| SV: DC406: GM MIA??? - trezdk (Feb 14, 2012, 8:23 am) |
He send a mail Saturday with Winter results. Barbarians Fra: Christopher Martin [mailto:dance.scholar(at)gmail.com]
Sendt: 14. februar 2012 15:16
Til: mrh(at)panix.com
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Emne: Re: DC406: GM MIA??? Hey gang - - sorry to spam you, but I haven't heard from our most awesome of GMs in . . . well, too long now. Anyone else, or has something gone wrong with my spam filter? DQ[Reply] |
| DC406: GM MIA??? - DancingQueen (Feb 14, 2012, 8:15 am) |
Hey gang - - sorry to spam you, but I haven't heard from our most awesome of GMs in . . . well, too long now.
Anyone else, or has something gone wrong with my spam filter?
DQ[Reply] |
| DC406: GM MIA??? (dc406) offdisc Feb 14, 09:50 am |
I'm here! I'm here! Just flying all day yesterday, so a little slow with 'rec'vd's.
(Thought I told everyone that I'd be travelling with limited Net access this weekend. Actually had great net access, but limited net TIME due to a 2-year-old nephew and 6-year old neice  ).
Mike
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"Sit Long, Talk Much, Laugh Often" -- anon
"Shared Pain is lessened, Shared Joy is increased" --- Spider Robinson
On Tue, Feb 14, 2012 at 7:15 AM, Christopher Martin <dance.scholar(at)gmail.com> wrote:
Hey gang - - sorry to spam you, but I haven't heard from our most awesome of GMs in . . . well, too long now.
Anyone else, or has something gone wrong with my spam filter?
DQ |
| dc411 Summer Retreats - notasb (Feb 14, 2012, 8:10 am) |
Board:
Austria - RickHunter - Mike Brady
England - metalwarlord - Stuart Winch
France- Godzilla - Marc Peters
Germany - Pete - Pete Marinaro
Italy - RICH3520 - RICH SLOPER
Russia - dkleiman - Dave Kleiman
Turkey - fantomas - jean-luc granier
Map:
http://home.comcast.net/~dawench/411/41104Summer.gif
Deadline:
Fall '04 is due Thursday Feb 16th 8 AM CST (GMT -6) 1400 GMT
Retreats:
Italy:
A Rome - Tuscany
Russia:
F Kiel - Helgoland Bight
A Munich - Silesia
Turkey:
F Ionian Sea - Greece
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"An ideal form of government is democracy tempered with assassination." -Voltaire[Reply] |
| DC412 - Spring 1904 Results - Corrino (Feb 14, 2012, 5:48 am) |
CORRECTIION:
Russian F Rumania retreats OTB.
Corrected .DPY and .GIF attached.
From: C Morse <camorse22(at)yahoo.com>
To: blitzforum <blitz(at)diplomaticcorp.com>; Bret Pollack <bret_pollack(at)hotmail.com>; Ed Bailey <EdBailey1946(at)yahoo.com>; Eric Palmer
<eric.s.palmer(at)gmail.com>; Joe Babinsack <chaosonejoe(at)yahoo.com>; Mick Cox <mickstagman(at)aol.com>; Nick Saywell <nicksaywell(at)vip.hr>; Steven Cooley <tmssteve(at)gmail.com>
Sent: Monday, February 13, 2012 9:06 PM
Subject: DC412 - Spring 1904 Results
Greetings, Gentlemen!
I hope you don't need me to remind you that tomorrow is the biggest Hallmark holiday of them all -- St. Valentines Day! Regardless of whether you embrace the day or hide from it, I wish you the best of what you desire. My personal perspective, having been married for 25 years and having raised three daughters, is not to let your natural male skepticism prevent you from doing something nice for your all your sweethearts.
(p.s. That's something "nice," not flashy and expensive. You owe to the brotherhood of men everywhere not to raise their expectations too high, your know? Thanks.)
Episode 8: Lonely Hearts
Austrians are red,Frenchmen are blue,They're both sad and lonelyAnd out of dots, too.
Comments
That "pop" you just heard is not the waiter opening your champagne, but the sound of the last French army being dislodged, disbanded and dissipated. Personally, I thought the French idea that the English and Italian fleets just share the opposite coasts of Spain was perfectly reasonable, but "Non," it was not to be. Au revoir, Monsieur Le President.The
Austrian army in Ukraine
is looking for refuge in Russia. No luck in Sevastopol. Not looking
great for the Fall, either, I would say; and yet, if this is indeed the
last quack for our noble ArchDuck, it is looking like it could be the
quack that breaks the Tsar Nicholas' back.Germany and Italy at war! Well, you might think that, seeing the bounce in Burgundy and the occupation of Bohemia and Tyrolia. Or then again, you might not.Turkey and Russia at war! Well, you might think that, seeing the Turks pushing into Rumania and Armenia. Or then again, you might not.RETREATS: Russian fleet Rumania auto-retreats to Black Sea. (NOTE: The only time I will auto-retreat units in the tournament is when there is just a single unit with only a single choice.) Russia may, if he wishes, decline the retreat and opt to have the unit removed from the board. He has until 18:00 EST tomorrow, February 14, to so notify me of that decision.
NEXT DEADLINE: Fall 1904 orders are due Thursday, February 16, at 18:00 Eastern
Time.
Cheers,
Chris
Orders as resolved. Please notify the GM immediately if you spot a mistake.========================================================Austria:
A Ukraine - Sevastopol (*Bounce*)
England:
F English Channel Supports F Gascony - Mid-Atlantic Ocean
A Finland Supports A Norway - St Petersburg
F Gascony - Mid-Atlantic Ocean
F Mid-Atlantic Ocean - Portugal
A Norway - St Petersburg (*Fails*)
F Norwegian Sea - Barents Sea
France:
A Portugal Supports F Mid-Atlantic Ocean - Spain(nc)
(*Disbanded*)
Germany:
A Belgium - Burgundy (*Bounce*)
A Berlin - Prussia
A Denmark - Kiel
F Holland - Helgoland Bight
A Kiel - Munich
A Munich - Bohemia
A Silesia Supports A Munich - Bohemia
Italy:
A Marseilles
- Burgundy (*Bounce*)
F Naples - Tyrrhenian Sea
A Rome - Venice
F Spain(sc) Supports F Mid-Atlantic Ocean - Portugal
A Trieste - Tyrolia
F Venice - Trieste
F Western Mediterranean Supports F Spain(sc)
Russia:
A Budapest - Vienna
A Galicia Supports A Prussia - Warsaw
A Moscow Supports A St Petersburg
A Prussia - Warsaw
F Rumania - Sevastopol (*Dislodged*)
A St Petersburg Hold
Turkey:
F Aegean Sea - Constantinople
F Albania - Ionian Sea (*Bounce*)
A Bulgaria - Rumania
F Eastern Mediterranean - Ionian Sea (*Bounce*)
A Serbia Supports A Bulgaria - Rumania
A Smyrna - Armenia[Reply] |
| dc407 Blitz Summer 1904 adjudication - jerome777 (Feb 14, 2012, 5:24 am) |
Hi everyone,Italy's Army Venice retreats to Tuscany. I'll send an updated map later on today when I get home from work. The next deadline is Autumn 1904, which is Thursday 16 February, 2100GMT. Best,JeromeSent from my BlackBerry® smartphone on O2From: Jerome Payne <jerome777(at)ymail.com>
Date: Mon, 13 Feb 2012 21:07:34 +0000 (GMT)To: Jerome Payne<jerome777(at)ymail.com>; john.robillard(at)telia.com<john.robillard(at)telia.com>; derekthefeared2(at)yahoo.com<derekthefeared2(at)yahoo.com>; hurup(at)pc.dk<hurup(at)pc.dk>; nephilli99(at)hotmail.com<nephilli99(at)hotmail.com>; psychosis(at)sky.com<psychosis(at)sky.com>; rick_powell_2000(at)yahoo.com<rick_powell_2000(at)yahoo.com>; untitled36(at)hotmail.com<untitled36(at)hotmail.com>ReplyTo: Jerome Payne <jerome777(at)ymail.com>
Cc: Blitz Messageboard<blitz(at)diplomaticcorp.com>Subject: dc407 Blitz Spring 1904 adjudicationHi gang, Here's your moves for Spring 1904: Austria:
A Bulgaria - Serbia
A Constantinople - Bulgaria
F Ionian Sea - Apulia
F Syria - Eastern Mediterranean (*Disbanded*)
A Trieste Supports A Tyrolia - Venice
A Tyrolia - Venice
A Vienna - Tyrolia England:
A Belgium Hold
F Edinburgh Supports F English Channel - North Sea
F London Supports F English Channel - North Sea
F North Sea - Helgoland Bight France:
A Burgundy Supports A Belgium (*Cut*)
F English Channel - North Sea
A Marseilles Supports A Burgundy
F Mid-Atlantic Ocean - English Channel
A Picardy Supports A Belgium Germany:
F Denmark Supports F Skagerrak - North Sea
A Holland - Belgium
(*Bounce*)
A Munich - Burgundy (*Fails*)
A Ruhr - Belgium (*Bounce*)
F Skagerrak - North Sea (*Fails*) Italy:
F Aegean Sea - Ionian Sea
A Apulia - Rome
F Eastern Mediterranean Supports A Smyrna - Syria
A Venice - Trieste (*Dislodged*) Russia:
A Ankara Supports A Armenia - Smyrna
A Armenia - Smyrna
F Black Sea - Constantinople
A Norway - Clyde
F Norwegian Sea Convoys A Norway - Clyde
A Rumania Supports A Constantinople - Bulgaria
F St Petersburg(nc) - Barents Sea
F Sweden - NorwayTurkey:
A Smyrna - Syria One retreat is needed. John, your Venice army retreats to either Piedmont, Tuscany, or OTB. If you can get me your retreat ASAP, and by 2100GMT tomorrow at the latest, I'll adjudicate as soon as I get it. The next deadline (except for John's retreat) is Autumn 1904, which is Thursday 16
February, 2100GMT. Finally, all you secret admirers out there, don't forget to get your cards through your paramour's letterboxes tomorrow...! Jerome
[Reply] |
| dc407 Blitz Summer 1904 adjudication (Winter Blitz) jerome777 Feb 14, 03:15 pm |
Hi everyone, Summer retreat: Italy:
A Venice - Tuscany Your next deadline is Autumn 1904, Thursday 16 February, 2100GMT. Jerome |
| dc407 Blitz Summer 1904 adjudication (Winter Blitz) hurup Feb 15, 02:15 am |
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Dear all,
I've had bouncing email for the last day or so. If you've sent me anything - resend. If not, do not
Poul
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Dato: Tir, 14. feb 2012 22:15
Emne: dc407 Blitz Summer 1904 adjudication
Hi everyone, Summer retreat: Italy:
A Venice - Tuscany Your next deadline is Autumn 1904, Thursday 16 February, 2100GMT. Jerome
** Poul Hurup ** |
| DC412 - Spring 1904 Results - Corrino (Feb 13, 2012, 8:06 pm) |
Greetings, Gentlemen!
I hope you don't need me to remind you that tomorrow is the biggest Hallmark holiday of them all -- St. Valentines Day! Regardless of whether you embrace the day or hide from it, I wish you the best of what you desire. My personal perspective, having been married for 25 years and having raised three daughters, is not to let your natural male skepticism prevent you from doing something nice for your all your sweethearts.
(p.s. That's something "nice," not flashy and expensive. You owe to the brotherhood of men everywhere not to raise their expectations too high, your know? Thanks.)
Episode 8: Lonely Hearts
Austrians are red,Frenchmen are blue,They're both sad and lonelyAnd out of dots, too.
Comments
That "pop" you just heard is not the waiter opening your champagne, but the sound of the last French army being dislodged, disbanded and dissipated. Personally, I thought the French idea that the English and Italian fleets just share the opposite coasts of Spain was perfectly reasonable, but "Non," it was not to be. Au revoir, Monsieur Le President.The
Austrian army in Ukraine
is looking for refuge in Russia. No luck in Sevastopol. Not looking
great for the Fall, either, I would say; and yet, if this is indeed the
last quack for our noble ArchDuck, it is looking like it could be the
quack that breaks the Tsar Nicholas' back.Germany and Italy at war! Well, you might think that, seeing the bounce in Burgundy and the occupation of Bohemia and Tyrolia. Or then again, you might not.Turkey and Russia at war! Well, you might think that, seeing the Turks pushing into Rumania and Armenia. Or then again, you might not.RETREATS: Russian fleet Rumania auto-retreats to Black Sea. (NOTE: The only time I will auto-retreat units in the tournament is when there is just a single unit with only a single choice.) Russia may, if he wishes, decline the retreat and opt to have the unit removed from the board. He has until 18:00 EST tomorrow, February 14, to so notify me of that decision.
NEXT DEADLINE: Fall 1904 orders are due Thursday, February 16, at 18:00 Eastern
Time.
Cheers,
Chris
Orders as resolved. Please notify the GM immediately if you spot a mistake.========================================================Austria:
A Ukraine - Sevastopol (*Bounce*)
England:
F English Channel Supports F Gascony - Mid-Atlantic Ocean
A Finland Supports A Norway - St Petersburg
F Gascony - Mid-Atlantic Ocean
F Mid-Atlantic Ocean - Portugal
A Norway - St Petersburg (*Fails*)
F Norwegian Sea - Barents Sea
France:
A Portugal Supports F Mid-Atlantic Ocean - Spain(nc)
(*Disbanded*)
Germany:
A Belgium - Burgundy (*Bounce*)
A Berlin - Prussia
A Denmark - Kiel
F Holland - Helgoland Bight
A Kiel - Munich
A Munich - Bohemia
A Silesia Supports A Munich - Bohemia
Italy:
A Marseilles
- Burgundy (*Bounce*)
F Naples - Tyrrhenian Sea
A Rome - Venice
F Spain(sc) Supports F Mid-Atlantic Ocean - Portugal
A Trieste - Tyrolia
F Venice - Trieste
F Western Mediterranean Supports F Spain(sc)
Russia:
A Budapest - Vienna
A Galicia Supports A Prussia - Warsaw
A Moscow Supports A St Petersburg
A Prussia - Warsaw
F Rumania - Sevastopol (*Dislodged*)
A St Petersburg Hold
Turkey:
F Aegean Sea - Constantinople
F Albania - Ionian Sea (*Bounce*)
A Bulgaria - Rumania
F Eastern Mediterranean - Ionian Sea (*Bounce*)
A Serbia Supports A Bulgaria - Rumania
A Smyrna - Armenia[Reply] |
| DC412 - Spring 1904 Results (Winter Blitz) Corrino Feb 14, 05:48 am |
CORRECTIION:
Russian F Rumania retreats OTB.
Corrected .DPY and .GIF attached.
From: C Morse <camorse22(at)yahoo.com>
To: blitzforum <blitz(at)diplomaticcorp.com>; Bret Pollack <bret_pollack(at)hotmail.com>; Ed Bailey <EdBailey1946(at)yahoo.com>; Eric Palmer
<eric.s.palmer(at)gmail.com>; Joe Babinsack <chaosonejoe(at)yahoo.com>; Mick Cox <mickstagman(at)aol.com>; Nick Saywell <nicksaywell(at)vip.hr>; Steven Cooley <tmssteve(at)gmail.com>
Sent: Monday, February 13, 2012 9:06 PM
Subject: DC412 - Spring 1904 Results
Greetings, Gentlemen!
I hope you don't need me to remind you that tomorrow is the biggest Hallmark holiday of them all -- St. Valentines Day! Regardless of whether you embrace the day or hide from it, I wish you the best of what you desire. My personal perspective, having been married for 25 years and having raised three daughters, is not to let your natural male skepticism prevent you from doing something nice for your all your sweethearts.
(p.s. That's something "nice," not flashy and expensive. You owe to the brotherhood of men everywhere not to raise their expectations too high, your know? Thanks.)
Episode 8: Lonely Hearts
Austrians are red,Frenchmen are blue,They're both sad and lonelyAnd out of dots, too.
Comments
That "pop" you just heard is not the waiter opening your champagne, but the sound of the last French army being dislodged, disbanded and dissipated. Personally, I thought the French idea that the English and Italian fleets just share the opposite coasts of Spain was perfectly reasonable, but "Non," it was not to be. Au revoir, Monsieur Le President.The
Austrian army in Ukraine
is looking for refuge in Russia. No luck in Sevastopol. Not looking
great for the Fall, either, I would say; and yet, if this is indeed the
last quack for our noble ArchDuck, it is looking like it could be the
quack that breaks the Tsar Nicholas' back.Germany and Italy at war! Well, you might think that, seeing the bounce in Burgundy and the occupation of Bohemia and Tyrolia. Or then again, you might not.Turkey and Russia at war! Well, you might think that, seeing the Turks pushing into Rumania and Armenia. Or then again, you might not.RETREATS: Russian fleet Rumania auto-retreats to Black Sea. (NOTE: The only time I will auto-retreat units in the tournament is when there is just a single unit with only a single choice.) Russia may, if he wishes, decline the retreat and opt to have the unit removed from the board. He has until 18:00 EST tomorrow, February 14, to so notify me of that decision.
NEXT DEADLINE: Fall 1904 orders are due Thursday, February 16, at 18:00 Eastern
Time.
Cheers,
Chris
Orders as resolved. Please notify the GM immediately if you spot a mistake.========================================================Austria:
A Ukraine - Sevastopol (*Bounce*)
England:
F English Channel Supports F Gascony - Mid-Atlantic Ocean
A Finland Supports A Norway - St Petersburg
F Gascony - Mid-Atlantic Ocean
F Mid-Atlantic Ocean - Portugal
A Norway - St Petersburg (*Fails*)
F Norwegian Sea - Barents Sea
France:
A Portugal Supports F Mid-Atlantic Ocean - Spain(nc)
(*Disbanded*)
Germany:
A Belgium - Burgundy (*Bounce*)
A Berlin - Prussia
A Denmark - Kiel
F Holland - Helgoland Bight
A Kiel - Munich
A Munich - Bohemia
A Silesia Supports A Munich - Bohemia
Italy:
A Marseilles
- Burgundy (*Bounce*)
F Naples - Tyrrhenian Sea
A Rome - Venice
F Spain(sc) Supports F Mid-Atlantic Ocean - Portugal
A Trieste - Tyrolia
F Venice - Trieste
F Western Mediterranean Supports F Spain(sc)
Russia:
A Budapest - Vienna
A Galicia Supports A Prussia - Warsaw
A Moscow Supports A St Petersburg
A Prussia - Warsaw
F Rumania - Sevastopol (*Dislodged*)
A St Petersburg Hold
Turkey:
F Aegean Sea - Constantinople
F Albania - Ionian Sea (*Bounce*)
A Bulgaria - Rumania
F Eastern Mediterranean - Ionian Sea (*Bounce*)
A Serbia Supports A Bulgaria - Rumania
A Smyrna - Armenia |
| dc393 - Game Over - Field_Marshal_Vague (Feb 13, 2012, 5:48 pm) |
Not much more for me to add to the excellent EOG's already.
I started the game in a strong alliance with Russia, which I think became apparent to everyone pretty rapidly. The initial Austrian player was completely silent, which discomfitted me at the beginning. I could have gone either way on attacking Austria or Turkey, but Doug's aggressive early moves against Tim pretty much settled that. Austria's lack of communication suggested to me that there was little chance of coordination between Turkey and Austria, so it seemed the thing to do to defeat them in detail: Turkey first, then Austria.
Then the initial Austrian player dropped out and Mike took over. I didn't realise it at the time, but this was the crucial moment for my game. Tim and I had a good plan of advance worked out for taking on Turkey, and I didn't
want to see that upset. Mike was making all the right noises about wanting to join in with this, and so foolishly I believed him, because it was convenient to believe him. First big mistake - no matter how invested I was in the existing plan, we should have torn it up and thrown it out as soon as the players changed. The second big mistake was in not thinking through that it was highly implausible Mike would side with Tim and me against Doug: he would surely realise he would be next on the menu.
My downfall was sealed by a seemingly innocuous decision: a failure to bounce an Austrian army from moving into Trieste. This apparently minor stab cost me Venice, and it was all downhill from there. I was immediately on the back foot, and stayed that way for the rest of the game. Briefly, France, Germany and myself rallied in a defence of western Europe, and I managed to regain Venice, but the defensive line was
fragile and precarious and relied on lucky breaks going our way. In the event that was irrelevant as James stabbed Buck and the whole thing started to unravel.
Mike made huge inroads into my home centres and I was left with just a couple of units. I couldn't blame Tim for leaving me in the lurch: it was the right call, and I would have done exactly the same thing in his shoes. However, by now he was moving against France and drawing James' attention to the north so I rolled the dice and lurched to the west, hoping to find a quiet spot away from trouble in Iberia and sit it out. It wasn't to be, but my fleet did get as far as Mid Atlantic and I briefly entertained the possibility of trying for somewhere in the British Isles!
The battle lines in the Med swung again and for a time I could camp out with my lonely unit in the Med, hoping to cling on for a survival. This lasted for longer than I could realistically
have hoped for, but once draw votes started being proposed and failing I felt I had to do something to try to exert any tiny influence I had left: the move to Adriatic was intended to throw a wildcard into central Europe. Hopefully, it would make the situation there unpredictable enough that the other players would accept the draw. By the sounds of it, that doesn't seem to have made much difference (though the plan evolved to one of trying to disrupt Austrian fleet movements - if the game had gone on a turn or so, who knows).
In the end it didn't matter, as somewhat to my surprise the draw passed. I didn't expect to be celebrating a one-centre survival (and not even a home centre at that), but this game has been an educational experience, and has been nothing short of fascinating from start to finish (even if I did spend much of it on the sidelines).
Thanks everyone for a great
game!
Ross.
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"Field_Marshal_Vague"
Ross Galloway
rgall.dip(at)btinternet.com
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--- On Sat, 11/2/12, Kevin O <kodiplomacy(at)gmail.com> wrote:
From: Kevin O <kodiplomacy(at)gmail.com>
Subject: dc393 - Game Over
To: dc393(at)diplomaticcorp.com, "Douglas Kent" <diplomacyworld(at)yahoo.com>, "james pillington" <mountaindew(at)btconnect.com>, "Michael Sims" <mike(at)fuzzylogicllc.com>, "Ross Galloway" <rgall.dip(at)btinternet.com>, "Timothy Crosby" <timothyl.crosby(at)gmail.com>
Date: Saturday, 11 February, 2012, 0:51
MESSAGE:
The 3-way Austria/Russia/Turkey draw proposal has passed with a unanimous vote.
Thanks to all that played through the game, made orders time, and put up with my delays. Please submit end of game statements. A final map will be added to the website later.
[Reply] |
| dc408 spring 1904 results! - coryfucius (Feb 13, 2012, 5:44 pm) |
More intrigue, as Germany assists an Austrian attack on Warsaw, France and Russia bounce in the Norwegian Sea, and Turkey pushes westward. Italy drives France out of Spain, but not before France's dislodged army actually helps to preserve Italy's control of Marseilles. Three units are dislodged, and two of them have multiple on-board retreat options, so we will have a summer retreat phase: The French fleet in the North
Atlantic Ocean may retreat to the Irish Sea, Mid-Atlantic Ocean, or OTB. The French army in Spain may retreat to Portugal or OTB. The Russian army in Warsaw may retreat to Moscow, Ukraine, or OTB. The Summer 1904 retreats will be due tomorrow, Tuesday 2/14 at 3pm Central (US) / 21:00 GMT. Thanks! Cory ----- Spring 1904 results: Austria:
A Budapest - Rumania (*Fails*)
A Galicia - Warsaw
F Trieste Hold England:
F Belgium - North Sea
F Clyde - North Atlantic Ocean
F
Edinburgh - Norwegian Sea (*Bounce*)
A Gascony Supports A Burgundy - Marseilles (*Cut*)
F Liverpool Supports F Clyde - North Atlantic Ocean France:
F North Atlantic Ocean Supports F Barents Sea - Norwegian Sea (*Dislodged*)
A Spain - Gascony (*Dislodged*) Germany:
A Bohemia - Silesia
A Burgundy - Marseilles (*Fails*)
F Denmark - Skagerrak
F Kiel - Denmark
A Prussia Supports A Galicia - Warsaw
A Tyrolia - Vienna Italy:
F Gulf of Lyon - Spain(sc)
A Marseilles Supports F Gulf of Lyon - Spain(sc) (*Cut*)
F Tunis - Tyrrhenian Sea
F Western Mediterranean Supports F Gulf of Lyon - Spain(sc) Russia:
F Barents Sea - Norwegian
Sea (*Bounce*)
A Moscow - Livonia
F Norway
- Sweden
A Rumania Supports A Ukraine - Galicia (*Cut*)
F Sevastopol Supports A Rumania
A Ukraine - Galicia
A Warsaw Supports A Ukraine - Galicia (*Dislodged*) Turkey:
F Black Sea Supports A Rumania
A Bulgaria - Serbia
A Constantinople - Bulgaria
F Greece - Ionian Sea
F Naples Supports F Greece - Ionian Sea
A Serbia - Albania
F Smyrna - Aegean Sea[Reply] |
| dc395 Autumn 1910 adjudication - jerome777 (Feb 13, 2012, 3:20 pm) |
Hi everyone, Here's your Autumn 1910 adjudication: Austria:
A Budapest - Serbia
A Bulgaria Supports F Black Sea - Constantinople (*Disbanded*)
A Galicia - Rumania
F Venice - Trieste
A Vienna Supports F Venice - Trieste England:
A Brest - Paris
F English Channel - Belgium (*Bounce*)
A Greece Supports A Constantinople - Bulgaria
F Mid-Atlantic Ocean - Brest
F North Sea - Holland (*Fails*)
A Norway - St Petersburg
F Norwegian Sea - Norway
A Picardy Supports A Brest - Paris
F St Petersburg(nc) - Barents Sea France:
A Paris Hold (*Dislodged - auto disbanded*) Germany:
F Albania Hold
A Sweden Hold
A Tyrolia Hold Italy:
F
Gulf of Lyon - Spain(sc)
F Ionian Sea - Albania (*Fails*)
A Spain - Portugal
A Tuscany - Venice
A Ukraine - Sevastopol (*Fails*) Russia:
F Baltic Sea Supports A Denmark
F Black Sea - Constantinople
A Denmark Hold
A Holland - Belgium (*Bounce*)
A Ruhr - Munich
A Sevastopol - Moscow (*Bounce*)
A Warsaw - Moscow (*Bounce*)Turkey:
F Ankara - Black Sea
A Constantinople - Bulgaria
A Smyrna - Armenia We say farewell to our first player - James! Thanks for taking part and thanks also for keeping me informed with the thinking behind your moves, sorry it didn't work out for you. EOG statements are of course welcome, though feel free to wait till the end of the game to post them if you wish. The draw fails, therefore we push on to winter adjustments: Adjustments:Austria: Supp
5 Unit 4 Build 1
England: Supp 9 Unit 9 Build 0
France: Supp 0 Unit 0 Remove 0
Germany: Supp 1 Unit 3 Remove 2
Italy: Supp 7 Unit 5 Build 2
Russia: Supp 9 Unit 7 Build 1
Turkey: Supp 3 Unit 3 Build 0
The deadline for your builds and disbands is 2100GMT tomorrow, please - though I'll adjudicate as soon as I get a full set of orders from you guys. Finally, all you secret admirers out there, don't forget to get your cards through your paramour's letterboxes tomorrow...! Jerome[Reply] |
| dc407 Blitz Spring 1904 adjudication - jerome777 (Feb 13, 2012, 3:07 pm) |
Hi gang, Here's your moves for Spring 1904: Austria:
A Bulgaria - Serbia
A Constantinople - Bulgaria
F Ionian Sea - Apulia
F Syria - Eastern Mediterranean (*Disbanded*)
A Trieste Supports A Tyrolia - Venice
A Tyrolia - Venice
A Vienna - Tyrolia England:
A Belgium Hold
F Edinburgh Supports F English Channel - North Sea
F London Supports F English Channel - North Sea
F North Sea - Helgoland Bight France:
A Burgundy Supports A Belgium (*Cut*)
F English Channel - North Sea
A Marseilles Supports A Burgundy
F Mid-Atlantic Ocean - English Channel
A Picardy Supports A Belgium Germany:
F Denmark Supports F Skagerrak - North Sea
A Holland - Belgium
(*Bounce*)
A Munich - Burgundy (*Fails*)
A Ruhr - Belgium (*Bounce*)
F Skagerrak - North Sea (*Fails*) Italy:
F Aegean Sea - Ionian Sea
A Apulia - Rome
F Eastern Mediterranean Supports A Smyrna - Syria
A Venice - Trieste (*Dislodged*) Russia:
A Ankara Supports A Armenia - Smyrna
A Armenia - Smyrna
F Black Sea - Constantinople
A Norway - Clyde
F Norwegian Sea Convoys A Norway - Clyde
A Rumania Supports A Constantinople - Bulgaria
F St Petersburg(nc) - Barents Sea
F Sweden - NorwayTurkey:
A Smyrna - Syria One retreat is needed. John, your Venice army retreats to either Piedmont, Tuscany, or OTB. If you can get me your retreat ASAP, and by 2100GMT tomorrow at the latest, I'll adjudicate as soon as I get it. The next deadline (except for John's retreat) is Autumn 1904, which is Thursday 16
February, 2100GMT. Finally, all you secret admirers out there, don't forget to get your cards through your paramour's letterboxes tomorrow...! Jerome
[Reply] |
| dc407 Blitz Spring 1904 adjudication - jerome777 (Feb 13, 2012, 3:07 pm) |
Hi gang, Here's your moves for Spring 1904: Austria:
A Bulgaria - Serbia
A Constantinople - Bulgaria
F Ionian Sea - Apulia
F Syria - Eastern Mediterranean (*Disbanded*)
A Trieste Supports A Tyrolia - Venice
A Tyrolia - Venice
A Vienna - Tyrolia England:
A Belgium Hold
F Edinburgh Supports F English Channel - North Sea
F London Supports F English Channel - North Sea
F North Sea - Helgoland Bight France:
A Burgundy Supports A Belgium (*Cut*)
F English Channel - North Sea
A Marseilles Supports A Burgundy
F Mid-Atlantic Ocean - English Channel
A Picardy Supports A Belgium Germany:
F Denmark Supports F Skagerrak - North Sea
A Holland - Belgium
(*Bounce*)
A Munich - Burgundy (*Fails*)
A Ruhr - Belgium (*Bounce*)
F Skagerrak - North Sea (*Fails*) Italy:
F Aegean Sea - Ionian Sea
A Apulia - Rome
F Eastern Mediterranean Supports A Smyrna - Syria
A Venice - Trieste (*Dislodged*) Russia:
A Ankara Supports A Armenia - Smyrna
A Armenia - Smyrna
F Black Sea - Constantinople
A Norway - Clyde
F Norwegian Sea Convoys A Norway - Clyde
A Rumania Supports A Constantinople - Bulgaria
F St Petersburg(nc) - Barents Sea
F Sweden - NorwayTurkey:
A Smyrna - Syria One retreat is needed. John, your Venice army retreats to either Piedmont, Tuscany, or OTB. If you can get me your retreat ASAP, and by 2100GMT tomorrow at the latest, I'll adjudicate as soon as I get it. The next deadline (except for John's retreat) is Autumn 1904, which is Thursday 16
February, 2100GMT. Finally, all you secret admirers out there, don't forget to get your cards through your paramour's letterboxes tomorrow...! Jerome
[Reply] |
| - AceRimmer (Feb 13, 2012, 2:20 pm) |
Now, that is some carnage folks! Four units dislodged. If we may safely assume that England will continue his streak on NRRs, then three of the four will result in disbandments. Perhaps all of this bloodshed will result in an end to war? Disgusted by the violence, rulers will put aside their petty geopolitical squabbles and value life? Well, at least one player is suggesting as much. There is an FGT draw proposal (what, no Austria? No Italy? No Russia?). But how can this pass without an England, you ask? Well... if England is reading, he will see this is his chance to still secure a survival. If not... well, the rules say that draws must have Yes votes from all non-eliminated players.
So... vote with your Fall orders. Votes will be tallied simultaneously with the Fall adjudication (a successful draw will supercede any and all Fall orders; anything else, and the carnage continues).
Meanwhile, this Spring...
In the West, France retreats to the safety the MAO-SPA-MAR stalemate line (not uncrackable yet, but no easy assault, either).
In the center, Italy is dislodged from Munich... but can retreat (and does auto-retreat) to Berlin!
In Russia, all the powers converge. With the last flickers of Tsarist aid, Germany disbands the Austrian army in Warsaw while Austrian armies rush up to reinforce. The Russian fleet in Sevastopol is scuttled.
And in England, the ornery Scots are ousted from Edinburgh. The English army in Ediburgh may retreat to Clyde, Yorkshire, or off the board. The order is due tomorrow at 2:00 CST.
Austria:
A Bohemia - Silesia (*Fails*)
A Budapest - Galicia
A Rumania - Ukraine
A Trieste - Tyrolia (*Fails*)
A Vienna Supports A Budapest - Galicia
A Warsaw Supports A Bohemia - Silesia (*Disbanded*)
England:
A Edinburgh Hold (*Dislodged*)
France:
A Burgundy Supports A Ruhr - Munich
F Gulf of Lyon - Spain(sc)
A Liverpool - Edinburgh
A Marseilles - Piedmont (*Bounce*)
F Mid-Atlantic Ocean Supports F Gulf of Lyon - Spain(sc)
F North Atlantic Ocean Supports F Mid-Atlantic Ocean
F North Sea Supports A Liverpool - Edinburgh
A Spain - Gascony
Germany:
F Baltic Sea - Prussia
A Kiel Supports A Ruhr - Munich
A Livonia - Warsaw
F Norway Hold
A Ruhr - Munich
A Silesia - Bohemia (*Fails*)
A St Petersburg - Livonia
Italy:
A Munich Supports A Bohemia - Silesia (*Dislodged*)
F Naples - Ionian Sea
F Rome - Tuscany
A Tyrolia - Piedmont (*Bounce*)
F Western Mediterranean Supports F Tyrrhenian Sea - Gulf of Lyon
Russia:
A Moscow Supports A Livonia - Warsaw
F Sevastopol - Rumania (*Disbanded*)
Turkey:
A Armenia - Sevastopol
F Black Sea Supports A Armenia - Sevastopol
A Bulgaria - Rumania (*Bounce*)
F Constantinople - Aegean Sea
F Tyrrhenian Sea - Gulf of Lyon[Reply] |
| dc410 spring 04 results - catsfather (Feb 13, 2012, 1:04 pm) |
Well, we're missing Turkey. Don't you southerners think that's him
finished, 'cause he's still able to order in the future.
Sweden looks popular at this time of year.
One disband ... Turkey and one retreat from England. English F North
Sea can retreat to London or Norwegian Sea or Edinburgh.
Movement results for Spring of 1904. (dc410)
Austria: A Budapest Supports A Vienna (*Cut*).
Austria: A Bulgaria Supports A Galicia - Rumania (*Void*).
Austria: F Greece - Ionian Sea.
Austria: A Serbia Supports A Bulgaria.
Austria: A Vienna Supports A Budapest.
England: F English Channel - Wales.
England: F North Sea Convoys A Yorkshire - Holland (*Dislodged*).
England: F Skagerrak - Sweden (*Bounce*).
England: A Yorkshire - Holland (*Fails*).
France: F Brest - English Channel.
France: A Burgundy Hold.
France: A Gascony Supports A Burgundy.
France: F Mid-Atlantic Ocean - Western Mediterranean.
France: A Tunis - Naples.
France: F Tyrrhenian Sea Convoys A Tunis - Naples.
Germany: F Baltic Sea - Sweden (*Bounce*).
Germany: A Belgium - Ruhr (*Bounce*).
Germany: F Denmark Supports F Helgoland Bight - North Sea.
Germany: F Helgoland Bight - North Sea.
Germany: A Holland - Ruhr (*Bounce*).
Germany: A Munich - Burgundy (*Fails*).
Italy: F Adriatic Sea - Apulia.
Italy: F Trieste - Adriatic Sea.
Italy: A Tyrolia - Piedmont.
Italy: A Venice - Rome.
Russia: A Galicia - Budapest (*Fails*).
Russia: F Norway - Sweden (*Bounce*).
Russia: A Sevastopol - Rumania.
Russia: F St Petersburg(sc) - Gulf of Bothnia.
Russia: A Ukraine Supports A Sevastopol - Rumania.
Turkey: F Black Sea, no move received.
Turkey: A Constantinople, no move received.
Turkey: A Rumania, no move received (*Disbanded*).
The following units were dislodged:
English F North Sea can retreat to London or Norwegian Sea or Edinburgh.
Unit locations:
Austria: A Budapest, A Bulgaria, F Ionian Sea, A Serbia, A Vienna.
England: F Skagerrak, F Wales, A Yorkshire.
France: A Burgundy, F English Channel, A Gascony, A Naples, F Tyrrhenian
Sea, F Western Mediterranean.
Germany: F Baltic Sea, A Belgium, F Denmark, A Holland, A Munich, F North Sea.
Italy: F Adriatic Sea, F Apulia, A Piedmont, A Rome.
Russia: A Galicia, F Gulf of Bothnia, F Norway, A Rumania, A Ukraine.
Turkey: F Black Sea, A Constantinople.
Ownership of supply centers:
Austria: Budapest, Bulgaria, Greece, Serbia, Vienna.
England: Edinburgh, Liverpool, London, Sweden.
France: Brest, Marseilles, Paris, Portugal, Spain, Tunis.
Germany: Belgium, Berlin, Denmark, Holland, Kiel, Munich.
Italy: Naples, Rome, Trieste, Venice.
Russia: Moscow, Norway, Sevastopol, St Petersburg, Warsaw.
Turkey: Ankara, Constantinople, Rumania, Smyrna.
Austria: 5 Supply centers, 5 Units: Builds 0 units.
England: 4 Supply centers, 3 Units: Builds 0 units.
France: 6 Supply centers, 6 Units: Builds 0 units.
Germany: 6 Supply centers, 6 Units: Builds 0 units.
Italy: 4 Supply centers, 4 Units: Builds 0 units.
Russia: 5 Supply centers, 5 Units: Builds 0 units.
Turkey: 4 Supply centers, 2 Units: Builds 2 units.
The next phase of dc410 will be Retreats for Spring of 1904.[Reply] |
| dc410 spring 04 results (Winter Blitz) catsfather Feb 14, 03:51 pm |
Okay, no word from England, so the unit is removed. Fall deadline is
Thursday at 18:00 GMT.
On 13 February 2012 19:04, Hamish Williams wrote:
Well, we're missing Turkey. Don't you southerners think that's him
finished, 'cause he's still able to order in the future.
Sweden looks popular at this time of year.
One disband ... Turkey and one retreat from England. English F North
Sea can retreat to London or Norwegian Sea or Edinburgh.
Movement results for Spring of 1904. (dc410)
Austria: A Budapest Supports A Vienna (*Cut*).
Austria: A Bulgaria Supports A Galicia - Rumania (*Void*).
Austria: F Greece - Ionian Sea.
Austria: A Serbia Supports A Bulgaria.
Austria: A Vienna Supports A Budapest.
England: F English Channel - Wales.
England: F North Sea Convoys A Yorkshire - Holland (*Dislodged*).
England: F Skagerrak - Sweden (*Bounce*).
England: A Yorkshire - Holland (*Fails*).
France: F Brest - English Channel.
France: A Burgundy Hold.
France: A Gascony Supports A Burgundy.
France: F Mid-Atlantic Ocean - Western Mediterranean.
France: A Tunis - Naples.
France: F Tyrrhenian Sea Convoys A Tunis - Naples.
Germany: F Baltic Sea - Sweden (*Bounce*).
Germany: A Belgium - Ruhr (*Bounce*).
Germany: F Denmark Supports F Helgoland Bight - North Sea.
Germany: F Helgoland Bight - North Sea.
Germany: A Holland - Ruhr (*Bounce*).
Germany: A Munich - Burgundy (*Fails*).
Italy: F Adriatic Sea - Apulia.
Italy: F Trieste - Adriatic Sea.
Italy: A Tyrolia - Piedmont.
Italy: A Venice - Rome.
Russia: A Galicia - Budapest (*Fails*).
Russia: F Norway - Sweden (*Bounce*).
Russia: A Sevastopol - Rumania.
Russia: F St Petersburg(sc) - Gulf of Bothnia.
Russia: A Ukraine Supports A Sevastopol - Rumania.
Turkey: F Black Sea, no move received.
Turkey: A Constantinople, no move received.
Turkey: A Rumania, no move received (*Disbanded*).
The following units were dislodged:
English F North Sea can retreat to London or Norwegian Sea or Edinburgh.
Unit locations:
Austria: A Budapest, A Bulgaria, F Ionian Sea, A Serbia, A Vienna.
England: F Skagerrak, F Wales, A Yorkshire.
France: A Burgundy, F English Channel, A Gascony, A Naples, F Tyrrhenian
Sea, F Western Mediterranean.
Germany: F Baltic Sea, A Belgium, F Denmark, A Holland, A Munich, F North Sea.
Italy: F Adriatic Sea, F Apulia, A Piedmont, A Rome.
Russia: A Galicia, F Gulf of Bothnia, F Norway, A Rumania, A Ukraine.
Turkey: F Black Sea, A Constantinople.
Ownership of supply centers:
Austria: Budapest, Bulgaria, Greece, Serbia, Vienna.
England: Edinburgh, Liverpool, London, Sweden.
France: Brest, Marseilles, Paris, Portugal, Spain, Tunis.
Germany: Belgium, Berlin, Denmark, Holland, Kiel, Munich.
Italy: Naples, Rome, Trieste, Venice.
Russia: Moscow, Norway, Sevastopol, St Petersburg, Warsaw.
Turkey: Ankara, Constantinople, Rumania, Smyrna.
Austria: 5 Supply centers, 5 Units: Builds 0 units.
England: 4 Supply centers, 3 Units: Builds 0 units.
France: 6 Supply centers, 6 Units: Builds 0 units.
Germany: 6 Supply centers, 6 Units: Builds 0 units.
Italy: 4 Supply centers, 4 Units: Builds 0 units.
Russia: 5 Supply centers, 5 Units: Builds 0 units.
Turkey: 4 Supply centers, 2 Units: Builds 2 units.
The next phase of dc410 will be Retreats for Spring of 1904. |
| dc410 spring 04 results (Winter Blitz) hapolley Feb 14, 04:05 pm |
Can We Have A Play Over from start??
With Warm Regards!
Hugh - hapolley(at)yahoo.ca
From: Hamish Williams <catsfather(at)gmail.com>
To: gizmo8204(at)yahoo.com; hapolley(at)yahoo.ca; dan.i.sinensky(at)gmail.com; josephmcoffey(at)yahoo.com; MDemagogue(at)gmail.com; mjn82(at)yahoo.com; wtfleming(at)msn.com
Cc: blitz(at)diplomaticcorp.com
Sent: Tuesday, February 14, 2012 2:51:52 PM
Subject: Re: dc410 spring 04 results
Okay, no word from England, so the unit is removed. Fall
deadline is
Thursday at 18:00 GMT.
On 13 February 2012 19:04, Hamish Williams <catsfather(at)gmail.com> wrote:
> Well, we're missing Turkey. Don't you southerners think that's him
> finished, 'cause he's still able to order in the future.
>
> Sweden looks popular at this time of year.
>
> One disband ... Turkey and one retreat from England. English F North
> Sea can retreat to London or Norwegian Sea or Edinburgh.
>
>
> Movement results for Spring of 1904. (dc410)
>
>
>
> Austria: A Budapest Supports A Vienna (*Cut*).
>
> Austria: A Bulgaria Supports A Galicia - Rumania (*Void*).
>
> Austria: F Greece - Ionian Sea.
>
> Austria: A Serbia Supports A Bulgaria.
>
> Austria: A Vienna Supports A
Budapest.
>
>
>
> England: F English Channel - Wales.
>
> England: F North Sea Convoys A Yorkshire - Holland (*Dislodged*).
>
> England: F Skagerrak - Sweden (*Bounce*).
>
> England: A Yorkshire - Holland (*Fails*).
>
>
>
> France: F Brest - English Channel.
>
> France: A Burgundy Hold.
>
> France: A Gascony Supports A Burgundy.
>
> France: F Mid-Atlantic Ocean - Western Mediterranean.
>
> France: A Tunis - Naples.
>
> France: F Tyrrhenian Sea Convoys A Tunis - Naples.
>
>
>
> Germany: F Baltic Sea - Sweden (*Bounce*).
>
> Germany: A Belgium - Ruhr (*Bounce*).
>
> Germany: F Denmark Supports F Helgoland Bight - North Sea.
>
> Germany: F Helgoland Bight - North Sea.
>
> Germany: A Holland - Ruhr (*Bounce*).
>
> Germany: A Munich -
Burgundy (*Fails*).
>
>
>
> Italy: F Adriatic Sea - Apulia.
>
> Italy: F Trieste - Adriatic Sea.
>
> Italy: A Tyrolia - Piedmont.
>
> Italy: A Venice - Rome.
>
>
>
> Russia: A Galicia - Budapest (*Fails*).
>
> Russia: F Norway - Sweden (*Bounce*).
>
> Russia: A Sevastopol - Rumania.
>
> Russia: F St Petersburg(sc) - Gulf of Bothnia.
>
> Russia: A Ukraine Supports A Sevastopol - Rumania.
>
>
>
> Turkey: F Black Sea, no move received.
>
> Turkey: A Constantinople, no move received.
>
> Turkey: A Rumania, no move received (*Disbanded*).
>
>
>
> The following units were dislodged:
>
>
>
> English F North Sea can retreat to London or Norwegian Sea or Edinburgh.
>
>
>
> Unit
locations:
>
>
>
> Austria: A Budapest, A Bulgaria, F Ionian Sea, A Serbia, A Vienna.
>
> England: F Skagerrak, F Wales, A Yorkshire.
>
> France: A Burgundy, F English Channel, A Gascony, A Naples, F Tyrrhenian
>
> Sea, F Western Mediterranean.
>
> Germany: F Baltic Sea, A Belgium, F Denmark, A Holland, A Munich, F North Sea.
>
> Italy: F Adriatic Sea, F Apulia, A Piedmont, A Rome.
>
> Russia: A Galicia, F Gulf of Bothnia, F Norway, A Rumania, A Ukraine.
>
> Turkey: F Black Sea, A Constantinople.
>
>
>
> Ownership of supply centers:
>
>
>
> Austria: Budapest, Bulgaria, Greece, Serbia, Vienna.
>
> England: Edinburgh, Liverpool, London, Sweden.
>
> France:
Brest, Marseilles, Paris, Portugal, Spain, Tunis.
>
> Germany: Belgium, Berlin, Denmark, Holland, Kiel, Munich.
>
> Italy: Naples, Rome, Trieste, Venice.
>
> Russia: Moscow, Norway, Sevastopol, St Petersburg, Warsaw.
>
> Turkey: Ankara, Constantinople, Rumania, Smyrna.
>
>
>
> Austria: 5 Supply centers, 5 Units: Builds 0 units.
>
> England: 4 Supply centers, 3 Units: Builds 0 units.
>
> France: 6 Supply centers, 6 Units: Builds 0 units.
>
> Germany: 6 Supply centers, 6 Units: Builds 0 units.
>
> Italy: 4 Supply centers, 4 Units: Builds 0 units.
>
> Russia: 5 Supply centers, 5
Units: Builds 0 units.
>
> Turkey: 4 Supply centers, 2 Units: Builds 2 units.
>
>
>
> The next phase of dc410 will be Retreats for Spring of 1904. |
| dc393 - Game Over - fencertim (Feb 13, 2012, 11:24 am) |
I have to admit, i was pretty upset....i was beginning to wonder if you were doing all of that on purpose just to get me going....it was a good tactic, there were times i was not thinking objectively.
tim
On Mon, Feb 13, 2012 at 11:15 AM, Douglas Kent <dougray30(at)yahoo.com> wrote:
I started the game attacking Russia because he was very aggressive and
demanding in his negotiations. I got one email from Austria, which was
enough for me, as I figured he'd have his hands full elsewhere.
Mike came in as Austria and I explained the situation to him...he was
getting the same read from Russia as I was, so we decided to work together which
also allowed him to focus on Italy (who at this point still thought I believed
we were allies). A number of times Mike switched sides, but I made my
position rather clear: I'd hold out if he attacked me, but Russia was going to
grow faster so I'd rather throw my dots to Mike than let Tim have any.
Plus Tim was so much more entertaining when he was mad - sort of like Jack
McHugh without the smelly socks. Sadly, we couldn't just attack Tim
forever, but eventually he was moving towards the solo.
I can't for the life of me understand France's moves late in the game, but
somehow the 3-way draw passed. I wouldn't have voted for it as
France. Actually, as Russia I would have fought on for a bit and hoped the
stalemate line couldn't be fully completed. Glad to have a piece of the
draw, and to get Tim so irritable at various times...made it fun.
From: Timothy Crosby
Sent: Monday, February 13, 2012 7:58 AM
To: Kevin O
Cc: dc393(at)diplomaticcorp.com ; Douglas
Kent ; james pillington ; Michael
Sims ; Ross Galloway
Subject: Re: dc393 - Game Over
Wow,
where to begin. It was a fun game thank you all for playing.
Thanks Kevin for running the game for us.
I entered the game thinking that i knew a fair amount about the game....i
had a couple of wins under my belt and my attitude and such got me into some
trouble here....however, regardless of how the game could have ended. I learned
more in this game than all of the others i have played in thanks to Mike and
Doug and Ross. You guys showed me things i had never considered and gave me a
whole new perspective that i have already put into practice in games i am in
now. I feel honored to be part of a wining draw when at a couple points in the
game i did not think i deserved to be there never the less playing the game at
all.
Things started off strange because no one heard a thing from the original
Austria but he has submitted prelims thus we moved on....I agreed to keep the
Black Sea open with Turkey, though he decided to come after me from the
start...which was fine, i was upset because he lied and i had no communications
with Austria which put me in a tough spot. My only other option was to befriend
Italy..we decided to wait and see what would happen with Austria for the Fall
and in the mean time we made plans to attack Turkey together....when Fall 01
arrived there were no Austrian orders so a ringer was brought in to take up the
vacant spot. There is where i ran into the problem of sticking with Italy or
trying to work with Austria....all the plans were laid out with Italy but I
wanted to go with Austria. The three of us talked about attacking Turkey
together, a LOT of discussion was going on.....Austria made the decision for us
by supporting Doug into Rumania so it turned into R/I vs. A/T. Mike i did get
you reasoning why you did that, but I would have dropped Italy in a second to
get back at Doug for stabbing me on the first turn. (sorry Ross) Several turns
were spent stagnating one another around GAL when Mike mentioned that we (RAT)
should join forces or spend the game doing nothing. I had seen a big move on
Germany since i was in GAL and WAR. I was very bitter with Turkey and it was
tough to give in but it worked out....Turkey moved up through GAL and i moved on
BER. I had to let Ross go because Austria needed a place to expand..i could not
come to your defense because this was the only option i had to get any
progress.
RAT went on for most of the game. We approached France to have him turn on
Germany just as England was falling out and that should have been the end of
Germany but France made some curious moves that drove two German armies into
France...I kept building fleets in the north which should have signaled to
France that i would be coming after him but France concentrated on getting
Germany out of his home centers as i moved my fleets closer. I think i made some
mistakes here by not taking either of the two chances i had to get into MAO....I
should not have stabbed France as early as i did i think now looking back.
France made a retreat of a fleet OTB that should have gone to IRI..at that point
I thought i was going to get a win....I think Mike say that too and made the
right move on the next turn to push his units north....you made the right call
at the right time Mike...I will strive to recognize those times because i do not
know that i would have done that were our positions switched and in the end i
would have lost, I think it was that close. If you did not make the move right
at that time the game was going to be lost.
Ross, i am glad you got a survival out of the game. I wanted to stick with
you as an ally but a great opportunity came up and i could not pass on it...I
would have loved to see how this last turn went especially that order for ADR.
Maybe it could have helped me win...we'll never know. Thanks for the game
Doug and Mike, thank you for being patient with me as i questioned
everything that was going on when we were putting RAT together. It was difficult
for me to break out of my single minded mode of thinking but it happened. I am
sure there was more than one time where it would have been easier to just wipe
me out and be done with it...i am glad that didn't happen. I look forward to
playing with you guys again.
Rene....F/G got the jump on you and it was too much to take...nice playing
with you again.
James, I treated you poorly and lied almost every turn....i told you i
would leave England alone then immediately attacked...then tried to patch things
up...then attacked again. As you were telling me that you would move south
though you kept moving fleets north so i did have to respond...with more fleet
builds than i wanted. Nice playing with you and i hope you are fully
recovered.
Buck, Mike made me do it! It was the only way out of 8 years of stalemate
until you were too strong to fight.
Kevin, thanks again for GMing...sorry to keep bugging you about the
resutls...the game was very intense at times.
I am sure i missed some thing from my perspective here but that is what i
remember the most. It was a lot of fun and very enlightening. This is one i will
not soon forget.
Tim
Russia
[Reply] |
| dc393 - Game Over - fencertim (Feb 13, 2012, 11:05 am) |
I
thought you would let Ross have one of those two spots..so I asked him to order
to ION and delay one of those fleets coming west..then if Turkey did not order
his fleets to sea then you would have had use TUN (if you took it) to support
GRE-ION and that would have given me a full year of fleet movements to the Med.we initially
thought that you would pull one of the armies back to cover but that would have
been too much to risk for in essence what would have been an exchange of
centers.
I
poured over every move I could find to try and win. I was going to lose two
centers to A/T so I had to find replacements for those, really i had to get the 4 that Mike mentioned then two more..and on top of that I had
to do it all with no new units. Maybe I could have done it but the weakest
part of my game is the finish. I found a way to open a home center but i just didn't know how A/T were going to play the next move...there were so many options...and i could have lost a lot more than two.
tim
On Mon, Feb 13, 2012 at 11:12 AM, Michael Sims <mike(at)fuzzylogicllc.com> wrote:
Nice game everybody! A big thanks to Kevin, it's always a pleasure to play in your games and I was happy to step in here. In particular, I enjoy the central powers of Austria and Germany, and here was a replacement spot after only a single turn had passed -- seemed like a great game to fill in for. But then I was in for a surprise, as I'd found RI had pretty much set up a team that was going to be nearly impossible to break. This left me w a sinking feeling in my stomach, for I could sense that AIR was going to take out Turkey, then RI would squeeze me between them and there wasn't much I could do about it.
So to break out of this mold, I went for a very early stab at Ross. I had to break up the 2-way RI somehow, and I didn't feel negotiations were doing it. It was mildly effective, but not quite deathly, as Ross managed to weather the worst of it and stay viable most of the game. The thing that really kept me alive was that Turkey and Russia got off to such a bad start w each other that I was pretty confident RT would fight while I slowly take out Italy. The animosity between RT was so strong, I couldn't figure out if it was for real even or just faked... but it turned out to be real, and that's what I attribute my survival to. They liked each other so little in this game that neither wanted to chance stabbing me for fear of losing to the other.
Naturally I hoped this dynamic would delay them as long as possible, slowly progressing vs Italy, trying everything I could to take you out Ross, after which point I felt I could re-enter the R-A-T negotiations w a safe back side, effectively 1-on-1-on-1.
But then in the west, England disintegrated, and FG got into a 2-way and started marching east way faster than I hoped. They weren't having any sort of the muddled struggle we were in the east. In light of this, I think I started the talks, but RAT came to the conclusion that we really had to stop leveraging vs each other and try to stop the FG who was otherwise going to steamroll east. This worked great, as Tim's pointed out below. We were able to push back with overwhelming strength. 3 on 2, we had the numbers on our side and no stalemate lines for the westerners with Tim pumping out fleets in the north. Around here we talked about doing a 3-way RAT ending.
Then I made a move that I consider questionable... As always, Tim wanting to in the background take Turkey out of the draw, at one point I bought in and made a stab at Turkey - hoping to take him out and end it in a 2-way AR. But, that was a disaster as the turn I stabbed him, he changed up a move as well, and we ended up breaking even when I was hoping to go +2/-2, and as a result, my stab was thwarted, and I felt like quite the schmuck.
Then things got kinda confusing tho, since France and Germany made some what I'd consdier sub-par strategic plays... France I think stabbed Germany mostly killing him off, then Germany sent his last few units into France... all this chaos, I think, was caused by Tim and his wonderful way with words... forever keeping F and G doing just what he wanted -- while constantly marching forward and taking their dots.
I think this explains it beautifully... "James, I treated you poorly and lied almost every turn....i told you i would leave England alone then immediately attacked...then tried to patch things up...then attacked again". I don't know how you managed to pull this off, constantly moving on FG, yet constantly re-convincing them to either attack each other or move south against me. This must have been some amazing diplomacy and showed some real skill here to make this happen. I remember tipping my hat to you for these feats of diplomacy several times during the game.
As a result, Russia managed to outgrow both Turkey and myself, and things started looking like a win for Russia, Turkey and I both put the recent turn's stab behind us, and we decided to move on Russia to stop the win, and that worked pretty well. We staked out a stalemate line across Tyr-Boh-Gal-Sev, and after that any remaining Russian dots would have to come from France, all while not losing any to TA. It would be tough. But still doable, especially considering the final removal of France, pulling off one of his last two fleets!!!
Tim, in light of France pulling off that last fleet, you had commanding control over the French seas, and I really don't see why you didn't play this out a bit more. 4 dots. Bre-Par-Por-Spa? I think you could have got them. It would have been a race, my and Turkey's fleets racing up to try to hold Spain. The other 3 would have fallen squarely to you. This is why I think my stab of Turkey was bad when I made it, cuz it killed our momentum to get out west and beat you to / help France hold Spain. But at the time, I wasn't thinking you'd still be able to convince France to keep moving south away from you.
I don't think Ross' move in the end to ADR would have changed much. I talked this over w Doug, and I was just going to let him have Ven or Tri, cuz it didn't affect the stalemate line. Then eventually he'd get squeezed out, so probly better to vote for any draw that gets a survival, and I'm happy you got that cuz you were one of the most active players in the game. This game was awesome in terms of the early negotiations. There was so much mail flowing between Ross, Tim, Doug, and myself, which made it a really exciting game. There were lots of stabs which kept it interesting, a solo race, and then a RAT draw which we talked about long ago, before we all got greedy and tried to figure out ways to squeeze so-and-so out.
Good game,
-mike
Austira
From: Timothy Crosby [mailto:timothyl.crosby(at)gmail.com]
Subject: Re: dc393 - Game Over
Wow, where to begin. It was a fun game thank you all for playing.
Thanks Kevin for running the game for us.
I entered the game thinking that i knew a fair amount about the game....i had a couple of wins under my belt and my attitude and such got me into some trouble here....however, regardless of how the game could have ended. I learned more in this game than all of the others i have played in thanks to Mike and Doug and Ross. You guys showed me things i had never considered and gave me a whole new perspective that i have already put into practice in games i am in now. I feel honored to be part of a wining draw when at a couple points in the game i did not think i deserved to be there never the less playing the game at all.
Things started off strange because no one heard a thing from the original Austria but he has submitted prelims thus we moved on....I agreed to keep the Black Sea open with Turkey, though he decided to come after me from the start...which was fine, i was upset because he lied and i had no communications with Austria which put me in a tough spot. My only other option was to befriend Italy..we decided to wait and see what would happen with Austria for the Fall and in the mean time we made plans to attack Turkey together....when Fall 01 arrived there were no Austrian orders so a ringer was brought in to take up the vacant spot. There is where i ran into the problem of sticking with Italy or trying to work with Austria....all the plans were laid out with Italy but I wanted to go with Austria. The three of us talked about attacking Turkey together, a LOT of discussion was going on.....Austria made the decision for us by supporting Doug into Rumania so it turned into R/I vs. A/T. Mike i did get you reasoning why you did that, but I would have dropped Italy in a second to get back at Doug for stabbing me on the first turn. (sorry Ross) Several turns were spent stagnating one another around GAL when Mike mentioned that we (RAT) should join forces or spend the game doing nothing. I had seen a big move on Germany since i was in GAL and WAR. I was very bitter with Turkey and it was tough to give in but it worked out....Turkey moved up through GAL and i moved on BER. I had to let Ross go because Austria needed a place to expand..i could not come to your defense because this was the only option i had to get any progress.
RAT went on for most of the game. We approached France to have him turn on Germany just as England was falling out and that should have been the end of Germany but France made some curious moves that drove two German armies into France...I kept building fleets in the north which should have signaled to France that i would be coming after him but France concentrated on getting Germany out of his home centers as i moved my fleets closer. I think i made some mistakes here by not taking either of the two chances i had to get into MAO....I should not have stabbed France as early as i did i think now looking back. France made a retreat of a fleet OTB that should have gone to IRI..at that point I thought i was going to get a win....I think Mike say that too and made the right move on the next turn to push his units north....you made the right call at the right time Mike...I will strive to recognize those times because i do not know that i would have done that were our positions switched and in the end i would have lost, I think it was that close. If you did not make the move right at that time the game was going to be lost.
Ross, i am glad you got a survival out of the game. I wanted to stick with you as an ally but a great opportunity came up and i could not pass on it...I would have loved to see how this last turn went especially that order for ADR. Maybe it could have helped me win...we'll never know. Thanks for the game
Doug and Mike, thank you for being patient with me as i questioned everything that was going on when we were putting RAT together. It was difficult for me to break out of my single minded mode of thinking but it happened. I am sure there was more than one time where it would have been easier to just wipe me out and be done with it...i am glad that didn't happen. I look forward to playing with you guys again.
Rene....F/G got the jump on you and it was too much to take...nice playing with you again.
James, I treated you poorly and lied almost every turn....i told you i would leave England alone then immediately attacked...then tried to patch things up...then attacked again. As you were telling me that you would move south though you kept moving fleets north so i did have to respond...with more fleet builds than i wanted. Nice playing with you and i hope you are fully recovered.
Buck, Mike made me do it! It was the only way out of 8 years of stalemate until you were too strong to fight.
Kevin, thanks again for GMing...sorry to keep bugging you about the resutls...the game was very intense at times.
I am sure i missed some thing from my perspective here but that is what i remember the most. It was a lot of fun and very enlightening. This is one i will not soon forget.
Tim
Russia[Reply] |
| dc393 - Game Over - FuzzyLogic (Feb 13, 2012, 10:12 am) |
Nice game everybody! A big thanks to Kevin, it's always a pleasure to play in your games and I was happy to step in here. In particular, I enjoy the central powers of Austria and Germany, and here was a replacement spot after only a single turn had passed -- seemed like a great game to fill in for. But then I was in for a surprise, as I'd found RI had pretty much set up a team that was going to be nearly impossible to break. This left me w a sinking feeling in my stomach, for I could sense that AIR was going to take out Turkey, then RI would squeeze me between them and there wasn't much I could do about it.
So to break out of this mold, I went for a very early stab at Ross. I had to break up the 2-way RI somehow, and I didn't feel negotiations were doing it. It was mildly effective, but not quite deathly, as Ross managed to weather the worst of it and stay viable most of the game. The thing that really kept me alive was that Turkey and Russia got off to such a bad start w each other that I was pretty confident RT would fight while I slowly take out Italy. The animosity between RT was so strong, I couldn't figure out if it was for real even or just faked... but it turned out to be real, and that's what I attribute my survival to. They liked each other so little in this game that neither wanted to chance stabbing me for fear of losing to the other.
Naturally I hoped this dynamic would delay them as long as possible, slowly progressing vs Italy, trying everything I could to take you out Ross, after which point I felt I could re-enter the R-A-T negotiations w a safe back side, effectively 1-on-1-on-1.
But then in the west, England disintegrated, and FG got into a 2-way and started marching east way faster than I hoped. They weren't having any sort of the muddled struggle we were in the east. In light of this, I think I started the talks, but RAT came to the conclusion that we really had to stop leveraging vs each other and try to stop the FG who was otherwise going to steamroll east. This worked great, as Tim's pointed out below. We were able to push back with overwhelming strength. 3 on 2, we had the numbers on our side and no stalemate lines for the westerners with Tim pumping out fleets in the north. Around here we talked about doing a 3-way RAT ending.
Then I made a move that I consider questionable... As always, Tim wanting to in the background take Turkey out of the draw, at one point I bought in and made a stab at Turkey - hoping to take him out and end it in a 2-way AR. But, that was a disaster as the turn I stabbed him, he changed up a move as well, and we ended up breaking even when I was hoping to go +2/-2, and as a result, my stab was thwarted, and I felt like quite the schmuck.
Then things got kinda confusing tho, since France and Germany made some what I'd consdier sub-par strategic plays... France I think stabbed Germany mostly killing him off, then Germany sent his last few units into France... all this chaos, I think, was caused by Tim and his wonderful way with words... forever keeping F and G doing just what he wanted -- while constantly marching forward and taking their dots.
I think this explains it beautifully... "James, I treated you poorly and lied almost every turn....i told you i would leave England alone then immediately attacked...then tried to patch things up...then attacked again". I don't know how you managed to pull this off, constantly moving on FG, yet constantly re-convincing them to either attack each other or move south against me. This must have been some amazing diplomacy and showed some real skill here to make this happen. I remember tipping my hat to you for these feats of diplomacy several times during the game.
As a result, Russia managed to outgrow both Turkey and myself, and things started looking like a win for Russia, Turkey and I both put the recent turn's stab behind us, and we decided to move on Russia to stop the win, and that worked pretty well. We staked out a stalemate line across Tyr-Boh-Gal-Sev, and after that any remaining Russian dots would have to come from France, all while not losing any to TA. It would be tough. But still doable, especially considering the final removal of France, pulling off one of his last two fleets!!!
Tim, in light of France pulling off that last fleet, you had commanding control over the French seas, and I really don't see why you didn't play this out a bit more. 4 dots. Bre-Par-Por-Spa? I think you could have got them. It would have been a race, my and Turkey's fleets racing up to try to hold Spain. The other 3 would have fallen squarely to you. This is why I think my stab of Turkey was bad when I made it, cuz it killed our momentum to get out west and beat you to / help France hold Spain. But at the time, I wasn't thinking you'd still be able to convince France to keep moving south away from you.
I don't think Ross' move in the end to ADR would have changed much. I talked this over w Doug, and I was just going to let him have Ven or Tri, cuz it didn't affect the stalemate line. Then eventually he'd get squeezed out, so probly better to vote for any draw that gets a survival, and I'm happy you got that cuz you were one of the most active players in the game. This game was awesome in terms of the early negotiations. There was so much mail flowing between Ross, Tim, Doug, and myself, which made it a really exciting game. There were lots of stabs which kept it interesting, a solo race, and then a RAT draw which we talked about long ago, before we all got greedy and tried to figure out ways to squeeze so-and-so out.
Good game,
-mike
Austira
From: Timothy Crosby [mailto:timothyl.crosby(at)gmail.com]
Subject: Re: dc393 - Game Over
Wow, where to begin. It was a fun game thank you all for playing.
Thanks Kevin for running the game for us.
I entered the game thinking that i knew a fair amount about the game....i had a couple of wins under my belt and my attitude and such got me into some trouble here....however, regardless of how the game could have ended. I learned more in this game than all of the others i have played in thanks to Mike and Doug and Ross. You guys showed me things i had never considered and gave me a whole new perspective that i have already put into practice in games i am in now. I feel honored to be part of a wining draw when at a couple points in the game i did not think i deserved to be there never the less playing the game at all.
Things started off strange because no one heard a thing from the original Austria but he has submitted prelims thus we moved on....I agreed to keep the Black Sea open with Turkey, though he decided to come after me from the start...which was fine, i was upset because he lied and i had no communications with Austria which put me in a tough spot. My only other option was to befriend Italy..we decided to wait and see what would happen with Austria for the Fall and in the mean time we made plans to attack Turkey together....when Fall 01 arrived there were no Austrian orders so a ringer was brought in to take up the vacant spot. There is where i ran into the problem of sticking with Italy or trying to work with Austria....all the plans were laid out with Italy but I wanted to go with Austria. The three of us talked about attacking Turkey together, a LOT of discussion was going on.....Austria made the decision for us by supporting Doug into Rumania so it turned into R/I vs. A/T. Mike i did get you reasoning why you did that, but I would have dropped Italy in a second to get back at Doug for stabbing me on the first turn. (sorry Ross) Several turns were spent stagnating one another around GAL when Mike mentioned that we (RAT) should join forces or spend the game doing nothing. I had seen a big move on Germany since i was in GAL and WAR. I was very bitter with Turkey and it was tough to give in but it worked out....Turkey moved up through GAL and i moved on BER. I had to let Ross go because Austria needed a place to expand..i could not come to your defense because this was the only option i had to get any progress.
RAT went on for most of the game. We approached France to have him turn on Germany just as England was falling out and that should have been the end of Germany but France made some curious moves that drove two German armies into France...I kept building fleets in the north which should have signaled to France that i would be coming after him but France concentrated on getting Germany out of his home centers as i moved my fleets closer. I think i made some mistakes here by not taking either of the two chances i had to get into MAO....I should not have stabbed France as early as i did i think now looking back. France made a retreat of a fleet OTB that should have gone to IRI..at that point I thought i was going to get a win....I think Mike say that too and made the right move on the next turn to push his units north....you made the right call at the right time Mike...I will strive to recognize those times because i do not know that i would have done that were our positions switched and in the end i would have lost, I think it was that close. If you did not make the move right at that time the game was going to be lost.
Ross, i am glad you got a survival out of the game. I wanted to stick with you as an ally but a great opportunity came up and i could not pass on it...I would have loved to see how this last turn went especially that order for ADR. Maybe it could have helped me win...we'll never know. Thanks for the game
Doug and Mike, thank you for being patient with me as i questioned everything that was going on when we were putting RAT together. It was difficult for me to break out of my single minded mode of thinking but it happened. I am sure there was more than one time where it would have been easier to just wipe me out and be done with it...i am glad that didn't happen. I look forward to playing with you guys again.
Rene....F/G got the jump on you and it was too much to take...nice playing with you again.
James, I treated you poorly and lied almost every turn....i told you i would leave England alone then immediately attacked...then tried to patch things up...then attacked again. As you were telling me that you would move south though you kept moving fleets north so i did have to respond...with more fleet builds than i wanted. Nice playing with you and i hope you are fully recovered.
Buck, Mike made me do it! It was the only way out of 8 years of stalemate until you were too strong to fight.
Kevin, thanks again for GMing...sorry to keep bugging you about the resutls...the game was very intense at times.
I am sure i missed some thing from my perspective here but that is what i remember the most. It was a lot of fun and very enlightening. This is one i will not soon forget.
Tim
Russia[Reply] |
| DC 407 S 04 Results - untitled36 (Feb 13, 2012, 9:38 am) |
*French Forces Frantically Force Fleets Forward!*
*Turks Toil Tremendously, yet Twiddle Today*
*Italy Incensed as It Is Impeded!*
Hey all,
Please check your moves. Lots of revisions this round. Hopefully I got the final orders right. As the headlines above suggest, Italy and Turkey don't manage to move a single unit. Germany and Russia both lose their last home centers (assuming nothing unforeseen happens this turn). Two retreats happen this season, though as each only has one retreat, I took the liberty of Auto-ajudicating both. So English F Eng retreats to Pic, and German Army Kiel retreats to Denmark. Of course, retreating otb is possible in either case. If you prefer that, let me know by 8:00 AM CST tomorrow, otherwise see ya here on Thursday!!!
John
Here are the moves:
Austria:
A Budapest - Rumania (*Fails*)
A Serbia Supports A Tunis - Greece
F Trieste - Albania
A Vienna - Galicia
England:
F Barents Sea - Norwegian Sea
F English Channel Convoys A London - Picardy (*Dislodged*)
F Irish Sea Supports F English Channel (*Cut*)
A London - Picardy (*Fails*)
F St Petersburg(sc) - Gulf of BothniaFrance:
A Belgium Hold
F Brest - English Channel
A Holland Supports A Ruhr - Kiel
F Mid-Atlantic Ocean Supports F Brest - English Channel
F North Atlantic Ocean - Irish Sea (*Fails*)
A Ruhr - Kiel
F Wales - London (*Fails*)Germany:
F Denmark - Sweden
A Kiel Hold (*Dislodged*)
A Livonia - Warsaw
A Moscow Supports A Livonia - Warsaw
F Norway - North SeaItaly:
F Eastern Mediterranean - Aegean Sea (*Bounce*)
F Ionian Sea Convoys A Tunis - Greece
A Tunis - Greece (*Bounce*)
A Tyrolia - Munich (*Fails*)Russia:
A Munich Supports A Silesia - Berlin (*Cut*)
A Silesia - BerlinTurkey:
F Aegean Sea - Greece (*Bounce*)
A Ankara - Constantinople (*Fails*)
A Bulgaria Supports F Aegean Sea - Greece
F Constantinople - Aegean Sea (*Bounce*)
A Rumania Supports A Bulgaria (*Cut*)
F Sevastopol Supports A Rumania
F Smyrna - Eastern Mediterranean (*Fails*)[Reply] |
| dc411 Spring '04 Results - notasb (Feb 13, 2012, 8:18 am) |
Board:
Austria - RickHunter - Mike Brady
England - metalwarlord - Stuart Winch
France- Godzilla - Marc Peters
Germany - Pete - Pete Marinaro
Italy - RICH3520 - RICH SLOPER
Russia - dkleiman - Dave Kleiman
Turkey - fantomas - jean-luc granier
Map:
http://home.comcast.net/~dawench/411/41104Spring.gif
Deadline:
Summer Retreats are due Tuesday Feb 14th 8 AM CST (GMT -6) 1400 GMT
Orders and Results:
Austria:
F Adriatic Sea - Ionian Sea (*Fails*)
A Serbia Hold
A Trieste - Venice
A Tyrolia - Piedmont (*Fails*)
A Venice - Rome
England:
F Baltic Sea - Berlin (*Fails*)
F Barents Sea Supports A Finland - St Petersburg
F Denmark Supports A Holland - Kiel
A Finland - St Petersburg (*Fails*)
F Norway Supports A Finland - St Petersburg
France:
A Burgundy - Munich
A Paris - Burgundy
A Piedmont - Tyrolia (*Fails*)
A Ruhr Supports A Burgundy - Munich
F Tunis Supports F Tyrrhenian Sea - Ionian Sea
F Tyrrhenian Sea - Ionian Sea
F Western Mediterranean - Tyrrhenian Sea
Germany:
A Holland - Kiel
F Sweden - Gulf of Bothnia
Italy:
A Rome - Naples (*Dislodged*)
Russia:
A Berlin Supports A Munich - Kiel (*Cut*)
F Kiel - Baltic Sea (*Dislodged*)
A Livonia Supports F St Petersburg(nc)
A Moscow Supports F St Petersburg(nc)
A Munich - Kiel (*Dislodged*)
F Sevastopol - Black Sea (*Fails*)
F St Petersburg(nc) Hold
Turkey:
A Apulia Supports A Venice - Rome
F Black Sea, no move received
F Constantinople - Aegean Sea
A Greece - Bulgaria
F Ionian Sea - Tyrrhenian Sea (*Dislodged*)
F Naples Supports F Ionian Sea - Tyrrhenian Sea (*Cut*)
Retreats Due:
Italian A Rome can retreat to Tuscany or OTB.
Russian F Kiel can retreat to Helgoland Bight or OTB.
Russian A Munich can retreat to Silesia or Bohemia or OTB.
Turkish F Ionian Sea can retreat to Albania or Greece or Eastern Mediterranean or OTB.
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"An ideal form of government is democracy tempered with assassination." -Voltaire[Reply] |
| dc393 - Game Over - fencertim (Feb 13, 2012, 7:58 am) |
Wow, where to begin. It was a fun game thank you all for playing.
Thanks Kevin for running the game for us.
I entered the game thinking that i knew a fair amount about the game....i had a couple of wins under my belt and my attitude and such got me into some trouble here....however, regardless of how the game could have ended. I learned more in this game than all of the others i have played in thanks to Mike and Doug and Ross. You guys showed me things i had never considered and gave me a whole new perspective that i have already put into practice in games i am in now. I feel honored to be part of a wining draw when at a couple points in the game i did not think i deserved to be there never the less playing the game at all.
Things started off strange because no one heard a thing from the original Austria but he has submitted prelims thus we moved on....I agreed to keep the Black Sea open with Turkey, though he decided to come after me from the start...which was fine, i was upset because he lied and i had no communications with Austria which put me in a tough spot. My only other option was to befriend Italy..we decided to wait and see what would happen with Austria for the Fall and in the mean time we made plans to attack Turkey together....when Fall 01 arrived there were no Austrian orders so a ringer was brought in to take up the vacant spot. There is where i ran into the problem of sticking with Italy or trying to work with Austria....all the plans were laid out with Italy but I wanted to go with Austria. The three of us talked about attacking Turkey together, a LOT of discussion was going on.....Austria made the decision for us by supporting Doug into Rumania so it turned into R/I vs. A/T. Mike i did get you reasoning why you did that, but I would have dropped Italy in a second to get back at Doug for stabbing me on the first turn. (sorry Ross) Several turns were spent stagnating one another around GAL when Mike mentioned that we (RAT) should join forces or spend the game doing nothing. I had seen a big move on Germany since i was in GAL and WAR. I was very bitter with Turkey and it was tough to give in but it worked out....Turkey moved up through GAL and i moved on BER. I had to let Ross go because Austria needed a place to expand..i could not come to your defense because this was the only option i had to get any progress.
RAT went on for most of the game. We approached France to have him turn on Germany just as England was falling out and that should have been the end of Germany but France made some curious moves that drove two German armies into France...I kept building fleets in the north which should have signaled to France that i would be coming after him but France concentrated on getting Germany out of his home centers as i moved my fleets closer. I think i made some mistakes here by not taking either of the two chances i had to get into MAO....I should not have stabbed France as early as i did i think now looking back. France made a retreat of a fleet OTB that should have gone to IRI..at that point I thought i was going to get a win....I think Mike say that too and made the right move on the next turn to push his units north....you made the right call at the right time Mike...I will strive to recognize those times because i do not know that i would have done that were our positions switched and in the end i would have lost, I think it was that close. If you did not make the move right at that time the game was going to be lost.
Ross, i am glad you got a survival out of the game. I wanted to stick with you as an ally but a great opportunity came up and i could not pass on it...I would have loved to see how this last turn went especially that order for ADR. Maybe it could have helped me win...we'll never know. Thanks for the game
Doug and Mike, thank you for being patient with me as i questioned everything that was going on when we were putting RAT together. It was difficult for me to break out of my single minded mode of thinking but it happened. I am sure there was more than one time where it would have been easier to just wipe me out and be done with it...i am glad that didn't happen. I look forward to playing with you guys again.
Rene....F/G got the jump on you and it was too much to take...nice playing with you again.
James, I treated you poorly and lied almost every turn....i told you i would leave England alone then immediately attacked...then tried to patch things up...then attacked again. As you were telling me that you would move south though you kept moving fleets north so i did have to respond...with more fleet builds than i wanted. Nice playing with you and i hope you are fully recovered.
Buck, Mike made me do it! It was the only way out of 8 years of stalemate until you were too strong to fight.
Kevin, thanks again for GMing...sorry to keep bugging you about the resutls...the game was very intense at times.
I am sure i missed some thing from my perspective here but that is what i remember the most. It was a lot of fun and very enlightening. This is one i will not soon forget.
Tim
Russia[Reply] |
| dc 411 Spring 1904 France - Godzilla (Feb 13, 2012, 7:28 am) |
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A Bur-Mun
A Ruh S A Bur-Mun
A Par-Bur
A Pie-Tyo
F Tyn-Ion
F Tun S F Tyn-Ion
F Wes-Tyn[Reply] |
| dc410 approaching deadline - catsfather (Feb 13, 2012, 2:10 am) |
Deadline for spring moves is 18:00GMT tonight. If you've not had a
"received" from me then I don't have your moves.
Hamish[Reply] |
| Winter Blitz - untitled36 (Feb 12, 2012, 10:26 pm) |
Hey all. Deadline in under 12 hours. Adjudication may be a little late tomorrow, but don't put off sending those moves in, since it might happen on schedule.
Thanks!
John
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Subject: Winter Blitz Gamestart
Date: Mon, 16 Jan 2012 23:45:56 -0600
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*Announcer's Voice, accompanied by upbeat music*
"Welcome once again to the Annual Winter Blitz, the game where seven players compete for semi-fabulous prizes! And now, heeeere's your host..... JOHN!"
Thank you, thank you! Please sit down, your standing ovation is embarrasing me! Before we begin, let me go over some rules:
HOUSE RULES:
During the Blitz, I hold to Diplomaticcorp house rules. Except to say I reserve the right to handle any situation that comes up however I see fit. So... I follow the house rules, except when I don't. Got it? But seriously, I don't expect we'll have any issues. I just have to cover myself. If you ever have an issue, whether it be I recorded your moves wrong, or you disagree with my handling of some situation, you have a hard and fast 24 hours from the deadline to contact me. Otherwise, the adjucation (or whatever is debated) stands.
YOUR BEST ALLIES:
Yes, Diplomacy is a game where you can't trust anyone. Take a look at the faces of our players. Completely untrustworthy, every one of them. So what do I mean, "your best allies?" orders(at)diplomaticcorp.com, and Prelims! Yup, the orders email is your first, last, and only defense against the capricious whims of your humble GM. You just know you sent in those orders, but I have no record of them? If you cc'ed the orders box, you're safe! If not, tough cookies! And Prelims. Oh, I could write ballads about my love for prelims. I'd suggest that as soon as I send out an adjucation, you fire off some prelims. Who knows what that silly old "real life" everyone is talking about might bring you? Loss of internet? Emergency travel? Barbarian hordes ransacking your dwelling? Well, Prelims make sure you at least do something. Otherwise, you get to say hello to my old friend "NMR." We don't want that. Trust me. He's not a nice guy.
OTHER RANDOM STUFF:
Please make sure you put DC413 in the subject line, ideally followed by your country and season. I'm not nearly the stickler about this that some GMS are, but still, it makes both our lives easier.
The Game goes on NO MATTER WHAT. If you will be journeying to the moon for a couple weeks, we will NOT put the game on hold or delay deadlines. If you know you will have an extended absence, either give me conditional moves, or find a stand-in (one who is not a Blitz player or GM). Also, press is "Black" meaning you can send press to be included with adjucations claiming to be from yourself, an anonymous source, or even someone else. HOWEVER, purporting to be me (the GM), or any of the tournament directors in press or even in private emails is strictly forbidden and you WILL be expelled from the game and most likely the tournament as well.
DEADLINES:
The Blitz is set up for Spring and Fall on Mondays and Thursdays respectively. Summer and Winter are on Tuesday and Friday (when required). Orders are due by 8:00 AM CST on each of those days. I'm terrible with coverting timezones, but I think we are -6:00 from GMT, which makes the deadline 2:00 PM GMT (I think). I prefer a "first thing in the morning" deadline over a "late night" deadline, so either send them in the night before, or get up early, kids. Also, on a technical note, I accept orders until I BEGIN adjucation. Whether that's at 8:00 AM sharp, or 10:15 AM. I'm generally pretty prompt, with the possible exception being Fridays, but be safe and send in early! FIRST DEADLINE IS THIS COMING MONDAY AT 8:00 AM CST (2:00 PM GMT??)! In a Blitz game, I don't normally send out reminders for moves, so be a big boy and get your own moves in, eh?
COUNTRY ASSIGNMENTS:
I know, I know. "John, shut up and tell us what country we are!" Okay, okay! Put that dagger down! I'm getting there. Assigned via OpenOffice's random number feature, we have:
Player list for dc413IDCountryNameEmailLocationConradWAUSTRIACharles Welshwelsh_stroud(at)msn.comEllicott City, MD, USdiplomat1ENGLANDdavid knightdavidknight1955(at)gmail.comlondon, HERTS, UKilovethechiefsRUSSIAPhilip Kingilovethechiefs(at)gmail.comSt. Louis, MO, USlandru428FRANCEAndrew Casseselandru428(at)aol.comBrooklyn, NY, USthecount1282GERMANYGreg ShtraksGreg.Shtraks(at)gmail.commonclair, NJ, USTheFinalCountdownTURKEYMatt Barnesmatthew_barnes(at)brown.eduBoston, MA, UStrezdkITALYRene Krollrk(at)giorsoine.dkFarum, DK Happy Stabbing, folks!*Music surges again, confetti explodes into the air, and the scene fades on the contestants glancing cautiously at one another, each sharpening their blades* John [Reply] |
| dc407 Blitz Spring 1904 reminder - jerome777 (Feb 12, 2012, 1:15 pm) |
| Hi everyone, The deadline for Spring 1904 is just over 24 hours away - 2100GMT tomorrow evening. Jerome [Reply] |
| dc395 Autumn 1910 deadline reminder - jerome777 (Feb 12, 2012, 1:14 pm) |
| Hi everyone, Here's your just-over-24 hour warning for the deadline. The deadline for Autumn 1910 will be Monday 13 February 2100GMT. Please include your votes for the ER draw in your Autumn 1910 moves. Take care in the ice! Jerome [Reply] |
| dc414 48 hour warning - jerome777 (Feb 12, 2012, 1:13 pm) |
| Hi everyone, The deadline for the Winter 01 builds is just over 48 hours away - Tuesday 14 February, 2100GMT. So, if you don't want that romantic candlelit dinner spoilt by a forgotten deadline, get those builds in to me pronto please! Jerome [Reply] |
