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NNIGTFML s1839 results! - packrat   (Nov 23, 2009, 9:06 pm)
I don't know if anyone else is having issues with Mike's map, but
I ran the orders on my own and the map I have is attached. Use
it or not, it's up to you. Perhaps Mike can give it his seal of approval.



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DC 281 Spring 1901 - lord_granite   (Nov 23, 2009, 8:28 pm)
Thursday noon.

MJ

On 23-Nov-09, at 8:14 PM, William McQuaid wrote:

Thursday noonish EST works for me. Or any time, really, as long as I have notice.


From: William Fleming <wtfleming(at)msn.com ([email]wtfleming(at)msn.com[/email])>
To: blueraider0(at)gmail.com ([email]blueraider0(at)gmail.com[/email]); untitled36(at)yahoo.com ([email]untitled36(at)yahoo.com[/email])
Cc: psychosis(at)sky.com ([email]psychosis(at)sky.com[/email]); matthew.jones.d(at)gmail.com ([email]matthew.jones.d(at)gmail.com[/email]); elpresidente112(at)yahoo.ca ([email]elpresidente112(at)yahoo.ca[/email]); krudge(at)goldenwestradio.com ([email]krudge(at)goldenwestradio.com[/email]); edbailey1946(at)yahoo.com ([email]edbailey1946(at)yahoo.com[/email]); mike(at)fuzzylogicllc.net ([email]mike(at)fuzzylogicllc.net[/email]); dc281(at)diplomaticcorp.com ([email]dc281(at)diplomaticcorp.com[/email])
Sent: Mon, November 23, 2009 9:01:12 PM
Subject: RE: DC 281 Spring 1901

I agree...Thursday at noon EST sounds good.

Date: Mon, 23 Nov 2009 18:11:34 -0500
Subject: Re: DC 281 Spring 1901
From: blueraider0(at)gmail.com ([email]blueraider0(at)gmail.com[/email])
To: untitled36(at)yahoo.com ([email]untitled36(at)yahoo.com[/email])
CC: psychosis(at)sky.com ([email]psychosis(at)sky.com[/email]); matthew.jones.d(at)gmail.com ([email]matthew.jones.d(at)gmail.com[/email]); elpresidente112(at)yahoo.ca ([email]elpresidente112(at)yahoo.ca[/email]); krudge(at)goldenwestradio.com ([email]krudge(at)goldenwestradio.com[/email]); edbailey1946(at)yahoo.com ([email]edbailey1946(at)yahoo.com[/email]); wtfleming(at)msn.com ([email]wtfleming(at)msn.com[/email]); mike(at)fuzzylogicllc.net ([email]mike(at)fuzzylogicllc.net[/email]); dc281(at)diplomaticcorp.com ([email]dc281(at)diplomaticcorp.com[/email])

I'm ok, except I'd like to point out that Thursday is Thanksgiving, at least for us Americans. Might I suggest an extension until Thursday morning/noontime? That gives a bonus day but doesn't put us Yanks at any disadvantage against any last minute squabbling by you slimy Brits/Canadians/etc. It also means, after a wonderful day of family, we'll all come home to the grim realities of a cruel, heartless, backstabbing and lying world. How wonderful!

-Maslow


On Mon, Nov 23, 2009 at 5:55 PM, John R <untitled36(at)yahoo.com ([email]untitled36(at)yahoo.com[/email])> wrote:
[quote:71707e1503]Can we extend the deadline? I've been at a conference this weekend, and wi-fi was $10 a day, which I consider a bit outrageous. So I've been out of touch. Can we have another few days? And sorry everyone, I have not bee ignoring you. Right now I am on a 20 minute complimentary wi-fi at O'hare, so can't respond right now either. Thanks all. Sorry for the delay. I thought I'd have access.

John






From: Michael Thompson <psychosis(at)sky.com ([email]psychosis(at)sky.com[/email])>
To: blueraider0(at)gmail.com ([email]blueraider0(at)gmail.com[/email]); matthew.jones.d(at)gmail.com ([email]matthew.jones.d(at)gmail.com[/email]); elpresidente112(at)yahoo.ca ([email]elpresidente112(at)yahoo.ca[/email]); krudge(at)goldenwestradio.com ([email]krudge(at)goldenwestradio.com[/email]); edbailey1946(at)yahoo.com ([email]edbailey1946(at)yahoo.com[/email]); wtfleming(at)msn.com ([email]wtfleming(at)msn.com[/email]);untitled36(at)yahoo.com ([email]untitled36(at)yahoo.com[/email])
Cc: mike(at)fuzzylogicllc.net ([email]mike(at)fuzzylogicllc.net[/email]); dc281(at)diplomaticcorp.com ([email]dc281(at)diplomaticcorp.com[/email])
Sent: Thu, November 19, 2009 3:03:21 PM
Subject: DC 281 Spring 1901



And the Spring 1901 moves are in...many thanks to all for getting moves in on time, and for getting us the first season in successfully

And a very interesting set of moves it is too, with a mix of orthodox and unorthodox openings...in the West, France seems to be attacking everyone, but finds himself bounced in Burgundy, whilst England commits to the north, and Germany opens fairly neutrally.

In the East, Austria annexes Galicia, but finds two Italian forces knocking on the door in Trieste. Russia sends an army north, and a bounce in the Black Sea suggests Russia and Turkey haven't resolved their differences

Attached are the RealPolitick file for the game, and files detailing the Spring moves and resolution of the moves. The game page on the DC website has also been updated.

We move straight on to Fall 1901, for which the deadline is Tuesday 24th November, 2100GMT

Michael

Austria:
A Budapest - Serbia
F Trieste - Albania
A Vienna - Galicia

England:
F Edinburgh - Norwegian Sea
A Liverpool - Edinburgh
F London - North Sea

France:
F Brest - English Channel
A Marseilles - Piedmont
A Paris - Burgundy (*Bounce*)

Germany:
A Berlin - Kiel
F Kiel - Denmark
A Munich - Burgundy (*Bounce*)

Italy:
F Naples - Tyrrhenian Sea
A Rome - Venice
A Venice - Tyrolia

Russia:
A Moscow - St Petersburg
F Sevastopol - Black Sea (*Bounce*)
F St Petersburg(sc) - Gulf of Bothnia
A Warsaw - Ukraine

Turkey:
F Ankara - Black Sea (*Bounce*)
A Constantinople - Bulgaria
A Smyrna Hold

Players:
Austria...John Reside untitled36(at)yahoo.com ([email]untitled36(at)yahoo.com[/email])
England...Will McQuaid elpresidente112(at)yahoo.ca ([email]elpresidente112(at)yahoo.ca[/email])
France...Kyle Rudge krudge(at)goldenwestradio.com ([email]krudge(at)goldenwestradio.com[/email])
Germany...Ed Bailey EdBailey1946(at)yahoo.com ([email]EdBailey1946(at)yahoo.com[/email])
Italy...Alex Maslow blueraider0(at)gmail.com ([email]blueraider0(at)gmail.com[/email])
Russia...matthew.jones.d(at)gmail.com ([email]Russia...matthew.jones.d(at)gmail.com[/email])
Turkey...Will Fleming wtfleming(at)msn.com ([email]wtfleming(at)msn.com[/email])











--
"It's like in the great stories, Mr. Frodo. The ones that really mattered. Full of darkness and danger they were. and sometimes you didn't want to know the end because how could the end be happy? How could the world go back to the way it was when so much bad had happened? But in the end, it's only a passing thing. The shadow, even the darkness must pass. A new day will come. And when the sun shines it will shine out the clearer. Those were the stories that stayed with you - That meant something. Even if you were too small to understand why. But I think, Mr. Frodo, I do understand. I know now. Folk in those stories had lots of chances of turning back only they didn't. They kept going because they were holding onto something."
"What are we holding onto, Sam?"
"That there's some good in this world, Mr. Frodo. And it's worth fighting for."

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DC 281 Spring 1901 - SensFan33   (Nov 23, 2009, 8:13 pm)
Thursday noonish EST works for me. Or any time, really, as long as I have notice.


From: William Fleming <wtfleming(at)msn.com>
To: blueraider0(at)gmail.com; untitled36(at)yahoo.com
Cc: psychosis(at)sky.com; matthew.jones.d(at)gmail.com; elpresidente112(at)yahoo.ca; krudge(at)goldenwestradio.com; edbailey1946(at)yahoo.com; mike(at)fuzzylogicllc.net; dc281(at)diplomaticcorp.com
Sent: Mon, November 23, 2009 9:01:12 PM
Subject: RE: DC 281 Spring 1901

I agree...Thursday at noon EST sounds good.

Date: Mon, 23 Nov 2009 18:11:34 -0500
Subject: Re: DC 281 Spring 1901
From: blueraider0(at)gmail.com
To: untitled36(at)yahoo.com
CC: psychosis(at)sky.com; matthew.jones.d(at)gmail.com; elpresidente112(at)yahoo.ca; krudge(at)goldenwestradio.com; edbailey1946(at)yahoo.com; wtfleming(at)msn.com; mike(at)fuzzylogicllc.net; dc281(at)diplomaticcorp.com

I'm ok, except I'd like to point out that Thursday is Thanksgiving, at least for us Americans. Might I suggest an extension until Thursday morning/noontime? That gives a bonus day but doesn't put us Yanks at any disadvantage against any last minute squabbling by you slimy Brits/Canadians/etc. It also means, after a wonderful day of family, we'll all come home to the grim realities of a cruel, heartless, backstabbing and lying world. How wonderful!

-Maslow


On Mon, Nov 23, 2009 at 5:55 PM, John R <untitled36(at)yahoo.com ([email]untitled36(at)yahoo.com[/email])> wrote:

Can we extend the deadline? I've been at a conference this weekend, and wi-fi was $10 a day, which I consider a bit outrageous. So I've been out of touch. Can we have another few days? And sorry everyone, I have not bee ignoring you. Right now I am on a 20 minute complimentary wi-fi at O'hare, so can't respond right now either. Thanks all. Sorry for the delay. I thought I'd have access.

John






From: Michael Thompson <psychosis(at)sky.com ([email]psychosis(at)sky.com[/email])>
To: blueraider0(at)gmail.com ([email]blueraider0(at)gmail.com[/email]); matthew.jones.d(at)gmail.com ([email]matthew.jones.d(at)gmail.com[/email]); elpresidente112(at)yahoo.ca ([email]elpresidente112(at)yahoo.ca[/email]); krudge(at)goldenwestradio.com ([email]krudge(at)goldenwestradio.com[/email]); edbailey1946(at)yahoo.com ([email]edbailey1946(at)yahoo.com[/email]); wtfleming(at)msn.com ([email]wtfleming(at)msn.com[/email]); untitled36(at)yahoo.com ([email]untitled36(at)yahoo.com[/email])
Cc: mike(at)fuzzylogicllc.net ([email]mike(at)fuzzylogicllc.net[/email]); dc281(at)diplomaticcorp.com ([email]dc281(at)diplomaticcorp.com[/email])
Sent: Thu, November 19, 2009 3:03:21 PM
Subject: DC 281 Spring 1901



And the Spring 1901 moves are in...many thanks to all for getting moves in on time, and for getting us the first season in successfully

And a very interesting set of moves it is too, with a mix of orthodox and unorthodox openings...in the West, France seems to be attacking everyone, but finds himself bounced in Burgundy, whilst England commits to the north, and Germany opens fairly neutrally.

In the East, Austria annexes Galicia, but finds two Italian forces knocking on the door in Trieste. Russia sends an army north, and a bounce in the Black Sea suggests Russia and Turkey haven't resolved their differences

Attached are the RealPolitick file for the game, and files detailing the Spring moves and resolution of the moves. The game page on the DC website has also been updated.

We move straight on to Fall 1901, for which the deadline is Tuesday 24th November, 2100GMT

Michael

Austria:
A Budapest - Serbia
F Trieste - Albania
A Vienna - Galicia

England:
F Edinburgh - Norwegian Sea
A Liverpool - Edinburgh
F London - North Sea

France:
F Brest - English Channel
A Marseilles - Piedmont
A Paris - Burgundy (*Bounce*)

Germany:
A Berlin - Kiel
F Kiel - Denmark
A Munich - Burgundy (*Bounce*)

Italy:
F Naples - Tyrrhenian Sea
A Rome - Venice
A Venice - Tyrolia

Russia:
A Moscow - St Petersburg
F Sevastopol - Black Sea (*Bounce*)
F St Petersburg(sc) - Gulf of Bothnia
A Warsaw - Ukraine

Turkey:
F Ankara - Black Sea (*Bounce*)
A Constantinople - Bulgaria
A Smyrna Hold

Players:
Austria...John Reside untitled36(at)yahoo.com ([email]untitled36(at)yahoo.com[/email])
England...Will McQuaid elpresidente112(at)yahoo.ca ([email]elpresidente112(at)yahoo.ca[/email])
France...Kyle Rudge krudge(at)goldenwestradio.com ([email]krudge(at)goldenwestradio.com[/email])
Germany...Ed Bailey EdBailey1946(at)yahoo.com ([email]EdBailey1946(at)yahoo.com[/email])
Italy...Alex Maslow blueraider0(at)gmail.com ([email]blueraider0(at)gmail.com[/email])
Russia...matthew.jones.d(at)gmail.com ([email]Russia...matthew.jones.d(at)gmail.com[/email])
Turkey...Will Fleming wtfleming(at)msn.com ([email]wtfleming(at)msn.com[/email])











--
"It's like in the great stories, Mr. Frodo. The ones that really mattered. Full of darkness and danger they were. and sometimes you didn't want to know the end because how could the end be happy? How could the world go back to the way it was when so much bad had happened? But in the end, it's only a passing thing. The shadow, even the darkness must pass. A new day will come. And when the sun shines it will shine out the clearer. Those were the stories that stayed with you - That meant something. Even if you were too small to understand why. But I think, Mr. Frodo, I do understand. I know now. Folk in those stories had lots of chances of turning back only they didn't. They kept going because they were holding onto something."
"What are we holding onto, Sam?"
"That there's some good in this world, Mr. Frodo. And it's worth fighting for."

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DC267 Summer 2014 Results - MattTheLesser   (Nov 23, 2009, 8:12 pm)
More of the same this season as Denmark continues to push west,
dislodging Russia from Lapland and Arctic Mid-Ocean Ridge and claiming
Western Siberia, putting the Danes just three centers short of a solo.
The Canadians and Americans also pick up a center each, although the
latter, with no home centers, will still only have the one fleet with
which to work come the fall. Norway also manages to remain alive after
the Danes decide they prefer the Kara Sea to the Barents Sea.

There are two retreats, both for Russia: Russian F Lapland may retreat
to Anchorage or OTB, and Russian A Arctic Mid-Ocean Ridge may retreat to
Arctic Wasteland or OTB. These retreats and the Summer 2014 adjustments
(see below the adjudication) will be due this Wednesday, November 25, at
9 pm eastern.

Also, the two-way draw proposal was voted down and we have a new
proposal for a Danish solo. Votes on this proposal are not due until
the deadline for Fall 2014 (most likely Monday, November 30), but if I
have votes from everyone by Wednesday I will post the results with the
adjustments.

Matt

Adjudication:

Canada:
A Beaufort Sea - Barrow
A Churchill - Baffin Island
A Queen Elizabeth Islands Hold
F Western Canada - Gulf of Alaska
A Yukon Hold

Denmark:
F Barents Sea - Kara Sea
F Longyearbyen Hold
F North Atlantic Ocean Hold
A North Pole Supports A Yermak Plateau - Arctic Mid-Ocean Ridge
A Northwest Greenland Supports A Yermak Plateau - Arctic Mid-Ocean Ridge
F Norwegian Sea Supports F Tromso
A Oslo - Lapland
F Tromso Supports A Oslo - Lapland
A Ural Mountains - Western Siberia
A Yermak Plateau - Arctic Mid-Ocean Ridge

Norway:
F White Sea Supports A Oslo - Lapland

Russia:
F Anchorage Supports F Gulf of Alaska - Juneau
A Arctic Mid-Ocean Ridge - Northwest Greenland (*Fails*) (*Dislodged*)
F Gulf of Alaska - Juneau
F Lapland - Tromso (*Fails*) (*Dislodged*)
A Laptev Sea - Yakutsk

USA:
F Magadan Hold

Adjustments due:

Canada: Build 1

Denmark: Build 1

Russia: Even / Build 1 if retreat 1 OTB / Build 2 if retreat 2 OTB

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DC 281 Spring 1901 - wtfleming at msn.com   (Nov 23, 2009, 8:00 pm)
I agree...Thursday at noon EST sounds good.

Date: Mon, 23 Nov 2009 18:11:34 -0500
Subject: Re: DC 281 Spring 1901
From: blueraider0(at)gmail.com
To: untitled36(at)yahoo.com
CC: psychosis(at)sky.com; matthew.jones.d(at)gmail.com; elpresidente112(at)yahoo.ca; krudge(at)goldenwestradio.com; edbailey1946(at)yahoo.com; wtfleming(at)msn.com; mike(at)fuzzylogicllc.net; dc281(at)diplomaticcorp.com

I'm ok, except I'd like to point out that Thursday is Thanksgiving, at least for us Americans. Might I suggest an extension until Thursday morning/noontime? That gives a bonus day but doesn't put us Yanks at any disadvantage against any last minute squabbling by you slimy Brits/Canadians/etc. It also means, after a wonderful day of family, we'll all come home to the grim realities of a cruel, heartless, backstabbing and lying world. How wonderful!

-Maslow


On Mon, Nov 23, 2009 at 5:55 PM, John R <untitled36(at)yahoo.com ([email]untitled36(at)yahoo.com[/email])> wrote:

Can we extend the deadline? I've been at a conference this weekend, and wi-fi was $10 a day, which I consider a bit outrageous. So I've been out of touch. Can we have another few days? And sorry everyone, I have not bee ignoring you. Right now I am on a 20 minute complimentary wi-fi at O'hare, so can't respond right now either. Thanks all. Sorry for the delay. I thought I'd have access.

John






From: Michael Thompson <psychosis(at)sky.com ([email]psychosis(at)sky.com[/email])>
To: blueraider0(at)gmail.com ([email]blueraider0(at)gmail.com[/email]); matthew.jones.d(at)gmail.com ([email]matthew.jones.d(at)gmail.com[/email]); elpresidente112(at)yahoo.ca ([email]elpresidente112(at)yahoo.ca[/email]); krudge(at)goldenwestradio.com ([email]krudge(at)goldenwestradio.com[/email]); edbailey1946(at)yahoo.com ([email]edbailey1946(at)yahoo.com[/email]); wtfleming(at)msn.com ([email]wtfleming(at)msn.com[/email]); untitled36(at)yahoo.com ([email]untitled36(at)yahoo.com[/email])
Cc: mike(at)fuzzylogicllc.net ([email]mike(at)fuzzylogicllc.net[/email]); dc281(at)diplomaticcorp.com ([email]dc281(at)diplomaticcorp.com[/email])
Sent: Thu, November 19, 2009 3:03:21 PM
Subject: DC 281 Spring 1901



And the Spring 1901 moves are in...many thanks to all for getting moves in on time, and for getting us the first season in successfully

And a very interesting set of moves it is too, with a mix of orthodox and unorthodox openings...in the West, France seems to be attacking everyone, but finds himself bounced in Burgundy, whilst England commits to the north, and Germany opens fairly neutrally.

In the East, Austria annexes Galicia, but finds two Italian forces knocking on the door in Trieste. Russia sends an army north, and a bounce in the Black Sea suggests Russia and Turkey haven't resolved their differences

Attached are the RealPolitick file for the game, and files detailing the Spring moves and resolution of the moves. The game page on the DC website has also been updated.

We move straight on to Fall 1901, for which the deadline is Tuesday 24th November, 2100GMT

Michael

Austria:
A Budapest - Serbia
F Trieste - Albania
A Vienna - Galicia

England:
F Edinburgh - Norwegian Sea
A Liverpool - Edinburgh
F London - North Sea

France:
F Brest - English Channel
A Marseilles - Piedmont
A Paris - Burgundy (*Bounce*)

Germany:
A Berlin - Kiel
F Kiel - Denmark
A Munich - Burgundy (*Bounce*)

Italy:
F Naples - Tyrrhenian Sea
A Rome - Venice
A Venice - Tyrolia

Russia:
A Moscow - St Petersburg
F Sevastopol - Black Sea (*Bounce*)
F St Petersburg(sc) - Gulf of Bothnia
A Warsaw - Ukraine

Turkey:
F Ankara - Black Sea (*Bounce*)
A Constantinople - Bulgaria
A Smyrna Hold

Players:
Austria...John Reside untitled36(at)yahoo.com ([email]untitled36(at)yahoo.com[/email])
England...Will McQuaid elpresidente112(at)yahoo.ca ([email]elpresidente112(at)yahoo.ca[/email])
France...Kyle Rudge krudge(at)goldenwestradio.com ([email]krudge(at)goldenwestradio.com[/email])
Germany...Ed Bailey EdBailey1946(at)yahoo.com ([email]EdBailey1946(at)yahoo.com[/email])
Italy...Alex Maslow blueraider0(at)gmail.com ([email]blueraider0(at)gmail.com[/email])
Russia...matthew.jones.d(at)gmail.com ([email]Russia...matthew.jones.d(at)gmail.com[/email])
Turkey...Will Fleming wtfleming(at)msn.com ([email]wtfleming(at)msn.com[/email])











--
"It's like in the great stories, Mr. Frodo. The ones that really mattered. Full of darkness and danger they were. and sometimes you didn't want to know the end because how could the end be happy? How could the world go back to the way it was when so much bad had happened? But in the end, it's only a passing thing. The shadow, even the darkness must pass. A new day will come. And when the sun shines it will shine out the clearer. Those were the stories that stayed with you - That meant something. Even if you were too small to understand why. But I think, Mr. Frodo, I do understand. I know now. Folk in those stories had lots of chances of turning back only they didn't. They kept going because they were holding onto something."
"What are we holding onto, Sam?"
"That there's some good in this world, Mr. Frodo. And it's worth fighting for."
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DC 262: Angstskrik - Fall 831 Adjudication - NickHiggins   (Nov 23, 2009, 5:42 pm)
okey dokey


From: Packrat <brn2dip(at)yahoo.com>
To: Benjamin Hester <screwtape777(at)gmail.com>; captain_sicarius(at)hotmail.com; congressofvienna1814(at)yahoo.com; dc262(at)diplomaticcorp.com; gbimmerle(at)gmail.com; githraine(at)yahoo.com; kelly058(at)verizon.net; mike(at)fuzzylogicllc.net; mike(at)sims-family.net; ndeily(at)yahoo.com; nephilli99(at)hotmail.com
Sent: Mon, November 23, 2009 5:38:24 PM
Subject: Re: DC 262: Angstskrik - Fall 831 Adjudication

yes.


From: Benjamin Hester <screwtape777(at)gmail.com>
To: brn2dip(at)yahoo.com; captain_sicarius(at)hotmail.com; congressofvienna1814(at)yahoo.com; dc262(at)diplomaticcorp.com; gbimmerle(at)gmail.com; githraine(at)yahoo.com; kelly058(at)verizon.net; mike(at)fuzzylogicllc.net; mike(at)sims-family.net; ndeily(at)yahoo.com; nephilli99(at)hotmail.com
Sent: Mon, November 23, 2009 11:38:56 AM
Subject: Re: DC 262: Angstskrik - Fall 831 Adjudication

I have received prelims of all required adjustments. I am willing to
adjudicate early before I depart on Tuesday if all remaining players
(Norse/Danes/Anglo-Saxons/Gaels/Scots) agree. Please email me before
noon Tuesday to vote in favor or against this proposal.

I know Thanksgiving is a great time for Dip, I'd rather give you all a
Spring season to enjoy.

If I receive five yes votes, I will adjudicate immediately. If I
receive any no votes or receive less than five votes, the Monday, Nov
30 1700 EST deadline for Winter 831 will stand.

B.

On 11/19/09, Benjamin Hester <screwtape777(at)gmail.com ([email]screwtape777(at)gmail.com[/email])> wrote:

Honored Kings of the Dark Ages:

Many pitched battles rage across the continent and on the high seas
this fall, but few result in a transfer of dots. The Scots regain the
North Sea over Danish opposition, though the Danes advance their
fleets successfully along the coast. The Danes also advance
successfully in the only transfer of dots this season, seizing
Rogaland and Hordaland. Meanwhile, back in the south, the
Anglo-Saxons advance along the coast to enter the fray in the central
seas...

We bid farewell to our Breton player this season, as his last SC falls
to the Anglo-Saxons. A big thank you to Matt for playing Dip as it
should be, and fighting to the very finish. You are welcome to a seat
in any future games I GM. I would appreciate an EOG statement from
both you (and Mark!) if you are willing to provide one.

No retreats needed, so we move straight to the next deadline for
Winter 831, which will be extended until Monday, November 30th for the
US Thanksgiving Day holiday.

DC 262 Player List:

Nick Higgins - Cyning of the Angles and Saxons (Anglo-Saxons)
congressofvienna1814 AT yahoo DOT com

Matthew Kelly - Brenin of the Brythons (Britons)
kelly058 AT verizon DOT net

Gregory Bim-Merle - Kong of the Dani (Danes)
gbimmerle AT gmail DOT com

Nathan Deily - Ard Rí na hÉireann (Gaels)
ndeily AT yahoo DOT com

Scott Troemel - Kong of the Norge (Norse)
brn2dip AT yahoo DOT com

Nigel Phillips - Rí Alban (Scots)
nephilli99 AT hotmail DOT com

Mark Duffield - Konung of the Suetidi (Swedes)
captain_sicarius AT hotmail DOT com

and me, your humble GM, B. (Benjamin Hester)
screwtape777 AT gmail DOT com

Orders:

Gaels:

F Connaught - Hebridean Sea
F Dyfed Hold
F Gaelic Sea Convoys A Leinster - Pengwern
A Gwynned Supports A Leinster - Pengwern
A Leinster - Pengwern
F Ulster Supports F Connaught - Hebridean Sea

Scots:

A Dal Riada Supports F North Channel - Strathclyde
A Deira Supports A Mercia
A Mercia Supports A Deira
F Moray Firth Supports F West Frisian Coast - North Sea
F North Channel - Strathclyde
F Scapa Flow Hold
F West Frisian Coast - North Sea

Bretons:

A Chester - Mercia

Norse:

A Jamtland Supports A Opplandene - Varmland
F Lappland(wc) Hold
F Norwegian Sea - Trondelag
A Opplandene - Varmland
F Rogaland Coast - Hordaland

AngloSaxons:

F Brittany - English Channel
F English Channel - Strait of Dover
A Kent Hold
A Neustria - Austrasia
A Powys Hold

Danes:

F Agder - Rogaland
A Austrasia Supports F North Frisian Coast - Frisia
F Bay of Bothnia - Lappland(ec)
F Jelling(wc) Supports F Ribe(wc) - North Frisian Coast
F Kattegat - Skagerrak
F North Frisian Coast - Frisia
F Ribe(wc) - North Frisian Coast
F Rogaland - Hordaland
F Skagerrak - North Sea
A Svear Supports A Varmland
A Varmland Supports A Vestfold
F Viborg Supports F Kattegat - Skagerrak
A Vestfold Supports F Rogaland - Hordaland

Results:

Gaels:

F Connaught - Hebridean Sea
F Dyfed Hold
F Gaelic Sea Convoys A Leinster - Pengwern
A Gwynned Supports A Leinster - Pengwern
A Leinster - Pengwern
F Ulster Supports F Connaught - Hebridean Sea

Scots:

A Dal Riada Supports F North Channel - Strathclyde
A Deira Supports A Mercia
A Mercia Supports A Deira (*Cut*)
F Moray Firth Supports F West Frisian Coast - North Sea
F North Channel - Strathclyde
F Scapa Flow Hold
F West Frisian Coast - North Sea

Bretons:

A Chester - Mercia (*Fails*)

Norse:

A Jamtland Supports A Opplandene - Varmland
F Lappland(wc) Hold
F Norwegian Sea - Trondelag
A Opplandene - Varmland (*Fails*)
F Rogaland Coast - Hordaland (*Fails*)

AngloSaxons:

F Brittany - English Channel
F English Channel - Strait of Dover
A Kent Hold
A Neustria - Austrasia (*Fails*)
A Powys Hold

Danes:

F Agder - Rogaland
A Austrasia Supports F North Frisian Coast - Frisia (*Cut*)
F Bay of Bothnia - Lappland(ec) (*Fails*)
F Jelling(wc) Supports F Ribe(wc) - North Frisian Coast
F Kattegat - Skagerrak (*Fails*)
F North Frisian Coast - Frisia
F Ribe(wc) - North Frisian Coast
F Rogaland - Hordaland
F Skagerrak - North Sea (*Fails*)
A Svear Supports A Varmland
A Varmland Supports A Vestfold (*Cut*)
F Viborg Supports F Kattegat - Skagerrak (*Fails*)
A Vestfold Supports F Rogaland - Hordaland

Winter Adjustments:

Bretons:

Remove A Chester

Norse:

Remove
Remove

AngloSaxons:

Build

Danes:

Build
Build

Status:

Gaels: Supp 6 Unit 6 Build 0
Scots: Supp 7 Unit 7 Build 0
Bretons: Supp 0 Unit 1 Remove 1
Norse: Supp 3 Unit 5 Remove 2
AngloSaxons: Supp 6 Unit 5 Build 1
Danes: Supp 16 Unit 13 Build 2
Swedes: Supp 0 Unit 0 Build 0



Thanks!
B.

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DC 281 Spring 1901 - blueraider0 at gmail.com   (Nov 23, 2009, 5:11 pm)
I'm ok, except I'd like to point out that Thursday is Thanksgiving, at least for us Americans.  Might I suggest an extension until Thursday morning/noontime?  That gives a bonus day but doesn't put us Yanks at any disadvantage against any last minute squabbling by you slimy Brits/Canadians/etc.  It also means, after a wonderful day of family, we'll all come home to the grim realities of a cruel, heartless, backstabbing and lying world.  How wonderful!
 
-Maslow


On Mon, Nov 23, 2009 at 5:55 PM, John R <untitled36(at)yahoo.com ([email]untitled36(at)yahoo.com[/email])> wrote:

Can we extend the deadline? I've been at a conference this weekend, and wi-fi was $10 a day, which I consider a bit outrageous. So I've been out of touch. Can we have another few days? And sorry everyone, I have not bee ignoring you. Right now I am on a 20 minute complimentary wi-fi at O'hare, so can't respond right now either. Thanks all. Sorry for the delay. I thought I'd have access.
 
John

 




From: Michael Thompson <psychosis(at)sky.com ([email]psychosis(at)sky.com[/email])>
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Sent: Thu, November 19, 2009 3:03:21 PM
Subject: DC 281 Spring 1901



And the Spring 1901 moves are in...many thanks to all for getting moves in on time, and for getting us the first season in successfully
 
And a very interesting set of moves it is too, with a mix of orthodox and unorthodox openings...in the West, France seems to be attacking everyone, but finds himself bounced in Burgundy, whilst England commits to the north, and Germany opens fairly neutrally.
 
In the East, Austria annexes Galicia, but finds two Italian forces knocking on the door in Trieste.  Russia sends an army north, and a bounce in the Black Sea suggests Russia and Turkey haven't resolved their differences
 
Attached are the RealPolitick file for the game, and files detailing the Spring moves and resolution of the moves.  The game page on the DC website has also been updated.
 
We move straight on to Fall 1901, for which the deadline is Tuesday 24th November, 2100GMT
 
Michael
 
Austria:
A Budapest - Serbia
F Trieste - Albania
A Vienna - Galicia
 
England:
F Edinburgh - Norwegian Sea
A Liverpool - Edinburgh
F London - North Sea
 
France:
F Brest - English Channel
A Marseilles - Piedmont
A Paris - Burgundy (*Bounce*)
 
Germany:
A Berlin - Kiel
F Kiel - Denmark
A Munich - Burgundy (*Bounce*)
 
Italy:
F Naples - Tyrrhenian Sea
A Rome - Venice
A Venice - Tyrolia
 
Russia:
A Moscow - St Petersburg
F Sevastopol - Black Sea (*Bounce*)
F St Petersburg(sc) - Gulf of Bothnia
A Warsaw - Ukraine
 
Turkey:
F Ankara - Black Sea (*Bounce*)
A Constantinople - Bulgaria
A Smyrna Hold

Players:
Austria...John Reside untitled36(at)yahoo.com ([email]untitled36(at)yahoo.com[/email])
England...Will McQuaid elpresidente112(at)yahoo.ca ([email]elpresidente112(at)yahoo.ca[/email])
France...Kyle Rudge krudge(at)goldenwestradio.com ([email]krudge(at)goldenwestradio.com[/email])
Germany...Ed Bailey EdBailey1946(at)yahoo.com ([email]EdBailey1946(at)yahoo.com[/email])
Italy...Alex Maslow blueraider0(at)gmail.com ([email]blueraider0(at)gmail.com[/email])
Russia...matthew.jones.d(at)gmail.com ([email]Russia...matthew.jones.d(at)gmail.com[/email])
Turkey...Will Fleming wtfleming(at)msn.com ([email]wtfleming(at)msn.com[/email])











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"What are we holding onto, Sam?"
"That there's some good in this world, Mr. Frodo. And it's worth fighting for."

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DC 281 Spring 1901 - untitled36 at yahoo.com   (Nov 23, 2009, 4:55 pm)
Can we extend the deadline? I've been at a conference this weekend, and wi-fi was $10 a day, which I consider a bit outrageous. So I've been out of touch. Can we have another few days? And sorry everyone, I have not bee ignoring you. Right now I am on a 20 minute complimentary wi-fi at O'hare, so can't respond right now either. Thanks all. Sorry for the delay. I thought I'd have access.

John



From: Michael Thompson <psychosis(at)sky.com>
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Cc: mike(at)fuzzylogicllc.net; dc281(at)diplomaticcorp.com
Sent: Thu, November 19, 2009 3:03:21 PM
Subject: DC 281 Spring 1901

And the Spring 1901 moves are in...many thanks to all for getting moves in on time, and for getting us the first season in successfully

And a very interesting set of moves it is too, with a mix of orthodox and unorthodox openings...in the West, France seems to be attacking everyone, but finds himself bounced in Burgundy, whilst England commits to the north, and Germany opens fairly neutrally.

In the East, Austria annexes Galicia, but finds two Italian forces knocking on the door in Trieste. Russia sends an army north, and a bounce in the Black Sea suggests Russia and Turkey haven't resolved their differences

Attached are the RealPolitick file for the game, and files detailing the Spring moves and resolution of the moves. The game page on the DC website has also been updated.

We move straight on to Fall 1901, for which the deadline is Tuesday 24th November, 2100GMT

Michael

Austria:
A Budapest - Serbia
F Trieste - Albania
A Vienna - Galicia

England:
F Edinburgh - Norwegian Sea
A Liverpool - Edinburgh
F London - North Sea

France:
F Brest - English Channel
A Marseilles - Piedmont
A Paris - Burgundy (*Bounce*)

Germany:
A Berlin - Kiel
F Kiel - Denmark
A Munich - Burgundy (*Bounce*)

Italy:
F Naples - Tyrrhenian Sea
A Rome - Venice
A Venice - Tyrolia

Russia:
A Moscow - St Petersburg
F Sevastopol - Black Sea (*Bounce*)
F St Petersburg(sc) - Gulf of Bothnia
A Warsaw - Ukraine

Turkey:
F Ankara - Black Sea (*Bounce*)
A Constantinople - Bulgaria
A Smyrna Hold

Players:
Austria...John Reside untitled36(at)yahoo.com ([email]untitled36(at)yahoo.com[/email])
England...Will McQuaid elpresidente112(at)yahoo.ca ([email]elpresidente112(at)yahoo.ca[/email])
France...Kyle Rudge krudge(at)goldenwestradio.com ([email]krudge(at)goldenwestradio.com[/email])
Germany...Ed Bailey EdBailey1946(at)yahoo.com ([email]EdBailey1946(at)yahoo.com[/email])
Italy...Alex Maslow blueraider0(at)gmail.com ([email]blueraider0(at)gmail.com[/email])
Russia...matthew.jones.d(at)gmail.com ([email]Russia...matthew.jones.d(at)gmail.com[/email])
Turkey...Will Fleming wtfleming(at)msn.com ([email]wtfleming(at)msn.com[/email])

[Reply]

NNIGTFML s1839 results! - FuzzyLogic   (Nov 23, 2009, 4:43 pm)
You know what they say, it's better to kill two llamas with one stone than two Argentinians with a multinational invasion.

NEXT: Fall 1839 due next Monday 11/30, 3pm Central / 2100 GMT!

There was one retreat, but Brazilian A Santa Cruz could only retreat to Mato Grosso. Fredrik may confirm this or choose OTB by Wed 2100 GMT, else the adjudication stands. (sorry for the late adjudication guys!)

Argentina:
A Buenos Aires Supports A Montevideo (*Disbanded*)
A Montevideo Supports A Buenos Aires (*Disbanded*)

Brasil:
A Amazonas - Guapore
A Angostura - Caracas
F Cumana Supports A Angostura - Caracas
A Guapore - Riberalta
A Pantanal Supports A Santa Cruz
F Rio de Janeiro - Bahia Todos os Santos
F Rio Grande do Sul - Bahia de Paranagua
A Santa Cruz Supports A Guapore - Riberalta (*Dislodged*)
F Sao Paulo - Rio Grande do Sul

Bolivia:
F Bahia de Arica Supports A Cusco - Lima
A Cusco - Lima (*Fails*)
A La Paz Supports A Potosi - Santa Cruz
A Potosi - Santa Cruz

Chile:
A Bahia Blanca - Buenos Aires
F Golfo de Guafo Hold
F Golfo de San Jorge - Rio de la Plata
F Malvinas - Golfo de San Jorge
A Rosario Supports A Bahia Blanca - Buenos Aires
A Santiago - Mendoza

Colombia:
A Barinas - Llanos (*Bounce*)
F Golfo de Panama - Bahia Sechura
F Quito - Cali (*Fails*)

Paraguay:
A Asuncion - Parana
A Chaco Supports A Potosi - Santa Cruz
A Cordoba - Santa Fe
A Misiones Supports A Santa Fe - Montevideo
A Santa Fe - Montevideo
A Tucuman - Formosa

Peru:
A Iquitos - Aquiris
A Lima Supports F Trujillo (*Cut*)
F Trujillo Supports A Lima

Venezuela:
A Bogota - Llanos (*Bounce*)
A Cali - Quito (*Fails*)
A Cartagena Supports F Golfo de Darien - Panama(nc)
F Golfo de Darien - Panama(nc)
F Maracaibo - Caracas (*Fails*)

[Reply]

NNIGTFML s1839 results! (dc273) packrat Nov 23, 09:06 pm
I don't know if anyone else is having issues with Mike's map, but
I ran the orders on my own and the map I have is attached. Use
it or not, it's up to you. Perhaps Mike can give it his seal of approval.



dc278 - Spring 1902 Results - z93blom   (Nov 23, 2009, 3:53 pm)
Good afternoon,

I made an error while adjudicating. The Marseille army was not ordered inland, instead it was ordered into Piedmont. This has slight implications for where some units will be located for the Fall movement. The following adjustments have been made:


France A Marseilles to Piedmont - *Bounce*
Italy A Venice to Piedmont - *Bounce*


England A Belgium to Burgundy - Success


Please see attached maps and RealPolitik file for changes.


The upcoming orders will still be due as before:


Next turn: Summer 1903 Retreat (Only Tony/Italy)
Next Deadline: Wednesday, 25th of November, 19:00 GMT (7PM).


You can send in preliminaries for the fall movement starting now. Make them conditional if you want to.


Upcoming turn: Fall 1903 Movement
Upcoming Deadline: Monday, 30th of November, 19:00 GMT (7PM).






/Fredrik

2009/11/23 Fredrik Blom <fredrik(at)familjenblom.se ([email]fredrik(at)familjenblom.se[/email])>

Good afternoon my Diplomats,

A happy GM is has for once received all orders before the time has run out. Keep up the good work.


Once again I'm confounded by all the movement across the board, although quite a lot of the movement failed to happen. I'm not going to analyze the situation, instead leaving the analysis up to you.


For the summer we have one retreat that is needed - the Italian Fleet stationed in Tunis needs to retreat. Tony, I've retreated the Fleet to the Ionian. If you'd rather retreat to North Africa or OTB, please let us know by 19:00 GMT Wednesday, otherwise the retreat stands.


Any mistakes that I've made should be brought to my attention as soon as possible. Please let me know if you plan on being away or if you want an extended deadline.


Next turn: Summer 1903 Retreat (Only Tony/Italy)
Next Deadline: Wednesday, 25th of November, 19:00 GMT (7PM).


You can send in preliminaries for the fall movement starting now. Make them conditional if you want to.


Upcoming turn: Fall 1903 Movement
Upcoming Deadline: Monday, 30th of November, 19:00 GMT (7PM).




Game on!


Spring 1903 Movement:




Austria: 
A Budapest - Galicia (*Fails*)
A Bulgaria Supports A Constantinople
A Constantinople Supports A Armenia - Ankara
A Galicia - Silesia (*Bounce*)
F Greece - Aegean Sea
A Trieste - Albania
A Vienna - Bohemia


England: 
A Belgium - Burgundy (*Bounce*)
F Edinburgh - North Sea
F English Channel Convoys A London - Brest
F Holland - Belgium (*Bounce*)
A London - Brest
F Norway - Skagerrak


France: 
A Marseilles - Burgundy (*Bounce*)
A Picardy - Belgium (*Bounce*)
A Spain - Tunis
F Tyrrhenian Sea Supports A Spain - Tunis
F Western Mediterranean Convoys A Spain - Tunis


Germany: 
F Denmark - Sweden (*Fails*)
A Kiel Supports A Munich - Berlin
A Munich - Berlin
A Tyrolia - Munich (*Bounce*)


Italy: 
A Apulia - Naples
A Silesia - Munich (*Bounce*)
F Tunis - Tyrrhenian Sea (*Dislodged*)
A Venice - Piedmont


Russia: 
A Armenia - Ankara
F Black Sea Supports A Armenia - Ankara
A Livonia - Prussia
A Moscow - Warsaw (*Fails*)
F Sweden Supports F Norway - Skagerrak (*Cut*)
A Warsaw - Silesia (*Bounce*)


Turkey: 
A Ankara Supports A Smyrna (*Disbanded*)
A Smyrna Supports A Ankara


Italian F Tunis can retreat to North Africa or Ionian Sea or OTB.




Next turn: Summer 1903 Retreat (Only Tony/Italy)
Next Deadline: Wednesday, 25th of November, 19:00 GMT (7PM).


You can send in preliminaries for the fall movement starting now. Make them conditional if you want to.


Upcoming turn: Fall 1903 Movement
Upcoming Deadline: Monday, 30th of November, 19:00 GMT (7PM).






/Fredrik


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DC 262: Angstskrik - Fall 831 Adjudication - packrat   (Nov 23, 2009, 2:38 pm)
yes.


From: Benjamin Hester <screwtape777(at)gmail.com>
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Sent: Mon, November 23, 2009 11:38:56 AM
Subject: Re: DC 262: Angstskrik - Fall 831 Adjudication

I have received prelims of all required adjustments. I am willing to
adjudicate early before I depart on Tuesday if all remaining players
(Norse/Danes/Anglo-Saxons/Gaels/Scots) agree. Please email me before
noon Tuesday to vote in favor or against this proposal.

I know Thanksgiving is a great time for Dip, I'd rather give you all a
Spring season to enjoy.

If I receive five yes votes, I will adjudicate immediately. If I
receive any no votes or receive less than five votes, the Monday, Nov
30 1700 EST deadline for Winter 831 will stand.

B.

On 11/19/09, Benjamin Hester <screwtape777(at)gmail.com ([email]screwtape777(at)gmail.com[/email])> wrote:

Honored Kings of the Dark Ages:

Many pitched battles rage across the continent and on the high seas
this fall, but few result in a transfer of dots. The Scots regain the
North Sea over Danish opposition, though the Danes advance their
fleets successfully along the coast. The Danes also advance
successfully in the only transfer of dots this season, seizing
Rogaland and Hordaland. Meanwhile, back in the south, the
Anglo-Saxons advance along the coast to enter the fray in the central
seas...

We bid farewell to our Breton player this season, as his last SC falls
to the Anglo-Saxons. A big thank you to Matt for playing Dip as it
should be, and fighting to the very finish. You are welcome to a seat
in any future games I GM. I would appreciate an EOG statement from
both you (and Mark!) if you are willing to provide one.

No retreats needed, so we move straight to the next deadline for
Winter 831, which will be extended until Monday, November 30th for the
US Thanksgiving Day holiday.

DC 262 Player List:

Nick Higgins - Cyning of the Angles and Saxons (Anglo-Saxons)
congressofvienna1814 AT yahoo DOT com

Matthew Kelly - Brenin of the Brythons (Britons)
kelly058 AT verizon DOT net

Gregory Bim-Merle - Kong of the Dani (Danes)
gbimmerle AT gmail DOT com

Nathan Deily - Ard Rí na hÉireann (Gaels)
ndeily AT yahoo DOT com

Scott Troemel - Kong of the Norge (Norse)
brn2dip AT yahoo DOT com

Nigel Phillips - Rí Alban (Scots)
nephilli99 AT hotmail DOT com

Mark Duffield - Konung of the Suetidi (Swedes)
captain_sicarius AT hotmail DOT com

and me, your humble GM, B. (Benjamin Hester)
screwtape777 AT gmail DOT com

Orders:

Gaels:

F Connaught - Hebridean Sea
F Dyfed Hold
F Gaelic Sea Convoys A Leinster - Pengwern
A Gwynned Supports A Leinster - Pengwern
A Leinster - Pengwern
F Ulster Supports F Connaught - Hebridean Sea

Scots:

A Dal Riada Supports F North Channel - Strathclyde
A Deira Supports A Mercia
A Mercia Supports A Deira
F Moray Firth Supports F West Frisian Coast - North Sea
F North Channel - Strathclyde
F Scapa Flow Hold
F West Frisian Coast - North Sea

Bretons:

A Chester - Mercia

Norse:

A Jamtland Supports A Opplandene - Varmland
F Lappland(wc) Hold
F Norwegian Sea - Trondelag
A Opplandene - Varmland
F Rogaland Coast - Hordaland

AngloSaxons:

F Brittany - English Channel
F English Channel - Strait of Dover
A Kent Hold
A Neustria - Austrasia
A Powys Hold

Danes:

F Agder - Rogaland
A Austrasia Supports F North Frisian Coast - Frisia
F Bay of Bothnia - Lappland(ec)
F Jelling(wc) Supports F Ribe(wc) - North Frisian Coast
F Kattegat - Skagerrak
F North Frisian Coast - Frisia
F Ribe(wc) - North Frisian Coast
F Rogaland - Hordaland
F Skagerrak - North Sea
A Svear Supports A Varmland
A Varmland Supports A Vestfold
F Viborg Supports F Kattegat - Skagerrak
A Vestfold Supports F Rogaland - Hordaland

Results:

Gaels:

F Connaught - Hebridean Sea
F Dyfed Hold
F Gaelic Sea Convoys A Leinster - Pengwern
A Gwynned Supports A Leinster - Pengwern
A Leinster - Pengwern
F Ulster Supports F Connaught - Hebridean Sea

Scots:

A Dal Riada Supports F North Channel - Strathclyde
A Deira Supports A Mercia
A Mercia Supports A Deira (*Cut*)
F Moray Firth Supports F West Frisian Coast - North Sea
F North Channel - Strathclyde
F Scapa Flow Hold
F West Frisian Coast - North Sea

Bretons:

A Chester - Mercia (*Fails*)

Norse:

A Jamtland Supports A Opplandene - Varmland
F Lappland(wc) Hold
F Norwegian Sea - Trondelag
A Opplandene - Varmland (*Fails*)
F Rogaland Coast - Hordaland (*Fails*)

AngloSaxons:

F Brittany - English Channel
F English Channel - Strait of Dover
A Kent Hold
A Neustria - Austrasia (*Fails*)
A Powys Hold

Danes:

F Agder - Rogaland
A Austrasia Supports F North Frisian Coast - Frisia (*Cut*)
F Bay of Bothnia - Lappland(ec) (*Fails*)
F Jelling(wc) Supports F Ribe(wc) - North Frisian Coast
F Kattegat - Skagerrak (*Fails*)
F North Frisian Coast - Frisia
F Ribe(wc) - North Frisian Coast
F Rogaland - Hordaland
F Skagerrak - North Sea (*Fails*)
A Svear Supports A Varmland
A Varmland Supports A Vestfold (*Cut*)
F Viborg Supports F Kattegat - Skagerrak (*Fails*)
A Vestfold Supports F Rogaland - Hordaland

Winter Adjustments:

Bretons:

Remove A Chester

Norse:

Remove
Remove

AngloSaxons:

Build

Danes:

Build
Build

Status:

Gaels: Supp 6 Unit 6 Build 0
Scots: Supp 7 Unit 7 Build 0
Bretons: Supp 0 Unit 1 Remove 1
Norse: Supp 3 Unit 5 Remove 2
AngloSaxons: Supp 6 Unit 5 Build 1
Danes: Supp 16 Unit 13 Build 2
Swedes: Supp 0 Unit 0 Build 0



Thanks!
B.

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[Reply]

dc278 - Spring 1902 Results - z93blom   (Nov 23, 2009, 2:13 pm)
Good afternoon my Diplomats,

A happy GM is has for once received all orders before the time has run out. Keep up the good work.


Once again I'm confounded by all the movement across the board, although quite a lot of the movement failed to happen. I'm not going to analyze the situation, instead leaving the analysis up to you.


For the summer we have one retreat that is needed - the Italian Fleet stationed in Tunis needs to retreat. Tony, I've retreated the Fleet to the Ionian. If you'd rather retreat to North Africa or OTB, please let us know by 19:00 GMT Wednesday, otherwise the retreat stands.


Any mistakes that I've made should be brought to my attention as soon as possible. Please let me know if you plan on being away or if you want an extended deadline.


Next turn: Summer 1903 Retreat (Only Tony/Italy)
Next Deadline: Wednesday, 25th of November, 19:00 GMT (7PM).


You can send in preliminaries for the fall movement starting now. Make them conditional if you want to.


Upcoming turn: Fall 1903 Movement
Upcoming Deadline: Monday, 30th of November, 19:00 GMT (7PM).




Game on!


Spring 1903 Movement:




Austria: 
A Budapest - Galicia (*Fails*)
A Bulgaria Supports A Constantinople
A Constantinople Supports A Armenia - Ankara
A Galicia - Silesia (*Bounce*)
F Greece - Aegean Sea
A Trieste - Albania
A Vienna - Bohemia


England: 
A Belgium - Burgundy (*Bounce*)
F Edinburgh - North Sea
F English Channel Convoys A London - Brest
F Holland - Belgium (*Bounce*)
A London - Brest
F Norway - Skagerrak


France: 
A Marseilles - Burgundy (*Bounce*)
A Picardy - Belgium (*Bounce*)
A Spain - Tunis
F Tyrrhenian Sea Supports A Spain - Tunis
F Western Mediterranean Convoys A Spain - Tunis


Germany: 
F Denmark - Sweden (*Fails*)
A Kiel Supports A Munich - Berlin
A Munich - Berlin
A Tyrolia - Munich (*Bounce*)


Italy: 
A Apulia - Naples
A Silesia - Munich (*Bounce*)
F Tunis - Tyrrhenian Sea (*Dislodged*)
A Venice - Piedmont


Russia: 
A Armenia - Ankara
F Black Sea Supports A Armenia - Ankara
A Livonia - Prussia
A Moscow - Warsaw (*Fails*)
F Sweden Supports F Norway - Skagerrak (*Cut*)
A Warsaw - Silesia (*Bounce*)


Turkey: 
A Ankara Supports A Smyrna (*Disbanded*)
A Smyrna Supports A Ankara


Italian F Tunis can retreat to North Africa or Ionian Sea or OTB.




Next turn: Summer 1903 Retreat (Only Tony/Italy)
Next Deadline: Wednesday, 25th of November, 19:00 GMT (7PM).


You can send in preliminaries for the fall movement starting now. Make them conditional if you want to.


Upcoming turn: Fall 1903 Movement
Upcoming Deadline: Monday, 30th of November, 19:00 GMT (7PM).






/Fredrik

[Reply]

DC 262: Angstskrik - Fall 831 Adjudication - Nigs   (Nov 23, 2009, 12:18 pm)
fine by me

Date: Mon, 23 Nov 2009 09:29:46 -0800
From: ndeily(at)yahoo.com
Subject: Re: DC 262: Angstskrik - Fall 831 Adjudication
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To: Benjamin Hester <screwtape777(at)gmail.com>
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Subject: Re: DC 262: Angstskrik - Fall 831 Adjudication

Yes.

On Mon, Nov 23, 2009 at 10:38 AM, Benjamin Hester <screwtape777(at)gmail.com ([email]screwtape777(at)gmail.com[/email])> wrote:

I have received prelims of all required adjustments. I am willing to
adjudicate early before I depart on Tuesday if all remaining players
(Norse/Danes/Anglo-Saxons/Gaels/Scots) agree. Please email me before
noon Tuesday to vote in favor or against this proposal.

I know Thanksgiving is a great time for Dip, I'd rather give you all a
Spring season to enjoy.

If I receive five yes votes, I will adjudicate immediately. If I
receive any no votes or receive less than five votes, the Monday, Nov
30 1700 EST deadline for Winter 831 will stand.

B.


On 11/19/09, Benjamin Hester <screwtape777(at)gmail.com ([email]screwtape777(at)gmail.com[/email])> wrote:
[quote:9671789bec]Honored Kings of the Dark Ages:

Many pitched battles rage across the continent and on the high seas
this fall, but few result in a transfer of dots. The Scots regain the
North Sea over Danish opposition, though the Danes advance their
fleets successfully along the coast. The Danes also advance
successfully in the only transfer of dots this season, seizing
Rogaland and Hordaland. Meanwhile, back in the south, the
Anglo-Saxons advance along the coast to enter the fray in the central
seas...

We bid farewell to our Breton player this season, as his last SC falls
to the Anglo-Saxons. A big thank you to Matt for playing Dip as it
should be, and fighting to the very finish. You are welcome to a seat
in any future games I GM. I would appreciate an EOG statement from
both you (and Mark!) if you are willing to provide one.

No retreats needed, so we move straight to the next deadline for
Winter 831, which will be extended until Monday, November 30th for the
US Thanksgiving Day holiday.

DC 262 Player List:

Nick Higgins - Cyning of the Angles and Saxons (Anglo-Saxons)
congressofvienna1814 AT yahoo DOT com

Matthew Kelly - Brenin of the Brythons (Britons)
kelly058 AT verizon DOT net

Gregory Bim-Merle - Kong of the Dani (Danes)
gbimmerle AT gmail DOT com

Nathan Deily - Ard Rí na hÉireann (Gaels)
ndeily AT yahoo DOT com

Scott Troemel - Kong of the Norge (Norse)
brn2dip AT yahoo DOT com

Nigel Phillips - Rí Alban (Scots)
nephilli99 AT hotmail DOT com

Mark Duffield - Konung of the Suetidi (Swedes)
captain_sicarius AT hotmail DOT com

and me, your humble GM, B. (Benjamin Hester)
screwtape777 AT gmail DOT com

Orders:

Gaels:

F Connaught - Hebridean Sea
F Dyfed Hold
F Gaelic Sea Convoys A Leinster - Pengwern
A Gwynned Supports A Leinster - Pengwern
A Leinster - Pengwern
F Ulster Supports F Connaught - Hebridean Sea

Scots:

A Dal Riada Supports F North Channel - Strathclyde
A Deira Supports A Mercia
A Mercia Supports A Deira
F Moray Firth Supports F West Frisian Coast - North Sea
F North Channel - Strathclyde
F Scapa Flow Hold
F West Frisian Coast - North Sea

Bretons:

A Chester - Mercia

Norse:

A Jamtland Supports A Opplandene - Varmland
F Lappland(wc) Hold
F Norwegian Sea - Trondelag
A Opplandene - Varmland
F Rogaland Coast - Hordaland

AngloSaxons:

F Brittany - English Channel
F English Channel - Strait of Dover
A Kent Hold
A Neustria - Austrasia
A Powys Hold

Danes:

F Agder - Rogaland
A Austrasia Supports F North Frisian Coast - Frisia
F Bay of Bothnia - Lappland(ec)
F Jelling(wc) Supports F Ribe(wc) - North Frisian Coast
F Kattegat - Skagerrak
F North Frisian Coast - Frisia
F Ribe(wc) - North Frisian Coast
F Rogaland - Hordaland
F Skagerrak - North Sea
A Svear Supports A Varmland
A Varmland Supports A Vestfold
F Viborg Supports F Kattegat - Skagerrak
A Vestfold Supports F Rogaland - Hordaland

Results:

Gaels:

F Connaught - Hebridean Sea
F Dyfed Hold
F Gaelic Sea Convoys A Leinster - Pengwern
A Gwynned Supports A Leinster - Pengwern
A Leinster - Pengwern
F Ulster Supports F Connaught - Hebridean Sea

Scots:

A Dal Riada Supports F North Channel - Strathclyde
A Deira Supports A Mercia
A Mercia Supports A Deira (*Cut*)
F Moray Firth Supports F West Frisian Coast - North Sea
F North Channel - Strathclyde
F Scapa Flow Hold
F West Frisian Coast - North Sea

Bretons:

A Chester - Mercia (*Fails*)

Norse:

A Jamtland Supports A Opplandene - Varmland
F Lappland(wc) Hold
F Norwegian Sea - Trondelag
A Opplandene - Varmland (*Fails*)
F Rogaland Coast - Hordaland (*Fails*)

AngloSaxons:

F Brittany - English Channel
F English Channel - Strait of Dover
A Kent Hold
A Neustria - Austrasia (*Fails*)
A Powys Hold

Danes:

F Agder - Rogaland
A Austrasia Supports F North Frisian Coast - Frisia (*Cut*)
F Bay of Bothnia - Lappland(ec) (*Fails*)
F Jelling(wc) Supports F Ribe(wc) - North Frisian Coast
F Kattegat - Skagerrak (*Fails*)
F North Frisian Coast - Frisia
F Ribe(wc) - North Frisian Coast
F Rogaland - Hordaland
F Skagerrak - North Sea (*Fails*)
A Svear Supports A Varmland
A Varmland Supports A Vestfold (*Cut*)
F Viborg Supports F Kattegat - Skagerrak (*Fails*)
A Vestfold Supports F Rogaland - Hordaland

Winter Adjustments:

Bretons:

Remove A Chester

Norse:

Remove
Remove

AngloSaxons:

Build

Danes:

Build
Build

Status:

Gaels: Supp 6 Unit 6 Build 0
Scots: Supp 7 Unit 7 Build 0
Bretons: Supp 0 Unit 1 Remove 1
Norse: Supp 3 Unit 5 Remove 2
AngloSaxons: Supp 6 Unit 5 Build 1
Danes: Supp 16 Unit 13 Build 2
Swedes: Supp 0 Unit 0 Build 0



Thanks!
B.

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any progress here? - Kenshi777   (Nov 23, 2009, 11:39 am)
I'd be interested in seeing how this variant develops. Please also join (and include0 DVWorkshop(at)yahoogroups.com on your posts, as you'll find more than a few folks there that have experience designing variants and can offer useful assistance.

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DC 262: Angstskrik - Fall 831 Adjudication - ndeily   (Nov 23, 2009, 11:29 am)
approve


From: Gregory Bim-Merle <gbimmerle(at)gmail.com>
To: Benjamin Hester <screwtape777(at)gmail.com>
Cc: brn2dip(at)yahoo.com; captain_sicarius(at)hotmail.com; congressofvienna1814(at)yahoo.com; dc262(at)diplomaticcorp.com; githraine(at)yahoo.com; kelly058(at)verizon.net; mike(at)fuzzylogicllc.net; mike(at)sims-family.net; ndeily(at)yahoo.com; nephilli99(at)hotmail.com
Sent: Mon, November 23, 2009 9:52:52 AM
Subject: Re: DC 262: Angstskrik - Fall 831 Adjudication

Yes.

On Mon, Nov 23, 2009 at 10:38 AM, Benjamin Hester <screwtape777(at)gmail.com ([email]screwtape777(at)gmail.com[/email])> wrote:

I have received prelims of all required adjustments. I am willing to
adjudicate early before I depart on Tuesday if all remaining players
(Norse/Danes/Anglo-Saxons/Gaels/Scots) agree. Please email me before
noon Tuesday to vote in favor or against this proposal.

I know Thanksgiving is a great time for Dip, I'd rather give you all a
Spring season to enjoy.

If I receive five yes votes, I will adjudicate immediately. If I
receive any no votes or receive less than five votes, the Monday, Nov
30 1700 EST deadline for Winter 831 will stand.

B.


On 11/19/09, Benjamin Hester <screwtape777(at)gmail.com ([email]screwtape777(at)gmail.com[/email])> wrote:
[quote:d8daed5ac4]Honored Kings of the Dark Ages:

Many pitched battles rage across the continent and on the high seas
this fall, but few result in a transfer of dots. The Scots regain the
North Sea over Danish opposition, though the Danes advance their
fleets successfully along the coast. The Danes also advance
successfully in the only transfer of dots this season, seizing
Rogaland and Hordaland. Meanwhile, back in the south, the
Anglo-Saxons advance along the coast to enter the fray in the central
seas...

We bid farewell to our Breton player this season, as his last SC falls
to the Anglo-Saxons. A big thank you to Matt for playing Dip as it
should be, and fighting to the very finish. You are welcome to a seat
in any future games I GM. I would appreciate an EOG statement from
both you (and Mark!) if you are willing to provide one.

No retreats needed, so we move straight to the next deadline for
Winter 831, which will be extended until Monday, November 30th for the
US Thanksgiving Day holiday.

DC 262 Player List:

Nick Higgins - Cyning of the Angles and Saxons (Anglo-Saxons)
congressofvienna1814 AT yahoo DOT com

Matthew Kelly - Brenin of the Brythons (Britons)
kelly058 AT verizon DOT net

Gregory Bim-Merle - Kong of the Dani (Danes)
gbimmerle AT gmail DOT com

Nathan Deily - Ard Rí na hÉireann (Gaels)
ndeily AT yahoo DOT com

Scott Troemel - Kong of the Norge (Norse)
brn2dip AT yahoo DOT com

Nigel Phillips - Rí Alban (Scots)
nephilli99 AT hotmail DOT com

Mark Duffield - Konung of the Suetidi (Swedes)
captain_sicarius AT hotmail DOT com

and me, your humble GM, B. (Benjamin Hester)
screwtape777 AT gmail DOT com

Orders:

Gaels:

F Connaught - Hebridean Sea
F Dyfed Hold
F Gaelic Sea Convoys A Leinster - Pengwern
A Gwynned Supports A Leinster - Pengwern
A Leinster - Pengwern
F Ulster Supports F Connaught - Hebridean Sea

Scots:

A Dal Riada Supports F North Channel - Strathclyde
A Deira Supports A Mercia
A Mercia Supports A Deira
F Moray Firth Supports F West Frisian Coast - North Sea
F North Channel - Strathclyde
F Scapa Flow Hold
F West Frisian Coast - North Sea

Bretons:

A Chester - Mercia

Norse:

A Jamtland Supports A Opplandene - Varmland
F Lappland(wc) Hold
F Norwegian Sea - Trondelag
A Opplandene - Varmland
F Rogaland Coast - Hordaland

AngloSaxons:

F Brittany - English Channel
F English Channel - Strait of Dover
A Kent Hold
A Neustria - Austrasia
A Powys Hold

Danes:

F Agder - Rogaland
A Austrasia Supports F North Frisian Coast - Frisia
F Bay of Bothnia - Lappland(ec)
F Jelling(wc) Supports F Ribe(wc) - North Frisian Coast
F Kattegat - Skagerrak
F North Frisian Coast - Frisia
F Ribe(wc) - North Frisian Coast
F Rogaland - Hordaland
F Skagerrak - North Sea
A Svear Supports A Varmland
A Varmland Supports A Vestfold
F Viborg Supports F Kattegat - Skagerrak
A Vestfold Supports F Rogaland - Hordaland

Results:

Gaels:

F Connaught - Hebridean Sea
F Dyfed Hold
F Gaelic Sea Convoys A Leinster - Pengwern
A Gwynned Supports A Leinster - Pengwern
A Leinster - Pengwern
F Ulster Supports F Connaught - Hebridean Sea

Scots:

A Dal Riada Supports F North Channel - Strathclyde
A Deira Supports A Mercia
A Mercia Supports A Deira (*Cut*)
F Moray Firth Supports F West Frisian Coast - North Sea
F North Channel - Strathclyde
F Scapa Flow Hold
F West Frisian Coast - North Sea

Bretons:

A Chester - Mercia (*Fails*)

Norse:

A Jamtland Supports A Opplandene - Varmland
F Lappland(wc) Hold
F Norwegian Sea - Trondelag
A Opplandene - Varmland (*Fails*)
F Rogaland Coast - Hordaland (*Fails*)

AngloSaxons:

F Brittany - English Channel
F English Channel - Strait of Dover
A Kent Hold
A Neustria - Austrasia (*Fails*)
A Powys Hold

Danes:

F Agder - Rogaland
A Austrasia Supports F North Frisian Coast - Frisia (*Cut*)
F Bay of Bothnia - Lappland(ec) (*Fails*)
F Jelling(wc) Supports F Ribe(wc) - North Frisian Coast
F Kattegat - Skagerrak (*Fails*)
F North Frisian Coast - Frisia
F Ribe(wc) - North Frisian Coast
F Rogaland - Hordaland
F Skagerrak - North Sea (*Fails*)
A Svear Supports A Varmland
A Varmland Supports A Vestfold (*Cut*)
F Viborg Supports F Kattegat - Skagerrak (*Fails*)
A Vestfold Supports F Rogaland - Hordaland

Winter Adjustments:

Bretons:

Remove A Chester

Norse:

Remove
Remove

AngloSaxons:

Build

Danes:

Build
Build

Status:

Gaels: Supp 6 Unit 6 Build 0
Scots: Supp 7 Unit 7 Build 0
Bretons: Supp 0 Unit 1 Remove 1
Norse: Supp 3 Unit 5 Remove 2
AngloSaxons: Supp 6 Unit 5 Build 1
Danes: Supp 16 Unit 13 Build 2
Swedes: Supp 0 Unit 0 Build 0



Thanks!
B.

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DC 262: Angstskrik - Fall 831 Adjudication - Tirerndil   (Nov 23, 2009, 10:52 am)
Yes.

On Mon, Nov 23, 2009 at 10:38 AM, Benjamin Hester <screwtape777(at)gmail.com ([email]screwtape777(at)gmail.com[/email])> wrote:

I have received prelims of all required adjustments.  I am willing to
adjudicate early before I depart on Tuesday if all remaining players
(Norse/Danes/Anglo-Saxons/Gaels/Scots) agree.  Please email me before
noon Tuesday to vote in favor or against this proposal.

I know Thanksgiving is a great time for Dip, I'd rather give you all a
Spring season to enjoy.

If I receive five yes votes, I will adjudicate immediately.  If I
receive any no votes or receive less than five votes, the Monday, Nov
30 1700 EST deadline for Winter 831 will stand.

B.


On 11/19/09, Benjamin Hester <screwtape777(at)gmail.com ([email]screwtape777(at)gmail.com[/email])> wrote:
[quote:28e63de8a4]Honored Kings of the Dark Ages:

Many pitched battles rage across the continent and on the high seas
this fall, but few result in a transfer of dots.  The Scots regain the
North Sea over Danish opposition, though the Danes advance their
fleets successfully along the coast.  The Danes also advance
successfully in the only transfer of dots this season, seizing
Rogaland and Hordaland.  Meanwhile, back in the south, the
Anglo-Saxons advance along the coast to enter the fray in the central
seas...

We bid farewell to our Breton player this season, as his last SC falls
to the Anglo-Saxons.  A big thank you to Matt for playing Dip as it
should be, and fighting to the very finish.  You are welcome to a seat
in any future games I GM.   I would appreciate an EOG statement from
both you (and Mark!) if you are willing to provide one.

No retreats needed, so we move straight to the next deadline for
Winter 831, which will be extended until Monday, November 30th for the
US Thanksgiving Day holiday.

DC 262 Player List:

Nick Higgins - Cyning of the Angles and Saxons (Anglo-Saxons)
congressofvienna1814 AT yahoo DOT com

Matthew Kelly - Brenin of the Brythons (Britons)
kelly058 AT verizon DOT net

Gregory Bim-Merle - Kong of the Dani (Danes)
gbimmerle AT gmail DOT com

Nathan Deily - Ard Rí na hÉireann (Gaels)
ndeily AT yahoo DOT com

Scott Troemel - Kong of the Norge (Norse)
brn2dip AT yahoo DOT com

Nigel Phillips - Rí Alban (Scots)
nephilli99 AT hotmail DOT com

Mark Duffield - Konung of the Suetidi (Swedes)
captain_sicarius AT hotmail DOT com

and me, your humble GM, B.  (Benjamin Hester)
screwtape777 AT gmail DOT com

Orders:

Gaels:

F Connaught - Hebridean Sea
F Dyfed Hold
F Gaelic Sea Convoys A Leinster - Pengwern
A Gwynned Supports A Leinster - Pengwern
A Leinster - Pengwern
F Ulster Supports F Connaught - Hebridean Sea

Scots:

A Dal Riada Supports F North Channel - Strathclyde
A Deira Supports A Mercia
A Mercia Supports A Deira
F Moray Firth Supports F West Frisian Coast - North Sea
F North Channel - Strathclyde
F Scapa Flow Hold
F West Frisian Coast - North Sea

Bretons:

A Chester - Mercia

Norse:

A Jamtland Supports A Opplandene - Varmland
F Lappland(wc) Hold
F Norwegian Sea - Trondelag
A Opplandene - Varmland
F Rogaland Coast - Hordaland

AngloSaxons:

F Brittany - English Channel
F English Channel - Strait of Dover
A Kent Hold
A Neustria - Austrasia
A Powys Hold

Danes:

F Agder - Rogaland
A Austrasia Supports F North Frisian Coast - Frisia
F Bay of Bothnia - Lappland(ec)
F Jelling(wc) Supports F Ribe(wc) - North Frisian Coast
F Kattegat - Skagerrak
F North Frisian Coast - Frisia
F Ribe(wc) - North Frisian Coast
F Rogaland - Hordaland
F Skagerrak - North Sea
A Svear Supports A Varmland
A Varmland Supports A Vestfold
F Viborg Supports F Kattegat - Skagerrak
A Vestfold Supports F Rogaland - Hordaland

Results:

Gaels:

F Connaught - Hebridean Sea
F Dyfed Hold
F Gaelic Sea Convoys A Leinster - Pengwern
A Gwynned Supports A Leinster - Pengwern
A Leinster - Pengwern
F Ulster Supports F Connaught - Hebridean Sea

Scots:

A Dal Riada Supports F North Channel - Strathclyde
A Deira Supports A Mercia
A Mercia Supports A Deira (*Cut*)
F Moray Firth Supports F West Frisian Coast - North Sea
F North Channel - Strathclyde
F Scapa Flow Hold
F West Frisian Coast - North Sea

Bretons:

A Chester - Mercia (*Fails*)

Norse:

A Jamtland Supports A Opplandene - Varmland
F Lappland(wc) Hold
F Norwegian Sea - Trondelag
A Opplandene - Varmland (*Fails*)
F Rogaland Coast - Hordaland (*Fails*)

AngloSaxons:

F Brittany - English Channel
F English Channel - Strait of Dover
A Kent Hold
A Neustria - Austrasia (*Fails*)
A Powys Hold

Danes:

F Agder - Rogaland
A Austrasia Supports F North Frisian Coast - Frisia (*Cut*)
F Bay of Bothnia - Lappland(ec) (*Fails*)
F Jelling(wc) Supports F Ribe(wc) - North Frisian Coast
F Kattegat - Skagerrak (*Fails*)
F North Frisian Coast - Frisia
F Ribe(wc) - North Frisian Coast
F Rogaland - Hordaland
F Skagerrak - North Sea (*Fails*)
A Svear Supports A Varmland
A Varmland Supports A Vestfold (*Cut*)
F Viborg Supports F Kattegat - Skagerrak (*Fails*)
A Vestfold Supports F Rogaland - Hordaland

Winter Adjustments:

Bretons:

Remove A Chester

Norse:

Remove
Remove

AngloSaxons:

Build

Danes:

Build
Build

Status:

Gaels:     Supp  6 Unit  6 Build  0
Scots:     Supp  7 Unit  7 Build  0
Bretons:   Supp  0 Unit  1 Remove  1
Norse:     Supp  3 Unit  5 Remove  2
AngloSaxons: Supp  6 Unit  5 Build  1
Danes:     Supp 16 Unit 13 Build  2
Swedes:    Supp  0 Unit  0 Build  0



Thanks!
B.

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DC 262: Angstskrik - Fall 831 Adjudication - Kenshi777   (Nov 23, 2009, 10:38 am)
I have received prelims of all required adjustments. I am willing to
adjudicate early before I depart on Tuesday if all remaining players
(Norse/Danes/Anglo-Saxons/Gaels/Scots) agree. Please email me before
noon Tuesday to vote in favor or against this proposal.

I know Thanksgiving is a great time for Dip, I'd rather give you all a
Spring season to enjoy.

If I receive five yes votes, I will adjudicate immediately. If I
receive any no votes or receive less than five votes, the Monday, Nov
30 1700 EST deadline for Winter 831 will stand.

B.

On 11/19/09, Benjamin Hester <screwtape777(at)gmail.com> wrote:

Honored Kings of the Dark Ages:

Many pitched battles rage across the continent and on the high seas
this fall, but few result in a transfer of dots. The Scots regain the
North Sea over Danish opposition, though the Danes advance their
fleets successfully along the coast. The Danes also advance
successfully in the only transfer of dots this season, seizing
Rogaland and Hordaland. Meanwhile, back in the south, the
Anglo-Saxons advance along the coast to enter the fray in the central
seas...

We bid farewell to our Breton player this season, as his last SC falls
to the Anglo-Saxons. A big thank you to Matt for playing Dip as it
should be, and fighting to the very finish. You are welcome to a seat
in any future games I GM. I would appreciate an EOG statement from
both you (and Mark!) if you are willing to provide one.

No retreats needed, so we move straight to the next deadline for
Winter 831, which will be extended until Monday, November 30th for the
US Thanksgiving Day holiday.

DC 262 Player List:

Nick Higgins - Cyning of the Angles and Saxons (Anglo-Saxons)
congressofvienna1814 AT yahoo DOT com

Matthew Kelly - Brenin of the Brythons (Britons)
kelly058 AT verizon DOT net

Gregory Bim-Merle - Kong of the Dani (Danes)
gbimmerle AT gmail DOT com

Nathan Deily - Ard Rí na hÉireann (Gaels)
ndeily AT yahoo DOT com

Scott Troemel - Kong of the Norge (Norse)
brn2dip AT yahoo DOT com

Nigel Phillips - Rí Alban (Scots)
nephilli99 AT hotmail DOT com

Mark Duffield - Konung of the Suetidi (Swedes)
captain_sicarius AT hotmail DOT com

and me, your humble GM, B. (Benjamin Hester)
screwtape777 AT gmail DOT com

Orders:

Gaels:

F Connaught - Hebridean Sea
F Dyfed Hold
F Gaelic Sea Convoys A Leinster - Pengwern
A Gwynned Supports A Leinster - Pengwern
A Leinster - Pengwern
F Ulster Supports F Connaught - Hebridean Sea

Scots:

A Dal Riada Supports F North Channel - Strathclyde
A Deira Supports A Mercia
A Mercia Supports A Deira
F Moray Firth Supports F West Frisian Coast - North Sea
F North Channel - Strathclyde
F Scapa Flow Hold
F West Frisian Coast - North Sea

Bretons:

A Chester - Mercia

Norse:

A Jamtland Supports A Opplandene - Varmland
F Lappland(wc) Hold
F Norwegian Sea - Trondelag
A Opplandene - Varmland
F Rogaland Coast - Hordaland

AngloSaxons:

F Brittany - English Channel
F English Channel - Strait of Dover
A Kent Hold
A Neustria - Austrasia
A Powys Hold

Danes:

F Agder - Rogaland
A Austrasia Supports F North Frisian Coast - Frisia
F Bay of Bothnia - Lappland(ec)
F Jelling(wc) Supports F Ribe(wc) - North Frisian Coast
F Kattegat - Skagerrak
F North Frisian Coast - Frisia
F Ribe(wc) - North Frisian Coast
F Rogaland - Hordaland
F Skagerrak - North Sea
A Svear Supports A Varmland
A Varmland Supports A Vestfold
F Viborg Supports F Kattegat - Skagerrak
A Vestfold Supports F Rogaland - Hordaland

Results:

Gaels:

F Connaught - Hebridean Sea
F Dyfed Hold
F Gaelic Sea Convoys A Leinster - Pengwern
A Gwynned Supports A Leinster - Pengwern
A Leinster - Pengwern
F Ulster Supports F Connaught - Hebridean Sea

Scots:

A Dal Riada Supports F North Channel - Strathclyde
A Deira Supports A Mercia
A Mercia Supports A Deira (*Cut*)
F Moray Firth Supports F West Frisian Coast - North Sea
F North Channel - Strathclyde
F Scapa Flow Hold
F West Frisian Coast - North Sea

Bretons:

A Chester - Mercia (*Fails*)

Norse:

A Jamtland Supports A Opplandene - Varmland
F Lappland(wc) Hold
F Norwegian Sea - Trondelag
A Opplandene - Varmland (*Fails*)
F Rogaland Coast - Hordaland (*Fails*)

AngloSaxons:

F Brittany - English Channel
F English Channel - Strait of Dover
A Kent Hold
A Neustria - Austrasia (*Fails*)
A Powys Hold

Danes:

F Agder - Rogaland
A Austrasia Supports F North Frisian Coast - Frisia (*Cut*)
F Bay of Bothnia - Lappland(ec) (*Fails*)
F Jelling(wc) Supports F Ribe(wc) - North Frisian Coast
F Kattegat - Skagerrak (*Fails*)
F North Frisian Coast - Frisia
F Ribe(wc) - North Frisian Coast
F Rogaland - Hordaland
F Skagerrak - North Sea (*Fails*)
A Svear Supports A Varmland
A Varmland Supports A Vestfold (*Cut*)
F Viborg Supports F Kattegat - Skagerrak (*Fails*)
A Vestfold Supports F Rogaland - Hordaland

Winter Adjustments:

Bretons:

Remove A Chester

Norse:

Remove
Remove

AngloSaxons:

Build

Danes:

Build
Build

Status:

Gaels: Supp 6 Unit 6 Build 0
Scots: Supp 7 Unit 7 Build 0
Bretons: Supp 0 Unit 1 Remove 1
Norse: Supp 3 Unit 5 Remove 2
AngloSaxons: Supp 6 Unit 5 Build 1
Danes: Supp 16 Unit 13 Build 2
Swedes: Supp 0 Unit 0 Build 0



Thanks!
B.

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Dc 277: Fall 1997 Reminder - AlanRFarrington   (Nov 22, 2009, 6:35 pm)
Still need a lot of orders. Due up in 24 hour hours.

Alan Farrington
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dc278 - Spring 1903 Reminder - z93blom   (Nov 22, 2009, 12:38 pm)
Diplomats,


This is just a reminder for the Spring 1903 Movement that is due on Monday, 23th of November,  19:00 GMT (7PM). You currently have about 24½ hours left to change your orders.


/Fredrik

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DC267 tomorrow - MattTheLesser   (Nov 22, 2009, 8:14 am)
Summer 2014 finally comes our way tomorrow at 9 eastern, so make sure
you get those final orders in! I have confirmed all orders I have received.

Matt

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DCI s05 results! (correction) - FuzzyLogic   (Nov 21, 2009, 11:04 pm)
Whoops, just noticed I misentered F Bul-Gre as F Bul-Con. The Bulgarian navy was indeed ordered to Greece, which had a chain reaction of… getting itself dislodged. Smile To Con. Adam if you prefer otherwise let the group know by Monday!

Same deadline… next Friday 3pm Central.
-mike

Austria:
A Budapest - Galicia
F Greece Supports F Ionian Sea - Aegean Sea (*Cut*)
A Rumania Supports A Serbia - Bulgaria
A Serbia - Bulgaria
A Tyrolia Supports A Burgundy - Munich
A Venice - Trieste
A Vienna - Bohemia

England:
F Edinburgh Hold
F London Supports F Brest - English Channel
A Wales - Liverpool

France:
F Brest - English Channel
A Burgundy - Munich (*Fails*)
A Marseilles - Burgundy (*Fails*)
F Portugal - Mid-Atlantic Ocean
A Spain - Gascony

Germany:
A Livonia - Moscow
A Munich - Burgundy (*Fails*)
A Warsaw - Silesia

Italy:
F Ionian Sea - Aegean Sea (*Fails*)
A Moscow - Ukraine
F Naples - Ionian Sea (*Fails*)
A Rome - Venice

Russia:
A Sevastopol Supports A Moscow - Ukraine

Turkey:
F Aegean Sea Supports F Greece - Ionian Sea (*Void*)
A Ankara - Armenia
F Bulgaria(sc) - Greece (*Dislodged to Con*)
F Smyrna - Eastern Mediterranean

Norway:
A Belgium Supports A Munich - Burgundy
A Denmark - Kiel
F English Channel - Irish Sea
F Holland Supports F North Sea
F North Sea Supports F Norway - Norwegian Sea
F Norway - Norwegian Sea
F Norwegian Sea - North Atlantic Ocean
A St Petersburg Supports A Livonia - Moscow

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DCI s05 results! - FuzzyLogic   (Nov 21, 2009, 9:58 pm)
There is one retreat, but the Turk Fleet Aegean can only retreat to Smy, so I just nudged it there and we can move along to Fall. Adam if OTB is preferred let the group know by Monday 3pm Central else this is final!

Turkey: Retreat F AEG-Smy

NEXT: Fall 05 due Friday Nov 27 3pm Central / 2100 GMT. Bear in mind this Thu / Fri is a holiday for most Americans, tho nobody has requested any time off so we’ll keep things moving on Black Friday!

Austria:
A Budapest - Galicia
F Greece Supports F Ionian Sea - Aegean Sea
A Rumania Supports A Serbia - Bulgaria
A Serbia - Bulgaria
A Tyrolia Supports A Burgundy - Munich
A Venice - Trieste
A Vienna - Bohemia

England:
F Edinburgh Hold
F London Supports F Brest - English Channel
A Wales - Liverpool

France:
F Brest - English Channel
A Burgundy - Munich (*Fails*)
A Marseilles - Burgundy (*Fails*)
F Portugal - Mid-Atlantic Ocean
A Spain - Gascony

Germany:
A Livonia - Moscow
A Munich - Burgundy (*Fails*)
A Warsaw - Silesia

Italy:
F Ionian Sea - Aegean Sea
A Moscow - Ukraine
F Naples - Ionian Sea
A Rome - Venice

Russia:
A Sevastopol Supports A Moscow - Ukraine

Turkey:
F Aegean Sea Supports F Greece - Ionian Sea (*Dislodged*)
A Ankara - Armenia
F Bulgaria(sc) - Constantinople
F Smyrna - Eastern Mediterranean

Norway:
A Belgium Supports A Munich - Burgundy
A Denmark - Kiel
F English Channel - Irish Sea
F Holland Supports F North Sea
F North Sea Supports F Norway - Norwegian Sea
F Norway - Norwegian Sea
F Norwegian Sea - North Atlantic Ocean
A St Petersburg Supports A Livonia - Moscow

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Dip on a Soccer Ball - AceRimmer   (Nov 21, 2009, 9:47 pm)
With World Cup qualification having just wrapped up, I've had it in the back of my mind to host a game (or a few) using a soccer ball for the map. Obviously it's not a serious variant but rather a whimsical one that may appeal to fans of both the Beautiful Game and the Bastardly Game (Dip). If I had 16 volunteers, I could even set up a playoff Smile Not to mention I have visions of a penalty-kick style tie-breaker format...

With 32 spaces, the soccer ball has inherent qualities for a small, quick variant. And the uber-symmetry means that totally equivalent positions can be designed for 4-, 6-, 8-, 10-, or 12-player games.

I'm thinking the map would have 12 centers. I am also thinking that the pentagons would be sea spaces (though nothing says they have to be).

The good news is that I have the maps half set up already. I could distribute them viewed from the 'north' pole, the 'south' pole, a world wrap-around map, and (my favorite) Google Earth (in which case, the players could manipulate the globe to look at the map as they please).

My problem is that I have no variant design background. And so I'm unsure which map to start with (I have four candidates with different SC locations), how many centers to start each player with, and (perhaps most difficult) how to arrange canals/rivers to connect the sea spaces.

Anybody want to help?

Anybody want to play(-test)?

Adam

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Unknown (Variants) david_e_cohen Nov 27, 08:02 am
Someone actually did a map for this several years ago (it was discussed in the Diplomacy Variant Workshop yahoogroup). It was the modern world, much simplified, but the geometry when reduced was indeed the symmetrical geometry of a soccer ball. A truly elegant idea.
Unknown (Variants) ericlgame Nov 27, 10:54 pm
could you please post a link to the map of the soccer ball variant cause i cant seem to find it anywhere. thanks.
Unknown (Variants) david_e_cohen Nov 29, 05:29 pm
I don't think there is a functional link around to that variant.
Dip on a Soccer Ball (Variants) charlesf Dec 07, 04:55 pm
Hm, we Germans got seeded on a rather tough part of that ball. Ghana, Serbia and Australia all adjacent, so to speak.

That being said, some high SC density round that Group H sector: Portugal, Ivory Coast, Brazil... oh my... Triangle of Death.

Can't wait for the greatest sports event around! I'm looking forward to all the public viewing events here in Berlin. 2006 was just too much fun! Smile

Charles
Unknown (Variants) AceRimmer Dec 22, 01:05 pm
Well, it's taken me a little time to get around to it, but I've finally drafted a few soccer-ball globes that could serve as the basis for a variant.

The thing that I'd *really* like some input on is where to place rivers/canals.

Since I cannot upload images to this site, I've set up a Google sites page with a bit more explanation where you can look at what I'm talking about:

http://sites.google.com/site/truncicosa/home

Please share your wisdom!
YOUNGSTOWN ANYONE? - AceRimmer   (Nov 21, 2009, 9:33 pm)
You'll be happy to know that the answers to both your questions can be accessed via the links on the DiplomaticCorp home page.

1) Does Youngstown ever get played here? Yes. Twice to date (DC057 & DC154). You can see those games in the Hall of Games.

2) Are there good color / downloadable maps? Yes. If you follow the Variants link and scroll all the way to the bottom, you can link to the DipWiki for Youngstown. At the top of the DipWiki page, there'll be a boring old black and white map. But further down is a color map.
Returning to the variants page, there is also a link marked 'RP', which allows you to download the RealPolitik files for Youngstown (RealPolitik is a Diplomacy adjudication software which I favor).

Now, for the reeeeeaaaaal question: does anybody fancy a game of Youngstown? I've always been interested but also a little scared off by those off-board boxes. I could be tempted to play (or GM... but I think I'd rather play for a change).

Adam

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YOUNGSTOWN ANYONE? - lilybeau   (Nov 21, 2009, 6:29 pm)
I started [and pretty much ended] playing Diplomacy in 8th grade in Manhattan...I went to one of those to-the-left of Montessori type elementary schools where you basically did what you wanted. A bunch of us played Diplomacy EVERY DAY during school.

I sought to branch out and heard about [I may have the name wrong] Chess Club or something on 72nd Street(?). I went and they played Youngstown. I got spanked [I think I was France]. I've never played since and have always wanted to do so.

I tried playing Diplomacy on line in the mid-90s when the internet starting going full force but I could never hook up with a game, so I'm really glad, 35 years later, to be playing again.

This all leads up to...does a Youngstown game ever get going on here? And if it did, are there downloadable maps? I can only find a crude black and white version.
Thanks

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YOUNGSTOWN ANYONE? (Variants) AceRimmer Nov 21, 09:33 pm
You'll be happy to know that the answers to both your questions can be accessed via the links on the DiplomaticCorp home page.

1) Does Youngstown ever get played here? Yes. Twice to date (DC057 & DC154). You can see those games in the Hall of Games.

2) Are there good color / downloadable maps? Yes. If you follow the Variants link and scroll all the way to the bottom, you can link to the DipWiki for Youngstown. At the top of the DipWiki page, there'll be a boring old black and white map. But further down is a color map.
Returning to the variants page, there is also a link marked 'RP', which allows you to download the RealPolitik files for Youngstown (RealPolitik is a Diplomacy adjudication software which I favor).

Now, for the reeeeeaaaaal question: does anybody fancy a game of Youngstown? I've always been interested but also a little scared off by those off-board boxes. I could be tempted to play (or GM... but I think I'd rather play for a change).

Adam
YOUNGSTOWN ANYONE? (Variants) FuzzyLogic Dec 07, 08:48 am
You can see a chart of all Youngstown games played, here...
http://www.diplomaticcorp.com/country_stats.php?map=Youngstown

I believe there is even a nicer Youngstown map out there than the dipwiki one... see the final map for dc154. Sure it will get played! A GM just needs to open it up on the Open Games page. Anyone want to run one?
YOUNGSTOWN ANYONE? (Variants) lilybeau Dec 08, 07:48 pm
If a GM gets it going [and they permit me as a newbie to join a second game], I'll sign up.

One question, probably stupid, but here goes --

In Standard version, I set up the board and the old wooden pieces from my game I got YEARS ago...it helps me visualize things better...can one get a board somewhere for Youngstown?
PLEASE SOME GM START A YOUNGSTOWN GAME (Variants) lilybeau Jan 25, 09:20 pm
Lets at least see whether anyone but me would sign up...1897 doesn't seem too popular...
YOUNGSTOWN ANYONE? (Variants) FuzzyLogic Jan 25, 09:46 pm
First we have to find a GM then... anyone want to run a Youngstown? I know there is a nice new map of it, see dc154. Totally cleaned up the ugly look of the original Youngstown and made it quite nice.
YOUNGSTOWN ANYONE? (Variants) sgttodd Apr 29, 02:31 pm
If you don't have anyone else by the time I get home Sunday night (5/1) - I'll run it.
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YOUNGSTOWN ANYONE? (Variants) dknemeyer May 06, 02:24 pm
Why is Youngstown such a popular variant? I'm not suggesting it shouldn't be, but it seems to rank up there as one of a handful of variants people talk about a lot and show interest in. Is it the colonial nature of it? The fact it accommodates a lot more players? Or...? Just trying to catch the fever.
YOUNGSTOWN ANYONE? (Variants) Kenshi777 May 06, 02:46 pm
Not one of my favorites by a long shot, and I suspect not really the
most popular as the DipWiki claims either.
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Why is Youngstown such a popular variant? I'm not suggesting it shouldn't
be, but it seems to rank up there as one of a handful of variants people
talk about a lot and show interest in. Is it the colonial nature of it? The
fact it accommodates a lot more players? Or...? Just trying to catch the
fever.

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Youngstown Anyone? (Variants) FuzzyLogic May 07, 11:36 am
Wow.

The Youngstown game is the most popular of the many Diplomacy variants.

That's quite a statement. I'd like to know where the writer of that article came up w that. It's certainly not as popular (2 games) as say Ancient Med (6 games) or Colonial (8 games) in terms of activity here at dc.

The original Youngstown variant was pretty pathetic. The rendering for Realpolitik was choppy, with hard to understand off-board locations. A couple years back tho it was redone, and the new one is actually quite nice. I would say it's really good since the redo.

In my opinion, the desire for it comes from the two most popular games, Standard and Colonial. It simply bridges the gap between the two.
Youngstown Anyone? (Variants) Kenshi777 May 07, 01:54 pm
i should probably shut my mouth right now so as not to be perceived as
arrogant or offensive
but i can't
so...
Youngstown was okay - for its time. The variant design community has
come a long way since then however. The explosion of online groups in
the late 90s caused a sort of rebirth of the Diplomacy hobby, and
dramatically increased the opportunities for variant designers to
collaborate and refine their games.
Even the name Youngstown reflects this trend. The variant was
designed by a Dip community in Ohio that at the time still primarily
played face-to-face. Today, Diplomacy variants are subjected to a
truly global court of public opinion, one that expects much higher
standards of balance and aesthetics out of a variant. And rightly so.
Nothing is more annoying than drawing France in Colonial and knowing
the odds of even scraping out a survival are against you, or trying to
make sense of
Youngstown's off-board regions while looking at the unusual blob that
is supposed to represent Asia.
I have many fond memories of working with Don Hessong to playtest his
early versions of Ancient Med, and working with David Cohen to refine
Sengoku back in 2000. Out of these early partnerships, the DVWorkshop
was born, and though that group has certainly passed its heyday in
favor of gaming community groups like this one, the current group of
successful variant designers still collaborate extensively. Case in
point - Oliver Auth's recent coding of SengokuRev5 and South American
Supremacy for webDiplomacy, and Mario Huys' and Manus Hand's coding of
Sengoku Rev5 for the DPjudge. During those processes, all of them
contributed valuable advice obtained through playtesting.
I don't claim to be the authoritative voice in variant design, or that
mine are the best around. In fact, my favorite variants *aren't* my
own. Those honors go to Ancient Med, with up-and-coming variants like
Known World 901 and WW2-1931 deserving honorable mention. Nor do I
mean to be overly critical of Youngstown - just saying it needs a
facelift, and to be subjected to the same painful process of playtest
and revision that say, Ancient Med (finalized on Version 9) did.
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Wow.

The Youngstown game is the most popular of the many Diplomacy variants.

That's quite a statement. I'd like to know where the writer of that article
came up w that. It's certainly not as popular (2 games) as say Ancient Med
(6 games) or Colonial (8 games) in terms of activity here at dc.

The original Youngstown variant was pretty pathetic. The rendering for
Realpolitik was choppy, with hard to understand off-board locations. A
couple years back tho it was redone, and the new one is actually quite nice.
I would say it's really good since the redo.

In my opinion, the desire for it comes from the two most popular games,
Standard and Colonial. It simply bridges the gap between the two.

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