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dc378 fall 15 - dkleiman   (Jul 08, 2011, 7:55 am)
Thanks, all.

 

Here???s a short EOG:

 

I approached England and Germany to start the game, proposing a western triple alliance (once it seemed that both would be reasonable partners).?? I was fully sincere about taking it to the end of the game and remaining loyal to it, although England and I had some initial conversations about moving it to a EF traditional alliance, if it seemed to make sense.?? After the first couple of moves, it seemed that EFG were hitting on all cylinders, and coupled with a couple of missed orders?? by Italy and Turkey, I was moving quickly in the Med.

 

Austria approached me about working together to eliminate Italy quickly and then turning towards Turkey, and I accepted.?? I didn???t stay loyal long to Austria, but was in the ION with Italy crippled.?? Italy offered to work as my toadie (do people still call it that?) against either Austria or Turkey, and I was good with that until I got worried about needing an urgent build in the west, and I took his last center.?? Frankly, it was a very poor decision on my part, and I should have been chastised more than I was.?? Of course, Joe had turned against Sun in the west, and I really imagined risk of an English win, so I turned full attention to attacking England.?? I suspect he was a little surprised by my reaction to his attack on Germany, but, to be honest, he didn???t do anything to try to cultivate my alliance, so it was really easy for me to stay loyal to Germany.?? Meantime, in the Med, things stayed a balance for me with Austria and Turkey.?? Once I had some success in the west, then AFG were also able to start making progress against Turkey.

 

As my success with England moved quickly ??? maybe too quickly ??? I started to consider a push for a solo.?? I decided that if I did so, I would let Germany and Austria know and not stab.?? When I finally did this, I figured it was about 50/50 if I could make the right guesses to get to 18.?? I messed up a convoy move from England to Belgium which really hurt me.?? It delayed the ability for me to push the fleets into Scandinavia by one turn, which proved to be fatal to my efforts.?? Sun moved decisively and had very solid tactics, and it was clear to me that he???d stopped me in the north.

 

At that point, there was talk about a 4-way, but I told Sun and Mike that I would only settle for a 3-way.?? I???ve always felt that the game wasn???t over if more than ?? of the powers still remained.?? I also started pressing Sun on the idea of a 2-way, which we eventually agreed to move forward to accomplish.?? The thing about this 2-way is that either of us could push for a win once we got close, and it was very likely that Mike or Clark would approach one of us making that offer or Mike might defend against only one of us, making a solo a threat.?? I truly was committed to the 2-way draw and had no intentions of taking advantage of the situation.

 

Then Mike approached me. He said that Sun had turned him down.?? I reviewed the map and when I saw it was possible to end the game in one big move this season, I thought it was worth trying.?? If I had gotten to 17 or 16 this season, I think Sun might have been able to turn this on me and get a solo himself, so it was really an all-or-nothing move.?? I also wondered if Mike was sincere and after a few exchanges about tactics, I concluded that he was.?? In the end, if the move had not worked, I would have tried to salvage the 2-way, would have accepted a 3-way, and would have been OK if Sun ended up with a solo instead.

 

It was a very fun game (easy to say that because of the outcome for me).?? I enjoyed the ongoing conversations with Sun and Mike, and there were lots of interesting turns and twists.?? Joe???s move against Germany presented some interesting dynamics, as did the constant balance back and forth with Turkey and Austria.?? Russia was also a great conversationalist early on, but the western triple and the good relationship that I had with Sun really doomed the traditional F/R cooperation opportunities.?? I???ve played Dip for many years (guess I started in 197Cool, published a PBM magazine for many years, produced Diplomacy World, and then ran a number of judge servers supporting the PBEM internet dip community.?? Over the course of the years, there are?? a few games that stand out in my memory, and I suspect that this one will be one of those.

 

Thanks, all, for a good game.

 

--Dave

 



From: Clark Landry [mailto:clarklandry(at)gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, July 07, 2011 11:03 PM
To: Hamish Williams
Cc: Dave Kleiman; Sun Chung; Michael Norton; <chaosonejoe(at)yahoo.com>; <blitz(at)diplomaticcorp.com>
Subject: Re: dc378 fall 15



 


Congrats France! Well deserved win.

Sent from my iPhone




On Jul 7, 2011, at 7:59 PM, Hamish Williams <catsfather(at)gmail.com> wrote:





Germany retreats (or does nothing and disbands). We move to winter and France has won with 18 centres. 


 





On 8 Jul 2011, at 01:13, "Dave Kleiman" <dave(at)thekleimans.com> wrote:





I???m unsure about the tournament scoring for centers.  It reads to me that 18 centers would yield more points than 13 centers, so it seems I should vote against the proposed solo concession.  Kind of goofy to me, but unless Hamish corrects my thinking, I???ll vote against it???

 

Weird.

 

--Dave

 




From: Sun Chung [mailto:sun.chung(at)gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, July 07, 2011 6:05 PM
To: Clark Landry
Cc: Michael Norton; Hamish Williams; chaosonejoe(at)yahoo.com; dave(at)thekleimans.com; blitz(at)diplomaticcorp.com
Subject: Re: dc378 fall 15



 

Sorry Clark - you're right.  This is definitely worse for Germany and I'm left with looking at a French solo here...  Voting for a French solo as well.


On Thu, Jul 7, 2011 at 2:46 PM, Clark Landry <clarklandry(at)gmail.com> wrote:



Vote yes for French solo. Not sure how this is better for Germany than a 4 way draw, but there you go.

Sent from my iPhone






On Jul 7, 2011, at 2:44 PM, Michael Norton <mjn82(at)yahoo.com> wrote:






I am proposing and voting for a French Solo.



 



Mike



 




From: Hamish Williams <catsfather(at)gmail.com>
To: chaosonejoe(at)yahoo.com; clarklandry(at)gmail.com; dave(at)thekleimans.com; mjn82(at)yahoo.com; sun.chung(at)gmail.com
Cc: blitz(at)diplomaticcorp.com
Sent: Thursday, July 7, 2011 4:19 PM
Subject: dc378 fall 15


Well ... two retreats due from Germany, but as far as I can see we have a French Solo about to be declared.

The vote on the draw failed.

Movement results for Fall of 1915.  (dc37Cool
 
Austria: A Budapest Supports A Galicia - Vienna.
Austria: A Bulgaria Supports A Aegean Sea - Constantinople.
Austria: A Galicia - Vienna.
Austria: A Greece - Serbia.
Austria: A Rumania - Galicia (*Bounce*).
Austria: A Serbia - Albania.
Austria: A Trieste - Tyrolia (*Disbanded*).
 
France: F Adriatic Sea Supports A Venice - Trieste.
France: F Aegean Sea - Constantinople.
France: F Albania - Greece.
France: F Belgium Supports F North Sea - Holland.
France: A Gascony - Burgundy.
France: A Marseilles - Piedmont.
France: F Mid-Atlantic Ocean - English Channel.
France: F North Sea - Holland.
France: F Norwegian Sea - North Sea.
France: A Picardy Supports A Gascony - Burgundy.
France: A Piedmont - Venice.
France: F Smyrna Supports F Aegean Sea - Constantinople.
France: A Venice - Trieste.
 
Germany: A Armenia - Ankara (*Fails*).
Germany: A Constantinople Supports A Armenia - Ankara (*Disbanded*).
Germany: F Denmark Hold.
Germany: A Holland Hold (*Dislodged*).
Germany: A Munich Supports A Tyrolia.
Germany: A Norway - St Petersburg.
Germany: A Prussia - Warsaw.
Germany: A Sevastopol - Rumania (*Fails*).
Germany: A Silesia - Galicia (*Bounce*).
Germany: F Sweden - Norway.
Germany: A Tyrolia Supports A Vienna (*Cut*).
Germany: A Vienna Supports A Venice - Trieste (*Dislodged*).
 
Turkey: F Ankara Hold.
 
The following units were dislodged:
 
German A Holland can retreat to Ruhr or Kiel.
German A Vienna can retreat to Bohemia.
 
Unit locations:
 
Austria:   A Albania, A Budapest, A Bulgaria, A Rumania, A Serbia, A Vienna.
France:    F Adriatic Sea, F Belgium, A Burgundy, F Constantinople, F English 
           Channel, F Greece, F Holland, F North Sea, A Picardy, A Piedmont, F 
           Smyrna, A Trieste, A Venice.
Germany:   A Armenia, F Denmark, A Munich, F Norway, A Sevastopol, A Silesia, A 
           St Petersburg, A Tyrolia, A Warsaw.
Turkey:    F Ankara.
 
Ownership of supply centers:
 
Austria:   Budapest, Bulgaria, Greece, Rumania, Serbia, Trieste, Vienna.
France:    Belgium, Brest, Edinburgh, Liverpool, London, Marseilles, Naples, 
           Paris, Portugal, Rome, Spain, Tunis, Venice.
Germany:   Berlin, Denmark, Holland, Kiel, Moscow, Munich, Norway, Sevastopol, 
           Smyrna, St Petersburg, Sweden, Warsaw.
Turkey:    Ankara, Constantinople.
 
Austria:    7 Supply centers,  6 Units:  Builds   1 unit.
England:    0 Supply centers,  0 Units:  Builds   0 units.
France:    13 Supply centers, 13 Units:  Builds   0 units.
Germany:   12 Supply centers,  9 Units:  Builds   1 unit.
Italy:      0 Supply centers,  0 Units:  Builds   0 units.
Russia:     0 Supply centers,  0 Units:  Builds   0 units.
Turkey:     2 Supply centers,  1 Unit:   Builds   1 unit.
 
The next phase of dc378 will be Retreats for Fall of 1915.


 










 

[Reply]

DC376 WB11 Rd 2 - Fall 1915 Results - FLTeacher   (Jul 08, 2011, 7:50 am)

[Reply]

DC376 WB11 Rd 2 - Fall 1915 Results - Nigs   (Jul 08, 2011, 3:40 am)
Tony,




Good for you - you have acted as I expected, though not as I how I hoped for 

Now we will see if you can get 18




Nigs

Sent from my iPhone


On 8 Jul 2011, at 05:37, C Morse <camorse22(at)yahoo.com> wrote:








Greetings, Players!

I'm back, and just in time to preside over the long-awaited Turkish Push!  Looks like the Sultan has finally decided to make a play for 18.  Berlin, Munich and Trieste join the Sultanate this year, while Russian A Norway holds fast thanks to the help of his English friends in Sweden.

So, what will we see in 1916?  Will the warring factions of western Europe be able to put aside their historic arguments and work together against the Eastern potentate?  Even if they do, can they redeploy and coordinate their forces quickly enough to keep the yellow forces from claiming two more SC?

I think we'll know the answers soon.  Play on!

RETREATS NEEDED:
English F Brest can retreat to Picardy or OTB.
Italian F Ionian Sea
can retreat to Tunis or Tyrrhenian Sea or Naples or Apulia or Adriatic Sea or Albania or OTB.

ADJUSTMENTS NEEDED:
Turkey is +3 SC, and +4 overall, but of course can only build 3.
France is even on SC but can build 1 due to the army destroyed in Berlin.
Russia is +1 SC but cannot build because no home SC are open.
Germany is even.
England is -2 SC and must remove 2.
Italy is -2 SC but removes only 1 due to the army destroyed in Kiel.

END-GAME PROPOSALS:
None voted on in the Fall.
None proposed, as yet, for the Spring.

NEXT DEADLINE:  Retreats and Adjustments are due Friday, July 8, at 18:00 EDT.

Cheers,
Chris


Orders as resolved.  Check 'em over for me, won't ya?
================================================
England:
F Belgium Supports A Holland
F Brest Supports F North Atlantic Ocean - Mid-Atlantic Ocean (*Dislodged*)
F English Channel Supports F Brest
(*Cut*)
A Holland Supports A Ruhr - Kiel
F Irish Sea Supports F North Atlantic Ocean - Mid-Atlantic Ocean
F North Atlantic Ocean - Mid-Atlantic Ocean (*Bounce*)
F Sweden Supports A Norway

France:
A Berlin Supports A Kiel (*Disbanded*)
A Paris - Brest

Germany:
A Denmark Supports A Ruhr - Kiel

Italy:
A Burgundy, no move received
A Gascony Supports A Paris - Brest
F Ionian Sea Hold (*Dislodged*)
A Kiel Supports A Burgundy - Ruhr (*Disbanded*)
F Mid-Atlantic Ocean - English Channel (*Fails*)
F Spain(nc) - Mid-Atlantic Ocean (*Bounce*)
F Tunis - North Africa
A Tyrolia - Venice
F Western Mediterranean Supports F Spain(nc) - Mid-Atlantic Ocean

Russia:
A Norway Hold
A Ruhr - Kiel

Turkey:
F Aegean Sea Supports F Eastern Mediterranean - Ionian Sea
F Eastern Mediterranean - Ionian Sea
A Finland - Norway (*Fails*)
A Galicia - Bohemia
F Greece Supports F
Eastern Mediterranean - Ionian Sea
A Moscow - Livonia
A Munich Supports A Vienna - Tyrolia
A Prussia - Berlin
A Serbia - Trieste
A Silesia Supports A Prussia - Berlin
A St Petersburg Supports A Finland - Norway
A Vienna - Tyrolia
========================================================

SC Ownership:
England (5):   Belgium, Edinburgh, Holland, London, Sweden.
France (2):   Brest, Paris.
Germany (1):   Denmark.
Italy (7):     Marseilles, Naples, Portugal, Rome, Spain, Tunis, Venice.
Russia (3):    Kiel, Liverpool, Norway.
Turkey (16):    Ankara, Budapest, Bulgaria, Constantinople, Greece, Moscow, Rumania, Serbia, Sevastopol, Smyrna, St Petersburg, Vienna, Warsaw.

Adjustments:

Austria:   Supp  0 Unit  0 Build  0    ... eliminated 1903
England:   Supp  7
Unit  5 Remove 2
France:    Supp  2 Unit  1 Build  1
Germany:   Supp  1 Unit  1 Build  0
Italy:     Supp  7 Unit  8 Remove 1
Russia:    Supp  3 Unit  2 Build  0    ... no home SC open
Turkey:    Supp 16 Unit 12 Build  3








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DC376 WB11 Rd 2 - Fall 1915 Results - Corrino   (Jul 07, 2011, 11:37 pm)
Greetings, Players!

I'm back, and just in time to preside over the long-awaited Turkish Push!  Looks like the Sultan has finally decided to make a play for 18.  Berlin, Munich and Trieste join the Sultanate this year, while Russian A Norway holds fast thanks to the help of his English friends in Sweden.

So, what will we see in 1916?  Will the warring factions of western Europe be able to put aside their historic arguments and work together against the Eastern potentate?  Even if they do, can they redeploy and coordinate their forces quickly enough to keep the yellow forces from claiming two more SC?

I think we'll know the answers soon.  Play on!

RETREATS NEEDED:
English F Brest can retreat to Picardy or OTB.
Italian F Ionian Sea
can retreat to Tunis or Tyrrhenian Sea or Naples or Apulia or Adriatic Sea or Albania or OTB.

ADJUSTMENTS NEEDED:
Turkey is +3 SC, and +4 overall, but of course can only build 3.
France is even on SC but can build 1 due to the army destroyed in Berlin.
Russia is +1 SC but cannot build because no home SC are open.
Germany is even.
England is -2 SC and must remove 2.
Italy is -2 SC but removes only 1 due to the army destroyed in Kiel.

END-GAME PROPOSALS:
None voted on in the Fall.
None proposed, as yet, for the Spring.

NEXT DEADLINE:  Retreats and Adjustments are due Friday, July 8, at 18:00 EDT.

Cheers,
Chris


Orders as resolved.  Check 'em over for me, won't ya?
================================================
England:
F Belgium Supports A Holland
F Brest Supports F North Atlantic Ocean - Mid-Atlantic Ocean (*Dislodged*)
F English Channel Supports F Brest
(*Cut*)
A Holland Supports A Ruhr - Kiel
F Irish Sea Supports F North Atlantic Ocean - Mid-Atlantic Ocean
F North Atlantic Ocean - Mid-Atlantic Ocean (*Bounce*)
F Sweden Supports A Norway

France:
A Berlin Supports A Kiel (*Disbanded*)
A Paris - Brest

Germany:
A Denmark Supports A Ruhr - Kiel

Italy:
A Burgundy, no move received
A Gascony Supports A Paris - Brest
F Ionian Sea Hold (*Dislodged*)
A Kiel Supports A Burgundy - Ruhr (*Disbanded*)
F Mid-Atlantic Ocean - English Channel (*Fails*)
F Spain(nc) - Mid-Atlantic Ocean (*Bounce*)
F Tunis - North Africa
A Tyrolia - Venice
F Western Mediterranean Supports F Spain(nc) - Mid-Atlantic Ocean

Russia:
A Norway Hold
A Ruhr - Kiel

Turkey:
F Aegean Sea Supports F Eastern Mediterranean - Ionian Sea
F Eastern Mediterranean - Ionian Sea
A Finland - Norway (*Fails*)
A Galicia - Bohemia
F Greece Supports F
Eastern Mediterranean - Ionian Sea
A Moscow - Livonia
A Munich Supports A Vienna - Tyrolia
A Prussia - Berlin
A Serbia - Trieste
A Silesia Supports A Prussia - Berlin
A St Petersburg Supports A Finland - Norway
A Vienna - Tyrolia
========================================================

SC Ownership:
England (5):   Belgium, Edinburgh, Holland, London, Sweden.
France (2):   Brest, Paris.
Germany (1):   Denmark.
Italy (7):     Marseilles, Naples, Portugal, Rome, Spain, Tunis, Venice.
Russia (3):    Kiel, Liverpool, Norway.
Turkey (16):    Ankara, Budapest, Bulgaria, Constantinople, Greece, Moscow, Rumania, Serbia, Sevastopol, Smyrna, St Petersburg, Vienna, Warsaw.

Adjustments:

Austria:   Supp  0 Unit  0 Build  0    ... eliminated 1903
England:   Supp  7
Unit  5 Remove 2
France:    Supp  2 Unit  1 Build  1
Germany:   Supp  1 Unit  1 Build  0
Italy:     Supp  7 Unit  8 Remove 1
Russia:    Supp  3 Unit  2 Build  0    ... no home SC open
Turkey:    Supp 16 Unit 12 Build  3

[Reply]

DC376 WB11 Rd 2 - Fall 1915 Results (Winter Blitz) Nigs Jul 08, 03:40 am
Tony,




Good for you - you have acted as I expected, though not as I how I hoped for 

Now we will see if you can get 18




Nigs

Sent from my iPhone


On 8 Jul 2011, at 05:37, C Morse <camorse22(at)yahoo.com> wrote:








Greetings, Players!

I'm back, and just in time to preside over the long-awaited Turkish Push!  Looks like the Sultan has finally decided to make a play for 18.  Berlin, Munich and Trieste join the Sultanate this year, while Russian A Norway holds fast thanks to the help of his English friends in Sweden.

So, what will we see in 1916?  Will the warring factions of western Europe be able to put aside their historic arguments and work together against the Eastern potentate?  Even if they do, can they redeploy and coordinate their forces quickly enough to keep the yellow forces from claiming two more SC?

I think we'll know the answers soon.  Play on!

RETREATS NEEDED:
English F Brest can retreat to Picardy or OTB.
Italian F Ionian Sea
can retreat to Tunis or Tyrrhenian Sea or Naples or Apulia or Adriatic Sea or Albania or OTB.

ADJUSTMENTS NEEDED:
Turkey is +3 SC, and +4 overall, but of course can only build 3.
France is even on SC but can build 1 due to the army destroyed in Berlin.
Russia is +1 SC but cannot build because no home SC are open.
Germany is even.
England is -2 SC and must remove 2.
Italy is -2 SC but removes only 1 due to the army destroyed in Kiel.

END-GAME PROPOSALS:
None voted on in the Fall.
None proposed, as yet, for the Spring.

NEXT DEADLINE:  Retreats and Adjustments are due Friday, July 8, at 18:00 EDT.

Cheers,
Chris


Orders as resolved.  Check 'em over for me, won't ya?
================================================
England:
F Belgium Supports A Holland
F Brest Supports F North Atlantic Ocean - Mid-Atlantic Ocean (*Dislodged*)
F English Channel Supports F Brest
(*Cut*)
A Holland Supports A Ruhr - Kiel
F Irish Sea Supports F North Atlantic Ocean - Mid-Atlantic Ocean
F North Atlantic Ocean - Mid-Atlantic Ocean (*Bounce*)
F Sweden Supports A Norway

France:
A Berlin Supports A Kiel (*Disbanded*)
A Paris - Brest

Germany:
A Denmark Supports A Ruhr - Kiel

Italy:
A Burgundy, no move received
A Gascony Supports A Paris - Brest
F Ionian Sea Hold (*Dislodged*)
A Kiel Supports A Burgundy - Ruhr (*Disbanded*)
F Mid-Atlantic Ocean - English Channel (*Fails*)
F Spain(nc) - Mid-Atlantic Ocean (*Bounce*)
F Tunis - North Africa
A Tyrolia - Venice
F Western Mediterranean Supports F Spain(nc) - Mid-Atlantic Ocean

Russia:
A Norway Hold
A Ruhr - Kiel

Turkey:
F Aegean Sea Supports F Eastern Mediterranean - Ionian Sea
F Eastern Mediterranean - Ionian Sea
A Finland - Norway (*Fails*)
A Galicia - Bohemia
F Greece Supports F
Eastern Mediterranean - Ionian Sea
A Moscow - Livonia
A Munich Supports A Vienna - Tyrolia
A Prussia - Berlin
A Serbia - Trieste
A Silesia Supports A Prussia - Berlin
A St Petersburg Supports A Finland - Norway
A Vienna - Tyrolia
========================================================

SC Ownership:
England (5):   Belgium, Edinburgh, Holland, London, Sweden.
France (2):   Brest, Paris.
Germany (1):   Denmark.
Italy (7):     Marseilles, Naples, Portugal, Rome, Spain, Tunis, Venice.
Russia (3):    Kiel, Liverpool, Norway.
Turkey (16):    Ankara, Budapest, Bulgaria, Constantinople, Greece, Moscow, Rumania, Serbia, Sevastopol, Smyrna, St Petersburg, Vienna, Warsaw.

Adjustments:

Austria:   Supp  0 Unit  0 Build  0    ... eliminated 1903
England:   Supp  7
Unit  5 Remove 2
France:    Supp  2 Unit  1 Build  1
Germany:   Supp  1 Unit  1 Build  0
Italy:     Supp  7 Unit  8 Remove 1
Russia:    Supp  3 Unit  2 Build  0    ... no home SC open
Turkey:    Supp 16 Unit 12 Build  3








<DC376_F15_before_retreats.dpy>



<DC376_F15_before_retreats.gif>
DC376 WB11 Rd 2 - Fall 1915 Results (Winter Blitz) FLTeacher Jul 08, 07:50 am
dc378 fall 15 - cl2849   (Jul 07, 2011, 10:02 pm)
Congrats France! Well deserved win.

Sent from my iPhone


On Jul 7, 2011, at 7:59 PM, Hamish Williams <catsfather(at)gmail.com> wrote:







Germany retreats (or does nothing and disbands). We move to winter and France has won with 18 centres. 







On 8 Jul 2011, at 01:13, "Dave Kleiman" <dave(at)thekleimans.com> wrote:









I???m unsure about the tournament scoring for centers.  It reads to me that 18 centers would yield more points than 13 centers, so it seems I should vote against the proposed solo concession.  Kind of goofy to me, but unless Hamish corrects my thinking, I???ll vote against it???


 

Weird.


 

--Dave


 





From: Sun Chung [mailto:sun.chung(at)gmail.com]

Sent: Thursday, July 07, 2011 6:05 PM
To: Clark Landry
Cc: Michael Norton; Hamish Williams; chaosonejoe(at)yahoo.com; dave(at)thekleimans.com; blitz(at)diplomaticcorp.com

Subject: Re: dc378 fall 15



 

Sorry Clark - you're right.  This is definitely worse for Germany and I'm left with looking at a French solo here...  Voting for a French solo as well.



On Thu, Jul 7, 2011 at 2:46 PM, Clark Landry <clarklandry(at)gmail.com> wrote:




Vote yes for French solo. Not sure how this is better for Germany than a 4 way draw, but there you go.

Sent from my iPhone






On Jul 7, 2011, at 2:44 PM, Michael Norton <mjn82(at)yahoo.com> wrote:







I am proposing and voting for a French Solo.




 



Mike




 





From: Hamish Williams <catsfather(at)gmail.com>

To: chaosonejoe(at)yahoo.com; clarklandry(at)gmail.com; dave(at)thekleimans.com; mjn82(at)yahoo.com; sun.chung(at)gmail.com

Cc: blitz(at)diplomaticcorp.com
Sent: Thursday, July 7, 2011 4:19 PM
Subject: dc378 fall 15



Well ... two retreats due from Germany, but as far as I can see we have a French Solo about to be declared.

The vote on the draw failed.


Movement results for Fall of 1915.  (dc37Cool
 
Austria: A Budapest Supports A Galicia - Vienna.
Austria: A Bulgaria Supports A Aegean Sea - Constantinople.
Austria: A Galicia - Vienna.
Austria: A Greece - Serbia.

Austria: A Rumania - Galicia (*Bounce*).
Austria: A Serbia - Albania.
Austria: A Trieste - Tyrolia (*Disbanded*).
 
France: F Adriatic Sea Supports A Venice - Trieste.
France: F Aegean Sea - Constantinople.

France: F Albania - Greece.
France: F Belgium Supports F North Sea - Holland.
France: A Gascony - Burgundy.
France: A Marseilles - Piedmont.
France: F Mid-Atlantic Ocean - English Channel.
France: F North Sea - Holland.

France: F Norwegian Sea - North Sea.
France: A Picardy Supports A Gascony - Burgundy.
France: A Piedmont - Venice.
France: F Smyrna Supports F Aegean Sea - Constantinople.
France: A Venice - Trieste.
 

Germany: A Armenia - Ankara (*Fails*).
Germany: A Constantinople Supports A Armenia - Ankara (*Disbanded*).
Germany: F Denmark Hold.
Germany: A Holland Hold (*Dislodged*).
Germany: A Munich Supports A Tyrolia.

Germany: A Norway - St Petersburg.
Germany: A Prussia - Warsaw.
Germany: A Sevastopol - Rumania (*Fails*).
Germany: A Silesia - Galicia (*Bounce*).
Germany: F Sweden - Norway.
Germany: A Tyrolia Supports A Vienna (*Cut*).

Germany: A Vienna Supports A Venice - Trieste (*Dislodged*).
 
Turkey: F Ankara Hold.
 
The following units were dislodged:
 
German A Holland can retreat to Ruhr or Kiel.
German A Vienna can retreat to Bohemia.

 
Unit locations:
 
Austria:   A Albania, A Budapest, A Bulgaria, A Rumania, A Serbia, A Vienna.
France:    F Adriatic Sea, F Belgium, A Burgundy, F Constantinople, F English 
           Channel, F Greece, F Holland, F North Sea, A Picardy, A Piedmont, F 

           Smyrna, A Trieste, A Venice.
Germany:   A Armenia, F Denmark, A Munich, F Norway, A Sevastopol, A Silesia, A 
           St Petersburg, A Tyrolia, A Warsaw.
Turkey:    F Ankara.
 
Ownership of supply centers:

 
Austria:   Budapest, Bulgaria, Greece, Rumania, Serbia, Trieste, Vienna.
France:    Belgium, Brest, Edinburgh, Liverpool, London, Marseilles, Naples, 
           Paris, Portugal, Rome, Spain, Tunis, Venice.

Germany:   Berlin, Denmark, Holland, Kiel, Moscow, Munich, Norway, Sevastopol, 
           Smyrna, St Petersburg, Sweden, Warsaw.
Turkey:    Ankara, Constantinople.
 
Austria:    7 Supply centers,  6 Units:  Builds   1 unit.

England:    0 Supply centers,  0 Units:  Builds   0 units.
France:    13 Supply centers, 13 Units:  Builds   0 units.
Germany:   12 Supply centers,  9 Units:  Builds   1 unit.
Italy:      0 Supply centers,  0 Units:  Builds   0 units.

Russia:     0 Supply centers,  0 Units:  Builds   0 units.
Turkey:     2 Supply centers,  1 Unit:   Builds   1 unit.
 
The next phase of dc378 will be Retreats for Fall of 1915.



 










 

[Reply]

dc378 fall 15 - catsfather   (Jul 07, 2011, 9:59 pm)

[Reply]

dc378 fall 15 - dkleiman   (Jul 07, 2011, 7:13 pm)
I’m unsure about the tournament scoring for centers.  It reads to me that 18 centers would yield more points than 13 centers, so it seems I should vote against the proposed solo concession.  Kind of goofy to me, but unless Hamish corrects my thinking, I’ll vote against it…

 

Weird.

 

--Dave

 




From: Sun Chung [mailto:sun.chung(at)gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, July 07, 2011 6:05 PM
To: Clark Landry
Cc: Michael Norton; Hamish Williams; chaosonejoe(at)yahoo.com; dave(at)thekleimans.com; blitz(at)diplomaticcorp.com
Subject: Re: dc378 fall 15



 

Sorry Clark - you're right.  This is definitely worse for Germany and I'm left with looking at a French solo here...  Voting for a French solo as well.


On Thu, Jul 7, 2011 at 2:46 PM, Clark Landry <clarklandry(at)gmail.com> wrote:



Vote yes for French solo. Not sure how this is better for Germany than a 4 way draw, but there you go.

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On Jul 7, 2011, at 2:44 PM, Michael Norton <mjn82(at)yahoo.com> wrote:






I am proposing and voting for a French Solo.



 



Mike



 




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Sent: Thursday, July 7, 2011 4:19 PM
Subject: dc378 fall 15


Well ... two retreats due from Germany, but as far as I can see we have a French Solo about to be declared.

The vote on the draw failed.

Movement results for Fall of 1915.  (dc37Cool
 
Austria: A Budapest Supports A Galicia - Vienna.
Austria: A Bulgaria Supports A Aegean Sea - Constantinople.
Austria: A Galicia - Vienna.
Austria: A Greece - Serbia.
Austria: A Rumania - Galicia (*Bounce*).
Austria: A Serbia - Albania.
Austria: A Trieste - Tyrolia (*Disbanded*).
 
France: F Adriatic Sea Supports A Venice - Trieste.
France: F Aegean Sea - Constantinople.
France: F Albania - Greece.
France: F Belgium Supports F North Sea - Holland.
France: A Gascony - Burgundy.
France: A Marseilles - Piedmont.
France: F Mid-Atlantic Ocean - English Channel.
France: F North Sea - Holland.
France: F Norwegian Sea - North Sea.
France: A Picardy Supports A Gascony - Burgundy.
France: A Piedmont - Venice.
France: F Smyrna Supports F Aegean Sea - Constantinople.
France: A Venice - Trieste.
 
Germany: A Armenia - Ankara (*Fails*).
Germany: A Constantinople Supports A Armenia - Ankara (*Disbanded*).
Germany: F Denmark Hold.
Germany: A Holland Hold (*Dislodged*).
Germany: A Munich Supports A Tyrolia.
Germany: A Norway - St Petersburg.
Germany: A Prussia - Warsaw.
Germany: A Sevastopol - Rumania (*Fails*).
Germany: A Silesia - Galicia (*Bounce*).
Germany: F Sweden - Norway.
Germany: A Tyrolia Supports A Vienna (*Cut*).
Germany: A Vienna Supports A Venice - Trieste (*Dislodged*).
 
Turkey: F Ankara Hold.
 
The following units were dislodged:
 
German A Holland can retreat to Ruhr or Kiel.
German A Vienna can retreat to Bohemia.
 
Unit locations:
 
Austria:   A Albania, A Budapest, A Bulgaria, A Rumania, A Serbia, A Vienna.
France:    F Adriatic Sea, F Belgium, A Burgundy, F Constantinople, F English 
           Channel, F Greece, F Holland, F North Sea, A Picardy, A Piedmont, F 
           Smyrna, A Trieste, A Venice.
Germany:   A Armenia, F Denmark, A Munich, F Norway, A Sevastopol, A Silesia, A 
           St Petersburg, A Tyrolia, A Warsaw.
Turkey:    F Ankara.
 
Ownership of supply centers:
 
Austria:   Budapest, Bulgaria, Greece, Rumania, Serbia, Trieste, Vienna.
France:    Belgium, Brest, Edinburgh, Liverpool, London, Marseilles, Naples, 
           Paris, Portugal, Rome, Spain, Tunis, Venice.
Germany:   Berlin, Denmark, Holland, Kiel, Moscow, Munich, Norway, Sevastopol, 
           Smyrna, St Petersburg, Sweden, Warsaw.
Turkey:    Ankara, Constantinople.
 
Austria:    7 Supply centers,  6 Units:  Builds   1 unit.
England:    0 Supply centers,  0 Units:  Builds   0 units.
France:    13 Supply centers, 13 Units:  Builds   0 units.
Germany:   12 Supply centers,  9 Units:  Builds   1 unit.
Italy:      0 Supply centers,  0 Units:  Builds   0 units.
Russia:     0 Supply centers,  0 Units:  Builds   0 units.
Turkey:     2 Supply centers,  1 Unit:   Builds   1 unit.
 
The next phase of dc378 will be Retreats for Fall of 1915.


 










 

[Reply]

dc378 fall 15 - sunchung   (Jul 07, 2011, 5:05 pm)

[Reply]

dc378 fall 15 - cl2849   (Jul 07, 2011, 4:46 pm)
Vote yes for French solo. Not sure how this is better for Germany than a 4 way draw, but there you go.

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On Jul 7, 2011, at 2:44 PM, Michael Norton <mjn82(at)yahoo.com> wrote:








I am proposing and voting for a French Solo.


 


Mike











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Sent: Thursday, July 7, 2011 4:19 PM
Subject: dc378 fall 15



Well ... two retreats due from Germany, but as far as I can see we have a French Solo about to be declared.

The vote on the draw failed.

Movement results for Fall of 1915.  (dc37Cool
 
Austria: A Budapest Supports A Galicia - Vienna.
Austria: A Bulgaria Supports A Aegean Sea - Constantinople.
Austria: A Galicia - Vienna.
Austria: A Greece - Serbia.
Austria: A Rumania - Galicia (*Bounce*).
Austria: A Serbia - Albania.
Austria: A Trieste - Tyrolia (*Disbanded*).
 
France: F Adriatic Sea Supports A Venice - Trieste.
France: F Aegean Sea - Constantinople.
France: F Albania - Greece.
France: F Belgium Supports F North Sea - Holland.
France: A Gascony - Burgundy.
France: A Marseilles - Piedmont.
France: F Mid-Atlantic Ocean - English Channel.
France: F North Sea - Holland.
France: F Norwegian Sea - North Sea.
France: A Picardy Supports A
Gascony - Burgundy.
France: A Piedmont - Venice.
France: F Smyrna Supports F Aegean Sea - Constantinople.
France: A Venice - Trieste.
 
Germany: A Armenia - Ankara (*Fails*).
Germany: A Constantinople Supports A Armenia - Ankara (*Disbanded*).
Germany: F Denmark Hold.
Germany: A Holland Hold (*Dislodged*).
Germany: A Munich Supports A Tyrolia.
Germany: A Norway - St Petersburg.
Germany: A Prussia - Warsaw.
Germany: A Sevastopol - Rumania (*Fails*).
Germany: A Silesia - Galicia (*Bounce*).
Germany: F Sweden - Norway.
Germany: A Tyrolia Supports A Vienna (*Cut*).
Germany: A Vienna Supports A Venice - Trieste (*Dislodged*).
 
Turkey: F Ankara Hold.
 
The following units were dislodged:
 
German A Holland can retreat to Ruhr or Kiel.
German A Vienna can retreat to Bohemia.
 
Unit locations:
 
Austria:   A Albania, A
Budapest, A Bulgaria, A Rumania, A Serbia, A Vienna.
France:    F Adriatic Sea, F Belgium, A Burgundy, F Constantinople, F English 
           Channel, F Greece, F Holland, F North Sea, A Picardy, A Piedmont, F 
           Smyrna, A Trieste, A Venice.
Germany:   A Armenia, F Denmark, A Munich, F Norway, A Sevastopol, A Silesia, A 
           St Petersburg, A Tyrolia, A Warsaw.
Turkey:    F Ankara.
 
Ownership of supply centers:
 
Austria:   Budapest, Bulgaria, Greece, Rumania, Serbia, Trieste, Vienna.
France:    Belgium, Brest, Edinburgh, Liverpool, London, Marseilles, Naples, 
           Paris, Portugal, Rome, Spain,
Tunis, Venice.
Germany:   Berlin, Denmark, Holland, Kiel, Moscow, Munich, Norway, Sevastopol, 
           Smyrna, St Petersburg, Sweden, Warsaw.
Turkey:    Ankara, Constantinople.
 
Austria:    7 Supply centers,  6 Units:  Builds   1 unit.
England:    0 Supply centers,  0 Units:  Builds   0 units.
France:    13 Supply centers, 13 Units:  Builds   0 units.
Germany:   12 Supply centers,  9 Units:  Builds   1 unit.
Italy:      0 Supply centers,  0 Units:  Builds   0 units.
Russia:     0 Supply centers,  0 Units:  Builds   0 units.
Turkey:     2 Supply centers,  1 Unit:  
Builds   1 unit.
 
The next phase of dc378 will be Retreats for Fall of 1915.

[Reply]

dc378 fall 15 - mjn82   (Jul 07, 2011, 4:44 pm)
I am proposing and voting for a French Solo.


 


Mike











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Sent: Thursday, July 7, 2011 4:19 PM
Subject: dc378 fall 15



Well ... two retreats due from Germany, but as far as I can see we have a French Solo about to be declared.

The vote on the draw failed.

Movement results for Fall of 1915.  (dc37Cool
 
Austria: A Budapest Supports A Galicia - Vienna.
Austria: A Bulgaria Supports A Aegean Sea - Constantinople.
Austria: A Galicia - Vienna.
Austria: A Greece - Serbia.
Austria: A Rumania - Galicia (*Bounce*).
Austria: A Serbia - Albania.
Austria: A Trieste - Tyrolia (*Disbanded*).
 
France: F Adriatic Sea Supports A Venice - Trieste.
France: F Aegean Sea - Constantinople.
France: F Albania - Greece.
France: F Belgium Supports F North Sea - Holland.
France: A Gascony - Burgundy.
France: A Marseilles - Piedmont.
France: F Mid-Atlantic Ocean - English Channel.
France: F North Sea - Holland.
France: F Norwegian Sea - North Sea.
France: A Picardy Supports A
Gascony - Burgundy.
France: A Piedmont - Venice.
France: F Smyrna Supports F Aegean Sea - Constantinople.
France: A Venice - Trieste.
 
Germany: A Armenia - Ankara (*Fails*).
Germany: A Constantinople Supports A Armenia - Ankara (*Disbanded*).
Germany: F Denmark Hold.
Germany: A Holland Hold (*Dislodged*).
Germany: A Munich Supports A Tyrolia.
Germany: A Norway - St Petersburg.
Germany: A Prussia - Warsaw.
Germany: A Sevastopol - Rumania (*Fails*).
Germany: A Silesia - Galicia (*Bounce*).
Germany: F Sweden - Norway.
Germany: A Tyrolia Supports A Vienna (*Cut*).
Germany: A Vienna Supports A Venice - Trieste (*Dislodged*).
 
Turkey: F Ankara Hold.
 
The following units were dislodged:
 
German A Holland can retreat to Ruhr or Kiel.
German A Vienna can retreat to Bohemia.
 
Unit locations:
 
Austria:   A Albania, A
Budapest, A Bulgaria, A Rumania, A Serbia, A Vienna.
France:    F Adriatic Sea, F Belgium, A Burgundy, F Constantinople, F English 
           Channel, F Greece, F Holland, F North Sea, A Picardy, A Piedmont, F 
           Smyrna, A Trieste, A Venice.
Germany:   A Armenia, F Denmark, A Munich, F Norway, A Sevastopol, A Silesia, A 
           St Petersburg, A Tyrolia, A Warsaw.
Turkey:    F Ankara.
 
Ownership of supply centers:
 
Austria:   Budapest, Bulgaria, Greece, Rumania, Serbia, Trieste, Vienna.
France:    Belgium, Brest, Edinburgh, Liverpool, London, Marseilles, Naples, 
           Paris, Portugal, Rome, Spain,
Tunis, Venice.
Germany:   Berlin, Denmark, Holland, Kiel, Moscow, Munich, Norway, Sevastopol, 
           Smyrna, St Petersburg, Sweden, Warsaw.
Turkey:    Ankara, Constantinople.
 
Austria:    7 Supply centers,  6 Units:  Builds   1 unit.
England:    0 Supply centers,  0 Units:  Builds   0 units.
France:    13 Supply centers, 13 Units:  Builds   0 units.
Germany:   12 Supply centers,  9 Units:  Builds   1 unit.
Italy:      0 Supply centers,  0 Units:  Builds   0 units.
Russia:     0 Supply centers,  0 Units:  Builds   0 units.
Turkey:     2 Supply centers,  1 Unit:  
Builds   1 unit.
 
The next phase of dc378 will be Retreats for Fall of 1915.

[Reply]

dc378 fall 15 - catsfather   (Jul 07, 2011, 4:19 pm)

[Reply]

dc378 fall 15 (Winter Blitz) mjn82 Jul 07, 04:44 pm
I am proposing and voting for a French Solo.


 


Mike











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Sent: Thursday, July 7, 2011 4:19 PM
Subject: dc378 fall 15



Well ... two retreats due from Germany, but as far as I can see we have a French Solo about to be declared.

The vote on the draw failed.

Movement results for Fall of 1915.  (dc37Cool
 
Austria: A Budapest Supports A Galicia - Vienna.
Austria: A Bulgaria Supports A Aegean Sea - Constantinople.
Austria: A Galicia - Vienna.
Austria: A Greece - Serbia.
Austria: A Rumania - Galicia (*Bounce*).
Austria: A Serbia - Albania.
Austria: A Trieste - Tyrolia (*Disbanded*).
 
France: F Adriatic Sea Supports A Venice - Trieste.
France: F Aegean Sea - Constantinople.
France: F Albania - Greece.
France: F Belgium Supports F North Sea - Holland.
France: A Gascony - Burgundy.
France: A Marseilles - Piedmont.
France: F Mid-Atlantic Ocean - English Channel.
France: F North Sea - Holland.
France: F Norwegian Sea - North Sea.
France: A Picardy Supports A
Gascony - Burgundy.
France: A Piedmont - Venice.
France: F Smyrna Supports F Aegean Sea - Constantinople.
France: A Venice - Trieste.
 
Germany: A Armenia - Ankara (*Fails*).
Germany: A Constantinople Supports A Armenia - Ankara (*Disbanded*).
Germany: F Denmark Hold.
Germany: A Holland Hold (*Dislodged*).
Germany: A Munich Supports A Tyrolia.
Germany: A Norway - St Petersburg.
Germany: A Prussia - Warsaw.
Germany: A Sevastopol - Rumania (*Fails*).
Germany: A Silesia - Galicia (*Bounce*).
Germany: F Sweden - Norway.
Germany: A Tyrolia Supports A Vienna (*Cut*).
Germany: A Vienna Supports A Venice - Trieste (*Dislodged*).
 
Turkey: F Ankara Hold.
 
The following units were dislodged:
 
German A Holland can retreat to Ruhr or Kiel.
German A Vienna can retreat to Bohemia.
 
Unit locations:
 
Austria:   A Albania, A
Budapest, A Bulgaria, A Rumania, A Serbia, A Vienna.
France:    F Adriatic Sea, F Belgium, A Burgundy, F Constantinople, F English 
           Channel, F Greece, F Holland, F North Sea, A Picardy, A Piedmont, F 
           Smyrna, A Trieste, A Venice.
Germany:   A Armenia, F Denmark, A Munich, F Norway, A Sevastopol, A Silesia, A 
           St Petersburg, A Tyrolia, A Warsaw.
Turkey:    F Ankara.
 
Ownership of supply centers:
 
Austria:   Budapest, Bulgaria, Greece, Rumania, Serbia, Trieste, Vienna.
France:    Belgium, Brest, Edinburgh, Liverpool, London, Marseilles, Naples, 
           Paris, Portugal, Rome, Spain,
Tunis, Venice.
Germany:   Berlin, Denmark, Holland, Kiel, Moscow, Munich, Norway, Sevastopol, 
           Smyrna, St Petersburg, Sweden, Warsaw.
Turkey:    Ankara, Constantinople.
 
Austria:    7 Supply centers,  6 Units:  Builds   1 unit.
England:    0 Supply centers,  0 Units:  Builds   0 units.
France:    13 Supply centers, 13 Units:  Builds   0 units.
Germany:   12 Supply centers,  9 Units:  Builds   1 unit.
Italy:      0 Supply centers,  0 Units:  Builds   0 units.
Russia:     0 Supply centers,  0 Units:  Builds   0 units.
Turkey:     2 Supply centers,  1 Unit:  
Builds   1 unit.
 
The next phase of dc378 will be Retreats for Fall of 1915.
dc378 fall 15 (Winter Blitz) cl2849 Jul 07, 04:46 pm
Vote yes for French solo. Not sure how this is better for Germany than a 4 way draw, but there you go.

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On Jul 7, 2011, at 2:44 PM, Michael Norton <mjn82(at)yahoo.com> wrote:








I am proposing and voting for a French Solo.


 


Mike











From: Hamish Williams <catsfather(at)gmail.com>
To: chaosonejoe(at)yahoo.com; clarklandry(at)gmail.com; dave(at)thekleimans.com; mjn82(at)yahoo.com; sun.chung(at)gmail.com
Cc: blitz(at)diplomaticcorp.com
Sent: Thursday, July 7, 2011 4:19 PM
Subject: dc378 fall 15



Well ... two retreats due from Germany, but as far as I can see we have a French Solo about to be declared.

The vote on the draw failed.

Movement results for Fall of 1915.  (dc37Cool
 
Austria: A Budapest Supports A Galicia - Vienna.
Austria: A Bulgaria Supports A Aegean Sea - Constantinople.
Austria: A Galicia - Vienna.
Austria: A Greece - Serbia.
Austria: A Rumania - Galicia (*Bounce*).
Austria: A Serbia - Albania.
Austria: A Trieste - Tyrolia (*Disbanded*).
 
France: F Adriatic Sea Supports A Venice - Trieste.
France: F Aegean Sea - Constantinople.
France: F Albania - Greece.
France: F Belgium Supports F North Sea - Holland.
France: A Gascony - Burgundy.
France: A Marseilles - Piedmont.
France: F Mid-Atlantic Ocean - English Channel.
France: F North Sea - Holland.
France: F Norwegian Sea - North Sea.
France: A Picardy Supports A
Gascony - Burgundy.
France: A Piedmont - Venice.
France: F Smyrna Supports F Aegean Sea - Constantinople.
France: A Venice - Trieste.
 
Germany: A Armenia - Ankara (*Fails*).
Germany: A Constantinople Supports A Armenia - Ankara (*Disbanded*).
Germany: F Denmark Hold.
Germany: A Holland Hold (*Dislodged*).
Germany: A Munich Supports A Tyrolia.
Germany: A Norway - St Petersburg.
Germany: A Prussia - Warsaw.
Germany: A Sevastopol - Rumania (*Fails*).
Germany: A Silesia - Galicia (*Bounce*).
Germany: F Sweden - Norway.
Germany: A Tyrolia Supports A Vienna (*Cut*).
Germany: A Vienna Supports A Venice - Trieste (*Dislodged*).
 
Turkey: F Ankara Hold.
 
The following units were dislodged:
 
German A Holland can retreat to Ruhr or Kiel.
German A Vienna can retreat to Bohemia.
 
Unit locations:
 
Austria:   A Albania, A
Budapest, A Bulgaria, A Rumania, A Serbia, A Vienna.
France:    F Adriatic Sea, F Belgium, A Burgundy, F Constantinople, F English 
           Channel, F Greece, F Holland, F North Sea, A Picardy, A Piedmont, F 
           Smyrna, A Trieste, A Venice.
Germany:   A Armenia, F Denmark, A Munich, F Norway, A Sevastopol, A Silesia, A 
           St Petersburg, A Tyrolia, A Warsaw.
Turkey:    F Ankara.
 
Ownership of supply centers:
 
Austria:   Budapest, Bulgaria, Greece, Rumania, Serbia, Trieste, Vienna.
France:    Belgium, Brest, Edinburgh, Liverpool, London, Marseilles, Naples, 
           Paris, Portugal, Rome, Spain,
Tunis, Venice.
Germany:   Berlin, Denmark, Holland, Kiel, Moscow, Munich, Norway, Sevastopol, 
           Smyrna, St Petersburg, Sweden, Warsaw.
Turkey:    Ankara, Constantinople.
 
Austria:    7 Supply centers,  6 Units:  Builds   1 unit.
England:    0 Supply centers,  0 Units:  Builds   0 units.
France:    13 Supply centers, 13 Units:  Builds   0 units.
Germany:   12 Supply centers,  9 Units:  Builds   1 unit.
Italy:      0 Supply centers,  0 Units:  Builds   0 units.
Russia:     0 Supply centers,  0 Units:  Builds   0 units.
Turkey:     2 Supply centers,  1 Unit:  
Builds   1 unit.
 
The next phase of dc378 will be Retreats for Fall of 1915.
dc378 fall 15 (Winter Blitz) sunchung Jul 07, 05:05 pm
dc378 fall 15 (Winter Blitz) dkleiman Jul 07, 07:13 pm
I’m unsure about the tournament scoring for centers.  It reads to me that 18 centers would yield more points than 13 centers, so it seems I should vote against the proposed solo concession.  Kind of goofy to me, but unless Hamish corrects my thinking, I’ll vote against it…

 

Weird.

 

--Dave

 




From: Sun Chung [mailto:sun.chung(at)gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, July 07, 2011 6:05 PM
To: Clark Landry
Cc: Michael Norton; Hamish Williams; chaosonejoe(at)yahoo.com; dave(at)thekleimans.com; blitz(at)diplomaticcorp.com
Subject: Re: dc378 fall 15



 

Sorry Clark - you're right.  This is definitely worse for Germany and I'm left with looking at a French solo here...  Voting for a French solo as well.


On Thu, Jul 7, 2011 at 2:46 PM, Clark Landry <clarklandry(at)gmail.com> wrote:



Vote yes for French solo. Not sure how this is better for Germany than a 4 way draw, but there you go.

Sent from my iPhone






On Jul 7, 2011, at 2:44 PM, Michael Norton <mjn82(at)yahoo.com> wrote:






I am proposing and voting for a French Solo.



 



Mike



 




From: Hamish Williams <catsfather(at)gmail.com>
To: chaosonejoe(at)yahoo.com; clarklandry(at)gmail.com; dave(at)thekleimans.com; mjn82(at)yahoo.com; sun.chung(at)gmail.com
Cc: blitz(at)diplomaticcorp.com
Sent: Thursday, July 7, 2011 4:19 PM
Subject: dc378 fall 15


Well ... two retreats due from Germany, but as far as I can see we have a French Solo about to be declared.

The vote on the draw failed.

Movement results for Fall of 1915.  (dc37Cool
 
Austria: A Budapest Supports A Galicia - Vienna.
Austria: A Bulgaria Supports A Aegean Sea - Constantinople.
Austria: A Galicia - Vienna.
Austria: A Greece - Serbia.
Austria: A Rumania - Galicia (*Bounce*).
Austria: A Serbia - Albania.
Austria: A Trieste - Tyrolia (*Disbanded*).
 
France: F Adriatic Sea Supports A Venice - Trieste.
France: F Aegean Sea - Constantinople.
France: F Albania - Greece.
France: F Belgium Supports F North Sea - Holland.
France: A Gascony - Burgundy.
France: A Marseilles - Piedmont.
France: F Mid-Atlantic Ocean - English Channel.
France: F North Sea - Holland.
France: F Norwegian Sea - North Sea.
France: A Picardy Supports A Gascony - Burgundy.
France: A Piedmont - Venice.
France: F Smyrna Supports F Aegean Sea - Constantinople.
France: A Venice - Trieste.
 
Germany: A Armenia - Ankara (*Fails*).
Germany: A Constantinople Supports A Armenia - Ankara (*Disbanded*).
Germany: F Denmark Hold.
Germany: A Holland Hold (*Dislodged*).
Germany: A Munich Supports A Tyrolia.
Germany: A Norway - St Petersburg.
Germany: A Prussia - Warsaw.
Germany: A Sevastopol - Rumania (*Fails*).
Germany: A Silesia - Galicia (*Bounce*).
Germany: F Sweden - Norway.
Germany: A Tyrolia Supports A Vienna (*Cut*).
Germany: A Vienna Supports A Venice - Trieste (*Dislodged*).
 
Turkey: F Ankara Hold.
 
The following units were dislodged:
 
German A Holland can retreat to Ruhr or Kiel.
German A Vienna can retreat to Bohemia.
 
Unit locations:
 
Austria:   A Albania, A Budapest, A Bulgaria, A Rumania, A Serbia, A Vienna.
France:    F Adriatic Sea, F Belgium, A Burgundy, F Constantinople, F English 
           Channel, F Greece, F Holland, F North Sea, A Picardy, A Piedmont, F 
           Smyrna, A Trieste, A Venice.
Germany:   A Armenia, F Denmark, A Munich, F Norway, A Sevastopol, A Silesia, A 
           St Petersburg, A Tyrolia, A Warsaw.
Turkey:    F Ankara.
 
Ownership of supply centers:
 
Austria:   Budapest, Bulgaria, Greece, Rumania, Serbia, Trieste, Vienna.
France:    Belgium, Brest, Edinburgh, Liverpool, London, Marseilles, Naples, 
           Paris, Portugal, Rome, Spain, Tunis, Venice.
Germany:   Berlin, Denmark, Holland, Kiel, Moscow, Munich, Norway, Sevastopol, 
           Smyrna, St Petersburg, Sweden, Warsaw.
Turkey:    Ankara, Constantinople.
 
Austria:    7 Supply centers,  6 Units:  Builds   1 unit.
England:    0 Supply centers,  0 Units:  Builds   0 units.
France:    13 Supply centers, 13 Units:  Builds   0 units.
Germany:   12 Supply centers,  9 Units:  Builds   1 unit.
Italy:      0 Supply centers,  0 Units:  Builds   0 units.
Russia:     0 Supply centers,  0 Units:  Builds   0 units.
Turkey:     2 Supply centers,  1 Unit:   Builds   1 unit.
 
The next phase of dc378 will be Retreats for Fall of 1915.


 










 
dc378 fall 15 (Winter Blitz) catsfather Jul 07, 09:59 pm
dc378 fall 15 (Winter Blitz) cl2849 Jul 07, 10:02 pm
Congrats France! Well deserved win.

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On Jul 7, 2011, at 7:59 PM, Hamish Williams <catsfather(at)gmail.com> wrote:







Germany retreats (or does nothing and disbands). We move to winter and France has won with 18 centres. 







On 8 Jul 2011, at 01:13, "Dave Kleiman" <dave(at)thekleimans.com> wrote:









I???m unsure about the tournament scoring for centers.  It reads to me that 18 centers would yield more points than 13 centers, so it seems I should vote against the proposed solo concession.  Kind of goofy to me, but unless Hamish corrects my thinking, I???ll vote against it???


 

Weird.


 

--Dave


 





From: Sun Chung [mailto:sun.chung(at)gmail.com]

Sent: Thursday, July 07, 2011 6:05 PM
To: Clark Landry
Cc: Michael Norton; Hamish Williams; chaosonejoe(at)yahoo.com; dave(at)thekleimans.com; blitz(at)diplomaticcorp.com

Subject: Re: dc378 fall 15



 

Sorry Clark - you're right.  This is definitely worse for Germany and I'm left with looking at a French solo here...  Voting for a French solo as well.



On Thu, Jul 7, 2011 at 2:46 PM, Clark Landry <clarklandry(at)gmail.com> wrote:




Vote yes for French solo. Not sure how this is better for Germany than a 4 way draw, but there you go.

Sent from my iPhone






On Jul 7, 2011, at 2:44 PM, Michael Norton <mjn82(at)yahoo.com> wrote:







I am proposing and voting for a French Solo.




 



Mike




 





From: Hamish Williams <catsfather(at)gmail.com>

To: chaosonejoe(at)yahoo.com; clarklandry(at)gmail.com; dave(at)thekleimans.com; mjn82(at)yahoo.com; sun.chung(at)gmail.com

Cc: blitz(at)diplomaticcorp.com
Sent: Thursday, July 7, 2011 4:19 PM
Subject: dc378 fall 15



Well ... two retreats due from Germany, but as far as I can see we have a French Solo about to be declared.

The vote on the draw failed.


Movement results for Fall of 1915.  (dc37Cool
 
Austria: A Budapest Supports A Galicia - Vienna.
Austria: A Bulgaria Supports A Aegean Sea - Constantinople.
Austria: A Galicia - Vienna.
Austria: A Greece - Serbia.

Austria: A Rumania - Galicia (*Bounce*).
Austria: A Serbia - Albania.
Austria: A Trieste - Tyrolia (*Disbanded*).
 
France: F Adriatic Sea Supports A Venice - Trieste.
France: F Aegean Sea - Constantinople.

France: F Albania - Greece.
France: F Belgium Supports F North Sea - Holland.
France: A Gascony - Burgundy.
France: A Marseilles - Piedmont.
France: F Mid-Atlantic Ocean - English Channel.
France: F North Sea - Holland.

France: F Norwegian Sea - North Sea.
France: A Picardy Supports A Gascony - Burgundy.
France: A Piedmont - Venice.
France: F Smyrna Supports F Aegean Sea - Constantinople.
France: A Venice - Trieste.
 

Germany: A Armenia - Ankara (*Fails*).
Germany: A Constantinople Supports A Armenia - Ankara (*Disbanded*).
Germany: F Denmark Hold.
Germany: A Holland Hold (*Dislodged*).
Germany: A Munich Supports A Tyrolia.

Germany: A Norway - St Petersburg.
Germany: A Prussia - Warsaw.
Germany: A Sevastopol - Rumania (*Fails*).
Germany: A Silesia - Galicia (*Bounce*).
Germany: F Sweden - Norway.
Germany: A Tyrolia Supports A Vienna (*Cut*).

Germany: A Vienna Supports A Venice - Trieste (*Dislodged*).
 
Turkey: F Ankara Hold.
 
The following units were dislodged:
 
German A Holland can retreat to Ruhr or Kiel.
German A Vienna can retreat to Bohemia.

 
Unit locations:
 
Austria:   A Albania, A Budapest, A Bulgaria, A Rumania, A Serbia, A Vienna.
France:    F Adriatic Sea, F Belgium, A Burgundy, F Constantinople, F English 
           Channel, F Greece, F Holland, F North Sea, A Picardy, A Piedmont, F 

           Smyrna, A Trieste, A Venice.
Germany:   A Armenia, F Denmark, A Munich, F Norway, A Sevastopol, A Silesia, A 
           St Petersburg, A Tyrolia, A Warsaw.
Turkey:    F Ankara.
 
Ownership of supply centers:

 
Austria:   Budapest, Bulgaria, Greece, Rumania, Serbia, Trieste, Vienna.
France:    Belgium, Brest, Edinburgh, Liverpool, London, Marseilles, Naples, 
           Paris, Portugal, Rome, Spain, Tunis, Venice.

Germany:   Berlin, Denmark, Holland, Kiel, Moscow, Munich, Norway, Sevastopol, 
           Smyrna, St Petersburg, Sweden, Warsaw.
Turkey:    Ankara, Constantinople.
 
Austria:    7 Supply centers,  6 Units:  Builds   1 unit.

England:    0 Supply centers,  0 Units:  Builds   0 units.
France:    13 Supply centers, 13 Units:  Builds   0 units.
Germany:   12 Supply centers,  9 Units:  Builds   1 unit.
Italy:      0 Supply centers,  0 Units:  Builds   0 units.

Russia:     0 Supply centers,  0 Units:  Builds   0 units.
Turkey:     2 Supply centers,  1 Unit:   Builds   1 unit.
 
The next phase of dc378 will be Retreats for Fall of 1915.



 










 
dc378 fall 15 (Winter Blitz) dkleiman Jul 08, 07:55 am
Thanks, all.

 

Here???s a short EOG:

 

I approached England and Germany to start the game, proposing a western triple alliance (once it seemed that both would be reasonable partners).?? I was fully sincere about taking it to the end of the game and remaining loyal to it, although England and I had some initial conversations about moving it to a EF traditional alliance, if it seemed to make sense.?? After the first couple of moves, it seemed that EFG were hitting on all cylinders, and coupled with a couple of missed orders?? by Italy and Turkey, I was moving quickly in the Med.

 

Austria approached me about working together to eliminate Italy quickly and then turning towards Turkey, and I accepted.?? I didn???t stay loyal long to Austria, but was in the ION with Italy crippled.?? Italy offered to work as my toadie (do people still call it that?) against either Austria or Turkey, and I was good with that until I got worried about needing an urgent build in the west, and I took his last center.?? Frankly, it was a very poor decision on my part, and I should have been chastised more than I was.?? Of course, Joe had turned against Sun in the west, and I really imagined risk of an English win, so I turned full attention to attacking England.?? I suspect he was a little surprised by my reaction to his attack on Germany, but, to be honest, he didn???t do anything to try to cultivate my alliance, so it was really easy for me to stay loyal to Germany.?? Meantime, in the Med, things stayed a balance for me with Austria and Turkey.?? Once I had some success in the west, then AFG were also able to start making progress against Turkey.

 

As my success with England moved quickly ??? maybe too quickly ??? I started to consider a push for a solo.?? I decided that if I did so, I would let Germany and Austria know and not stab.?? When I finally did this, I figured it was about 50/50 if I could make the right guesses to get to 18.?? I messed up a convoy move from England to Belgium which really hurt me.?? It delayed the ability for me to push the fleets into Scandinavia by one turn, which proved to be fatal to my efforts.?? Sun moved decisively and had very solid tactics, and it was clear to me that he???d stopped me in the north.

 

At that point, there was talk about a 4-way, but I told Sun and Mike that I would only settle for a 3-way.?? I???ve always felt that the game wasn???t over if more than ?? of the powers still remained.?? I also started pressing Sun on the idea of a 2-way, which we eventually agreed to move forward to accomplish.?? The thing about this 2-way is that either of us could push for a win once we got close, and it was very likely that Mike or Clark would approach one of us making that offer or Mike might defend against only one of us, making a solo a threat.?? I truly was committed to the 2-way draw and had no intentions of taking advantage of the situation.

 

Then Mike approached me. He said that Sun had turned him down.?? I reviewed the map and when I saw it was possible to end the game in one big move this season, I thought it was worth trying.?? If I had gotten to 17 or 16 this season, I think Sun might have been able to turn this on me and get a solo himself, so it was really an all-or-nothing move.?? I also wondered if Mike was sincere and after a few exchanges about tactics, I concluded that he was.?? In the end, if the move had not worked, I would have tried to salvage the 2-way, would have accepted a 3-way, and would have been OK if Sun ended up with a solo instead.

 

It was a very fun game (easy to say that because of the outcome for me).?? I enjoyed the ongoing conversations with Sun and Mike, and there were lots of interesting turns and twists.?? Joe???s move against Germany presented some interesting dynamics, as did the constant balance back and forth with Turkey and Austria.?? Russia was also a great conversationalist early on, but the western triple and the good relationship that I had with Sun really doomed the traditional F/R cooperation opportunities.?? I???ve played Dip for many years (guess I started in 197Cool, published a PBM magazine for many years, produced Diplomacy World, and then ran a number of judge servers supporting the PBEM internet dip community.?? Over the course of the years, there are?? a few games that stand out in my memory, and I suspect that this one will be one of those.

 

Thanks, all, for a good game.

 

--Dave

 



From: Clark Landry [mailto:clarklandry(at)gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, July 07, 2011 11:03 PM
To: Hamish Williams
Cc: Dave Kleiman; Sun Chung; Michael Norton; <chaosonejoe(at)yahoo.com>; <blitz(at)diplomaticcorp.com>
Subject: Re: dc378 fall 15



 


Congrats France! Well deserved win.

Sent from my iPhone




On Jul 7, 2011, at 7:59 PM, Hamish Williams <catsfather(at)gmail.com> wrote:





Germany retreats (or does nothing and disbands). We move to winter and France has won with 18 centres. 


 





On 8 Jul 2011, at 01:13, "Dave Kleiman" <dave(at)thekleimans.com> wrote:





I???m unsure about the tournament scoring for centers.  It reads to me that 18 centers would yield more points than 13 centers, so it seems I should vote against the proposed solo concession.  Kind of goofy to me, but unless Hamish corrects my thinking, I???ll vote against it???

 

Weird.

 

--Dave

 




From: Sun Chung [mailto:sun.chung(at)gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, July 07, 2011 6:05 PM
To: Clark Landry
Cc: Michael Norton; Hamish Williams; chaosonejoe(at)yahoo.com; dave(at)thekleimans.com; blitz(at)diplomaticcorp.com
Subject: Re: dc378 fall 15



 

Sorry Clark - you're right.  This is definitely worse for Germany and I'm left with looking at a French solo here...  Voting for a French solo as well.


On Thu, Jul 7, 2011 at 2:46 PM, Clark Landry <clarklandry(at)gmail.com> wrote:



Vote yes for French solo. Not sure how this is better for Germany than a 4 way draw, but there you go.

Sent from my iPhone






On Jul 7, 2011, at 2:44 PM, Michael Norton <mjn82(at)yahoo.com> wrote:






I am proposing and voting for a French Solo.



 



Mike



 




From: Hamish Williams <catsfather(at)gmail.com>
To: chaosonejoe(at)yahoo.com; clarklandry(at)gmail.com; dave(at)thekleimans.com; mjn82(at)yahoo.com; sun.chung(at)gmail.com
Cc: blitz(at)diplomaticcorp.com
Sent: Thursday, July 7, 2011 4:19 PM
Subject: dc378 fall 15


Well ... two retreats due from Germany, but as far as I can see we have a French Solo about to be declared.

The vote on the draw failed.

Movement results for Fall of 1915.  (dc37Cool
 
Austria: A Budapest Supports A Galicia - Vienna.
Austria: A Bulgaria Supports A Aegean Sea - Constantinople.
Austria: A Galicia - Vienna.
Austria: A Greece - Serbia.
Austria: A Rumania - Galicia (*Bounce*).
Austria: A Serbia - Albania.
Austria: A Trieste - Tyrolia (*Disbanded*).
 
France: F Adriatic Sea Supports A Venice - Trieste.
France: F Aegean Sea - Constantinople.
France: F Albania - Greece.
France: F Belgium Supports F North Sea - Holland.
France: A Gascony - Burgundy.
France: A Marseilles - Piedmont.
France: F Mid-Atlantic Ocean - English Channel.
France: F North Sea - Holland.
France: F Norwegian Sea - North Sea.
France: A Picardy Supports A Gascony - Burgundy.
France: A Piedmont - Venice.
France: F Smyrna Supports F Aegean Sea - Constantinople.
France: A Venice - Trieste.
 
Germany: A Armenia - Ankara (*Fails*).
Germany: A Constantinople Supports A Armenia - Ankara (*Disbanded*).
Germany: F Denmark Hold.
Germany: A Holland Hold (*Dislodged*).
Germany: A Munich Supports A Tyrolia.
Germany: A Norway - St Petersburg.
Germany: A Prussia - Warsaw.
Germany: A Sevastopol - Rumania (*Fails*).
Germany: A Silesia - Galicia (*Bounce*).
Germany: F Sweden - Norway.
Germany: A Tyrolia Supports A Vienna (*Cut*).
Germany: A Vienna Supports A Venice - Trieste (*Dislodged*).
 
Turkey: F Ankara Hold.
 
The following units were dislodged:
 
German A Holland can retreat to Ruhr or Kiel.
German A Vienna can retreat to Bohemia.
 
Unit locations:
 
Austria:   A Albania, A Budapest, A Bulgaria, A Rumania, A Serbia, A Vienna.
France:    F Adriatic Sea, F Belgium, A Burgundy, F Constantinople, F English 
           Channel, F Greece, F Holland, F North Sea, A Picardy, A Piedmont, F 
           Smyrna, A Trieste, A Venice.
Germany:   A Armenia, F Denmark, A Munich, F Norway, A Sevastopol, A Silesia, A 
           St Petersburg, A Tyrolia, A Warsaw.
Turkey:    F Ankara.
 
Ownership of supply centers:
 
Austria:   Budapest, Bulgaria, Greece, Rumania, Serbia, Trieste, Vienna.
France:    Belgium, Brest, Edinburgh, Liverpool, London, Marseilles, Naples, 
           Paris, Portugal, Rome, Spain, Tunis, Venice.
Germany:   Berlin, Denmark, Holland, Kiel, Moscow, Munich, Norway, Sevastopol, 
           Smyrna, St Petersburg, Sweden, Warsaw.
Turkey:    Ankara, Constantinople.
 
Austria:    7 Supply centers,  6 Units:  Builds   1 unit.
England:    0 Supply centers,  0 Units:  Builds   0 units.
France:    13 Supply centers, 13 Units:  Builds   0 units.
Germany:   12 Supply centers,  9 Units:  Builds   1 unit.
Italy:      0 Supply centers,  0 Units:  Builds   0 units.
Russia:     0 Supply centers,  0 Units:  Builds   0 units.
Turkey:     2 Supply centers,  1 Unit:   Builds   1 unit.
 
The next phase of dc378 will be Retreats for Fall of 1915.


 










 
dc378 fall 15 (Winter Blitz) mjn82 Jul 08, 09:10 am
Well Austria is always a challenge and I believe you have to grow to five centers quickly or you become too tempting a target.  My hope, which I thought I accomplished was to have alliances with Italy and Russia, but I was disappointed to see Russia let Turkey take the Black Sea.  Russia seemed so concerned with Germany that he didn't want to alienate either A or T and I think that ended up being his undoing.  As for Italy that NMR was disastrous and with my inability to get R to commit against T, i decided to take the Italian centers and cooperate with France.  I just wish he had decided to shift against Britain
earlier and left me with those centers.


 


With Russia disappearing and a deal in place with F, i wanted to take Tout, an objective from the start, but he reneged and I quickly found my self being eaten at the edges from every direction.  I was proud to see Austria emerge from the brink and believe that was possible as I was able to argue with F the point that T was more of a threat to him with their fleet.


 


G and I, had a non aggression pact from the start that was very helpful in letting us focus where we needed to.  I really hoped that would establish a friendship that would last when he turned on F or E.  I really didn't believe an E, F, G would last the whole game.  It lasted a little longer than I needed it to. Had it dissipated a year earlier I would have been in great position.


 


My greatest error was hitting Italy in the game.  He would have been a great barrier against France  and would have allowed me to both assist him and deal with the west. 


 


Anyway Dave described the late game very well.  I was obviously happy with a three way and very surprised that f and G would go for a 2 way.  I don't believe in two ways and offered my assistance first to G, who was loyal to F and declined,  then to France.  i wasn't sure France would go for it til I saw the final set of results and I congratulate Dave.  I figured Dave would be hoping the attack on Vienna might precipitate my support for his solo.  and in the end it did. 


 


Ended up being a great and fun game.  Let's do it again sometime. 


 


I am an avid 190 player.  you all should give it a go.


 


Mike
dc378 fall 15 (Winter Blitz) chaosonejoe Jul 08, 12:02 pm
 



England EOG


 


The opening EFG alliance was strong, but definitely unsustainable. I was looking for an 'out' rather quickly, when I realized that I was in a bad position with the agreements.


 


I was expecting a quick demise of Russia, from the rumors sweeping around, but that didn't happen quite fast enough for me to expand.


 


Both France and Germany played well, and I couldn't sway them, so the writing was on the wall. As Michael indicated, I was very surprised by his reaction, but that's what I would have done as well. There was a window where I could have had the chance to run the board, but I was one turn off, and France was able to pivot far faster than I hoped.


 


Germany played tough, but Sun and I got caught in the trust issues, and I got caught in a death spiral.


 


I had one or two horrible moves and the one miss of retreats, which completely doomed me.


 


My learned lessons: EFG is confirmed again to be an impossible alliance for E, and if you're worried about being the one ganged up on by the two, you probably will be, either by design or self-fulfilling prophecy.


 


--Joe


 


 
DC 388 Fall 02 Deadline Reminder - fencertim   (Jul 07, 2011, 2:03 pm)
A little more than 24 hours before the
deadline and I am well short of a full compliment of orders. I have confirmed
what I have….


 


 


Thanks,


Tim

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DC 388 Fall 02 Deadline Reminder (dc388) fencertim Jul 07, 02:03 pm
A little more than 24 hours before the
deadline and I am well short of a full compliment of orders. I have confirmed
what I have….


 


 


Thanks,


Tim
DC 388 Fall 02 Deadline Reminder - fencertim   (Jul 07, 2011, 2:03 pm)
A little more than 24 hours before the
deadline and I am well short of a full compliment of orders. I have confirmed
what I have….


 


 


Thanks,


Tim

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dc374 f15 results! - FuzzyLogic   (Jul 07, 2011, 11:06 am)
Some interesting developments as the Turks lose Tuscany here.  But on a positive note, Turkey can build 2.


 


2 Turk builds, due tomorrow 8am Central, or I'll send them out whenever I get them.


 


Draw fails, 2 more proposed for your nay-saying pleasure this coming spring.  3-way and 2-way ET.


 


Enjoy!


-mike


 


England:
F Berlin Supports F Prussia
F Gulf of Bothnia Supports A St Petersburg
A Holland - Ruhr
A Kiel - Munich (*Fails*)
F Mid-Atlantic Ocean Supports F Gulf of Lyon - Western Mediterranean
A Munich - Tyrolia (*Bounce*)
F North Atlantic Ocean Supports F Mid-Atlantic Ocean
F North Sea - Norway
F Prussia Hold
A St Petersburg Hold
A Sweden Hold
A Venice - Tuscany


 


France:
A Burgundy Supports A Kiel - Munich
F Gulf of Lyon - Western Mediterranean (*Fails*)
A Piedmont Supports A Venice - Tuscany
F Spain(sc) Supports F Gulf of Lyon - Western Mediterranean (*Fails*)
F Western Mediterranean - Tyrrhenian Sea (*Bounce*)


 


Turkey:
F Aegean Sea - Greece
A Apulia Supports A Tyrolia - Venice
A Bulgaria - Rumania
A Constantinople - Bulgaria
F Ionian Sea - Tyrrhenian Sea (*Bounce*)
A Livonia - St Petersburg (*Fails*)
A Moscow Supports A Livonia - St Petersburg
F North Africa Supports F Tunis
A Silesia - Prussia (*Fails*)
A Trieste Supports A Tyrolia - Venice
F Tunis, no move received
F Tuscany - Gulf of Lyon (*Disbanded*)
A Tyrolia - Venice
F Tyrrhenian Sea - Rome
A Vienna - Tyrolia (*Bounce*)
A Warsaw Supports A Silesia - Prussia


 


 


 

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DC 373: S1908 Adjudication - Caesar's Birthday Nex... - AceRimmer   (Jul 07, 2011, 8:52 am)
Point rendered moot, but yes, I would've allowed it, since you gave quite a bit of advanced notice.

--- On Wed, 7/6/11, Jack McHugh <jwmchughjr(at)gmail.com> wrote:


From: Jack McHugh <jwmchughjr(at)gmail.com>
Subject: Re: DC 373: S1908 Adjudication - Caesar's Birthday Next Week
To: "Dirk Knemeyer" <dirk(at)knemeyer.com>
Cc: "Adam Martin-Schwarze" <smegdwarf(at)yahoo.com>, "Tom Barrows" <tom.barrows(at)gmail.com>, "Jack Cope" <jackcope(at)btinternet.com>, "DC 373" <dc373(at)diplomaticcorp.com>, "Mark Mizak" <archimedeslives(at)yahoo.com>, "Matt O',Donnell" <gizmo8204(at)yahoo.com>, "Stephen Osellame" <blomidonpark(at)yahoo.ca>
Date: Wednesday, July 6, 2011, 11:10 PM


i'll vote no to that draw right now








A dog owns nothing, yet is seldom dissatisfied.








On Wed, Jul 6, 2011 at 11:15 PM, Dirk Knemeyer <dirk(at)knemeyer.com> wrote:


Hi Adam,



I'm going to propose a 3-way England-France-Germany draw. Can that be voted on in the fall?



Dirk









On Jul 6, 2011, at 5:24 PM, Adam Martin-Schwarze wrote:



> ???It is only hubris if I fail???

> - G. J. Caesar

>

> If our muse for this game is to be believed, Austria is full of hubris.  Though, of course, it is better to fail than to lose outright, and Austria is far from losing in spite of his besieged current circumstances.  Still, season after season, he piles up those *Fail* flags.  It???s sheer hubris.


>

> The great drama of this season is the English capture (and disbanding) of Warsaw.  In exchange, he leaves Moscow open to the Sevastopudlians (surely, it???s like Liverpool ??? Liverpudlians, right?).  When one puts those two together, one wonders whether Russia may have been better served by A Sev S A Ukr-Mos rather than the other way around ??? thus leaving open a retreat to Ukraine.


>

> In the South, the Ionian and Tyrrhenian Seas are impassible, but France zigs while Russia zags, and that French fleet in Aegean Sea seems unpleasant.

>

> Elsewhere, there are various EFG movements into places like Munich, Ruhr, Helgoland Bight, St. Petersburg, Baltic Sea, and the Channel.  I leave it for you to sort out.

>

> There are no retreats, as the only dislodged unit must disband.  Therefore, Fall 1908 will be next Wednesday on July 13, which I believe is Julius Caesar???s 2,110th birthday (though it may also be July 12).  Let???s celebrate it right.


>

> Spring 1908 Adjudication

>

> Austria:

> a tyr-mun (*Fails*)

> a vie-tyr (*Fails*)

> a boh-sil (*Fails*)

> a gal s RUSSIAN a war

> f tri-allb

> a gre s f tri-alb

> f ion s f nap-tys (*Cut*)

> f nap-tys (*Fails*)

>

> England:

> F Bar C Edi - StP

> F Bel - Eng

> F BOT - Bal

> A Edi - StP

> A LVN S Mos - War

> A Mos - War

> F NRG C Edi - StP

> A Pru S Mos ??? War

>

> France:

> Fleet Eastern Mediterranean Move To Aegean Sea

> Fleet Tyrhennian Sea Support Fleet Tunis move to Ionian Sea (*Cut*)

> Fleet Tunis move to Ionian Sea (*Fails*)

> Fleet Western Med Support Fleet Tyrhennian Sea

> Army Burgundy Support German Army Ruhr To Munich

> Army Marseilles Move To Piedmont (*Fails*)

> Army Holland Move To Ruhr

>

> Germany:

> F Denmark - Helgoland Bight

> A Ruhr - Munich

> A Berlin support A Silesia

> A Silesia support English Army Moscow to Warsaw (*Cut*)

>

> Italy:

> F Rom Supports Austrian F Nap to Tys

> A Pie Holds

> A Tus Supports A Pie

>

> Russia:

> War supports Sev into Mos (*Disbanded*)

> Ukr supports Sev into Mos

> Sev Into Mos



> Aeg to Smy<DC 373.dpy><current.GIF><DC 373 S1908.GIF>

[Reply]

dc378 - catsfather   (Jul 07, 2011, 2:24 am)

[Reply]

DC372 - Fall 1906 - Viper   (Jul 07, 2011, 1:21 am)

[Reply]

DC 373: S1908 Adjudication - Caesar's Birthday Nex... - FlapJack   (Jul 06, 2011, 11:10 pm)

[Reply]

DC 373: S1908 Adjudication - Caesar's Birthday Nex... - dknemeyer   (Jul 06, 2011, 10:15 pm)
Hi Adam,
I'm going to propose a 3-way England-France-Germany draw. Can that be voted on in the fall?
Dirk

On Jul 6, 2011, at 5:24 PM, Adam Martin-Schwarze wrote:
"It is only hubris if I fail"
- G. J. Caesar

If our muse for this game is to be believed, Austria is full of hubris. Though, of course, it is better to fail than to lose outright, and Austria is far from losing in spite of his besieged current circumstances. Still, season after season, he piles up those *Fail* flags. It's sheer hubris.

The great drama of this season is the English capture (and disbanding) of Warsaw. In exchange, he leaves Moscow open to the Sevastopudlians (surely, it's like Liverpool - Liverpudlians, right?). When one puts those two together, one wonders whether Russia may have been better served by A Sev S A Ukr-Mos rather than the other way around - thus leaving open a retreat to Ukraine.

In the South, the Ionian and Tyrrhenian Seas are impassible, but France zigs while Russia zags, and that French fleet in Aegean Sea seems unpleasant.

Elsewhere, there are various EFG movements into places like Munich, Ruhr, Helgoland Bight, St. Petersburg, Baltic Sea, and the Channel. I leave it for you to sort out.

There are no retreats, as the only dislodged unit must disband. Therefore, Fall 1908 will be next Wednesday on July 13, which I believe is Julius Caesar's 2,110th birthday (though it may also be July 12). Let's celebrate it right.

Spring 1908 Adjudication

Austria:
a tyr-mun (*Fails*)
a vie-tyr (*Fails*)
a boh-sil (*Fails*)
a gal s RUSSIAN a war
f tri-allb
a gre s f tri-alb
f ion s f nap-tys (*Cut*)
f nap-tys (*Fails*)

England:
F Bar C Edi - StP
F Bel - Eng
F BOT - Bal
A Edi - StP
A LVN S Mos - War
A Mos - War
F NRG C Edi - StP
A Pru S Mos - War

France:
Fleet Eastern Mediterranean Move To Aegean Sea
Fleet Tyrhennian Sea Support Fleet Tunis move to Ionian Sea (*Cut*)
Fleet Tunis move to Ionian Sea (*Fails*)
Fleet Western Med Support Fleet Tyrhennian Sea
Army Burgundy Support German Army Ruhr To Munich
Army Marseilles Move To Piedmont (*Fails*)
Army Holland Move To Ruhr

Germany:
F Denmark - Helgoland Bight
A Ruhr - Munich
A Berlin support A Silesia
A Silesia support English Army Moscow to Warsaw (*Cut*)

Italy:
F Rom Supports Austrian F Nap to Tys
A Pie Holds
A Tus Supports A Pie

Russia:
War supports Sev into Mos (*Disbanded*)
Ukr supports Sev into Mos
Sev Into Mos
Aeg to Smy

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dc389 s02 results! - FuzzyLogic   (Jul 06, 2011, 6:40 pm)
Clashes all over the place – Skaggerak is the center of a bounce that sets all sorts of units back, while the south is no more peaceful with battles in Greece and Rumania… Italy sets up a classic Lepanto… and France has all sorts of options… Should be an interesting Fall – Due Tuesday!  July 12, 3pm Central.  There is one retreat but I just moved Turk A Con-Bul since it’s really the only option.

 

Enjoy,

-mike

 

Austria:

F Albania - Greece (*Bounce*)

A Budapest - Serbia

A Serbia - Bulgaria

A Trieste Hold

 

England:

A Belgium Supports A Burgundy - Ruhr

F Edinburgh - North Sea

A London Hold

F North Sea - Helgoland Bight

F Norway - Skagerrak (*Bounce*)

 

France:

A Burgundy - Ruhr

A Paris - Picardy

F Portugal - Mid-Atlantic Ocean

A Spain - Gascony

 

Germany:

A Berlin - Kiel (*Fails*)

F Denmark - Skagerrak (*Bounce*)

A Holland - Ruhr (*Bounce*)

A Kiel - Denmark (*Fails*)

A Munich - Ruhr (*Bounce*)

 

Italy:

F Ionian Sea - Eastern Mediterranean

F Naples - Ionian Sea

A Tunis Hold

A Venice Hold

 

Russia:

A Galicia - Ukraine

A Moscow - Sevastopol

A Rumania Supports A Serbia - Bulgaria

F Sevastopol - Armenia

F St Petersburg(sc) - Gulf of Bothnia

F Sweden - Baltic Sea

 

Turkey:

F Ankara - Black Sea

A Armenia - Syria

A Bulgaria - Greece (*Dislodged*)

F Constantinople - Aegean Sea

 

[Reply]

dc389 s02 results! (dc389) FuzzyLogic Jul 11, 07:27 am
Just a lil reminder we're due tomorrow!


-mike






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Clashes all over the place – Skaggerak is the center of a bounce that sets all sorts of units back, while the south is no more peaceful with battles in Greece and Rumania… Italy sets up a classic Lepanto… and France has all sorts of options… Should be an interesting Fall – Due Tuesday!  July 12, 3pm Central.  There is one retreat but I just moved Turk A Con-Bul since it’s really the only option.


 


Enjoy,


-mike


 


Austria:


F Albania - Greece (*Bounce*)


A Budapest - Serbia


A Serbia - Bulgaria


A Trieste Hold


 


England:


A Belgium Supports A Burgundy - Ruhr


F Edinburgh - North Sea


A London Hold


F North Sea - Helgoland Bight


F Norway - Skagerrak (*Bounce*)


 


France:


A Burgundy - Ruhr


A Paris - Picardy


F Portugal - Mid-Atlantic Ocean


A Spain - Gascony


 


Germany:


A Berlin - Kiel (*Fails*)


F Denmark - Skagerrak (*Bounce*)


A Holland - Ruhr (*Bounce*)


A Kiel - Denmark (*Fails*)


A Munich - Ruhr (*Bounce*)


 


Italy:


F Ionian Sea - Eastern Mediterranean


F Naples - Ionian Sea


A Tunis Hold


A Venice Hold


 


Russia:


A Galicia - Ukraine


A Moscow - Sevastopol


A Rumania Supports A Serbia - Bulgaria


F Sevastopol - Armenia


F St Petersburg(sc) - Gulf of Bothnia


F Sweden - Baltic Sea


 


Turkey:


F Ankara - Black Sea


A Armenia - Syria


A Bulgaria - Greece (*Dislodged*)


F Constantinople - Aegean Sea


 
DC 373: S1908 Adjudication - Caesar's Birthday Nex... - AceRimmer   (Jul 06, 2011, 4:24 pm)
???It is only hubris if I fail???
- G. J. Caesar

If our muse for this game is to be believed, Austria is full of hubris. Though, of course, it is better to fail than to lose outright, and Austria is far from losing in spite of his besieged current circumstances. Still, season after season, he piles up those *Fail* flags. It???s sheer hubris.

The great drama of this season is the English capture (and disbanding) of Warsaw. In exchange, he leaves Moscow open to the Sevastopudlians (surely, it???s like Liverpool ??? Liverpudlians, right?). When one puts those two together, one wonders whether Russia may have been better served by A Sev S A Ukr-Mos rather than the other way around ??? thus leaving open a retreat to Ukraine.

In the South, the Ionian and Tyrrhenian Seas are impassible, but France zigs while Russia zags, and that French fleet in Aegean Sea seems unpleasant.

Elsewhere, there are various EFG movements into places like Munich, Ruhr, Helgoland Bight, St. Petersburg, Baltic Sea, and the Channel. I leave it for you to sort out.

There are no retreats, as the only dislodged unit must disband. Therefore, Fall 1908 will be next Wednesday on July 13, which I believe is Julius Caesar???s 2,110th birthday (though it may also be July 12). Let???s celebrate it right.

Spring 1908 Adjudication

Austria:
a tyr-mun (*Fails*)
a vie-tyr (*Fails*)
a boh-sil (*Fails*)
a gal s RUSSIAN a war
f tri-allb
a gre s f tri-alb
f ion s f nap-tys (*Cut*)
f nap-tys (*Fails*)

England:
F Bar C Edi - StP
F Bel - Eng
F BOT - Bal
A Edi - StP
A LVN S Mos - War
A Mos - War
F NRG C Edi - StP
A Pru S Mos ??? War

France:
Fleet Eastern Mediterranean Move To Aegean Sea
Fleet Tyrhennian Sea Support Fleet Tunis move to Ionian Sea (*Cut*)
Fleet Tunis move to Ionian Sea (*Fails*)
Fleet Western Med Support Fleet Tyrhennian Sea
Army Burgundy Support German Army Ruhr To Munich
Army Marseilles Move To Piedmont (*Fails*)
Army Holland Move To Ruhr

Germany:
F Denmark - Helgoland Bight
A Ruhr - Munich
A Berlin support A Silesia
A Silesia support English Army Moscow to Warsaw (*Cut*)

Italy:
F Rom Supports Austrian F Nap to Tys
A Pie Holds
A Tus Supports A Pie

Russia:
War supports Sev into Mos (*Disbanded*)
Ukr supports Sev into Mos
Sev Into Mos
Aeg to Smy

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DC 373: S1908 Adjudication - Caesar's Birthday Next Week (dc373) dknemeyer Jul 06, 10:15 pm
Hi Adam,
I'm going to propose a 3-way England-France-Germany draw. Can that be voted on in the fall?
Dirk

On Jul 6, 2011, at 5:24 PM, Adam Martin-Schwarze wrote:
"It is only hubris if I fail"
- G. J. Caesar

If our muse for this game is to be believed, Austria is full of hubris. Though, of course, it is better to fail than to lose outright, and Austria is far from losing in spite of his besieged current circumstances. Still, season after season, he piles up those *Fail* flags. It's sheer hubris.

The great drama of this season is the English capture (and disbanding) of Warsaw. In exchange, he leaves Moscow open to the Sevastopudlians (surely, it's like Liverpool - Liverpudlians, right?). When one puts those two together, one wonders whether Russia may have been better served by A Sev S A Ukr-Mos rather than the other way around - thus leaving open a retreat to Ukraine.

In the South, the Ionian and Tyrrhenian Seas are impassible, but France zigs while Russia zags, and that French fleet in Aegean Sea seems unpleasant.

Elsewhere, there are various EFG movements into places like Munich, Ruhr, Helgoland Bight, St. Petersburg, Baltic Sea, and the Channel. I leave it for you to sort out.

There are no retreats, as the only dislodged unit must disband. Therefore, Fall 1908 will be next Wednesday on July 13, which I believe is Julius Caesar's 2,110th birthday (though it may also be July 12). Let's celebrate it right.

Spring 1908 Adjudication

Austria:
a tyr-mun (*Fails*)
a vie-tyr (*Fails*)
a boh-sil (*Fails*)
a gal s RUSSIAN a war
f tri-allb
a gre s f tri-alb
f ion s f nap-tys (*Cut*)
f nap-tys (*Fails*)

England:
F Bar C Edi - StP
F Bel - Eng
F BOT - Bal
A Edi - StP
A LVN S Mos - War
A Mos - War
F NRG C Edi - StP
A Pru S Mos - War

France:
Fleet Eastern Mediterranean Move To Aegean Sea
Fleet Tyrhennian Sea Support Fleet Tunis move to Ionian Sea (*Cut*)
Fleet Tunis move to Ionian Sea (*Fails*)
Fleet Western Med Support Fleet Tyrhennian Sea
Army Burgundy Support German Army Ruhr To Munich
Army Marseilles Move To Piedmont (*Fails*)
Army Holland Move To Ruhr

Germany:
F Denmark - Helgoland Bight
A Ruhr - Munich
A Berlin support A Silesia
A Silesia support English Army Moscow to Warsaw (*Cut*)

Italy:
F Rom Supports Austrian F Nap to Tys
A Pie Holds
A Tus Supports A Pie

Russia:
War supports Sev into Mos (*Disbanded*)
Ukr supports Sev into Mos
Sev Into Mos
Aeg to Smy
DC 373: S1908 Adjudication - Caesar's Birthday Next Week (dc373) FlapJack Jul 06, 11:10 pm
DC 373: S1908 Adjudication - Caesar's Birthday Next Week (dc373) AceRimmer Jul 07, 08:52 am
Point rendered moot, but yes, I would've allowed it, since you gave quite a bit of advanced notice.

--- On Wed, 7/6/11, Jack McHugh <jwmchughjr(at)gmail.com> wrote:


From: Jack McHugh <jwmchughjr(at)gmail.com>
Subject: Re: DC 373: S1908 Adjudication - Caesar's Birthday Next Week
To: "Dirk Knemeyer" <dirk(at)knemeyer.com>
Cc: "Adam Martin-Schwarze" <smegdwarf(at)yahoo.com>, "Tom Barrows" <tom.barrows(at)gmail.com>, "Jack Cope" <jackcope(at)btinternet.com>, "DC 373" <dc373(at)diplomaticcorp.com>, "Mark Mizak" <archimedeslives(at)yahoo.com>, "Matt O',Donnell" <gizmo8204(at)yahoo.com>, "Stephen Osellame" <blomidonpark(at)yahoo.ca>
Date: Wednesday, July 6, 2011, 11:10 PM


i'll vote no to that draw right now








A dog owns nothing, yet is seldom dissatisfied.








On Wed, Jul 6, 2011 at 11:15 PM, Dirk Knemeyer <dirk(at)knemeyer.com> wrote:


Hi Adam,



I'm going to propose a 3-way England-France-Germany draw. Can that be voted on in the fall?



Dirk









On Jul 6, 2011, at 5:24 PM, Adam Martin-Schwarze wrote:



> ???It is only hubris if I fail???

> - G. J. Caesar

>

> If our muse for this game is to be believed, Austria is full of hubris.  Though, of course, it is better to fail than to lose outright, and Austria is far from losing in spite of his besieged current circumstances.  Still, season after season, he piles up those *Fail* flags.  It???s sheer hubris.


>

> The great drama of this season is the English capture (and disbanding) of Warsaw.  In exchange, he leaves Moscow open to the Sevastopudlians (surely, it???s like Liverpool ??? Liverpudlians, right?).  When one puts those two together, one wonders whether Russia may have been better served by A Sev S A Ukr-Mos rather than the other way around ??? thus leaving open a retreat to Ukraine.


>

> In the South, the Ionian and Tyrrhenian Seas are impassible, but France zigs while Russia zags, and that French fleet in Aegean Sea seems unpleasant.

>

> Elsewhere, there are various EFG movements into places like Munich, Ruhr, Helgoland Bight, St. Petersburg, Baltic Sea, and the Channel.  I leave it for you to sort out.

>

> There are no retreats, as the only dislodged unit must disband.  Therefore, Fall 1908 will be next Wednesday on July 13, which I believe is Julius Caesar???s 2,110th birthday (though it may also be July 12).  Let???s celebrate it right.


>

> Spring 1908 Adjudication

>

> Austria:

> a tyr-mun (*Fails*)

> a vie-tyr (*Fails*)

> a boh-sil (*Fails*)

> a gal s RUSSIAN a war

> f tri-allb

> a gre s f tri-alb

> f ion s f nap-tys (*Cut*)

> f nap-tys (*Fails*)

>

> England:

> F Bar C Edi - StP

> F Bel - Eng

> F BOT - Bal

> A Edi - StP

> A LVN S Mos - War

> A Mos - War

> F NRG C Edi - StP

> A Pru S Mos ??? War

>

> France:

> Fleet Eastern Mediterranean Move To Aegean Sea

> Fleet Tyrhennian Sea Support Fleet Tunis move to Ionian Sea (*Cut*)

> Fleet Tunis move to Ionian Sea (*Fails*)

> Fleet Western Med Support Fleet Tyrhennian Sea

> Army Burgundy Support German Army Ruhr To Munich

> Army Marseilles Move To Piedmont (*Fails*)

> Army Holland Move To Ruhr

>

> Germany:

> F Denmark - Helgoland Bight

> A Ruhr - Munich

> A Berlin support A Silesia

> A Silesia support English Army Moscow to Warsaw (*Cut*)

>

> Italy:

> F Rom Supports Austrian F Nap to Tys

> A Pie Holds

> A Tus Supports A Pie

>

> Russia:

> War supports Sev into Mos (*Disbanded*)

> Ukr supports Sev into Mos

> Sev Into Mos



> Aeg to Smy<DC 373.dpy><current.GIF><DC 373 S1908.GIF>
DC 373: S1908 Adjudication - Caesar's Birthday Next Week (dc373) archimedes Jul 10, 06:50 am
Gentlemen, I am back from summer camp.  Catching up on the emails.  Must go to fix a buddy's air conditioner in a bit.  Will try to get back with you later today.  Though initial thoughts is it looks good.


 


mark


 



 







From: Dirk Knemeyer <dirk(at)knemeyer.com>
To: Adam Martin-Schwarze <smegdwarf(at)yahoo.com>
Cc: Tom Barrows <tom.barrows(at)gmail.com>; Jack Cope <jackcope(at)btinternet.com>; DC 373 <dc373(at)diplomaticcorp.com>; Jack McHugh <jwmchughjr(at)gmail.com>; Mark Mizak <archimedeslives(at)yahoo.com>; "Matt O&#39;Donnell" <gizmo8204(at)yahoo.com>; Stephen Osellame <blomidonpark(at)yahoo.ca>
Sent: Wed, July 6, 2011 11:15:38 PM
Subject: Re: DC 373: S1908 Adjudication - Caesar's Birthday Next Week

Hi Adam,

I'm going to propose a 3-way England-France-Germany draw. Can that be voted on in the fall?

Dirk


On Jul 6, 2011, at 5:24 PM, Adam Martin-Schwarze
wrote:

> ???It is only hubris if I fail???
> - G. J. Caesar
>
> If our muse for this game is to be believed, Austria is full of hubris.  Though, of course, it is better to fail than to lose outright, and Austria is far from losing in spite of his besieged current circumstances.  Still, season after season, he piles up those *Fail* flags.  It???s sheer hubris.
>
> The great drama of this season is the English capture (and disbanding) of Warsaw.  In exchange, he leaves Moscow open to the Sevastopudlians (surely, it???s like Liverpool ??? Liverpudlians, right?).  When one puts those two together, one wonders whether Russia may have been better served by A Sev S A Ukr-Mos rather than the other way around ??? thus leaving open a retreat to Ukraine.
>
> In the South, the Ionian and Tyrrhenian Seas are impassible, but France zigs while Russia zags, and that French fleet in Aegean
Sea seems unpleasant.
>
> Elsewhere, there are various EFG movements into places like Munich, Ruhr, Helgoland Bight, St. Petersburg, Baltic Sea, and the Channel.  I leave it for you to sort out.
>
> There are no retreats, as the only dislodged unit must disband.  Therefore, Fall 1908 will be next Wednesday on July 13, which I believe is Julius Caesar???s 2,110th birthday (though it may also be July 12).  Let???s celebrate it right.
>
> Spring 1908 Adjudication   
>
> Austria:
> a tyr-mun (*Fails*)
> a vie-tyr (*Fails*)
> a boh-sil (*Fails*)
> a gal s RUSSIAN a war
> f tri-allb
> a gre s f tri-alb
> f ion s f nap-tys (*Cut*)
> f nap-tys (*Fails*)
>
> England:
> F Bar C Edi - StP
> F Bel - Eng
> F BOT - Bal
> A Edi - StP
> A LVN S Mos - War
> A Mos - War
> F NRG C Edi -
StP
> A Pru S Mos ??? War
>
> France:
> Fleet Eastern Mediterranean Move To Aegean Sea
> Fleet Tyrhennian Sea Support Fleet Tunis move to Ionian Sea (*Cut*)
> Fleet Tunis move to Ionian Sea (*Fails*)
> Fleet Western Med Support Fleet Tyrhennian Sea
> Army Burgundy Support German Army Ruhr To Munich
> Army Marseilles Move To Piedmont (*Fails*)
> Army Holland Move To Ruhr
>
> Germany:
> F Denmark - Helgoland Bight
> A Ruhr - Munich
> A Berlin support A Silesia
> A Silesia support English Army Moscow to Warsaw (*Cut*)
>
> Italy:
> F Rom Supports Austrian F Nap to Tys
> A Pie Holds
> A Tus Supports A Pie
>
> Russia:
> War supports Sev into Mos (*Disbanded*)
> Ukr supports Sev into Mos
> Sev Into Mos
> Aeg to Smy<DC 373.dpy><current.GIF><DC 373
S1908.GIF>
DC372 - Fall 1906 - Viper   (Jul 06, 2011, 3:11 pm)
...and the map.


On Wed, Jul 6, 2011 at 3:05 PM, Michael Penner <mvpenner(at)gmail.com> wrote:


Austria:
F Smyrna Holds
A Greece Supports A Bulgaria
A Bulgaria Supports A Greece
A Serbia - Albania
A Trieste - Venice (*dislodged*)
A Vienna - Tyrolia (*fails*)
A Bohemia - Munich (*fails*)

England:

A Norway - Sweden
F Denmark Supports A Norway - Sweden
F Norwegian Sea - Norway
F Barents Sea - St. Petersburg (nc) (*fails*)
F Belgium Supports A Kiel (*invalid*)
F Helgoland Bight Supports A Kiel (*ordered to move*)


France:
F Western Mediterranean - Tyrrhenian Sea

F Mid-Atlantic Ocean Holds
F North Sea - Supports F Norwegian Sea - Norway
A Munich Supports A Kiel - Berlin (*cut*)
A Burgundy Supports A Munich

Germany:
A Kiel - Berlin (*fails*)
A Ruhr Supports A Munich


Italy:
A Venice - Trieste

A Tyrolia Supports A Venice - Trieste (*cut*)
F Adriatic Sea Supports A Venice - Trieste
F Aegean Sea Holds
F Ionian Sea Supports F Aegean Sea

Russia:
A Sevastopol - Moscow
A St. Petersburg - Norway (*fails*)


A Livonia - St. Petersburg (*fails*)
F Sweden Supports A St. Petersburg - Norway (*dislodged*)
A Berlin Supports A Silesia - Munich (*cut*)
A Silesia - Munich (*fails*)
A Armenia Holds
F Constantinople - Aegean Sea (*fails*)


Retreats:
Austria's A Trieste may retreat to Budapest, Serbia, or OTB.
Russia's F Sweden may retreat to Skagarrak, Baltic Sea, Gulf of Bothnia, Finland, or OTB.

Next Deadline:
Autumn 1906 retreats are due on Friday, July 8, at 1pm CDT.

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DC372 - Fall 1906 - Viper   (Jul 06, 2011, 3:05 pm)
Austria:
F Smyrna Holds
A Greece Supports A Bulgaria
A Bulgaria Supports A Greece
A Serbia - Albania
A Trieste - Venice (*dislodged*)
A Vienna - Tyrolia (*fails*)
A Bohemia - Munich (*fails*)

England:

A Norway - Sweden
F Denmark Supports A Norway - Sweden
F Norwegian Sea - Norway
F Barents Sea - St. Petersburg (nc) (*fails*)
F Belgium Supports A Kiel (*invalid*)
F Helgoland Bight Supports A Kiel (*ordered to move*)


France:
F Western Mediterranean - Tyrrhenian Sea

F Mid-Atlantic Ocean Holds
F North Sea - Supports F Norwegian Sea - Norway
A Munich Supports A Kiel - Berlin (*cut*)
A Burgundy Supports A Munich

Germany:
A Kiel - Berlin (*fails*)
A Ruhr Supports A Munich


Italy:
A Venice - Trieste

A Tyrolia Supports A Venice - Trieste (*cut*)
F Adriatic Sea Supports A Venice - Trieste
F Aegean Sea Holds
F Ionian Sea Supports F Aegean Sea

Russia:
A Sevastopol - Moscow
A St. Petersburg - Norway (*fails*)

A Livonia - St. Petersburg (*fails*)
F Sweden Supports A St. Petersburg - Norway (*dislodged*)
A Berlin Supports A Silesia - Munich (*cut*)
A Silesia - Munich (*fails*)
A Armenia Holds
F Constantinople - Aegean Sea (*fails*)


Retreats:
Austria's A Trieste may retreat to Budapest, Serbia, or OTB.
Russia's F Sweden may retreat to Skagarrak, Baltic Sea, Gulf of Bothnia, Finland, or OTB.

Next Deadline:
Autumn 1906 retreats are due on Friday, July 8, at 1pm CDT.

[Reply]

DC372 - Fall 1906 (dc372) Viper Jul 06, 03:11 pm
...and the map.


On Wed, Jul 6, 2011 at 3:05 PM, Michael Penner <mvpenner(at)gmail.com> wrote:


Austria:
F Smyrna Holds
A Greece Supports A Bulgaria
A Bulgaria Supports A Greece
A Serbia - Albania
A Trieste - Venice (*dislodged*)
A Vienna - Tyrolia (*fails*)
A Bohemia - Munich (*fails*)

England:

A Norway - Sweden
F Denmark Supports A Norway - Sweden
F Norwegian Sea - Norway
F Barents Sea - St. Petersburg (nc) (*fails*)
F Belgium Supports A Kiel (*invalid*)
F Helgoland Bight Supports A Kiel (*ordered to move*)


France:
F Western Mediterranean - Tyrrhenian Sea

F Mid-Atlantic Ocean Holds
F North Sea - Supports F Norwegian Sea - Norway
A Munich Supports A Kiel - Berlin (*cut*)
A Burgundy Supports A Munich

Germany:
A Kiel - Berlin (*fails*)
A Ruhr Supports A Munich


Italy:
A Venice - Trieste

A Tyrolia Supports A Venice - Trieste (*cut*)
F Adriatic Sea Supports A Venice - Trieste
F Aegean Sea Holds
F Ionian Sea Supports F Aegean Sea

Russia:
A Sevastopol - Moscow
A St. Petersburg - Norway (*fails*)


A Livonia - St. Petersburg (*fails*)
F Sweden Supports A St. Petersburg - Norway (*dislodged*)
A Berlin Supports A Silesia - Munich (*cut*)
A Silesia - Munich (*fails*)
A Armenia Holds
F Constantinople - Aegean Sea (*fails*)


Retreats:
Austria's A Trieste may retreat to Budapest, Serbia, or OTB.
Russia's F Sweden may retreat to Skagarrak, Baltic Sea, Gulf of Bothnia, Finland, or OTB.

Next Deadline:
Autumn 1906 retreats are due on Friday, July 8, at 1pm CDT.
DC372 - Fall 1906 (dc372) Viper Jul 07, 01:21 am
DC372 - Back - Viper   (Jul 06, 2011, 2:52 pm)

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DC 338 Spring 2019 Results - MrBallgame   (Jul 06, 2011, 12:04 pm)
Confirming England F retreats to TYS.  Thanks, Derek.








From: Derek eyler <derekthefeared2(at)yahoo.com>
To: dc338(at)diplomaticcorp.com
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Sent: Tue, July 5, 2011 11:18:56 PM
Subject: DC 338 Spring 2019 Results









Here are the spring 2019 results.  It has been a long war but possibly it is finally drawing to a close. 


 


The draw fails although another DIAS is proposed.  Please vote with your fall orders.


 


We will set a slightly longer deadline for next time due to a player vacation. 


 


Fall 2019 will be due next Wednesday July 13th at 4:00 PM US Eastern time.


 


Also importantly there is one retreat.  F Ion can retreat to TYS, ALB, EAST or OTB.  Please let us know on the retreat as soon as you can England.  (shown in TYS but certainly England may want to change)



Austria:
F Aegean Sea Supports F Greece - Ionian Sea
A Ankara Hold
A Apulia Supports A Rome - Naples
A Bulgaria - Constantinople
F Greece - Ionian Sea
A Moscow Supports A Warsaw
A Munich Supports A Silesia (*Disbanded*)
A Rome - Naples
A Rumania Supports A Sevastopol (*Cut*)
A Sevastopol Supports A Moscow
A Silesia Supports A Munich (*Cut*)
F Trieste - Adriatic Sea
A Tyrolia Supports A Munich
A Venice - Rome
A Vienna - Bohemia
A Warsaw Supports A Silesia


England:
F Baltic Sea Supports A St Petersburg - Livonia
A Berlin Supports A Ruhr - Munich
F Black Sea - Rumania (*Fails*)
A Burgundy Supports A Ruhr - Munich
F English Channel Convoys A London - Belgium
A Finland - St Petersburg
F Ionian Sea - Naples (*Dislodged*)
F Kiel Supports A Berlin
F Liverpool - Irish Sea
A London - Belgium
F Marseilles - Gulf of Lyon
F Mid-Atlantic Ocean - Western Mediterranean
A Prussia - Silesia (*Fails*)
A Ruhr - Munich
A Spain - Marseilles
A St Petersburg - Livonia
A Tunis - North Africa


France:
F Western Mediterranean - Tunis


 

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