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DC406: Fall 08 Retreats! - jerome777   (Jul 03, 2012, 2:38 pm)
Who is John Roberts?And btw - for the record with the original question, this is the most press I've had for this game in weeks. JeromeSent from my BlackBerry® smartphoneFrom: Christopher Martin <dance.scholar(at)gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 3 Jul 2012 14:49:19 -0400To: Jason K<githraine(at)yahoo.com>Cc: Jeff Hall<hall.jeff(at)gmail.com>; mrh(at)panix.com<mrh(at)panix.com>; max victory<maxatrest(at)yahoo.co.uk>; Chris Bender<cbend37(at)aol.com>; dc406<dc406(at)diplomaticcorp.com>; Garry Bledsoe<kielmarch(at)hotmail.com>; Hamish Williams<catsfather(at)gmail.com>; Jerome Payne<jerome777(at)ymail.com>; Justin Card<justin(at)darkenedpath.com>; Mark Smith<markjsmith60(at)gmail.com>; Matt Kremer<kremer.matthew(at)gmail.com>; Michael Penner<mvpenner(at)yahoo.com>; Michael Sims<mike(at)fuzzylogicllc.net>; Pat.C C<patrickcharlescloutier(at)hotmail.com>; Philip Hahn<philip.a.hahn(at)gmail.com>; psychosis(at)sky.com<psychosis(at)sky.com>; René Krøll<rk(at)giorsoine.dk>; Rolf Loschek<rolfloschek(at)yahoo.de>; tim.diplomacy<tim.diplomacy(at)gmail.com>; Warren Fleming<alwayshunted(at)hotmail.com>Subject: Re: DC406: Fall 08 Retreats!Its not a stab, its a tax!

On Tue, Jul 3, 2012 at 2:43 PM, Jason K <githraine(at)yahoo.com> wrote:

And we have a winner!

[Reply]

DC406: Fall 08 Retreats! - DancingQueen   (Jul 03, 2012, 1:49 pm)
Its not a stab, its a tax!

On Tue, Jul 3, 2012 at 2:43 PM, Jason K <githraine(at)yahoo.com> wrote:

And we have a winner!

[Reply]

DC406: Fall 08 Retreats! - laxrulz777   (Jul 03, 2012, 1:24 pm)
That's Chris Martin, folks. Only guy in the country that wants to compare himself to John Roberts right now Wink

On Tue, Jul 3, 2012 at 2:17 PM, Christopher Martin <dance.scholar(at)gmail.com> wrote:

Just like John Roberts, I'm just calling balls and strikes here . . . 
/ducks


On Tue, Jul 3, 2012 at 2:15 PM, Jeff Hall <hall.jeff(at)gmail.com> wrote:

ouch...


On Tue, Jul 3, 2012 at 1:45 PM, Christopher Martin <dance.scholar(at)gmail.com> wrote:


And THAT is the first substantive email I've received in a good long time. 
No offence, Jeff, but your replies to my emails just didn't contain any substance.  Smile




On Tue, Jul 3, 2012 at 1:42 PM, Jason K <githraine(at)yahoo.com> wrote:



Is that an offer of surrender?
I will gladly accept your SCs!




From: Christopher Martin <dance.scholar(at)gmail.com>



To: mrh(at)panix.com
Cc: max victory <maxatrest(at)yahoo.co.uk>; Chris Bender <cbend37(at)aol.com>; dc406 <dc406(at)diplomaticcorp.com>; Garry Bledsoe <kielmarch(at)hotmail.com>; Hamish Williams <catsfather(at)gmail.com>; Jason K <githraine(at)yahoo.com>; Jeff Hall <hall.jeff(at)gmail.com>; Jerome Payne <jerome777(at)ymail.com>; Justin Card <justin(at)darkenedpath.com>; Mark Smith <markjsmith60(at)gmail.com>; Matt Kremer
<kremer.matthew(at)gmail.com>; Michael Penner <mvpenner(at)yahoo.com>; Michael Sims <mike(at)fuzzylogicllc.net>; Pat.C C <patrickcharlescloutier(at)hotmail.com>; Philip Hahn <philip.a.hahn(at)gmail.com>; "psychosis(at)sky.com" <psychosis(at)sky.com>; René Krøll <rk(at)giorsoine.dk>; Rolf Loschek <rolfloschek(at)yahoo.de>; tim.diplomacy <tim.diplomacy(at)gmail.com>; Warren Fleming <alwayshunted(at)hotmail.com>



Sent: Tuesday, July 3, 2012 1:30 PM
Subject: Re: DC406: Fall 08 Retreats!


Just out of curiousity, is there any actual "diplomacy" going on any more, or have the draw participants sorted themselves out and are simply grinding through to the finish?
I'm not much interested in games where I have a fair percentage of centers but never receive any substantive press.  I can't imagine anyone else is either?!?




DQ

On Sun, Jul 1, 2012 at 6:44 PM, Mike Hoffman <mrh(at)panix.com> wrote:




Max,Agreed, and I didn't intend to slight the assistance by the French, Spanish, Dutch. In fact, my initial listing for the category "No Adjustments Needed" was "France", but I realized that wasn't historically accurate since they were not sitting on the sidelines. 




Mike
---------
"Sit Long, Talk Much, Laugh Often" -- anon
"Shared Pain is lessened, Shared Joy is increased" --- Spider Robinson




On Sun, Jul 1, 2012 at 4:23 PM, max victory <maxatrest(at)yahoo.co.uk> wrote:


hmm well I dont like single line statements on history, but I must point out that the colonies had a lot of help from the French, (and spanish and dutch) and its very unlikely the revolution would have succeeded without them...from a purely military perspective..in those early years....not to take anything away from my good friends your celebration of what was the birth of the greatest nation the world has ever seen.  I  for one thank God America is here and remains the superpower. 










From: Mike Hoffman <mrh(at)panix.com>
To: Maxatrest(at)yahoo.co.uk; Chris Bender <cbend37(at)aol.com>; Christopher Martin <dance.scholar(at)gmail.com>; dc406 <dc406(at)diplomaticcorp.com>; Garry Bledsoe <kielmarch(at)hotmail.com>; Hamish Williams <catsfather(at)gmail.com>; Jason K <githraine(at)yahoo.com>; Jeff Hall <hall.jeff(at)gmail.com>; Jerome Payne <jerome777(at)ymail.com>; Justin Card <justin(at)darkenedpath.com>; Mark Smith <markjsmith60(at)gmail.com>; Matt Kremer <kremer.matthew(at)gmail.com>; Michael Penner <mvpenner(at)yahoo.com>; Michael Sims <mike(at)fuzzylogicllc.net>; Pat.C C <patrickcharlescloutier(at)hotmail.com>; Philip Hahn <philip.a.hahn(at)gmail.com>;
"psychosis(at)sky.com" <psychosis(at)sky.com>; René Krøll <rk(at)giorsoine.dk>; Rolf Loschek <rolfloschek(at)yahoo.de>; tim.diplomacy <tim.diplomacy(at)gmail.com>; Warren Fleming <alwayshunted(at)hotmail.com>





Sent: Sunday, 1 July 2012, 20:09
Subject: DC406: Fall 08 Retreats!

Hi all,
Retreats are in early! Seems that good planning allows for quick decisions. Whether those decisions are right or wrong remains to be determined.Reminds me a bit of the US holiday we in the States are about to celebrate. The Americans planned well, had a good purpose to fight for. The Brits, on the other hand, didn't take the revolt seriously, thought they were putting down a small revolution, and didn't bring in the big guns until too late. We all know how well THAT strategy worked.






Retreats, Fall 08:-------------------------Gnomes: A Newa River - Elephant GraveyardOgres: A Cyriss - Moominvalley
Look at this -- for once, everyone still in the game has either a build or a disband; no one is sitting on the sidelines just watching. 




Adjustment Deadline is Tuesday, July 3rd. Let's get them in before the holiday, otherwise there'll be *explosions*.

Americans:---------------Archers:     Supp  6 Unit  5 Build  1 Dwarves:     Supp 13 Unit 12 Build  1 Faeries:     Supp 11 Unit 10 Build  1 Knights:     Supp 13 Unit 12 Build  1 




Leprechauns: Supp  8 Unit  6 Build  2 Ogres:       Supp 21 Unit 15 Build  6 Pirates:     Supp 10 Unit  9 Build  1 Undead:      Supp  4 Unit  2 Build  2 
British:




---------Gnomes:      Supp  2 Unit  3 Remove  1 Hobbits:     Supp  3 Unit  6 Remove  3 Magicians:   Supp  5 Unit  7 Remove  2 Nomads:      Supp  1 Unit  3 Remove  2 




Trolls:      Supp  5 Unit  7 Remove  2 
Mexico:---------
Atlantis:----------Barbarians:  Supp  0 Unit  0 Build  0 Centaurs:    Supp  0 Unit  0 Build  0 




Elves:       Supp  0 Unit  0 Build  0 Rogues:      Supp  0 Unit  0 Build  0 Samurai:     Supp  0 Unit  0 Build  0 Wizards:     Supp  0 Unit  0 Build  0 

Thanks,Mike---------
"Sit Long, Talk Much, Laugh Often" -- anon
"Shared Pain is lessened, Shared Joy is increased" --- Spider Robinson















--
It is better to be silent and thought a fool than to speak and remove all doubt
-Abraham Lincoln

The problem with Internet quotes is that you can never be certain of their accuracy


-Abraham Lincoln









--
It is better to be silent and thought a fool than to speak and remove all doubt
-Abraham Lincoln

The problem with Internet quotes is that you can never be certain of their accuracy

-Abraham Lincoln

[Reply]

DC406: Fall 08 Retreats! - DancingQueen   (Jul 03, 2012, 1:17 pm)
Just like John Roberts, I'm just calling balls and strikes here . . . 
/ducks

On Tue, Jul 3, 2012 at 2:15 PM, Jeff Hall <hall.jeff(at)gmail.com> wrote:

ouch...


On Tue, Jul 3, 2012 at 1:45 PM, Christopher Martin <dance.scholar(at)gmail.com> wrote:


And THAT is the first substantive email I've received in a good long time. 
No offence, Jeff, but your replies to my emails just didn't contain any substance.  Smile




On Tue, Jul 3, 2012 at 1:42 PM, Jason K <githraine(at)yahoo.com> wrote:



Is that an offer of surrender?
I will gladly accept your SCs!




From: Christopher Martin <dance.scholar(at)gmail.com>



To: mrh(at)panix.com
Cc: max victory <maxatrest(at)yahoo.co.uk>; Chris Bender <cbend37(at)aol.com>; dc406 <dc406(at)diplomaticcorp.com>; Garry Bledsoe <kielmarch(at)hotmail.com>; Hamish Williams <catsfather(at)gmail.com>; Jason K <githraine(at)yahoo.com>; Jeff Hall <hall.jeff(at)gmail.com>; Jerome Payne <jerome777(at)ymail.com>; Justin Card <justin(at)darkenedpath.com>; Mark Smith <markjsmith60(at)gmail.com>; Matt Kremer
<kremer.matthew(at)gmail.com>; Michael Penner <mvpenner(at)yahoo.com>; Michael Sims <mike(at)fuzzylogicllc.net>; Pat.C C <patrickcharlescloutier(at)hotmail.com>; Philip Hahn <philip.a.hahn(at)gmail.com>; "psychosis(at)sky.com" <psychosis(at)sky.com>; René Krøll <rk(at)giorsoine.dk>; Rolf Loschek <rolfloschek(at)yahoo.de>; tim.diplomacy <tim.diplomacy(at)gmail.com>; Warren Fleming <alwayshunted(at)hotmail.com>



Sent: Tuesday, July 3, 2012 1:30 PM
Subject: Re: DC406: Fall 08 Retreats!


Just out of curiousity, is there any actual "diplomacy" going on any more, or have the draw participants sorted themselves out and are simply grinding through to the finish?
I'm not much interested in games where I have a fair percentage of centers but never receive any substantive press.  I can't imagine anyone else is either?!?




DQ

On Sun, Jul 1, 2012 at 6:44 PM, Mike Hoffman <mrh(at)panix.com> wrote:




Max,Agreed, and I didn't intend to slight the assistance by the French, Spanish, Dutch. In fact, my initial listing for the category "No Adjustments Needed" was "France", but I realized that wasn't historically accurate since they were not sitting on the sidelines. 



Mike
---------
"Sit Long, Talk Much, Laugh Often" -- anon
"Shared Pain is lessened, Shared Joy is increased" --- Spider Robinson




On Sun, Jul 1, 2012 at 4:23 PM, max victory <maxatrest(at)yahoo.co.uk> wrote:


hmm well I dont like single line statements on history, but I must point out that the colonies had a lot of help from the French, (and spanish and dutch) and its very unlikely the revolution would have succeeded without them...from a purely military perspective..in those early years....not to take anything away from my good friends your celebration of what was the birth of the greatest nation the world has ever seen.  I  for one thank God America is here and remains the superpower. 








From: Mike Hoffman <mrh(at)panix.com>
To: Maxatrest(at)yahoo.co.uk; Chris Bender <cbend37(at)aol.com>; Christopher Martin <dance.scholar(at)gmail.com>; dc406 <dc406(at)diplomaticcorp.com>; Garry Bledsoe <kielmarch(at)hotmail.com>; Hamish Williams <catsfather(at)gmail.com>; Jason K <githraine(at)yahoo.com>; Jeff Hall <hall.jeff(at)gmail.com>; Jerome Payne <jerome777(at)ymail.com>; Justin Card <justin(at)darkenedpath.com>; Mark Smith <markjsmith60(at)gmail.com>; Matt Kremer <kremer.matthew(at)gmail.com>; Michael Penner <mvpenner(at)yahoo.com>; Michael Sims <mike(at)fuzzylogicllc.net>; Pat.C C <patrickcharlescloutier(at)hotmail.com>; Philip Hahn <philip.a.hahn(at)gmail.com>;
"psychosis(at)sky.com" <psychosis(at)sky.com>; René Krøll <rk(at)giorsoine.dk>; Rolf Loschek <rolfloschek(at)yahoo.de>; tim.diplomacy <tim.diplomacy(at)gmail.com>; Warren Fleming <alwayshunted(at)hotmail.com>




Sent: Sunday, 1 July 2012, 20:09
Subject: DC406: Fall 08 Retreats!

Hi all,
Retreats are in early! Seems that good planning allows for quick decisions. Whether those decisions are right or wrong remains to be determined.Reminds me a bit of the US holiday we in the States are about to celebrate. The Americans planned well, had a good purpose to fight for. The Brits, on the other hand, didn't take the revolt seriously, thought they were putting down a small revolution, and didn't bring in the big guns until too late. We all know how well THAT strategy worked.





Retreats, Fall 08:-------------------------Gnomes: A Newa River - Elephant GraveyardOgres: A Cyriss - Moominvalley
Look at this -- for once, everyone still in the game has either a build or a disband; no one is sitting on the sidelines just watching. 




Adjustment Deadline is Tuesday, July 3rd. Let's get them in before the holiday, otherwise there'll be *explosions*.

Americans:---------------Archers:     Supp  6 Unit  5 Build  1 Dwarves:     Supp 13 Unit 12 Build  1 Faeries:     Supp 11 Unit 10 Build  1 Knights:     Supp 13 Unit 12 Build  1 




Leprechauns: Supp  8 Unit  6 Build  2 Ogres:       Supp 21 Unit 15 Build  6 Pirates:     Supp 10 Unit  9 Build  1 Undead:      Supp  4 Unit  2 Build  2 
British:




---------Gnomes:      Supp  2 Unit  3 Remove  1 Hobbits:     Supp  3 Unit  6 Remove  3 Magicians:   Supp  5 Unit  7 Remove  2 Nomads:      Supp  1 Unit  3 Remove  2 




Trolls:      Supp  5 Unit  7 Remove  2 
Mexico:---------
Atlantis:----------Barbarians:  Supp  0 Unit  0 Build  0 Centaurs:    Supp  0 Unit  0 Build  0 




Elves:       Supp  0 Unit  0 Build  0 Rogues:      Supp  0 Unit  0 Build  0 Samurai:     Supp  0 Unit  0 Build  0 Wizards:     Supp  0 Unit  0 Build  0 

Thanks,Mike---------
"Sit Long, Talk Much, Laugh Often" -- anon
"Shared Pain is lessened, Shared Joy is increased" --- Spider Robinson















--
It is better to be silent and thought a fool than to speak and remove all doubt
-Abraham Lincoln

The problem with Internet quotes is that you can never be certain of their accuracy


-Abraham Lincoln

[Reply]

DC406: Fall 08 Retreats! - laxrulz777   (Jul 03, 2012, 1:15 pm)
ouch...


On Tue, Jul 3, 2012 at 1:45 PM, Christopher Martin <dance.scholar(at)gmail.com> wrote:

And THAT is the first substantive email I've received in a good long time. 
No offence, Jeff, but your replies to my emails just didn't contain any substance.  Smile



On Tue, Jul 3, 2012 at 1:42 PM, Jason K <githraine(at)yahoo.com> wrote:


Is that an offer of surrender?
I will gladly accept your SCs!



From: Christopher Martin <dance.scholar(at)gmail.com>


To: mrh(at)panix.com
Cc: max victory <maxatrest(at)yahoo.co.uk>; Chris Bender <cbend37(at)aol.com>; dc406 <dc406(at)diplomaticcorp.com>; Garry Bledsoe <kielmarch(at)hotmail.com>; Hamish Williams <catsfather(at)gmail.com>; Jason K <githraine(at)yahoo.com>; Jeff Hall <hall.jeff(at)gmail.com>; Jerome Payne <jerome777(at)ymail.com>; Justin Card <justin(at)darkenedpath.com>; Mark Smith <markjsmith60(at)gmail.com>; Matt Kremer
<kremer.matthew(at)gmail.com>; Michael Penner <mvpenner(at)yahoo.com>; Michael Sims <mike(at)fuzzylogicllc.net>; Pat.C C <patrickcharlescloutier(at)hotmail.com>; Philip Hahn <philip.a.hahn(at)gmail.com>; "psychosis(at)sky.com" <psychosis(at)sky.com>; René Krøll <rk(at)giorsoine.dk>; Rolf Loschek <rolfloschek(at)yahoo.de>; tim.diplomacy <tim.diplomacy(at)gmail.com>; Warren Fleming <alwayshunted(at)hotmail.com>


Sent: Tuesday, July 3, 2012 1:30 PM
Subject: Re: DC406: Fall 08 Retreats!


Just out of curiousity, is there any actual "diplomacy" going on any more, or have the draw participants sorted themselves out and are simply grinding through to the finish?
I'm not much interested in games where I have a fair percentage of centers but never receive any substantive press.  I can't imagine anyone else is either?!?



DQ

On Sun, Jul 1, 2012 at 6:44 PM, Mike Hoffman <mrh(at)panix.com> wrote:



Max,Agreed, and I didn't intend to slight the assistance by the French, Spanish, Dutch. In fact, my initial listing for the category "No Adjustments Needed" was "France", but I realized that wasn't historically accurate since they were not sitting on the sidelines. 


Mike
---------
"Sit Long, Talk Much, Laugh Often" -- anon
"Shared Pain is lessened, Shared Joy is increased" --- Spider Robinson




On Sun, Jul 1, 2012 at 4:23 PM, max victory <maxatrest(at)yahoo.co.uk> wrote:


hmm well I dont like single line statements on history, but I must point out that the colonies had a lot of help from the French, (and spanish and dutch) and its very unlikely the revolution would have succeeded without them...from a purely military perspective..in those early years....not to take anything away from my good friends your celebration of what was the birth of the greatest nation the world has ever seen.  I  for one thank God America is here and remains the superpower. 






From: Mike Hoffman <mrh(at)panix.com>
To: Maxatrest(at)yahoo.co.uk; Chris Bender <cbend37(at)aol.com>; Christopher Martin <dance.scholar(at)gmail.com>; dc406 <dc406(at)diplomaticcorp.com>; Garry Bledsoe <kielmarch(at)hotmail.com>; Hamish Williams <catsfather(at)gmail.com>; Jason K <githraine(at)yahoo.com>; Jeff Hall <hall.jeff(at)gmail.com>; Jerome Payne <jerome777(at)ymail.com>; Justin Card <justin(at)darkenedpath.com>; Mark Smith <markjsmith60(at)gmail.com>; Matt Kremer <kremer.matthew(at)gmail.com>; Michael Penner <mvpenner(at)yahoo.com>; Michael Sims <mike(at)fuzzylogicllc.net>; Pat.C C <patrickcharlescloutier(at)hotmail.com>; Philip Hahn <philip.a.hahn(at)gmail.com>;
"psychosis(at)sky.com" <psychosis(at)sky.com>; René Krøll <rk(at)giorsoine.dk>; Rolf Loschek <rolfloschek(at)yahoo.de>; tim.diplomacy <tim.diplomacy(at)gmail.com>; Warren Fleming <alwayshunted(at)hotmail.com>



Sent: Sunday, 1 July 2012, 20:09
Subject: DC406: Fall 08 Retreats!

Hi all,
Retreats are in early! Seems that good planning allows for quick decisions. Whether those decisions are right or wrong remains to be determined.Reminds me a bit of the US holiday we in the States are about to celebrate. The Americans planned well, had a good purpose to fight for. The Brits, on the other hand, didn't take the revolt seriously, thought they were putting down a small revolution, and didn't bring in the big guns until too late. We all know how well THAT strategy worked.




Retreats, Fall 08:-------------------------Gnomes: A Newa River - Elephant GraveyardOgres: A Cyriss - Moominvalley
Look at this -- for once, everyone still in the game has either a build or a disband; no one is sitting on the sidelines just watching. 



Adjustment Deadline is Tuesday, July 3rd. Let's get them in before the holiday, otherwise there'll be *explosions*.

Americans:---------------Archers:     Supp  6 Unit  5 Build  1 Dwarves:     Supp 13 Unit 12 Build  1 Faeries:     Supp 11 Unit 10 Build  1 Knights:     Supp 13 Unit 12 Build  1 



Leprechauns: Supp  8 Unit  6 Build  2 Ogres:       Supp 21 Unit 15 Build  6 Pirates:     Supp 10 Unit  9 Build  1 Undead:      Supp  4 Unit  2 Build  2 
British:



---------Gnomes:      Supp  2 Unit  3 Remove  1 Hobbits:     Supp  3 Unit  6 Remove  3 Magicians:   Supp  5 Unit  7 Remove  2 Nomads:      Supp  1 Unit  3 Remove  2 



Trolls:      Supp  5 Unit  7 Remove  2 
Mexico:---------
Atlantis:----------Barbarians:  Supp  0 Unit  0 Build  0 Centaurs:    Supp  0 Unit  0 Build  0 



Elves:       Supp  0 Unit  0 Build  0 Rogues:      Supp  0 Unit  0 Build  0 Samurai:     Supp  0 Unit  0 Build  0 Wizards:     Supp  0 Unit  0 Build  0 

Thanks,Mike---------
"Sit Long, Talk Much, Laugh Often" -- anon
"Shared Pain is lessened, Shared Joy is increased" --- Spider Robinson















--
It is better to be silent and thought a fool than to speak and remove all doubt
-Abraham Lincoln

The problem with Internet quotes is that you can never be certain of their accuracy

-Abraham Lincoln

[Reply]

DC406: Fall 08 Retreats! - DancingQueen   (Jul 03, 2012, 12:45 pm)
And THAT is the first substantive email I've received in a good long time. 
No offence, Jeff, but your replies to my emails just didn't contain any substance.  Smile


On Tue, Jul 3, 2012 at 1:42 PM, Jason K <githraine(at)yahoo.com> wrote:

Is that an offer of surrender?
I will gladly accept your SCs!


From: Christopher Martin <dance.scholar(at)gmail.com>

To: mrh(at)panix.com
Cc: max victory <maxatrest(at)yahoo.co.uk>; Chris Bender <cbend37(at)aol.com>; dc406 <dc406(at)diplomaticcorp.com>; Garry Bledsoe <kielmarch(at)hotmail.com>; Hamish Williams <catsfather(at)gmail.com>; Jason K <githraine(at)yahoo.com>; Jeff Hall <hall.jeff(at)gmail.com>; Jerome Payne <jerome777(at)ymail.com>; Justin Card <justin(at)darkenedpath.com>; Mark Smith <markjsmith60(at)gmail.com>; Matt Kremer
<kremer.matthew(at)gmail.com>; Michael Penner <mvpenner(at)yahoo.com>; Michael Sims <mike(at)fuzzylogicllc.net>; Pat.C C <patrickcharlescloutier(at)hotmail.com>; Philip Hahn <philip.a.hahn(at)gmail.com>; "psychosis(at)sky.com" <psychosis(at)sky.com>; René Krøll <rk(at)giorsoine.dk>; Rolf Loschek <rolfloschek(at)yahoo.de>; tim.diplomacy <tim.diplomacy(at)gmail.com>; Warren Fleming <alwayshunted(at)hotmail.com>

Sent: Tuesday, July 3, 2012 1:30 PM
Subject: Re: DC406: Fall 08 Retreats!


Just out of curiousity, is there any actual "diplomacy" going on any more, or have the draw participants sorted themselves out and are simply grinding through to the finish?
I'm not much interested in games where I have a fair percentage of centers but never receive any substantive press.  I can't imagine anyone else is either?!?


DQ

On Sun, Jul 1, 2012 at 6:44 PM, Mike Hoffman <mrh(at)panix.com> wrote:


Max,Agreed, and I didn't intend to slight the assistance by the French, Spanish, Dutch. In fact, my initial listing for the category "No Adjustments Needed" was "France", but I realized that wasn't historically accurate since they were not sitting on the sidelines. 


Mike
---------
"Sit Long, Talk Much, Laugh Often" -- anon
"Shared Pain is lessened, Shared Joy is increased" --- Spider Robinson




On Sun, Jul 1, 2012 at 4:23 PM, max victory <maxatrest(at)yahoo.co.uk> wrote:


hmm well I dont like single line statements on history, but I must point out that the colonies had a lot of help from the French, (and spanish and dutch) and its very unlikely the revolution would have succeeded without them...from a purely military perspective..in those early years....not to take anything away from my good friends your celebration of what was the birth of the greatest nation the world has ever seen.  I  for one thank God America is here and remains the superpower. 






From: Mike Hoffman <mrh(at)panix.com>
To: Maxatrest(at)yahoo.co.uk; Chris Bender <cbend37(at)aol.com>; Christopher Martin <dance.scholar(at)gmail.com>; dc406 <dc406(at)diplomaticcorp.com>; Garry Bledsoe <kielmarch(at)hotmail.com>; Hamish Williams <catsfather(at)gmail.com>; Jason K <githraine(at)yahoo.com>; Jeff Hall <hall.jeff(at)gmail.com>; Jerome Payne <jerome777(at)ymail.com>; Justin Card <justin(at)darkenedpath.com>; Mark Smith <markjsmith60(at)gmail.com>; Matt Kremer <kremer.matthew(at)gmail.com>; Michael Penner <mvpenner(at)yahoo.com>; Michael Sims <mike(at)fuzzylogicllc.net>; Pat.C C <patrickcharlescloutier(at)hotmail.com>; Philip Hahn <philip.a.hahn(at)gmail.com>;
"psychosis(at)sky.com" <psychosis(at)sky.com>; René Krøll <rk(at)giorsoine.dk>; Rolf Loschek <rolfloschek(at)yahoo.de>; tim.diplomacy <tim.diplomacy(at)gmail.com>; Warren Fleming <alwayshunted(at)hotmail.com>



Sent: Sunday, 1 July 2012, 20:09
Subject: DC406: Fall 08 Retreats!

Hi all,
Retreats are in early! Seems that good planning allows for quick decisions. Whether those decisions are right or wrong remains to be determined.Reminds me a bit of the US holiday we in the States are about to celebrate. The Americans planned well, had a good purpose to fight for. The Brits, on the other hand, didn't take the revolt seriously, thought they were putting down a small revolution, and didn't bring in the big guns until too late. We all know how well THAT strategy worked.




Retreats, Fall 08:-------------------------Gnomes: A Newa River - Elephant GraveyardOgres: A Cyriss - Moominvalley
Look at this -- for once, everyone still in the game has either a build or a disband; no one is sitting on the sidelines just watching. 


Adjustment Deadline is Tuesday, July 3rd. Let's get them in before the holiday, otherwise there'll be *explosions*.

Americans:---------------Archers:     Supp  6 Unit  5 Build  1 Dwarves:     Supp 13 Unit 12 Build  1 Faeries:     Supp 11 Unit 10 Build  1 Knights:     Supp 13 Unit 12 Build  1 


Leprechauns: Supp  8 Unit  6 Build  2 Ogres:       Supp 21 Unit 15 Build  6 Pirates:     Supp 10 Unit  9 Build  1 Undead:      Supp  4 Unit  2 Build  2 
British:


---------Gnomes:      Supp  2 Unit  3 Remove  1 Hobbits:     Supp  3 Unit  6 Remove  3 Magicians:   Supp  5 Unit  7 Remove  2 Nomads:      Supp  1 Unit  3 Remove  2 


Trolls:      Supp  5 Unit  7 Remove  2 
Mexico:---------
Atlantis:----------Barbarians:  Supp  0 Unit  0 Build  0 Centaurs:    Supp  0 Unit  0 Build  0 


Elves:       Supp  0 Unit  0 Build  0 Rogues:      Supp  0 Unit  0 Build  0 Samurai:     Supp  0 Unit  0 Build  0 Wizards:     Supp  0 Unit  0 Build  0 

Thanks,Mike---------
"Sit Long, Talk Much, Laugh Often" -- anon
"Shared Pain is lessened, Shared Joy is increased" --- Spider Robinson

[Reply]

DC406: Fall 08 Retreats! - Githraine   (Jul 03, 2012, 12:42 pm)
Is that an offer of surrender?
I will gladly accept your SCs!

From: Christopher Martin <dance.scholar(at)gmail.com>
To: mrh(at)panix.com
Cc: max victory <maxatrest(at)yahoo.co.uk>; Chris Bender <cbend37(at)aol.com>; dc406 <dc406(at)diplomaticcorp.com>; Garry Bledsoe <kielmarch(at)hotmail.com>; Hamish Williams <catsfather(at)gmail.com>; Jason K <githraine(at)yahoo.com>; Jeff Hall <hall.jeff(at)gmail.com>; Jerome Payne <jerome777(at)ymail.com>; Justin Card <justin(at)darkenedpath.com>; Mark Smith <markjsmith60(at)gmail.com>; Matt Kremer
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Sent: Tuesday, July 3, 2012 1:30 PM
Subject: Re: DC406: Fall 08 Retreats!


Just out of curiousity, is there any actual "diplomacy" going on any more, or have the draw participants sorted themselves out and are simply grinding through to the finish?
I'm not much interested in games where I have a fair percentage of centers but never receive any substantive press.  I can't imagine anyone else is either?!?


DQ

On Sun, Jul 1, 2012 at 6:44 PM, Mike Hoffman <mrh(at)panix.com> wrote:


Max,Agreed, and I didn't intend to slight the assistance by the French, Spanish, Dutch. In fact, my initial listing for the category "No Adjustments Needed" was "France", but I realized that wasn't historically accurate since they were not sitting on the sidelines. 


Mike
---------
"Sit Long, Talk Much, Laugh Often" -- anon
"Shared Pain is lessened, Shared Joy is increased" --- Spider Robinson




On Sun, Jul 1, 2012 at 4:23 PM, max victory <maxatrest(at)yahoo.co.uk> wrote:



hmm well I dont like single line statements on history, but I must point out that the colonies had a lot of help from the French, (and spanish and dutch) and its very unlikely the revolution would have succeeded without them...from a purely military perspective..in those early years....not to take anything away from my good friends your celebration of what was the birth of the greatest nation the world has ever seen.  I  for one thank God America is here and remains the superpower. 






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Sent: Sunday, 1 July 2012, 20:09
Subject: DC406: Fall 08 Retreats!

Hi all,
Retreats are in early! Seems that good planning allows for quick decisions. Whether those decisions are right or wrong remains to be determined.Reminds me a bit of the US holiday we in the States are about to celebrate. The Americans planned well, had a good purpose to fight for. The Brits, on the other hand, didn't take the revolt seriously, thought they were putting down a small revolution, and didn't bring in the big guns until too late. We all know how well THAT strategy worked.





Retreats, Fall 08:-------------------------Gnomes: A Newa River - Elephant GraveyardOgres: A Cyriss - Moominvalley
Look at this -- for once, everyone still in the game has either a build or a disband; no one is sitting on the sidelines just watching. 



Adjustment Deadline is Tuesday, July 3rd. Let's get them in before the holiday, otherwise there'll be *explosions*.

Americans:---------------Archers:     Supp  6 Unit  5 Build  1 Dwarves:     Supp 13 Unit 12 Build  1 Faeries:     Supp 11 Unit 10 Build  1 Knights:     Supp 13 Unit 12 Build  1 



Leprechauns: Supp  8 Unit  6 Build  2 Ogres:       Supp 21 Unit 15 Build  6 Pirates:     Supp 10 Unit  9 Build  1 Undead:      Supp  4 Unit  2 Build  2 
British:



---------Gnomes:      Supp  2 Unit  3 Remove  1 Hobbits:     Supp  3 Unit  6 Remove  3 Magicians:   Supp  5 Unit  7 Remove  2 Nomads:      Supp  1 Unit  3 Remove  2 



Trolls:      Supp  5 Unit  7 Remove  2 
Mexico:---------
Atlantis:----------Barbarians:  Supp  0 Unit  0 Build  0 Centaurs:    Supp  0 Unit  0 Build  0 



Elves:       Supp  0 Unit  0 Build  0 Rogues:      Supp  0 Unit  0 Build  0 Samurai:     Supp  0 Unit  0 Build  0 Wizards:     Supp  0 Unit  0 Build  0 

Thanks,Mike---------
"Sit Long, Talk Much, Laugh Often" -- anon
"Shared Pain is lessened, Shared Joy is increased" --- Spider Robinson

[Reply]

DC406: Fall 08 Retreats! - DancingQueen   (Jul 03, 2012, 12:30 pm)
Just out of curiousity, is there any actual "diplomacy" going on any more, or have the draw participants sorted themselves out and are simply grinding through to the finish?
I'm not much interested in games where I have a fair percentage of centers but never receive any substantive press.  I can't imagine anyone else is either?!?

DQ

On Sun, Jul 1, 2012 at 6:44 PM, Mike Hoffman <mrh(at)panix.com> wrote:

Max,Agreed, and I didn't intend to slight the assistance by the French, Spanish, Dutch. In fact, my initial listing for the category "No Adjustments Needed" was "France", but I realized that wasn't historically accurate since they were not sitting on the sidelines. 

Mike
---------
"Sit Long, Talk Much, Laugh Often" -- anon
"Shared Pain is lessened, Shared Joy is increased" --- Spider Robinson




On Sun, Jul 1, 2012 at 4:23 PM, max victory <maxatrest(at)yahoo.co.uk> wrote:


hmm well I dont like single line statements on history, but I must point out that the colonies had a lot of help from the French, (and spanish and dutch) and its very unlikely the revolution would have succeeded without them...from a purely military perspective..in those early years....not to take anything away from my good friends your celebration of what was the birth of the greatest nation the world has ever seen.  I  for one thank God America is here and remains the superpower. 




From: Mike Hoffman <mrh(at)panix.com>
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"psychosis(at)sky.com" <psychosis(at)sky.com>; René Krøll <rk(at)giorsoine.dk>; Rolf Loschek <rolfloschek(at)yahoo.de>; tim.diplomacy <tim.diplomacy(at)gmail.com>; Warren Fleming <alwayshunted(at)hotmail.com>


Sent: Sunday, 1 July 2012, 20:09
Subject: DC406: Fall 08 Retreats!

Hi all,
Retreats are in early! Seems that good planning allows for quick decisions. Whether those decisions are right or wrong remains to be determined.Reminds me a bit of the US holiday we in the States are about to celebrate. The Americans planned well, had a good purpose to fight for. The Brits, on the other hand, didn't take the revolt seriously, thought they were putting down a small revolution, and didn't bring in the big guns until too late. We all know how well THAT strategy worked.



Retreats, Fall 08:-------------------------Gnomes: A Newa River - Elephant GraveyardOgres: A Cyriss - Moominvalley
Look at this -- for once, everyone still in the game has either a build or a disband; no one is sitting on the sidelines just watching. 

Adjustment Deadline is Tuesday, July 3rd. Let's get them in before the holiday, otherwise there'll be *explosions*.

Americans:---------------Archers:     Supp  6 Unit  5 Build  1 Dwarves:     Supp 13 Unit 12 Build  1 Faeries:     Supp 11 Unit 10 Build  1 Knights:     Supp 13 Unit 12 Build  1 

Leprechauns: Supp  8 Unit  6 Build  2 Ogres:       Supp 21 Unit 15 Build  6 Pirates:     Supp 10 Unit  9 Build  1 Undead:      Supp  4 Unit  2 Build  2 
British:

---------Gnomes:      Supp  2 Unit  3 Remove  1 Hobbits:     Supp  3 Unit  6 Remove  3 Magicians:   Supp  5 Unit  7 Remove  2 Nomads:      Supp  1 Unit  3 Remove  2 

Trolls:      Supp  5 Unit  7 Remove  2 
Mexico:---------
Atlantis:----------Barbarians:  Supp  0 Unit  0 Build  0 Centaurs:    Supp  0 Unit  0 Build  0 

Elves:       Supp  0 Unit  0 Build  0 Rogues:      Supp  0 Unit  0 Build  0 Samurai:     Supp  0 Unit  0 Build  0 Wizards:     Supp  0 Unit  0 Build  0 

Thanks,Mike---------
"Sit Long, Talk Much, Laugh Often" -- anon
"Shared Pain is lessened, Shared Joy is increased" --- Spider Robinson

[Reply]

Deadline reminder! - offdisc   (Jul 03, 2012, 11:29 am)
Adjustments  (Builds And Disbands) due today!!!! Several stiill outstanding.

... and when the deadline passed, a great swelling of the oceans and rumbling of the land caused all to run for the safety of their home ports. Unfortunately, some were too far away and were swallowed up whole. During this time, all manufacturing was also put on hold.  Dark Times, Dark Times.


Mike
---------
"Sit Long, Talk Much, Laugh Often" -- anon
"Shared Pain is lessened, Shared Joy is increased" --- Spider Robinson

[Reply]

Haven Egyptian Wall Markings - chaosonejoe   (Jul 03, 2012, 8:43 am)
The Templars knew, that's for sure.
 
(sorry, reading Foucault's Pendulum and couldn't resist the conspiracy angle)
 
--Joe



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Sent: Tuesday, July 3, 2012 9:11 AM
Subject: Haven Egyptian Wall Markings




Who knew.
 

[Reply]

Haven Egyptian Wall Markings - FuzzyLogic   (Jul 03, 2012, 8:11 am)
Who knew.
 

[Reply]

Haven Egyptian Wall Markings (dc394) chaosonejoe Jul 03, 08:43 am
The Templars knew, that's for sure.
 
(sorry, reading Foucault's Pendulum and couldn't resist the conspiracy angle)
 
--Joe



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Sent: Tuesday, July 3, 2012 9:11 AM
Subject: Haven Egyptian Wall Markings




Who knew.
 
dc414 Autumn 08 adjudication - jerome777   (Jul 02, 2012, 3:23 pm)
Hi everyone,

My my, this game does get intriguing!

Here's Autumn 08:

England:
F Brest Supports A London - Picardy
F English Channel Convoys A London - Picardy
A Livonia - Prussia
A London - Picardy
F Mid-Atlantic Ocean - Portugal
F North Sea Supports A Ruhr - Holland
F Spain(sc) Supports A Gascony - Marseilles
F St Petersburg(nc) Hold

France:
A Belgium Supports A Holland
A Burgundy - Munich
A Holland Hold (*Disbanded*)
A Paris Hold

Germany:
A Gascony - Marseilles
A Kiel Supports A Ruhr - Holland
A Ruhr - Holland
A Tyrolia Supports A Vienna (*Cut*)
A Ukraine Supports A Moscow - Sevastopol
A Vienna, no move received
A Warsaw Hold

Italy:
F Black Sea Supports A Constantinople - Ankara
A Budapest Supports A Trieste - Vienna (*Cut*)
A Constantinople -
Ankara
A Greece - Bulgaria
F Gulf of Lyon - Marseilles (*Fails*)
F Ionian Sea - Adriatic Sea
A Serbia - Rumania (*Fails*)
F Smyrna Hold
A Trieste - Vienna (*Fails*)
F Tyrrhenian Sea Hold
A Venice - Tyrolia (*Fails*)

Russia:
A Galicia - Budapest (*Fails*)
A Moscow - Sevastopol
A Rumania Supports A Galicia - Budapest (*Cut*)

Turkey:
A Ankara Hold (*Dislodged*)

I've auto-retreated Turkey's Ankara army OTB, as Turkey has just lost his final supply centre. Thanks for playing James, better luck next time - and thanks for sticking it out to the end.

The next turn is the Winter adjustments. I've been asked to postpone the builds due to a certain national holiday, so therefore I think I'll put the builds due for Friday 6 July, 2000GMT.

Adjustments:

Austria:   Supp  0 Unit  0 Build  0
England:   Supp  9 Unit  8 Build 
1
France:    Supp  3 Unit  3 Build  0
Germany:   Supp  7 Unit  7 Build  0
Italy:     Supp 12 Unit 11 Build  1
Russia:    Supp  3 Unit  3 Build  0
Turkey:    Supp  0 Unit  0 Build  0

Spring 09 will be due Monday 16 July, 2000GMT.

Best to all,

Jerome

[Reply]

re001 is now DC432 - Power assignments and Spring... - Joral   (Jul 02, 2012, 11:07 am)
Ok, and we're off, with just over a week for Spring 01. Here are the
power assignments for DC432.
Austria Richelieu andrewgbeaumont(at)gmail.com
England MrTauo tauo(at)sbcglobal.net
France DrStrangelove ericzred(at)gmail.com
Germany Wladimir7 wmysonski(at)gmail.com
Italy briankingfox briankingfox(at)hotmail.com
Russia Nobunaga martell.p(at)gmail.com
Turkey Nacvet igonmor(at)ea.mde.es,
nacvet(at)gmail.com
Note: Nacvet has requested emails to go to both addresses, to make sure
he gets them.
When sending orders to me, please include the game number, the season,
and your power name. Preferably updated orders should have a number at
the end, to indicate newest orders. For example:
dc432 Spring 01 France Orders [1]
The revision number at the end is optional, and I will use the latest
received when I do the adjudication. This will help me see there is an
updated order set.
I am going to set the first deadline for July 10 (at) 0100GMT (July 9, 9PM
Eastern). If this will cause a problem with the July 4th holiday this
week, please let me know and I can add a week to it.
After all of the other crazy things with signups, I'm glad to see this
one get underway. If any of you have questions, please feel free to
ask. If any of you have anything you would like me to send out with the
adjuducations, send them with your orders. Press can be under your name
or anonymous.
--
Justin
--
Certainly the game is rigged. Don???t let that stop you; if you don???t
bet, you can???t win.

[Reply]

dc431 Spring 1901 deadline extended - smileyrob   (Jul 02, 2012, 10:03 am)
Gentlemen,

At least one of our players is without power due to recent storms. By request I am extending the Spring deadline until Tuesday, July 10th. Our upcoming schedule now looks like this:

Spring 1901:           Tuesday, July 10, 8 PM PDT (Wed, July 11, 3AM GMT)

Summer 1901:        Thursday, July 12, 8 PM PDT (Fri, July 13, 3AM GMT)
Fall 1901:                Tuesday, July 17, 8 PM PDT (Wed, July 18, 3AM GMT)

I am sorry if this in inconvenient of frustrating, but I will always grant extensions in such cases.


Robert

[Reply]

dc431 Winter 1900 Adjudication - smileyrob   (Jul 01, 2012, 10:52 pm)
Gentlemen,
Here are the winter results. I suspect there are no big surprises. The 12 builds are evenly divided between fleets and armies, though geographically most of the fleets come in the north while armies are more favored in the south.

Amongst those I heard from, there are a variaty of opinions on when we should have our next deadline. I am sympathetic to the argument that our normal tuesday deadline is too soon. Since Wednesday is a holiday, I am going to postpone the deadline until Thursday, but have it earlier in the day than normal, 4 PM PDT (11PM GMT). As the next phase is a summer, I'm going to give only 28 hours, and have it Friday, 8 PM PDT. I think this will allow us to resume our normal schedule the next week, with the Fall 1901 deadline on Tuesday, July 10, 8PM PDT.


DC431(1900 DIPLOMACY) WINTER 1900 ADJUDICATION

PLAYERS:

Austria: Jerome Payne jerome777(at)ymail.com
Britain: Ethan Schubert schu9914(at)vandals.uidaho.edu (abandoned Winter 1900)

            Mark Utterback MDemagogue(at)gmail.com (from Winter 1900)


France: Michael Nickles flexpoint1(at)gmail.com
Germany: Andrew Tanner amtrating(at)gmail.com

Italy: Jack McHugh jwmchughjr(at)gmail.com
Russia: Lynn Mercer hancockfc(at)yahoo.com

Turkey: Michael Thompson psychosis(at)sky.com

ORDERS:
Britain: Build F London.
Britain: Build F Edinburgh.

Austria: Build A Vienna.
Austria: Build A Budapest.


France: Build F Brest.
France: Build A Paris.

Germany: Build F Kiel.
Germany: Build F Berlin.

Italy: Build A Rome.

Russia: Build A Moscow.
Russia: Build A Sevastopol.

Turkey: Build F Damascus.


UNIT LOCATIONS:
Britain:   F Edinburgh, F London, F Algeria, F Norway, F Norwegian Sea, F
           Eastern Mediterranean.
Austria:   A Vienna, A Budapest, A Trieste, A Switzerland, A Bulgaria.
France:    A Spain, F Brest, A Paris, A Marseilles, F Portugal, A Morocco.

Germany:   F Kiel, F Berlin, A Munich, A Netherlands, A Belgium, F North Sea.
Italy:     A Piedmont, A Milan, A Rome, F Tripolitania.
Russia:    A St Petersburg, A Moscow, A Ukraine, A Sevastopol, F Sweden, F
           Rumania.

Turkey:    A Greece, F Constantinople, F Damascus, A Palestine.

OWNERSHIP OF SUPPLY CENTERS:
Britain:   Edinburgh, Liverpool, London, Egypt, Algeria, Norway.
Austria:   Vienna, Budapest, Trieste, Switzerland, Bulgaria.

France:    Spain, Brest, Paris, Marseilles, Portugal, Morocco.
Germany:   Kiel, Cologne, Berlin, Munich, Netherlands, Belgium.
Italy:     Milan, Rome, Naples, Tripolitania.
Russia:    St Petersburg, Warsaw, Moscow, Sevastopol, Sweden, Rumania.

Turkey:    Greece, Constantinople, Ankara, Damascus.
Unowned:   Denmark, Serbia.

Britain:    6 Supply centers,  6 Units:  Builds   0 units.
Austria:    5 Supply centers,  5 Units:  Builds   0 units.
France:     6 Supply centers,  6 Units:  Builds   0 units.

Germany:    6 Supply centers,  6 Units:  Builds   0 units.
Italy:      4 Supply centers,  4 Units:  Builds   0 units.
Russia:     6 Supply centers,  6 Units:  Builds   0 units.
Turkey:     4 Supply centers,  4 Units:  Builds   0 units.



UPCOMING DEADLINES:

Spring 1901 orders:                                         Thursday, July 5, 4PM PDT (11PM GMT)
Summer 1901 retreats:                                    Friday, July 6, 8PM PDT (Saturday, July 7, 3AM GMT)
Fall 1901 orders:                                              Tuesday, July 10, 8PM PDT (Wednesday, July 11, 3AM GMT)

[Reply]

DC406: Fall 08 Retreats! - offdisc   (Jul 01, 2012, 5:44 pm)
Max,Agreed, and I didn't intend to slight the assistance by the French, Spanish, Dutch. In fact, my initial listing for the category "No Adjustments Needed" was "France", but I realized that wasn't historically accurate since they were not sitting on the sidelines. 
Mike
---------
"Sit Long, Talk Much, Laugh Often" -- anon
"Shared Pain is lessened, Shared Joy is increased" --- Spider Robinson




On Sun, Jul 1, 2012 at 4:23 PM, max victory <maxatrest(at)yahoo.co.uk> wrote:

hmm well I dont like single line statements on history, but I must point out that the colonies had a lot of help from the French, (and spanish and dutch) and its very unlikely the revolution would have succeeded without them...from a purely military perspective..in those early years....not to take anything away from my good friends your celebration of what was the birth of the greatest nation the world has ever seen.  I  for one thank God America is here and remains the superpower. 


From: Mike Hoffman <mrh(at)panix.com>
To: Maxatrest(at)yahoo.co.uk; Chris Bender <cbend37(at)aol.com>; Christopher Martin <dance.scholar(at)gmail.com>; dc406 <dc406(at)diplomaticcorp.com>; Garry Bledsoe <kielmarch(at)hotmail.com>; Hamish Williams <catsfather(at)gmail.com>; Jason K <githraine(at)yahoo.com>; Jeff Hall <hall.jeff(at)gmail.com>; Jerome Payne <jerome777(at)ymail.com>; Justin Card <justin(at)darkenedpath.com>; Mark Smith <markjsmith60(at)gmail.com>; Matt Kremer <kremer.matthew(at)gmail.com>; Michael Penner <mvpenner(at)yahoo.com>; Michael Sims <mike(at)fuzzylogicllc.net>; Pat.C C <patrickcharlescloutier(at)hotmail.com>; Philip Hahn <philip.a.hahn(at)gmail.com>;
"psychosis(at)sky.com" <psychosis(at)sky.com>; René Krøll <rk(at)giorsoine.dk>; Rolf Loschek <rolfloschek(at)yahoo.de>; tim.diplomacy <tim.diplomacy(at)gmail.com>; Warren Fleming <alwayshunted(at)hotmail.com>

Sent: Sunday, 1 July 2012, 20:09
Subject: DC406: Fall 08 Retreats!

Hi all,
Retreats are in early! Seems that good planning allows for quick decisions. Whether those decisions are right or wrong remains to be determined.Reminds me a bit of the US holiday we in the States are about to celebrate. The Americans planned well, had a good purpose to fight for. The Brits, on the other hand, didn't take the revolt seriously, thought they were putting down a small revolution, and didn't bring in the big guns until too late. We all know how well THAT strategy worked.


Retreats, Fall 08:-------------------------Gnomes: A Newa River - Elephant GraveyardOgres: A Cyriss - Moominvalley
Look at this -- for once, everyone still in the game has either a build or a disband; no one is sitting on the sidelines just watching. 
Adjustment Deadline is Tuesday, July 3rd. Let's get them in before the holiday, otherwise there'll be *explosions*.

Americans:---------------Archers:     Supp  6 Unit  5 Build  1 Dwarves:     Supp 13 Unit 12 Build  1 Faeries:     Supp 11 Unit 10 Build  1 Knights:     Supp 13 Unit 12 Build  1 
Leprechauns: Supp  8 Unit  6 Build  2 Ogres:       Supp 21 Unit 15 Build  6 Pirates:     Supp 10 Unit  9 Build  1 Undead:      Supp  4 Unit  2 Build  2 
British:
---------Gnomes:      Supp  2 Unit  3 Remove  1 Hobbits:     Supp  3 Unit  6 Remove  3 Magicians:   Supp  5 Unit  7 Remove  2 Nomads:      Supp  1 Unit  3 Remove  2 
Trolls:      Supp  5 Unit  7 Remove  2 
Mexico:---------
Atlantis:----------Barbarians:  Supp  0 Unit  0 Build  0 Centaurs:    Supp  0 Unit  0 Build  0 
Elves:       Supp  0 Unit  0 Build  0 Rogues:      Supp  0 Unit  0 Build  0 Samurai:     Supp  0 Unit  0 Build  0 Wizards:     Supp  0 Unit  0 Build  0 

Thanks,Mike---------
"Sit Long, Talk Much, Laugh Often" -- anon
"Shared Pain is lessened, Shared Joy is increased" --- Spider Robinson

[Reply]

DC406: Fall 08 Retreats! - pieandmash   (Jul 01, 2012, 5:23 pm)
hmm well I dont like single line statements on history, but I must point out that the colonies had a lot of help from the French, (and spanish and dutch) and its very unlikely the revolution would have succeeded without them...from a purely military perspective..in those early years....not to take anything away from my good friends your celebration of what was the birth of the greatest nation the world has ever seen.  I  for one thank God America is here and remains the superpower. 
From: Mike Hoffman <mrh(at)panix.com>
To: Maxatrest(at)yahoo.co.uk; Chris Bender <cbend37(at)aol.com>; Christopher Martin <dance.scholar(at)gmail.com>; dc406 <dc406(at)diplomaticcorp.com>; Garry Bledsoe <kielmarch(at)hotmail.com>; Hamish Williams <catsfather(at)gmail.com>; Jason K <githraine(at)yahoo.com>; Jeff Hall <hall.jeff(at)gmail.com>; Jerome Payne <jerome777(at)ymail.com>; Justin Card <justin(at)darkenedpath.com>; Mark Smith <markjsmith60(at)gmail.com>; Matt Kremer <kremer.matthew(at)gmail.com>; Michael Penner <mvpenner(at)yahoo.com>; Michael Sims <mike(at)fuzzylogicllc.net>; Pat.C C <patrickcharlescloutier(at)hotmail.com>; Philip Hahn <philip.a.hahn(at)gmail.com>;
"psychosis(at)sky.com" <psychosis(at)sky.com>; René Krøll <rk(at)giorsoine.dk>; Rolf Loschek <rolfloschek(at)yahoo.de>; tim.diplomacy <tim.diplomacy(at)gmail.com>; Warren Fleming <alwayshunted(at)hotmail.com>
Sent: Sunday, 1 July 2012, 20:09
Subject: DC406: Fall 08 Retreats!

Hi all,Retreats are in early! Seems that good planning allows for quick decisions. Whether those decisions are right or wrong remains to be determined.Reminds me a bit of the US holiday we in the States are about to celebrate. The Americans planned well, had a good purpose to fight for. The Brits, on the other hand, didn't take the revolt seriously, thought they were putting down a small revolution, and didn't bring in the big guns until too late. We all know how well THAT strategy worked.


Retreats, Fall 08:-------------------------Gnomes: A Newa River - Elephant GraveyardOgres: A Cyriss - Moominvalley
Look at this -- for once, everyone still in the game has either a build or a disband; no one is sitting on the sidelines just watching. 
Adjustment Deadline is Tuesday, July 3rd. Let's get them in before the holiday, otherwise there'll be *explosions*.

Americans:---------------Archers:     Supp  6 Unit  5 Build  1 Dwarves:     Supp 13 Unit 12 Build  1 Faeries:     Supp 11 Unit 10 Build  1 Knights:     Supp 13 Unit 12 Build  1 
Leprechauns: Supp  8 Unit  6 Build  2 Ogres:       Supp 21 Unit 15 Build  6 Pirates:     Supp 10 Unit  9 Build  1 Undead:      Supp  4 Unit  2 Build  2 
British:
---------Gnomes:      Supp  2 Unit  3 Remove  1 Hobbits:     Supp  3 Unit  6 Remove  3 Magicians:   Supp  5 Unit  7 Remove  2 Nomads:      Supp  1 Unit  3 Remove  2 
Trolls:      Supp  5 Unit  7 Remove  2 
Mexico:---------
Atlantis:----------Barbarians:  Supp  0 Unit  0 Build  0 Centaurs:    Supp  0 Unit  0 Build  0 
Elves:       Supp  0 Unit  0 Build  0 Rogues:      Supp  0 Unit  0 Build  0 Samurai:     Supp  0 Unit  0 Build  0 Wizards:     Supp  0 Unit  0 Build  0 

Thanks,Mike---------
"Sit Long, Talk Much, Laugh Often" -- anon
"Shared Pain is lessened, Shared Joy is increased" --- Spider Robinson

[Reply]

DC406: Fall 08 Retreats! - offdisc   (Jul 01, 2012, 2:09 pm)
Hi all,Retreats are in early! Seems that good planning allows for quick decisions. Whether those decisions are right or wrong remains to be determined.Reminds me a bit of the US holiday we in the States are about to celebrate. The Americans planned well, had a good purpose to fight for. The Brits, on the other hand, didn't take the revolt seriously, thought they were putting down a small revolution, and didn't bring in the big guns until too late. We all know how well THAT strategy worked.

Retreats, Fall 08:-------------------------Gnomes: A Newa River - Elephant GraveyardOgres: A Cyriss - Moominvalley
Look at this -- for once, everyone still in the game has either a build or a disband; no one is sitting on the sidelines just watching. 
Adjustment Deadline is Tuesday, July 3rd. Let's get them in before the holiday, otherwise there'll be *explosions*.

Americans:---------------Archers:     Supp  6 Unit  5 Build  1 Dwarves:     Supp 13 Unit 12 Build  1 Faeries:     Supp 11 Unit 10 Build  1 Knights:     Supp 13 Unit 12 Build  1 
Leprechauns: Supp  8 Unit  6 Build  2 Ogres:       Supp 21 Unit 15 Build  6 Pirates:     Supp 10 Unit  9 Build  1 Undead:      Supp  4 Unit  2 Build  2 
British:
---------Gnomes:      Supp  2 Unit  3 Remove  1 Hobbits:     Supp  3 Unit  6 Remove  3 Magicians:   Supp  5 Unit  7 Remove  2 Nomads:      Supp  1 Unit  3 Remove  2 
Trolls:      Supp  5 Unit  7 Remove  2 
Mexico:---------
Atlantis:----------Barbarians:  Supp  0 Unit  0 Build  0 Centaurs:    Supp  0 Unit  0 Build  0 
Elves:       Supp  0 Unit  0 Build  0 Rogues:      Supp  0 Unit  0 Build  0 Samurai:     Supp  0 Unit  0 Build  0 Wizards:     Supp  0 Unit  0 Build  0 

Thanks,Mike---------
"Sit Long, Talk Much, Laugh Often" -- anon
"Shared Pain is lessened, Shared Joy is increased" --- Spider Robinson

[Reply]

DC406: Fall 08 Retreats! (dc406) pieandmash Jul 01, 05:23 pm
hmm well I dont like single line statements on history, but I must point out that the colonies had a lot of help from the French, (and spanish and dutch) and its very unlikely the revolution would have succeeded without them...from a purely military perspective..in those early years....not to take anything away from my good friends your celebration of what was the birth of the greatest nation the world has ever seen.  I  for one thank God America is here and remains the superpower. 
From: Mike Hoffman <mrh(at)panix.com>
To: Maxatrest(at)yahoo.co.uk; Chris Bender <cbend37(at)aol.com>; Christopher Martin <dance.scholar(at)gmail.com>; dc406 <dc406(at)diplomaticcorp.com>; Garry Bledsoe <kielmarch(at)hotmail.com>; Hamish Williams <catsfather(at)gmail.com>; Jason K <githraine(at)yahoo.com>; Jeff Hall <hall.jeff(at)gmail.com>; Jerome Payne <jerome777(at)ymail.com>; Justin Card <justin(at)darkenedpath.com>; Mark Smith <markjsmith60(at)gmail.com>; Matt Kremer <kremer.matthew(at)gmail.com>; Michael Penner <mvpenner(at)yahoo.com>; Michael Sims <mike(at)fuzzylogicllc.net>; Pat.C C <patrickcharlescloutier(at)hotmail.com>; Philip Hahn <philip.a.hahn(at)gmail.com>;
"psychosis(at)sky.com" <psychosis(at)sky.com>; René Krøll <rk(at)giorsoine.dk>; Rolf Loschek <rolfloschek(at)yahoo.de>; tim.diplomacy <tim.diplomacy(at)gmail.com>; Warren Fleming <alwayshunted(at)hotmail.com>
Sent: Sunday, 1 July 2012, 20:09
Subject: DC406: Fall 08 Retreats!

Hi all,Retreats are in early! Seems that good planning allows for quick decisions. Whether those decisions are right or wrong remains to be determined.Reminds me a bit of the US holiday we in the States are about to celebrate. The Americans planned well, had a good purpose to fight for. The Brits, on the other hand, didn't take the revolt seriously, thought they were putting down a small revolution, and didn't bring in the big guns until too late. We all know how well THAT strategy worked.


Retreats, Fall 08:-------------------------Gnomes: A Newa River - Elephant GraveyardOgres: A Cyriss - Moominvalley
Look at this -- for once, everyone still in the game has either a build or a disband; no one is sitting on the sidelines just watching. 
Adjustment Deadline is Tuesday, July 3rd. Let's get them in before the holiday, otherwise there'll be *explosions*.

Americans:---------------Archers:     Supp  6 Unit  5 Build  1 Dwarves:     Supp 13 Unit 12 Build  1 Faeries:     Supp 11 Unit 10 Build  1 Knights:     Supp 13 Unit 12 Build  1 
Leprechauns: Supp  8 Unit  6 Build  2 Ogres:       Supp 21 Unit 15 Build  6 Pirates:     Supp 10 Unit  9 Build  1 Undead:      Supp  4 Unit  2 Build  2 
British:
---------Gnomes:      Supp  2 Unit  3 Remove  1 Hobbits:     Supp  3 Unit  6 Remove  3 Magicians:   Supp  5 Unit  7 Remove  2 Nomads:      Supp  1 Unit  3 Remove  2 
Trolls:      Supp  5 Unit  7 Remove  2 
Mexico:---------
Atlantis:----------Barbarians:  Supp  0 Unit  0 Build  0 Centaurs:    Supp  0 Unit  0 Build  0 
Elves:       Supp  0 Unit  0 Build  0 Rogues:      Supp  0 Unit  0 Build  0 Samurai:     Supp  0 Unit  0 Build  0 Wizards:     Supp  0 Unit  0 Build  0 

Thanks,Mike---------
"Sit Long, Talk Much, Laugh Often" -- anon
"Shared Pain is lessened, Shared Joy is increased" --- Spider Robinson
DC406: Fall 08 Retreats! (dc406) offdisc Jul 01, 05:44 pm
Max,Agreed, and I didn't intend to slight the assistance by the French, Spanish, Dutch. In fact, my initial listing for the category "No Adjustments Needed" was "France", but I realized that wasn't historically accurate since they were not sitting on the sidelines. 
Mike
---------
"Sit Long, Talk Much, Laugh Often" -- anon
"Shared Pain is lessened, Shared Joy is increased" --- Spider Robinson




On Sun, Jul 1, 2012 at 4:23 PM, max victory <maxatrest(at)yahoo.co.uk> wrote:

hmm well I dont like single line statements on history, but I must point out that the colonies had a lot of help from the French, (and spanish and dutch) and its very unlikely the revolution would have succeeded without them...from a purely military perspective..in those early years....not to take anything away from my good friends your celebration of what was the birth of the greatest nation the world has ever seen.  I  for one thank God America is here and remains the superpower. 


From: Mike Hoffman <mrh(at)panix.com>
To: Maxatrest(at)yahoo.co.uk; Chris Bender <cbend37(at)aol.com>; Christopher Martin <dance.scholar(at)gmail.com>; dc406 <dc406(at)diplomaticcorp.com>; Garry Bledsoe <kielmarch(at)hotmail.com>; Hamish Williams <catsfather(at)gmail.com>; Jason K <githraine(at)yahoo.com>; Jeff Hall <hall.jeff(at)gmail.com>; Jerome Payne <jerome777(at)ymail.com>; Justin Card <justin(at)darkenedpath.com>; Mark Smith <markjsmith60(at)gmail.com>; Matt Kremer <kremer.matthew(at)gmail.com>; Michael Penner <mvpenner(at)yahoo.com>; Michael Sims <mike(at)fuzzylogicllc.net>; Pat.C C <patrickcharlescloutier(at)hotmail.com>; Philip Hahn <philip.a.hahn(at)gmail.com>;
"psychosis(at)sky.com" <psychosis(at)sky.com>; René Krøll <rk(at)giorsoine.dk>; Rolf Loschek <rolfloschek(at)yahoo.de>; tim.diplomacy <tim.diplomacy(at)gmail.com>; Warren Fleming <alwayshunted(at)hotmail.com>

Sent: Sunday, 1 July 2012, 20:09
Subject: DC406: Fall 08 Retreats!

Hi all,
Retreats are in early! Seems that good planning allows for quick decisions. Whether those decisions are right or wrong remains to be determined.Reminds me a bit of the US holiday we in the States are about to celebrate. The Americans planned well, had a good purpose to fight for. The Brits, on the other hand, didn't take the revolt seriously, thought they were putting down a small revolution, and didn't bring in the big guns until too late. We all know how well THAT strategy worked.


Retreats, Fall 08:-------------------------Gnomes: A Newa River - Elephant GraveyardOgres: A Cyriss - Moominvalley
Look at this -- for once, everyone still in the game has either a build or a disband; no one is sitting on the sidelines just watching. 
Adjustment Deadline is Tuesday, July 3rd. Let's get them in before the holiday, otherwise there'll be *explosions*.

Americans:---------------Archers:     Supp  6 Unit  5 Build  1 Dwarves:     Supp 13 Unit 12 Build  1 Faeries:     Supp 11 Unit 10 Build  1 Knights:     Supp 13 Unit 12 Build  1 
Leprechauns: Supp  8 Unit  6 Build  2 Ogres:       Supp 21 Unit 15 Build  6 Pirates:     Supp 10 Unit  9 Build  1 Undead:      Supp  4 Unit  2 Build  2 
British:
---------Gnomes:      Supp  2 Unit  3 Remove  1 Hobbits:     Supp  3 Unit  6 Remove  3 Magicians:   Supp  5 Unit  7 Remove  2 Nomads:      Supp  1 Unit  3 Remove  2 
Trolls:      Supp  5 Unit  7 Remove  2 
Mexico:---------
Atlantis:----------Barbarians:  Supp  0 Unit  0 Build  0 Centaurs:    Supp  0 Unit  0 Build  0 
Elves:       Supp  0 Unit  0 Build  0 Rogues:      Supp  0 Unit  0 Build  0 Samurai:     Supp  0 Unit  0 Build  0 Wizards:     Supp  0 Unit  0 Build  0 

Thanks,Mike---------
"Sit Long, Talk Much, Laugh Often" -- anon
"Shared Pain is lessened, Shared Joy is increased" --- Spider Robinson
DC406: Fall 08 Retreats! (dc406) DancingQueen Jul 03, 12:30 pm
Just out of curiousity, is there any actual "diplomacy" going on any more, or have the draw participants sorted themselves out and are simply grinding through to the finish?
I'm not much interested in games where I have a fair percentage of centers but never receive any substantive press.  I can't imagine anyone else is either?!?

DQ

On Sun, Jul 1, 2012 at 6:44 PM, Mike Hoffman <mrh(at)panix.com> wrote:

Max,Agreed, and I didn't intend to slight the assistance by the French, Spanish, Dutch. In fact, my initial listing for the category "No Adjustments Needed" was "France", but I realized that wasn't historically accurate since they were not sitting on the sidelines. 

Mike
---------
"Sit Long, Talk Much, Laugh Often" -- anon
"Shared Pain is lessened, Shared Joy is increased" --- Spider Robinson




On Sun, Jul 1, 2012 at 4:23 PM, max victory <maxatrest(at)yahoo.co.uk> wrote:


hmm well I dont like single line statements on history, but I must point out that the colonies had a lot of help from the French, (and spanish and dutch) and its very unlikely the revolution would have succeeded without them...from a purely military perspective..in those early years....not to take anything away from my good friends your celebration of what was the birth of the greatest nation the world has ever seen.  I  for one thank God America is here and remains the superpower. 




From: Mike Hoffman <mrh(at)panix.com>
To: Maxatrest(at)yahoo.co.uk; Chris Bender <cbend37(at)aol.com>; Christopher Martin <dance.scholar(at)gmail.com>; dc406 <dc406(at)diplomaticcorp.com>; Garry Bledsoe <kielmarch(at)hotmail.com>; Hamish Williams <catsfather(at)gmail.com>; Jason K <githraine(at)yahoo.com>; Jeff Hall <hall.jeff(at)gmail.com>; Jerome Payne <jerome777(at)ymail.com>; Justin Card <justin(at)darkenedpath.com>; Mark Smith <markjsmith60(at)gmail.com>; Matt Kremer <kremer.matthew(at)gmail.com>; Michael Penner <mvpenner(at)yahoo.com>; Michael Sims <mike(at)fuzzylogicllc.net>; Pat.C C <patrickcharlescloutier(at)hotmail.com>; Philip Hahn <philip.a.hahn(at)gmail.com>;
"psychosis(at)sky.com" <psychosis(at)sky.com>; René Krøll <rk(at)giorsoine.dk>; Rolf Loschek <rolfloschek(at)yahoo.de>; tim.diplomacy <tim.diplomacy(at)gmail.com>; Warren Fleming <alwayshunted(at)hotmail.com>


Sent: Sunday, 1 July 2012, 20:09
Subject: DC406: Fall 08 Retreats!

Hi all,
Retreats are in early! Seems that good planning allows for quick decisions. Whether those decisions are right or wrong remains to be determined.Reminds me a bit of the US holiday we in the States are about to celebrate. The Americans planned well, had a good purpose to fight for. The Brits, on the other hand, didn't take the revolt seriously, thought they were putting down a small revolution, and didn't bring in the big guns until too late. We all know how well THAT strategy worked.



Retreats, Fall 08:-------------------------Gnomes: A Newa River - Elephant GraveyardOgres: A Cyriss - Moominvalley
Look at this -- for once, everyone still in the game has either a build or a disband; no one is sitting on the sidelines just watching. 

Adjustment Deadline is Tuesday, July 3rd. Let's get them in before the holiday, otherwise there'll be *explosions*.

Americans:---------------Archers:     Supp  6 Unit  5 Build  1 Dwarves:     Supp 13 Unit 12 Build  1 Faeries:     Supp 11 Unit 10 Build  1 Knights:     Supp 13 Unit 12 Build  1 

Leprechauns: Supp  8 Unit  6 Build  2 Ogres:       Supp 21 Unit 15 Build  6 Pirates:     Supp 10 Unit  9 Build  1 Undead:      Supp  4 Unit  2 Build  2 
British:

---------Gnomes:      Supp  2 Unit  3 Remove  1 Hobbits:     Supp  3 Unit  6 Remove  3 Magicians:   Supp  5 Unit  7 Remove  2 Nomads:      Supp  1 Unit  3 Remove  2 

Trolls:      Supp  5 Unit  7 Remove  2 
Mexico:---------
Atlantis:----------Barbarians:  Supp  0 Unit  0 Build  0 Centaurs:    Supp  0 Unit  0 Build  0 

Elves:       Supp  0 Unit  0 Build  0 Rogues:      Supp  0 Unit  0 Build  0 Samurai:     Supp  0 Unit  0 Build  0 Wizards:     Supp  0 Unit  0 Build  0 

Thanks,Mike---------
"Sit Long, Talk Much, Laugh Often" -- anon
"Shared Pain is lessened, Shared Joy is increased" --- Spider Robinson
DC406: Fall 08 Retreats! (dc406) Githraine Jul 03, 12:42 pm
Is that an offer of surrender?
I will gladly accept your SCs!

From: Christopher Martin <dance.scholar(at)gmail.com>
To: mrh(at)panix.com
Cc: max victory <maxatrest(at)yahoo.co.uk>; Chris Bender <cbend37(at)aol.com>; dc406 <dc406(at)diplomaticcorp.com>; Garry Bledsoe <kielmarch(at)hotmail.com>; Hamish Williams <catsfather(at)gmail.com>; Jason K <githraine(at)yahoo.com>; Jeff Hall <hall.jeff(at)gmail.com>; Jerome Payne <jerome777(at)ymail.com>; Justin Card <justin(at)darkenedpath.com>; Mark Smith <markjsmith60(at)gmail.com>; Matt Kremer
<kremer.matthew(at)gmail.com>; Michael Penner <mvpenner(at)yahoo.com>; Michael Sims <mike(at)fuzzylogicllc.net>; Pat.C C <patrickcharlescloutier(at)hotmail.com>; Philip Hahn <philip.a.hahn(at)gmail.com>; "psychosis(at)sky.com" <psychosis(at)sky.com>; René Krøll <rk(at)giorsoine.dk>; Rolf Loschek <rolfloschek(at)yahoo.de>; tim.diplomacy <tim.diplomacy(at)gmail.com>; Warren Fleming <alwayshunted(at)hotmail.com>
Sent: Tuesday, July 3, 2012 1:30 PM
Subject: Re: DC406: Fall 08 Retreats!


Just out of curiousity, is there any actual "diplomacy" going on any more, or have the draw participants sorted themselves out and are simply grinding through to the finish?
I'm not much interested in games where I have a fair percentage of centers but never receive any substantive press.  I can't imagine anyone else is either?!?


DQ

On Sun, Jul 1, 2012 at 6:44 PM, Mike Hoffman <mrh(at)panix.com> wrote:


Max,Agreed, and I didn't intend to slight the assistance by the French, Spanish, Dutch. In fact, my initial listing for the category "No Adjustments Needed" was "France", but I realized that wasn't historically accurate since they were not sitting on the sidelines. 


Mike
---------
"Sit Long, Talk Much, Laugh Often" -- anon
"Shared Pain is lessened, Shared Joy is increased" --- Spider Robinson




On Sun, Jul 1, 2012 at 4:23 PM, max victory <maxatrest(at)yahoo.co.uk> wrote:



hmm well I dont like single line statements on history, but I must point out that the colonies had a lot of help from the French, (and spanish and dutch) and its very unlikely the revolution would have succeeded without them...from a purely military perspective..in those early years....not to take anything away from my good friends your celebration of what was the birth of the greatest nation the world has ever seen.  I  for one thank God America is here and remains the superpower. 






From: Mike Hoffman <mrh(at)panix.com>
To: Maxatrest(at)yahoo.co.uk; Chris Bender <cbend37(at)aol.com>; Christopher Martin <dance.scholar(at)gmail.com>; dc406 <dc406(at)diplomaticcorp.com>; Garry Bledsoe <kielmarch(at)hotmail.com>; Hamish Williams <catsfather(at)gmail.com>; Jason K <githraine(at)yahoo.com>; Jeff Hall <hall.jeff(at)gmail.com>; Jerome Payne <jerome777(at)ymail.com>; Justin Card <justin(at)darkenedpath.com>; Mark Smith <markjsmith60(at)gmail.com>; Matt Kremer <kremer.matthew(at)gmail.com>; Michael Penner <mvpenner(at)yahoo.com>; Michael Sims <mike(at)fuzzylogicllc.net>; Pat.C C <patrickcharlescloutier(at)hotmail.com>; Philip Hahn <philip.a.hahn(at)gmail.com>;
"psychosis(at)sky.com" <psychosis(at)sky.com>; René Krøll <rk(at)giorsoine.dk>; Rolf Loschek <rolfloschek(at)yahoo.de>; tim.diplomacy <tim.diplomacy(at)gmail.com>; Warren Fleming <alwayshunted(at)hotmail.com>



Sent: Sunday, 1 July 2012, 20:09
Subject: DC406: Fall 08 Retreats!

Hi all,
Retreats are in early! Seems that good planning allows for quick decisions. Whether those decisions are right or wrong remains to be determined.Reminds me a bit of the US holiday we in the States are about to celebrate. The Americans planned well, had a good purpose to fight for. The Brits, on the other hand, didn't take the revolt seriously, thought they were putting down a small revolution, and didn't bring in the big guns until too late. We all know how well THAT strategy worked.





Retreats, Fall 08:-------------------------Gnomes: A Newa River - Elephant GraveyardOgres: A Cyriss - Moominvalley
Look at this -- for once, everyone still in the game has either a build or a disband; no one is sitting on the sidelines just watching. 



Adjustment Deadline is Tuesday, July 3rd. Let's get them in before the holiday, otherwise there'll be *explosions*.

Americans:---------------Archers:     Supp  6 Unit  5 Build  1 Dwarves:     Supp 13 Unit 12 Build  1 Faeries:     Supp 11 Unit 10 Build  1 Knights:     Supp 13 Unit 12 Build  1 



Leprechauns: Supp  8 Unit  6 Build  2 Ogres:       Supp 21 Unit 15 Build  6 Pirates:     Supp 10 Unit  9 Build  1 Undead:      Supp  4 Unit  2 Build  2 
British:



---------Gnomes:      Supp  2 Unit  3 Remove  1 Hobbits:     Supp  3 Unit  6 Remove  3 Magicians:   Supp  5 Unit  7 Remove  2 Nomads:      Supp  1 Unit  3 Remove  2 



Trolls:      Supp  5 Unit  7 Remove  2 
Mexico:---------
Atlantis:----------Barbarians:  Supp  0 Unit  0 Build  0 Centaurs:    Supp  0 Unit  0 Build  0 



Elves:       Supp  0 Unit  0 Build  0 Rogues:      Supp  0 Unit  0 Build  0 Samurai:     Supp  0 Unit  0 Build  0 Wizards:     Supp  0 Unit  0 Build  0 

Thanks,Mike---------
"Sit Long, Talk Much, Laugh Often" -- anon
"Shared Pain is lessened, Shared Joy is increased" --- Spider Robinson
DC406: Fall 08 Retreats! (dc406) DancingQueen Jul 03, 12:45 pm
And THAT is the first substantive email I've received in a good long time. 
No offence, Jeff, but your replies to my emails just didn't contain any substance.  Smile


On Tue, Jul 3, 2012 at 1:42 PM, Jason K <githraine(at)yahoo.com> wrote:

Is that an offer of surrender?
I will gladly accept your SCs!


From: Christopher Martin <dance.scholar(at)gmail.com>

To: mrh(at)panix.com
Cc: max victory <maxatrest(at)yahoo.co.uk>; Chris Bender <cbend37(at)aol.com>; dc406 <dc406(at)diplomaticcorp.com>; Garry Bledsoe <kielmarch(at)hotmail.com>; Hamish Williams <catsfather(at)gmail.com>; Jason K <githraine(at)yahoo.com>; Jeff Hall <hall.jeff(at)gmail.com>; Jerome Payne <jerome777(at)ymail.com>; Justin Card <justin(at)darkenedpath.com>; Mark Smith <markjsmith60(at)gmail.com>; Matt Kremer
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Sent: Tuesday, July 3, 2012 1:30 PM
Subject: Re: DC406: Fall 08 Retreats!


Just out of curiousity, is there any actual "diplomacy" going on any more, or have the draw participants sorted themselves out and are simply grinding through to the finish?
I'm not much interested in games where I have a fair percentage of centers but never receive any substantive press.  I can't imagine anyone else is either?!?


DQ

On Sun, Jul 1, 2012 at 6:44 PM, Mike Hoffman <mrh(at)panix.com> wrote:


Max,Agreed, and I didn't intend to slight the assistance by the French, Spanish, Dutch. In fact, my initial listing for the category "No Adjustments Needed" was "France", but I realized that wasn't historically accurate since they were not sitting on the sidelines. 


Mike
---------
"Sit Long, Talk Much, Laugh Often" -- anon
"Shared Pain is lessened, Shared Joy is increased" --- Spider Robinson




On Sun, Jul 1, 2012 at 4:23 PM, max victory <maxatrest(at)yahoo.co.uk> wrote:


hmm well I dont like single line statements on history, but I must point out that the colonies had a lot of help from the French, (and spanish and dutch) and its very unlikely the revolution would have succeeded without them...from a purely military perspective..in those early years....not to take anything away from my good friends your celebration of what was the birth of the greatest nation the world has ever seen.  I  for one thank God America is here and remains the superpower. 






From: Mike Hoffman <mrh(at)panix.com>
To: Maxatrest(at)yahoo.co.uk; Chris Bender <cbend37(at)aol.com>; Christopher Martin <dance.scholar(at)gmail.com>; dc406 <dc406(at)diplomaticcorp.com>; Garry Bledsoe <kielmarch(at)hotmail.com>; Hamish Williams <catsfather(at)gmail.com>; Jason K <githraine(at)yahoo.com>; Jeff Hall <hall.jeff(at)gmail.com>; Jerome Payne <jerome777(at)ymail.com>; Justin Card <justin(at)darkenedpath.com>; Mark Smith <markjsmith60(at)gmail.com>; Matt Kremer <kremer.matthew(at)gmail.com>; Michael Penner <mvpenner(at)yahoo.com>; Michael Sims <mike(at)fuzzylogicllc.net>; Pat.C C <patrickcharlescloutier(at)hotmail.com>; Philip Hahn <philip.a.hahn(at)gmail.com>;
"psychosis(at)sky.com" <psychosis(at)sky.com>; René Krøll <rk(at)giorsoine.dk>; Rolf Loschek <rolfloschek(at)yahoo.de>; tim.diplomacy <tim.diplomacy(at)gmail.com>; Warren Fleming <alwayshunted(at)hotmail.com>



Sent: Sunday, 1 July 2012, 20:09
Subject: DC406: Fall 08 Retreats!

Hi all,
Retreats are in early! Seems that good planning allows for quick decisions. Whether those decisions are right or wrong remains to be determined.Reminds me a bit of the US holiday we in the States are about to celebrate. The Americans planned well, had a good purpose to fight for. The Brits, on the other hand, didn't take the revolt seriously, thought they were putting down a small revolution, and didn't bring in the big guns until too late. We all know how well THAT strategy worked.




Retreats, Fall 08:-------------------------Gnomes: A Newa River - Elephant GraveyardOgres: A Cyriss - Moominvalley
Look at this -- for once, everyone still in the game has either a build or a disband; no one is sitting on the sidelines just watching. 


Adjustment Deadline is Tuesday, July 3rd. Let's get them in before the holiday, otherwise there'll be *explosions*.

Americans:---------------Archers:     Supp  6 Unit  5 Build  1 Dwarves:     Supp 13 Unit 12 Build  1 Faeries:     Supp 11 Unit 10 Build  1 Knights:     Supp 13 Unit 12 Build  1 


Leprechauns: Supp  8 Unit  6 Build  2 Ogres:       Supp 21 Unit 15 Build  6 Pirates:     Supp 10 Unit  9 Build  1 Undead:      Supp  4 Unit  2 Build  2 
British:


---------Gnomes:      Supp  2 Unit  3 Remove  1 Hobbits:     Supp  3 Unit  6 Remove  3 Magicians:   Supp  5 Unit  7 Remove  2 Nomads:      Supp  1 Unit  3 Remove  2 


Trolls:      Supp  5 Unit  7 Remove  2 
Mexico:---------
Atlantis:----------Barbarians:  Supp  0 Unit  0 Build  0 Centaurs:    Supp  0 Unit  0 Build  0 


Elves:       Supp  0 Unit  0 Build  0 Rogues:      Supp  0 Unit  0 Build  0 Samurai:     Supp  0 Unit  0 Build  0 Wizards:     Supp  0 Unit  0 Build  0 

Thanks,Mike---------
"Sit Long, Talk Much, Laugh Often" -- anon
"Shared Pain is lessened, Shared Joy is increased" --- Spider Robinson
DC406: Fall 08 Retreats! (dc406) laxrulz777 Jul 03, 01:15 pm
ouch...


On Tue, Jul 3, 2012 at 1:45 PM, Christopher Martin <dance.scholar(at)gmail.com> wrote:

And THAT is the first substantive email I've received in a good long time. 
No offence, Jeff, but your replies to my emails just didn't contain any substance.  Smile



On Tue, Jul 3, 2012 at 1:42 PM, Jason K <githraine(at)yahoo.com> wrote:


Is that an offer of surrender?
I will gladly accept your SCs!



From: Christopher Martin <dance.scholar(at)gmail.com>


To: mrh(at)panix.com
Cc: max victory <maxatrest(at)yahoo.co.uk>; Chris Bender <cbend37(at)aol.com>; dc406 <dc406(at)diplomaticcorp.com>; Garry Bledsoe <kielmarch(at)hotmail.com>; Hamish Williams <catsfather(at)gmail.com>; Jason K <githraine(at)yahoo.com>; Jeff Hall <hall.jeff(at)gmail.com>; Jerome Payne <jerome777(at)ymail.com>; Justin Card <justin(at)darkenedpath.com>; Mark Smith <markjsmith60(at)gmail.com>; Matt Kremer
<kremer.matthew(at)gmail.com>; Michael Penner <mvpenner(at)yahoo.com>; Michael Sims <mike(at)fuzzylogicllc.net>; Pat.C C <patrickcharlescloutier(at)hotmail.com>; Philip Hahn <philip.a.hahn(at)gmail.com>; "psychosis(at)sky.com" <psychosis(at)sky.com>; René Krøll <rk(at)giorsoine.dk>; Rolf Loschek <rolfloschek(at)yahoo.de>; tim.diplomacy <tim.diplomacy(at)gmail.com>; Warren Fleming <alwayshunted(at)hotmail.com>


Sent: Tuesday, July 3, 2012 1:30 PM
Subject: Re: DC406: Fall 08 Retreats!


Just out of curiousity, is there any actual "diplomacy" going on any more, or have the draw participants sorted themselves out and are simply grinding through to the finish?
I'm not much interested in games where I have a fair percentage of centers but never receive any substantive press.  I can't imagine anyone else is either?!?



DQ

On Sun, Jul 1, 2012 at 6:44 PM, Mike Hoffman <mrh(at)panix.com> wrote:



Max,Agreed, and I didn't intend to slight the assistance by the French, Spanish, Dutch. In fact, my initial listing for the category "No Adjustments Needed" was "France", but I realized that wasn't historically accurate since they were not sitting on the sidelines. 


Mike
---------
"Sit Long, Talk Much, Laugh Often" -- anon
"Shared Pain is lessened, Shared Joy is increased" --- Spider Robinson




On Sun, Jul 1, 2012 at 4:23 PM, max victory <maxatrest(at)yahoo.co.uk> wrote:


hmm well I dont like single line statements on history, but I must point out that the colonies had a lot of help from the French, (and spanish and dutch) and its very unlikely the revolution would have succeeded without them...from a purely military perspective..in those early years....not to take anything away from my good friends your celebration of what was the birth of the greatest nation the world has ever seen.  I  for one thank God America is here and remains the superpower. 






From: Mike Hoffman <mrh(at)panix.com>
To: Maxatrest(at)yahoo.co.uk; Chris Bender <cbend37(at)aol.com>; Christopher Martin <dance.scholar(at)gmail.com>; dc406 <dc406(at)diplomaticcorp.com>; Garry Bledsoe <kielmarch(at)hotmail.com>; Hamish Williams <catsfather(at)gmail.com>; Jason K <githraine(at)yahoo.com>; Jeff Hall <hall.jeff(at)gmail.com>; Jerome Payne <jerome777(at)ymail.com>; Justin Card <justin(at)darkenedpath.com>; Mark Smith <markjsmith60(at)gmail.com>; Matt Kremer <kremer.matthew(at)gmail.com>; Michael Penner <mvpenner(at)yahoo.com>; Michael Sims <mike(at)fuzzylogicllc.net>; Pat.C C <patrickcharlescloutier(at)hotmail.com>; Philip Hahn <philip.a.hahn(at)gmail.com>;
"psychosis(at)sky.com" <psychosis(at)sky.com>; René Krøll <rk(at)giorsoine.dk>; Rolf Loschek <rolfloschek(at)yahoo.de>; tim.diplomacy <tim.diplomacy(at)gmail.com>; Warren Fleming <alwayshunted(at)hotmail.com>



Sent: Sunday, 1 July 2012, 20:09
Subject: DC406: Fall 08 Retreats!

Hi all,
Retreats are in early! Seems that good planning allows for quick decisions. Whether those decisions are right or wrong remains to be determined.Reminds me a bit of the US holiday we in the States are about to celebrate. The Americans planned well, had a good purpose to fight for. The Brits, on the other hand, didn't take the revolt seriously, thought they were putting down a small revolution, and didn't bring in the big guns until too late. We all know how well THAT strategy worked.




Retreats, Fall 08:-------------------------Gnomes: A Newa River - Elephant GraveyardOgres: A Cyriss - Moominvalley
Look at this -- for once, everyone still in the game has either a build or a disband; no one is sitting on the sidelines just watching. 



Adjustment Deadline is Tuesday, July 3rd. Let's get them in before the holiday, otherwise there'll be *explosions*.

Americans:---------------Archers:     Supp  6 Unit  5 Build  1 Dwarves:     Supp 13 Unit 12 Build  1 Faeries:     Supp 11 Unit 10 Build  1 Knights:     Supp 13 Unit 12 Build  1 



Leprechauns: Supp  8 Unit  6 Build  2 Ogres:       Supp 21 Unit 15 Build  6 Pirates:     Supp 10 Unit  9 Build  1 Undead:      Supp  4 Unit  2 Build  2 
British:



---------Gnomes:      Supp  2 Unit  3 Remove  1 Hobbits:     Supp  3 Unit  6 Remove  3 Magicians:   Supp  5 Unit  7 Remove  2 Nomads:      Supp  1 Unit  3 Remove  2 



Trolls:      Supp  5 Unit  7 Remove  2 
Mexico:---------
Atlantis:----------Barbarians:  Supp  0 Unit  0 Build  0 Centaurs:    Supp  0 Unit  0 Build  0 



Elves:       Supp  0 Unit  0 Build  0 Rogues:      Supp  0 Unit  0 Build  0 Samurai:     Supp  0 Unit  0 Build  0 Wizards:     Supp  0 Unit  0 Build  0 

Thanks,Mike---------
"Sit Long, Talk Much, Laugh Often" -- anon
"Shared Pain is lessened, Shared Joy is increased" --- Spider Robinson















--
It is better to be silent and thought a fool than to speak and remove all doubt
-Abraham Lincoln

The problem with Internet quotes is that you can never be certain of their accuracy

-Abraham Lincoln
DC406: Fall 08 Retreats! (dc406) DancingQueen Jul 03, 01:17 pm
Just like John Roberts, I'm just calling balls and strikes here . . . 
/ducks

On Tue, Jul 3, 2012 at 2:15 PM, Jeff Hall <hall.jeff(at)gmail.com> wrote:

ouch...


On Tue, Jul 3, 2012 at 1:45 PM, Christopher Martin <dance.scholar(at)gmail.com> wrote:


And THAT is the first substantive email I've received in a good long time. 
No offence, Jeff, but your replies to my emails just didn't contain any substance.  Smile




On Tue, Jul 3, 2012 at 1:42 PM, Jason K <githraine(at)yahoo.com> wrote:



Is that an offer of surrender?
I will gladly accept your SCs!




From: Christopher Martin <dance.scholar(at)gmail.com>



To: mrh(at)panix.com
Cc: max victory <maxatrest(at)yahoo.co.uk>; Chris Bender <cbend37(at)aol.com>; dc406 <dc406(at)diplomaticcorp.com>; Garry Bledsoe <kielmarch(at)hotmail.com>; Hamish Williams <catsfather(at)gmail.com>; Jason K <githraine(at)yahoo.com>; Jeff Hall <hall.jeff(at)gmail.com>; Jerome Payne <jerome777(at)ymail.com>; Justin Card <justin(at)darkenedpath.com>; Mark Smith <markjsmith60(at)gmail.com>; Matt Kremer
<kremer.matthew(at)gmail.com>; Michael Penner <mvpenner(at)yahoo.com>; Michael Sims <mike(at)fuzzylogicllc.net>; Pat.C C <patrickcharlescloutier(at)hotmail.com>; Philip Hahn <philip.a.hahn(at)gmail.com>; "psychosis(at)sky.com" <psychosis(at)sky.com>; René Krøll <rk(at)giorsoine.dk>; Rolf Loschek <rolfloschek(at)yahoo.de>; tim.diplomacy <tim.diplomacy(at)gmail.com>; Warren Fleming <alwayshunted(at)hotmail.com>



Sent: Tuesday, July 3, 2012 1:30 PM
Subject: Re: DC406: Fall 08 Retreats!


Just out of curiousity, is there any actual "diplomacy" going on any more, or have the draw participants sorted themselves out and are simply grinding through to the finish?
I'm not much interested in games where I have a fair percentage of centers but never receive any substantive press.  I can't imagine anyone else is either?!?




DQ

On Sun, Jul 1, 2012 at 6:44 PM, Mike Hoffman <mrh(at)panix.com> wrote:




Max,Agreed, and I didn't intend to slight the assistance by the French, Spanish, Dutch. In fact, my initial listing for the category "No Adjustments Needed" was "France", but I realized that wasn't historically accurate since they were not sitting on the sidelines. 



Mike
---------
"Sit Long, Talk Much, Laugh Often" -- anon
"Shared Pain is lessened, Shared Joy is increased" --- Spider Robinson




On Sun, Jul 1, 2012 at 4:23 PM, max victory <maxatrest(at)yahoo.co.uk> wrote:


hmm well I dont like single line statements on history, but I must point out that the colonies had a lot of help from the French, (and spanish and dutch) and its very unlikely the revolution would have succeeded without them...from a purely military perspective..in those early years....not to take anything away from my good friends your celebration of what was the birth of the greatest nation the world has ever seen.  I  for one thank God America is here and remains the superpower. 








From: Mike Hoffman <mrh(at)panix.com>
To: Maxatrest(at)yahoo.co.uk; Chris Bender <cbend37(at)aol.com>; Christopher Martin <dance.scholar(at)gmail.com>; dc406 <dc406(at)diplomaticcorp.com>; Garry Bledsoe <kielmarch(at)hotmail.com>; Hamish Williams <catsfather(at)gmail.com>; Jason K <githraine(at)yahoo.com>; Jeff Hall <hall.jeff(at)gmail.com>; Jerome Payne <jerome777(at)ymail.com>; Justin Card <justin(at)darkenedpath.com>; Mark Smith <markjsmith60(at)gmail.com>; Matt Kremer <kremer.matthew(at)gmail.com>; Michael Penner <mvpenner(at)yahoo.com>; Michael Sims <mike(at)fuzzylogicllc.net>; Pat.C C <patrickcharlescloutier(at)hotmail.com>; Philip Hahn <philip.a.hahn(at)gmail.com>;
"psychosis(at)sky.com" <psychosis(at)sky.com>; René Krøll <rk(at)giorsoine.dk>; Rolf Loschek <rolfloschek(at)yahoo.de>; tim.diplomacy <tim.diplomacy(at)gmail.com>; Warren Fleming <alwayshunted(at)hotmail.com>




Sent: Sunday, 1 July 2012, 20:09
Subject: DC406: Fall 08 Retreats!

Hi all,
Retreats are in early! Seems that good planning allows for quick decisions. Whether those decisions are right or wrong remains to be determined.Reminds me a bit of the US holiday we in the States are about to celebrate. The Americans planned well, had a good purpose to fight for. The Brits, on the other hand, didn't take the revolt seriously, thought they were putting down a small revolution, and didn't bring in the big guns until too late. We all know how well THAT strategy worked.





Retreats, Fall 08:-------------------------Gnomes: A Newa River - Elephant GraveyardOgres: A Cyriss - Moominvalley
Look at this -- for once, everyone still in the game has either a build or a disband; no one is sitting on the sidelines just watching. 




Adjustment Deadline is Tuesday, July 3rd. Let's get them in before the holiday, otherwise there'll be *explosions*.

Americans:---------------Archers:     Supp  6 Unit  5 Build  1 Dwarves:     Supp 13 Unit 12 Build  1 Faeries:     Supp 11 Unit 10 Build  1 Knights:     Supp 13 Unit 12 Build  1 




Leprechauns: Supp  8 Unit  6 Build  2 Ogres:       Supp 21 Unit 15 Build  6 Pirates:     Supp 10 Unit  9 Build  1 Undead:      Supp  4 Unit  2 Build  2 
British:




---------Gnomes:      Supp  2 Unit  3 Remove  1 Hobbits:     Supp  3 Unit  6 Remove  3 Magicians:   Supp  5 Unit  7 Remove  2 Nomads:      Supp  1 Unit  3 Remove  2 




Trolls:      Supp  5 Unit  7 Remove  2 
Mexico:---------
Atlantis:----------Barbarians:  Supp  0 Unit  0 Build  0 Centaurs:    Supp  0 Unit  0 Build  0 




Elves:       Supp  0 Unit  0 Build  0 Rogues:      Supp  0 Unit  0 Build  0 Samurai:     Supp  0 Unit  0 Build  0 Wizards:     Supp  0 Unit  0 Build  0 

Thanks,Mike---------
"Sit Long, Talk Much, Laugh Often" -- anon
"Shared Pain is lessened, Shared Joy is increased" --- Spider Robinson















--
It is better to be silent and thought a fool than to speak and remove all doubt
-Abraham Lincoln

The problem with Internet quotes is that you can never be certain of their accuracy


-Abraham Lincoln
DC406: Fall 08 Retreats! (dc406) laxrulz777 Jul 03, 01:24 pm
That's Chris Martin, folks. Only guy in the country that wants to compare himself to John Roberts right now Wink

On Tue, Jul 3, 2012 at 2:17 PM, Christopher Martin <dance.scholar(at)gmail.com> wrote:

Just like John Roberts, I'm just calling balls and strikes here . . . 
/ducks


On Tue, Jul 3, 2012 at 2:15 PM, Jeff Hall <hall.jeff(at)gmail.com> wrote:

ouch...


On Tue, Jul 3, 2012 at 1:45 PM, Christopher Martin <dance.scholar(at)gmail.com> wrote:


And THAT is the first substantive email I've received in a good long time. 
No offence, Jeff, but your replies to my emails just didn't contain any substance.  Smile




On Tue, Jul 3, 2012 at 1:42 PM, Jason K <githraine(at)yahoo.com> wrote:



Is that an offer of surrender?
I will gladly accept your SCs!




From: Christopher Martin <dance.scholar(at)gmail.com>



To: mrh(at)panix.com
Cc: max victory <maxatrest(at)yahoo.co.uk>; Chris Bender <cbend37(at)aol.com>; dc406 <dc406(at)diplomaticcorp.com>; Garry Bledsoe <kielmarch(at)hotmail.com>; Hamish Williams <catsfather(at)gmail.com>; Jason K <githraine(at)yahoo.com>; Jeff Hall <hall.jeff(at)gmail.com>; Jerome Payne <jerome777(at)ymail.com>; Justin Card <justin(at)darkenedpath.com>; Mark Smith <markjsmith60(at)gmail.com>; Matt Kremer
<kremer.matthew(at)gmail.com>; Michael Penner <mvpenner(at)yahoo.com>; Michael Sims <mike(at)fuzzylogicllc.net>; Pat.C C <patrickcharlescloutier(at)hotmail.com>; Philip Hahn <philip.a.hahn(at)gmail.com>; "psychosis(at)sky.com" <psychosis(at)sky.com>; René Krøll <rk(at)giorsoine.dk>; Rolf Loschek <rolfloschek(at)yahoo.de>; tim.diplomacy <tim.diplomacy(at)gmail.com>; Warren Fleming <alwayshunted(at)hotmail.com>



Sent: Tuesday, July 3, 2012 1:30 PM
Subject: Re: DC406: Fall 08 Retreats!


Just out of curiousity, is there any actual "diplomacy" going on any more, or have the draw participants sorted themselves out and are simply grinding through to the finish?
I'm not much interested in games where I have a fair percentage of centers but never receive any substantive press.  I can't imagine anyone else is either?!?




DQ

On Sun, Jul 1, 2012 at 6:44 PM, Mike Hoffman <mrh(at)panix.com> wrote:




Max,Agreed, and I didn't intend to slight the assistance by the French, Spanish, Dutch. In fact, my initial listing for the category "No Adjustments Needed" was "France", but I realized that wasn't historically accurate since they were not sitting on the sidelines. 




Mike
---------
"Sit Long, Talk Much, Laugh Often" -- anon
"Shared Pain is lessened, Shared Joy is increased" --- Spider Robinson




On Sun, Jul 1, 2012 at 4:23 PM, max victory <maxatrest(at)yahoo.co.uk> wrote:


hmm well I dont like single line statements on history, but I must point out that the colonies had a lot of help from the French, (and spanish and dutch) and its very unlikely the revolution would have succeeded without them...from a purely military perspective..in those early years....not to take anything away from my good friends your celebration of what was the birth of the greatest nation the world has ever seen.  I  for one thank God America is here and remains the superpower. 










From: Mike Hoffman <mrh(at)panix.com>
To: Maxatrest(at)yahoo.co.uk; Chris Bender <cbend37(at)aol.com>; Christopher Martin <dance.scholar(at)gmail.com>; dc406 <dc406(at)diplomaticcorp.com>; Garry Bledsoe <kielmarch(at)hotmail.com>; Hamish Williams <catsfather(at)gmail.com>; Jason K <githraine(at)yahoo.com>; Jeff Hall <hall.jeff(at)gmail.com>; Jerome Payne <jerome777(at)ymail.com>; Justin Card <justin(at)darkenedpath.com>; Mark Smith <markjsmith60(at)gmail.com>; Matt Kremer <kremer.matthew(at)gmail.com>; Michael Penner <mvpenner(at)yahoo.com>; Michael Sims <mike(at)fuzzylogicllc.net>; Pat.C C <patrickcharlescloutier(at)hotmail.com>; Philip Hahn <philip.a.hahn(at)gmail.com>;
"psychosis(at)sky.com" <psychosis(at)sky.com>; René Krøll <rk(at)giorsoine.dk>; Rolf Loschek <rolfloschek(at)yahoo.de>; tim.diplomacy <tim.diplomacy(at)gmail.com>; Warren Fleming <alwayshunted(at)hotmail.com>





Sent: Sunday, 1 July 2012, 20:09
Subject: DC406: Fall 08 Retreats!

Hi all,
Retreats are in early! Seems that good planning allows for quick decisions. Whether those decisions are right or wrong remains to be determined.Reminds me a bit of the US holiday we in the States are about to celebrate. The Americans planned well, had a good purpose to fight for. The Brits, on the other hand, didn't take the revolt seriously, thought they were putting down a small revolution, and didn't bring in the big guns until too late. We all know how well THAT strategy worked.






Retreats, Fall 08:-------------------------Gnomes: A Newa River - Elephant GraveyardOgres: A Cyriss - Moominvalley
Look at this -- for once, everyone still in the game has either a build or a disband; no one is sitting on the sidelines just watching. 




Adjustment Deadline is Tuesday, July 3rd. Let's get them in before the holiday, otherwise there'll be *explosions*.

Americans:---------------Archers:     Supp  6 Unit  5 Build  1 Dwarves:     Supp 13 Unit 12 Build  1 Faeries:     Supp 11 Unit 10 Build  1 Knights:     Supp 13 Unit 12 Build  1 




Leprechauns: Supp  8 Unit  6 Build  2 Ogres:       Supp 21 Unit 15 Build  6 Pirates:     Supp 10 Unit  9 Build  1 Undead:      Supp  4 Unit  2 Build  2 
British:




---------Gnomes:      Supp  2 Unit  3 Remove  1 Hobbits:     Supp  3 Unit  6 Remove  3 Magicians:   Supp  5 Unit  7 Remove  2 Nomads:      Supp  1 Unit  3 Remove  2 




Trolls:      Supp  5 Unit  7 Remove  2 
Mexico:---------
Atlantis:----------Barbarians:  Supp  0 Unit  0 Build  0 Centaurs:    Supp  0 Unit  0 Build  0 




Elves:       Supp  0 Unit  0 Build  0 Rogues:      Supp  0 Unit  0 Build  0 Samurai:     Supp  0 Unit  0 Build  0 Wizards:     Supp  0 Unit  0 Build  0 

Thanks,Mike---------
"Sit Long, Talk Much, Laugh Often" -- anon
"Shared Pain is lessened, Shared Joy is increased" --- Spider Robinson















--
It is better to be silent and thought a fool than to speak and remove all doubt
-Abraham Lincoln

The problem with Internet quotes is that you can never be certain of their accuracy


-Abraham Lincoln









--
It is better to be silent and thought a fool than to speak and remove all doubt
-Abraham Lincoln

The problem with Internet quotes is that you can never be certain of their accuracy

-Abraham Lincoln
DC406: Fall 08 Retreats! (dc406) DancingQueen Jul 03, 01:49 pm
Its not a stab, its a tax!

On Tue, Jul 3, 2012 at 2:43 PM, Jason K <githraine(at)yahoo.com> wrote:

And we have a winner!
DC406: Fall 08 Retreats! (dc406) jerome777 Jul 03, 02:38 pm
Who is John Roberts?And btw - for the record with the original question, this is the most press I've had for this game in weeks. JeromeSent from my BlackBerry® smartphoneFrom: Christopher Martin <dance.scholar(at)gmail.com>
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On Tue, Jul 3, 2012 at 2:43 PM, Jason K <githraine(at)yahoo.com> wrote:

And we have a winner!
DC406: Fall 08 Retreats! (dc406) laxrulz777 Jul 03, 02:43 pm
John Roberts is the chief justice of the supreme court (USA) who just ordered a very contentious ruling that really thread the needle of what is considered constitutional. Thereby angering both Republicans (by upholding the health care law in question) and Democrats (by calling it a tax). If you're a political wonk (like me Wink it's been real fun here for the past week.


On Tue, Jul 3, 2012 at 3:38 PM, Jerome Payne <jerome777(at)ymail.com> wrote:

Who is John Roberts?

And btw - for the record with the original question, this is the most press I've had for this game in weeks.

Jerome

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Subject: Re: DC406: Fall 08 Retreats!
Its not a stab, its a tax!

On Tue, Jul 3, 2012 at 2:43 PM, Jason K <githraine(at)yahoo.com> wrote:


And we have a winner!








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DC406: Fall 08 Retreats! (dc406) offdisc Jul 03, 04:10 pm
Jeff, from one poli-wonk to another:  How does Roberts justify not allowing Congress to regulate not doing something but allowing them to tax not owning something?
Mike
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"Shared Pain is lessened, Shared Joy is increased" --- Spider Robinson




On Tue, Jul 3, 2012 at 1:43 PM, Jeff Hall <hall.jeff(at)gmail.com> wrote:

John Roberts is the chief justice of the supreme court (USA) who just ordered a very contentious ruling that really thread the needle of what is considered constitutional. Thereby angering both Republicans (by upholding the health care law in question) and Democrats (by calling it a tax). If you're a political wonk (like me Wink it's been real fun here for the past week.



On Tue, Jul 3, 2012 at 3:38 PM, Jerome Payne <jerome777(at)ymail.com> wrote:

Who is John Roberts?

And btw - for the record with the original question, this is the most press I've had for this game in weeks.

Jerome

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Subject: Re: DC406: Fall 08 Retreats!
Its not a stab, its a tax!

On Tue, Jul 3, 2012 at 2:43 PM, Jason K <githraine(at)yahoo.com> wrote:


And we have a winner!








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DC406: Fall 08 Retreats! (dc406) BaronVonPWN Jul 03, 04:14 pm
I'm still getting some press, and if anyone has any proposals I'm willing to hear them.  I also do my best to reply to evryone, but sometimes you have to wonder if people are just fishing.

Pat.

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Just out of curiousity, is there any actual "diplomacy" going on any more, or have the draw participants sorted themselves out and are simply grinding through to the finish?
I'm not much interested in games where I have a fair percentage of centers but never receive any substantive press.  I can't imagine anyone else is either?!?

DQ

On Sun, Jul 1, 2012 at 6:44 PM, Mike Hoffman <mrh(at)panix.com> wrote:

Max,Agreed, and I didn't intend to slight the assistance by the French, Spanish, Dutch. In fact, my initial listing for the category "No Adjustments Needed" was "France", but I realized that wasn't historically accurate since they were not sitting on the sidelines. 

Mike
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"Shared Pain is lessened, Shared Joy is increased" --- Spider Robinson




On Sun, Jul 1, 2012 at 4:23 PM, max victory <maxatrest(at)yahoo.co.uk> wrote:


hmm well I dont like single line statements on history, but I must point out that the colonies had a lot of help from the French, (and spanish and dutch) and its very unlikely the revolution would have succeeded without them...from a purely military perspective..in those early years....not to take anything away from my good friends your celebration of what was the birth of the greatest nation the world has ever seen.  I  for one thank God America is here and remains the superpower. 




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Sent: Sunday, 1 July 2012, 20:09
Subject: DC406: Fall 08 Retreats!

Hi all,
Retreats are in early! Seems that good planning allows for quick decisions. Whether those decisions are right or wrong remains to be determined.Reminds me a bit of the US holiday we in the States are about to celebrate. The Americans planned well, had a good purpose to fight for. The Brits, on the other hand, didn't take the revolt seriously, thought they were putting down a small revolution, and didn't bring in the big guns until too late. We all know how well THAT strategy worked.



Retreats, Fall 08:-------------------------Gnomes: A Newa River - Elephant GraveyardOgres: A Cyriss - Moominvalley
Look at this -- for once, everyone still in the game has either a build or a disband; no one is sitting on the sidelines just watching. 

Adjustment Deadline is Tuesday, July 3rd. Let's get them in before the holiday, otherwise there'll be *explosions*.

Americans:---------------Archers:     Supp  6 Unit  5 Build  1 Dwarves:     Supp 13 Unit 12 Build  1 Faeries:     Supp 11 Unit 10 Build  1 Knights:     Supp 13 Unit 12 Build  1 

Leprechauns: Supp  8 Unit  6 Build  2 Ogres:       Supp 21 Unit 15 Build  6 Pirates:     Supp 10 Unit  9 Build  1 Undead:      Supp  4 Unit  2 Build  2 
British:

---------Gnomes:      Supp  2 Unit  3 Remove  1 Hobbits:     Supp  3 Unit  6 Remove  3 Magicians:   Supp  5 Unit  7 Remove  2 Nomads:      Supp  1 Unit  3 Remove  2 

Trolls:      Supp  5 Unit  7 Remove  2 
Mexico:---------
Atlantis:----------Barbarians:  Supp  0 Unit  0 Build  0 Centaurs:    Supp  0 Unit  0 Build  0 

Elves:       Supp  0 Unit  0 Build  0 Rogues:      Supp  0 Unit  0 Build  0 Samurai:     Supp  0 Unit  0 Build  0 Wizards:     Supp  0 Unit  0 Build  0 

Thanks,Mike---------
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"Shared Pain is lessened, Shared Joy is increased" --- Spider Robinson
DC406: Fall 08 Retreats! (dc406) pieandmash Jul 04, 01:50 am
well im always up for a chat Chris, but dont expect me to trust you!




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Subject: Re: DC406: Fall 08 Retreats!


Just out of curiousity, is there any actual "diplomacy" going on any more, or have the draw participants sorted themselves out and are simply grinding through to the finish?


I'm not much interested in games where I have a fair percentage of centers but never receive any substantive press.  I can't imagine anyone else is either?!?


DQ


On Sun, Jul 1, 2012 at 6:44 PM, Mike Hoffman <mrh(at)panix.com> wrote:

Max,
Agreed, and I didn't intend to slight the assistance by the French, Spanish, Dutch. In fact, my initial listing for the category "No Adjustments Needed" was "France", but I realized that wasn't historically accurate since they were not sitting on the sidelines. 
Mike
---------
"Sit Long, Talk Much, Laugh Often" -- anon
"Shared Pain is lessened, Shared Joy is increased" --- Spider Robinson





On Sun, Jul 1, 2012 at 4:23 PM, max victory <maxatrest(at)yahoo.co.uk> wrote:


hmm well I dont like single line statements on history, but I must point out that the colonies had a lot of help from the French, (and spanish and dutch) and its very unlikely the revolution would have succeeded without them...from a purely military perspective..in those early years....not to take anything away from my good friends your celebration of what was the birth of the greatest nation the world has ever seen.  I  for one thank God America is here and remains the superpower. 



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Sent: Sunday, 1 July 2012, 20:09
Subject: DC406: Fall 08 Retreats!



Hi all,
Retreats are in early! Seems that good planning allows for quick decisions. Whether those decisions are right or wrong remains to be determined.
Reminds me a bit of the US holiday we in the States are about to celebrate. The Americans planned well, had a good purpose to fight for. The Brits, on the other hand, didn't take the revolt seriously, thought they were putting down a small revolution, and didn't bring in the big guns until too late. We all know how well THAT strategy worked.


Retreats, Fall 08:
-------------------------
Gnomes: A Newa River - Elephant Graveyard
Ogres: A Cyriss - Moominvalley


Look at this -- for once, everyone still in the game has either a build or a disband; no one is sitting on the sidelines just watching. 
Adjustment Deadline is Tuesday, July 3rd. Let's get them in before the holiday, otherwise there'll be *explosions*.


Americans:
---------------
Archers:     Supp  6 Unit  5 Build  1 
Dwarves:     Supp 13 Unit 12 Build  1 
Faeries:     Supp 11 Unit 10 Build  1 
Knights:     Supp 13 Unit 12 Build  1 
Leprechauns: Supp  8 Unit  6 Build  2 
Ogres:       Supp 21 Unit 15 Build  6 
Pirates:     Supp 10 Unit  9 Build  1 
Undead:      Supp  4 Unit  2 Build  2 


British:
---------
Gnomes:      Supp  2 Unit  3 Remove  1 
Hobbits:     Supp  3 Unit  6 Remove  3 
Magicians:   Supp  5 Unit  7 Remove  2 
Nomads:      Supp  1 Unit  3 Remove  2 
Trolls:      Supp  5 Unit  7 Remove  2 


Mexico:
---------


Atlantis:
----------
Barbarians:  Supp  0 Unit  0 Build  0 
Centaurs:    Supp  0 Unit  0 Build  0 
Elves:       Supp  0 Unit  0 Build  0 
Rogues:      Supp  0 Unit  0 Build  0 
Samurai:     Supp  0 Unit  0 Build  0 
Wizards:     Supp  0 Unit  0 Build  0 


Thanks,
Mike---------
"Sit Long, Talk Much, Laugh Often" -- anon
"Shared Pain is lessened, Shared Joy is increased" --- Spider Robinson
dc414 Autumn 08 reminder - jerome777   (Jul 01, 2012, 1:53 pm)
Hi everyone,

A reminder that the deadline is 2000GMT tomorrow, just over 25 hours away.

Best,

Jerome

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dc431 replacement Britain found - smileyrob   (Jul 01, 2012, 11:08 am)
Gentlemen,

I have yet to hear from Ethan, and Mark Utterback (MDemagogue(at)gmail.com) has agreed to replace him. So Britain is now Mark's to play. Mark has already given build orders, but in case any of you desire to communicate with him before results are published, I'll extend the winter deadline until 8PM PDT this evening. (3AM GMT). As for Spring 1901 deadline, I'd prefer not to push it an extra week, but our normal Tuesday deadline seems a bit close. On the other hand, Wednesday is a holiday for many of us. What would you all prefer, stick with Tuesday, have it on the 4th, on Thursday the 5th, or just wait an entire week until Tuesday the 10th?


Robert

DC431 PLAYERS:

Austria: Jerome Payne jerome777(at)ymail.com
Britain: Ethan Schubert schu9914(at)vandals.uidaho.edu (abandoned Winter 1900)

            Mark Utterback MDemagogue(at)gmail.com (from Winter 1900)


France: Michael Nickles flexpoint1(at)gmail.com
Germany: Andrew Tanner amtrating(at)gmail.com

Italy: Jack McHugh jwmchughjr(at)gmail.com
Russia: Lynn Mercer hancockfc(at)yahoo.com

Turkey: Michael Thompson psychosis(at)sky.com

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dc414 Autumn 1907 moves - archimedes   (Jul 01, 2012, 7:51 am)
Everyone,
I am headed off to Boy Scout Summer Camp, I will be keeping tabs with my Beautiful Amazon Bride and will hopefully be able to maintain contact with everyone.  There is no wi-fi at camp.  If I need an extension I will let Jerome know, but I am hopeful with the way the schedule is falling that I will be ok and not have to request one.
Mark

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Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2012 3:52 PM
Subject: dc414 Autumn 1907 moves


Hi everyone,

Here's Autumn 07:

England:
F Brest - Gascony (*Fails*)
F English Channel Convoys A London - Belgium
F Gulf of Lyon - Spain(sc)
F Irish Sea - Mid-Atlantic Ocean
A Livonia Supports A Silesia - Warsaw
A London - Belgium (*Bounce*)
F St Petersburg(nc) Hold

France:
A Belgium - Holland
A Gascony Supports F Spain(nc) (*Cut*)
A Picardy - Belgium (*Bounce*)
F Spain(nc) Hold (*Dislodged*)

Germany:
A Marseilles Supports F Gulf of Lyon - Spain(sc)
A Piedmont - Tyrolia
A Silesia - Warsaw
A Vienna Supports A Piedmont - Tyrolia
A Warsaw - Ukraine

Italy:
F Adriatic Sea - Ionian Sea
A Bulgaria Supports F Constantinople
F Constantinople Supports F Smyrna (*Cut*)
A Serbia Supports A Trieste - Budapest
F Smyrna Supports F
Constantinople
A Trieste - Budapest
F
Tunis - Western Mediterranean
F Tyrrhenian Sea Supports F Tunis - Western Mediterranean
A Venice - Trieste

Russia:
A Armenia - Ankara (*Fails*)
A Budapest Supports A Trieste - Vienna (*Disbanded*)
A Galicia - Rumania (*Bounce*)
A Moscow Supports A Livonia - Warsaw (*Void*)
A Sevastopol Supports A Moscow

Turkey:
A Ankara - Constantinople (*Fails*)
F Black Sea - Rumania (*Bounce*)

So, one retreat is due. Manolis - I've auto-retreated Spain to the only place it can go, Portugal. If you want to, you can retreat it off-the-board and build an army in Paris instead. I'll put one deadline for Winter 07, it's tomorrow at 2000GMT - but if anyone wants to, they can make their adjustments dependent upon Manolis's retreat-or-disband decision.

The adjustments are as follows (assuming the retreat stands, Manolis if you disband Spa instead of retreating to Por, you can take an army build in
Paris):

Austria:   Supp  0 Unit  0 Build  0
England:   Supp  8 Unit  7 Build  1
France:    Supp  4 Unit  4 Build  0
Germany:   Supp  7 Unit  5 Build  2
Italy:     Supp 11 Unit  9 Build  2
Russia:    Supp  3 Unit  4 Remove  1
Turkey:    Supp  1 Unit  2 Remove  1

Deadline for adjustments is tomorrow, Wednesday 20 June, at 2000GMT.

Best,

Jerome

[Reply]

DC431 needs replacement Britain - MDemagogue   (Jul 01, 2012, 2:49 am)
I'll take it if that's cool?

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DC 428 Summer 1903 Retreats - Zoterik   (Jul 01, 2012, 12:15 am)
The summer retreats are in, and we wake to find the Italians have retreated forward into Trieste and the French threaten Liverpool.  Map attached; the Fall 1903 moves are due 9:00pm US Central Time on Friday, 6th July, or 03:00 BST on Saturday, 7th July.

FranceF Mid Atlantic Ocean - Irish SeaA Burgundy - Gascony

ItalyA Albania - Trieste

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DC406: Fall 08 Results! - offdisc   (Jun 29, 2012, 7:47 pm)
Keeping it consistent for the 08 season!Mike
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"Shared Pain is lessened, Shared Joy is increased" --- Spider Robinson




On Fri, Jun 29, 2012 at 6:42 PM, Mike Hoffman <mrh(at)panix.com> wrote:

Hi All,I've got good news and bad news. The bad news, you already now -- the results are late.The good news, though, is that my wife is FINALLY back home! Yeah!  So now your GM can return to being his jovial, fun-loving self.

That doesn't mean you'll get results any more on-time than before. Wink
So, without further ado, here are your Fall 08 Move Results!
Need Retreats:
Gnomes: A Newa River --> Ele, or OTBOgres: A Cyriss --> IMM, Gre, PoD, Moo, Woo, or OTB
No-need for Retreats, we just shot them on sight:Archers: A Fionavar  (*Disbanded*)
Nomads: A Cathal  (*Disbanded*)
Deadline for Fall 08 Retreats is Monday, July 2nd at 5PM.  You've got all weekend to forget about them and risk the deadline.

Fall 08 Move Results----------------------------Archers: A Prydain Supports A Spiral Castle - Strawberry FieldsA Fionavar Hold (*Disbanded*)A Spiral Castle - Strawberry Fields
A Drynwyn - Avalon (*Bounce*)A Pendaran Wood Supports A Sleepy Hollow - CathalF Dragons Teeth Mtns - Kingdom of Hearts
Dwarves: F Mount Nimro - EAST MIRIANIC OCEAN
F Travers Town HoldA Myth Drannor - Port GhaastA Tymwyvenne Supports A Yggdrasil - Cave of OrdealsA Hidden Grotto Supports A Yggdrasil - Cave of OrdealsA Yggdrasil - Cave of Ordeals
A Carpantha - Mount NimroF ALL SAINTS BAY Supports F CHURNING REACH - WEST MIRIANIC OCEANF RUGGED COAST - CHOCOLATE RIVERF RIFT CANYON - RUGGED COASTF RESTLESS WATERS - Land Ho
F GULF OF LUHN - Mordor
Faeries: F Grimheim - AshanA Corona - To-Gai-RuA Palmaris - Dargaard Keep (*Bounce*)A Land of Sweets - Fionavar
A Strawberry Fields - Dragons Teeth Mtns
A Acme Acres - Land of SweetsF CELESTIAL DELTA - Shady Vale (*Fails*)F TILVA STRAIT - NORTH MIRIANIC OCEANF EAST MIRIANIC OCEAN - Gumdrop IsleF CHOCOLATE RIVER - HORNED BAY

Gnomes: A Hundred Acre Wood - Avalon (*Bounce*)A Newa River Hold (*Dislodged*)A Daniloth Supports A Newa River
Hobbits: F Mordor - Yuirwood
A Thirsty Desert - KrikkitA Golgafrincham - NowwhatA Rivendell - Mordor (*Fails*)F The High Way - Rivendell (*Fails*)F SEA OF FALLEN STARS - Lindon

Knights: A GuTanoth Supports A Paras DervalA Paras Derval Supports A GuTanothA Tumnus Supports F GrisselF Grissel HoldA Wing Hove - Grimpen Ward (*Bounce*)
A Sleepy Hollow - CathalF Ice Reach - Arctic Barrens (*Fails*)F Aslan Supports F CRYSTAL LAKE - AnvardF Calormen Supports F GrisselA Shady Vale - Grimpen Ward (*Bounce*)
F CRYSTAL LAKE - AnvardF MIST MARSH - Telmar
Leprechauns: A Skellington Supports A EverglotF Enchanted Isles HoldF Necronomicon - THE MAWF THE MAW - Ansalon
F THUNDERHEAD Supports F Necronomicon - THE MAWF BABEL BEACH Supports F Enchanted Isles
Magicians: A Tarsis Supports A Ergoth - CyrissA Ergoth - Cyriss
F Krynn - HIGH SEAS (*Fails*)F Istar - EAST SEA OF SHADOWS (*Fails*)F WAY THE HECK Supports F Krynn - HIGH SEASF WEST SEA OF SHADOWS Supports F Krynn - HIGH SEASF EAST SEA OF SHADOWS - Dargaard Keep (*Bounce*)

Nomads: A Cathal Supports A Pendaran Wood - Sleepy Hollow (*Disbanded*)F Arctic Barrens - Ice Reach (*Fails*)A River Saeren Supports A Land of Sweets - Fionavar
A Knurremurre Supports A Strawberry Fields - Dragons Teeth Mtns
Ogres: A Magrathea - The WilderlandF Fjord Supports A Magrathea - The WilderlandA Kahvi - Niflheim
F City of Splendors Supports F Valley of Lost Honor - Thirsty DesertA Cyriss Hold (*Dislodged*)F Valley of Lost Honor - Thirsty DesertA Two Towers Supports F GULF OF LUHN - Mordor
F Candlekeep Supports F GULF OF LUHN - MordorA Uhl Belk Supports A EverglotF Allerleirauh Supports F FjordA Anhondon Plain - Valley of Lost HonorF Critter Country - Groves of Academe
F BIKINI BOTTOM Supports F THE MAW - AnsalonF CHURNING REACH - WEST MIRIANIC OCEANF RIVER OF THE DAWN - Waterdeep
Pirates: A The Neverwood - Travers Town (*Fails*)
F Never Never Land Supports F HIGH SEASA Far Far Away - KahviF Endor Supports F RIFT CANYON - RUGGED COASTA Groves of Academe - Slightly GulchA Elephant Graveyard - Loxley
F GRIEF REEF Supports F HIGH SEASF HIGH SEAS Convoys A Far Far Away - KahviF PIRATE SHOALS - Pans Labyrinth
Trolls: A Troldhaugen Supports A Cave of Ordeals - Newa River
A Orboros - Grissel (*Fails*)A Cave of Ordeals - Newa RiverF SUNLESS SEA Supports A Orboros - GrisselF BEAVERSDAM Supports F SUNLESS SEAF TROG BOG Supports A Orboros - Grissel
F THON THALAS Supports A Cave of Ordeals - Newa River
Undead: A Everglot HoldF Timberlands - Istar (*Fails*)
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"Sit Long, Talk Much, Laugh Often" -- anon

"Shared Pain is lessened, Shared Joy is increased" --- Spider Robinson

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DC406: Fall 08 Results! - offdisc   (Jun 29, 2012, 7:42 pm)
Hi All,I've got good news and bad news. The bad news, you already now -- the results are late.The good news, though, is that my wife is FINALLY back home! Yeah!  So now your GM can return to being his jovial, fun-loving self.

That doesn't mean you'll get results any more on-time than before. Wink
So, without further ado, here are your Fall 08 Move Results!
Need Retreats:
Gnomes: A Newa River --> Ele, or OTBOgres: A Cyriss --> IMM, Gre, PoD, Moo, Woo, or OTB
No-need for Retreats, we just shot them on sight:Archers: A Fionavar  (*Disbanded*)
Nomads: A Cathal  (*Disbanded*)
Deadline for Fall 08 Retreats is Monday, July 2nd at 5PM.  You've got all weekend to forget about them and risk the deadline.

Fall 08 Move Results----------------------------Archers: A Prydain Supports A Spiral Castle - Strawberry FieldsA Fionavar Hold (*Disbanded*)A Spiral Castle - Strawberry Fields
A Drynwyn - Avalon (*Bounce*)A Pendaran Wood Supports A Sleepy Hollow - CathalF Dragons Teeth Mtns - Kingdom of Hearts
Dwarves: F Mount Nimro - EAST MIRIANIC OCEAN
F Travers Town HoldA Myth Drannor - Port GhaastA Tymwyvenne Supports A Yggdrasil - Cave of OrdealsA Hidden Grotto Supports A Yggdrasil - Cave of OrdealsA Yggdrasil - Cave of Ordeals
A Carpantha - Mount NimroF ALL SAINTS BAY Supports F CHURNING REACH - WEST MIRIANIC OCEANF RUGGED COAST - CHOCOLATE RIVERF RIFT CANYON - RUGGED COASTF RESTLESS WATERS - Land Ho
F GULF OF LUHN - Mordor
Faeries: F Grimheim - AshanA Corona - To-Gai-RuA Palmaris - Dargaard Keep (*Bounce*)A Land of Sweets - FionavarA Strawberry Fields - Dragons Teeth Mtns
A Acme Acres - Land of SweetsF CELESTIAL DELTA - Shady Vale (*Fails*)F TILVA STRAIT - NORTH MIRIANIC OCEANF EAST MIRIANIC OCEAN - Gumdrop IsleF CHOCOLATE RIVER - HORNED BAY

Gnomes: A Hundred Acre Wood - Avalon (*Bounce*)A Newa River Hold (*Dislodged*)A Daniloth Supports A Newa River
Hobbits: F Mordor - Yuirwood
A Thirsty Desert - KrikkitA Golgafrincham - NowwhatA Rivendell - Mordor (*Fails*)F The High Way - Rivendell (*Fails*)F SEA OF FALLEN STARS - Lindon

Knights: A GuTanoth Supports A Paras DervalA Paras Derval Supports A GuTanothA Tumnus Supports F GrisselF Grissel HoldA Wing Hove - Grimpen Ward (*Bounce*)
A Sleepy Hollow - CathalF Ice Reach - Arctic Barrens (*Fails*)F Aslan Supports F CRYSTAL LAKE - AnvardF Calormen Supports F GrisselA Shady Vale - Grimpen Ward (*Bounce*)
F CRYSTAL LAKE - AnvardF MIST MARSH - Telmar
Leprechauns: A Skellington Supports A EverglotF Enchanted Isles HoldF Necronomicon - THE MAWF THE MAW - Ansalon
F THUNDERHEAD Supports F Necronomicon - THE MAWF BABEL BEACH Supports F Enchanted Isles
Magicians: A Tarsis Supports A Ergoth - CyrissA Ergoth - Cyriss
F Krynn - HIGH SEAS (*Fails*)F Istar - EAST SEA OF SHADOWS (*Fails*)F WAY THE HECK Supports F Krynn - HIGH SEASF WEST SEA OF SHADOWS Supports F Krynn - HIGH SEASF EAST SEA OF SHADOWS - Dargaard Keep (*Bounce*)

Nomads: A Cathal Supports A Pendaran Wood - Sleepy Hollow (*Disbanded*)F Arctic Barrens - Ice Reach (*Fails*)A River Saeren Supports A Land of Sweets - Fionavar
A Knurremurre Supports A Strawberry Fields - Dragons Teeth Mtns
Ogres: A Magrathea - The WilderlandF Fjord Supports A Magrathea - The WilderlandA Kahvi - Niflheim
F City of Splendors Supports F Valley of Lost Honor - Thirsty DesertA Cyriss Hold (*Dislodged*)F Valley of Lost Honor - Thirsty DesertA Two Towers Supports F GULF OF LUHN - Mordor
F Candlekeep Supports F GULF OF LUHN - MordorA Uhl Belk Supports A EverglotF Allerleirauh Supports F FjordA Anhondon Plain - Valley of Lost HonorF Critter Country - Groves of Academe
F BIKINI BOTTOM Supports F THE MAW - AnsalonF CHURNING REACH - WEST MIRIANIC OCEANF RIVER OF THE DAWN - Waterdeep
Pirates: A The Neverwood - Travers Town (*Fails*)
F Never Never Land Supports F HIGH SEASA Far Far Away - KahviF Endor Supports F RIFT CANYON - RUGGED COASTA Groves of Academe - Slightly GulchA Elephant Graveyard - Loxley
F GRIEF REEF Supports F HIGH SEASF HIGH SEAS Convoys A Far Far Away - KahviF PIRATE SHOALS - Pans Labyrinth
Trolls: A Troldhaugen Supports A Cave of Ordeals - Newa River
A Orboros - Grissel (*Fails*)A Cave of Ordeals - Newa RiverF SUNLESS SEA Supports A Orboros - GrisselF BEAVERSDAM Supports F SUNLESS SEAF TROG BOG Supports A Orboros - Grissel
F THON THALAS Supports A Cave of Ordeals - Newa River
Undead: A Everglot HoldF Timberlands - Istar (*Fails*)
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"Sit Long, Talk Much, Laugh Often" -- anon

"Shared Pain is lessened, Shared Joy is increased" --- Spider Robinson

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DC406: Fall 08 Results! (dc406) offdisc Jun 29, 07:47 pm
Keeping it consistent for the 08 season!Mike
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"Sit Long, Talk Much, Laugh Often" -- anon
"Shared Pain is lessened, Shared Joy is increased" --- Spider Robinson




On Fri, Jun 29, 2012 at 6:42 PM, Mike Hoffman <mrh(at)panix.com> wrote:

Hi All,I've got good news and bad news. The bad news, you already now -- the results are late.The good news, though, is that my wife is FINALLY back home! Yeah!  So now your GM can return to being his jovial, fun-loving self.

That doesn't mean you'll get results any more on-time than before. Wink
So, without further ado, here are your Fall 08 Move Results!
Need Retreats:
Gnomes: A Newa River --> Ele, or OTBOgres: A Cyriss --> IMM, Gre, PoD, Moo, Woo, or OTB
No-need for Retreats, we just shot them on sight:Archers: A Fionavar  (*Disbanded*)
Nomads: A Cathal  (*Disbanded*)
Deadline for Fall 08 Retreats is Monday, July 2nd at 5PM.  You've got all weekend to forget about them and risk the deadline.

Fall 08 Move Results----------------------------Archers: A Prydain Supports A Spiral Castle - Strawberry FieldsA Fionavar Hold (*Disbanded*)A Spiral Castle - Strawberry Fields
A Drynwyn - Avalon (*Bounce*)A Pendaran Wood Supports A Sleepy Hollow - CathalF Dragons Teeth Mtns - Kingdom of Hearts
Dwarves: F Mount Nimro - EAST MIRIANIC OCEAN
F Travers Town HoldA Myth Drannor - Port GhaastA Tymwyvenne Supports A Yggdrasil - Cave of OrdealsA Hidden Grotto Supports A Yggdrasil - Cave of OrdealsA Yggdrasil - Cave of Ordeals
A Carpantha - Mount NimroF ALL SAINTS BAY Supports F CHURNING REACH - WEST MIRIANIC OCEANF RUGGED COAST - CHOCOLATE RIVERF RIFT CANYON - RUGGED COASTF RESTLESS WATERS - Land Ho
F GULF OF LUHN - Mordor
Faeries: F Grimheim - AshanA Corona - To-Gai-RuA Palmaris - Dargaard Keep (*Bounce*)A Land of Sweets - Fionavar
A Strawberry Fields - Dragons Teeth Mtns
A Acme Acres - Land of SweetsF CELESTIAL DELTA - Shady Vale (*Fails*)F TILVA STRAIT - NORTH MIRIANIC OCEANF EAST MIRIANIC OCEAN - Gumdrop IsleF CHOCOLATE RIVER - HORNED BAY

Gnomes: A Hundred Acre Wood - Avalon (*Bounce*)A Newa River Hold (*Dislodged*)A Daniloth Supports A Newa River
Hobbits: F Mordor - Yuirwood
A Thirsty Desert - KrikkitA Golgafrincham - NowwhatA Rivendell - Mordor (*Fails*)F The High Way - Rivendell (*Fails*)F SEA OF FALLEN STARS - Lindon

Knights: A GuTanoth Supports A Paras DervalA Paras Derval Supports A GuTanothA Tumnus Supports F GrisselF Grissel HoldA Wing Hove - Grimpen Ward (*Bounce*)
A Sleepy Hollow - CathalF Ice Reach - Arctic Barrens (*Fails*)F Aslan Supports F CRYSTAL LAKE - AnvardF Calormen Supports F GrisselA Shady Vale - Grimpen Ward (*Bounce*)
F CRYSTAL LAKE - AnvardF MIST MARSH - Telmar
Leprechauns: A Skellington Supports A EverglotF Enchanted Isles HoldF Necronomicon - THE MAWF THE MAW - Ansalon
F THUNDERHEAD Supports F Necronomicon - THE MAWF BABEL BEACH Supports F Enchanted Isles
Magicians: A Tarsis Supports A Ergoth - CyrissA Ergoth - Cyriss
F Krynn - HIGH SEAS (*Fails*)F Istar - EAST SEA OF SHADOWS (*Fails*)F WAY THE HECK Supports F Krynn - HIGH SEASF WEST SEA OF SHADOWS Supports F Krynn - HIGH SEASF EAST SEA OF SHADOWS - Dargaard Keep (*Bounce*)

Nomads: A Cathal Supports A Pendaran Wood - Sleepy Hollow (*Disbanded*)F Arctic Barrens - Ice Reach (*Fails*)A River Saeren Supports A Land of Sweets - Fionavar
A Knurremurre Supports A Strawberry Fields - Dragons Teeth Mtns
Ogres: A Magrathea - The WilderlandF Fjord Supports A Magrathea - The WilderlandA Kahvi - Niflheim
F City of Splendors Supports F Valley of Lost Honor - Thirsty DesertA Cyriss Hold (*Dislodged*)F Valley of Lost Honor - Thirsty DesertA Two Towers Supports F GULF OF LUHN - Mordor
F Candlekeep Supports F GULF OF LUHN - MordorA Uhl Belk Supports A EverglotF Allerleirauh Supports F FjordA Anhondon Plain - Valley of Lost HonorF Critter Country - Groves of Academe
F BIKINI BOTTOM Supports F THE MAW - AnsalonF CHURNING REACH - WEST MIRIANIC OCEANF RIVER OF THE DAWN - Waterdeep
Pirates: A The Neverwood - Travers Town (*Fails*)
F Never Never Land Supports F HIGH SEASA Far Far Away - KahviF Endor Supports F RIFT CANYON - RUGGED COASTA Groves of Academe - Slightly GulchA Elephant Graveyard - Loxley
F GRIEF REEF Supports F HIGH SEASF HIGH SEAS Convoys A Far Far Away - KahviF PIRATE SHOALS - Pans Labyrinth
Trolls: A Troldhaugen Supports A Cave of Ordeals - Newa River
A Orboros - Grissel (*Fails*)A Cave of Ordeals - Newa RiverF SUNLESS SEA Supports A Orboros - GrisselF BEAVERSDAM Supports F SUNLESS SEAF TROG BOG Supports A Orboros - Grissel
F THON THALAS Supports A Cave of Ordeals - Newa River
Undead: A Everglot HoldF Timberlands - Istar (*Fails*)
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"Sit Long, Talk Much, Laugh Often" -- anon

"Shared Pain is lessened, Shared Joy is increased" --- Spider Robinson

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