| DC 373: Your enemies hate you; you are surrounded... - AceRimmer (Apr 01, 2011, 9:55 am) |
???Between the acting of a dreadful thing
And the first motion, all the interim is
Like a phantasma or a hideous dream;
The genius and the mortal instruments
Are then in council, and the state of man,
Like to a little kingdom, suffers then
The nature of an insurrection.???
- The Tragedy of Julius Caesar
To me, Spring 1902 is always a tense, fraught moment. Oftentimes, it is the first season when players take overt action (though some remain covert). I spend days in negotiations and cross-negotiations??? with the upshot that, ultimately, I am lying to somebody ??? and not just to myself. Then, when my orders are in, I sit on my hands (so as not to chew my fingernails) and nervously await the adjudication.
Well, this is the adjudication.
I should note now that I have seen many players get shafted in 1902, only to see them rise like a Phoenix later. (Indeed, in the last game I GM???d, the Russian was attacked by the Austrian ??? there was even an Austrian army in Ukraine after 1902 ??? but in the end, the Austrian was eliminated, and the Russian soloed. Then again, the Brit got tricked by a German-Russian plot, and he never recovered, eking out a mere survival at the end).
Two units get dislodged. But I don???t need any retreat orders. The German army dislodged from Denmark has but one retreat option and thus auto-retreats to Kiel (per my house rules). Matt, if you would prefer to disband, let me know within 24 hours. Meanwhile, the Turkish army in Bulgaria has nowhere to run. For that matter, it has nowhere to hide. It disbands.
Fall 1902 orders will be due next Thursday, April 7, at 10:00 a.m. CST (15:00 GMT).
S1902 Adjudication
Austria:
a vie-gal
a bud s a rum
a tri h
a ser-bul
f gre-s a ser-bul
England:
F NWY S F NTH
A YOR holds
F NTH S A SWE -> DEN
F EDI S F NTH
France:
Fleet Portugal Move To Mid Atlantic Ocean
Fleet Brest Move To Le Manche (The English Channel)
Army Spain Move To Gascony
Army Burgundy Move To Belgium (*Bounce*)
Army Marseilles Move To Burgundy (*Fails*)
Germany:
F Berlin - Baltic Sea (*Bounce*)
A Denmark holds (*Dislodged*)
F Kiel - Helgoland Bight
F Holland S F Kiel - Helgoland Bight
A Ruhr ??? Belgium (*Bounce*)
Italy:
F ION-EMD
F NAP-ION
All armies hold
Russia:
Sev hold
Mos Sup Sev hold
War to Ukr
Rum Sup Ser to Bul
Bot to Bal (*Bounce*)
Swe to Den
Turkey:
Army from Armenia to Sevastopol (*Fails*)
Fleet from Black Sea support Army from Armenia to Sevastopol
Army from Bulgaria to Romania (*Disbanded*)
Army from Constantinople to Bulgaria (*Fails*)[Reply] |
| dc374 Winter '01 Results - notasb (Apr 01, 2011, 8:04 am) |
Board:
Austria Matthew ODonnell
England Alex Phillips
France Warren Fleming
Germany Hugh Polley
Italy Mark Weiskircher
Russia Jeremiah Lee
Turkey Andrew Cassese
Map:
http://home.comcast.net/~dawench/374/37401Winter.gif
Deadline:
Spring '02 is due Monday April 4th 8 AM CDST (GMT -5) 1300 GMT
Orders and Results:
Builds:
England:
Build F Edinburgh
France:
Build F Marseilles
Build waived
Germany:
Build A Munich
Build F Kiel
Build A Berlin
Russia:
Build A Warsaw
Build A St Petersburg
Turkey:
Build F Constantinople
Supply Center and Unit Count:
Austria: 3 / 3
England: 4 / 4
France: 5 / 4
Germany: 6 / 6
Italy: 3 / 3
Russia: 6 / 6
Turkey: 4 / 4
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"We are not retreating-we are advancing in another direction."
- General Douglas MacArthur[Reply] |
| dc374 Winter '01 Results (Winter Blitz) notasb Jun 03, 08:06 am |
Board:
Austria Matthew ODonnell - eliminated '06
England Alex Phillips
France Warren Fleming
Germany Hugh Polley - eliminated '08
Italy Mark Weiskircher - eliminated '04
Russia Jeremiah Lee
Turkey Andrew Cassese
Deadline:
Spring '11 is due Minday June 6th 8 AM CDST (GMT -5) 1300 GMT
Orders and Results:
Retreats:
France:
disband A Venice
Turkey:
F Spain(nc) - Gascony
A Trieste - Albania
Builds:
England:
Build A Edinburgh
Turkey:
Build A Smyrna
Build A Ankara
Disbands:
France:
Remove A Portugal
Supply Center and Unit Count:
Austria: 0 / 0
England: 9 / 9
France: 5 / 5
Germany: 0 / 0
Italy: 0 / 0
Russia: 8 / 8
Turkey: 12 / 12
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"An ideal form of government is democracy tempered with assassination." -Voltaire |
| DC368 Winter 1904 - stendaswargames (Apr 01, 2011, 2:34 am) |
Spring 1905 due Tuesday 5 April 24:00 GMT
Austria: Remove A Albania
England: Build A London
Germany: Remove A Galicia
Italy: Build F Naples
Dorian Love
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Roedean School (SA)
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From: Dorian Love
Sent: Wednesday, March 30, 2011 10:34 AM
To: Dorian Love; 'Blueraider0(at)gmail.com'; 'hf_rainer(at)hotmail.com'; 'gonzlena(at)gmail.com'; 'rgall.dip(at)btinternet.com'; 'jeffcole854(at)gmail.com'; 'Nadrojtayl(at)hotmail.com'; 'RICH3520(at)AOL.COM'; 'dc368(at)diplomaticcorp.com'; 'nick.s.powell(at)gmail.com'
Subject: RE: DC368 Autumn 1904
Turkey: F Ionian Sea - Aegean Sea (marked final)
Builds due Thursday 31 March 24:00 GMT
We say a fond goodbye to Austria and Germany! Thanks for playing guys. EOGs most welcome!
Adjustments:
Austria: Supp 0 Unit 1 Remove 1
England: Supp 9 Unit 8 Build 1
France: Supp 8 Unit 8 Build 0
Germany: Supp 0 Unit 1 Remove 1
Italy: Supp 7 Unit 5 Build 1
Russia: Supp 5 Unit 5 Build 0
Turkey: Supp 5 Unit 5 Build 0
Ownership:
England: Berlin, Denmark, Edinburgh, Kiel, Liverpool, London,
Norway, St Petersburg, Sweden.
France: Belgium, Brest, Holland, Marseilles, Munich, Paris,
Portugal, Spain.
Italy: Naples, Rome, Serbia, Trieste, Tunis, Venice, Vienna.
Russia: Budapest, Moscow, Rumania, Sevastopol, Warsaw.
Turkey: Ankara, Bulgaria, Constantinople, Greece, Smyrna.
Dorian Love
ICT Teacher
Roedean School (SA)
Tel: +27 (011) 647-3200
Fax: + 27 (086) 589-0231
From: Dorian Love
Sent: Wednesday, March 30, 2011 9:38 AM
To: Dorian Love; 'Blueraider0(at)gmail.com'; 'hf_rainer(at)hotmail.com'; 'gonzlena(at)gmail.com'; 'rgall.dip(at)btinternet.com'; 'jeffcole854(at)gmail.com'; 'Nadrojtayl(at)hotmail.com'; 'RICH3520(at)AOL.COM'; 'dc368(at)diplomaticcorp.com'; 'nick.s.powell(at)gmail.com'
Subject: RE: DC368 Fall 1904
Turkish F Ionian Sea can retreat to Apulia or Adriatic Sea or Aegean Sea or Eastern Mediterranean.
Retreats due Wednesday 30 March 24:00 GMT or sooner if marked final.
Builds due Thursday 31 March 24:00 GMT.
Austria NMRs again, and for the last time!
Austria:
A Albania Hold
England:
F Barents Sea Supports A Norway - St Petersburg (*Fails*)
F Denmark - Baltic Sea
A Kiel - Berlin
A London - Denmark
F North Sea Convoys A London - Denmark
A Norway - St Petersburg (*Fails*)
A St Petersburg - Livonia (*Bounce*)
A Sweden Hold
France:
A Burgundy - Munich
F Gulf of Lyon Supports F Tuscany - Tyrrhenian Sea
F Holland Hold
F Mid-Atlantic Ocean - Spain(sc)
A Munich - Bohemia
A Piedmont - Venice (*Fails*)
A Ruhr Hold
F Tuscany - Tyrrhenian Sea
Germany:
A Galicia - Vienna (*Bounce*)
Italy:
F Naples - Ionian Sea
F Rome Hold
A Serbia Hold
F Tunis Supports F Naples - Ionian Sea
A Venice Hold
Russia:
F Black Sea - Rumania
A Budapest - Vienna (*Bounce*)
F Gulf of Bothnia - Livonia (*Bounce*)
A Moscow - Livonia (*Bounce*)
A Rumania - Ukraine
Turkey:
F Aegean Sea - Constantinople
A Bulgaria Supports A Greece
F Constantinople - Ankara
A Greece Supports A Bulgaria
F Ionian Sea Supports F Naples - Tyrrhenian Sea (*Dislodged*)
Dorian Love
ICT Teacher
Roedean School (SA)
Tel: +27 (011) 647-3200
Fax: + 27 (086) 589-0231
From: Dorian Love
Sent: Tuesday, March 29, 2011 9:18 AM
To: Dorian Love; 'Blueraider0(at)gmail.com'; 'hf_rainer(at)hotmail.com'; 'gonzlena(at)gmail.com'; 'rgall.dip(at)btinternet.com'; 'jeffcole854(at)gmail.com'; 'Nadrojtayl(at)hotmail.com'; 'RICH3520(at)AOL.COM'; 'dc368(at)diplomaticcorp.com'; 'nick.s.powell(at)gmail.com'
Subject: RE: DC368 Fall 1904
Fall 1904 due Tuesday 29 March 24:00 GMT
If I have not receipted your orders I have not received them
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| DC377; Fall 1901 Results - dipknight (Mar 31, 2011, 8:28 pm) |
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| DC377; Spring 1901 Results - dipknight (Mar 31, 2011, 8:27 pm) |
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| DC376 WB 11 Rd 2 - Fall 1901 Results - Corrino (Mar 31, 2011, 6:43 pm) |
Hi Players,
Today's surprising headline reads: Much Ado About Nothing or What War? I Don't See no War.
To what do we owe such an unusual headline in these supposedly turbulent times? Merely the fact that over the course of the Fall campaign the dance of swords was performed without a single instance of actual conflict between any of the armored units! That's no dislodgements, no bounces, no contact of any kind.
Did you guys choreograph this, or what? When the music stopped, all 12 neutral SC had been claimed.
Additional notes:
Austria and Italy raise eyebrows amongst interested observers to demonstrate the heretofore unknown Bulgarian
Lepanto.
There are four different colored armies in the Balkans. That's pretty, and pretty unusual.
There is only one fleet in the water. Can you guess which one? Of course you can.
Press:
New Play Season announced in Rome
A new farce is to be presented in Roma this Christmas season, fun for many years and children of all ages:
Le Panto (or "Is it Really?"
thrill to the dastardly Turkish Grand Vizier Ben Ghazi and his mustachios
boo the devilish cossack dancing of Tzar Nathan the glutonous (see him eat whole provinces at a single sitting!)
cheer the austro-hungarian two-facing monarch Mike the apparently amiable (does he hold the secret lock, and who holds the Key?)
applaud the death-defying antics of Nigelo as he stretches to grasp two trapezes at once
listen to the soothing lullabies of Jacques the parisian balladeer and
his guitar troop
fear the mighty german Hamlet: to bounce or not to bounce, that is the danish fleet's question
and
admire the english mime artists led by Captain Birdseye and the
strength with which they carry whole armies over the seas in search of
schools of fish fingers
7 villains... no murders yet
RETREATS: None
ADJUSTMENTS: All players have units to build. See table below for numbers.
NEXT DEADLINE: Winter adjustments are due Friday, April 1, at 18:00 Eastern time. This is not a joke.
Cheers,
Chris
Orders as resolved. Please notify the GM right away if you spot an error.
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Austria:
F Albania - Trieste
A Serbia - Bulgaria
A Vienna Supports F Albania - Trieste
England:
F North Sea Convoys A Yorkshire - Belgium
F Norwegian Sea - Norway
A Yorkshire -
Belgium
France:
A Burgundy Supports A Yorkshire - Belgium
F Mid-Atlantic Ocean - Spain(sc)
A Spain - Portugal
Germany:
F Denmark Hold
A Kiel - Holland
A Ruhr - Munich
Italy:
F Ionian Sea - Tunis
A Trieste - Serbia
A Venice - Tyrolia
Russia:
F Gulf of Bothnia - Sweden
F Sevastopol Supports A Ukraine - Rumania
A Ukraine - Rumania
A Warsaw - Galicia
Turkey:
F Ankara - Constantinople
A Bulgaria - Greece
A Constantinople - Smyrna
==============================================
Ownership:
Austria: Budapest, Bulgaria, Trieste, Vienna.
England: Belgium, Edinburgh, Liverpool, London, Norway.
France: Brest, Marseilles, Paris, Portugal, Spain.
Germany: Berlin, Denmark, Holland, Kiel, Munich.
Italy: Naples, Rome, Serbia, Tunis, Venice.
Russia: Moscow,
Rumania, Sevastopol, St Petersburg, Sweden, Warsaw.
Turkey: Ankara, Constantinople, Greece, Smyrna.
Adjustments:
Austria: Supp 4 Unit 3 Build 1
England: Supp 5 Unit 3 Build 2
France: Supp 5 Unit 3 Build 2
Germany: Supp 5 Unit 3 Build 2
Italy: Supp 5 Unit 3 Build 2
Russia: Supp 6 Unit 4 Build 2
Turkey: Supp 4 Unit 3 Build 1[Reply] |
| DC375 WB F01 ADJS FRI - vegas_iwish (Mar 31, 2011, 6:05 pm) |
http://diplomaticcorp.com/game_page.php?game_id=dc375
Austria:
F Albania - Greece
A Serbia Supports F Albania - Greece
A Vienna - Galicia (*Bounce*)
England:
F North Sea Convoys A Yorkshire - Belgium
F Norwegian Sea - Norway
A Yorkshire - Belgium
France:
A Marseilles Supports A Picardy - Burgundy (*Cut*)
F Mid-Atlantic Ocean - Spain(sc)
A Picardy - Burgundy
Germany:
F Denmark - Sweden (*Bounce*)
A Kiel - Holland
A Munich - Ruhr
Italy:
A Piedmont - Marseilles (*Fails*)
A Rome - Tuscany
F Tyrrhenian Sea - Tunis
Russia:
F Gulf of Bothnia - Sweden (*Bounce*)
F Sevastopol Supports A Ukraine - Rumania
A Ukraine - Rumania
A Warsaw - Galicia (*Bounce*)
Turkey:
F Ankara - Black Sea
A Bulgaria - Rumania (*Fails*)
A Constantinople - Bulgaria (*Fails*)
Adjustments:
Austria: Supp 5 Unit 3 Build 2
England: Supp 5 Unit 3 Build 2
France: Supp 4 Unit 3 Build 1
Germany: Supp 5 Unit 3 Build 2
Italy: Supp 4 Unit 3 Build 1
Russia: Supp 5 Unit 4 Build 1
Turkey: Supp 4 Unit 3 Build 1[Reply] |
| dc380 fall 1901 results! - coryfucius (Mar 31, 2011, 5:35 pm) |
Unfortunately, we have two NMRs this turn, as both Germany and Russia fail to submit orders. As a result, they both fail to gain any centers this year.
England takes advantage of the absent Kaiser, convoying to Denmark. France picks up Spain, while successfully defending Marseilles against an Italian advance. Italy convoys to Tunis. Meanwhile in the Balkans, Austria and Turkey pick up 2 centers apiece.
Winter 1901 adjustments will be due tomorrow, Friday 4/1 at 3pm Central (US) / 21:00 GMT. Earned builds are as follows:
Austria: build 2
England: build 1
France: build 1
Italy: build 1
Turkey: build 2
Thanks!
Cory
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Fall 1901 results:
Austria:
F Albania - Greece
A Serbia Supports A Bulgaria - Rumania
A Trieste - Vienna
England:
F London - English Channel
F North Sea Convoys A Yorkshire - Denmark
A Yorkshire - Denmark
France:
F Brest - Mid-Atlantic Ocean
A Burgundy - Marseilles (*Bounce*)
A Marseilles - Spain
Germany:
A Berlin, no move received
F Kiel, no move received
A Munich, no move received
Italy:
A Apulia - Tunis
F Ionian Sea Convoys A Apulia - Tunis
A Piedmont - Marseilles (*Bounce*)
Russia:
A Galicia, no move received
F Gulf of Bothnia, no move received
F Sevastopol, no move received
A Ukraine, no move received
Turkey:
F Ankara - Black Sea
A Bulgaria - Rumania
A Constantinople - Bulgaria[Reply] |
| DC 345: War is Peace - Blueraider0 (Mar 31, 2011, 5:17 pm) |
[Reply] |
| dc378 fall 01 - catsfather (Mar 31, 2011, 4:58 pm) |
Germany races north and finds itself with a fleet in Sweden leaving
Denmark as the only neutral supply centre.
Is Operation Odyssey on the French leader's mind? A no-fly zone over
Libya, or is he going "home" to Greece? Greece does seem a popular
spot with Austria and Turkey.
Builds due on Friday by 9pm GMT.
Movement results for Fall of 1901. (dc37
Austria: F Albania - Greece.
Austria: A Budapest - Trieste.
Austria: A Serbia Supports F Albania - Greece.
England: A Edinburgh - Norway.
England: F North Sea - Belgium.
England: F Norwegian Sea Convoys A Edinburgh - Norway.
France: A Gascony - Spain.
France: F Mid-Atlantic Ocean - Western Mediterranean.
France: A Spain - Portugal.
Germany: F Denmark - Sweden.
Germany: A Kiel - Holland.
Germany: A Ruhr Supports A Kiel - Holland.
Italy: A Apulia - Tunis.
Italy: F Ionian Sea Convoys A Apulia - Tunis.
Italy: A Venice Hold.
Russia: F Gulf of Bothnia Convoys A Livonia - Finland.
Russia: A Livonia - Finland.
Russia: F Sevastopol - Rumania.
Russia: A Ukraine Supports F Sevastopol - Rumania.
Turkey: F Ankara - Black Sea.
Turkey: A Bulgaria - Greece (*Fails*).
Turkey: A Constantinople - Bulgaria (*Fails*).
Unit locations:
Austria: F Greece, A Serbia, A Trieste.
England: F Belgium, A Norway, F Norwegian Sea.
France: A Portugal, A Spain, F Western Mediterranean.
Germany: A Holland, A Ruhr, F Sweden.
Italy: F Ionian Sea, A Tunis, A Venice.
Russia: A Finland, F Gulf of Bothnia, F Rumania, A Ukraine.
Turkey: F Black Sea, A Bulgaria, A Constantinople.
Ownership of supply centers:
Austria: Budapest, Greece, Serbia, Trieste, Vienna.
England: Belgium, Edinburgh, Liverpool, London, Norway.
France: Brest, Marseilles, Paris, Portugal, Spain.
Germany: Berlin, Holland, Kiel, Munich, Sweden.
Italy: Naples, Rome, Tunis, Venice.
Russia: Moscow, Rumania, Sevastopol, St Petersburg, Warsaw.
Turkey: Ankara, Bulgaria, Constantinople, Smyrna.
Unowned: Denmark.
Austria: 5 Supply centers, 3 Units: Builds 2 units.
England: 5 Supply centers, 3 Units: Builds 2 units.
France: 5 Supply centers, 3 Units: Builds 2 units.
Germany: 5 Supply centers, 3 Units: Builds 2 units.
Italy: 4 Supply centers, 3 Units: Builds 1 unit.
Russia: 5 Supply centers, 4 Units: Builds 1 unit.
Turkey: 4 Supply centers, 3 Units: Builds 1 unit.
The next phase of dc378 will be Adjustments for Winter of 1901.[Reply] |
| dc378 fall 01 (Winter Blitz) catsfather Apr 01, 12:25 pm |
Deadline approaching. If you've not had a "received" from me then
I've probably not got your build orders.
Hamish |
| DC 345: War is Peace - Viper (Mar 31, 2011, 4:27 pm) |
I really liked the distribution process. Perhaps something I would do next time is use the negotiations as my guide instead of the names people chose.
Yes, I went after "The One Who Will Win" just because he took that name. I had no other reason. Had I been paying more attention to the negotiations, I probably would've been much more wary of Adaria, but you know what they say about hindsight. I remain a little disappointed that I was unable to find any allies after the were-hamsters were finished, but in the end I'm just glad that Hembria was able (allowed?) to survive... and we even still have a 'b' to hold its place in our name, even if we had to move our parliament from Belgium to Brest.
Until next game,
mvp[Reply] |
| DC 345: War is Peace - untitled36 (Mar 31, 2011, 4:21 pm) |
I have to admit that after my elimination, I read the GM press in the adjucations, but rarely if ever opened a dpy or gif. So I'm only slightly aware of what happened in a post were-hamster world. If the world has no were-hamsters, what kind of world can it possibly be?
I liked the game as a whole. I started with what I thought was a strong Triple alliance in the north, primarily vs Loki Falcon (who I don't think ever returned my emails). But I was quickly stabbed, and there was no way I could hold my own. I died quickly in a blaze of glory. Or at least that's what I tell myself.
I enjoyed the game. I really enjoyed my negotiations with the other players, and us interacting with each other's imaginary "worlds." The flavor of this game was one of the best I've had in quite some time. And I especially enjoyed how even us eliminated players lobbed random press into the mix now and then. Really, it was a very *fun* game. And that was because of you, my fellow players (and of course our hardworking GM).
Variant-wise, I liked it all, except, as I said in the very beginning, I would have prefered more neutrals. Having so few neutrals forced us trust people with no chance to discern their trustworthiness. I know that's always a bit the case in any dip game. But generally Spring 01 is useful in sort of testing the water with allies. Here we didn't have any chance to get to know each other. Some may prefer that format, and I can see that viewpoint, but I would have liked to have everyone start with three centers instead of four.
At the same time, I think the bidding for centers worked beautifully. I liked having 4 rounds of one center apeice. I think it was the best way to handle the situation.
And hey, if you're recruiting for round two, I might be up for it. Two of my games ended today, so all I've got going on is the second round of the blitz (and another variant game where I am completely beholden to Dirk, the omnipresent "watcher" in this game). So I can probably over-commit myself with another game! The Were-Hamsters will rise again!!!
John
[Reply] |
| DC 373: Slight Delay - AceRimmer (Mar 31, 2011, 4:07 pm) |
| There's been a short delay in adjudication, but I expect to have one ready for you tomorrow. Thank you for your patience. [Reply] |
| No NMRs - AceRimmer (Mar 31, 2011, 4:04 pm) |
DC 345 has just completed after ten game years *without a single NMR*. I'm not sure I have ever witnessed such a feat. I think it is an extraordinary accomplishment. So much so that I want to publicly thank the eight players. Gentlemen, it has been an honor:
Alex Maslow
John Reside
Luke Fleischman
Mike Hoffman
Michael Penner
Nathan Edwards
Philip King
Warren Fleming[Reply] |
| DC 345: War is Peace - AceRimmer (Mar 31, 2011, 3:59 pm) |
Please bear with me through the following, rather long (yet all the same brutally redacted) quote from the greatest dystopian novel ever written. I apologize for eviscerating the passage of much of its punch (I highly recommend reading it in full), but I made the editorial decision to confine the excerpt as nearly as possible to Diplomacy. Please note the poignancy of the third pseudo-paragraph to Diplomacy.
Chapter III
War is Peace
The splitting up of the world into three great super-states was an event which could be and indeed was foreseen before the middle of the twentieth century... In one combination or another, these three super-states are permanently at war, and have been so for the past twenty-five years. War, however, is no longer the desperate, annihilating struggle that it was in the early decades of the twentieth century. It is a warfare of limited aims between combatants who are unable to destroy one another, have no material cause for fighting and are not divided by any genuine ideological difference...
War has in fact changed its character... To understand the nature of the present war - for in spite of the regrouping which occurs every few years, it is always the same war - one must realize in the first place that it is impossible for it to be decisive. None of the three super-states could be definitively conquered even by the other two in combination. They are too evenly matched, and their natural defenses are too formidable... Secondly, there is no longer, in a material sense, anything to fight about...
None of the three super-states ever attempts any maneuver which involves the risk of serious defeat. When any large operation is undertaken, it is usually a surprise attack against an ally. The strategy that all three powers are following, or pretend to themselves that they are following, is the same. The plan is, by a combination of fighting, bargaining, and well-timed strokes of treachery, to acquire a ring of bases completely encircling one or other of the rival states, and then to sign a pact of friendship with that rival and remain on peaceful terms for so many years as to lull suspicion to sleep... This scheme, it is hardly necessary to say, is a mere daydream, impossible of realization.
Here it is necessary to repeat what has been said earlier, that by becoming continuous war has fundamentally changed its character. In past ages, a war, almost by definition, was something that sooner or later came to an end, usually in unmistakable victory or defeat...
The effect would be much the same if the three super-states, instead of fighting one another, should agree to live in perpetual peace, each inviolate within its own boundaries. For in that case each would still be a self-contained universe, freed for ever from the sobering influence of external danger. A peace that was truly permanent would be the same as a permanent war. This - although the vast majority of Party members understand it only in a shallower sense - is the inner meaning of the Party slogan: WAR IS PEACE.
The ZAT draw proposal succeeds.
The Kingdom of Dulceria (now under Zonotrichian management) celebrates with a commemorative set of chocolate-covered were-hamsters. The Hembrians and especially the Iteans survive by the narrowest margins. The super-states of Adaria, Trigspor, and Zonotrichia continue eternally in a futile, ultimately winless effort to achieve global domination. In the process, they squander the productivity of their civilizations, descending into dingy, cheap, war-crazed near-slavery. Only the Party and Big Brother grasp the ultimate truth: power. Such is the inevitable conclusion of our game of Anarchist Dystopia.
Hear ye! Hear ye!! The publishing of end of game statements may now commence!!! Now is the time to tell us all just how devilishly smart you really were -- and how conniving, duplicitous, and depraved were your foes.
Please also discuss the Anarchy variant in your EoG! I want to know how you liked it. What did you think of the draft in rounds? How early did you start negotiating with other players about SC picks? Would you do it differently now? What about the chaos builds? Would you want more/fewer neutral SCs and more/fewer players? I want to know (because I damn well intend to GM another game of this).
In closing, I wish to note that this was an absolutely extraordinary game of Diplomacy to GM. I have never had one like it.
NOT. ONE. SINGLE. NMR.
Gentlemen... I give you a standing ovation. That is a remarkable team effort. Thank you for restoring my faith in humanity. And congratulations to Warren, Maslow, and Mike on your draw.[Reply] |
| DC 345: War is Peace (dc345) untitled36 Mar 31, 04:21 pm |
I have to admit that after my elimination, I read the GM press in the adjucations, but rarely if ever opened a dpy or gif. So I'm only slightly aware of what happened in a post were-hamster world. If the world has no were-hamsters, what kind of world can it possibly be?
I liked the game as a whole. I started with what I thought was a strong Triple alliance in the north, primarily vs Loki Falcon (who I don't think ever returned my emails). But I was quickly stabbed, and there was no way I could hold my own. I died quickly in a blaze of glory. Or at least that's what I tell myself.
I enjoyed the game. I really enjoyed my negotiations with the other players, and us interacting with each other's imaginary "worlds." The flavor of this game was one of the best I've had in quite some time. And I especially enjoyed how even us eliminated players lobbed random press into the mix now and then. Really, it was a very *fun* game. And that was because of you, my fellow players (and of course our hardworking GM).
Variant-wise, I liked it all, except, as I said in the very beginning, I would have prefered more neutrals. Having so few neutrals forced us trust people with no chance to discern their trustworthiness. I know that's always a bit the case in any dip game. But generally Spring 01 is useful in sort of testing the water with allies. Here we didn't have any chance to get to know each other. Some may prefer that format, and I can see that viewpoint, but I would have liked to have everyone start with three centers instead of four.
At the same time, I think the bidding for centers worked beautifully. I liked having 4 rounds of one center apeice. I think it was the best way to handle the situation.
And hey, if you're recruiting for round two, I might be up for it. Two of my games ended today, so all I've got going on is the second round of the blitz (and another variant game where I am completely beholden to Dirk, the omnipresent "watcher" in this game). So I can probably over-commit myself with another game! The Were-Hamsters will rise again!!!
John
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| DC 345: War is Peace (dc345) Viper Mar 31, 04:27 pm |
I really liked the distribution process. Perhaps something I would do next time is use the negotiations as my guide instead of the names people chose.
Yes, I went after "The One Who Will Win" just because he took that name. I had no other reason. Had I been paying more attention to the negotiations, I probably would've been much more wary of Adaria, but you know what they say about hindsight. I remain a little disappointed that I was unable to find any allies after the were-hamsters were finished, but in the end I'm just glad that Hembria was able (allowed?) to survive... and we even still have a 'b' to hold its place in our name, even if we had to move our parliament from Belgium to Brest.
Until next game,
mvp |
| DC 345: War is Peace (dc345) Blueraider0 Mar 31, 05:17 pm |
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| dc382 - Fall 1901 Results - ponkwilliams (Mar 31, 2011, 3:20 pm) |
Finally have some free time.
But another note to all:
They are keeping me another day. I'm still here and will be until late on Friday.
So I'm sorry to everyone in advance if I don't get replies out very fast.
Cheers,
Robin CD
From: Fredrik Blom <fredrik(at)familjenblom.se>
To: christian.wen(at)gmail.com; davidknight1955(at)gmail.com; finchleywomble(at)hotmail.com; mruhlen(at)hotmail.com; odvaha(at)aol.com; matthew_barnes(at)brown.edu;
ponkwilliams(at)yahoo.com
Cc: blitz(at)diplomaticcorp.com
Sent: Thu, March 31, 2011 1:58:02 PM
Subject: dc382 - Fall 1901 Results
Diplomats,
The autumn comes around, with no word from Austria, and the vultures are already at it. Down one, and there's only one open center left for next year: Tunis. I guess I'll see more action next year.
One retreat:
Austrian F Trieste can retreat to Albania, Adriatic Sea, or OTB.
Builds:
Everyone gets two builds except for Austria who gets to remove one unit unless the retreat is OTB.
Next turn: Winter 1901 Adjustments.
Next Deadline: Friday 1st of April 2011, 18:00 GMT (6PM).
Austria:
A Budapest, no move received
F Trieste Hold (*Dislodged*)
A Vienna, no move received
England:
F North Sea Convoys A Yorkshire - Denmark
F Norwegian Sea - Norway
A Yorkshire - Denmark
France:
F Mid-Atlantic Ocean - Spain(sc)
A Paris - Picardy
A Spain - Portugal
Germany:
F Holland - Belgium
A Kiel - Holland
A Munich Hold
Italy:
F Ionian Sea - Greece
A Tyrolia Supports A Venice - Trieste
A Venice - Trieste
Russia:
A Galicia - Rumania
F Gulf of Bothnia - Sweden
F Sevastopol - Black Sea (*Bounce*)
A St Petersburg - Finland
Turkey:
F Ankara - Black Sea (*Bounce*)
A Bulgaria - Serbia
A Constantinople - Bulgaria
Next turn: Winter 1901 Adjustments.
Next Deadline: Friday 1st of April 2011, 18:00 GMT (6PM).
/Fredrik[Reply] |
| DC379 - Fall 1901 Results - TrustMe (Mar 31, 2011, 2:14 pm) |
379 Board:
Austria - alhabashi - jim tapp - naamanbathing(at)yahoo.com
England - Stark - Mathew Power - mathew.t.power(at)gmail.com
France - tfletch33 - Thomas Fletcher - tfletch33(at)yahoo.com
Germany - MagDox - Gareth Griffiths - gnr.griffiths(at)gmail.com
Italy - ilovethechiefs - Philip King - ilovethechiefs(at)gmail.com
Russia - metalwarlord - Stuart Winch - stuartandmaria(at)googlemail.com
Turkey - DancingQueen - Dancing Queen - dance.scholar(at)gmail.com
Map:
http://www.diplomaticcorp.com/hgames/dc379013.gif
Deadline:
Winter '01 is due Friday Apr 1st 3 PM EDST (GMT -4) 1900 GMT
Orders and Results:
Austria:
F Albania - Greece
A Serbia Supports A Bulgaria - Rumania
A Trieste Hold
England:
F London - North Sea
F North Sea - Helgoland Bight
A Yorkshire Hold
France:
F Brest - Mid-Atlantic Ocean
A Marseilles - Spain
A Picardy - Belgium
Germany:
F Denmark - Sweden (*Bounce*)
A Kiel - Holland
A Munich - Ruhr
Italy:
F Ionian Sea Convoys A Naples - Tunis
A Naples - Tunis
A Tyrolia Hold
Russia:
F Gulf of Bothnia - Sweden (*Bounce*)
F Sevastopol - Rumania (*Bounce*)
A St Petersburg - Norway
A Ukraine Supports F Sevastopol - Rumania
Turkey:
F Ankara - Black Sea
A Bulgaria - Rumania (*Bounce*)
A Constantinople - Bulgaria (*Fails*)
Supply Center and Unit Count:
Austria: 5/3 Build 2
England: 3/3
France: 5/3 Build 2
Germany: 5/3 Build 2
Italy: 4/3 Build 1
Russia: 5/4 Build 1
Turkey: 4/3 Build 1[Reply] |
| dc360 - Fall 1912 Results - z93blom (Mar 31, 2011, 2:09 pm) |
[Reply] |
| dc382 - Fall 1901 Results - z93blom (Mar 31, 2011, 1:58 pm) |
[Reply] |
| dc382 - Fall 1901 Results (Winter Blitz) ponkwilliams Mar 31, 03:20 pm |
Finally have some free time.
But another note to all:
They are keeping me another day. I'm still here and will be until late on Friday.
So I'm sorry to everyone in advance if I don't get replies out very fast.
Cheers,
Robin CD
From: Fredrik Blom <fredrik(at)familjenblom.se>
To: christian.wen(at)gmail.com; davidknight1955(at)gmail.com; finchleywomble(at)hotmail.com; mruhlen(at)hotmail.com; odvaha(at)aol.com; matthew_barnes(at)brown.edu;
ponkwilliams(at)yahoo.com
Cc: blitz(at)diplomaticcorp.com
Sent: Thu, March 31, 2011 1:58:02 PM
Subject: dc382 - Fall 1901 Results
Diplomats,
The autumn comes around, with no word from Austria, and the vultures are already at it. Down one, and there's only one open center left for next year: Tunis. I guess I'll see more action next year.
One retreat:
Austrian F Trieste can retreat to Albania, Adriatic Sea, or OTB.
Builds:
Everyone gets two builds except for Austria who gets to remove one unit unless the retreat is OTB.
Next turn: Winter 1901 Adjustments.
Next Deadline: Friday 1st of April 2011, 18:00 GMT (6PM).
Austria:
A Budapest, no move received
F Trieste Hold (*Dislodged*)
A Vienna, no move received
England:
F North Sea Convoys A Yorkshire - Denmark
F Norwegian Sea - Norway
A Yorkshire - Denmark
France:
F Mid-Atlantic Ocean - Spain(sc)
A Paris - Picardy
A Spain - Portugal
Germany:
F Holland - Belgium
A Kiel - Holland
A Munich Hold
Italy:
F Ionian Sea - Greece
A Tyrolia Supports A Venice - Trieste
A Venice - Trieste
Russia:
A Galicia - Rumania
F Gulf of Bothnia - Sweden
F Sevastopol - Black Sea (*Bounce*)
A St Petersburg - Finland
Turkey:
F Ankara - Black Sea (*Bounce*)
A Bulgaria - Serbia
A Constantinople - Bulgaria
Next turn: Winter 1901 Adjustments.
Next Deadline: Friday 1st of April 2011, 18:00 GMT (6PM).
/Fredrik |
| DC 359 Game Over - jhack16 (Mar 31, 2011, 12:17 pm) |
Hi Guys,
A massive thank you to John for GM'ing this very long game with such
good humour, even when we tried his patience with all those rejected
draw offers...
This was probably the most unbalanced game I've played to date...
Russia's early NMR's and Jerome's helping me into a Russian centre
threw my early plans of working with Chris into disarray... I then got
caught in feeling bad about Austria, tried to help him, and then as
Germany wilted and England and France appeared to be at daggers drawn,
went for the big one against Italy. I was left working with a
diminished Matt who unfortunately had to NMR at a key moment, and the
result was a foregone conclusion.
So, a strategy that possibly would have yielded a better result, (I/T
alliance) was thrown away by me in a rush of blood to the head, and
you guys came up with the perfect strategy to overrun the G/T
defences.
The game's tone changed for me with my stab of Italy, as Chris seemed
to take it personally with some pretty direct comments about me and my
play. The change from delightful witty and incisive player to
something else was not an enjoyable experience for me.
Ande it was you wasnt it Chris who kept voting down the draws?
Apart from one occasion I voted in favor every time, so as Andy and
Jerome swept the board and did not look like stabbing one another,
that only left one person who could be voting against...
I admit I was tempted at the very last to vote No and see what
happened, but by that time I think the real fun had gone out of the
game for everyone and it wouldnt have been fair to John who never once
told us to get our act together and end the game. Also, in terms of
fairness I think Andy and Jerome have been a shining example of
sportsmanship.
Well played to all, and see you hopefully sometime in another game!
Good luck,
Joe
On 3/31/11, andy davidson wrote:
Hello Everyone
Thank You all for a well played game. Special thanks to John for GMing and
doing such a good job of it.
Matt was right he was doing a very good job of playing England and myself
against each other and after I made some mistakes in the first few rounds I
was sure he or Turkey would get the solo.
The turning point for me was when Jerome defended Edinburgh when I had
Liverpool for the taking. This showed me that he would defend England with
great tenacity and forgive all other centres to do so. This would have
worked in Germany favour who was already powerful. Jerome agreed to the
logic of an alliance immediately after being attacked by me and the rest is
history.
At no point did I ever fear being stabbed by England. I realized very early
on that Jerome is a very trustworthy Allie and that we had a very good shot
at moving far in this game. I expressed to Jerome when we first thought this
game was coming to an end that it is rare to find two players that work
together as we did. Because of the trust we had we were able to use our two
armies as a single force with no fear of leaving centres undefended. John is
right when he stated that this gave us a great advantage.
I would have no issues with playing with any of the players of this game
again but fear that if Jerome and I ever end up on the same board again it
would be unfair to the other players.
Just kidding, I'll take him out. My hat is off to Jerome, a new player who
learnt a lot this game and I hope he continues to play.
Again thank you to all for a very enjoyable game and best of luck to all in
the second round.
The Baron
Andy
--- On Thu, 3/31/11, John R wrote:
From: John R
Subject: DC 359 Game Over
To: "Wb 2011 france 1" , "wb 1 2011 russia"
, "DC359 Italy" , "WB
2011 england 1" , "Joe Hackett" ,
"DC359 Austria" , blitz(at)diplomaticcorp.com,
"wb 1 2011 germany"
Received: Thursday, March 31, 2011, 6:28 AM
Hey all,
Well, the fat lady is singing, the cows have come home, and peace is
celebrated throughout Europe. Good game, all. You were all the best kinds of
players to have, cordial, punctual, and reliable (well, except for the
Russian abandon...). I appreciate you all.
It was difficult not to comment on the game more than I did. I certainly
tried to be careful in my press, and only point out things that were obvious
to all. I hope I succeeded in that goal. But now that the game's over, I can
share a couple thoughts. First, way back in the day I predicted (in my own
mind) that Germany and Turkey would be the two powerhouses at games end. I
still feel they were both very strong players, but they just got overwhelmed
by the sheer number of troops France and England can muster.
Speaking of France and England, they formed an incredibly strong
partnership. I think that's the power of alliances in Diplomacy. A tight
knit pair of powers can almost always defeat any number of loosely allied,
untrusting enemies. Still, I have to admit my suprise that England did not
at some point stab France. Specifically in Fall 09. At that point, England
could have easily claimed 4 french centers, with the rest of france
essentially undefended, and quite possibly led to an English win. By that
point of the game France and England were pretty solid, so I wondered if
England was even considering a stab at that juncture.
Anyway, that's my EoG. I'd love to hear all of yours!
Housekeeping-wise, a few things.
1) I will NOT reveal draw votes, because it is against DC house rules, which
I told you guys in the beginning that I was following for the blitz. I do
encourage you guys to reveal them though.
2) The score, to the best of my knowledge, should be:
Austria - 2 points
England - 16 Points
France - 15.9 Points
Germany - 2 points
Italy - 4.5 points
Russia - 2 points
Turkey - 4.9 points
Hope that helps! Thanks for playing!
John[Reply] |
| DC327 - Spring 19 adjudication - ConradW (Mar 31, 2011, 12:13 pm) |
I am really not a stabber by nature, but won't waste time trying to overcome appearances
Seriously though I somehow managed to reach agreement with both Boeotia and Argos (whatever it's called) and then thought heck where do I go? Then Arcolia offers the alliance against Boeotia so ... the good Sarge was not happy, which was OK, but I didn't realize that the MVP deal was somehow contingent upon Boeotia. That leads me to think that perhaps they were planning to divvy me up in the long run anyway.
Then there is Laconia who had the arrangement with his neighbor and didn't really budge on it as he seemed singlarly focused on destroying Arcolia. That said and this relates to Mike's point about home centers there came the point when I was about to lose my last one, Athens, and Greg didn't view that as a problem, but I did. So Laconia is a persuasive guy and never stops which no doubt is a major factor in his success. Hence I cut the deal to switch sides again. That worked pretty well actually.
Finally Boeotia came back to his home and gained a center from me -- notice there was no attempt to take him out at then end. It seemed only just.
[Reply] |
| dc374 Fall Correction - notasb (Mar 31, 2011, 11:02 am) |
I'd like to say it was an early April Fools Joke, unfortunately for my pride, I made an error and moved the Turkish troops in Armenia the wrong direction.
Map:
http://home.comcast.net/~dawench/374/37401Fall.gif
Deadline:
Builds are due Friday April 1st 8 AM CDST (GMT -5) 1300 GMT
Corrected Turkish order for Armenia:
A Armenia - Smyrna
Corrected Builds Due:
England: 4 / 3 Build 1
France: 5 / 3 Build 2
Germany: 6 / 3 Build 3
Russia: 6 / 4 Build 2
Turkey: 4 / 3 Build 1
No Adjustment Due:
Austria: 3 / 3
Italy: 3 / 3
------------
"We are not retreating-we are advancing in another direction."
- General Douglas MacArthur[Reply] |
| DC 359 Game Over - baron003 (Mar 31, 2011, 10:04 am) |
Hello Everyone
Thank You all for a well played game. Special thanks to John for GMing and doing such a good job of it.
Matt was right he was doing a very good job of playing England and myself against each other and after I made some mistakes in the first few rounds I was sure he or Turkey would get the solo.
The turning point for me was when Jerome defended Edinburgh when I had Liverpool for the taking. This showed me that he would defend England with great tenacity and forgive all other centres to do so. This would have worked in Germany favour who was already powerful. Jerome agreed to the logic of an alliance immediately after being attacked by me and the rest is history.
At no point did I ever fear being stabbed by England. I realized very early on that Jerome is a very trustworthy Allie and that we had a very good shot at moving far in this game. I expressed to Jerome when we first thought this game was coming to an end that it is rare to find two players that work together as we did. Because of the trust we had we were able to use our two armies as a single force with no fear of leaving centres undefended. John is right when he stated that this gave us a great advantage.
I would have no issues with playing with any of the players of this game again but fear that if Jerome and I ever end up on the same board again it would be unfair to the other players.
Just kidding, I'll take him out. My hat is off to Jerome, a new player who learnt a lot this game and I hope he continues to play.
Again thank you to all for a very enjoyable game and best of luck to all in the second round.
The Baron
Andy
--- On Thu, 3/31/11, John R <untitled36(at)hotmail.com> wrote:
From: John R <untitled36(at)hotmail.com>
Subject: DC 359 Game Over
To: "Wb 2011 france 1" <lebaron0819(at)yahoo.com>, "wb 1 2011 russia" <chessman121212(at)gmail.com>, "DC359 Italy" <dance.scholar(at)gmail.com>, "WB 2011 england 1" <jerome777(at)ymail.com>, "Joe Hackett" <jhack16(at)gmail.com>, "DC359 Austria" <ihatehairyspiders(at)hotmail.com>, blitz(at)diplomaticcorp.com, "wb 1 2011 germany" <matthew_barnes(at)brown.edu>
Received: Thursday, March 31, 2011, 6:28 AM
Hey all,
Well, the fat lady is singing, the cows have come home, and peace is celebrated throughout Europe. Good game, all. You were all the best kinds of players to have, cordial, punctual, and reliable (well, except for the Russian abandon...). I appreciate you all.
It was difficult not to comment on the game more than I did. I certainly tried to be careful in my press, and only point out things that were obvious to all. I hope I succeeded in that goal. But now that the game's over, I can share a couple thoughts. First, way back in the day I predicted (in my own mind) that Germany and Turkey would be the two powerhouses at games end. I still feel they were both very strong players, but they just got overwhelmed by the sheer number of troops France and England can muster.
Speaking of France and England, they formed an incredibly strong partnership. I think that's the power of alliances in Diplomacy. A tight knit pair of powers can
almost always defeat any number of loosely allied, untrusting enemies. Still, I have to admit my suprise that England did not at some point stab France. Specifically in Fall 09. At that point, England could have easily claimed 4 french centers, with the rest of france essentially undefended, and quite possibly led to an English win. By that point of the game France and England were pretty solid, so I wondered if England was even considering a stab at that juncture.
Anyway, that's my EoG. I'd love to hear all of yours!
Housekeeping-wise, a few things.
1) I will NOT reveal draw votes, because it is against DC house rules, which I told you guys in the beginning that I was following for the blitz. I do encourage you guys to reveal them though.
2) The score, to the best of my knowledge, should be:
Austria - 2 points
England - 16 Points
France - 15.9
Points
Germany - 2 points
Italy - 4.5 points
Russia - 2 points
Turkey - 4.9 points
Hope that helps! Thanks for playing!
John[Reply] |
| Forwarding e-mails - sgttodd (Mar 31, 2011, 10:02 am) |
No GM needs to regulate the use of valid game tactics that do not interfere with the management of the game. Any GM that does should immediately be placed in The Order of the Pansy.
How the hell does a GM enforce that anyway? How does he know the whistle blower isn't lying himself and the whole thing's not a hoax?[Reply] |
| DC 359 England EoG statement - jerome777 (Mar 31, 2011, 9:52 am) |
Now then everybody,
First of all, a massive thanks to John R for doing such a wonderful job in GM'ing our game with applomb, giving up his time in the process to help us lot get our jollies in the greatest game on earth.
Secondly, let me say thank you to all six of my opponents in this game, I got to know some of you quite well through our email messages, I hope to get to know you all better in the games I hope we have to come at the stupendous DC website. Particular thanks must go to France - Andy, you are a star sir, I've learned so much from being your ally, I just wish we could have gotten our act together earlier.
Wow what a game! Great fun, and a massive learning curve for me. The main reason I entered this tournament was to get myself some experience at playing Dip, this was my third ever game of Dip and I'm still highly surprised and delighted to have gotten a slice of a two-way draw. I've learned a hell of a lot in this game, and if you'll let an excited noobie bore the pants off you for a moment, in particular I learned:
i) to not be strategically rigid pre-Spring 1901 - as soon as I knew I was England I'd thought I'd go into the game forming an alliance with Germany against France, and this prejudice then made it really difficult for me to communicate effectively with France for the first few years.
ii) never to give up - I was considering abandoning ship (and ordering all units to hold till knocked out) in Autumn 1903 when convinced that France was to roll over me, and it was only due to some frank email exchanges between France and me that I realised we could put the past behind us and cooperate together that I kept fighting.
iii) look carefully across the whole board each adjudication - I'd badly misjudged the changing balance of power relationships in the East, leading me to misguidedly support Turkey into Sevastopol from Moscow in Autumn 1903 thinking I was doing my friend Italy a favour. How different the game would have been without this.
iv) PBEM Dip is about as much fun as you can have with your pants on!
I note from other peoples' comments that there is some degree of surprise amongst some at my failure to stab France in Autumn 1909. I was well aware at the time that I was in position to stab France and take Ber, Kie, Bel and Bre simultaneously. Yet the stab never did appeal to me. I'd given my word to France to strain every sinew in working towards an EF two-way, and that means a lot to me. I'm quite happy to fib to other players about short-term tactical considerations (as Turkey and Germany found out in Spring 06 with my failure to support either one of them into Warsaw), though when I give my word that's different. Coupled with this is the fact that I couldn't see me soloing from that position - the only Power that would have benefited from the stab would have been Turkey, and I felt (rightly or wrongly) that I had no realistic chance of manoevring Turkey into a two-way ET draw from that position.
John asks us all to reveal our draw-proposal votes. I'm not sure there's that much point in me doing this as it must be fairly obvious how I voted each time, but for the record, I voted in favour of each one of the proposed EF draws, and I also proposed most of them too. It's a shame we couldn't have concluded a two-way EF before Germany had gotten knocked out, I thought Matt deserved a survival outcome from the game, though that's life I suppose. Hope you solo your round two game, Matt!
Anyway, enough rambling from me. Take care you guys, it was a privilege and an honour to spend time around the virtual board with you all. Good luck all in your Blitz round two games.
Jerome
From: John R <untitled36(at)hotmail.com>
To: Wb 2011 france 1 <lebaron0819(at)yahoo.com>; wb 1 2011 russia <chessman121212(at)gmail.com>; DC359 Italy <dance.scholar(at)gmail.com>; WB 2011 england 1 <jerome777(at)ymail.com>; Joe Hackett <jhack16(at)gmail.com>; DC359 Austria <ihatehairyspiders(at)hotmail.com>; blitz(at)diplomaticcorp.com; wb 1 2011 germany <matthew_barnes(at)brown.edu>
Sent: Thu, 31 March, 2011 14:28:10
Subject: DC 359 Game Over
Hey all,
Well, the fat lady is singing, the cows have come home, and peace is celebrated throughout Europe. Good game, all. You were all the best kinds of players to have, cordial, punctual, and reliable (well, except for the Russian abandon...). I appreciate you all.
It was difficult not to comment on the game more than I did. I certainly tried to be careful in my press, and only point out things that were obvious to all. I hope I succeeded in that goal. But now that the game's over, I can share a couple thoughts. First, way back in the day I predicted (in my own mind) that Germany and Turkey would be the two powerhouses at games end. I still feel they were both very strong players, but they just got overwhelmed by the sheer number of troops France and England can muster.
Speaking of France and England, they formed an incredibly strong partnership. I think that's the power of alliances in Diplomacy. A tight knit pair of powers can
almost always defeat any number of loosely allied, untrusting enemies. Still, I have to admit my suprise that England did not at some point stab France. Specifically in Fall 09. At that point, England could have easily claimed 4 french centers, with the rest of france essentially undefended, and quite possibly led to an English win. By that point of the game France and England were pretty solid, so I wondered if England was even considering a stab at that juncture.
Anyway, that's my EoG. I'd love to hear all of yours!
Housekeeping-wise, a few things.
1) I will NOT reveal draw votes, because it is against DC house rules, which I told you guys in the beginning that I was following for the blitz. I do encourage you guys to reveal them though.
2) The score, to the best of my knowledge, should be:
Austria - 2 points
England - 16 Points
France - 15.9
Points
Germany - 2 points
Italy - 4.5 points
Russia - 2 points
Turkey - 4.9 points
Hope that helps! Thanks for playing!
John[Reply] |
