| 1915 Spring (End of Game) - test_gm (Sep 13, 2007, 12:00 am) |
Dc100 Spring 1915
Well it was a little bit of a wait for the last set of moves, but some would think it was worth it as the game has ended in an England-France-Turkey draw.
Yes - all players voted YES for the draw.
Final Standings are as of Winter 1915. EoG statements to be sent to dc100(at)diplomaticcorp.com (dc100(at)diplomaticcorp.com) please...
JOINT 1st.
Turkey - Manual Salzmann.
England - Tom 'Ordewin' Schulz.
France - Jason Gregory.
4th (Survivial)
Italy - Kevin O'Kelly
5th (Eliminated)
Austria - Derek Eyler Winter 1909
6th (Eliminated)
Germany - Dan Honig Winter 1905.
Russia played by Rene Kroll was declared CD in Winter 1911.
Stephen[Reply] |
| Game Update! - test_gm (Sep 13, 2007, 12:00 am) |
Adjudication today....
All moves Ironclad!
Gm sleepy.
Stayed up too late watching a stupid movie and ignoring my dip!!
NO LONGER I SAY!! I'VE TURNED OVER A NEW LEAF!
F[Reply] |
| DC106 Press - test_gm (Sep 13, 2007, 12:00 am) |
'Little' Israel speaks again,
Ukr, don't worry. Poland will be there to (take all your centers) help soon.[Reply] |
| Live Game - test_gm (Sep 13, 2007, 12:00 am) |
At least initially, yeah. If we get a format down that works, then maybe run one bi-monthly going forward, and open it up to any GM's that want to do it. Being it's only an evening of committment and not a year, we should get a lot of interest.
Ultimately I'm thinking of instead of having a single recruiting game, have a waiting-list set up that takes any number of players. Then come gametime, you have a long list of people that can show up for it, and it's more likely to get off the ground unlike the early revs of this we've tried.
-mike[Reply] |
| dc99 s07 Results! - test_gm (Sep 13, 2007, 12:00 am) |
I humbly admit to everyone that they were 100% correct, and that trusting Steve Lytton is tantamount to planting a dagger squarely between your own shoulder blades.
Further, I publicly declare that Austria is now nothing more than an extension of the Russian empire and that beneath the white dots are brown ones just waiting to be freed by victorious Cossack troops. The Archduke awaits the orders of his Russian masters.
Trout
On 9/27/07, Michael Sims <mike(at)southwall.com ([email]mike(at)southwall.com[/email])> wrote:
Next: Fall 07 due in 1 week: Thursday 10/4, 2pm Pacific!
There are 2 retreats but they both only have 1 option so I've taken the liberty to keep the game rolling…
Austrian A Trieste is dislodged to Budapest
German A Burgundy is dislodged to Ruhr
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Austria
A Sil -> Gal
A Boh->Vie
A Rum -> Ser
A Bul S Rum -> Ser (*CUT*)
A Con -> Ank (*FAILS*)
A Tri Holds (*DISLODGED to BUD*)
England
A Lon - Bel
F Hel - Hol
F Nth - Ska
A Par - Bur
F Pic S A Lon - Bel
F Eng C A Lon - Bel
F Nwy (nc) S F Nwg
F Nwg S F Nwy (nc)
Germany
NMR, All units Hold
A Bur is dislodged to Ruh
Italy
F rom - TYN
F Ion Supports A Alb
F Smy - Ank
F Aeg S F Smy - Ank
A Gre - Bul (*FAILS*)
A tyr - Tri
A Alb S A Tyr - Tri
A Mar S A mun
A pie - Ven
A mun s a paris - bur
Russia
F BAR S Stp
F Stp S Nwg -> Nwy
A Pru -> Sil
A Ber S Pru -> Sil
A War S Pru -> Sil
A Sev -> Rum
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SEISMICS
(All 4 succeed)
Austria: Split Naf/Tun - Join MAO/Ionian
England: Split Bur/Hel, Join Ruhr/Hol
Italy: Split WMS and GOL, Join TYN and Spain
Russia: split Bud/ser (join Apu/Vie)
[Reply] |
| From DC - no builds. messages truncated - test_gm (Sep 13, 2007, 12:00 am) |
LotM,
Can't find builds on DC / mail/ message boards / or
Moves Spring 1902/ SO3 - truncated. Please send
again or in text..
Peter / Germsny[Reply] |
| DC116 - Winter 04 Adjustments Extension - test_gm (Sep 13, 2007, 12:00 am) |
Hi folks,
The deadline for Winter 1904 adjustments was actually yesterday evening. My thanks to those of you who got orders in on time. However, as it currently sits, I'm missing three and a half sets of orders. Since I can honestly use the time myself, we will extend the winter deadline 48 hours to Saturday, September 29th (11:59 PM GMT).
Order up, please. Thanks,
Trout[Reply] |
| Unknown - test_gm (Sep 13, 2007, 12:00 am) |
I've found in my experience that the problems does not really lie with getting in the number of players but getting them to commit for the full game.. in the last 3 or 4 i've been in (admittedly some of them were delayed starts waiting for people to arrive).. we've played like 2 hours and then people say "oh i didn't realise it would take so long' or 'i have to go'..
i've never played in a live game that actually finished.
Perhaps with your scheduled time (and obviously nmrs for those who break beyond that).. this might be less of a problem.[Reply] |
| DC123 Shade Of The Bonsai - Fall 1571 - Idyll's En... - test_gm (Sep 13, 2007, 12:00 am) |
From the Message of Master Gokurakuji
If one will fix his heart in such a way and assist the world and its people, he will have the devotion of the men who see and hear of him
Tough times continue for the Uesugi as the Hojo bounce them from Mutsu, slight confusion reigns in the Mori ranks and its high times in the eastern waters as no less than four factions compete for the waters bordering the Pacific.
No retreats are required after the Fall, although we do say goodbye to two more Ronin armies in Yamashiro and Bungo. The Winter 1571 adjustment deadline will be set for Sunday, September 30th (11:59 PM GMT).
Fight on, mighty warriors. Send me an arrow if you spot any adjudication errors.
Cheers,
Trout
GAME NUMBER Shade Of The Bonsai A Sengoku Game Game Started: Thursday, August 30th
Current Turn: Fall 1571
Next Deadline: Winter 1571 Adjustments Sunday, September 30th (11:59 PM GMT)
The Honorable Players
Asakura Yoshikage: Joshua Gottesman joshua.gottesman(at)gmail.com ([email]joshua.gottesman(at)gmail.com[/email]) Chosokabe Motochika: David Cross bearlytzu(at)gmail.com ([email]bearlytzu(at)gmail.com[/email]) Hojo Ujimasu: Felix Kamchung felixkamchung(at)mac.com ([email]felixkamchung(at)mac.com[/email]) Mori Motonari: Samuel Smith samuelsmithf(at)yahoo.com ([email]samuelsmithf(at)yahoo.com[/email]) Oda Nobunaga: Bruce Quinn coebq(at)yahoo.com ([email]coebq(at)yahoo.com[/email]) Shimazu Yoshihisa: Jacob Traegar jacob.traeger(at)student.adelaide.edu.au ([email]jacob.traeger(at)student.adelaide.edu.au[/email]) Takeda Shingen: Nathan Deily ndeily(at)yahoo.com ([email]ndeily(at)yahoo.com[/email]) Uesugi Kenshin: Patrick Pottorff happyguy99993(at)yahoo.com ([email]happyguy99993(at)yahoo.com[/email])
Humble GM: Former Trout former.trout(at)gmail.com ([email]former.trout(at)gmail.com[/email]) Variant Info http://www.variantbank.org/results/rules/s/sengoku.htm
CURRENT SEASON:
FALL 1570 TAKEDA PRESS:
the cherry blossom
floats on tender spring breezes
rests on blood-soaked stones
FALL 1570 ORDERS:
SHIMAZU:
F Ariake Bay - Hyuga OK F Hyuga Coast - Bungo OK A Chikugo S F Hyuga Coast - Bungo OK
TAKEDA:
A Kozuke - Echigo [BOUNCE with NSH 1:1] A North Shinano - Echigo [BOUNCE with KOZ 1:1] A Etchu - Kaga OK A Musashi - Kai OK
UESUGI:
A Dewa-Mutsa [BOUNCE with HIT 1:1] F Noto Holds OK
ASAKURA:
F Hoki Hold OK A Omi - Yamashiro OK A Settsu Supports A Omi - Yamashiro OK A Tango - Bizen [BOUNCE with OSB 1:1]
CHOSOKABE:
F Bungo Straits - Hyuga Coast OK F Tosa - Tosa Bay OK F Osaka Bay - Bizen [BOUNCE with TNG 1:1]
HOJO:
A Hitachi - Mutsu [BOUNCE with DEW 1:1] F Pacific Ocean - Kumano Sea OK F Sagami Bay - Pacific Ocean OK
MORI:
Army from Bingo to Bitchu OK Fleet from Bitchu to Iyo VOID (No Such Unit) [GM NOTE: F KANMON STRAITS UNORDERED- HOLDS] OK [GM NOTE: F SUO SEA UNORDERED - HOLDS] OK [GM NOTE: A IZUMO UNOREDERED - HOLDS] OK
ODA:
A Owari to Ise OK F Totomi to Totomi Sea OK F Shima to Kii OK A Yamashiro S F Shima to Kii OK
EARLY WINTER 1571 RETREATS:
Ronin A Bungo is Automatically Disbanded
Ronin A Yamashiro is Automatically Disbanded
WINTER 1571 ADJUSTMENTS:
SHIMAZU: BUILDS 1 TAKEDA: BUILDS 2 UESUGI: DISBANDS 1 ASAKURA: BUILDS 1 CHOSOKABE: No Adjustments HOJO: BUILDS 1 MORI: BUILDS 1 ODA: BUILDS 2
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SHIMAZU:
3 Supply Centers - Sat, Osu, Hig GAIN: BUN 1 Army - Chg LOSE: 2 Fleets - Bun, Hyu BUILDS 1
TAKEDA:
4 Supply Centers - Kai, Ssh, Ecg, Mus GAIN: Koz, Nsh 4 Armies - Kai, Koz, Kag, Nsh LOSE: 0 Fleets - BUILDS 2
UESUGI:
2 Supply Centers - Not, Koz GAIN: 1 Army - Dew LOSE: Koz 1 Fleet - Not DISBANDS 1
ASAKURA:
4 Supply Centers - Ecz, Omi, Set, Ina GAIN: Yas 3 Armies - Set, Tng, Yas LOSE: 1 Fleet - Hok BUILDS 1
CHOSOKABE:
3 Supply Centers - Iyo, Tos, San GAIN: 0 Armies - LOSE: 3 Fleets - Osb, Hyc, Tob
HOJO:
3 Supply Centers - Sag, Izu, Kaz GAIN: Hit 1 Army - Hit LOSE: 2 Fleets - Kus, Pao BUILDS 1
MORI:
4 Supply Centers - Nag, Iwa, Bin, Chi GAIN: Izm 2 Armies - Bin, Izm LOSE: 2 Fleets - Kas, Sus BUILDS 1
ODA:
4 Supply Centers - Owa, Mik, Yat, Tot GAIN: Ise, Kii 2 Armies - Yat, Ise LOSE: 2 Fleets - Tos, Kii BUILDS 2
NEXT DEADLINE: WINTER 1571 ORDERS DUE SUNDAY, SEPTEMBER 30TH (11:59 PM GMT)!![Reply] |
| dc91 f08 results! - A Tom-ultuous day - test_gm (Sep 13, 2007, 12:00 am) |
Draw is voted down as 2 of the 5 players are eliminated.
A huge thank you to Tom & Tom for sticking it out to the end, and better luck next game! End-Game-Statements are always fun, send to the group and cc to dc091(at)diplomaticcorp.com ([email]dc091(at)diplomaticcorp.com[/email]), or wait till the game is over and I'll bring it up again.
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Next: Builds are due Monday 10/1, 2pm Pacific
Austria: Build 2
England: Build 2
Current Standings:
England: 15
Austria: 11
Russia: 8
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2 retreats but both are a forced disband in the winter so we can skip those:
France: disband A Piedmont
Italy: disband F Tunis
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Austria:
F Adriatic Sea - Ionian Sea
A Apulia Hold
F Greece Hold
F Ionian Sea - Naples
F Naples - Rome
A Rome - Venice
A Serbia - Bulgaria
A Tuscany Supports A Venice - Piedmont
A Venice - Piedmont
England:
A Belgium Supports A Paris - Burgundy (*Fails*)
A Brest - Gascony
A Burgundy - Marseilles (*Fails*)
F Denmark Supports A Kiel
F Gulf of Lyon - Tyrrhenian Sea
A Kiel Supports A Ruhr
A Marseilles - Piedmont (*Fails*)
F Mid-Atlantic Ocean - Spain(sc)
F North Sea Supports F Denmark
A Paris - Burgundy (*Fails*)
A Ruhr Supports A Kiel
F Tyrrhenian Sea - Tunis
F Western Mediterranean Supports F Tyrrhenian Sea - Tunis
France:
A Piedmont - Venice (*Dislodged*)
Italy:
F Tunis Hold (*Dislodged*)
Russia:
F Aegean Sea Hold
A Berlin Supports A Munich
A Bohemia Supports A Munich
A Galicia Hold
A Munich Hold
A Silesia Supports A Munich
A Smyrna Hold
F St Petersburg(sc) Hold[Reply] |
| DC 106 TWO ABS:: SPRING 1909 RESULTS - test_gm (Sep 13, 2007, 12:00 am) |
APOLOGIES FOR THE DELAY!!
Your GM cannot set deadlines all at the same time, then watch a movie, fall asleep and forget to adjudicate!! What kind of a GM am I???!!!
Perhaps someone is going after the wrong color? Red or Green? Who is going against whom?? Where is everyone? Who is John Galt?
You will soon be getting your Maps.
ALL PLAYER REMEMBER THAT YOU MAY VISION ANY PLACE DURING ANY PHASE.
PLEASE SUBMIT VISION REQUESTS IF YOU WISH.
Retreats are due on Monday, October 1st 23.59 EST GMT-4
if you have any.
Followed by Fall 1909 on Thursday October 4th, 23.59 EST GMT-4
Thank you.[Reply] |
| solving dropout problem in live game - test_gm (Sep 13, 2007, 12:00 am) |
Maybe if you have a list of extra people for the game, they could be standbys to take over for those leaving. Not the best solution, but could be useful.
Clagr[Reply] |
| DC106 PRESS - test_gm (Sep 13, 2007, 12:00 am) |
Poland's Statements
To Ukraine:
I failed to enter SIB because of Israel. My A KAR will be under your order. Plus, can you tell me the locations of Israel troops? I can see A PIE and A VEN; and I guess F ADR and A UMB.
To Spain:
This year will be your last chance to decide which side you are on. MID is the furthest place you can reach in the north. Eire will not be able to help you because he will die within 2 years. Ukraine will not help Israel because Israel has invaded Ukraine. Ukraine knows that I had many chances to overrun Ukraine, but I didn't do it because he is my friend and my sword against Israel.
If you decided to join me, you can answer me by doing the followings this fall:
1. F MID enter BRI, I will support you. BRI will be yours as long as it was kept as Fleet.
2. Let me enter SCH. I will then help you to take PIE.
Once you have done what I asked. I will:
1. Let you keep BRI, DIJ and LAN
2. Help you to take PIE and the rest of Italy except VEN.
3. If you want, I will send one fleet (or more if you wish) to the south and help you to take North Africa, and let you control them.
4. Once Israel is defeated, I will ask for draw game.
X X X[Reply] |
| DC104 Invitational - Fall 1907 - Blue Orchid - test_gm (Sep 13, 2007, 12:00 am) |
The trio of Italian boats navigated the Venice canals, speeding through the twisted maze of waterways. Around them, the sinking city burned as all hell rained down upon it. Twisted hunks of metal - ruined vessels from previous forays, created jagged obstacles in their path. The high-pitched whine of gunfire sounded all around them. Suddenly, the gunfire ceased.
"Three German boats behind us," reported the junior pilot, Green-Five
"Stay on target.." replied Green-Seven as he began evasive maneuvers. "Stay on target."
Machine-gun fire raked across Five's stern, his motor began to smoke. "I'm hit!"
"Get out of there, Five!" Green-Two, the lead vessel yelled back. "You can't do any good back there!"
"Sorry!" Green-Five rounded a corner, exiting the main canal trench. The German boats let him go, zooming after the two continuing Italian vessels. Green-Five weaved back and forth, desperately trying to shake them off. With merciless precision, the central German boat tracked him, then fired a burst of rounds into the boats fuel tank. Metal spewed in all directions as the fireball filled the canal.
Suddenly alone, Green-Two began his evasion pattern. Behind him, the central German boat tracked him, waiting for the Italian ship to fall into his gunsights. "Hmm, the Captain thought. The Luck is strong with this one."
Ahead, the German command post loomed. A dark metallic egg rising above the canals. As the Italian readied his bomb, the German behind him prepared to fire. Suddenly, a torpedo fell out of the sky, exploding the German boat on the right flank. Overhead, a Turkish plane zoomed by, the pilot giving a thumbs up and yelling "Yee-haw!!" The planes machine gun began to strafe the canal, pulverizing the German boat on the left. The central boat, spinning to avoid the explosion, hit some wreckage and launched up out of the canal and onto a city street.
"You're in the clear, kid!" Yelled the Turkish pilot. "Now blow this thing up and lets go home!"
Grinning broadly, Green-Two launched his bomb. Seconds later, explosions rocked the city as the German command post erupted in flames.... Venice had been retaken...
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Apologies to Lucas for the above hack-job. Yes, with a daring raid on Venice and a joint Austro-Turkish foray into Trieste, the rebel alliance deals a blow to the dark side and prevents a German solo. The Kaiser reaches 17 centers, a whisper from the 18 he needs for world domination. Meanwhile, receiving no help from France, England loses their last center in Brest and becomes eliminated.
Two retreats were needed after the Fall moves, but one was an automatic disband and the other had only one option so I took the liberty. The German army in Trieste was disbanded and, as mentioned, the black army in Venice was forced out to Piedmont. Mike, if OTB is preferred please just let me know. Otherwise, I'll set the Winter 1907 Adjustment deadline for Monday, October 1st (11:59 PM GMT).
Please let me know if you spot any errors in the adjudication. Cheers all,
Trout
DC104 Invitational A Standard Game Game Started: May 29, 2007
Current Turn: Fall 1907
Next Deadline: Winter 1907 Adjustments Monday, October 1st (11:59 PM GMT)
The Rowdy Cast
Austria: Bruce Ray raybrucea(at)aol.com ([email]raybrucea(at)aol.com[/email]) England: Steve Lytton stevelytton(at)hotmail.com ([email]stevelytton(at)hotmail.com[/email]) France: Felix Kam Chung felixkamchung(at)mac.com ([email]felixkamchung(at)mac.com[/email]) Germany: Mike Sims mike(at)jenningstech.com ([email]mike(at)jenningstech.com[/email]) Italy: Kevin O'Kelly kodiplomacy(at)gmail.com ([email]kodiplomacy(at)gmail.com[/email]) Russia: Mikael Johannsen m_don_j(at)hotmail.com ([email]m_don_j(at)hotmail.com[/email]) Turkey: Erik Swiatek swiatek(at)ruc.dk ([email]swiatek(at)ruc.dk[/email])
Humble GM: Former Trout former.trout(at)gmail.com ([email]former.trout(at)gmail.com[/email])
CURRENT SEASON:
FALL 1907 FRENCH PRESS:
DEATH TO THE KILLER OF THE FIAFRANCHETTO!!!
DIE PENGER DIE
FALL 1907 ORDERS:
ENGLAND:
F gas - spa (nc). [DEFEATED by MAR 2:1]
FRANCE:
F MAO-BRE [DEFEATED by PIC 2:1] F WMED-MAO [BOUNCE with MAO 1:1] A MAR-SPA OK F TYN-ROM OK F LYO-S A MAR-SPA OK
GERMANY:
F IRI-NAT OK F Pic-Bre OK F ENG S Pic-Bre OK A Bre-Par OK A Ruh-Bur OK A Mun-Tyr OK A Ven-Rom [DEFEATED & DISLODGED by ROM 3:2] A Tus S Ven-Rom OK A Tri S Alb-Ser [DISBANDED by ALB 2:1] A Gal-Vie [BOUNCE with BUD 1:1] A Pru-Sil OK A Lvn-Mos OK A StP S Lvn-Mos OK A War S Lvn-Mos OK F GOB-Swe OK
ITALY:
A Rom - Ven OK F ADR S Rom - Ven OK
RUSSIA:
A Rum --> Gal [BOUNCE with GAL 1:1] A Ukr --> Mos [DEFEATED by LVN 3:2 A Sev S A Ukr --> Mos OK F Bla S A Rum OK A Ser S A Alb --> Tri OK A Arm H OK A Bul S A Ser OK
TURKEY:
F Apu S Italian A Rom -> Ven OK A Gre S Russian A Ser Hold OK
AUSTRIA:
Albania - Trieste OK Budapest - Vienna [BOUNCE with GAL 1:1]
EARLY WINTER 1907 RETREATS:
German A Venice is Auto-Retreated to Piedmont
German A Trieste is Automatically Disbanded
WINTER 1907 ADJUSTMENTS:
ENGLAND: DISBANDS 1 FRANCE: No Adjustments GERMANY: BUILDS 3 ITALY: No Adjustments RUSSIA: DISBANDS 1 TURKEY: No Adjustments AUSTRIA: No Adjustments
UNIT / SUPPLY CENTER BREAKDOWN
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ENGLAND:
1 Supply Center - Bre GAIN: 0 Armies LOSE: Bre 1 Fleet - Gas DISBANDS 1
FRANCE:
5 Supply Centers - Par, Spa, Tun, Por, Mar GAIN: Rom 1 Army - Spa LOSE: Par 4 Fleets - Rom, Lyo, Wme, Mao
GERMANY:
15 Supply Centers - Mun, Kie, Ber, Bel, Hol, Den, Swe, Lon, Edi, Ven, Nwy, Lvp, Stp, War, GAIN: Par, Bre, Mos Vie LOSE: Ven 10 Armies - Tus, Bre, Ven, Gal, Stp, War, Mos, Bur, Tyl, Sil BUILDS 3 4 Fleets - Nat, Bre, Eng, Swe
ITALY:
2 Supply Centers - Nap, Rom GAIN: Ven 1 Army - Ven LOSE: Rom 1 Fleet - Adr
RUSSIA:
7 Supply Centers - Mos, Sev, Rum, Bul, Ser, Ank, Con GAIN: 6 Armies - Ser, Bul, Arm, Rum, Sev, Ukr LOSE: Mos 1 Fleet - Bla DISBANDS 1
TURKEY:
2 Supply Centers - Smy, Gre GAIN: 1 Army - Gre LOSE: 1 Fleet - Apu
AUSTRIA:
2 Supply Centers - Tri, Bud GAIN: 2 Armies - Tri, Bud LOSE: 0 Fleets
NEXT DEADLINE: WINTER 1907 ADJUSTMENTS DUE MONDAY, OCTOBER 1ST (11:59 PM GMT)!![Reply] |
| Guns, Germs and Steel 1264 / DC110 - Early Winter... - test_gm (Sep 13, 2007, 12:00 am) |
- BRITISH FLEET FAILS TO FIND SAFE HARBOUR IN THE AUSTRALIAN OUTBACK
- JUBILANT MEXICANS IN MAZATLAN WELCOME RETURN OF THEIR NATIONAL NAVY
- FACED WITH THE DARK HEART OF AFRICA, TURKISH TROOPS CHOOSE APOCALYPSE NOW
- BRAZILIAN NAVY RETURNS FOR SHORE LEAVE IN SOUTH GEORGE ISLANDS
Heya folks,
A substantial number of the retreats for Early Winter 1864 were off the board, and the Mexican retreat reclaims Mazatlan further altering the build count. Those who have already submitted prelims in, please double-check as the Early Winter results have substantially altered what is needed. We'll set the Winter 1864 Adjustment deadline for Monday, October 1st (11:59 PM GMT).
There was a slight error in my written adjudication for the Fall turn, which has been pointed out to me. The Japanese navy from the Phillipines and the British navy from Hong Kong bounced in the South China Sea 2:2. I have corrected this on the adjudication - there was no need to correct the map as it was all right already. My apologies for the mistake, and thanks to the player who pointed it out.
Should be good for now - please let me know if you spot any more goofs though. Thanks everyone!
Trout
Dip 1264 / DC110 Guns, Germs and Steel
An Imperial Variant Game Game Started: June 13, 2007
Current Turn: Early Winter 1864
Next Deadline: Winter 1864 Adjustments
Monday, October 1st (11:59 PM GMT)
The Assembly of Nations
Austria: Felix Kam Chung
felixkamchung(at)mac.com, felix388(at)mac.com ([email]felixkamchung(at)mac.com[/email]) Brazil: Ted Morley
Ted.Morley(at)SEN.CA.GOV ([email]Ted.Morley(at)SEN.CA.GOV[/email]) Britain: Steve Lytton
stevelytton(at)hotmail.com ([email]stevelytton(at)hotmail.com[/email]) China: Dave Watson
dipknight(at)comcast.net ([email]dipknight(at)comcast.net[/email]) Confederate States: Max Victory
max_victory(at)yahoo.com ([email]max_victory(at)yahoo.com[/email]) France: Lee Taylor
leewarrentaylor(at)yahoo.co.uk ([email]leewarrentaylor(at)yahoo.co.uk[/email]) Holland: Rudi van Hal
rvhgames(at)xs4all.nl ([email]rvhgames(at)xs4all.nl[/email]) Japan: Eric Grinnell
eric.grinnell(at)yahoo.com ([email]eric.grinnell(at)yahoo.com[/email]) Mexico: Randolph
ruffhaus8(at)aol.com ([email]ruffhaus8(at)aol.com[/email]) Prussia: Shane Whatsit
shanefgtoledo(at)yahoo.com ([email]shanefgtoledo(at)yahoo.com[/email]) Russia: Rob Bristol
rbristol(at)cogeco.ca, rbristol(at)cargojet.com ([email]rbristol(at)cogeco.ca[/email]) Turkey: Jerry Todd
sgttodd(at)mainecav.org ([email]sgttodd(at)mainecav.org[/email]) United States: Rupert Alesbury
writetorupert(at)gmail.com ([email]writetorupert(at)gmail.com[/email])
Humble GM: Former Trout
former.trout(at)gmail.com ([email]former.trout(at)gmail.com[/email]) Game Starting Map: http://www.diplom.org/Online/maps/imperial-small.gif Variant Description: http://www.diplom.org/Online/variants/imperial.html
CURRENT TURN:
FALL 1864 ORDERS:
HOLLAND:
F Andaman Sea (ase) Supports A Bangkok (bnk) - Rangoon (rng) OK F Arabian Sea(ara) - Madras (mds) [BOUNCE with MDS 2:2] A Bangkok (bnk) - Rangoon (rng) OK F Barrier Sea (brr) Supports F Timor (tim) - Perth (per) OK F Bay of Bengal (bbe) Supports A Bangkok (bnk) - Rangoon (rng) OK F Cape Town (ctn) Supports F Goodhope (goo) - South Atlantic (sat) OK A Congo (cng) - Angola (agl) OK F East Indian (ein) Supports F Gulf of Manaar (gum) OK F Goodhope (goo) - South Atlantic (sat) OK F Gulf of Manaar (gum) Supports F Arabian Sea(ara) - Madras (mds) OK F Gulf of Siam (gos) - Cambodia (cmb) [BOUNCE with CMB 1:1] F Java Sea (jse) - Timor (tim) OK F Malagasy Channel (mch) - Seychelles (sey) OK A Malaysia (mal) - Bangkok (bnk) OK F Maldives (mld) - North East Monsoon (nem) OK F New Guinea (ngu) Supports F Java Sea (jse) - Timor (tim) OK F South East Trades (set) Supports F Timor (tim) - Perth (per) OK F Timor (tim) - Perth (per) OK F West Indian (win) - Antarctic Indian Ocean(ain) OK
JAPAN:
F Bismark (bis) Supports F Luzon (luz) - Mindanao (mnd) OK F East China Sea (ecs) Supports F Philippine (phi) - South China Sea (scs) OK F Equatorial CounterCurrent (eco) - Kirbati Sea (kse) OK F Hawaii (haw) Supports F West Pacific (wpa) - Equatorial CounterCurrent (eco) OK F Kamchatka (kam) Supports F Sea of Japan (soj) - Vladivostok (vla) OK F Kuril (kur) - Westerlies (wst) OK F Luzon (luz) - Mindanao (mnd) OK A Manchuria (mac) Supports F Shanghai (sha) - Peking (pek) OK F Philippine (phi) - South China Sea (scs) [BOUNCE with HKO 2:2] F Sea of Japan (soj) - Vladivostok (vla) OK F Shanghai (sha) - Peking (pek) OK F West Pacific (wpa) - Equatorial CounterCurrent (eco) OK F Yellow Sea (yse) Supports A Manchuria (mac) OK
MEXICO:
F North Pacific Ocean - West Coast [BOUNCE with WBA 1:1] F Gulf of California convoys A Honduras - Mazatlan [DISLODGED by WCO 2:1] A Oaxaca supports A Honduras - Mazatlan VOID [Convoy Disrupted] A Honduras - Mazatlan VOID [Convoy Disrupted] F Western Caribbean Sea supports F Haiti - hold OK F Haiti supports F Western Caribbean Sea - hold OK
PRUSSIA:
Army Stutgart to Kiel [BOUNCE with KIE 1:1; DISBANDED by BAV 3:1] Army Ruhr support Army Stutgart to Kiel OK Fleet Kiel(ec) to Baltic Sea [BOUNCE with BAL 1:1] Army Holland support Army Stutgart to Kiel OK
RUSSIA:
Army Sof Holds OK Army Tsh Supports Army Orn To Bkh OK Army Teh To Afg OK Army Nmg Supports Mon To Lch OK Army Lvn To Stp [BOUNCE with BAR 1:1] Army Fin To Swe [DEFEATED by NWY 2:1] Army Khv Supports Army Orn To Bkh OK Army Mon to Lch OK Army Ber Supports Army Bav To Stut OK Army Ksl Supports Army Tsh OK Army Kir To Snk [BOUNCE with SNK 1:1] Army Orn To Bkh OK Army Geo To Bku [BOUNCE with BKU 2:2] Fleet Bal Supports Army Ber [CUT by KIE(ec)] Fleet Bla Supports Army Geo To Bku OK Fleet Rmn Supports Fleet Bla OK
TURKEY:
F Aegean Sea (aeg) - Crete (cre) OK A Angora (ang) Supports A Baku (bku) OK A Baghdad (bag) - Tabrize (tbr) OK A Baku (bku) Supports A Baghdad (bag) - Tabrize (tbr) [CUT by GEO] F Bangalore (ban) Supports A Karachi (krc) OK F Constantinople (con) - Sofia (sof)(ec) [BOUNCE with SOF 1:1] F Sudan (sud) - Red Sea (rse) OK A Tripoli (trp) Hold [DISLODGED by SAL 2:1]
UNITED STATES:
A Ala - Anc OK F Goa SUPPORTS A Ala - Anc OK F Wba - Wco [BOUNCE with NPA 1:1] F Wco - GoC OK F Son SUPPORTS F Wco - GoC OK A Sfo SUPPORTS A Nme OK A Nme SUPPORTS A Chc - Okl [CUT by CHU] A Chc - Okl [DEFEATED by AUS 2:1] A Sas - Neb OK F Ont SUPPORTS F Nyo - Que OK F Nyo - Que [BOUNCE with QUE 2:2] F Che - Nsc [BOUNCE with NSC 1:1] A Wdc - Ten OK F Ric - Ese [BOUNCE with BHA 1:1]
AUSTRIA:
A SIL S A VIE-BAV OK BAV-STU OK VIE-BAV OK A VEN-ROM [BOUNCE with PIE 1:1] SAL-TRP OK ADR C SAL-TRP OK ION C SAL-TRP OK BOS S RUSSIAN F SOF OK GR S BOS OK
BRAZIL:
F A Pacific – C Basin OK F S Pacific – SCT [BOUNCE with PBA 1:1] A BRC – BGT OK A LIM S A BRC – BGT OK A PRM – CYN OK A RDJ – AGL VOID (Convoy Dislodged) F B Current C A RDJ – AGL OK F S Atlantic C A RDJ – AGL [DISLODGED by GOO 4:2] F A Atlantic S F S Atlantic OK F Co Argentina – Drake OK F REC – M Atlantic [BOUNCE with MAT 1:1] F NE Trades S F VRG OK F VRG S F NE Trades OK
BRITAIN:
F Abyssinia (aby) - Somalia (som) OK F The Azores (azo) Supports F London (lon) - North Atlantic (nat) [DISBANDED by BOB 2:1] F Barents Sea (bar) - St Petersburg (stp)(nc) [BOUNCE with LVN 1:1] A Bokhara (bkh) Supports A Kashgar (ksg) - Kirghiz (kir) [VOID (No Such Order); DISBANDED by ORN 4:1] F Bombay (bom) Supports F Madras (mds) - Arabian Sea(ara) OK F Cochin (cch) Supports F Hong Kong (hko) - South China Sea (scs) OK A Denmark (den) Supports F Norway (nwy) - Sweden (swe) OK F Hadramaut (hdr)(sc) - Oman (oma) OK F Hong Kong (hko) - South China Sea (scs) [BOUNCE with PHI 2:2] F Horn of Africa (hoa) - Kenya (ken) OK F Hudson (hud) Supports F Quebec (que) OK F Hyderabad (hyd) - Madras (mds) [BOUNCE with MDS 1:1] A Karachi (krc), HOLDS OK F London (lon) - North Atlantic (nat) [BOUNCE with NAT 1:1] F Madras (mds) - Arabian Sea(ara) [BOUNCE with ARA 2:2] F North Atlantic (nat) - Chesapeake Approaches (che) [BOUNCE with CHE 1:1] f nth s a hol OK F Norway (nwy) - Sweden (swe) OK A Nova Scotia (nsc) Supports F Quebec (que) [CUT by CHE] F Perth (per) - Timor (tim) [DEFEATED and DISLODGED by TIM 3:2] F Quebec (que) Supports F North Atlantic (nat) - Chesapeake Approaches (che) [CUT by NYO] f qsl s f per - timor sea VOID (No Such Order) A South Australia (sau) - New South Wales (nsw) [BOUNCE with TAS 1:1]
CHINA:
A Can - TNK OK A YUT S A CAN - TNK OK A YUN - CAN OK A LCH S A PEK [DISLODGED by MON 2:1] A PEK S A LCH [DISLODGED by SHA 2:1] A SNK S A LCH [CUT by KIR] A KSH HOLD OK [GM NOTE: A CMB UNORDERED - HOLDS] OK [GM NOTE: A BEN UNORDERED - HOLDS] OK
CONFEDERATE STATES:
army Chihuahua move NME [BOUNCE with NME 1:2] army Aus move OKL OK army NOL support Aus move OKL OK army ATL move RIC [BOUNCE with RIC 1:1] fleet COA move AUS OK fleet GOM move CUB OK fleet TAMPA move ATL [BOUNCE with ATL 1:1] fleet BHA move E.SEABOARD [BOUNCE with RIC 1:1] fleet ECAR hold OK
FRANCE:
f tasmin to nsw [BOUNCE with SAU 1:1] f fij to sw.pac OK f cel to mnd [DEFEATED by LUZ 2:1] f p.bas to sct [BOUNCE with SPA 1:1] f tun support a sal to trp OK a met support a bav to stu OK a rou to hol [BOUNCE with HOL 1:1] a pie to rom [BOUNCE with VEN 1:1] f rom to sal OK f tyr support f rom to sal OK f tld to gib OK f biscay to azo OK f canary support f biscay to azo OK f nan to biscay OK f sar to n.atl [BOUNCE with NAT 1:1] f okn support f good hope to s.atl OK f ga.guinea support f good hope to s.atl OK f gcs to m.atl {BOUNCE with MAT 1:1] f m.atl to rec [BOUNCE with REC 1:1] [GM NOTE: A TNK UNORDERED - HOLDS] [DISLODGED by CAN 2:1] [GM NOTE: A CMN UNORDERED - HOLDS] OK
EARLY WINTER 1864 RETREATS:
Mexican F Gulf of California retreats to Mazatlan
Prussian A Stuttgart is Automatically Disbanded
Turkish A Tripoli retreats OTB
Brazilian F South Atlantic retreats to South George Islands
British F Azores is Automatically Disbanded
British A Bokhara is Automatically Disbanded
British F Perth retreats OTB
Chinese A Langchow retreats to Chunkiang
Chinese A Peking retreats to Wuhan
French A Tonkin retreats OTB
WINTER 1864 ADJUSTMENTS:
HOLLAND: BUILDS 1 JAPAN: BUILDS 5 MEXICO: DISBANDS 1 PRUSSIA: No Adjustments RUSSIA: DISBANDS 1 TURKEY: BUILDS 2 UNITED STATES: BUILDS 2 AUSTRIA: BUILDS 3 BRAZIL: BUILDS 1 BRITAIN: BUILDS 1 CHINA: No Adjustments CONFEDERATE STATES: DISBANDS 2 FRANCE: BUILDS 3
Unit / Supply Center Breakdown
Holland
20 Supply Centers - Ctn, Trn, Cey, Sum, Jav, Brn, Den, Okn, Rho, Amn, GAIN: Per, Rng Srw, Ngu, Mal, Ija, Bsw, Sey, Sgp, Mad, Bnk, Mld LOSE: Den, Okn 3 Armies - Agl, Rng, Bnk BUILDS 1 16 Fleets - Ctn, Bbe, Ase, Ngu, Ara, Ain, Nem, Ein, Tim, Gum, Set, Sey, Cey, Per,
Brr, Sat
Japan
13 Supply Centers - Oki, Kag, Edo, Sap, Luz, Fsn, Sak, Seo, Crl, For, Mhl, Poa, Sha GAIN: Vla, Mnc, Mnd, Haw, Pek 1 Army - Mnc LOSE: 12 Fleets - Mnd, Pek, Haw, Bis, Eco, Yse, Phi, Kam, Kse, Ecs, Vla, Wst BUILDS 5
Mexico
6 Supply Centers - Mer, Hon, Pan, Haw, Hai, Bgt GAIN: Maz 2 Armies - Hon, Oax LOSE: Haw, Bgt 4 Fleets - Hai, Npo, Maz, Wcs DISBANDS 1
Prussia
5 Supply Centers - Ruh, Ber, Kie, Stu, Hol GAIN: 2 Armies - Hol, Ruh LOSE: Stu, Ber 1 Fleet - Kie(ec)
Russia
19 Supply Centers - Stp, Mos, War, Sev, Grg, Oms, Orn, Irk, Vla, Anc, GAIN: Ber Rmn, Bku, The, Tsh, Mnc, Khv, Sof, Pru, Pek LOSE: Vla, Mnc, Bku, Anc, Pek 13 Armies - Sof, Tsh, Afg, Nmg, Lvn, Fin, Khv, Lch, Ber, Ksl, Kir, Bkh, Geo DISBANDS 1 3 Fleets - Bal, Bla, Rmn
Turkey
8 Supply Centers - Ang, Con, Cyp, Bag, Cai, Trp, Ban, Sud GAIN: Bku, Cre 3 Armies - Bku, Ang, Tbr LOSE: Trp 4 Fleets - Con, Cre, Ban, Rse BUILDS 2
United States
14 Supply Centers - Wdc, Nyo, Det, Sfo, Org, Sea, Neb, Kan, Maz, Vic GAIN: Anc, Chc, Nme Alb, Ric, Van, Yuk LOSE: Maz 6 Armies - Nme, Neb, Anc, Chc, Ten, Sfo BUILDS 2 8 Fleets - Goa, Ric, Ont, Son, Wba, Goc, Nyo, Che
Austria
11 Supply Centers - Vie, Bud, Crt, Ven, Rom, Ser, Sic, Sal, Bav, Gre GAIN: Stu, Trp Sil LOSE: Sal 7 Armies - Bav, Bos, Trp, Stu, Sil, Gre, Ven BUILDS 3 2 Fleets - Ion, Adr
Brazil
13 Supply Centers - Bra, Oli, Rec, Rdj, Prg, Brc, Uru, Vrg, Lpa, Fal GAIN: Bgt, Cyn, Lim, Sgr LOSE: 4 Armies - Lim, Bgt, Cyn, Rdj BUILDS 1 9 Fleets - Aat, Vrg, Spa, Sgr, Bcu, Net, Cba, Rec, Dra
Britain
23 Supply Centers - Lon, Edi, Dub, Gib, Nvs, Del, Bom, Prt, Hgk, Ade GAIN: Den Nwy, Krc, Azo, Grn, Nsw, Oma, Cch, Kas, Mds, Aby, Swe, Que, Qnl LOSE: Per, Azo, Gib, 4 Armies - Den, Nsc, Sau, Krc BUILDS 1 16 Fleets - Bom, Ken, Cch, Que, Nth, Bar, Hud, Swe, Qnl, Hyd, Hko, Som, Nat, Mds
Oma, Lon
China
9 Supply Centers - Lch, Chk, Snk, Can, Ben, Brm, Yut, Rng, Cmb GAIN: Tnk 9 Armies - Cnk, Cmb, Ben, Ksh, Yut, Snk, Tnk, Can, Wuh LOSE: Rng 0 Fleets
Confederate States
9 Supply Centers - Aus, Nol, Atl, Nme, Okl, Chi, Mxc, Bha, Cub GAIN: 4 Armies - Okl, Atl, Chu, Nol LOSE: Chc, Nme 5 Fleets - Ecs, Cub, Tam, Bha, Aus DISBANDS 2
France
21 Supply Centers - Nan, Mrs, Par, Crs, Mnv, Gcs, Sct, Sie, Ivc, Pie, GAIN: Okn, Azo, Gib, Sal Vlc, Prm, Glp, Nze, Vrd, Mrc, Tnk, Tun, Mnd, Fij, Cmn LOSE: Mnd, Tnk 4 Armies - Pie, Met, Cmn, Rou BUILDS 3 16 Fleets - Tun, Gib, Cny, Cel, Gog, Pba, Azo, Sal, Tys, Sar, Mat, Okn, Tas, Swp,
Bob, Gcs
NEXT DEADLINE: WINTER 1864 ADJUSTMENTS DUE MONDAY, OCTOBER 1ST (11:59 PM GMT)!![Reply] |
| Dc116 - Vogon's Revenge Winter 1904 - That Home - test_gm (Sep 13, 2007, 12:00 am) |
They weren't heavy-handed
The least force was expanded
But just when Marseilles
Got used to blue eyes
The German force got disbanded
Hi all,
Germany disbands in Marseilles, France in Gascony and Austria in Tyrolia. Meanwhile, Turkey builds an army in Smyrna and England builds an army in London to go with their new fleet in Edinburgh.
That would about cover Winter 1904. I'll set the deadline for Spring 1905 Orders for Wednesday, October 3rd (11:59 PM GMT.)
Cheers everyone!
Trout
DC-116 Vogon's Revenge A Standard Game Game Started:
Current Turn: Winter 1904
Next Deadline: Spring 1905 Orders Wednesday, September 3rd (11:59 PM GMT)
The Rowdy Cast
Austria: Doug Colex dcolex1(at)netzero.net ([email]dcolex1(at)netzero.net[/email]) England: Jason K. Githraine(at)yahoo.com ([email]Githraine(at)yahoo.com[/email]) France: Dem Young demjyoung(at)yahoo.com ([email]demjyoung(at)yahoo.com[/email]) Germany: William Tsoi williamtsoi(at)gmail.com ([email]williamtsoi(at)gmail.com[/email]) Italy: Neil Smark smark6(at)ozemail.com.au ([email]smark6(at)ozemail.com.au[/email]) Russia: Jorge Saralegui jorgesaralegui(at)verizon.net ([email]jorgesaralegui(at)verizon.net[/email]) Turkey: Greg Neilsen yeeha77(at)yahoo.com ([email]yeeha77(at)yahoo.com[/email])
Humble GM: Former Trout former.trout(at)gmail.com ([email]former.trout(at)gmail.com[/email])
CURRENT SEASON:
WINTER 1904 ADJUSTMENTS:
AUSTRIA: remove army trl; ENGLAND: Build Army in London, Build F Edi FRANCE: Disband Fleet in Gascony GERMANY: Disband A Marseilles ITALY: BUILDS Fleet Rome RUSSIA: No Adjustments TURKEY: Builds A Smy
UNIT / SUPPLY CENTER BREAKDOWN
------------------------------
AUSTRIA:
1 Supply Center - Tri
1 Army - Tri
0 Fleets -
ENGLAND:
5 Supply Centers - Lon, Edi, Bre, Den, Nwy
1 Army - Lon
4 Fleets - Den, Nwy, Bre, Edi
FRANCE:
2 Supply Centers - Par, Lvp
1 Army - Par
1 Fleet - Lvp
GERMANY:
5 Supply Centers - Mun, Kie, Hol, Bel, Mar
4 Armies - Kie, Ruh, Bel, Mun
1 Fleet - Nth
ITALY:
6 Supply Centers - Nap, Rom, Tun, Spa, Tri, Por
3 Armies - Por, Ven, Nap
3 Fleets - Tun, Spa(sc), Rom
RUSSIA:
8 Supply Centers - Mos, War, Sev, Stp, Swe, Rum, Nwy, Bud
6 Armies - Vie, Boh, Bud, Ber, Ukr, Arm
2 Fleets - Bal, Swe
TURKEY:
7 Supply Centers - Ank, Con, Smy, Ser, Gre, Bul, Rum
4 Armies - Rum, Ser, Bul, Smy
3 Fleets - Gre, Tyn, Ion
NEXT DEADLINE: SPRING 1905 ORDERS DUE WEDNESDAY, OCTOBER 3RD (11:59 PM GMT)!![Reply] |
| dc118 minigame - test_gm (Sep 13, 2007, 12:00 am) |
Spring ’03 maps are all out -- It’s getting vicious out there!
A few more minigame guesses, 4 for Steve and 1 for Trout, same as last season!
Player
Guesses
Submitted
Guesses
Correct
Eric
0
0
Felix
0
0
Fletch
0
0
Garry
0
0
Hamish
0
0
Mikael
0
0
Rob
0
0
Steve
4
4
Trout
1
1
Warren
0
0[Reply] |
| DC121 Winter 1902 - test_gm (Sep 13, 2007, 12:00 am) |
Alright sorry for the delay. Luckily the requested extension means the
schedule doesn't really change; Spring 1903 due Wednesday October 3 at 9
pm eastern. Please remember to send all emails to the new address:
matthew.kremer(at)yale.edu - as of next week the other one will be gone and
I won't even be able to check it as a backup.
Matt
Adjustments:
Austria:
Build Waived
France:
Build A Mar
Germany:
Build A Mun
Russia:
Remove F Bal
Remove A Mos
Map Attached[Reply] |
| DC121 Winter 1902 Take 2 - test_gm (Sep 13, 2007, 12:00 am) |
Hey guys,
So it seems we've had a bit of a communication failure. Dan (Austria)
apparently sent his build in before the deadline, but I did not receive
it. I also checked my spam folder and there were no emails from him,
which I did not find too surprising considering that my new email has
successfully received messages from all of you. Normally, and according
to my house rules, this would result in a "Build Waived," as was first
published. That said, with all the issues and kinks regarding the new
email and the deadline confusion, it is also possible that it slipped
through the cracks somewhere, so I'm inclined to let Austria have his
build. However, since this is going against my house rules, I'm also
opening up the floor to you all for complaints. If you think this is
unfair, just let me know. Just one complaint will trigger an anonymous
vote on the matter, and it will be settled that way.
Matt
Adjustments (Take 2)
Austria:
Build A Vie
France:
Build A Par
Germany:
Build A Mun
Russia:
Remove F Bal
Remove A Mos
Map Attached[Reply] |
| DC121 Winter 1902 Take 3 - test_gm (Sep 13, 2007, 12:00 am) |
Ok let's try one more time to get this right. Had it right the first
time and don't know why I switched it: France's build was in fact Mar
not Par. So here's hopefully the final addition.
Matt
Adjustments (Take 3):
Austria:
Build A Vie
France:
Build A Mar
Germany:
Build A Mun
Russia:
Remove F Bal
Remove A Mos
Map Attached[Reply] |
| Favorite country? - test_gm (Sep 13, 2007, 12:00 am) |
What is your favorite country to play?
(testing Polls)[Reply] |
| DC 103 IRONCLAD - test_gm (Sep 13, 2007, 12:00 am) |
ALL RETREATS IRONCLAD
FRANCE IS MISSING
HE HAS 24 HOURS[Reply] |
| Dc120 Winter 1901 - test_gm (Sep 13, 2007, 12:00 am) |
Dc120 Winter 1901
Sorry for the delay, could not locate one set of moves but all here now.
England:
Build F London
France:
Build F Brest
Germany:
Build A Munich
Build A Kiel
Build F Berlin
Italy:
Build F Venice
Russia:
Build A Warsaw
Build A St Petersburg
Turkey:
Build F Constantinople
Build A Smyrna
Spring 1902 is due next Fridat at 8pm, American EST.
[Reply] |
| dc111 - test_gm (Sep 13, 2007, 12:00 am) |
Orders are due tonight by 9pm pacific time.
- Josh[Reply] |
| Unknown - test_gm (Sep 13, 2007, 12:00 am) |
| Not seeing a way to vote.... [Reply] |
