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DC 262: Angstskrik - Anglo Saxon EOG - Kenshi777   (Dec 26, 2009, 10:44 pm)
After action report. Haven't heard an EOG called an AAR before, but
it seems appropriate Smile You military maybe Matt?

Interesting that both the Anglo-Saxons and the Gaels seem concerned
about the Bretons. I thought that this version of the variant
achieved the intended dynamic of giving the Bretons good options to
move against the Gaels or Anglo-Saxons, but the players seem not to
agree (Anglo-Saxon and Breton conflict appeared forced to them?) This
surprised me.

Scott - as the Breton player in the last Dark Ages game, you got along
reasonably well with the Anglo-Saxons (for most of the game) if I
recall, and nearly soloed. But my question is, was it exceedingly
difficult to work with the A-S position? This is, granted, one of the
most tense positions on the map, but certainly no worse than A/I in
Standard, and that is a *very* common alliance. And for the same
reasons that the Bretons and Anglo-Saxons should consider allying I
think - gains made at each others' expense leave them vulnerable to
attacks from outside (Gaels/Danes). So it is in Standard - when A/I
fight, R/T are often the ones that benefit most.

As for the Scots, that route really isn't meant to be a good choice,
as the Scots have enough problems (holding a position on the eastern
coast of the British Isles makes them the first ones, like the
Anglo-Saxons, that have to worry about the Viking invasions). Add the
Gaels in as potential (and frequent) rivals. If the Bretons also have
a strong impulse to head north, the Scots are screwed. So it was
intended that the Scots and Bretons would have the A/G dynamic - not
much contact at first, but definitely friendly towards one another -
though the Mercia/Deira border can cause conflict...

All this said, I am much less critical of Matt's play than he is
himself - the Breton position is one of the most diplomatically
demanding on the map. I also cannot understand why the Scandinavian
powers were not in constant contact with the Bretons, especially the
Danes. Oh well - perhaps the Anglo-Saxon/Breton conflict was taken as
a given in this game, and there was no need to stir the pot.

Thanks to all the players for the very insightful EOGs - I had hoped
that Dark Ages was done at the drawing board, but I think a few final
tweaks might be in order.

B.

On 12/20/09, Matthew Kelly <kelly058(at)verizon.net> wrote:

Evening All,
First time with this variant and my play showed it.  Gaels,  and Scots both
offered alliance against the other. I agreed to both. Which side I would
ultimately support would be determined by who got the upper hand over the
other.  My relations with the Anglo-Saxons on the other hand started badly
and continued in that way for the entire game.  Here is where my
inexperience with this variant probably got me into trouble.  The Bretons
have only two centers that they can reasonably be expected to secure early
in the game--Cornwall and Mercia. Being surrounded I viewed both as
imperative to my survival.  Nick didn't give me the warm and fuzzies about
me securing either center, especially Cornwall. My view of the map indicated
that the Anglo-Saxons have a lot more opportunities for centers especially
on the continent  and I was perplexed by Nick's intransigence on the issue.
It looks like Nick and I came to the same conclusions for the same
reasons--both thinking the other was out to get him. And it looks like we
were both wrong about the other's intentions.
As the game opened as expected the Gaels and Scotts went at it.  It also
became clear that the Anglo-Saxons were serious about Cornwall. My quick
move north to secure Strat. was successful. If the Gaels had been in
position to get an army across I would have supported them.  To have
attacked the Scots without significant support would have been fruitless and
I held my position and continued to profess my friendship with the Scots.
And  the Scots soon had the upper hand against the Gaels and my position in
the north was totally dependent on the Scots' good graces which I knew would
not last forever because the remainder of my forces were engaged with the
Anglo-Saxons.
Second error on my part was not keeping communications open with Nick.  We
went at it and continued until I was gone.  As noted in his after action
report Nick was working successfully to get the Scots and Gaels to come
after me. Even with (6) centers at one point  I was forced to defend those
centers and didn't have the strength to go north or south without giving up
centers in my rear. Diplomacy was my only way out and I didn't do it.
The Scots stood by me for probably longer than they needed to and I
appreciate that.  The end came with  the Gaels coming after me and I was
left with a choice. Fight a protracted defensive game with the inevitable
outcome or continue to keep the Anglo-Saxons pinned down for as long as
possible to give the Danes and opportunity  to expand and then maybe I'd be
offered some type of deal.  I've never been much of a defensive player.
My unfamiliarity with the variant resulted in a lack of an overall strategy
on my part.  I decided to "wing it" and see which way the wind blew and take
advantage of any opportunities.  I prefer to establish strong alliances
early but abandoned this approach for the reason noted above.  BIG MISTAKE.
Well that is about it. I would note that during the came I never received
any communications  from the continent.  Thought that was a bit strange.
-Matt Kelly-
Bretons




________________________________
From: Nick Higgins <congressofvienna1814(at)yahoo.com>
To: Benjamin Hester <screwtape777(at)gmail.com>; Nathan Deily
<ndeily(at)yahoo.com>
Cc: Nigel PHILLIPS <nephilli99(at)hotmail.com>; brn2dip(at)yahoo.com;
captain_sicarius(at)hotmail.com; dc262(at)diplomaticcorp.com; gregory nomads
<gbimmerle(at)gmail.com>; Jason K archer <githraine(at)yahoo.com>;
kelly058(at)verizon.net; Mike Sims - new email <mike(at)fuzzylogicllc.net>;
mike(at)sims-family.net
Sent: Sun, December 20, 2009 2:28:06 AM
Subject: Re: DC 262: Angstskrik - Anglo Saxon EOG

Thanks to B for running the game, and to my allies Nigel and Nathan for
coming together at the end to set up the defense line.  Congrats to Gregory
for a well-played game.  First I will go over a recap of the game from my
perspective, and then my view on the variant.

[quote:175fe2a413][quote:175fe2a413][quote:175fe2a413]Game Recap >>>

[/quote:175fe2a413][/quote:175fe2a413]
As for this game, I initially was most concerned about Denmark, due to their
past success in the variant, and my initial impression that they were
"aimed" in my direction instead of Sweden's.  I contacted the Swedes for an
attack, and got a favorable response.

However, I needed peace with the Bretons to pursue this plan.  Matt
negotiated pretty hard, insisting on getting both Mercia and Cornwall.  He
argued that I should be satisfied with Brittany, and he deserves Cornwall.
This potentially could be reasonable, but something about Matt's tone left
me worried where I didn't feel comfortable about having a long-term
alliance.  Once my units were pushed east against the Danes, I would be
powerless to do anything about the Breton threats in Cornwall and Mercia.  I
was very concerned about a Breton opening into Mercia in spring, followed by
a move into Middle Anglia in fall with their other army trailing into
Mercia.  This would be a very low-risk opening by Breton, while I would be
entirely defenseless against it if I pushed east.

If I had felt confident moving against the Danes, I would have done a bold
move like convoying an army to the continent or trying to sneak into NFC in
fall.  Instead, I opened by moving my army defensively to Middle Anglia, and
moved my fleets to take Austrasia and Brittany.  I had tried to woo the
Gaels into moving to Cardigan Bay against Breton, but much to my dismay the
Gaels and Scots moved very aggressively against each other.  I got a little
lucky when the Bretons did not open to Mercia, and was then able to bounce
him there in fall.

At this point, I was locked into war with Breton, as confirmed by his two
army builds.  The Gaels and Scots were locked in war as well.  I put all of
my diplomatic efforts into making peace between the Gaels and Scots, and
gaining Nathan as an ally to attack the Bretons.  Nathan seemed open to the
possibility, but Nigel was not.  This left the four of us in two separate
evenly matched wars where nobody made progress.

In the east, the Danes and Norse made short work of the Swedes, and
eventually they both turned west.  Nigel and I would face the brunt of this
attack, so we started cooperating together against the Bretons and Gaels.
Nigel and I had a slight edge in this war that we could have eventually
pressed to total victory, but we were not able to accomplish this before the
Danes/Norse sent fleets west.

Death looked imminent for us (Scots and Anglos), but we were saved by the
Danish stab of the Norse.  I had not held out any real hope that either
would stab the other, and was pleasantly surprised by this.  I immediately
sued for peace with Greg, and he acquiesced, promising to pull back from
Neustria to Austrasia.  The Gaels had come out the worst in the west, and
were down to 3 SCs.  I had emerged badly when the Danes stabbed me, and the
Bretons had taken advantage to reach 6 SCs while I was down to 4.  Tempted
by the carrot of the return of his Irish SC that Nigel had taken, Nathan was
amenable to joining the Scotch/Anglo alliance and helping us carve up the
powerful 6-SC Bretons.

The next phase of the game saw the Norse steadily devoured by the Danes,
while the Bretons were killed in the west.  One could ask why I never moved
against the Danes, but I had little choice.  All of my units were consumed
in the protracted war against Breton, in particular containing a rogue unit
behind my back lines.  Nigel couldn't do much to help the Norse, and so his
fleets just kinda hung out around Scotland while the Danish armies made
their way across Scandinavia.

The final phase saw the 3 of us left in the west, and the Danes in the
east.  I was most concerned about a Gaelic-Scottish alliance, where they
agreed to split me up after the Bretons were dead and then pursued a 3-way
draw.  I fomented Gaelic-Scottish war as a delay tactic so I could survive
long enough to be included in a 4-way draw.  Tension and suspicion remained
between them until a Scottish stab attempt of the Gaels in 830.  Nathan was
prepared though, and countered it.  Previously, Nigel tried a weak stab of
me in 829, but I blocked it.

Unable to make any rapid progress with a sneak attack, and faced with
fearsome Danish expansion, Nigel was satisfied to pursue a 4-way draw at
that point.  Greg tried to pull me away from the alliance (and surely tried
with the others), but with Denmark reaching 18 SCs, there was no margin of
error for anyone to risk a stab.  And thus the game ended in a draw.

[quote:175fe2a413][quote:175fe2a413]Variant View >>>

[/quote:175fe2a413][/quote:175fe2a413]
(I've already shared a lot of this with B, so sorry if this is repetitive
for you, but I've added a lot since my early analysis.)

I believe the variant suffers from a fundamental flaw that the board is
circular (like a donut).  What I mean by this is that each player only is
able to attack their two neighbors in the circle, such as I could only
attack the Bretons or Danes.  Every relationship is binary.  There are no
good triangles, and no vacant SC areas to keep a player sated for a while
without making any enemies.

The problem with this is that it leads to stagnant diplomacy.  Players
cannot easily attack in both directions, so once they pick a direction, they
are pretty much committed to that path for a while.  There is not much
reason to conduct diplomacy, and I found the diplomatic volume was pretty
low in this game.

One could argue that the board isn't circular in that it is possible for
some players to "break" the circle - namely, S-A, S-B, S-D, N-A, or D-N  The
ones diagonal across the North Sea (S-D and N-A) are pretty unlikely.  First
I will look at S-A and S-B across the isle of Britain, and then later D-N.

For S-A, I found it logistically very hard to attack Scotland.  The Bretons
should be in Mercia every time, which makes him a gatekeeper for any land
attack north.  By sea, I could get to Deira, but getting an armada to Mof
and Fof would be very tough.  It is not a promising path, plus even if
successful would leave me in a tactically unsound extended vertical position
where I would be very vulnerable to the edge powers in mid-game.  From the
Scottish perspective, a sneak attack south with a fleet from Deira into East
Anglia is possible, but advancement beyond that is limited by the defensive
chokepoint of Wfc and the need to convoy any armies into the theater
(Scottish home SCs are 5 spaces away from Breton!).

For S-B, this is limited by the Gaels, who serve a similar role as a "naval
gatekeeper" to Scotland.  It would take a very strong relationship indeed
for the Gaels to permit a Breton or Scottish fleet in Gaelic Sea where it
would touch 3 Gaelic SCs.  That limits the Bretons to moving up via land
when it is only 2 provinces wide.  Progress is possible in Deira and
Strathclyde, but easily defended and dependent upon Gaelic (or maybe Anglo)
help.  At best, they would be the junior partner in a Gaelic alliance, and
the bulk of their forces would presumably be used against the Anglos.  From
the Scottish view, they are likely to have a fleet in Deira, making an
attack on Breton very unwieldy (since an army would be a lot more useful).

For D-N, it's hard to conceive how either could choose to partner with W
against the other.  If N-W work together, then the Norse can make a gain in
Lindholm, but then it gets awkward after that.  Even if you give SCs like
Jelling or Alvheim to the Norse, it seems like the Swedes would be trapped
behind the Norse with no exit except through them.  They could ally, but not
against D; N would attack S, and W would attack D.

For D-W to work together, this presents the same issues, with the Danes
making awkward gains in Rogaland or Vestland.  D-W can ally, but not against
N; D would go west vs A, and W would go west vs N, and they would agree on
how to split the ones between them.

Certain relationships are more likely than others.  For example, with only
one fleet, B is not well-equipped to attack G.  B's armies are best used
against A, and (as mentioned before) B has a great low risk opening against
A (Pow-Mer, Gwy-Pow; then Mer-Man, Pow-Gwy OR Mer S Pow - Hwi), and thus is
more likely to attack A.  N and W are more likely to fight due to their
interlocked SCs leading to conflict.  S and N are less likely to fight due
to the distance involved and the relative ease of naval defense (e.g. if
Scotland gets a fleet to Rogaland Coast and the Norse hold their 2 SCs there
with land support, the Scots will have a hard time breaking it down; similar
the other way in Moray Firth).

When all these relationships are analyzed, Denmark clearly has the best
position on the board.  D is equally well-positioned to move against either
A or W, and both A and W are burdened by neighbors pre-disposed to fight
them.  This means a willing ally for D whichever way they go, plus little
risk of a stab from behind.

The Anglo-Saxons have it the worst.  B is pre-disposed to attack them, and
the D juggernaut is to their east.  Not only that, but the relationship with
B is asymmetrical, in that B has a much easier path to attack A than vice
versa.  With 2 armies and more advantageous starting position, B will likely
get Mercia and Cornwall, and can take the Mer-Hwi line from there.  It is
near-impossible for A to later break that line without pressure from behind,
but with Cornwall in Breton hands, it is very tough to ever get around the
corner there.  They can bounce B in Cornwall, but this leaves A down a build
too.  A needs to get G's help, except S is pre-disposed to attack G (since N
is too far away), and so G will need to defend against S.

If one accepts my judgments of what attacks are pre-disposed to occur, then
this is likely to happen:

B attacks A
S attacks G
N attacks W
D is left with option of attacking W or A

[quote:175fe2a413][quote:175fe2a413]Ideas for Variant Adjustments>>>

[/quote:175fe2a413][/quote:175fe2a413]
One idea is to collapse the North Sea, and make everyone much closer.  What
if Ean-Cir-Jel could all reach each other in two turns?

Another is to collapse the waters above North Sea - e.g., get rid of
Zetland, and combine Sca/Nwg and Mof/Roc.  Now S and N can attack each other
easily.

A third would be to reconfigure the Bretons.  This could be done by giving
them two fleets (so they can attack G), but then making it possible for a
fleet to attack the Anglos too.  E.g. have Dyfed and Hamptonshire touch
Atlantic Ocean, then combine what's left of English Channel and Strait of
Dover.  Now Breton and Anglo can attack each other navally immediately, plus
Anglo/Gael can attack each other more easily too.

A fourth is to reduce the army vertical distance on Britian, such as to make
an army attack by any of the 3 on any other of the 3 viable.  What if
Pow-Cir-Ean all could reach each other in 2 turns by land?

A fifth is to make the Norse/Swede relationship less messy, so that they
could more easily ally and move in different directions.  I'm ok with messy
rels (I love them in Sengoku!), but it seems a bit unfair that these are the
only two powers with this type of built-in tension.

This feedback is intended in a purely constructive way.  I face a similar
dilemma with my Congress of Vienna variant, which also has "circular"
issues, and I'm still trying to find a solution there.  Thinking through the
dilemma here has helped me to see some new possibilities in my own variant.
Hope this helps you B.  For anyone else who read this far (yeah right!),
thanks! - Nick
[/quote:175fe2a413]

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DC267 First Playtest Observations - MattTheLesser   (Dec 26, 2009, 3:29 pm)
So here's the list of potential changes (with comments). Feel free to
comment on any/all of them, but your input would be especially
appreciated on those marked with a *.

1. Name changes because I'm an idiot:
-It's Sea of Okhotsk not Sea of Okhtosk
-It's MacKenzie, not McKenzie, and I'm also going to make it
MacKenzie Bay instead of MacKenzie Delta for geographical accuracy

2. Builds:
It was pointed out that Canada's ability to build in Western Canada
puts an unfair burden on the USA to occupy Western Canada just to block
the build site. Also, it's almost impossible for Norway, Denmark, and
the USA to put fleets in the other ocean, respectively. Both of these
will be solved by implementing chaos builds (and removing the Canadian
build site in Western Canada).

*3. Russia
I don't like Russia having a Pacific fleet to start because I
think it makes it hard for Russia and the USA to cooperate, which I want
to be a viable strategy. The same is true with respect to Norway in the
Atlantic. Thus my inclination is to give Russia 3 armies. However, I
cannot decide whether to put the third army in Magadan or the
Trans-Siberian Railroad, as I think the latter gives more flexibility.
The question is whether it is too much...

*4. Time and Ice
I think having certain territories melt and freeze EVERY season
disrupts the flow of the game too much. I see two options. I could
spread the time out more, so there are the equivalent of 4 standard
years per Arctic year; each season would be a month, and therefore
territories would remain in the same state for a whole "year."
Alternatively I could keep the time scale and change the freeze rules so
that changing territories are frozen for winter and spring and water for
summer and fall (no differences within transforming territories).

5. Norwegian Sea
I think the Norwegian Sea as it stands now is too powerful of a
space because it borders all 4 of Norway's most natural centers AND 2 of
Denmark's. I think I'm going to split it into North Norwegian Sea and
South Norwegian Sea, with the line running between Greenland Sea and
Oslo. Or Tromso?

6. The Middle
A couple players commented that the middle of the board takes too
long to get across. So I think I'm going to combine Men, CAP, and AWL
into one big permanently frozen space called Central Arctic Ocean.

7. Bering Strait
The five way arrow is going away to be replaced with a normal land
bridge. The net change is the elimination of Sew/EBS and Kam/WBS
connections.

*8. The Gulf of Bothnia
I'm considering adding the Gulf of Bothnia as a space. I would also
add a canal on the Lapland/Europe border, giving Archangel two coasts as
well as Lapland. NAO would also be expanded to border Lapland.

9. More NAO
I might remove the border between NAO and Nain (Labrador Sea would
border the edge of the board).

I think that's it. Again please comment to your hearts content, and
also feel free to suggest other things. The thing I learned most from
this playtest is that the variant definitely needs some work.

Matt

8.

[Reply]

DC267 First Playtest Observations (dc267) pieandmash Dec 28, 04:18 pm
comment below next to Matts.
Also I enjoyed this map and the freeze rules- I say stick with them as they are, it adds a strategic level of complexity.
As for EOG statement- I was in a position to take down Denmark early and take the lead when USA attacked me and continued to harrass me throughout the game, which tied me up. Very frustrating as the USA barely communicated.
So tied up i was until USA suddenly turned on Russia giving me some room. My team up with Denmark v Russia/norway worked well- and there was a point where i could and should have stabbed Denmark, which would have dragged the game out- hopefully to a draw, but with Christmas coming and the wife with a slipped disk i need this game over!

Otherwise a great bunch of players and well done to all who stuck it out (including USA).
Not forgetting Matt for his hard work- many thanks
Nice one on the solo. Happy days

 


----- Original Message ----
From: Matt Kremer <matthew.kremer(at)yale.edu>
To: KLYNCH427(at)HOTMAIL.COM; Andrew Tanner <damienthryn(at)gmail.com>; jport333(at)yahoo.com; thase+dipcorp(at)dalarin.net; Matt Kremer <matthew.kremer(at)yale.edu>; "maxatrest(at)yahoo.co.uk" <maxatrest(at)yahoo.co.uk>; dc267(at)diplomaticcorp.com; Bill Duncan <cpt23862(at)yahoo.ca>; MICHAEL BOUTOT <vegas_iwish(at)yahoo.com>
Sent: Sat, 26 December, 2009 21:29:32
Subject: DC267 First Playtest Observations

So here's the list of potential changes (with comments).  Feel free to comment on any/all of them, but your input would be especially appreciated on those marked with a *.

1. Name changes because I'm an idiot:
  -It's Sea of Okhotsk not Sea of Okhtosk
  -It's MacKenzie, not McKenzie, and I'm also going to make it MacKenzie Bay instead of        MacKenzie Delta for geographical accuracy

OK

2. Builds:
  It was pointed out that Canada's ability to build in Western Canada puts an unfair burden on the USA to occupy Western Canada just to block the build site.  Also, it's almost impossible for Norway, Denmark, and the USA to put fleets in the other ocean, respectively.  Both of these will be solved by implementing chaos builds (and removing the Canadian build site in Western Canada).

Agree on western canada but only if you have chaos builds. Problem is this means the USA can easily defend its coastal sc.

*3. Russia
      I don't like Russia having a Pacific fleet to start because I think it makes it hard for Russia and the USA to cooperate, which I want to be a viable strategy.  The same is true with respect to Norway in the Atlantic.  Thus my inclination is to give Russia 3 armies.  However, I cannot decide whether to put the third army in Magadan or the Trans-Siberian Railroad, as I think the latter gives more flexibility.  The question is whether it is too much...

it will slow russia expansion and push his focus into the arctic which is good i think, too little of the game was played in the centre- because of the slow pace crossing it.

*4. Time and Ice
  I think having certain territories melt and freeze EVERY season disrupts the flow of the game too much.  I see two options.  I could spread the time out more, so there are the equivalent of 4 standard years per Arctic year; each season would be a month, and therefore territories would remain in the same state for a whole "year."  Alternatively I could keep the time scale and change the freeze rules so that changing territories are frozen for winter and spring and water for summer and fall (no differences within transforming territories).

the latter is my preference.

5. Norwegian Sea
  I think the Norwegian Sea as it stands now is too powerful of a space because it borders all 4 of Norway's most natural centers AND 2 of Denmark's.  I think I'm going to split it into North Norwegian Sea and South Norwegian Sea, with the line running between Greenland Sea and Oslo.  Or Tromso?

hmmmm makes it impossible to defend having 2

6. The Middle
  A couple players commented that the middle of the board takes too long to get across.  So I think I'm going to combine Men, CAP, and AWL into one big permanently frozen space called Central Arctic Ocean.

yep agree

7. Bering Strait
  The five way arrow is going away to be replaced with a normal land bridge.  The net change is the elimination of Sew/EBS and Kam/WBS connections.
yep

*8. The Gulf of Bothnia
  I'm considering adding the Gulf of Bothnia as a space.  I would also add a canal on the Lapland/Europe border, giving Archangel two coasts as well as Lapland.  NAO would also be expanded to border Lapland.

yep

9. More NAO
  I might remove the border between NAO and Nain (Labrador Sea would border the edge of the board).

nah leave it as is. works well

I think that's it.  Again please comment to your hearts content, and also feel free to suggest other things.  The thing I learned most from this playtest is that the variant definitely needs some work.

Matt

8.
Known World 901 - david_e_cohen   (Dec 26, 2009, 10:06 am)
The playtest of version 2.0 (DC 229) just concluded in a French solo. I attach 3.0 of the variant, redesigned with aid from, among other sources, the observation and comments on the playtest. Constructive criticism and comments are always welcome.

If there is sufficient interest, I will be running a playtest of the latest version (3.0) early next year, probably on the PlayDiplomacyOnline forum.

[Reply]

Unknown (Variants) charlesf Jan 03, 05:33 am
Hi David, the DVW yahoo group is dying as the Diplomacy community has generally shifted away from yahoo groups. I think this site in any case makes for a better home for such discussions.

Regarding your variant, I think the 10th century lends itself well to a Dippie scenario. I myself have considered doing a Diplomacy-Point variant set roughly at the same time, albeit confined to Europe and its periphery.

Must say the powers are awfully far apart and hence the game's going to be quite long. And stabs seen coming earlier than in other variants?

You apparently have made a deliberate effort to avoid Balkan-type battlegrounds that have many adjoining SCs. How come?

In terms of game philosophy we also differ in that I am wary of a 50%+X victory condition for bigger variants. After all, I'm just not a fan of long endgames.

As a fan of more compact variants, I'd have gone with 3 SC powers rather than them having 4.

BTW, how come Hungary isn't a major power? They were very strong at this juncture in time. We Germans sure had our hands full keeping them halfway at bay until the battle of Lechfeld.

Enjoy your upcoming playtest. I've heard good things from some of those who've had first-hand experience with Known World. But why don't you keep it here on DC, so you get some nice stats over time? Or are you trying to tap into another community to spread the word?

Cheers,

Charles
Unknown (Variants) david_e_cohen Jan 03, 02:07 pm
Hello Charles. In response to your various comments and questions:

Busy goes in cycles, I guess, and is dependent upon the dedication and involvement of those who run things in each group. Yes, people have shifted away from the yahoogroup based forums, but those are not the only ones gone quiet. Redscape is a lot slower than it used to be, for example, and so is judgeland.

Certainly the Powers are further apart, on average, than in Standard and there are no Venice-Trieste adjacencies, but there is a pretty good amount of interaction in the first year anyway, and afterwards, well, the armies and fleets get where they are going fast enough! I don't know that stabs are earlier, or later, as a rule. They come when they come.

Yes, the last version (2.0) had a couple of Balkan-type areas (five Powers bordering six dots and four Powers bordering 5 dots, if I remember correctly), but I altered them--lowering the density to facillitate more fluidity of movement. Plenty of conflict remains without them!

The reaon for four dot Powers instead of three dot Powers is simple. Since all of the neutrals are occupied, I wanted to give certain of the Powers the opportunity to get two dots the first year without needing assistance. For the other Powers to get multiple builds in 901, they will either need to immediately attack another Power, or work together form the start.

I am considering a lower victory criterion, but I am unconvinced at this point that one is needed. France, usually not considered an edge Power in this variant, soloed in the last playtest after all, and that was against high quality opposition.

As to no Hungarian Power, both history and board dynamics. They had only moved west into an area bereft of major competitors less than a decade ago, to get out from under the hegemony of the Khazars. They were not quite yet the force they would become. I also did not want another European Power clogging things up, which is why I have never had a Bulgarian Power. Again, less density leading to more fluidity.

I am indeed spreading they word by having playtests in multiple communities. At the moment I have ten or twelve players lined up (depending upon the maybes), so I need three to five more players.
DC267 Summer 2015 Results - Danish Solo! - MattTheLesser   (Dec 25, 2009, 1:36 pm)
Well Scott of Denmark looks under the tree this morning to find...a
solo! Though it's not a surprise to anyone at this point, Scott has
finally assimilated his 14th center and thus achieved a very well
deserved solo victory. Congratulations to Scott!

I also want to recognize the sustained efforts of all our other players;
Max of Canada finishes in 2nd place with 9 centers while Jerry of the
USA, Kevin of Norway, and Michael of Russia all tie for 3rd place with 1
center. I find it especially impressive that Jerry and Kevin were able
to survive for so long with one unit, and of course special thanks goes
to Michael for stepping in as a replacement.

As you all know, this was the first playtest of Arctic Diplomacy, and I
thought it went very well. The game definitely slowed down towards the
end, both in terms of on-board action and of progression in real-time,
the latter of which was mostly my fault and for which I apologize
greatly. That said, I learned a lot about the variant from the
playtest, and definitely plan to make some changes for the next
go-round. I will send another email soon (probably tomorrow) listing
all the potential changes and would love it if you all could comment on
any or all of their potential effects in your EOG statements. So once
you all have had a look at that, please do send and EOG commenting not
only on how this game in particular went, but also on the variant as a
whole.

Again thanks for a great playtest, and congrats to Scott for the
well-deserved solo!

Matt

Adjudication:

Canada:
F Anchorage - Seward Peninsula
A Baffin Island Supports A Queen Elizabeth Islands
A Barrow Supports F Anchorage - Seward Peninsula
A Churchill Supports A Baffin Island
A Queen Elizabeth Islands Hold
A Seward Peninsula - Kamchatka
F West Bering Sea - Chukchi Sea
A Yellowknife - Victoria Island

Denmark:
A Arctic Mid-Ocean Ridge - Arctic Wasteland
F Barents Sea Convoys A Torshavn - Ural Mountains
F Kara Sea - Laptev Sea
F Labrador Sea Supports A Northwest Greenland
A Northwest Greenland Supports A Yermak Plateau - Arctic Mid-Ocean Ridge
F Norwegian Sea Convoys A Torshavn - Ural Mountains
F Nuuk Supports F Labrador Sea
A Pevek Supports A Yakutsk
A Torshavn - Ural Mountains
A Trans-Siberian Railroad - Magadan (*Fails*)
F White Sea Convoys A Torshavn - Ural Mountains
A Yakutsk Supports A Pevek
A Yermak Plateau - Arctic Mid-Ocean Ridge

Norway:
F Archangel Hold

Russia:
A Magadan Hold

USA:
F Chukchi Sea - Beaufort Sea

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DCI w06 builds! - jhack16   (Dec 24, 2009, 4:12 pm)
Game ending?  C'mon we're only warming up guys.... With Dan seemingly (??) opting for the draw that means the field is wide open..
 
Frank, we really miss your press, come back, Syria is open...
 
 
Joe
 
 
 


 
On Thu, Dec 24, 2009 at 2:10 PM, Nigel PHILLIPS <nephilli99(at)hotmail.com ([email]nephilli99(at)hotmail.com[/email])> wrote:

Surely we should take recent form into account? Say rate of growth in the last year ; - )

If everyone is ready for the game to end, I'll not block it.


Merry Christmas


Nigs




[quote:d7c5d286d5]Date: Wed, 23 Dec 2009 20:23:36 -0800
From: smegdwarf(at)yahoo.com ([email]smegdwarf(at)yahoo.com[/email])
Subject: Re: DCI w06 builds!


To: mike(at)fuzzylogicllc.net ([email]mike(at)fuzzylogicllc.net[/email]); drew3739o(at)yahoo.com ([email]drew3739o(at)yahoo.com[/email]); kielmarch(at)hotmail.com ([email]kielmarch(at)hotmail.com[/email]); jhack16(at)gmail.com ([email]jhack16(at)gmail.com[/email]); Maxatrest(at)yahoo.co.uk ([email]Maxatrest(at)yahoo.co.uk[/email]); m_don_j(at)hotmail.com ([email]m_don_j(at)hotmail.com[/email]); frankmartin(at)surewest.net ([email]frankmartin(at)surewest.net[/email]); jmsaralegui(at)gmail.com ([email]jmsaralegui(at)gmail.com[/email]); nephilli99(at)hotmail.com ([email]nephilli99(at)hotmail.com[/email]); matthew.kremer(at)yale.edu ([email]matthew.kremer(at)yale.edu[/email]); dci(at)diplomaticcorp.com ([email]dci(at)diplomaticcorp.com[/email]); ddz999cat23(at)yahoo.com ([email]ddz999cat23(at)yahoo.com[/email])



If we're all winners, then shouldn't it be a 6-way draw proposal? I'd vote for THAT one.

--- On Wed, 12/23/09, Dan Dzikowicz <ddz999cat23(at)yahoo.com ([email]ddz999cat23(at)yahoo.com[/email])> wrote:

[quote:d7c5d286d5]From: Dan Dzikowicz <ddz999cat23(at)yahoo.com ([email]ddz999cat23(at)yahoo.com[/email])>
Subject: Re: DCI w06 builds!
To: "Michael Sims" <mike(at)fuzzylogicllc.net ([email]mike(at)fuzzylogicllc.net[/email])>, drew3739o(at)yahoo.com ([email]drew3739o(at)yahoo.com[/email]), "Garry Bledsoe" <kielmarch(at)hotmail.com ([email]kielmarch(at)hotmail.com[/email])>, jhack16(at)gmail.com ([email]jhack16(at)gmail.com[/email]), Maxatrest(at)yahoo.co.uk ([email]Maxatrest(at)yahoo.co.uk[/email]), m_don_j(at)hotmail.com ([email]m_don_j(at)hotmail.com[/email]), frankmartin(at)surewest.net ([email]frankmartin(at)surewest.net[/email]), jmsaralegui(at)gmail.com ([email]jmsaralegui(at)gmail.com[/email]), nephilli99(at)hotmail.com ([email]nephilli99(at)hotmail.com[/email]), matthew.kremer(at)yale.edu ([email]matthew.kremer(at)yale.edu[/email]), smegdwarf(at)yahoo.com ([email]smegdwarf(at)yahoo.com[/email]), "dci" <dci(at)diplomaticcorp.com ([email]dci(at)diplomaticcorp.com[/email])>
Date: Wednesday, December 23, 2009, 10:15 PM
Norway, Austria? 
Jorge, Dan?  In the end does it really matter either
way?  The point in this Christmas season is that we all
find common ground.  Why than focus on what divides
us?  I say vote YES no matter who
"benefits".  And really, aren't we all
winners here?

From:
Michael Sims <mike(at)fuzzylogicllc.net ([email]mike(at)fuzzylogicllc.net[/email])>
To:
ddz999cat23(at)yahoo.com ([email]ddz999cat23(at)yahoo.com[/email]); drew3739o(at)yahoo.com ([email]drew3739o(at)yahoo.com[/email]); Garry Bledsoe
<kielmarch(at)hotmail.com ([email]kielmarch(at)hotmail.com[/email])>; jhack16(at)gmail.com ([email]jhack16(at)gmail.com[/email]);
Maxatrest(at)yahoo.co.uk ([email]Maxatrest(at)yahoo.co.uk[/email]); m_don_j(at)hotmail.com ([email]m_don_j(at)hotmail.com[/email]);
frankmartin(at)surewest.net ([email]frankmartin(at)surewest.net[/email]); jmsaralegui(at)gmail.com ([email]jmsaralegui(at)gmail.com[/email]);
nephilli99(at)hotmail.com ([email]nephilli99(at)hotmail.com[/email]); matthew.kremer(at)yale.edu ([email]matthew.kremer(at)yale.edu[/email]);
smegdwarf(at)yahoo.com ([email]smegdwarf(at)yahoo.com[/email]); dci <dci(at)diplomaticcorp.com ([email]dci(at)diplomaticcorp.com[/email])>
Sent: Wed,
December 23, 2009 1:01:39 PM
Subject: RE:
DCI w06 builds!















Actually
Austria is in the lead by center-count as of this turn,
Dan would win the DCI if it’s called a draw.


 





From: Michael Sims

Sent: Wednesday, December 23, 2009 1:06 PM

Subject: DCI w06 builds!





 

There is a
draw proposed for the DCI:  3-way Austria France
Norway.  Vote yay / nay with fall orders. 
Requires 6 yes-votes to
pass.

Note tho this
is a draw for the stats, the DCI would go to the
highest center-count, or Norway if it passes.


 

RETREATS:


 

England:
disband F London

Italy: A
Venice - Rome


 

BUILDS:

Austria:
Build F Trieste, A Budapest

France: Build
F Marseilles, A Paris

Germany:
Remove A Silesia

Italy: Remove
A Ukraine

Russia: Build
F Sevastopol

Norway:
Remove F London, F Norwegian Sea


 

That’s it
for this short and sweet holiday turn.  Want a
bit slower for the next one? 


 

Spring 07 is
due Monday Jan 4, 3pm Central.

Enjoy,

-mike


 












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Happy Holidaze - sgttodd   (Dec 24, 2009, 2:38 pm)
and may your new year look better than that.

Jerry

[Reply]

DCI w06 builds! - Nigs   (Dec 24, 2009, 8:11 am)
Surely we should take recent form into account? Say rate of growth in the last year ; - )

If everyone is ready for the game to end, I'll not block it.


Merry Christmas


Nigs




Date: Wed, 23 Dec 2009 20:23:36 -0800
From: smegdwarf(at)yahoo.com
Subject: Re: DCI w06 builds!
To: mike(at)fuzzylogicllc.net; drew3739o(at)yahoo.com; kielmarch(at)hotmail.com; jhack16(at)gmail.com; Maxatrest(at)yahoo.co.uk; m_don_j(at)hotmail.com; frankmartin(at)surewest.net; jmsaralegui(at)gmail.com; nephilli99(at)hotmail.com; matthew.kremer(at)yale.edu; dci(at)diplomaticcorp.com; ddz999cat23(at)yahoo.com

If we're all winners, then shouldn't it be a 6-way draw proposal? I'd vote for THAT one.

--- On Wed, 12/23/09, Dan Dzikowicz <ddz999cat23(at)yahoo.com> wrote:

[quote:ee26c085dc]From: Dan Dzikowicz <ddz999cat23(at)yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: DCI w06 builds!
To: "Michael Sims" <mike(at)fuzzylogicllc.net>, drew3739o(at)yahoo.com, "Garry Bledsoe" <kielmarch(at)hotmail.com>, jhack16(at)gmail.com, Maxatrest(at)yahoo.co.uk, m_don_j(at)hotmail.com, frankmartin(at)surewest.net, jmsaralegui(at)gmail.com, nephilli99(at)hotmail.com, matthew.kremer(at)yale.edu, smegdwarf(at)yahoo.com, "dci" <dci(at)diplomaticcorp.com>
Date: Wednesday, December 23, 2009, 10:15 PM
Norway, Austria?
Jorge, Dan? In the end does it really matter either
way? The point in this Christmas season is that we all
find common ground. Why than focus on what divides
us? I say vote YES no matter who
"benefits". And really, aren't we all
winners here?

From:
Michael Sims <mike(at)fuzzylogicllc.net>
To:
ddz999cat23(at)yahoo.com; drew3739o(at)yahoo.com; Garry Bledsoe
<kielmarch(at)hotmail.com>; jhack16(at)gmail.com;
Maxatrest(at)yahoo.co.uk; m_don_j(at)hotmail.com;
frankmartin(at)surewest.net; jmsaralegui(at)gmail.com;
nephilli99(at)hotmail.com; matthew.kremer(at)yale.edu;
smegdwarf(at)yahoo.com; dci <dci(at)diplomaticcorp.com>
Sent: Wed,
December 23, 2009 1:01:39 PM
Subject: RE:
DCI w06 builds!















Actually
Austria is in the lead by center-count as of this turn,
Dan would win the DCI if it’s called a draw.








From: Michael Sims

Sent: Wednesday, December 23, 2009 1:06 PM

Subject: DCI w06 builds!







There is a
draw proposed for the DCI: 3-way Austria France
Norway. Vote yay / nay with fall orders.
Requires 6 yes-votes to
pass.

Note tho this
is a draw for the stats, the DCI would go to the
highest center-count, or Norway if it passes.




RETREATS:




England:
disband F London

Italy: A
Venice - Rome




BUILDS:

Austria:
Build F Trieste, A Budapest

France: Build
F Marseilles, A Paris

Germany:
Remove A Silesia

Italy: Remove
A Ukraine

Russia: Build
F Sevastopol

Norway:
Remove F London, F Norwegian Sea




That’s it
for this short and sweet holiday turn. Want a
bit slower for the next one?




Spring 07 is
due Monday Jan 4, 3pm Central.

Enjoy,

-mike















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1648 091010: Fall 1652 Moves - charlesf   (Dec 23, 2009, 11:21 pm)
Frohe Weihnachten!

It's been a good fall for the Lord Protector and the Cardinal! Godly rule now holds sway over much of Scandinavia, while the French have conquered strategically important Swabia.

This in turn adversely affected the Emperor and the Northern Crowns, though the Swedes were at least able to regain the Duchy of Courland.

In the Mediterranean, the Sultan has managed to seize Sicily and hence deploy his war galleys further to the West. Madrid was in the meantime beset by the inertia of its military leaders and failed to gain new ground.

I should add that I found a bug in the RP module. I had failed to denote Sicily as being adjacent to the Ionian. Should you want the fixed RP files, let me know and I'll send them to you.

Anyway, I shall be down in Greece as of now until December 29th and any game-communication of mine will be probably delayed until that date.

As you know, I've scheduled the Winter deadline for the 1st. Okay, now gotta pack my suitcase (and the odd present I have yet to wrap).

I wish you all a merry and blessed Christmas.

Liebe Grüsse,

Charles

----------
PLAYERS:
AUSTRIA: Mike Hoffman <mrh(at)panix.com>
DENMARK-NORWAY: Marc Ellinger <mellinger(at)blitzbardgett.com>
ENGLAND: Harvey Morris <hmtucaz(at)gmail.com>
FRANCE: Nigel Phillips <nephilli99(at)hotmail.com>
POLAND-LITHUANIA: Jorge Saralegui <jmsaralegui(at)gmail.com>
RUSSIA: Mikael Johansson <m_don_j(at)hotmail.com> (eliminated Winter 1650)
SPAIN: Dirk Knemeyer <dirk(at)knemeyer.com>
SWEDEN: Jeff Hall <hall.jeff(at)gmail.com>
TURKEY: Aidan Slattery <AiSlattery(at)aol.com>

PROCLAMATIONS:
o EUROPEANS CELEBRATE CHRIST'S BIRTH IN THE MIDST OF PAN-EUROPEAN WAR

PRESS: None. Sad

ORDERS:

Austria:
A Hesse - Rhineland-Westphalia (*Fails*)
A Saxony Supports A Swabia (*Cut*)
A Swabia Supports A Hesse - Rhineland-Westphalia (*Dislodged*)
A Trieste Supports F Adriatic Sea - Venice (*Void*)
A Tyrolia - Switzerland (*Bounce*)
A Vienna Supports A Trieste

Denmark-Norway:
F Scania - Baltic Sea (*Fails*)
A Stettin - Mecklenburg (*Bounce*)

England:
A Bohuslan - Stockholm
A Karelia - Abo
F North Sea Hold
F Norwegian Sea Hold
F Skagerrak Supports A Bohuslan - Stockholm
F United Provinces Hold

France:
F Flanders Hold
F Helgoland Bight - Copenhagen (*Bounce*)
A Lombardy - Switzerland (*Bounce*)
A Lorraine Supports A Switzerland - Swabia
A Paris - Dauphiné
A Rhineland-Westphalia Supports A Switzerland - Swabia (*Cut*)
A Switzerland - Swabia
A Venice - Tyrolia (*Fails*)

Poland-Lithuania:
A Brandenburg - Mecklenburg (*Bounce*)
A Courland - Polotsk (*Dislodged*)
A Ingria Supports A Karelia - Abo
A Moscow - Smolensk
A Novgorod Supports A Moscow - Smolensk
A Prussia - Courland (*Fails*)
A Vilna Supports A Moscow - Smolensk
A Volhynia - White Ruthenia

Spain:
F Adriatic Sea - Dalmatia (*Bounce*)
A Algiers Supports F Western Mediterranean - Tunis (*Fails*)
A Lower Saxony - Saxony (*Fails*)
F Naples Supports F Papal States(ec) - Adriatic Sea (*Fails*)
F Papal States(ec) - Adriatic Sea (*Fails*)
A Portugal Hold
F Seville - Western Mediterranean (*Fails*)
A Tunis - Papal States (*Fails*)
F Tyrrhenian Sea Convoys A Tunis - Papal States
F Western Mediterranean - Tunis (*Fails*)

Sweden:
F Baltic Sea - Stettin (*Fails*)
F Gulf of Bothnia - Courland
A Holstein - Copenhagen (*Bounce*)
A Mecklenburg Supports F Baltic Sea - Stettin (*Cut*)
A Polotsk Supports A Smolensk - Vilna (*Cut*)
A Riga Supports F Gulf of Bothnia - Courland
A Smolensk - Vilna (*Dislodged*)

Turkey:
A Belgrade - Croatia
F Candia Supports F Eastern Mediterranean - Ionian Sea
F Constantinople - Illyria (*Fails*)
A Crimea Hold
F Eastern Mediterranean - Ionian Sea
F Egypt Supports F Eastern Mediterranean - Ionian Sea
F Illyria - Dalmatia (*Bounce*)
F Ionian Sea - Sicily
A Siberia Supports A Novgorod

Ukraine:
A Ukraine Hold

PENDING RETREATS:

Polish A Courland can retreat to Samogitia or OTB.
Swedish A Smolensk can retreat to Pskov or OTB.
Austrian A Swabia can retreat to Bavaria or OTB.

PENDING ADJUSTMENTS:

Austria:
Remove?

Denmark-Norway:
Remove

England:
Build
Build

France:
Build
Build

Poland-Lithuania:
Build?

Sweden:
Remove
Remove?

Turkey:
Build






SUPPLY CENTER OWNERSHIP:
Austria(6): Bavaria, Saxony, Swabia, Prague, Trieste, Vienna.
Denmark-Norway(2): Mecklenburg, Stockholm.
England(6): Bristol, Christiania, Ireland, London, Scotland, United Provinces.
France(Cool: Brest, Flanders, Lorraine, Marseille, Paris, Savoy, Switzerland, Venice.
Poland-Lithuania(Cool: Courland, Cracow, Crimea, Moscow, Prussia, Vilna, Voronezh, Warsaw.
Russia(0): -
Spain(10): Algiers, Lower Saxony, Madrid, Morocco, Naples, Portugal, Rhineland-Westphalia, Sevilla, Tuscany, Tunis.
Sweden(7): Abo, Brandenburg, Copenhagen, Holstein, Novgorod, Riga, Stettin.
Turkey(9): Belgrade, Candia, Constantinople, Damascus, Moldavia, Persia, Transylvania, Turkestan, Wallachia.
Minor Powers(2): Papal States, Ukraine.

DEADLINE SCHEDULE: (all orders are due NLT 6PM CET (i.e. GMT+1)...not local time)
o Winter 1652 Retreats/Adjustments: 1 January
o Spring 1653 Moves: (4) 6 January



ORDERS MAP:


RESULTS MAP:

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1926 091119: Winter 1927 Retreats/Adjustments - charlesf   (Dec 23, 2009, 10:29 pm)
Frohe Weihnachten!

I shall be down in Greece as of now until December 29th and any game-communication of mine will be delayed until that date. Gotta rush this a bit, since I've got a plane to catch...

As you know, I've scheduled the Spring 1928 deadline for the 31st (hence prelims due on the 29th). A tigher schedule than I had anticipated on account of the past delay. If anyone wishes me to delay matters by a week, let me know and I'll adjust the schedule accordingly.

I wish you all a merry and blessed Christmas.

Liebe Grüsse,

Charles

----------
PLAYERS:
BRITAIN: Dirk Knemeyer dirk(at)knemeyer.com
FRANCE: Nathan Albright <nathanbalbright(at)yahoo.com>
GERMANY: Matt Kremer <matthew.kremer(at)yale.edu>
ITALY: Gregory Bim-Merle <gbimmerle(at)gmail.com> (joined Winter 1927)
POLAND: Wladimir Mysonski <wmysonski(at)gmail.com>
SOVIET UNION: Mikael Johansson <m_don_j(at)hotmail.com>
TURKEY: Harvey Morris <hmtucaz(at)gmail.com>

HEADLINES:
o NEWSPAPER EDITORS TAKE A CHRISTMAS BREAK



RETREATS:

France:
disband A Iraq
A Switzerland - Piedmont

Germany:
F Denmark - Baltic Sea

USSR:
A Moscow - Archangel

Finland:
disband A Finland

Rumania:
disband A Rumania

ADJUSTMENTS:

Britain:
Build F London

France:
Remove F Bay of Biscay

Italy:
Build F Naples

Poland:
Build F Gdynia
Build A Warsaw
Build A Cracow

Turkey:
Build A Istanbul
Build A Ankara


SUPPLY CENTER OWNERSHIP:
Britain(7): Belgium, Edinburgh, Egypt, Liverpool, London, Spain, Suez.
France(5): Algiers, Brest, Marseille, Paris, Tripoli.
Germany(6): Austria, Berlin, Czechia, Hamburg, Munich, Switzerland.
Italy(4): Milan, Naples, Rome, Yugoslavia.
Poland(Cool: Cracow, Gdynia, Latvia, Leningrad, Lithuania, Moscow, Rumania, Warsaw.
Turkey(Cool: Ankara, Beirut, Bulgaria, Greece, Iraq, Istanbul, Izmir, Stalingrad.
USSR(3): Denmark, Finland, Sweden.
Minor Powers(6): Hungary, Morocco, Netherlands, Norway, Persia, Portugal.

DEADLINE SCHEDULE: (all orders are due NLT 6PM CET (GMT+1)...not local time)
o Spring 1928 Moves: (29) 31 December
o Summer 1928 Retreats: 2 January
o Fall 1928 Moves: (5) 7 January

MAP:

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DCI w06 builds! - AceRimmer   (Dec 23, 2009, 10:23 pm)
If we're all winners, then shouldn't it be a 6-way draw proposal? I'd vote for THAT one.

--- On Wed, 12/23/09, Dan Dzikowicz <ddz999cat23(at)yahoo.com> wrote:

From: Dan Dzikowicz <ddz999cat23(at)yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: DCI w06 builds!
To: "Michael Sims" <mike(at)fuzzylogicllc.net>, drew3739o(at)yahoo.com, "Garry Bledsoe" <kielmarch(at)hotmail.com>, jhack16(at)gmail.com, Maxatrest(at)yahoo.co.uk, m_don_j(at)hotmail.com, frankmartin(at)surewest.net, jmsaralegui(at)gmail.com, nephilli99(at)hotmail.com, matthew.kremer(at)yale.edu, smegdwarf(at)yahoo.com, "dci" <dci(at)diplomaticcorp.com>
Date: Wednesday, December 23, 2009, 10:15 PM
Norway, Austria? 
Jorge, Dan?  In the end does it really matter either
way?  The point in this Christmas season is that we all
find common ground.  Why than focus on what divides
us?  I say vote YES no matter who
"benefits".  And really, aren't we all
winners here?

From:
Michael Sims <mike(at)fuzzylogicllc.net>
To:
ddz999cat23(at)yahoo.com; drew3739o(at)yahoo.com; Garry Bledsoe
<kielmarch(at)hotmail.com>; jhack16(at)gmail.com;
Maxatrest(at)yahoo.co.uk; m_don_j(at)hotmail.com;
frankmartin(at)surewest.net; jmsaralegui(at)gmail.com;
nephilli99(at)hotmail.com; matthew.kremer(at)yale.edu;
smegdwarf(at)yahoo.com; dci <dci(at)diplomaticcorp.com>
Sent: Wed,
December 23, 2009 1:01:39 PM
Subject: RE:
DCI w06 builds!















Actually
Austria is in the lead by center-count as of this turn,
Dan would win the DCI if it’s called a draw.


 





From: Michael Sims

Sent: Wednesday, December 23, 2009 1:06 PM

Subject: DCI w06 builds!





 

There is a
draw proposed for the DCI:  3-way Austria France
Norway.  Vote yay / nay with fall orders. 
Requires 6 yes-votes to
pass.

Note tho this
is a draw for the stats, the DCI would go to the
highest center-count, or Norway if it passes.


 

RETREATS:


 

England:
disband F London

Italy: A
Venice - Rome


 

BUILDS:

Austria:
Build F Trieste, A Budapest

France: Build
F Marseilles, A Paris

Germany:
Remove A Silesia

Italy: Remove
A Ukraine

Russia: Build
F Sevastopol

Norway:
Remove F London, F Norwegian Sea


 

That’s it
for this short and sweet holiday turn.  Want a
bit slower for the next one? 


 

Spring 07 is
due Monday Jan 4, 3pm Central.

Enjoy,

-mike


 









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DCI w06 builds! - txurce   (Dec 23, 2009, 10:20 pm)
That was funny enough to get 99% of my vote.  It's a shame that stodgy old DC requires unanimity on these issues.

Jorge

On Wed, Dec 23, 2009 at 8:15 PM, Dan Dzikowicz <ddz999cat23(at)yahoo.com ([email]ddz999cat23(at)yahoo.com[/email])> wrote:

Norway, Austria?  Jorge, Dan?  In the end does it really matter either way?  The point in this Christmas season is that we all find common ground.  Why than focus on what divides us?  I say vote YES no matter who "benefits".  And really, aren't we all winners here?



From: Michael Sims <mike(at)fuzzylogicllc.net ([email]mike(at)fuzzylogicllc.net[/email])>
To: ddz999cat23(at)yahoo.com ([email]ddz999cat23(at)yahoo.com[/email]); drew3739o(at)yahoo.com ([email]drew3739o(at)yahoo.com[/email]); Garry Bledsoe <kielmarch(at)hotmail.com ([email]kielmarch(at)hotmail.com[/email])>; jhack16(at)gmail.com ([email]jhack16(at)gmail.com[/email]); Maxatrest(at)yahoo.co.uk ([email]Maxatrest(at)yahoo.co.uk[/email]); m_don_j(at)hotmail.com ([email]m_don_j(at)hotmail.com[/email]); frankmartin(at)surewest.net ([email]frankmartin(at)surewest.net[/email]); jmsaralegui(at)gmail.com ([email]jmsaralegui(at)gmail.com[/email]); nephilli99(at)hotmail.com ([email]nephilli99(at)hotmail.com[/email]); matthew.kremer(at)yale.edu ([email]matthew.kremer(at)yale.edu[/email]); smegdwarf(at)yahoo.com ([email]smegdwarf(at)yahoo.com[/email]); dci <dci(at)diplomaticcorp.com ([email]dci(at)diplomaticcorp.com[/email])>
Sent: Wed, December 23, 2009 1:01:39 PM

Subject: RE: DCI w06 builds!




Actually Austria is in the lead by center-count as of this turn, Dan would win the DCI if it’s called a draw.
 
From: Michael Sims
Sent: Wednesday, December 23, 2009 1:06 PM
Subject: DCI w06 builds!


 
There is a draw proposed for the DCI:  3-way Austria France Norway.  Vote yay / nay with fall orders.  Requires 6 yes-votes to pass.
Note tho this is a draw for the stats, the DCI would go to the highest center-count, or Norway if it passes.
 
RETREATS:
 
England: disband F London
Italy: A Venice - Rome
 
BUILDS:
Austria: Build F Trieste, A Budapest
France: Build F Marseilles, A Paris
Germany: Remove A Silesia
Italy: Remove A Ukraine
Russia: Build F Sevastopol
Norway: Remove F London, F Norwegian Sea
 
That’s it for this short and sweet holiday turn.  Want a bit slower for the next one? 
 
Spring 07 is due Monday Jan 4, 3pm Central.
Enjoy,
-mike
 







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DCI w06 builds! - ddz999cat23   (Dec 23, 2009, 10:15 pm)
Norway, Austria? Jorge, Dan? In the end does it really matter either way? The point in this Christmas season is that we all find common ground. Why than focus on what divides us? I say vote YES no matter who "benefits". And really, aren't we all winners here?


From: Michael Sims <mike(at)fuzzylogicllc.net>
To: ddz999cat23(at)yahoo.com; drew3739o(at)yahoo.com; Garry Bledsoe <kielmarch(at)hotmail.com>; jhack16(at)gmail.com; Maxatrest(at)yahoo.co.uk; m_don_j(at)hotmail.com; frankmartin(at)surewest.net; jmsaralegui(at)gmail.com; nephilli99(at)hotmail.com; matthew.kremer(at)yale.edu; smegdwarf(at)yahoo.com; dci <dci(at)diplomaticcorp.com>
Sent: Wed, December 23, 2009 1:01:39 PM
Subject: RE: DCI w06 builds!


Actually Austria is in the lead by center-count as of this turn, Dan would win the DCI if it’s called a draw.

From: Michael Sims
Sent: Wednesday, December 23, 2009 1:06 PM
Subject: DCI w06 builds!



There is a draw proposed for the DCI: 3-way Austria France Norway. Vote yay / nay with fall orders. Requires 6 yes-votes to pass.
Note tho this is a draw for the stats, the DCI would go to the highest center-count, or Norway if it passes.

RETREATS:

England: disband F London
Italy: A Venice - Rome

BUILDS:
Austria: Build F Trieste, A Budapest
France: Build F Marseilles, A Paris
Germany: Remove A Silesia
Italy: Remove A Ukraine
Russia: Build F Sevastopol
Norway: Remove F London, F Norwegian Sea

That’s it for this short and sweet holiday turn. Want a bit slower for the next one?

Spring 07 is due Monday Jan 4, 3pm Central.
Enjoy,
-mike

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DC 262: Angstskrik - Norse EOG - Lothar   (Dec 23, 2009, 3:39 pm)
Having played the ill-fated Swedes, I have to agree with the other eastern powers... we're not quite balanced as we are.

Its relatively easy for the Norse or Danes to stop the Swedes from getting anywhere, and the Swedes need to trust either the Norse or the Danes implicitly. The other thing is with two fleets, fighting the Dane is easier/better than fighting the Norse, which leans the triangle further one way.

Having not paid much attention to the game since I was eliminated, I can't really say much else about it...

But it was fun while it lasted.

-Mark Duffield



Windows Live: Keep your friends up to date with what you do online.

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DCI w06 builds! - Nigs   (Dec 23, 2009, 1:32 pm)
I've looked at the map, and realised why my orders didn't work out as expected... we were using the wrong page in the atllas. MOS presumably is Montevideos, Sev Sen Salvador (maybe issues with Cyrillic alphabet?)

Off to plan a resurgence now the smoke of war has lifted


Nigs

Subject: RE: DCI w06 builds!
Date: Wed, 23 Dec 2009 13:01:39 -0600
From: mike(at)fuzzylogicllc.net
To: ddz999cat23(at)yahoo.com; drew3739o(at)yahoo.com; kielmarch(at)hotmail.com; jhack16(at)gmail.com; Maxatrest(at)yahoo.co.uk; m_don_j(at)hotmail.com; frankmartin(at)surewest.net; jmsaralegui(at)gmail.com; nephilli99(at)hotmail.com; matthew.kremer(at)yale.edu; smegdwarf(at)yahoo.com; dci(at)diplomaticcorp.com

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Actually Austria is in the lead by center-count as of this turn, Dan would win the DCI if it’s called a draw.

From: Michael Sims
Sent: Wednesday, December 23, 2009 1:06 PM
Subject: DCI w06 builds!



There is a draw proposed for the DCI: 3-way Austria France Norway. Vote yay / nay with fall orders. Requires 6 yes-votes to pass.
Note tho this is a draw for the stats, the DCI would go to the highest center-count, or Norway if it passes.

RETREATS:

England: disband F London
Italy: A Venice - Rome

BUILDS:
Austria: Build F Trieste, A Budapest
France: Build F Marseilles, A Paris
Germany: Remove A Silesia
Italy: Remove A Ukraine
Russia: Build F Sevastopol
Norway: Remove F London, F Norwegian Sea

That’s it for this short and sweet holiday turn. Want a bit slower for the next one?

Spring 07 is due Monday Jan 4, 3pm Central.
Enjoy,
-mike


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DCI w06 builds! - FuzzyLogic   (Dec 23, 2009, 1:01 pm)
Actually Austria is in the lead by center-count as of this turn, Dan would win the DCI if it’s called a draw.

From: Michael Sims
Sent: Wednesday, December 23, 2009 1:06 PM
Subject: DCI w06 builds!



There is a draw proposed for the DCI: 3-way Austria France Norway. Vote yay / nay with fall orders. Requires 6 yes-votes to pass.
Note tho this is a draw for the stats, the DCI would go to the highest center-count, or Norway if it passes.

RETREATS:

England: disband F London
Italy: A Venice - Rome

BUILDS:
Austria: Build F Trieste, A Budapest
France: Build F Marseilles, A Paris
Germany: Remove A Silesia
Italy: Remove A Ukraine
Russia: Build F Sevastopol
Norway: Remove F London, F Norwegian Sea

That’s it for this short and sweet holiday turn. Want a bit slower for the next one?

Spring 07 is due Monday Jan 4, 3pm Central.
Enjoy,
-mike

[Reply]

DC-272 Winter 1459 Adjudication - TheWhiteWolf   (Dec 23, 2009, 12:57 pm)
Guys,
Sorry for the delay. Some jerk mall Santa got an average 10 bucks a minute from me yesterday, after waiting over 2 1/2 hours to see him. Needless to say I'm disgruntled by modern-day Christmas.


"Irresolute republics never take a course except by force; for their weakness never allows them to resolve upon anything where there is a doubt; and if that doubt is not overcome by some force, they remain forever in a state of suspense." - Niccoló Machiavelli, The Discourses. 1517


Players:

Austria: Aidan Slattery <AiSlattery(at)aol.com>
France: Mark Utterbach <MDemagogue(at)gmail.com>
Florence: Joe Babinsack <chaosonejoe(at)yahoo.com>
Milan: Nick Cherrier <zeclient(at)hotmail.com>
Naples: Nathan Deily <ndeily(at)yahoo.com>
Papacy: Kevin Burt <Brutus(at)wbhsi.net>
Turkey: Max Victory <maxatrest(at)yahoo.co.uk>
Venice: Garry Bledsoe <kielmarch(at)hotmail.com>


Orders:

France:
Build A Austria
Build A Swiss

Milan:
Remove A Como

Venice:
Build A Carniola
Build A Croatia
Build A Trent


Unit Positions: (SCs/Units)

Austria: ELIMINATED 1459

France: (9/9)
Armies - Aus, Sav, Sla, Slu, Swi, Tur, Tyr
Fleets - Pro, Sar

Florence: (11/11)
Armies - Flo, Luc, Rom, Spo, Urb
Fleets - Cor, LS, Gen, Pio, Psa, Sie

Milan: (1/1)
Armies - Mon

Naples: ELIMINATED 1456

Papacy: ELIMINATED 1456

Turkey: (9/9)
Armies - Aqu, Cap
Fleets - CM, Dal, LA, Nap, Pal, TS, WM

Venice: (14/14)
Armies - Ber, Bol, Cre, Crn, Cro, Fer, For, Hun, Man, Mil, Pav, Trn
Fleets - Anc, UA


Deadline:

Spring 1460 is due Wednesday, 6 January at 6pm EST (11pm GMT,) due to a player absence and the holiday. Happy everything!
Any issues or errors, let me know.


Map and RP file are attached for your convenience, enjoy!

Thanks all,
The White Wolf
I'm a Firefly fan and proud! Read my fiction:
http://www.fanfiction.net/u/1369632/

[Reply]

DCI w06 builds! - FuzzyLogic   (Dec 23, 2009, 12:57 pm)
There is a draw proposed for the DCI: 3-way Austria France Norway. Vote yay / nay with fall orders. Requires 6 yes-votes to pass.
Note tho this is a draw for the stats, the DCI would go to the highest center-count, or Norway if it passes.

RETREATS:

England: disband F London
Italy: A Venice - Rome

BUILDS:
Austria: Build F Trieste, A Budapest
France: Build F Marseilles, A Paris
Germany: Remove A Silesia
Italy: Remove A Ukraine
Russia: Build F Sevastopol
Norway: Remove F London, F Norwegian Sea

That’s it for this short and sweet holiday turn. Want a bit slower for the next one?

Spring 07 is due Monday Jan 4, 3pm Central.
Enjoy,
-mike

[Reply]

DCI w06 builds! (DC Invitational) FuzzyLogic Dec 23, 01:01 pm
Actually Austria is in the lead by center-count as of this turn, Dan would win the DCI if it’s called a draw.

From: Michael Sims
Sent: Wednesday, December 23, 2009 1:06 PM
Subject: DCI w06 builds!



There is a draw proposed for the DCI: 3-way Austria France Norway. Vote yay / nay with fall orders. Requires 6 yes-votes to pass.
Note tho this is a draw for the stats, the DCI would go to the highest center-count, or Norway if it passes.

RETREATS:

England: disband F London
Italy: A Venice - Rome

BUILDS:
Austria: Build F Trieste, A Budapest
France: Build F Marseilles, A Paris
Germany: Remove A Silesia
Italy: Remove A Ukraine
Russia: Build F Sevastopol
Norway: Remove F London, F Norwegian Sea

That’s it for this short and sweet holiday turn. Want a bit slower for the next one?

Spring 07 is due Monday Jan 4, 3pm Central.
Enjoy,
-mike
DCI w06 builds! (DC Invitational) Nigs Dec 23, 01:32 pm
I've looked at the map, and realised why my orders didn't work out as expected... we were using the wrong page in the atllas. MOS presumably is Montevideos, Sev Sen Salvador (maybe issues with Cyrillic alphabet?)

Off to plan a resurgence now the smoke of war has lifted


Nigs

Subject: RE: DCI w06 builds!
Date: Wed, 23 Dec 2009 13:01:39 -0600
From: mike(at)fuzzylogicllc.net
To: ddz999cat23(at)yahoo.com; drew3739o(at)yahoo.com; kielmarch(at)hotmail.com; jhack16(at)gmail.com; Maxatrest(at)yahoo.co.uk; m_don_j(at)hotmail.com; frankmartin(at)surewest.net; jmsaralegui(at)gmail.com; nephilli99(at)hotmail.com; matthew.kremer(at)yale.edu; smegdwarf(at)yahoo.com; dci(at)diplomaticcorp.com

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Actually Austria is in the lead by center-count as of this turn, Dan would win the DCI if it’s called a draw.

From: Michael Sims
Sent: Wednesday, December 23, 2009 1:06 PM
Subject: DCI w06 builds!



There is a draw proposed for the DCI: 3-way Austria France Norway. Vote yay / nay with fall orders. Requires 6 yes-votes to pass.
Note tho this is a draw for the stats, the DCI would go to the highest center-count, or Norway if it passes.

RETREATS:

England: disband F London
Italy: A Venice - Rome

BUILDS:
Austria: Build F Trieste, A Budapest
France: Build F Marseilles, A Paris
Germany: Remove A Silesia
Italy: Remove A Ukraine
Russia: Build F Sevastopol
Norway: Remove F London, F Norwegian Sea

That’s it for this short and sweet holiday turn. Want a bit slower for the next one?

Spring 07 is due Monday Jan 4, 3pm Central.
Enjoy,
-mike


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DCI w06 builds! (DC Invitational) ddz999cat23 Dec 23, 10:15 pm
Norway, Austria? Jorge, Dan? In the end does it really matter either way? The point in this Christmas season is that we all find common ground. Why than focus on what divides us? I say vote YES no matter who "benefits". And really, aren't we all winners here?


From: Michael Sims <mike(at)fuzzylogicllc.net>
To: ddz999cat23(at)yahoo.com; drew3739o(at)yahoo.com; Garry Bledsoe <kielmarch(at)hotmail.com>; jhack16(at)gmail.com; Maxatrest(at)yahoo.co.uk; m_don_j(at)hotmail.com; frankmartin(at)surewest.net; jmsaralegui(at)gmail.com; nephilli99(at)hotmail.com; matthew.kremer(at)yale.edu; smegdwarf(at)yahoo.com; dci <dci(at)diplomaticcorp.com>
Sent: Wed, December 23, 2009 1:01:39 PM
Subject: RE: DCI w06 builds!


Actually Austria is in the lead by center-count as of this turn, Dan would win the DCI if it’s called a draw.

From: Michael Sims
Sent: Wednesday, December 23, 2009 1:06 PM
Subject: DCI w06 builds!



There is a draw proposed for the DCI: 3-way Austria France Norway. Vote yay / nay with fall orders. Requires 6 yes-votes to pass.
Note tho this is a draw for the stats, the DCI would go to the highest center-count, or Norway if it passes.

RETREATS:

England: disband F London
Italy: A Venice - Rome

BUILDS:
Austria: Build F Trieste, A Budapest
France: Build F Marseilles, A Paris
Germany: Remove A Silesia
Italy: Remove A Ukraine
Russia: Build F Sevastopol
Norway: Remove F London, F Norwegian Sea

That’s it for this short and sweet holiday turn. Want a bit slower for the next one?

Spring 07 is due Monday Jan 4, 3pm Central.
Enjoy,
-mike
DCI w06 builds! (DC Invitational) txurce Dec 23, 10:20 pm
That was funny enough to get 99% of my vote.  It's a shame that stodgy old DC requires unanimity on these issues.

Jorge

On Wed, Dec 23, 2009 at 8:15 PM, Dan Dzikowicz <ddz999cat23(at)yahoo.com ([email]ddz999cat23(at)yahoo.com[/email])> wrote:

Norway, Austria?  Jorge, Dan?  In the end does it really matter either way?  The point in this Christmas season is that we all find common ground.  Why than focus on what divides us?  I say vote YES no matter who "benefits".  And really, aren't we all winners here?



From: Michael Sims <mike(at)fuzzylogicllc.net ([email]mike(at)fuzzylogicllc.net[/email])>
To: ddz999cat23(at)yahoo.com ([email]ddz999cat23(at)yahoo.com[/email]); drew3739o(at)yahoo.com ([email]drew3739o(at)yahoo.com[/email]); Garry Bledsoe <kielmarch(at)hotmail.com ([email]kielmarch(at)hotmail.com[/email])>; jhack16(at)gmail.com ([email]jhack16(at)gmail.com[/email]); Maxatrest(at)yahoo.co.uk ([email]Maxatrest(at)yahoo.co.uk[/email]); m_don_j(at)hotmail.com ([email]m_don_j(at)hotmail.com[/email]); frankmartin(at)surewest.net ([email]frankmartin(at)surewest.net[/email]); jmsaralegui(at)gmail.com ([email]jmsaralegui(at)gmail.com[/email]); nephilli99(at)hotmail.com ([email]nephilli99(at)hotmail.com[/email]); matthew.kremer(at)yale.edu ([email]matthew.kremer(at)yale.edu[/email]); smegdwarf(at)yahoo.com ([email]smegdwarf(at)yahoo.com[/email]); dci <dci(at)diplomaticcorp.com ([email]dci(at)diplomaticcorp.com[/email])>
Sent: Wed, December 23, 2009 1:01:39 PM

Subject: RE: DCI w06 builds!




Actually Austria is in the lead by center-count as of this turn, Dan would win the DCI if it’s called a draw.
 
From: Michael Sims
Sent: Wednesday, December 23, 2009 1:06 PM
Subject: DCI w06 builds!


 
There is a draw proposed for the DCI:  3-way Austria France Norway.  Vote yay / nay with fall orders.  Requires 6 yes-votes to pass.
Note tho this is a draw for the stats, the DCI would go to the highest center-count, or Norway if it passes.
 
RETREATS:
 
England: disband F London
Italy: A Venice - Rome
 
BUILDS:
Austria: Build F Trieste, A Budapest
France: Build F Marseilles, A Paris
Germany: Remove A Silesia
Italy: Remove A Ukraine
Russia: Build F Sevastopol
Norway: Remove F London, F Norwegian Sea
 
That’s it for this short and sweet holiday turn.  Want a bit slower for the next one? 
 
Spring 07 is due Monday Jan 4, 3pm Central.
Enjoy,
-mike
 







DCI w06 builds! (DC Invitational) AceRimmer Dec 23, 10:23 pm
If we're all winners, then shouldn't it be a 6-way draw proposal? I'd vote for THAT one.

--- On Wed, 12/23/09, Dan Dzikowicz <ddz999cat23(at)yahoo.com> wrote:

From: Dan Dzikowicz <ddz999cat23(at)yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: DCI w06 builds!
To: "Michael Sims" <mike(at)fuzzylogicllc.net>, drew3739o(at)yahoo.com, "Garry Bledsoe" <kielmarch(at)hotmail.com>, jhack16(at)gmail.com, Maxatrest(at)yahoo.co.uk, m_don_j(at)hotmail.com, frankmartin(at)surewest.net, jmsaralegui(at)gmail.com, nephilli99(at)hotmail.com, matthew.kremer(at)yale.edu, smegdwarf(at)yahoo.com, "dci" <dci(at)diplomaticcorp.com>
Date: Wednesday, December 23, 2009, 10:15 PM
Norway, Austria? 
Jorge, Dan?  In the end does it really matter either
way?  The point in this Christmas season is that we all
find common ground.  Why than focus on what divides
us?  I say vote YES no matter who
"benefits".  And really, aren't we all
winners here?

From:
Michael Sims <mike(at)fuzzylogicllc.net>
To:
ddz999cat23(at)yahoo.com; drew3739o(at)yahoo.com; Garry Bledsoe
<kielmarch(at)hotmail.com>; jhack16(at)gmail.com;
Maxatrest(at)yahoo.co.uk; m_don_j(at)hotmail.com;
frankmartin(at)surewest.net; jmsaralegui(at)gmail.com;
nephilli99(at)hotmail.com; matthew.kremer(at)yale.edu;
smegdwarf(at)yahoo.com; dci <dci(at)diplomaticcorp.com>
Sent: Wed,
December 23, 2009 1:01:39 PM
Subject: RE:
DCI w06 builds!















Actually
Austria is in the lead by center-count as of this turn,
Dan would win the DCI if it’s called a draw.


 





From: Michael Sims

Sent: Wednesday, December 23, 2009 1:06 PM

Subject: DCI w06 builds!





 

There is a
draw proposed for the DCI:  3-way Austria France
Norway.  Vote yay / nay with fall orders. 
Requires 6 yes-votes to
pass.

Note tho this
is a draw for the stats, the DCI would go to the
highest center-count, or Norway if it passes.


 

RETREATS:


 

England:
disband F London

Italy: A
Venice - Rome


 

BUILDS:

Austria:
Build F Trieste, A Budapest

France: Build
F Marseilles, A Paris

Germany:
Remove A Silesia

Italy: Remove
A Ukraine

Russia: Build
F Sevastopol

Norway:
Remove F London, F Norwegian Sea


 

That’s it
for this short and sweet holiday turn.  Want a
bit slower for the next one? 


 

Spring 07 is
due Monday Jan 4, 3pm Central.

Enjoy,

-mike


 









DCI w06 builds! (DC Invitational) Nigs Dec 24, 08:11 am
Surely we should take recent form into account? Say rate of growth in the last year ; - )

If everyone is ready for the game to end, I'll not block it.


Merry Christmas


Nigs




Date: Wed, 23 Dec 2009 20:23:36 -0800
From: smegdwarf(at)yahoo.com
Subject: Re: DCI w06 builds!
To: mike(at)fuzzylogicllc.net; drew3739o(at)yahoo.com; kielmarch(at)hotmail.com; jhack16(at)gmail.com; Maxatrest(at)yahoo.co.uk; m_don_j(at)hotmail.com; frankmartin(at)surewest.net; jmsaralegui(at)gmail.com; nephilli99(at)hotmail.com; matthew.kremer(at)yale.edu; dci(at)diplomaticcorp.com; ddz999cat23(at)yahoo.com

If we're all winners, then shouldn't it be a 6-way draw proposal? I'd vote for THAT one.

--- On Wed, 12/23/09, Dan Dzikowicz <ddz999cat23(at)yahoo.com> wrote:

[quote:ee26c085dc]From: Dan Dzikowicz <ddz999cat23(at)yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: DCI w06 builds!
To: "Michael Sims" <mike(at)fuzzylogicllc.net>, drew3739o(at)yahoo.com, "Garry Bledsoe" <kielmarch(at)hotmail.com>, jhack16(at)gmail.com, Maxatrest(at)yahoo.co.uk, m_don_j(at)hotmail.com, frankmartin(at)surewest.net, jmsaralegui(at)gmail.com, nephilli99(at)hotmail.com, matthew.kremer(at)yale.edu, smegdwarf(at)yahoo.com, "dci" <dci(at)diplomaticcorp.com>
Date: Wednesday, December 23, 2009, 10:15 PM
Norway, Austria?
Jorge, Dan? In the end does it really matter either
way? The point in this Christmas season is that we all
find common ground. Why than focus on what divides
us? I say vote YES no matter who
"benefits". And really, aren't we all
winners here?

From:
Michael Sims <mike(at)fuzzylogicllc.net>
To:
ddz999cat23(at)yahoo.com; drew3739o(at)yahoo.com; Garry Bledsoe
<kielmarch(at)hotmail.com>; jhack16(at)gmail.com;
Maxatrest(at)yahoo.co.uk; m_don_j(at)hotmail.com;
frankmartin(at)surewest.net; jmsaralegui(at)gmail.com;
nephilli99(at)hotmail.com; matthew.kremer(at)yale.edu;
smegdwarf(at)yahoo.com; dci <dci(at)diplomaticcorp.com>
Sent: Wed,
December 23, 2009 1:01:39 PM
Subject: RE:
DCI w06 builds!















Actually
Austria is in the lead by center-count as of this turn,
Dan would win the DCI if it’s called a draw.








From: Michael Sims

Sent: Wednesday, December 23, 2009 1:06 PM

Subject: DCI w06 builds!







There is a
draw proposed for the DCI: 3-way Austria France
Norway. Vote yay / nay with fall orders.
Requires 6 yes-votes to
pass.

Note tho this
is a draw for the stats, the DCI would go to the
highest center-count, or Norway if it passes.




RETREATS:




England:
disband F London

Italy: A
Venice - Rome




BUILDS:

Austria:
Build F Trieste, A Budapest

France: Build
F Marseilles, A Paris

Germany:
Remove A Silesia

Italy: Remove
A Ukraine

Russia: Build
F Sevastopol

Norway:
Remove F London, F Norwegian Sea




That’s it
for this short and sweet holiday turn. Want a
bit slower for the next one?




Spring 07 is
due Monday Jan 4, 3pm Central.

Enjoy,

-mike















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DCI w06 builds! (DC Invitational) jhack16 Dec 24, 04:12 pm
Game ending?  C'mon we're only warming up guys.... With Dan seemingly (??) opting for the draw that means the field is wide open..
 
Frank, we really miss your press, come back, Syria is open...
 
 
Joe
 
 
 


 
On Thu, Dec 24, 2009 at 2:10 PM, Nigel PHILLIPS <nephilli99(at)hotmail.com ([email]nephilli99(at)hotmail.com[/email])> wrote:

Surely we should take recent form into account? Say rate of growth in the last year ; - )

If everyone is ready for the game to end, I'll not block it.


Merry Christmas


Nigs




[quote:d7c5d286d5]Date: Wed, 23 Dec 2009 20:23:36 -0800
From: smegdwarf(at)yahoo.com ([email]smegdwarf(at)yahoo.com[/email])
Subject: Re: DCI w06 builds!


To: mike(at)fuzzylogicllc.net ([email]mike(at)fuzzylogicllc.net[/email]); drew3739o(at)yahoo.com ([email]drew3739o(at)yahoo.com[/email]); kielmarch(at)hotmail.com ([email]kielmarch(at)hotmail.com[/email]); jhack16(at)gmail.com ([email]jhack16(at)gmail.com[/email]); Maxatrest(at)yahoo.co.uk ([email]Maxatrest(at)yahoo.co.uk[/email]); m_don_j(at)hotmail.com ([email]m_don_j(at)hotmail.com[/email]); frankmartin(at)surewest.net ([email]frankmartin(at)surewest.net[/email]); jmsaralegui(at)gmail.com ([email]jmsaralegui(at)gmail.com[/email]); nephilli99(at)hotmail.com ([email]nephilli99(at)hotmail.com[/email]); matthew.kremer(at)yale.edu ([email]matthew.kremer(at)yale.edu[/email]); dci(at)diplomaticcorp.com ([email]dci(at)diplomaticcorp.com[/email]); ddz999cat23(at)yahoo.com ([email]ddz999cat23(at)yahoo.com[/email])



If we're all winners, then shouldn't it be a 6-way draw proposal? I'd vote for THAT one.

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[quote:d7c5d286d5]From: Dan Dzikowicz <ddz999cat23(at)yahoo.com ([email]ddz999cat23(at)yahoo.com[/email])>
Subject: Re: DCI w06 builds!
To: "Michael Sims" <mike(at)fuzzylogicllc.net ([email]mike(at)fuzzylogicllc.net[/email])>, drew3739o(at)yahoo.com ([email]drew3739o(at)yahoo.com[/email]), "Garry Bledsoe" <kielmarch(at)hotmail.com ([email]kielmarch(at)hotmail.com[/email])>, jhack16(at)gmail.com ([email]jhack16(at)gmail.com[/email]), Maxatrest(at)yahoo.co.uk ([email]Maxatrest(at)yahoo.co.uk[/email]), m_don_j(at)hotmail.com ([email]m_don_j(at)hotmail.com[/email]), frankmartin(at)surewest.net ([email]frankmartin(at)surewest.net[/email]), jmsaralegui(at)gmail.com ([email]jmsaralegui(at)gmail.com[/email]), nephilli99(at)hotmail.com ([email]nephilli99(at)hotmail.com[/email]), matthew.kremer(at)yale.edu ([email]matthew.kremer(at)yale.edu[/email]), smegdwarf(at)yahoo.com ([email]smegdwarf(at)yahoo.com[/email]), "dci" <dci(at)diplomaticcorp.com ([email]dci(at)diplomaticcorp.com[/email])>
Date: Wednesday, December 23, 2009, 10:15 PM
Norway, Austria? 
Jorge, Dan?  In the end does it really matter either
way?  The point in this Christmas season is that we all
find common ground.  Why than focus on what divides
us?  I say vote YES no matter who
"benefits".  And really, aren't we all
winners here?

From:
Michael Sims <mike(at)fuzzylogicllc.net ([email]mike(at)fuzzylogicllc.net[/email])>
To:
ddz999cat23(at)yahoo.com ([email]ddz999cat23(at)yahoo.com[/email]); drew3739o(at)yahoo.com ([email]drew3739o(at)yahoo.com[/email]); Garry Bledsoe
<kielmarch(at)hotmail.com ([email]kielmarch(at)hotmail.com[/email])>; jhack16(at)gmail.com ([email]jhack16(at)gmail.com[/email]);
Maxatrest(at)yahoo.co.uk ([email]Maxatrest(at)yahoo.co.uk[/email]); m_don_j(at)hotmail.com ([email]m_don_j(at)hotmail.com[/email]);
frankmartin(at)surewest.net ([email]frankmartin(at)surewest.net[/email]); jmsaralegui(at)gmail.com ([email]jmsaralegui(at)gmail.com[/email]);
nephilli99(at)hotmail.com ([email]nephilli99(at)hotmail.com[/email]); matthew.kremer(at)yale.edu ([email]matthew.kremer(at)yale.edu[/email]);
smegdwarf(at)yahoo.com ([email]smegdwarf(at)yahoo.com[/email]); dci <dci(at)diplomaticcorp.com ([email]dci(at)diplomaticcorp.com[/email])>
Sent: Wed,
December 23, 2009 1:01:39 PM
Subject: RE:
DCI w06 builds!















Actually
Austria is in the lead by center-count as of this turn,
Dan would win the DCI if it’s called a draw.


 





From: Michael Sims

Sent: Wednesday, December 23, 2009 1:06 PM

Subject: DCI w06 builds!





 

There is a
draw proposed for the DCI:  3-way Austria France
Norway.  Vote yay / nay with fall orders. 
Requires 6 yes-votes to
pass.

Note tho this
is a draw for the stats, the DCI would go to the
highest center-count, or Norway if it passes.


 

RETREATS:


 

England:
disband F London

Italy: A
Venice - Rome


 

BUILDS:

Austria:
Build F Trieste, A Budapest

France: Build
F Marseilles, A Paris

Germany:
Remove A Silesia

Italy: Remove
A Ukraine

Russia: Build
F Sevastopol

Norway:
Remove F London, F Norwegian Sea


 

That’s it
for this short and sweet holiday turn.  Want a
bit slower for the next one? 


 

Spring 07 is
due Monday Jan 4, 3pm Central.

Enjoy,

-mike


 












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DC270: Fall 1906 Results - dipknight   (Dec 23, 2009, 9:10 am)
GM’s remarks:
 
Ok, I’ve been asked by a couple of people to not get so worked up about the deadline.  So, I guess the deadlines are no longer mandatory.  If you would like to get your order in by the deadline I set below . . . I will consider if I am interested in providing an adjudication at that time.
 
I have performed England’s retreats automatically due to the situation that becomes obvious below.
 
I did not receive orders from France; however, my records show this is his first NMR.  Michael if you are still with us, please drop me a line otherwise France falls into Civil Disorder (CD) for the remainder of the game.
 
The Players:
Austria:     Dan Huck                   aefgirt7(at)yahoo.com ([email]aefgirt7(at)yahoo.com[/email])     
England:   Jack McHugh             jwmchughjr(at)gmail.com ([email]jwmchughjr(at)gmail.com[/email])
France:     Michael Thompson    psychosis(at)sky.com ([email]psychosis(at)sky.com[/email])
Germany:  Joe Babinsack           chaosonejoe(at)yahoo.com ([email]chaosonejoe(at)yahoo.com[/email])
Italy:          Ian Shaw                   ianxshaw(at)gmail.com ([email]ianxshaw(at)gmail.com[/email])
Russia:      Joe Payne                 josepayne(at)gmail.com ([email]josepayne(at)gmail.com[/email]) 
Turkey:      Brandon Wade          bwhotmale1(at)hotmail.com ([email]bwhotmale1(at)hotmail.com[/email])
 
The Orders:
Austria:
   F bul(sc) Hold
   A gal - sil (*Fails*)
   A rum Supports A sev
   A sev Supports A rum (*Cut*)
   A trl Hold
   F tys - nap
   A ukr Supports A war
   A war Supports A ukr (*Cut*)
 
England:
   A edi - nwg (*Dislodged*)
   F lvp - cly (*Dislodged*)
 
France:
   F mao, no move received
   A spa, no move received (*Disbanded*)
 
Germany:
   F ber - pru
   A bre Hold
   A bur - mun
   F eng - mao (*Fails*)
   A gas - spa (*Fails*)
   F iri Supports F cly - lvp
   A mun - boh
   F nth - edi
   A sil Supports A lvn - war (*Cut*)
 
Italy:
   F lyo - spa(sc)
   A mar Supports F lyo - spa(sc)
   A tri - ven
 
Russia:
   A ank - con (*Fails*)
   A arm - sev (*Fails*)
   F bla Supports A arm - sev
   F cly - lvp
   A lvn - war (*Fails*)
   A mos Supports A lvn - war
   F nwg Supports F nth - edi
 
Turkey:
   F con, no move received
   F ank - blk (*Illegal Orders*) 
   A smy - arm (*Fails*)
 
Retreats:
   England disbands A Edinburgh
   England disbands F Liverpool
 
Centers and Unit Positions:
Austria:
   Centers (11) bud, bul, gre, nap, rum, ser, sev, tri, tun, vie, war.
   Units: F bul(sc), A gal, F nap, A rum, A sev, A trl, A ukr, A war
   Build/Disband: +3
 
England:
   Centers (0):
   Units:
   Build/disband: 0
 
France:
   Centers (1): por.
   Units: F mao
   Build/Disband: 0
 
 Germany:
   Centers (10): bel, ber, bre, den, edi, hol, kie, lon, mun, par.
   Units: A boh, A bre, F edi, F eng, A gas, F iri, A mun, F pru, A sil
  Build/Disbands: +1
 
Italy:
   Centers (4): mar, rom, spa, ven.
   Units: A mar, F spa(sc), A ven
   Build/Disband: +1
 
Russia:
   Centers: (6): ank, lvp, mos, nwy, stp, swe.
   Units: A ank, A arm, F bla, F lvp, A lvn, A mos, F nwg
   Build/Disband: -1
 
Turkey:
   Centers (2): con, smy.
   Units: F con, A smy
   Build/Disband: 0
 
Deadline:
 
1906 Winter Builds/Disbands: Monday; December 28, 24:00 Hrs GMT
 
Maps of the orders, retreats and results, and the dpy file are attached for your use. 
 
Best of luck in the next season,
                                              Darryl (GM)

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DC270: Fall 1906 Results (dc270) dipknight Dec 31, 03:43 am
GM’s remarks:
 
It seems that my point has been made; I have received a fair amount of mail from all of you that that the Deadlines should be mandatory (per the game rules).
 
Here are a few things that might help; one, if negotiations are taking longer than you expected, please, ask for an extension.  Don’t leave me in the dark wondering why you have not sent in orders.  Two, keep me informed of your absences.  If I know you are not going to be available, I can set an appropriate deadline around your absences. Three, it doesn’t hurt anything to send in preliminary orders (what you think your orders will be) at the beginning of the season and then follow them with final orders before the end of the season.
 
At this point, we will resume as we were before; the deadlines are mandatory and you will be automatically removed if you NMR more than once.
 
The Players:
Austria:      Dan Huck                   aefgirt7(at)yahoo.com ([email]aefgirt7(at)yahoo.com[/email])     
England:    Jack McHugh             jwmchughjr(at)gmail.com ([email]jwmchughjr(at)gmail.com[/email])
France:      Michael Thompson    psychosis(at)sky.com ([email]psychosis(at)sky.com[/email])
Germany:  Joe Babinsack           chaosonejoe(at)yahoo.com ([email]chaosonejoe(at)yahoo.com[/email])
Italy:           Ian Shaw                   ianxshaw(at)gmail.com ([email]ianxshaw(at)gmail.com[/email])
Russia:       Joe Payne                 josepayne(at)gmail.com ([email]josepayne(at)gmail.com[/email]) 
Turkey:       Brandon Wade          bwhotmale1(at)hotmail.com ([email]bwhotmale1(at)hotmail.com[/email])
 
The Orders:
Austria:
   Build A tri
   Build A vie
   Build A bud
 
England:
   Eliminated Winter 1906
 
France:
   No Orders Required
 
Germany:
   Build A ber
 
Italy:
   Build A rom
 
Russia:
   Remove F cly (*Illegal Orders*)
   Defaults, removing F liv
 
Turkey:
   No Orders Required
 
Retreats:
   None Required
 
Centers and Unit Positions:
Austria:
   Centers (11) bud bul gre nap rum ser sev tri tun vie war
   Units: A bud F bul(sc) A gal F nap A rum A sev A tri A trl A ukr A vie A war
   Build/Disband: 0
 
England:
   Eliminated Winter 1906
 
France:
   Centers (1): por
   Units: F mao
   Build/Disband: 0
 
 Germany:
   Centers (10): bel ber bre den edi hol kie lon mun par
   Units: A ber A boh A bre F edi F eng A gas F iri A mun F pru A sil
  Build/Disbands: 0
 
Italy:
   Centers (4): mar rom spa ven
   Units: A mar A rom F spa(sc) A ven
   Build/Disband: 0
 
Russia:
   Centers: (6): ank lvp mos nwy stp swe
   Units: A ank A arm F bla A lvn A mos F nwg
   Build/Disband: 0
 
Turkey:
   Centers (2): con smy
   Units: F con A smy
   Build/Disband: 0
 
Deadline:
 
1907 Spring Orders: Thursday; January 7, 2010, 24:00 Hrs GMT
 
Maps of the orders and results, and the dpy file are attached for your use. 
 
Best of luck in the next season,
                                              Darryl (GM)
DC 285: Spring 300 BC results - blueraider0 at gmail.com   (Dec 23, 2009, 12:26 am)
Gentlemen,
 
All the moves were in on time, and have been processed!  Everyone explodes outward; nobody is taking any chances in this game!  Off to an exciting start!  Look at all the exclaimation points!
 
Game map attached.  The map didn't come out as clean as I would like  - that's what I get for trying to develop my own adjudication process.  Hopefully future maps will be cleaner.....
 
Egypt:
F Alexandria to Libyan Sea
A Thebes to Sinai
A Memphis to Cyrene
 
Carthage:
A Carthage to Mauretania
A Cirta to Numidia
F Thapsus to Punic Sea
 
Rome:
F Neapolis to Sicilia
A Roma to Eturia
A Ravenna to Venetia
 
Greece:
A Macedonia to Byzantium
A Athens to Epirus
F Sparta to Agean Sea
 
Persian:
F Sidon to Cilician Strait
A Damascus to Armenia
A Antioch to Sidon
 
 
I've heard no complaints, so deadline is 12/30 at 12:00 EST (I took the liberty of checking all of your profiles, and found everyone seems to be based in America, so I won't be referring to GMT because that doesn't seem to be a useful benchmark in our case.  I live on the east coast, therefore times will be in EST.  For clarity's sake, though, I will still use a 24 hr clock).  If anyone wants the deadline pushed back, just let me know ASAP.
 
Please let me know of any errors you may find.  I am not perfect.
 
-Maslow
--
"It's like in the great stories, Mr. Frodo. The ones that really mattered. Full of darkness and danger they were. and sometimes you didn't want to know the end because how could the end be happy? How could the world go back to the way it was when so much bad had happened? But in the end, it's only a passing thing. The shadow, even the darkness must pass. A new day will come. And when the sun shines it will shine out the clearer. Those were the stories that stayed with you - That meant something. Even if you were too small to understand why. But I think, Mr. Frodo, I do understand. I know now. Folk in those stories had lots of chances of turning back only they didn't. They kept going because they were holding onto something."
"What are we holding onto, Sam?"
"That there's some good in this world, Mr. Frodo. And it's worth fighting for."

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DC 282, Autumn 1902 - alwayshunted   (Dec 22, 2009, 6:29 pm)
Hi folks.

I have orders for both retreats, so here you go. I've attached the status as well, so you've all got until Monday the fourth of January to figure out your adjustments. I'm guessing the British are no longer on the German's Christmas list.......

----------------------------------
RETREATS:

France:
F Western Mediterranean - Mid-Atlantic Ocean

Italy:
disband A Marseilles


STATUS:

Ownership:
Austria: Greece, Serbia, Trieste, Vienna.
England: Belgium, Denmark, Edinburgh, Holland, Kiel,
Liverpool, London, Norway, Sweden.
France: Brest, Marseilles, Paris, Portugal, Spain.
Germany: Berlin, Munich.
Italy: Naples, Rome, Tunis, Venice.
Russia: Budapest, Moscow, Rumania, Sevastopol, St Petersburg,
Warsaw.
Turkey: Ankara, Bulgaria, Constantinople, Smyrna.

Adjustments:
Austria: Supp 4 Unit 5 Remove 1
England: Supp 9 Unit 5 Build 3
France: Supp 5 Unit 5 Build 0
Germany: Supp 2 Unit 5 Remove 3
Italy: Supp 4 Unit 3 Build 1
Russia: Supp 6 Unit 5 Build 1
Turkey: Supp 4 Unit 4 Build 0

DEADLINE:

Winter 1902 is due on January 4, 2010, 17:00 MST. That's midnight GMT.
-------------------------------

There you have it. Maps are attached.

Have a great holiday season everybody! Talk to you next year.

Warren

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DC 281 Spring 1903 deadline - untitled36 at yahoo.com   (Dec 22, 2009, 2:08 pm)
I'll be happy to fill the replacement germany position..

John



From: Michael Thompson <psychosis(at)sky.com>
To: blueraider0(at)gmail.com; matthew.jones.d(at)gmail.com; krudge(at)goldenwestradio.com; edbailey1946(at)yahoo.com; wtfleming(at)msn.com; untitled36(at)yahoo.com; William McQuaid <elpresidente112(at)yahoo.ca>
Cc: mike(at)fuzzylogicllc.net; dc281(at)diplomaticcorp.com
Sent: Tue, December 22, 2009 1:47:52 PM
Subject: Re: DC 281 Spring 1903 deadline

Fair enough, I've added you back to the game. However, consider this the last chance saloon...

Still need a replacement Germany though...

Michael

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From: William McQuaid <elpresidente112(at)yahoo.ca>
Subject: Re: DC 281 Spring 1903 deadline
To: psychosis(at)sky.com, blueraider0(at)gmail.com, matthew.jones.d(at)gmail.com, krudge(at)goldenwestradio.com, edbailey1946(at)yahoo.com, wtfleming(at)msn.com, untitled36(at)yahoo.com
Cc: mike(at)fuzzylogicllc.net, dc281(at)diplomaticcorp.com
Date: Tuesday, 22 December, 2009, 19:28

I'm so sorry, everybody! I lost access without warning for the past week or so, and just got back online.
Michael, have you found a replacement for me yet? If not, may I submit orders now and keep my spot?

Will


From: Michael Thompson <psychosis(at)sky.com>
To: blueraider0(at)gmail.com; matthew.jones.d(at)gmail.com; elpresidente112(at)yahoo.ca; krudge(at)goldenwestradio.com; edbailey1946(at)yahoo..com; wtfleming(at)msn.com; untitled36(at)yahoo.com
Cc: mike(at)fuzzylogicllc.net; dc281(at)diplomaticcorp.com
Sent: Mon, December 21, 2009 6:58:13 PM
Subject: Re: DC 281 Spring 1903 deadline

Hello all

Disappointing news this turn, with no orders received from Germany or England for Spring 1903. As this is the second straight season both have not submitted orders (per the diplomaticcorp GM rules, England's lack of a retreat for Autumn 1902 counts as an NMR) I'm going to seek replacement players rather than declare both countries in civil disorder, in the interests of game balance.

This is a disappointing situation, but I hope you'll appreciate why I need to seek replacement players. As soon as new players are identified, I'll be back in touch, with a revised Spring 1903 order deadline. Realistically, this won't be until after the holiday period.

Michael





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DC 281 Spring 1903 deadline - psychosis1973   (Dec 22, 2009, 1:47 pm)
Fair enough, I've added you back to the game. However, consider this the last chance saloon...

Still need a replacement Germany though...

Michael

--- On Tue, 22/12/09, William McQuaid <elpresidente112(at)yahoo.ca> wrote:


From: William McQuaid <elpresidente112(at)yahoo.ca>
Subject: Re: DC 281 Spring 1903 deadline
To: psychosis(at)sky.com, blueraider0(at)gmail.com, matthew.jones.d(at)gmail.com, krudge(at)goldenwestradio.com, edbailey1946(at)yahoo.com, wtfleming(at)msn.com, untitled36(at)yahoo.com
Cc: mike(at)fuzzylogicllc.net, dc281(at)diplomaticcorp.com
Date: Tuesday, 22 December, 2009, 19:28

I'm so sorry, everybody! I lost access without warning for the past week or so, and just got back online.
Michael, have you found a replacement for me yet? If not, may I submit orders now and keep my spot?

Will


From: Michael Thompson <psychosis(at)sky.com>
To: blueraider0(at)gmail.com; matthew.jones.d(at)gmail.com; elpresidente112(at)yahoo.ca; krudge(at)goldenwestradio.com; edbailey1946(at)yahoo.com; wtfleming(at)msn.com; untitled36(at)yahoo.com
Cc: mike(at)fuzzylogicllc.net; dc281(at)diplomaticcorp.com
Sent: Mon, December 21, 2009 6:58:13 PM
Subject: Re: DC 281 Spring 1903 deadline

Hello all

Disappointing news this turn, with no orders received from Germany or England for Spring 1903. As this is the second straight season both have not submitted orders (per the diplomaticcorp GM rules, England's lack of a retreat for Autumn 1902 counts as an NMR) I'm going to seek replacement players rather than declare both countries in civil disorder, in the interests of game balance.

This is a disappointing situation, but I hope you'll appreciate why I need to seek replacement players. As soon as new players are identified, I'll be back in touch, with a revised Spring 1903 order deadline. Realistically, this won't be until after the holiday period.

Michael





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DC 281 Spring 1903 deadline - SensFan33   (Dec 22, 2009, 1:28 pm)
I'm so sorry, everybody! I lost access without warning for the past week or so, and just got back online.
Michael, have you found a replacement for me yet? If not, may I submit orders now and keep my spot?

Will


From: Michael Thompson <psychosis(at)sky.com>
To: blueraider0(at)gmail.com; matthew.jones.d(at)gmail.com; elpresidente112(at)yahoo.ca; krudge(at)goldenwestradio.com; edbailey1946(at)yahoo.com; wtfleming(at)msn.com; untitled36(at)yahoo.com
Cc: mike(at)fuzzylogicllc.net; dc281(at)diplomaticcorp.com
Sent: Mon, December 21, 2009 6:58:13 PM
Subject: Re: DC 281 Spring 1903 deadline

Hello all

Disappointing news this turn, with no orders received from Germany or England for Spring 1903. As this is the second straight season both have not submitted orders (per the diplomaticcorp GM rules, England's lack of a retreat for Autumn 1902 counts as an NMR) I'm going to seek replacement players rather than declare both countries in civil disorder, in the interests of game balance.

This is a disappointing situation, but I hope you'll appreciate why I need to seek replacement players. As soon as new players are identified, I'll be back in touch, with a revised Spring 1903 order deadline. Realistically, this won't be until after the holiday period.

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Unknown - AceRimmer   (Dec 22, 2009, 1:05 pm)
Well, it's taken me a little time to get around to it, but I've finally drafted a few soccer-ball globes that could serve as the basis for a variant.

The thing that I'd *really* like some input on is where to place rivers/canals.

Since I cannot upload images to this site, I've set up a Google sites page with a bit more explanation where you can look at what I'm talking about:

http://sites.google.com/site/truncicosa/home

Please share your wisdom!

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DC269 - The Restart - Viper   (Dec 22, 2009, 11:07 am)
Hey there guys... I have some good news, bad news and then more good news. So here we go.

First, my computer is finally back online. I have access to all my maps and everything is good to go from my end. Thank-you for your patience and I'm sorry I haven't been more communicative in the meantime.

Second, I take off for a conference on Saturday and anticipate being back on the first of January, so we may get your builds in before I go (or maybe not... depending on whether or not everyone gets them in) but the Spring will be a while in coming.

Third, for those who thought this game's pace was too slow even before my computer took off, the Winter Blitz Tournament will be starting up soon. Go to the diplomaticcorp website and look to the top. There will be a graphic advertising the Blitz. One year in each of those games takes only a week and there are no delays allowed. I've played in it the last couple of years and have enjoyed my time there.

So, then, without further ado, let's move on to the Winter adjustments.

Austria: 1 sc - 1 unit = even
England: 2 sc's - 4 units = 2 disbands
France: 10 sc's - 8 units = 2 builds
Italy: 4 sc's - 5 units = 1 disband
Russia: 11 sc's - 10 units = 1 build
Turkey: 6 sc's - 5 units = 1 build

Next deadline: I will set this, as strange as it sounds, for Friday (Christmas Day) 8pm CST, in the hopes that you might be able to get it in before then. I realize this might be a lot to ask, so I won't adjudicate unless I've got all orders in. If we can't get it by then, I'll adjudicate when I get back in January (the 1st).

mvp

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DC269 - The Restart (dc269) FLTeacher Dec 28, 11:53 pm
thought we were gonna have the new phase done a few days ago???

I really want to quit. way too long.

can't we have a reasonable end of game proposal from someone???

On Tue, Dec 22, 2009 at 12:07 PM, Michael Penner <mvpenner(at)yahoo.com ([email]mvpenner(at)yahoo.com[/email])> wrote:

Hey there guys... I have some good news, bad news and then more good news.  So here we go.

First, my computer is finally back online.  I have access to all my maps and everything is good to go from my end.  Thank-you for your patience and I'm sorry I haven't been more communicative in the meantime.

Second, I take off for a conference on Saturday and anticipate being back on the first of January, so we may get your builds in before I go (or maybe not... depending on whether or not everyone gets them in) but the Spring will be a while in coming.

Third, for those who thought this game's pace was too slow even before my computer took off, the Winter Blitz Tournament will be starting up soon.  Go to the diplomaticcorp website and look to the top.  There will be a graphic advertising the Blitz.  One year in each of those games takes only a week and there are no delays allowed.  I've played in it the last couple of years and have enjoyed my time there.

So, then, without further ado, let's move on to the Winter adjustments.

Austria: 1 sc - 1 unit = even
England: 2 sc's - 4 units = 2 disbands
France: 10 sc's - 8 units = 2 builds
Italy: 4 sc's - 5 units = 1 disband
Russia: 11 sc's - 10 units = 1 build
Turkey: 6 sc's - 5 units = 1 build

Next deadline: I will set this, as strange as it sounds, for Friday (Christmas Day) 8pm CST, in the hopes that you might be able to get it in before then.  I realize this might be a lot to ask, so I won't adjudicate unless I've got all orders in.  If we can't get it by then, I'll adjudicate when I get back in January (the 1st).

mvp

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