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DC205 The Pleiades - Early Winter 1904 - A Slushy... - former.trout   (Nov 13, 2008, 8:57 am)
Retreats are in!

England heads for the beer-halls of Holland, Italy makes port in Tunis. Meanwhile Turkey takes flight to the hills of Albania and Tuscany. And with the relocations complete, we move on through the slush into the chills of Winter.

Adjustments are due from France, Italy, Russia and Turkey. Deadline for Winter 04 will be set for Friday, November 14th (11:59 PM GMT).

Cheers!

Trout


Retreat orders for Fall of 1904. (DC205 04 EW)

England: F Kiel - Holland.

Italy: F Ionian Sea - Tunis.

Turkey: A Trieste - Albania.
Turkey: A Venice - Tuscany.

Unit locations:

England: A Belgium, F Holland, F London.
France: A Brest, A Burgundy, F Edinburgh, F English Channel, A Picardy, A
Yorkshire.
Germany: A Kiel, A Munich.
Italy: F Adriatic Sea, F Naples, A Trieste, F Tunis, A Venice.
Russia: F Ankara, A Berlin, A Budapest, F Helgoland Bight, F North Sea, A
Rumania, A Serbia, A Silesia, A Sweden.
Turkey: F Aegean Sea, A Albania, F Constantinople, F Eastern Mediterranean,
F Ionian Sea, A Smyrna, A Tuscany.

Ownership of supply centers:

England: Belgium, Holland, London.
France: Brest, Edinburgh, Liverpool, Marseilles, Paris, Portugal, Spain.
Germany: Kiel, Munich.
Italy: Naples, Rome, Trieste, Tunis, Venice, Vienna.
Russia: Ankara, Berlin, Budapest, Denmark, Moscow, Norway, Rumania, Serbia,
Sevastopol, St Petersburg, Sweden, Warsaw.
Turkey: Bulgaria, Constantinople, Greece, Smyrna.

Austria: 0 Supply centers, 0 Units: Builds 0 units.
England: 3 Supply centers, 3 Units: Builds 0 units.
France: 7 Supply centers, 6 Units: Builds 1 unit.
Germany: 2 Supply centers, 2 Units: Builds 0 units.
Italy: 6 Supply centers, 5 Units: Builds 1 unit.
Russia: 12 Supply centers, 9 Units: Builds 3 units.
Turkey: 4 Supply centers, 7 Units: Removes 3 units.

NEXT DEADLINE: WINTER 1904 ADJUSTMENTS DUE FRIDAY, NOVEMBER 14TH (11:59 PM GMT)!!

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DC176 - END GAME STATEMENT ITALY - Githraine   (Nov 13, 2008, 7:43 am)
Matt, a WOT fan?
Well I stepped in to a mercy position in Russia, only one Home SC and no prospects.
I quickly decided that to survive I needed friends, and as there seemed to be a 'Stop the Austrian Solo' rally on every corner, I hopped on.
One early success let me see the Kremlin again before getting pushed out with only 2 SCs to live on when the juggernauts finally decided to end everything.

Glad I could help keep this one going, and glad I managed to survive Wink

Thanks everyone!

Jason


From: Matthew Kelly <kelly058(at)verizon.net>
To: dc176(at)diplomaticcorp.com; Brian Schoner (DC176 FRA) <brianschoner(at)bellsouth.net>; David Ellsworth (DC176 ENG) <davidellsworth(at)sbcglobal.net>; Dean Gardiner (DC176 RUS) <gardinerdean(at)aol.com>; Former Trout (DC190 South Africa / DC176 Austria / DC195 Argentina / DC201 France) <former.trout(at)gmail.com>; Jason K (DC176 RUS) <githraine(at)yahoo.com>; Willie Wonder (DC176 GER) <willie.everytime.wonder(at)gmail.com>; bielschowsky.f(at)gmail.com
Sent: Wednesday, November 12, 2008 10:59:11 PM
Subject: Re: DC176 - END GAME STATEMENT ITALY


Upon entering the game Italy’s position was rather bleak being pretty much split in two. My choice was to try and fight my way back to Italy or give it up and consolidate in the east. Russia didn’t seem interested in my continued participation in the game (I would have taken the same position in his place) so moving west would have resulted in my early demise. Unfortunately for Russia his Austrian neighbor was a little more accommodating. “Mr. T” agreed to a leisurely takeover of the Italian mainland and to a non-aggression pact in the Balkans.

This allowed me to maintain my forces and focus on Russia. The end result was that I was able to drive Russia out of Turkey. Having only one army to work with (hereafter referred to as the “Ever Victorious Army&rdquoWink the fleet in the Black Sea was key in providing a number of options while also allowing me to move back and forth from Russia to the Balkans as needed. Russia allowed itself to get caught in some bad situations resulting in the destruction of most of his force in Turkey and allowing me to take Sevastopol.

While securing Turkey I kept egging “Mr. T” on to strike at Russia who was over extended in Germany. When Austria made its move against Russia I immediately offered to work with Russia. I figured with Russia and Austria going at it I had a slim chance of making it back home. Unfortunately, Russia was a bit indignant that I had attack Austria without asking his permission (and probably was a little peeved about events in the south) and I found myself trading spaces in the Balkans with Austria.

Without Russian support the writing was on the wall and I again was saved by “Mr. T’s” chivalrous nature and another truce was secured. Having none of the moral fortitude exhibited by “Mr. T” I would again break the truce when it seemed France was on the move. Finally it became apparent that my continued meddling in the game would result in nothing more than either a French or Austrian solo. “Mr. T” again showing his angelic nature of forgiveness and sense of fair play (I do wonder how he has ever survived in a game of Diplomacy) acknowledged that a solo was out of reach and that he would settle for a tie with France and allow me to continue to exist.

--- On Wed, 11/12/08, F Bielschowsky <bielschowsky.f(at)googlemail.com> wrote:

From: F Bielschowsky <bielschowsky.f(at)googlemail.com>
Subject: DC176 - Spring 1915: we have a French - Austrian Draw: afterpost
To: dc176(at)diplomaticcorp.com, "Brian Schoner (DC176 FRA)" <brianschoner(at)bellsouth.net>, "David Ellsworth (DC176 ENG)" <davidellsworth(at)sbcglobal.net>, "Dean Gardiner (DC176 RUS)" <gardinerdean(at)aol.com>, "Former Trout (DC190 South Africa / DC176 Austria / DC195 Argentina / DC201 France)" <former.trout(at)gmail.com>, "Jason K (DC176 RUS)" <githraine(at)yahoo.com>, "Matthew Kelly (DC176 ITA)" <kelly058(at)verizon.net>, "Willie Wonder (DC176 GER)" <willie.everytime.wonder(at)gmail.com>
Date: Wednesday, November 12, 2008, 10:15 PM

I saw that my summary didn't give France the credit it deserves, so I added the following text at the end (see website):

"However, France had also moved far into the Mediterranean and captured Munich from the Austrians. A fight between these two titans could have gone either way."

Frank

---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: F Bielschowsky <bielschowsky.f(at)googlemail.com ([email]bielschowsky.f(at)googlemail.com[/email])>
Date: 2008/11/12
Subject: DC176 - Spring 1915: we have a French - Austrian Draw
To: dc176(at)diplomaticcorp.com ([email]dc176(at)diplomaticcorp.com[/email]), "Brian Schoner (DC176 FRA)" <brianschoner(at)bellsouth.net ([email]brianschoner(at)bellsouth.net[/email])>, "David Ellsworth (DC176 ENG)" <davidellsworth(at)sbcglobal.net ([email]davidellsworth(at)sbcglobal.net[/email])>, "Dean Gardiner (DC176 RUS)" <gardinerdean(at)aol.com ([email]gardinerdean(at)aol.com[/email])>, "Former Trout (DC190 South Africa / DC176 Austria / DC195 Argentina / DC201 France)" <former.trout(at)gmail.com ([email]former.trout(at)gmail.com[/email])>, "Jason K (DC176 RUS)" <githraine(at)yahoo.com ([email]githraine(at)yahoo.com[/email])>, "Matthew Kelly (DC176 ITA)" <kelly058(at)verizon.net ([email]kelly058(at)verizon.net[/email])>, "Willie Wonder (DC176 GER)" <willie.everytime.wonder(at)gmail.com ([email]willie.everytime.wonder(at)gmail.com[/email])>
Cc: "Steve Lytton (DC195 Columbia / DC201 Norge)" <stevelytton(at)hotmail.com ([email]stevelytton(at)hotmail.com[/email])>


After several seasons of Rulers with stagefright to engage in a Draw, we now have a YES vote from all remaining Powers.
And thus, after 15 years of war, Europe will know peace again.
And thus the game has ended at the brink of Spring 1915. As shown in the attached picture.

This means that the Draw between France and Austria leaves two other Powers as survivors of the 15 years of fighting: Russia and Italy.
Both driven out of their home territory, they managed to survive. Often the Italian Special Forces left everyone wondering what strategy sat behind their moves: survival, yes, but at times it seemed like only the lack of Home Supply Centers was stopping it from expanding again.

Early on in the game, Spring 1904, after it was heavily beaten by the Italians, Turkey went into Civil Disorder. Germany, was forced out of its Home supply centers in Spring 1906 due to a battering it took from French, English but mainly Russian forces; it managed to escape elimination by moving south and it even went into Spain for one season. But Fall 1908 marked its end. England managed to survive a bit longer but after the demise of Germany, England was next on the list of the French and Russian predators. And by Winter 1907 England had also taken a serious beating. Year after year England had to give up one of its units, until in Winter 1911 it was all over.
In 1909 Austria started its advance north and in the years to follow managed to work its way up until it had driven Russia out of former Germany by Winter 1911 (coincidence that this is linked to the demise of England during this year?). That's also when Italy had taken Sevastopol. To be followed shortly by its capture of Moscow. In Summer 1913 Russia recaptured Moscow but had to give it up again in Fall of that year; that's also when Austria took possession of Warsaw, Moscow, and Sevastopol. And in Spring 1914 Austria forced Russia out of its last home SC. Meanwhile in the last few years France had been creeping up to the borders of the Austrian empire. And although it had broken the Piedmont defense, it didn't seem like it was going to last very long.

My thanks to all the replacements: Trout, in the 2nd season, Matt, in the 13th season, and Jason, only recently in the 24th season, for taking up the abandoned powers of Austria, Italy, and Russia.

Hope to see you all again in one of my games or find you to be one of my allies (rather than foes) in another.
End-of-game statements are encouraged.

Frank



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DC-184 Fall 1907 Adjudication - TheWhiteWolf   (Nov 13, 2008, 6:30 am)
All,
I know you guys are waiting on pins and needles, so I won't hold this up any more than I already have.


Players:

Austria: Pontus Nilsson pontus(at)wallmanderco.se **ELIMINATED**
England: Mark Utterback mdemagogue(at)gmail.com
France: Joe Hackett jhack16(at)gmail.com
Germany: Roger Strand PellefantSpam(at)gmail.com
Italy: Chris Morse camorse22(at)yahoo.com
Russia: Ross Webb rodtheworm(at)hotmail.com
Turkey: German Zorba germanzorba(at)gmail.com


Orders:

England:
A Clyde - Liverpool
F Edinburgh Supports F London - North Sea

France:
A Belgium Supports A Burgundy
A Burgundy Supports A Tyrolia - Munich
F English Channel Supports A Belgium
F Helgoland Bight - Holland (*Fails*)
F London - North Sea
A Marseilles Supports A Burgundy
F North Atlantic Ocean - Norwegian Sea (*Fails*)

Germany:
F Holland Supports F North Sea (*Cut*)
A Kiel Supports F Holland
A Munich Supports A Ruhr (*Cut*)
F North Sea Supports F Skagerrak - Denmark (*Dislodged*)
A Ruhr Supports A Munich
F Skagerrak - Denmark

Italy:
F Adriatic Sea - Apulia (*Bounce*)
A Albania - Serbia
F Naples - Apulia (*Bounce*)
A Trieste Supports A Albania - Serbia
F Tunis Hold
A Tyrolia - Munich (*Fails*)

Russia:
F Barents Sea - Norway
A Bohemia Supports A Vienna
A Budapest Supports A Albania - Serbia
F Norway - Sweden
F Norwegian Sea Supports F Barents Sea - Norway (*Cut*)
F Rumania Hold
A Vienna Supports A Budapest

Turkey:
F Aegean Sea Supports F Eastern Mediterranean - Ionian Sea (*Fails*)
A Bulgaria Supports A Serbia
F Eastern Mediterranean - Ionian Sea (*Fails*)
F Greece - Albania
F Ionian Sea - Adriatic Sea (*Fails*)
A Serbia Supports F Greece - Albania (*Dislodged*)


Retreats:

German F North Sea can retreat to Yorkshire, Skagerrak or OTB.
Turkish A Serbia can retreat to Greece or OTB.


Unit Positions: (SCs/Units)

Austria: ELIMINATED 1905

England: (2/2)
Armies - Lvp
Fleets - Edi

France: (7/7)
Armies - Bel, Bur, Mar
Fleets - Eng, Hel, NAO, Nth

Germany: (6/6)
Armies - Kie, Mun, Ruh
Fleets - Den, Hol, Nth (pending retreat)

Italy: (6/6)
Armies - Ser, Tri, Trl
Fleets - Adr, Nap, Tun

Russia: (7/7)
Armies - Boh, Bud, Vie
Fleets - Nwg, Nwy, Rum, Swe

Turkey: (6/6)
Armies - Bul, Ser (pending retreat)
Fleets - Aeg, Alb, Eas, Ion


Deadline:
Fall 1907 Retreats are due (tomorrow) Friday, 14 November at 2pm EST (7pm GMT.)
Any issues or errors, let me know.


Map and RP file are attached for your convenience, enjoy!

Thanks all,
The White Wolf

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http://www.fanfiction.net/u/1369632/

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Dc194 Spring 1906 - deathblade_penguin   (Nov 13, 2008, 4:27 am)
Dc194 Spring 1906

Unfortunately an NMR from England, could prove deadly come Fall 1906.

England has already used his grace period and did not submit moves by the deadline.

Austria:
A Albania - Serbia (*Fails*)
A Budapest - Trieste
F Ionian Sea - Adriatic Sea
A Vienna Supports A Budapest - Trieste

England:
F Helgoland Bight, no move received
F Norwegian Sea, no move received

France:
A Belgium - Burgundy
F Brest - Mid-Atlantic Ocean
A Burgundy - Marseilles
A Clyde - Edinburgh
F English Channel - North Sea
F Tyrrhenian Sea - Naples
A Venice - Tyrolia
F Wales - London
F Western Mediterranean - Tunis

Germany:
A Holland Supports A Kiel
A Kiel Hold
A Livonia - Moscow (*Fails*)
F Prussia - Livonia (*Fails*)
A Warsaw Supports A Livonia - Moscow (*Cut*)

Russia:
F Denmark Hold
A Moscow Supports A Galicia - Warsaw (*Cut*)
F Norway Hold
A St Petersburg Supports A Moscow

Turkey:
F Aegean Sea - Greece (*Fails*)
A Constantinople - Bulgaria
F Eastern Mediterranean - Ionian Sea
A Galicia - Warsaw (*Fails*)
A Greece - Albania (*Fails*)
A Rumania - Ukraine
A Serbia Supports F Trieste (*Cut*)
F Sevastopol - Black Sea
F Trieste Hold (*Dislodged*)

Summer 1906
As there is only one retreat for Turkey, I have made this retreat automatically.

Fleet Trieste retreats to Venice.

Turkey can elect to disband this fleet by notifying me within 48 hours, else the retreat stands.

Fall 1906 is due next Thursday 20th at 8am GMT.

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Dc199 - 22 hour warning - deathblade_penguin   (Nov 13, 2008, 4:16 am)
Dc199 Spring 1907 will be on Friday 14th at 8am GMT

I have NO moves from Germany, Italy or Russia.


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Dc180 Corrected Map - deathblade_penguin   (Nov 13, 2008, 2:49 am)
This is the correct map for Dc180
with the Russian army built in Warsaw.


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Dc180 Corrected Map (dc180) vegas_iwish Nov 13, 10:18 am
I still don't like my position or the weak Aussie $ - correct it again!


--- On Thu, 11/13/08, Stephen Lytton <stevelytton(at)hotmail.com> wrote:

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Subject: Dc180 Corrected Map
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Date: Thursday, November 13, 2008, 12:49 AM
This is the correct map for Dc180
with the Russian army built in Warsaw.

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DC176 - END GAME STATEMENT ITALY - MattKelly   (Nov 12, 2008, 9:59 pm)
Upon entering the game Italy’s position was rather bleak being pretty much split in two. My choice was to try and fight my way back to Italy or give it up and consolidate in the east. Russia didn’t seem interested in my continued participation in the game (I would have taken the same position in his place) so moving west would have resulted in my early demise. Unfortunately for Russia his Austrian neighbor was a little more accommodating. “Mr. T” agreed to a leisurely takeover of the Italian mainland and to a non-aggression pact in the Balkans.

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This allowed me to maintain my forces and focus on Russia. The end result was that I was able to drive Russia out of Turkey. Having only one army to work with (hereafter referred to as the “Ever Victorious Army&rdquoWink the fleet in the Black Sea was key in providing a number of options while also allowing me to move back and forth from Russia to the Balkans as needed. Russia allowed itself to get caught in some bad situations resulting in the destruction of most of his force in Turkey and allowing me to take Sevastopol.



While securing Turkey I kept egging “Mr. T” on to strike at Russia who was over extended in Germany. When Austria made its move against Russia I immediately offered to work with Russia. I figured with Russia and Austria going at it I had a slim chance of making it back home. Unfortunately, Russia was a bit indignant that I had attack Austria without asking his permission (and probably was a little peeved about events in the south) and I found myself trading spaces in the Balkans with Austria.



Without Russian support the writing was on the wall and I again was saved by “Mr. T’s” chivalrous nature and another truce was secured. Having none of the moral fortitude exhibited by “Mr. T” I would again break the truce when it seemed France was on the move. Finally it became apparent that my continued meddling in the game would result in nothing more than either a French or Austrian solo. “Mr. T” again showing his angelic nature of forgiveness and sense of fair play (I do wonder how he has ever survived in a game of Diplomacy) acknowledged that a solo was out of reach and that he would settle for a tie with France and allow me to continue to exist.


--- On Wed, 11/12/08, F Bielschowsky <bielschowsky.f(at)googlemail.com> wrote:

From: F Bielschowsky <bielschowsky.f(at)googlemail.com>
Subject: DC176 - Spring 1915: we have a French - Austrian Draw: afterpost
To: dc176(at)diplomaticcorp.com, "Brian Schoner (DC176 FRA)" <brianschoner(at)bellsouth.net>, "David Ellsworth (DC176 ENG)" <davidellsworth(at)sbcglobal.net>, "Dean Gardiner (DC176 RUS)" <gardinerdean(at)aol.com>, "Former Trout (DC190 South Africa / DC176 Austria / DC195 Argentina / DC201 France)" <former.trout(at)gmail.com>, "Jason K (DC176 RUS)" <githraine(at)yahoo.com>, "Matthew Kelly (DC176 ITA)" <kelly058(at)verizon.net>, "Willie Wonder (DC176 GER)" <willie.everytime.wonder(at)gmail.com>
Date: Wednesday, November 12, 2008, 10:15 PM

I saw that my summary didn't give France the credit it deserves, so I added the following text at the end (see website):

"However, France had also moved far into the Mediterranean and captured Munich from the Austrians. A fight between these two titans could have gone either way."

Frank

---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: F Bielschowsky <bielschowsky.f(at)googlemail.com ([email]bielschowsky.f(at)googlemail.com[/email])>
Date: 2008/11/12
Subject: DC176 - Spring 1915: we have a French - Austrian Draw
To: dc176(at)diplomaticcorp.com ([email]dc176(at)diplomaticcorp.com[/email]), "Brian Schoner (DC176 FRA)" <brianschoner(at)bellsouth.net ([email]brianschoner(at)bellsouth.net[/email])>, "David Ellsworth (DC176 ENG)" <davidellsworth(at)sbcglobal.net ([email]davidellsworth(at)sbcglobal.net[/email])>, "Dean Gardiner (DC176 RUS)" <gardinerdean(at)aol.com ([email]gardinerdean(at)aol.com[/email])>, "Former Trout (DC190 South Africa / DC176 Austria / DC195 Argentina / DC201 France)" <former.trout(at)gmail.com ([email]former.trout(at)gmail.com[/email])>, "Jason K (DC176 RUS)" <githraine(at)yahoo.com ([email]githraine(at)yahoo.com[/email])>, "Matthew Kelly (DC176 ITA)" <kelly058(at)verizon.net ([email]kelly058(at)verizon.net[/email])>, "Willie Wonder (DC176 GER)" <willie.everytime.wonder(at)gmail.com ([email]willie.everytime.wonder(at)gmail.com[/email])>
Cc: "Steve Lytton (DC195 Columbia / DC201 Norge)" <stevelytton(at)hotmail.com ([email]stevelytton(at)hotmail.com[/email])>


After several seasons of Rulers with stagefright to engage in a Draw, we now have a YES vote from all remaining Powers.
And thus, after 15 years of war, Europe will know peace again.
And thus the game has ended at the brink of Spring 1915. As shown in the attached picture.

This means that the Draw between France and Austria leaves two other Powers as survivors of the 15 years of fighting: Russia and Italy.
Both driven out of their home territory, they managed to survive. Often the Italian Special Forces left everyone wondering what strategy sat behind their moves: survival, yes, but at times it seemed like only the lack of Home Supply Centers was stopping it from expanding again.

Early on in the game, Spring 1904, after it was heavily beaten by the Italians, Turkey went into Civil Disorder. Germany, was forced out of its Home supply centers in Spring 1906 due to a battering it took from French, English but mainly Russian forces; it managed to escape elimination by moving south and it even went into Spain for one season. But Fall 1908 marked its end. England managed to survive a bit longer but after the demise of Germany, England was next on the list of the French and Russian predators. And by Winter 1907 England had also taken a serious beating. Year after year England had to give up one of its units, until in Winter 1911 it was all over.
In 1909 Austria started its advance north and in the years to follow managed to work its way up until it had driven Russia out of former Germany by Winter 1911 (coincidence that this is linked to the demise of England during this year?). That's also when Italy had taken Sevastopol. To be followed shortly by its capture of Moscow. In Summer 1913 Russia recaptured Moscow but had to give it up again in Fall of that year; that's also when Austria took possession of Warsaw, Moscow, and Sevastopol. And in Spring 1914 Austria forced Russia out of its last home SC. Meanwhile in the last few years France had been creeping up to the borders of the Austrian empire. And although it had broken the Piedmont defense, it didn't seem like it was going to last very long.

My thanks to all the replacements: Trout, in the 2nd season, Matt, in the 13th season, and Jason, only recently in the 24th season, for taking up the abandoned powers of Austria, Italy, and Russia.

Hope to see you all again in one of my games or find you to be one of my allies (rather than foes) in another.
End-of-game statements are encouraged.

Frank



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DC176 - END GAME STATEMENT ITALY (dc176) Githraine Nov 13, 07:43 am
Matt, a WOT fan?
Well I stepped in to a mercy position in Russia, only one Home SC and no prospects.
I quickly decided that to survive I needed friends, and as there seemed to be a 'Stop the Austrian Solo' rally on every corner, I hopped on.
One early success let me see the Kremlin again before getting pushed out with only 2 SCs to live on when the juggernauts finally decided to end everything.

Glad I could help keep this one going, and glad I managed to survive Wink

Thanks everyone!

Jason


From: Matthew Kelly <kelly058(at)verizon.net>
To: dc176(at)diplomaticcorp.com; Brian Schoner (DC176 FRA) <brianschoner(at)bellsouth.net>; David Ellsworth (DC176 ENG) <davidellsworth(at)sbcglobal.net>; Dean Gardiner (DC176 RUS) <gardinerdean(at)aol.com>; Former Trout (DC190 South Africa / DC176 Austria / DC195 Argentina / DC201 France) <former.trout(at)gmail.com>; Jason K (DC176 RUS) <githraine(at)yahoo.com>; Willie Wonder (DC176 GER) <willie.everytime.wonder(at)gmail.com>; bielschowsky.f(at)gmail.com
Sent: Wednesday, November 12, 2008 10:59:11 PM
Subject: Re: DC176 - END GAME STATEMENT ITALY


Upon entering the game Italy’s position was rather bleak being pretty much split in two. My choice was to try and fight my way back to Italy or give it up and consolidate in the east. Russia didn’t seem interested in my continued participation in the game (I would have taken the same position in his place) so moving west would have resulted in my early demise. Unfortunately for Russia his Austrian neighbor was a little more accommodating. “Mr. T” agreed to a leisurely takeover of the Italian mainland and to a non-aggression pact in the Balkans.

This allowed me to maintain my forces and focus on Russia. The end result was that I was able to drive Russia out of Turkey. Having only one army to work with (hereafter referred to as the “Ever Victorious Army&rdquoWink the fleet in the Black Sea was key in providing a number of options while also allowing me to move back and forth from Russia to the Balkans as needed. Russia allowed itself to get caught in some bad situations resulting in the destruction of most of his force in Turkey and allowing me to take Sevastopol.

While securing Turkey I kept egging “Mr. T” on to strike at Russia who was over extended in Germany. When Austria made its move against Russia I immediately offered to work with Russia. I figured with Russia and Austria going at it I had a slim chance of making it back home. Unfortunately, Russia was a bit indignant that I had attack Austria without asking his permission (and probably was a little peeved about events in the south) and I found myself trading spaces in the Balkans with Austria.

Without Russian support the writing was on the wall and I again was saved by “Mr. T’s” chivalrous nature and another truce was secured. Having none of the moral fortitude exhibited by “Mr. T” I would again break the truce when it seemed France was on the move. Finally it became apparent that my continued meddling in the game would result in nothing more than either a French or Austrian solo. “Mr. T” again showing his angelic nature of forgiveness and sense of fair play (I do wonder how he has ever survived in a game of Diplomacy) acknowledged that a solo was out of reach and that he would settle for a tie with France and allow me to continue to exist.

--- On Wed, 11/12/08, F Bielschowsky <bielschowsky.f(at)googlemail.com> wrote:

From: F Bielschowsky <bielschowsky.f(at)googlemail.com>
Subject: DC176 - Spring 1915: we have a French - Austrian Draw: afterpost
To: dc176(at)diplomaticcorp.com, "Brian Schoner (DC176 FRA)" <brianschoner(at)bellsouth.net>, "David Ellsworth (DC176 ENG)" <davidellsworth(at)sbcglobal.net>, "Dean Gardiner (DC176 RUS)" <gardinerdean(at)aol.com>, "Former Trout (DC190 South Africa / DC176 Austria / DC195 Argentina / DC201 France)" <former.trout(at)gmail.com>, "Jason K (DC176 RUS)" <githraine(at)yahoo.com>, "Matthew Kelly (DC176 ITA)" <kelly058(at)verizon.net>, "Willie Wonder (DC176 GER)" <willie.everytime.wonder(at)gmail.com>
Date: Wednesday, November 12, 2008, 10:15 PM

I saw that my summary didn't give France the credit it deserves, so I added the following text at the end (see website):

"However, France had also moved far into the Mediterranean and captured Munich from the Austrians. A fight between these two titans could have gone either way."

Frank

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Date: 2008/11/12
Subject: DC176 - Spring 1915: we have a French - Austrian Draw
To: dc176(at)diplomaticcorp.com ([email]dc176(at)diplomaticcorp.com[/email]), "Brian Schoner (DC176 FRA)" <brianschoner(at)bellsouth.net ([email]brianschoner(at)bellsouth.net[/email])>, "David Ellsworth (DC176 ENG)" <davidellsworth(at)sbcglobal.net ([email]davidellsworth(at)sbcglobal.net[/email])>, "Dean Gardiner (DC176 RUS)" <gardinerdean(at)aol.com ([email]gardinerdean(at)aol.com[/email])>, "Former Trout (DC190 South Africa / DC176 Austria / DC195 Argentina / DC201 France)" <former.trout(at)gmail.com ([email]former.trout(at)gmail.com[/email])>, "Jason K (DC176 RUS)" <githraine(at)yahoo.com ([email]githraine(at)yahoo.com[/email])>, "Matthew Kelly (DC176 ITA)" <kelly058(at)verizon.net ([email]kelly058(at)verizon.net[/email])>, "Willie Wonder (DC176 GER)" <willie.everytime.wonder(at)gmail.com ([email]willie.everytime.wonder(at)gmail.com[/email])>
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After several seasons of Rulers with stagefright to engage in a Draw, we now have a YES vote from all remaining Powers.
And thus, after 15 years of war, Europe will know peace again.
And thus the game has ended at the brink of Spring 1915. As shown in the attached picture.

This means that the Draw between France and Austria leaves two other Powers as survivors of the 15 years of fighting: Russia and Italy.
Both driven out of their home territory, they managed to survive. Often the Italian Special Forces left everyone wondering what strategy sat behind their moves: survival, yes, but at times it seemed like only the lack of Home Supply Centers was stopping it from expanding again.

Early on in the game, Spring 1904, after it was heavily beaten by the Italians, Turkey went into Civil Disorder. Germany, was forced out of its Home supply centers in Spring 1906 due to a battering it took from French, English but mainly Russian forces; it managed to escape elimination by moving south and it even went into Spain for one season. But Fall 1908 marked its end. England managed to survive a bit longer but after the demise of Germany, England was next on the list of the French and Russian predators. And by Winter 1907 England had also taken a serious beating. Year after year England had to give up one of its units, until in Winter 1911 it was all over.
In 1909 Austria started its advance north and in the years to follow managed to work its way up until it had driven Russia out of former Germany by Winter 1911 (coincidence that this is linked to the demise of England during this year?). That's also when Italy had taken Sevastopol. To be followed shortly by its capture of Moscow. In Summer 1913 Russia recaptured Moscow but had to give it up again in Fall of that year; that's also when Austria took possession of Warsaw, Moscow, and Sevastopol. And in Spring 1914 Austria forced Russia out of its last home SC. Meanwhile in the last few years France had been creeping up to the borders of the Austrian empire. And although it had broken the Piedmont defense, it didn't seem like it was going to last very long.

My thanks to all the replacements: Trout, in the 2nd season, Matt, in the 13th season, and Jason, only recently in the 24th season, for taking up the abandoned powers of Austria, Italy, and Russia.

Hope to see you all again in one of my games or find you to be one of my allies (rather than foes) in another.
End-of-game statements are encouraged.

Frank



END GAME STATEMENT ITALY - MattKelly   (Nov 12, 2008, 9:58 pm)
Upon entering the game Italy’s position was rather bleak being pretty much split in two. My choice was to try and fight my way back to Italy or give it up and consolidate in the east. Russia didn’t seem interested in my continued participation in the game (I would have taken the same position in his place) so moving west would have resulted in my early demise. Unfortunately for Russia his Austrian neighbor was a little more accommodating. “Mr. T” agreed to a leisurely takeover of the Italian mainland and to a non-aggression pact in the Balkans.

This allowed me to maintain my forces and focus on Russia. The end result was that I was able to drive Russia out of Turkey. Having only one army to work with (hereafter referred to as the “Ever Victorious Army&rdquoWink the fleet in the Black Sea was key in providing a number of options while also allowing me to move back and forth from Russia to the Balkans as needed. Russia allowed itself to get caught in some bad situations resulting in the destruction of most of his force in Turkey and allowing me to take Sevastopol.

While securing Turkey I kept egging “Mr. T” on to strike at Russia who was over extended in Germany. When Austria made its move against Russia I immediately offered to work with Russia. I figured with Russia and Austria going at it I had a slim chance of making it back home. Unfortunately, Russia was a bit indignant that I had attack Austria without asking his permission (and probably was a little peeved about events in the south) and I found myself trading spaces in the Balkans with Austria.

Without Russian support the writing was on the wall and I again was saved by “Mr. T’s” chivalrous nature and another truce was secured. Having none of the moral fortitude exhibited by “Mr. T” I would again break the truce when it seemed France was on the move. Finally it became apparent that my continued meddling in the game would result in nothing more than either a French or Austrian solo. “Mr. T” again showing his angelic nature of forgiveness and sense of fair play (I do wonder how he has ever survived in a game of Diplomacy) acknowledged that a solo was out of reach and that he would settle for a tie with France and allow me to continue to exist.

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Acrimony / dc206 - Fall 1904 Results - john76   (Nov 12, 2008, 9:45 pm)
Hello All,

Please note we had one nation with NMR this turn: France.

Autumn 1904 retreats are due by Friday, November 14, and we need three
nations to order retreats as follows:
England: A Liverpool
France: A Burgundy
Italy: A Smyrna

FRANCE! Unless you submit a retreat order by Friday, November 14, your
nation will be in civil disorder... you will be out of the game!
(Other players... curious what happens with civil disorder... visit
the house rules at http://diplomacy.ellsworthlink.net/jmehouserules.html.)

Builds and disbands will not be changed as a result of retreats, so
winter 1904 orders will be due Monday, November 17 and are as follows:
Austria: Build 2
England: Remove 1
France: Remove 2
Germany: Build 1
Italy: Remove 2
Russia: Build 2

Here are the fall1904 results:

Austria:
F Aegean Sea - Greece (*Fails*)
A Greece - Bulgaria (*Fails*)
A Piedmont - Marseilles
A Trieste - Venice
A Tyrolia - Vienna

England:
A Liverpool Hold (*Dislodged*)
F London Hold

France:
A Brest Hold
A Burgundy Hold (*Dislodged*)
A Gascony Hold
F Mid-Atlantic Ocean Hold
A Picardy Hold

Germany:
A Belgium - Picardy (*Fails*)
A Edinburgh Supports A Yorkshire - Liverpool
F Holland - North Sea
A Marseilles - Spain
A Munich Supports A Ruhr - Burgundy
F North Sea - English Channel
A Ruhr - Burgundy

Italy:
F Eastern Mediterranean Supports A Smyrna
F Naples - Tyrrhenian Sea
A Smyrna Hold (*Dislodged*)
A Tunis Hold
F Tyrrhenian Sea - Gulf of Lyon

Russia:
A Ankara Supports F Constantinople - Smyrna
A Armenia Supports F Constantinople - Smyrna
F Barents Sea - Norwegian Sea
F Black Sea - Constantinople
A Bulgaria Supports F Black Sea - Constantinople (*Cut*)
F Constantinople - Smyrna
A Galicia - Bohemia
F Skagerrak Supports F Holland - North Sea
A Ukraine - Galicia
A Yorkshire - Liverpool

Enjoy!

=)
John

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dc206
Standard
Autumn 1904
0
7
0
bud, gre, ser, tri, vie.
F aeg, A gre, A mar, A ven, A vie
0
lvp, lon.
F lon
0
bre, mar, par, por, spa.
A bre, A gas, F mao, A pic
0
bel, ber, den, edi, hol, kie, mun.
A bel, A bur, A edi, F eng, A mun, F nth, A spa
0
nap, rom, smy, tun, ven.
F eas, F lyo, A tun, F tys
0
ank, bul, con, mos, nwy, rum, sev, stp, swe, war.
A ank, A arm, A boh, A bul, F con, A gal, A lvp, F nwg, F ska, F smy
0


3
French A bur par
English A lvp wal cly
Italian A smy syr
v2
15
1 1901
---T-----Ga--FAa---Ta--E-----------GEa-EFa-RaGaI-----Fa----Ia---R--Ta-Rs--A-----IaAa-Ra--
T-GFA-T-E--GEEFRGI-F-I--RT-R-A-IAR
0
0 0 0 0 0 0 0
0
Austria: A bud - ser
Austria: F tri - alb
Austria: A vie - tri
England: F edi - nth
England: A lvp - wal
England: F lon - eng
France: F bre - mao
France: A mar - spa
France: A par - gas
Germany: A ber - kie
Germany: F kie - hol
Germany: A mun - ruh
Italy: F nap - ion
Italy: A rom - nap
Italy: A ven - apu
Russia: A mos - sev (*Fails*)
Russia: F sev - bla (*Bounce*)
Russia: F stp(sc) - bot
Russia: A war - ukr
Turkey: F ank - bla (*Bounce*)
Turkey: A con - bul
Turkey: A smy - con
3 1901
--ATIa---------Ta--Ta---E--Fa--R-GI-Ga----FRa-Ia--E--------Ga-AaR---Fa---Aa----Ra--Ea---
T-GFA-T-E--GEEFRGI-F-I--RT-R-A-IAR
0
0 0 0 0 0 0 0
0
Austria: F alb - gre
Austria: A ser Supports F alb - gre
Austria: A tri - trl
England: F eng - bel (*Fails*)
England: F nth - nwy
England: A wal Hold
France: A gas - bre
France: F mao - por
France: A spa Hold
Germany: F hol Supports A ruh - bel
Germany: A kie - den
Germany: A ruh - bel
Italy: A apu Hold
Italy: F ion Convoys A nap - tun
Italy: A nap - tun
Russia: F bot - swe
Russia: A mos - stp
Russia: F sev - rum
Russia: A ukr Supports F sev - rum
Turkey: F ank - bla
Turkey: A bul - gre (*Fails*)
Turkey: A con - bul (*Fails*)
5 1901
----Ia---Ga-T-Fa-Ta--TaGa--E---A---GI-------------E----F---RAa----FaRaR--Ia-Aa-Ra--Ea---
TGGFATTGEAGGEEFRGIEFFIRARTFRRAIIAR
12
2 1 2 3 1 2 1
0
Austria: Build A tri
Austria: Build A bud
England: Build F lon
France: Build A par
France: Build A mar
Germany: Build F kie
Germany: Build A mun
Germany: Build A ber
Italy: Build F nap
Russia: Build F sev
Russia: Build A mos
Turkey: Build A ank
1 1902
---TaIa---GaGaT-FaAaTa--TaGa--E---A---GI-G--EFa-RaGaI---E-Fa--F---RAaR---FaRaR-AaIa-Aa-Ra--Ea---
TGGFATTGEAGGEEFRGIEFFIRARTFRRAIIAR
0
0 0 0 0 0 0 0
0
Austria: A bud Supports A ukr - rum
Austria: F gre - aeg
Austria: A ser - gre
Austria: A tri - ser
Austria: A trl - pie
England: F eng Convoys A wal - bel
England: F lon - nth
England: F nwy Supports F lon - nth
England: A wal - bel (*Fails*)
France: A bre Hold
France: A mar - bur
France: A par - pic
France: F por - mao
France: A spa - gas
Germany: A bel Hold
Germany: A ber - mun
Germany: A den Hold
Germany: F hol - nth (*Fails*)
Germany: F kie - hel
Germany: A mun - boh
Italy: A apu Hold
Italy: F ion - eas
Italy: F nap - ion
Italy: A tun Hold
Russia: A mos - ukr
Russia: F rum - bla
Russia: F sev Supports F rum - bla
Russia: A stp - fin
Russia: F swe Hold
Russia: A ukr - rum
Turkey: A ank - arm
Turkey: F bla Supports A bul - rum (*Dislodged*)
Turkey: A bul - rum (*Fails*)
Turkey: A con - smy
2 1902
-A--IaTa--Ga-RGaFaAaTaFa--GaI-ERa-FaAa--GGI------F-Ga---EE--FaAa----RaAaR--Ta--R--Ia---Ra--Ea---
TGGFATTGEAGGEEFRGIEFFIRARTFRRAIIAR
0
0 0 0 0 0 0 0
1
Turkish F bla ank con
Turkey: F bla - con
3 1902
-A--IaTa--Ga-RGaFaAaTaFa-TGaI-ERa-FaAa--GGI------F-Ga---EE--FaAa----RaAaR--Ta--R--Ia---Ra--Ea---
TGGFATTGEAGGEEFRGIEFFIRARTFRRAIIAR
0
0 0 0 0 0 0 0
0
Austria: F aeg Supports A ser - bul
Austria: A bud - vie (*Bounce*)
Austria: A gre Supports A ser - bul
Austria: A pie - mar (*Bounce*)
Austria: A ser - bul
England: F eng Supports A pic - bel (*Void*)
England: F nth - hol (*Dislodged*)
England: F nwy Hold
England: A wal - lvp
France: A bre Hold
France: A bur Hold
France: A gas - mar (*Bounce*)
France: F mao Hold
France: A pic Hold
Germany: A bel Supports F hol
Germany: A boh - vie (*Bounce*)
Germany: A den Hold
Germany: F hel - nth
Germany: F hol Supports F hel - nth
Germany: A mun - trl
Italy: A apu - syr
Italy: F eas Convoys A apu - syr
Italy: F ion Convoys A apu - syr
Italy: A tun Hold
Russia: F bla - ank
Russia: A fin - stp
Russia: A rum Supports A gre - bul (*Void*)
Russia: F sev - bla
Russia: F swe - nwy (*Fails*)
Russia: A ukr - sev
Turkey: A arm Supports A smy
Turkey: A bul Supports F con (*Disbanded*)
Turkey: F con Supports A bul
Turkey: A smy Supports F con
4 1902
-A-R-Ta--Ga-RGaFaAaAaFa-TGaI-E--FaAa---GI--Ea---F-----GE--FaAa----Ra-Ra--Ta-RaRIa-Ia-Ga--------
TGGFATTGEAGGEEFRGIEFFIRARTFRRAIIAR
0
0 0 0 0 0 0 1
1
English F nth yor edi nwg ska lon
England: F nth - lon
5 1902
-A-R-Ta--Ga-RGaFaAaAaFa-TGaI-E--FaAa---GI--Ea-E-F-----GE--FaAa----Ra-Ra--Ta-RaRIa-Ia-Ga--------
RGGFAATGEAGGEEFRGIEFFIRARTFRRAIIAR
3
1 0 0 0 0 1 -1
0
Austria: Build A tri
Russia: Build waived
Turkey: Remove F con
1 1903
-A-R-Ta--Ga-RGaFaAaAaFa--GaI-E--FaAa---GI--Ea-E-F-----GE--FaAa----Ra-Ra--Ta-RaRIaAaIa-Ga--------
RGGFAATGEAGGEEFRGIEFFIRARTFRRAIIAR
0
0 0 0 0 0 1 0
0
Austria: F aeg Supports A syr - smy
Austria: A bud - vie
Austria: A bul - ser
Austria: A gre Hold
Austria: A pie - trl
Austria: A tri Supports A pie - trl
England: F eng Hold
England: A lvp Hold
England: F lon Hold
England: F nwy Hold
France: A bre Hold
France: A bur Hold
France: A gas Hold
France: F mao Hold
France: A pic Hold
Germany: A bel Hold
Germany: A boh Supports A trl - mun
Germany: A den Hold
Germany: F hol Supports A bel
Germany: F nth - eng (*Fails*)
Germany: A trl - mun
Italy: F eas Supports A syr - smy
Italy: F ion Hold
Italy: A syr - smy
Italy: A tun Hold
Russia: F ank Supports A sev - con
Russia: F bla Convoys A sev - con
Russia: A rum - bul
Russia: A sev - con
Russia: A stp Hold
Russia: F swe - den (*Fails*)
Turkey: A arm Supports A smy - syr
Turkey: A smy - syr (*Disbanded*)
3 1903
-A-R-Ta--Ga-RGaFa-RaFa-RaGaI-E--FaAa---GI--Ea-E-F-Ga---GE--Fa------Aa---Ia-RaR-AaIa-Aa---Aa----
RGGFAATGEAGGEEFRGIEFFIRARTFRRAIIAR
0
0 0 0 0 0 1 1
0
Austria: F aeg Hold
Austria: A gre Hold
Austria: A ser Hold
Austria: A tri Hold
Austria: A trl Hold
Austria: A vie Hold
England: F eng Hold
England: A lvp Hold
England: F lon Hold
England: F nwy Hold (*Dislodged*)
France: A bre Supports A pic
France: A bur - ruh
France: A gas - bur (*Fails*)
France: F mao Hold
France: A pic Hold
Germany: A bel Supports A mun - bur
Germany: A boh - mun
Germany: A den - edi
Germany: F hol Supports A bel
Germany: A mun - bur
Germany: F nth Convoys A den - edi
Italy: F eas Supports A smy
Italy: F ion - tys
Italy: A smy Hold
Italy: A tun Hold
Russia: F ank - con (*Fails*)
Russia: F bla - rum (*Bounce*)
Russia: A bul - rum (*Bounce*)
Russia: A con - smy (*Fails*)
Russia: A stp - nwy
Russia: F swe Supports A stp - nwy
Turkey: A arm Supports A con - smy
4 1903
-A-R-Ta--Ga-R-Fa-RaGa-Ra-IGaE--FaAa---G---Ea-E-F-Ga---GRa--Fa----Fa-Aa---Ia--R-AaIa-AaI--Aa----
RGGFAATGEAGGEEFRGIEFFIRARTFRRAIIAR
0
0 0 0 0 0 1 1
1
English F nwy bar nwg ska
England: F nwy - ska
5 1903
-A-R-Ta--Ga-R-Fa-RaGa-Ra-IGaE--FaAa---G---Ea-E-F-Ga---GRa--Fa----Fa-Aa--EIa--R-AaIa-AaI--Aa----
RGGFARRGGAGGEEFRGIRFFIRARIFRRAIIAR
10
-1 -2 0 1 1 4 -1
0
Austria: Remove A tri
England: Remove F ska
England: Remove F eng
Germany: Build A kie
Italy: Build F nap
Russia: Build F stp(nc)
Russia: Build A mos
Russia: Build A sev
Russia: Build A war
Turkey: Remove A arm
1 1904
-A-R----Ga-R-Fa-RaGa-Ra-IGa---FaAa---G--GaEa-E-FRaGaI--GRa--Fa----Fa-AaRa--Ia-RnR--Ia-AaI--Aa-Ra--
RGGFARRGGAGGEEFRGIRFFIRARIFRRAIIAR
0
0 0 0 0 0 0 0
0
Austria: F aeg Hold
Austria: A gre Hold
Austria: A ser - tri
Austria: A trl - pie
Austria: A vie - trl
England: A lvp Hold
England: F lon Hold
France: A bre Hold
France: A gas Hold
France: F mao Hold
France: A pic Hold
France: A ruh Hold (*Dislodged*)
Germany: A bel Supports A kie - ruh
Germany: A bur - mar
Germany: A edi - lvp (*Fails*)
Germany: F hol Supports A bel
Germany: A kie - ruh
Germany: A mun Supports A kie - ruh
Germany: F nth Convoys A nwy - yor
Italy: F eas Supports A smy
Italy: F nap Hold
Italy: A smy Hold
Italy: A tun Hold
Italy: F tys Hold
Russia: F ank - bla
Russia: F bla - con
Russia: A bul Supports F bla - con
Russia: A con - ank
Russia: A mos - ukr
Russia: A nwy - yor
Russia: A sev - arm
Russia: F stp(nc) - bar
Russia: F swe - ska
Russia: A war - gal
2 1904
-A-Ra-Ra-RGa-R-Fa-Ra--R-IGa--RaFaAa---G---Ea-EGaF-GaI--G---FaAa---Ga----RIa----AaIa-AaIRa-----Ra
RGGFARRGGAGGEEFRGIRFFIRARIFRRAIIAR
0
0 0 0 0 0 0 0
1
French A ruh bur
France: A ruh - bur
3 1904
-A-Ra-Ra-RGa-R-Fa-RaFa-R-IGa--RaFaAa---G---Ea-EGaF-GaI--G---FaAa---Ga----RIa----AaIa-AaIRa-----Ra
RGGFARRGGAGGEEFRGIRFFIRARIFRRAIIAR
0
0 0 0 0 0 0 0
0
Austria: F aeg - gre (*Fails*)
Austria: A gre - bul (*Fails*)
Austria: A pie - mar
Austria: A tri - ven
Austria: A trl - vie
England: A lvp Hold (*Dislodged*)
England: F lon Hold
France: A bre Hold
France: A bur Hold (*Dislodged*)
France: A gas Hold
France: F mao Hold
France: A pic Hold
Germany: A bel - pic (*Fails*)
Germany: A edi Supports A yor - lvp
Germany: F hol - nth
Germany: A mar - spa
Germany: A mun Supports A ruh - bur
Germany: F nth - eng
Germany: A ruh - bur
Italy: F eas Supports A smy
Italy: F nap - tys
Italy: A smy Hold (*Dislodged*)
Italy: A tun Hold
Italy: F tys - lyo
Russia: A ank Supports F con - smy
Russia: A arm Supports F con - smy
Russia: F bar - nwg
Russia: F bla - con
Russia: A bul Supports F bla - con (*Cut*)
Russia: F con - smy
Russia: A gal - boh
Russia: F ska Supports F hol - nth
Russia: A ukr - gal
Russia: A yor - lvp
-1
England: A Liverpool - Wales
France: A Burgundy - Paris
Italy: A Smyrna - Syria

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DC176 - Spring 1915: we have a French - Austrian D... - bielf11   (Nov 12, 2008, 9:15 pm)
I saw that my summary didn't give France the credit it deserves, so I added the following text at the end (see website):

"However, France had also moved far into the Mediterranean and captured Munich from the Austrians. A fight between these two titans could have gone either way."

Frank

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From: F Bielschowsky <bielschowsky.f(at)googlemail.com ([email]bielschowsky.f(at)googlemail.com[/email])>
Date: 2008/11/12
Subject: DC176 - Spring 1915: we have a French - Austrian Draw
To: dc176(at)diplomaticcorp.com ([email]dc176(at)diplomaticcorp.com[/email]), "Brian Schoner (DC176 FRA)" <brianschoner(at)bellsouth.net ([email]brianschoner(at)bellsouth.net[/email])>, "David Ellsworth (DC176 ENG)" <davidellsworth(at)sbcglobal.net ([email]davidellsworth(at)sbcglobal.net[/email])>, "Dean Gardiner (DC176 RUS)" <gardinerdean(at)aol.com ([email]gardinerdean(at)aol.com[/email])>, "Former Trout (DC190 South Africa / DC176 Austria / DC195 Argentina / DC201 France)" <former.trout(at)gmail.com ([email]former.trout(at)gmail.com[/email])>, "Jason K (DC176 RUS)" <githraine(at)yahoo.com ([email]githraine(at)yahoo.com[/email])>, "Matthew Kelly (DC176 ITA)" <kelly058(at)verizon.net ([email]kelly058(at)verizon.net[/email])>, "Willie Wonder (DC176 GER)" <willie.everytime.wonder(at)gmail.com ([email]willie.everytime.wonder(at)gmail.com[/email])>
Cc: "Steve Lytton (DC195 Columbia / DC201 Norge)" <stevelytton(at)hotmail.com ([email]stevelytton(at)hotmail.com[/email])>


After several seasons of Rulers with stagefright to engage in a Draw, we now have a YES vote from all remaining Powers.
And thus, after 15 years of war, Europe will know peace again.
And thus the game has ended at the brink of Spring 1915. As shown in the attached picture.

This means that the Draw between France and Austria leaves two other Powers as survivors of the 15 years of fighting: Russia and Italy.
Both driven out of their home territory, they managed to survive. Often the Italian Special Forces left everyone wondering what strategy sat behind their moves: survival, yes, but at times it seemed like only the lack of Home Supply Centers was stopping it from expanding again.

Early on in the game, Spring 1904, after it was heavily beaten by the Italians, Turkey went into Civil Disorder. Germany, was forced out of its Home supply centers in Spring 1906 due to a battering it took from French, English but mainly Russian forces; it managed to escape elimination by moving south and it even went into Spain for one season. But Fall 1908 marked its end. England managed to survive a bit longer but after the demise of Germany, England was next on the list of the French and Russian predators. And by Winter 1907 England had also taken a serious beating. Year after year England had to give up one of its units, until in Winter 1911 it was all over.
In 1909 Austria started its advance north and in the years to follow managed to work its way up until it had driven Russia out of former Germany by Winter 1911 (coincidence that this is linked to the demise of England during this year?). That's also when Italy had taken Sevastopol. To be followed shortly by its capture of Moscow. In Summer 1913 Russia recaptured Moscow but had to give it up again in Fall of that year; that's also when Austria took possession of Warsaw, Moscow, and Sevastopol. And in Spring 1914 Austria forced Russia out of its last home SC. Meanwhile in the last few years France had been creeping up to the borders of the Austrian empire. And although it had broken the Piedmont defense, it didn't seem like it was going to last very long.

My thanks to all the replacements: Trout, in the 2nd season, Matt, in the 13th season, and Jason, only recently in the 24th season, for taking up the abandoned powers of Austria, Italy, and Russia.

Hope to see you all again in one of my games or find you to be one of my allies (rather than foes) in another.
End-of-game statements are encouraged.

Frank

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DC176 - Spring 1915: we have a French - Austrian D... - bielf11   (Nov 12, 2008, 9:06 pm)
After several seasons of Rulers with stagefright to engage in a Draw, we now have a YES vote from all remaining Powers.
And thus, after 15 years of war, Europe will know peace again.
And thus the game has ended at the brink of Spring 1915. As shown in the attached picture.

This means that the Draw between France and Austria leaves two other Powers as survivors of the 15 years of fighting: Russia and Italy.
Both driven out of their home territory, they managed to survive. Often the Italian Special Forces left everyone wondering what strategy sat behind their moves: survival, yes, but at times it seemed like only the lack of Home Supply Centers was stopping it from expanding again.

Early on in the game, Spring 1904, after it was heavily beaten by the Italians, Turkey went into Civil Disorder. Germany, was forced out of its Home supply centers in Spring 1906 due to a battering it took from French, English but mainly Russian forces; it managed to escape elimination by moving south and it even went into Spain for one season. But Fall 1908 marked its end. England managed to survive a bit longer but after the demise of Germany, England was next on the list of the French and Russian predators. And by Winter 1907 England had also taken a serious beating. Year after year England had to give up one of its units, until in Winter 1911 it was all over.
In 1909 Austria started its advance north and in the years to follow managed to work its way up until it had driven Russia out of former Germany by Winter 1911 (coincidence that this is linked to the demise of England during this year?). That's also when Italy had taken Sevastopol. To be followed shortly by its capture of Moscow. In Summer 1913 Russia recaptured Moscow but had to give it up again in Fall of that year; that's also when Austria took possession of Warsaw, Moscow, and Sevastopol. And in Spring 1914 Austria forced Russia out of its last home SC. Meanwhile in the last few years France had been creeping up to the borders of the Austrian empire. And although it had broken the Piedmont defense, it didn't seem like it was going to last very long.

My thanks to all the replacements: Trout, in the 2nd season, Matt, in the 13th season, and Jason, only recently in the 24th season, for taking up the abandoned powers of Austria, Italy, and Russia.

Hope to see you all again in one of my games or find you to be one of my allies (rather than foes) in another.
End-of-game statements are encouraged.

Frank

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dc193 ~ Manifested Destiny - sgttodd   (Nov 12, 2008, 6:09 pm)
A DIAS proposal is up for vote. Please vote with you Fall 1847 orders.
Thank you.

Also note that Mick (Britain) is having some issues with his phone/net
service and has spotty Internet access for the next week or so.

The deadline for Fall 1847 is Monday, November 17th; 2359 UTC

Spring 1847 Orders

Britain: F London Supports F Edinburgh - North Sea.
Britain: A Dublin - Edinburgh.
Britain: F Edinburgh - North Sea.
Britain: F Bahama Islands - Bay of Florida.
Britain: F Cape Colony - Roaring Forties.
Britain: F Bombay - Arabian Sea.
Britain: A Delhi Hold.
Britain: F Malaysia Hold.
Britain: A Natal - Caffrabia.
Britain: F Java Hold.
Britain: F Cuba Hold.
Britain: A New York City Hold.
Britain: F Denmark - Sweden.
Britain: F Norway Supports F Denmark - Sweden (*Fails*).
Britain: F Rouen Hold.
Britain: F Abyssinia - Red Sea (*Bounce*).
Britain: A Kasmir - Afganistan.
Britain: A Bokhara Supports A Xinjang - Tashkent (*Disbanded*).
Britain: A Chicago Hold.
Britain: F Greenland Sea - Barents Sea.
Britain: F Skagerrak Supports F Denmark - Sweden.
Britain: F Sargasso Sea - N.Atlantic Ocean.
Britain: F Arabian Sea - Horn of Africa.
Britain: F N.E.Indian Ocean - Maldives.
Britain: F N.W.Indian Ocean Supports F N.E.Indian Ocean - Maldives.
Britain: F S.W.Indian Ocean - Madagascar.

China: A Guangdong Hold.
China: F Kagoshima Hold.
China: A Irkutsk - Evenki.
China: A Hue Hold.
China: A Xining - Xinjang.
China: A Xinjang - Tashkent.
China: A Mongolia - Krasnoyarsk (*Fails*).
China: F Marshalls Hold.
China: F Formosa Hold.
China: F Tai Won Hold.
China: F Eastern Sea Hold.
China: F Sea of Japan - Edo.
China: F Kuril Sea Hold.
China: F Izu Sea Hold.

France: A Venice Hold.
France: F Holland Supports A Kiel.
France: A Kiel Supports F Holland.
France: A Stuttgart Supports A Kiel.
France: A Metz Supports F Holland.

Ottoman: F Maldives Hold (*Disbanded*).
Ottoman: A Angora - Constantinople (*Fails*).
Ottoman: A Bagdad Hold.
Ottoman: F Constantinople - Sofia (*Fails*).
Ottoman: A Sofia - Bosnia (*Fails*).
Ottoman: F Ade - Red Sea (*Bounce*).
Ottoman: A Tehran - Khiva.
Ottoman: A Georgia - Omsk (*Bounce*).
Ottoman: A Tabrize - Baku.

Russia: A Berlin, no move received.
Russia: A Vienna - Galicia.
Russia: A St Petersburg - Moskow.
Russia: A Orenburg Supports A Khiva - Bokhara.
Russia: A Rumania - Sevastopol.
Russia: A Serbia Supports A Croatia - Bosnia.
Russia: F Sweden - Gulf of Bothnia.
Russia: A Croatia - Bosnia.
Russia: A Finland - St Petersburg.
Russia: A Wallacia - Rumania.
Russia: A Khiva - Bokhara.
Russia: A Krasnoyarsk - Omsk (*Bounce*).
Russia: F Black Sea Supports A Wallacia - Rumania.

Spain: F Loango - Gulf of Guinea.
Spain: A Paris Supports A Bordeaux - Marseilles.
Spain: A Nantes - Rouen (*Fails*).
Spain: A Marseilles - Piedmont.
Spain: F Sierra Leone - Mid-Atlantic Ocean.
Spain: A Guinea - Soudan.
Spain: F Society Islands - W.Pacific Ocean (*Bounce*).
Spain: A Madrid - Catalunia.
Spain: A Lisbon - Coruna.
Spain: F Zanguebar - Somolia.
Spain: F Rome(ec) - Adriatic Sea.
Spain: A Bordeaux - Marseilles.
Spain: F Piedmont - Rome(wc).
Spain: A Liberia - Guinea.
Spain: A Donga, no move received.
Spain: F Solomons Supports F Phillipene Sea.
Spain: A British Guiana, no move received.
Spain: A French Guiana, no move received.
Spain: A Republic of Texas, no move received.
Spain: A North West Terr., no move received.
Spain: A Missouri Terr. Supports A Chicago.
Spain: F Bay of Biscay Supports F London - English Channel (*Void*).
Spain: F Gulf of Lyon Supports A Marseilles - Piedmont.
Spain: F Tyrrhenian Sea Supports F Piedmont - Rome(wc).
Spain: F Canaries Seaway - Western Mediterranean.
Spain: F Gulf of Mexico Supports F Western Carribean.
Spain: F Western Carribean Supports F Gulf of Mexico.
Spain: F Eastern Carribean Supports F Western Carribean.
Spain: F Mid-Atlantic Ocean - Canaries Seaway.
Spain: F Amazon Basin Supports F Eastern Carribean.
Spain: F S.Atlantic Ocean, no move received.
Spain: F Celebes Sea Supports F Phillipene Sea.
Spain: F Phillipene Sea Supports F Eastern Sea.
Spain: F Hawaii - W.Pacific Ocean (*Bounce*).

Unit locations:

Britain: F London, A Edinburgh, A Delhi, F Malaysia, F Madagascar, F
Maldives, F Java, F Cuba, A New York City, F Norway, F Sweden, F Rouen,
F Abyssinia, A Caffrabia, A Afganistan, A Bokhara, A Chicago, F Barents
Sea, F North Sea, F Skagerrak, F N.Atlantic Ocean, F Bay of Florida, F
Roaring Forties, F Horn of Africa, F Arabian Sea, F N.W.Indian Ocean.

China: A Guangdong, F Kagoshima, F Edo, A Hue, A Tashkent, A Evenki, A
Xinjang, A Mongolia, F Marshalls, F Formosa, F Tai Won, F Eastern Sea, F
Kuril Sea, F Izu Sea.

France: A Venice, F Holland, A Kiel, A Stuttgart, A Metz.

Ottoman: F Maldives, A Angora, A Bagdad, F Constantinople, A Sofia, F
Ade, A Georgia, A Khiva, A Baku.

Russia: A Berlin, A Moskow, A Sevastopol, A St Petersburg, A Orenburg,
A Rumania, A Serbia, A Bosnia, A Galicia, A Krasnoyarsk, A Bokhara, F
Gulf of Bothnia, F Black Sea.

Spain: A Paris, A Nantes, A Marseilles, A Guinea, F Society Islands, F
Rome(wc), A Catalunia, A Coruna, A Piedmont, A Donga, F Somolia, A
Soudan, F Solomons, A British Guiana, A French Guiana, A Republic of
Texas, A North West Terr., A Missouri Terr., F Bay of Biscay, F Western
Mediterranean, F Gulf of Lyon, F Tyrrhenian Sea, F Adriatic Sea, F
Canaries Seaway, F Gulf of Mexico, F Western Carribean, F Eastern
Carribean, F Mid-Atlantic Ocean, F Amazon Basin, F Gulf of Guinea, F
S.Atlantic Ocean, F Celebes Sea, F Phillipene Sea, F Hawaii.

Deadline for Fall 1847: Monday, November 17th; 2359 UTC
files: http://mainecav.org/diplomacy

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DC219, Delay - roadtomoscow   (Nov 12, 2008, 2:53 pm)
Germany will be happy to proxy Austria's orders, as that is the most historical outcome I think.

(kidding)

Chris

--- On Wed, 11/12/08, Mikael Johansson <m_don_j(at)hotmail.com> wrote:

From: Mikael Johansson <m_don_j(at)hotmail.com>
Subject: DC219, Delay
To: exaltedboston(at)gmail.com, reinselc(at)yahoo.com, timfuhrmeister(at)yahoo.com, yubuusro(at)yahoo.com, sam_buck_productions(at)mac.com, fake_email_for_jr(at)hotmail.com, archer280(at)gmail.com, former.trout(at)gmail.com, stevelytton(at)hotmail.com, dc219(at)diplomaticcorp.com
Date: Wednesday, November 12, 2008, 2:50 PM

#yiv1554936831 .hmmessage P { margin:0px;padding:0px;} #yiv1554936831 { font-size:10pt;font-family:Verdana;} Fellow players,

I'm sad to say that our Austrian player failed to send in any orders for Spring 01. I will thus remove this player from this game and start seeking a replacement.

/ Mikael

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DC219, Delay - m_don_j   (Nov 12, 2008, 2:50 pm)
Fellow players,

I'm sad to say that our Austrian player failed to send in any orders for Spring 01. I will thus remove this player from this game and start seeking a replacement.

/ Mikael
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DC219, Delay (dc219) roadtomoscow Nov 12, 02:53 pm
Germany will be happy to proxy Austria's orders, as that is the most historical outcome I think.

(kidding)

Chris

--- On Wed, 11/12/08, Mikael Johansson <m_don_j(at)hotmail.com> wrote:

From: Mikael Johansson <m_don_j(at)hotmail.com>
Subject: DC219, Delay
To: exaltedboston(at)gmail.com, reinselc(at)yahoo.com, timfuhrmeister(at)yahoo.com, yubuusro(at)yahoo.com, sam_buck_productions(at)mac.com, fake_email_for_jr(at)hotmail.com, archer280(at)gmail.com, former.trout(at)gmail.com, stevelytton(at)hotmail.com, dc219(at)diplomaticcorp.com
Date: Wednesday, November 12, 2008, 2:50 PM

#yiv1554936831 .hmmessage P { margin:0px;padding:0px;} #yiv1554936831 { font-size:10pt;font-family:Verdana;} Fellow players,

I'm sad to say that our Austrian player failed to send in any orders for Spring 01. I will thus remove this player from this game and start seeking a replacement.

/ Mikael

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Fall 1904 Final - Kai   (Nov 12, 2008, 1:52 pm)
---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Jackson Foster <jrobfoster(at)gmail.com ([email]jrobfoster(at)gmail.com[/email])>
Date: Tue, Nov 11, 2008 at 5:40 PM
Subject: Fall 1904 Final
To: former.trout(at)gmail.com ([email]former.trout(at)gmail.com[/email]), Stephen Lytton <stevelytton(at)hotmail.com ([email]stevelytton(at)hotmail.com[/email])>, Vincent Decattoire <vincentdecattoire(at)yahoo.fr ([email]vincentdecattoire(at)yahoo.fr[/email])>, kodiplomacy(at)gmail.com ([email]kodiplomacy(at)gmail.com[/email]), Gregory Stevens <stevens388(at)comcast.net ([email]stevens388(at)comcast.net[/email])>, joe payne <josepayne(at)gmail.com ([email]josepayne(at)gmail.com[/email])>, Packrat <brn2dip(at)yahoo.com ([email]brn2dip(at)yahoo.com[/email])>, Trevor Baillie <rtbaillie(at)hotmail.com ([email]rtbaillie(at)hotmail.com[/email])>, KLYNCH427(at)hotmail.com ([email]KLYNCH427(at)hotmail.com[/email])


Looks like there will be a search for a new Russia now... I had contact with him after the fix but nothing since. If I do not get a response from him before the Autumn deadline passes then I will find a new player. Austria:
A Budapest - Rumania
A Serbia Supports A Budapest - Rumania
A Trieste - Vienna
A Tuscany - Rome
A Venice Supports A Tuscany - Rome


England:
F London Hold (*Dislodged*)
F North Sea Supports F London (*Cut*)
F Norwegian Sea - Clyde


France:
A Burgundy - Belgium (*Bounce*)
F English Channel - London
F Liverpool, no move received
A Spain - North Africa
A Wales Supports F English Channel - London
F Western Mediterranean Convoys A Spain - North Africa


Germany:
A Berlin - Silesia
A Denmark - Sweden (*Fails*)
A Holland - Belgium (*Bounce*)
F Kiel - Baltic Sea
A Munich Supports A Berlin - Silesia
F Norway - North Sea (*Fails*)
A Sweden - Norway (*Fails*)


Italy:
A Armenia - Ankara
F Ionian Sea - Tunis
A Rome Hold (*Dislodged*)
F Smyrna Supports F Aegean Sea - Constantinople


Russia:
F Black Sea, no move received
A Bohemia, no move received
A Rumania, no move received (*Disbanded*)
A St Petersburg, no move received
A Warsaw, no move received


Turkey:
F Aegean Sea - Constantinople
F Bulgaria(sc) - Constantinople (*Fails*)
A Greece Hold


English F London can retreat to Yorkshire.
Italian A Rome can retreat to Naples or Apulia.


Deadline for retreats is going to be Thursday at 23:00 GMT.

[Reply]

Fall 1904 Final (dc197) Kai Nov 14, 09:03 pm
Alright guys, I got England's retreat but not Italy. As such the army is disbanded. Russia has not contacted me and as such a search for a replacement player will be put out. I will give a deadline after he is found.

Kai

On Tue, Nov 11, 2008 at 5:40 PM, Jackson Foster <jrobfoster(at)gmail.com ([email]jrobfoster(at)gmail.com[/email])> wrote:

Looks like there will be a search for a new Russia now... I had contact with him after the fix but nothing since. If I do not get a response from him before the Autumn deadline passes then I will find a new player. Austria:
A Budapest - Rumania
A Serbia Supports A Budapest - Rumania
A Trieste - Vienna
A Tuscany - Rome
A Venice Supports A Tuscany - Rome


England:
F London Hold (*Dislodged*)
F North Sea Supports F London (*Cut*)
F Norwegian Sea - Clyde


France:
A Burgundy - Belgium (*Bounce*)
F English Channel - London
F Liverpool, no move received
A Spain - North Africa
A Wales Supports F English Channel - London
F Western Mediterranean Convoys A Spain - North Africa


Germany:
A Berlin - Silesia
A Denmark - Sweden (*Fails*)
A Holland - Belgium (*Bounce*)
F Kiel - Baltic Sea
A Munich Supports A Berlin - Silesia
F Norway - North Sea (*Fails*)
A Sweden - Norway (*Fails*)


Italy:
A Armenia - Ankara
F Ionian Sea - Tunis
A Rome Hold (*Dislodged*)
F Smyrna Supports F Aegean Sea - Constantinople


Russia:
F Black Sea, no move received
A Bohemia, no move received
A Rumania, no move received (*Disbanded*)
A St Petersburg, no move received
A Warsaw, no move received


Turkey:
F Aegean Sea - Constantinople
F Bulgaria(sc) - Constantinople (*Fails*)
A Greece Hold


English F London can retreat to Yorkshire.
Italian A Rome can retreat to Naples or Apulia.


Deadline for retreats is going to be Thursday at 23:00 GMT.








Fall 1904 Final (dc197) packrat Nov 14, 11:23 pm
Hey - any chance you can put 197 somewhere in the subject line? The fall posts have
not been getting into the correct folder.

Also, will there be a map and/or DPY file with the retreats?
I am assuming that since the silent Italian was disbanded the silent Russian will be as well.

From: Jackson Foster <jrobfoster(at)gmail.com>
To: former.trout(at)gmail.com; Stephen Lytton <stevelytton(at)hotmail.com>; Vincent Decattoire <vincentdecattoire(at)yahoo.fr>; kodiplomacy(at)gmail.com; Gregory Stevens <stevens388(at)comcast.net>; joe payne <josepayne(at)gmail.com>; Packrat <brn2dip(at)yahoo.com>; Trevor Baillie <rtbaillie(at)hotmail.com>; KLYNCH427(at)hotmail.com; dc197(at)diplomaticcorp.com
Sent: Friday, November 14, 2008 10:03:07 PM
Subject: Re: Fall 1904 Final

Alright guys, I got England's retreat but not Italy. As such the army is disbanded. Russia has not contacted me and as such a search for a replacement player will be put out. I will give a deadline after he is found.

Kai

On Tue, Nov 11, 2008 at 5:40 PM, Jackson Foster <jrobfoster(at)gmail.com ([email]jrobfoster(at)gmail.com[/email])> wrote:

Looks like there will be a search for a new Russia now... I had contact with him after the fix but nothing since. If I do not get a response from him before the Autumn deadline passes then I will find a new player. Austria:
A Budapest - Rumania
A Serbia Supports A Budapest - Rumania
A Trieste - Vienna
A Tuscany - Rome
A Venice Supports A Tuscany - Rome


England:
F London Hold (*Dislodged*)
F North Sea Supports F London (*Cut*)
F Norwegian Sea - Clyde


France:
A Burgundy - Belgium (*Bounce*)
F English Channel - London
F Liverpool, no move received
A Spain - North Africa
A Wales Supports F English Channel - London
F Western Mediterranean Convoys A Spain - North Africa


Germany:
A Berlin - Silesia
A Denmark - Sweden (*Fails*)
A Holland - Belgium (*Bounce*)
F Kiel - Baltic Sea
A Munich Supports A Berlin - Silesia
F Norway - North Sea (*Fails*)
A Sweden - Norway (*Fails*)


Italy:
A Armenia - Ankara
F Ionian Sea - Tunis
A Rome Hold (*Dislodged*)
F Smyrna Supports F Aegean Sea - Constantinople


Russia:
F Black Sea, no move received
A Bohemia, no move received
A Rumania, no move received (*Disbanded*)
A St Petersburg, no move received
A Warsaw, no move received


Turkey:
F Aegean Sea - Constantinople
F Bulgaria(sc) - Constantinople (*Fails*)
A Greece Hold


English F London can retreat to Yorkshire.
Italian A Rome can retreat to Naples or Apulia.


Deadline for retreats is going to be Thursday at 23:00 GMT.








Fall 1904 Final (dc197) Kai Nov 15, 01:33 pm
Yeah sorry about the 197, dyp files and map here shortly. Yes, Russia was disbanded.

On Sat, Nov 15, 2008 at 12:22 AM, Packrat <brn2dip(at)yahoo.com ([email]brn2dip(at)yahoo.com[/email])> wrote:

Hey - any chance you can put 197 somewhere in the subject line? The fall posts have
not been getting into the correct folder.

Also, will there be a map and/or DPY file with the retreats?
I am assuming that since the silent Italian was disbanded the silent Russian will be as well.


From: Jackson Foster <jrobfoster(at)gmail.com ([email]jrobfoster(at)gmail.com[/email])>
To: former.trout(at)gmail.com ([email]former.trout(at)gmail.com[/email]); Stephen Lytton <stevelytton(at)hotmail.com ([email]stevelytton(at)hotmail.com[/email])>; Vincent Decattoire <vincentdecattoire(at)yahoo.fr ([email]vincentdecattoire(at)yahoo.fr[/email])>; kodiplomacy(at)gmail.com ([email]kodiplomacy(at)gmail.com[/email]); Gregory Stevens <stevens388(at)comcast.net ([email]stevens388(at)comcast.net[/email])>; joe payne <josepayne(at)gmail.com ([email]josepayne(at)gmail.com[/email])>; Packrat <brn2dip(at)yahoo.com ([email]brn2dip(at)yahoo.com[/email])>; Trevor Baillie <rtbaillie(at)hotmail.com ([email]rtbaillie(at)hotmail.com[/email])>; KLYNCH427(at)hotmail.com ([email]KLYNCH427(at)hotmail.com[/email]); dc197(at)diplomaticcorp.com ([email]dc197(at)diplomaticcorp.com[/email])
Sent: Friday, November 14, 2008 10:03:07 PM

Subject: Re: Fall 1904 Final



Alright guys, I got England's retreat but not Italy. As such the army is disbanded. Russia has not contacted me and as such a search for a replacement player will be put out. I will give a deadline after he is found.

Kai

On Tue, Nov 11, 2008 at 5:40 PM, Jackson Foster <jrobfoster(at)gmail.com ([email]jrobfoster(at)gmail.com[/email])> wrote:
[quote:51f2275325] Looks like there will be a search for a new Russia now... I had contact with him after the fix but nothing since. If I do not get a response from him before the Autumn deadline passes then I will find a new player. Austria:
A Budapest - Rumania
A Serbia Supports A Budapest - Rumania
A Trieste - Vienna
A Tuscany - Rome
A Venice Supports A Tuscany - Rome


England:
F London Hold (*Dislodged*)
F North Sea Supports F London (*Cut*)
F Norwegian Sea - Clyde


France:
A Burgundy - Belgium (*Bounce*)
F English Channel - London
F Liverpool, no move received
A Spain - North Africa
A Wales Supports F English Channel - London
F Western Mediterranean Convoys A Spain - North Africa


Germany:
A Berlin - Silesia
A Denmark - Sweden (*Fails*)
A Holland - Belgium (*Bounce*)
F Kiel - Baltic Sea
A Munich Supports A Berlin - Silesia
F Norway - North Sea (*Fails*)
A Sweden - Norway (*Fails*)


Italy:
A Armenia - Ankara
F Ionian Sea - Tunis
A Rome Hold (*Dislodged*)
F Smyrna Supports F Aegean Sea - Constantinople


Russia:
F Black Sea, no move received
A Bohemia, no move received
A Rumania, no move received (*Disbanded*)
A St Petersburg, no move received
A Warsaw, no move received


Turkey:
F Aegean Sea - Constantinople
F Bulgaria(sc) - Constantinople (*Fails*)
A Greece Hold


English F London can retreat to Yorkshire.
Italian A Rome can retreat to Naples or Apulia.


Deadline for retreats is going to be Thursday at 23:00 GMT.

















[/quote:51f2275325]
DC201 (Viking) - Spring 957 Adjudication - bielf11   (Nov 12, 2008, 12:43 pm)
Spring 957: only Norge and the Slavs see all of their orders succeed.
The Arabs bounce in Avignon with the Burgundese and are forced out of the barren lands of Toulouse upon their return.
Fleets and army of Burgundy and ERE are bouncing on the Tyrrhenian beaches of Napoli. The Burgundese were a bit surprised to see both the Roman fleet from Cagliari and the fleet from Napoli heading towards the Tyrrhenian Sea; just imagine what would have happened had one supported the other...
Heavy fighting between ERE and the Swedes over Prague resulting in a standoff. As a result the advance of the Swedish army in middle Europe comes to a grinding halt.
But it is not all war between these countries: a nice example is the joint operation of the Norge and Burgundese in Hamburg that was pulled off by the Swedes in Mecklenburg. Because the Slavs moved to Hedeby, they escaped unscathed.
This brings us to Summer 957; one retreat only (see below).

Adjudication:
-----------------------
ArabCaliphates:
A Segovia - Burgos
F Sevilla - Cordoba
A Toulouse - Avignon (*Dislodged*)

Burgundy:
F Berber Coast - Western Mediterranean Sea
A Bruges - Flanders
A Catalonia - Avignon (*Bounce*)
F Cordoba - Berber Coast
F Dorestad Supports F Groningen
A Flanders - Koln
A Genova Supports A Pisa
F Groningen Supports A Mecklenburg - Hamburg
A Koln - Frankfurt
A Lombardy - Venezia (*Bounce*)
A Mainz Supports A Koln - Frankfurt
A Paris - Verdun
A Pisa Supports A Lombardy - Venezia
A Roma Supports F Tyrrhenian Sea - Napoli
A Rouen - Paris
F Tyrrhenian Sea - Napoli (*Fails*)
A Verdun - Savoie
A Zurich - St. Gallen (*Fails*)

EasternRomanEmpire:
A Ancona Supports A Graz - Venezia
A Bavaria - St. Gallen
F Cagliari - Tyrrhenian Sea (*Fails*)
F Cherson Bight Supports A Kaffa
A Graz - Venezia (*Bounce*)
A Kaffa Supports A Khazar Empire
A Khazar Empire Supports A Kaffa
F Libyan Sea - Ionian Sea
F Napoli - Tyrrhenian Sea (*Fails*)
F North Black Sea Supports A Khazar Empire
A Paristria - Valakia (*Bounce*)
A Praha Supports A Ruthenia (*Cut*)
A Ruthenia Supports A Praha
F Strait of Sicily - Palermo
F Syracuse Supports F Napoli - Tyrrhenian Sea
A Taron Hold
A Tirol Supports A Bavaria - St. Gallen
A Transylvania - Valakia (*Bounce*)
F Tunis - Strait of Sicily
A Venezia - Lombardy (*Fails*)

SlavicNations:
A Aldeigjuborg - Holmgard
A Arkhangelsk - Karelia
A Burta Supports A Cumaniya
A Cumaniya Supports A Kjonugard
A Gardarike Supports A Burta
A Hamburg - Hedeby
A Kjonugard Supports A Cumaniya
A Vitebsk Hold
F Vladimir Hold

Norge:
F Bay of Biscay Supports A Nantes - Toulouse
A Bretagne - Lisboa
F Dogger Bank Supports A Mecklenburg - Hamburg
F English Channel - Irish Sea
F Gulf of Cadiz - Sevilla
A Hafrsfjord - Skiringssal
A Lapland Hold
A London - Hastings
A Maine - Nantes
F Mid Atlantic Ocean Convoys A Bretagne - Lisboa
A Nantes - Toulouse
A Noirmoutier Supports A Maine - Nantes
F North Sea - Sea of England
F Sea of England - English Channel

Sverige:
F Baltic Sea Supports F Bornholmer Sea
F Bornholmer Sea Convoys A Kalmar - Mecklenburg
A Brandenburg - Praha (*Fails*)
A Breslau Supports A Brandenburg - Praha
A Gdansk - Breslau (*Fails*)
A Jomsborg - Brandenburg (*Fails*)
A Kalmar - Mecklenburg
A Mecklenburg - Hamburg
A Memel - Prussia
A Przemysl Supports A Gdansk - Breslau (*Fails*)
F Reval Hold

Summer 957 retreats: just one:
Arabic A Toulouse can retreat to Auvergne; or OTB.

Deadline for the retreat is Thursday Nov 13 at 23:00 GMT.

A look ahead at the Fall 957 deadline: scheduled for Tuesday Nov 18 at 23:00 GMT.
Maps are included; the DPY file I'll include with the Summer adjudication.

Frank

[Reply]

WWIV today! - FuzzyLogic   (Nov 12, 2008, 12:06 pm)
Today’s the deadline! You have until this evening when I run the turn to get moves in if you haven’t already…
-mike

[Reply]

dc207 Mandate w368bc builds! (correction) - FuzzyLogic   (Nov 12, 2008, 11:46 am)
Another rule clarification, the neutral armies do not survive if they have no supply to keep them alive! Therefore only 2 neutrals remain in the game:

Neutrals:
A Handan (home center is Sung)
A Nan Tsechuan (home center is Lu)

**************************************************

The Neutral Lu go on the attack!

RETREATS

Yen: F Hsiangping - North Choson Sea
Neutrals: A Lu - Nan Tsechuan

BUILDS

Chii:
Build F Tsechuan

Chin:
Build A Yueyang
Build A Shang

Chu:
Build A Pengli

Hsiung-Nu:
Build A Tung Hsienpi

Shu:
Build A Hanchung
Build A Chang'an

Neutrals:
Remove A Chou
Remove A Pei Choson
Remove A Hsi Handan
Remove A Hsi Yueh
Remove A Nanchin

NEXT: Spring 02 (367bc) due Monday 11/17, 10am Pacific!
Enjoy,
-mike

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Aegean w10 builds! - FuzzyLogic   (Nov 12, 2008, 11:13 am)
19 centers – oh so close! Will the Spartans rule the Aegean? Will the lone Athenian survive the coming year? Just how many blue dots can one yellow fleet take? Find the answers to these… and more – Monday!

RETREATS:

Athens:
disband F Euboea
disband F West Aegean Sea

Macedonia:
disband A Ambracia
A Phrygia - Bithynia

BUILDS:

Macedonia:
Build F Dodona
Build A Troia

Sparta:
Build A Halicarnassus
Build A Corinthus

NEXT: Spring 11 due Monday 11/17, 10am Pacific!

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dc187 spring 06 results - catsfather   (Nov 12, 2008, 8:18 am)
Yeah, yeah, it's the spring 06 results, but...

Hamish Williams wrote:

Austria crushed ... is there any other way to phrase it?

Two retreats:

Russian A Bohemia can retreat to Tyrolia or Galicia.
German A Prussia can retreat to Berlin.

Deadline for the retreats will be Saturday, 15 November at 6pm GMT.
Germany, I'll assume you're retreating to Berlin unless you email to
say you want the army removed from the board.

H

Movement results for Spring of 1906. (dc187)

Austria: F Naples Supports A Rome (*Disbanded*).
Austria: A Rome Supports F Naples (*Disbanded*).

France: A Edinburgh Hold.
France: F Gulf of Lyon - Tyrrhenian Sea.
France: A London Hold.
France: A Marseilles - Piedmont.
France: F Mid-Atlantic Ocean - Western Mediterranean.
France: F North Africa - Tunis (*Fails*).
France: F Norwegian Sea - North Sea.
France: A Picardy - Burgundy.
France: F Tunis - Ionian Sea (*Fails*).
France: A Tuscany Supports A Marseilles - Piedmont.

Germany: F Baltic Sea Supports A Prussia (*Cut*).
Germany: F Denmark Supports F Baltic Sea.
Germany: A Munich - Bohemia.
Germany: A Prussia Hold (*Dislodged*).
Germany: A Silesia Supports A Munich - Bohemia.

Russia: A Bohemia - Silesia (*Dislodged*).
Russia: A Finland - Sweden (*Fails*).
Russia: F Gulf of Bothnia Supports F Sweden - Baltic Sea.
Russia: A Livonia - Prussia.
Russia: A Moscow - Ukraine.
Russia: F St Petersburg(nc) - Norway.
Russia: F Sweden - Baltic Sea (*Fails*).
Russia: A Vienna - Bohemia (*Fails*).
Russia: A Warsaw Supports A Livonia - Prussia.

Turkey: F Adriatic Sea Supports F Ionian Sea.
Turkey: A Albania - Naples.
Turkey: F Apulia Supports A Albania - Naples.
Turkey: F Ionian Sea Convoys A Albania - Naples.
Turkey: F Smyrna - Aegean Sea.
Turkey: A Trieste Supports A Venice.
Turkey: F Tyrrhenian Sea - Rome.
Turkey: A Venice Supports F Tyrrhenian Sea - Rome.

The following units were dislodged:

Russian A Bohemia can retreat to Tyrolia or Galicia.
German A Prussia can retreat to Berlin.

Unit locations:

France: A Burgundy, A Edinburgh, A London, F North Africa, F North
Sea, A Piedmont, F Tunis, A Tuscany, F Tyrrhenian Sea, F
Western Mediterranean.
Germany: F Baltic Sea, A Bohemia, F Denmark, A Silesia.
Russia: A Finland, F Gulf of Bothnia, F Norway, A Prussia, F
Sweden, A Ukraine, A Vienna, A Warsaw.
Turkey: F Adriatic Sea, F Aegean Sea, F Apulia, F Ionian Sea, A
Naples, F Rome, A Trieste, A Venice.

Ownership of supply centers:

Austria: Naples, Rome.
France: Belgium, Brest, Edinburgh, Liverpool, London, Marseilles,
Paris, Portugal, Spain, Tunis.
Germany: Berlin, Denmark, Holland, Kiel, Munich.
Russia: Budapest, Moscow, Norway, Rumania, Sevastopol, St
Petersburg, Sweden, Vienna, Warsaw.
Turkey: Ankara, Bulgaria, Constantinople, Greece, Serbia, Smyrna,
Trieste, Venice.

Austria: 2 Supply centers, 0 Units: Builds 0 units.
England: 0 Supply centers, 0 Units: Builds 0 units.
France: 10 Supply centers, 10 Units: Builds 0 units.
Germany: 5 Supply centers, 4 Units: Builds 0 units.
Italy: 0 Supply centers, 0 Units: Builds 0 units.
Russia: 9 Supply centers, 8 Units: Builds 0 units.
Turkey: 8 Supply centers, 8 Units: Builds 0 units.

The next phase of dc187 will be Retreats for Spring of 1906.

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dc187 winter 05 results - catsfather   (Nov 12, 2008, 8:16 am)
Austria crushed ... is there any other way to phrase it?

Two retreats:

Russian A Bohemia can retreat to Tyrolia or Galicia.
German A Prussia can retreat to Berlin.

Deadline for the retreats will be Saturday, 15 November at 6pm GMT.
Germany, I'll assume you're retreating to Berlin unless you email to say
you want the army removed from the board.

H

Movement results for Spring of 1906. (dc187)

Austria: F Naples Supports A Rome (*Disbanded*).
Austria: A Rome Supports F Naples (*Disbanded*).

France: A Edinburgh Hold.
France: F Gulf of Lyon - Tyrrhenian Sea.
France: A London Hold.
France: A Marseilles - Piedmont.
France: F Mid-Atlantic Ocean - Western Mediterranean.
France: F North Africa - Tunis (*Fails*).
France: F Norwegian Sea - North Sea.
France: A Picardy - Burgundy.
France: F Tunis - Ionian Sea (*Fails*).
France: A Tuscany Supports A Marseilles - Piedmont.

Germany: F Baltic Sea Supports A Prussia (*Cut*).
Germany: F Denmark Supports F Baltic Sea.
Germany: A Munich - Bohemia.
Germany: A Prussia Hold (*Dislodged*).
Germany: A Silesia Supports A Munich - Bohemia.

Russia: A Bohemia - Silesia (*Dislodged*).
Russia: A Finland - Sweden (*Fails*).
Russia: F Gulf of Bothnia Supports F Sweden - Baltic Sea.
Russia: A Livonia - Prussia.
Russia: A Moscow - Ukraine.
Russia: F St Petersburg(nc) - Norway.
Russia: F Sweden - Baltic Sea (*Fails*).
Russia: A Vienna - Bohemia (*Fails*).
Russia: A Warsaw Supports A Livonia - Prussia.

Turkey: F Adriatic Sea Supports F Ionian Sea.
Turkey: A Albania - Naples.
Turkey: F Apulia Supports A Albania - Naples.
Turkey: F Ionian Sea Convoys A Albania - Naples.
Turkey: F Smyrna - Aegean Sea.
Turkey: A Trieste Supports A Venice.
Turkey: F Tyrrhenian Sea - Rome.
Turkey: A Venice Supports F Tyrrhenian Sea - Rome.

The following units were dislodged:

Russian A Bohemia can retreat to Tyrolia or Galicia.
German A Prussia can retreat to Berlin.

Unit locations:

France: A Burgundy, A Edinburgh, A London, F North Africa, F North
Sea, A
Piedmont, F Tunis, A Tuscany, F Tyrrhenian Sea, F Western
Mediterranean.
Germany: F Baltic Sea, A Bohemia, F Denmark, A Silesia.
Russia: A Finland, F Gulf of Bothnia, F Norway, A Prussia, F Sweden, A
Ukraine, A Vienna, A Warsaw.
Turkey: F Adriatic Sea, F Aegean Sea, F Apulia, F Ionian Sea, A
Naples, F
Rome, A Trieste, A Venice.

Ownership of supply centers:

Austria: Naples, Rome.
France: Belgium, Brest, Edinburgh, Liverpool, London, Marseilles,
Paris,
Portugal, Spain, Tunis.
Germany: Berlin, Denmark, Holland, Kiel, Munich.
Russia: Budapest, Moscow, Norway, Rumania, Sevastopol, St Petersburg,
Sweden, Vienna, Warsaw.
Turkey: Ankara, Bulgaria, Constantinople, Greece, Serbia, Smyrna,
Trieste,
Venice.

Austria: 2 Supply centers, 0 Units: Builds 0 units.
England: 0 Supply centers, 0 Units: Builds 0 units.
France: 10 Supply centers, 10 Units: Builds 0 units.
Germany: 5 Supply centers, 4 Units: Builds 0 units.
Italy: 0 Supply centers, 0 Units: Builds 0 units.
Russia: 9 Supply centers, 8 Units: Builds 0 units.
Turkey: 8 Supply centers, 8 Units: Builds 0 units.

The next phase of dc187 will be Retreats for Spring of 1906.

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Dc180 correction - deathblade_penguin   (Nov 12, 2008, 6:32 am)
Correction

Russia build army warsaw and not army moscow.

I will send an updated map after I have had some sleep.


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Dc194 - 22 hour warning. - deathblade_penguin   (Nov 12, 2008, 4:01 am)
Dc194 Spring 1906 due next Thursday 13th at 8am GMT

I have no moves from England or Russia.


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Dc180 Winter 1907 - deathblade_penguin   (Nov 12, 2008, 3:54 am)
Dc180 Winter 1907

Austria:
Build A Vienna

England:
Remove F English Channel

France:
Build F Marseilles
Build F Brest

Germany:
Build A Berlin

Italy:
Remove A Apulia

Russia:
Build A Moscow

Turkey:
Remove F Adriatic Sea

Hopefully by our next deadline, Mick will have all his promises filled by BT.

Spring 1908 is due Thursday week, 20th November 8am GMT



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Why am I missing so many orders for Spring 1847? - psychosis1973   (Nov 12, 2008, 3:12 am)
Folks - I'm all for working towards having no NMRs and giving folk some leeway, but deadlines are deadlines...

--- On Tue, 11/11/08, Steve Caponigri <scaponig(at)yahoo.com> wrote:

From: Steve Caponigri <scaponig(at)yahoo.com>
Subject: RE: Why am I missing so many orders for Spring 1847?
To: sgttodd(at)mainecav.org, dc193(at)diplomaticcorp.com, "Andrew Tanner" <damienthryn(at)gmail.com>, "Former Trout" <former.trout(at)gmail.com>, "Stephen Lytton" <stevelytton(at)gmail.com>, "Mick Cox" <mickstagman(at)aol.com>, "Michael Thompson" <psychosis(at)sky.com>, "Michael Sims" <mike(at)southwall.com>
Date: Tuesday, 11 November, 2008, 7:52 PM
My Stuff's in.


--- On Tue, 11/11/08, Michael Sims
<mike(at)southwall.com> wrote:

[quote:75906292e7]From: Michael Sims <mike(at)southwall.com>
Subject: RE: Why am I missing so many orders for

Spring 1847?

To: sgttodd(at)mainecav.org, dc193(at)diplomaticcorp.com,

"Andrew Tanner" <damienthryn(at)gmail.com>,
"Former Trout" <former.trout(at)gmail.com>,
"Stephen Lytton" <stevelytton(at)gmail.com>,
"Mick Cox" <mickstagman(at)aol.com>,
"Michael Thompson" <psychosis(at)sky.com>,
"Steve Caponigri" <scaponig(at)yahoo.com>

Date: Tuesday, November 11, 2008, 11:18 AM
My pathetic 5 units have been ordered. If you all

don't

want to play
this one any more let's call it a DIAS!

-mike


-----Original Message-----
From: Gerald Todd [mailto:sgttodd(at)mainecav.org]
Sent: Tuesday, November 11, 2008 11:09 AM
To: dc193(at)diplomaticcorp.com; Andrew Tanner; Former

Trout;

Stephen
Lytton; Michael Sims; Mick Cox; Michael Thompson; GM;

Steve

Caponigri
Subject: Why am I missing so many orders for Spring

1847?
[/quote:75906292e7]

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