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dc394 builds - Jim-Bob   (Aug 10, 2012, 7:33 am)
Agreed, that sounds good.  In front of all of you, we're saying that I'm going to meet Mike Sims this weekend some time, right?  That's the only good excuse for not getting the results out. 
Jim-Bob

On Fri, Aug 10, 2012 at 1:40 AM, Mike Hoffman <mrh(at)panix.com> wrote:

If Brian missed his builds, just process. He doesn't need them anyway. Smile
---------
"Sit Long, Talk Much, Laugh Often" -- anon
"Shared Pain is lessened, Shared Joy is increased" --- Spider Robinson





On Thu, Aug 9, 2012 at 5:51 PM, Michael Sims <mike(at)fuzzylogicllc.com> wrote:





Still waiting for one set of builds... but the retreats are in.  No surprises:
 
Chu - emo
Tne - mas
 
WoC -> TGR
WMO -> ASB
 
When I get the last set of builds I'll put out a new map...
-mike
 


From: Michael Sims
Sent: Mon 8/6/2012 12:21 PM
Cc: dc394
Subject: dc394 s17 retreats



You guys need a new map to visualize the movement of 3 retreats?
 
Pathetic!
 
I tell ya...
 
When I was young... maps were hammered out of stone... and if you make a mistake - you dealt with it - and we only got a new map when the local mason would carve out a new tablet from the quarry - so we drew lines in the sand - and pretended rocks were armies - and sticks were fleets - and we liked it!

 
No leniency.  Moves today!  Mwuhahahaha
 
And then after this is the great World Dip Con here in Chicago.  Are any of you going?  If not, you should.  Altho they won't hand draw personalized retreat maps for you in FTF... you have to <gasp> visualize your own!

Enjoy,
-mike
 
 
 


From: Michael Sims
Sent: Wed 8/1/2012 10:07 PM
Subject: dc394 s17 retreats



Hey guys, can't get you a map at the moment but here's official retreats.  At least it lets you start on the next turn...
Next - Monday!  August 6.
Enjoy,
-mike
 
RETREATS:
GRR - Abb
Riv - Mor
Now - Wil
 
 

[Reply]

DC406: Spring 10 Final! - offdisc   (Aug 10, 2012, 12:46 am)
Retreats are in.... partially... but since one unit only had one place to move, I defaulted there.
Knights: F BEAVERSDAM - CELESTIAL DELTATrolls: A Sorrows End - Pygmy

Deadline for Fall 10 will be Thursday, 8/16.  I wanted to get one Fall session done during the Olympics (so many teams to choose from for the Build/Disband category names), but alas, they don't run long enough.  Wait, did I just say that????  Smile

Thanks,Mike---------
"Sit Long, Talk Much, Laugh Often" -- anon
"Shared Pain is lessened, Shared Joy is increased" --- Spider Robinson

[Reply]

dc394 builds - offdisc   (Aug 10, 2012, 12:40 am)
If Brian missed his builds, just process. He doesn't need them anyway. Smile
---------
"Sit Long, Talk Much, Laugh Often" -- anon
"Shared Pain is lessened, Shared Joy is increased" --- Spider Robinson





On Thu, Aug 9, 2012 at 5:51 PM, Michael Sims <mike(at)fuzzylogicllc.com> wrote:




Still waiting for one set of builds... but the retreats are in.  No surprises:
 
Chu - emo
Tne - mas
 
WoC -> TGR
WMO -> ASB
 
When I get the last set of builds I'll put out a new map...
-mike
 


From: Michael Sims
Sent: Mon 8/6/2012 12:21 PM
Cc: dc394
Subject: dc394 s17 retreats



You guys need a new map to visualize the movement of 3 retreats?
 
Pathetic!
 
I tell ya...
 
When I was young... maps were hammered out of stone... and if you make a mistake - you dealt with it - and we only got a new map when the local mason would carve out a new tablet from the quarry - so we drew lines in the sand - and pretended rocks were armies - and sticks were fleets - and we liked it!
 
No leniency.  Moves today!  Mwuhahahaha
 
And then after this is the great World Dip Con here in Chicago.  Are any of you going?  If not, you should.  Altho they won't hand draw personalized retreat maps for you in FTF... you have to <gasp> visualize your own!
Enjoy,
-mike
 
 
 


From: Michael Sims
Sent: Wed 8/1/2012 10:07 PM
Subject: dc394 s17 retreats



Hey guys, can't get you a map at the moment but here's official retreats.  At least it lets you start on the next turn...
Next - Monday!  August 6.
Enjoy,
-mike
 
RETREATS:
GRR - Abb
Riv - Mor
Now - Wil
 
 

[Reply]

DC431 Winter 1902 results - smileyrob   (Aug 09, 2012, 7:58 pm)
Gentlemen,

Here are the retreat and adjustment results. Jack choose not to retreat to Marseilles. I am interested in seeing how that decision plays out. Also with armies built in Berlin and Warsaw, we may be seeing the beginning of a bit of tension between Germany and Russia. Then again, maybe not. Are those armies headed for Austria instead?


DC 431 (1900 DIPLOMACY) WINTER 1902 ADJUDICATION

PLAYERS:

Austria: Jerome Payne jerome777(at)ymail.com
Britain: Ethan Schubert schu9914(at)vandals.uidaho.edu (abandoned Winter 1900)








            Mark Utterback MDemagogue(at)gmail.com (from Winter 1900)


France: Michael Nickles flexpoint1(at)gmail.com (resigned Fall 1901)
  Sun Chung sun.chung(at)gmail.com (from Fall 1901)






Germany: Andrew Tanner amtrating(at)gmail.com

Italy: Jack McHugh jwmchughjr(at)gmail.com
Russia: Lynn Mercer hancockfc(at)yahoo.com

Turkey: Michael Thompson psychosis(at)sky.com

HEADLINES:
Italian soldiers disperse into Alps rather than retreating to coast.
Brits abandon their last center in favor of harassing Germans in Baltic.

Having fulfilled his promise to build a navy superior to Britain, Kaiser finally conscripts foot soldiers in Berlin.
Sultan continues to ignore his homeland in effort to establish strong position in the Med.
French shipbuilders hard at work on both coasts.


ORDERS:
FALL 1902 RETREATS:
Britain: F Denmark - Baltic Sea.

Italy: A Trieste - Venetia.
Italy: disband A Switzerland.

WINTER 1902 ADJUSTMENTS:
Britain: Remove F Tripolitania.
Britain: Remove F Barents Sea.

Britain: Remove F Skagerrak.

France: Build F Marseilles.
France: Build F Brest.
France: Build A Paris.

Germany: Build A Berlin.

Russia: Build A Warsaw.

Turkey: Remove A Macedonia.


UNIT LOCATIONS:
Britain:   F Baltic Sea.
Austria:   A Vienna, A Budapest, F Trieste, A Switzerland, A Serbia.
France:    F Liverpool, F London, F Brest, A Picardy, A Paris, A Burgundy, F Marseilles, A Algeria, A Piedmont.

Germany:   F Denmark, F Edinburgh, A Cologne, A Berlin, A Munich, A Belgium, F North Sea, F Helgoland Bight.
Italy:     A Milan, A Venetia, F Adriatic Sea.
Russia:    A St Petersburg, F Constantinople, F Ankara, A Konya, A Finland, A Warsaw, A Norway, F Sweden, A Rumania, A Bulgaria.

Turkey:    A Cyrenaica, F Tyrrhenian Sea, F Ionian Sea.

OWNERSHIP OF SUPPLY CENTERS:
Britain:   Tripolitania.
Austria:   Vienna, Budapest, Trieste, Switzerland, Serbia.
France:    Spain, Liverpool, London, Brest, Paris, Marseilles, Algeria, Portugal, Morocco.

Germany:   Denmark, Edinburgh, Kiel, Cologne, Berlin, Munich, Netherlands, Belgium.
Italy:     Milan, Rome, Naples.
Russia:    St Petersburg, Constantinople, Ankara, Warsaw, Moscow, Sevastopol, Norway, Sweden, Rumania, Bulgaria.

Turkey:    Greece, Egypt, Damascus.

Britain:    1 Supply center,   1 Unit:   Builds   0 units.
Austria:    5 Supply centers,  5 Units:  Builds   0 units.
France:     9 Supply centers,  9 Units:  Builds   0 units.

Germany:    8 Supply centers,  8 Units:  Builds   0 units.
Italy:      3 Supply centers,  3 Units:  Builds   0 units.
Russia:    10 Supply centers, 10 Units:  Builds   0 units.
Turkey:     3 Supply centers,  3 Units:  Builds   0 units.



UPCOMING DEADLINES:
Spring 1903 orders:                                       Tuesday, August 14, 8 PM PDT (Wednesday, August 15, 3 AM GMT)

Summer 1903 retreats:                                  Thursday, August 16, 8 PM PDT (Friday, August 17, 3 AM GMT)
Fall 1903 orders:                                            Tuesday, August 21, 8 PM PDT (Wednesday, August 22, 3 AM GMT)

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dc394 builds - Jim-Bob   (Aug 09, 2012, 7:04 pm)
We're pathetic, about to run out to the World DipCon Welcoming party, see ya!Jim-Bob

On Thu, Aug 9, 2012 at 7:51 PM, Michael Sims <mike(at)fuzzylogicllc.com> wrote:




Still waiting for one set of builds... but the retreats are in.  No surprises:
 
Chu - emo
Tne - mas
 
WoC -> TGR
WMO -> ASB
 
When I get the last set of builds I'll put out a new map...
-mike
 


From: Michael Sims
Sent: Mon 8/6/2012 12:21 PM
Cc: dc394
Subject: dc394 s17 retreats



You guys need a new map to visualize the movement of 3 retreats?
 
Pathetic!
 
I tell ya...
 
When I was young... maps were hammered out of stone... and if you make a mistake - you dealt with it - and we only got a new map when the local mason would carve out a new tablet from the quarry - so we drew lines in the sand - and pretended rocks were armies - and sticks were fleets - and we liked it!
 
No leniency.  Moves today!  Mwuhahahaha
 
And then after this is the great World Dip Con here in Chicago.  Are any of you going?  If not, you should.  Altho they won't hand draw personalized retreat maps for you in FTF... you have to <gasp> visualize your own!
Enjoy,
-mike
 
 
 


From: Michael Sims
Sent: Wed 8/1/2012 10:07 PM
Subject: dc394 s17 retreats



Hey guys, can't get you a map at the moment but here's official retreats.  At least it lets you start on the next turn...
Next - Monday!  August 6.
Enjoy,
-mike
 
RETREATS:
GRR - Abb
Riv - Mor
Now - Wil
 
 

[Reply]

dc394 builds - FuzzyLogic   (Aug 09, 2012, 6:51 pm)
Still waiting for one set of builds... but the retreats are in.  No surprises:
 
Chu - emo
Tne - mas
 
WoC -> TGR
WMO -> ASB
 
When I get the last set of builds I'll put out a new map...
-mike
 



From: Michael Sims
Sent: Mon 8/6/2012 12:21 PM
Cc: dc394
Subject: dc394 s17 retreats




You guys need a new map to visualize the movement of 3 retreats?
 
Pathetic!
 
I tell ya...
 
When I was young... maps were hammered out of stone... and if you make a mistake - you dealt with it - and we only got a new map when the local mason would carve out a new tablet from the quarry - so we drew lines in the sand - and pretended rocks were armies - and sticks were fleets - and we liked it!
 
No leniency.  Moves today!  Mwuhahahaha
 
And then after this is the great World Dip Con here in Chicago.  Are any of you going?  If not, you should.  Altho they won't hand draw personalized retreat maps for you in FTF... you have to <gasp> visualize your own!
Enjoy,
-mike
 
 
 



From: Michael Sims
Sent: Wed 8/1/2012 10:07 PM
Subject: dc394 s17 retreats




Hey guys, can't get you a map at the moment but here's official retreats.  At least it lets you start on the next turn...
Next - Monday!  August 6.
Enjoy,
-mike
 
RETREATS:
GRR - Abb
Riv - Mor
Now - Wil
 
 

[Reply]

dc394 builds (dc394) Jim-Bob Aug 09, 07:04 pm
We're pathetic, about to run out to the World DipCon Welcoming party, see ya!Jim-Bob

On Thu, Aug 9, 2012 at 7:51 PM, Michael Sims <mike(at)fuzzylogicllc.com> wrote:




Still waiting for one set of builds... but the retreats are in.  No surprises:
 
Chu - emo
Tne - mas
 
WoC -> TGR
WMO -> ASB
 
When I get the last set of builds I'll put out a new map...
-mike
 


From: Michael Sims
Sent: Mon 8/6/2012 12:21 PM
Cc: dc394
Subject: dc394 s17 retreats



You guys need a new map to visualize the movement of 3 retreats?
 
Pathetic!
 
I tell ya...
 
When I was young... maps were hammered out of stone... and if you make a mistake - you dealt with it - and we only got a new map when the local mason would carve out a new tablet from the quarry - so we drew lines in the sand - and pretended rocks were armies - and sticks were fleets - and we liked it!
 
No leniency.  Moves today!  Mwuhahahaha
 
And then after this is the great World Dip Con here in Chicago.  Are any of you going?  If not, you should.  Altho they won't hand draw personalized retreat maps for you in FTF... you have to <gasp> visualize your own!
Enjoy,
-mike
 
 
 


From: Michael Sims
Sent: Wed 8/1/2012 10:07 PM
Subject: dc394 s17 retreats



Hey guys, can't get you a map at the moment but here's official retreats.  At least it lets you start on the next turn...
Next - Monday!  August 6.
Enjoy,
-mike
 
RETREATS:
GRR - Abb
Riv - Mor
Now - Wil
 
 
dc394 builds (dc394) offdisc Aug 10, 12:40 am
If Brian missed his builds, just process. He doesn't need them anyway. Smile
---------
"Sit Long, Talk Much, Laugh Often" -- anon
"Shared Pain is lessened, Shared Joy is increased" --- Spider Robinson





On Thu, Aug 9, 2012 at 5:51 PM, Michael Sims <mike(at)fuzzylogicllc.com> wrote:




Still waiting for one set of builds... but the retreats are in.  No surprises:
 
Chu - emo
Tne - mas
 
WoC -> TGR
WMO -> ASB
 
When I get the last set of builds I'll put out a new map...
-mike
 


From: Michael Sims
Sent: Mon 8/6/2012 12:21 PM
Cc: dc394
Subject: dc394 s17 retreats



You guys need a new map to visualize the movement of 3 retreats?
 
Pathetic!
 
I tell ya...
 
When I was young... maps were hammered out of stone... and if you make a mistake - you dealt with it - and we only got a new map when the local mason would carve out a new tablet from the quarry - so we drew lines in the sand - and pretended rocks were armies - and sticks were fleets - and we liked it!
 
No leniency.  Moves today!  Mwuhahahaha
 
And then after this is the great World Dip Con here in Chicago.  Are any of you going?  If not, you should.  Altho they won't hand draw personalized retreat maps for you in FTF... you have to <gasp> visualize your own!
Enjoy,
-mike
 
 
 


From: Michael Sims
Sent: Wed 8/1/2012 10:07 PM
Subject: dc394 s17 retreats



Hey guys, can't get you a map at the moment but here's official retreats.  At least it lets you start on the next turn...
Next - Monday!  August 6.
Enjoy,
-mike
 
RETREATS:
GRR - Abb
Riv - Mor
Now - Wil
 
 
dc394 builds (dc394) Jim-Bob Aug 10, 07:33 am
Agreed, that sounds good.  In front of all of you, we're saying that I'm going to meet Mike Sims this weekend some time, right?  That's the only good excuse for not getting the results out. 
Jim-Bob

On Fri, Aug 10, 2012 at 1:40 AM, Mike Hoffman <mrh(at)panix.com> wrote:

If Brian missed his builds, just process. He doesn't need them anyway. Smile
---------
"Sit Long, Talk Much, Laugh Often" -- anon
"Shared Pain is lessened, Shared Joy is increased" --- Spider Robinson





On Thu, Aug 9, 2012 at 5:51 PM, Michael Sims <mike(at)fuzzylogicllc.com> wrote:





Still waiting for one set of builds... but the retreats are in.  No surprises:
 
Chu - emo
Tne - mas
 
WoC -> TGR
WMO -> ASB
 
When I get the last set of builds I'll put out a new map...
-mike
 


From: Michael Sims
Sent: Mon 8/6/2012 12:21 PM
Cc: dc394
Subject: dc394 s17 retreats



You guys need a new map to visualize the movement of 3 retreats?
 
Pathetic!
 
I tell ya...
 
When I was young... maps were hammered out of stone... and if you make a mistake - you dealt with it - and we only got a new map when the local mason would carve out a new tablet from the quarry - so we drew lines in the sand - and pretended rocks were armies - and sticks were fleets - and we liked it!

 
No leniency.  Moves today!  Mwuhahahaha
 
And then after this is the great World Dip Con here in Chicago.  Are any of you going?  If not, you should.  Altho they won't hand draw personalized retreat maps for you in FTF... you have to <gasp> visualize your own!

Enjoy,
-mike
 
 
 


From: Michael Sims
Sent: Wed 8/1/2012 10:07 PM
Subject: dc394 s17 retreats



Hey guys, can't get you a map at the moment but here's official retreats.  At least it lets you start on the next turn...
Next - Monday!  August 6.
Enjoy,
-mike
 
RETREATS:
GRR - Abb
Riv - Mor
Now - Wil
 
 
dc394 builds (dc394) briandiffell Aug 10, 08:30 pm
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Aw, I sent in my builds with my retreats.
Hoffman keeps threatening to give up, but he's all talk! It takes real
courage to give up!
Jim-Bob, tell Sims to take a break from DipCon to send our maps.
On Fri, 10 Aug 2012 08:33:36 -0400, Jim Burgess
wrote:
Agreed, that sounds good. In front of all of you, we're saying that I'm
going to meet Mike Sims this weekend some time, right? That's the only
good excuse for not getting the results out.

Jim-Bob

On Fri, Aug 10, 2012 at 1:40 AM, Mike Hoffman wrote:

> If Brian missed his builds, just process. He doesn't need them anyway.
> Smile
> ---------
> "Sit Long, Talk Much, Laugh Often" -- anon
> "Shared Pain is lessened, Shared Joy is increased" --- Spider Robinson
>
>
>
> On Thu, Aug 9, 2012 at 5:51 PM, Michael Sims
> wrote:
>
>> Still waiting for one set of builds... but the retreats are in. No
>> surprises:
>>
>> Chu - emo
>> Tne - mas
>>
>> WoC -> TGR
>> WMO -> ASB
>>
>> When I get the last set of builds I'll put out a new map...
>> -mike
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>> *From:* Michael Sims
>> *Sent:* Mon 8/6/2012 12:21 PM
>> *Cc:* dc394
>> *Subject:* dc394 s17 retreats
>>
>> You guys need a new map to visualize the movement of 3 retreats?
>>
>> Pathetic!
>>
>> I tell ya...
>>
>> When I was young... maps were hammered out of stone... and if you make
a
>> mistake - you dealt with it - and we only got a new map when the local
>> mason would carve out a new tablet from the quarry - so we drew lines
in
>> the sand - and pretended rocks were armies - and sticks were fleets -
>> and
>> we liked it!
>>
>> No leniency. Moves today! Mwuhahahaha
>>
>> And then after this is the great World Dip Con here in Chicago. Are
any
>> of you going? If not, you should. Altho they won't hand draw
>> personalized
>> retreat maps for you in FTF... you have to visualize your own!
>> Enjoy,
>> -mike
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>> *From:* Michael Sims
>> *Sent:* Wed 8/1/2012 10:07 PM
>> *Subject:* dc394 s17 retreats
>>
>> Hey guys, can't get you a map at the moment but here's official
>> retreats. At least it lets you start on the next turn...
>> Next - Monday! August 6.
>> Enjoy,
>> -mike
>>
>> RETREATS:
>> GRR - Abb
>> Riv - Mor
>> Now - Wil
>>
>>
>>
>
>
dc394 builds (dc394) Jim-Bob Aug 10, 10:07 pm
Sims hasn't shown up to world dipcon yet, he had better show up tomorrow!!! Right now I'm leading my second round game.
Sent from my iPhone
On Aug 10, 2012, at 8:30 PM, wrote:


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Aw, I sent in my builds with my retreats.

Hoffman keeps threatening to give up, but he's all talk! It takes real
courage to give up!

Jim-Bob, tell Sims to take a break from DipCon to send our maps.

On Fri, 10 Aug 2012 08:33:36 -0400, Jim Burgess
wrote:
> Agreed, that sounds good. In front of all of you, we're saying that I'm
> going to meet Mike Sims this weekend some time, right? That's the only
> good excuse for not getting the results out.
>
> Jim-Bob
>
> On Fri, Aug 10, 2012 at 1:40 AM, Mike Hoffman wrote:
>
>> If Brian missed his builds, just process. He doesn't need them anyway.
>> Smile
>> ---------
>> "Sit Long, Talk Much, Laugh Often" -- anon
>> "Shared Pain is lessened, Shared Joy is increased" --- Spider Robinson
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Aug 9, 2012 at 5:51 PM, Michael Sims
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Still waiting for one set of builds... but the retreats are in. No
>>> surprises:
>>>
>>> Chu - emo
>>> Tne - mas
>>>
>>> WoC -> TGR
>>> WMO -> ASB
>>>
>>> When I get the last set of builds I'll put out a new map...
>>> -mike
>>>
>>>
>>> ------------------------------
>>> *From:* Michael Sims
>>> *Sent:* Mon 8/6/2012 12:21 PM
>>> *Cc:* dc394
>>> *Subject:* dc394 s17 retreats
>>>
>>> You guys need a new map to visualize the movement of 3 retreats?
>>>
>>> Pathetic!
>>>
>>> I tell ya...
>>>
>>> When I was young... maps were hammered out of stone... and if you make
a
>>> mistake - you dealt with it - and we only got a new map when the local
>>> mason would carve out a new tablet from the quarry - so we drew lines
in
>>> the sand - and pretended rocks were armies - and sticks were fleets -
>>> and
>>> we liked it!
>>>
>>> No leniency. Moves today! Mwuhahahaha
>>>
>>> And then after this is the great World Dip Con here in Chicago. Are
any
>>> of you going? If not, you should. Altho they won't hand draw
>>> personalized
>>> retreat maps for you in FTF... you have to visualize your own!
>>> Enjoy,
>>> -mike
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ------------------------------
>>> *From:* Michael Sims
>>> *Sent:* Wed 8/1/2012 10:07 PM
>>> *Subject:* dc394 s17 retreats
>>>
>>> Hey guys, can't get you a map at the moment but here's official
>>> retreats. At least it lets you start on the next turn...
>>> Next - Monday! August 6.
>>> Enjoy,
>>> -mike
>>>
>>> RETREATS:
>>> GRR - Abb
>>> Riv - Mor
>>> Now - Wil
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
dc394 builds (dc394) FuzzyLogic Aug 11, 07:25 am
Alright, i'm on my way in.  waiting for train. See u around 9...


Sent from my Galaxy SII Skyrocket.


-------- Original message --------
Subject: Re: dc394 builds
From: James Burgess <jfburgess(at)gmail.com>
To: "<diplomacy(at)diffell.net>" <diplomacy(at)diffell.net>
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Sims hasn't shown up to world dipcon yet, he had better show up tomorrow!!! Right now I'm leading my second round game.

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> Aw, I sent in my builds with my retreats.
>
> Hoffman keeps threatening to give up, but he's all talk!  It takes real
> courage to give up!
>
> Jim-Bob, tell Sims to take a break from DipCon to send our maps.
>
> On Fri, 10 Aug 2012 08:33:36 -0400, Jim Burgess <jfburgess(at)gmail.com>
> wrote:
>> Agreed, that sounds good.  In front of all of you, we're saying that I'm
>> going to meet Mike Sims this weekend some time, right?  That's the only
>> good excuse for not getting the results out.
>>
>> Jim-Bob
>>
>> On Fri, Aug 10, 2012 at 1:40 AM, Mike Hoffman <mrh(at)panix.com> wrote:
>>
>>> If Brian missed his builds, just process. He doesn't need them anyway.
>>> Smile
>>> ---------
>>> "Sit Long, Talk Much, Laugh Often" -- anon
>>> "Shared Pain is lessened, Shared Joy is increased" --- Spider Robinson
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, Aug 9, 2012 at 5:51 PM, Michael Sims
>>> <mike(at)fuzzylogicllc.com>wrote:
>>>
>>>> Still waiting for one set of builds... but the retreats are in.  No
>>>> surprises:
>>>>
>>>> Chu - emo
>>>> Tne - mas
>>>>
>>>> WoC -> TGR
>>>> WMO -> ASB
>>>>
>>>> When I get the last set of builds I'll put out a new map...
>>>> -mike
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ------------------------------
>>>> *From:* Michael Sims
>>>> *Sent:* Mon 8/6/2012 12:21 PM
>>>> *Cc:* dc394
>>>> *Subject:* dc394 s17 retreats
>>>>
>>>> You guys need a new map to visualize the movement of 3 retreats?
>>>>
>>>> Pathetic!
>>>>
>>>> I tell ya...
>>>>
>>>> When I was young... maps were hammered out of stone... and if you make
> a
>>>> mistake - you dealt with it - and we only got a new map when the local
>>>> mason would carve out a new tablet from the quarry - so we drew lines
> in
>>>> the sand - and pretended rocks were armies - and sticks were fleets -
>>>> and
>>>> we liked it!
>>>>
>>>> No leniency.  Moves today!  Mwuhahahaha
>>>>
>>>> And then after this is the great World Dip Con here in Chicago.  Are
> any
>>>> of you going?  If not, you should.  Altho they won't hand draw
>>>> personalized
>>>> retreat maps for you in FTF... you have to <gasp> visualize your own!
>>>> Enjoy,
>>>> -mike
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ------------------------------
>>>> *From:* Michael Sims
>>>> *Sent:* Wed 8/1/2012 10:07 PM
>>>> *Subject:* dc394 s17 retreats
>>>>
>>>> Hey guys, can't get you a map at the moment but here's official
>>>> retreats.  At least it lets you start on the next turn...
>>>> Next - Monday!  August 6.
>>>> Enjoy,
>>>> -mike
>>>>
>>>> RETREATS:
>>>> GRR - Abb
>>>> Riv - Mor
>>>> Now - Wil
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> 
GMs open their own games? - Corrino   (Aug 09, 2012, 12:59 pm)
No, not unless you consider it a burden on you to create the games.

I think having a gatekeeper is a very good thing. He can vet the GM and the game parameters prior to it appearing on the forum. It is only a minor delay, from the GM'S perspective, and it is both a check on and a reassurance to the GM to know that a VRP (very responsible person) is keeping an eye on everything.

The problem with giving everyone the power to set up games on their own is that "everyone" includes a lot of idiots, which is to say not only the blatantly stupid and malicious people, but also all the nice folks who think they know what they're doing right up until the moment they totally screw everything up.

If you do want to get out from under having to set up every game yourself, I think you should (a) try to find another volunteer (no, not me) to do the job for you, or (b) modify your game-setup app so that anyone can set up a game but it still needs to be signed off by a VRP before being posted publicly.

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GMs open their own games? (Help & Suggestions) Zoterik Aug 13, 02:20 pm
I agree with Corrino on all points.
GMs open their own games? (Help & Suggestions) Blueraider0 Aug 15, 08:54 pm
I agree 100%, but theoretically only GMs could make games, so it isn't EVERYONE. Mike et al would still need to approve someone to be a GM, and could revoke that right if they spammed the open games list. So I agree, but don't think the problems pointed out are that relevant.

Mike, do you often turn down GM requests to run games?
GMs open their own games? (Help & Suggestions) FuzzyLogic Aug 16, 11:35 am
No, I rarely if ever turn down requests... I was just wondering if ppl having to go thru a moderator is a choke point. Maybe this casuses ppl who might otherwise see a create a game option to not create a game thinking maybe more is involved. The burden is not an issue at all.
GMs open their own games? (Help & Suggestions) Blueraider0 Aug 20, 04:44 pm
In that case I think the moderator helps. Making a game isn't terribly involving, but RUNNING one certainly is, and I think ensuring everyone goes through you is a subtle way to say "This is kind of a serious commitment." Dropping a game as a player is a drag, but dropping a game as a GM is a real hassle. But then again I've GM'd for a while. Maybe needing to go through a moderator is scaring off potential new GMs?
DC406: Spring 10 Results! - offdisc   (Aug 09, 2012, 2:11 am)
Hi All,
We are definitely winding down to the endgame, but play is vigorous! It's like watching the USA/China beach volleyball semi -- you have a good idea who will win, and yet the underdogs keep surprising. So much fun to watch!


World DipCon is also upon us, and I know several people are attending. I will be here in Denver, wishing I could be there, but not missing the heat and humidity (well, the humidity -- it's supposed to be damn hot here too). Have fun, and don't kill each other after seeing these results. Smile


A lot of movement with surprisingly few retreats (2) and disbands (1). Many powers even submitted perfect orders, all successful!

Retreats are due tomorrow, Thursday 8/9!!!  Fall moves will be due NEXT Thursday, 8/16 to allow for DipCon.


Retreats:
Knights: F BEAVERSDAM -> Cel, GRM,or OTB

Trolls: A Sorrows End -> Pyg,or OTB


Disbands:
Knights:A Tymwyvenne

Spring 10 Results:
----------------------------
Archers:
A Westmark Hold
A Drynwyn Hold

Dwarves:
A Diamond Mines Supports A Knurremurre - Tymwyvenne

A Hollow Earth - Spirit Pond
F Oz - Ella
F Rohan - SEA OF FALLEN STARS
F To-Gai-Ru - Palmaris
F Baldurs Gate - GULF OF LUHN
A Gumdrop Isle Hold
F Myth Drannor - CHURNING REACH
F The Julianthes - WEST MIRIANIC OCEAN

A Dragons Teeth Mtns - Knurremurre (*Bounce*)
A Knurremurre - Tymwyvenne
F WEST MIRIANIC OCEAN - Walk of Clouds
F NORTH MIRIANIC OCEAN Supports F Oz - Ella
F RUGGED COAST - CHOCOLATE RIVER
F RESTLESS WATERS - RIFT CANYON


Faeries:
A Vinyaya - Oz
F The Silver city Supports F TILVA STRAIT - BEAVERSDAM
F Ashan Supports F The Silver city
A Spiral Castle - Kingdom of Hearts (*Fails*)
A Walk of Clouds - Kender
A Land of Sweets - Fionavar (*Fails*)

A Acme Acres - Ranaar
F CHOCOLATE RIVER - Vinyaya
F HORNED BAY - Strawberry Fields

Gnomes:
A Hundred Acre Wood Supports A Avalon
F Khemri - Gwynir (*Fails*)
A Troldhaugen - Cave of Ordeals (*Bounce*)

A Avalon Hold

Knights:
A Paras Derval - Andarien Plain
A Brennin - Gwynir
F Grissel - Owlwood
A Grimpen Ward - Heavens Well
A Fionavar - Dragons Teeth Mtns (*Fails*)
F Telmar - Calormen
F Orboros - TROG BOG

A Sleepy Hollow Supports A Brennin - Gwynir
A Ice Reach - Knurremurre (*Bounce*)
F Owlwood - Tumnus
A River Saeren Supports A Fionavar - Dragons Teeth Mtns (*Cut*)
F Shady Vale - Land of Sweets (*Fails*)
A Tymwyvenne Supports A Ice Reach - Knurremurre (*Disbanded*)

F MIST MARSH - SUNLESS SEA
F SUNLESS SEA - Orboros
F BEAVERSDAM Supports F Ashan - Grimheim (*Dislodged*)

Leprechauns:
A Knockshegowna - Lubrick
F Ansalon - Ithin'Carthia(wc)
A Merrow - Necronomicon

A Hoarluk - Fafhrd
F RIVER STYX Hold
F THUNDERHEAD Convoys A Merrow - Necronomicon
F BABEL BEACH - Enchanted Isles

Magicians:
A Ergoth - Cyriss (*Fails*)
F Krynn - HIGH SEAS (*Fails*)
A Skellington - Tarsis

A Grendel Supports A Ergoth - Cyriss
F Dargaard Keep - EAST SEA OF SHADOWS (*Fails*)
F WEST SEA OF SHADOWS Convoys A Skellington - Tarsis

Nomads:
A Kingdom of Hearts - River Saeren (*Fails*)

Ogres:

F Gelfling - NORTH RAINBOW LAKE
F Newa River - Daniloth
F Mordor - Rivendell
A Lindon Hold
A Horborixen - Sinking Shore
A Nehwon - Uuno
F Lankhmar - Horborixen
F Fjord - BIKINI BOTTOM
A Niflheim Supports F Abby Normal - Sorrows End

A Everglot Supports A Skullcap - Uhl Belk
A Cyriss Hold
F Whoville - Powry
A Devils Canyon - Heresh
A Krikkit - Nowwhat
F Faerun - ROARING RAPIDS
F Thirsty Desert - Shining Stream
A Shining Stream - Magrathea

F Golgafrincham Supports F SEA OF FALLEN STARS - BABEL BEACH
F Groves of Academe - Newa River
A Twisted Tunnels - Hoarluk
F TILVA STRAIT - BEAVERSDAM
F BIKINI BOTTOM - Knockshegowna
F RIVER OF THE DAWN - Great Glacier


Pirates:
F Loxley - HORNED BAY
F Riku Supports F HIGH SEAS
A Pans Labyrinth - Kahvi
F Never Never Land - WAY THE HECK
A Travers Town - Maze of Regrets
A Neverpeak Mtn - Slightly Gulch
A Plains of Dust Supports A Cyriss

F Abby Normal - Sorrows End
A Elephant Graveyard - Loxley
F HIGH SEAS Convoys A Pans Labyrinth - Kahvi
F MERMAIDS LAGOON Convoys A Pans Labyrinth - Kahvi
F SEA OF FALLEN STARS - BABEL BEACH

Trolls:

A Sorrows End - Cave of Ordeals (*Dislodged*)

Undead:
A Skullcap - Uhl Belk
A Istar Supports A Everglot
F EAST SEA OF SHADOWS - Dargaard Keep (*Fails*)

Thanks,
Mike
---------
"Sit Long, Talk Much, Laugh Often" -- anon

"Shared Pain is lessened, Shared Joy is increased" --- Spider Robinson

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DC433 - Zoterik   (Aug 08, 2012, 10:33 pm)
It was the best of times, it was the worst of times... but it all depends on which side of the Mediterranean you watch the unfolding wars of conquest.  A busy Fall turn leads to five units dislodged, one of which (Egyptian A Petra) has no retreat and is disbanded.  Therefore we proceed to the Autumn 03 turn.  The necessary retreats and possible moves are provided below the orders.  Autumn 03 retreats are due at 9:00pm US Central on 10 August, or 03:00 BST on 11 August.  However, please note that due to my participation in the WDC, I will likely be adjudicating much later than that (possibly in the morning), so I thank you in advance for your patience.  Just to be safe, have the retreats submitted before the deadline as per usual. 

White Press from Rome: "The emperor welcomes all to see a magnificent site, Greek galleys burning at dusk...... Slave market business booming, rates slashed due to sudden stock increase."

 Carthage

F Punic Sea - Sardinia
F Berber Sea S Punic Sea - Sardinia
F Baleares - Ligurian SeaF Gulf of Tacape S F Thapsis - Punic Sea


F Thapsus - Punic Sea
A  Phazania - Leptis (*fails*)A Leptis - Cyrene (*bounce*)



 Egypt



A Petra - Sinai (*disbanded*)A Sinai - Thebes

F Alexandria - Cyrene (*bounce*)F Egyptian Sea - Crete (*dislodged*)

A Memphis - Bayuda


 Greece

A Illyria - VindonbonaA Dalmatia S A Illyria - Vindobona (*dislodged*)
A Miletus HoldsF Messenian Sea - Crete (*bounce*)
F Ionian Sea - Neapolis (*dislodged*)F Ausonian Sea - Tyrrhenian Sea

 Persia


A Arabia - JerusalemA Charsonesus - SarmatiaF Cilician Strait - Egyptian Sea


F Cyprus S F Cilician Strait - Egyptian SeaF Gulf of Pelusium - Sinai (*bounce*)A Jerusalem - Petra


A Nabatea S A Jerusalem - PetraF Syrian Sea S F Cilician Strait - Egyptian Sea



 Rome
A Vindobona - Dalmatia
A Venetia S Vindobona - DalmatiaF Apulia S F Neapolis - Ionian SeaF Neapolis - Ionian Sea
F Ravenna - Adriatic SeaF Sardinia - Punic Sea (*dislodged*)F Tyrrhenian Sea - Sicily

Egyptian F Egyptian Sea can retreat to Minoan Sea or Libyan Sea.
Greek A Dalmatia can retreat to Illyria or Epirus.Greek F Ionian Sea can retreat to Ausonian Sea, Epirus, Sparta or Athens.
Roman F Sardinia can retreat to Corsica.

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DC428 Winter 1905 Adjustments - Zoterik   (Aug 08, 2012, 10:12 pm)
I made a counting error last turn:  Italy now has six supply centers, not five.  
The Spring 1906 orders are due at 9:00 US Central time on 12 August, or 03:00 BST on 13 August.  Thank you in advance for your patience this weekend; I will participate in the WDC here in Chicago, and therefore be unable to confirm order submissions for most of the day.  


AustriaDisband F Adriatic Sea



EnglandBuild F London



FranceDisband A Marseilles

GermanyBuild F Kiel



ItalyBuild A Naples

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DC406: Extension!! Thursday!!! - offdisc   (Aug 08, 2012, 4:19 pm)
UPDATE!!!!!!   I now have moves from all players, so I will process moves sometime tonight. You have a few hours to make any changes, but I will not wait until Thursday night.

Thanks,
Mike
---------

"Sit Long, Talk Much, Laugh Often" -- anon
"Shared Pain is lessened, Shared Joy is increased" --- Spider Robinson




On Tue, Aug 7, 2012 at 7:39 PM, Mike Hoffman <mrh(at)panix.com> wrote:

Extension due to illness. Thursday is the new deadline.  Which means y'all can discuss in person at World DipCon!  Wish I could be there to hand them to you personally.Mike---------

"Sit Long, Talk Much, Laugh Often" -- anon

"Shared Pain is lessened, Shared Joy is increased" --- Spider Robinson

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dc414 spring 10 adjudication - jerome777   (Aug 08, 2012, 3:39 pm)
Hi everyone,

Here's the moves;

England:
A Belgium - Picardy
F Brest Supports A Belgium - Picardy
A Burgundy Supports F Spain(sc) - Marseilles (*Cut*)
F Gascony - Spain(nc) (*Fails*)
F London - English Channel
F Mid-Atlantic Ocean - North Africa
F North Sea Hold
A Silesia - Galicia
F Spain(sc) - Marseilles (*Fails*)
F St Petersburg(nc) Hold

France:
A Paris Hold

Germany:
A Bohemia - Silesia
A Kiel - Berlin
A Marseilles Supports A Munich - Burgundy (*Cut*)
A Munich - Burgundy (*Fails*)
A Tyrolia - Munich (*Dislodged*)
A Ukraine - Moscow
A Warsaw Supports A Ukraine - Moscow

Italy:
F Black Sea Supports A Sevastopol
A Budapest Supports A Vienna
A Bulgaria - Rumania
F Gulf of Lyon Convoys A Rome - Piedmont
F Ionian Sea Convoys A Naples - Tunis
A Naples -
Tunis
A Piedmont - Tyrolia
A Rome - Piedmont
A Serbia Supports A Bulgaria - Rumania
A Sevastopol Supports A Bulgaria - Rumania
F Trieste - Adriatic Sea
F Tyrrhenian Sea Convoys A Rome - Piedmont
A Venice Supports A Piedmont - Tyrolia
A Vienna Hold

Russia:
A Moscow Supports A Rumania - Sevastopol (*Dislodged*)
A Rumania - Sevastopol (*Dislodged*)

OK, so we have retreats:

Russian A Moscow can retreat to Livonia.
Russian A Rumania can retreat to Ukraine.
German A Tyrolia can retreat to Bohemia or Trieste.

Gentlemen, please let me know your retreats by 2000GMT Friday 10 August.

Best,

Jerome

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DC431 Fall 1902 Results - smileyrob   (Aug 08, 2012, 12:52 pm)
Gentlemen,
Again I must apologize for the delay in publishing these results. I worked way too late into the evening last night,. I knew Tuesdays were going to be a busy day for me during the course of this game, and I should likely have made the deadlines either Mon/Wed or Wed/Fri. I hope I haven't inconvenienced or frustrated any of you too much.


First things first, the proposal to concede to Russia fails. However it has been proposed again, so please vote with your Spring 1903 orders.

We are beginning to see more separation in size amongst the powers, with Russia, France and Germany putting some distance between themselves and the rest. Austria and Italy are treading water, while Britain and maybe Turkey might be sinking.


I need a winter order from everyone save Jerome. Those are due by Thursday 8PM PDT. Unless someone request otherwise, I will adjudicate when I have all the orders. Remember you can condition your adjustments on other players' retreats. As it is possible for Italy to retreat to Marseilles, at the very least I will need conditional adjustment orders from Sun.


DC431 (1900 DIPLOMACY) FALL 1902 ADJUDICATION

PLAYERS:

Austria: Jerome Payne jerome777(at)ymail.com
Britain: Ethan Schubert schu9914(at)vandals.uidaho.edu (abandoned Winter 1900)







            Mark Utterback MDemagogue(at)gmail.com (from Winter 1900)


France: Michael Nickles flexpoint1(at)gmail.com (resigned Fall 1901)
  Sun Chung sun.chung(at)gmail.com (from Fall 1901)






Germany: Andrew Tanner amtrating(at)gmail.com

Italy: Jack McHugh jwmchughjr(at)gmail.com
Russia: Lynn Mercer hancockfc(at)yahoo.com

Turkey: Michael Thompson psychosis(at)sky.com

HEADLINES:
British home centers completely conquered by French and German navies.
Fighting remains fierce in and around Switzerland, but Austrians retain control for another year.

Italian forces expelled from Trieste.
Sultan orders all Turkish units west, abandons homeland to Russia.

ORDERS:
Britain: F Denmark Hold (*Dislodged* can retreat to Baltic Sea or OTB).
Britain: F Tripolitania Hold.


Britain: F Barents Sea - St Petersburg(nc) (*Fails*).
Britain: F Skagerrak - Sweden (*Fails*).

Austria: A Milan - Switzerland.
Austria: A Tyrolia - Vienna.
Austria: A Budapest Supports F Bosnia - Trieste.


Austria: F Bosnia - Trieste.
Austria: A Serbia Supports F Bosnia - Trieste.

France: F London Hold.
France: A Brest - Picardy.
France: A Burgundy - Alsace (*Bounce*).
France: A Marseilles - Piedmont.


France: A Algeria Hold.
France: F Irish Sea - Liverpool.

Germany: F Clyde - Edinburgh.
Germany: F Kiel - Denmark.
Germany: A Cologne - Alsace (*Bounce*).
Germany: A Munich Supports A Milan - Switzerland.


Germany: F Netherlands - North Sea.
Germany: A Belgium - Burgundy (*Fails*).
Germany: F Helgoland Bight Supports F Kiel - Denmark.

Italy: A Rome - Milan.
Italy: A Trieste Hold (*Dislodged* can retreat to Tyrolia or Venetia or OTB).


Italy: A Switzerland Supports A Rome - Milan (*Dislodged* can retreat to Tyrolia or Marseilles or OTB).
Italy: F Adriatic Sea Supports A Trieste.

Russia: A St Petersburg Supports A Norway (*Cut*).
Russia: A Constantinople - Konya.


Russia: F Ankara Hold.
Russia: A Finland Supports F Sweden.
Russia: A Ukraine - Rumania.
Russia: A Norway Supports F Sweden.
Russia: F Sweden Supports F Kiel - Denmark (*Cut*).
Russia: A Bulgaria Supports A Ukraine - Rumania.


Russia: F Black Sea - Constantinople.

Turkey: A Greece - Macedonia.
Turkey: A Egypt - Cyrenaica.
Turkey: F Ionian Sea - Tyrrhenian Sea.
Turkey: F Eastern Mediterranean - Ionian Sea.

THE FOLLOWING UNITS WERE DISLODGED:


British F Denmark can retreat to Baltic Sea or OTB.
Italian A Trieste can retreat to Tyrolia or Venetia or OTB.
Italian A Switzerland can retreat to Tyrolia or Marseilles or OTB.

UNIT LOCATIONS:
Britain:   F Tripolitania, F Barents Sea, F Skagerrak, (F Baltic Sea/OTB)


Austria:   A Vienna, A Budapest, F Trieste, A Switzerland, A Serbia.
France:    F Liverpool, F London, A Picardy, A Burgundy, A Algeria, A Piedmont.
Germany:   F Denmark, F Edinburgh, A Cologne, A Munich, A Belgium, F North Sea, F Helgoland Bight.


Italy:     A Milan, F Adriatic Sea, (A Tyrolia/Venetia/OTB), (A Tyrolia/Marseilles/OTB)
Russia:    A St Petersburg, F Constantinople, F Ankara, A Konya, A Finland, A Norway, F Sweden, A Rumania, A Bulgaria.
Turkey:    A Macedonia, A Cyrenaica, F Tyrrhenian Sea, F Ionian Sea.



OWNERSHIP OF SUPPLY CENTERS (after retreats):
Britain (4-4+1=1):   /-Edinburgh/, /-Liverpool/, /-London/, /-Algeria/, (+Tripolitania).
Austria (5-0+0=5):   Vienna, Budapest, Trieste, Switzerland, Serbia.

France (6-0/1+3=9/Cool:    Spain, Brest, Paris, /?-Marseilles?/, Portugal, Morocco, (+Liverpool), (+London), (+Algeria)
Germany (7-0+1=Cool:   Denmark, Kiel, Cologne, Berlin, Munich, Netherlands, Belgium, (+Edinburgh)

Italy (4-1+0/1=3/4):     Milan, Rome, Naples, /-Tripolitania/, (?+Marseilles?)
Russia (9-0+1=10):    St Petersburg, Constantinople, Warsaw, Moscow, Sevastopol, Norway, Sweden, Rumania, Bulgaria, (+Ankara)
Turkey (4-1+0=3):    Greece, Egypt, /-Ankara/, Damascus.


Britain:    1 Supply center,  4(3) Units:  Disbands   3 units. (If F Denmark retreats OTB, disbands 2 units)
Austria:    5 Supply centers,  5 Units:  Builds   0 units.
France:     8/9 Supply centers,  6 Units:  Builds   2/3 units. (Depending on whether or not Italian A Switzerland retreats to Marseilles), (Can build in Brest, Paris, and perhaps Marseilles)

Germany:    8 Supply centers,  7 Units:  Builds   1 unit. (Can build in Berlin or Kiel)
Italy:      4/3 Supply centers,  4(2) Units:  Builds   0 units. (If Swi retreats to Mar/OTB and Tri retreats OTB, Build 1 unit, can build in Naples or Rome), There are quite a few other permutations depending on Italian retreats. Jack just send me the correct build orders whatever choices you make.

Russia:     10 Supply centers,  9 Units:  Builds   1 unit. (Can build in Moscow, Sevastopol, or Warsaw)
Turkey:     3 Supply centers,  4 Units:  Disbands   1 unit.


UPCOMING DEADLINES:

Winter 1902 retreats/adjustments:                 Thursday, August 9, 8PM PDT (Friday, August 10, 3 AM GMT)
Spring 1903 orders:                                       Tuesday, August 14, 8PM PDT (Wednesday, August 15, 3 AM GMT)

Summer 1903 retreats:                                  Thursday, August 16, 8PM PDT (Friday, August 17, 3 AM GMT)

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DC406: Extension!! Thursday!!! - offdisc   (Aug 07, 2012, 8:39 pm)
Extension due to illness. Thursday is the new deadline.  Which means y'all can discuss in person at World DipCon!  Wish I could be there to hand them to you personally.Mike---------
"Sit Long, Talk Much, Laugh Often" -- anon

"Shared Pain is lessened, Shared Joy is increased" --- Spider Robinson

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DC406: Extension!! Thursday!!! (dc406) offdisc Aug 08, 04:19 pm
UPDATE!!!!!!   I now have moves from all players, so I will process moves sometime tonight. You have a few hours to make any changes, but I will not wait until Thursday night.

Thanks,
Mike
---------

"Sit Long, Talk Much, Laugh Often" -- anon
"Shared Pain is lessened, Shared Joy is increased" --- Spider Robinson




On Tue, Aug 7, 2012 at 7:39 PM, Mike Hoffman <mrh(at)panix.com> wrote:

Extension due to illness. Thursday is the new deadline.  Which means y'all can discuss in person at World DipCon!  Wish I could be there to hand them to you personally.Mike---------

"Sit Long, Talk Much, Laugh Often" -- anon

"Shared Pain is lessened, Shared Joy is increased" --- Spider Robinson
DC406: World Dip Championships - laxrulz777   (Aug 07, 2012, 3:45 pm)
I'm jealous... here's hoping you don't get Italy Wink

On Tue, Aug 7, 2012 at 4:37 PM, Michael Sims <mike(at)fuzzylogicllc.com> wrote:



I may (said in true non-committal dip fashion) come out for a round or two on Saturday.  I live here... but will be out of town Thu/Fri so I can't make the whole shebang.
-mike
 


From: Christopher Martin [mailto:dance.scholar(at)gmail.com]
Sent: Tue 8/7/2012 3:29 PM
To: mrh(at)panix.com

Subject: DC406: World Dip Championships


Hello all!


I am flying into Chicago on Thursday morning for my NINTH World Diplomacy Championship.  WOW.  I am so much looking forward to it, I can't tell you.


But I would love to meet any of y'all who are going to be there!  Who is going?  


Chris "Dancing Queen" Martin


--
It is better to be silent and thought a fool than to speak and remove all doubt
-Abraham Lincoln


The problem with Internet quotes is that you can never be certain of their accuracy
-Abraham Lincoln

[Reply]

DC406: World Dip Championships - FuzzyLogic   (Aug 07, 2012, 3:37 pm)
I may (said in true non-committal dip fashion) come out for a round or two on Saturday.  I live here... but will be out of town Thu/Fri so I can't make the whole shebang.
-mike
 



From: Christopher Martin [mailto:dance.scholar(at)gmail.com]
Sent: Tue 8/7/2012 3:29 PM
To: mrh(at)panix.com
Subject: DC406: World Dip Championships


Hello all!


I am flying into Chicago on Thursday morning for my NINTH World Diplomacy Championship.  WOW.  I am so much looking forward to it, I can't tell you.


But I would love to meet any of y'all who are going to be there!  Who is going?  


Chris "Dancing Queen" Martin

[Reply]

DC406: World Dip Championships - DancingQueen   (Aug 07, 2012, 3:29 pm)
Hello all!
I am flying into Chicago on Thursday morning for my NINTH World Diplomacy Championship.  WOW.  I am so much looking forward to it, I can't tell you.
But I would love to meet any of y'all who are going to be there!  Who is going?  

Chris "Dancing Queen" Martin

[Reply]

DC406: World Dip Championships (dc406) FuzzyLogic Aug 07, 03:37 pm
I may (said in true non-committal dip fashion) come out for a round or two on Saturday.  I live here... but will be out of town Thu/Fri so I can't make the whole shebang.
-mike
 



From: Christopher Martin [mailto:dance.scholar(at)gmail.com]
Sent: Tue 8/7/2012 3:29 PM
To: mrh(at)panix.com
Subject: DC406: World Dip Championships


Hello all!


I am flying into Chicago on Thursday morning for my NINTH World Diplomacy Championship.  WOW.  I am so much looking forward to it, I can't tell you.


But I would love to meet any of y'all who are going to be there!  Who is going?  


Chris "Dancing Queen" Martin
DC406: World Dip Championships (dc406) laxrulz777 Aug 07, 03:45 pm
I'm jealous... here's hoping you don't get Italy Wink

On Tue, Aug 7, 2012 at 4:37 PM, Michael Sims <mike(at)fuzzylogicllc.com> wrote:



I may (said in true non-committal dip fashion) come out for a round or two on Saturday.  I live here... but will be out of town Thu/Fri so I can't make the whole shebang.
-mike
 


From: Christopher Martin [mailto:dance.scholar(at)gmail.com]
Sent: Tue 8/7/2012 3:29 PM
To: mrh(at)panix.com

Subject: DC406: World Dip Championships


Hello all!


I am flying into Chicago on Thursday morning for my NINTH World Diplomacy Championship.  WOW.  I am so much looking forward to it, I can't tell you.


But I would love to meet any of y'all who are going to be there!  Who is going?  


Chris "Dancing Queen" Martin


--
It is better to be silent and thought a fool than to speak and remove all doubt
-Abraham Lincoln


The problem with Internet quotes is that you can never be certain of their accuracy
-Abraham Lincoln
dc414 spring 10 48hr extension - jerome777   (Aug 07, 2012, 2:45 pm)
The deadline is 24 hours away, 2000GMT tomorrow.

Hope you're all enjoying the Olympics, London has gone mad!

Jerome

[Reply]

dc394 f17 results! - offdisc   (Aug 07, 2012, 11:49 am)
Just to make it more interesting, retreat all my units OTB.
No, that would be giving up.  So just retreat WMO -> To-Ga-Ru and retreat WoC -> TGR.

Thanks,
Mike
---------
"Sit Long, Talk Much, Laugh Often" -- anon

"Shared Pain is lessened, Shared Joy is increased" --- Spider Robinson




On Tue, Aug 7, 2012 at 9:34 AM, Michael Sims <mike(at)fuzzylogicllc.com> wrote:




The Knights and Hobbits trade dots, the Hobbits and Elves trade dots, and the Rogues are the big winners at the expense of the Elves... altho I'm sure the Elves are happy to have snuck into Waterdeep to stay on 2 dots!
 
Retreats, tomorrow - tho get me these asap since it's just Hoffman and Brian.  I'll be travelling tomorrow so I'd like to put these and the builds out.
 
Knight A The Neverwood can retreat to Maze of Regrets.
Knight F CHURNING REACH can retreat to EAST MIRIANIC OCEAN or
           Port Ghaast or Myth Drannor.

Rogue A Walk of Clouds can retreat to Corona or To-Gai-Ru.
Rogue F WEST MIRIANIC OCEAN can retreat to To-Gai-Ru or The
           Julianthes or ALL SAINTS BAY.
 
BUILDS!  Submit these too, since we can pretty much assume ppl aren't going to take retreats OTB:
 
Dwarves:  +1
Knights:  +2
Rogues:  +3
Elves:  -2
 
ORDERS:
 
Dwarves:
A Gelfling Supports A Garthim (*Cut*)
A Prekkendorran Hts Supports A Gelfling
A Lindon - Golgafrincham (*Fails*)
A Magrathea - The Wilderland
A Devils Canyon Hold

A Valley of Lost Honor - Shining Stream
A Great Steppes - Silvanesti
F Hoarluk Hold
A Heresh - Uuno
A Ilthmar Supports A Devils Canyon
 
Elves:
A Caer Hold
F Florin - Gelfling (*Fails*)
A Faerun - Waterdeep
F ROARING RAPIDS Supports F Florin - Gelfling
 
Hobbits:
A Garthim Hold
F Rohan Supports F Rivendell - Mordor (*Fails*)
A Pans Labyrinth - The Neverwood
A Fjord Supports A Magrathea - The Wilderland
F Baldurs Gate Supports F GULF OF LUHN - Yuirwood

A Two Towers Supports A Nowwhat
A Thirsty Desert - Krikkit (*Bounce*)
A Nowwhat Supports A Magrathea - The Wilderland
F GRIEF REEF Supports F HIGH SEAS - Riku
F HIGH SEAS - Riku (*Bounce*)
F MERMAIDS LAGOON - Parce Pass (*Fails*)

F HORNED BAY - Strawberry Fields (*Fails*)
F RESTLESS WATERS - Travers Town (*Fails*)
F GULF OF LUHN - Yuirwood
 
Knights:
A Llyr - Loxley
A Loxley - Prydain
A Tumnus - Owlwood (*Fails*)
F Grissel Supports F SABLES SWAMP - TROG BOG
A Mount Nimro Hold
A Newa River - Groves of Academe

A Mordor - Candlekeep
A The Neverwood Supports A Travers Town (*Dislodged*)
A Grimheim - Ashan (*Fails*)
A Archenland - Aslan
A Troldhaugen - Cave of Ordeals (*Fails*)
A Travers Town Supports A The Neverwood (*Cut*)

A Neverpeak Mtn - Slightly Gulch
F Dimmsdale - Walk of Clouds
F Myth Drannor - RAZORS EDGE
A Calormen - Orboros (*Fails*)
A Owlwood - Troldhaugen (*Fails*)
A Cave of Ordeals - Sorrows End (*Fails*)
F Abby Normal - THON THALAS (*Fails*)

A The Wilderland - Krikkit (*Disbanded*)
A Golgafrincham - The Wilderland (*Fails*)
A Parce Pass - Riku (*Bounce*)
F Camelittle Supports A Parce Pass - Riku
A Daniloth - Newa River
F Strawberry Fields Hold

A Daisy Meadows - Oz
A Cliffs of Insanity - Llyr
A Hidden Grotto Hold
A Yggdrasil Supports A Troldhaugen - Cave of Ordeals (*Fails*)
A Carpantha - Hollow Earth
A Ancient Necropolis - Hoarluk (*Fails*)
A Twisted Tunnels Supports A Ancient Necropolis - Hoarluk

A Snow Witch - Undermountain (*Bounce*)
A Venatori Umbrarum - Undermountain (*Bounce*)
F CELESTIAL DELTA Supports F BEAVERSDAM
F SUNLESS SEA Convoys A Calormen - Orboros
F BEAVERSDAM Supports A Calormen - Orboros

F TILVA STRAIT Supports F Dimmsdale - Walk of Clouds
F SABLES SWAMP - TROG BOG
F CHURNING REACH - The Julianthes (*Dislodged*)
F EAST MIRIANIC OCEAN - WEST MIRIANIC OCEAN
F NORTH MIRIANIC Supports F EAST MIRIANIC - WEST MIRIANIC

F RIFT CANYON Supports F Myth Drannor - RAZORS EDGE
F RAZORS EDGE - Kara-Tur
 
Rogues:
A Fitzgibbon Hold
A The Silver city Supports F Orboros
F Ashan Supports F WEST MIRIANIC OCEAN - TILVA STRAIT (*Void*)
A Sorrows End Hold
F Orboros Supports F TROG BOG - Grissel (*Cut*)

A Fafhrd Supports F Hoarluk
F Great Glacier Supports F The Julianthes - CHURNING REACH
A Zhentil Keep Supports F Great Glacier
F The Julianthes - CHURNING REACH
A Pygmy Supports F Orboros
A Kender Supports F Ashan

A Walk of Clouds - Dimmsdale (*Dislodged*)
A Powry Supports F Hoarluk
F Rivendell Supports F Rohan - Mordor (*Void*)
F The High Way Supports A Pans Labyrinth (*Ordered to Move*)
A Dragon Coast Supports F Great Glacier

A Thra Supports A Great Steppes - Silvanesti
F Dhunia Supports A Great Steppes - Silvanesti
F Pwyll Supports F The Julianthes - CHURNING REACH
F POOL OF RADIANCE Supports F Ashan
F TROG BOG - Grissel (*Disbanded*)

F THON THALAS Supports A Sorrows End (*Cut*)
F SAVAGE SEA - Skullcap
F ZEBOIMS DEEP Supports F The Julianthes - CHURNING REACH
F WEST MIRIANIC OCEAN - EAST MIRIANIC OCEAN (*Dislodged*)
F PIRATE SHOALS Supports A Pans Labyrinth - The Neverwood

F NORTH RAINBOW LAKE Convoys A Great Steppes - Silvanesti
F SOUTH RAINBOW LAKE Convoys A Great Steppes - Silvanesti
 
 

[Reply]

dc394 f17 results! - FuzzyLogic   (Aug 07, 2012, 10:34 am)
The Knights and Hobbits trade dots, the Hobbits and Elves trade dots, and the Rogues are the big winners at the expense of the Elves... altho I'm sure the Elves are happy to have snuck into Waterdeep to stay on 2 dots!
 
Retreats, tomorrow - tho get me these asap since it's just Hoffman and Brian.  I'll be travelling tomorrow so I'd like to put these and the builds out.
 
Knight A The Neverwood can retreat to Maze of Regrets.
Knight F CHURNING REACH can retreat to EAST MIRIANIC OCEAN or
           Port Ghaast or Myth Drannor.

Rogue A Walk of Clouds can retreat to Corona or To-Gai-Ru.
Rogue F WEST MIRIANIC OCEAN can retreat to To-Gai-Ru or The
           Julianthes or ALL SAINTS BAY.
 
BUILDS!  Submit these too, since we can pretty much assume ppl aren't going to take retreats OTB:
 
Dwarves:  +1
Knights:  +2
Rogues:  +3

Elves:  -2
 
ORDERS:
 
Dwarves:
A Gelfling Supports A Garthim (*Cut*)
A Prekkendorran Hts Supports A Gelfling
A Lindon - Golgafrincham (*Fails*)
A Magrathea - The Wilderland
A Devils Canyon Hold
A Valley of Lost Honor - Shining Stream
A Great Steppes - Silvanesti
F Hoarluk Hold
A Heresh - Uuno
A Ilthmar Supports A Devils Canyon
 
Elves:
A Caer Hold
F Florin - Gelfling (*Fails*)
A Faerun - Waterdeep
F ROARING RAPIDS Supports F Florin - Gelfling
 
Hobbits:
A Garthim Hold
F Rohan Supports F Rivendell - Mordor (*Fails*)
A Pans Labyrinth - The Neverwood
A Fjord Supports A Magrathea - The Wilderland
F Baldurs Gate Supports F GULF OF LUHN - Yuirwood
A Two Towers Supports A Nowwhat
A Thirsty Desert - Krikkit (*Bounce*)
A Nowwhat Supports A Magrathea - The Wilderland
F GRIEF REEF Supports F HIGH SEAS - Riku
F HIGH SEAS - Riku (*Bounce*)
F MERMAIDS LAGOON - Parce Pass (*Fails*)
F HORNED BAY - Strawberry Fields (*Fails*)
F RESTLESS WATERS - Travers Town (*Fails*)
F GULF OF LUHN - Yuirwood
 
Knights:
A Llyr - Loxley
A Loxley - Prydain
A Tumnus - Owlwood (*Fails*)
F Grissel Supports F SABLES SWAMP - TROG BOG
A Mount Nimro Hold
A Newa River - Groves of Academe
A Mordor - Candlekeep
A The Neverwood Supports A Travers Town (*Dislodged*)
A Grimheim - Ashan (*Fails*)
A Archenland - Aslan
A Troldhaugen - Cave of Ordeals (*Fails*)
A Travers Town Supports A The Neverwood (*Cut*)
A Neverpeak Mtn - Slightly Gulch
F Dimmsdale - Walk of Clouds
F Myth Drannor - RAZORS EDGE
A Calormen - Orboros (*Fails*)
A Owlwood - Troldhaugen (*Fails*)
A Cave of Ordeals - Sorrows End (*Fails*)
F Abby Normal - THON THALAS (*Fails*)
A The Wilderland - Krikkit (*Disbanded*)
A Golgafrincham - The Wilderland (*Fails*)
A Parce Pass - Riku (*Bounce*)
F Camelittle Supports A Parce Pass - Riku
A Daniloth - Newa River
F Strawberry Fields Hold
A Daisy Meadows - Oz
A Cliffs of Insanity - Llyr
A Hidden Grotto Hold
A Yggdrasil Supports A Troldhaugen - Cave of Ordeals (*Fails*)
A Carpantha - Hollow Earth
A Ancient Necropolis - Hoarluk (*Fails*)
A Twisted Tunnels Supports A Ancient Necropolis - Hoarluk
A Snow Witch - Undermountain (*Bounce*)
A Venatori Umbrarum - Undermountain (*Bounce*)
F CELESTIAL DELTA Supports F BEAVERSDAM
F SUNLESS SEA Convoys A Calormen - Orboros
F BEAVERSDAM Supports A Calormen - Orboros
F TILVA STRAIT Supports F Dimmsdale - Walk of Clouds
F SABLES SWAMP - TROG BOG
F CHURNING REACH - The Julianthes (*Dislodged*)
F EAST MIRIANIC OCEAN - WEST MIRIANIC OCEAN
F NORTH MIRIANIC Supports F EAST MIRIANIC - WEST MIRIANIC
F RIFT CANYON Supports F Myth Drannor - RAZORS EDGE
F RAZORS EDGE - Kara-Tur
 
Rogues:
A Fitzgibbon Hold
A The Silver city Supports F Orboros
F Ashan Supports F WEST MIRIANIC OCEAN - TILVA STRAIT (*Void*)
A Sorrows End Hold
F Orboros Supports F TROG BOG - Grissel (*Cut*)
A Fafhrd Supports F Hoarluk
F Great Glacier Supports F The Julianthes - CHURNING REACH
A Zhentil Keep Supports F Great Glacier
F The Julianthes - CHURNING REACH
A Pygmy Supports F Orboros
A Kender Supports F Ashan
A Walk of Clouds - Dimmsdale (*Dislodged*)
A Powry Supports F Hoarluk
F Rivendell Supports F Rohan - Mordor (*Void*)
F The High Way Supports A Pans Labyrinth (*Ordered to Move*)
A Dragon Coast Supports F Great Glacier
A Thra Supports A Great Steppes - Silvanesti
F Dhunia Supports A Great Steppes - Silvanesti
F Pwyll Supports F The Julianthes - CHURNING REACH
F POOL OF RADIANCE Supports F Ashan
F TROG BOG - Grissel (*Disbanded*)
F THON THALAS Supports A Sorrows End (*Cut*)
F SAVAGE SEA - Skullcap
F ZEBOIMS DEEP Supports F The Julianthes - CHURNING REACH
F WEST MIRIANIC OCEAN - EAST MIRIANIC OCEAN (*Dislodged*)
F PIRATE SHOALS Supports A Pans Labyrinth - The Neverwood
F NORTH RAINBOW LAKE Convoys A Great Steppes - Silvanesti
F SOUTH RAINBOW LAKE Convoys A Great Steppes - Silvanesti
 
 

[Reply]

dc394 f17 results! (dc394) offdisc Aug 07, 11:49 am
Just to make it more interesting, retreat all my units OTB.
No, that would be giving up.  So just retreat WMO -> To-Ga-Ru and retreat WoC -> TGR.

Thanks,
Mike
---------
"Sit Long, Talk Much, Laugh Often" -- anon

"Shared Pain is lessened, Shared Joy is increased" --- Spider Robinson




On Tue, Aug 7, 2012 at 9:34 AM, Michael Sims <mike(at)fuzzylogicllc.com> wrote:




The Knights and Hobbits trade dots, the Hobbits and Elves trade dots, and the Rogues are the big winners at the expense of the Elves... altho I'm sure the Elves are happy to have snuck into Waterdeep to stay on 2 dots!
 
Retreats, tomorrow - tho get me these asap since it's just Hoffman and Brian.  I'll be travelling tomorrow so I'd like to put these and the builds out.
 
Knight A The Neverwood can retreat to Maze of Regrets.
Knight F CHURNING REACH can retreat to EAST MIRIANIC OCEAN or
           Port Ghaast or Myth Drannor.

Rogue A Walk of Clouds can retreat to Corona or To-Gai-Ru.
Rogue F WEST MIRIANIC OCEAN can retreat to To-Gai-Ru or The
           Julianthes or ALL SAINTS BAY.
 
BUILDS!  Submit these too, since we can pretty much assume ppl aren't going to take retreats OTB:
 
Dwarves:  +1
Knights:  +2
Rogues:  +3
Elves:  -2
 
ORDERS:
 
Dwarves:
A Gelfling Supports A Garthim (*Cut*)
A Prekkendorran Hts Supports A Gelfling
A Lindon - Golgafrincham (*Fails*)
A Magrathea - The Wilderland
A Devils Canyon Hold

A Valley of Lost Honor - Shining Stream
A Great Steppes - Silvanesti
F Hoarluk Hold
A Heresh - Uuno
A Ilthmar Supports A Devils Canyon
 
Elves:
A Caer Hold
F Florin - Gelfling (*Fails*)
A Faerun - Waterdeep
F ROARING RAPIDS Supports F Florin - Gelfling
 
Hobbits:
A Garthim Hold
F Rohan Supports F Rivendell - Mordor (*Fails*)
A Pans Labyrinth - The Neverwood
A Fjord Supports A Magrathea - The Wilderland
F Baldurs Gate Supports F GULF OF LUHN - Yuirwood

A Two Towers Supports A Nowwhat
A Thirsty Desert - Krikkit (*Bounce*)
A Nowwhat Supports A Magrathea - The Wilderland
F GRIEF REEF Supports F HIGH SEAS - Riku
F HIGH SEAS - Riku (*Bounce*)
F MERMAIDS LAGOON - Parce Pass (*Fails*)

F HORNED BAY - Strawberry Fields (*Fails*)
F RESTLESS WATERS - Travers Town (*Fails*)
F GULF OF LUHN - Yuirwood
 
Knights:
A Llyr - Loxley
A Loxley - Prydain
A Tumnus - Owlwood (*Fails*)
F Grissel Supports F SABLES SWAMP - TROG BOG
A Mount Nimro Hold
A Newa River - Groves of Academe

A Mordor - Candlekeep
A The Neverwood Supports A Travers Town (*Dislodged*)
A Grimheim - Ashan (*Fails*)
A Archenland - Aslan
A Troldhaugen - Cave of Ordeals (*Fails*)
A Travers Town Supports A The Neverwood (*Cut*)

A Neverpeak Mtn - Slightly Gulch
F Dimmsdale - Walk of Clouds
F Myth Drannor - RAZORS EDGE
A Calormen - Orboros (*Fails*)
A Owlwood - Troldhaugen (*Fails*)
A Cave of Ordeals - Sorrows End (*Fails*)
F Abby Normal - THON THALAS (*Fails*)

A The Wilderland - Krikkit (*Disbanded*)
A Golgafrincham - The Wilderland (*Fails*)
A Parce Pass - Riku (*Bounce*)
F Camelittle Supports A Parce Pass - Riku
A Daniloth - Newa River
F Strawberry Fields Hold

A Daisy Meadows - Oz
A Cliffs of Insanity - Llyr
A Hidden Grotto Hold
A Yggdrasil Supports A Troldhaugen - Cave of Ordeals (*Fails*)
A Carpantha - Hollow Earth
A Ancient Necropolis - Hoarluk (*Fails*)
A Twisted Tunnels Supports A Ancient Necropolis - Hoarluk

A Snow Witch - Undermountain (*Bounce*)
A Venatori Umbrarum - Undermountain (*Bounce*)
F CELESTIAL DELTA Supports F BEAVERSDAM
F SUNLESS SEA Convoys A Calormen - Orboros
F BEAVERSDAM Supports A Calormen - Orboros

F TILVA STRAIT Supports F Dimmsdale - Walk of Clouds
F SABLES SWAMP - TROG BOG
F CHURNING REACH - The Julianthes (*Dislodged*)
F EAST MIRIANIC OCEAN - WEST MIRIANIC OCEAN
F NORTH MIRIANIC Supports F EAST MIRIANIC - WEST MIRIANIC

F RIFT CANYON Supports F Myth Drannor - RAZORS EDGE
F RAZORS EDGE - Kara-Tur
 
Rogues:
A Fitzgibbon Hold
A The Silver city Supports F Orboros
F Ashan Supports F WEST MIRIANIC OCEAN - TILVA STRAIT (*Void*)
A Sorrows End Hold
F Orboros Supports F TROG BOG - Grissel (*Cut*)

A Fafhrd Supports F Hoarluk
F Great Glacier Supports F The Julianthes - CHURNING REACH
A Zhentil Keep Supports F Great Glacier
F The Julianthes - CHURNING REACH
A Pygmy Supports F Orboros
A Kender Supports F Ashan

A Walk of Clouds - Dimmsdale (*Dislodged*)
A Powry Supports F Hoarluk
F Rivendell Supports F Rohan - Mordor (*Void*)
F The High Way Supports A Pans Labyrinth (*Ordered to Move*)
A Dragon Coast Supports F Great Glacier

A Thra Supports A Great Steppes - Silvanesti
F Dhunia Supports A Great Steppes - Silvanesti
F Pwyll Supports F The Julianthes - CHURNING REACH
F POOL OF RADIANCE Supports F Ashan
F TROG BOG - Grissel (*Disbanded*)

F THON THALAS Supports A Sorrows End (*Cut*)
F SAVAGE SEA - Skullcap
F ZEBOIMS DEEP Supports F The Julianthes - CHURNING REACH
F WEST MIRIANIC OCEAN - EAST MIRIANIC OCEAN (*Dislodged*)
F PIRATE SHOALS Supports A Pans Labyrinth - The Neverwood

F NORTH RAINBOW LAKE Convoys A Great Steppes - Silvanesti
F SOUTH RAINBOW LAKE Convoys A Great Steppes - Silvanesti
 
 
GMs open their own games? - FuzzyLogic   (Aug 07, 2012, 7:36 am)
Poll... should we open up dc to allow GMs to create games themselves on the Open Games list? Pros / Cons?
-mike

[Reply]

GMs open their own games? (Help & Suggestions) Corrino Aug 09, 12:59 pm
No, not unless you consider it a burden on you to create the games.

I think having a gatekeeper is a very good thing. He can vet the GM and the game parameters prior to it appearing on the forum. It is only a minor delay, from the GM'S perspective, and it is both a check on and a reassurance to the GM to know that a VRP (very responsible person) is keeping an eye on everything.

The problem with giving everyone the power to set up games on their own is that "everyone" includes a lot of idiots, which is to say not only the blatantly stupid and malicious people, but also all the nice folks who think they know what they're doing right up until the moment they totally screw everything up.

If you do want to get out from under having to set up every game yourself, I think you should (a) try to find another volunteer (no, not me) to do the job for you, or (b) modify your game-setup app so that anyone can set up a game but it still needs to be signed off by a VRP before being posted publicly.
GMs open their own games? (Help & Suggestions) Zoterik Aug 13, 02:20 pm
I agree with Corrino on all points.
GMs open their own games? (Help & Suggestions) Blueraider0 Aug 15, 08:54 pm
I agree 100%, but theoretically only GMs could make games, so it isn't EVERYONE. Mike et al would still need to approve someone to be a GM, and could revoke that right if they spammed the open games list. So I agree, but don't think the problems pointed out are that relevant.

Mike, do you often turn down GM requests to run games?
GMs open their own games? (Help & Suggestions) FuzzyLogic Aug 16, 11:35 am
No, I rarely if ever turn down requests... I was just wondering if ppl having to go thru a moderator is a choke point. Maybe this casuses ppl who might otherwise see a create a game option to not create a game thinking maybe more is involved. The burden is not an issue at all.
GMs open their own games? (Help & Suggestions) Blueraider0 Aug 20, 04:44 pm
In that case I think the moderator helps. Making a game isn't terribly involving, but RUNNING one certainly is, and I think ensuring everyone goes through you is a subtle way to say "This is kind of a serious commitment." Dropping a game as a player is a drag, but dropping a game as a GM is a real hassle. But then again I've GM'd for a while. Maybe needing to go through a moderator is scaring off potential new GMs?
dc394 s17 retreats - Jim-Bob   (Aug 06, 2012, 12:26 pm)
We don't NEED the map, but would like it, I'll say for one that I've
gotten my share of "map mistakes" here.... I of course have been on
the attendance list for World DipCon since the beginning, I don't see
why you ALL aren't coming!!!
Jim-Bob
On 8/6/12, Michael Sims wrote:
You guys need a new map to visualize the movement of 3 retreats?

Pathetic!

I tell ya...

When I was young... maps were hammered out of stone... and if you make a
mistake - you dealt with it - and we only got a new map when the local mason
would carve out a new tablet from the quarry - so we drew lines in the sand
- and pretended rocks were armies - and sticks were fleets - and we liked
it!

No leniency. Moves today! Mwuhahahaha

And then after this is the great World Dip Con here in Chicago. Are any of
you going? If not, you should. Altho they won't hand draw personalized
retreat maps for you in FTF... you have to visualize your own!
Enjoy,
-mike




________________________________

From: Michael Sims
Sent: Wed 8/1/2012 10:07 PM
Subject: dc394 s17 retreats


Hey guys, can't get you a map at the moment but here's official retreats.
At least it lets you start on the next turn...
Next - Monday! August 6.
Enjoy,
-mike

RETREATS:
GRR - Abb
Riv - Mor
Now - Wil

[Reply]

dc394 s17 retreats - Jim-Bob   (Aug 06, 2012, 12:26 pm)
We don't NEED the map, but would like it, I'll say for one that I've
gotten my share of "map mistakes" here.... I of course have been on
the attendance list for World DipCon since the beginning, I don't see
why you ALL aren't coming!!!
Jim-Bob
On 8/6/12, Michael Sims wrote:
You guys need a new map to visualize the movement of 3 retreats?

Pathetic!

I tell ya...

When I was young... maps were hammered out of stone... and if you make a
mistake - you dealt with it - and we only got a new map when the local mason
would carve out a new tablet from the quarry - so we drew lines in the sand
- and pretended rocks were armies - and sticks were fleets - and we liked
it!

No leniency. Moves today! Mwuhahahaha

And then after this is the great World Dip Con here in Chicago. Are any of
you going? If not, you should. Altho they won't hand draw personalized
retreat maps for you in FTF... you have to visualize your own!
Enjoy,
-mike




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From: Michael Sims
Sent: Wed 8/1/2012 10:07 PM
Subject: dc394 s17 retreats


Hey guys, can't get you a map at the moment but here's official retreats.
At least it lets you start on the next turn...
Next - Monday! August 6.
Enjoy,
-mike

RETREATS:
GRR - Abb
Riv - Mor
Now - Wil

[Reply]

dc394 s17 retreats - FuzzyLogic   (Aug 06, 2012, 12:21 pm)
You guys need a new map to visualize the movement of 3 retreats?
 
Pathetic!
 
I tell ya...
 
When I was young... maps were hammered out of stone... and if you make a mistake - you dealt with it - and we only got a new map when the local mason would carve out a new tablet from the quarry - so we drew lines in the sand - and pretended rocks were armies - and sticks were fleets - and we liked it!
 
No leniency.  Moves today!  Mwuhahahaha
 
And then after this is the great World Dip Con here in Chicago.  Are any of you going?  If not, you should.  Altho they won't hand draw personalized retreat maps for you in FTF... you have to <gasp> visualize your own!
Enjoy,
-mike
 
 
 



From: Michael Sims
Sent: Wed 8/1/2012 10:07 PM
Subject: dc394 s17 retreats




Hey guys, can't get you a map at the moment but here's official retreats.  At least it lets you start on the next turn...
Next - Monday!  August 6.
Enjoy,
-mike
 
RETREATS:
GRR - Abb
Riv - Mor
Now - Wil
 
 

[Reply]

dc394 s17 retreats - FuzzyLogic   (Aug 06, 2012, 12:21 pm)
You guys need a new map to visualize the movement of 3 retreats?
 
Pathetic!
 
I tell ya...
 
When I was young... maps were hammered out of stone... and if you make a mistake - you dealt with it - and we only got a new map when the local mason would carve out a new tablet from the quarry - so we drew lines in the sand - and pretended rocks were armies - and sticks were fleets - and we liked it!
 
No leniency.  Moves today!  Mwuhahahaha
 
And then after this is the great World Dip Con here in Chicago.  Are any of you going?  If not, you should.  Altho they won't hand draw personalized retreat maps for you in FTF... you have to <gasp> visualize your own!
Enjoy,
-mike
 
 
 



From: Michael Sims
Sent: Wed 8/1/2012 10:07 PM
Subject: dc394 s17 retreats




Hey guys, can't get you a map at the moment but here's official retreats.  At least it lets you start on the next turn...
Next - Monday!  August 6.
Enjoy,
-mike
 
RETREATS:
GRR - Abb
Riv - Mor
Now - Wil
 
 

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