| A Call to Arms! - vegas_iwish (Jul 12, 2014, 7:02 pm) |
| You clearly did not live throught the 1st (&only) golden age of wargaming 35-40 ys ago. Far more choice & far better games. It might be better now than in mid-80s but wargaming died long before even that time under D&D/ASLfolks not having the time. So many games now based on cards & other gimmicks. Dip was not considered a wargame due to its total lack of realism (4.9 on a scale of 10 at the time which was generous. Average 6.5 or so). Games like Frederick the Great & Panzerarmee Afrika came out in S&T as mag games - unreal! Community (non-dip) in the 100s of thousands not the 10s of thousands. No long-timer would ever make such a point. Your past is not the true past. Last line dead wrong as SSI computer wargames even have not been surpassed today for realism/quality. Better graphics mean zip. [Reply] |
| DC501 - Fall 1902 - Operations (Jul 12, 2014, 12:03 pm) |
That will be the policy for anyone who misses two deadlines in a row, by the way.
On , John Smith wrote:
If I don't get builds from him for the Winter, he will be removed and the game will be stopped for a replacement.
On Saturday, July 12, 2014 10:57 AM, Timothy Crosby wrote:
Has anyone actually heard from Scott? I have sent him several letters and
got one back but
that was before the first turn. This game could get ugly really fast. tim
On Fri, Jul 11, 2014 at 11:29 PM, John Smith wrote:
Apologies, gentlemen, we have some corrections. There was another set of orders that were sent, but labeled incorrectly so they were misfiled. Given that I confirmed them at the time and did not notice the error, I will accept them this one time.
Sorry for the confusion, and anyone who has already sent build orders may of course resend given the modified map. The corrected information follows...
Austria: No builds England: 1 disband France: 2 builds Germany: 3 builds Italy: 2 builds
Russia: 1
build
Turkey: 2 builds
Deadline for Winter 1902 is July 13th Austria
NMR England
F English Channel Convoys A London - Belgium
A Finland Hold
A London - Belgium (*Fails*)
F North Sea Hold France
NMR Germany
A Burgundy - Paris
F Denmark - Sweden (*Bounce*)
F Holland Supports A Ruhr - Belgium
A Ruhr - Belgium
Italy
F Ionian Sea - Greece
A Serbia Supports A Bulgaria - Rumania (*Invalid*)
A Trieste Supports A Serbia
A Venice Supports A Trieste
Russia A Galicia Supports F Sevastopol - Rumania
F Norway - Sweden (*Bounce*)
F Sevastopol - Rumania
A St Petersburg - Finland (*Fails*)
A Ukraine Supports F Sevastopol - Rumania Turkey
A Armenia - Sevastopol
F Black Sea Supports A Armenia - Sevastopol
A Bulgaria Hold
A Rumania - Serbia (*Disbanded*)
On Friday, July 11, 2014 7:27 PM, John Smith wrote:
So... regrettably, we have three NMR's this turn. Either people aren't paying attention to the deadlines, or they're not paying attention to the format rules I've given and so the emails are being missed. Either way, let's hope it's
not a continuing situation. Adjustments are as follows: Austria: No builds England: No builds France: 3 builds
Germany: 1 build Italy: 2 builds Russia: No builds
Turkey: 2 builds
Deadline for Winter 1902 is July 13th
Austria NMR
England
F English Channel Convoys A London - Belgium
A Finland Hold
A London - Belgium (*Fails*)
F North Sea Hold France
NMR
Germany
NMR Italy
F Ionian Sea - Greece
A Serbia Supports A Bulgaria - Rumania (*Invalid*)
A Trieste Supports A Serbia
A Venice Supports A Trieste Russia
A Galicia Supports F Sevastopol - Rumania
F Norway - Sweden
F Sevastopol - Rumania
A St Petersburg - Finland (*Fails*)
A Ukraine Supports F Sevastopol - Rumania
Turkey
A Armenia - Sevastopol
F Black Sea Supports A Armenia - Sevastopol
A Bulgaria Hold
A Rumania - Serbia (*Disbanded*)[Reply] |
| DC501 - Fall 1902 - Operations (Jul 12, 2014, 12:01 pm) |
If I don't get builds from him for the Winter, he will be removed and the game will be stopped for a replacement.
On Saturday, July 12, 2014 10:57 AM, Timothy Crosby wrote:
Has anyone actually heard from Scott? I have sent him several letters and got one back but
that was before the first turn. This game could get ugly really fast. tim
On Fri, Jul 11, 2014 at 11:29 PM, John Smith wrote:
Apologies, gentlemen, we have some corrections. There was another set of orders that were sent, but labeled incorrectly so they were misfiled. Given that I confirmed them at the time and did not notice the error, I will accept them this one time.
Sorry for the confusion, and anyone who has already sent build orders may of course resend given the modified map. The corrected information follows...
Austria: No builds England: 1 disband France: 2 builds Germany: 3 builds Italy: 2 builds
Russia: 1
build
Turkey: 2 builds
Deadline for Winter 1902 is July 13th Austria
NMR England
F English Channel Convoys A London - Belgium
A Finland Hold
A London - Belgium (*Fails*)
F North Sea Hold France
NMR Germany
A Burgundy - Paris
F Denmark - Sweden (*Bounce*)
F Holland Supports A Ruhr - Belgium
A Ruhr - Belgium
Italy
F Ionian Sea - Greece
A Serbia Supports A Bulgaria - Rumania (*Invalid*)
A Trieste Supports A Serbia
A Venice Supports A Trieste
Russia A Galicia Supports F Sevastopol - Rumania
F Norway - Sweden (*Bounce*)
F Sevastopol - Rumania
A St Petersburg - Finland (*Fails*)
A Ukraine Supports F Sevastopol - Rumania Turkey
A Armenia - Sevastopol
F Black Sea Supports A Armenia - Sevastopol
A Bulgaria Hold
A Rumania - Serbia (*Disbanded*)
On Friday, July 11, 2014 7:27 PM, John Smith wrote:
So... regrettably, we have three NMR's this turn. Either people aren't paying attention to the deadlines, or they're not paying attention to the format rules I've given and so the emails are being missed. Either way, let's hope it's
not a continuing situation. Adjustments are as follows: Austria: No builds England: No builds France: 3 builds
Germany: 1 build Italy: 2 builds Russia: No builds
Turkey: 2 builds
Deadline for Winter 1902 is July 13th
Austria NMR
England
F English Channel Convoys A London - Belgium
A Finland Hold
A London - Belgium (*Fails*)
F North Sea Hold France
NMR
Germany
NMR Italy
F Ionian Sea - Greece
A Serbia Supports A Bulgaria - Rumania (*Invalid*)
A Trieste Supports A Serbia
A Venice Supports A Trieste Russia
A Galicia Supports F Sevastopol - Rumania
F Norway - Sweden
F Sevastopol - Rumania
A St Petersburg - Finland (*Fails*)
A Ukraine Supports F Sevastopol - Rumania
Turkey
A Armenia - Sevastopol
F Black Sea Supports A Armenia - Sevastopol
A Bulgaria Hold
A Rumania - Serbia (*Disbanded*)[Reply] |
| DC501 - Fall 1902 - fencertim (Jul 12, 2014, 9:57 am) |
[Reply] |
| DC501 - Fall 1902 - Operations (Jul 11, 2014, 10:29 pm) |
Apologies, gentlemen, we have some corrections. There was another set of orders that were sent, but labeled incorrectly so they were misfiled. Given that I confirmed them at the time and did not notice the error, I will accept them this one time. Sorry for the confusion, and anyone who has already sent build orders may of course resend given the modified map. The corrected information follows... Austria: No builds England: 1 disband France: 2 builds Germany: 3 builds Italy: 2 builds Russia: 1
build
Turkey: 2 builds
Deadline for Winter 1902 is July 13th Austria NMR England
F English Channel Convoys A London - Belgium
A Finland Hold
A London - Belgium (*Fails*)
F North Sea Hold France
NMR Germany
A Burgundy - Paris
F Denmark - Sweden (*Bounce*)
F Holland Supports A Ruhr - Belgium
A Ruhr - Belgium
Italy
F Ionian Sea - Greece
A Serbia Supports A Bulgaria - Rumania (*Invalid*)
A Trieste Supports A Serbia
A Venice Supports A Trieste Russia A Galicia Supports F Sevastopol - Rumania
F Norway - Sweden (*Bounce*)
F Sevastopol - Rumania
A St Petersburg - Finland (*Fails*)
A Ukraine Supports F Sevastopol - Rumania Turkey
A Armenia - Sevastopol
F Black Sea Supports A Armenia - Sevastopol
A Bulgaria Hold
A Rumania - Serbia (*Disbanded*)
On Friday, July 11, 2014 7:27 PM, John Smith wrote:
So... regrettably, we have three NMR's this turn. Either people aren't paying attention to the deadlines, or they're not paying attention to the format rules I've given and so the emails are being missed. Either way, let's hope it's
not a continuing situation. Adjustments are as follows: Austria: No builds England: No builds France: 3 builds Germany: 1 build Italy: 2 builds Russia: No builds
Turkey: 2 builds
Deadline for Winter 1902 is July 13th Austria NMR England
F English Channel Convoys A London - Belgium
A Finland Hold
A London - Belgium (*Fails*)
F North Sea Hold France
NMR Germany
NMR Italy
F Ionian Sea - Greece
A Serbia Supports A Bulgaria - Rumania (*Invalid*)
A Trieste Supports A Serbia
A Venice Supports A Trieste Russia A Galicia Supports F Sevastopol - Rumania
F Norway - Sweden
F Sevastopol - Rumania
A St Petersburg - Finland (*Fails*)
A Ukraine Supports F Sevastopol - Rumania Turkey
A Armenia - Sevastopol
F Black Sea Supports A Armenia - Sevastopol
A Bulgaria Hold
A Rumania - Serbia (*Disbanded*)[Reply] |
| DC501 - Fall 1902 - Operations (Jul 11, 2014, 6:27 pm) |
So... regrettably, we have three NMR's this turn. Either people aren't paying attention to the deadlines, or they're not paying attention to the format rules I've given and so the emails are being missed. Either way, let's hope it's
not a continuing situation. Adjustments are as follows: Austria: No builds England: No builds France: 3 builds Germany: 1 build Italy: 2 builds Russia: No builds
Turkey: 2 builds
Deadline for Winter 1902 is July 13th Austria NMR England
F English Channel Convoys A London - Belgium
A Finland Hold
A London - Belgium (*Fails*)
F North Sea Hold France
NMR Germany
NMR Italy
F Ionian Sea - Greece
A Serbia Supports A Bulgaria - Rumania (*Invalid*)
A Trieste Supports A Serbia
A Venice Supports A Trieste Russia A Galicia Supports F Sevastopol - Rumania
F Norway - Sweden
F Sevastopol - Rumania
A St Petersburg - Finland (*Fails*)
A Ukraine Supports F Sevastopol - Rumania Turkey
A Armenia - Sevastopol
F Black Sea Supports A Armenia - Sevastopol
A Bulgaria Hold
A Rumania - Serbia (*Disbanded*)[Reply] |
| DC501 - Fall 1902 (dc501) Operations Jul 11, 10:29 pm |
Apologies, gentlemen, we have some corrections. There was another set of orders that were sent, but labeled incorrectly so they were misfiled. Given that I confirmed them at the time and did not notice the error, I will accept them this one time. Sorry for the confusion, and anyone who has already sent build orders may of course resend given the modified map. The corrected information follows... Austria: No builds England: 1 disband France: 2 builds Germany: 3 builds Italy: 2 builds Russia: 1
build
Turkey: 2 builds
Deadline for Winter 1902 is July 13th Austria NMR England
F English Channel Convoys A London - Belgium
A Finland Hold
A London - Belgium (*Fails*)
F North Sea Hold France
NMR Germany
A Burgundy - Paris
F Denmark - Sweden (*Bounce*)
F Holland Supports A Ruhr - Belgium
A Ruhr - Belgium
Italy
F Ionian Sea - Greece
A Serbia Supports A Bulgaria - Rumania (*Invalid*)
A Trieste Supports A Serbia
A Venice Supports A Trieste Russia A Galicia Supports F Sevastopol - Rumania
F Norway - Sweden (*Bounce*)
F Sevastopol - Rumania
A St Petersburg - Finland (*Fails*)
A Ukraine Supports F Sevastopol - Rumania Turkey
A Armenia - Sevastopol
F Black Sea Supports A Armenia - Sevastopol
A Bulgaria Hold
A Rumania - Serbia (*Disbanded*)
On Friday, July 11, 2014 7:27 PM, John Smith wrote:
So... regrettably, we have three NMR's this turn. Either people aren't paying attention to the deadlines, or they're not paying attention to the format rules I've given and so the emails are being missed. Either way, let's hope it's
not a continuing situation. Adjustments are as follows: Austria: No builds England: No builds France: 3 builds Germany: 1 build Italy: 2 builds Russia: No builds
Turkey: 2 builds
Deadline for Winter 1902 is July 13th Austria NMR England
F English Channel Convoys A London - Belgium
A Finland Hold
A London - Belgium (*Fails*)
F North Sea Hold France
NMR Germany
NMR Italy
F Ionian Sea - Greece
A Serbia Supports A Bulgaria - Rumania (*Invalid*)
A Trieste Supports A Serbia
A Venice Supports A Trieste Russia A Galicia Supports F Sevastopol - Rumania
F Norway - Sweden
F Sevastopol - Rumania
A St Petersburg - Finland (*Fails*)
A Ukraine Supports F Sevastopol - Rumania Turkey
A Armenia - Sevastopol
F Black Sea Supports A Armenia - Sevastopol
A Bulgaria Hold
A Rumania - Serbia (*Disbanded*) |
| DC501 - Fall 1902 (dc501) fencertim Jul 12, 09:57 am |
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| DC501 - Fall 1902 (dc501) Operations Jul 12, 12:01 pm |
If I don't get builds from him for the Winter, he will be removed and the game will be stopped for a replacement.
On Saturday, July 12, 2014 10:57 AM, Timothy Crosby wrote:
Has anyone actually heard from Scott? I have sent him several letters and got one back but
that was before the first turn. This game could get ugly really fast. tim
On Fri, Jul 11, 2014 at 11:29 PM, John Smith wrote:
Apologies, gentlemen, we have some corrections. There was another set of orders that were sent, but labeled incorrectly so they were misfiled. Given that I confirmed them at the time and did not notice the error, I will accept them this one time.
Sorry for the confusion, and anyone who has already sent build orders may of course resend given the modified map. The corrected information follows...
Austria: No builds England: 1 disband France: 2 builds Germany: 3 builds Italy: 2 builds
Russia: 1
build
Turkey: 2 builds
Deadline for Winter 1902 is July 13th Austria
NMR England
F English Channel Convoys A London - Belgium
A Finland Hold
A London - Belgium (*Fails*)
F North Sea Hold France
NMR Germany
A Burgundy - Paris
F Denmark - Sweden (*Bounce*)
F Holland Supports A Ruhr - Belgium
A Ruhr - Belgium
Italy
F Ionian Sea - Greece
A Serbia Supports A Bulgaria - Rumania (*Invalid*)
A Trieste Supports A Serbia
A Venice Supports A Trieste
Russia A Galicia Supports F Sevastopol - Rumania
F Norway - Sweden (*Bounce*)
F Sevastopol - Rumania
A St Petersburg - Finland (*Fails*)
A Ukraine Supports F Sevastopol - Rumania Turkey
A Armenia - Sevastopol
F Black Sea Supports A Armenia - Sevastopol
A Bulgaria Hold
A Rumania - Serbia (*Disbanded*)
On Friday, July 11, 2014 7:27 PM, John Smith wrote:
So... regrettably, we have three NMR's this turn. Either people aren't paying attention to the deadlines, or they're not paying attention to the format rules I've given and so the emails are being missed. Either way, let's hope it's
not a continuing situation. Adjustments are as follows: Austria: No builds England: No builds France: 3 builds
Germany: 1 build Italy: 2 builds Russia: No builds
Turkey: 2 builds
Deadline for Winter 1902 is July 13th
Austria NMR
England
F English Channel Convoys A London - Belgium
A Finland Hold
A London - Belgium (*Fails*)
F North Sea Hold France
NMR
Germany
NMR Italy
F Ionian Sea - Greece
A Serbia Supports A Bulgaria - Rumania (*Invalid*)
A Trieste Supports A Serbia
A Venice Supports A Trieste Russia
A Galicia Supports F Sevastopol - Rumania
F Norway - Sweden
F Sevastopol - Rumania
A St Petersburg - Finland (*Fails*)
A Ukraine Supports F Sevastopol - Rumania
Turkey
A Armenia - Sevastopol
F Black Sea Supports A Armenia - Sevastopol
A Bulgaria Hold
A Rumania - Serbia (*Disbanded*) |
| DC501 - Fall 1902 (dc501) Operations Jul 12, 12:03 pm |
That will be the policy for anyone who misses two deadlines in a row, by the way.
On , John Smith wrote:
If I don't get builds from him for the Winter, he will be removed and the game will be stopped for a replacement.
On Saturday, July 12, 2014 10:57 AM, Timothy Crosby wrote:
Has anyone actually heard from Scott? I have sent him several letters and
got one back but
that was before the first turn. This game could get ugly really fast. tim
On Fri, Jul 11, 2014 at 11:29 PM, John Smith wrote:
Apologies, gentlemen, we have some corrections. There was another set of orders that were sent, but labeled incorrectly so they were misfiled. Given that I confirmed them at the time and did not notice the error, I will accept them this one time.
Sorry for the confusion, and anyone who has already sent build orders may of course resend given the modified map. The corrected information follows...
Austria: No builds England: 1 disband France: 2 builds Germany: 3 builds Italy: 2 builds
Russia: 1
build
Turkey: 2 builds
Deadline for Winter 1902 is July 13th Austria
NMR England
F English Channel Convoys A London - Belgium
A Finland Hold
A London - Belgium (*Fails*)
F North Sea Hold France
NMR Germany
A Burgundy - Paris
F Denmark - Sweden (*Bounce*)
F Holland Supports A Ruhr - Belgium
A Ruhr - Belgium
Italy
F Ionian Sea - Greece
A Serbia Supports A Bulgaria - Rumania (*Invalid*)
A Trieste Supports A Serbia
A Venice Supports A Trieste
Russia A Galicia Supports F Sevastopol - Rumania
F Norway - Sweden (*Bounce*)
F Sevastopol - Rumania
A St Petersburg - Finland (*Fails*)
A Ukraine Supports F Sevastopol - Rumania Turkey
A Armenia - Sevastopol
F Black Sea Supports A Armenia - Sevastopol
A Bulgaria Hold
A Rumania - Serbia (*Disbanded*)
On Friday, July 11, 2014 7:27 PM, John Smith wrote:
So... regrettably, we have three NMR's this turn. Either people aren't paying attention to the deadlines, or they're not paying attention to the format rules I've given and so the emails are being missed. Either way, let's hope it's
not a continuing situation. Adjustments are as follows: Austria: No builds England: No builds France: 3 builds
Germany: 1 build Italy: 2 builds Russia: No builds
Turkey: 2 builds
Deadline for Winter 1902 is July 13th
Austria NMR
England
F English Channel Convoys A London - Belgium
A Finland Hold
A London - Belgium (*Fails*)
F North Sea Hold France
NMR
Germany
NMR Italy
F Ionian Sea - Greece
A Serbia Supports A Bulgaria - Rumania (*Invalid*)
A Trieste Supports A Serbia
A Venice Supports A Trieste Russia
A Galicia Supports F Sevastopol - Rumania
F Norway - Sweden
F Sevastopol - Rumania
A St Petersburg - Finland (*Fails*)
A Ukraine Supports F Sevastopol - Rumania
Turkey
A Armenia - Sevastopol
F Black Sea Supports A Armenia - Sevastopol
A Bulgaria Hold
A Rumania - Serbia (*Disbanded*) |
| Fwd: DC503 - Spring 1901 - Zoterik (Jul 10, 2014, 2:56 pm) |
[Reply] |
| dc492 four-way draw declared - derekthefeared2 (Jul 09, 2014, 10:01 pm) |
[Reply] |
| dc492 four-way draw declared - chaosonejoe (Jul 09, 2014, 4:50 pm) |
[Reply] |
| DC489 Camus Fall 1907 results! - Cartesian (Jul 09, 2014, 4:46 pm) |
[Reply] |
| DC489 Camus Fall 1907 results! - bucksworld (Jul 09, 2014, 2:33 pm) |
[Reply] |
| dc492 four-way draw declared - DerEwald (Jul 09, 2014, 2:05 pm) |
[Reply] |
| A Call to Arms! - Operations (Jul 09, 2014, 12:05 pm) |
| I don't know if it would be considered a "war game", but I miss playing Junta. I played it a lot in college, and haven't played it since. [Reply] |
| A Call to Arms! - charlesf (Jul 09, 2014, 7:39 am) |
I'd say rumours of wargaming's demise are greatly exaggerated!
I'd say we're experiencing the second golden age of wargaming. Look at the immense catalogue of terrific recent wargames. Look at the vibrancy of the community.
Sure, a print-run today might only be in the 2000-5000 spectrum. But many more wargames are produced per year than in the past. Consumer choice has never been better.[Reply] |
| A Call to Arms! (Community) Operations Jul 09, 12:05 pm |
| I don't know if it would be considered a "war game", but I miss playing Junta. I played it a lot in college, and haven't played it since. |
| A Call to Arms! (Community) vegas_iwish Jul 12, 07:02 pm |
| You clearly did not live throught the 1st (&only) golden age of wargaming 35-40 ys ago. Far more choice & far better games. It might be better now than in mid-80s but wargaming died long before even that time under D&D/ASLfolks not having the time. So many games now based on cards & other gimmicks. Dip was not considered a wargame due to its total lack of realism (4.9 on a scale of 10 at the time which was generous. Average 6.5 or so). Games like Frederick the Great & Panzerarmee Afrika came out in S&T as mag games - unreal! Community (non-dip) in the 100s of thousands not the 10s of thousands. No long-timer would ever make such a point. Your past is not the true past. Last line dead wrong as SSI computer wargames even have not been surpassed today for realism/quality. Better graphics mean zip. |
| DC489 Camus Austria EoGS - Cartesian (Jul 09, 2014, 2:58 am) |
[Reply] |
| DC489 Camus Austria EoGS - AusBear (Jul 08, 2014, 9:43 pm) |
Hello everyone.
Good game - had a great time.
Pat, I had promised to help you in the Greece at the end of your run, but had a change of heart. I typed and thought I'd sent the email to you well ahead of the deadline, but alas, I found the draft still in my outbox after the season was adjudicated. Very sorry about that as it was not intentionally a stab.
Dan, had lots of fun with you as an "almost ally". I kept the Adriatic a DMZ as promised. Thanks for the strudel.
Simon... great game. The trick is to know when to stab first, and you were better at that than me. Still, it helped me reach my objective of not taking the wooden spoon on my return after well over 20 years. I do regret the DIAS and wished the game had longer to play out either to your victory or demise.
Bret, shame about the DIAS. I had hoped to let your fleet in and start working together on the Rusky in the south.
Buck, we didn't do much against or for each other, but I had your back all the way.
Scott, thanks for your EoGS. Lessons about whom to trust are very interesting in this game. But still you cobbled us together into a draw which is better than defeat by a long way.
And lastly, and certainly not the least... John, THANK YOU for your time and efforts in adjudicating. I very much appreciated all your work for us and for providing me with guidance in the early game on technical matters.
Kind regards to all.
Andrew.
Date: Tue, 8 Jul 2014 18:55:00 +0100
Subject: DC489 Camus Austria EoGS
From: cartesian.i(at)gmail.com
To: slangers(at)me.com; dandip2011(at)gmail.com; patrickccloutier(at)gmail.com; bpollack92(at)gmail.com; scott.troemel(at)yahoo.com; hamilf6024(at)gmail.com; andrewkrobertson(at)hotmail.com
CC: kielmarch(at)hotmail.com; mike(at)fuzzylogicllc.com; dc489(at)diplomaticcorp.com
Dan's EOG Camus
Hi everyone,
I said once I was confirmed eliminated I would be sending out an eog. So here it is.
At the start I was just trying not to be hit by everyone when Simon asked for help dispatching Turkey. I knew about Simons three Russia solo record, and started telling people about that, but I did not make it clear enough to people that he was a BIG threat.
Italy decided to attack me a bit early, so I had a bit of a problem, and with Turkey preparing for an attack on me Simon was my only friend. We worked a bit on Turkey but Italy's move to Boh took me by surprise. 02 was not a brilliant year and with that position my life was over as I knew it. So I just decided to ask Simon to help me disrupt Italian attacks, in return for me helping him get the solo. He lied and then I was dead. There was just me trying to kill R as much as possible after that.
So there's my eog.
It's been fun,
Dan[Reply] |
| DC489 Russian Game End Statement - Cartesian (Jul 08, 2014, 4:25 pm) |
[Reply] |
| Turkey EOG DC489 - Cartesian (Jul 08, 2014, 4:23 pm) |
[Reply] |
| DC489 Russian Game End Statement - Cartesian (Jul 08, 2014, 4:22 pm) |
[Reply] |
| A Call to Arms! - Sean2010 (Jul 08, 2014, 3:10 pm) |
I personally start every game with the intention to solo. I never set out to split with anyone, and consider it a grudging last resort.
Solo should be what we as players strive for. Shared Monarchies should be a last resort.
If everyone were to adopt a drawist outlook, games would be horribly boring. Carebearism.
Shared Monarchism certainly can develop into carebearism, and this mostly centers upon players viewing their career reputation of their playing style more important, or otherwise prune to play the last game opposed to a new game. The most important reputation is a player's dependenability to submit orders, and one really shouldn't strive to becoming predictable.
That's why the sometimes voiced sentiment of "I'm working towards a draw, but will go for the solo if the opportunity arises" has got it all backwards.
I agree. If you're working towards a draw, you're inevitably not only not looking for a solo; you're working against yourself. Solos take work and rarely if ever grants an opportunity by chance; it truly does take work and improvising to accomplish.[Reply] |
| DC489 Russian Game End Statement - packrat (Jul 08, 2014, 3:10 pm) |
[Reply] |
| Turkey EOG DC489 - BaronVonPWN (Jul 08, 2014, 2:26 pm) |
[Reply] |
| Turkey EOG DC489 (dc489) Cartesian Jul 08, 04:23 pm |
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| DC489 Camus Austria EoGS - Cartesian (Jul 08, 2014, 12:55 pm) |
[Reply] |
| DC489 Camus Austria EoGS (dc489) AusBear Jul 08, 09:43 pm |
Hello everyone.
Good game - had a great time.
Pat, I had promised to help you in the Greece at the end of your run, but had a change of heart. I typed and thought I'd sent the email to you well ahead of the deadline, but alas, I found the draft still in my outbox after the season was adjudicated. Very sorry about that as it was not intentionally a stab.
Dan, had lots of fun with you as an "almost ally". I kept the Adriatic a DMZ as promised. Thanks for the strudel.
Simon... great game. The trick is to know when to stab first, and you were better at that than me. Still, it helped me reach my objective of not taking the wooden spoon on my return after well over 20 years. I do regret the DIAS and wished the game had longer to play out either to your victory or demise.
Bret, shame about the DIAS. I had hoped to let your fleet in and start working together on the Rusky in the south.
Buck, we didn't do much against or for each other, but I had your back all the way.
Scott, thanks for your EoGS. Lessons about whom to trust are very interesting in this game. But still you cobbled us together into a draw which is better than defeat by a long way.
And lastly, and certainly not the least... John, THANK YOU for your time and efforts in adjudicating. I very much appreciated all your work for us and for providing me with guidance in the early game on technical matters.
Kind regards to all.
Andrew.
Date: Tue, 8 Jul 2014 18:55:00 +0100
Subject: DC489 Camus Austria EoGS
From: cartesian.i(at)gmail.com
To: slangers(at)me.com; dandip2011(at)gmail.com; patrickccloutier(at)gmail.com; bpollack92(at)gmail.com; scott.troemel(at)yahoo.com; hamilf6024(at)gmail.com; andrewkrobertson(at)hotmail.com
CC: kielmarch(at)hotmail.com; mike(at)fuzzylogicllc.com; dc489(at)diplomaticcorp.com
Dan's EOG Camus
Hi everyone,
I said once I was confirmed eliminated I would be sending out an eog. So here it is.
At the start I was just trying not to be hit by everyone when Simon asked for help dispatching Turkey. I knew about Simons three Russia solo record, and started telling people about that, but I did not make it clear enough to people that he was a BIG threat.
Italy decided to attack me a bit early, so I had a bit of a problem, and with Turkey preparing for an attack on me Simon was my only friend. We worked a bit on Turkey but Italy's move to Boh took me by surprise. 02 was not a brilliant year and with that position my life was over as I knew it. So I just decided to ask Simon to help me disrupt Italian attacks, in return for me helping him get the solo. He lied and then I was dead. There was just me trying to kill R as much as possible after that.
So there's my eog.
It's been fun,
Dan |
| DC489 Camus Austria EoGS (dc489) Cartesian Jul 09, 02:58 am |
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| DC489 Russian Game End Statement - Slangers (Jul 08, 2014, 12:26 pm) |
So, peace at last…
When I started this game I was hoping to play in a different style to my usual and from the outset I was looking to be aggressive. Turkey made a fatal mistake at the beginning which played into my objective. From the first season more or less, Patrick's fate was sealed and happily, although Dan had noticed my previous successes as Russia, Austria seemed happy to be my ally in the Balkans.
I struck up a good relationship with Andrew from the start and it soon became clear that an early stab on Austria would be likely to work well for me, so I sprang my nasty surprise before I had finished Turkey off properly. Thus, early in the game I was in a dominant position and the notion of running some sort of blitzkrieg assault came into my brain.
To the north, the ever suspicious Scott was working cautiously with me. It seemed that England and Germany had taken an instant dislike to each other and I played on that. Buck allowed me to move into Sweden in 1901 for which I was enormously grateful, but I then let him down immediately by assisting England into Denmark. This was a tactic to keep Scott sweet for long enough to be in position to attack Norway. Blitzkrieg tactics need no allies.
I managed to talk Scott and Andrew into adopting positions that favoured me. Andrew moved west and built fleets to attack France and Scott locked into war with Germany. I attacked both of them and did Italy serious damage in the process. The attack on England was botched though- I went too early and that cost me the win to some extent. I could never hurt Scott hard enough and didn't have the fleets to be able to break out of Scandinavia. It was a gamble that didn't work out. I could have left the attack on England for a year or two, but the worry was that my attack on Italy would trigger retribution from Scott after all.
I had hopes of winning this one, but in the end I couldn't see a way of getting beyond 15-16 centres. The last two or three required my southern fleets to break out and fight their way through the Med. That would have taken years. England, Germany, France and Italy formed a good alliance to prevent the solo and although I tried many times to break that alliance, they stuck together admirably. None of my weasel words could break the impassive French leadership. An attempt to eliminate Germany in the last year (which was an honest bid for a 4 way rather than 5 way draw- not an attempt to win) seemed to appeal to Scott, but Bret wouldn't go with it.
I know that Scott is about to tell me how I could have won the game. I refute any suggestion that I have blown it. With 3 Russian solos behind me, I think I know what I am doing. The centre was locked up and my fleets were tied up. One option was to abandon Norway and get more power onto the Baltic coast. I toyed with that, but there was no obvious means of getting into Berlin with so many units concentrated in the area.
Thanks to John for running a tight ship as GM. Running a game is never easy and this one went along smoothly with no major hiccups. Good job!
Thanks for the game everyone. I think it will be my last for a while- time for a little rest.
Best wishes
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