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DC226 Fall 1909 Results - hapolley   (Aug 20, 2009, 5:57 am)
Standard DC226\Fall/1910
========================
The Deadline for gunboat game dc226 Winter 1910 is Monday 24
AUGUST at 2400 Hrs.

AUSTRIAN REMAINING SC SUROUNDED ON ALL SIDES!
TURKISH FORCES TAKE VEN! GERMAN RETREAT CAN TAKE ENGLISH SC!

COMMUNICATIONS ERRORS AND SPYS DISRUPT MILLITARY ORDERS!

RETREATS
--------
Aust A ven TO OTDb
Germ N NTH TO lon,edi,SKA,HEL,hol,bel,OTDb

BUILDS AND REMOVALS: IF RETREATS ORDERED TO DISBAND
---------------------------------------------------
Engl Remove 1 Unit
Germ Build 2 Units
Turk Build 1 Unit

MOVEMENT RESULTS: [Fall/1910]
-----------------------------
Austria : [A gal - boh][A ven - rom][A nap - rom]
[N tun S N TYN - ION]
{Action Error: N tun S N TYN - ION}, {A ven: Dislodged}
England : (N NRG - NTH)(N swe - BAL)(A wal - yor)(N MID - bre)
(N IRI - ENG)(N den S N NRG - NTH)(A lvn S A mos)
[A mos S A gal - ukr](N WES S A spa)(N TYN S A nap)
(A nwy H ), {Action Error: A mos S A gal - ukr}
{Action Order Error: N TYN S A nap}
Germany : [A war - ukr][A sil - boh][A tyr S A sil - boh]
(A tus S A ven)(A pie S A tyr)(A spa H )(N pic H )
[N NTH H ], {Action Order Error: A tus S A ven}
{N NTH: Dislodged}
Madman :
Turkey : (A bul - rum)[A vie - tyr][A bud - gal](N ADR - ven)
(A arm S A sev)(A sev S A ukr)[A ukr S A bud - gal]
(A tri S N ADR - ven)(N apu S N ADR - ven)
(N AEG S N ION)(N ION S N tun)



POSITIONS: [Fall/1910]
----------------------


Austria ( 3): A gal, A nap, N tun
England (11): N BAL, N bre, N den, N ENG, A lvn, A mos, N NTH
A nwy, N TYN, N WES, A yor
Germany ( 7): N pic, A pie, A sil, A spa, A tus, A tyr, A war
Madman ( 0):
Turkey (11): N AEG, N apu, A arm, A bud, N ION, A rum, A sev
A tri, A ukr, N ven, A vie
Total = ( 32)

ENGINEERED PRESS RELEASES
-------------------------
Willie,


We have accomodated your request for Spain and to dislodge your fleet from


the North Sea. We could not accomodate the request for Brest as it would


require us to pull badly needed forces from the fight against the Turk.


And, in our judgment, an additional two armies shall have the effect


necessary to reverse the tide on the Eastern Front. You need not be alarmed


by the fleet in the Baltic. If we had intended you any harm, we would have


set in at Kiel.
We are certain the pressures from your cabinet are equal to
ours. Nevertheless, if we remain resolute and unified. Ours
in the future of Europe.



Yours fondly,
Bertie






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DC-244 Fall 1459 Adjudication - GAME OVER! - sam_buck_productions a...   (Aug 20, 2009, 12:23 am)
Wow, I really did not expect this to end so quickly, although I am
rather happy I get a Draw instead of an elimination. Thanks to
everyone who played in this. I had a great time. Thanks especially to
Chris (Venice), for even after crippling me, letting me survive on one
center for as long as I did. Another big thank you too Wolf, who was
completely fair but also completely understanding throughout the whole
thing. Again, well played by all, and I hope we meet again.

Farewell
-Sam Buck
Holy Roman Emperor.

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dc265 ~ European Onion - sgttodd   (Aug 19, 2009, 11:24 pm)
Deadline for Winter 1903 adjustments: Monday, August 24; 2359 UTC (1959 EDT)

Austria is eliminated!
Thank you Justin, for your participation and perseverance!

The following units were dislodged:

Austrian A Vienna retreated to Bohemia.

Unit locations:

Austria: A Bohemia.
England: F English Channel, F North Atlantic Ocean.
France: A Brest, A Piedmont, A Spain, F Tunis, F Western Mediterranean.
Germany: A Belgium, A Denmark, A Edinburgh, F Holland, A Munich, F North Sea.
Italy: F Gulf of Lyon, A Rome, A Trieste, A Tyrolia, F Tyrrhenian Sea.
Russia: A Budapest, F Norway, F Norwegian Sea, A Rumania, F Sevastopol, A Silesia, A Sweden, A Vienna.
Turkey: F Aegean Sea, A Albania, A Greece, F Ionian Sea, A Serbia.

Ownership of supply centers:

England: Liverpool, London.
France: Brest, Marseilles, Paris, Portugal, Spain, Tunis.
Germany: Belgium, Berlin, Denmark, Edinburgh, Holland, Kiel, Munich.
Italy: Naples, Rome, Trieste, Venice.
Russia: Budapest, Moscow, Norway, Rumania, Sevastopol, St Petersburg, Sweden, Vienna, Warsaw.
Turkey: Ankara, Bulgaria, Constantinople, Greece, Serbia, Smyrna.

Austria: 0 Supply centers, 1 Unit: Removes 1 unit.
England: 2 Supply centers, 2 Units: Builds 0 units.
France: 6 Supply centers, 5 Units: Builds 1 unit.
Germany: 7 Supply centers, 6 Units: Builds 1 unit.
Italy: 4 Supply centers, 5 Units: Removes 1 unit.
Russia: 9 Supply centers, 8 Units: Builds 1 unit.
Turkey: 6 Supply centers, 5 Units: Builds 1 unit.

Movement results for Fall of 1903.

Austria: A Albania Hold (*Disbanded*).
Austria: A Vienna Hold (*Dislodged*).

England: A Edinburgh, no move received (*Disbanded*).
England: F English Channel, no move received.
England: F North Atlantic Ocean, no move received.

France: A Brest Hold.
France: A Marseilles - Spain.
France: A Piedmont - Marseilles (*Bounce*).
France: F Tunis Hold.
France: F Western Mediterranean Supports F Tunis.

Germany: A Belgium Supports F Holland.
Germany: A Denmark - Edinburgh.
Germany: F Holland Supports F North Sea.
Germany: A Kiel - Denmark.
Germany: A Munich Hold.
Germany: F North Sea Convoys A Denmark - Edinburgh.

Italy: F Gulf of Lyon Convoys A Rome - Marseilles.
Italy: A Rome - Marseilles (*Bounce*).
Italy: A Trieste Hold.
Italy: A Tyrolia - Piedmont (*Fails*).
Italy: F Tyrrhenian Sea Convoys A Rome - Marseilles.

Russia: A Budapest Supports A Galicia - Vienna.
Russia: A Galicia - Vienna.
Russia: F Norway Supports F Norwegian Sea.
Russia: F Norwegian Sea Supports A Denmark - Edinburgh.
Russia: A Rumania Supports A Budapest.
Russia: F Sevastopol Supports A Rumania.
Russia: A Sweden Supports F Norway.
Russia: A Warsaw - Silesia.

Turkey: F Aegean Sea Hold.
Turkey: A Bulgaria - Serbia.
Turkey: A Greece Supports A Serbia - Albania.
Turkey: F Ionian Sea Supports F Tyrrhenian Sea - Tunis (*Void*).
Turkey: A Serbia - Albania.

Deadline for Winter 1903 adjustments: Monday, August 24; 2359 UTC (1959 EDT)
files: http://mainecav.org/diplomacy

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DC-244 Fall 1459 Adjudication - GAME OVER! - offdisc   (Aug 19, 2009, 10:22 pm)
Given different circumstances, I would have voted No.  I'm going crazy at work and finding it a little tough to keep 3 game strategies running in my mind.  That being said, I can't believe that everyone else also voted Yes.  Only *1* Elimination???  We should have just declared peace at the start.

Overall, this was a fun game and made me realize how much diplomacy can really sway opinions.  Jason and I played a great alliance, and we faced some very tough competition in Venice and Turkey.  Very well played in the board center!

Finally, Congrats to the only winner of our little game:  Rodrigo, who goes home with a new baby!

Mike---------
"Shared Pain is lessened, Shared Joy is increased" --- Spider Robinson
"Whenever some act of wondrous power must be performed, Michael is sent" --- Pope Saint Gregory the Great


On Wed, Aug 19, 2009 at 6:27 PM, C Morse <camorse22(at)yahoo.com ([email]camorse22(at)yahoo.com[/email])> wrote:

Wow!  That's a surprise!  I was sure Mike was going to keep going and eventually wear us down.  I was just on the verge of trying to make peace with Russia.  No, really.  I mean it.  Wink

Good game to all!  Equal thanks to Wolf, our estimable host; Jason, Sam and Mike, who stuck it out from the beginning; and our subs Rodrigo and Brutus for ably filling in so we could finish the game.

Chris







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DC 218 SHIFT LEFT: Spring 1913 results. Fall 1913... - packrat   (Aug 19, 2009, 9:48 pm)
No retreats needed so we move straight to fall. Those orders are due
on August 24 (Monday) at 2100

Check for errors.

Austria:
F Aegean Sea Convoys A Bulgaria - Smyrna
F Albania - Greece
A Budapest - Serbia
A Bulgaria - Smyrna (*Bounce*)
A Constantinople Supports A Bulgaria - Smyrna (*Cut*)
A Piedmont Supports A Venice - Tuscany
A Rumania - Bulgaria (*Fails*)
A Sevastopol Hold
A Trieste - Venice (*Bounce*)
A Venice - Tuscany

France:
F English Channel - Mid-Atlantic Ocean
A Marseilles - Spain (*Bounce*)
A Paris - Burgundy (*Fails*)
A Picardy - Brest

Germany:
A Belgium - Burgundy
A Berlin - Silesia
A Gascony - Spain (*Bounce*)
A Kiel - Holland
F London - English Channel
A Moscow - Ukraine
A Munich Supports A Belgium - Burgundy
F North Sea Supports F London - English Channel
A Norway - St Petersburg
A Ruhr Supports A Belgium - Burgundy
A St Petersburg - Livonia
F Sweden - Norway
A Yorkshire - Wales

Italy:
F Apulia - Venice (*Bounce*)
F Ionian Sea - Adriatic Sea
F Naples - Ionian Sea
A Rome - Tuscany (*Fails*)

Turkey:
A Armenia - Smyrna (*Bounce*)
F Black Sea - Constantinople (*Fails*)

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DC 218 SHIFT LEFT: Spring 1913 results. Fall 1913 Due 8/24/09 (dc218) packrat Aug 20, 06:02 am
BTW - the proposal failed.


From: Packrat <brn2dip(at)yahoo.com>
To: Packrat <brn2dip(at)yahoo.com>; the_master642(at)yahoo.com; The White Wolf <cloudhurler77(at)yahoo.com>; jwmchughjr(at)gmail.com; Stephen Worthy <stephen(at)worthy1.fsnet.co.uk>; g_mod23(at)hotmail.com; matthew.kremer(at)yale.edu; scaponig(at)yahoo.com; stephenworthy(at)rocketmail.com; camorse22(at)yahoo.com; stevelytton(at)gmail.com
Cc: dc218(at)diplomaticcorp.com
Sent: Wednesday, August 19, 2009 10:48:42 PM
Subject: Re: DC 218 SHIFT LEFT: Spring 1913 results. Fall 1913 Due 8/24/09

No retreats needed so we move straight to fall. Those orders are due
on August 24 (Monday) at 2100

Check for errors.

Austria:
F Aegean Sea Convoys A Bulgaria - Smyrna
F Albania - Greece
A Budapest - Serbia
A Bulgaria - Smyrna (*Bounce*)
A Constantinople Supports A Bulgaria - Smyrna (*Cut*)
A Piedmont Supports A Venice - Tuscany
A Rumania - Bulgaria (*Fails*)
A Sevastopol Hold
A Trieste - Venice (*Bounce*)
A Venice - Tuscany

France:
F English Channel - Mid-Atlantic Ocean
A Marseilles - Spain (*Bounce*)
A Paris - Burgundy (*Fails*)
A Picardy - Brest

Germany:
A Belgium - Burgundy
A Berlin - Silesia
A Gascony - Spain (*Bounce*)
A Kiel - Holland
F London - English Channel
A Moscow - Ukraine
A Munich Supports A Belgium - Burgundy
F North Sea Supports F London - English Channel
A Norway - St Petersburg
A Ruhr Supports A Belgium - Burgundy
A St Petersburg - Livonia
F Sweden - Norway
A Yorkshire - Wales

Italy:
F Apulia - Venice (*Bounce*)
F Ionian Sea - Adriatic Sea
F Naples - Ionian Sea
A Rome - Tuscany (*Fails*)

Turkey:
A Armenia - Smyrna (*Bounce*)
F Black Sea - Constantinople (*Fails*)
DC 218 SHIFT LEFT: Spring 1913 results. Fall 1913 Due 8/24/09 (dc218) packrat Aug 23, 03:09 pm
Orders due in 28 hours - get em in.

Some are missing.


From: Packrat <brn2dip(at)yahoo.com>
To: Packrat <brn2dip(at)yahoo.com>; the_master642(at)yahoo.com; The White Wolf <cloudhurler77(at)yahoo.com>; jwmchughjr(at)gmail.com; Stephen Worthy <stephen(at)worthy1.fsnet.co.uk>; g_mod23(at)hotmail.com; matthew.kremer(at)yale.edu; scaponig(at)yahoo.com; stephenworthy(at)rocketmail.com; camorse22(at)yahoo.com; stevelytton(at)gmail.com
Cc: dc218(at)diplomaticcorp.com
Sent: Thursday, August 20, 2009 6:54:15 AM
Subject: Re: DC 218 SHIFT LEFT: Spring 1913 results. Fall 1913 Due 8/24/09

BTW - the proposal failed.


From: Packrat <brn2dip(at)yahoo.com>
To: Packrat <brn2dip(at)yahoo.com>; the_master642(at)yahoo.com; The White Wolf <cloudhurler77(at)yahoo.com>; jwmchughjr(at)gmail.com; Stephen Worthy <stephen(at)worthy1.fsnet.co.uk>; g_mod23(at)hotmail.com; matthew.kremer(at)yale.edu; scaponig(at)yahoo.com; stephenworthy(at)rocketmail.com; camorse22(at)yahoo.com; stevelytton(at)gmail.com
Cc: dc218(at)diplomaticcorp.com
Sent: Wednesday, August 19, 2009 10:48:42 PM
Subject: Re: DC 218 SHIFT LEFT: Spring 1913 results. Fall 1913 Due 8/24/09

No retreats needed so we move straight to fall. Those orders are due
on August 24 (Monday) at 2100

Check for errors.

Austria:
F Aegean Sea Convoys A Bulgaria - Smyrna
F Albania - Greece
A Budapest - Serbia
A Bulgaria - Smyrna (*Bounce*)
A Constantinople Supports A Bulgaria - Smyrna (*Cut*)
A Piedmont Supports A Venice - Tuscany
A Rumania - Bulgaria (*Fails*)
A Sevastopol Hold
A Trieste - Venice (*Bounce*)
A Venice - Tuscany

France:
F English Channel - Mid-Atlantic Ocean
A Marseilles - Spain (*Bounce*)
A Paris - Burgundy (*Fails*)
A Picardy - Brest

Germany:
A Belgium - Burgundy
A Berlin - Silesia
A Gascony - Spain (*Bounce*)
A Kiel - Holland
F London - English Channel
A Moscow - Ukraine
A Munich Supports A Belgium - Burgundy
F North Sea Supports F London - English Channel
A Norway - St Petersburg
A Ruhr Supports A Belgium - Burgundy
A St Petersburg - Livonia
F Sweden - Norway
A Yorkshire - Wales

Italy:
F Apulia - Venice (*Bounce*)
F Ionian Sea - Adriatic Sea
F Naples - Ionian Sea
A Rome - Tuscany (*Fails*)

Turkey:
A Armenia - Smyrna (*Bounce*)
F Black Sea - Constantinople (*Fails*)
Dc 225: End Game - Make Love; Not War [a GM's EoG] - AlanRFarrington   (Aug 19, 2009, 9:11 pm)
Mark,

I appologize if that adjudication screwed up your season. I must have truly believed the deadline was arranged for the earlier period when I adjudicated. I normally only adjudicate early if i have everyone's permission or if it is one or two retreats.

My apologies,
Alan Farrington

Date: Wed, 19 Aug 2009 21:01:17 -0500
Subject: Re: Dc 225: End Game - Make Love; Not War [a GM's EoG]
From: mdemagogue(at)gmail.com
To: alley_cat_1990(at)hotmail.com
CC: zipholm(at)hotmail.com; mistro914(at)gmail.com; verticallychallangedcutie(at)yahoo.com; svillamayor(at)mail.cl; jyjusy(at)hotmail.com; dc225(at)diplomaticcorp.com; mike(at)fuzzylogicllc.net; aandtstevens(at)gmail.com; icarusflier(at)gmail.com; mc3358a(at)student.american.edu

I'll get the ball rolling with my EOG.

First, I'd like to extend a thank you to Alan for running an excellent game. I'll be looking for that modern variant to pop up on the website, or any other game that you feel like running.

In my initial communication with France and Germany, a western triple was proposed which didn't get off the ground due to mistrust between France and Germany, coupled by Germany opting to not order F Kie to Den to attempt to deny Sweden to Russia. Instead, in fall of 1901, Germany offered me a free hand in the north against Russia by ceding Denmark to me, in exchange for cooperation against France. There wasn't really much out there that could have beat that offer so I accepted, and that dictated my strategy in the first half of the game.

In general, there wasn't a lot of communication between the triangles on the board in the first half of the game, at least on my end. That was partly my fault, as I was concerned with hashing things out in my own triangle, and there was a lot of problems early with the aborted western triple and my attempts to figure out where I should end up allying myself. I never received anything from Russia, and only an introductory email from Turkey.

I think this lack of communication enabled France to stay in the game by enlisting some assistance from the first two Italian leaders to defend against my fleets, which enabled him to stick around for quite awhile. Mr. Stroz, on the other hand, saw a quick gain from allying with Jyri and myself against France and that ensured his demise.

Around 1906 I figured that I would have to be lucky to get a solo, and I think this was proven correct by the moves subsequent to that year. In 1906 (or was it 1905) Santiago had a fleet in the adriatic and an army in trieste. Had he moved on his Italian ally at that point, I daresay I would have soloed because I would have broken into the med. After that year, Michael was in a good position to ally with Sultan Michael and they took Austria down. They were ably assisted by the decision to retreat three armies otb during a spring retreat phase. .. I still don't know what the decision calculus was there.

Anyhoo, the only mistake I made I made on account of an email stating that the adjudication was in 8 minutes, when it was actually due tomorrow. I submitted orders on the spur of the moment and Alan adjudicated on the spur of having all the orders in. It wouldn't have affected things because I still had 4 fleets to blockade the mid atlantic and sufficient units to defend the home island.

That's pretty much all that I have, and it's been a pleasure playing with you all.

On Tue, Aug 18, 2009 at 6:44 PM, Alan Farrington <alley_cat_1990(at)hotmail.com ([email]alley_cat_1990(at)hotmail.com[/email])> wrote:

Its been 11 years since the continent of Europe was plunged into war, but finally the seven sinners of Europe have become the four sinners and decided to put away their guns and agreed to end the war.

A Four way Draw between Sultan Michael Holm [8 centers], Michael Stroz in Italy [9 centers], Kaiser Jyri Syrja in Germany [3 centers], and Her Majesty the Queen Mark Utterback [14 centers].

I'm sure everyoen would enjoy reading end of game statements from all the different players (past and present). Feel free to group email them to everyone or send them to me and I will forward them along. As for the GM I have just a few words that I would like to relay about the makeup of this game.

First of all I would like to thank Michael Stroz for stepping up and leading italy. He was the third leader to command those pesky Green units and did a magnificent job. I'd also like to thank Rachael Jameson, Santiago Villamayor, and Anthony Stevens for keeping with their declining positions even though the outcome was bleak. Its people like you that I can count on. Thanks!

I have two points to make about the game: First I think Italy did a great job getting a leg up on Mark in what is usually a complete stalemate line. I'm unsure how it would have worked out if the game had continued. Also, I've been waiting for the Turk to stab Italy since Fall 1909! If a stab wasn't coming why was that army parked in Serbia for so long? Turkey did the "right" thing, if he had stabbed I believe Mark would have won the solo and Holm would have lost his share in the draw, but the temptation to improve your position must have been immense.

Lastly I would like to make a shout out to Andy [The White Wolf] who was there to answer my question and coach me through my fist GM experience whenever I needed him.

If any of you are still reading I hope to see you in either the next game I play [South American Supremacy] , or the next game I GM [hopefully a Modern Variant]

Thank you all,
Alan Farrington

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Dc 225: End Game - Make Love; Not War [a GM's EoG] - MDemagogue   (Aug 19, 2009, 9:01 pm)
I'll get the ball rolling with my EOG. 

First, I'd like to extend a thank you to Alan for running an excellent game. I'll be looking for that modern variant to pop up on the website, or any other game that you feel like running. 

In my initial communication with France and Germany, a western triple was proposed which didn't get off the ground due to mistrust between France and Germany, coupled by Germany opting to not order F Kie to Den to attempt to deny Sweden to Russia.  Instead, in fall of 1901, Germany offered me a free hand in the north against Russia by ceding Denmark to me, in exchange for cooperation against France.  There wasn't really much out there that could have beat that offer so I accepted, and that dictated my strategy in the first half of the game. 

In general, there wasn't a lot of communication between the triangles on the board in the first half of the game, at least on my end.  That was partly my fault, as I was concerned with hashing things out in my own triangle, and there was a lot of problems early with the aborted western triple and my attempts to figure out where I should end up allying myself.  I never received anything from Russia, and only an introductory email from Turkey.

I think this lack of communication enabled France to stay in the game by enlisting some assistance from the first two Italian leaders to defend against my fleets, which enabled him to stick around for quite awhile.  Mr. Stroz, on the other hand, saw a quick gain from allying with Jyri and myself against France and that ensured his demise. 

Around 1906 I figured that I would have to be lucky to get a solo, and I think this was proven correct by the moves subsequent to that year.  In 1906 (or was it 1905) Santiago had a fleet in the adriatic and an army in trieste.  Had he moved on his Italian ally at that point, I daresay I would have soloed because I would have broken into the med.  After that year, Michael was in a good position to ally with Sultan Michael and they took Austria down.  They were ably assisted by the decision to retreat three armies otb during a spring retreat phase. .. I still don't know what the decision calculus was there.

Anyhoo, the only mistake I made I made on account of an email stating that the adjudication was in 8 minutes, when it was actually due tomorrow.  I submitted orders on the spur of the moment and Alan adjudicated on the spur of having all the orders in.  It wouldn't have affected things because I still had 4 fleets to blockade the mid atlantic and sufficient units to defend the home island. 

That's pretty much all that I have, and it's been a pleasure playing with you all.

On Tue, Aug 18, 2009 at 6:44 PM, Alan Farrington <alley_cat_1990(at)hotmail.com ([email]alley_cat_1990(at)hotmail.com[/email])> wrote:

Its been 11 years since the continent of Europe was plunged into war, but finally the seven sinners of Europe have become the four sinners and decided to put away their guns and agreed to end the war.

A Four way Draw between Sultan Michael Holm [8 centers], Michael Stroz  in Italy [9 centers], Kaiser Jyri Syrja in Germany [3 centers], and Her Majesty the Queen Mark Utterback [14 centers].

I'm sure everyoen would enjoy reading end of game statements from all the different players (past and present).  Feel free to group email them to everyone or send them to me and I will forward them along.  As for the GM I have just a few words that I would like to relay about the makeup of this game.

First of all I would like to thank Michael Stroz for stepping up and leading italy.  He was the third leader to command those pesky Green units and did a magnificent job.  I'd also like to thank Rachael Jameson, Santiago Villamayor, and Anthony Stevens for keeping with their declining positions even though the outcome was bleak.  Its people like you that I can count on.  Thanks!

I have two points to make about the game: First I think Italy did a great job getting a leg up on Mark in what is usually a complete stalemate line.  I'm unsure how it would have worked out if the game had continued.  Also, I've been waiting for the Turk to stab Italy since Fall 1909!  If a stab wasn't coming why was that army parked in Serbia for so long?  Turkey did the "right" thing, if he had stabbed I believe Mark would have won the solo and Holm would have lost his share in the draw, but the temptation to improve your position must have been immense.

Lastly I would  like to make a shout out to Andy [The White Wolf] who was there to answer my question and coach me through my fist GM experience whenever I needed him.

If any of you are still reading I hope to see you in either the next game I play [South American Supremacy] , or the next game I GM [hopefully a Modern Variant]

Thank you all,
Alan Farrington

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DC268 - Froctal   (Aug 19, 2009, 8:32 pm)
Christine (and all)-

What with this economy, I haven't seen a paycheck in almost a year. Well yesterday I was offered a good job, actually my dream job, but it requires moving my family from Tennessee to New Hampshire by next Tuesday.

Needless to say, I will be off-the-radar for a bit. I am trying to get my house together such that I haven't even opened the Spring moves yet. So can you all hold for me? I wouldn't want to be stabbed (or stab??) without the full enjoyment of it. Smile

John (Europe)


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Spring 1902 - FLTeacher   (Aug 19, 2009, 8:14 pm)
I am one of the NMRed players. Sry. I think 5 days is still WAY TOO LONG and no one keeps up on the communication because they say, "I have 5 days to play this turn -- I will check on it tomorrow." And we all know that because of the lack of urgency tomorrow never comes.

Anyway, I am sending in my moves pronto ...

On Wed, Aug 19, 2009 at 2:58 PM, Mikael Johansson <m_don_j(at)hotmail.com ([email]m_don_j(at)hotmail.com[/email])> wrote:

Gents,

A Little input from your observer/resource; As soon as you get teh adjudication for a turn, send in prelim orders. That way you won't suffer any Nmr's (usually), and it's a big help for any GM. Just putting that out there.

/ Mikael

Date: Wed, 19 Aug 2009 09:52:31 -0700
From: mvpenner(at)yahoo.com ([email]mvpenner(at)yahoo.com[/email])
Subject: Spring 1902
To: AandTStevens(at)GMail.com; applepower(at)rocketmail.com ([email]applepower(at)rocketmail.com[/email]); buckhamil(at)yahoo.com ([email]buckhamil(at)yahoo.com[/email]); davidzil(at)lycos.com ([email]davidzil(at)lycos.com[/email]); dc269(at)diplomaticcorp.com ([email]dc269(at)diplomaticcorp.com[/email]); ericklindsay(at)gmail.com ([email]ericklindsay(at)gmail.com[/email]); fred.p.villalobos(at)gmail.com ([email]fred.p.villalobos(at)gmail.com[/email]); m_don_j(at)hotmail.com ([email]m_don_j(at)hotmail.com[/email]); Starwars_ratty(at)yahoo.com ([email]Starwars_ratty(at)yahoo.com[/email])

Hey there guys... so, the deadline for spring moves comes in 10 minutes and I have a grand total of one set... and that doesn't include the players who asked me to speed up the game.  I don't think five days is particularly quick, but if you don't have a chance in those five days to do a little email diplomacy, it's possible to ask for an extention.  Now, I guess I'll be granting everyone the extention here because just about all of you need it.  So, we'll try for the same time tomorrow.  Unfortunately, I won't have a chance to adjudicate until pretty late in the evening tomorrow and even that isn't a guarantee, but please try to get your moves in by noon CDT tomorrow.

mvp



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DC-244 Fall 1459 Adjudication - GAME OVER! - camorse22   (Aug 19, 2009, 7:27 pm)
Wow! That's a surprise! I was sure Mike was going to keep going and eventually wear us down. I was just on the verge of trying to make peace with Russia. No, really. I mean it. Wink

Good game to all! Equal thanks to Wolf, our estimable host; Jason, Sam and Mike, who stuck it out from the beginning; and our subs Rodrigo and Brutus for ably filling in so we could finish the game.

Chris


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Sent: Wednesday, August 19, 2009 7:03:44 PM
Subject: DC-244 Fall 1459 Adjudication - GAME OVER!

Folks,
That's right - the game is over. Every remaining player voted in favor of the DIAS. Congratulations to Mike, Sam, Jason, Rodrigo, Kevin and Chris. Special thanks to Sam, who gamely held on with only one unit for four game years. Also, thanks to Andrew for sticking with it until he was eliminated.
End of Game statements will be appreciated - feel free to send them to everyone, or you can send them to me and I will forward them out.

Players:

England: Mike Hoffman mrh(at)panix.com
France: Andrew d'Adesky andrewdadesky(at)hotmail.com
Holy Roman Empire: Sam Buck Sam_Buck_Productions(at)Mac.com
Russia: Jason K Githraine(at)yahoo.com
Spain: Rodrigo Yanez rpyanez(at)gmail.com
Ottoman Empire: Kevin Burt Brutus(at)wbhsi.net
Venice: Chris Morse camorse22(at)yahoo.com


Final Orders:

England:
F Brest - Mid-Atlantic Ocean
A Burgundy Supports A Munich - Switzerland
F English Channel Supports F Brest - Mid-Atlantic Ocean
F Gulf of Lyon Supports F Tunis - Tyrrhenian Sea
A Holland - Kiel (*Bounce*)
F Irish Sea Supports F Brest - Mid-Atlantic Ocean
A Kiel - Munich (*Fails*)
A Munich - Switzerland (*Fails*)
F Tunis - Tyrrhenian Sea

Holy_Roman_Empire:
A Berlin - Kiel (*Bounce*)

Russia:
F Ankara Hold
A Armenia - Sevastopol
F Black Sea - Rumania (*Bounce*)
A Sevastopol - Moscow
A Sweden - Finland
A Ukraine Supports A Warsaw (*Cut*)
A Warsaw Hold (*Dislodged*)

Spain:
F Marseilles Hold
F Mid-Atlantic Ocean Hold (*Dislodged*)
F North Africa - Tunis
F Spain(sc) Supports F Marseilles

Ottoman_Emprire:
A Bulgaria Supports A Constantinople
A Constantinople Supports F Smyrna
F Smyrna Supports A Constantinople

Venice:
A Budapest Supports A Serbia - Rumania (*Fails*)
A Galicia - Warsaw
F Ionian Sea Supports F North Africa - Tunis
A Livonia - St Petersburg
F Rome - Tyrrhenian Sea (*Fails*)
A Rumania - Ukraine (*Fails*)
A Serbia - Rumania (*Bounce*)
A Silesia Supports A Galicia - Warsaw
A Switzerland - Munich (*Fails*)
A Tyrolia Supports A Switzerland - Munich
F Tyrrhenian Sea - Western Mediterranean


Final Unit Positions: (SCs/Units)

England: (9/9)
Armies - Bur, Hol, Kie, Mun
Fleets - Eng, Iri, Lyo, MAO, Tys

France: ELIMINATED 1457

Holy Roman Empire: (1/1)
Armies - Ber

Russia: (7/7)
Armies - Fin, Mos, Sev, Ukr, War (dislodged)
Fleets - Ank, Bla

Spain: (4/4)
Fleets - Mar, Spa(sc), Tun, MAO (dislodged)

Ottoman Empire: (3/3)
Armies - Bul, Con
Fleets - Smy

Venice: (11/11)
Armies - Bud, Rum, Ser, Sil, StP, Swi, Trl, War
Fleets - Ion, Rom, Wes


Thanks for playing, everyone! I hope to see you all again sooner or later. SHAMELESS PLUG: I'm currently recruiting for a Machiavelli game. See re003 on the DC Open Games page.


Map and RP file are attached for your convenience, enjoy!

Thanks all,
The White Wolf

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DC-244 Fall 1459 Adjudication - GAME OVER! - TheWhiteWolf   (Aug 19, 2009, 6:03 pm)
Folks,
That's right - the game is over. Every remaining player voted in favor of the DIAS. Congratulations to Mike, Sam, Jason, Rodrigo, Kevin and Chris. Special thanks to Sam, who gamely held on with only one unit for four game years. Also, thanks to Andrew for sticking with it until he was eliminated.
End of Game statements will be appreciated - feel free to send them to everyone, or you can send them to me and I will forward them out.

Players:

England: Mike Hoffman mrh(at)panix.com
France: Andrew d'Adesky andrewdadesky(at)hotmail.com
Holy Roman Empire: Sam Buck Sam_Buck_Productions(at)Mac.com
Russia: Jason K Githraine(at)yahoo.com
Spain: Rodrigo Yanez rpyanez(at)gmail.com
Ottoman Empire: Kevin Burt Brutus(at)wbhsi.net
Venice: Chris Morse camorse22(at)yahoo.com


Final Orders:

England:
F Brest - Mid-Atlantic Ocean
A Burgundy Supports A Munich - Switzerland
F English Channel Supports F Brest - Mid-Atlantic Ocean
F Gulf of Lyon Supports F Tunis - Tyrrhenian Sea
A Holland - Kiel (*Bounce*)
F Irish Sea Supports F Brest - Mid-Atlantic Ocean
A Kiel - Munich (*Fails*)
A Munich - Switzerland (*Fails*)
F Tunis - Tyrrhenian Sea

Holy_Roman_Empire:
A Berlin - Kiel (*Bounce*)

Russia:
F Ankara Hold
A Armenia - Sevastopol
F Black Sea - Rumania (*Bounce*)
A Sevastopol - Moscow
A Sweden - Finland
A Ukraine Supports A Warsaw (*Cut*)
A Warsaw Hold (*Dislodged*)

Spain:
F Marseilles Hold
F Mid-Atlantic Ocean Hold (*Dislodged*)
F North Africa - Tunis
F Spain(sc) Supports F Marseilles

Ottoman_Emprire:
A Bulgaria Supports A Constantinople
A Constantinople Supports F Smyrna
F Smyrna Supports A Constantinople

Venice:
A Budapest Supports A Serbia - Rumania (*Fails*)
A Galicia - Warsaw
F Ionian Sea Supports F North Africa - Tunis
A Livonia - St Petersburg
F Rome - Tyrrhenian Sea (*Fails*)
A Rumania - Ukraine (*Fails*)
A Serbia - Rumania (*Bounce*)
A Silesia Supports A Galicia - Warsaw
A Switzerland - Munich (*Fails*)
A Tyrolia Supports A Switzerland - Munich
F Tyrrhenian Sea - Western Mediterranean


Final Unit Positions: (SCs/Units)

England: (9/9)
Armies - Bur, Hol, Kie, Mun
Fleets - Eng, Iri, Lyo, MAO, Tys

France: ELIMINATED 1457

Holy Roman Empire: (1/1)
Armies - Ber

Russia: (7/7)
Armies - Fin, Mos, Sev, Ukr, War (dislodged)
Fleets - Ank, Bla

Spain: (4/4)
Fleets - Mar, Spa(sc), Tun, MAO (dislodged)

Ottoman Empire: (3/3)
Armies - Bul, Con
Fleets - Smy

Venice: (11/11)
Armies - Bud, Rum, Ser, Sil, StP, Swi, Trl, War
Fleets - Ion, Rom, Wes


Thanks for playing, everyone! I hope to see you all again sooner or later. SHAMELESS PLUG: I'm currently recruiting for a Machiavelli game. See re003 on the DC Open Games page.


Map and RP file are attached for your convenience, enjoy!

Thanks all,
The White Wolf

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http://www.fanfiction.net/u/1369632/

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DC-244 Fall 1459 Adjudication - GAME OVER! (dc244) camorse22 Aug 19, 07:27 pm
Wow! That's a surprise! I was sure Mike was going to keep going and eventually wear us down. I was just on the verge of trying to make peace with Russia. No, really. I mean it. Wink

Good game to all! Equal thanks to Wolf, our estimable host; Jason, Sam and Mike, who stuck it out from the beginning; and our subs Rodrigo and Brutus for ably filling in so we could finish the game.

Chris


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To: Sam Buck <Sam_Buck_Productions(at)Mac.com>; Kevin Burt <Brutus(at)wbhsi.net>; Andrew dAdesky <andrewdadesky(at)hotmail.com>; DC244 Forum <dc244(at)diplomaticcorp.com>; Mike Hoffman <mrh(at)panix.com>; Andrew Jameson <cloudhurler77(at)yahoo.com>; Jason K <githraine(at)yahoo.com>; Chris Morse <camorse22(at)yahoo.com>; Rodrigo Yanez <rpyanez(at)gmail.com>
Sent: Wednesday, August 19, 2009 7:03:44 PM
Subject: DC-244 Fall 1459 Adjudication - GAME OVER!

Folks,
That's right - the game is over. Every remaining player voted in favor of the DIAS. Congratulations to Mike, Sam, Jason, Rodrigo, Kevin and Chris. Special thanks to Sam, who gamely held on with only one unit for four game years. Also, thanks to Andrew for sticking with it until he was eliminated.
End of Game statements will be appreciated - feel free to send them to everyone, or you can send them to me and I will forward them out.

Players:

England: Mike Hoffman mrh(at)panix.com
France: Andrew d'Adesky andrewdadesky(at)hotmail.com
Holy Roman Empire: Sam Buck Sam_Buck_Productions(at)Mac.com
Russia: Jason K Githraine(at)yahoo.com
Spain: Rodrigo Yanez rpyanez(at)gmail.com
Ottoman Empire: Kevin Burt Brutus(at)wbhsi.net
Venice: Chris Morse camorse22(at)yahoo.com


Final Orders:

England:
F Brest - Mid-Atlantic Ocean
A Burgundy Supports A Munich - Switzerland
F English Channel Supports F Brest - Mid-Atlantic Ocean
F Gulf of Lyon Supports F Tunis - Tyrrhenian Sea
A Holland - Kiel (*Bounce*)
F Irish Sea Supports F Brest - Mid-Atlantic Ocean
A Kiel - Munich (*Fails*)
A Munich - Switzerland (*Fails*)
F Tunis - Tyrrhenian Sea

Holy_Roman_Empire:
A Berlin - Kiel (*Bounce*)

Russia:
F Ankara Hold
A Armenia - Sevastopol
F Black Sea - Rumania (*Bounce*)
A Sevastopol - Moscow
A Sweden - Finland
A Ukraine Supports A Warsaw (*Cut*)
A Warsaw Hold (*Dislodged*)

Spain:
F Marseilles Hold
F Mid-Atlantic Ocean Hold (*Dislodged*)
F North Africa - Tunis
F Spain(sc) Supports F Marseilles

Ottoman_Emprire:
A Bulgaria Supports A Constantinople
A Constantinople Supports F Smyrna
F Smyrna Supports A Constantinople

Venice:
A Budapest Supports A Serbia - Rumania (*Fails*)
A Galicia - Warsaw
F Ionian Sea Supports F North Africa - Tunis
A Livonia - St Petersburg
F Rome - Tyrrhenian Sea (*Fails*)
A Rumania - Ukraine (*Fails*)
A Serbia - Rumania (*Bounce*)
A Silesia Supports A Galicia - Warsaw
A Switzerland - Munich (*Fails*)
A Tyrolia Supports A Switzerland - Munich
F Tyrrhenian Sea - Western Mediterranean


Final Unit Positions: (SCs/Units)

England: (9/9)
Armies - Bur, Hol, Kie, Mun
Fleets - Eng, Iri, Lyo, MAO, Tys

France: ELIMINATED 1457

Holy Roman Empire: (1/1)
Armies - Ber

Russia: (7/7)
Armies - Fin, Mos, Sev, Ukr, War (dislodged)
Fleets - Ank, Bla

Spain: (4/4)
Fleets - Mar, Spa(sc), Tun, MAO (dislodged)

Ottoman Empire: (3/3)
Armies - Bul, Con
Fleets - Smy

Venice: (11/11)
Armies - Bud, Rum, Ser, Sil, StP, Swi, Trl, War
Fleets - Ion, Rom, Wes


Thanks for playing, everyone! I hope to see you all again sooner or later. SHAMELESS PLUG: I'm currently recruiting for a Machiavelli game. See re003 on the DC Open Games page.


Map and RP file are attached for your convenience, enjoy!

Thanks all,
The White Wolf

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DC-244 Fall 1459 Adjudication - GAME OVER! (dc244) offdisc Aug 19, 10:22 pm
Given different circumstances, I would have voted No.  I'm going crazy at work and finding it a little tough to keep 3 game strategies running in my mind.  That being said, I can't believe that everyone else also voted Yes.  Only *1* Elimination???  We should have just declared peace at the start.

Overall, this was a fun game and made me realize how much diplomacy can really sway opinions.  Jason and I played a great alliance, and we faced some very tough competition in Venice and Turkey.  Very well played in the board center!

Finally, Congrats to the only winner of our little game:  Rodrigo, who goes home with a new baby!

Mike---------
"Shared Pain is lessened, Shared Joy is increased" --- Spider Robinson
"Whenever some act of wondrous power must be performed, Michael is sent" --- Pope Saint Gregory the Great


On Wed, Aug 19, 2009 at 6:27 PM, C Morse <camorse22(at)yahoo.com ([email]camorse22(at)yahoo.com[/email])> wrote:

Wow!  That's a surprise!  I was sure Mike was going to keep going and eventually wear us down.  I was just on the verge of trying to make peace with Russia.  No, really.  I mean it.  Wink

Good game to all!  Equal thanks to Wolf, our estimable host; Jason, Sam and Mike, who stuck it out from the beginning; and our subs Rodrigo and Brutus for ably filling in so we could finish the game.

Chris







DC-244 Fall 1459 Adjudication - GAME OVER! (dc244) Githraine Aug 20, 09:14 am
Thanks to all, more when I get back from Maine and have better then a 2Mbps connection!


From: Sam Buck <sam_buck_productions(at)me.com>
To: The White Wolf <cloudhurler77(at)yahoo.com>
Cc: Kevin Burt <Brutus(at)wbhsi.net>; Andrew dAdesky <andrewdadesky(at)hotmail.com>; DC244 Forum <dc244(at)diplomaticcorp.com>; Mike Hoffman <mrh(at)panix.com>; Jason K <githraine(at)yahoo.com>; Chris Morse <camorse22(at)yahoo.com>; Rodrigo Yanez <rpyanez(at)gmail.com>
Sent: Thursday, August 20, 2009 1:22:28 AM
Subject: Re: DC-244 Fall 1459 Adjudication - GAME OVER!

Wow, I really did not expect this to end so quickly, although I am rather happy I get a Draw instead of an elimination. Thanks to everyone who played in this. I had a great time. Thanks especially to Chris (Venice), for even after crippling me, letting me survive on one center for as long as I did. Another big thank you too Wolf, who was completely fair but also completely understanding throughout the whole thing. Again, well played by all, and I hope we meet again.

Farewell
-Sam Buck
Holy Roman Emperor.
DC-244 Fall 1459 Adjudication - GAME OVER! (dc244) sam_buck_productions a... Aug 20, 12:23 am
Wow, I really did not expect this to end so quickly, although I am
rather happy I get a Draw instead of an elimination. Thanks to
everyone who played in this. I had a great time. Thanks especially to
Chris (Venice), for even after crippling me, letting me survive on one
center for as long as I did. Another big thank you too Wolf, who was
completely fair but also completely understanding throughout the whole
thing. Again, well played by all, and I hope we meet again.

Farewell
-Sam Buck
Holy Roman Emperor.
dc252 f07 results! - FuzzyLogic   (Aug 19, 2009, 2:09 pm)
Today's adjudication comes to you from the City of Brotherly Love, and it's fitting too as Carthage seems to share the love all over this round, helping both Rome and Egypt to centers. I'm sure there was some love in there for Greece too, but he's eliminated so we'll leave the analysis to the pros.

NEXT: Builds, due Friday 8/21, 6pm Central / 2300 GMT:

Rome: Build 1
Persia: Build 2
Greece: Remove F ADR
Egypt: Remove 1

There was one retreat but Egyptian F GOP could only go to Thebes so I just moved it there.
Note I dont have a graphic editor where I'm at, so y'all can open the .dpy and save one yourself this time.

Enjoy!
-mike

Rome:
A Rhaetia - Massilia
F Roma - Neapolis
A Venetia - Ravenna (*Bounce*)

Carthage:
F Ausonian Sea Convoys A Sicilia - Epirus
A Cyrene Supports A Alexandria
F Ionian Sea Convoys A Sicilia - Epirus
F Libyan Sea - Egyptian Sea (*Fails*)
F Ligurian Sea Supports A Rhaetia - Massilia
A Mauretania - Saguntum
F Messenian Sea Hold
F Punic Sea - Gulf of Tacape
A Sicilia - Epirus (*Fails*)
A Thebes - Memphis
F Tyrrhenean Sea Supports F Ligurian Sea

Persia:
F Aegean Sea Supports F Sparta
A Arabia Supports A Jerusalem
F Cilician Strait - Egyptian Sea
F Crete Supports F Cilician Strait - Egyptian Sea
A Dalmatia Hold
F Egyptian Sea - Gulf of Pelusium
A Epirus Supports A Dalmatia (*Cut*)
A Illyria - Vindobona
A Jerusalem Hold
A Massilia - Etruria
F Minoan Sea Supports F Crete
F Sparta Hold
F Syrian Sea Supports F Egyptian Sea - Gulf of Pelusium
A Tyre Supports A Jerusalem

Greece:
F Adriatic Sea - Ravenna (*Bounce*)

Egypt:
A Alexandria Hold
F Gulf of Pelusium Supports F Libyan Sea - Egyptian Sea (*Dislodged*)
A Petra Supports A Sinai - Jerusalem
A Sinai - Jerusalem (*Fails*)

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Spring 1902 - m_don_j   (Aug 19, 2009, 1:58 pm)
Gents,

A Little input from your observer/resource; As soon as you get teh adjudication for a turn, send in prelim orders. That way you won't suffer any Nmr's (usually), and it's a big help for any GM. Just putting that out there.

/ Mikael

Date: Wed, 19 Aug 2009 09:52:31 -0700
From: mvpenner(at)yahoo.com
Subject: Spring 1902
To: AandTStevens(at)GMail.com; applepower(at)rocketmail.com; buckhamil(at)yahoo.com; davidzil(at)lycos.com; dc269(at)diplomaticcorp.com; ericklindsay(at)gmail.com; fred.p.villalobos(at)gmail.com; m_don_j(at)hotmail.com; Starwars_ratty(at)yahoo.com

Hey there guys... so, the deadline for spring moves comes in 10 minutes and I have a grand total of one set... and that doesn't include the players who asked me to speed up the game. I don't think five days is particularly quick, but if you don't have a chance in those five days to do a little email diplomacy, it's possible to ask for an extention. Now, I guess I'll be granting everyone the extention here because just about all of you need it. So, we'll try for the same time tomorrow. Unfortunately, I won't have a chance to adjudicate until pretty late in the evening tomorrow and even that isn't a guarantee, but please try to get your moves in by noon CDT tomorrow.

mvp

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DC261 - Spring 1904 Results - aramis604   (Aug 19, 2009, 1:32 pm)
Here are the results for Spring 1904. As always please make sure I didn't misread or misenter one of your orders.

-------------------------
One retreat need.
Turkish F Constantinople can retreat to Ankara.

Please have this to me by tomorrow August 20th by 9pm pacific time.
-------------------------
Austria:
A Bohemia - Galicia
F Bulgaria(sc) - Constantinople
A Serbia - Bulgaria
A Silesia Supports A Bohemia - Galicia
A Vienna - Budapest

England:
F Barents Sea Supports A Norway - St Petersburg
F London Supports F North Sea
A Norway - St Petersburg
A Yorkshire - Holland

France:
F Belgium Supports F Skagerrak - North Sea
A Brest - Gascony
F English Channel Supports F Skagerrak - North Sea
A Marseilles - Burgundy (*Fails*)
A Paris Supports A Marseilles - Burgundy
F Picardy Supports F Belgium

Germany:
A Burgundy Supports A Munich (*Cut*)
F Denmark Supports F North Sea
A Munich Supports A Burgundy
F North Sea Convoys A Yorkshire - Holland
A Ruhr Supports A Burgundy
A Sweden Hold

Italy:
F Aegean Sea Supports F Bulgaria(sc) - Constantinople
F Greece Supports A Serbia - Bulgaria
F Naples - Ionian Sea
A Syria - Smyrna (*Fails*)
A Tyrolia Supports A Bohemia - Munich (*Void*)

Russia:
F Rumania - Black Sea (*Fails*)
A Sevastopol - Armenia
F Skagerrak - North Sea (*Fails*)
F St Petersburg(nc) Hold (*Disbanded*)
A Warsaw - Ukraine

Turkey:
F Black Sea Supports F Constantinople (*Cut*)
F Constantinople Hold (*Dislodged*)
A Smyrna Hold

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1648 090623: Spring 1652 Moves - leroy43   (Aug 19, 2009, 12:01 pm)
Hello fellow 1648 diplomats...

I shall be away on vacation starting tomorrow and not back until August the 28th. If Charles can find a substitute or proxy for me, that is great, but otherwise I'll be at all of your collective mercies (or lack thereof).

Cheers,

Roger (Polish King)

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Spring 1902 - Viper   (Aug 19, 2009, 11:52 am)
Hey there guys... so, the deadline for spring moves comes in 10 minutes and I have a grand total of one set... and that doesn't include the players who asked me to speed up the game. I don't think five days is particularly quick, but if you don't have a chance in those five days to do a little email diplomacy, it's possible to ask for an extention. Now, I guess I'll be granting everyone the extention here because just about all of you need it. So, we'll try for the same time tomorrow. Unfortunately, I won't have a chance to adjudicate until pretty late in the evening tomorrow and even that isn't a guarantee, but please try to get your moves in by noon CDT tomorrow.

mvp

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Spring 1902 (dc269) m_don_j Aug 19, 01:58 pm
Gents,

A Little input from your observer/resource; As soon as you get teh adjudication for a turn, send in prelim orders. That way you won't suffer any Nmr's (usually), and it's a big help for any GM. Just putting that out there.

/ Mikael

Date: Wed, 19 Aug 2009 09:52:31 -0700
From: mvpenner(at)yahoo.com
Subject: Spring 1902
To: AandTStevens(at)GMail.com; applepower(at)rocketmail.com; buckhamil(at)yahoo.com; davidzil(at)lycos.com; dc269(at)diplomaticcorp.com; ericklindsay(at)gmail.com; fred.p.villalobos(at)gmail.com; m_don_j(at)hotmail.com; Starwars_ratty(at)yahoo.com

Hey there guys... so, the deadline for spring moves comes in 10 minutes and I have a grand total of one set... and that doesn't include the players who asked me to speed up the game. I don't think five days is particularly quick, but if you don't have a chance in those five days to do a little email diplomacy, it's possible to ask for an extention. Now, I guess I'll be granting everyone the extention here because just about all of you need it. So, we'll try for the same time tomorrow. Unfortunately, I won't have a chance to adjudicate until pretty late in the evening tomorrow and even that isn't a guarantee, but please try to get your moves in by noon CDT tomorrow.

mvp

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Spring 1902 (dc269) FLTeacher Aug 19, 08:14 pm
I am one of the NMRed players. Sry. I think 5 days is still WAY TOO LONG and no one keeps up on the communication because they say, "I have 5 days to play this turn -- I will check on it tomorrow." And we all know that because of the lack of urgency tomorrow never comes.

Anyway, I am sending in my moves pronto ...

On Wed, Aug 19, 2009 at 2:58 PM, Mikael Johansson <m_don_j(at)hotmail.com ([email]m_don_j(at)hotmail.com[/email])> wrote:

Gents,

A Little input from your observer/resource; As soon as you get teh adjudication for a turn, send in prelim orders. That way you won't suffer any Nmr's (usually), and it's a big help for any GM. Just putting that out there.

/ Mikael

Date: Wed, 19 Aug 2009 09:52:31 -0700
From: mvpenner(at)yahoo.com ([email]mvpenner(at)yahoo.com[/email])
Subject: Spring 1902
To: AandTStevens(at)GMail.com; applepower(at)rocketmail.com ([email]applepower(at)rocketmail.com[/email]); buckhamil(at)yahoo.com ([email]buckhamil(at)yahoo.com[/email]); davidzil(at)lycos.com ([email]davidzil(at)lycos.com[/email]); dc269(at)diplomaticcorp.com ([email]dc269(at)diplomaticcorp.com[/email]); ericklindsay(at)gmail.com ([email]ericklindsay(at)gmail.com[/email]); fred.p.villalobos(at)gmail.com ([email]fred.p.villalobos(at)gmail.com[/email]); m_don_j(at)hotmail.com ([email]m_don_j(at)hotmail.com[/email]); Starwars_ratty(at)yahoo.com ([email]Starwars_ratty(at)yahoo.com[/email])

Hey there guys... so, the deadline for spring moves comes in 10 minutes and I have a grand total of one set... and that doesn't include the players who asked me to speed up the game.  I don't think five days is particularly quick, but if you don't have a chance in those five days to do a little email diplomacy, it's possible to ask for an extention.  Now, I guess I'll be granting everyone the extention here because just about all of you need it.  So, we'll try for the same time tomorrow.  Unfortunately, I won't have a chance to adjudicate until pretty late in the evening tomorrow and even that isn't a guarantee, but please try to get your moves in by noon CDT tomorrow.

mvp



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dc268 Spring '81 - notasb   (Aug 19, 2009, 11:47 am)
Name Reference Map:

http://home.comcast.net/~dawench/reference.gif

Home Center Map:

http://home.comcast.net/~dawench/home.gif

Movement:

http://www.geocities.com/dawench2/26881SpringM.gif

Final Map:

http://www.geocities.com/dawench2/26881Spring.gif

Deadline:

Retreat is due Thursday August 21 at 9 AM CDST (GMT -5) 1400 GMT

Orders and Results:

Argentina:
F BAI Supports F SWA - WAO
A MEN - SAO (*Fails*)
F PER - COL(sc)
F SWA - WAO

Brazil:
A AMA - PER
F REC - WAO (*Fails*)
A SAO - MEN (*Fails*)
F VEN Hold

China:
A BEI - HEI
F GUA - SCS
A LAN - IMO (*Bounce*)
A VLA - YAK
F YSE Supports F GUA - SCS (*Cut*)

Europe:
F FRA(nc) - NEA
F GBR - NWG
F GER - NTH
A ITA - AHU
F SPA - WMED
A UKR Hold (*Dislodged*)

Frozen-Antarctica:
F BAT(ec) - SAN
F LEN Supports F SWP
A SOP - NDE
F SWP Supports F LEN (*Cut*)

Ghana:
A ALG Hold
F CON Supports F GHA - EAO
F GHA - EAO
F GUI - MAU
A MAL - GHA
A MOR Hold

India:
A BAN - CLC
F BOB - THA
F BOM Supports F CLC - BOB
A BUR Supports F BOB - THA
F CLC - BOB

Kenya:
F TAN - KEN (*Fails*)
A UGA - SSU
A ZAI Supports A UGA - SSU
A ZAM - ZIM (*Fails*)

Libya:
A CHA - SSU (*Fails*)
F EGY - EMED
A ETH Supports A KEN
A KEN Supports A CHA - SSU (*Cut*)
F LIB Supports F EGY - EMED
F NSU - EGY

Mideast:
A AFG - WCH
A ARM - IRN
F IRN - ASE
F IRQ - SAR(sc)
A SAR - SYR
F TUR - BAL(sc)

Oz:
F IND Hold
F NEI - SEI
F TSE - NZE
F VIC - SWP (*Fails*)

Pacific-Russia:
A MON - IMO (*Bounce*)
F SOJ - YSE (*Fails*)

Quebec:
F GOD - LSE
F MAN Hold
F NEW - HBA
A ONT - MID (*Bounce*)
A QBC - UNI

Russia:
A BEL Supports A MOS - UKR
A ESI - IRK
A MOS - UKR
A SCA - STP
A STP - WSI

South-Africa:
A BOT - ZIM
F MAD - MCH
A MOZ Supports A BOT - ZIM
A NAM Supports A BOT - ZIM
A SAF Supports A MOZ

Usa:
F CIS - GOM
F CAL - NPO (*Bounce*)
F HAW Supports F CAL - NPO
A NEV - MID (*Bounce*)
A TEX - NEV (*Fails*)

Western-Canada:
F ALA Supports F YTE(sc) - NPO
A BCO Supports A ITE
A ITE Hold
A NWT Hold
F YTE(sc) - NPO (*Bounce*)

Retreats:

European A UKR can retreat to POL or OTB

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DC254, Winter 1905 - alwayshunted   (Aug 19, 2009, 9:08 am)
Hi Folks,

I'm taking this opportunity to run the winter turn since I have orders from both parties, and tonight is a bit unpredictable for me. Here it is......


----------------
Austria:
Build A Trieste
Germany:
Build A Munich


DEADLINE: In one week, Wednesday, August 26, 17:00 MDT.
------------------

Maps are attached. See you next week.

Warren

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DC 268 Russia moves Spring - chaosonejoe   (Aug 19, 2009, 7:02 am)
a esi - irk
a sca - stp
a stp - wsi
a bel s a mos - ukr
a mos - ukr

Thanks,
Joe

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DC270: Winter Deadline (correction) - dipknight   (Aug 19, 2009, 1:02 am)
All,
 
My apologies, but occasionally, when you try to "shorten" a deadline, there are those that went away with the original deadline in mind and do not come back until that deadline is due.
 
There are two outstanding sets of orders and I have sent the countries that I am missing orders from personal requests for orders.  So, I will post the Build/Disband Orders as soon as I receive builds those builds.  Or . . . I will begin looking for replacements shortly after the original deadline of Monday, August 24, 2009, 24:00 hrs GMT.
 
Best of Luck,
       Darryl (GM)


On Sat, Aug 15, 2009 at 5:06 PM, Darryl Good <dipknight(at)gmail.com ([email]dipknight(at)gmail.com[/email])> wrote:

All,
 
I have received new build orders from Austria; seems  Dan isn't as isolated as he assumed he would be.
 
I do not want to assume everyone is getting these messages over the weekend.  Still, I already have the majority of your Build orders.  Therefore, I would like to change the Deadline for the Winter Builds to Tuesday (8/1Cool by 24:00 pm GMT.  If anyone has a problem with this please let me know.
 
Thanks,
     Darryl (GM)

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dc265 ~ European Onion - sgttodd   (Aug 18, 2009, 10:49 pm)
For those that missed it:

Deadline for Fall 1903 orders is: Wednesday, August 19; 2359 UTC

Retreat orders for Spring of 1903. (dc265)

Austria: A Serbia - Albania.
England: F Norwegian Sea - North Atlantic Ocean.

Unit locations:

Austria: A Albania, A Vienna.
England: A Edinburgh, F English Channel, F North Atlantic Ocean.
France: A Brest, A Marseilles, A Piedmont, F Tunis, F Western
Mediterranean.
Germany: A Belgium, A Denmark, F Holland, A Kiel, A Munich, F North Sea.
Italy: F Gulf of Lyon, A Rome, A Trieste, A Tyrolia, F Tyrrhenian Sea.
Russia: A Budapest, A Galicia, F Norway, F Norwegian Sea, A Rumania, F
Sevastopol, A Sweden, A Warsaw.
Turkey: F Aegean Sea, A Bulgaria, A Greece, F Ionian Sea, A Serbia.

Deadline for Fall 1903 orders is: Wednesday, August 19; 2359 UTC
files: http://mainecav.org/diplomacy

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dc267 deadline tomorrow - MattTheLesser   (Aug 18, 2009, 10:40 pm)
You know the drill, gents. I have confirmed all orders I have received.

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dc263 ~ Babylon 5 - sgttodd   (Aug 18, 2009, 10:03 pm)
This is a correction. The Shadow player DID send in orders and I acknowledged them, but I guess my senior moments are coming on early - ie: I screwed up.
That means there was one NMR and I would have given that player another shot, but everyone's orders had been posted already.

Deadline for retreats is Thursday, August 20 at 2359 UTC

The following units were dislodged:

Shadow F Rim Space can retreat to Z Ha Dum or Sector 86 or Quadrant 72 or Quadrant 45.
Shadow F Ceti 4 can retreat to Caliban Sector.

Minbari F Quadrant 48 can retreat to Malax or Sector 67 or Sector 27 or Sector 92 or Dura 7.

Unit locations:

Earth: F Aris Colony, A Beta Durani, F Grid Epsilon, F Ipsha, A Janos 7, F Quadrant 31, F Quadrant 32, F Quadrant 54, F Quadrant 55, F Sector 01, F Sector 02, F Sector 09, F Sector 21.
Minbari: F Minbari Inisr Realm, F Minbari Outer Realm, F Coriana 6, F Enfili, A Gaim, F L Gn Daort, F Mirata 7, F Quadrant 48, F Sector 11, F Sector 35, F Ventari 3.
Centauri: F Outer Centauri space, F Akdor, F Antares Sector, F Ceti 4, A Gorash 7, F Markab, F Pakmara, F Quadrant 13, F Quadrant 14, F Sector 51, F Sector 81.
Narn: F Dross, F Narn Outer Space, F Drakh, A L Gidor, F Lukantha, F Sector 88, F Shi.
Shadow: F Outer Rim, F Kepti, F Rim Space, F Ceti 4, F Quadrant 73, F Zafran 7.
Drazi: F Drazi, F Zagro 7, F Outer Drazu, F Dilgar, F Quadrant 31, F Sector 17, F Sector 38, F Theta 49, A Tokati, F Vree.
Vorlon: F Rim Space, F Virana, F Volron Outer Space, F Ikarra 7, A Lorka 7, F Nether Rim, F Quadrant 48, F Quadrant 68, F Quadrant 90.

Movement results for Spring of 2264.

Earth: F Babylon 5 - Sector 09.
Earth: F Earth - Sector 01.
Earth: F Mars - Sector 02.
Earth: F Titan - Grid Epsilon.
Earth: F Aris Colony - Ipsha.
Earth: A Beta Durani Hold.
Earth: A Janos 7 Hold.
Earth: F Proxima 3 - Quadrant 54.
Earth: F Quadrant 32 Supports F Regula 4 - Quadrant 31.
Earth: F Quadrant 54 - Aris Colony.
Earth: F Quadrant 55 Supports F Aris Colony - Ipsha.
Earth: F Regula 4 - Quadrant 31.
Earth: F Sector 09 - Sector 21.

Minbari: F Minbar - Minbari Outer Realm.
Minbari: F Chudomo - Minbari Inisr Realm.
Minbari: F Norsai - Sector 35.
Minbari: F Brakiri - Sector 11.
Minbari: A Gaim Hold.
Minbari: F Latig 4 - Enfili.
Minbari: F L Gn Daort Supports F Quadrant 48.
Minbari: F Mirata 7 - Lorka 7 (*Fails*).
Minbari: F Quadrant 48 Supports F Sector 92 - Coriana 6 (*Dislodged*).
Minbari: F Sector 92 - Coriana 6.
Minbari: F Tizino Prime - Ventari 3.

Centauri: F Centauri Prime - Outer Centauri space.
Centauri: F Brakesh 9 - Sector 81.
Centauri: F Davo - Sector 51.
Centauri: F Outer Centauri space - Akdor.
Centauri: F Antares Sector - Quadrant 13.
Centauri: A Gorash 7, no move received.
Centauri: F Markab Supports F Vree.
Centauri: F Ragesh 3 - Quadrant 14.
Centauri: F Sector 14 - Antares Sector.
Centauri: F Shi - Ceti 4.
Centauri: F Yolu - Pakmara.

Narn: F Narn - Narn Outer Space.
Narn: F Dross Supports F Antares Sector - Quadrant 13.
Narn: F Narn Outer Space - Shi.
Narn: F Drakh - Quadrant 73 (*Fails*).
Narn: A L Gidor Hold.
Narn: F Lukantha Supports F Shi - Ceti 4.
Narn: F Sector 88 Supports F Narn Outer Space - Shi.

Shadow: F Z Ha Dum - Outer Rim.
Shadow: F Kepti Hold.
Shadow: F Rim Space Supports F Quadrant 73 - Drakh (*Dislodged*).
Shadow: F Ceti 4, no move received (*Dislodged*).
Shadow: F Quadrant 73 - Drakh (*Fails*).
Shadow: F Zafran 7 Supports F Rim Space (*Cut*).

Drazi: F Drazi, no move received.
Drazi: F Zagro 7, no move received.
Drazi: F Outer Drazu, no move received.
Drazi: F Dilgar, no move received.
Drazi: F Quadrant 31, no move received (*Disbanded*).
Drazi: F Sector 17, no move received.
Drazi: F Sector 38, no move received.
Drazi: F Theta 49, no move received.
Drazi: A Tokati, no move received.
Drazi: F Vree, no move received.

Vorlon: F Vorlon - Volron Outer Space.
Vorlon: F Berdina - Quadrant 68.
Vorlon: F Virana Supports F Volron Outer Space - Quadrant 48.
Vorlon: F Volron Outer Space - Quadrant 48.
Vorlon: F Ikarra 7 Supports F Ralga - Rim Space.
Vorlon: A Lorka 7 - Mirata 7 (*Fails*).
Vorlon: F Nether Rim - Zafran 7 (*Fails*).
Vorlon: F Quadrant 90 Supports F Volron Outer Space - Quadrant 48.
Vorlon: F Ralga - Rim Space.

Deadline for retreats is Thursday, August 20 at 2359 UTC
files: http://mainecav.org/diplomacy

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DC254, Autumn 1905 - alwayshunted   (Aug 18, 2009, 8:37 pm)
Hey all,

Here is autumn:

Germany retreats to Tyrolia.

There are two builds due. One from Austria and one from Germany. I hope to get this out tomorrow evening, but I'll give at least 24 hours from now. Soooo.... Wednesday, August 19, 20:00 for build orders.

STATUS AND ADJUSTMENTS:

Ownership:
Austria: Budapest, Serbia, Trieste, Vienna.
England: Belgium, Brest, Edinburgh, Liverpool, London, Paris,
St Petersburg, Sweden.
France: Spain.
Germany: Berlin, Denmark, Holland, Kiel, Marseilles, Munich,
Norway, Warsaw.
Italy: Naples, Portugal, Rome, Tunis, Venice.
Turkey: Ankara, Bulgaria, Constantinople, Greece, Moscow,
Rumania, Sevastopol, Smyrna.
Adjustments:
Austria: Supp 4 Unit 3 Build 1
England: Supp 8 Unit 8 Build 0
France: Supp 1 Unit 1 Build 0
Germany: Supp 8 Unit 7 Build 1
Italy: Supp 5 Unit 5 Build 0
Russia: Supp 0 Unit 0 Build 0
Turkey: Supp 8 Unit 8 Build 0
-----------------------

Maps are attached. Have fun.

Warren

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Dc 225: End Game - Make Love; Not War [a GM's EoG] - AlanRFarrington   (Aug 18, 2009, 6:44 pm)
Its been 11 years since the continent of Europe was plunged into war, but finally the seven sinners of Europe have become the four sinners and decided to put away their guns and agreed to end the war.

A Four way Draw between Sultan Michael Holm [8 centers], Michael Stroz in Italy [9 centers], Kaiser Jyri Syrja in Germany [3 centers], and Her Majesty the Queen Mark Utterback [14 centers].

I'm sure everyoen would enjoy reading end of game statements from all the different players (past and present). Feel free to group email them to everyone or send them to me and I will forward them along. As for the GM I have just a few words that I would like to relay about the makeup of this game.

First of all I would like to thank Michael Stroz for stepping up and leading italy. He was the third leader to command those pesky Green units and did a magnificent job. I'd also like to thank Rachael Jameson, Santiago Villamayor, and Anthony Stevens for keeping with their declining positions even though the outcome was bleak. Its people like you that I can count on. Thanks!

I have two points to make about the game: First I think Italy did a great job getting a leg up on Mark in what is usually a complete stalemate line. I'm unsure how it would have worked out if the game had continued. Also, I've been waiting for the Turk to stab Italy since Fall 1909! If a stab wasn't coming why was that army parked in Serbia for so long? Turkey did the "right" thing, if he had stabbed I believe Mark would have won the solo and Holm would have lost his share in the draw, but the temptation to improve your position must have been immense.

Lastly I would like to make a shout out to Andy [The White Wolf] who was there to answer my question and coach me through my fist GM experience whenever I needed him.

If any of you are still reading I hope to see you in either the next game I play [South American Supremacy] , or the next game I GM [hopefully a Modern Variant]

Thank you all,
Alan Farrington
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Dc 225: End Game - Make Love; Not War [a GM's EoG] (dc225) MDemagogue Aug 19, 09:01 pm
I'll get the ball rolling with my EOG. 

First, I'd like to extend a thank you to Alan for running an excellent game. I'll be looking for that modern variant to pop up on the website, or any other game that you feel like running. 

In my initial communication with France and Germany, a western triple was proposed which didn't get off the ground due to mistrust between France and Germany, coupled by Germany opting to not order F Kie to Den to attempt to deny Sweden to Russia.  Instead, in fall of 1901, Germany offered me a free hand in the north against Russia by ceding Denmark to me, in exchange for cooperation against France.  There wasn't really much out there that could have beat that offer so I accepted, and that dictated my strategy in the first half of the game. 

In general, there wasn't a lot of communication between the triangles on the board in the first half of the game, at least on my end.  That was partly my fault, as I was concerned with hashing things out in my own triangle, and there was a lot of problems early with the aborted western triple and my attempts to figure out where I should end up allying myself.  I never received anything from Russia, and only an introductory email from Turkey.

I think this lack of communication enabled France to stay in the game by enlisting some assistance from the first two Italian leaders to defend against my fleets, which enabled him to stick around for quite awhile.  Mr. Stroz, on the other hand, saw a quick gain from allying with Jyri and myself against France and that ensured his demise. 

Around 1906 I figured that I would have to be lucky to get a solo, and I think this was proven correct by the moves subsequent to that year.  In 1906 (or was it 1905) Santiago had a fleet in the adriatic and an army in trieste.  Had he moved on his Italian ally at that point, I daresay I would have soloed because I would have broken into the med.  After that year, Michael was in a good position to ally with Sultan Michael and they took Austria down.  They were ably assisted by the decision to retreat three armies otb during a spring retreat phase. .. I still don't know what the decision calculus was there.

Anyhoo, the only mistake I made I made on account of an email stating that the adjudication was in 8 minutes, when it was actually due tomorrow.  I submitted orders on the spur of the moment and Alan adjudicated on the spur of having all the orders in.  It wouldn't have affected things because I still had 4 fleets to blockade the mid atlantic and sufficient units to defend the home island. 

That's pretty much all that I have, and it's been a pleasure playing with you all.

On Tue, Aug 18, 2009 at 6:44 PM, Alan Farrington <alley_cat_1990(at)hotmail.com ([email]alley_cat_1990(at)hotmail.com[/email])> wrote:

Its been 11 years since the continent of Europe was plunged into war, but finally the seven sinners of Europe have become the four sinners and decided to put away their guns and agreed to end the war.

A Four way Draw between Sultan Michael Holm [8 centers], Michael Stroz  in Italy [9 centers], Kaiser Jyri Syrja in Germany [3 centers], and Her Majesty the Queen Mark Utterback [14 centers].

I'm sure everyoen would enjoy reading end of game statements from all the different players (past and present).  Feel free to group email them to everyone or send them to me and I will forward them along.  As for the GM I have just a few words that I would like to relay about the makeup of this game.

First of all I would like to thank Michael Stroz for stepping up and leading italy.  He was the third leader to command those pesky Green units and did a magnificent job.  I'd also like to thank Rachael Jameson, Santiago Villamayor, and Anthony Stevens for keeping with their declining positions even though the outcome was bleak.  Its people like you that I can count on.  Thanks!

I have two points to make about the game: First I think Italy did a great job getting a leg up on Mark in what is usually a complete stalemate line.  I'm unsure how it would have worked out if the game had continued.  Also, I've been waiting for the Turk to stab Italy since Fall 1909!  If a stab wasn't coming why was that army parked in Serbia for so long?  Turkey did the "right" thing, if he had stabbed I believe Mark would have won the solo and Holm would have lost his share in the draw, but the temptation to improve your position must have been immense.

Lastly I would  like to make a shout out to Andy [The White Wolf] who was there to answer my question and coach me through my fist GM experience whenever I needed him.

If any of you are still reading I hope to see you in either the next game I play [South American Supremacy] , or the next game I GM [hopefully a Modern Variant]

Thank you all,
Alan Farrington

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Dc 225: End Game - Make Love; Not War [a GM's EoG] (dc225) AlanRFarrington Aug 19, 09:11 pm
Mark,

I appologize if that adjudication screwed up your season. I must have truly believed the deadline was arranged for the earlier period when I adjudicated. I normally only adjudicate early if i have everyone's permission or if it is one or two retreats.

My apologies,
Alan Farrington

Date: Wed, 19 Aug 2009 21:01:17 -0500
Subject: Re: Dc 225: End Game - Make Love; Not War [a GM's EoG]
From: mdemagogue(at)gmail.com
To: alley_cat_1990(at)hotmail.com
CC: zipholm(at)hotmail.com; mistro914(at)gmail.com; verticallychallangedcutie(at)yahoo.com; svillamayor(at)mail.cl; jyjusy(at)hotmail.com; dc225(at)diplomaticcorp.com; mike(at)fuzzylogicllc.net; aandtstevens(at)gmail.com; icarusflier(at)gmail.com; mc3358a(at)student.american.edu

I'll get the ball rolling with my EOG.

First, I'd like to extend a thank you to Alan for running an excellent game. I'll be looking for that modern variant to pop up on the website, or any other game that you feel like running.

In my initial communication with France and Germany, a western triple was proposed which didn't get off the ground due to mistrust between France and Germany, coupled by Germany opting to not order F Kie to Den to attempt to deny Sweden to Russia. Instead, in fall of 1901, Germany offered me a free hand in the north against Russia by ceding Denmark to me, in exchange for cooperation against France. There wasn't really much out there that could have beat that offer so I accepted, and that dictated my strategy in the first half of the game.

In general, there wasn't a lot of communication between the triangles on the board in the first half of the game, at least on my end. That was partly my fault, as I was concerned with hashing things out in my own triangle, and there was a lot of problems early with the aborted western triple and my attempts to figure out where I should end up allying myself. I never received anything from Russia, and only an introductory email from Turkey.

I think this lack of communication enabled France to stay in the game by enlisting some assistance from the first two Italian leaders to defend against my fleets, which enabled him to stick around for quite awhile. Mr. Stroz, on the other hand, saw a quick gain from allying with Jyri and myself against France and that ensured his demise.

Around 1906 I figured that I would have to be lucky to get a solo, and I think this was proven correct by the moves subsequent to that year. In 1906 (or was it 1905) Santiago had a fleet in the adriatic and an army in trieste. Had he moved on his Italian ally at that point, I daresay I would have soloed because I would have broken into the med. After that year, Michael was in a good position to ally with Sultan Michael and they took Austria down. They were ably assisted by the decision to retreat three armies otb during a spring retreat phase. .. I still don't know what the decision calculus was there.

Anyhoo, the only mistake I made I made on account of an email stating that the adjudication was in 8 minutes, when it was actually due tomorrow. I submitted orders on the spur of the moment and Alan adjudicated on the spur of having all the orders in. It wouldn't have affected things because I still had 4 fleets to blockade the mid atlantic and sufficient units to defend the home island.

That's pretty much all that I have, and it's been a pleasure playing with you all.

On Tue, Aug 18, 2009 at 6:44 PM, Alan Farrington <alley_cat_1990(at)hotmail.com ([email]alley_cat_1990(at)hotmail.com[/email])> wrote:

Its been 11 years since the continent of Europe was plunged into war, but finally the seven sinners of Europe have become the four sinners and decided to put away their guns and agreed to end the war.

A Four way Draw between Sultan Michael Holm [8 centers], Michael Stroz in Italy [9 centers], Kaiser Jyri Syrja in Germany [3 centers], and Her Majesty the Queen Mark Utterback [14 centers].

I'm sure everyoen would enjoy reading end of game statements from all the different players (past and present). Feel free to group email them to everyone or send them to me and I will forward them along. As for the GM I have just a few words that I would like to relay about the makeup of this game.

First of all I would like to thank Michael Stroz for stepping up and leading italy. He was the third leader to command those pesky Green units and did a magnificent job. I'd also like to thank Rachael Jameson, Santiago Villamayor, and Anthony Stevens for keeping with their declining positions even though the outcome was bleak. Its people like you that I can count on. Thanks!

I have two points to make about the game: First I think Italy did a great job getting a leg up on Mark in what is usually a complete stalemate line. I'm unsure how it would have worked out if the game had continued. Also, I've been waiting for the Turk to stab Italy since Fall 1909! If a stab wasn't coming why was that army parked in Serbia for so long? Turkey did the "right" thing, if he had stabbed I believe Mark would have won the solo and Holm would have lost his share in the draw, but the temptation to improve your position must have been immense.

Lastly I would like to make a shout out to Andy [The White Wolf] who was there to answer my question and coach me through my fist GM experience whenever I needed him.

If any of you are still reading I hope to see you in either the next game I play [South American Supremacy] , or the next game I GM [hopefully a Modern Variant]

Thank you all,
Alan Farrington

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Dc 225: End Game - Make Love; Not War [a GM's EoG] (dc225) Zipholm Aug 20, 10:28 am
Turkish EoG.

Again, thanks goes to Alan for a well run game, and the rest of you for making this game fun and educational.

Just as England did in the west, I focused primarily on the Eastern part of the board in the first half of the game, but not in the way I had hoped in advance. I sent some introductions to the other countries, and I received some tips and pointers from several of the more experienced players. Thanks, that was both needed and appreciated.

As to alliances etc., I did not get anything substancial. Mails to Austria and Italy went unanswered, but I formed an alliance with Russia. But after the first year, things started to go downhill. The second ruler of Italy forged a lasting alliance with Austria and a NAP with France, which was bad news for me. Also, the Turkish-Russian alliance went downhill fast, as Russia implemented devious but strange strategies, and the Austrian-Italian alliance made great gains at a rapid pace. At this point, the only eastern country which answered my communications were Italy, who remained loyal to Austria, though. As they were doing great, I can't really blame him.

I decided to put all effort into thwarting Italy in the hope of turning him against Austria, leaving an open front to the north. With doom approaching rapidly, an Italian change of power ushered in an period of new hope. Stroz, thanks for saving my a$$. With the help from Italy, the attack on Austria commenced. As both France and Russia were all but exterminated at this point, an alliance between Germany, Italy and Turkey were formed to prevent an English solo and remove the Austrian threat once and for all. This succeeded through intensive diplomacy. Coordinating the moves of three countries is not simple (with busy real lives going on), and we had some hectic last minute discussions.

As Alan pointed out, a stab against Italy was tempting. But Englands position was too strong, and I was not going to hand him the solo.

In conclusion, I think the draw was a fair result. England was the largest power, but the rest of us were at that point coordinated enough to hold the line. Well done Mark, and to quote Iceman: "Jyri and Stroz, you can be my wingmen anytime" (Or most likely, the other way around) ;oD

Best regards,
Holm


From: Alan Farrington ([email]alley_cat_1990(at)hotmail.com[/email])
Sent: Wednesday, August 19, 2009 1:44 AM
To: Mark Utterback ([email]mdemagogue(at)gmail.com[/email]) ; Michael Holm ([email]zipholm(at)hotmail.com[/email]) ; Michael Stroz ([email]mistro914(at)gmail.com[/email]) ; Rachael Jameson ([email]verticallychallangedcutie(at)yahoo.com[/email]) ; Santiago Villamayor ([email]svillamayor(at)mail.cl[/email]) ; Jyri ([email]jyjusy(at)hotmail.com[/email]) ; DC225 ([email]dc225(at)diplomaticcorp.com[/email]) ; Mike Poobaloo ([email]mike(at)fuzzylogicllc.net[/email]) ; Anthony Stevens ([email]aandtstevens(at)gmail.com[/email]) ; Eugene ([email]icarusflier(at)gmail.com[/email]) ; mc3358a(at)student.american.edu ([email]mc3358a(at)student.american.edu[/email])
Subject: Dc 225: End Game - Make Love; Not War [a GM's EoG]




Its been 11 years since the continent of Europe was plunged into war, but finally the seven sinners of Europe have become the four sinners and decided to put away their guns and agreed to end the war.

A Four way Draw between Sultan Michael Holm [8 centers], Michael Stroz in Italy [9 centers], Kaiser Jyri Syrja in Germany [3 centers], and Her Majesty the Queen Mark Utterback [14 centers].

I'm sure everyoen would enjoy reading end of game statements from all the different players (past and present). Feel free to group email them to everyone or send them to me and I will forward them along. As for the GM I have just a few words that I would like to relay about the makeup of this game.

First of all I would like to thank Michael Stroz for stepping up and leading italy. He was the third leader to command those pesky Green units and did a magnificent job. I'd also like to thank Rachael Jameson, Santiago Villamayor, and Anthony Stevens for keeping with their declining positions even though the outcome was bleak. Its people like you that I can count on. Thanks!

I have two points to make about the game: First I think Italy did a great job getting a leg up on Mark in what is usually a complete stalemate line. I'm unsure how it would have worked out if the game had continued. Also, I've been waiting for the Turk to stab Italy since Fall 1909! If a stab wasn't coming why was that army parked in Serbia for so long? Turkey did the "right" thing, if he had stabbed I believe Mark would have won the solo and Holm would have lost his share in the draw, but the temptation to improve your position must have been immense.

Lastly I would like to make a shout out to Andy [The White Wolf] who was there to answer my question and coach me through my fist GM experience whenever I needed him.

If any of you are still reading I hope to see you in either the next game I play [South American Supremacy] , or the next game I GM [hopefully a Modern Variant]

Thank you all,
Alan Farrington

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Dc 225: End Game - Make Love; Not War [a GM's EoG] (dc225) jyan Aug 25, 04:03 pm
EoG, Germany

The game started with the French proposition of a E-F-G triple-alliance.
As I had very little communication with other powers (including England)
I had to take it. I never believed the triple alliance would last very
long and as France moved into BUR opposed to our deal I decided not to
trust France, no matter what happens. My biggest concern was how to get
England on my side when the war with France begins. I made a terrible
(but intentional) deal: I gave England DEN for free. Now, I was ready to
beat the French, but I also knew that as soon as the French were
eliminated I would be attacked by the English. Had to find a new ally. I
was hoping I could form an alliance with Austria, but he was in trouble
with Italy/Turkey and I was cought in the middle of that war. So,
surprisingly I found out that my allies were Italy and Turkey. From that
point on my plan was to slowly retreat from West, trying to buy some
time (needed to first eliminate Austria) and to keep enough centers so I
could force the other powers to include me in the draw.

It didn't go that easy. Austria fought well and it took too much time to
eliminate him. Italy was demanding help (with a good reason, I admit) to
cope with England
in the Medit. Sea and Iberia. So my retreat was far more faster than I
had planned. In the end I was left with three centers, knowing that my
life was in the hands of Turkey and Italy. To my luck they decided I was
included in the draw. So thank You, Michaels.

This was a fun game. I believe we all made big mistakes in the field,
but the diplomatics were suberp. In the beginning I was a little
depressed as nobody was really talking to me, but as Mr. Stroz entered
the game things started to roll. Thank you Stroz, you gave this game
some life! Also the other Michael, Mr. Holm, should be rewarded. He had
a near-death exprerience, never gave up and became one of the big
powers. Thanks for all the plans and scenarios, they really helped my
game in those time I was too busy in real life.

Thanks for all the other players, including Mr. Stevens (France, my dear
enemy), but excluding those who abandoned the game. And finally, I want
to thank Alan, our excellent GM. No complaints from my part (I was
surprised to see you made my proxy arrangement public, but that's all my
fault - had no time to negotiate the issue with you).

See you in another game, I hope!

-Jyri


Michael Holm kirjoitti:

Turkish EoG.

Again, thanks goes to Alan for a well run game, and the rest of you
for making this game fun and educational.

Just as England did in the west, I focused primarily on the Eastern
part of the board in the first half of the game, but not in the way I
had hoped in advance. I sent some introductions to the
other countries, and I received some tips and pointers from several of
the more experienced players. Thanks, that was both needed and
appreciated.

As to alliances etc., I did not get anything substancial. Mails to
Austria and Italy went unanswered, but I formed an alliance with
Russia. But after the first year, things started to go downhill. The
second ruler of Italy forged a lasting alliance with Austria and a NAP
with France, which was bad news for me. Also, the Turkish-Russian
alliance went downhill fast, as Russia implemented devious but strange
strategies, and the Austrian-Italian alliance made great gains at a
rapid pace. At this point, the only eastern country which answered my
communications were Italy, who remained loyal to Austria, though. As
they were doing great, I can't really blame him.

I decided to put all effort into thwarting Italy in the hope of
turning him against Austria, leaving an open front to the north. With
doom approaching rapidly, an Italian change of power ushered in an
period of new hope. Stroz, thanks for saving my a$$. With the help
from Italy, the attack on Austria commenced. As both France and Russia
were all but exterminated at this point, an alliance between Germany,
Italy and Turkey were formed to prevent an English solo and remove the
Austrian threat once and for all. This succeeded through intensive
diplomacy. Coordinating the moves of three countries is not simple
(with busy real lives going on), and we had some hectic last minute
discussions.

As Alan pointed out, a stab against Italy was tempting. But Englands
position was too strong, and I was not going to hand him the solo.

In conclusion, I think the draw was a fair result. England was the
largest power, but the rest of us were at that point coordinated
enough to hold the line. Well done Mark, and to quote Iceman: "Jyri
and Stroz, you can be my wingmen anytime" (Or most likely, the other
way around) ;oD

Best regards,
Holm

*From:* Alan Farrington <mailto:alley_cat_1990(at)hotmail.com>
*Sent:* Wednesday, August 19, 2009 1:44 AM
*To:* Mark Utterback <mailto:mdemagogue(at)gmail.com> ; Michael Holm
<mailto:zipholm(at)hotmail.com> ; Michael Stroz
<mailto:mistro914(at)gmail.com> ; Rachael Jameson
<mailto:verticallychallangedcutie(at)yahoo.com> ; Santiago Villamayor
<mailto:svillamayor(at)mail.cl> ; Jyri <mailto:jyjusy(at)hotmail.com> ;
DC225 <mailto:dc225(at)diplomaticcorp.com> ; Mike Poobaloo
<mailto:mike(at)fuzzylogicllc.net> ; Anthony Stevens
<mailto:aandtstevens(at)gmail.com> ; Eugene
<mailto:icarusflier(at)gmail.com> ; mc3358a(at)student.american.edu
<mailto:mc3358a(at)student.american.edu>
*Subject:* Dc 225: End Game - Make Love; Not War [a GM's EoG]

Its been 11 years since the continent of Europe was plunged into war,
but finally the seven sinners of Europe have become the four sinners
and decided to put away their guns and agreed to end the war.

A Four way Draw between Sultan Michael Holm [8 centers], Michael
Stroz in Italy [9 centers], Kaiser Jyri Syrja in Germany [3 centers],
and Her Majesty the Queen Mark Utterback [14 centers].

I'm sure everyoen would enjoy reading end of game statements from all
the different players (past and present). Feel free to group email
them to everyone or send them to me and I will forward them along. As
for the GM I have just a few words that I would like to relay about
the makeup of this game.

First of all I would like to thank Michael Stroz for stepping up and
leading italy. He was the third leader to command those pesky Green
units and did a magnificent job. I'd also like to thank Rachael
Jameson, Santiago Villamayor, and Anthony Stevens for keeping with
their declining positions even though the outcome was bleak. Its
people like you that I can count on. Thanks!

I have two points to make about the game: First I think Italy did a
great job getting a leg up on Mark in what is usually a complete
stalemate line. I'm unsure how it would have worked out if the game
had continued. Also, I've been waiting for the Turk to stab Italy
since Fall 1909! If a stab wasn't coming why was that army parked in
Serbia for so long? Turkey did the "right" thing, if he had stabbed I
believe Mark would have won the solo and Holm would have lost his
share in the draw, but the temptation to improve your position must
have been immense.

Lastly I would like to make a shout out to Andy [The White Wolf] who
was there to answer my question and coach me through my fist GM
experience whenever I needed him.

If any of you are still reading I hope to see you in either the next
game I play [South American Supremacy] , or the next game I GM
[hopefully a Modern Variant]

Thank you all,
Alan Farrington

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