboa
F Tunis - Serkland

Burgundy:
A Avignon Supports A Burgos - Toulouse
A Bavaria Supports A St. Gallen - Tirol
F Berber Coast Supports F Cordoba - Gulf of Cadiz
A Catalonia Supports A Burgos - Toulouse
A Champagne - Tours (*Fails*)
F Dogger Bank Supports F Sea of England
F Gulf of Lyons Supports A Catalonia
A Koln - Flanders
A Lombardy Supports A St. Gallen - Tirol
A Paris Supports A Champagne - Tours
A Savoie - Auvergne
A St. Gallen - Tirol
F Strait of Sicily Supports F Berber Coast
A Verdun Supports A Savoie - Auvergne

Danmark:
F Bruges Supports F Sea of England
F English Channel - Hastings (*Fails*)
A Hedeby Hold
F Mecklenburg - Bornholmer Sea (*Bounce*)
F Oerne - Kattegat (*Bounce*)
A Rouen Supports A Paris
F Sea of England Supports F English Channel - Hastings (*Cut*)

EasternRomanEmpire:
F Athinai - Aegean Sea
F Cypriot Sea Hold
F Eastern Mediterranean Sea - Alexandria
A Graz Hold
A Jorsal Supports F Eastern Mediterranean Sea - Alexandria
A Khazar Empire Hold
A Macedonia - Beograd
A Miklagard Hold
F North Black Sea Supports A Khazar Empire
F Palermo Hold
A Spalato Supports A Venezia
A Thessaly - Paristria
A Trebizond Supports A Khazar Empire
A Venezia Supports A Graz

France:
A Nantes Supports A Tours
A Toulouse Des Toulouse (*Disbanded*)
A Tours Supports A Nantes (*Cut*)

SlavicNations:
A Aldeigjuborg - Holmgard
A Brandenburg - Hamburg
A Burta Supports A Kaffa - Khazar Empire
A Holmgard - Gardarike
A Kaffa - Khazar Empire (*Fails*)
A Praha Supports A Ruthenia - Pest
A Przemysl - Ruthenia (*Fails*)
A Rostov Supports A Aldeigjuborg - Holmgard
A Ruthenia - Pest (*Fails*)
A Tirol - Graz (*Disbanded*)
F Vladimir Supports A Kaffa - Khazar Empire

Norge:
A Bjarmaland - Lapland
F Gulf of Cadiz - Mid Atlantic Ocean
F Hafrsfjord - Skagerrak (*Fails*)
F Irish Sea - English Channel (*Fails*)
A Jylland - Hedeby (*Fails*)
F Lindisfarne - Jorvik (*Bounce*)
A London Supports A Wales - Hastings
F Mid Atlantic Ocean - Bay of Biscay
A Noirmoutier - Maine
F North Sea - Sea of England (*Fails*)
F Skagerrak - Kattegat (*Bounce*)
A Skegness - Jorvik (*Bounce*)
A Wales - Hastings

Sverige:
F Baltic Sea Convoys A Birka - Jomsborg
A Birka - Jomsborg
A Breslau Supports A Birka - Jomsborg
A Goteborg - Kalmar (*Fails*)
F Gulf of Finland Supports A Ingermannland - Aldeigjuborg
A Ingermannland - Aldeigjuborg
F Kalmar - Bornholmer Sea (*Bounce*)
A Memel - Gdansk
A Vitebsk Hold

Independent:
A Alexandria Hold (*Disbanded*)
A Buda Supports A Pest
A Pest Supports A Buda (*Cut*)

No retreats, so we have arrived at Fall 954.
Deadline is set at Wednesday Sep 24 at 23:00 GMT.

And as usual, aside from the Viking GIF maps and the DPY, also a new .MAP and .BMP file to save to the RP Viking Variant folder.
Frank

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DC201 - Viking Victory conditions - test_gm   (Sep 13, 2007, 12:00 am)
After 2 weeks, with a small margin, the votes were cast in favor of changing the victory conditions as suggested to reflect the changing number of Supply Centers on the map due to the Scorched Earth variant.

This means that
the Viking Victory conditions for a Solo now require a minimum of 26 SCs or 50% of the total SCs remaining.

Frank

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dc193 ~ Manifested Destiny - test_gm   (Sep 13, 2007, 12:00 am)
I did not propose it. I vote no.
Mick

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Dc189 Spring 858 - test_gm   (Sep 13, 2007, 12:00 am)
Dc189 Spring 858

Draw Proposals
Option C Failed.
Option D failed.

Fall Deadline is due next Tuesday 23rd at 5pm, Australian EST.

There has been another draw proposal tabled. It is the same as Option D. Please vote yes or no with your fall votes.

DIAS with DCI SC scoring.

For DCI scoring
Britons and Welsh 10 SC each - score 6.5 points
Angles 9 SC - scores 5 points
Norse 8 SC - scores 4 points
Scots 7 SC - scores 3 points
Danes 6 SC - scores 2 points.


Adjudications

Angles:
F Borders Supports F Firth of Forth
F Firth of Forth Supports A Lothians (*Dislodged*)
F Kent Supports F Thames
A London Supports F Kent
A Lothians Supports A Ayr - Argyll
A Mercia Hold
A Middlesex - Wiltshire (*Bounce*)
F Thames Supports F Hoek of Holland
F Wash Supports F Firth of Forth

Britons:
F Baie de la Seine - English Channel (*Bounce*)
F Celtic Sea - Kerry
F Clare - Galway Bay (*Bounce*)
A Connacht Supports A Dublin - Louth
A Flanders Supports A Holland
F Golfe de St. Malo - Celtic Sea
F Hoek of Holland Supports F Thames
A Holland Hold
F Loire - Bay of Biscay
F Wight - English Channel (*Bounce*)

Danes:
F Dogger Bank Supports F Moray Firth - Firth of Forth
F Drenthe, no move received
F Frisian Isles, no move received
F Helgoland Bight Supports F Dogger Bank
A Jutland, no move received
F Moray Firth - Firth of Forth

Norse:
A Aberdeen Supports F Perth
F Caithness - Grampian
F German Ocean Supports F Moray Firth - Firth of Forth
F Hordaland Fylke Supports F Dogger Bank
A Ostfold Hold
F Pentland Firth - Orkney Islands (*Bounce*)
F Perth Supports F Moray Firth - Firth of Forth
F Zetland - Orkney Islands (*Bounce*)

Scots:
F Argyll Supports F Armagh - Clyde Firth (*Cut*)
F Armagh - Clyde Firth (*Dislodged*)
F Highlands - Inner Hebrides
F Minch - Highlands
F Rosemary Bank - Galway Bay (*Bounce*)
F Sea of the Hebrides Supports F Argyll
F Sutherland Hold

Welsh:
A Ayr - Argyll (*Fails*)
F Clyde Firth - Armagh
F Damnonia - Gwynedd
F Devon - Cornwall
A Dublin - Louth
F East Irish Sea - Clyde Firth
F St. George Channel - Bristol Channel
A Sussex - Wiltshire (*Bounce*)
F West Irish Sea Supports F Clyde Firth - Armagh
A Wexford - Dublin

Summer 858
Scottish F Armagh can retreat to Donegal.
Angle F Firth of Forth can retreat to Durham.

I have made both of these retreats but the relevant players can choose to retreat OTB if they wish by notifying me within the next 48 hours.

PRESS



Britons speak,


To Welsh,

Ah, the first stumbling block. I am NOT positive to having 3 fleets positioned vs Cel. I could live with a fleet in Bri, but not Cor as well. To be frank, Cor feels very threatening. I humbly ask you to pull that unit away.


To Angles,

Unless a draw passes, we might have to do something like that. I also agree that we would need some kind of guarantees within such a coalition.


To Norse/Danes,

I do not wish to fight either of you, especially not Danes whom I've worked very well with this far. However, if draws keep getting voted down, something must be done and the Angles suggestion is probablly the easiest one to do. I cincerely hope it does not come to that.


To Scots,

Nothing personal, you simply ended up in front of my units.
<?xml:namespace prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-comSurprisedfficeSurprisedffice" />
Angles and Britons, I am all in favor of the three major powers banding together against the three minor ones, should the Norse, Danes and Scots persist in prolonging this senseless carnage. In that case, a three-way draw sounds more than fair to me.

Angles, if I take ARG, you can have SUS. I'm also willing to support you into ARG, if you prefer.

Britons, support into LOU is appreciated. <?xml:namespace prefix = st1 ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-comSurprisedffice:smarttags" />F ST. moved away from KER, just to keep things as cordial as possible. I think we're on auto pilot next turn.

-Wales

Wales/Britons: Waiting for your response to my WBA vs. DNS idea. A 6-way draw is fine with me too.

Wales: Let's keep up the bump in Wil and will continue to support your A Ayr - Arg.

Stephen Lytton
aka Deathblade_penguin (Knight of the Rose)
at www.diplomaticcorp.com

Find out: SEEK Salary Centre Are you paid what you're worth?

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Dc199 Grace Period for France/Turkey - test_gm   (Sep 13, 2007, 12:00 am)
I can't find moves for France or Turkey

I also dont have a grace period used for France yet (Turkey has used his) so a 24 hour grace period from the deadline has now started.

Any player including Turkey can submit moves during this time.


Stephen Lytton
aka Deathblade_penguin (Knight of the Rose)
at www.diplomaticcorp.com

Find out: SEEK Salary Centre Are you paid what you're worth?

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PS f13 results! - test_gm   (Sep 13, 2007, 12:00 am)
Some victories for the small fries this turn, as the purple fleets dislodge the ever popular Sar Sin and move a unit for the first time in 5 years, and once again the Lac Sin changes hands, now bearing the orange flag.

Meanwhile our two leaders each take a forced disband, having no retreat possible.

Proposed 4-way draw! To include the 4 large and medium powers, the 2 one-dotters, if passed, would get survivals. Vote with your spring 14 orders!

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Meanwhile…

A retreat and some builds to tangle with…

RETREATS:

Arcolian A Pella can go to Orch or Kaphyae

BUILDS:

Boeotia: Build 1
Attica: Build 1
Arcolia: Remove 1
Laconia: Build 1

Aetolia and Elia can take a breather this winter as they survive another year.

RETREATS and BUILDS due tomorrow, 10am Pacific!

SPRING 14 due next Thursday 9/25.

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Aetolia:
F rhegium Hold

Boeotia:
A achaia - pellea
A arcania - elis (*Fails*)
A cumae Hold
F cypurissius sinus Supports F messeniacus sinus
A eleusis - corinth (*Fails*)
F italus sinus - rhegium (*Fails*)
F marathon - mare mediterranea (*Fails*)
F mare mediterranea - argulicus sinus (*Fails*)
F megara(ec) Supports F saronieus sinus (*Cut*)
A phocis - locris
F prian rhium Convoys A arcania - elis
F rhodius sinus Supports F helos - laconicus sinus
F sinus corinthiucus Supports A achaia - pellea
F zazynthus sinus Supports A arcania - elis

Attica:
F athenae Supports F saronieus sinus
F helos - laconicus sinus
F messeniacus sinus Supports F helos - laconicus sinus (*Cut*)
F saronieus sinus Convoys A eleusis - corinth (*Disbanded*)

Arcolia:
A corinth - megara (*Fails*)
F epidaurus(nc) Supports F iria(nc) - saronieus sinus
F iria(nc) - saronieus sinus
A mycenae - corinth (*Fails*)
A pellea Supports A mycenae - corinth (*Dislodged*)

Laconia:
F argulicus sinus Supports F iria(nc) - saronieus sinus (*Cut*)
A elis Supports A patcae (*Cut*)
F halieis Supports F iria(nc) - saronieus sinus
A ilia Supports A elis
A ira Hold
F laconia Supports F thuria - messeniacus sinus (*Fails*)
F laconicus sinus - koidaunas (*Disbanded*)
A messena Supports A pylos
A patcae Supports A protilae - achaia
A pisatis Supports A ilia
F prastos - koidaunas (*Bounce*)
A protilae - achaia
A pylos Supports A messena
F thuria - messeniacus sinus (*Fails*)

Elia:
A dafni Supports A cumae - pisatis (*Void*)

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Seismic - f08 results! - test_gm   (Sep 13, 2007, 12:00 am)
RETREAT!
There is one retreat, Russian Gal may retreat to Boh or War by tomorrow, 10am Pacific!

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Austria:
F NAP-ROM (wc)

England:
F Ska -> Swe (*Bounce*)
A Ruh -> Kie (*Bounce 2:2*)

France:
A Norway-Swe (*Bounce*)
A Cly- Norway (*Fails*)
F NWG S A Cly-Norway
F NTH S F Bel hold
F Bel S A Hol hold
F MAO-WMS
A Paris hold
A Mar - Spa
A Tunis S F Nap-Rome (*Fails*)

Russia:
A HOL S A Bur-Kie
A Kie-Mun (*Fails 2:2*)
A Bur-Kie (*Bounce 2:2*)
A Sil S A Kie-Mun
A Gal S A War-Ukr
A War-Ukr
A Mos S A StP
A StP S A War-Ukr
F Den-Swe (*Bounce*)

Turkey:
A Munich S A Ruhr-Kiel
A Tyr S A Mun H
F Bla S A Sev-Rum
A Sev-Rum
A Ukr-Sev
A Arm S A Ukr-Sev
A Vie S A Bud-Gal
A Bud-Gal
F Rom-Tus
A Tus-Ven
F Adr H
F Ion H
F EMS H

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DC203 Galad W02 Results - test_gm   (Sep 13, 2007, 12:00 am)
Builds/Removals Complete.

Deadline for Spring 1903 is Sept 24th 5pm CST.


dc203 Galad (Autumn 1902)

AUSTRIA-HUNGARY (Craig)
A(Alb) - Tri (FAILED); A(Tyr) - Vie (FAILED); F(ADS) s A(Alb) - Tri (CUT)

ENGLAND (Joao)
F(NTH) s F(Nwy); F(Nwy) s GERMAN F(Den) - Swe; A(Bel) s GERMAN A(Ruh) - Bur; F(Wal) - Lpl

FRANCE (Doug)
F(IRI) - ENG; A(Par) - Pic; A(Gas) - Bur (FAILED); A(Mar) s A(Gas) - Bur; A(Spa) - Gas (FAILED)

GERMANY (Christian)
A(Ruh) - Bur; A(Hol) - Kie; F(Den) - Swe; F(BAL) s F(Den) - Swe; A(Mun) s A(Ruh) - Bur

ITALY (Brian)
A(Tri) s A(Ven) (CUT); A(Ven) s A(Tri); F(Apu) - ADS (FAILED); F(ION) c A(Nap) - Alb; A(Nap) - Alb (FAILED)

RUSSIA (Andrew)
F(Swe) - Nwy (FAILED, DISLODGED TO GoB); F(StP) nc s F(Swe) - Nwy; A(Gal) - Vie; A(Bud) s A(Gal) - Vie; A(Rum) s ITALIAN A(Tri) - Ser (MISORDER, DISLODGED TO Ukr); F(Sev) Stands (DISLODGED - DISBANDED NRP)

TURKEY (Matt)
A(Arm) - Sev; F(BLA) s A(Arm) - Sev; A(Bul) s A(Ser) - Rum; A(Ser) - Rum; F(AEG) - Gre

Autumn 1902 Adjustments:
A: Ser, -Bud, -Vie = 1; Loses 2.
E: Nwy, +Bel, Lpl, Lon, Edi = 5; Gains 1.
F: Mar, Spa, Por, Bre, Par = 5; No change.
G: Kie, +Swe, Mun, Den, Hol, Ber = 6; Gains 1.
I: Tri, Ven, Nap, Tun, Rom = 5; No change.
R: StP, +Vie, +Bud, Mos, War -Swe, -Rum, -Sev = 5; Loses 1.
T: +Sev, Bul, +Rum, Gre, Ank, Con, Smy = 7; Gains 2.

Builds/Disbands:
A: Removes A(Tyr), F(ADS).
E: Builds F(Lon).
F: None.
G: Builds A(Ber).
I: None.
R: None.
T: Builds A(Con), F(Smy).



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DC190 - Summer 2005 - test_gm   (Sep 13, 2007, 12:00 am)
Here are the retreats:

North America:
A Illinois - Boston

Mexico:
F Tasman Sea - Great Australian Bight

South America:
F East China Sea - Micronesian Sea

Persia:
A Muscat - Riyadh

Next Deadline:
Fall 2005 Orders will be due on Thursday, Sept. 25, 2100GMT

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DC192 - The Scum on the Slop Bucket GAME END FALL... - test_gm   (Sep 13, 2007, 12:00 am)
DIPLOMATICCORP DC192 - THE SCUM ON THE SLOP BUCKET
STANDARD GAME, STANDARD MAP, 2-SEASON GAME YEAR
ADJUDICATION FALL 1908 (TURN 16) - END OF GAME
THURSDAY 18th SEPTEMBER 2008

GM Comment:


We have a final result. The best of the slop rises to the surface!

GERMANY WINS A SOLO VICTORY gaining 18 centres (Congratulations to Mark)
FRANCE SURVIVES
TURKEY SURVIVES

My thanks go to the above players and to the others who were eliminated in this turn and earlier. There were no NMRs (except for a rerun of the first turn following the original France falling at the first fence). The player commitment was great - including Adam (Italy) who even sent in a nil return order for the final turn when he didn't have any units left!

The game seemed destined for a 2-way concession victory to France and Germany for a while, but the proposal was voted down turn after turn after turn. Germany's armies seemed better placed than France's Mediterranean fleets to pick up centres in the end game. In the end Germany's fleet dispositions allowed some (expected?) stabs at France's expense.

If any of you want to do End of Game Statements (and I encourage you to share your strategy with the wider Diplomaticcorp community) then please either send them to me for distribution or publish the statements yourself on the DC192 message board.

In due course point will be allocated to players and the game will be archived in the Hall of Games.

Good luck to each player in their future games.


A link to the GM House Rules and information on 2-season Diplomacy showing the way retreats and adjustments were ordered can be found DC192 game page at http://sforza.50webs.com/PS%20GM%20HR%20Standard%202-S.doc
The Rules of the Game of Diplomacy (2008 5th Edition) used can be found at http://wizards.com/avalonhill/rules/diplomacy_rulebook.pdf and www.diplomaticcorp.com/pdf/diplomacy_rulebook.pdf
These results will also be posted to the DiplomaticCorp DC192 game page and message board http://www.diplomaticcorp.com/game_page.php?game_id=dc192

Orders (as interpreted, no NMRs):

Austria:
A Albania - Serbia (*fails [1:2]*)
F Greece Supports A Albania - Serbia (*invalid order* - fleet cannot support to landlocked province, *diislodged [1:2]* - see retreats below)

France:
F Adriatic Sea - Albania (*fails [1:1]*)
F Aegean Sea Supports A Spain - Greece
A Burgundy - Belgium (*fails [1:1]*)
F Gulf of Lyon Convoys A Spain - Greece
F Ionian Sea Convoys A Spain - Greece
F Naples Supports F Ionian Sea
A Ruhr - Belgium (*fails [1:1]*)
A Spain - Greece
A Trieste - Serbia (*fails [1:2]*)
F Tyrrhenian Sea Convoys A Spain - Greece
A Venice - Trieste (*fails [1:1]*)

Italy:
No units.

Germany:
A Bohemia Supports A Tyrolia - Munich
A Budapest Supports A Sevastopol - Rumania
F English Channel - Brest
A Galicia Supports A Sevastopol - Rumania
A Kiel - Holland
A Moscow - Sevastopol
A Munich - Kiel
F North Atlantic Ocean - Mid-Atlantic Ocean
F North Sea - London
A Sevastopol - Rumania
A Tyrolia - Munich
A Ukraine Supports A Sevastopol - Rumania
A Vienna, no move received
A Warsaw Hold

Turkey:
F Black Sea Supports A Bulgaria
A Bulgaria Supports A Rumania - Serbia
F Constantinople Supports F Eastern Mediterranean - Smyrna
F Eastern Mediterranean - Smyrna
A Rumania - Serbia

Retreats (only required retreats shown):

Austria:
F Gre (*destroyed* - no retreat possible).

Ownership:

Austria:
*** ELIMINATED FALL 1908 ***

England:
*** ELIMINATED FALL 1904 ***

France:
Belgium, Greece, Marseilles, Naples, Paris, Portugal, Rome, Spain, Trieste, Tunis, Venice.

Germany:
Berlin, Brest, Budapest, Denmark, Edinburgh, Holland, Kiel, Liverpool, London, Moscow, Munich, Norway, Rumania, Sevastopol, St. Petersburg, Sweden, Vienna, Warsaw.

Italy:
*** ELIMINATED FALL 1908 ***

Russia:
*** ELIMINATED FALL 1906 ***

Turkey:
Ankara, Bulgaria, Costantinople, Serbia, Smyrna.

Press:

Press is via player email or the DC192 Message Board.

Maps:

There are 2 maps (gif) for this final turn:

DC192Fa08m: showing moves (all dislodged units were destroyed so there is no separate retreats map) .
DC192Fa08f: showing final (game end) positions.

A complete map history for the game (in the form of a slideshow) can be found at http://sforza.50webs.com/ I'll keep these on the site for a few months.
A slideshow purely showing end of turn maps can be found at: http://www.diplomaticcorp.com/slideshow.php?game_id=dc192 (I won't be putting intermediate maps - moves, retreats, adjustments - retrospectively on the Diplomaticcorp site for this game - too much work, but will be putting them on for the next game I GM).

Cheers,

Paolo.

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dc157 The End of the war! - test_gm   (Sep 13, 2007, 12:00 am)
The war is over!

The four remaining powers come together and settle for peace. (or just exhaustion).

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DIAS to include: Austria, England, France and Italy.
***********************************

Ownership:
Austria: Berlin, Budapest, Bulgaria, Greece, Moscow, Rumania,
Serbia, Sevastopol, Trieste, Vienna, Warsaw.
England: Denmark, Edinburgh, Liverpool, London, Norway, St
Petersburg, Sweden.
France: Belgium, Brest, Holland, Kiel, Marseilles, Paris,
Portugal, Spain, Tunis.
Germany: Munich.
Italy: Ankara, Constantinople, Naples, Rome, Smyrna, Venice.

Adjustments:
Austria: Supp 11 Unit 9 Build 2
England: Supp 7 Unit 7 Build 0
France: Supp 9 Unit 9 Build 0
Germany: Supp 1 Unit 1 Build 0
Italy: Supp 6 Unit 6 Build 0
Russia: Supp 0 Unit 0 Build 0
Turkey: Supp 0 Unit 0 Build 0

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dc157 The End of the war! - test_gm   (Sep 13, 2007, 12:00 am)
Thanks for the game, everyone! And thanks Dave for GMing!

Scott
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On Thu, Sep 18, 2008 at 10:12 PM, David Ellsworth <davidellsworth(at)sbcglobal.net ([email]davidellsworth(at)sbcglobal.net[/email])> wrote:

The war is over!

The four remaining powers come together and settle for peace. (or just exhaustion).

***********************************
DIAS to include: Austria, England, France and Italy.
***********************************

Ownership:
Austria: Berlin, Budapest, Bulgaria, Greece, Moscow, Rumania,
Serbia, Sevastopol, Trieste, Vienna, Warsaw.
England: Denmark, Edinburgh, Liverpool, London, Norway, St
Petersburg, Sweden.
France: Belgium, Brest, Holland, Kiel, Marseilles, Paris,
Portugal, Spain, Tunis.
Germany: Munich.
Italy: Ankara, Constantinople, Naples, Rome, Smyrna, Venice.

Adjustments:
Austria: Supp 11 Unit 9 Build 2
England: Supp 7 Unit 7 Build 0
France: Supp 9 Unit 9 Build 0
Germany: Supp 1 Unit 1 Build 0
Italy: Supp 6 Unit 6 Build 0
Russia: Supp 0 Unit 0 Build 0
Turkey: Supp 0 Unit 0 Build 0



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