| DC309 Winter 1904 delay - mtombu (Jun 06, 2010, 10:02 am) |
Hey All,
In the hecticness of the move, I forgot to adjudicate Winter. I'll do so tomorrow at 9 pm. I've had spotty internet access, so if you sent me adjustments (AI) and I did not confirm them, please resend. Also, I'm going to push Spring 1905 til the 16th.
Sorry for the delays. Marrying/moving took more energy than expected.
Best,
Mike[Reply] |
| DC309 Winter 1904 delay (dc309) TheWhiteWolf Jun 06, 11:56 am |
In my experience, both things always do... 
From: mike Tombu <mtombu(at)gmail.com>
Sorry for the delays. Marrying/moving took more energy than expected.
|
| dc330: The powers are assigned! - dknemeyer (Jun 06, 2010, 1:59 am) |
Greetings Everyone,
I am pleased to announce that all bids are in and here are our seven
great powers!
Britain - sunchung/Sun Chung/sun.chung(at)gmail.com - 61 points (other
bids: G29, P3, I2, T2, U2, F1)
France - DrSwordopolis/Nick Powell/nick.s.powell(at)gmail.com - 40 points
(other bids: I22, U13, B12, P9, T3, G1)
Germany - charlesf/Charles Feaux de la Croix/charlesf(at)web.de - 80
points (other bids: F8, I4, P3, U2, B2, T1)
Italy - raistlin/David Gould/davidchegould(at)bigpond.com - 70 points
(other bids: P20, U5, G2, B1, F1, T1)
Poland - smileyrob/Robert Stein/smileyrob68(at)gmail.com - 14 points
(other bids: B14, F14, G14, I14, T14, U14)
Turkey - Wladimir7/Wladimir Mysonski/wmysonski(at)gmail.com - 22 points
(other bids: U23, I20, B17, G15, F1, P1)
USSR - Nitsch/Karsten Nitsch/karsten.nitsch(at)gmx.de - 40 points (other
bids: B40, P10, T5, G3, I1, F1)
Everyone received their first pick, except for Wladimir who received
his second - and he originally had Turkey as his first pick but made a
late change! Also, Robert gave "no preference" so he did not
technically *have* a preferred first pick.
Only one player, Charles, bid the maximum 80 points on a single power.
There were no tie bids and thus no tiebreakers. At least for this
game, 40 was the magic number as everyone who bid 40 or more on a
great power got their first choice!
Now, here is a bit of nerdery around the bidding:
Most Points Spent in Bidding
(this is simply adding up the total points spent on each great power)
Britain - 148
Germany - 144
Italy - 133
USSR - 99
France - 66
Poland - 60
Turkey - 48
Average Rated in Bidding
(giving one point for the great power a person bid the most on, down
to seven points for the great power bid the least on, seeing which
were generally more desired)
USSR - 23/7
Italy - 24.5/7
Britain - 26/7
Poland - 27.5/7
Germany - 28/7
France - 33/7
Turkey - 34/7
I tend to think the second list, the average rated, is the more
accurate indicator of popularity as it represents each player's 1-n
list of most to least desirable and essentially ignores specific
bidding strategies. Synthesizing the two lists together I might
suggest Britain was the most popular overall choice, followed by some
combination of Italy, Germany and the USSR. Poland was perhaps next on
its own followed by France and Turkey as the laggards. Turkey in
particular surprised me, as that power was part of a draw in the
similar 1926 variant and ran out to a big lead in the other playtest
running of this 1936 variant.
Now that the power selection is settled you may diplome immediately!
Here are our next, upcoming deadlines:
FRIDAY JUNE 11, 5 PM ET (GMT +5) - Preliminary Spring 1936 orders
TUESDAY JUNE 15, 5 PM ET (GMT +5) - Final Spring 1936 orders
THURSDAY JUNE 17, 5 PM ET (GMT +5) - Summer 1936 Retreats (if necessary)
This same Friday/Tuesday/Thursday schedule will govern our game each
week until it is over or there are unusual circumstances that result
in a change or delay.
Let me STRONGLY, STRONGLY encourage everyone to submit Preliminary
Orders by the Friday before the final orders are due. So long as they
are submitted by the preliminary deadline I will go over them
carefully and ask the player to clarify any seeming errors, mis-
orders, missing units, and the like. This is doubly important because
I am going to be brutal about processing orders each season EXACTLY as
they are submitted, without exception. Thus the only chance you have
for me to be your "safety net" is to get some prelims in the week
before. Just over the last two weeks I've had two devastating mis-
orders in two games I am playing in, one of which crippled my position
to the point where I will soon be eliminated. Take advantage of the
second pair of eyes and get in some prelims! You can change them as
much as you want before the final deadline, but this gives you some
security in case you forget or are busy later.
I'm really looking forward to this game. As you may be aware I am
playing in another 1936 playtest, dc319. That game is using an
experimental solo threshold of 15 SC. Only in our third year, that
threshold is having a huge impact on the game. For this playtest we
are running the game with 18 SC as the solo threshold. Only time will
tell how this instantiation of the game plays out with the harder-to-
achieve victory condition.
This should be a lot of fun. Good hunting to you all!
Dirk[Reply] |
| 1648 091010: Game Status - dknemeyer (Jun 06, 2010, 1:09 am) |
LOL!
Actually, I was holding out for a vote of northern powers - I very
much want an EFP.
Charles, can you please propose a...
Ah, screw it. I'm lying. Never mind.
Dirk
On Jun 5, 2010, at 6:37 PM, Harvey Morris wrote:
Nigs -
I like your idea.
Charles, please note - I formally propose an English-French-Polish-
Turkish draw, and vote YES.
Harvey
On Sat, Jun 5, 2010 at 2:37 PM, Nigel PHILLIPS
wrote:
Harvey, you could be right. Or maybe its that the King of England
and Scotland does so, rather than the Lord Protector.
However, I think it may be a more self-castigating flagellating
approach: a English-French-Polish-Turkish draw. (Which would be ok
by me.)
I mean His Most Catholic majesty helping the Turks into Rome - that
must be more than 3 hail Marys and an Our Father. Excluding himself
from the draw seems like the penance he wants.
Nigs
Date: Sat, 5 Jun 2010 13:45:03 -0700
Subject: Re: 1648 091010: Game Status
From: hmtucaz(at)gmail.com
To: nephilli99(at)hotmail.com
CC: dirk(at)knemeyer.com; charlesf(at)web.de; mrh(at)panix.com; jmsaralegui(at)gmail.com
; aislattery(at)aol.com; dc279(at)diplomaticcorp.com
I believe that Dirk's "hidden proposal" is the agreement that
England takes the solo.
All in favor please submit your YES vote to Charles.
Harvey
On Sat, Jun 5, 2010 at 12:08 PM, Nigel PHILLIPS > wrote:
What we need to deal with this coyness is ... the Spanish
Inquisition, Armed with the comfy chair, the cup of coffee, and a
fanatical devotion to the Pope, we could find the magical missing
proposal.
Nigs
CC: nephilli99(at)hotmail.com; charlesf(at)web.de; mrh(at)panix.com; jmsaralegui(at)gmail.com
; aislattery(at)aol.com; dc279(at)diplomaticcorp.com
From: dirk(at)knemeyer.com
To: hmtucaz(at)gmail.com
Subject: Re: 1648 091010: Game Status
Date: Sat, 5 Jun 2010 13:51:59 -0400
Hi Everyone,
While I would also like this game to end I will not vote for any of
the proposed draws thus far. I am hereby proposing and will vote yes
for a DIAS. There are a couple of other combinations I would vote
yes
to that I do not participate in but haven't seen them proposed
yet. I
will not propose them as it will reveal my intent to all should the
game continue but would certainly vote a private yes if they come
up.
Dirk
On Jun 5, 2010, at 1:13 PM, Harvey Morris wrote:
> Guys -
>
> My two cents on all this. I have already indicated to Charles that
> I vote YES on either a Poland-France-Turkey draw or a Poland-
Turkey
> draw. In fact, I am prepared to vote YES on any draw proposal
> (Charles, please consider this a standing YES vote on any
proposal,
> unless I specifically vote NO on something). As I said to one of
my
> college girlfriends (oh, those many, many years ago), "This was
> great for a long time, but now it isn't; so bye bye baby".
>
> Regards to all,
> Harvey
>
> On Sat, Jun 5, 2010 at 9:54 AM, Nigel PHILLIPS
> wrote:
> Charles,
>
> given the likelihood that there would be a significant delay in
> recruiting a third austria, could we please have a vote on a draw
> proposal or proposals by the current players?
>
> I suggest three way Poland-Turkey-France, given that these three
> countries are of a similar size, and significantly larger than the
> remaining three. It would be nice to draw the game to an end,
rather
> than await a newcomer to a complex situation.
>
> Nigs
>
>
>
> From: charlesf(at)web.de
> To: mrh(at)panix.com; hmtucaz(at)gmail.com; nephilli99(at)hotmail.com; jmsaralegui(at)gmail.com
> ; dirk(at)knemeyer.com; AiSlattery(at)aol.com; dc279(at)diplomaticcorp.com
> Subject: 1648 091010: Game Status
> Date: Sat, 5 Jun 2010 12:49:19 +0200
>
>
> Hi guys,
>
> I'm afraid Mike failed to meet the deadline. This means I shall
have
> to find a replacement player.
>
> I appreciate Mike stepping in as a replacement and regret having
to
> take this step.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Charles
>
> Get a free e-mail account with Hotmail. Sign-up now.
>
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| 1648 091010: Game Status - hmtucaz (Jun 05, 2010, 5:37 pm) |
Nigs -
I like your idea.
Charles, please note - I formally propose an English-French-Polish-Turkish draw, and vote YES.
Harvey
On Sat, Jun 5, 2010 at 2:37 PM, Nigel PHILLIPS <nephilli99(at)hotmail.com> wrote:
Harvey, you could be right. Or maybe its that the King of England and Scotland does so, rather than the Lord Protector.
However, I think it may be a more self-castigating flagellating approach: a English-French-Polish-Turkish draw. (Which would be ok by me.)
I mean His Most Catholic majesty helping the Turks into Rome - that must be more than 3 hail Marys and an Our Father. Excluding himself from the draw seems like the penance he wants.
Nigs
Date: Sat, 5 Jun 2010 13:45:03 -0700
Subject: Re: 1648 091010: Game Status
From: hmtucaz(at)gmail.com
To: nephilli99(at)hotmail.com
CC: dirk(at)knemeyer.com; charlesf(at)web.de; mrh(at)panix.com; jmsaralegui(at)gmail.com; aislattery(at)aol.com; dc279(at)diplomaticcorp.com
I believe that Dirk's "hidden proposal" is the agreement that England takes the solo.
All in favor please submit your YES vote to Charles.
Harvey
On Sat, Jun 5, 2010 at 12:08 PM, Nigel PHILLIPS <nephilli99(at)hotmail.com> wrote:
What we need to deal with this coyness is ... the Spanish Inquisition, Armed with the comfy chair, the cup of coffee, and a fanatical devotion to the Pope, we could find the magical missing proposal.
Nigs
> CC: nephilli99(at)hotmail.com; charlesf(at)web.de; mrh(at)panix.com; jmsaralegui(at)gmail.com; aislattery(at)aol.com; dc279(at)diplomaticcorp.com
> From: dirk(at)knemeyer.com
> To: hmtucaz(at)gmail.com
> Subject: Re: 1648 091010: Game Status[Reply] |
| 1648 091010: Game Status - Nigs (Jun 05, 2010, 4:37 pm) |
Harvey, you could be right. Or maybe its that the King of England and Scotland does so, rather than the Lord Protector.
However, I think it may be a more self-castigating flagellating approach: a English-French-Polish-Turkish draw. (Which would be ok by me.)
I mean His Most Catholic majesty helping the Turks into Rome - that must be more than 3 hail Marys and an Our Father. Excluding himself from the draw seems like the penance he wants.
Nigs
Date: Sat, 5 Jun 2010 13:45:03 -0700
Subject: Re: 1648 091010: Game Status
From: hmtucaz(at)gmail.com
To: nephilli99(at)hotmail.com
CC: dirk(at)knemeyer.com; charlesf(at)web.de; mrh(at)panix.com; jmsaralegui(at)gmail.com; aislattery(at)aol.com; dc279(at)diplomaticcorp.com
I believe that Dirk's "hidden proposal" is the agreement that England takes the solo.
All in favor please submit your YES vote to Charles.
Harvey
On Sat, Jun 5, 2010 at 12:08 PM, Nigel PHILLIPS <nephilli99(at)hotmail.com> wrote:
What we need to deal with this coyness is ... the Spanish Inquisition, Armed with the comfy chair, the cup of coffee, and a fanatical devotion to the Pope, we could find the magical missing proposal.
Nigs
> CC: nephilli99(at)hotmail.com; charlesf(at)web.de; mrh(at)panix.com; jmsaralegui(at)gmail.com; aislattery(at)aol.com; dc279(at)diplomaticcorp.com
> From: dirk(at)knemeyer.com
> To: hmtucaz(at)gmail.com
> Subject: Re: 1648 091010: Game Status[Reply] |
| 1648 091010: Game Status - hmtucaz (Jun 05, 2010, 3:45 pm) |
I believe that Dirk's "hidden proposal" is the agreement that England takes the solo.
All in favor please submit your YES vote to Charles.
Harvey
On Sat, Jun 5, 2010 at 12:08 PM, Nigel PHILLIPS <nephilli99(at)hotmail.com> wrote:
What we need to deal with this coyness is ... the Spanish Inquisition, Armed with the comfy chair, the cup of coffee, and a fanatical devotion to the Pope, we could find the magical missing proposal.
Nigs
> CC: nephilli99(at)hotmail.com; charlesf(at)web.de; mrh(at)panix.com; jmsaralegui(at)gmail.com; aislattery(at)aol.com; dc279(at)diplomaticcorp.com
> From: dirk(at)knemeyer.com
> To: hmtucaz(at)gmail.com
> Subject: Re: 1648 091010: Game Status[Reply] |
| 1648 091010: Game Status - Nigs (Jun 05, 2010, 2:08 pm) |
What we need to deal with this coyness is ... the Spanish Inquisition, Armed with the comfy chair, the cup of coffee, and a fanatical devotion to the Pope, we could find the magical missing proposal.
Nigs
> CC: nephilli99(at)hotmail.com; charlesf(at)web.de; mrh(at)panix.com; jmsaralegui(at)gmail.com; aislattery(at)aol.com; dc279(at)diplomaticcorp.com
> From: dirk(at)knemeyer.com
> To: hmtucaz(at)gmail.com
> Subject: Re: 1648 091010: Game Status[Reply] |
| 1648 091010: Game Status - dknemeyer (Jun 05, 2010, 12:51 pm) |
Hi Everyone,
While I would also like this game to end I will not vote for any of
the proposed draws thus far. I am hereby proposing and will vote yes
for a DIAS. There are a couple of other combinations I would vote yes
to that I do not participate in but haven't seen them proposed yet. I
will not propose them as it will reveal my intent to all should the
game continue but would certainly vote a private yes if they come up.
Dirk
On Jun 5, 2010, at 1:13 PM, Harvey Morris wrote:
Guys -
My two cents on all this. I have already indicated to Charles that
I vote YES on either a Poland-France-Turkey draw or a Poland-Turkey
draw. In fact, I am prepared to vote YES on any draw proposal
(Charles, please consider this a standing YES vote on any proposal,
unless I specifically vote NO on something). As I said to one of my
college girlfriends (oh, those many, many years ago), "This was
great for a long time, but now it isn't; so bye bye baby".
Regards to all,
Harvey
On Sat, Jun 5, 2010 at 9:54 AM, Nigel PHILLIPS
wrote:
Charles,
given the likelihood that there would be a significant delay in
recruiting a third austria, could we please have a vote on a draw
proposal or proposals by the current players?
I suggest three way Poland-Turkey-France, given that these three
countries are of a similar size, and significantly larger than the
remaining three. It would be nice to draw the game to an end, rather
than await a newcomer to a complex situation.
Nigs
From: charlesf(at)web.de
To: mrh(at)panix.com; hmtucaz(at)gmail.com; nephilli99(at)hotmail.com; jmsaralegui(at)gmail.com
; dirk(at)knemeyer.com; AiSlattery(at)aol.com; dc279(at)diplomaticcorp.com
Subject: 1648 091010: Game Status
Date: Sat, 5 Jun 2010 12:49:19 +0200
Hi guys,
I'm afraid Mike failed to meet the deadline. This means I shall have
to find a replacement player.
I appreciate Mike stepping in as a replacement and regret having to
take this step.
Cheers,
Charles
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| 1648 091010: Game Status - hmtucaz (Jun 05, 2010, 12:13 pm) |
Guys -
My two cents on all this. I have already indicated to Charles that I vote YES on either a Poland-France-Turkey draw or a Poland-Turkey draw. In fact, I am prepared to vote YES on any draw proposal (Charles, please consider this a standing YES vote on any proposal, unless I specifically vote NO on something). As I said to one of my college girlfriends (oh, those many, many years ago), "This was great for a long time, but now it isn't; so bye bye baby".
Regards to all,
Harvey
On Sat, Jun 5, 2010 at 9:54 AM, Nigel PHILLIPS <nephilli99(at)hotmail.com> wrote:
Charles,
given the likelihood that there would be a significant delay in recruiting a third austria, could we please have a vote on a draw proposal or proposals by the current players?
I suggest three way Poland-Turkey-France, given that these three countries are of a similar size, and significantly larger than the remaining three. It would be nice to draw the game to an end, rather than await a newcomer to a complex situation.
Nigs
From: charlesf(at)web.de
To: mrh(at)panix.com; hmtucaz(at)gmail.com; nephilli99(at)hotmail.com; jmsaralegui(at)gmail.com; dirk(at)knemeyer.com; AiSlattery(at)aol.com; dc279(at)diplomaticcorp.com
Subject: 1648 091010: Game Status
Date: Sat, 5 Jun 2010 12:49:19 +0200
Hi guys,
I'm afraid Mike failed to meet the deadline. This
means I shall have to find a replacement player.
I appreciate Mike stepping in as a replacement and regret having to take
this step.
Cheers,
Charles
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| 1648 091010: Game Status - Nigs (Jun 05, 2010, 11:54 am) |
Charles,
given the likelihood that there would be a significant delay in recruiting a third austria, could we please have a vote on a draw proposal or proposals by the current players?
I suggest three way Poland-Turkey-France, given that these three countries are of a similar size, and significantly larger than the remaining three. It would be nice to draw the game to an end, rather than await a newcomer to a complex situation.
Nigs
From: charlesf(at)web.de
To: mrh(at)panix.com; hmtucaz(at)gmail.com; nephilli99(at)hotmail.com; jmsaralegui(at)gmail.com; dirk(at)knemeyer.com; AiSlattery(at)aol.com; dc279(at)diplomaticcorp.com
Subject: 1648 091010: Game Status
Date: Sat, 5 Jun 2010 12:49:19 +0200
Hi guys,
I'm afraid Mike failed to meet the deadline. This
means I shall have to find a replacement player.
I appreciate Mike stepping in as a replacement and regret having to take
this step.
Cheers,
Charles
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| DC313 Builds - Samnuva (Jun 05, 2010, 11:39 am) |
Sorry about that. I thought the email had been sent, but it was for another game.
Italy Builds A Rom
Turkey Builds Army Con[Reply] |
| 1648 091010: Game Status - offdisc (Jun 05, 2010, 7:49 am) |
It's been fun guys. Sorry that I was about 2 hours late in getting my moves to Charles. I was busy at work prepping for a huge roll-out, and I never hit the Send button on the email with my retreat and build.
Good Luck with the rest of the game.
Mike
---------
"Sit Long, Talk Much, Laugh Often" -- anon
"Shared Pain is lessened, Shared Joy is increased" --- Spider Robinson
2010/6/5 Charles Féaux de la Croix <charlesf(at)web.de>
Hi guys,
I'm afraid Mike failed to meet the deadline. This
means I shall have to find a replacement player.
I appreciate Mike stepping in as a replacement and regret having to take
this step.
Cheers,
Charles[Reply] |
| DC279 needs a new Archduke! - charlesf (Jun 05, 2010, 7:04 am) |
Hi guys,
DC279 - a 1648 variant game - needs a new Austrian replacements following the 1659 Fall Moves.
Austria's a 7 SC power currently and may well expand on that total, next to perhaps regaining the Imperial throne. It's a sound position.
For info on the variant, see: http://www.dipwiki.com/index.php?title=1648
For the latest map, check out DC279's game page.
If interested, please let me know. I'd be according you ample time to negotiate and submit your retreat/build.[Reply] |
| DC279 needs a new Archduke! (Light Brigade) Godzilla Jun 14, 07:23 am |
I might be interested if you still need a replacement. I've not played this variant before, although I have experience with other variants.
How long are deadlines? |
| Reply notification (Light Brigade) charlesf Jun 14, 12:21 pm |
Hi, thanks for your interest. I'm no longer in need
of a replacement though.
Cheers,
Charles |
| 1648 091010: Game Status - charlesf (Jun 05, 2010, 5:49 am) |
Hi guys,
I'm afraid Mike failed to meet the deadline. This
means I shall have to find a replacement player.
I appreciate Mike stepping in as a replacement and regret having to take
this step.
Cheers,
Charles[Reply] |
| Dc 315 Winter 1910 Adjudication - AlanRFarrington (Jun 04, 2010, 11:57 pm) |
Hey All,
Only half the orders come in, so we'll march into Spring, and see if this game will wind up anytime soon as england pull sto within two but stalemate lines start to go up.
Next Deadline:
Spring 1911 is due Monday, June 7th at Midnight GMT (7:00pm
EST)
Orders:
England:
Build A London
Turkey:
Build waived
Ownership of Supply Centers:
Austria: Budapest, Greece, Serbia, Trieste, Vienna.
England: Belgium, Berlin, Brest, Denmark, Edinburgh, Holland,
Kiel, Liverpool, London, Moscow, Munich, Norway,
Paris, St Petersburg, Sweden, Warsaw.
France: Marseilles, Naples, Portugal, Rome, Spain, Tunis,
Venice.
Turkey: Ankara, Bulgaria, Constantinople, Rumania,
Sevastopol, Smyrna.
Players:
Austria: Jonathan Nichol ( jonathan(at)deepsheep.com )
England: Derek Eiler ( derekthefeared2(at)yahoo.com )
France: Maria Montes ( MariaMontes1990(at)hotmail.es )
Germany: Joe Payne ( josepayne(at)gmail.com )
[Eliminated]
Italy: John Robillard ( john.robillard(at)telia.com
)
[Eliminated]
Russia: Max Victory ( Maxatrest(at)yahoo.co.uk
) [Eliminated]
Turkey: Dale Grantham (
dmg(at)earthlink.net )
Thanks,
Alan Farrington
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| dc307 ~ Orient Express - sgttodd (Jun 04, 2010, 10:00 pm) |
The deadline for Sprint1905orders is Wednesday, June 9 (at) 2359 UTC.
Adjustment orders for Winter of 1904.
Indonesia: Build A Borneo.
Persia: NBR Remove A Syria.
Russia: Build A Moscow.
Russia: Build F Sevastopol(wc).
Unit locations:
India: F Arabia(wc), F Bangladesh, F Bay of Bengal, A Kunlun, A
Pakistan, F Red Sea, F Sri Lanka, A Tibet.
Indonesia: A Borneo, F Burma, F Central Indian Ocean, A Chongqing, F
Hong Kong, F Philippines, F South China Sea, F Seychelles, F Sumatra, F
Thai Sea.
Japan: F Hokkaido, F Honshu, F Shanghai.
Persia: F Oman, F Persian Gulf.
Russia: A Balkans, F Caspian Sea, A Caucasus, A Iran, A Iraq, A
Moscow, F Sevastopol(wc), F St. Petersburg, F Turkey.
Siberia: F East China Sea, A Irkutsk, A Korea, A Manchuria, A
Novosibirsk, F Sea of Okhotsk, F Vladivostok.
files: http://mainecav.org/diplomacy
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| DC-322 Fall 827 - TheWhiteWolf (Jun 04, 2010, 9:50 pm) |
Guys, Thanks for getting all your orders in on time. The show tried to be suspenseful, but now I'm a little disappointed that they didn't just cram it into a two hour block. The cliffhanger effect may be losing it's power over me.  The Gaels and Norse each take a pounding this turn, with the Bretons feeling a small measure of their pain. Plenty of retreats to go around, so we'll have a mini-season
before we can move into a tumultuous Winter.
Players:
Anglos Steve "BD" Emmert <steve.emmert(at)cox.net>Bretons Darren McAdam-OConnell <dmcaoc(at)gmail.com>Scots Mike Morris
<mikemorris101(at)yahoo.com>Danes Frank Bielschowsky <dipcorp.player(at)gmail.com>Gaels Scott "Packrat" Troemel <brn2dip(at)yahoo.com>Norse Benjamin Hester <screwtape777(at)gmail.com>Swedes Chris "DQ" Martin <dance.scholar(at)gmail.com>
Orders:
Gaels: F Atlantic Ocean Supports A Sussex - CornwallA Chester - MerciaF Dyfed Hold (*Dislodged*)F Isle of Man Supports F Ulster (*Dislodged*)F Ulster Supports F Isle of Man (*Dislodged*)
Scots: F Cait - Dal RiadaA Connaught Supports F Hebridean Sea - UlsterF Hebridean Sea - UlsterA Lancaster - Isle of ManF Moray Firth - ZetlandA Strathclyde Supports A Lancaster - Isle of Man
Bretons: F Bristol Channel - DyfedA Gwynned Supports F Bristol Channel - DyfedA Hamptonshire HoldA Mercia - Middle Anglia (*Dislodged*)F Somerset(sc) Supports A Hamptonshire
Norse: F Jelling(ec) Supports F Bay of Reric - Ribe (*Dislodged*)F North Sea - West Frisian CoastF Rogaland Coast - North SeaA Roskilde Supports F Jelling(ec) (*Disbanded*)F Skagerrak - LindholmF Vestfold - Skagerrak
AngloSaxons: F Deira HoldF English Channel Convoys A Sussex - CornwallA Middle Anglia Supports A Chester - MerciaA Sussex - Cornwall
Danes: F Arhus Supports F Ribe - Jelling(ec)F Ribe - Jelling(ec)A Thuringia - AustrasiaF Viborg Supports F Ribe - Jelling(ec)
Swedes: F Baltic Sea - Bay of RericF Bay of Bothnia - Baltic SeaF Bay of Reric - RoskildeA Gotar -
AlvheimA Reric HoldF Skane Supports F Bay of Reric - Roskilde
Retreats:
Gaelic F Dyfed can retreat to Cardigan Bay, Gwent or OTB.Gaelic F Isle of Man can retreat to Douglas Bay, Manx Sea, North Channel, Pengwern, Ramsey Bay or OTB.Gaelic F Ulster can retreat to Manx Sea, Meath, North Channel or OTB.Breton A Mercia can retreat to Hwicce, Lindsey, Powys or OTB.Norse F Jelling(ec) can retreat to Kattegat or OTB.Norse A Roskilde has no retreats, disbanded.
Disposition (Units/SCs):
Gaels: (5/5)Armies - MerFleets - Ato, Dyf (pending retreat), Iom (pending retreat), Uls (pending retreat)
Scots: (6/6)Armies - Con, Iom, StrFleets - Dal, Uls, Zet
Bretons: (5/5)Armies - Gwy, Ham, Mer (pending retreat)Fleets - Dyf, Som(sc)
Norse: (6/5)Fleets - Lhm, Nth, Skg, Wfc, Jel(ec) (pending retreat)
AngloSaxons: (4/4)Armies - Cor, ManFleets - Ech, Dei
Danes: (5/4)Armies - AusFleets - Arh, Jel(ec), Vib
Swedes: (6/6)Armies - Alv, RerFleets - Bal, Bor, Ros, Skn
Deadline:Autumn 827 is due Monday, 7 June at 6pm EDT (10pm GMT).
Any questions or complaints, bring them to my attention as soon as possible.Maps and RealPolitik file are attached.
Cheers, Andy I'm a Firefly fan and proud! Read my fiction:
http://www.fanfiction.net/u/1369632/[Reply] |
| dc286 ~ Vista Seven - sgttodd (Jun 04, 2010, 9:50 pm) |
The proposed Draw Including All Survivors (DIAS) FAILED.
and so we continue...
The deadline for Winter 1909 adjustments is Monday, June 7 (at) 2359 UTC.
Retreat orders for Fall of 1909.
France: F Tunis - Western Mediterranean.
France: A Venice - Piedmont.
Unit locations:
Austria: F Albania, A Greece, A Trieste, A Vienna.
France: A Burgundy, A Finland, A Holland, F London, A Munich, F North
Sea, F Norway, A Piedmont, A Ruhr, A Tyrolia, F Tyrrhenian Sea, F
Western Mediterranean.
Germany: A Berlin, A Bohemia, F Denmark, A Kiel, A Silesia, F
Skagerrak, A St Petersburg, F Sweden.
Italy: F Tunis, A Venice.
Russia: A Bulgaria, A Galicia, F Ionian Sea, A Moscow, A Sevastopol, A
Ukraine.
Ownership of supply centers:
Austria: Budapest, Greece, Rumania, Serbia, Trieste, Vienna.
France: Belgium, Brest, Holland, Liverpool, London, Marseilles,
Munich, Norway, Paris, Portugal, Spain.
Germany: Berlin, Denmark, Edinburgh, Kiel, St Petersburg, Sweden,
Warsaw.
Italy: Naples, Rome, Tunis, Venice.
Russia: Ankara, Bulgaria, Constantinople, Moscow, Sevastopol, Smyrna.
Adjustments:
Austria: 6 Supply centers, 4 Units: Builds 1 unit.
France: 11 Supply centers, 12 Units: Removes 1 unit.
Germany: 7 Supply centers, 8 Units: Removes 1 unit.
Italy: 4 Supply centers, 2 Units: Builds 2 units.
Russia: 6 Supply centers, 6 Units.
files: http://mainecav.org/diplomacy[Reply] |
| (DC 326) Gumball - Winter 1902 Results - Corrino (Jun 04, 2010, 7:32 pm) |
Hi Players,
Thanks for getting your adjustments in on time.
Next deadline is Wednesday, June 9, at 8 pm Eastern US time. If I get seven sets marked FINAL by Tuesday, I may adjudicate early.
Adjustments for this Winter 1902:
England:
Build F Liverpool
Build F London
Germany:
Remove A Belgium
Italy:
Build F Naples
Russia:
Remove F Gulf of Bothnia
Turkey:
Build F Ankara
Have a good week-end!
Chris[Reply] |
| DC317; Enough already - packrat (Jun 04, 2010, 6:20 pm) |
Okay gents, I've had about enough of this nonsense and I'm reasonably sure Italy has as well.
Since Germany hasn't the balls to stand up to Russia nor has he the integrity to follow through
on agreements with others the outcome of this game is more or less a forgone conclusion; a
Russian solo.
I'm okay with a strong alliance, but Germany has all but given up here and the game is suffering
as a result.
Nigel - you have played this game in a manner keeping with how I see you as a diplomacy player,
and you have certainly earned the solo. However, if you are even half the player I believe you to
be I implore you to end this and end it now. You can take Denmark easily enough and I will even
support you by hitting YOR so it cannot support EDI in
place.
Each game I have played in recently has led me to question the caliber of the players here at DC. Sorry,
but that's how I see it. Sure, the group is intended to self regulate, but higher level players won't put up with
the nonsense that goes on here. I am unsure as to whether I will play another game here as time goes on.
As for our intrepid Germany, well, his name will go on a list that DC necessitated me putting together.
For all the time I player on Cat23 I never had to create a list of players to stay away from. DC gave
me that need.
Nigel - PLEASE - end this.[Reply] |
| DC317; Enough already (Winter Blitz) Douglas_E_Fresh Jun 07, 03:49 am |
Thanks for sharing your thoughts Packrat; yet another example of your considered, amiable and of course "Diplomatic" communication.
I am unsurprised that you consider yourself a higher level player when you can turn in such sweet prose every time.
For the record, Please feel free to add me to your blacklist, I am fairly certain it will not be required, as this game has also led me to the conclusion that I shall not be playing much Dip. I think I'll be sticking to GMing from now on
Best
D
On Sat, Jun 5, 2010 at 12:20 AM, Packrat <brn2dip(at)yahoo.com> wrote:
Okay gents, I've had about enough of this nonsense and I'm reasonably sure Italy has as well.
Since Germany hasn't the balls to stand up to Russia nor has he the integrity to follow through
on agreements with others the outcome of this game is more or less a forgone conclusion; a
Russian solo.
I'm okay with a strong alliance, but Germany has all but given up here and the game is suffering
as a result.
Nigel - you have played this game in a manner keeping with how I see you as a diplomacy player,
and you have certainly earned the solo. However, if you are even half the player I believe you to
be I implore you to end this and end it now. You can take Denmark easily enough and I will even
support you by hitting YOR so it cannot support EDI in
place.
Each game I have played in recently has led me to question the caliber of the players here at DC. Sorry,
but that's how I see it. Sure, the group is intended to self regulate, but higher level players won't put up with
the nonsense that goes on here. I am unsure as to whether I will play another game here as time goes on.
As for our intrepid Germany, well, his name will go on a list that DC necessitated me putting together.
For all the time I player on Cat23 I never had to create a list of players to stay away from. DC gave
me that need.
Nigel - PLEASE - end this. |
| DC317; Enough already (Winter Blitz) packrat Jun 07, 06:32 am |
Doug, et al,
I'm sure you would do well as a GM and I know DC could use another good GM on the roster. As
for my diplomatic communication - well - I've been considering my experiences here on DC and am
actually giving serious consideration to the fault being, in large part, mine. My gaming has been more
than a bit off for some time now and to the extent that the problem, whatever it is, lies (no pun intended)
with ME and not with some of the others.
Whatever the problem is I don't think it is the DC group either but it sure was easy to point the blame
there. Mike and others have worked long, hard, hours to bring this club up to what it is now and it can
only get better. I miss the public banter that was part of Cat23 but that is more
because I was too lazy
to go looking for it. I know I've mentioned it to Mike and there has always been a solution offered for
me to try.
With all that being said I have to figure out what my next move is going to be - in the big picture sense, not
in the 317 sense. There have been a lot of changes in RL that need my attention so I need to tend to those
as well.
Scott
From: Douglas Fresh <douglasefresh(at)googlemail.com>
To: Packrat <brn2dip(at)yahoo.com>
Cc: Nigel PHILLIPS <nephilli99(at)hotmail.com>; olson.gregoryscott(at)gmail.com;
dipknight(at)gmail.com; douglasefresh(at)gmail.com; dadidea(at)gmail.com; mdemagogue(at)gmail.com; phantomas13(at)orange.fr; blitz(at)diplomaticcorp.com; dc317(at)diplomaticcorp.com; Michael Sims <mike(at)fuzzylogicllc.net>
Sent: Mon, June 7, 2010 4:49:05 AM
Subject: Re: DC317; Enough already
Thanks for sharing your thoughts Packrat; yet another example of your considered, amiable and of course "Diplomatic" communication.
I am unsurprised that you consider yourself a higher level player when you can turn in such sweet prose every time.
For the record, Please feel free to add me to your blacklist, I am fairly certain it will not be required, as this game has also led me to the conclusion that I shall not be playing much Dip. I think I'll be sticking to GMing from now on
Best
D
On Sat, Jun 5, 2010 at 12:20 AM, Packrat <brn2dip(at)yahoo.com> wrote:
Okay gents, I've had about enough of this nonsense and I'm reasonably sure Italy has as well.
Since Germany hasn't the balls to stand up to Russia nor has he the integrity to follow through
on agreements with others the outcome of this game is more or less a forgone conclusion; a
Russian solo.
I'm okay with a strong alliance, but Germany has all but given up here and the game is suffering
as a result.
Nigel - you have played this game in a manner keeping with how I see you as a diplomacy player,
and you have certainly earned the solo. However, if you are even half the player I believe you to
be I implore you to end this and end it now. You can take Denmark easily enough and I will even
support you by hitting YOR so it cannot support EDI in
place.
Each game I have played in recently has led me to question the caliber of the players here at DC. Sorry,
but that's how I see it. Sure, the group is intended to self regulate, but higher level players won't put up with
the nonsense that goes on here. I am unsure as to whether I will play another game here as time goes on.
As for our intrepid Germany, well, his name will go on a list that DC necessitated me putting together.
For all the time I player on Cat23 I never had to create a list of players to stay away from. DC gave
me that need.
Nigel - PLEASE - end this. |
| DC329 COL F01 AT ALL TIMES THERE ARE BRITS IN FORE... - vegas_iwish (Jun 04, 2010, 6:18 pm) |
Not direct Gunga Din but the feel Bangkok proved a bit too foreign as no coast on the fleet move yields same to French. I know map doesn't say ec/wc but they exist nonetheless. Britain also struggles with Nippon, who otherwise just struggles as allows Russia to prosper. ADjs due 6/7/10. attaching files a prob for some reason but map & dpy in DC so set http://www.diplomaticcorp.com/game_page.php?game_id=dc329
Britain:
F aras - kar
A hyd - ben
F mal - ban (*Invalid Coast*)
A pun - kam
F reds - sud
F scs - for (*Bounce*)
China:
A kag - tas (*Bounce*)
A lan - chu
A mac - sha
A nan Supports A mac - sha
A yun - ass
France:
A cam - ban
A nsia - ran
F ton - ann
Japan:
F ecs - for (*Bounce*)
A kyo - vla (*Bounce*)
F okhs - sak
F soj Convoys A kyo - vla
Turkey:
A arm - tab
F meds - egy
F shi Hold
Holland:
F javs - suns
A sar Hold
F tims - gui
Russia:
A irk - vla (*Bounce*)
A ore - tas (*Bounce*)
F rum Hold
A seo - vla (*Bounce*)
F yels - fus
Adjustments:
Britain: Supp 11 Unit 6 Build 5
China: Supp 8 Unit 5 Build 3
France: Supp 5 Unit 3 Build 2
Japan: Supp 5 Unit 4 Build 1
Turkey: Supp 6 Unit 3 Build 3
Holland: Supp 5 Unit 3 Build 2
Russia: Supp 8 Unit 5 Build 3[Reply] |
| DC317; Winter 1910 Results - dipknight (Jun 04, 2010, 5:21 pm) |
GM's remarks:
I will be on business travel next week, again. It is unusual for me to travel this much; but, such is life.
Congratulations to the survivers for making it to year 11 of Round 2, Winter Blitz 2010!
The Players:
Austria Eliminated Winter 1904
England Eliminated Winter 1905
France packrat scott troemel brn2dip(at)yahoo.com
Germany Douglas_E_Fresh Douglas Fresh douglasefresh(at)gmail.com
Italy evapollo88 Greg Olson olson.gregoryscott(at)gmail.com
Russia Nigs Nigel Phillips nephilli99(at)hotmail.com
Turkey Eliminated Winter 1906
The Orders:
Austria:
Eliminated Winter 1904
England:
Eliminated Winter 1905
France:
No Orders Required
Germany:
No Orders Required
Italy:
No Orders Required
Russia:
Build F sev
Turkey:
Eliminated Winter 1906
Retreats:
None Required
Centers and Unit Positions:
Austria:
Eliminated Winter 1904
England:
Eliminated Winter 1905
France:
Centers (2) lvp, lon.
Units: F cly, F lon
Build/Disband: 0
Germany:
Centers (7): bel, ber, den, edi, hol, kie, mun.
Units: A bel, A boh, F edi, A hol, A mun, A ruh, A yor
Build/Disbands: 0
Italy:
Centers (9) bre, mar, nap, par, por, rom, spa, tun, ven.
Units: F adr, F aeg, A bur, F eng, F ion, F nao, A pic, A pie, A ven
Build/Disband: 0
Russia:
Centers (16) ank, bud, bul, con, gre, mos, nwy, rum, ser, sev, smy, stp, swe, tri, vie, war.
Units: F alb, A ank, A arm, A bul, F con, A fin, A gre, F nth, F nwy, F nwg, F sev, F smy, A swe, A tri, A trl, A vie
Build/Disband: 0
Turkey:
Eliminated Winter 1906
Deadline:
1911 Spring Orders: Friday; June 7, 24:00 Hrs GMT.
Maps of the Orders and Results; and, the dpy file are attached for your use.[Reply] |
| (DC 324) A Stab in the Dark - Spring 1906 Results - Corrino (Jun 04, 2010, 5:21 pm) |
Players,
The year 1906 opens with a bang. Many bangs in fact, and pretty much all of the activity was centered on three well-separated peninsulas.
The English and the Germans butt heads in Jutland. No one can claim the Danish province, but unfortunately Kiel is no longer a safe haven for the German fleet. It must find a new place to go.
The English and the French resume their perpetual fighting in Iberia. This time it is the French fleet, with double support, dislodging the English from the Catalan Coast.
Finally, we come to the Balkan peninsula, specifically Greece and the Peloponnesian Islands. Here the Italians mount a surprise (?) attack from the north and send the Turkish fleet scattering to... elsewhere.
RETREATS
NEEDED from England, Germany and Turkey. Submit 'em ASAP and I'll notify all the parties involved. If I don't get a retreat by 8 pm tomorrow it's OTB for you and it won't be a secret.
NEXT DEADLINE: Fall 1906 is due Tuesday, June 8, at 8 pm Eastern US time. As always, if I have all the orders marked Final by Monday I'll try to adjudicate early.
Cheers,
Chris
Orders as resolved and revealed:
===========================================
England:
F Baltic Sea Supports F Holland - Kiel
F Holland - Kiel
F Mid-Atlantic Ocean Supports F Spain(sc) - Portugal
F North Sea - Denmark (*Bounce*)
F Spain(sc) - Portugal (*Dislodged*)
F Western Mediterranean - Tunis (*Fails*)
France:
A Gascony Supports F Portugal - Spain(sc)
F Marseilles Supports F Portugal - Spain(sc)
F Portugal - Spain(sc)
A Venice - Trieste (*Bounce*)
Germany:
F Kiel - Denmark
(*Dislodged*)
Italy:
F Aegean Sea Supports A Serbia - Greece
F Ionian Sea Supports * (*Cut*)
A Serbia - Greece
A Trieste Hold
Russia:
Turkey:
F Albania - Trieste (*Bounce*)
F Greece Supports * (*Dislodged*)
F Tunis - Ionian Sea (*Fails*)
========================================================[Reply] |
| DC 306: Sengoku Rev6DP - Autumn 1573 Retreats - Kenshi777 (Jun 04, 2010, 4:00 pm) |
***PLAYERS:
Shimazu Yoshihisa - Isaac Zinner (*eliminated 1573*)
Mori Motonari - Jim Atkins
Chosokabe Motochika - Jean-Luc Lefebvre
Asakura Yoshikage - Garry Bledsoe
Oda Nobunaga - Joe Babinsack
Takeda Shingen - Nathan Deily (*eliminated 1572*)
Uesugi Kenshin - Fredrik Blom
Hojo Ujiyasu - Michael Thompson
***ORDERS:
Chosokabe:
disband A Harima
Hojo:
F Pacific Ocean - Kazusa
Neutral:
disband A Hida
disband A Kii
***NEXT DEADLINE:
Winter 1573 remains due Tuesday June 8th 1700 EST - (retreat time
counts as negotiation time for builds as well, since in FTF
negotiations are typically not allowed for either of these phases).
***ADJUSTMENTS:
Shimazu:
Remove
Mori:
Build
Chosokabe:
Build
Build
Oda:
Build
Uesugi:
Build
Thanks!
B.
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| Balkans 1860 Revisions - Stage 1 (Short Version) - Kenshi777 (Jun 04, 2010, 3:55 pm) |
---Ben--- Allen makes some valid points about the A/S relationship and
the uphill/downhill map dynamic in general...thoughts on the changes
proposed so far below. First, the ones I *don't* want to do.
x - Rumania gains Sev as a home SC. While this would help, I can't
swallow the historical inaccuracy of it. I already go too far
negating the influence of Russia and France in this scenario, I cannot
give the primary Russian port on the Black Sea to Rumania outright.
x - Add SC Temesvar. I feel that this would increase Austria/Serbia
tension, not decrease it.
Then, the ideas that I am considering (a mix of Allen's and my own)...
1 - Move either SC Agram or SC Sarajevo. This would likely be done in
conjunction with Allen's idea to add SCs in between Austria and
Romania. Downside - removing Agram makes F Ven a no-brainer opening
for F Trieste. Removing Sarajevo gives Serbia an undesirable
incentive to send A Kragujevac after Bulgaria, or send more than just
F Cetinje against Greece - also undesirable. So for this to work, we
need to give A Kragujevac a good option against Rumania. Which leads
to the next idea...
2 - Add SC Craiova. With a bit of negotiations with Bulgaria to
secure uncontested passage through Nis, Serbia could reasonably
guarantee Craiova. However, I'm still trading the only guaranteed dot
for Serbia (Sarajevo) for a definite maybe in Craiova.
3 - Change F Trieste to A Trieste. Contrary to my intentions, that
Fleet in Trieste seems to be a constant point of tension with the
Serbs. If it were only a build option rather than a starting unit,
this could improve Austrian/Serbian relations...?
4 - Split Beograd? Increasing the buffer between Austria and Serbia
would help perhaps...though the main Austria/Serbia flash point seems
to be along the Adriatic coast. (alternate idea - disconnect Temesvar
from Beograd somehow with a border redraw?)
...and moving into the twilight zone of major revisions (which may
nonetheless be necessary)...
! - Leave Kolosvar as it is and make it an Austrian Home SC. To
understand the idea here, take the map and rotate it 90 degrees
clockwise. Now try to picture Austria in Balkans1860 like Russia in
Standard. I'm not proposing to give Austria a Black Sea port
(completely ahistorical) but this could give Austria a good option to
move against the Serbs, or with them against Romania. Here I would
need to add Allen's idea of SC Tiraspol to balance out Romanian
options. I would also pull another SC off the map to retain balance
(perhaps Bitola, and redraw that to be a single territory with
Skopje?)
!! - Add another Ottoman SC in Sevastopol? Strange and irrelevant as
this may sound - if Serbia had a stronger partner in the SE corner,
one that also had options to engage Romania directly (rather than just
Bulgaria) - then perhaps Austria/Serbia could join the Ottomans and/or
Bulgarians in a dogpile heading east. Sevastopol could not be made
Rumanian with any semblance of historical accuracy. It *could*
however be made Turkish, if I were willing to make this a "what if?"
or to use the academic term, counterfactual scenario.
Here we assume a different settlement after the Crimean War -
historically, the Ottomans did not much real receive territorial
compensation following Russia's defeat in the Crimean war. In this
case, I would suggest that the British, French, and Ottomans could
have achieved their objective of removing the Russian naval presence
from the Black Sea by restoring the old Ottoman claim to the Crimea
(it had only been lost in 1783) and allowing their retention of
territory gained in the Caucasus.
What the hell...I've already really made it a counterfactual scenario
by removing Russia from the Crimea and cutting French influence out of
Italian unification. Most Diplomacy variants also permit some degree
of historical inaccuracy, Standard included...lest anyone believes
Italy or Turkey was truly a major player in WW1?
Anyway, if I give the Ottomans Sevastopol or the Austrians Kolosvar -
Allen's idea of adding SC Tiraspol would be needed, as Romania would
then have *no* reasonably guaranteed opening SC. The Ottomans would
also have F Istanbul changed to A Istanbul if they gained F
Sevastopol. And we would have to very closely examine the new
Romanian situation to ensure they aren't forced into conflict with
Austria or the Ottomans - I think not, and could work with either one
still, but I don't want to see them always ignore the Bulgarians.
Ultimately though, I keep coming back to what I said above...the path
to a solo victory lies in the heart of the Balkans. Austria has to
have a working long-term plan to get to 19 SCs without hitting Serbia
until their solo bid in the endgame. It's *possible* to do so by
joining Serbia to hit Italy and then Romania on the current map - but
I think that's even more unlikely than the B/R naval alliance we saw
here. Serbia would have to tolerate a *large* Austrian navy pushing
down the Adriatic. So what I *really* need is a southeast option for
Austria, one that bypasses Serbia altogether to hit Romania and
Bulgaria, *while* A/S presumably contain Italy or aid Greece in
attacking them. Because Italy simply cannot be ignored - and it is
very difficult to divide between Austria and Serbia as well.
Please let me know your thoughts on all this. Nothing is decided at all yet.
B.
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