DC 211: S1909 Seismics - AceRimmer (Mar 26, 2009, 11:35 am) |
Some serious moving and shaking going on in the south. Especially that French order caused a lot of redrawing the map. I *think* I've got it right, but you may want to double-check just to be sure. But after all the dust settles, Rome can be taken, if that be the French plan. But all things are fleeting, and the question will be: can it be held?
And let's not forget that English fleets now border Moscow in the north.
There will be a Fall 1909. It will happen on Tuesday, March 31.
Austria:
Split WMe/Apu, Join Ion/Rom
England:
split Liv/Gob - join Bal/Mos
France:
Tun and OUT split, MAt and Wes connect
Russia:
Split Rom/Gol, Join Pie/Tus[Reply] |
DC242: Fall 1902 ERRATUM - Rocketship (Mar 26, 2009, 11:02 am) |
Hi Folks,
Just after mailing the adjudication, I realized that I made a
mistake. The following line should have appeared in the Winter 1902
section:
Austria: Remove one.
The online adjudication has already been updated. Please accept my
apologies.
Cheers,
Matthew
On Mar 26, 2009, at 8:57 AM, Rocketship wrote:
DC242 Fall 1902
Austria:
F Albania Supports A Greece
A Budapest Supports A Vienna - Galicia
A Greece, no move received (*Disbanded*)
A Vienna - Galicia
England:
A Finland - Sweden
F London - North Sea
F Norway Supports A Finland - Sweden
F Skagerrak Supports A Finland - Sweden
France:
A Burgundy - Marseilles (*Dislodged*)
A Marseilles - Spain
F Mid-Atlantic Ocean - Portugal
A Paris - Picardy (*Bounce*)
Germany:
A Belgium - Picardy (*Bounce*)
A Denmark Supports F Sweden (*Ordered to Move*)
F Holland - Belgium (*Fails*)
A Munich Supports A Ruhr - Burgundy
A Ruhr - Burgundy
Italy:
A Piedmont - Marseilles (*Bounce*)
A Rome - Tuscany
F Tyrrhenian Sea - Gulf of Lyon
F Western Mediterranean Supports A Marseilles - Spain
Russia:
F Black Sea - Rumania
A Bohemia - Vienna
A Galicia Supports A Bohemia - Vienna (*Dislodged*)
A Moscow - St Petersburg
A Rumania - Serbia
F Sweden - Norway (*Dislodged*)
Turkey:
F Aegean Sea Supports F Ionian Sea - Greece
A Bulgaria Supports F Ionian Sea - Greece
A Constantinople - Ankara
F Ionian Sea - Greece
Autumn 1902 and Winter 1902 will be due at the same time, at 8am GMT
on Saturday, March 28, 2009. Spring 1903 will then be due on
Thursday, April 2, 2009 at 8am GMT.
Autumn 1902
France A Bur can retreat to Gas. I'll do this automatically, unless
told to disband.
Russia F Swe can retreat to Bot or Bal.
Russia A Gal can retreat to Sil, War, or Ukr.
Winter 1902
England: Build one
France: Build one (or two, if A Bur is disbanded).
Germany: Build one.
Russia: Build one.
Turkey: Build one.
Cheers,
Matthew
<dc242.gif><dc242.dpy> [Reply] |
DC242: Fall 1902 - Rocketship (Mar 26, 2009, 10:57 am) |
DC242 Fall 1902
Austria:
F Albania Supports A Greece
A Budapest Supports A Vienna - Galicia
A Greece, no move received (*Disbanded*)
A Vienna - Galicia
England:
A Finland - Sweden
F London - North Sea
F Norway Supports A Finland - Sweden
F Skagerrak Supports A Finland - Sweden
France:
A Burgundy - Marseilles (*Dislodged*)
A Marseilles - Spain
F Mid-Atlantic Ocean - Portugal
A Paris - Picardy (*Bounce*)
Germany:
A Belgium - Picardy (*Bounce*)
A Denmark Supports F Sweden (*Ordered to Move*)
F Holland - Belgium (*Fails*)
A Munich Supports A Ruhr - Burgundy
A Ruhr - Burgundy
Italy:
A Piedmont - Marseilles (*Bounce*)
A Rome - Tuscany
F Tyrrhenian Sea - Gulf of Lyon
F Western Mediterranean Supports A Marseilles - Spain
Russia:
F Black Sea - Rumania
A Bohemia - Vienna
A Galicia Supports A Bohemia - Vienna (*Dislodged*)
A Moscow - St Petersburg
A Rumania - Serbia
F Sweden - Norway (*Dislodged*)
Turkey:
F Aegean Sea Supports F Ionian Sea - Greece
A Bulgaria Supports F Ionian Sea - Greece
A Constantinople - Ankara
F Ionian Sea - Greece
Autumn 1902 and Winter 1902 will be due at the same time, at 8am GMT
on Saturday, March 28, 2009. Spring 1903 will then be due on
Thursday, April 2, 2009 at 8am GMT.
Autumn 1902
France A Bur can retreat to Gas. I'll do this automatically, unless
told to disband.
Russia F Swe can retreat to Bot or Bal.
Russia A Gal can retreat to Sil, War, or Ukr.
Winter 1902
England: Build one
France: Build one (or two, if A Bur is disbanded).
Germany: Build one.
Russia: Build one.
Turkey: Build one.
Cheers,
Matthew[Reply] |
DC219, Deadline reminder - m_don_j (Mar 26, 2009, 10:02 am) |
Heya folks!
1 set short still. Remember, if I havn't replied to your orders, then I havn't gotten them.
/ Mikael
Hitta inspiration till middagsmaten! MSN Mat & Dryck[Reply] |
Dc241 Map and Deadline - deathblade_penguin (Mar 26, 2009, 2:53 am) |
Dear Players of Dc241.
I have attached what I believe to be the current map. Please check it - as an errors NOT brought to my attention prior to the next deadline will stand.
Germany retreats Sweden to Ska.
Fall 1902 Deadline is Tuesday 31st March at 7pm, Australian EST
(Note to US and Europeons- AUSTRALIAN time.. that generally means the night before MONDAY night!!!!!)
I still am missing 3 confirnmations from players.
Find car news, reviews and more Looking to change your car this year?[Reply] |
Dc228 - 26 hour warning EIT - deathblade_penguin (Mar 26, 2009, 1:41 am) |
Dc228 Spring 1905 is due Friday 27th March at 7pm, Australian EST
This is your 26 hour warning, I have no moves from :-
England
Italy
Turkey
Stephen Lytton
Knight of the Alliance
Moderator of www.diplomaticcorp.com
Let ninemsn property help. Need a new place to rent, share or buy?[Reply] |
Dc197 - 26 hour warning FRGT - deathblade_penguin (Mar 26, 2009, 1:40 am) |
Dc197 Fall 1910 is due Friday 27th March at 7pm, Australian EST
This is your 26 hour warning, I have no moves from :-
France
Russia
Germany
Turkey
Stephen Lytton
Knight of the Alliance
Moderator of www.diplomaticcorp.com
Find car news, reviews and more Looking to change your car this year?[Reply] |
Dc220 - 26 hour warning. AEFRTG - deathblade_penguin (Mar 26, 2009, 1:37 am) |
Dc220 Spring 1906 is due Friday 27th March, 7pm, Australia EST
I have NO moves :-
Austria
England
France
Russia
Turkey
Germany
Stephen Lytton
Knight of the Alliance
Moderator of www.diplomaticcorp.com
Date: Wed, 4 Feb 2009 09:31:26 -0800
From: verticallychallangedcutie(at)yahoo.com
Subject: DC 220 Temp Change of GM
To: dc220(at)diplomaticcorp.com; jasonmbeck(at)gmail.com; akossoff(at)gmail.com; dc220(at)diplomaticcorp.com; finchleywomble(at)hotmail.com; zauberlichneo(at)hotmail.com; insky(at)cox.net; stevelytton(at)hotmail.com; cloudhurler77(at)yahoo.com; psychosis(at)sky.com; former.trout(at)gmail.com
CC: stevelytton(at)hotmail.com
Folks,
As some of you know things have been pretty hectic in my house lately. The kids and I came down with a horrible stomach virus that I wouldn't wish on my worst enemy. The kids and I are finally better but we just received word that my husband is being sent back to his home base a few days earlier. That leaves me little less then a week to get packed, find us a truck and an apartment in San Antonio. During this time Stephen Lytton will be taking over GMing for you go so all orders from now on are to be sent to stevelytton(at)hotmail.com.
As soon as we get into San Antonio and we get settled I will take back over. Stephen will be setting a new deadline I believe. Have fun guys and take care. I'll be back in about 2 -3 weeks.. ( hopefully 2! )
-Rachael
Download the new Windows Live Messenger Find out what’s new with your friends[Reply] |
Dc212 - 26 hour warning AFIA - deathblade_penguin (Mar 26, 2009, 1:34 am) |
Dc212 Fall 1909 is due Friday 27th March, 7pm Australian EST.
This is your 26 hour warning. I have NO moves from :-
Austria, France, Italy and Russia
Stephen Lytton
Knight of the Alliance
Moderator of www.diplomaticcorp.com
Date: Wed, 4 Feb 2009 09:34:41 -0800
From: verticallychallangedcutie(at)yahoo.com
Subject: DC 212 Temp Change of GM
To: dc212(at)diplomaticcorp.com; closed.sunday(at)gmail.com; yeeha77(at)yahoo.com; dc212(at)diplomaticcorp.com; patrick.t.canning(at)gmail.com; former.trout(at)gmail.com; Jimmy.Ghostine(at)vtmednet.org; joejoe7896(at)yahoo.com; drew3739o(at)yahoo.com; stevelytton(at)hotmail.com
Folks,
As some of you know things have been pretty hectic in my house lately. The kids and I came down with a horrible stomach virus that I wouldn't wish on my worst enemy. The kids and I are finally better but we just received word that my husband is being sent back to his home base a few days earlier. That leaves me little less then a week to get packed, find us a truck and an apartment in San Antonio. During this time Stephen Lytton will be taking over GMing for you go so all orders from now on are to be sent to stevelytton(at)hotmail.com.
As soon as we get into San Antonio and we get settled I will take back over. Stephen will be setting a new deadline I believe. Have fun guys and take care. I'll be back in about 2 -3 weeks.. ( hopefully 2! )
-Rachael
Get what you want at ebay. View photos of singles in your area[Reply] |
DC250 - The Actual Player Roster - former.trout (Mar 26, 2009, 12:16 am) |
Heh heh heh...
Good start, eh? Guess I kindof forgot to actually attach the player roster. *sigh*
Here it is. Thanks for those players who pointed this out.. =)
Cheers man,
Trout
Player list for dc250
Ctry : Austria 0
Name : Shawn Buis
Email : thanksliving(at)hotmail.com ([email]thanksliving(at)hotmail.com[/email])
Ctry : England 0
Name : Dan Huck
Email : aefgirt7(at)yahoo.com ([email]aefgirt7(at)yahoo.com[/email])
Ctry : France 0
Name : manos tagar
Email : etagarakis(at)hotmail.com ([email]etagarakis(at)hotmail.com[/email])
Ctry : Germany 0
Name : John Curran
Email : thomasdaddy(at)msn.com ([email]thomasdaddy(at)msn.com[/email])
Ctry : Italy 0
Name : Christian MacDonald
Email : mouldingandmillwork(at)yahoo.com ([email]mouldingandmillwork(at)yahoo.com[/email])
Ctry : Russia 0
Name : dave moffett
Email : greenfrog54(at)aol.com ([email]greenfrog54(at)aol.com[/email])
Ctry : Turkey 0
Name : thor egil braadland
Email : thoregil.braadland(at)gmail.com ([email]thoregil.braadland(at)gmail.com[/email])[Reply] |
DC240 / A&E090205: deadline is tomorrow night - NickHiggins (Mar 25, 2009, 9:47 pm) |
DC240 / A&E 090205: The deadline is tomorrow night. I am not going to send individual reminders and confirmations this time, as I've only received orders from one person. Hopefully this means there is some intense diplom-ing going on... let's get those orders in!!!
Nick
---------------------------------------
Nick Higgins
Congress of Vienna variant website:
http://1814congressofvienna.tripod.com[Reply] |
DC230 Fall 02 - Slight German Correction - former.trout (Mar 25, 2009, 9:28 pm) |
Heya guys,
My bad... Once again, you just can't get good help these days - your humble substitute GM screwed up one of the German orders. Germany actually ordered the Baltic Sea -> Denmark. Not sure what I was smoking last night, but it must have been pretty good. =)
The corrected map is attached. I do already have Germany's winter adjustment, but I like to give the full time for the deadline usually so I won't adjudicate until tomorrow night.
Cheers all!
Trout
On Tue, Mar 24, 2009 at 6:46 PM, Former Trout <former.trout(at)gmail.com ([email]former.trout(at)gmail.com[/email])> wrote:
Hey there folks,
Lots of noise and confusion in the south as everyone seems to buy a ticket for Bulgarian station. Meanwhile, the French spend an autumn vacation in the Welsh countryside.
No retreats are needed, and only a single Winter 02 adjustment. Germany gains a build, which is the sum total of what is needed for Winter. Deadline for Winter 02 will be set for Thursday, March 26th (11:59 PM GMT).
Just let me know if you spot any errors. Cheers all!
Trout
Movement results for Fall of 1902. (DC230 02 FALL)
Austria: F Aegean Sea - Constantinople (*Fails*).
Austria: A Budapest - Rumania (*Fails*).
Austria: A Galicia Hold.
Austria: A Greece - Bulgaria (*Bounce*).
Austria: A Serbia Supports A Greece - Bulgaria.
England: F London Supports F North Sea.
England: F North Sea Supports A Norway.
England: A Norway Hold.
England: F Norwegian Sea Supports A Norway.
France: A Burgundy Hold.
France: F English Channel Convoys A Spain - Wales.
France: F Gulf of Lyon - Spain(sc).
France: F Mid-Atlantic Ocean Convoys A Spain - Wales.
France: A Spain - Wales.
Germany: F Baltic Sea Supports A Norway - Sweden (*Void*).
Germany: A Belgium Hold.
Germany: A Denmark - Kiel.
Germany: F Holland Supports A Belgium.
Germany: A Munich Hold.
Italy: F Ionian Sea - Greece (*Fails*).
Italy: A Tunis Hold.
Italy: F Tyrrhenian Sea - Ionian Sea (*Fails*).
Italy: A Venice - Tuscany.
Russia: F Barents Sea Hold.
Russia: F Black Sea Supports A Rumania - Bulgaria.
Russia: A Rumania - Bulgaria (*Bounce*).
Russia: A St Petersburg - Livonia.
Russia: F Sweden Hold.
Russia: A Warsaw Hold.
Turkey: F Ankara Hold.
Turkey: A Bulgaria Supports F Aegean Sea - Greece (*Void*).
Turkey: A Constantinople Supports A Bulgaria (*Cut*).
Turkey: F Smyrna, no move received.
Unit locations:
Austria: F Aegean Sea, A Budapest, A Galicia, A Greece, A Serbia.
England: F London, F North Sea, A Norway, F Norwegian Sea.
France: A Burgundy, F English Channel, F Mid-Atlantic Ocean, F Spain(sc), A
Wales.
Germany: F Baltic Sea, A Belgium, F Holland, A Kiel, A Munich.
Italy: F Ionian Sea, A Tunis, A Tuscany, F Tyrrhenian Sea.
Russia: F Barents Sea, F Black Sea, A Livonia, A Rumania, F Sweden, A Warsaw.
Turkey: F Ankara, A Bulgaria, A Constantinople, F Smyrna.
Ownership of supply centers:
Austria: Budapest, Greece, Serbia, Trieste, Vienna.
England: Edinburgh, Liverpool, London, Norway.
France: Brest, Marseilles, Paris, Portugal, Spain.
Germany: Belgium, Berlin, Denmark, Holland, Kiel, Munich.
Italy: Naples, Rome, Tunis, Venice.
Russia: Moscow, Rumania, Sevastopol, St Petersburg, Sweden, Warsaw.
Turkey: Ankara, Bulgaria, Constantinople, Smyrna.
Austria: 5 Supply centers, 5 Units: Builds 0 units.
England: 4 Supply centers, 4 Units: Builds 0 units.
France: 5 Supply centers, 5 Units: Builds 0 units.
Germany: 6 Supply centers, 5 Units: Builds 1 unit.
Italy: 4 Supply centers, 4 Units: Builds 0 units.
Russia: 6 Supply centers, 6 Units: Builds 0 units.
Turkey: 4 Supply centers, 4 Units: Builds 0 units.
NEXT DEADLINE: WINTER 02 ADJUSTMENTS DUE THURSDAY, MARCH 26TH (11:59 PM GMT)!!
[Reply] |
DC 218 SHIFT LEFT: Spring 1906 results; Fall 1906... - packrat (Mar 25, 2009, 9:22 pm) |
Austria:
A Trieste Supports A Vienna - Budapest
A Vienna - Budapest
France:
F Bulgaria(sc) - Greece
A Gascony Supports A Paris - Brest
A Kiel - Holland
F Mid-Atlantic Ocean - English Channel
A Paris - Brest
Germany:
Ah, things start to heat up - so the game goes on. Everybody's
home, everybody has open home dots - should make the fall that
more interesting.
There are not retreats needed so we move right on to fall. Those
orders are due on 3/31/2009. AND THAT IS THE DEADLINE!!!
I don't have the damn time to play babysitter on this one anymore - if
you can't get them in on time then please consider getting a replacement
for yourself. The deadlines are set with plenty of time, and if you need an
extension all you need to do is ask and you will likely get it. There is no
excuse for the recent nonsense.
A Galicia - Silesia
A Munich - Kiel
F Spain(sc) - Mid-Atlantic Ocean
Italy:
F Brest - Picardy
F Marseilles Hold
A Venice - Rome
Russia:
F Aegean Sea - Smyrna (*Fails*)
A Rumania - Sevastopol
A Warsaw - Moscow
Turkey:
A Ankara - Constantinople
A Smyrna Supports A Ankara - Constantinople (*Cut*)[Reply] |
DC250 - My Army Is Bigger Than Your Army - Game-La... - former.trout (Mar 25, 2009, 8:51 pm) |
Heya folks,
I'm very happy to announce the game-launch of DC-250, which I've tongue-in-cheek named "My Army Is Bigger Than Your Army!" The player roster and country assignments are below. Due to almost all of you guys virtually having the same sets of preferences, not everyone landed the country in the top range of their choices. Hopefully everyone will make the best of the position that they landed. =)
I've attached a copy of my house rules, with which I'll be governing any grey areas that might crop up during game-play. Please do look them over - I know that they're somewhat extensive but it is all good info for you folks to know. In addition, I've included a copy of the standard game-start map.
Our game forum is dc250(at)diplomaticcorp.com ([email]dc250(at)diplomaticcorp.com[/email]) It is of great benefit if you go to the message board and subscribe to that forum. That way, if email quirks and you miss an email from me, you should still receive it by way of the message board.
And that about covers it. I'm thrilled to have you all in the game! Happy stabbing! The deadline for Spring 1901 orders will be set due for Thursday, April 2nd (11:59 PM GMT). Prelims are both welcome and highly encouraged. =)
Game on!
Trout
DC250 GM
Knight of the Unicorn[Reply] |
DC223 - Autumn and Winter 1907 - bielf11 (Mar 25, 2009, 7:59 pm) |
Extension granted for the turn after Spring 1908. If the next turn is Summer and you're not required to make any retreats, are you okay for us to move on? If so, Apr 5 will be the next deadline for you.
Frank
2009/3/25 joshua tag <sanjat312(at)yahoo.com ([email]sanjat312(at)yahoo.com[/email])>
Hello all,
This is Josh, the Turkish ruler. Regarding the next season, I will submit my orders for the 30th on time, but the week of the 29th-4th I will be in New Orleans and probably have little or no access to the internet, and thus my email. For the GM, I request an extension on the season following Spring 1908.
Thanks,
Josh
--- On Wed, 3/25/09, F Bielschowsky <bielschowsky.f(at)googlemail.com ([email]bielschowsky.f(at)googlemail.com[/email])> wrote:
[quote:330659a0f2]From: F Bielschowsky <bielschowsky.f(at)googlemail.com ([email]bielschowsky.f(at)googlemail.com[/email])>
Subject: DC223 - Autumn and Winter 1907
To: dc223(at)diplomaticcorp.com ([email]dc223(at)diplomaticcorp.com[/email]), "Doug Wooden (DC223 FRA)" <dougwooden(at)gmail.com ([email]dougwooden(at)gmail.com[/email])>, "Jack McHugh - Flapjack (DC223 AH / DC201 Sverige)" <jwmchughjr(at)gmail.com ([email]jwmchughjr(at)gmail.com[/email])>, "Jerry Todd (DC223 ITA)" <sgttodd(at)mainecav.org ([email]sgttodd(at)mainecav.org[/email])>, "Jorge Saralegui (DC223 RUS)" <jmsaralegui(at)gmail.com ([email]jmsaralegui(at)gmail.com[/email])>, "Joshua Tag (DC223 TUR)" <sanjat312(at)yahoo.com ([email]sanjat312(at)yahoo.com[/email])>, "Max Victory (DC223 ENG)" <Maxatrest(at)yahoo.co.uk ([email]Maxatrest(at)yahoo.co.uk[/email])>, "Stefan Krekeler (DC223 GER)" <Stefan.Krekeler(at)web.de ([email]Stefan.Krekeler(at)web.de[/email])>
Cc: "Former Trout (DC190 South Africa / DC176 Austria / DC195 Argentina / DC201 France)" <former.trout(at)gmail.com ([email]former.trout(at)gmail.com[/email])>, "Steve Lytton (DC195 Columbia / DC201 Norge)" <stevelytton(at)hotmail.com ([email]stevelytton(at)hotmail.com[/email])>
Date: Wednesday, March 25, 2009, 4:51 PM
Autumn 1907: The French army in Burgundy retreats to Gascony.
Winter 1907: Russia builds a fleet in St Petersburg (nc) and Turkey a fleet in Smyrna.
Both Powers already anticicpated the outcome of Autumn and sent in their builds.
No other adjustments were required:
England: Supp 2 Unit 2 Build 0
France: Supp 7 Unit 7 Build 0
Germany: Supp 5 Unit 5 Build 0
Italy: Supp 3 Unit 3 Build 0
Russia: Supp 11 Unit 10 Build 1
Turkey: Supp 6 Unit 5 Build 1
Deadline for Spring 1908 is Monday Mar 30 at 23:00 GMT.
Frank
[/quote:330659a0f2][Reply] |
DC242: 6h Reminder for Fall 1902 - Rocketship (Mar 25, 2009, 7:57 pm) |
Hi Everyone,
This is your friendly 6h reminder for Fall 1902. I'm still missing
orders from 3 of you.
Sorry about sending out the reminder so late: we have a new baby in
the household, so my schedule has been derailed. It'll likely be 1600
GMT before I get the adjudication in.
Cheers,
Matthew[Reply] |
dc237-24h DL reminder - phantomas (Mar 25, 2009, 7:32 pm) |
hey people,
Only about 24h to the DL. If not done already, don't forget to send me your orders.
Thanks,
Your GM,
jluc.[Reply] |
dc237-24h DL reminder (dc237) phantomas Mar 27, 07:43 pm |
hey people,
Only about 24h to the DL. If not done already, don't forget to send me your orders.
Thanks,
Your GM,
jluc. |
dc237-24h DL reminder (dc237) phantomas Apr 02, 11:35 am |
hey people,
Only about less than 24h to the DL. If not done already, don't forget to send me your orders.
Thanks,
Your GM,
jluc. |
DC223 - Autumn and Winter 1907 - sanjat312 (Mar 25, 2009, 7:00 pm) |
Hello all,
This is Josh, the Turkish ruler. Regarding the next season, I will submit my orders for the 30th on time, but the week of the 29th-4th I will be in New Orleans and probably have little or no access to the internet, and thus my email. For the GM, I request an extension on the season following Spring 1908.
Thanks,
Josh
--- On Wed, 3/25/09, F Bielschowsky <bielschowsky.f(at)googlemail.com> wrote:
From: F Bielschowsky <bielschowsky.f(at)googlemail.com>
Subject: DC223 - Autumn and Winter 1907
To: dc223(at)diplomaticcorp.com, "Doug Wooden (DC223 FRA)" <dougwooden(at)gmail.com>, "Jack McHugh - Flapjack (DC223 AH / DC201 Sverige)" <jwmchughjr(at)gmail.com>, "Jerry Todd (DC223 ITA)" <sgttodd(at)mainecav.org>, "Jorge Saralegui (DC223 RUS)" <jmsaralegui(at)gmail.com>, "Joshua Tag (DC223 TUR)" <sanjat312(at)yahoo.com>, "Max Victory (DC223 ENG)" <Maxatrest(at)yahoo.co.uk>, "Stefan Krekeler (DC223 GER)" <Stefan.Krekeler(at)web.de>
Cc: "Former Trout (DC190 South Africa / DC176 Austria / DC195 Argentina / DC201 France)" <former.trout(at)gmail.com>, "Steve Lytton (DC195 Columbia / DC201 Norge)" <stevelytton(at)hotmail.com>
Date: Wednesday, March 25, 2009, 4:51 PM
Autumn 1907: The French army in Burgundy retreats to Gascony.
Winter 1907: Russia builds a fleet in St Petersburg (nc) and Turkey a fleet in Smyrna.
Both Powers already anticicpated the outcome of Autumn and sent in their builds.
No other adjustments were required:
England: Supp 2 Unit 2 Build 0
France: Supp 7 Unit 7 Build 0
Germany: Supp 5 Unit 5 Build 0
Italy: Supp 3 Unit 3 Build 0
Russia: Supp 11 Unit 10 Build 1
Turkey: Supp 6 Unit 5 Build 1
Deadline for Spring 1908 is Monday Mar 30 at 23:00 GMT.
Frank
[Reply] |
DC223 - Autumn and Winter 1907 - bielf11 (Mar 25, 2009, 6:52 pm) |
Autumn 1907: The French army in Burgundy retreats to Gascony.
Winter 1907: Russia builds a fleet in St Petersburg (nc) and Turkey a fleet in Smyrna.
Both Powers already anticicpated the outcome of Autumn and sent in their builds.
No other adjustments were required:
England: Supp 2 Unit 2 Build 0
France: Supp 7 Unit 7 Build 0
Germany: Supp 5 Unit 5 Build 0
Italy: Supp 3 Unit 3 Build 0
Russia: Supp 11 Unit 10 Build 1
Turkey: Supp 6 Unit 5 Build 1
Deadline for Spring 1908 is Monday Mar 30 at 23:00 GMT.
Frank
[Reply] |
DC223 - Autumn and Winter 1907 (dc223) sanjat312 Mar 25, 07:00 pm |
Hello all,
This is Josh, the Turkish ruler. Regarding the next season, I will submit my orders for the 30th on time, but the week of the 29th-4th I will be in New Orleans and probably have little or no access to the internet, and thus my email. For the GM, I request an extension on the season following Spring 1908.
Thanks,
Josh
--- On Wed, 3/25/09, F Bielschowsky <bielschowsky.f(at)googlemail.com> wrote:
From: F Bielschowsky <bielschowsky.f(at)googlemail.com>
Subject: DC223 - Autumn and Winter 1907
To: dc223(at)diplomaticcorp.com, "Doug Wooden (DC223 FRA)" <dougwooden(at)gmail.com>, "Jack McHugh - Flapjack (DC223 AH / DC201 Sverige)" <jwmchughjr(at)gmail.com>, "Jerry Todd (DC223 ITA)" <sgttodd(at)mainecav.org>, "Jorge Saralegui (DC223 RUS)" <jmsaralegui(at)gmail.com>, "Joshua Tag (DC223 TUR)" <sanjat312(at)yahoo.com>, "Max Victory (DC223 ENG)" <Maxatrest(at)yahoo.co.uk>, "Stefan Krekeler (DC223 GER)" <Stefan.Krekeler(at)web.de>
Cc: "Former Trout (DC190 South Africa / DC176 Austria / DC195 Argentina / DC201 France)" <former.trout(at)gmail.com>, "Steve Lytton (DC195 Columbia / DC201 Norge)" <stevelytton(at)hotmail.com>
Date: Wednesday, March 25, 2009, 4:51 PM
Autumn 1907: The French army in Burgundy retreats to Gascony.
Winter 1907: Russia builds a fleet in St Petersburg (nc) and Turkey a fleet in Smyrna.
Both Powers already anticicpated the outcome of Autumn and sent in their builds.
No other adjustments were required:
England: Supp 2 Unit 2 Build 0
France: Supp 7 Unit 7 Build 0
Germany: Supp 5 Unit 5 Build 0
Italy: Supp 3 Unit 3 Build 0
Russia: Supp 11 Unit 10 Build 1
Turkey: Supp 6 Unit 5 Build 1
Deadline for Spring 1908 is Monday Mar 30 at 23:00 GMT.
Frank
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DC223 - Autumn and Winter 1907 (dc223) bielf11 Mar 25, 07:59 pm |
Extension granted for the turn after Spring 1908. If the next turn is Summer and you're not required to make any retreats, are you okay for us to move on? If so, Apr 5 will be the next deadline for you.
Frank
2009/3/25 joshua tag <sanjat312(at)yahoo.com ([email]sanjat312(at)yahoo.com[/email])>
Hello all,
This is Josh, the Turkish ruler. Regarding the next season, I will submit my orders for the 30th on time, but the week of the 29th-4th I will be in New Orleans and probably have little or no access to the internet, and thus my email. For the GM, I request an extension on the season following Spring 1908.
Thanks,
Josh
--- On Wed, 3/25/09, F Bielschowsky <bielschowsky.f(at)googlemail.com ([email]bielschowsky.f(at)googlemail.com[/email])> wrote:
[quote:330659a0f2]From: F Bielschowsky <bielschowsky.f(at)googlemail.com ([email]bielschowsky.f(at)googlemail.com[/email])>
Subject: DC223 - Autumn and Winter 1907
To: dc223(at)diplomaticcorp.com ([email]dc223(at)diplomaticcorp.com[/email]), "Doug Wooden (DC223 FRA)" <dougwooden(at)gmail.com ([email]dougwooden(at)gmail.com[/email])>, "Jack McHugh - Flapjack (DC223 AH / DC201 Sverige)" <jwmchughjr(at)gmail.com ([email]jwmchughjr(at)gmail.com[/email])>, "Jerry Todd (DC223 ITA)" <sgttodd(at)mainecav.org ([email]sgttodd(at)mainecav.org[/email])>, "Jorge Saralegui (DC223 RUS)" <jmsaralegui(at)gmail.com ([email]jmsaralegui(at)gmail.com[/email])>, "Joshua Tag (DC223 TUR)" <sanjat312(at)yahoo.com ([email]sanjat312(at)yahoo.com[/email])>, "Max Victory (DC223 ENG)" <Maxatrest(at)yahoo.co.uk ([email]Maxatrest(at)yahoo.co.uk[/email])>, "Stefan Krekeler (DC223 GER)" <Stefan.Krekeler(at)web.de ([email]Stefan.Krekeler(at)web.de[/email])>
Cc: "Former Trout (DC190 South Africa / DC176 Austria / DC195 Argentina / DC201 France)" <former.trout(at)gmail.com ([email]former.trout(at)gmail.com[/email])>, "Steve Lytton (DC195 Columbia / DC201 Norge)" <stevelytton(at)hotmail.com ([email]stevelytton(at)hotmail.com[/email])>
Date: Wednesday, March 25, 2009, 4:51 PM
Autumn 1907: The French army in Burgundy retreats to Gascony.
Winter 1907: Russia builds a fleet in St Petersburg (nc) and Turkey a fleet in Smyrna.
Both Powers already anticicpated the outcome of Autumn and sent in their builds.
No other adjustments were required:
England: Supp 2 Unit 2 Build 0
France: Supp 7 Unit 7 Build 0
Germany: Supp 5 Unit 5 Build 0
Italy: Supp 3 Unit 3 Build 0
Russia: Supp 11 Unit 10 Build 1
Turkey: Supp 6 Unit 5 Build 1
Deadline for Spring 1908 is Monday Mar 30 at 23:00 GMT.
Frank
[/quote:330659a0f2] |
WWIV w12 builds! - FuzzyLogic (Mar 25, 2009, 1:34 pm) |
NEXT: Spring 13, due Wed 4/1, 10am Pacific!
Stats are updated, see www.diplomaticcorp.com?game_id=dc195
Enjoy,
-mike
RETREATS:
Argentina: F Nicaragua(nic)(ec) - Panama(pan)
Illinois: F Yucatan Basin(yub) - Eastern Gulf of Mexico(egm)
Thailand: A Shan Plateau(shn) - Laos(lao)
BUILDS:
Brazil:
Build F Recife(rec)
Build F Barranquilla(brn)
California:
Build F Los Angeles(la)
Catholica:
Build F Spain(spa)(sc)
Build A Marseilles(mar)
Build A Algiers(alg)
Illinois:
Build F Havana(hav)
Build F Guatamala(gml)
Build
Build
Build
Nigeria:
Build A Niger(ngr)
Build A Ethiopia(eth)
SichuanEmpire:
Build
UnitedKingdom:
Remove A Eastern Germany(egr)
Remove A Finland(fin)
UnitedStates:
Build F Puerto Rico(pr)
Build[Reply] |
WWIV w12 builds! (dc195) dougburg Mar 31, 08:45 pm |
Propose vote for DIAS with this next adjudication
Sichaun |
WWIV w12 builds! (dc195) txurce Mar 31, 08:53 pm |
Propose it, but I'll vote against it for the foreseeable future. I don't bail out of a game the first time I hit a wall. In fact, I can't wait to see what happens now that you have to face the Americans. Given how you fared against little old Turkey, my money is on the red, white and blue!
Jorge
Turkey
On Tue, Mar 31, 2009 at 6:43 PM, Doug Burgoyne <dougburg(at)ix.netcom.com ([email]dougburg(at)ix.netcom.com[/email])> wrote:
Propose vote for DIAS with this next adjudication
Sichaun
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WWIV w12 builds! (dc195) DamienThryn Mar 31, 11:23 pm |
Which Americans? The one against a wall in the east and south, the one against a wall in the west and south, or the one who is veeeeerrrrry big but can't solo on North America alone and is thus also against a bloody wall?
On Tue, Mar 31, 2009 at 6:52 PM, Jorge Saralegui <jmsaralegui(at)gmail.com ([email]jmsaralegui(at)gmail.com[/email])> wrote:
Propose it, but I'll vote against it for the foreseeable future. I don't bail out of a game the first time I hit a wall. In fact, I can't wait to see what happens now that you have to face the Americans. Given how you fared against little old Turkey, my money is on the red, white and blue!
Jorge
Turkey
On Tue, Mar 31, 2009 at 6:43 PM, Doug Burgoyne <dougburg(at)ix.netcom.com ([email]dougburg(at)ix.netcom.com[/email])> wrote:
[quote:55b4ded361]Propose vote for DIAS with this next adjudication
Sichaun
[/quote:55b4ded361] |
WWIV w12 builds! (dc195) txurce Mar 31, 11:26 pm |
If you're the one in the east, then definitely not you.
On Tue, Mar 31, 2009 at 9:22 PM, Andrew Tanner <damienthryn(at)gmail.com ([email]damienthryn(at)gmail.com[/email])> wrote:
Which Americans? The one against a wall in the east and south, the one against a wall in the west and south, or the one who is veeeeerrrrry big but can't solo on North America alone and is thus also against a bloody wall?
On Tue, Mar 31, 2009 at 6:52 PM, Jorge Saralegui <jmsaralegui(at)gmail.com ([email]jmsaralegui(at)gmail.com[/email])> wrote:
[quote:0a035cec9b] Propose it, but I'll vote against it for the foreseeable future. I don't bail out of a game the first time I hit a wall. In fact, I can't wait to see what happens now that you have to face the Americans. Given how you fared against little old Turkey, my money is on the red, white and blue!
Jorge
Turkey
On Tue, Mar 31, 2009 at 6:43 PM, Doug Burgoyne <dougburg(at)ix.netcom.com ([email]dougburg(at)ix.netcom.com[/email])> wrote:
[quote:0a035cec9b]Propose vote for DIAS with this next adjudication
Sichaun
[/quote:0a035cec9b]
[/quote:0a035cec9b] |
WWIV w12 builds! (dc195) dougburg Mar 31, 11:41 pm |
actually there are FIVE living "American" players left in the game.
California, Midwest, New England, Argentina, and Brazil. Three from North
America and two from South America.
But of course, the Turkish player is a totally culturally illiterate pompous
ass, probably a "North American", from the United States that thinks waving
a red, white and blue flag somehow makes one better, smarter or stronger
than some one from another country. Of course is DOES make one more
arrogant, certainly.
It's the Chinese that will inherit the earth. We have culture and patience.
Our society was here thousands of years before you and will dominate you for
thousands of years in the future.
Zai jian yi ge mei gou ren
Sichuan
Which Americans? The one against a wall in the east and south, the one
against a wall in the west and south, or the one who is veeeeerrrrry big
but
can't solo on North America alone and is thus also against a bloody wall?
On Tue, Mar 31, 2009 at 6:52 PM, Jorge Saralegui
<jmsaralegui(at)gmail.com>wrote:
[quote:29e62ff8c5]Propose it, but I'll vote against it for the foreseeable future. I don't
bail out of a game the first time I hit a wall. In fact, I can't wait to
see what happens now that you have to face the Americans. Given how you
fared against little old Turkey, my money is on the red, white and blue!
Jorge
Turkey
On Tue, Mar 31, 2009 at 6:43 PM, Doug Burgoyne
<dougburg(at)ix.netcom.com>wrote:
[quote:29e62ff8c5]Propose vote for DIAS with this next adjudication
Sichaun
[/quote:29e62ff8c5][/quote:29e62ff8c5] |
WWIV w12 builds! (dc195) cl2849 Apr 01, 12:09 am |
"We have culture and patience."
http://chinadigitaltimes.net/2009/03/footage-of-beatings-of-tibet-protesters-released/
I, for one, welcome our new American overlords. Watch out for that
devious Sichaun.
On Tue, Mar 31, 2009 at 9:39 PM, Doug Burgoyne <dougburg(at)ix.netcom.com> wrote:
actually there are FIVE living "American" players left in the game.
California, Midwest, New England, Argentina, and Brazil. Three from North
America and two from South America.
But of course, the Turkish player is a totally culturally illiterate pompous
ass, probably a "North American", from the United States that thinks waving
a red, white and blue flag somehow makes one better, smarter or stronger
than some one from another country. Of course is DOES make one more
arrogant, certainly.
It's the Chinese that will inherit the earth. We have culture and patience.
Our society was here thousands of years before you and will dominate you for
thousands of years in the future.
Zai jian yi ge mei gou ren
Sichuan
[quote:3279846585]Which Americans? The one against a wall in the east and south, the one
against a wall in the west and south, or the one who is veeeeerrrrry big
but
can't solo on North America alone and is thus also against a bloody wall?
On Tue, Mar 31, 2009 at 6:52 PM, Jorge Saralegui
<jmsaralegui(at)gmail.com>wrote:
[quote:3279846585]Propose it, but I'll vote against it for the foreseeable future. I don't
bail out of a game the first time I hit a wall. In fact, I can't wait to
see what happens now that you have to face the Americans. Given how you
fared against little old Turkey, my money is on the red, white and blue!
Jorge
Turkey
On Tue, Mar 31, 2009 at 6:43 PM, Doug Burgoyne
<dougburg(at)ix.netcom.com>wrote:
[quote:3279846585]Propose vote for DIAS with this next adjudication
Sichaun
[/quote:3279846585]
[/quote:3279846585]
[/quote:3279846585] |
WWIV w12 builds! (dc195) dougburg Apr 01, 12:13 am |
Ah, but those Tibetan rebels are undermining the order of the "correct" way
of cultural thinking, just like those twisted green Chinese were trying to
do! (so we had to beat them with a stick)
"We have culture and patience."
http://chinadigitaltimes.net/2009/03/footage-of-beatings-of-tibet-protesters-released/
I, for one, welcome our new American overlords. Watch out for that
devious Sichaun.
On Tue, Mar 31, 2009 at 9:39 PM, Doug Burgoyne <dougburg(at)ix.netcom.com>
wrote:
actually there are FIVE living "American" players left in the game.
California, Midwest, New England, Argentina, and Brazil. Three from North
America and two from South America.
But of course, the Turkish player is a totally culturally illiterate
pompous
ass, probably a "North American", from the United States that thinks
waving
a red, white and blue flag somehow makes one better, smarter or stronger
than some one from another country. Of course is DOES make one more
arrogant, certainly.
It's the Chinese that will inherit the earth. We have culture and
patience.
Our society was here thousands of years before you and will dominate you
for
thousands of years in the future.
Zai jian yi ge mei gou ren
Sichuan
[quote:4858a1d1d2]Which Americans? The one against a wall in the east and south, the one
against a wall in the west and south, or the one who is veeeeerrrrry big
but
can't solo on North America alone and is thus also against a bloody wall?
On Tue, Mar 31, 2009 at 6:52 PM, Jorge Saralegui
<jmsaralegui(at)gmail.com>wrote:
[quote:4858a1d1d2]Propose it, but I'll vote against it for the foreseeable future. I don't
bail out of a game the first time I hit a wall. In fact, I can't wait to
see what happens now that you have to face the Americans. Given how you
fared against little old Turkey, my money is on the red, white and blue!
Jorge
Turkey
On Tue, Mar 31, 2009 at 6:43 PM, Doug Burgoyne
<dougburg(at)ix.netcom.com>wrote:
[quote:4858a1d1d2]Propose vote for DIAS with this next adjudication
Sichaun
[/quote:4858a1d1d2]
[/quote:4858a1d1d2]
[/quote:4858a1d1d2] |
WWIV w12 builds! (dc195) txurce Apr 01, 01:54 am |
I'm talking about the two Americans just off your eastern shores, whiz kid. That you couldn't figure that out doesn't say much for your prospects against them. As it happens, I'm not a 'North American from the United States.' Learn how to differentiate between the game and RL.
Turkey
On Tue, Mar 31, 2009 at 9:39 PM, Doug Burgoyne <dougburg(at)ix.netcom.com ([email]dougburg(at)ix.netcom.com[/email])> wrote:
actually there are FIVE living "American" players left in the game.
California, Midwest, New England, Argentina, and Brazil. Three from North America and two from South America.
But of course, the Turkish player is a totally culturally illiterate pompous ass, probably a "North American", from the United States that thinks waving a red, white and blue flag somehow makes one better, smarter or stronger than some one from another country. Of course is DOES make one more arrogant, certainly.
It's the Chinese that will inherit the earth. We have culture and patience. Our society was here thousands of years before you and will dominate you for thousands of years in the future.
Zai jian yi ge mei gou ren
Sichuan
[quote:037df94e0c] Which Americans? The one against a wall in the east and south, the one
against a wall in the west and south, or the one who is veeeeerrrrry big but
can't solo on North America alone and is thus also against a bloody wall?
On Tue, Mar 31, 2009 at 6:52 PM, Jorge Saralegui <jmsaralegui(at)gmail.com ([email]jmsaralegui(at)gmail.com[/email])>wrote:
[quote:037df94e0c] Propose it, but I'll vote against it for the foreseeable future. I don't
bail out of a game the first time I hit a wall. In fact, I can't wait to
see what happens now that you have to face the Americans. Given how you
fared against little old Turkey, my money is on the red, white and blue!
Jorge
Turkey
On Tue, Mar 31, 2009 at 6:43 PM, Doug Burgoyne <dougburg(at)ix.netcom.com ([email]dougburg(at)ix.netcom.com[/email])>wrote:
[quote:037df94e0c] Propose vote for DIAS with this next adjudication
Sichaun
[/quote:037df94e0c]
[/quote:037df94e0c]
[/quote:037df94e0c] |
WWIV w12 builds! (dc195) greg Apr 01, 02:07 am |
Yaarrrrr,
Seeing the two of you land lubbers fight reminds me o' two sea lions fighting over the best patch of beach while some pup is stealing away with the best ladies.
There's wind yet in this captains sails and as sure as my middle name ain't Cassandra there be treachery in the air. This tale is not at its end till those marked for death have met their fate.
Greg
Filipino Pirate Captain
On Wed, Apr 1, 2009 at 5:53 PM, Jorge Saralegui <jmsaralegui(at)gmail.com ([email]jmsaralegui(at)gmail.com[/email])> wrote:
I'm talking about the two Americans just off your eastern shores, whiz kid. That you couldn't figure that out doesn't say much for your prospects against them. As it happens, I'm not a 'North American from the United States.' Learn how to differentiate between the game and RL.
Turkey
On Tue, Mar 31, 2009 at 9:39 PM, Doug Burgoyne <dougburg(at)ix.netcom.com ([email]dougburg(at)ix.netcom.com[/email])> wrote:
[quote:11add37529]actually there are FIVE living "American" players left in the game.
California, Midwest, New England, Argentina, and Brazil. Three from North America and two from South America.
But of course, the Turkish player is a totally culturally illiterate pompous ass, probably a "North American", from the United States that thinks waving a red, white and blue flag somehow makes one better, smarter or stronger than some one from another country. Of course is DOES make one more arrogant, certainly.
It's the Chinese that will inherit the earth. We have culture and patience. Our society was here thousands of years before you and will dominate you for thousands of years in the future.
Zai jian yi ge mei gou ren
Sichuan
[quote:11add37529] Which Americans? The one against a wall in the east and south, the one
against a wall in the west and south, or the one who is veeeeerrrrry big but
can't solo on North America alone and is thus also against a bloody wall?
On Tue, Mar 31, 2009 at 6:52 PM, Jorge Saralegui <jmsaralegui(at)gmail.com ([email]jmsaralegui(at)gmail.com[/email])>wrote:
[quote:11add37529] Propose it, but I'll vote against it for the foreseeable future. I don't
bail out of a game the first time I hit a wall. In fact, I can't wait to
see what happens now that you have to face the Americans. Given how you
fared against little old Turkey, my money is on the red, white and blue!
Jorge
Turkey
On Tue, Mar 31, 2009 at 6:43 PM, Doug Burgoyne <dougburg(at)ix.netcom.com ([email]dougburg(at)ix.netcom.com[/email])>wrote:
[quote:11add37529] Propose vote for DIAS with this next adjudication
Sichaun
[/quote:11add37529]
[/quote:11add37529]
[/quote:11add37529]
[/quote:11add37529] |
dc210 w09 builds! - FuzzyLogic (Mar 25, 2009, 1:23 pm) |
France has not ordered the 3 retreats, so they are disbanded!
Russia: Build A StP
Britain: Build A Lon, F Lon
(Note there are now 3 units in London)
Another subsequent French NMR will mean France goes into Civil Disorder,
and is out of the game! Mestan, if you've sent me any orders pls
contact me ASAP.
NEXT: Spring 10, due Monday 3/30, 10am Pacific, and then we have
someone going on vacation after that so there's been requested a few
week delay.[Reply] |
DC246 spring 1901 deadline correction - coryfucius (Mar 25, 2009, 1:21 pm) |
Sorry to do this, everyone, but it seems that I missed a week when I looked at my calendar. The corrected spring 1901 deadline is Monday, March 30 at 3pm Central (US) / 20:00 GMT. Please be sure to cc: the Orders box, and I strongly encourage prelims!
Cory[Reply] |
DC215 Winter 1910 Results - MattTheLesser (Mar 25, 2009, 1:10 pm) |
Also don't forget to vote on the DIAS with your orders!
Matt Kremer wrote:
Italy raises an army in Venice, while Germany puts one each in Kiel
and Berlin.
My apologies for not getting this out last night - something was
thrust on to my plate that I was up very late completing. The
unfortunate result is that in in order to be reasonable I have to push
back the deadline for Spring 11, which will be due this coming Monday,
March 30, at 9 pm eastern. BUT remember that if I get orders marked
final from all three of you I will adjudicate on the spot, so mark
them final if you're set!
Matt
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DC215 Winter 1910 Results - MattTheLesser (Mar 25, 2009, 1:09 pm) |
Italy raises an army in Venice, while Germany puts one each in Kiel and
Berlin.
My apologies for not getting this out last night - something was thrust
on to my plate that I was up very late completing. The unfortunate
result is that in in order to be reasonable I have to push back the
deadline for Spring 11, which will be due this coming Monday, March 30,
at 9 pm eastern. BUT remember that if I get orders marked final from all
three of you I will adjudicate on the spot, so mark them final if you're
set!
Matt[Reply] |
DC215 Winter 1910 Results (dc215) MattTheLesser Mar 25, 01:10 pm |
Also don't forget to vote on the DIAS with your orders!
Matt Kremer wrote:
Italy raises an army in Venice, while Germany puts one each in Kiel
and Berlin.
My apologies for not getting this out last night - something was
thrust on to my plate that I was up very late completing. The
unfortunate result is that in in order to be reasonable I have to push
back the deadline for Spring 11, which will be due this coming Monday,
March 30, at 9 pm eastern. BUT remember that if I get orders marked
final from all three of you I will adjudicate on the spot, so mark
them final if you're set!
Matt
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DC219, Wake up now :) - m_don_j (Mar 25, 2009, 12:41 pm) |
Fellow players,
Luckily for most of you, one player asked for an extension. Lucky I say, since I only got 1 set this far. Deadline has been extended by 24 hours, 20:00:00 GMT Tomorrow Thursday. As always, if I get them all in without the magic word prelims, then I'l lrun the turn early.
/ Mikael
Hitta bästa boräntan! MSN Privatekonomi[Reply] |