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Well, not to make this about me, but let me clarify: I got a lot of last minute messages. Which is of course part of the game.
 
The problem, as I'll definitely agree with Tim, is that a) the turn now goes waaaaay too long and b) there was a clear deadline set. That was the point of my first response -- I'm confused if ANYONE thought there was a deadline other than 8/7 (unless our esteemed GM communicated otherwise in other exchanges.)
 
To me, I plotted moves based upon the messages, lack thereof, and apparently "last minute"  communications. Which means another week re-opens negotiations. And if all moves are in, then it really does distort a lot of things, even if, as Tim suggests, all arrangements are in place.
 
-Joe


--- On Sun, 8/9/09, Tim Vaillemans <tim.vaillemans(at)gmail.com ([email]tim.vaillemans(at)gmail.com[/email])> wrote:

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From: Tim Vaillemans <tim.vaillemans(at)gmail.com ([email]tim.vaillemans(at)gmail.com[/email])>
Subject: Re: DC270: Diplomacy Kickoff

To: "joe babinsack" <chaosonejoe(at)yahoo.com ([email]chaosonejoe(at)yahoo.com[/email])>
Cc: "aefgirt7(at)yahoo.com ([email]aefgirt7(at)yahoo.com[/email])" <aefgirt7(at)yahoo.com ([email]aefgirt7(at)yahoo.com[/email])>, "samuel.jurado(at)yahoo.com ([email]samuel.jurado(at)yahoo.com[/email])" <samuel.jurado(at)yahoo.com ([email]samuel.jurado(at)yahoo.com[/email])>, "ianxshaw(at)gmail.com ([email]ianxshaw(at)gmail.com[/email])" <ianxshaw(at)gmail.com ([email]ianxshaw(at)gmail.com[/email])>, "josepayne(at)gmail.com ([email]josepayne(at)gmail.com[/email])" <josepayne(at)gmail.com ([email]josepayne(at)gmail.com[/email])>, "zauberlichneo(at)hotmail.com ([email]zauberlichneo(at)hotmail.com[/email])" <zauberlichneo(at)hotmail.com ([email]zauberlichneo(at)hotmail.com[/email])>, "dc270(at)diplomaticcorp.com ([email]dc270(at)diplomaticcorp.com[/email])" <dc270(at)diplomaticcorp.com ([email]dc270(at)diplomaticcorp.com[/email])>, "Darryl Good" <dipknight(at)gmail.com ([email]dipknight(at)gmail.com[/email])>
Date: Sunday, August 9, 2009, 6:40 PM


Hey everybody,


I fully agree on what Joe has written.
If the deadline has been set in the 7th then everybody should have made his/her orders.  Even if you -gm - form some reason have mistakenly put up the wrong date.  Is there anyone not yet pit in his orders? Sorry -kick him/her as you have very clearly stated in the launch email.


Sorry gm but this is not oke for me.  Mainly because I have made my move and somebody was a bit surprised on the very late agreement -almost a quote - isn't is mr Germany  


Btw 2 weeks for 1 order? Come on negotiations have been done and whom not yet done them is never gonna do them. Please get on with the next moves..  


Ps . The Germany surprise is not of a big deal and all others I contacted - things stay as we agreed.
 
Later dudes

Tim

On 9-aug-2009, at 23:01, joe babinsack <chaosonejoe(at)yahoo.com> wrote:



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I'm a bit confused. All deadlines suggested August 7th, and I conducted negotiations based on that deadline.
 
There's a distinct lack of communications so far, which may be explained by an August 14th deadline, but then again, how is it that a few players were acting upon the shorter timeframe, while others haven't?
 
Curious.
Joe

--- On Sun, 8/9/09, Darryl Good <dipknight(at)gmail.com> wrote:

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From: Darryl Good <dipknight(at)gmail.com>
Subject: Re: DC270: Diplomacy Kickoff
To: aefgirt7(at)yahoo.com, samuel.jurado(at)yahoo.com, tim.vaillemans(at)gmail.com, chaosonejoe(at)yahoo.com, ianxshaw(at)gmail.com, josepayne(at)gmail.com, zauberlichneo(at)hotmail.com, dc270(at)diplomaticcorp.com
Date: Sunday, August 9, 2009, 12:10 PM

All,
 
To all of you who are patiently waiting for the results; especially given my strongest advice not to miss the deadline . . . or you would be booted; I apologies.  It seems your GM has missed the Deadline himself.  It was not my intent to make this first season so short by setting the deadline for last Friday, August 7th but to set it for this upcomming Friday, August 14th.  Again, I apologies for the error and will endevor to pay closer attention to these details.
 
The Deadline as it should have been set is August 14, 2009; 5PM US MDT, (2400 hrs GMT).
 
Best of Luck,
       Darryl (GM)

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From: Tim Vaillemans <tim.vaillemans(at)gmail.com>
Subject: Re: DC270: Diplomacy Kickoff
To: "joe babinsack" <chaosonejoe(at)yahoo.com>
Cc: "aefgirt7(at)yahoo.com" <aefgirt7(at)yahoo.com>, "samuel.jurado(at)yahoo.com" <samuel.jurado(at)yahoo.com>, "ianxshaw(at)gmail.com" <ianxshaw(at)gmail.com>, "josepayne(at)gmail.com" <josepayne(at)gmail.com>, "zauberlichneo(at)hotmail.com" <zauberlichneo(at)hotmail.com>, "dc270(at)diplomaticcorp.com" <dc270(at)diplomaticcorp.com>, "Darryl Good" <dipknight(at)gmail.com>
Date: Sunday, August 9, 2009, 6:40 PM

Hey everybody,


I fully agree on what Joe has written.
If the deadline has been set in the 7th then everybody should have made his/her orders. Even if you -gm - form some reason have mistakenly put up the wrong date. Is there anyone not yet pit in his orders? Sorry -kick him/her as you have very clearly stated in the launch email.


Sorry gm but this is not oke for me. Mainly because I have made my move and somebody was a bit surprised on the very late agreement -almost a quote - isn't is mr Germany


Btw 2 weeks for 1 order? Come on negotiations have been done and whom not yet done them is never gonna do them. Please get on with the next moves..


Ps . The Germany surprise is not of a big deal and all others I contacted - things stay as we agreed.

Later dudes

Tim

On 9-aug-2009, at 23:01, joe babinsack <chaosonejoe(at)yahoo.com ([email]chaosonejoe(at)yahoo.com[/email])> wrote:



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I'm a bit confused. All deadlines suggested August 7th, and I conducted negotiations based on that deadline.

There's a distinct lack of communications so far, which may be explained by an August 14th deadline, but then again, how is it that a few players were acting upon the shorter timeframe, while others haven't?

Curious.
Joe

--- On Sun, 8/9/09, Darryl Good <dipknight(at)gmail.com ([email]dipknight(at)gmail.com[/email])> wrote:

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From: Darryl Good <dipknight(at)gmail.com ([email]dipknight(at)gmail.com[/email])>
Subject: Re: DC270: Diplomacy Kickoff
To: aefgirt7(at)yahoo.com ([email]aefgirt7(at)yahoo.com[/email]), samuel.jurado(at)yahoo.com ([email]samuel.jurado(at)yahoo.com[/email]), tim.vaillemans(at)gmail.com ([email]tim.vaillemans(at)gmail.com[/email]), chaosonejoe(at)yahoo.com ([email]chaosonejoe(at)yahoo.com[/email]), ianxshaw(at)gmail.com ([email]ianxshaw(at)gmail.com[/email]), josepayne(at)gmail.com ([email]josepayne(at)gmail.com[/email]), zauberlichneo(at)hotmail.com ([email]zauberlichneo(at)hotmail.com[/email]), dc270(at)diplomaticcorp.com ([email]dc270(at)diplomaticcorp.com[/email])
Date: Sunday, August 9, 2009, 12:10 PM

All,

To all of you who are patiently waiting for the results; especially given my strongest advice not to miss the deadline . . . or you would be booted; I apologies. It seems your GM has missed the Deadline himself. It was not my intent to make this first season so short by setting the deadline for last Friday, August 7th but to set it for this upcomming Friday, August 14th. Again, I apologies for the error and will endevor to pay closer attention to these details.

The Deadline as it should have been set is August 14, 2009; 5PM US MDT, (2400 hrs GMT).

Best of Luck,
Darryl (GM)

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and here is the resend from Gmail...IF THIS IS THE ONLY COPY OF THIS YOU
RECEIVE - tell me now!!!

Thanks -
B.
Honored Kings of the Dark Ages -

A bitter northern winter settles over both land and sea, and we see both
the
shipyards and the barracks hard at work raising new forces for the spring,
the time when men go off to war...

All builds are valid, and no retreats of course in a winter season, so we
move straight on to Spring. This is the last adjudication that will be
copied from both the Gmail and army email accounts. So - if you did NOT
successfully receive this adjudication announcement from both the Gmail and
Army accounts by midnight tonight - you *NEED* to let me know by sending me
an email or letting one of the players that has successfully contacted me
at
the army address know so they can tell me. An email sent only to the Gmail
address equals an NMR until I return on 7 August.

Mike/Jason - there is also a distinct possibility that I will not be able
to
access the Diplomatic Corps website during the next few seasons of
adjudications while I am away training with the Reserves. Is there any
possibility that I could get some temporary help updating the game on the
DC
website during that time?

SPRING 826 will be tenatively set for Thursday, July 16, 1700 GMT+1. There
is a possibility that I will have a break in email access for the next few
days while I am in transit and getting set up. Do not be alarmed if
confirmation of orders is slightly delayed. If by some terrible scenario I
am completely without email access or cannot adjudicate at the appointed
time, well - worst comes to worst, we will take a break and resume when I
return. I doubt that will happen. Expect an email from me to touch base
and make contact as soon as I am established at training.
As always, for those just joining us or observing, here is the player list:

Nick Higgins - Cyning of the Angles and Saxons (Anglo-Saxons)
congressofvienna1814 AT yahoo DOT com
Matthew Kelly - Brenin of the Brythons (Britons)
kelly058 AT verizon DOT net
Gregory Bim-Merle - Kong of the Dani (Danes)
gbimmerle AT gmail DOT com
Nathan Deily - Ard Rí na hÉireann (Gaels)
ndeily AT yahoo DOT com
Scott Troemel - Kong of the Norge (Norse)
brn2dip AT yahoo DOT com
Nigel Phillips - Rí Alban (Scots)
nephilli99 AT hotmail DOT com
Mark Duffield - Konung of the Suetidi (Swedes)
captain_sicarius AT hotmail DOT com
and me, your humble GM, B. (Benjamin Hester)
screwtape777 AT gmail DOT com
benjamin DOT hester AT us DOT army DOT mil


Gaels:

Build F Ulster


Scots:

Build F Cait
Build F Circinn


Bretons:

Build A Dyfed
Build A Gwynned


Norse:


Build F Rogaland
Build F Vestfold


AngloSaxons:


Build A Hamptonshire
Build A Kent


Danes:


Build A Jelling
Build F Roskilde


Swedes:


Build F Svear
Build A Gotar



--
Diplomacy in Texas!
www.texasdiplomacy.com

http://nairenvorbeck.angelfire.com/
Realpolitik files available here for the Sengoku, Balkans1860, South
American Supremacy, and DarkAges Diplomacy Variants

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I'm a bit confused. All deadlines suggested August 7th, and I conducted negotiations based on that deadline.

There's a distinct lack of communications so far, which may be explained by an August 14th deadline, but then again, how is it that a few players were acting upon the shorter timeframe, while others haven't?

Curious.
Joe

--- On Sun, 8/9/09, Darryl Good <dipknight(at)gmail.com ([email]dipknight(at)gmail.com[/email])> wrote:

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From: Darryl Good <dipknight(at)gmail.com ([email]dipknight(at)gmail.com[/email])>
Subject: Re: DC270: Diplomacy Kickoff
To: aefgirt7(at)yahoo.com ([email]aefgirt7(at)yahoo.com[/email]), samuel.jurado(at)yahoo.com ([email]samuel.jurado(at)yahoo.com[/email]), tim.vaillemans(at)gmail.com ([email]tim.vaillemans(at)gmail.com[/email]), chaosonejoe(at)yahoo.com ([email]chaosonejoe(at)yahoo.com[/email]), ianxshaw(at)gmail.com ([email]ianxshaw(at)gmail.com[/email]), josepayne(at)gmail.com ([email]josepayne(at)gmail.com[/email]), zauberlichneo(at)hotmail.com ([email]zauberlichneo(at)hotmail.com[/email]), dc270(at)diplomaticcorp.com ([email]dc270(at)diplomaticcorp.com[/email])
Date: Sunday, August 9, 2009, 12:10 PM

All,

To all of you who are patiently waiting for the results; especially given my strongest advice not to miss the deadline . . . or you would be booted; I apologies. It seems your GM has missed the Deadline himself. It was not my intent to make this first season so short by setting the deadline for last Friday, August 7th but to set it for this upcomming Friday, August 14th. Again, I apologies for the error and will endevor to pay closer attention to these details.

The Deadline as it should have been set is August 14, 2009; 5PM US MDT, (2400 hrs GMT).

Best of Luck,
Darryl (GM)

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From: Darryl Good <dipknight(at)gmail.com>
Subject: Re: DC270: Diplomacy Kickoff
To: aefgirt7(at)yahoo.com, samuel.jurado(at)yahoo.com, tim.vaillemans(at)gmail.com, chaosonejoe(at)yahoo.com, ianxshaw(at)gmail.com, josepayne(at)gmail.com, zauberlichneo(at)hotmail.com, dc270(at)diplomaticcorp.com
Date: Sunday, August 9, 2009, 12:10 PM

All,

To all of you who are patiently waiting for the results; especially given my strongest advice not to miss the deadline . . . or you would be booted; I apologies. It seems your GM has missed the Deadline himself. It was not my intent to make this first season so short by setting the deadline for last Friday, August 7th but to set it for this upcomming Friday, August 14th. Again, I apologies for the error and will endevor to pay closer attention to these details.

The Deadline as it should have been set is August 14, 2009; 5PM US MDT, (2400 hrs GMT).

Best of Luck,
Darryl (GM)

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