| Forwarding e-mails - pedros (Mar 20, 2011, 6:28 am) |
Hi. I'm playing my first game on the site, and was very surprised to be told that there is a strong antipathy (if no more) to players forwarding messages in a game to third parties.
I've never met this before, and would like to know more about it - how strong the feeling is, and what are the reasons? Is there an existing discussion about the subject somewhere?
Many thanks,
Pete (Pedros\0[Reply] |
| Forwarding e-mails (Community) Godzilla Mar 20, 08:34 am |
There is a wide range of responses to this tactic, and you are correct that some players deplore this tactic -- myself included.
My reasons are thus: like PBM Diplomacy before it, online Diplomacy is an adaptation of ftf Diplomacy. The board game was designed to be played in person. As such, all negotiations are verbal. There is no opportunity to forward a message. Someone can TELL you that Austria is scheming like mad against you, but you have nothing more than their say-so. Ignoring the possibility of faked messages, being able to actually forward another player's email changes the whole dynamic of negotiating, and not for the better, IMO. Some people regard forwarding emails to be the tactic of a weaker player.
Forwarding emails is not without its risks. Some players get extremely upset with this tactic, and will immediately turn against any player caught forwarding their mail. A player caught forwarding email also risks becoming known for this tactic, which will make it far less likely for other players to discuss sensitive topics with them, a real liability in Diplomacy. If you play consistently with the same group of players, it could become fatal to acquire the reputation as someone who will forward emails.
To be fair there are players who do not have a problem with the ethics of forwarding email, although I believe them to be in the minority. Perhaps others can weigh in on this as well. |
| Forwarding e-mails (Community) fencertim Mar 20, 10:31 am |
I personally dislike the tactic. I have ben forwarded several e-mails through various games and on different diplomacy sites. Godzilla is corret, i am very less likely to discuss sensitive information with a person who forwards letters as it stands to reason that my letters are being forwarded as well. In an effort to put at ease the person i am in disscussions with i inform them up from that 'any and all information being discussed here will be held in the highest confidience and your diligience to do the same is appriciated.' This sometimes discourages someone from using this tactic.
As for the effectiveness, with me it has very little positive influence for the forwarder(?). It is too easy to forward a letter and change key words or province names...to fit the desired or intended outcome. |
| Forwarding e-mails (Community) DancingQueen Mar 22, 03:32 pm |
As a long time F2F player, I have never understood the problem that the email community has with forwarding email. I have always taken it just as I would someone telling me what another player is saying. The tangible artifact of the email is so easily edited that it is almost valueless.
Which, IMO, makes it a particularly poor tactic when used against good players, who will recognize it for what it is -- an attempt to gain influence that isn't based on the merit of the speaker, but on the (supposed) bad behavior of someone else. |
| Forwarding e-mails (Community) Godzilla Mar 23, 06:17 am |
| It is certainly true that emails can be heavily edited before forwarding. I've been in the Diplomacy community long enough that I used to play by mail (gasp!), and it is perhaps from that forum that my aversion to mail-passing stems. Because in that format, of course, a letter passed on, in one's own handwriting, was extremely damning. |
| Forwarding e-mails (Community) pedros Mar 23, 06:33 am |
| My query wasn't really about whether it's good or bad play - like most tactics, it seems to me to be bext used sparingly - but the impression I was given was that it was close to illegal on the site. |
| Forwarding e-mails (Community) Godzilla Mar 23, 09:15 am |
pedro, you asked about the strong feelings associated with message-passing, and you got the answer, "It varies". Some players hate it, and some are indifferent to the tactic.
As for it being "close to illegal", that is somewhat like being "kind of pregnant": it's a case of either/or. There are very few forbiddens in Diplomacy -- deception of the GM being pretty much universal -- and in all my games I've never come across one in which message-passing was outlawed. Players can react to the message-forwarding as they choose, but there is no legal recourse within the game for such action. |
| Forwarding e-mails (Community) Blueraider0 Mar 23, 11:03 am |
I think comparing "almost illegal" to "almost pregnant" is a little silly. Nevertheless, some players consider it near heresy. I do it rarely, but I'll do it in particularly dire circumstances. I've even been known to falsify e-mails from "others" to make my point. Anything for the game, you know.
Some players oppose the tactic so much they don't care what the e-mail says, they will immediately go after you for being so disreputable. I had one player call me "insulting to the hobby," which seemed a bit harsh. So there are risks, but that's always true. The tactic, however, is not (and really cannot be) forbidden.
I'll add if people forward me an e-mail from someone else, I generally disapprove. Not because I'm a hypocrite, but because it isn't for something ridiculous enough. It is, for me, a last ditch effort. Forwarding e-mails to prove a 1901 FE alliance seems a little unnecessary, and while I won't insult the player or throw my forces haphazarly against them for revenge, I will doubt their cunning and probably consider them easy meat for the rest of the game. |
| Forwarding e-mails (Community) Godzilla Mar 23, 12:23 pm |
| Silly comparison? Not really. Now the expression "kind of pregnant" is silly, but I didn't make it up. However, nothing wrong with the analogy. One cannot be "kind of pregnant" -- one is or one isn't. In Diplomacy, something cannot be "almost illegal" -- either you can do it without breaking rules, or you cannot do it without breaking rules. For all the strong feelings against message-passing, have never seen a game in which it was illegal. |
| Forwarding e-mails (Community) rodtheworm Mar 24, 05:22 pm |
I see what you mean here. I've done it in the past, and in my early games I thought I was being clever by doctoring or even faking entire emails from other players - this was on some of the USAK/other name stlye judges where you were unlikely to play the same people again and thus gain a reputation.
I stopped forwarding messages when I realised that if I forwarded something to someone, they would more than likely assume I was doing the same with their mails. I think that was in my first game on this site. Since then I've been clean. Clearly you are going to pass on information occasionally, but being trustworthy with information is a much better reputation to have than the opposite. |
| Forwarding e-mails (Community) FlapJack Mar 26, 02:42 am |
My take on forward emails is this: I don't do it but as far as I am concerned when it comes to diplomacy between players all is fair in love and war. I try not deal with players that letter pass but I don't think you can write anyone out of the hobby over it.
The only thing I consider cheating is having to do more with the GM or the results rather than among the players.l |
| Forwarding e-mails (Community) FuzzyLogic Mar 23, 12:13 pm |
We have no community rule on this, not even a "best practices" sort of thing... So as far as any dc game goes, it's perfectly legal.
However, GMs can write their own house rules on the matter. I do know of one GM that does so and prohibits the forwarding of mail.
Like you say here tho, (and like most tactics) it is best used when it's not expected. So building a reputation for such is terrible... but if you have a situation where you can do something creative w a forwarded, quoted, or doctored mail, and you think it will be received well or accomplish your goal, then by all means... |
| Forwarding e-mails (Community) sgttodd Mar 31, 10:02 am |
No GM needs to regulate the use of valid game tactics that do not interfere with the management of the game. Any GM that does should immediately be placed in The Order of the Pansy.
How the hell does a GM enforce that anyway? How does he know the whistle blower isn't lying himself and the whole thing's not a hoax? |
| DC350: Fall 1906 - Rocketship (Mar 19, 2011, 11:19 pm) |
DC350: Fall 1906
We're once again missing German orders, so another NMR is issued. As this is the second consecutive NMR, Germany enters Civil Disorder. In this case, at my discretion, I will not seek a replacement for Tim; Germany will remain in CD for the remainder of the game.
We also this round witness the first elimination. Austria has finally run out of support, and so we must bid adieu to Jason. Jason, you are welcome to send out an end-of-game message to the group.
Both proposals fail. We will continue to have one main major season per week.
Austria:
A Bohemia - Munich (*Dislodged*)
A Venice - Tyrolia (*Dislodged*)
England:
F Irish Sea - Liverpool
France:
F Belgium Supports A Holland
A Burgundy Supports A Bohemia - Munich
F English Channel Convoys A London - Picardy
A Liverpool - Edinburgh
A London - Picardy
A Marseilles Supports A Spain
F Mid-Atlantic Ocean Hold
A Spain Hold
F Yorkshire Supports A Liverpool - Edinburgh
Germany:
A Holland, no move received
Italy:
F Gulf of Lyon - Western Mediterranean
A Kiel Supports A Munich
A Rome - Venice
A Trieste Supports A Rome - Venice
A Vienna Supports A Galicia - Bohemia
F Western Mediterranean - North Africa
Russia:
A Armenia - Ankara
F Black Sea Supports A Armenia - Ankara
A Bulgaria - Constantinople (*Fails*)
F Clyde Supports F Irish Sea - Liverpool
F Edinburgh Supports F Norway - North Sea (*Dislodged*)
A Galicia - Bohemia
F Helgoland Bight Supports F Norway - North Sea
A Munich Supports A Galicia - Bohemia
F Norway - North Sea
A Serbia - Albania
A Tyrolia Supports A Munich (*Cut*)
Turkey:
F Ankara Supports A Constantinople (*Disbanded*)
A Constantinople, no move received
F Smyrna Supports A Constantinople
We have three retreats. However, two of these are Austrian, and Austria will have to disband those units during adjustments. The other retreat has only one option, so I'm putting in these three orders:
Austria:
disband A Bohemia
disband A Venice
Russia:
F Edinburgh - Norwegian Sea
Dirk, let me know if you'd rather disband by 05:00GMT on Monday, March 21, 2011.
Assuming the Russian retreat stands, we will have the following adjustments:
France:
Remove
Italy:
Build
Build
Russia:
Build
Build
These are due by 05:00GMT on Tuesday, March 22, 2011. Spring 1907 is due on 05:00GMT on Sunday, March 27, 2011.
Cheers,
Matthew[Reply] |
| DC350: Fall 1906 (dc350) Rocketship Mar 20, 11:19 pm |
Hey Folks,
24h for Winter, 1906. The Russian retreat stands. I'm just missing build orders from Russia, at this point.
Cheers,
Matthew
On Mar 19, 2011, at 9:19 PM, Rocketship wrote:
DC350: Fall 1906
We're once again missing German orders, so another NMR is issued. As this is the second consecutive NMR, Germany enters Civil Disorder. In this case, at my discretion, I will not seek a replacement for Tim; Germany will remain in CD for the remainder of the game.
We also this round witness the first elimination. Austria has finally run out of support, and so we must bid adieu to Jason. Jason, you are welcome to send out an end-of-game message to the group.
Both proposals fail. We will continue to have one main major season per week.
Austria:
A Bohemia - Munich (*Dislodged*)
A Venice - Tyrolia (*Dislodged*)
England:
F Irish Sea - Liverpool
France:
F Belgium Supports A Holland
A Burgundy Supports A Bohemia - Munich
F English Channel Convoys A London - Picardy
A Liverpool - Edinburgh
A London - Picardy
A Marseilles Supports A Spain
F Mid-Atlantic Ocean Hold
A Spain Hold
F Yorkshire Supports A Liverpool - Edinburgh
Germany:
A Holland, no move received
Italy:
F Gulf of Lyon - Western Mediterranean
A Kiel Supports A Munich
A Rome - Venice
A Trieste Supports A Rome - Venice
A Vienna Supports A Galicia - Bohemia
F Western Mediterranean - North Africa
Russia:
A Armenia - Ankara
F Black Sea Supports A Armenia - Ankara
A Bulgaria - Constantinople (*Fails*)
F Clyde Supports F Irish Sea - Liverpool
F Edinburgh Supports F Norway - North Sea (*Dislodged*)
A Galicia - Bohemia
F Helgoland Bight Supports F Norway - North Sea
A Munich Supports A Galicia - Bohemia
F Norway - North Sea
A Serbia - Albania
A Tyrolia Supports A Munich (*Cut*)
Turkey:
F Ankara Supports A Constantinople (*Disbanded*)
A Constantinople, no move received
F Smyrna Supports A Constantinople
We have three retreats. However, two of these are Austrian, and Austria will have to disband those units during adjustments. The other retreat has only one option, so I'm putting in these three orders:
Austria:
disband A Bohemia
disband A Venice
Russia:
F Edinburgh - Norwegian Sea
Dirk, let me know if you'd rather disband by 05:00GMT on Monday, March 21, 2011.
Assuming the Russian retreat stands, we will have the following adjustments:
France:
Remove
Italy:
Build
Build
Russia:
Build
Build
These are due by 05:00GMT on Tuesday, March 22, 2011. Spring 1907 is due on 05:00GMT on Sunday, March 27, 2011.
Cheers,
Matthew |
| DC349 1st Strike S05 results - Sean2010 (Mar 19, 2011, 9:45 am) |
F05 orders are due 3-25-11 by 11:59 PM.
S05:
Austria:
Army con to ank
Army gal to vie
Army tri Supports Army trl
Army boh Supports Army trl
Army trl Supports Army boh
Fleet gre Hold
Fleet adr Supports Army tri
England:
Fl Mao - Nao
Fl Eng C A Edi -Bre
Fl Nth C A Edi -Bre
A Lon H
A Hol H
Fl Bel S Fl Nth H
A Edi - Bre
Germany:
A MUN S A BER
A BER S A MUN
A KIE S A MUN
A DEN - SWE
Italy:
A Pie NMR
A Ven NMR
F Apu NMR
F Nap NMR
F Ion NMR
F Tun NMR
Russia:
F sev to bla
A mos to sev
A war to pru
A sil supports A war to pru
F aeg to ion
F nor to ska
A stp to nor
A swe supports A stp to nor
Turkey:
F Arm - Ank
Side note, I made a mapping error; hence, the file name S05 results correction. I goofed Turkey's movement, and I had to edit the map.
from Sean[Reply] |
| DC350: Spring 1906 - Rocketship (Mar 19, 2011, 9:29 am) |
Hi folks,
This is your friendly 13.5h reminder for Fall 1906. I'm still missing orders from England, Germany, and Austria. Please be sure to also send in your votes on the two proposals.
Cheers,
Matthew=[Reply] |
| dc360 - Winter 1910 Results - z93blom (Mar 19, 2011, 9:13 am) |
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| DC 338 Fall 2012 Results - derekthefeared2 (Mar 18, 2011, 11:32 pm) |
Here are the fall 2012 results. Sorry for the delay. One retreat due. 3 Builds, 4 if fleet retreat OTB.
Austria
Build 2
Italy 0 (1 if fleet OTB)
England
Build 1
Let's set the deadline for Winter 2012 for this coming monday at 4:00 PM US Eastern time.
Austria:
F Adriatic Sea Convoys A Albania - Apulia
A Albania - Apulia
A Bohemia Supports A Tyrolia - Munich
F Ionian Sea - Naples (*Bounce*)
A Livonia Supports A Prussia
A Moscow Supports A St Petersburg
A Prussia Supports A Silesia - Berlin
A Silesia - Berlin (*Fails*)
A St Petersburg Supports A Livonia
A Trieste Supports A Venice
A Tyrolia - Munich (*Fails*)
A Venice Supports A Albania - Apulia (*Cut*)
A Warsaw Supports A Prussia
England:
F Baltic Sea Supports A Berlin
A Berlin Supports A Burgundy - Munich (*Cut*)
A Brest - Norway
F English Channel Convoys A Brest - Norway
F Gulf of Bothnia Supports A Norway - Finland
A Kiel Supports A Burgundy - Munich
F North Sea Convoys A Brest - Norway
A Norway - Finland
A Ruhr Supports A Burgundy - Munich
F Tunis Supports F Western Mediterranean - Tyrrhenian Sea
F Western Mediterranean - Tyrrhenian Sea
France:
A Burgundy - Munich (*Fails*)
F Gulf of Lyon - Tuscany
A Munich - Tyrolia (*Fails*)
A Piedmont Supports A Munich - Tyrolia
F Spain(nc) - Mid-Atlantic Ocean
Italy:
A Rome - Venice (*Fails*)
F Tyrrhenian Sea - Naples (*Dislodged*)
[Reply] |
| dc354 w04 builds! - ndeily (Mar 18, 2011, 5:56 pm) |
I already am.
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From: Michael Sims <mike(at)fuzzylogicllc.net>
To: alwayshunted(at)hotmail.com; baz.dip(at)gmail.com; welsh_stroud(at)msn.com; Garry Bledsoe <kielmarch(at)hotmail.com>; Jason Koelewyn <githraine(at)yahoo.com>; dan.i.sinensky(at)gmail.com; jdtsoft(at)jdtsoft.com; justin(at)darkenedpath.com; markjsmith60(at)gmail.com; hall.jeff(at)gmail.com; kelly058(at)verizon.net; wealllovekatamari(at)yahoo.com; ndeily(at)yahoo.com; mrh(at)panix.com; Maxatrest(at)yahoo.co.uk; pjh5000(at)hotmail.com; Spinozas(at)gmx.net; tomjnkns.IL(at)gmail.com; michael.alan.walters(at)gmail.com; dc354 <dc354(at)diplomaticcorp.com>
Sent: Fri, March 18, 2011 6:05:25 AM
Subject: RE: dc354 w04 builds!
Hey,
Just thought I'd drop a note... is anyone in this game interested in playing in round 2 of the WB? (who isn't already)... We have room for 2 extra ppl in round 2 due to abandons from round 1.
Let me know! Round 2 starts Monday... Note they're fast games. 2 adjudications per week.
-mike
[Reply] |
| dc358 winter 1910 results - coryfucius (Mar 18, 2011, 5:12 pm) |
All builds are left unused, so the board remains unchanged from the fall.
Spring 1911 orders will be due Monday 3/21 at 3pm Central (US) / 21:00 GMT. Please be sure to cast your vote on the 4-way draw, which has been proposed yet again, along with your orders. Thanks!
Cory
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Winter 1910 results:
England: (NAR)
Build waived
Italy:
Build waived
Turkey: (NAR)
Build waived[Reply] |
| DC 345: W1909 Adjustments - AceRimmer (Mar 18, 2011, 4:00 pm) |
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| DC 345: W1909 Adjustments - AceRimmer (Mar 18, 2011, 3:59 pm) |
Adaria:
Build F Edinburgh
Zonotrichia:
Build F Greece
Build F Smyrna
Build A Serbia
Build A Moscow
Trigspor:
Remove F Gulf of Bothnia[Reply] |
| DC 345: W1909 Adjustments (dc345) AceRimmer Mar 18, 04:00 pm |
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| DC 345: W1909 Adjustments (dc345) Blueraider0 Mar 21, 09:54 pm |
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| dc340 DCI 2010 - F09 Results: Sicilian Elimination - garry.bledsoe (Mar 18, 2011, 3:52 pm) |
We Bid Goodbye To Sicily And Mr. Sims
Byzantium Really Wants Odessa (?) But Runs Into A Traffic Jam As Most Units Converge
Burgundy Feeling The Pinch?
Ukraine Now Down To One
Can He Pull A Spain? Okay, Admittedly Calling It "Pulling A Spain" Is Premature Since Spain Isn't Exactly Out of the Woods
All,
Sorry for the short delay. I was waiting for one set up to the deadline (or I would have had the thing already done and waiting to hit send if no late orders came in). As it turned out, by the time I got that I was already on a plane and I got home late. Thus the lack of adjudication until today.
That said, we had another interesting season! It is with sorrow that we bid farewell to our second casualty - Mike Sims as Sicily. Moment of silence...
And still other interesting things happen - Ukraine loses another center, Burgundy's line becomes thinner, and - ho hum - Eire continues to grow.
We had NO retreats so let's move to Winter. Adjustments are as follows:
Eire - build 2
Hungary - build 1
Israel - build 1
Ukraine - remove 1
Let's get those by Monday the 21st at 6pm CDT.
Garry
Burgundy:
A Bavaria Supports A Silesia - Bohemia (*Cut*)
A Livonia - Warsaw
A Podolia - Galicia
A Saxony Supports A Bavaria
A Silesia - Bohemia (*Disbanded*)
A Swabia - Schwyz (*Fails*)
Sicily:
F Palma Sea Supports A Algeria - Valencia
Eire:
F Anglican Sea Convoys A Yorkshire - Brussels
F Barents Sea - Siberia (*Bounce*)
F Bornholm Sea - Gdansk
F Gibraltar - Valencia
F Hague - Helgoland Bight
A Karelia - Volga (*Fails*)
A Norromark - Finland
F North Sea - Denmark
F Santander Supports F South Atlantic Ocean
F South Atlantic Ocean Supports F Santander
A Yorkshire - Brussels
Hungary:
F Adriatic Sea Hold
A Austria Supports A Bohemia
A Bohemia Supports A Galicia - Silesia
A Budapest - Croatia
A Galicia - Silesia
F Ligurian Sea - Languedoc
A Schwyz Supports F Ligurian Sea - Languedoc (*Cut*)
A Tyrol - Bavaria (*Fails*)
A Venezia - Piedmont
A Warsaw - Livonia (*Disbanded*)
Israel:
A Algeria - Valencia (*Fails*)
A Jerusalem Hold
A Kazakhstan - Siberia (*Bounce*)
F Morroco - Ifni Sea
A Muscovy Supports A Novgorod (*Ordered to Move*)
F Pylos Sea Hold
F Tyrrhenian Sea - Naples
F Utica Sea Supports F Western Mediterranean
A Volga Supports A Muscovy (*Cut*)
F Western Mediterranean Convoys A Algeria - Valencia
Spain:
A Catalonia Supports F Gibraltar - Valencia
A Estremadura Supports F Gibraltar - Valencia
A Languedoc - Dijon
Ukraine:
A Masuria Supports A Livonia - Warsaw
A Novgorod - Muscovy (*Fails*)
Byzantium:
F Armenia - Odessa (*Fails*)
F Bulgaria - Odessa (*Fails*)
A Circassia - Odessa (*Fails*)
A Don Supports A Muscovy
F East Black Sea - Odessa (*Fails*)
A Kiev - Odessa (*Bounce*)
A Rumania - Podolia
A Smyrna - Odessa (*Fails*)
F West Black Sea - Odessa (*Bounce*)[Reply] |
| dc340 DCI 2010 - F09 Results: Sicilian Elimination (DC Invitational) FuzzyLogic Mar 23, 04:29 pm |
Well folks, it's been fun. The level of intensity in this game was great... unfortunately I seem to have reached the end of my ride. Sometimes you have those games where you just bet on the wrong allies, and this was certainly one of those games. A lot hinged on Joe... he said early on that he didn't think A/I could coexist, and that challenged me to want to figure out ways to make an otherwise improbable alliance - work. What I should have read tho from his words tho was not "I don't think the alliance will work"... rather... "I intend to stab you, over and over and over again, promise again to work w you, and stab yet more." But something got lost in the translation. Maybe it was the Irish accent.
The game actually started to break down earlier tho... when my secret allies of John and Dirk who were collectively running the board at one time stopped looking at the team and gave in to the temptation of greed (and per Dirk, perhaps some inexperience). It's good to have allies, but always have to remember even your allies are still your enemy, as they will always look to themselves first. This was no exception. Dirk was quick to seal my fate by promising to help me survive, while moving units blatantly in my direction for the "so-obviously-coming-I-can't-believe-he's-telling-me-he's-not-going-to-take-it" stab. He took it, and I was out. I had no choice but to fall back, maybe survive in Spain or Africa, but Dirk made that impossible by not helping me into Madrid or keeping Joe out of Morocco. I think we'll look back on this as a game-altering move, as Eire got nothing out of my death. The Italian spoils went to Joe and Adam, and now the pass at Gibraltar is locked up. Had Dirk entered the Med and established position, there might have been solo possibilities for him.
Kevin you never kept good on your promise to return the favor for me working so hard to keep you in the game when you were near eliminated in 01!
Not to blame my loss on anyone else, I made some severe mistakes in this game, most notably my own fatal flaw reared its head again, in that I like grand alliances. I tend to be an alliancey player, and such has little place in this game especially against veterans. Then mid-game I was severely pulled away from the game, tho the Sicilian decline had begun by this point. I think it began when John flip-flopped twice in a row regarding whose side he was on in the south - stabbing Byz, pulling off, and stabbing him again. That double stab permanently broke any possibility of a Sic-Ukr-Byz team, and pulled Kevin's focus off the south - leaving Joe free to focus 100% on me.
It has honestly been a long time since I played a game against some serious competition. I've gotten so involved in running things at dc that I really stopped playing, and I think my Dip was very rusty for this game. You all deserved better from me, which I'll have to provide sometime in the future...
I look forward to seeing where it goes from here... it looks like y'all have quite a game ahead of you still with many turns yet to come...
-mike
From: Garry Bledsoe [mailto:kielmarch(at)hotmail.com]
Sent: Fri 3/18/2011 3:52 PM
Subject: dc340 DCI 2010 - F09 Results: Sicilian Elimination
We Bid Goodbye To Sicily And Mr. Sims
Byzantium Really Wants Odessa (?) But Runs Into A Traffic Jam As Most Units Converge
Burgundy Feeling The Pinch?
Ukraine Now Down To One
Can He Pull A Spain? Okay, Admittedly Calling It "Pulling A Spain" Is Premature Since Spain Isn't Exactly Out of the Woods
All,
Sorry for the short delay. I was waiting for one set up to the deadline (or I would have had the thing already done and waiting to hit send if no late orders came in). As it turned out, by the time I got that I was already on a plane and I got home late. Thus the lack of adjudication until today.
That said, we had another interesting season! It is with sorrow that we bid farewell to our second casualty - Mike Sims as Sicily. Moment of silence...
And still other interesting things happen - Ukraine loses another center, Burgundy's line becomes thinner, and - ho hum - Eire continues to grow.
We had NO retreats so let's move to Winter. Adjustments are as follows:
Eire - build 2
Hungary - build 1
Israel - build 1
Ukraine - remove 1
Let's get those by Monday the 21st at 6pm CDT.
Garry
Burgundy:
A Bavaria Supports A Silesia - Bohemia (*Cut*)
A Livonia - Warsaw
A Podolia - Galicia
A Saxony Supports A Bavaria
A Silesia - Bohemia (*Disbanded*)
A Swabia - Schwyz (*Fails*)
Sicily:
F Palma Sea Supports A Algeria - Valencia
Eire:
F Anglican Sea Convoys A Yorkshire - Brussels
F Barents Sea - Siberia (*Bounce*)
F Bornholm Sea - Gdansk
F Gibraltar - Valencia
F Hague - Helgoland Bight
A Karelia - Volga (*Fails*)
A Norromark - Finland
F North Sea - Denmark
F Santander Supports F South Atlantic Ocean
F South Atlantic Ocean Supports F Santander
A Yorkshire - Brussels
Hungary:
F Adriatic Sea Hold
A Austria Supports A Bohemia
A Bohemia Supports A Galicia - Silesia
A Budapest - Croatia
A Galicia - Silesia
F Ligurian Sea - Languedoc
A Schwyz Supports F Ligurian Sea - Languedoc (*Cut*)
A Tyrol - Bavaria (*Fails*)
A Venezia - Piedmont
A Warsaw - Livonia (*Disbanded*)
Israel:
A Algeria - Valencia (*Fails*)
A Jerusalem Hold
A Kazakhstan - Siberia (*Bounce*)
F Morroco - Ifni Sea
A Muscovy Supports A Novgorod (*Ordered to Move*)
F Pylos Sea Hold
F Tyrrhenian Sea - Naples
F Utica Sea Supports F Western Mediterranean
A Volga Supports A Muscovy (*Cut*)
F Western Mediterranean Convoys A Algeria - Valencia
Spain:
A Catalonia Supports F Gibraltar - Valencia
A Estremadura Supports F Gibraltar - Valencia
A Languedoc - Dijon
Ukraine:
A Masuria Supports A Livonia - Warsaw
A Novgorod - Muscovy (*Fails*)
Byzantium:
F Armenia - Odessa (*Fails*)
F Bulgaria - Odessa (*Fails*)
A Circassia - Odessa (*Fails*)
A Don Supports A Muscovy
F East Black Sea - Odessa (*Fails*)
A Kiev - Odessa (*Bounce*)
A Rumania - Podolia
A Smyrna - Odessa (*Fails*)
F West Black Sea - Odessa (*Bounce*) |
| dc340 DCI 2010 - F09 Results: Sicilian Elimination (DC Invitational) dknemeyer Mar 23, 04:55 pm |
Hi Mike,
Thanks for the lengthy post-game report.
To say for the 1,000th time to you, I was moving intending to work with and support you until you *stopped communicating*. I know you (angrily) told me after the fact you had RL issues getting in the way but you are conflating the result and my intent.
Dirk
On Mar 23, 2011, at 5:29 PM, Michael Sims wrote:
Well folks, it's been fun. The level of intensity in this game was great... unfortunately I seem to have reached the end of my ride. Sometimes you have those games where you just bet on the wrong allies, and this was certainly one of those games. A lot hinged on Joe... he said early on that he didn't think A/I could coexist, and that challenged me to want to figure out ways to make an otherwise improbable alliance - work. What I should have read tho from his words tho was not "I don't think the alliance will work"... rather... "I intend to stab you, over and over and over again, promise again to work w you, and stab yet more." But something got lost in the translation. Maybe it was the Irish accent.
The game actually started to break down earlier tho... when my secret allies of John and Dirk who were collectively running the board at one time stopped looking at the team and gave in to the temptation of greed (and per Dirk, perhaps some inexperience). It's good to have allies, but always have to remember even your allies are still your enemy, as they will always look to themselves first. This was no exception. Dirk was quick to seal my fate by promising to help me survive, while moving units blatantly in my direction for the "so-obviously-coming-I-can't-believe-he's-telling-me-he's-not-going-to-take-it" stab. He took it, and I was out. I had no choice but to fall back, maybe survive in Spain or Africa, but Dirk made that impossible by not helping me into Madrid or keeping Joe out of Morocco. I think we'll look back on this as a game-altering move, as Eire got nothing out of my death. The Italian spoils went to Joe and Adam, and now the pass at Gibraltar is locked up. Had Dirk entered the Med and established position, there might have been solo possibilities for him.
Kevin you never kept good on your promise to return the favor for me working so hard to keep you in the game when you were near eliminated in 01!
Not to blame my loss on anyone else, I made some severe mistakes in this game, most notably my own fatal flaw reared its head again, in that I like grand alliances. I tend to be an alliancey player, and such has little place in this game especially against veterans. Then mid-game I was severely pulled away from the game, tho the Sicilian decline had begun by this point. I think it began when John flip-flopped twice in a row regarding whose side he was on in the south - stabbing Byz, pulling off, and stabbing him again. That double stab permanently broke any possibility of a Sic-Ukr-Byz team, and pulled Kevin's focus off the south - leaving Joe free to focus 100% on me.
It has honestly been a long time since I played a game against some serious competition. I've gotten so involved in running things at dc that I really stopped playing, and I think my Dip was very rusty for this game. You all deserved better from me, which I'll have to provide sometime in the future...
I look forward to seeing where it goes from here... it looks like y'all have quite a game ahead of you still with many turns yet to come...
-mike
From: Garry Bledsoe [mailto:kielmarch(at)hotmail.com]
Sent: Fri 3/18/2011 3:52 PM
Subject: dc340 DCI 2010 - F09 Results: Sicilian Elimination
We Bid Goodbye To Sicily And Mr. Sims
Byzantium Really Wants Odessa (?) But Runs Into A Traffic Jam As Most Units Converge
Burgundy Feeling The Pinch?
Ukraine Now Down To One
Can He Pull A Spain? Okay, Admittedly Calling It "Pulling A Spain" Is Premature Since Spain Isn't Exactly Out of the Woods
All,
Sorry for the short delay. I was waiting for one set up to the deadline (or I would have had the thing already done and waiting to hit send if no late orders came in). As it turned out, by the time I got that I was already on a plane and I got home late. Thus the lack of adjudication until today.
That said, we had another interesting season! It is with sorrow that we bid farewell to our second casualty - Mike Sims as Sicily. Moment of silence...
And still other interesting things happen - Ukraine loses another center, Burgundy's line becomes thinner, and - ho hum - Eire continues to grow.
We had NO retreats so let's move to Winter. Adjustments are as follows:
Eire - build 2
Hungary - build 1
Israel - build 1
Ukraine - remove 1
Let's get those by Monday the 21st at 6pm CDT.
Garry
Burgundy:
A Bavaria Supports A Silesia - Bohemia (*Cut*)
A Livonia - Warsaw
A Podolia - Galicia
A Saxony Supports A Bavaria
A Silesia - Bohemia (*Disbanded*)
A Swabia - Schwyz (*Fails*)
Sicily:
F Palma Sea Supports A Algeria - Valencia
Eire:
F Anglican Sea Convoys A Yorkshire - Brussels
F Barents Sea - Siberia (*Bounce*)
F Bornholm Sea - Gdansk
F Gibraltar - Valencia
F Hague - Helgoland Bight
A Karelia - Volga (*Fails*)
A Norromark - Finland
F North Sea - Denmark
F Santander Supports F South Atlantic Ocean
F South Atlantic Ocean Supports F Santander
A Yorkshire - Brussels
Hungary:
F Adriatic Sea Hold
A Austria Supports A Bohemia
A Bohemia Supports A Galicia - Silesia
A Budapest - Croatia
A Galicia - Silesia
F Ligurian Sea - Languedoc
A Schwyz Supports F Ligurian Sea - Languedoc (*Cut*)
A Tyrol - Bavaria (*Fails*)
A Venezia - Piedmont
A Warsaw - Livonia (*Disbanded*)
Israel:
A Algeria - Valencia (*Fails*)
A Jerusalem Hold
A Kazakhstan - Siberia (*Bounce*)
F Morroco - Ifni Sea
A Muscovy Supports A Novgorod (*Ordered to Move*)
F Pylos Sea Hold
F Tyrrhenian Sea - Naples
F Utica Sea Supports F Western Mediterranean
A Volga Supports A Muscovy (*Cut*)
F Western Mediterranean Convoys A Algeria - Valencia
Spain:
A Catalonia Supports F Gibraltar - Valencia
A Estremadura Supports F Gibraltar - Valencia
A Languedoc - Dijon
Ukraine:
A Masuria Supports A Livonia - Warsaw
A Novgorod - Muscovy (*Fails*)
Byzantium:
F Armenia - Odessa (*Fails*)
F Bulgaria - Odessa (*Fails*)
A Circassia - Odessa (*Fails*)
A Don Supports A Muscovy
F East Black Sea - Odessa (*Fails*)
A Kiev - Odessa (*Bounce*)
A Rumania - Podolia
A Smyrna - Odessa (*Fails*)
F West Black Sea - Odessa (*Bounce*) |
| dc360 - Winter 1910 Results - z93blom (Mar 18, 2011, 2:44 pm) |
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| dc360 - Winter 1910 Results (Winter Blitz) z93blom Mar 19, 09:13 am |
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| DC 345: Small Map Correction - AceRimmer (Mar 18, 2011, 1:56 pm) |
There should be an army in StP, not in Fin. Corrected map attached.
Adam
(Seems that I did the Fall adjudication correctly, only to revert for the autumnal retreats).[Reply] |
| DC 359 Winter 10 Adjucation - untitled36 (Mar 18, 2011, 11:29 am) |
Hey all,
Sorry again for the late adjucation. It's a simple one. Draw fails, and:
Italy: Build A Rome
Turkey: Build A Smyrna
See ya Monday at 8:00 AM CST (13:00 GMT)
John[Reply] |
| dc354 w04 builds! - FuzzyLogic (Mar 18, 2011, 8:05 am) |
Hey,
Just thought I'd drop a note... is anyone in this game interested in playing in round 2 of the WB? (who isn't already)... We have room for 2 extra ppl in round 2 due to abandons from round 1.
Let me know! Round 2 starts Monday... Note they're fast games. 2 adjudications per week.
-mike
[Reply] |
| DC 338 Fall 2012 Will Send tonight - derekthefeared2 (Mar 18, 2011, 7:01 am) |
| Ended up not having time to send results last night. I will send them out tonight, sorry for the delay. [Reply] |
| DC368 Spring 1904 - Blueraider0 (Mar 18, 2011, 3:13 am) |
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| DC368 Spring 1904 - stendaswargames (Mar 18, 2011, 2:41 am) |
I am updating the website so that you can contact Nick and introduce yourselves!
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Subject: RE: DC368 Spring 1904
We have a new Turkey, welcome Nick!
Italian A Piedmont can retreat to Venice or OTB.
Austrian A Serbia can retreat to Albania or OTB.
Retreats due Tuesday 22 March 24:00 GMT (I am away for a few days so can’t do sooner)
Fall 1904 due Tuesday 29 march 24:00 GMT, which should give enough time for general diploming.
Austria:
A Serbia Hold (*Dislodged*)
England:
A Edinburgh - Norway
A Finland - St Petersburg
F Helgoland Bight - Denmark
A Kiel Supports A Ruhr - Munich
A London Hold
F North Sea Convoys A Edinburgh - Norway
F St Petersburg(nc) - Barents Sea
A Sweden Supports F Helgoland Bight - Denmark
France:
F Brest - Mid-Atlantic Ocean
F Gulf of Lyon Supports A Marseilles - Piedmont
F Holland Hold
A Marseilles - Piedmont
A Munich - Tyrolia (*Bounce*)
A Paris - Burgundy
F Rome - Tuscany
A Ruhr - Munich (*Fails*)
Germany:
A Bohemia - Galicia
Italy:
F Naples Supports F Tyrrhenian Sea - Rome
A Piedmont - Tyrolia (*Dislodged*)
A Trieste - Serbia
F Tunis - Ionian Sea (*Fails*)
F Tyrrhenian Sea - Rome
Russia:
F Baltic Sea - Gulf of Bothnia
A Budapest Supports A Trieste - Serbia
A Galicia - Rumania
A Livonia - Moscow
F Rumania - Black Sea
Turkey:
F Aegean Sea Hold
A Bulgaria Hold
F Constantinople Hold
A Greece Hold
F Ionian Sea Hold
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| DC368 Spring 1904 - stendaswargames (Mar 18, 2011, 2:35 am) |
We have a new Turkey, welcome Nick!
Italian A Piedmont can retreat to Venice or OTB.
Austrian A Serbia can retreat to Albania or OTB.
Retreats due Tuesday 22 March 24:00 GMT (I am away for a few days so can’t do sooner)
Fall 1904 due Tuesday 29 march 24:00 GMT, which should give enough time for general diploming.
Austria:
A Serbia Hold (*Dislodged*)
England:
A Edinburgh - Norway
A Finland - St Petersburg
F Helgoland Bight - Denmark
A Kiel Supports A Ruhr - Munich
A London Hold
F North Sea Convoys A Edinburgh - Norway
F St Petersburg(nc) - Barents Sea
A Sweden Supports F Helgoland Bight - Denmark
France:
F Brest - Mid-Atlantic Ocean
F Gulf of Lyon Supports A Marseilles - Piedmont
F Holland Hold
A Marseilles - Piedmont
A Munich - Tyrolia (*Bounce*)
A Paris - Burgundy
F Rome - Tuscany
A Ruhr - Munich (*Fails*)
Germany:
A Bohemia - Galicia
Italy:
F Naples Supports F Tyrrhenian Sea - Rome
A Piedmont - Tyrolia (*Dislodged*)
A Trieste - Serbia
F Tunis - Ionian Sea (*Fails*)
F Tyrrhenian Sea - Rome
Russia:
F Baltic Sea - Gulf of Bothnia
A Budapest Supports A Trieste - Serbia
A Galicia - Rumania
A Livonia - Moscow
F Rumania - Black Sea
Turkey:
F Aegean Sea Hold
A Bulgaria Hold
F Constantinople Hold
A Greece Hold
F Ionian Sea Hold
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| DC368 Needs a new Turkey! - DrSwordopolis (Mar 18, 2011, 2:21 am) |
I'm in.
Time to turn this ship around, baby![Reply] |
| DC368 Spring 1904 - stendaswargames (Mar 18, 2011, 1:11 am) |
The game is on hold while we wait for a replacement, but if you want to send in your retreats please do so so I can adjudicate those immediately. Retreats are
non-negotiation phases, so shouldn’t require the new player to process.
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Subject: RE: DC368 Spring 1904
Dave has had to drop out of the game, so we need a replacement Turkey!
Thanks for playing, Dave!
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Subject: RE: DC368 Spring 1904
Sorry! Austria and England failed to copy! Here they are!
Austria:
A Serbia Hold (*Dislodged*)
England:
A Edinburgh - Norway
A Finland - St Petersburg
F Helgoland Bight - Denmark
A Kiel Supports A Ruhr - Munich
A London Hold
F North Sea Convoys A Edinburgh - Norway
F St Petersburg(nc) - Barents Sea
A Sweden Supports F Helgoland Bight - Denmark
France:
F Brest - Mid-Atlantic Ocean
F Gulf of Lyon Supports A Marseilles - Piedmont
F Holland Hold
A Marseilles - Piedmont
A Munich - Tyrolia (*Bounce*)
A Paris - Burgundy
F Rome - Tuscany
A Ruhr - Munich (*Fails*)
Germany:
A Bohemia - Galicia
Italy:
F Naples Supports F Tyrrhenian Sea - Rome
A Piedmont - Tyrolia (*Dislodged*)
A Trieste - Serbia
F Tunis - Ionian Sea (*Fails*)
F Tyrrhenian Sea - Rome
Russia:
F Baltic Sea - Gulf of Bothnia
A Budapest Supports A Trieste - Serbia
A Galicia - Rumania
A Livonia - Moscow
F Rumania - Black Sea
Turkey:
F Aegean Sea Hold
A Bulgaria Hold
F Constantinople Hold
A Greece Hold
F Ionian Sea Hold
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Subject: RE: DC368 Spring 1904
Happy St Patrick’s Day!
Turkey and Austria have NMRed
Italian A Piedmont can retreat to Venice or OTB.
Austrian A Serbia can retreat to Albania or OTB.
Retreats due Thusrday 17 march 24:00 GMT or sooner if marked final!
France:
F Brest - Mid-Atlantic Ocean
F Gulf of Lyon Supports A Marseilles - Piedmont
F Holland Hold
A Marseilles - Piedmont
A Munich - Tyrolia (*Bounce*)
A Paris - Burgundy
F Rome - Tuscany
A Ruhr - Munich (*Fails*)
Germany:
A Bohemia - Galicia
Italy:
F Naples Supports F Tyrrhenian Sea - Rome
A Piedmont - Tyrolia (*Dislodged*)
A Trieste - Serbia
F Tunis - Ionian Sea (*Fails*)
F Tyrrhenian Sea - Rome
Russia:
F Baltic Sea - Gulf of Bothnia
A Budapest Supports A Trieste - Serbia
A Galicia - Rumania
A Livonia - Moscow
F Rumania - Black Sea
Turkey:
F Aegean Sea Hold
A Bulgaria Hold
F Constantinople Hold
A Greece Hold
F Ionian Sea Hold
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Subject: RE: DC368 Autumn 1903
A hellish day. I will adjudicate tonight if I can. Apologies for the delay!
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Subject: RE: DC368 Autumn 1903
Spring 1904 due Tuesday 15 March 24:00 GMT
If I have not receipted your orders I have not received them
Dorian
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| DC368 Needs a new Turkey! - stendaswargames (Mar 18, 2011, 1:06 am) |
| Our Turkish player has had to go away on business, so we need a replacement for a very playable 5 dot position (Spring 1904). [Reply] |
| DC368 Needs a new Turkey! (Light Brigade) DrSwordopolis Mar 18, 02:21 am |
I'm in.
Time to turn this ship around, baby! |
| DC368 Spring 1904 - stendaswargames (Mar 18, 2011, 1:02 am) |
Dave has had to drop out of the game, so we need a replacement Turkey!
Thanks for playing, Dave!
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Subject: RE: DC368 Spring 1904
Sorry! Austria and England failed to copy! Here they are!
Austria:
A Serbia Hold (*Dislodged*)
England:
A Edinburgh - Norway
A Finland - St Petersburg
F Helgoland Bight - Denmark
A Kiel Supports A Ruhr - Munich
A London Hold
F North Sea Convoys A Edinburgh - Norway
F St Petersburg(nc) - Barents Sea
A Sweden Supports F Helgoland Bight - Denmark
France:
F Brest - Mid-Atlantic Ocean
F Gulf of Lyon Supports A Marseilles - Piedmont
F Holland Hold
A Marseilles - Piedmont
A Munich - Tyrolia (*Bounce*)
A Paris - Burgundy
F Rome - Tuscany
A Ruhr - Munich (*Fails*)
Germany:
A Bohemia - Galicia
Italy:
F Naples Supports F Tyrrhenian Sea - Rome
A Piedmont - Tyrolia (*Dislodged*)
A Trieste - Serbia
F Tunis - Ionian Sea (*Fails*)
F Tyrrhenian Sea - Rome
Russia:
F Baltic Sea - Gulf of Bothnia
A Budapest Supports A Trieste - Serbia
A Galicia - Rumania
A Livonia - Moscow
F Rumania - Black Sea
Turkey:
F Aegean Sea Hold
A Bulgaria Hold
F Constantinople Hold
A Greece Hold
F Ionian Sea Hold
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Subject: RE: DC368 Spring 1904
Happy St Patrick’s Day!
Turkey and Austria have NMRed
Italian A Piedmont can retreat to Venice or OTB.
Austrian A Serbia can retreat to Albania or OTB.
Retreats due Thusrday 17 march 24:00 GMT or sooner if marked final!
France:
F Brest - Mid-Atlantic Ocean
F Gulf of Lyon Supports A Marseilles - Piedmont
F Holland Hold
A Marseilles - Piedmont
A Munich - Tyrolia (*Bounce*)
A Paris - Burgundy
F Rome - Tuscany
A Ruhr - Munich (*Fails*)
Germany:
A Bohemia - Galicia
Italy:
F Naples Supports F Tyrrhenian Sea - Rome
A Piedmont - Tyrolia (*Dislodged*)
A Trieste - Serbia
F Tunis - Ionian Sea (*Fails*)
F Tyrrhenian Sea - Rome
Russia:
F Baltic Sea - Gulf of Bothnia
A Budapest Supports A Trieste - Serbia
A Galicia - Rumania
A Livonia - Moscow
F Rumania - Black Sea
Turkey:
F Aegean Sea Hold
A Bulgaria Hold
F Constantinople Hold
A Greece Hold
F Ionian Sea Hold
Dorian Love
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Subject: RE: DC368 Autumn 1903
A hellish day. I will adjudicate tonight if I can. Apologies for the delay!
Dorian Love
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Subject: RE: DC368 Autumn 1903
Spring 1904 due Tuesday 15 March 24:00 GMT
If I have not receipted your orders I have not received them
Dorian
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| dc371: Wi02 Results! - dknemeyer (Mar 17, 2011, 4:50 pm) |
Diplomats,
The vote for a Roman Solo fails. Prelims due tomorrow; happy hunting!
***
PLAYERS
Carthage - alhabashi / Jim Tapp / namaanbathing(at)yahoo.com
Egypt - ConradW / Charles Welsh / welsh_stroud(at)msn.com
Greece - fencertim / Tim Crosby / tim_crosby(at)hotmail.com
Persia - pedros / Pete Dale / pete(at)atlantichouse.org.uk
Rome - DrSwordopolis / Nick Powell / nick.s.powell(at)gmail.com
***
HEADLINES
Egyptians invest in naval growth
More Immortals raised for Persian war effort
Romans mindful of navy, but slow down their production infrastructure
***
Orders:
Rome:
Build F Roma
Build F Neapolis
Build waived
Persia:
Build A Antioch
Egypt:
Build F Alexandria
***
Ownership of supply centers
Carthage: Carthage, Cirta, Leptis, Numidia, Saguntum, Thapsus
Egypt: Alexandria, Cyprus, Cyrene, Memphis, Petra, Thebes
Greece: Athens, Byzantium, Crete, Macedonia, Miletus, Sparta
Persia: Antioch, Chersonesus, Damascus, Jerusalem, Sidon, Sinope, Tyre
Rome: Baleares, Dalmatia, Massilia, Neapolis, Ravenna, Roma, Sardinia, Sicilia, Vindonona
Carthage: 6 Supply centers, 6 Units: Build 0.
Egypt: 6 Supply centers, 6 Units: Build 0.
Greece: 6 Supply centers, 6 Units: Build 0.
Persia: 7 Supply centers, 7 Units: Build 0.
Rome: 9 Supply centers, 8 Units: Build 1.
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Spring 03 Orders, Tuesday March 22
Summer 03 Retreats, Thursday March 24
Fall 03 Prelims, Friday March 25
Fall 03 Orders, Tuesday April 5
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| dc358 fall 1910 results! - coryfucius (Mar 17, 2011, 4:10 pm) |
Once again, the 4-way draw fails...
Not much action this time, as Germany and Italy battle to a standstill in France. Just in (real) time for St. Patrick's Day, the German fleet from NAO receives support from Italy's fleet in MAO, thus it sails to the Irish Sea instead of self-bouncing with the fleet in the English Channel. The only other unit to move is an Austrian army to Warsaw.
Since there are no retreats, we go directly to the Winter 1910 adjustment phase. Although no centers changed hands this year, there are banked builds available:
England: build 1 (even though he was never here, he's not gone yet...)
Italy: build 1
Turkey: build 1
Winter 1910 adjustment orders are due tomorrow, Friday 3/18 at 3pm Central (US) / 21:00 GMT. [Apologies again if that GMT adjustment is off by an hour.] Thanks!
Cory
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Fall 1910 results:
Austria:
A Bohemia - Vienna (*Bounce*)
A Budapest - Vienna (*Bounce*)
A Galicia - Warsaw
A Moscow Supports A St Petersburg
A St Petersburg Supports A Moscow
Germany:
A Belgium Supports A Burgundy
F Brest Supports A Paris - Gascony
A Burgundy Supports A Paris - Gascony (*Cut*)
F English Channel - Irish Sea (*Fails*)
A Finland Hold
A Kiel Supports A Ruhr (*Cut*)
F North Atlantic Ocean - Irish Sea
A Norway Hold
A Paris - Gascony (*Fails*)
A Ruhr Supports A Kiel
Italy:
A Gascony Supports A Marseilles - Burgundy (*Cut*)
F Gulf of Lyon Supports A Marseilles (*Ordered to Move*)
A Marseilles - Burgundy (*Fails*)
F Mid-Atlantic Ocean Supports F North Atlantic Ocean - Irish Sea
A Munich - Kiel (*Fails*)
F Spain(nc) Supports A Gascony
A Tyrolia - Munich (*Fails*)
F Western Mediterranean Supports F Mid-Atlantic Ocean
Turkey:
A Berlin Supports A Munich - Kiel
F Black Sea Supports A Sevastopol - Rumania (*Fails*)
A Greece - Serbia (*Bounce*)
F North Africa Supports F Mid-Atlantic Ocean
F Portugal Supports F Mid-Atlantic Ocean
A Rumania - Serbia (*Bounce*)
A Sevastopol - Rumania (*Fails*)
A Silesia Supports A Tyrolia - Munich[Reply] |
