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DC317; Spring 1910 Results - Nigs   (Jun 01, 2010, 2:41 am)
Spring Bank holiday here in the UK - a low key public holiday, which grew out of factory holidays for Whit Monday.
Mostly seems to involve gardening and barbecues.
Nigs

Date: Mon, 31 May 2010 23:19:54 -0700
From: brn2dip(at)yahoo.com
Subject: Re: DC317; Spring 1910 Results
To: dipknight(at)gmail.com; douglasefresh(at)gmail.com; olson.gregoryscott(at)gmail.com; dadidea(at)gmail.com; MDemagogue(at)gmail.com; nephilli99(at)hotmail.com; phantomas13(at)orange.fr
CC: blitz(at)diplomaticcorp.com; dc317(at)diplomaticcorp.com



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Sorry  - MEMORIAL DAY here in the states.



I'm still here though -
From: Darryl Good <dipknight(at)gmail.com>
To: douglasefresh(at)gmail.com; olson.gregoryscott(at)gmail.com; dadidea(at)gmail.com; MDemagogue(at)gmail.com; nephilli99(at)hotmail.com; brn2dip(at)yahoo.com; phantomas13(at)orange.fr
Cc: blitz(at)diplomaticcorp.com; dc317(at)diplomaticcorp.com
Sent: Mon, May 31, 2010 10:02:52 PM
Subject: DC317; Spring 1910 Results


GM's remarks:
 
France and Italy NMR; Scott, Greg, you guys still with us?  Please drop me an email and let me know.  Thanks.
 
The Players:
   Austria         Eliminated Winter 1904
   England       Eliminated Winter 1905
   France          packrat                     scott troemel         brn2dip(at)yahoo.com  
   Germany      Douglas_E_Fresh   Douglas Fresh       douglasefresh(at)gmail.com
   Italy             evapollo88              Greg Olson           olson.gregoryscott(at)gmail.com  
   Russia          Nigs                         Nigel Phillips         nephilli99(at)hotmail.com
   Turkey          Eliminated Winter 1906
 
The Orders:
Austria:
   Eliminated Winter 1904
 
England:
   Eliminated Winter 1905
 
France:
   F cly, no move received
   F lon, no move received
 
Germany:
   A bel Hold
   A boh Supports A kie - mun
   A den Hold
   F edi Supports F yor - nth
   A hol Supports A bel
   A kie - mun
   A ruh Supports A bel
 
Italy:
   F adr, no move received
   F aeg, no move received
   A bur, no move received
   F eas, no move received
   A gre, no move received (*Disbanded*)
   F nao, no move received
   F nth, no move received (*Dislodged*)
   A pic, no move received
   A pie, no move received
   A ven, no move received
 
Russia:
   A arm Supports A con - smy (*Fails*)
   F bla - con (*Fails*)
   A bud - tri
   F bul(sc) - gre
   A con - smy (*Fails*)
   A mos - stp
   F nwy Supports F yor - nth
   A rum - bul
   A ser Supports F bul(sc) - gre
   F smy - aeg (*Fails*)
   F stp(nc) - bar
   A swe Hold
   A tri - alb
   A vie Supports A bud - tri
   F yor - nth
 
Turkey:
   Eliminated Winter 1906
 
Retreats:
   Italian F North Sea can retreat to Norwegian Sea, Skagerrak, Helgoland Blight, English Channel or OTB.
 
Centers and Unit Positions:
Austria:
   Eliminated Winter 1904
 
England:
   Eliminated Winter 1905
 
France:
   Centers (2) lvp, lon.
   Units: F cly, F lon
   Build/Disband:  0
           
Germany:
   Centers (7): bel, ber, den, edi, hol, kie, mun.
   Units: A bel, A boh, A den, F edi, A hol, A mun, A ruh
   Build/Disbands: 0
 
Italy:
   Centers (10) bre, gre, mar, nap, par, por, rom, spa, tun, ven.
   Units: F adr, F aeg, A bur, F eas, F nao, A pic, A pie, A ven
   Build/Disband:  +1
           
Russia:
   Centers (15) ank, bud, bul, con, mos, nwy, rum, ser, sev, smy, stp, swe, tri, vie, war.
   Units: A alb, A arm, F bar, F bla, A bul, A con, F gre, F nth, F nwy, A ser, F smy, A stp, A swe, A tri, A vie
   Build/Disband:  0
 
Turkey:
   Eliminated Winter 1906
 
Deadline:
1910 Summer Retreat Orders: Tuesday; June 1, 24:00 Hrs GMT.
 
Maps of the Orders and Results; and, the dpy file are attached for your use.

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DC317; Spring 1910 Results - packrat   (Jun 01, 2010, 1:19 am)
Sorry  - MEMORIAL DAY here in the states.



I'm still here though -
From: Darryl Good <dipknight(at)gmail.com>
To: douglasefresh(at)gmail.com; olson.gregoryscott(at)gmail.com; dadidea(at)gmail.com; MDemagogue(at)gmail.com; nephilli99(at)hotmail.com; brn2dip(at)yahoo.com; phantomas13(at)orange.fr
Cc: blitz(at)diplomaticcorp.com; dc317(at)diplomaticcorp.com
Sent: Mon, May 31, 2010 10:02:52 PM
Subject: DC317; Spring 1910 Results


GM???s remarks:
 
France and Italy NMR; Scott, Greg, you guys still with us?  Please drop me an email and let me know.  Thanks.

 
The Players:
   Austria         Eliminated Winter 1904
   England       Eliminated Winter 1905
   France          packrat                     scott troemel         brn2dip(at)yahoo.com  

   Germany      Douglas_E_Fresh   Douglas Fresh       douglasefresh(at)gmail.com

   Italy             evapollo88              Greg Olson           olson.gregoryscott(at)gmail.com  

   Russia          Nigs                         Nigel Phillips         nephilli99(at)hotmail.com

   Turkey          Eliminated Winter 1906

 
The Orders:
Austria:
   Eliminated Winter 1904
 
England:
   Eliminated Winter 1905
 
France:
   F cly, no move received
   F lon, no move received
 
Germany:
   A bel Hold
   A boh Supports A kie - mun
   A den Hold
   F edi Supports F yor - nth
   A hol Supports A bel
   A kie - mun
   A ruh Supports A bel
 
Italy:
   F adr, no move received
   F aeg, no move received
   A bur, no move received
   F eas, no move received
   A gre, no move received (*Disbanded*)
   F nao, no move received
   F nth, no move received (*Dislodged*)
   A pic, no move received
   A pie, no move received
   A ven, no move received
 
Russia:
   A arm Supports A con - smy (*Fails*)
   F bla - con (*Fails*)
   A bud - tri
   F bul(sc) - gre
   A con - smy (*Fails*)
   A mos - stp
   F nwy Supports F yor - nth
   A rum - bul
   A ser Supports F bul(sc) - gre
   F smy - aeg (*Fails*)
   F stp(nc) - bar
   A swe Hold
   A tri - alb
   A vie Supports A bud - tri
   F yor - nth
 
Turkey:
   Eliminated Winter 1906
 
Retreats:
   Italian F North Sea can retreat to Norwegian Sea, Skagerrak, Helgoland Blight, English Channel or OTB.

 
Centers and Unit Positions:
Austria:
   Eliminated Winter 1904
 
England:
   Eliminated Winter 1905
 
France:
   Centers (2) lvp, lon.
   Units: F cly, F lon
   Build/Disband:  0
           
Germany:
   Centers (7): bel, ber, den, edi, hol, kie, mun.
   Units: A bel, A boh, A den, F edi, A hol, A mun, A ruh
   Build/Disbands: 0
 
Italy:
   Centers (10) bre, gre, mar, nap, par, por, rom, spa, tun, ven.
   Units: F adr, F aeg, A bur, F eas, F nao, A pic, A pie, A ven
   Build/Disband:  +1
           
Russia:
   Centers (15) ank, bud, bul, con, mos, nwy, rum, ser, sev, smy, stp, swe, tri, vie, war.

   Units: A alb, A arm, F bar, F bla, A bul, A con, F gre, F nth, F nwy, A ser, F smy, A stp, A swe, A tri, A vie

   Build/Disband:  0
 
Turkey:
   Eliminated Winter 1906
 
Deadline:
1910 Summer Retreat Orders: Tuesday; June 1, 24:00 Hrs GMT.
 
Maps of the Orders and Results; and, the dpy file are attached for your use.

[Reply]

DC287 - Winter 2004 - Viper   (Jun 01, 2010, 12:25 am)
Of course, by "May" I meant "June."  The next deadline did not happen in the past.

On Tue, Jun 1, 2010 at 12:23 AM, Diplomacy Gamemaster <worldwidegm(at)gmail.com> wrote:

OK, so here are everyone's adjustments for Winter 2004.  Now, I had to make a call on which happens first between building and trading home centres.  I went with the builds/disbands happening first, so that's why you can see Russia having built in Helsinki and then the star moves into Europe.  Note that the other European stars have disappeared.


Quebec:
Build A Havana
Build F Halifax

Mexico:
Disband A Mexico City

Amazon:
Disband F Gulf of Guinea

Russia:
Build F Oslo
Build A Helsinki

Sahara:
Build F Casablanca


Congo:
Build F Kinshasa

Persia:

No Adjustment Needed

China:
Disband F Jayapura
Disband F East China Sea
Disband F Sea of Japan

Oceania:
Build F Sydney

Note: Russia trades his home centres Nizhniy-Novgorod and Helsinki for the formerly European home centres Paris and Zagreb.


Next Deadline:
Spring 2005 deadline will be Friday, May 4, at 1pm CDT.  After that we'll have to take a little while off because I'll be away from home again (this time in Hamilton).

[Reply]

DC287 - Winter 2004 - Viper   (Jun 01, 2010, 12:23 am)
OK, so here are everyone's adjustments for Winter 2004.  Now, I had to make a call on which happens first between building and trading home centres.  I went with the builds/disbands happening first, so that's why you can see Russia having built in Helsinki and then the star moves into Europe.  Note that the other European stars have disappeared.


Quebec:
Build A Havana
Build F Halifax

Mexico:
Disband A Mexico City

Amazon:
Disband F Gulf of Guinea

Russia:
Build F Oslo
Build A Helsinki

Sahara:
Build F Casablanca


Congo:
Build F Kinshasa

Persia:

No Adjustment Needed

China:
Disband F Jayapura
Disband F East China Sea
Disband F Sea of Japan

Oceania:
Build F Sydney

Note: Russia trades his home centres Nizhniy-Novgorod and Helsinki for the formerly European home centres Paris and Zagreb.


Next Deadline:
Spring 2005 deadline will be Friday, May 4, at 1pm CDT.  After that we'll have to take a little while off because I'll be away from home again (this time in Hamilton).

[Reply]

DC287 - Winter 2004 (dc287) Viper Jun 01, 12:25 am
Of course, by "May" I meant "June."  The next deadline did not happen in the past.

On Tue, Jun 1, 2010 at 12:23 AM, Diplomacy Gamemaster <worldwidegm(at)gmail.com> wrote:

OK, so here are everyone's adjustments for Winter 2004.  Now, I had to make a call on which happens first between building and trading home centres.  I went with the builds/disbands happening first, so that's why you can see Russia having built in Helsinki and then the star moves into Europe.  Note that the other European stars have disappeared.


Quebec:
Build A Havana
Build F Halifax

Mexico:
Disband A Mexico City

Amazon:
Disband F Gulf of Guinea

Russia:
Build F Oslo
Build A Helsinki

Sahara:
Build F Casablanca


Congo:
Build F Kinshasa

Persia:

No Adjustment Needed

China:
Disband F Jayapura
Disband F East China Sea
Disband F Sea of Japan

Oceania:
Build F Sydney

Note: Russia trades his home centres Nizhniy-Novgorod and Helsinki for the formerly European home centres Paris and Zagreb.


Next Deadline:
Spring 2005 deadline will be Friday, May 4, at 1pm CDT.  After that we'll have to take a little while off because I'll be away from home again (this time in Hamilton).
DC317; Spring 1910 Results - evapollo88   (May 31, 2010, 11:33 pm)
I'm still here. I guess I talk a bigger game than I play in terms of not giving up. I let my college graduation and moving day get in the way of the most frustrating game of Diplomacy I have ever played. Sorry for the lapse, everyone. 

- Greg

On Mon, May 31, 2010 at 10:02 PM, Darryl Good <dipknight(at)gmail.com> wrote:

GM's remarks:
 
France and Italy NMR; Scott, Greg, you guys still with us?  Please drop me an email and let me know.  Thanks.

 
The Players:
   Austria         Eliminated Winter 1904
   England       Eliminated Winter 1905
   France          packrat                     scott troemel         brn2dip(at)yahoo.com  

   Germany      Douglas_E_Fresh   Douglas Fresh       douglasefresh(at)gmail.com

   Italy             evapollo88              Greg Olson           olson.gregoryscott(at)gmail.com  

   Russia          Nigs                         Nigel Phillips         nephilli99(at)hotmail.com

   Turkey          Eliminated Winter 1906

 
The Orders:
Austria:
   Eliminated Winter 1904
 
England:
   Eliminated Winter 1905
 
France:
   F cly, no move received
   F lon, no move received
 
Germany:
   A bel Hold
   A boh Supports A kie - mun
   A den Hold
   F edi Supports F yor - nth
   A hol Supports A bel
   A kie - mun
   A ruh Supports A bel
 
Italy:
   F adr, no move received
   F aeg, no move received
   A bur, no move received
   F eas, no move received
   A gre, no move received (*Disbanded*)
   F nao, no move received
   F nth, no move received (*Dislodged*)
   A pic, no move received
   A pie, no move received
   A ven, no move received
 
Russia:
   A arm Supports A con - smy (*Fails*)
   F bla - con (*Fails*)
   A bud - tri
   F bul(sc) - gre
   A con - smy (*Fails*)
   A mos - stp
   F nwy Supports F yor - nth
   A rum - bul
   A ser Supports F bul(sc) - gre
   F smy - aeg (*Fails*)
   F stp(nc) - bar
   A swe Hold
   A tri - alb
   A vie Supports A bud - tri
   F yor - nth
 
Turkey:
   Eliminated Winter 1906
 
Retreats:
   Italian F North Sea can retreat to Norwegian Sea, Skagerrak, Helgoland Blight, English Channel or OTB.

 
Centers and Unit Positions:
Austria:
   Eliminated Winter 1904
 
England:
   Eliminated Winter 1905
 
France:
   Centers (2) lvp, lon.
   Units: F cly, F lon
   Build/Disband:  0
           
Germany:
   Centers (7): bel, ber, den, edi, hol, kie, mun.
   Units: A bel, A boh, A den, F edi, A hol, A mun, A ruh
   Build/Disbands: 0
 
Italy:
   Centers (10) bre, gre, mar, nap, par, por, rom, spa, tun, ven.
   Units: F adr, F aeg, A bur, F eas, F nao, A pic, A pie, A ven
   Build/Disband:  +1
           
Russia:
   Centers (15) ank, bud, bul, con, mos, nwy, rum, ser, sev, smy, stp, swe, tri, vie, war.

   Units: A alb, A arm, F bar, F bla, A bul, A con, F gre, F nth, F nwy, A ser, F smy, A stp, A swe, A tri, A vie

   Build/Disband:  0
 
Turkey:
   Eliminated Winter 1906
 
Deadline:
1910 Summer Retreat Orders: Tuesday; June 1, 24:00 Hrs GMT.
 
Maps of the Orders and Results; and, the dpy file are attached for your use.

[Reply]

dc311 Spring '10 Results - catsfather   (May 31, 2010, 11:26 pm)
Ah.  One of those emails you wake the next morning and regret sending.



I apologise to everyone, but especially to Christine, to Ray, and to
Dirk.  Hopefully we can all move towards this game's conclusion without
my mistake being a problem.



Hamish



On 31/05/10 21:38, Hamish Williams wrote:
Dear Austria, dear Germany, there are times when lying serves a
purpose. One, or both of you has won this game. I give you that. But
the pair of you do seem to lie just out of habit. No gain, but you need
to lie.



Sev - arm?  Even if you'd got it it'd be no use. 



Everything - bul? I told you I've given up on the game and the
dots are yours. Why try a clearly pointless move to get one a year
early?


On 31 May 2010, at 21:07, GM Christine <dawench(at)hotmail.com> wrote:





Austria - Bruce Ray

England - Daniel Dzikowicz

France - Nick Powell

Germany - Dirk Knemeyer

Italy - Jason K

Russia - Paul Russell

Turkey - Hamish Williams



GM Notes:



Austria & Germany Draw proposal fails.



An Austrian Solo has been proposed, votes are due with the Fall orders.



Deadline:



Fall '10 is due Thursday June 3rd 2 PM CDST  (GMT -5)  1900 GMT



Map:



http://home.comcast.net/~dawench/311/31110Spring.gif



Orders and Results:



Austria:

F Adriatic Sea - Ionian Sea

A Greece - Bulgaria (*Fails*)

A Naples - Apulia

A Rumania Supports A Greece - Bulgaria

A Serbia Supports A Greece - Bulgaria

F Trieste - Albania

A Tyrolia Supports A Venice - Piedmont

F Tyrrhenian Sea - Western Mediterranean

A Venice - Piedmont



England:

F English Channel Supports F Helgoland Bight - North Sea

F Gulf of Lyon - Spain(sc)

F Helgoland Bight - North Sea

A Marseilles Supports F Gulf of Lyon - Spain(sc)

F North Sea - Norwegian Sea

A Norway Supports F Skagerrak - Sweden (*Cut*)

F Skagerrak - Sweden (*Disbanded*)

F Spain(sc) - Mid-Atlantic Ocean



Germany:

F Baltic Sea Supports F Denmark

A Belgium - Picardy

F Berlin - Kiel

A Brest Hold

F Denmark Supports F Sweden - Skagerrak

A Gascony Supports A Munich - Burgundy

F Holland - North Sea (*Fails*)

A Kiel - Ruhr

A Moscow - Sevastopol (*Fails*)

A Munich - Burgundy

A Sevastopol - Armenia (*Fails*)

A St Petersburg - Norway (*Fails*)

F Sweden - Skagerrak



Turkey:

F Aegean Sea Supports A Bulgaria

F Armenia Hold

A Bulgaria Hold

A Constantinople Supports A Bulgaria



Forced Disband:



English F Skagerrak has no retreats, disbanded.



------------



Experience is a wonderful thing.
It enables you to recognize a mistake when you make it again.












The New Busy think 9 to 5 is a cute idea. Combine multiple
calendars with Hotmail. Get busy.

[Reply]

Dc 315: Spring 1910 Adjudication - AlanRFarrington   (May 31, 2010, 9:12 pm)
Hey Everyone


Another failed draw vote.  No retreats we'll move into Fall.




Next
Deadline:
Fall 1910 is due Thursday, June 3rd at Midnight
GMT (7:00pm EST)



Orders:

Austria:
A Albania - Greece
A Budapest Supports A Vienna
A Serbia Supports A Rumania
A Trieste Supports A Vienna
A Vienna Supports A Budapest

England:
A Bohemia - Silesia
F Brest Supports F North Atlantic Ocean - Mid-Atlantic Ocean
A Burgundy - Marseilles (*Bounce*)
F Denmark - North Sea
F English Channel Supports F Irish Sea
A Galicia - Ukraine (*Fails*)
F Irish Sea Supports F English Channel
F Liverpool Supports F London - Wales
F London - Wales
A Munich, no move received
F North Atlantic Ocean - Mid-Atlantic Ocean (*Fails*)
A Picardy Supports F Brest
A Tyrolia - Bohemia
A Ukraine - Moscow
A Warsaw Supports A Ukraine - Moscow

France:
F Mid-Atlantic Ocean Supports A Paris - Gascony (*Cut*)
F North Africa Supports F Mid-Atlantic Ocean
A Paris - Gascony
A Piedmont - Marseilles (*Bounce*)
F Spain(sc), no move received
A Venice - Tyrolia
F Wales Hold (*Disbanded*)
F Western Mediterranean Supports F Mid-Atlantic Ocean

Turkey:
A Armenia - Sevastopol
F Black Sea Supports A Armenia - Sevastopol
A Bulgaria Supports A Rumania
A Rumania Supports A Sevastopol - Ukraine
A Sevastopol - Ukraine
F Smyrna - Aegean Sea



Players:


Austria:
Jonathan Nichol  ( jonathan(at)deepsheep.com )


England: Derek Eiler (
derekthefeared2(at)yahoo.com )


France: Maria Montes (
MariaMontes1990(at)hotmail.es )


Germany: Joe Payne ( josepayne(at)gmail.com
)                  [  Eliminated  ]


Italy: John Robillard ( john.robillard(at)telia.com )                [ 
Eliminated  ]


Russia: Max
Victory ( Maxatrest(at)yahoo.co.uk )                [  Eliminated  ]


Turkey: Dale Grantham (
dmg(at)earthlink.net )





Thanks guys,

Alan Farrington



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DC317; Spring 1910 Results - dipknight   (May 31, 2010, 9:02 pm)
GM's remarks:
 
France and Italy NMR; Scott, Greg, you guys still with us?  Please drop me an email and let me know.  Thanks.
 
The Players:
   Austria         Eliminated Winter 1904
   England       Eliminated Winter 1905
   France          packrat                     scott troemel         brn2dip(at)yahoo.com  
   Germany      Douglas_E_Fresh   Douglas Fresh       douglasefresh(at)gmail.com
   Italy             evapollo88              Greg Olson           olson.gregoryscott(at)gmail.com  
   Russia          Nigs                         Nigel Phillips         nephilli99(at)hotmail.com
   Turkey          Eliminated Winter 1906
 
The Orders:
Austria:
   Eliminated Winter 1904
 
England:
   Eliminated Winter 1905
 
France:
   F cly, no move received
   F lon, no move received
 
Germany:
   A bel Hold
   A boh Supports A kie - mun
   A den Hold
   F edi Supports F yor - nth
   A hol Supports A bel
   A kie - mun
   A ruh Supports A bel
 
Italy:
   F adr, no move received
   F aeg, no move received
   A bur, no move received
   F eas, no move received
   A gre, no move received (*Disbanded*)
   F nao, no move received
   F nth, no move received (*Dislodged*)
   A pic, no move received
   A pie, no move received
   A ven, no move received
 
Russia:
   A arm Supports A con - smy (*Fails*)
   F bla - con (*Fails*)
   A bud - tri
   F bul(sc) - gre
   A con - smy (*Fails*)
   A mos - stp
   F nwy Supports F yor - nth
   A rum - bul
   A ser Supports F bul(sc) - gre
   F smy - aeg (*Fails*)
   F stp(nc) - bar
   A swe Hold
   A tri - alb
   A vie Supports A bud - tri
   F yor - nth
 
Turkey:
   Eliminated Winter 1906
 
Retreats:
   Italian F North Sea can retreat to Norwegian Sea, Skagerrak, Helgoland Blight, English Channel or OTB.
 
Centers and Unit Positions:
Austria:
   Eliminated Winter 1904
 
England:
   Eliminated Winter 1905
 
France:
   Centers (2) lvp, lon.
   Units: F cly, F lon
   Build/Disband:  0
           
Germany:
   Centers (7): bel, ber, den, edi, hol, kie, mun.
   Units: A bel, A boh, A den, F edi, A hol, A mun, A ruh
   Build/Disbands: 0
 
Italy:
   Centers (10) bre, gre, mar, nap, par, por, rom, spa, tun, ven.
   Units: F adr, F aeg, A bur, F eas, F nao, A pic, A pie, A ven
   Build/Disband:  +1
           
Russia:
   Centers (15) ank, bud, bul, con, mos, nwy, rum, ser, sev, smy, stp, swe, tri, vie, war.
   Units: A alb, A arm, F bar, F bla, A bul, A con, F gre, F nth, F nwy, A ser, F smy, A stp, A swe, A tri, A vie
   Build/Disband:  0
 
Turkey:
   Eliminated Winter 1906
 
Deadline:
1910 Summer Retreat Orders: Tuesday; June 1, 24:00 Hrs GMT.
 
Maps of the Orders and Results; and, the dpy file are attached for your use.

[Reply]

DC317; Spring 1910 Results (Winter Blitz) evapollo88 May 31, 11:33 pm
I'm still here. I guess I talk a bigger game than I play in terms of not giving up. I let my college graduation and moving day get in the way of the most frustrating game of Diplomacy I have ever played. Sorry for the lapse, everyone. 

- Greg

On Mon, May 31, 2010 at 10:02 PM, Darryl Good <dipknight(at)gmail.com> wrote:

GM's remarks:
 
France and Italy NMR; Scott, Greg, you guys still with us?  Please drop me an email and let me know.  Thanks.

 
The Players:
   Austria         Eliminated Winter 1904
   England       Eliminated Winter 1905
   France          packrat                     scott troemel         brn2dip(at)yahoo.com  

   Germany      Douglas_E_Fresh   Douglas Fresh       douglasefresh(at)gmail.com

   Italy             evapollo88              Greg Olson           olson.gregoryscott(at)gmail.com  

   Russia          Nigs                         Nigel Phillips         nephilli99(at)hotmail.com

   Turkey          Eliminated Winter 1906

 
The Orders:
Austria:
   Eliminated Winter 1904
 
England:
   Eliminated Winter 1905
 
France:
   F cly, no move received
   F lon, no move received
 
Germany:
   A bel Hold
   A boh Supports A kie - mun
   A den Hold
   F edi Supports F yor - nth
   A hol Supports A bel
   A kie - mun
   A ruh Supports A bel
 
Italy:
   F adr, no move received
   F aeg, no move received
   A bur, no move received
   F eas, no move received
   A gre, no move received (*Disbanded*)
   F nao, no move received
   F nth, no move received (*Dislodged*)
   A pic, no move received
   A pie, no move received
   A ven, no move received
 
Russia:
   A arm Supports A con - smy (*Fails*)
   F bla - con (*Fails*)
   A bud - tri
   F bul(sc) - gre
   A con - smy (*Fails*)
   A mos - stp
   F nwy Supports F yor - nth
   A rum - bul
   A ser Supports F bul(sc) - gre
   F smy - aeg (*Fails*)
   F stp(nc) - bar
   A swe Hold
   A tri - alb
   A vie Supports A bud - tri
   F yor - nth
 
Turkey:
   Eliminated Winter 1906
 
Retreats:
   Italian F North Sea can retreat to Norwegian Sea, Skagerrak, Helgoland Blight, English Channel or OTB.

 
Centers and Unit Positions:
Austria:
   Eliminated Winter 1904
 
England:
   Eliminated Winter 1905
 
France:
   Centers (2) lvp, lon.
   Units: F cly, F lon
   Build/Disband:  0
           
Germany:
   Centers (7): bel, ber, den, edi, hol, kie, mun.
   Units: A bel, A boh, A den, F edi, A hol, A mun, A ruh
   Build/Disbands: 0
 
Italy:
   Centers (10) bre, gre, mar, nap, par, por, rom, spa, tun, ven.
   Units: F adr, F aeg, A bur, F eas, F nao, A pic, A pie, A ven
   Build/Disband:  +1
           
Russia:
   Centers (15) ank, bud, bul, con, mos, nwy, rum, ser, sev, smy, stp, swe, tri, vie, war.

   Units: A alb, A arm, F bar, F bla, A bul, A con, F gre, F nth, F nwy, A ser, F smy, A stp, A swe, A tri, A vie

   Build/Disband:  0
 
Turkey:
   Eliminated Winter 1906
 
Deadline:
1910 Summer Retreat Orders: Tuesday; June 1, 24:00 Hrs GMT.
 
Maps of the Orders and Results; and, the dpy file are attached for your use.
DC317; Spring 1910 Results (Winter Blitz) packrat Jun 01, 01:19 am
Sorry  - MEMORIAL DAY here in the states.



I'm still here though -
From: Darryl Good <dipknight(at)gmail.com>
To: douglasefresh(at)gmail.com; olson.gregoryscott(at)gmail.com; dadidea(at)gmail.com; MDemagogue(at)gmail.com; nephilli99(at)hotmail.com; brn2dip(at)yahoo.com; phantomas13(at)orange.fr
Cc: blitz(at)diplomaticcorp.com; dc317(at)diplomaticcorp.com
Sent: Mon, May 31, 2010 10:02:52 PM
Subject: DC317; Spring 1910 Results


GM???s remarks:
 
France and Italy NMR; Scott, Greg, you guys still with us?  Please drop me an email and let me know.  Thanks.

 
The Players:
   Austria         Eliminated Winter 1904
   England       Eliminated Winter 1905
   France          packrat                     scott troemel         brn2dip(at)yahoo.com  

   Germany      Douglas_E_Fresh   Douglas Fresh       douglasefresh(at)gmail.com

   Italy             evapollo88              Greg Olson           olson.gregoryscott(at)gmail.com  

   Russia          Nigs                         Nigel Phillips         nephilli99(at)hotmail.com

   Turkey          Eliminated Winter 1906

 
The Orders:
Austria:
   Eliminated Winter 1904
 
England:
   Eliminated Winter 1905
 
France:
   F cly, no move received
   F lon, no move received
 
Germany:
   A bel Hold
   A boh Supports A kie - mun
   A den Hold
   F edi Supports F yor - nth
   A hol Supports A bel
   A kie - mun
   A ruh Supports A bel
 
Italy:
   F adr, no move received
   F aeg, no move received
   A bur, no move received
   F eas, no move received
   A gre, no move received (*Disbanded*)
   F nao, no move received
   F nth, no move received (*Dislodged*)
   A pic, no move received
   A pie, no move received
   A ven, no move received
 
Russia:
   A arm Supports A con - smy (*Fails*)
   F bla - con (*Fails*)
   A bud - tri
   F bul(sc) - gre
   A con - smy (*Fails*)
   A mos - stp
   F nwy Supports F yor - nth
   A rum - bul
   A ser Supports F bul(sc) - gre
   F smy - aeg (*Fails*)
   F stp(nc) - bar
   A swe Hold
   A tri - alb
   A vie Supports A bud - tri
   F yor - nth
 
Turkey:
   Eliminated Winter 1906
 
Retreats:
   Italian F North Sea can retreat to Norwegian Sea, Skagerrak, Helgoland Blight, English Channel or OTB.

 
Centers and Unit Positions:
Austria:
   Eliminated Winter 1904
 
England:
   Eliminated Winter 1905
 
France:
   Centers (2) lvp, lon.
   Units: F cly, F lon
   Build/Disband:  0
           
Germany:
   Centers (7): bel, ber, den, edi, hol, kie, mun.
   Units: A bel, A boh, A den, F edi, A hol, A mun, A ruh
   Build/Disbands: 0
 
Italy:
   Centers (10) bre, gre, mar, nap, par, por, rom, spa, tun, ven.
   Units: F adr, F aeg, A bur, F eas, F nao, A pic, A pie, A ven
   Build/Disband:  +1
           
Russia:
   Centers (15) ank, bud, bul, con, mos, nwy, rum, ser, sev, smy, stp, swe, tri, vie, war.

   Units: A alb, A arm, F bar, F bla, A bul, A con, F gre, F nth, F nwy, A ser, F smy, A stp, A swe, A tri, A vie

   Build/Disband:  0
 
Turkey:
   Eliminated Winter 1906
 
Deadline:
1910 Summer Retreat Orders: Tuesday; June 1, 24:00 Hrs GMT.
 
Maps of the Orders and Results; and, the dpy file are attached for your use.
DC317; Spring 1910 Results (Winter Blitz) Nigs Jun 01, 02:41 am
Spring Bank holiday here in the UK - a low key public holiday, which grew out of factory holidays for Whit Monday.
Mostly seems to involve gardening and barbecues.
Nigs

Date: Mon, 31 May 2010 23:19:54 -0700
From: brn2dip(at)yahoo.com
Subject: Re: DC317; Spring 1910 Results
To: dipknight(at)gmail.com; douglasefresh(at)gmail.com; olson.gregoryscott(at)gmail.com; dadidea(at)gmail.com; MDemagogue(at)gmail.com; nephilli99(at)hotmail.com; phantomas13(at)orange.fr
CC: blitz(at)diplomaticcorp.com; dc317(at)diplomaticcorp.com



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Sorry  - MEMORIAL DAY here in the states.



I'm still here though -
From: Darryl Good <dipknight(at)gmail.com>
To: douglasefresh(at)gmail.com; olson.gregoryscott(at)gmail.com; dadidea(at)gmail.com; MDemagogue(at)gmail.com; nephilli99(at)hotmail.com; brn2dip(at)yahoo.com; phantomas13(at)orange.fr
Cc: blitz(at)diplomaticcorp.com; dc317(at)diplomaticcorp.com
Sent: Mon, May 31, 2010 10:02:52 PM
Subject: DC317; Spring 1910 Results


GM's remarks:
 
France and Italy NMR; Scott, Greg, you guys still with us?  Please drop me an email and let me know.  Thanks.
 
The Players:
   Austria         Eliminated Winter 1904
   England       Eliminated Winter 1905
   France          packrat                     scott troemel         brn2dip(at)yahoo.com  
   Germany      Douglas_E_Fresh   Douglas Fresh       douglasefresh(at)gmail.com
   Italy             evapollo88              Greg Olson           olson.gregoryscott(at)gmail.com  
   Russia          Nigs                         Nigel Phillips         nephilli99(at)hotmail.com
   Turkey          Eliminated Winter 1906
 
The Orders:
Austria:
   Eliminated Winter 1904
 
England:
   Eliminated Winter 1905
 
France:
   F cly, no move received
   F lon, no move received
 
Germany:
   A bel Hold
   A boh Supports A kie - mun
   A den Hold
   F edi Supports F yor - nth
   A hol Supports A bel
   A kie - mun
   A ruh Supports A bel
 
Italy:
   F adr, no move received
   F aeg, no move received
   A bur, no move received
   F eas, no move received
   A gre, no move received (*Disbanded*)
   F nao, no move received
   F nth, no move received (*Dislodged*)
   A pic, no move received
   A pie, no move received
   A ven, no move received
 
Russia:
   A arm Supports A con - smy (*Fails*)
   F bla - con (*Fails*)
   A bud - tri
   F bul(sc) - gre
   A con - smy (*Fails*)
   A mos - stp
   F nwy Supports F yor - nth
   A rum - bul
   A ser Supports F bul(sc) - gre
   F smy - aeg (*Fails*)
   F stp(nc) - bar
   A swe Hold
   A tri - alb
   A vie Supports A bud - tri
   F yor - nth
 
Turkey:
   Eliminated Winter 1906
 
Retreats:
   Italian F North Sea can retreat to Norwegian Sea, Skagerrak, Helgoland Blight, English Channel or OTB.
 
Centers and Unit Positions:
Austria:
   Eliminated Winter 1904
 
England:
   Eliminated Winter 1905
 
France:
   Centers (2) lvp, lon.
   Units: F cly, F lon
   Build/Disband:  0
           
Germany:
   Centers (7): bel, ber, den, edi, hol, kie, mun.
   Units: A bel, A boh, A den, F edi, A hol, A mun, A ruh
   Build/Disbands: 0
 
Italy:
   Centers (10) bre, gre, mar, nap, par, por, rom, spa, tun, ven.
   Units: F adr, F aeg, A bur, F eas, F nao, A pic, A pie, A ven
   Build/Disband:  +1
           
Russia:
   Centers (15) ank, bud, bul, con, mos, nwy, rum, ser, sev, smy, stp, swe, tri, vie, war.
   Units: A alb, A arm, F bar, F bla, A bul, A con, F gre, F nth, F nwy, A ser, F smy, A stp, A swe, A tri, A vie
   Build/Disband:  0
 
Turkey:
   Eliminated Winter 1906
 
Deadline:
1910 Summer Retreat Orders: Tuesday; June 1, 24:00 Hrs GMT.
 
Maps of the Orders and Results; and, the dpy file are attached for your use.

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DC317; Spring 1910 Results (Winter Blitz) Douglas_E_Fresh Jun 01, 03:56 am
Meanwhile, the Russian behemoth rolls forward. Who can stop it?! The Italian diplomatic effort seems to have dried up... at least, no more bricks have been lobbed through the Reichstag office windows. No word form the celts since they were dislocated...

The Germans sip another shot of vodka and await contact

On Tue, Jun 1, 2010 at 8:41 AM, Nigel PHILLIPS <nephilli99(at)hotmail.com> wrote:



Spring Bank holiday here in the UK - a low key public holiday, which grew out of factory holidays for Whit Monday.
Mostly seems to involve gardening and barbecues.
Nigs


Date: Mon, 31 May 2010 23:19:54 -0700
From: brn2dip(at)yahoo.com
Subject: Re: DC317; Spring 1910 Results
To: dipknight(at)gmail.com; douglasefresh(at)gmail.com; olson.gregoryscott(at)gmail.com; dadidea(at)gmail.com; MDemagogue(at)gmail.com; nephilli99(at)hotmail.com; phantomas13(at)orange.fr

CC: blitz(at)diplomaticcorp.com; dc317(at)diplomaticcorp.com


Sorry  - MEMORIAL DAY here in the states.



I'm still here though -

From: Darryl Good <dipknight(at)gmail.com>
To: douglasefresh(at)gmail.com; olson.gregoryscott(at)gmail.com; dadidea(at)gmail.com; MDemagogue(at)gmail.com; nephilli99(at)hotmail.com; brn2dip(at)yahoo.com; phantomas13(at)orange.fr

Cc: blitz(at)diplomaticcorp.com; dc317(at)diplomaticcorp.com

Sent: Mon, May 31, 2010 10:02:52 PM
Subject: DC317; Spring 1910 Results


GM's remarks:
 
France and Italy NMR; Scott, Greg, you guys still with us?  Please drop me an email and let me know.  Thanks.
 
The Players:
   Austria         Eliminated Winter 1904
   England       Eliminated Winter 1905
   France          packrat                     scott troemel         brn2dip(at)yahoo.com  

   Germany      Douglas_E_Fresh   Douglas Fresh       douglasefresh(at)gmail.com

   Italy             evapollo88              Greg Olson           olson.gregoryscott(at)gmail.com  

   Russia          Nigs                         Nigel Phillips         nephilli99(at)hotmail.com

   Turkey          Eliminated Winter 1906
 
The Orders:
Austria:
   Eliminated Winter 1904
 
England:
   Eliminated Winter 1905
 
France:
   F cly, no move received
   F lon, no move received
 
Germany:
   A bel Hold
   A boh Supports A kie - mun
   A den Hold
   F edi Supports F yor - nth
   A hol Supports A bel
   A kie - mun
   A ruh Supports A bel
 
Italy:
   F adr, no move received
   F aeg, no move received
   A bur, no move received
   F eas, no move received
   A gre, no move received (*Disbanded*)
   F nao, no move received
   F nth, no move received (*Dislodged*)
   A pic, no move received
   A pie, no move received
   A ven, no move received
 
Russia:
   A arm Supports A con - smy (*Fails*)
   F bla - con (*Fails*)
   A bud - tri
   F bul(sc) - gre
   A con - smy (*Fails*)
   A mos - stp
   F nwy Supports F yor - nth
   A rum - bul
   A ser Supports F bul(sc) - gre
   F smy - aeg (*Fails*)
   F stp(nc) - bar
   A swe Hold
   A tri - alb
   A vie Supports A bud - tri
   F yor - nth
 
Turkey:
   Eliminated Winter 1906
 
Retreats:
   Italian F North Sea can retreat to Norwegian Sea, Skagerrak, Helgoland Blight, English Channel or OTB.
 
Centers and Unit Positions:
Austria:
   Eliminated Winter 1904
 
England:
   Eliminated Winter 1905
 
France:
   Centers (2) lvp, lon.
   Units: F cly, F lon
   Build/Disband:  0
           
Germany:
   Centers (7): bel, ber, den, edi, hol, kie, mun.
   Units: A bel, A boh, A den, F edi, A hol, A mun, A ruh
   Build/Disbands: 0
 
Italy:
   Centers (10) bre, gre, mar, nap, par, por, rom, spa, tun, ven.
   Units: F adr, F aeg, A bur, F eas, F nao, A pic, A pie, A ven
   Build/Disband:  +1
           
Russia:
   Centers (15) ank, bud, bul, con, mos, nwy, rum, ser, sev, smy, stp, swe, tri, vie, war.
   Units: A alb, A arm, F bar, F bla, A bul, A con, F gre, F nth, F nwy, A ser, F smy, A stp, A swe, A tri, A vie
   Build/Disband:  0
 
Turkey:
   Eliminated Winter 1906
 
Deadline:
1910 Summer Retreat Orders: Tuesday; June 1, 24:00 Hrs GMT.
 
Maps of the Orders and Results; and, the dpy file are attached for your use.

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DC317; Spring 1910 Results (Winter Blitz) packrat Jun 01, 07:48 am
Oh - puh - lease!!!!  Germany is as responsible for RUssia being the size it is as RUssia herself is.

The German government is weak and ineffective and has rolled over for the Russian.  Italy and I have
not spoken to Germany since there is no point.

From: Douglas Fresh <douglasefresh(at)googlemail.com>
To: Nigel PHILLIPS <nephilli99(at)hotmail.com>
Cc: brn2dip(at)yahoo.com; dipknight(at)gmail.com;
douglasefresh(at)gmail.com; olson.gregoryscott(at)gmail.com; dadidea(at)gmail.com; mdemagogue(at)gmail.com; phantomas13(at)orange.fr; blitz(at)diplomaticcorp.com; dc317(at)diplomaticcorp.com
Sent: Tue, June 1, 2010 4:56:11 AM
Subject: Re: DC317; Spring 1910 Results


Meanwhile, the Russian behemoth rolls forward. Who can stop it?! The Italian diplomatic effort seems to have dried up... at least, no more bricks have been lobbed through the Reichstag office windows. No word form the celts since they were dislocated...

The Germans sip another shot of vodka and await contact

On Tue, Jun 1, 2010 at 8:41 AM, Nigel PHILLIPS <nephilli99(at)hotmail.com> wrote:






Spring Bank holiday here in the UK - a low key public holiday, which grew out of factory holidays for Whit Monday.
Mostly seems to involve gardening and barbecues.
Nigs


Date: Mon, 31 May 2010 23:19:54 -0700
From: brn2dip(at)yahoo.com
Subject: Re: DC317; Spring 1910 Results
To: dipknight(at)gmail.com; douglasefresh(at)gmail.com; olson.gregoryscott(at)gmail.com; dadidea(at)gmail.com; MDemagogue(at)gmail.com; nephilli99(at)hotmail.com; phantomas13(at)orange.fr

CC: blitz(at)diplomaticcorp.com; dc317(at)diplomaticcorp.com



Sorry  - MEMORIAL DAY here in the states.



I'm still here though -

From: Darryl Good <dipknight(at)gmail.com>
To: douglasefresh(at)gmail.com; olson.gregoryscott(at)gmail.com; dadidea(at)gmail.com; MDemagogue(at)gmail.com; nephilli99(at)hotmail.com; brn2dip(at)yahoo.com; phantomas13(at)orange.fr

Cc: blitz(at)diplomaticcorp.com; dc317(at)diplomaticcorp.com

Sent: Mon, May 31, 2010 10:02:52 PM
Subject: DC317; Spring 1910 Results


GM???s remarks:
 
France and Italy NMR; Scott, Greg, you guys still with us?  Please drop me an email and let me know.  Thanks.

 
The Players:
   Austria         Eliminated Winter 1904
   England       Eliminated Winter 1905
   France          packrat                     scott troemel         brn2dip(at)yahoo.com  


   Germany      Douglas_E_Fresh   Douglas Fresh       douglasefresh(at)gmail.com


   Italy             evapollo88              Greg Olson           olson.gregoryscott(at)gmail.com  


   Russia          Nigs                         Nigel Phillips         nephilli99(at)hotmail.com


   Turkey          Eliminated Winter 1906

 
The Orders:
Austria:
   Eliminated Winter 1904
 
England:
   Eliminated Winter 1905
 
France:
   F cly, no move received
   F lon, no move received
 
Germany:
   A bel Hold
   A boh Supports A kie - mun
   A den Hold
   F edi Supports F yor - nth
   A hol Supports A bel
   A kie - mun
   A ruh Supports A bel
 
Italy:
   F adr, no move received
   F aeg, no move received
   A bur, no move received
   F eas, no move received
   A gre, no move received (*Disbanded*)
   F nao, no move received
   F nth, no move received (*Dislodged*)
   A pic, no move received
   A pie, no move received
   A ven, no move received
 
Russia:
   A arm Supports A con - smy (*Fails*)
   F bla - con (*Fails*)
   A bud - tri
   F bul(sc) - gre
   A con - smy (*Fails*)
   A mos - stp
   F nwy Supports F yor - nth
   A rum - bul
   A ser Supports F bul(sc) - gre
   F smy - aeg (*Fails*)
   F stp(nc) - bar
   A swe Hold
   A tri - alb
   A vie Supports A bud - tri
   F yor - nth
 
Turkey:
   Eliminated Winter 1906
 
Retreats:
   Italian F North Sea can retreat to Norwegian Sea, Skagerrak, Helgoland Blight, English Channel or OTB.

 
Centers and Unit Positions:
Austria:
   Eliminated Winter 1904
 
England:
   Eliminated Winter 1905
 
France:
   Centers (2) lvp, lon.
   Units: F cly, F lon
   Build/Disband:  0
           
Germany:
   Centers (7): bel, ber, den, edi, hol, kie, mun.
   Units: A bel, A boh, A den, F edi, A hol, A mun, A ruh
   Build/Disbands: 0
 
Italy:
   Centers (10) bre, gre, mar, nap, par, por, rom, spa, tun, ven.
   Units: F adr, F aeg, A bur, F eas, F nao, A pic, A pie, A ven
   Build/Disband:  +1
           
Russia:
   Centers (15) ank, bud, bul, con, mos, nwy, rum, ser, sev, smy, stp, swe, tri, vie, war.

   Units: A alb, A arm, F bar, F bla, A bul, A con, F gre, F nth, F nwy, A ser, F smy, A stp, A swe, A tri, A vie

   Build/Disband:  0
 
Turkey:
   Eliminated Winter 1906
 
Deadline:
1910 Summer Retreat Orders: Tuesday; June 1, 24:00 Hrs GMT.
 
Maps of the Orders and Results; and, the dpy file are attached for your use.


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DC317; Spring 1910 Results (Winter Blitz) evapollo88 Jun 01, 08:10 am
Await contact! await contact??!?? I have sent you mail over many of the last years asking, begging, pleading for you to change your position. We argued your decision to throw the game, and you said you wouldn't change. Await contact? What exactly were you waiting for? Please, tell me, because I will still give you anything you want to stop the Russian winning. I've told you that time and time again. 

- Greg

On Tue, Jun 1, 2010 at 4:56 AM, Douglas Fresh <douglasefresh(at)googlemail.com> wrote:

Meanwhile, the Russian behemoth rolls forward. Who can stop it?! The Italian diplomatic effort seems to have dried up... at least, no more bricks have been lobbed through the Reichstag office windows. No word form the celts since they were dislocated...

The Germans sip another shot of vodka and await contact

On Tue, Jun 1, 2010 at 8:41 AM, Nigel PHILLIPS <nephilli99(at)hotmail.com> wrote:




Spring Bank holiday here in the UK - a low key public holiday, which grew out of factory holidays for Whit Monday.
Mostly seems to involve gardening and barbecues.
Nigs


Date: Mon, 31 May 2010 23:19:54 -0700
From: brn2dip(at)yahoo.com
Subject: Re: DC317; Spring 1910 Results
To: dipknight(at)gmail.com; douglasefresh(at)gmail.com; olson.gregoryscott(at)gmail.com; dadidea(at)gmail.com; MDemagogue(at)gmail.com; nephilli99(at)hotmail.com; phantomas13(at)orange.fr

CC: blitz(at)diplomaticcorp.com; dc317(at)diplomaticcorp.com


Sorry  - MEMORIAL DAY here in the states.



I'm still here though -

From: Darryl Good <dipknight(at)gmail.com>
To: douglasefresh(at)gmail.com; olson.gregoryscott(at)gmail.com; dadidea(at)gmail.com; MDemagogue(at)gmail.com; nephilli99(at)hotmail.com; brn2dip(at)yahoo.com; phantomas13(at)orange.fr

Cc: blitz(at)diplomaticcorp.com; dc317(at)diplomaticcorp.com

Sent: Mon, May 31, 2010 10:02:52 PM
Subject: DC317; Spring 1910 Results


GM's remarks:
 
France and Italy NMR; Scott, Greg, you guys still with us?  Please drop me an email and let me know.  Thanks.
 
The Players:
   Austria         Eliminated Winter 1904
   England       Eliminated Winter 1905
   France          packrat                     scott troemel         brn2dip(at)yahoo.com  

   Germany      Douglas_E_Fresh   Douglas Fresh       douglasefresh(at)gmail.com

   Italy             evapollo88              Greg Olson           olson.gregoryscott(at)gmail.com  

   Russia          Nigs                         Nigel Phillips         nephilli99(at)hotmail.com

   Turkey          Eliminated Winter 1906
 
The Orders:
Austria:
   Eliminated Winter 1904
 
England:
   Eliminated Winter 1905
 
France:
   F cly, no move received
   F lon, no move received
 
Germany:
   A bel Hold
   A boh Supports A kie - mun
   A den Hold
   F edi Supports F yor - nth
   A hol Supports A bel
   A kie - mun
   A ruh Supports A bel
 
Italy:
   F adr, no move received
   F aeg, no move received
   A bur, no move received
   F eas, no move received
   A gre, no move received (*Disbanded*)
   F nao, no move received
   F nth, no move received (*Dislodged*)
   A pic, no move received
   A pie, no move received
   A ven, no move received
 
Russia:
   A arm Supports A con - smy (*Fails*)
   F bla - con (*Fails*)
   A bud - tri
   F bul(sc) - gre
   A con - smy (*Fails*)
   A mos - stp
   F nwy Supports F yor - nth
   A rum - bul
   A ser Supports F bul(sc) - gre
   F smy - aeg (*Fails*)
   F stp(nc) - bar
   A swe Hold
   A tri - alb
   A vie Supports A bud - tri
   F yor - nth
 
Turkey:
   Eliminated Winter 1906
 
Retreats:
   Italian F North Sea can retreat to Norwegian Sea, Skagerrak, Helgoland Blight, English Channel or OTB.
 
Centers and Unit Positions:
Austria:
   Eliminated Winter 1904
 
England:
   Eliminated Winter 1905
 
France:
   Centers (2) lvp, lon.
   Units: F cly, F lon
   Build/Disband:  0
           
Germany:
   Centers (7): bel, ber, den, edi, hol, kie, mun.
   Units: A bel, A boh, A den, F edi, A hol, A mun, A ruh
   Build/Disbands: 0
 
Italy:
   Centers (10) bre, gre, mar, nap, par, por, rom, spa, tun, ven.
   Units: F adr, F aeg, A bur, F eas, F nao, A pic, A pie, A ven
   Build/Disband:  +1
           
Russia:
   Centers (15) ank, bud, bul, con, mos, nwy, rum, ser, sev, smy, stp, swe, tri, vie, war.
   Units: A alb, A arm, F bar, F bla, A bul, A con, F gre, F nth, F nwy, A ser, F smy, A stp, A swe, A tri, A vie
   Build/Disband:  0
 
Turkey:
   Eliminated Winter 1906
 
Deadline:
1910 Summer Retreat Orders: Tuesday; June 1, 24:00 Hrs GMT.
 
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DC317; Spring 1910 Results (Winter Blitz) Nigs Jun 01, 09:46 am
Russian hunters have spread world-wide, shooting down any message-carrying pigeons.
With our German friends and allies, we shall shortly feast upon these roast pigeons in Rome. (and London, home of the French)
Nigs
Date: Tue, 1 Jun 2010 09:10:56 -0400
Subject: Re: DC317; Spring 1910 Results
From: olson.gregoryscott(at)gmail.com
To: douglasefresh(at)googlemail.com
CC: nephilli99(at)hotmail.com; brn2dip(at)yahoo.com; dipknight(at)gmail.com; douglasefresh(at)gmail.com; dadidea(at)gmail.com; mdemagogue(at)gmail.com; phantomas13(at)orange.fr; blitz(at)diplomaticcorp.com; dc317(at)diplomaticcorp.com

Await contact! await contact??!?? I have sent you mail over many of the last years asking, begging, pleading for you to change your position. We argued your decision to throw the game, and you said you wouldn't change. Await contact? What exactly were you waiting for? Please, tell me, because I will still give you anything you want to stop the Russian winning. I've told you that time and time again. 

- Greg

On Tue, Jun 1, 2010 at 4:56 AM, Douglas Fresh <douglasefresh(at)googlemail.com> wrote:

Meanwhile, the Russian behemoth rolls forward. Who can stop it?! The Italian diplomatic effort seems to have dried up... at least, no more bricks have been lobbed through the Reichstag office windows. No word form the celts since they were dislocated...

The Germans sip another shot of vodka and await contact

On Tue, Jun 1, 2010 at 8:41 AM, Nigel PHILLIPS <nephilli99(at)hotmail.com> wrote:




Spring Bank holiday here in the UK - a low key public holiday, which grew out of factory holidays for Whit Monday.
Mostly seems to involve gardening and barbecues.
Nigs


Date: Mon, 31 May 2010 23:19:54 -0700
From: brn2dip(at)yahoo.com
Subject: Re: DC317; Spring 1910 Results
To: dipknight(at)gmail.com; douglasefresh(at)gmail.com; olson.gregoryscott(at)gmail.com; dadidea(at)gmail.com; MDemagogue(at)gmail.com; nephilli99(at)hotmail.com; phantomas13(at)orange.fr

CC: blitz(at)diplomaticcorp.com; dc317(at)diplomaticcorp.com


Sorry  - MEMORIAL DAY here in the states.



I'm still here though -

From: Darryl Good <dipknight(at)gmail.com>
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Sent: Mon, May 31, 2010 10:02:52 PM
Subject: DC317; Spring 1910 Results


GM's remarks:

 
France and Italy NMR; Scott, Greg, you guys still with us?  Please drop me an email and let me know.  Thanks.
 
The Players:

   Austria         Eliminated Winter 1904

   England       Eliminated Winter 1905

   France          packrat                     scott troemel         brn2dip(at)yahoo.com  


   Germany      Douglas_E_Fresh   Douglas Fresh       douglasefresh(at)gmail.com


   Italy             evapollo88              Greg Olson           olson.gregoryscott(at)gmail.com  


   Russia          Nigs                         Nigel Phillips         nephilli99(at)hotmail.com


   Turkey          Eliminated Winter 1906

 

The Orders:

Austria:

   Eliminated Winter 1904

 

England:

   Eliminated Winter 1905

 

France:

   F cly, no move received

   F lon, no move received

 

Germany:

   A bel Hold

   A boh Supports A kie - mun

   A den Hold

   F edi Supports F yor - nth

   A hol Supports A bel

   A kie - mun

   A ruh Supports A bel

 

Italy:

   F adr, no move received

   F aeg, no move received

   A bur, no move received

   F eas, no move received

   A gre, no move received (*Disbanded*)

   F nao, no move received

   F nth, no move received (*Dislodged*)

   A pic, no move received

   A pie, no move received

   A ven, no move received

 

Russia:

   A arm Supports A con - smy (*Fails*)

   F bla - con (*Fails*)

   A bud - tri

   F bul(sc) - gre

   A con - smy (*Fails*)

   A mos - stp

   F nwy Supports F yor - nth

   A rum - bul

   A ser Supports F bul(sc) - gre

   F smy - aeg (*Fails*)

   F stp(nc) - bar

   A swe Hold

   A tri - alb

   A vie Supports A bud - tri

   F yor - nth

 

Turkey:

   Eliminated Winter 1906

 

Retreats:

   Italian F North Sea can retreat to Norwegian Sea, Skagerrak, Helgoland Blight, English Channel or OTB.

 

Centers and Unit Positions:

Austria:

   Eliminated Winter 1904

 

England:

   Eliminated Winter 1905

 

France:

   Centers (2) lvp, lon.

   Units: F cly, F lon

   Build/Disband:  0

           

Germany:

   Centers (7): bel, ber, den, edi, hol, kie, mun.

   Units: A bel, A boh, A den, F edi, A hol, A mun, A ruh

   Build/Disbands: 0

 

Italy:

   Centers (10) bre, gre, mar, nap, par, por, rom, spa, tun, ven.

   Units: F adr, F aeg, A bur, F eas, F nao, A pic, A pie, A ven

   Build/Disband:  +1

           

Russia:

   Centers (15) ank, bud, bul, con, mos, nwy, rum, ser, sev, smy, stp, swe, tri, vie, war.

   Units: A alb, A arm, F bar, F bla, A bul, A con, F gre, F nth, F nwy, A ser, F smy, A stp, A swe, A tri, A vie

   Build/Disband:  0

 

Turkey:

   Eliminated Winter 1906

 

Deadline:

1910 Summer Retreat Orders: Tuesday; June 1, 24:00 Hrs GMT.

 

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DC317; Spring 1910 Results (Winter Blitz) Douglas_E_Fresh Jun 02, 04:12 am
(Meanwhile, In the Reichstag)

General De Frog, newly promoted Secretary to the German Ministry of Capitulation, knocked once and, without waiting for a response, entered the Kaiser's War Room .

"A-hem'


"What is it De Frog?"

The Kaiser was slumped in a high backed leather chair; staring disconsolately at the map of Europe spread on the vast desk before him.

"Reports suggest that our communications to neither the Italians, nor the French governments, have been reaching their destination, Sir"


"How so?"

"Russian hunters, apparently Sir. Apparently, they've been snaffling our carrier pigeons for their suppers, Sir"

"Harumphh! - Well how then, are we to continue our mocking of the French, De Frog? Tell me that! - How are the Italians to know that we are still sympathetic, if mildly indifferent to their cause! - How then!? - We must change our strategy!"


"Indeed Sir!, perhaps we should revert to the old-fashioned method of sending an envoy, Sir? - or perhaps, in the case of the French court, a children's entertainer, Sir?"

A hint of a smile appeared beneath the Kaiser's mighty moustaches.


"That's it De Frog! Send at once our finest stonemasons to Rome and have them construct small but sturdy walls in front of the foreheads of all the members of the Italian Court. That should save them time, when planning their response. The merest gesture of goodwill, should be all that is required to master the trust of those rabble.


And what to do about the French, eh? - How do we get our message across there?"

The Kaiser drummed his fingers on the desktop

"The thing with the Children's entertainer.. I like that ... but what shall we have him say?"


"If I may be so bold Sir?, Perhaps simply have the entertainer visit the French Court, and tell the French Queen, that she and her people are all Italian-speaking, kilt-wearing, wannabe-Cockneys, Sir"


The Kaiser mused over De Frogs' suggestion.

"See it done! - and immediately! - If the clown is to reach Edinburgh before September, he must hurry!"

On Tue, Jun 1, 2010 at 3:46 PM, Nigel PHILLIPS <nephilli99(at)hotmail.com> wrote:



Russian hunters have spread world-wide, shooting down any message-carrying pigeons.
With our German friends and allies, we shall shortly feast upon these roast pigeons in Rome. (and London, home of the French)

Nigs
DC317; Spring 1910 Results (Winter Blitz) packrat Jun 02, 07:40 am
You have no idea how desperately I wish you were as funny as you think you are.

FYI - the KING of France is in London.  The only Queens lurk in the Kaiser's
closets.

From: Douglas Fresh <douglasefresh(at)googlemail.com>
To: Nigel PHILLIPS <nephilli99(at)hotmail.com>
Cc: olson.gregoryscott(at)gmail.com; brn2dip(at)yahoo.com; dipknight(at)gmail.com; douglasefresh(at)gmail.com; dadidea(at)gmail.com; mdemagogue(at)gmail.com;
phantomas13(at)orange.fr; blitz(at)diplomaticcorp.com; dc317(at)diplomaticcorp.com
Sent: Wed, June 2, 2010 5:12:48 AM
Subject: Re: DC317; Spring 1910 Results


(Meanwhile, In the Reichstag)

General De Frog, newly promoted Secretary to the German Ministry of Capitulation, knocked once and, without waiting for a response, entered the Kaiser's War Room .

"A-hem'


"What is it De Frog?"

The Kaiser was slumped in a high backed leather chair; staring disconsolately at the map of Europe spread on the vast desk before him.

"Reports suggest that our communications to neither the Italians, nor the French governments, have been reaching their destination, Sir"


"How so?"

"Russian hunters, apparently Sir. Apparently, they've been snaffling our carrier pigeons for their suppers, Sir"

"Harumphh! - Well how then, are we to continue our mocking of the French, De Frog? Tell me that! - How are the Italians to know that we are still sympathetic, if mildly indifferent to their cause! - How then!? - We must change our strategy!"


"Indeed Sir!, perhaps we should revert to the old-fashioned method of sending an envoy, Sir? - or perhaps, in the case of the French court, a children's entertainer, Sir?"

A hint of a smile appeared beneath the Kaiser's mighty moustaches.


"That's it De Frog! Send at once our finest stonemasons to Rome and have them construct small but sturdy walls in front of the foreheads of all the members of the Italian Court. That should save them time, when planning their response. The merest gesture of goodwill, should be all that is required to master the trust of those rabble.


And what to do about the French, eh? - How do we get our message across there?"

The Kaiser drummed his fingers on the desktop

"The thing with the Children's entertainer.. I like that ... but what shall we have him say?"


"If I may be so bold Sir?, Perhaps simply have the entertainer visit the French Court, and tell the French Queen, that she and her people are all Italian-speaking, kilt-wearing, wannabe-Cockneys, Sir"


The Kaiser mused over De Frogs' suggestion.

"See it done! - and immediately! - If the clown is to reach Edinburgh before September, he must hurry!"

On Tue, Jun 1, 2010 at 3:46 PM, Nigel PHILLIPS <nephilli99(at)hotmail.com> wrote:



Russian hunters have spread world-wide, shooting down any message-carrying pigeons.
With our German friends and allies, we shall shortly feast upon these roast pigeons in Rome. (and London, home of the French)

Nigs
DC317; Spring 1910 Results (Winter Blitz) Douglas_E_Fresh Jun 02, 08:11 am
Carefully, the Kaiser balanced the bucket of water between the frame and the partially opened door of his office. Stifling a chuckle, he moved the stepladder out of sight and hurried back behind his desk.


On Wed, Jun 2, 2010 at 1:40 PM, Packrat <brn2dip(at)yahoo.com> wrote:

You have no idea how desperately I wish you were as funny as you think you are.

FYI - the KING of France is in London.  The only Queens lurk in the Kaiser's

closets.


From: Douglas Fresh <douglasefresh(at)googlemail.com>
To: Nigel PHILLIPS <nephilli99(at)hotmail.com>

Cc: olson.gregoryscott(at)gmail.com; brn2dip(at)yahoo.com; dipknight(at)gmail.com; douglasefresh(at)gmail.com; dadidea(at)gmail.com; mdemagogue(at)gmail.com;
phantomas13(at)orange.fr; blitz(at)diplomaticcorp.com; dc317(at)diplomaticcorp.com

Sent: Wed, June 2, 2010 5:12:48 AM
Subject: Re: DC317; Spring 1910 Results



(Meanwhile, In the Reichstag)

General De Frog, newly promoted Secretary to the German Ministry of Capitulation, knocked once and, without waiting for a response, entered the Kaiser's War Room .

"A-hem'


"What is it De Frog?"

The Kaiser was slumped in a high backed leather chair; staring disconsolately at the map of Europe spread on the vast desk before him.

"Reports suggest that our communications to neither the Italians, nor the French governments, have been reaching their destination, Sir"


"How so?"

"Russian hunters, apparently Sir. Apparently, they've been snaffling our carrier pigeons for their suppers, Sir"

"Harumphh! - Well how then, are we to continue our mocking of the French, De Frog? Tell me that! - How are the Italians to know that we are still sympathetic, if mildly indifferent to their cause! - How then!? - We must change our strategy!"


"Indeed Sir!, perhaps we should revert to the old-fashioned method of sending an envoy, Sir? - or perhaps, in the case of the French court, a children's entertainer, Sir?"

A hint of a smile appeared beneath the Kaiser's mighty moustaches.


"That's it De Frog! Send at once our finest stonemasons to Rome and have them construct small but sturdy walls in front of the foreheads of all the members of the Italian Court. That should save them time, when planning their response. The merest gesture of goodwill, should be all that is required to master the trust of those rabble.


And what to do about the French, eh? - How do we get our message across there?"

The Kaiser drummed his fingers on the desktop

"The thing with the Children's entertainer.. I like that ... but what shall we have him say?"


"If I may be so bold Sir?, Perhaps simply have the entertainer visit the French Court, and tell the French Queen, that she and her people are all Italian-speaking, kilt-wearing, wannabe-Cockneys, Sir"


The Kaiser mused over De Frogs' suggestion.

"See it done! - and immediately! - If the clown is to reach Edinburgh before September, he must hurry!"

On Tue, Jun 1, 2010 at 3:46 PM, Nigel PHILLIPS <nephilli99(at)hotmail.com> wrote:




Russian hunters have spread world-wide, shooting down any message-carrying pigeons.
With our German friends and allies, we shall shortly feast upon these roast pigeons in Rome. (and London, home of the French)

Nigs
DC 298 S1921 Results: The Longest Tourney Game Eve... - garry.bledsoe   (May 31, 2010, 8:30 pm)
Russia Has His 18th BUT Can He Keep It?Advances on Some Fronts But Steps Backward on OthersSeems to Be a Race to 18 or Stalemate
All,We have some good action this time and we have retreats due:
A Bur can retreat to Par, Mar, Gas or OTB.A Tyr can retreat to Mun, Boh or OTB.
Let's get those by tomorrow at about 3pm CST (sorry John but they need extra time since I got this out MUCH later in the day; I can do the turn if needed).
Good luck in the Fall. I CAN'T WAIT to see how this one comes out.
Garry

France: A Belgium - Holland (*Disbanded*)A Burgundy - Ruhr (*Dislodged*)F English Channel - North SeaF Norwegian Sea - ClydeA Picardy - Belgium (*Fails*)F Yorkshire - London
Italy: F Adriatic Sea Supports A TriesteA Bulgaria - Serbia (*Fails*)F Constantinople - Bulgaria(sc) (*Fails*)F Eastern Mediterranean - Smyrna (*Fails*)F Greece Supports F Constantinople - Bulgaria(sc) (*Fails*)F Ionian Sea Convoys A Naples - AlbaniaA Naples - AlbaniaA Piedmont - TyroliaF Smyrna - Constantinople (*Bounce*)A Trieste Supports A Bulgaria - Serbia (*Cut*)A Venice Supports A Piedmont - Tyrolia
Russia: A Ankara - Constantinople (*Bounce*)F Edinburgh HoldA Finland Supports F St Petersburg(nc) - NorwayA Galicia - BudapestA Holland Supports F North Sea - BelgiumA Kiel Supports A RuhrA Munich - BurgundyF North Sea - BelgiumA Ruhr Supports A Munich - BurgundyA Rumania Supports A SerbiaA Serbia Supports A Tyrolia - Trieste (*Cut*)F Sevastopol - Black SeaF St Petersburg(nc) - NorwayA Tyrolia - Trieste (*Dislodged*)A Vienna Supports A Galicia - BudapestA Warsaw - Silesia

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DC 298 S1921 Results: The Longest Tourney Game Ever? (Winter Blitz) untitled36 Jun 01, 08:31 pm
I'm back and ready to tackle Gming this monster once again! Smile

Thanks Garry for filling in! You are a lifesaver! It's now somewhere around 8:30 PM CST and I have yet to receive any retreats or any adjucation from Garry (not blaming Garry, it's not his responsibility!). But unless retreats got sent to him and not me, I suppose both units retreat OTB. I'll wait to make theis official and give Garry a chance to confirm first.

Either way, I'm back at the helm and ready to steer this ship home!

John
 
DC 298 S1921 Results: The Longest Tourney Game Ever? (Winter Blitz) untitled36 Jun 01, 08:33 pm
Oops! My mistake. I did receive

F Tyr - Boh

As you can imagine, my inbox is overflowing. I still don't have a lot of time tonight (just got back). But I'll send out the updated map and dp file tomorrow. For now, I suppose F Tyr-Boh and A Bur OTB.

Thanks all.

john


 
DC319: Spring 1939 Moves - charlesf   (May 31, 2010, 6:37 pm)
 
Hallo zusammen,
 
I'm afraid both Michael and Jimmy failed to meet
the regular deadline. This means that Michael has now used up both of his two
grace periods accorded to him for this game. Didn't get round to bugging players
about orders as on other occasions. Just try to remember: Saturdays we commonly
have our prelim deadline. Mondays our regular moves deadline. Wednesdays our
retreats and adjustments. We all don't any grief to befall this
game.
 
Now, what happened this season? In terms of conquests not all that much.
Britain descended on the port of Brest, while the Rzeczpospolita has extended
her influence into Norway. In the East, Turkey stalled both Polish and German
advances, though failed to achieve the same in regards to Italy.
 
BTW, have any of you guys watched the Eurovision Song Contest this weekend?
Well, I'm totally jazzed that Germany won with a classy act and that we'll
now be hosting the event after 28 years for the first time. Berlin 2011 is gonna
be about as big a party as the World Cup was here in 2006! Smile
 
The Fall 1939 Moves are due NLT 6PM CET
on Monday, 7 June. Prelims 48 hours in advance
please. 
 
Liebe Grüsse,
 
Charles
 
----------
PLAYERS:
    BRITAIN: Michael Thompson
<psychosis(at)sky.com>
    FRANCE: Joao Queiros
<jlqueiros3(at)hotmail.com>
    GERMANY: Ghostine, Jimmy
<Jimmy.Ghostine(at)vtmednet.org>
    ITALY & NAT. SPAIN: Dirk Knemeyer
dirk(at)knemeyer.com   
    POLAND: Kyle Overby-Lee
<tomjnkns.IL(at)gmail.com>
    SOVIET UNION & REP. SPAIN: Nigel
Phillips <nephilli99(at)hotmail.com> (eliminated
Winter 193Cool
    TURKEY: Repu Maoni
<wesaq(at)list.ru>

HEADLINES:
    o BREST FALLS INTO LIMEY
HANDS
    o ANOTHER STANDOFF AT THE MARNE SAVES PARIS
    o THE DUCE'S BLACKSHIRT DIVISIONS FEND OFF TURKISH
OFFENSIVE INTO ITALY
    o NORWAY SIGNS FRIENDSHIP TREATS WITH POLAND
    o TURKISH AMPHIBIOUS LANDING NEAR SEVASTOPOL FAILS
ON ACCOUNT OF POLISH RESISTANCE
    o SPAIN LOOKS TO STRENGTHEN HER INFLUENCE IN THE
"NEAR ABROAD"
 
PRESS:
 
PIC OF THE DAY: Cover of the first Batman comic,
published in May 1939.
 
 
QUOTE OF THE DAY: "A risk is a chance
you take; if it fails you can recover. A gamble is a chance taken; if it fails,
recovery is impossible." -Erwin Rommel
 
ORDERS:
 
Britain:
F Belgium Hold
F Edinburgh - Liverpool (*Bounce*)
F
Galicia - Bay of Biscay
F Tripoli - Libyan Sea (*Fails*)
F English Channel
- Brest
F North Sea Hold
 
France:
A Gascony - Paris (*Bounce*)
F Irish Sea - Liverpool
(*Bounce*)
 
Germany:
A Austria Supports A Hungary
F Berlin - Baltic Sea
A
Denmark - Hamburg
A Hamburg - Munich
A Hungary Supports A Slovakia -
Transylvania
A Lorraine - Paris (*Bounce*)
A Slovakia - Transylvania
(*Bounce*)
F Sweden Supports A Finland - Norway
 
Italy:
A Milan - Rome
F Naples - Ionian Sea
A Slovenia Supports A
Milan - Rome
A Switzerland - Trentino
F Western Mediterranean - Tyrrhenian
Sea
 
Poland:
A Cracow - Ukraine (*Bounce*)
A Finland - Norway
A
Greater Poland - Warsaw (*Fails*)
A Latvia - Byelorussia
F Leningrad(sc) -
Gulf of Bothnia
A Moscow - Kazakhstan (*Bounce*)
A Ukraine - Moscow
(*Fails*)
A Warsaw - Cracow (*Fails*)
 
Turkey:
A Ankara - Eastern Anatolia
A Beirut Hold
A Croatia -
Rome (*Fails*)
A Istanbul - Ukraine (*Bounce*)
F Izmir - Aegean Sea
F
Persia(sc) - Arabian Sea
A Rumania Supports A Serbia - Transylvania
A
Serbia - Transylvania (*Bounce*)
A Stalingrad - Kazakhstan (*Bounce*)
F
Black Sea Convoys A Istanbul - Ukraine
F Libyan Sea Hold
 
Nationalist_Spain:
A Catalonia - Marseille
F Madrid - Gibraltar
A
Valencia - Madrid
F Bay of Biscay - South-Western Approaches
 
Egypt:
A Egypt Hold
 
Morocco:
A Morocco Hold
 
Norway:
F Norway Supports A Finland - Sweden (*Disbanded*)
 
Portugal:
F Portugal Hold
 
PENDING RETREATS: None.
 
SUPPLY CENTER OWNERSHIP (Winter 193Cool:


    Britain(6): Belgium,
Edinburgh, Liverpool, London, Netherlands, Tripoli.
   
France(2): Brest, Paris.
    Germany(Cool: Austria,
Berlin, Czechia, Denmark, Hamburg, Hungary, Munich,
Sweden.
    Italy(5): Algiers, Milan, Naples, Rome,
Switzerland.
    Poland(Cool: Cracow, Finland, Gdynia,
Latvia, Leningrad, Lithuania, Moscow, Warsaw.
   
Turkey(13): Ankara, Beirut, Bulgaria, Croatia, Greece, Iraq, Istanbul,
Izmir, Persia, Rumania, Serbia, Stalingrad, Suez.
    Nationalist Spain(4): Burgos,
Madrid, Marseille, Valencia. 
    Neutrals(4): Egypt, Morocco, Norway, Portugal.

DEADLINE SCHEDULE: (all orders are due NLT 6PM
CET (GMT+1)...not local time)
    o Fall 1939 Moves: (5) 7
June
    o Winter 1939 Retreats/Adjustments: 9
June
    o Spring 1940 Moves: (12) 14 June
    o Summer 1940 Retreats: 16 June
    o Fall 1940 Moves: (19) 21
June
    o Winter 1940 Retreats/Adjustments: 23
June
 
ORDERS MAP:
 
RESULTS MAP:

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dc311 Spring '10 Results - catsfather   (May 31, 2010, 3:38 pm)
Dear Austria, dear Germany, there are times when lying serves a purpose. One, or both of you has won this game. I give you that. But the pair of you do seem to lie just out of habit. No gain, but you need to lie.

Sev - arm?  Even if you'd got it it'd be no use. 
Everything - bul? I told you I've given up on the game and the dots are yours. Why try a clearly pointless move to get one a year early?

On 31 May 2010, at 21:07, GM Christine <dawench(at)hotmail.com> wrote:


Austria - Bruce Ray
England - Daniel Dzikowicz
France - Nick Powell
Germany - Dirk Knemeyer
Italy - Jason K
Russia - Paul Russell
Turkey - Hamish Williams

GM Notes:

Austria & Germany Draw proposal fails.


An Austrian Solo has been proposed, votes are due with the Fall orders.

Deadline:

Fall '10 is due Thursday June 3rd 2 PM CDST  (GMT -5)  1900 GMT

Map:

http://home.comcast.net/~dawench/311/31110Spring.gif


Orders and Results:

Austria:
F Adriatic Sea - Ionian Sea
A Greece - Bulgaria (*Fails*)
A Naples - Apulia
A Rumania Supports A Greece - Bulgaria
A Serbia Supports A Greece - Bulgaria
F Trieste - Albania

A Tyrolia Supports A Venice - Piedmont
F Tyrrhenian Sea - Western Mediterranean
A Venice - Piedmont

England:
F English Channel Supports F Helgoland Bight - North Sea
F Gulf of Lyon - Spain(sc)
F Helgoland Bight - North Sea

A Marseilles Supports F Gulf of Lyon - Spain(sc)
F North Sea - Norwegian Sea
A Norway Supports F Skagerrak - Sweden (*Cut*)
F Skagerrak - Sweden (*Disbanded*)
F Spain(sc) - Mid-Atlantic Ocean

Germany:

F Baltic Sea Supports F Denmark
A Belgium - Picardy
F Berlin - Kiel
A Brest Hold
F Denmark Supports F Sweden - Skagerrak
A Gascony Supports A Munich - Burgundy
F Holland - North Sea (*Fails*)
A Kiel - Ruhr

A Moscow - Sevastopol (*Fails*)
A Munich - Burgundy
A Sevastopol - Armenia (*Fails*)
A St Petersburg - Norway (*Fails*)
F Sweden - Skagerrak

Turkey:
F Aegean Sea Supports A Bulgaria
F Armenia Hold

A Bulgaria Hold
A Constantinople Supports A Bulgaria

Forced Disband:

English F Skagerrak has no retreats, disbanded.

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dc311 Spring '10 Results - notasb   (May 31, 2010, 3:07 pm)
Austria - Bruce Ray
England - Daniel Dzikowicz
France - Nick Powell
Germany - Dirk Knemeyer
Italy - Jason K
Russia - Paul Russell
Turkey - Hamish Williams

GM Notes:

Austria & Germany Draw proposal fails.

An Austrian Solo has been proposed, votes are due with the Fall orders.

Deadline:

Fall '10 is due Thursday June 3rd 2 PM CDST  (GMT -5)  1900 GMT

Map:

http://home.comcast.net/~dawench/311/31110Spring.gif

Orders and Results:

Austria:
F Adriatic Sea - Ionian Sea
A Greece - Bulgaria (*Fails*)
A Naples - Apulia
A Rumania Supports A Greece - Bulgaria
A Serbia Supports A Greece - Bulgaria
F Trieste - Albania
A Tyrolia Supports A Venice - Piedmont
F Tyrrhenian Sea - Western Mediterranean
A Venice - Piedmont

England:
F English Channel Supports F Helgoland Bight - North Sea
F Gulf of Lyon - Spain(sc)
F Helgoland Bight - North Sea
A Marseilles Supports F Gulf of Lyon - Spain(sc)
F North Sea - Norwegian Sea
A Norway Supports F Skagerrak - Sweden (*Cut*)
F Skagerrak - Sweden (*Disbanded*)
F Spain(sc) - Mid-Atlantic Ocean

Germany:
F Baltic Sea Supports F Denmark
A Belgium - Picardy
F Berlin - Kiel
A Brest Hold
F Denmark Supports F Sweden - Skagerrak
A Gascony Supports A Munich - Burgundy
F Holland - North Sea (*Fails*)
A Kiel - Ruhr
A Moscow - Sevastopol (*Fails*)
A Munich - Burgundy
A Sevastopol - Armenia (*Fails*)
A St Petersburg - Norway (*Fails*)
F Sweden - Skagerrak

Turkey:
F Aegean Sea Supports A Bulgaria
F Armenia Hold
A Bulgaria Hold
A Constantinople Supports A Bulgaria

Forced Disband:

English F Skagerrak has no retreats, disbanded.

------------

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enables you to recognize a mistake when you make it again.





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dc311 Spring '10 Results (Winter Blitz) catsfather May 31, 03:38 pm
Dear Austria, dear Germany, there are times when lying serves a purpose. One, or both of you has won this game. I give you that. But the pair of you do seem to lie just out of habit. No gain, but you need to lie.

Sev - arm?  Even if you'd got it it'd be no use. 
Everything - bul? I told you I've given up on the game and the dots are yours. Why try a clearly pointless move to get one a year early?

On 31 May 2010, at 21:07, GM Christine <dawench(at)hotmail.com> wrote:


Austria - Bruce Ray
England - Daniel Dzikowicz
France - Nick Powell
Germany - Dirk Knemeyer
Italy - Jason K
Russia - Paul Russell
Turkey - Hamish Williams

GM Notes:

Austria & Germany Draw proposal fails.


An Austrian Solo has been proposed, votes are due with the Fall orders.

Deadline:

Fall '10 is due Thursday June 3rd 2 PM CDST  (GMT -5)  1900 GMT

Map:

http://home.comcast.net/~dawench/311/31110Spring.gif


Orders and Results:

Austria:
F Adriatic Sea - Ionian Sea
A Greece - Bulgaria (*Fails*)
A Naples - Apulia
A Rumania Supports A Greece - Bulgaria
A Serbia Supports A Greece - Bulgaria
F Trieste - Albania

A Tyrolia Supports A Venice - Piedmont
F Tyrrhenian Sea - Western Mediterranean
A Venice - Piedmont

England:
F English Channel Supports F Helgoland Bight - North Sea
F Gulf of Lyon - Spain(sc)
F Helgoland Bight - North Sea

A Marseilles Supports F Gulf of Lyon - Spain(sc)
F North Sea - Norwegian Sea
A Norway Supports F Skagerrak - Sweden (*Cut*)
F Skagerrak - Sweden (*Disbanded*)
F Spain(sc) - Mid-Atlantic Ocean

Germany:

F Baltic Sea Supports F Denmark
A Belgium - Picardy
F Berlin - Kiel
A Brest Hold
F Denmark Supports F Sweden - Skagerrak
A Gascony Supports A Munich - Burgundy
F Holland - North Sea (*Fails*)
A Kiel - Ruhr

A Moscow - Sevastopol (*Fails*)
A Munich - Burgundy
A Sevastopol - Armenia (*Fails*)
A St Petersburg - Norway (*Fails*)
F Sweden - Skagerrak

Turkey:
F Aegean Sea Supports A Bulgaria
F Armenia Hold

A Bulgaria Hold
A Constantinople Supports A Bulgaria

Forced Disband:

English F Skagerrak has no retreats, disbanded.

------------

Experience is a wonderful thing. It
enables you to recognize a mistake when you make it again.





The New Busy think 9 to 5 is a cute idea. Combine multiple calendars with Hotmail. Get busy.
dc311 Spring '10 Results (Winter Blitz) catsfather May 31, 11:26 pm
Ah.  One of those emails you wake the next morning and regret sending.



I apologise to everyone, but especially to Christine, to Ray, and to
Dirk.  Hopefully we can all move towards this game's conclusion without
my mistake being a problem.



Hamish



On 31/05/10 21:38, Hamish Williams wrote:
Dear Austria, dear Germany, there are times when lying serves a
purpose. One, or both of you has won this game. I give you that. But
the pair of you do seem to lie just out of habit. No gain, but you need
to lie.



Sev - arm?  Even if you'd got it it'd be no use. 



Everything - bul? I told you I've given up on the game and the
dots are yours. Why try a clearly pointless move to get one a year
early?


On 31 May 2010, at 21:07, GM Christine <dawench(at)hotmail.com> wrote:





Austria - Bruce Ray

England - Daniel Dzikowicz

France - Nick Powell

Germany - Dirk Knemeyer

Italy - Jason K

Russia - Paul Russell

Turkey - Hamish Williams



GM Notes:



Austria & Germany Draw proposal fails.



An Austrian Solo has been proposed, votes are due with the Fall orders.



Deadline:



Fall '10 is due Thursday June 3rd 2 PM CDST  (GMT -5)  1900 GMT



Map:



http://home.comcast.net/~dawench/311/31110Spring.gif



Orders and Results:



Austria:

F Adriatic Sea - Ionian Sea

A Greece - Bulgaria (*Fails*)

A Naples - Apulia

A Rumania Supports A Greece - Bulgaria

A Serbia Supports A Greece - Bulgaria

F Trieste - Albania

A Tyrolia Supports A Venice - Piedmont

F Tyrrhenian Sea - Western Mediterranean

A Venice - Piedmont



England:

F English Channel Supports F Helgoland Bight - North Sea

F Gulf of Lyon - Spain(sc)

F Helgoland Bight - North Sea

A Marseilles Supports F Gulf of Lyon - Spain(sc)

F North Sea - Norwegian Sea

A Norway Supports F Skagerrak - Sweden (*Cut*)

F Skagerrak - Sweden (*Disbanded*)

F Spain(sc) - Mid-Atlantic Ocean



Germany:

F Baltic Sea Supports F Denmark

A Belgium - Picardy

F Berlin - Kiel

A Brest Hold

F Denmark Supports F Sweden - Skagerrak

A Gascony Supports A Munich - Burgundy

F Holland - North Sea (*Fails*)

A Kiel - Ruhr

A Moscow - Sevastopol (*Fails*)

A Munich - Burgundy

A Sevastopol - Armenia (*Fails*)

A St Petersburg - Norway (*Fails*)

F Sweden - Skagerrak



Turkey:

F Aegean Sea Supports A Bulgaria

F Armenia Hold

A Bulgaria Hold

A Constantinople Supports A Bulgaria



Forced Disband:



English F Skagerrak has no retreats, disbanded.



------------



Experience is a wonderful thing.
It enables you to recognize a mistake when you make it again.












The New Busy think 9 to 5 is a cute idea. Combine multiple
calendars with Hotmail. Get busy.
dc311 Spring '10 Results (Winter Blitz) raybrucea Jun 01, 07:14 am
When did you tell me that you had given up on the game?  I never got
that.  And when did I say that I wouldn't attack Bulgaria?
 
In a message dated 5/31/2010 4:37:49 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
catsfather(at)gmail.com writes:
Dear Austria, dear Germany, there are times when lying serves a purpose.
One, or both of you has won this game. I give you that. But the pair of you do
seem to lie just out of habit. No gain, but you need to lie.


Sev - arm?  Even if you'd got it it'd be no use. 


Everything - bul? I told you I've given up on the game and the dots are
yours. Why try a clearly pointless move to get one a year early?

On 31 May 2010, at 21:07, GM Christine <dawench(at)hotmail.com>
wrote:




Austria - Bruce Ray
England - Daniel Dzikowicz
France - Nick
Powell
Germany - Dirk Knemeyer
Italy - Jason K
Russia - Paul
Russell
Turkey - Hamish Williams

GM Notes:

Austria &
Germany Draw proposal fails.

An Austrian Solo has been proposed,
votes are due with the Fall orders.

Deadline:

Fall '10 is due
Thursday June 3rd 2 PM CDST  (GMT -5)  1900
GMT

Map:

http://home.comcast.net/~dawench/311/31110Spring.gif

Orders
and Results:

Austria:
F Adriatic Sea - Ionian Sea
A Greece -
Bulgaria (*Fails*)
A Naples - Apulia
A Rumania Supports A Greece -
Bulgaria
A Serbia Supports A Greece - Bulgaria
F Trieste -
Albania
A Tyrolia Supports A Venice - Piedmont
F Tyrrhenian Sea -
Western Mediterranean
A Venice - Piedmont

England:
F English
Channel Supports F Helgoland Bight - North Sea
F Gulf of Lyon -
Spain(sc)
F Helgoland Bight - North Sea
A Marseilles Supports F Gulf
of Lyon - Spain(sc)
F North Sea - Norwegian Sea
A Norway Supports F
Skagerrak - Sweden (*Cut*)
F Skagerrak - Sweden (*Disbanded*)
F
Spain(sc) - Mid-Atlantic Ocean

Germany:
F Baltic Sea Supports F
Denmark
A Belgium - Picardy
F Berlin - Kiel
A Brest Hold
F
Denmark Supports F Sweden - Skagerrak
A Gascony Supports A Munich -
Burgundy
F Holland - North Sea (*Fails*)
A Kiel - Ruhr
A Moscow -
Sevastopol (*Fails*)
A Munich - Burgundy
A Sevastopol - Armenia
(*Fails*)
A St Petersburg - Norway (*Fails*)
F Sweden -
Skagerrak

Turkey:
F Aegean Sea Supports A Bulgaria
F Armenia
Hold
A Bulgaria Hold
A Constantinople Supports A
Bulgaria

Forced Disband:

English F Skagerrak has no retreats,
disbanded.

------------

Experience is a wonderful thing. It enables you to
recognize a mistake when you make it again.








The New Busy think 9 to 5 is a cute idea. Combine multiple calendars with
Hotmail. Get busy.
Camel Spotting - w07 builds! - Kenshi777   (May 31, 2010, 2:57 pm)
Intersting that Arm-Che-Sar is the quickest route to the front against
Rome then (convoys included). Also that Damascus is the only Persian
home SC that allows access to Armenia. Also interesting to note that
I've used the same route to send other armies against Rome.
Just an observation Smile
B.
On 5/30/10, Alan Farrington wrote:

that army in Dam only has one purpose -- and its not to fight the Romans.

--Alan

Subject: Camel Spotting - w07 builds!
Date: Wed, 26 May 2010 20:49:52 -0500
From: mike(at)fuzzylogicllc.net
To: alley_cat_1990(at)hotmail.com; welsh_stroud(at)msn.com;
screwtape777(at)gmail.com; ponkwilliams(at)yahoo.com; thewizard.tim(at)gmail.com
CC: dc304(at)diplomaticcorp.com
















Egypt retreats to Bay

Roman F Mess goes OTB and rebuilds A Rome

Persia builds A Dam



Sorry I'm late on this one! Totally slipped my mind that I had a
game due today, with Ben sending off his reminder about Balkans, got caught
up
in a flurry of emailing there.



Enjoy!

-mike




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DC327 - Fall 1 adjudication - bielf11   (May 31, 2010, 1:00 pm)
Fall 1: While Spring was rather quiet, this Fall it seems that the city states of Ancient Greece are eager to set up camp on new ground before the winter strikes.
The Boeotians are overwhelmed by the Aetolians and forced to retreat just when they were about to finish their camp at Phocis.
The Messenians try to sneak into Elian camp through the port of Pisatis only to find that Elian scouts had discovered their intentions and prepared a warm welcome.
And the Laconians? They loose their first naval battle against joint forces of the Atticans and the Arcolians.
 
Adjudication
------------------
Aetolia:
A arcania Hold
A doris Supports F locris - phocis
F locris - phocis
 
Boeotia:
A delion - corsea
A phocis Supports F sinus corinthiucus - locris (*Dislodged*)
F sinus corinthiucus - locris
 
Attica:
A eleusis - megara
F marmora sinus - byzantium
F rhodius sinus - laconicus sinus
 
Arcolia:
F argulicus sinus Supports F rhodius sinus - laconicus sinus
A corinth Supports A orchenenus - pellea
A orchenenus - pellea
 
Laconia:
A cyn. - sparta (*Bounce*)
F laconicus sinus Hold (*Dislodged*)
A tegea - sparta (*Bounce*)
 
Messenia:
F cypurissius sinus - pisatis (*Bounce*)
A ira - megalopolis
A megalopolis - maniana
 
Elia:
A elis - achaia
A protilae - pisatis (*Bounce*)
F zazynthus sinus - italus sinus
 
 
Retreats
-------------
Laconian F laconicus sinus can retreat to no fewer than 5 areas: Messeniacus sinus or Laconia or Helos or Koidaunas or Prastos; or else OTB.
Boeotian A phocis can retreat to Opus or Helicon; or OTB.
 
Deadline for retreats is Wednesday, June 2 at 7pm GMT.
However, I will adjudicate retreats once all retreat orders are in. If you want to order Prelim Retreats you have to say so or else I assume it to be Final.
 
Frank

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Variant Creation - charlesf   (May 31, 2010, 12:47 pm)
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That's so broad a question that you'd have to
specify as to what in particular you're interested about. Design proper,
graphics software, Diplomacy software... Those are three entirely different
subjects.
 
If you want any useful hints, perhaps you should
first relate to us what gives rise to this question. Do you have any particular
project in mind?
 
Cheers,
 
Charles

[Reply]

Variant Creation (Community) Sean2010 Jun 01, 09:04 am
"If you want any useful hints, perhaps you should
first relate to us what gives rise to this question. Do you have any particular
project in mind?"

Yes, I have a thought for a Diplomacy variant (well a couple of variants), but I've never operated an idea aimed to eventually be on the computer. How would I go about doing this?
Variant Creation (Community) Kenshi777 Jun 01, 09:36 am
The map itself is the hardest and most critical component of variant
creation. The success of your variant (defined as people wanting to
play it) will be determined by how aesthetically pleasing the map
itself is, and how balanced the gameplay is.

As for aesthetics, that largely depends on where you start, and what
kind of graphic arts skills you have. In its most basic form, one
really doesn't need anything more than MS Paint and an outline map to
get started. Here's a site I use for a lot of my maps.

http://www.d-maps.com/

Of course, the more sophisticated (and successful) variant designers
use Paint Shop Pro or more advanced software to create much more
aesthetically pleasing maps. Their efforts are often rewarded in
player appeal, as very few will sign up to play on an ugly map.

Then there are the gameplay considerations. At the very least, I
recommend these rules of thumb:

1 - Each position should have roughly equal incentive to ally with
each of its immediate neighbours.

2 - Generally speaking, a good diplomatic dynamic is created in
"triangles" (groups of three powers being co-located, with buffer
zones or other disincentives sheltering them from early attack by
outside powers)

3 - Each power should have roughly equal prospects for overall victory.

Notice these are rightly labeled recommendations, not rules. Standard
Diplomacy at least partially complies with all three, but not rigidly.
I recommend #2 in particular for the first time variant designer,
because it provides a good starting point for achieving balance. One
can have the best looking map on the planet, but players will only
give it a single try and not return if they find that certain
positions (or certain alliances) are inevitable.

Finally - I can not recommend the Realpolitik adjudicator program
highly enough. It supports variants, has a very user-friendly
tutorial for the newbie variant designer, and is widespread throughout
the Diplomacy community. And of course, it's free, found here at the
creator's website -

http://realpolitik.sourceforge.net

Hope this helps -
B.

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In regards to pure variant design, also look at
unit-space ratios. You'll want round 2.0 to 2.5 spaces per unit. Go above or
below that and you'll likely run into issues. Similarly, consider stalemate
lines and consider what victory criteria make for the best gaming experience.
There are many many more similar issues of Diplomacy variant
craftsmanship.
 
If you want a truly polished variant, you'll be
working on such a project for years. It's easy to draw and design
a Diplomacy variant in no time. But if it's supposed to be really worth
playing, you're going to have to devote a lot of time to it as I think Ben will
readily attest.
 
As for the graphics side of things, use a
reasonably sophisticated graphics programme. Sure, you can do stuff in MS
Paint. But that's an incredibly primitive tool that only a masochistic variant
designer would use these days. I use Paint Shop Pro. Not the most sophisticated
software, but I've been using it for years so familiarity is a big
plus.
 
You needn't worry about Realpolitik implementation
before you've designed and sufficiently polished your variant. It's pretty much
the very last step.
 
Charles
dc286 ~ Vista Seven - sgttodd   (May 31, 2010, 10:35 am)
Remember
The deadline for Fall 1909 orders is:, Tuesday, June 2nd (at) 2359 UTC.
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Remember!



The deadline for Fall 1904 orders is: TOMORROW, June 1st (at) 2359 UTC.

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Camel Spotting - w07 builds! - AlanRFarrington   (May 30, 2010, 11:52 pm)
that army in Dam only has one purpose -- and its not to fight the Romans.

--Alan

Subject: Camel Spotting - w07 builds!
Date: Wed, 26 May 2010 20:49:52 -0500
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Egypt retreats to Bay
Roman F Mess goes OTB and rebuilds A Rome
Persia builds A Dam
 
Sorry I'm late on this one!  Totally slipped my mind that I had a
game due today, with Ben sending off his reminder about Balkans, got caught up
in a flurry of emailing there.
 
Enjoy!
-mike
 

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24 Hours - Samnuva   (May 30, 2010, 10:25 pm)
24 Hours until deadline time.

[Reply]

Realpolitik help - Sean2010   (May 30, 2010, 2:14 pm)
PC I think. It's a emachine with Windows XP.

[Reply]

Variant Creation - Sean2010   (May 30, 2010, 2:13 pm)
How do I go about creating a variant?

[Reply]

Variant Creation (Community) charlesf May 31, 12:47 pm
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That's so broad a question that you'd have to
specify as to what in particular you're interested about. Design proper,
graphics software, Diplomacy software... Those are three entirely different
subjects.
 
If you want any useful hints, perhaps you should
first relate to us what gives rise to this question. Do you have any particular
project in mind?
 
Cheers,
 
Charles
Variant Creation (Community) Sean2010 Jun 01, 09:04 am
"If you want any useful hints, perhaps you should
first relate to us what gives rise to this question. Do you have any particular
project in mind?"

Yes, I have a thought for a Diplomacy variant (well a couple of variants), but I've never operated an idea aimed to eventually be on the computer. How would I go about doing this?
Variant Creation (Community) Kenshi777 Jun 01, 09:36 am
The map itself is the hardest and most critical component of variant
creation. The success of your variant (defined as people wanting to
play it) will be determined by how aesthetically pleasing the map
itself is, and how balanced the gameplay is.

As for aesthetics, that largely depends on where you start, and what
kind of graphic arts skills you have. In its most basic form, one
really doesn't need anything more than MS Paint and an outline map to
get started. Here's a site I use for a lot of my maps.

http://www.d-maps.com/

Of course, the more sophisticated (and successful) variant designers
use Paint Shop Pro or more advanced software to create much more
aesthetically pleasing maps. Their efforts are often rewarded in
player appeal, as very few will sign up to play on an ugly map.

Then there are the gameplay considerations. At the very least, I
recommend these rules of thumb:

1 - Each position should have roughly equal incentive to ally with
each of its immediate neighbours.

2 - Generally speaking, a good diplomatic dynamic is created in
"triangles" (groups of three powers being co-located, with buffer
zones or other disincentives sheltering them from early attack by
outside powers)

3 - Each power should have roughly equal prospects for overall victory.

Notice these are rightly labeled recommendations, not rules. Standard
Diplomacy at least partially complies with all three, but not rigidly.
I recommend #2 in particular for the first time variant designer,
because it provides a good starting point for achieving balance. One
can have the best looking map on the planet, but players will only
give it a single try and not return if they find that certain
positions (or certain alliances) are inevitable.

Finally - I can not recommend the Realpolitik adjudicator program
highly enough. It supports variants, has a very user-friendly
tutorial for the newbie variant designer, and is widespread throughout
the Diplomacy community. And of course, it's free, found here at the
creator's website -

http://realpolitik.sourceforge.net

Hope this helps -
B.

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Variant Creation (Community) charlesf Jun 01, 12:10 pm
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In regards to pure variant design, also look at
unit-space ratios. You'll want round 2.0 to 2.5 spaces per unit. Go above or
below that and you'll likely run into issues. Similarly, consider stalemate
lines and consider what victory criteria make for the best gaming experience.
There are many many more similar issues of Diplomacy variant
craftsmanship.
 
If you want a truly polished variant, you'll be
working on such a project for years. It's easy to draw and design
a Diplomacy variant in no time. But if it's supposed to be really worth
playing, you're going to have to devote a lot of time to it as I think Ben will
readily attest.
 
As for the graphics side of things, use a
reasonably sophisticated graphics programme. Sure, you can do stuff in MS
Paint. But that's an incredibly primitive tool that only a masochistic variant
designer would use these days. I use Paint Shop Pro. Not the most sophisticated
software, but I've been using it for years so familiarity is a big
plus.
 
You needn't worry about Realpolitik implementation
before you've designed and sufficiently polished your variant. It's pretty much
the very last step.
 
Charles
Realpolitik help - dknemeyer   (May 30, 2010, 2:11 pm)
Mac or PC Sean?

[Reply]

Realpolitik help (Help & Suggestions) Sean2010 May 30, 02:14 pm
PC I think. It's a emachine with Windows XP.
Realpolitik help - Sean2010   (May 30, 2010, 2:10 pm)
How do I go about downloading and unzipping variants that didn't come with the initial realpolitik download?

[Reply]

Realpolitik help (Help & Suggestions) dknemeyer May 30, 02:11 pm
Mac or PC Sean?
Realpolitik help (Help & Suggestions) Sean2010 May 30, 02:14 pm
PC I think. It's a emachine with Windows XP.
dc311 Spring reminder - notasb   (May 30, 2010, 12:23 pm)
Spring '10, and vote on Austria Germany draw, are due Monday May 31st 2 pm cdst  (GMT -5) 1900 GMT

If I haven't acknowledged your orders I haven't received them.

Christine

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DC313 Winter 1909 Adjudication - Samnuva   (May 29, 2010, 12:43 pm)
Sorry about that. I litterally fell asleap at my computer last night.
England Retreats Eng-Wal
England:
Build F London
Italy:
Remove A Naples
Russia:
Build A St Petersburg
Turkey:
Build A Constantinople

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