| DC-322 Autumn 830 - Kenshi777 (Aug 17, 2010, 10:02 am) |
Mike's comments are the most encouraging I have heard to date - very exciting to hear that from the Scots' perspective, the C/G alliance can work. But I have yet to hear a Gaelic player say so...still another playtest is already forming, so I think I'll keep taking notes and keep observing.
B.
On Mon, Aug 16, 2010 at 9:15 PM, Mike Morris <mikemorris101(at)yahoo.com> wrote:
Scot EOG
I started the game intending to expand south down the Island. With that in mind, I wanted
to secure my flanks, and did succeed in putting together agreements with the Norse and the
Gaels. My plan was to take three centers or so on the way south, and then decide whether to
stab the Norse or the Gaels.
My decision was made fairly early on. The Norse made every move they agreed to make,
and let me take Zetland. OTOH, the Scots did not move as discussed, altho they didn't make
hostile moves. But it seemed to me that Scott was hedging his bets and was ready to side with
the Bretons or the Anglos if it proved at all advantageous. I figured that BD would put up a very
tough fight and slow me down considerably if I pressed on him, so I turned on Scott.
It all worked very well after that. I think I may have been able to win, but Chris probably had
as good a shot as I did, so rather than draw the game out I decided to go for the DIAS.
Even tho there's been a lot of discussion about changing the map, etc, I think it is balanced
pretty well the way it is. I would suggest a few more play tests with the current map before
putting thru any major changes. I actually did envision a long term alliance with the Gaels, in
which we split up the Island, the Gaels moved onto the continent and pushed east, while I
moved into Scandanavia in the north. I think this is certainly a viable strategy for a long term
Scot/Gael alliance. This could also have worked with an alliance with either the Bretons or
the Anglos, taking out the Gaels and then moving east. I imagine I am in the minority, but I
do like the map the way it is.
- Mike
the
From: The White Wolf <cloudhurler77(at)yahoo.com>
To: Scott Troemel <brn2dip(at)yahoo.com>; Andrew Jameson <cloudhurler77(at)yahoo.com>; Ben Hester <screwtape777(at)gmail.com>; Christopher Martin <dance.scholar(at)gmail.com>; Darren McAdam-OConnell <dmcaoc(at)gmail.com>; DC322 Forum <dc322(at)diplomaticcorp.com>; Frank Bielschowsky <dipcorp.player(at)gmail.com>; Mike Morris <mikemorris101(at)yahoo.com>; Steve Emmert <steve.emmert(at)cox.net>
Sent: Fri, August 13, 2010 2:08:29 PM
Subject: DC-322 Autumn 830
Guys,
I hope that nobody minds me putting this out an hour early. I figure we'd all be better off without the tense waiting game. The DIAS has been unanimously voted for, so this game is over. I'm sure I speak for Ben when I ask you all to share your points of view, opinions, and EoG statements with the whole group. After all, this was a play test.
Congratulations to our survivors (most of you), and thanks to Scott once again for putting up a valiant defense. As our only eliminee, if that's even a word, Scott has a unique spot in the wrap up of this game.
I look forward to seeing all of you in the future, and thanks for playing.
Andy
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| DC-322 Autumn 830 - mikemorris (Aug 16, 2010, 9:15 pm) |
Scot EOG
I started the game intending to expand south down the Island. With that in mind, I wanted
to secure my flanks, and did succeed in putting together agreements with the Norse and the
Gaels. My plan was to take three centers or so on the way south, and then decide whether to
stab the Norse or the Gaels.
My decision was made fairly early on. The Norse made every move they agreed to make,
and let me take Zetland. OTOH, the Scots did not move as discussed, altho they didn't make
hostile moves. But it seemed to me that Scott was hedging his bets and was ready to side with
the Bretons or the Anglos if it proved at all advantageous. I figured that BD would put up a very
tough fight and slow me down considerably if
I pressed on him, so I turned on Scott.
It all worked very well after that. I think I may have been able to win, but Chris probably had
as good a shot as I did, so rather than draw the game out I decided to go for the DIAS.
Even tho there's been a lot of discussion about changing the map, etc, I think it is balanced
pretty well the way it is. I would suggest a few more play tests with the current map before
putting thru any major changes. I actually did envision a long term alliance with the Gaels, in
which we split up the Island, the Gaels moved onto the continent and pushed east, while I
moved into Scandanavia in the north. I think this is certainly a viable strategy for a long term
Scot/Gael alliance. This could also have worked with an alliance with either the Bretons or
the Anglos, taking out the Gaels and then moving east. I imagine I am in the minority, but I
do
like the map the way it is.
- Mike
the
From: The White Wolf <cloudhurler77(at)yahoo.com>
To: Scott Troemel <brn2dip(at)yahoo.com>; Andrew Jameson <cloudhurler77(at)yahoo.com>; Ben Hester <screwtape777(at)gmail.com>; Christopher Martin <dance.scholar(at)gmail.com>;
Darren McAdam-OConnell <dmcaoc(at)gmail.com>; DC322 Forum <dc322(at)diplomaticcorp.com>; Frank Bielschowsky <dipcorp.player(at)gmail.com>; Mike Morris <mikemorris101(at)yahoo.com>; Steve Emmert <steve.emmert(at)cox.net>
Sent: Fri, August 13, 2010 2:08:29 PM
Subject: DC-322 Autumn 830
Guys, I hope that nobody minds me putting this out an hour early. I figure we'd all be better off without the tense waiting game. The DIAS has been unanimously voted for, so this game is over. I'm sure I speak for Ben when I ask you all to share your points of view, opinions, and EoG statements with the whole group. After all, this was a play test. Congratulations to our survivors (most of you), and thanks to Scott once again for putting up a valiant defense. As our only eliminee, if that's even a word, Scott has a unique spot in the wrap up of this game. I look forward to seeing all of you in the future, and thanks for playing.
Andy
I'm a Firefly fan and
proud! Read my fiction:
http://www.fanfiction.net/u/1369632/[Reply] |
| DC309 Winter 1906 Results - mtombu (Aug 16, 2010, 8:58 pm) |
Hey All,
Check for errors. Map and .dpy files are attached. Prelims are strongly encouraged.
The players:Austria: Phil <ilovethechiefs(at)gmail.com>
England: Andy <cloudhurler77(at)yahoo.com> *eliminated Winter 1905*
France: Dan <ddz999cat23(at)yahoo.com>
Germany: Ray <mczet99(at)gmail.com> *eliminated Winter 1906*
Italy: Blue <blueinva(at)cox.net>
Russia: John <untitled36(at)yahoo.com>
Turkey: Nathan <ndeily(at)yahoo.com> *eliminated Winter 1904*
Proposals:
FAIR draw.FRI draw.
Orders as received:
Austria:A Vienna
A Budapest
F Trieste
Italy:
F Portugal
Germany:disband Ruh
disband pie
Orders as adjudicated by RP & me:
Austria: Build F TriesteBuild A Budapest
Build A Vienna
Germany: Remove A RuhrRemove A Piedmont
Italy: Remove F Portugal
Deadlines:Spring 1907: Thurs the 19th of August at 9 pm ET.
Best,
Mike[Reply] |
| dc307 ~ Orient Express - sgttodd (Aug 16, 2010, 8:36 pm) |
Deadline for Autumn 1910 retreat is: Tuesday , August 17th (at) 2359
UTC.
Deadline for Winter 1910 adjustments is: Wednesday, August
18th (at) 2359 UTC.
A vote for a three-way India/Russia/Siberia draw has been
requested. Please vote with your adjustment orders. No vote is a
"no" vote - the vote must be unanimous to pass.
The following units were dislodged:
Indian F Bay of Bengal can retreat to Calcutta or Burma or
Bangladesh.
Unit locations:
India: F Bombay, F Central Indian Ocean, A Delhi, A Kunlun, A
Laos, A Pakistan, F Sri Lanka, F Thailand, F Bay of Bengal.
Indonesia: F Bay of Bengal, F Cambodia, F Celebes Sea, F Eastern
Indian Ocean, F Philippines, F South China Sea, F South Indian
Ocean, F Thai Sea.
Japan: F East China Sea.
Russia: A Afghanistan, F Arabian Sea, F Eastern African Sea, A
Iran, A Iraq, A Kazakhstan, A Oman, F Red Sea, F Seychelles, F St.
Petersburg, A Tien Shan, A Uzbekistan.
Siberia: A Beijing, A Hong Kong, F Honshu, F Kamchatka, A
Mongolia, A Novosibirsk, F Sea of Okhotsk, F Shanghai, A Vietnam, F
Yellow Sea.
Ownership of supply centers:
India: Bombay, Burma, Calcutta, Delhi, Kunlun, Laos, Pakistan,
Sri Lanka, Thailand, Tibet.
Indonesia: Australia, Borneo, Java, Philippines, Sumatra.
Japan: Hokkaido.
Russia: Arabia, Balkans, Egypt, Iran, Iraq, Madagascar, Moscow,
Oman, Sevastopol, St. Petersburg, Turkey, Urals, Uzbekistan.
Siberia: Beijing, Honshu, Irkutsk, Kamchatka, Korea, Manchuria,
Novosibirsk, Shanghai, Vietnam, West Siberia, Yakutsk.
Adjustments:
India: 10 Supply centers, 9 Units: Builds 1 unit.
Indonesia: 5 Supply centers, 8 Units: Removes 3 units.
Japan: 1 Supply center , 1 Unit.
Russia: 13 Supply centers, 12 Units: Builds 1 unit.
Siberia: 11 Supply centers, 10 Units: Builds 1 unit.
Movement results for Fall of 1910:
India: F Bay of Bengal - Thai Sea (*Dislodged*).
India: F Bombay Supports A Pakistan.
India: F Central Indian Ocean - Arabian Sea (*Fails*).
India: A Delhi Supports A Pakistan.
India: A Kunlun Hold.
India: A Laos Supports F Hong Kong - Vietnam.
India: A Pakistan Hold.
India: F Sri Lanka Supports F Central Indian Ocean - Arabian Sea.
India: F Thailand - Cambodia (*Fails*).
Indonesia: F Cambodia Supports F Thai Sea (*Cut*).
Indonesia: F Celebes Sea Supports F Philippines - East China Sea.
Indonesia: F Eastern Indian Ocean Supports F South Indian Ocean.
Indonesia: F Philippines - East China Sea (*Fails*).
Indonesia: F South China Sea Supports F Thai Sea (*Cut*).
Indonesia: F South Indian Ocean Hold.
Indonesia: F Sumatra - Bay of Bengal.
Indonesia: F Thai Sea Supports F Sumatra - Bay of Bengal.
Japan: F East China Sea Hold.
Russia: A Afghanistan Supports A Tien Shan - Pakistan.
Russia: A Arabia - Oman.
Russia: F Eastern African Sea Supports F Yemen - Arabian Sea.
Russia: A Iran Supports A Tien Shan - Pakistan.
Russia: A Iraq Hold.
Russia: A Kazakhstan - Urals (*Bounce*).
Russia: F Red Sea Supports F Yemen - Arabian Sea.
Russia: F Seychelles Supports F Yemen - Arabian Sea.
Russia: F St. Petersburg - Urals (*Bounce*).
Russia: A Tien Shan - Pakistan (*Fails*).
Russia: A Uzbekistan - Tien Shan (*Fails*).
Russia: F Yemen - Arabian Sea.
Siberia: F Arctic Sea - Kamchatka.
Siberia: A Beijing Supports A Mongolia.
Siberia: A Chongqing - Hong Kong.
Siberia: A Hong Kong - Vietnam.
Siberia: F Honshu Supports F East China Sea.
Siberia: A Mongolia Supports A Novosibirsk.
Siberia: A Novosibirsk Supports A Mongolia.
Siberia: F Sea of Okhotsk Supports F East China Sea.
Siberia: F Shanghai - South China Sea (*Fails*).
Siberia: F Yellow Sea - Shanghai (*Fails*).
Deadline for Autumn 1910 retreat is: Tuesday , August 17th (at) 2359
UTC.
Deadline for Winter 1910 adjustments is: Wednesday, August
18th (at) 2359 UTC.
files: http://mainecav.org/diplomacy[Reply] |
| dc311 AEG Draw - notasb (Aug 16, 2010, 5:40 pm) |
The game has ended in a Germany, England, Austria draw. Turkey is a survivor.
Thank you for playing, and thank you for making my job easy.
Players:
Austria - Bruce Ray
England - Daniel Dzikowicz
France - Nick Powell
Germany - Dirk Knemeyer
Italy - Jason K
Russia - Paul Russell
Turkey - Hamish Williams
End of game map:
http://home.comcast.net/~dawench/311/31120Winter.gif
Davlin
------------
"We are not retreating-we are advancing in another direction."
- General Douglas MacArthur[Reply] |
| dc330: Fa39 Orders due soon! - dknemeyer (Aug 16, 2010, 4:11 pm) |
Hi Folks,
We have just under 24 hours remaining to get in your final orders for
the upcoming season!
I expect to be adjudicating in a very timely fashion tomorrow, so look
for the files within a couple hours of the deadline.
Happy hunting!
Dirk[Reply] |
| Next GM? - z93blom (Aug 16, 2010, 3:59 pm) |
Great Salim!
I don't know if RP runs under Linux, but I do believe that jDip would run under Linux, being a Java program.
http://jdip.sourceforge.net/
/Fredrik[Reply] |
| DC327 - 21 hrs reminder S06 deadline - bielf11 (Aug 16, 2010, 3:59 pm) |
Still awaiting orders from those BCC'd in.
Deadline is Tuesday Aug 17 at 7pm GMT.
Frank[Reply] |
| dc337 - Spring 1900 Results - z93blom (Aug 16, 2010, 3:55 pm) |
Diplomats,
A small mistake and an explanation.
You should find the image with the orders attached to this mail. I mistakenly sent the image with the final positions of all units twice.
An explanation about Spain is also in order. RealPolitik (the program that I use to adjudicate with) cannot handle the three coasts of Spain that is in this variant. Therefore in RealPolitik Spain has been split into two provinces - Spain and SpainWC. Spain is still a single province! The split into two provinces is just to allow me to be able to use the program at all with the variant.
The three coasts of Spain are the North coast, the west coast and the east coast. The north coast is the coast between Portugal and France just like in the standard variant. The east coast is Spain's Mediterranean coast. The west coast is the small space in between Gibraltar and Portugal.
The English Fleet currently occupying Spain is situated on the west coast of Spain.
Next turn: Fall 1900 MovesNext Deadline: Monday, 23rd of August 2010, 18:00 GMT (6PM).
/Fredrik
2010/8/16 Fredrik Blom <fredrik(at)familjenblom.se>
Oh, and here are the files as well.
If you're going to load the .dpy file (RealPolitik) I suggest you get the updated 1900.zip (from today) file from the site. I've changed the order of the powers so that they are alphabetical.
/Fredrik
2010/8/16 Fredrik Blom <fredrik(at)familjenblom.se>
Diplomats,
It is with great pleasure that I present the results of the first season. We had some clashes, and I might guess at some of the conflicts heating up. I'm not going to spoil anyone's surprise though, so I will not disclose them openly. There are no retreats needed so we'll move into the Fall season immediately. I'll allow a full week for this season - I expect that there might be things to discuss. Soon we'll step up the pace a bit.
I'm also proud to present that we have Baron Powell listening in on the game. Baron is the designer of the variant, and I'll copy all the adjudications to him as well.
Keep the preliminary orders coming. Now that we've got the game started I'm not going to allow any replacements.
Next turn: Fall 1900 MovesNext Deadline: Monday, 23rd of August 2010, 18:00 GMT (6PM).
Spring moves:Austria: A Vienna - Budapest (*Fails*)A Budapest - Galicia (*Bounce*)A Trieste - Serbia
Britain:
F Gibraltar - Spain WCF Edinburgh - North SeaF London - English Channel (*Bounce*)F Egypt - Mid Atlantic Ocean
France: F Brest - English Channel (*Bounce*)
A Paris - GasconyA Marseilles - Switzerland (*Bounce*)A Algeria - Morocco
Germany: F Kiel - DenmarkA Cologne - BelgiumA Berlin - Kiel
A Munich Hold
Italy: A Milan - Switzerland (*Bounce*)A Rome - ApuliaF Naples - Ionian Sea
Russia: F St Petersburg(sc) - Finland
A Warsaw - Galicia (*Bounce*)A Moscow - UkraineF Sevastopol - Rumania
Turkey: A Constantinople - BulgariaF Ankara - Black SeaA Damascus Hold
Next turn: Fall 1900 MovesNext Deadline: Monday, 23rd of August 2010, 18:00 GMT (6PM).
/Fredrik[Reply] |
| dc337 - Spring 1900 Results - z93blom (Aug 16, 2010, 3:44 pm) |
Oh, and here are the files as well.
If you're going to load the .dpy file (RealPolitik) I suggest you get the updated 1900.zip (from today) file from the site. I've changed the order of the powers so that they are alphabetical.
/Fredrik
2010/8/16 Fredrik Blom <fredrik(at)familjenblom.se>
Diplomats,
It is with great pleasure that I present the results of the first season. We had some clashes, and I might guess at some of the conflicts heating up. I'm not going to spoil anyone's surprise though, so I will not disclose them openly. There are no retreats needed so we'll move into the Fall season immediately. I'll allow a full week for this season - I expect that there might be things to discuss. Soon we'll step up the pace a bit.
I'm also proud to present that we have Baron Powell listening in on the game. Baron is the designer of the variant, and I'll copy all the adjudications to him as well.
Keep the preliminary orders coming. Now that we've got the game started I'm not going to allow any replacements.
Next turn: Fall 1900 MovesNext Deadline: Monday, 23rd of August 2010, 18:00 GMT (6PM).
Spring moves:Austria: A Vienna - Budapest (*Fails*)A Budapest - Galicia (*Bounce*)A Trieste - Serbia
Britain:
F Gibraltar - Spain WCF Edinburgh - North SeaF London - English Channel (*Bounce*)F Egypt - Mid Atlantic Ocean
France: F Brest - English Channel (*Bounce*)
A Paris - GasconyA Marseilles - Switzerland (*Bounce*)A Algeria - Morocco
Germany: F Kiel - DenmarkA Cologne - BelgiumA Berlin - Kiel
A Munich Hold
Italy: A Milan - Switzerland (*Bounce*)A Rome - ApuliaF Naples - Ionian Sea
Russia: F St Petersburg(sc) - Finland
A Warsaw - Galicia (*Bounce*)A Moscow - UkraineF Sevastopol - Rumania
Turkey: A Constantinople - BulgariaF Ankara - Black SeaA Damascus Hold
Next turn: Fall 1900 MovesNext Deadline: Monday, 23rd of August 2010, 18:00 GMT (6PM).
/Fredrik[Reply] |
| dc337 - Spring 1900 Results - z93blom (Aug 16, 2010, 3:41 pm) |
Diplomats,
It is with great pleasure that I present the results of the first season. We had some clashes, and I might guess at some of the conflicts heating up. I'm not going to spoil anyone's surprise though, so I will not disclose them openly. There are no retreats needed so we'll move into the Fall season immediately. I'll allow a full week for this season - I expect that there might be things to discuss. Soon we'll step up the pace a bit.
I'm also proud to present that we have Baron Powell listening in on the game. Baron is the designer of the variant, and I'll copy all the adjudications to him as well.
Keep the preliminary orders coming. Now that we've got the game started I'm not going to allow any replacements.
Next turn: Fall 1900 MovesNext Deadline: Monday, 23rd of August 2010, 18:00 GMT (6PM).
Spring moves:Austria: A Vienna - Budapest (*Fails*)A Budapest - Galicia (*Bounce*)A Trieste - Serbia
Britain:
F Gibraltar - Spain WCF Edinburgh - North SeaF London - English Channel (*Bounce*)F Egypt - Mid Atlantic Ocean
France: F Brest - English Channel (*Bounce*)
A Paris - GasconyA Marseilles - Switzerland (*Bounce*)A Algeria - Morocco
Germany: F Kiel - DenmarkA Cologne - BelgiumA Berlin - Kiel
A Munich Hold
Italy: A Milan - Switzerland (*Bounce*)A Rome - ApuliaF Naples - Ionian Sea
Russia: F St Petersburg(sc) - Finland
A Warsaw - Galicia (*Bounce*)A Moscow - UkraineF Sevastopol - Rumania
Turkey: A Constantinople - BulgariaF Ankara - Black SeaA Damascus Hold
Next turn: Fall 1900 MovesNext Deadline: Monday, 23rd of August 2010, 18:00 GMT (6PM).
/Fredrik[Reply] |
| dc337 - Spring 1900 Results (dc337) z93blom Aug 16, 03:44 pm |
Oh, and here are the files as well.
If you're going to load the .dpy file (RealPolitik) I suggest you get the updated 1900.zip (from today) file from the site. I've changed the order of the powers so that they are alphabetical.
/Fredrik
2010/8/16 Fredrik Blom <fredrik(at)familjenblom.se>
Diplomats,
It is with great pleasure that I present the results of the first season. We had some clashes, and I might guess at some of the conflicts heating up. I'm not going to spoil anyone's surprise though, so I will not disclose them openly. There are no retreats needed so we'll move into the Fall season immediately. I'll allow a full week for this season - I expect that there might be things to discuss. Soon we'll step up the pace a bit.
I'm also proud to present that we have Baron Powell listening in on the game. Baron is the designer of the variant, and I'll copy all the adjudications to him as well.
Keep the preliminary orders coming. Now that we've got the game started I'm not going to allow any replacements.
Next turn: Fall 1900 MovesNext Deadline: Monday, 23rd of August 2010, 18:00 GMT (6PM).
Spring moves:Austria: A Vienna - Budapest (*Fails*)A Budapest - Galicia (*Bounce*)A Trieste - Serbia
Britain:
F Gibraltar - Spain WCF Edinburgh - North SeaF London - English Channel (*Bounce*)F Egypt - Mid Atlantic Ocean
France: F Brest - English Channel (*Bounce*)
A Paris - GasconyA Marseilles - Switzerland (*Bounce*)A Algeria - Morocco
Germany: F Kiel - DenmarkA Cologne - BelgiumA Berlin - Kiel
A Munich Hold
Italy: A Milan - Switzerland (*Bounce*)A Rome - ApuliaF Naples - Ionian Sea
Russia: F St Petersburg(sc) - Finland
A Warsaw - Galicia (*Bounce*)A Moscow - UkraineF Sevastopol - Rumania
Turkey: A Constantinople - BulgariaF Ankara - Black SeaA Damascus Hold
Next turn: Fall 1900 MovesNext Deadline: Monday, 23rd of August 2010, 18:00 GMT (6PM).
/Fredrik |
| dc337 - Spring 1900 Results (dc337) z93blom Aug 16, 03:55 pm |
Diplomats,
A small mistake and an explanation.
You should find the image with the orders attached to this mail. I mistakenly sent the image with the final positions of all units twice.
An explanation about Spain is also in order. RealPolitik (the program that I use to adjudicate with) cannot handle the three coasts of Spain that is in this variant. Therefore in RealPolitik Spain has been split into two provinces - Spain and SpainWC. Spain is still a single province! The split into two provinces is just to allow me to be able to use the program at all with the variant.
The three coasts of Spain are the North coast, the west coast and the east coast. The north coast is the coast between Portugal and France just like in the standard variant. The east coast is Spain's Mediterranean coast. The west coast is the small space in between Gibraltar and Portugal.
The English Fleet currently occupying Spain is situated on the west coast of Spain.
Next turn: Fall 1900 MovesNext Deadline: Monday, 23rd of August 2010, 18:00 GMT (6PM).
/Fredrik
2010/8/16 Fredrik Blom <fredrik(at)familjenblom.se>
Oh, and here are the files as well.
If you're going to load the .dpy file (RealPolitik) I suggest you get the updated 1900.zip (from today) file from the site. I've changed the order of the powers so that they are alphabetical.
/Fredrik
2010/8/16 Fredrik Blom <fredrik(at)familjenblom.se>
Diplomats,
It is with great pleasure that I present the results of the first season. We had some clashes, and I might guess at some of the conflicts heating up. I'm not going to spoil anyone's surprise though, so I will not disclose them openly. There are no retreats needed so we'll move into the Fall season immediately. I'll allow a full week for this season - I expect that there might be things to discuss. Soon we'll step up the pace a bit.
I'm also proud to present that we have Baron Powell listening in on the game. Baron is the designer of the variant, and I'll copy all the adjudications to him as well.
Keep the preliminary orders coming. Now that we've got the game started I'm not going to allow any replacements.
Next turn: Fall 1900 MovesNext Deadline: Monday, 23rd of August 2010, 18:00 GMT (6PM).
Spring moves:Austria: A Vienna - Budapest (*Fails*)A Budapest - Galicia (*Bounce*)A Trieste - Serbia
Britain:
F Gibraltar - Spain WCF Edinburgh - North SeaF London - English Channel (*Bounce*)F Egypt - Mid Atlantic Ocean
France: F Brest - English Channel (*Bounce*)
A Paris - GasconyA Marseilles - Switzerland (*Bounce*)A Algeria - Morocco
Germany: F Kiel - DenmarkA Cologne - BelgiumA Berlin - Kiel
A Munich Hold
Italy: A Milan - Switzerland (*Bounce*)A Rome - ApuliaF Naples - Ionian Sea
Russia: F St Petersburg(sc) - Finland
A Warsaw - Galicia (*Bounce*)A Moscow - UkraineF Sevastopol - Rumania
Turkey: A Constantinople - BulgariaF Ankara - Black SeaA Damascus Hold
Next turn: Fall 1900 MovesNext Deadline: Monday, 23rd of August 2010, 18:00 GMT (6PM).
/Fredrik |
| dc337 - Spring 1900 Results (dc337) z93blom Aug 22, 02:31 am |
Diplomats,
Your orders for dc337 are due in about 36 hours. I have confirmed all orders that I have received. If you do not have a confirmation I do not have your orders.
Also - there's a slight change of rules. We are going with the variant rule of 18 centers to win. I'll announce this with the adjudication as well.
Next turn: Fall 1900 MovesNext Deadline: Monday, 23rd of August 2010, 18:00 GMT (6PM).
/Fredrik |
| DC336 Winter Adjudication - mgsmuhammad (Aug 16, 2010, 3:09 pm) |
Austria
A Budapest
England
F London
France
F Brest
A Paris
Germany
F Berlin
A Kiel
Italy
F Naples
Russia
A Moscow
Turkey
A Constantinople
F Ankara
Next Adjudication is Spring '02.
Does 21:00 on the 21st seem like a reasonable deadine, guys?[Reply] |
| DC309 Fall 1906 Results - mtombu (Aug 16, 2010, 2:35 pm) |
Yeah I was on autopilot and just got it wrong... Happens too often these days!
Sent from my iPhone
On 2010-08-16, at 2:52 PM, John R <untitled36(at)yahoo.com> wrote:
I didn't *think* Kiel was possible, and if it was the germans would still be alive. so I was confused. 
John
From: Mike Tombu <mtombu(at)gmail.com>
To: Mike Tombu <mtombu(at)gmail.com>
Cc: The White Wolf <cloudhurler77(at)yahoo.com>; Dan Dzikowicz <ddz999cat23(at)yahoo.com>; John R <untitled36(at)yahoo.com>; Philip King <ilovethechiefs(at)gmail.com>; Sean Cable <blueinva(at)cox.net>; Raymond Setzer <mczet99(at)gmail.com>; NathanDeily <ndeily(at)yahoo.com>; "<dc309(at)diplomaticcorp.com>" <dc309(at)diplomaticcorp.com>
Sent: Mon, August 16, 2010 1:49:50 PM
Subject: Re: DC309 Fall 1906 Results
I meant ruh. Good catch (hol retreats to ruh).
Sent from my iPhone
On 2010-08-16, at 12:11 PM, Mike Tombu <mtombu(at)gmail.com> wrote:
Hey guys,
I forgot to publish the German retreats. Mar retreats to pie, hol retreats to kie.
Adjustment are due tonight!
Best,
Mike
Sent from my iPhone
On 2010-08-13, at 3:30 PM, mike Tombu <mtombu(at)gmail.com> wrote:
Hey All,
We say goodbye to another power this year. Ray thanks for sticking it out. We also have our first game ending proposal - a FAIR draw. Vote on the draw with Spring orders (Thursday). While Germany still has units, they'll be gone no matter what by Winter. These are also the only retreats. So, If I don't hear from Ray, I'll take the liberty of retreating them myself on Sunday, and then disbanding them on Monday. For the rest of you, get me adjustments for Monday, and Spring moves (and votes) for Thursday.
I was not the only person who was late this season (apologies btw). Please get me prelims so we can keep the game moving at a move-a-week pace!
Map and .dpy file are attached. Please check for errors.
The players:
Austria: Phil <ilovethechiefs(at)gmail.com>
England: Andy <cloudhurler77(at)yahoo.com> *eliminated Winter 1905*
France: Dan <ddz999cat23(at)yahoo.com>
Germany: Ray <mczet99(at)gmail.com> *eliminated Winter 1906*
Italy: Blue <blueinva(at)cox.net>
Russia: John <untitled36(at)yahoo.com>
Turkey: Nathan <ndeily(at)yahoo.com> *eliminated Winter 1904*
Proposal:
FAIR draw.
Orders as received:
Austria:
A Moscow Supports A Warsaw - Livonia
A Warsaw - Livonia
A Sevastopol - Armenia
F Constantinople Holds
A Serbia - Greece
A Trieste - Venice
A Tyrolia Supports A Trieste - Venice
A Kiel Holds
A Berlin Supports A Kiel
A Munich Supports A Kiel
France:
F Nat Supp F Iri - Mao
F Eng Supp F Iri - Mao
F Iri - Mao
F Bre Supp F Iri - Mao
A Bel Supp A Nwy - Hol
A Bur Supp A Gas - Mar
A Gas - Mar
Germany:
A mar S France A Spain - gascony
A Belgium Hold
Italy:
F Portugal supports F MAO - Spain (sc)
F MAO - Spain (sc)
A Spain - Tuscany
A Rome - Apulia
A Ankara - Constantinople
F West Med - Tyrhennian Sea
F North Africa - Tunis
F Gulf of Lyons convoys A Spain - Tuscany
Russia:
F Denmark - Kiel
A Finland Supports A St Petersburg
F North Sea Convoys A Norway - Holland
A Norway - Holland
A St Petersburg Hold
Orders as adjudicated by RP and me:
Austria:
A Berlin Supports A Kiel
F Constantinople Hold
A Kiel Hold
A Moscow Supports A Warsaw - Livonia
A Munich Supports A Kiel
A Serbia - Greece
A Sevastopol - Armenia
A Trieste - Venice
A Tyrolia Supports A Trieste - Venice
A Warsaw - Livonia
France:
A Belgium Supports A Norway - Holland
F Brest Supports F Irish Sea - Mid-Atlantic Ocean
A Burgundy Supports A Gascony - Marseilles
F English Channel Supports F Irish Sea - Mid-Atlantic Ocean
A Gascony - Marseilles
F Irish Sea - Mid-Atlantic Ocean
F North Atlantic Ocean Supports F Irish Sea - Mid-Atlantic Ocean
Germany:
A Holland Hold (*Dislodged*)
A Marseilles Supports A Spain - Gascony (*Dislodged*)
Italy:
A Ankara - Constantinople (*Fails*)
F Gulf of Lyon Convoys A Spain - Tuscany
F Mid-Atlantic Ocean - Spain(sc)
F North Africa - Tunis
F Portugal Supports F Mid-Atlantic Ocean - Spain(sc)
A Rome - Apulia
A Spain - Tuscany
F Western Mediterranean - Tyrrhenian Sea
Russia:
F Denmark - Kiel (*Fails*)
A Finland Supports A St Petersburg
F North Sea Convoys A Norway - Holland
A Norway - Holland
A St Petersburg Hold
Retreats:
The German army in Holland can retreat to Ruhr or OTB.
The German army in Marseilles can retreat to Piedmont or OTB.
Adjustments:
Austria: 15 SCs. May build 3.
France: 7 SCs. Even.
Germany: 0 SCs. Must remove 2, 1, or 0 depending retreats. GM will take care of this.
Italy: 7 SCs. Must disband 1.
Russia: 5 SCs. Even.
Deadlines:
Autumn 1906 will be adjudicated on Sunday the 15th of August at 9 pm.
Winter 1906 will be adjudicated on Monday the 16th of August at 9 pm.
Spring 1907 will be adjudicated on Thursday the 19th of August at 9 pm.
Best,
Mike
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| DC309 Fall 1906 Results - untitled36 (Aug 16, 2010, 1:52 pm) |
I didn't *think* Kiel was possible, and if it was the germans would still be alive. so I was confused.
John
From: Mike Tombu <mtombu(at)gmail.com>
To: Mike Tombu <mtombu(at)gmail.com>
Cc: The White Wolf <cloudhurler77(at)yahoo.com>; Dan Dzikowicz <ddz999cat23(at)yahoo.com>; John R <untitled36(at)yahoo.com>; Philip King <ilovethechiefs(at)gmail.com>; Sean Cable <blueinva(at)cox.net>; Raymond Setzer <mczet99(at)gmail.com>; NathanDeily <ndeily(at)yahoo.com>; "<dc309(at)diplomaticcorp.com>" <dc309(at)diplomaticcorp.com>
Sent: Mon, August 16, 2010 1:49:50 PM
Subject: Re: DC309 Fall 1906 Results
I meant ruh. Good catch (hol retreats to ruh).
Sent from my iPhone
On 2010-08-16, at 12:11 PM, Mike Tombu <mtombu(at)gmail.com> wrote:
Hey guys,
I forgot to publish the German retreats. Mar retreats to pie, hol retreats to kie.
Adjustment are due tonight!
Best,
Mike
Sent from my iPhone
On 2010-08-13, at 3:30 PM, mike Tombu <mtombu(at)gmail.com> wrote:
Hey All,
We say goodbye to another power this year. Ray thanks for sticking it out. We also have our first game ending proposal - a FAIR draw. Vote on the draw with Spring orders (Thursday). While Germany still has units, they'll be gone no matter what by Winter. These are also the only retreats. So, If I don't hear from Ray, I'll take the liberty of retreating them myself on Sunday, and then disbanding them on Monday. For the rest of you, get me adjustments for Monday, and Spring moves (and votes) for Thursday.
I was not the only person who was late this season (apologies btw). Please get me prelims so we can keep the game moving at a move-a-week pace!
Map and .dpy file are attached. Please check for errors.
The players:
Austria: Phil <ilovethechiefs(at)gmail.com>
England: Andy <cloudhurler77(at)yahoo.com> *eliminated Winter 1905*
France: Dan <ddz999cat23(at)yahoo.com>
Germany: Ray <mczet99(at)gmail.com> *eliminated Winter 1906*
Italy: Blue <blueinva(at)cox.net>
Russia: John <untitled36(at)yahoo.com>
Turkey: Nathan <ndeily(at)yahoo.com> *eliminated Winter 1904*
Proposal:
FAIR draw.
Orders as received:
Austria:
A Moscow Supports A Warsaw - Livonia
A Warsaw - Livonia
A Sevastopol - Armenia
F Constantinople Holds
A Serbia - Greece
A Trieste - Venice
A Tyrolia Supports A Trieste - Venice
A Kiel Holds
A Berlin Supports A Kiel
A Munich Supports A Kiel
France:
F Nat Supp F Iri - Mao
F Eng Supp F Iri - Mao
F Iri - Mao
F Bre Supp F Iri - Mao
A Bel Supp A Nwy - Hol
A Bur Supp A Gas - Mar
A Gas - Mar
Germany:
A mar S France A Spain - gascony
A Belgium Hold
Italy:
F Portugal supports F MAO - Spain (sc)
F MAO - Spain (sc)
A Spain - Tuscany
A Rome - Apulia
A Ankara - Constantinople
F West Med - Tyrhennian Sea
F North Africa - Tunis
F Gulf of Lyons convoys A Spain - Tuscany
Russia:
F Denmark - Kiel
A Finland Supports A St Petersburg
F North Sea Convoys A Norway - Holland
A Norway - Holland
A St Petersburg Hold
Orders as adjudicated by RP and me:
Austria:
A Berlin Supports A Kiel
F Constantinople Hold
A Kiel Hold
A Moscow Supports A Warsaw - Livonia
A Munich Supports A Kiel
A Serbia - Greece
A Sevastopol - Armenia
A Trieste - Venice
A Tyrolia Supports A Trieste - Venice
A Warsaw - Livonia
France:
A Belgium Supports A Norway - Holland
F Brest Supports F Irish Sea - Mid-Atlantic Ocean
A Burgundy Supports A Gascony - Marseilles
F English Channel Supports F Irish Sea - Mid-Atlantic Ocean
A Gascony - Marseilles
F Irish Sea - Mid-Atlantic Ocean
F North Atlantic Ocean Supports F Irish Sea - Mid-Atlantic Ocean
Germany:
A Holland Hold (*Dislodged*)
A Marseilles Supports A Spain - Gascony (*Dislodged*)
Italy:
A Ankara - Constantinople (*Fails*)
F Gulf of Lyon Convoys A Spain - Tuscany
F Mid-Atlantic Ocean - Spain(sc)
F North Africa - Tunis
F Portugal Supports F Mid-Atlantic Ocean - Spain(sc)
A Rome - Apulia
A Spain - Tuscany
F Western Mediterranean - Tyrrhenian Sea
Russia:
F Denmark - Kiel (*Fails*)
A Finland Supports A St Petersburg
F North Sea Convoys A Norway - Holland
A Norway - Holland
A St Petersburg Hold
Retreats:
The German army in Holland can retreat to Ruhr or OTB.
The German army in Marseilles can retreat to Piedmont or OTB.
Adjustments:
Austria: 15 SCs. May build 3.
France: 7 SCs. Even.
Germany: 0 SCs. Must remove 2, 1, or 0 depending retreats. GM will take care of this.
Italy: 7 SCs. Must disband 1.
Russia: 5 SCs. Even.
Deadlines:
Autumn 1906 will be adjudicated on Sunday the 15th of August at 9 pm.
Winter 1906 will be adjudicated on Monday the 16th of August at 9 pm.
Spring 1907 will be adjudicated on Thursday the 19th of August at 9 pm.
Best,
Mike
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<DC309.dpy>[Reply] |
| DC309 Fall 1906 Results - untitled36 (Aug 16, 2010, 1:52 pm) |
I didn't *think* Kiel was possible, and if it was the germans would still be alive. so I was confused.
John
From: Mike Tombu <mtombu(at)gmail.com>
To: Mike Tombu <mtombu(at)gmail.com>
Cc: The White Wolf <cloudhurler77(at)yahoo.com>; Dan Dzikowicz <ddz999cat23(at)yahoo.com>; John R <untitled36(at)yahoo.com>; Philip King <ilovethechiefs(at)gmail.com>; Sean Cable <blueinva(at)cox.net>; Raymond Setzer <mczet99(at)gmail.com>; NathanDeily <ndeily(at)yahoo.com>; "<dc309(at)diplomaticcorp.com>" <dc309(at)diplomaticcorp.com>
Sent: Mon, August 16, 2010 1:49:50 PM
Subject: Re: DC309 Fall 1906 Results
I meant ruh. Good catch (hol retreats to ruh).
Sent from my iPhone
On 2010-08-16, at 12:11 PM, Mike Tombu <mtombu(at)gmail.com> wrote:
Hey guys,
I forgot to publish the German retreats. Mar retreats to pie, hol retreats to kie.
Adjustment are due tonight!
Best,
Mike
Sent from my iPhone
On 2010-08-13, at 3:30 PM, mike Tombu <mtombu(at)gmail.com> wrote:
Hey All,
We say goodbye to another power this year. Ray thanks for sticking it out. We also have our first game ending proposal - a FAIR draw. Vote on the draw with Spring orders (Thursday). While Germany still has units, they'll be gone no matter what by Winter. These are also the only retreats. So, If I don't hear from Ray, I'll take the liberty of retreating them myself on Sunday, and then disbanding them on Monday. For the rest of you, get me adjustments for Monday, and Spring moves (and votes) for Thursday.
I was not the only person who was late this season (apologies btw). Please get me prelims so we can keep the game moving at a move-a-week pace!
Map and .dpy file are attached. Please check for errors.
The players:
Austria: Phil <ilovethechiefs(at)gmail.com>
England: Andy <cloudhurler77(at)yahoo.com> *eliminated Winter 1905*
France: Dan <ddz999cat23(at)yahoo.com>
Germany: Ray <mczet99(at)gmail.com> *eliminated Winter 1906*
Italy: Blue <blueinva(at)cox.net>
Russia: John <untitled36(at)yahoo.com>
Turkey: Nathan <ndeily(at)yahoo.com> *eliminated Winter 1904*
Proposal:
FAIR draw.
Orders as received:
Austria:
A Moscow Supports A Warsaw - Livonia
A Warsaw - Livonia
A Sevastopol - Armenia
F Constantinople Holds
A Serbia - Greece
A Trieste - Venice
A Tyrolia Supports A Trieste - Venice
A Kiel Holds
A Berlin Supports A Kiel
A Munich Supports A Kiel
France:
F Nat Supp F Iri - Mao
F Eng Supp F Iri - Mao
F Iri - Mao
F Bre Supp F Iri - Mao
A Bel Supp A Nwy - Hol
A Bur Supp A Gas - Mar
A Gas - Mar
Germany:
A mar S France A Spain - gascony
A Belgium Hold
Italy:
F Portugal supports F MAO - Spain (sc)
F MAO - Spain (sc)
A Spain - Tuscany
A Rome - Apulia
A Ankara - Constantinople
F West Med - Tyrhennian Sea
F North Africa - Tunis
F Gulf of Lyons convoys A Spain - Tuscany
Russia:
F Denmark - Kiel
A Finland Supports A St Petersburg
F North Sea Convoys A Norway - Holland
A Norway - Holland
A St Petersburg Hold
Orders as adjudicated by RP and me:
Austria:
A Berlin Supports A Kiel
F Constantinople Hold
A Kiel Hold
A Moscow Supports A Warsaw - Livonia
A Munich Supports A Kiel
A Serbia - Greece
A Sevastopol - Armenia
A Trieste - Venice
A Tyrolia Supports A Trieste - Venice
A Warsaw - Livonia
France:
A Belgium Supports A Norway - Holland
F Brest Supports F Irish Sea - Mid-Atlantic Ocean
A Burgundy Supports A Gascony - Marseilles
F English Channel Supports F Irish Sea - Mid-Atlantic Ocean
A Gascony - Marseilles
F Irish Sea - Mid-Atlantic Ocean
F North Atlantic Ocean Supports F Irish Sea - Mid-Atlantic Ocean
Germany:
A Holland Hold (*Dislodged*)
A Marseilles Supports A Spain - Gascony (*Dislodged*)
Italy:
A Ankara - Constantinople (*Fails*)
F Gulf of Lyon Convoys A Spain - Tuscany
F Mid-Atlantic Ocean - Spain(sc)
F North Africa - Tunis
F Portugal Supports F Mid-Atlantic Ocean - Spain(sc)
A Rome - Apulia
A Spain - Tuscany
F Western Mediterranean - Tyrrhenian Sea
Russia:
F Denmark - Kiel (*Fails*)
A Finland Supports A St Petersburg
F North Sea Convoys A Norway - Holland
A Norway - Holland
A St Petersburg Hold
Retreats:
The German army in Holland can retreat to Ruhr or OTB.
The German army in Marseilles can retreat to Piedmont or OTB.
Adjustments:
Austria: 15 SCs. May build 3.
France: 7 SCs. Even.
Germany: 0 SCs. Must remove 2, 1, or 0 depending retreats. GM will take care of this.
Italy: 7 SCs. Must disband 1.
Russia: 5 SCs. Even.
Deadlines:
Autumn 1906 will be adjudicated on Sunday the 15th of August at 9 pm.
Winter 1906 will be adjudicated on Monday the 16th of August at 9 pm.
Spring 1907 will be adjudicated on Thursday the 19th of August at 9 pm.
Best,
Mike
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<DC309.dpy>[Reply] |
| DC309 Fall 1906 Results - mtombu (Aug 16, 2010, 1:49 pm) |
I meant ruh. Good catch (hol retreats to ruh).
Sent from my iPhone
On 2010-08-16, at 12:11 PM, Mike Tombu <mtombu(at)gmail.com> wrote:
Hey guys,
I forgot to publish the German retreats. Mar retreats to pie, hol retreats to kie.
Adjustment are due tonight!
Best,
Mike
Sent from my iPhone
On 2010-08-13, at 3:30 PM, mike Tombu <mtombu(at)gmail.com> wrote:
Hey All,
We say goodbye to another power this year. Ray thanks for sticking it out. We also have our first game ending proposal - a FAIR draw. Vote on the draw with Spring orders (Thursday). While Germany still has units, they'll be gone no matter what by Winter. These are also the only retreats. So, If I don't hear from Ray, I'll take the liberty of retreating them myself on Sunday, and then disbanding them on Monday. For the rest of you, get me adjustments for Monday, and Spring moves (and votes) for Thursday.
I was not the only person who was late this season (apologies btw). Please get me prelims so we can keep the game moving at a move-a-week pace!
Map and .dpy file are attached. Please check for errors.
The players:
Austria: Phil <ilovethechiefs(at)gmail.com>
England: Andy <cloudhurler77(at)yahoo.com> *eliminated Winter 1905*
France: Dan <ddz999cat23(at)yahoo.com>
Germany: Ray <mczet99(at)gmail.com> *eliminated Winter 1906*
Italy: Blue <blueinva(at)cox.net>
Russia: John <untitled36(at)yahoo.com>
Turkey: Nathan <ndeily(at)yahoo.com> *eliminated Winter 1904*
Proposal:
FAIR draw.
Orders as received:Austria:
A Moscow Supports A Warsaw - Livonia
A Warsaw - Livonia
A Sevastopol - Armenia
F Constantinople Holds
A Serbia - Greece
A Trieste - Venice
A Tyrolia Supports A Trieste - VeniceA Kiel Holds
A Berlin Supports A Kiel
A Munich Supports A Kiel
France:
F Nat Supp F Iri - Mao
F Eng Supp F Iri - Mao
F Iri - Mao
F Bre Supp F Iri - Mao
A Bel Supp A Nwy - Hol
A Bur Supp A Gas - Mar
A Gas - Mar
Germany:A mar S France A Spain - gascony
A Belgium Hold
Italy:
F Portugal supports F MAO - Spain (sc)F MAO - Spain (sc)
A Spain - TuscanyA Rome - ApuliaA Ankara - Constantinople
F West Med - Tyrhennian SeaF North Africa - Tunis
F Gulf of Lyons convoys A Spain - Tuscany
Russia:
F Denmark - Kiel
A Finland Supports A St Petersburg
F North Sea Convoys A Norway - Holland
A Norway - Holland
A St Petersburg Hold
Orders as adjudicated by RP and me:
Austria: A Berlin Supports A KielF Constantinople HoldA Kiel HoldA Moscow Supports A Warsaw - LivoniaA Munich Supports A KielA Serbia - GreeceA Sevastopol - Armenia
A Trieste - VeniceA Tyrolia Supports A Trieste - VeniceA Warsaw - Livonia
France: A Belgium Supports A Norway - HollandF Brest Supports F Irish Sea - Mid-Atlantic Ocean
A Burgundy Supports A Gascony - MarseillesF English Channel Supports F Irish Sea - Mid-Atlantic OceanA Gascony - MarseillesF Irish Sea - Mid-Atlantic OceanF North Atlantic Ocean Supports F Irish Sea - Mid-Atlantic Ocean
Germany: A Holland Hold (*Dislodged*)A Marseilles Supports A Spain - Gascony (*Dislodged*)
Italy: A Ankara - Constantinople (*Fails*)
F Gulf of Lyon Convoys A Spain - TuscanyF Mid-Atlantic Ocean - Spain(sc)F North Africa - TunisF Portugal Supports F Mid-Atlantic Ocean - Spain(sc)A Rome - ApuliaA Spain - Tuscany
F Western Mediterranean - Tyrrhenian Sea
Russia: F Denmark - Kiel (*Fails*)A Finland Supports A St PetersburgF North Sea Convoys A Norway - Holland
A Norway - HollandA St Petersburg Hold
Retreats:The German army in Holland can retreat to Ruhr or OTB.The German army in Marseilles can retreat to Piedmont or OTB.
Adjustments:Austria: 15 SCs. May build 3.France: 7 SCs. Even.Germany: 0 SCs. Must remove 2, 1, or 0 depending retreats. GM will take care of this.Italy: 7 SCs. Must disband 1.
Russia: 5 SCs. Even.
Deadlines:Autumn 1906 will be adjudicated on Sunday the 15th of August at 9 pm.Winter 1906 will be adjudicated on Monday the 16th of August at 9 pm.
Spring 1907 will be adjudicated on Thursday the 19th of August at 9 pm.
Best,
Mike
<DC309 F06.png><DC309.dpy>[Reply] |
| DC309 Fall 1906 Results - mtombu (Aug 16, 2010, 11:11 am) |
Hey guys,
I forgot to publish the German retreats. Mar retreats to pie, hol retreats to kie.
Adjustment are due tonight!
Best,
Mike
Sent from my iPhone
On 2010-08-13, at 3:30 PM, mike Tombu <mtombu(at)gmail.com> wrote:
Hey All,
We say goodbye to another power this year. Ray thanks for sticking it out. We also have our first game ending proposal - a FAIR draw. Vote on the draw with Spring orders (Thursday). While Germany still has units, they'll be gone no matter what by Winter. These are also the only retreats. So, If I don't hear from Ray, I'll take the liberty of retreating them myself on Sunday, and then disbanding them on Monday. For the rest of you, get me adjustments for Monday, and Spring moves (and votes) for Thursday.
I was not the only person who was late this season (apologies btw). Please get me prelims so we can keep the game moving at a move-a-week pace!
Map and .dpy file are attached. Please check for errors.
The players:
Austria: Phil <ilovethechiefs(at)gmail.com>
England: Andy <cloudhurler77(at)yahoo.com> *eliminated Winter 1905*
France: Dan <ddz999cat23(at)yahoo.com>
Germany: Ray <mczet99(at)gmail.com> *eliminated Winter 1906*
Italy: Blue <blueinva(at)cox.net>
Russia: John <untitled36(at)yahoo.com>
Turkey: Nathan <ndeily(at)yahoo.com> *eliminated Winter 1904*
Proposal:
FAIR draw.
Orders as received:Austria:
A Moscow Supports A Warsaw - Livonia
A Warsaw - Livonia
A Sevastopol - Armenia
F Constantinople Holds
A Serbia - Greece
A Trieste - Venice
A Tyrolia Supports A Trieste - VeniceA Kiel Holds
A Berlin Supports A Kiel
A Munich Supports A Kiel
France:
F Nat Supp F Iri - Mao
F Eng Supp F Iri - Mao
F Iri - Mao
F Bre Supp F Iri - Mao
A Bel Supp A Nwy - Hol
A Bur Supp A Gas - Mar
A Gas - Mar
Germany:A mar S France A Spain - gascony
A Belgium Hold
Italy:
F Portugal supports F MAO - Spain (sc)F MAO - Spain (sc)
A Spain - TuscanyA Rome - ApuliaA Ankara - Constantinople
F West Med - Tyrhennian SeaF North Africa - Tunis
F Gulf of Lyons convoys A Spain - Tuscany
Russia:
F Denmark - Kiel
A Finland Supports A St Petersburg
F North Sea Convoys A Norway - Holland
A Norway - Holland
A St Petersburg Hold
Orders as adjudicated by RP and me:
Austria: A Berlin Supports A KielF Constantinople HoldA Kiel HoldA Moscow Supports A Warsaw - LivoniaA Munich Supports A KielA Serbia - GreeceA Sevastopol - Armenia
A Trieste - VeniceA Tyrolia Supports A Trieste - VeniceA Warsaw - Livonia
France: A Belgium Supports A Norway - HollandF Brest Supports F Irish Sea - Mid-Atlantic Ocean
A Burgundy Supports A Gascony - MarseillesF English Channel Supports F Irish Sea - Mid-Atlantic OceanA Gascony - MarseillesF Irish Sea - Mid-Atlantic OceanF North Atlantic Ocean Supports F Irish Sea - Mid-Atlantic Ocean
Germany: A Holland Hold (*Dislodged*)A Marseilles Supports A Spain - Gascony (*Dislodged*)
Italy: A Ankara - Constantinople (*Fails*)
F Gulf of Lyon Convoys A Spain - TuscanyF Mid-Atlantic Ocean - Spain(sc)F North Africa - TunisF Portugal Supports F Mid-Atlantic Ocean - Spain(sc)A Rome - ApuliaA Spain - Tuscany
F Western Mediterranean - Tyrrhenian Sea
Russia: F Denmark - Kiel (*Fails*)A Finland Supports A St PetersburgF North Sea Convoys A Norway - Holland
A Norway - HollandA St Petersburg Hold
Retreats:The German army in Holland can retreat to Ruhr or OTB.The German army in Marseilles can retreat to Piedmont or OTB.
Adjustments:Austria: 15 SCs. May build 3.France: 7 SCs. Even.Germany: 0 SCs. Must remove 2, 1, or 0 depending retreats. GM will take care of this.Italy: 7 SCs. Must disband 1.
Russia: 5 SCs. Even.
Deadlines:Autumn 1906 will be adjudicated on Sunday the 15th of August at 9 pm.Winter 1906 will be adjudicated on Monday the 16th of August at 9 pm.
Spring 1907 will be adjudicated on Thursday the 19th of August at 9 pm.
Best,
Mike
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| Next GM? - s2000chops (Aug 16, 2010, 10:11 am) |
Poobaloo -
I'll take the next Standard Game. Incidentally, has anyone made Realpolitik or a similar program for Linux? No worries if not, but it would be convenient.
- Salim[Reply] |
| Next GM? (Community) z93blom Aug 16, 03:59 pm |
Great Salim!
I don't know if RP runs under Linux, but I do believe that jDip would run under Linux, being a Java program.
http://jdip.sourceforge.net/
/Fredrik |
| DC-322 - Dark Ages Revision Thread - Kenshi777 (Aug 15, 2010, 5:26 pm) |
Hi Andy -
You make some good points, and the difficulties (particularly on the Isles) make me inclined to scrap the force-fit to Standard. As for the triangular structure, I am partial to that just because if achieved, one can be almost guaranteed of having a diplomatic aspect to the game. If any two can pair up against the third, with roughly equal odds of success, then the only determining factor should be one's negotiations. That's the ideal dynamic I'm driving for. That said - with 7 players, there is always going to be that added layer of complexity. So I will bear this in mind as I go into revisions.
Speaking of revisions, by all means, no need to wait on them to play or GM another round! Please CC me as an observer -
Thanks!
B.
On Sat, Aug 14, 2010 at 10:24 PM, The White Wolf <cloudhurler77(at)yahoo.com> wrote:
Ben,
I like that you know what you want this variant to be, and that you've been working solidly at it all this time. However, I'm starting to think the analogy you're drawing to Standard may not be completely accurate. More precisely, I don't think your representation of Standard is completely accurate. I agree that the Standard setup is prone to triangles, but I don't think it's a foregone conclusion. I know we've all seen games break in different directions - E/G gunning for R out of the gates, A/T heading straight toward I and ignoring R, A/F squashing I early, etc.
My point is, I think you may be trying to force this variant to be played out like two parallel games with minimal crossover. If you're going to compare it to Standard, maybe you should try to push a little more cross-sea interaction a little earlier on. I believe this would also solve some of the problems you're having on both sides of the board. If the Norse/Scot and Dane/Anglo players had more opportunities to interact in the early game, I'm willing to bet you wouldn't have the same dynamic you do now; the Gaels might have more opportunity to succeed or fail on the player's diplomatic merits instead of the other players' lack of options, the D/N/S dynamic wouldn't be so constant, and so on. I'm not saying you should take this back to the drawing board altogether, but maybe you should reassess some of the fundamentals. Do you want this to play out as two side-by-side games early on?
Another point is that you're trying to draw the Anglo position as an Italy analogue, but I don't think think that's really the case. Sure, they're on the southern tip of the island, but there's a definite divide between their position and those of the Bretons and the Danes, as well as better first year prospects. Italy only realistically has one growth option in 1901, unless he plans on a full-frontal against either France or Austria. At the same time, Italy shares a home dot border with Austria. It's a tricky country to play, but it's balanced by Austria's tough decisions and France's relative distance and inability to field forces toward them in the first year. I think your Scots-as-Italy analogue might be a bit more accurate positionally, but they've got even better growth potential than the Anglos.
Instead of trying to compare Dark Ages to Standard, why not look at this in a completely detached light? This is an amazing variant (don't let it go to your head), and it should be able to stand on it's own feet. You've shown us that, with enough play tests and revisions, any of your maps can make for an excellent variant game (I'm thinking specifically of Sengoku here). Don't let the comparisons to Standard drag this variant in any directions that could be harmful to playability or enjoyability in the long run. Let it grow in a unique direction, and it will stand the test of time beautifully.
Andy
P.S. - I know I keep saying that I want to minimize my Dip obligations, but this is a variant I have a hard time putting down. I'm down to two Dip games at present - if there's enough interest (I doubt there isn't), I'm very wiling to either GM another round or play in one. I think your ability to judge the effectiveness of this revision would be much stronger with more play tests under the game's proverbial belt. One game does not an accurate sampling make. I say we give it another go with different personalities and play styles facing off against each other. Who knows - maybe you'll see a Gael solo or a sweet Swede/Norse draw in the next one?
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From: Benjamin Hester <screwtape777(at)gmail.com>
To: F Bielschowsky <dipcorp.player(at)gmail.com>; The White Wolf <cloudhurler77(at)yahoo.com>; Christopher Martin <dance.scholar(at)gmail.com>; Scott Troemel <brn2dip(at)yahoo.com>; Darren McAdam-OConnell <dmcaoc(at)gmail.com>; DC322 Forum <dc322(at)diplomaticcorp.com>; Mike Morris <mikemorris101(at)yahoo.com>; Steve Emmert <steve.emmert(at)cox.net>
Sent: Sat, August 14, 2010 10:21:55 PM
Subject: DC-322 - Dark Ages Revision Thread [post:17493]
so then, I have to give them more external distractions/more appealing options - close the gap with the Norse perhaps, and boost the spoils in between? Or close the gap between the Anglo-Saxons and the Scots on the coast - and give them more to fight about than Deira? I can't just leave any position with only one clear-cut option for success, and I'm not about to scrap the most successful variant I have
Perhaps the answer is just to make it harder for the Scots and Gaels to fight each other at all - isolate the Scots entirely like Italy in Standard? Low early SC gain opportunity in a neutral direction, then equal odds of entering the fight against the Gaels or the Norse? (who would both be compensated for being on the receiving end of the 7th position wildcard aggression) Currently the Anglo-Saxons fill this role for me, but no reason that the Scots couldn't do it instead.
I really do want to break this game down into two triangles, plus a 7th - which is roughly how i feel Standard usually plays out, with some variance. N/S/D are close to that. I agree that G/C/B never will be - but if I shifted the focus (and spoils) - perhaps G/B/A could be a triangle?
B.
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| DC287 - Fall 2007 reminder - Viper (Aug 15, 2010, 2:47 pm) |
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| dc311 Spring '21 - notasb (Aug 15, 2010, 10:22 am) |
We have 2 End Game Proposals Germany England draw and
Austria England Germany draw. Votes are due with the Spring orders.
Deadline:
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| dc337 - Game of 1900 (game start) - z93blom (Aug 15, 2010, 4:27 am) |
Diplomats,
Some of you have turned in orders, but not all of you. If you do not have a confirmation from me I do not have your orders... There's still 24 hours left in which to turn in your orders before I start a grace period.
/Fredrik
2010/8/8 Fredrik Blom <fredrik(at)familjenblom.se>
Diplomats,
Thank you all for confirming in due order. We're now ready to get this game started. Using random.org's list randomizer I've assigned your countries as follows (using ABFGIRT as the fixed order of countries):
There were 7 items in your list. Here they are in random order:
sunchunghancockfcsmileyrobDrSwordopolisdknemeyerfrankieg
joelat713
Timestamp: 2010-08-08 08:09:42 UTC
ID Country Name Email Location
dknemeyer Italy Dirk Knemeyer dirk(at)knemeyer.com Granville, OH, US
DrSwordopolis Germany Nick Powell nick.s.powell(at)gmail.com BC, CA
frankieg Russia Frank de Vocht fdevocht(at)yahoo.com Manchester, GMANCH, UK
hancockfc Britain Lynn Mercer hancockfc(at)yahoo.com OH, US
joelat713 Turkey Joseph Latvaitis joelat713(at)hotmail.com Peoria, IL, US
smileyrob France robert stein smileyrob68(at)gmai l.com OR, US
sunchung Austria Sun Chung sun.chung(at)gmail.com CA, US
The game is run by corresponding directly to each other by email. All ordersets should be sent to me before the due date. I strongly encourage you all to send in preliminary ordersets - I try to confirm all received ordersets within 24 hours.
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Here you can always see when the next orders are due, look up the supply center charts, etc.
We'll also have a forum set up. All the adjudications will be copied there - you're also free to publish open information on the forum. I'll make sure that the forum is set up in the next few days...
If there are any questions - do not hesitate to send them to me.
Make my life easier:I would appreciate if your subject line on mail to me includes the following information:dc337 - {Country} {Season}
Next turn: Spring 1900 MovesNext Deadline: Monday, 16th of August 2010, 18:00 GMT (6PM).
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| DC-322 - Dark Ages Revision Thread - TheWhiteWolf (Aug 14, 2010, 10:24 pm) |
Ben, I like that you know what you want this variant to be, and that you've been working solidly at it all this time. However, I'm starting to think the analogy you're drawing to Standard may not be completely accurate. More precisely, I don't think your representation of Standard is completely accurate. I agree that the Standard setup is prone to triangles, but I don't think it's a foregone conclusion. I know we've all seen games break in different directions - E/G gunning for R out of the gates, A/T heading straight toward I and ignoring R, A/F squashing I early, etc. My point is, I think you may be trying to force this variant to be played out like two parallel games with minimal crossover. If you're going to compare it to
Standard, maybe you should try to push a little more cross-sea interaction a little earlier on. I believe this would also solve some of the problems you're having on both sides of the board. If the Norse/Scot and Dane/Anglo players had more opportunities to interact in the early game, I'm willing to bet you wouldn't have the same dynamic you do now; the Gaels might have more opportunity to succeed or fail on the player's diplomatic merits instead of the other players' lack of options, the D/N/S dynamic wouldn't be so constant, and so on. I'm not saying you should take this back to the drawing board altogether, but maybe you should reassess some of the fundamentals. Do you want this to play out as two side-by-side games early on? Another point is that you're trying to draw the Anglo position as an Italy analogue, but I don't think think that's really the case. Sure, they're on the southern tip of the island, but there's a definite
divide between their position and those of the Bretons and the Danes, as well as better first year prospects. Italy only realistically has one growth option in 1901, unless he plans on a full-frontal against either France or Austria. At the same time, Italy shares a home dot border with Austria. It's a tricky country to play, but it's balanced by Austria's tough decisions and France's relative distance and inability to field forces toward them in the first year. I think your Scots-as-Italy analogue might be a bit more accurate positionally, but they've got even better growth potential than the Anglos. Instead of trying to compare Dark Ages to Standard, why not look at this in a completely detached light? This is an amazing variant (don't let it go to your head), and it should be able to stand on it's own feet. You've shown us that, with enough play tests and revisions, any of your maps can make for an excellent variant game (I'm
thinking specifically of Sengoku here). Don't let the comparisons to Standard drag this variant in any directions that could be harmful to playability or enjoyability in the long run. Let it grow in a unique direction, and it will stand the test of time beautifully.
Andy
P.S. - I know I keep saying that I want to minimize my Dip obligations, but this is a variant I have a hard time putting down. I'm down to two Dip games at present - if there's enough interest (I doubt there isn't), I'm very wiling to either GM another round or play in one. I think your ability to judge the effectiveness of this revision would be much stronger with more play tests under the game's proverbial belt. One game does not an accurate sampling make. I say we give it another go with different personalities and play styles facing off against each other. Who knows - maybe you'll see a Gael solo or a sweet Swede/Norse draw in the
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From: Benjamin Hester <screwtape777(at)gmail.com>
To: F Bielschowsky <dipcorp.player(at)gmail.com>; The White Wolf <cloudhurler77(at)yahoo.com>; Christopher Martin <dance.scholar(at)gmail.com>; Scott Troemel <brn2dip(at)yahoo.com>; Darren McAdam-OConnell <dmcaoc(at)gmail.com>; DC322 Forum <dc322(at)diplomaticcorp.com>; Mike Morris <mikemorris101(at)yahoo.com>; Steve Emmert <steve.emmert(at)cox.net>
Sent: Sat, August 14, 2010 10:21:55 PM
Subject: DC-322 - Dark Ages Revision Thread [post:17493]
so then, I have to give them more external distractions/more appealing options - close the gap with the Norse perhaps, and boost the spoils in between? Or close the gap between the Anglo-Saxons and the Scots on the coast - and give them more to fight about than Deira? I can't just leave any position with only one clear-cut option for success, and I'm not about to scrap the most successful variant I have
Perhaps the answer is just to make it harder for the Scots and Gaels to fight each other at all - isolate the Scots entirely like Italy in Standard? Low early SC gain opportunity in a neutral direction, then equal odds of entering the fight against the Gaels or the Norse? (who would both be compensated for being on the receiving end of the 7th position wildcard aggression) Currently the Anglo-Saxons fill this role for me, but no reason that the Scots couldn't do it instead.
I really do want to break this game down into two triangles, plus a 7th - which is roughly how i feel Standard usually plays out, with some variance. N/S/D are close to that. I agree that G/C/B never will be - but if I shifted the focus (and spoils) - perhaps G/B/A could be a triangle?
B.[Reply] |
| DC-322 - Dark Ages Revision Thread - Kenshi777 (Aug 14, 2010, 9:21 pm) |
so then, I have to give them more external distractions/more appealing options - close the gap with the Norse perhaps, and boost the spoils in between? Or close the gap between the Anglo-Saxons and the Scots on the coast - and give them more to fight about than Deira? I can't just leave any position with only one clear-cut option for success, and I'm not about to scrap the most successful variant I have
Perhaps the answer is just to make it harder for the Scots and Gaels to fight each other at all - isolate the Scots entirely like Italy in Standard? Low early SC gain opportunity in a neutral direction, then equal odds of entering the fight against the Gaels or the Norse? (who would both be compensated for being on the receiving end of the 7th position wildcard aggression) Currently the Anglo-Saxons fill this role for me, but no reason that the Scots couldn't do it instead.
I really do want to break this game down into two triangles, plus a 7th - which is roughly how i feel Standard usually plays out, with some variance. N/S/D are close to that. I agree that G/C/B never will be - but if I shifted the focus (and spoils) - perhaps G/B/A could be a triangle?
B.
On Sat, Aug 14, 2010 at 9:07 PM, <dc322(at)diplomaticcorp.com> wrote:
Packrat posted in dc322. The message was...
The short answer to the geal/scot question is - you can't. The Scots have more to gain
by convincing the anglos and bretons to fight while the scots go after the gaels. That is the
best way to play the whole thing since the gaels have to go around any one of, if not even
all of, them in order to get to the east. I'll look it over some more, but I think it's a matter
of geography more than anything else. The three dots are just too tempting while the east
is sorting itself out. You can choke the center of the island too easily and that more or less
forces war in the south.
That being said, if I had played a bit more conservatively it might have gone better for me,
but either way, I think the scots will always hit the
gaels.
From: Benjamin Hester <screwtape777(at)gmail.com>
To: F Bielschowsky <dipcorp.player(at)gmail.com>
Cc: The White Wolf <cloudhurler77(at)yahoo.com>; Christopher Martin <dance.scholar(at)gmail.com>; Scott Troemel <brn2dip(at)yahoo.com>; Darren McAdam-OConnell <dmcaoc(at)gmail.com>; DC322 Forum <dc322(at)diplomaticcorp.com>; Mike Morris <mikemorris101(at)yahoo.com>; Steve Emmert <steve.emmert(at)cox.net>
Sent: Sat, August 14, 2010 7:55:41 PM
Subject: DC-322 - Dark
Ages Revision Thread
Here we go - I have found that this process works best if we all focus on the same list of points to discuss, rather than free-form. That said, feel free to add new points to the list!
Fundamental assumptions of the variant:
1 - Crossing the North Sea is an option in the early game, not a requirement to win. There are 19 SCs on the British Isles + Zetland, and there are 19 SC in Scandinvia, the Continent, and Zetland. So pairing up with a good ally to make the jump to the other side is meant to be a viable option. So is trying to win it all with ruthless stabs in your own backyard. Which one is best should be determined by how fast development is occuring on the other side.
2 - the prevalence of coastal SCs means that fleets should be favored over armies. I have heard this assumption strongly challenged already, and would like to hear more detail please.
Specifics -
Does the new Eider river canal let the Norse and Swedes have a lasting alliance?
Lindholm is a key early gain that the Norse in particular have to consider going for, as they tend to be more SC starved than the Danes or Swedes in the first year? (True or False - should the Danes consider allowing this to happen, or too risky?)
How should I fix the Anglo-Saxon / Briton border so that conflict is not so inevitable?
How can I make the Scots and Gaels at least have a good peace option, if not an active alliance aimed at a third party?
Some of this Frank, Chris, and Scott have already touched in in their remarks, please review those emails as well!
Thanks!
B.
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| DC-322 - Dark Ages Revision Thread - Kenshi777 (Aug 14, 2010, 9:21 pm) |
so then, I have to give them more external distractions/more appealing options - close the gap with the Norse perhaps, and boost the spoils in between? Or close the gap between the Anglo-Saxons and the Scots on the coast - and give them more to fight about than Deira? I can't just leave any position with only one clear-cut option for success, and I'm not about to scrap the most successful variant I have
Perhaps the answer is just to make it harder for the Scots and Gaels to fight each other at all - isolate the Scots entirely like Italy in Standard? Low early SC gain opportunity in a neutral direction, then equal odds of entering the fight against the Gaels or the Norse? (who would both be compensated for being on the receiving end of the 7th position wildcard aggression) Currently the Anglo-Saxons fill this role for me, but no reason that the Scots couldn't do it instead.
I really do want to break this game down into two triangles, plus a 7th - which is roughly how i feel Standard usually plays out, with some variance. N/S/D are close to that. I agree that G/C/B never will be - but if I shifted the focus (and spoils) - perhaps G/B/A could be a triangle?
B.
On Sat, Aug 14, 2010 at 9:07 PM, <dc322(at)diplomaticcorp.com> wrote:
Packrat posted in dc322. The message was...
The short answer to the geal/scot question is - you can't. The Scots have more to gain
by convincing the anglos and bretons to fight while the scots go after the gaels. That is the
best way to play the whole thing since the gaels have to go around any one of, if not even
all of, them in order to get to the east. I'll look it over some more, but I think it's a matter
of geography more than anything else. The three dots are just too tempting while the east
is sorting itself out. You can choke the center of the island too easily and that more or less
forces war in the south.
That being said, if I had played a bit more conservatively it might have gone better for me,
but either way, I think the scots will always hit the
gaels.
From: Benjamin Hester <screwtape777(at)gmail.com>
To: F Bielschowsky <dipcorp.player(at)gmail.com>
Cc: The White Wolf <cloudhurler77(at)yahoo.com>; Christopher Martin <dance.scholar(at)gmail.com>; Scott Troemel <brn2dip(at)yahoo.com>; Darren McAdam-OConnell <dmcaoc(at)gmail.com>; DC322 Forum <dc322(at)diplomaticcorp.com>; Mike Morris <mikemorris101(at)yahoo.com>; Steve Emmert <steve.emmert(at)cox.net>
Sent: Sat, August 14, 2010 7:55:41 PM
Subject: DC-322 - Dark
Ages Revision Thread
Here we go - I have found that this process works best if we all focus on the same list of points to discuss, rather than free-form. That said, feel free to add new points to the list!
Fundamental assumptions of the variant:
1 - Crossing the North Sea is an option in the early game, not a requirement to win. There are 19 SCs on the British Isles + Zetland, and there are 19 SC in Scandinvia, the Continent, and Zetland. So pairing up with a good ally to make the jump to the other side is meant to be a viable option. So is trying to win it all with ruthless stabs in your own backyard. Which one is best should be determined by how fast development is occuring on the other side.
2 - the prevalence of coastal SCs means that fleets should be favored over armies. I have heard this assumption strongly challenged already, and would like to hear more detail please.
Specifics -
Does the new Eider river canal let the Norse and Swedes have a lasting alliance?
Lindholm is a key early gain that the Norse in particular have to consider going for, as they tend to be more SC starved than the Danes or Swedes in the first year? (True or False - should the Danes consider allowing this to happen, or too risky?)
How should I fix the Anglo-Saxon / Briton border so that conflict is not so inevitable?
How can I make the Scots and Gaels at least have a good peace option, if not an active alliance aimed at a third party?
Some of this Frank, Chris, and Scott have already touched in in their remarks, please review those emails as well!
Thanks!
B.
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