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Dc199 - 23 hour warning - deathblade_penguin   (Dec 28, 2008, 3:18 am)
Dc199 Winter 1909 Monday 29th December

All moves in, my loyal and deadlining hitting friends Smile

Adjudication in 22 hours 43 minutes

(I'm in an odd mood)


Steve


Stephen Lytton
Knight of the Rose
www.diplomaticcorp.com




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DC 225 Found New Italy! - FLTeacher   (Dec 27, 2008, 9:15 pm)
Welcome and thank you, Eugene.

Anthony (France).

On Sat, Dec 27, 2008 at 9:31 PM, Alan Farrington <alley_cat_1990(at)hotmail.com ([email]alley_cat_1990(at)hotmail.com[/email])> wrote:

I want you to all give a warm welcome to Eugene who has quickly stepped in to take over the Italy spot replacing Mike Cassel.

First: Eugene
Last : SL
Email: icarusflier(at)gmail.com ([email]icarusflier(at)gmail.com[/email])
Yahoo: CobraCommander

I've set the "official" deadline for Thursday January 1st, and I will accept re-written orders up until I adjudicate. but I will send out the adjudication as soon as I get Eugene's orders!

Thanks all,
Alan Farringotn

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DC 225 Found New Italy! - AlanRFarrington   (Dec 27, 2008, 8:32 pm)
I want you to all give a warm welcome to Eugene who has quickly stepped in to take over the Italy spot replacing Mike Cassel.

First: Eugene
Last : SL
Email: icarusflier(at)gmail.com
Yahoo: CobraCommander

I've set the "official" deadline for Thursday January 1st, and I will accept re-written orders up until I adjudicate. but I will send out the adjudication as soon as I get Eugene's orders!

Thanks all,
Alan Farringotn
Life on your PC is safer, easier, and more enjoyable with Windows Vista®. See how

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DC 225 Found New Italy! (dc225) FLTeacher Dec 27, 09:15 pm
Welcome and thank you, Eugene.

Anthony (France).

On Sat, Dec 27, 2008 at 9:31 PM, Alan Farrington <alley_cat_1990(at)hotmail.com ([email]alley_cat_1990(at)hotmail.com[/email])> wrote:

I want you to all give a warm welcome to Eugene who has quickly stepped in to take over the Italy spot replacing Mike Cassel.

First: Eugene
Last : SL
Email: icarusflier(at)gmail.com ([email]icarusflier(at)gmail.com[/email])
Yahoo: CobraCommander

I've set the "official" deadline for Thursday January 1st, and I will accept re-written orders up until I adjudicate. but I will send out the adjudication as soon as I get Eugene's orders!

Thanks all,
Alan Farringotn

Life on your PC is safer, easier, and more enjoyable with Windows Vista®. See how

DC 220 Please Welcome the New Russia! - Verticallychallangedcutie   (Dec 27, 2008, 7:03 pm)
Folks,
We have a new Russian player! Please welcome Andy ( The White Wolf ) to the game. Below is an updated player list along with a new deadline to give Andy some time to talk to everyone!

Players:

Players:
Austria - Jason Beck: <jasonmbeck(at)gmail.com >
England - Alexander Kossoff: <akossoff(at)gmail.com >
France - Benjy Aarons: <finchleywomble(at)hotmail.com >
Germany - Josh Mayo: <zauberlichneo(at)hotmail.com >
Italy - Alfred Nicol: <alfred.nicol(at)virgin.net >
Russia - The White Wolf <cloudhurler77(at)yahoo.com>
Turkey - Michael Thompson: <psychosis(at)sky.com

Deadline:

The deadline for Spring 1903 is set for Mon Jan 5th at 7pm EST ( 11pm GMT ).

-Rachael

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DC 212 Welcome the New Austria! - Verticallychallangedcutie   (Dec 27, 2008, 6:55 pm)
Guys,
We have a new Austria! I am still working to replace Russia. If we do not have anyone sign up for the spot by Wed I will figure something out or place the country in CD. I haven't yet decided. Welcome Charles Kim to the game. His email address is below!

Players:

Austria: Charles Kim <closed.sunday(at)gmail.com>
England: Greg Neilsen <yeeha77(at)yahoo.com>
France: Patrick Canning <patrick.t.canning(at)gmail.com>
Germany: Former Trout <former.trout(at)gmail.com>
Italy: Jimmy Ghostine <Jimmy.Ghostine(at)vtmednet.org>
Russia:
Turkey: Andrew Ott <drew3739o(at)yahoo.com>

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DC 220 Mix up - Verticallychallangedcutie   (Dec 27, 2008, 6:54 pm)
Folks,
It appears that I have gotten my games mixed up. This was supposed to be sent to my DC 212 game. I am really sorry...it's been a long week..

-Rachael

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DC 212 Welcome Letter! - Verticallychallangedcutie   (Dec 27, 2008, 6:48 pm)
Guys,
We have a new Austria! I am still working to replace Russia. If we do not have anyone sign up for the spot by Wed I will figure something out or place the country in CD. I haven't yet decided. Welcome Charles Kim to the game. His email address is below!

Players:

Austria: Charles Kim <closed.sunday(at)gmail.com>
England: Greg Neilsen <yeeha77(at)yahoo.com>
France: Patrick Canning <patrick.t.canning(at)gmail.com>
Germany: Former Trout <former.trout(at)gmail.com>
Italy: Jimmy Ghostine <Jimmy.Ghostine(at)vtmednet.org>
Russia:
Turkey: Andrew Ott <drew3739o(at)yahoo.com>

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DC 220 Delay...yet again - Verticallychallangedcutie   (Dec 27, 2008, 6:42 pm)
Folks,
Mike Cassel our Russia has just written me and asked to be replaced in the game. He thought he had time to play in games but has realized that he does not. So I am on the search for a new Russia. I am really sorry about all the delays and I am working on fixing thing.

-Rachael

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DC 220 Delay...yet again (dc220) Verticallychallangedcutie Jan 07, 11:13 pm
Folks,
Our Italy did not turn in orders nor did he respond to either of my emails that I have written him in the past two days. I am assuming that he no longer wants to play and am seeking a replacement. As soon as I find a replacement player I'll get the game going again.

-Rachael
DC 225 - AlanRFarrington   (Dec 27, 2008, 3:46 pm)
Sorry Guys,
Michael Cassel in Italy has just informed me that he doesn't have enough time to devote to this game. I'll be withdrawing him and looking for a replacement.

Again, sorry for the delay,
Alan Farrington
Life on your PC is safer, easier, and more enjoyable with Windows Vista®. See how

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DC215 Winter 1904 Results - Kenshi777   (Dec 27, 2008, 2:37 pm)
Fellow DC 215 players and GM -

I apologize for any delayed replies to email lately, I am backlogged by about a hundred messages. As some of you may know, I'm currently transitioning from active duty US Army to the Reserves, and moving from my current station in Germany to our new home in Dallas, Texas. I may lose internet access intermittently during that time, depending upon availability of places I can log on. My service at home ends tomorrow, and I will be moving out within the week. I do not need to do so yet, but I may need to ask for a deadline extension until I get settled in Texas, which should be second week of January or so. Thanks for your patience -

Trout - this may also affect my ability to start the January DC tournament and the dwprep demo game on time, but I will do all I can to avoid that. You'll notice that means I'm playing in 3 DC games and 0 ACD ones at the moment - looks like you might make a convert out of me yet Smile

B. of Italia


On Sun, Dec 21, 2008 at 10:37 AM, Matt Kremer <matthew.kremer(at)yale.edu ([email]matthew.kremer(at)yale.edu[/email])> wrote:

We'll take a break for Christmas and set the next deadline for a week from Monday, December 29, at 9 pm eastern. Let me know if anyone has holiday plans that conflict with this.

Matt

Adjustments:
England:
Remove F Clyde

Germany:
Build A Berlin

Italy:
Build A Venice

Turkey:
Build A Smyrna




--
www.geocities.com/nairenvorbeck/files
Realpolitik files available here for the Sengoku, Balkans1860, South American Supremacy, and DarkAges Diplomacy Variants

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DC222 Two Steps To Anarchy - Grinches In Spring - former.trout   (Dec 27, 2008, 10:19 am)
Heya folks,

Hope that you all had an excellent holiday and a wonderful Christmas. Have to say, though, that some of you definitely acted the Grinch in this one. Nothing says Christmas like total annhilation... =P


I'm bending my NMR philosophy as well, just for this game. Based on the title reference to Anarchy, I'd be kind of a tool if I didn't allow Civil Disorder. And so, with a second straight NMR, our Austrian friends find themselves slipping into that wonderful state of revolt. Thanks to Russia and Italy, however, it is a situation that will probably not last that long.


One retreat required in the north - owed by the English fleet in Norway. The deadline for Summer 02 will be set for Monday, December 29th (11:59 PM GMT).


Please review the results and let me know if you spot any errors. There were copious amounts of wine drunk in the Trout household last night, and while I'm pretty sure everything is correct you never know what the sauce might do. =P


Cheers!


Saucy Trout




Movement results for Spring of 1902. (DC222 02 SPR)


Austria: A Budapest, no move received (*Disbanded*).
Austria: A Trieste, no move received (*Disbanded*).


England: A Belgium Hold (*Disbanded*).
England: F Edinburgh - North Sea (*Fails*).
England: F London - English Channel (*Bounce*).
England: F North Sea - Helgoland Bight (*Bounce*).
England: F Norway Supports F Baltic Sea - Sweden (*Dislodged*).


France: F Brest - English Channel (*Bounce*).
France: A Burgundy - Belgium.
France: A Paris - Picardy.
France: A Portugal - Spain.
France: F Spain(sc) - Mid-Atlantic Ocean.


Germany: F Berlin - Baltic Sea.
Germany: A Holland Supports A Burgundy - Belgium.
Germany: F Kiel - Helgoland Bight (*Bounce*).
Germany: A Munich - Ruhr.
Germany: F Sweden - Norway.


Italy: F Naples - Ionian Sea.
Italy: F Tunis Hold.
Italy: A Tyrolia Supports A Venice - Trieste.
Italy: A Venice - Trieste.
Italy: A Vienna Supports A Galicia - Budapest.


Russia: F Baltic Sea - Sweden.
Russia: A Galicia - Budapest.
Russia: A Rumania Supports A Galicia - Budapest (*Cut*).
Russia: F Sevastopol Supports A Rumania.
Russia: A St Petersburg Supports F Sweden - Norway.


Turkey: F Ankara - Armenia.
Turkey: F Black Sea - Rumania (*Fails*).
Turkey: A Bulgaria - Greece.
Turkey: A Constantinople - Bulgaria.


The following units were dislodged:


English F Norway can retreat to Barents Sea or Norwegian Sea or Skagerrak.


Unit locations:


Austria: A Budapest, A Trieste.
England: A Belgium, F Edinburgh, F London, F North Sea, F Norway.
France: A Belgium, F Brest, F Mid-Atlantic Ocean, A Picardy, A Spain.
Germany: F Baltic Sea, A Holland, F Kiel, F Norway, A Ruhr.
Italy: F Ionian Sea, A Trieste, F Tunis, A Tyrolia, A Vienna.
Russia: A Budapest, A Rumania, F Sevastopol, A St Petersburg, F Sweden.
Turkey: F Armenia, F Black Sea, A Bulgaria, A Greece.


Ownership of supply centers:


Austria: Budapest, Trieste.
England: Belgium, Edinburgh, Liverpool, London, Norway.
France: Brest, Marseilles, Paris, Portugal, Spain.
Germany: Berlin, Holland, Kiel, Munich, Sweden.
Italy: Naples, Rome, Tunis, Venice, Vienna.
Russia: Moscow, Rumania, Sevastopol, St Petersburg, Warsaw.
Turkey: Ankara, Bulgaria, Constantinople, Smyrna.
Unowned: Denmark, Greece, Serbia.


Austria: 2 Supply centers, 2 Units: Builds 0 units.
England: 5 Supply centers, 5 Units: Builds 0 units.
France: 5 Supply centers, 5 Units: Builds 0 units.
Germany: 5 Supply centers, 5 Units: Builds 0 units.
Italy: 5 Supply centers, 5 Units: Builds 0 units.
Russia: 5 Supply centers, 5 Units: Builds 0 units.
Turkey: 4 Supply centers, 4 Units: Builds 0 units.




NEXT DEADLINE: SUMMER 1902 RETREATS DUE MONDAY, DECEMBER 29TH (11:59 PM GMT)!!

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Dc199 - 48 hours - deathblade_penguin   (Dec 27, 2008, 5:48 am)
Dc199ers

There is approximately 45 hours to winter deadline. I am missing one player's moves.


Stephen Lytton
Knight of the Rose
www.diplomaticcorp.com




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DC 22o SOOO SORRY - Corrected Adjudication - Verticallychallangedcutie   (Dec 26, 2008, 10:42 pm)
Folks,
England did not in fact NBR!. For some reason realpolitk did not save them when I input them. So here is the corrected Adjudication with the corrected map!

Players:
Austria - Jason Beck: <jasonmbeck(at)gmail.com >
England - Alexander Kossoff: <akossoff(at)gmail.com >
France - Benjy Aarons: <finchleywomble(at)hotmail.com >
Germany - Josh Mayo: <zauberlichneo(at)hotmail.com >
Italy - Alfred Nicol: <alfred.nicol(at)virgin.net >
Russia - Mike Cassel <mc3358a(at)student.american.edu>
Turkey - Michael Thompson: <psychosis(at)sky.com

Orders:

Austria:
Build A Trieste

England:
Build F Edinburgh
Build F London

France:
Build F Marseilles

Deadline:
Let's shoot for Spring 1903 for Fri Jan 2nd at 7pm EST ( 11pm GMT ). Map and dpy file are attached!

-Rachael

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DC 225 Slight Delay - AlanRFarrington   (Dec 26, 2008, 10:35 pm)
Hey Guys,
Sorry for no adjudication tonight, I just received one set of orders and am waiting for the last one to come in.

Alan Farrington
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dc186 (Late) Chinese EOG - TheWhiteWolf   (Dec 26, 2008, 9:04 pm)
Folks,
I know this is late in coming, but I haven't seen any other EOGs, so I guess better late than never.
First, I'd like to thank Christine for taking me in as a 'replacement' (even before the first shots were fired) - this was the first Colonial game I've ever played, and it was a blast.
Congratulations to my allies at the end for a job well done and a draw well won.
I started off this game in a shaky alliance with Russia. We managed to hold things together for a while, but I guess the long open border was too much temptation for him. The TSR was trouble for me, of course, but coming back was easier with such stalwart allies as Holland and Turkey.
I don't think I need to go into much detail, but I wanted to specifically thank Aidan and Jacob for sticking with me even through my time as an alleged patsy of Russia.
Hugh, you were an extremely frustrating person to attempt diplomacy with. I wish you luck int he future, but I suggest you try to work with people, instead of dictating to them.
Jason, I had a lot of fun in this game, and I hope I have the chance to cross swords with you again soon. You're a great ally and a formidable opponent.
Jerry, I'm sure we could have done significant damage if I'd stayed faithful to you, but as you said after my stab, those Twinkies looked awfully tempting.
Christine, you run a tight ship (which I respect a lot.) I got smacked a couple times for delinquency, but I can't say it's changed my attention span for the better... Thanks for such a great job on this one.

Fondest Regards,
The White Wolf

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DC-227 Winter 1913 Deadline Announcement - TheWhiteWolf   (Dec 26, 2008, 7:31 pm)
Folks,
I may as well make a public announcement, instead of mentioning this to each individual player... I am generally a stickler for the rules, but in the case of winter negotiations, I try to mind my own business. I know the rules for the variant specifically state that no negotiations should take place before the winter deadline, and I backed that up in an earlier email. However, I'm not terribly concerned about this.
If you're going to talk to each other, talk all you like. I'm not about to rearrange country assignments or try to find a way to punish players for doing nothing wrong.

Have fun,
The White Wolf

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DC 220 Winter 02 Results - Verticallychallangedcutie   (Dec 26, 2008, 7:31 pm)
Folks,
So sorry about not getting these out to you guys. The holidays were crazy over here and I had some drama go on in my other game that I had to take care of. Without further ado here's the turn.

Players:
Austria - Jason Beck: <jasonmbeck(at)gmail.com >
England - Alexander Kossoff: <akossoff(at)gmail.com >
France - Benjy Aarons: <finchleywomble(at)hotmail.com >
Germany - Josh Mayo: <zauberlichneo(at)hotmail.com >
Italy - Alfred Nicol: <alfred.nicol(at)virgin.net >
Russia - Mike Cassel <mc3358a(at)student.american.edu>
Turkey - Michael Thompson: <psychosis(at)sky.com


Orders:

Austria:
Build A Trieste

England:
Build
Build

France:
Build F Marseilles

Deadline:
Let's shoot for Spring 1903 for Fri Jan 2nd at 7pm EST ( 11pm GMT ). Map and dpy file are attached!

-Rachael

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DC 218 SHIFT LEFT: GAME ON!!! FALL 1902 due 1... - packrat   (Dec 26, 2008, 7:08 pm)
Our new Germany player is Jason Leonard. The current map and RP file are attached, orders are
due 1/5/09 at 2100 EST. If I have all orders in and marked final I will adjudicate earlier.

Now, let's see if we can make it through a game year without having to replace someone.

France: Stephen Worthy
Russia: Matt Kremer
Italy: Andy Jameson
Germany: Jason Leonard
Austria: Graham Allen
Turkey: Jack McHugh
England: Steve Caponigri

Emails and other information:

ID : Kylac
Ctry : Germany
Name : Jason Leonard
Email : the_master642(at)yahoo.com
Location : Massachusetts, USA

ID : TheWhiteWolf
Ctry : Italy
Name : Andrew Jameson
Email : cloudhurler77(at)yahoo.com ([email]cloudhurler77(at)yahoo.com[/email])
Location : Georgia, US

ID : FlapJack
Ctry : Turkey
Name : Jack McHugh
Email : jwmchughjr(at)gmail.com ([email]jwmchughjr(at)gmail.com[/email])
Location : Westville, NJ, US

ID : scaponig
Ctry : England
Name : Steve Caponigri
Email : scaponig(at)yahoo.com
Location : Chicago, IL

ID : stephen_worthy
Ctry : France
Name : Stephen Worthy
Email : stephen(at)worthy1.fsnet.co.uk ([email]stephen(at)worthy1.fsnet.co.uk[/email])
Location : London, GLONDON, UK

ID : gman
Ctry : Austria
Name : Graham allen
Email : g_mod23(at)hotmail.com ([email]g_mod23(at)hotmail.com[/email])
Location : Australia

ID : unitedfan1389
Ctry : Russia
Name : Matt Kremer
Email : matthew.kremer(at)yale.edu ([email]matthew.kremer(at)yale.edu[/email])
Location : New Haven, CT, US

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DC 218 SHIFT LEFT: GAME ON!!! FALL 1902 due 1/05/09 at 2100 EST (dc218) packrat Jan 02, 07:56 am
Just a reminder - orders are due Monday at 2100 EST.

I do NOT have all sets


From: Packrat <brn2dip(at)yahoo.com>
To: Packrat <brn2dip(at)yahoo.com>; the_master642(at)yahoo.com; The White Wolf <cloudhurler77(at)yahoo.com>; jwmchughjr(at)gmail.com; Stephen Worthy <stephen(at)worthy1.fsnet.co.uk>; g_mod23(at)hotmail.com; matthew.kremer(at)yale.edu; scaponig(at)yahoo.com
Cc: Former Trout <former.trout(at)gmail.com>; dc218(at)diplomaticcorp.com; Steve Lytton <stevelytton(at)gmail.com>; mike(at)southwall.com; stevelytton(at)hotmail.com
Sent: Friday, December 26, 2008 8:07:39 PM
Subject: DC 218 SHIFT LEFT: GAME ON!!! FALL 1902 due 1/05/09 at 2100 EST


Our new Germany player is Jason Leonard. The current map and RP file are attached, orders are
due 1/5/09 at 2100 EST. If I have all orders in and marked final I will adjudicate earlier.

Now, let's see if we can make it through a game year without having to replace someone.

France: Stephen Worthy
Russia: Matt Kremer
Italy: Andy Jameson
Germany: Jason Leonard
Austria: Graham Allen
Turkey: Jack McHugh
England: Steve Caponigri

Emails and other information:

ID : Kylac
Ctry : Germany
Name : Jason Leonard
Email : the_master642(at)yahoo.com
Location : Massachusetts, USA

ID : TheWhiteWolf
Ctry : Italy
Name : Andrew Jameson
Email : cloudhurler77(at)yahoo.com ([email]cloudhurler77(at)yahoo.com[/email])
Location : Georgia, US

ID : FlapJack
Ctry : Turkey
Name : Jack McHugh
Email : jwmchughjr(at)gmail.com ([email]jwmchughjr(at)gmail.com[/email])
Location : Westville, NJ, US

ID : scaponig
Ctry : England
Name : Steve Caponigri
Email : scaponig(at)yahoo.com
Location : Chicago, IL

ID : stephen_worthy
Ctry : France
Name : Stephen Worthy
Email : stephen(at)worthy1.fsnet.co.uk ([email]stephen(at)worthy1.fsnet.co.uk[/email])
Location : London, GLONDON, UK

ID : gman
Ctry : Austria
Name : Graham allen
Email : g_mod23(at)hotmail.com ([email]g_mod23(at)hotmail.com[/email])
Location : Australia

ID : unitedfan1389
Ctry : Russia
Name : Matt Kremer
Email : matthew.kremer(at)yale.edu ([email]matthew.kremer(at)yale.edu[/email])
Location : New Haven, CT, US
DC-227 Winter 1913 Deadline Announcement - zeclient   (Dec 26, 2008, 5:44 pm)
Seconded!

Nick



Date: Fri, 26 Dec 2008 12:40:59 -0500
From: jwmchughjr(at)gmail.com
To: cloudhurler77(at)yahoo.com
Subject: Re: DC-227 Winter 1913 Deadline Announcement
CC: zeclient(at)hotmail.com; mistro914(at)gmail.com; scaponig(at)yahoo.com; dc227(at)diplomaticcorp.com; stevelytton(at)hotmail.com; drew3739o(at)yahoo.com; babaktalebi(at)gmail.com; former.trout(at)gmail.com; mdemagogue(at)gmail.com

hi all,

a few players in this game start have written me but since since the GM has asked (and the variant rules plainly state) that we should not engage in any diploamacy until AFTER the 1913 winter builds are publshed therefore i will not read any notes sent to me or write my own letter of introduction after winter 1913 builds are published. i would ask that this not prejudice you against me any way nor preclude any possible alliances with me or help form any against me...

wolfie, can we have a deadline after the builds at least as long as this one once we can talk? thanks...

flapjack of austria


On Wed, Dec 24, 2008 at 10:54 PM, The White Wolf <cloudhurler77(at)yahoo.com ([email]cloudhurler77(at)yahoo.com[/email])> wrote:

Folks,
I concur that these builds should be done quickly and without prior negotiations. I've already got four sets of builds in, so let's do it this way:
For those of you with builds already in, make sure you have your final set in as soon as possible (if you wish to change.) For those of you without builds in, get them in to me as quickly as you can.
Once I have all seven sets in, I'll adjudicate. I won't send out results any earlier than Monday, 29 December at 2pm EST (7pm GMT,) in order to give everybody who's already sent me builds a fair chance to change if they wish. I'll set the final deadline for New Year's Day at the same time.
I reserve the right to adjudicate any time in that window, if I get a set in from everybody. Don't be late!

The White Wolf

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DC219, Map and Reminder - m_don_j   (Dec 26, 2008, 1:47 pm)
Heya folks!

Here is ze map, as promised.

Deadline is: January 2, 2009, 20:00:00 Gmt.

Prelims are encouraged.

Happy holidays!

/ Mikael


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dc 197 Winter 1905 - Kai   (Dec 26, 2008, 12:05 pm)
Reminder guys- Orders are due by 23:00 GMT Today. Missing some still.

On Sat, Dec 20, 2008 at 4:40 PM, Jackson Foster <jrobfoster(at)gmail.com ([email]jrobfoster(at)gmail.com[/email])> wrote:


Right map+

On Fri, Dec 19, 2008 at 4:47 PM, Jackson Foster <jrobfoster(at)gmail.com ([email]jrobfoster(at)gmail.com[/email])> wrote:
[quote:4e7afa7e7c]That map is still wrong. I will send out the new one when I get home tonight. Sorry all, it is an Austrian fleet in TRI jsut to remind everyone.


On Thu, Dec 18, 2008 at 3:12 PM, Jackson Foster <jrobfoster(at)gmail.com ([email]jrobfoster(at)gmail.com[/email])> wrote:
[quote:4e7afa7e7c]Hey guys,

The ruling stands as is. I interpreted it as farthest away from the home centers, as did RealPolitik. There was a mess up on my part however, Austria is right and it should be a Fleet in Tri. I read it horribly wrong and have no idea why. >_< Correct map is attached. And it seems everyone is ok with the deadline as is?


Kai


On Thu, Dec 18, 2008 at 12:07 AM, Packrat <brn2dip(at)yahoo.com ([email]brn2dip(at)yahoo.com[/email])> wrote:
[quote:4e7afa7e7c] FWIW - I agree. On all points.

You might also want to consider something at the top of the houserules
stating what edition was used in drafting the rules. The URL you had
in the other email would be good to put up there as well.


From: Former Trout <former.trout(at)gmail.com ([email]former.trout(at)gmail.com[/email])>

To: Kevin Lynch <klynch427(at)hotmail.com ([email]klynch427(at)hotmail.com[/email])>
Cc: Germany Diplomacy <brn2dip(at)yahoo.com ([email]brn2dip(at)yahoo.com[/email])>; Turkey DC 197 <kodiplomacy(at)gmail.com ([email]kodiplomacy(at)gmail.com[/email])>; Jackson Foster <jrobfoster(at)gmail.com ([email]jrobfoster(at)gmail.com[/email])>; Stephen Lytton <stevelytton(at)hotmail.com ([email]stevelytton(at)hotmail.com[/email])>; Vincent France Diplomacy <vincentdecattoire(at)yahoo.fr ([email]vincentdecattoire(at)yahoo.fr[/email])>; Joe/Italy Diplomacy <josepayne(at)gmail.com ([email]josepayne(at)gmail.com[/email])>; Trevor/England Diplomacy <rtbaillie(at)hotmail.com ([email]rtbaillie(at)hotmail.com[/email])>; dc197(at)diplomaticcorp.com ([email]dc197(at)diplomaticcorp.com[/email])
Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2008 12:02:17 AM

Subject: Re: dc 197 Winter 1905




Guys,

Having taken part in creating the default HRs I can assure everyone that it was never the intention to create a set of rules that conflicted with the Standard Diplomacy rules.


The quote I just pasted from the rules says essentially the same thing as our house rules do - only our HRs throw in the SC condition as well. Instead of a bullet-point list, the standard rulebook just wrote it into a paragraph.


The bullet-point list is only to eliminate options to reduce the auto-disband to a single choice. All four conditions should be viewed as a set and taken together.


The final word is up to Jackson, of course. But the rule-book says that he made the right call, the HRs say that he made the right call and as the player whose unit it is I agree with it as well.


T.

On Wed, Dec 17, 2008 at 9:49 PM, Kevin Lynch <klynch427(at)hotmail.com ([email]klynch427(at)hotmail.com[/email])> wrote:
[quote:4e7afa7e7c] Wow - lots of emails in my inbox tonight. 2 comments.

1) I actually requested a Fleet in Trieste. I've re-sent that email to the GM, not sure how I ended up with an Army in TRI instead.

2) I'm not sure I quite understand the "take the rules as a whole" argument. Don't you use alphabetically only as the last resort? And don't you use fleet over army only as the next-to-last resort? It would make more sense to me to keep a unit in a supply center, so I'd think that comes first. In which case, BLA should be disbanded and not MUN. I don't really care too much how this ends up, but that is the outcome that makes the most sense to me.

Austrian Kevin

Date: Wed, 17 Dec 2008 20:37:22 -0800
From: brn2dip(at)yahoo.com ([email]brn2dip(at)yahoo.com[/email])
Subject: Re: dc 197 Winter 1905

To: former.trout(at)gmail.com ([email]former.trout(at)gmail.com[/email])
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A fleet in SYR cannot go through ARM. If it said shortest distance I would agree.

Oh, wait - these are DC rules - the hell with the game rules.


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Sent: Wednesday, December 17, 2008 11:33:22 PM
Subject: Re: dc 197 Winter 1905

Right on. So we agree. =)

On Wed, Dec 17, 2008 at 9:32 PM, Packrat <brn2dip(at)yahoo.com ([email]brn2dip(at)yahoo.com[/email])> wrote:
[quote:4e7afa7e7c] nope - the 82 rules say "as computed by the shortest route"


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Sent: Wednesday, December 17, 2008 11:29:20 PM

Subject: Re: dc 197 Winter 1905




Number of spaces is counted regardless of unit type. Whether the unit is a fleet or an army is irrelevent. For the purpose of calculating distance from a home SC, the unit is either X number of spaces or it is not.

You guys are adding sub-text where there isn't any.


T.

On Wed, Dec 17, 2008 at 9:27 PM, Packrat <brn2dip(at)yahoo.com ([email]brn2dip(at)yahoo.com[/email])> wrote:
[quote:4e7afa7e7c] No, I think he may be correct - SYR can NOT go to ARM.
If we are taking convoys into account then I think the intent
is that the route the unit must take is important as well.




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Sent: Wednesday, December 17, 2008 11:25:17 PM

Subject: Re: dc 197 Winter 1905




What happened to Armenia? Did we suddenly pop into a seismic game? =P

On Wed, Dec 17, 2008 at 9:24 PM, Kevin O <kodiplomacy(at)gmail.com ([email]kodiplomacy(at)gmail.com[/email])> wrote:
[quote:4e7afa7e7c] Nope, because a fleet in SYR is not two spaces away from a Russian province.

In that case, the fleet in SYR would be removed, because even at the least, the fleet in SYR is 4 spaces away from SEV.



On Wed, Dec 17, 2008 at 10:21 PM, Packrat <brn2dip(at)yahoo.com ([email]brn2dip(at)yahoo.com[/email])> wrote:
[quote:4e7afa7e7c] yes - even if the unit in SYR was also a fleet.


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Sent: Wednesday, December 17, 2008 11:18:57 PM

Subject: Re: dc 197 Winter 1905




Exactly. Because both are two spaces away from Russias home SCs. Then you take the one that is not on an SC itself.

Go one step further. Same example but add a fleet in the Norwegian Sea. In that case, it would be the fleet that gets disbanded and Munich and Syria would both stay on the board.


T.

On Wed, Dec 17, 2008 at 9:15 PM, Packrat <brn2dip(at)yahoo.com ([email]brn2dip(at)yahoo.com[/email])> wrote:
[quote:4e7afa7e7c] so then if you had a unit in MUN and SYR - the unit in SYR would
then be disbanded?


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Sent: Wednesday, December 17, 2008 11:00:40 PM

Subject: Re: dc 197 Winter 1905




None of those take precedence over each other - they are meant to be taken as a whole.

i.e.


The unit disbanded is the one that is furthest from a home center.
If more than one is equidistant from a home SC, then the unit removed is one not on a supply center.
If more than one are not on a supply center then you take fleets before armies.
Then you resort to the alphabet if there choices still have not resolved into one.


In this case there was only one unit that was two spaces away from a home SC. That was Munich.


T.

On Wed, Dec 17, 2008 at 8:54 PM, Packrat <brn2dip(at)yahoo.com ([email]brn2dip(at)yahoo.com[/email])> wrote:
[quote:4e7afa7e7c] Yeah, I was just looking at that. What the rules don't say is which takes priority,
furtherest from home, or on a supply center or not.

But I am curious - given the three editions that have come out since my 82 edition -
what do they say? Yes, I know the DC House Rules trump the real rules, but it
would be interesting to see what they say. Especially since Kevin's email implies they
may be different.



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Sent: Wednesday, December 17, 2008 10:47:59 PM


Subject: Re: dc 197 Winter 1905




Good grief. How did I miss sending in that order. Sorry guys.

Packrat is right though - the default is usually the unit furthest from the home centers. (Not just any center.) But default removals are covered by the HRS - which are in this case the default DC house rules.


"On a Winter turn an NMR (NBR/NDR) would mean that if the player was building - the builds would be waived and if the player was disbanding, units would be disbanded under the following rules [list:4e7afa7e7c] [*:4e7afa7e7c]Units not in a supply center before units in a supply center [*:4e7afa7e7c]Units further from home centers before units closer to home centers [*:4e7afa7e7c]Fleets before armies if equidistant per the above [*:4e7afa7e7c]Alphabetical"[/list:u:4e7afa7e7c]

Both of my units that are not on a supply center are only one space from a home center. Munich is two. As such, Jackson made the correct disband.


Long story short, the lapse on my part was unforgiveable and the forced disband is my fault. I think Jackosn made the right call.


Trout






On Wed, Dec 17, 2008 at 8:24 PM, Kevin O <kodiplomacy(at)gmail.com ([email]kodiplomacy(at)gmail.com[/email])> wrote:

[quote:4e7afa7e7c] Which rules are you referencing?



On Wed, Dec 17, 2008 at 8:14 PM, Packrat <brn2dip(at)yahoo.com ([email]brn2dip(at)yahoo.com[/email])> wrote:
[quote:4e7afa7e7c] I believe the rules say HOME supply center.

The units are removed furthest from home first - regardless of
whether it is a supply center or not, armies before fleets, and
alphabetically if equidistant.



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Sent: Wednesday, December 17, 2008 9:11:33 PM
Subject: Re: dc 197 Winter 1905



Folks, I have a dispute about these adjudications.

The default by Russia seems to be incorrect adjudicated, according to the DiplomaticCorp House Rules.

The rules specifically state that the first unit to be removed is a unit that is not in a supply center. Clearly, MUN is a supply center.

Then, the next criteria states that the unit which is further from a home supply center is to be removed. Both FIN and BLA are one space away from a home supply center (even though STP is not owned by Russia, it is still a Home supply center).

The third criteria is a fleet before an army will be removed. BLA is a fleet. FIN is an army. Therefore, BLA should have been removed.

Thanks,
-kevin


On Wed, Dec 17, 2008 at 7:05 PM, Jackson Foster <jrobfoster(at)gmail.com ([email]jrobfoster(at)gmail.com[/email])> wrote:
[quote:4e7afa7e7c] Austria:
Build A Trieste
Build A Vienna
Build A Budapest


England:
Defaults, removing F Yorkshire


France:
Build A Paris
Build A Marseilles
Build F Brest


Germany:
Remove A Bohemia


Italy:
Remove F Eastern Mediterranean
Remove A Ankara


Russia:
Defaults, removing A Munich




Next orders due Friday the 26th 23:00 GMT
If this does not work let me know as I know some may be on vacation.


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[Reply]

dc210 w05 builds! - FuzzyLogic   (Dec 26, 2008, 12:02 pm)
Mixed bag, as Santa brings a new fleet for the kiddos in London, armies
and boats to France, and even the little ones in Sevastopol wake up to
something in their stockings... But the grinch not only focused his
efforts on Bavaria, he left in Con only a crumb... even too small for a
mouse.

BUILDS:

E: + F Lon
F: + A Par, F Bre
G: - A Bav
R: + F Sev
T: - A Con

Then we have another 6-way draw proposal, this time it includes everyone
but Austria! Vote yay/nay with spring orders.

NEXT: Spring 06, due Friday 1/2, 10am Pacific!

Enjoy,
-mike

[Reply]

WWIV f09 retreats! - FuzzyLogic   (Dec 26, 2008, 11:43 am)
Along with some fresh holiday cheer, here are your WWIV results!

Only 3 players owe me retreats, but there are a ton of builds to process!

And with great sadness, today we bid only the fondest of Christmassy farewells to the Amazon, Colombia, Iran, and Russia - 4 players go down in one year! This takes us down to only 17 in the game, or now more than half the players have been eliminated.

RETREATS and BUILDS due together, as usual, Wed Dec 31, 10am Pacific!

**************************************************

RETREAT!

SongEmpire A Changsha(chg) can retreat to Anhui(anh) or Nanchang(nan) or Hunan(hun) or Guizhou(gzh).
SongEmpire A Hanoi(han) can retreat to Guangxi Zhuangzu Zizhiqu(gnx) or Da Nang(dan).

Philippines F Northern Philippine Sea(nps) can retreat to Guam(gua) or Samar(smr) or Cebu(ceb).

**************************************************

BUILD!

AmazonEmpire: Remove WCB (*Eliminated*)
Argentina: Build 2
Brazil: Build 2
California: Build 2
Catholica: Build 3
Illinois: Build 2
Nigeria: Remove 1
Oceania: Build 1
Russia: Remove Fin, Egr, Lvi (*Eliminated*)
SichuanEmpire: Build 2
SongEmpire: Remove 3
Thailand: Build 2
Turkey: Build 2
UnitedKingdom: Build 2


**************************************************

AmazonEmpire:
F Western Caribbean Sea(wcb) Supports F Jamaica(jam)

Argentina:
A Acre(acr) Supports A Amazon Basin(amz) (*Ordered to Move*)
F Archipielago of Chile(arc) Supports F Amundsen Sea(amu)
F Bio Bio(bio) Supports F Chile Basin(chb)
A Buenos-Aries(bue) - Patagonia(pat)
F Chile Basin(chb) Supports F Galapagos(glp)
A Ecuador(ecu) - Loreto(lor)
F Galapagos(glp) Supports F Chile Basin(chb)
A Gran Chaco(gra) - Paraguay(pgy) (*Bounce*)
A Lima(lim) - Beni(bni) (*Bounce*)
A La Paz(lpz) - Beni(bni) (*Bounce*)
A Santa Cruz(scz) Supports A Gran Chaco(gra) - Paraguay(pgy)
(*Cut*)
A Uruguay(uru) Hold
F Valparaiso(val) - Atacama(ata)
F Weddell Sea(wed) - Falkland Islands/South Georgia Islands(flk)

Brazil:
F Western South Atlantic Ocean(wsa) - Cape Verde Islands(cpv)
F Eastern Caribbean Sea(ecb) - Jamaica(jam) (*Fails*)
A Panama(pan) Hold
F Puerto Rico(pr) Supports F Guyana(guy) - Eastern Caribbean
Sea(ecb) (*Fails*)
F Trinidad & Tobago(trd) Supports F Guyana(guy) - Eastern
Caribbean Sea(ecb) (*Fails*)
F Amundsen Sea(amu) Supports F Archipielago of Chile(arc)
A Amazon Basin(amz) - Rondonia(ron) (*Bounce*)
F Aruba(aru) Supports F Golfo De Venezuela(gov)
A Bogota(bog) Supports A Medellin(med)
A Barranquilla(brn) Supports A Panama(pan)
F Golfo De Venezuela(gov) Supports F Eastern Caribbean Sea(ecb)
- Jamaica(jam)
F Guyana(guy) - Eastern Caribbean Sea(ecb) (*Fails*)
A Manaus(man) - Rondonia(ron) (*Bounce*)
A Medellin(med) Supports A Panama(pan)
A Mato Grosso Do Sul(mgd) - Paraguay(pgy) (*Bounce*)
A Mato Grosso(mgr) - Santa Cruz(scz) (*Fails*)
F Mid South Atlantic Ocean(msa) Supports F South West
Atlantic(swa)
F Recife(rec) - Western South Atlantic Ocean(wsa)
A Sao Paulo(sao) Hold
F South West Atlantic(swa) Supports F Weddell Sea(wed) -
Falkland Islands/South Georgia Islands(flk)

California:
F Guatamala Basin(gub) Supports A Sonora(son) (*Cut*)
A Sonora(son) Supports A New Mexico(nmx) - Chihuahua(chu)
F East Central Pacific Ocean(ecp) Supports F Guatamala Basin(gub)
F Gulf of Alaska(goa) - North East Pacific Ocean(nep) (*Fails*)
F Hawaii(hi) - Midway Island(mdw)
F North East Pacific Ocean(nep) - Hawaii(hi) (*Bounce*)
A New Mexico(nmx) - Chihuahua(chu) (*Fails*)
A Utah(uta) - New Mexico(nmx) (*Fails*)

Catholica:
F Eastern Mediterranean Sea(emd) - Egypt(egy)
F Morocco(mor) Supports F Eastern North Atlantic Ocean(ena)
F Red Sea(red) - Yemen(yem) (*Bounce*)
F Bay of Biscay(bis) Supports F Eastern North Atlantic Ocean(ena)
A Budapest(bud) Supports A Warsaw(war)
F Crete(cre) Hold
F Eastern North Atlantic Ocean(ena) Supports F Western South
Atlantic Ocean(wsa) - Cape Verde Islands(cpv)
A Prague(prg) - Munich(mun)
A Ruhr(ruh) - Burgundy(bur)
A Rumania(rum) Hold
A Silesia(sil) - Prague(prg) (*Bounce*)
F Tyrrhenian Sea(tyr) Hold
A Warsaw(war) Hold
F Western Mediterranean Sea(wmd) Supports F Eastern North
Atlantic Ocean(ena)

Illinois:
A Cienfuegos(cie) Supports F Santa Clara(snc) - Guantanamo(gno)
A Coahuila(coa) - Monterey(mon) (*Fails*)
F Eastern Gulf of Mexico(egm) Supports A New Orleans(no) -
Yucatan(yuc)
F Jamaica(jam) Supports F Yucatan Basin(yub) (*Cut*)
F Western Gulf of Mexico(wgm) Convoys A New Orleans(no) -
Yucatan(yuc)
F Anchorage(anc) - Bering Sea(brg) (*Fails*)
F Cascadia Basin(cas) - Gulf of Alaska(goa) (*Fails*)
A Dallas(dal) Supports A West Texas(wtx) - San Antonio(san)
F Greenland(grn) Supports F Labrador Sea(lab) - Norwegian
Sea(nwg)
A Houston(hou) Supports A San Antonio(san) - Corpus Christi(ccr)
F Hudson Bay(hud) Supports F Labrador(lbr) - Labrador Sea(lab)
(*Void*)
F Labrador Sea(lab) - Norwegian Sea(nwg) (*Bounce*)
A Nebraska(neb) - Kansas(kan)
A New Orleans(no) - Yucatan(yuc)
A Oklahoma(okl) - West Texas(wtx)
A Quebec(qbc) Hold
A San Antonio(san) - Corpus Christi(ccr)
F Vancouver(van) - Anchorage(anc) (*Bounce*)
A Wisconsin(wis) - St Louis(stl)
A West Texas(wtx) - San Antonio(san)
A Yukon(yuk) Supports F Vancouver(van) - Anchorage(anc) (*Fails*)

India:
F Arabian Sea(ara) Supports F Gulf of Aden(gad)
F Gulf of Aden(gad) Supports F Yemen(yem) - Red Sea(red) (*Cut*)
F Madras(mdr) - Bay of Bengal(bob) (*Bounce*)
A Oman(oma) - Yemen(yem) (*Bounce*)
F Persian Gulf(peg) Convoys A Shiraz(shi) - Oman(oma)
F Rajasthan(raj) Supports F Arabian Sea(ara)
F Sri Lanka(sri) - Bay of Bengal(bob) (*Bounce*)
F Yemen(yem) - Red Sea(red) (*Fails*)
A Afghanistan(afg) - Baluchestan(blc)
A Aktyubinsk(akt) - Orenburgskaya Oblast(orn)
A Ashgabat(ash) Supports A Tehran(teh)
A Kazakhstan(kaz) Supports A Uzbekistan(uzb) - Aktyubinsk(akt)
A Shiraz(shi) - Oman(oma) (*Fails*)
A Tehran(teh) Hold
A Uzbekistan(uzb) - Aktyubinsk(akt)

Iran:
A Mecca(mec) Hold (*Disbanded*)

Mexico:
F Acapulco(aca) - Guatamala Basin(gub) (*Fails*)
A Chihuahua(chu) Hold
F Gulf of Panama(gop), no move received
A Honduras(hon) Hold
A Monterey(mon) Hold
A Nicaragua(nic) Supports A Honduras(hon)
F Veracruz(vcz) Hold
A Zacatcas(zac) Supports A Chihuahua(chu)
A Corpus Christi(ccr) Supports A Monterey(mon) (*Disbanded*)

Nigeria:
F Angola(ang) Hold (*Disbanded*)
A Chad(cha) - Niger(ngr)
A Congo(con) Hold
F Dakar(dak) Supports F Eastern South Atlantic Ocean(esa)
A Equateur(equ) Supports A Kisangani(kis)
A Eritrea(eri) - Ethiopia(eth)
F Eastern South Atlantic Ocean(esa), no move received
A Ethiopia(eth) - Sudan(sud)
F Gulf of Guinea(gog) Supports F Eastern South Atlantic
Ocean(esa)
F Khartoum(kha) - Eritrea(eri)
A Kisangani(kis) Hold
F Mauritania(mau), no move received
A Nairobi(nai), no move received
F Somalia(som) - Gulf of Aden(gad) (*Fails*)
A Sudan(sud) - Chad(cha)

Oceania:
F Arafura Sea(arf) - Ambon(amb)
A Darwin(dwn) Supports F Perth(per)
F Great Australian Bight(gab) Supports F Perth(per)
F Micronesia(mic) - New Guinea(ng)
F Perth(per) Supports F Great Australian Bight(gab)
F Soloman Islands(sol) - Nauru(nau)
F South Pacific Ocean(spo) - New Caledonia(ncd)
F Central Pacific Ocean(cpo) Supports F Hawaii(hi) - Midway
Island(mdw)
F Pitcairn Island(pit) Supports F South Central Pacific
Ocean(scp)
F Ross Sea(ros) Supports F Pitcairn Island(pit)
F South Central Pacific Ocean(scp) Supports F Central Pacific
Ocean(cpo)
F Tahiti(tah) Supports F Pitcairn Island(pit)

Philippines:
F Bering Sea(brg) - North Central Pacific Ocean(ncp) (*Fails*)
F Guam(gua) - Micronesia(mic)
F North Central Pacific Ocean(ncp) - Hawaii(hi) (*Bounce*)
F Northern Philippine Sea(nps) - Tokyo(tok) (*Dislodged*)
F Saipan(sai) Supports F Guam(gua) - Micronesia(mic)
F West Central Pacific Ocean(wcp) Supports F Northern Philippine
Sea(nps) - Tokyo(tok) (*Cut*)
F Cebu(ceb) - Manila(mnl)
F Mindanao(min) - Southern Philippine Sea(sps)
F Midway Island(mdw) Supports F North Central Pacific Ocean(ncp)
- Hawaii(hi) (*Disbanded*)

Russia:
A Eastern Germany(egr) - Prague(prg) (*Bounce*)
A Finland(fin) - Norway(nwy) (*Fails*)
A L’viv(lvi) - Rumania(rum) (*Fails*)

SichuanEmpire:
A Komi(kom) - Murmansk(mur) (*Bounce*)
A Kazan(kzn) Supports A Aktyubinsk(akt) - Orenburgskaya
Oblast(orn)
A Omsk(oms) - Perm'(prm) (*Fails*)
A Perm'(prm) - Moscow(mos) (*Bounce*)
A Ufa(ufa) Supports A Kazan(kzn)
F Beijing(bei) - Shandong(sdg)
A Chongqing(cho) - Changsha(chg)
A Henan(hen) Supports F Beijing(bei) - Shandong(sdg)
A Hubei(hub) Supports A Chongqing(cho) - Changsha(chg)
F Khabarovsk(khb) - Sea of Okhotsk(okh)
A Korea(kor) Supports F Yellow Sea(yel) - Seoul(seo)
A Sakhalinsk(sak) Supports F Sapporo(sap)
F Sapporo(sap) Supports F Khabarovsk(khb) - Sea of Okhotsk(okh)
A Siberia(sib) - Anchorage(anc) (*Bounce*)
F Sea of Japan(soj) - East China Sea(ecs)
F Yellow Sea(yel) - Seoul(seo)
A Novosibirsk(nsb) - Srednesibirskoye Ploskogor'ye(srd)
A Tibet(tib) Supports A Yunan(yun)
A Zapadno-Sibirskaya Ravnina(zap) Supports A Komi(kom) -
Murmansk(mur)

SongEmpire:
A Akita(aki) - Tokyo(tok) (*Bounce*)
A Changsha(chg) Supports A Shandong(sdg) - Wuhan(wuh)
(*Dislodged*)
F East China Sea(ecs) - Shanghai(sha)
F Guangdong(gdg) - Hong Kong(hk)
A Guiyang(gyn) - Yunan(yun) (*Fails*)
A Hanoi(han) Supports A Guiyang(gyn) - Yunan(yun) (*Dislodged*)
F Kyoto(kyo) Supports F Seoul(seo) - Sea of Japan(soj)
A Nanjing(njg) Supports A Shandong(sdg) - Wuhan(wuh)
F North West Pacific Ocean(nwp) - West Central Pacific
Ocean(wcp) (*Fails*)
F Okinawa(oki) - Northern Philippine Sea(nps)
A Shandong(sdg) - Wuhan(wuh)
F Seoul(seo) - Sea of Japan(soj)
F Taiwan(tai) Supports F Okinawa(oki) - Northern Philippine
Sea(nps)
F Manila(mnl) - South China Sea North(scn)

SouthAfrica:
F Angola Basin(anb) - Angola(ang)
A Katanga(kat), no move received
A Kinshasa(kin) Supports F Angola Basin(anb) - Angola(ang)
A Kivu(kiv) Supports A Kinshasa(kin)
F Madagascar(mds) Supports F Mozambique Channel(mzb) - Somali
Basin(sob)
F Mombasa(mom) Supports F Mozambique Channel(mzb) - Somali
Basin(sob)
F Mozambique Channel(mzb) - Somali Basin(sob)
F St Helena(sth) Hold
A Tanzania(tan) Supports F Mombasa(mom)
A Uganda(uga) - Kisangani(kis) (*Fails*)
F Central Indian Ocean(cio), no move received
F Southern Indian Ocean(sio) Hold
F South West Indian Ocean(swi) Supports F Southern Indian
Ocean(sio)
F Falkland Islands/South Georgia Islands(flk) - South Atlantic
Ocean(sat)
F South Atlantic Ocean(sat) - Lubango(lub)

Thailand:
F Somali Basin(sob) Hold (*Disbanded*)
F Gulf of Tongking(gto) Supports A Laos(lao) - Hanoi(han)
A Yunan(yun) Supports A Laos(lao) - Hanoi(han) (*Cut*)
F Andaman Sea(and) - North Indian Ocean(nio)
F Diego Garcia(die) Supports F Somali Basin(sob)
F Java Sea(jav) - Banda Sea(bnd)
F Kuala Lumpur(kua) - Natuna Sea(ntu)
A Laos(lao) - Hanoi(han)
A Medan(mdn), no move received
F North Indian Ocean(nio) - Java Trench(jvt)
A Padang(pad), no move received
F South China Sea South(scs) Supports F Cebu(ceb) - Manila(mnl)
F Singapore(sng) - Java Sea(jav)

Turkey:
F Black Sea(bla) Supports A Azerbaijan(aze) - Volgograd(vol)
(*Fails*)
A Donets’k(don) Supports A Volgograd(vol) - Moscow(mos) (*Fails*)
A Jordan(jor) Supports A Saudi Arabia(sau) - Mecca(mec)
A Kiev(kie) Supports A Volgograd(vol) - Moscow(mos) (*Fails*)
A Moscow(mos) - Komi(kom) (*Fails*)
A Minsk(msk) Supports A Volgograd(vol) - Moscow(mos) (*Fails*)
A Saudi Arabia(sau) - Mecca(mec)
A Syria(syr) - Baghdad(bag)
A Volgograd(vol) - Moscow(mos) (*Bounce*)
A Azerbaijan(aze) - Volgograd(vol) (*Fails*)
F Baghdad(bag) - Saudi Arabia(sau)
A Tabriz(tab) Supports A Syria(syr) - Baghdad(bag)

UnitedKingdom:
F Antilles(ant) Supports F Puerto Rico(pr) (*Disbanded*)
F Azores(azo) Supports F North Atlantic Ocean(nat)
F Barents Sea(bar) Supports A St Petersburg(stp) - Murmansk(mur)
F Holland(hol) - Hamburg(ham)
F Iceland(ice) Supports F Western North Sea(wns) - Norwegian
Sea(nwg)
F North Atlantic Ocean(nat) Supports F Azores(azo)
F Norway(nwy) Supports A St Petersburg(stp) - Murmansk(mur)
(*Cut*)
A St Petersburg(stp) - Murmansk(mur) (*Bounce*)
F Sweden(swe) - Finland(fin) (*Fails*)
F Western North Sea(wns) - Norwegian Sea(nwg) (*Bounce*)

UnitedStates:
F Guantanamo(gno) - Hispaniola(his)
F Sargasso Sea(sar) Supports F Mid North Atlantic Ocean(mna) -
Antilles(ant)
F Santa Clara(snc) - Guantanamo(gno)
F Yucatan Basin(yub) Supports F Jamaica(jam)
A Atlanta(atl) Hold
F Bermuda(bmd) - Mid North Atlantic Ocean(mna)
F Gulf of St Lawrence(gsl) Supports F Bermuda(bmd) - Mid North
Atlantic Ocean(mna)
F Labrador(lbr) Supports F Hudson Bay(hud) - Labrador Sea(lab)
(*Void*)
F Mid North Atlantic Ocean(mna) - Antilles(ant)
F North East Coast(nec) Supports F Bermuda(bmd) - Mid North
Atlantic Ocean(mna)
F Newfoundland(nwf) Supports F Hudson Bay(hud) - Labrador
Sea(lab) (*Void*)
A New York City(nyc) - Pennsylvania(pa)
F South East Coast(sec) Supports F Sargasso Sea(sar)

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DC-227 Winter 1913 Deadline Announcement - FlapJack   (Dec 26, 2008, 11:41 am)
hi all,

a few players in this game start have written me but since since the GM has asked (and the variant rules plainly state) that we should not engage in any diploamacy until AFTER the 1913 winter builds are publshed therefore i will not read any notes sent to me or write my own letter of introduction after winter 1913 builds are published. i would ask that this not prejudice you against me any way nor preclude any possible alliances with me or help form any against me...

wolfie, can we have a deadline after the builds at least as long as this one once we can talk? thanks...

flapjack of austria

On Wed, Dec 24, 2008 at 10:54 PM, The White Wolf <cloudhurler77(at)yahoo.com ([email]cloudhurler77(at)yahoo.com[/email])> wrote:

Folks,
I concur that these builds should be done quickly and without prior negotiations. I've already got four sets of builds in, so let's do it this way:
For those of you with builds already in, make sure you have your final set in as soon as possible (if you wish to change.) For those of you without builds in, get them in to me as quickly as you can.
Once I have all seven sets in, I'll adjudicate. I won't send out results any earlier than Monday, 29 December at 2pm EST (7pm GMT,) in order to give everybody who's already sent me builds a fair chance to change if they wish. I'll set the final deadline for New Year's Day at the same time.
I reserve the right to adjudicate any time in that window, if I get a set in from everybody. Don't be late!

The White Wolf

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DC 207: Fall 366 BC Adjucation - scaponig   (Dec 26, 2008, 9:42 am)
"Hence that general is skillful in attack whose opponent does not know what to defend; and he is skillful in defense whose opponent does not know what to attack."
- Sun Tzu



We've got the skillfull in attack part down, but some people need to work on the knowing what the defend, as 5 SCs change hands, and the Shu-Chu stalemate in the South ends.



Thanks to Jack of the Chao for fighting it out to the end.



Also, the last neutral was dislodged, no need for orders as there will be no neutral SCs after this winter Sad



Two retreats, let's get them in by Monday, December 29 at 23:59 GMT. Of course, if I get them both early, I will adjucate then, so getting them in ASAP means I may have it done before the weekend is out:

Shu A Chang'an can retreat to Chincheng or Pei Daiyeng or
Daiyeng.
Chu A Ying can retreat to Han or Tung Ying.


Thanks!



Steve



Fall Orders

Chao:
A Tung Chinyang Hold (*Dislodged*)

Chii:
A Lu Supports A Nan Lintse - Lintse
A Nan Lintse - Lintse
A Sung Supports F Tsechuan - Nan Tsechuan
F Tsechuan - Nan Tsechuan

Chin:
A Chinyang - Tung Chinyang
A Handan Supports A Ying - Hanchung (*Fails*)
A Hsi Handan - Wei
A Hsianyang - Chang'an
A Nan Turfan Supports A Chinyang - Tung Chinyang
A Yueyang Supports A Hsianyang - Chang'an

Chu:
A Chen - Ying (*Fails*)
A Hsi Yueh - Nanchin
A Pengli Supports A Hsi Yueh - Nanchin
A Ying - Hanchung (*Dislodged*)

Hsiung-Nu:
A Hsiangping - Yubeiping (*Fails*)
A Nan Hsienpi Supports A Hsiangping - Yubeiping
A Shanggu - Chungshan

Shu:
A Ba - Pei Choushi
A Chang'an Supports A Hanchung (*Dislodged*)
A Hanchung Supports A Nanchin - Ying
A Nanchin - Ying
A Pei Choushi - Hsi Yueh

Yen:
A Nan Yubeiping Supports A Yubeiping
A Yubeiping Hold

Neutrals:
A Nan Tsechuan, no move received (*Disbanded*)

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