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DC-244 Spring 1459 Adjudication - TheWhiteWolf   (Aug 12, 2009, 2:38 pm)
Folks,
Thanks for getting all orders in on time again. A DIAS (draw including all survivors) has been proposed. Please vote by the fall deadline.

Players:

England: Mike Hoffman mrh(at)panix.com
France: Andrew d'Adesky andrewdadesky(at)hotmail.com
Holy Roman Empire: Sam Buck Sam_Buck_Productions(at)Mac.com
Russia: Jason K Githraine(at)yahoo.com
Spain: Rodrigo Yanez rpyanez(at)gmail.com
Ottoman Empire: Kevin Burt Brutus(at)wbhsi.net
Venice: Chris Morse camorse22(at)yahoo.com


Orders:

England:
A Burgundy Supports F Gulf of Lyon - Marseilles (*Cut*)
F English Channel - Brest
F Gulf of Lyon - Marseilles (*Fails*)
A Holland - Kiel (*Fails*)
F Irish Sea - Mid-Atlantic Ocean (*Fails*)
A Kiel - Berlin (*Fails*)
F North Sea - English Channel
A Ruhr - Munich
F Tyrrhenian Sea - Ionian Sea (*Dislodged*)

Holy_Roman_Empire:
A Munich - Berlin

Russia:
F Ankara Hold
A Armenia Hold
F Black Sea Supports A Sevastopol - Rumania
A Denmark - Sweden
A Moscow - Warsaw
A Sevastopol - Rumania (*Fails*)
A Ukraine Supports A Moscow - Warsaw

Spain:
F Marseilles Hold
F North Africa Supports F Portugal - Mid-Atlantic Ocean
F Portugal - Mid-Atlantic Ocean
F Spain(sc) Supports F Portugal - Mid-Atlantic Ocean

Ottoman_Emprire:
A Bulgaria Supports A Constantinople
A Constantinople Supports F Ankara
F Smyrna Supports A Constantinople

Venice:
A Budapest - Galicia (*Fails*)
A Galicia - Warsaw (*Fails*)
F Ionian Sea Supports F Naples - Tyrrhenian Sea
F Naples - Tyrrhenian Sea
A Rumania Supports A Budapest - Galicia (*Cut*)
A Serbia Supports A Rumania
A Silesia Supports A Munich - Berlin
A Switzerland - Burgundy (*Fails*)
F Tuscany - Rome
A Venice - Tyrolia
A Warsaw - Livonia


Retreats:

English F Tyrrhenian Sea can retreat to Western Mediterranean, Tuscany, Tunis or OTB.


Unit Positions: (SCs/Units)

England: (9/9)
Armies - Bur, Hol, Kie, Mun
Fleets - Bre, Eng, Iri, Lyo, Tys (pending retreat)

France: ELIMINATED 1457

Holy Roman Empire: (1/1)
Armies - Ber

Russia: (7/7)
Armies - Arm, Sev, Swe, Ukr, War
Fleets - Ank, Bla

Spain: (4/4)
Fleets - MAO, Mar, NAf, Spa(sc)

Ottoman Empire: (3/3)
Armies - Bul, Con
Fleets - Smy

Venice: (11/11)
Armies - Bud, Gal, Lvn, Rum, Ser, Sil, Swi, Trl
Fleets - Ion, Rom, Tys


Deadline:
Summer 1459 is due ((tomorrow)) Thursday, 13 August at 2pm EDT (6pm GMT.) I'll adjudicate as soon as I get the retreat, so if it comes in early, I'll be ready for it.
Any issues or errors, let me know.


Map and RP file are attached for your convenience, enjoy!

Thanks all,
The White Wolf

I'm a Firefly fan and proud! Read my fiction:
http://www.fanfiction.net/u/1369632/

[Reply]

DC259 - Winter 1903 - packrat   (Aug 12, 2009, 1:52 pm)
Believe it man, believe it.

God looked down and sneezed upon you!


From: John R <untitled36(at)yahoo.com>
To: Packrat <brn2dip(at)yahoo.com>; Alan Farrington <alley_cat_1990(at)hotmail.com>; Sean Cable <blueinva(at)cox.net>; Dustin Copass <dustin(at)scarecrowe.com>; Mike Tombu <mtombu(at)gmail.com>; Phillip <ilovethechiefs(at)gmail.com>; blueinva(at)gmail.com; White Wolf <cloudhurler77(at)yahoo.com>
Cc: dc259(at)diplomaticcorp.com
Sent: Wednesday, August 12, 2009 2:09:11 PM
Subject: Re: DC259 - Winter 1903

I can't believe I'm being invaded by little green men...

John



From: Packrat <brn2dip(at)yahoo.com>
To: John R <untitled36(at)yahoo.com>; Alan Farrington <alley_cat_1990(at)hotmail.com>; Sean Cable <blueinva(at)cox.net>; Dustin Copass <dustin(at)scarecrowe.com>; Mike Tombu <mtombu(at)gmail.com>; Phillip <ilovethechiefs(at)gmail.com>; blueinva(at)gmail.com; White Wolf <cloudhurler77(at)yahoo.com>
Cc: dc259(at)diplomaticcorp.com
Sent: Wednesday, August 12, 2009 12:58:34 PM
Subject: Re: DC259 - Winter 1903

BRIGHT green dude - a lot brighter than YOUR units. <grin>


From: John R <untitled36(at)yahoo.com>
To: Packrat <brn2dip(at)yahoo.com>; Alan Farrington <alley_cat_1990(at)hotmail.com>; Sean Cable <blueinva(at)cox.net>; Dustin Copass <dustin(at)scarecrowe.com>; Mike Tombu <mtombu(at)gmail.com>; Phillip <ilovethechiefs(at)gmail.com>; blueinva(at)gmail.com; White Wolf <cloudhurler77(at)yahoo.com>
Cc: dc259(at)diplomaticcorp.com
Sent: Wednesday, August 12, 2009 1:51:29 PM
Subject: Re: DC259 - Winter 1903

Says the guy with GREEN units. I mean, come on!

Smile


From: Packrat <brn2dip(at)yahoo.com>
To: John R <untitled36(at)yahoo.com>; Alan Farrington <alley_cat_1990(at)hotmail.com>; Sean Cable <blueinva(at)cox.net>; Dustin Copass <dustin(at)scarecrowe.com>; Mike Tombu <mtombu(at)gmail.com>; Phillip <ilovethechiefs(at)gmail.com>; blueinva(at)gmail.com; White Wolf <cloudhurler77(at)yahoo.com>
Cc: dc259(at)diplomaticcorp.com
Sent: Wednesday, August 12, 2009 12:50:07 PM
Subject: Re: DC259 - Winter 1903

Of COURSE they're sickly - that's why they're pale blue.


From: John R <untitled36(at)yahoo.com>
To: Packrat <brn2dip(at)yahoo.com>; Alan Farrington <alley_cat_1990(at)hotmail.com>; Sean Cable <blueinva(at)cox.net>; Dustin Copass <dustin(at)scarecrowe.com>; Mike Tombu <mtombu(at)gmail.com>; Phillip <ilovethechiefs(at)gmail.com>; blueinva(at)gmail..com; White Wolf <cloudhurler77(at)yahoo.com>
Cc: dc259(at)diplomaticcorp.com
Sent: Wednesday, August 12, 2009 8:27:33 AM
Subject: Re: DC259 - Winter 1903

exactly, boys. Those french supply centers only produce weak, sickly units. So why not just hand em back to me? I don't want you to be saddled with them. I'm just looking out for your best interests here, guys.

John



From: Packrat <brn2dip(at)yahoo..com>
To: Alan Farrington <alley_cat_1990(at)hotmail.com>; John <untitled36(at)yahoo.com>; Sean Cable <blueinva(at)cox.net>; Dustin Copass <dustin(at)scarecrowe.com>; Mike Tombu <mtombu(at)gmail.com>; Phillip <ilovethechiefs(at)gmail.com>; blueinva(at)gmail.com; White Wolf <cloudhurler77(at)yahoo.com>
Cc: dc259(at)diplomaticcorp.com
Sent: Tuesday, August 11, 2009 6:32:59 PM
Subject: Re: DC259 - Winter 1903

Three French units are only worth one anyway.


From: Alan Farrington <alley_cat_1990(at)hotmail.com>
To: John <untitled36(at)yahoo.com>; Sean Cable <blueinva(at)cox.net>; Dustin Copass <dustin(at)scarecrowe.com>; Packrat <brn2dip(at)yahoo.com>; Mike Tombu <mtombu(at)gmail.com>; Phillip <ilovethechiefs(at)gmail.com>; blueinva(at)gmail.com; White Wolf <cloudhurler77(at)yahoo.com>
Cc: dc259(at)diplomaticcorp.com
Sent: Tuesday, August 11, 2009 6:47:14 PM
Subject: RE: DC259 - Winter 1903

.hmmessage P { margin:0px;padding:0px;} body.hmmessage { font-size:10pt;font-family:Verdana;} If you pay for one french unit and get three then you are overpaying by at least 200%!

-Alan
Date: Tue, 11 Aug 2009 06:17:20 -0700
From: untitled36(at)yahoo.com
Subject: Re: DC259 - Winter 1903
To: blueinva(at)cox.net; dustin(at)scarecrowe.com; brn2dip(at)yahoo.com; mtombu(at)gmail.com; ilovethechiefs(at)gmail.com; alley_cat_1990(at)hotmail.com; blueinva(at)gmail.com; cloudhurler77(at)yahoo.com
CC: dc259(at)diplomaticcorp.com

.ExternalClass DIV {} We have a clearance sale on French units! 3 for the price of 1! This deal (and these units) won't last long, so get yours today! Some restrictions may apply. See store for details.*



*details: just promise to try to keep me alive until the end, and they are yours!

John



From: Sean Cable <blueinva(at)cox.net>
To: Sean Cable <blueinva(at)cox.net>; Dustin <dustin(at)scarecrowe.com>; Packrat <brn2dip(at)yahoo.com>; mike Tombu <mtombu(at)gmail.com>; Philip King <ilovethechiefs(at)gmail.com>; untitled36 <untitled36(at)yahoo.com>; Alan Farrington <alley_cat_1990(at)hotmail.com>; Sean/Blue Cable <blueinva(at)gmail.com>; Andy Jameson <cloudhurler77(at)yahoo.com>
Cc: dc259(at)diplomaticcorp.com
Sent: Sunday, August 9, 2009 8:46:15 AM
Subject: DC259 - Winter 1903

Austria builds Fleet in Trieste and waives
England builds army London
France disbands naf, par, and mao
Germany builds A Munich
Italy builds F Naples, F Rome


Deadlines:

Spring 1904 Thursday 13 August 11:59pm DST (Eastern)





Windows Liveâ„¢: Keep your life in sync. Check it out.

[Reply]

DC259 - Winter 1903 - untitled36 at yahoo.com   (Aug 12, 2009, 1:31 pm)
Bodily Fluid Secretions Diplomacy. That'll make the list of top ten variants.




From: Packrat <brn2dip(at)yahoo.com>
To: John R <untitled36(at)yahoo.com>; Alan Farrington <alley_cat_1990(at)hotmail..com>; Sean Cable <blueinva(at)cox.net>; Dustin Copass <dustin(at)scarecrowe.com>; Mike Tombu <mtombu(at)gmail.com>; Phillip <ilovethechiefs(at)gmail.com>; blueinva(at)gmail.com; White Wolf <cloudhurler77(at)yahoo..com>
Cc: dc259(at)diplomaticcorp.com
Sent: Wednesday, August 12, 2009 1:26:01 PM
Subject: Re: DC259 - Winter 1903

Believe it man, believe it.

God looked down and sneezed upon you!


From: John R <untitled36(at)yahoo.com>
To: Packrat <brn2dip(at)yahoo.com>; Alan Farrington <alley_cat_1990(at)hotmail.com>; Sean Cable <blueinva(at)cox.net>; Dustin Copass <dustin(at)scarecrowe.com>; Mike Tombu <mtombu(at)gmail.com>; Phillip <ilovethechiefs(at)gmail.com>; blueinva(at)gmail.com; White Wolf <cloudhurler77(at)yahoo.com>
Cc: dc259(at)diplomaticcorp.com
Sent: Wednesday, August 12, 2009 2:09:11 PM
Subject: Re: DC259 - Winter 1903

I can't believe I'm being invaded by little green men...

John



From: Packrat <brn2dip(at)yahoo.com>
To: John R <untitled36(at)yahoo.com>; Alan Farrington <alley_cat_1990(at)hotmail.com>; Sean Cable <blueinva(at)cox.net>; Dustin Copass <dustin(at)scarecrowe.com>; Mike Tombu <mtombu(at)gmail.com>; Phillip <ilovethechiefs(at)gmail.com>; blueinva(at)gmail.com; White Wolf <cloudhurler77(at)yahoo.com>
Cc: dc259(at)diplomaticcorp.com
Sent: Wednesday, August 12, 2009 12:58:34 PM
Subject: Re: DC259 - Winter 1903

BRIGHT green dude - a lot brighter than YOUR units. <grin>


From: John R <untitled36(at)yahoo.com>
To: Packrat <brn2dip(at)yahoo.com>; Alan Farrington <alley_cat_1990(at)hotmail.com>; Sean Cable <blueinva(at)cox.net>; Dustin Copass <dustin(at)scarecrowe.com>; Mike Tombu <mtombu(at)gmail.com>; Phillip <ilovethechiefs(at)gmail.com>; blueinva(at)gmail.com; White Wolf <cloudhurler77(at)yahoo.com>
Cc: dc259(at)diplomaticcorp.com
Sent: Wednesday, August 12, 2009 1:51:29 PM
Subject: Re: DC259 - Winter 1903

Says the guy with GREEN units. I mean, come on!

Smile


From: Packrat <brn2dip(at)yahoo.com>
To: John R <untitled36(at)yahoo.com>; Alan Farrington <alley_cat_1990(at)hotmail.com>; Sean Cable <blueinva(at)cox.net>; Dustin Copass <dustin(at)scarecrowe.com>; Mike Tombu <mtombu(at)gmail.com>; Phillip <ilovethechiefs(at)gmail.com>; blueinva(at)gmail.com; White Wolf <cloudhurler77(at)yahoo.com>
Cc: dc259(at)diplomaticcorp.com
Sent: Wednesday, August 12, 2009 12:50:07 PM
Subject: Re: DC259 - Winter 1903

Of COURSE they're sickly - that's why they're pale blue.


From: John R <untitled36(at)yahoo.com>
To: Packrat <brn2dip(at)yahoo.com>; Alan Farrington <alley_cat_1990(at)hotmail.com>; Sean Cable <blueinva(at)cox.net>; Dustin Copass <dustin(at)scarecrowe.com>; Mike Tombu <mtombu(at)gmail.com>; Phillip <ilovethechiefs(at)gmail.com>; blueinva(at)gmail..com; White Wolf <cloudhurler77(at)yahoo.com>
Cc: dc259(at)diplomaticcorp.com
Sent: Wednesday, August 12, 2009 8:27:33 AM
Subject: Re: DC259 - Winter 1903

exactly, boys. Those french supply centers only produce weak, sickly units. So why not just hand em back to me? I don't want you to be saddled with them. I'm just looking out for your best interests here, guys.

John



From: Packrat <brn2dip(at)yahoo..com>
To: Alan Farrington <alley_cat_1990(at)hotmail.com>; John <untitled36(at)yahoo.com>; Sean Cable <blueinva(at)cox.net>; Dustin Copass <dustin(at)scarecrowe.com>; Mike Tombu <mtombu(at)gmail.com>; Phillip <ilovethechiefs(at)gmail.com>; blueinva(at)gmail.com; White Wolf <cloudhurler77(at)yahoo.com>
Cc: dc259(at)diplomaticcorp.com
Sent: Tuesday, August 11, 2009 6:32:59 PM
Subject: Re: DC259 - Winter 1903

Three French units are only worth one anyway.


From: Alan Farrington <alley_cat_1990(at)hotmail.com>
To: John <untitled36(at)yahoo.com>; Sean Cable <blueinva(at)cox.net>; Dustin Copass <dustin(at)scarecrowe.com>; Packrat <brn2dip(at)yahoo.com>; Mike Tombu <mtombu(at)gmail.com>; Phillip <ilovethechiefs(at)gmail.com>; blueinva(at)gmail.com; White Wolf <cloudhurler77(at)yahoo.com>
Cc: dc259(at)diplomaticcorp.com
Sent: Tuesday, August 11, 2009 6:47:14 PM
Subject: RE: DC259 - Winter 1903

.hmmessage P { margin:0px;padding:0px;} body.hmmessage { font-size:10pt;font-family:Verdana;} If you pay for one french unit and get three then you are overpaying by at least 200%!

-Alan
Date: Tue, 11 Aug 2009 06:17:20 -0700
From: untitled36(at)yahoo.com
Subject: Re: DC259 - Winter 1903
To: blueinva(at)cox.net; dustin(at)scarecrowe.com; brn2dip(at)yahoo.com; mtombu(at)gmail.com; ilovethechiefs(at)gmail.com; alley_cat_1990(at)hotmail.com; blueinva(at)gmail.com; cloudhurler77(at)yahoo.com
CC: dc259(at)diplomaticcorp.com

.ExternalClass DIV {} We have a clearance sale on French units! 3 for the price of 1! This deal (and these units) won't last long, so get yours today! Some restrictions may apply. See store for details.*



*details: just promise to try to keep me alive until the end, and they are yours!

John



From: Sean Cable <blueinva(at)cox.net>
To: Sean Cable <blueinva(at)cox.net>; Dustin <dustin(at)scarecrowe.com>; Packrat <brn2dip(at)yahoo.com>; mike Tombu <mtombu(at)gmail.com>; Philip King <ilovethechiefs(at)gmail.com>; untitled36 <untitled36(at)yahoo.com>; Alan Farrington <alley_cat_1990(at)hotmail.com>; Sean/Blue Cable <blueinva(at)gmail.com>; Andy Jameson <cloudhurler77(at)yahoo.com>
Cc: dc259(at)diplomaticcorp.com
Sent: Sunday, August 9, 2009 8:46:15 AM
Subject: DC259 - Winter 1903

Austria builds Fleet in Trieste and waives
England builds army London
France disbands naf, par, and mao
Germany builds A Munich
Italy builds F Naples, F Rome


Deadlines:

Spring 1904 Thursday 13 August 11:59pm DST (Eastern)





Windows Liveâ„¢: Keep your life in sync. Check it out.

[Reply]

DC259 - Winter 1903 - untitled36 at yahoo.com   (Aug 12, 2009, 1:09 pm)
I can't believe I'm being invaded by little green men...

John



From: Packrat <brn2dip(at)yahoo.com>
To: John R <untitled36(at)yahoo.com>; Alan Farrington <alley_cat_1990(at)hotmail.com>; Sean Cable <blueinva(at)cox.net>; Dustin Copass <dustin(at)scarecrowe.com>; Mike Tombu <mtombu(at)gmail.com>; Phillip <ilovethechiefs(at)gmail.com>; blueinva(at)gmail.com; White Wolf <cloudhurler77(at)yahoo.com>
Cc: dc259(at)diplomaticcorp.com
Sent: Wednesday, August 12, 2009 12:58:34 PM
Subject: Re: DC259 - Winter 1903

BRIGHT green dude - a lot brighter than YOUR units. <grin>


From: John R <untitled36(at)yahoo.com>
To: Packrat <brn2dip(at)yahoo.com>; Alan Farrington <alley_cat_1990(at)hotmail.com>; Sean Cable <blueinva(at)cox.net>; Dustin Copass <dustin(at)scarecrowe.com>; Mike Tombu <mtombu(at)gmail.com>; Phillip <ilovethechiefs(at)gmail.com>; blueinva(at)gmail.com; White Wolf <cloudhurler77(at)yahoo.com>
Cc: dc259(at)diplomaticcorp.com
Sent: Wednesday, August 12, 2009 1:51:29 PM
Subject: Re: DC259 - Winter 1903

Says the guy with GREEN units. I mean, come on!

Smile


From: Packrat <brn2dip(at)yahoo.com>
To: John R <untitled36(at)yahoo.com>; Alan Farrington <alley_cat_1990(at)hotmail.com>; Sean Cable <blueinva(at)cox.net>; Dustin Copass <dustin(at)scarecrowe.com>; Mike Tombu <mtombu(at)gmail.com>; Phillip <ilovethechiefs(at)gmail.com>; blueinva(at)gmail.com; White Wolf <cloudhurler77(at)yahoo.com>
Cc: dc259(at)diplomaticcorp.com
Sent: Wednesday, August 12, 2009 12:50:07 PM
Subject: Re: DC259 - Winter 1903

Of COURSE they're sickly - that's why they're pale blue.


From: John R <untitled36(at)yahoo.com>
To: Packrat <brn2dip(at)yahoo.com>; Alan Farrington <alley_cat_1990(at)hotmail.com>; Sean Cable <blueinva(at)cox.net>; Dustin Copass <dustin(at)scarecrowe.com>; Mike Tombu <mtombu(at)gmail.com>; Phillip <ilovethechiefs(at)gmail.com>; blueinva(at)gmail..com; White Wolf <cloudhurler77(at)yahoo.com>
Cc: dc259(at)diplomaticcorp.com
Sent: Wednesday, August 12, 2009 8:27:33 AM
Subject: Re: DC259 - Winter 1903

exactly, boys. Those french supply centers only produce weak, sickly units. So why not just hand em back to me? I don't want you to be saddled with them. I'm just looking out for your best interests here, guys.

John



From: Packrat <brn2dip(at)yahoo..com>
To: Alan Farrington <alley_cat_1990(at)hotmail.com>; John <untitled36(at)yahoo.com>; Sean Cable <blueinva(at)cox.net>; Dustin Copass <dustin(at)scarecrowe.com>; Mike Tombu <mtombu(at)gmail.com>; Phillip <ilovethechiefs(at)gmail.com>; blueinva(at)gmail.com; White Wolf <cloudhurler77(at)yahoo.com>
Cc: dc259(at)diplomaticcorp.com
Sent: Tuesday, August 11, 2009 6:32:59 PM
Subject: Re: DC259 - Winter 1903

Three French units are only worth one anyway.


From: Alan Farrington <alley_cat_1990(at)hotmail.com>
To: John <untitled36(at)yahoo.com>; Sean Cable <blueinva(at)cox.net>; Dustin Copass <dustin(at)scarecrowe.com>; Packrat <brn2dip(at)yahoo.com>; Mike Tombu <mtombu(at)gmail.com>; Phillip <ilovethechiefs(at)gmail.com>; blueinva(at)gmail.com; White Wolf <cloudhurler77(at)yahoo.com>
Cc: dc259(at)diplomaticcorp.com
Sent: Tuesday, August 11, 2009 6:47:14 PM
Subject: RE: DC259 - Winter 1903

.hmmessage P { margin:0px;padding:0px;} body.hmmessage { font-size:10pt;font-family:Verdana;} If you pay for one french unit and get three then you are overpaying by at least 200%!

-Alan
Date: Tue, 11 Aug 2009 06:17:20 -0700
From: untitled36(at)yahoo.com
Subject: Re: DC259 - Winter 1903
To: blueinva(at)cox.net; dustin(at)scarecrowe.com; brn2dip(at)yahoo.com; mtombu(at)gmail.com; ilovethechiefs(at)gmail.com; alley_cat_1990(at)hotmail.com; blueinva(at)gmail.com; cloudhurler77(at)yahoo.com
CC: dc259(at)diplomaticcorp.com

.ExternalClass DIV {} We have a clearance sale on French units! 3 for the price of 1! This deal (and these units) won't last long, so get yours today! Some restrictions may apply. See store for details.*



*details: just promise to try to keep me alive until the end, and they are yours!

John



From: Sean Cable <blueinva(at)cox.net>
To: Sean Cable <blueinva(at)cox.net>; Dustin <dustin(at)scarecrowe.com>; Packrat <brn2dip(at)yahoo.com>; mike Tombu <mtombu(at)gmail.com>; Philip King <ilovethechiefs(at)gmail.com>; untitled36 <untitled36(at)yahoo.com>; Alan Farrington <alley_cat_1990(at)hotmail.com>; Sean/Blue Cable <blueinva(at)gmail.com>; Andy Jameson <cloudhurler77(at)yahoo.com>
Cc: dc259(at)diplomaticcorp.com
Sent: Sunday, August 9, 2009 8:46:15 AM
Subject: DC259 - Winter 1903

Austria builds Fleet in Trieste and waives
England builds army London
France disbands naf, par, and mao
Germany builds A Munich
Italy builds F Naples, F Rome


Deadlines:

Spring 1904 Thursday 13 August 11:59pm DST (Eastern)





Windows Liveâ„¢: Keep your life in sync. Check it out.

[Reply]

DC259 - Winter 1903 - packrat   (Aug 12, 2009, 12:59 pm)
BRIGHT green dude - a lot brighter than YOUR units. <grin>


From: John R <untitled36(at)yahoo.com>
To: Packrat <brn2dip(at)yahoo.com>; Alan Farrington <alley_cat_1990(at)hotmail.com>; Sean Cable <blueinva(at)cox.net>; Dustin Copass <dustin(at)scarecrowe.com>; Mike Tombu <mtombu(at)gmail.com>; Phillip <ilovethechiefs(at)gmail.com>; blueinva(at)gmail.com; White Wolf <cloudhurler77(at)yahoo.com>
Cc: dc259(at)diplomaticcorp.com
Sent: Wednesday, August 12, 2009 1:51:29 PM
Subject: Re: DC259 - Winter 1903

Says the guy with GREEN units. I mean, come on!

Smile


From: Packrat <brn2dip(at)yahoo.com>
To: John R <untitled36(at)yahoo.com>; Alan Farrington <alley_cat_1990(at)hotmail.com>; Sean Cable <blueinva(at)cox.net>; Dustin Copass <dustin(at)scarecrowe.com>; Mike Tombu <mtombu(at)gmail.com>; Phillip <ilovethechiefs(at)gmail.com>; blueinva(at)gmail.com; White Wolf <cloudhurler77(at)yahoo.com>
Cc: dc259(at)diplomaticcorp.com
Sent: Wednesday, August 12, 2009 12:50:07 PM
Subject: Re: DC259 - Winter 1903

Of COURSE they're sickly - that's why they're pale blue.


From: John R <untitled36(at)yahoo.com>
To: Packrat <brn2dip(at)yahoo.com>; Alan Farrington <alley_cat_1990(at)hotmail.com>; Sean Cable <blueinva(at)cox.net>; Dustin Copass <dustin(at)scarecrowe.com>; Mike Tombu <mtombu(at)gmail.com>; Phillip <ilovethechiefs(at)gmail.com>; blueinva(at)gmail..com; White Wolf <cloudhurler77(at)yahoo.com>
Cc: dc259(at)diplomaticcorp.com
Sent: Wednesday, August 12, 2009 8:27:33 AM
Subject: Re: DC259 - Winter 1903

exactly, boys. Those french supply centers only produce weak, sickly units. So why not just hand em back to me? I don't want you to be saddled with them. I'm just looking out for your best interests here, guys.

John



From: Packrat <brn2dip(at)yahoo..com>
To: Alan Farrington <alley_cat_1990(at)hotmail.com>; John <untitled36(at)yahoo.com>; Sean Cable <blueinva(at)cox.net>; Dustin Copass <dustin(at)scarecrowe.com>; Mike Tombu <mtombu(at)gmail.com>; Phillip <ilovethechiefs(at)gmail.com>; blueinva(at)gmail.com; White Wolf <cloudhurler77(at)yahoo.com>
Cc: dc259(at)diplomaticcorp.com
Sent: Tuesday, August 11, 2009 6:32:59 PM
Subject: Re: DC259 - Winter 1903

Three French units are only worth one anyway.


From: Alan Farrington <alley_cat_1990(at)hotmail.com>
To: John <untitled36(at)yahoo.com>; Sean Cable <blueinva(at)cox.net>; Dustin Copass <dustin(at)scarecrowe.com>; Packrat <brn2dip(at)yahoo.com>; Mike Tombu <mtombu(at)gmail.com>; Phillip <ilovethechiefs(at)gmail.com>; blueinva(at)gmail.com; White Wolf <cloudhurler77(at)yahoo.com>
Cc: dc259(at)diplomaticcorp.com
Sent: Tuesday, August 11, 2009 6:47:14 PM
Subject: RE: DC259 - Winter 1903

.hmmessage P { margin:0px;padding:0px;} body.hmmessage { font-size:10pt;font-family:Verdana;} If you pay for one french unit and get three then you are overpaying by at least 200%!

-Alan
Date: Tue, 11 Aug 2009 06:17:20 -0700
From: untitled36(at)yahoo.com
Subject: Re: DC259 - Winter 1903
To: blueinva(at)cox.net; dustin(at)scarecrowe.com; brn2dip(at)yahoo.com; mtombu(at)gmail.com; ilovethechiefs(at)gmail.com; alley_cat_1990(at)hotmail.com; blueinva(at)gmail.com; cloudhurler77(at)yahoo.com
CC: dc259(at)diplomaticcorp.com

.ExternalClass DIV {} We have a clearance sale on French units! 3 for the price of 1! This deal (and these units) won't last long, so get yours today! Some restrictions may apply. See store for details.*



*details: just promise to try to keep me alive until the end, and they are yours!

John



From: Sean Cable <blueinva(at)cox.net>
To: Sean Cable <blueinva(at)cox.net>; Dustin <dustin(at)scarecrowe.com>; Packrat <brn2dip(at)yahoo.com>; mike Tombu <mtombu(at)gmail.com>; Philip King <ilovethechiefs(at)gmail.com>; untitled36 <untitled36(at)yahoo.com>; Alan Farrington <alley_cat_1990(at)hotmail.com>; Sean/Blue Cable <blueinva(at)gmail.com>; Andy Jameson <cloudhurler77(at)yahoo.com>
Cc: dc259(at)diplomaticcorp.com
Sent: Sunday, August 9, 2009 8:46:15 AM
Subject: DC259 - Winter 1903

Austria builds Fleet in Trieste and waives
England builds army London
France disbands naf, par, and mao
Germany builds A Munich
Italy builds F Naples, F Rome


Deadlines:

Spring 1904 Thursday 13 August 11:59pm DST (Eastern)





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DC259 - Winter 1903 - packrat   (Aug 12, 2009, 12:53 pm)
Of COURSE they're sickly - that's why they're pale blue.


From: John R <untitled36(at)yahoo.com>
To: Packrat <brn2dip(at)yahoo.com>; Alan Farrington <alley_cat_1990(at)hotmail.com>; Sean Cable <blueinva(at)cox.net>; Dustin Copass <dustin(at)scarecrowe.com>; Mike Tombu <mtombu(at)gmail.com>; Phillip <ilovethechiefs(at)gmail.com>; blueinva(at)gmail.com; White Wolf <cloudhurler77(at)yahoo.com>
Cc: dc259(at)diplomaticcorp.com
Sent: Wednesday, August 12, 2009 8:27:33 AM
Subject: Re: DC259 - Winter 1903

exactly, boys. Those french supply centers only produce weak, sickly units. So why not just hand em back to me? I don't want you to be saddled with them. I'm just looking out for your best interests here, guys.

John



From: Packrat <brn2dip(at)yahoo..com>
To: Alan Farrington <alley_cat_1990(at)hotmail.com>; John <untitled36(at)yahoo.com>; Sean Cable <blueinva(at)cox.net>; Dustin Copass <dustin(at)scarecrowe.com>; Mike Tombu <mtombu(at)gmail.com>; Phillip <ilovethechiefs(at)gmail.com>; blueinva(at)gmail.com; White Wolf <cloudhurler77(at)yahoo.com>
Cc: dc259(at)diplomaticcorp.com
Sent: Tuesday, August 11, 2009 6:32:59 PM
Subject: Re: DC259 - Winter 1903

Three French units are only worth one anyway.


From: Alan Farrington <alley_cat_1990(at)hotmail.com>
To: John <untitled36(at)yahoo.com>; Sean Cable <blueinva(at)cox.net>; Dustin Copass <dustin(at)scarecrowe.com>; Packrat <brn2dip(at)yahoo.com>; Mike Tombu <mtombu(at)gmail.com>; Phillip <ilovethechiefs(at)gmail.com>; blueinva(at)gmail.com; White Wolf <cloudhurler77(at)yahoo.com>
Cc: dc259(at)diplomaticcorp.com
Sent: Tuesday, August 11, 2009 6:47:14 PM
Subject: RE: DC259 - Winter 1903

.hmmessage P { margin:0px;padding:0px;} body.hmmessage { font-size:10pt;font-family:Verdana;} If you pay for one french unit and get three then you are overpaying by at least 200%!

-Alan
Date: Tue, 11 Aug 2009 06:17:20 -0700
From: untitled36(at)yahoo.com
Subject: Re: DC259 - Winter 1903
To: blueinva(at)cox.net; dustin(at)scarecrowe.com; brn2dip(at)yahoo.com; mtombu(at)gmail.com; ilovethechiefs(at)gmail.com; alley_cat_1990(at)hotmail.com; blueinva(at)gmail.com; cloudhurler77(at)yahoo.com
CC: dc259(at)diplomaticcorp.com

.ExternalClass DIV {} We have a clearance sale on French units! 3 for the price of 1! This deal (and these units) won't last long, so get yours today! Some restrictions may apply. See store for details.*



*details: just promise to try to keep me alive until the end, and they are yours!

John



From: Sean Cable <blueinva(at)cox.net>
To: Sean Cable <blueinva(at)cox.net>; Dustin <dustin(at)scarecrowe.com>; Packrat <brn2dip(at)yahoo.com>; mike Tombu <mtombu(at)gmail.com>; Philip King <ilovethechiefs(at)gmail.com>; untitled36 <untitled36(at)yahoo.com>; Alan Farrington <alley_cat_1990(at)hotmail.com>; Sean/Blue Cable <blueinva(at)gmail.com>; Andy Jameson <cloudhurler77(at)yahoo.com>
Cc: dc259(at)diplomaticcorp.com
Sent: Sunday, August 9, 2009 8:46:15 AM
Subject: DC259 - Winter 1903

Austria builds Fleet in Trieste and waives
England builds army London
France disbands naf, par, and mao
Germany builds A Munich
Italy builds F Naples, F Rome


Deadlines:

Spring 1904 Thursday 13 August 11:59pm DST (Eastern)





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DC259 - Winter 1903 - untitled36 at yahoo.com   (Aug 12, 2009, 12:51 pm)
Says the guy with GREEN units. I mean, come on!

Smile


From: Packrat <brn2dip(at)yahoo.com>
To: John R <untitled36(at)yahoo.com>; Alan Farrington <alley_cat_1990(at)hotmail.com>; Sean Cable <blueinva(at)cox.net>; Dustin Copass <dustin(at)scarecrowe.com>; Mike Tombu <mtombu(at)gmail.com>; Phillip <ilovethechiefs(at)gmail.com>; blueinva(at)gmail.com; White Wolf <cloudhurler77(at)yahoo.com>
Cc: dc259(at)diplomaticcorp.com
Sent: Wednesday, August 12, 2009 12:50:07 PM
Subject: Re: DC259 - Winter 1903

Of COURSE they're sickly - that's why they're pale blue.


From: John R <untitled36(at)yahoo.com>
To: Packrat <brn2dip(at)yahoo.com>; Alan Farrington <alley_cat_1990(at)hotmail.com>; Sean Cable <blueinva(at)cox.net>; Dustin Copass <dustin(at)scarecrowe.com>; Mike Tombu <mtombu(at)gmail.com>; Phillip <ilovethechiefs(at)gmail.com>; blueinva(at)gmail..com; White Wolf <cloudhurler77(at)yahoo.com>
Cc: dc259(at)diplomaticcorp.com
Sent: Wednesday, August 12, 2009 8:27:33 AM
Subject: Re: DC259 - Winter 1903

exactly, boys. Those french supply centers only produce weak, sickly units. So why not just hand em back to me? I don't want you to be saddled with them. I'm just looking out for your best interests here, guys.

John



From: Packrat <brn2dip(at)yahoo..com>
To: Alan Farrington <alley_cat_1990(at)hotmail.com>; John <untitled36(at)yahoo.com>; Sean Cable <blueinva(at)cox.net>; Dustin Copass <dustin(at)scarecrowe.com>; Mike Tombu <mtombu(at)gmail.com>; Phillip <ilovethechiefs(at)gmail.com>; blueinva(at)gmail.com; White Wolf <cloudhurler77(at)yahoo.com>
Cc: dc259(at)diplomaticcorp.com
Sent: Tuesday, August 11, 2009 6:32:59 PM
Subject: Re: DC259 - Winter 1903

Three French units are only worth one anyway.


From: Alan Farrington <alley_cat_1990(at)hotmail.com>
To: John <untitled36(at)yahoo.com>; Sean Cable <blueinva(at)cox.net>; Dustin Copass <dustin(at)scarecrowe.com>; Packrat <brn2dip(at)yahoo.com>; Mike Tombu <mtombu(at)gmail.com>; Phillip <ilovethechiefs(at)gmail.com>; blueinva(at)gmail.com; White Wolf <cloudhurler77(at)yahoo.com>
Cc: dc259(at)diplomaticcorp.com
Sent: Tuesday, August 11, 2009 6:47:14 PM
Subject: RE: DC259 - Winter 1903

.hmmessage P { margin:0px;padding:0px;} body.hmmessage { font-size:10pt;font-family:Verdana;} If you pay for one french unit and get three then you are overpaying by at least 200%!

-Alan
Date: Tue, 11 Aug 2009 06:17:20 -0700
From: untitled36(at)yahoo.com
Subject: Re: DC259 - Winter 1903
To: blueinva(at)cox.net; dustin(at)scarecrowe.com; brn2dip(at)yahoo.com; mtombu(at)gmail.com; ilovethechiefs(at)gmail.com; alley_cat_1990(at)hotmail.com; blueinva(at)gmail.com; cloudhurler77(at)yahoo.com
CC: dc259(at)diplomaticcorp.com

.ExternalClass DIV {} We have a clearance sale on French units! 3 for the price of 1! This deal (and these units) won't last long, so get yours today! Some restrictions may apply. See store for details.*



*details: just promise to try to keep me alive until the end, and they are yours!

John



From: Sean Cable <blueinva(at)cox.net>
To: Sean Cable <blueinva(at)cox.net>; Dustin <dustin(at)scarecrowe.com>; Packrat <brn2dip(at)yahoo.com>; mike Tombu <mtombu(at)gmail.com>; Philip King <ilovethechiefs(at)gmail.com>; untitled36 <untitled36(at)yahoo.com>; Alan Farrington <alley_cat_1990(at)hotmail.com>; Sean/Blue Cable <blueinva(at)gmail.com>; Andy Jameson <cloudhurler77(at)yahoo.com>
Cc: dc259(at)diplomaticcorp.com
Sent: Sunday, August 9, 2009 8:46:15 AM
Subject: DC259 - Winter 1903

Austria builds Fleet in Trieste and waives
England builds army London
France disbands naf, par, and mao
Germany builds A Munich
Italy builds F Naples, F Rome


Deadlines:

Spring 1904 Thursday 13 August 11:59pm DST (Eastern)





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[Reply]

DC243 - German EOG - Viper   (Aug 12, 2009, 12:27 pm)
Good game, everyone. My game report will only be a partial, as I only joined part-way through.

I came into the game needing to submit an immediate retreat and based on that fact alone I came to the conclusion that France was an enemy. With the ability to retreat into Gascony, I had to take advantage of that immediately. So then I started looking for allies in a fight against France and Italy/Russia were willing to help while it didn't seem like England was on board. So, when Turkey came calling saying he wouldn't bother me if I let him walk over Italy, I couldn't do it because I needed Italy to pester France as much as possible.

And so the game went. By the end I was certainly looking at how to get the solo, but as I said a number of times, I've never had a solo and I didn't want my first one to come as a replacement player. So I committed to a draw with the players who got me to where I was and stuck with it.

My compliments to Turkey... you exploited every hole we left you and survived well. Working with you in a future game would be a good experience, I'm sure.

Nick and Kyle... perhaps someday we'll play in a game when you don't rely on me so much... I knew the alliance was secure simply because you didn't have much of a choice... one of the reasons I liked it so much. Thanks for being willing to take part in my crazy convoy scheme. Someday...

England, France and Austria... never really played much with you because you were either gone, almost gone or my default enemy... hopefully no hard feelings.

I had fun and I'm glad the temptation of going for the solo is gone.

mvp

[Reply]

1648 090623: Spring 1652 Moves - charlesf   (Aug 12, 2009, 12:09 pm)
Hallo zusammen!

another minor power bites the dust as the Poles continue to carve out a new realm of theirs in South-Eastern Europe, in this endeavour now not only supported by the Emperor but now also by the Tsar of all Russias, who shifted some of his regiments to Russia's South-Eastern border provinces. These developments probably won't be well-received at the Sublime Porte.

The brunt of the Emperor's forces remain however engaged further to the West and now have captured the strategically important Dauphiné, whilst France managed to evict the Spaniards from Gascony. Talking of the Spaniards, we've probably just witnessed the longest circular traffic jam in world history. I'm not sure whether I've ever seen anything quite like it.

Continuing our tour of the map further to the North, the Commonwealth seems to be following the rump-parliament's policy of getting the politically suspect armed forces off English soil and have 'em fight farther from home. Over in Scandinavia, Frederick III reconquered Holstein without encountering any opposition and Queen Christine finally has been able to add the Duchy of Courland to Sweden's possessions.

As for the Johannes Keppler Award, I've made note of all the submitted predictions. I dare say I shall ask for at least another set of predictions further down the road. Perhaps if and when a first power has been eliminated.

French and Spanish retreats are due tomorrow. The fall deadline falls squarely into Charles-on-holiday territory as I shall be arriving by ferry in Newcastle on 19 August. I shall be back home round 10 September. While away, I can't really say when I shall be able to adjucate and there will be some inevitable delays and corresponding departures from our regular Wednesday/Thursday scheme. Not ideal, but lacking a temporary GM replacement, I've decided not to make the perfect the enemy of the good.

However, I shall need one of you to step up and supply all players and observers the updates gif-maps and dpy-save files. So, this is my second call for the "Chief Map-making Officer" vacancy. Anyone...?

Liebe Grüsse,

Charles

----------
PLAYERS:
AUSTRIA: Jorge Saralegui <jmsaralegui(at)gmail.com>
DENMARK-NORWAY: Michael Thompson <psychosis(at)sky.com>
ENGLAND: Chris McInerney <c.p.mcinerney(at)gmail.com>
FRANCE: Nathan Albright <nathanbalbright(at)yahoo.com>
POLAND-LITHUANIA: Roger Leroux <yrl1967(at)gmail.com>
RUSSIA: Mikael Johansson <m_don_j(at)hotmail.com>
SPAIN: Matt Kremer <matthew.kremer(at)yale.edu>
SWEDEN: Wayne Bailey <WBailey(at)nyiso.com>
TURKEY: Dirk Knemeyer <dirk(at)knemeyer.com>


PROCLAMATIONS:
o IMPERIALS DEFEAT FRENCH AT GRENOBLE
o AUSTRIAN AND OTTOMAN GALLEYS REMAIN LOCKED IN A STRUGGLE FOR THE ADRIATIC
o FREDERICK III RETAKES KEY FORTRESS OF GLÜCKSBURG
o COMMONWEALTH TROOPS PREPARE FOR ACTION ABROAD o MAZARIN RIDS GASCONY OF SPANISH MERCENARIES
o MOLDAVIA BECOMES A HEREDITARY FIEF OF POLISH KING
o TSAR STRENGTHENS SOUTH-EASTERN BORDER GARRISONS o SPANIARDS RUN INTO ANOTHER TO MUCH CONFUSION
o QUEEN CHRISTINE ANNEXES COURLAND
o SULTAN'S AID TO RUSSIA SPURNED
PRESS: None. Sad




ORDERS:






Austria:
A Bavaria - Swabia
A Lombardy Supports A Tyrolia - Venice
A Lorraine - Dauphiné
A Saxony - Hesse
A Swabia - Lorraine
A Switzerland Supports A Lorraine - Dauphiné
F Trieste - Adriatic Sea (*Bounce*)
A Tyrolia - Venice
A Vienna Supports A Slovakia - Hungary

Denmark-Norway:
F Bay of Luebeck - Holstein(ec)
F Helgoland Bight Supports A Lower Saxony
A Lower Saxony Supports F Bay of Luebeck - Holstein(ec)
F Mecklenburg Hold

England:
A Bristol - Scotland
F Flanders Supports F London - English Channel
F London - English Channel
F Scotland - North Atlantic Ocean

France:
A Dauphiné Supports A Marseilles (*Dislodged*)
A Marseilles Supports A Paris - Gascony
A Paris - Gascony
A Tuscany Supports A Papal States

Poland-Lithuania:
A Brandenburg Hold
A Podolia - Moldavia
A Prussia Hold
A Slovakia - Hungary
A Transylvania Supports A Podolia - Moldavia

Russia:
A Crimea Supports A Podolia - Moldavia
A Moscow - Turkestan
F Novgorod(sc) Hold
A Polotsk Supports A Riga - Courland
A Smolensk - Vilna
A Vilna - Samogitia
A Warsaw Supports A Vilna - Samogitia
A White Ruthenia - Voronezh

Spain:
A Aragon - Gascony (*Fails*)
F Brest - Mid-Atlantic Ocean (*Fails*)
A Gascony - Brest (*Dislodged*)
F Mid-Atlantic Ocean - Western Mediterranean (*Fails*)
F Morocco - Algiers
F Western Mediterranean - Aragon (*Fails*)

Sweden:
F Baltic Sea - Brandenburg (*Fails*)
A Copenhagen Hold
F Gulf of Bothnia Supports A Riga - Courland
A Lapland - Christiania
A Riga - Courland
F Scania Supports A Copenhagen

Turkey:
A Belgrade - Hungary (*Fails*)
A Candia - Constantinople
F Eastern Mediterranean - Aegean Sea
A Egypt Supports A Tunis
F Ionian Sea - Adriatic Sea (*Bounce*)
A Tunis Hold
F Tyrrhenian Sea - Naples
A Wallachia Supports A Crimea - Moldavia (*Void*)

Ireland:
A Ireland Hold

Moldavia:
A Moldavia Hold (*Disbanded*)

PapalStates:
A Papal States Supports A Tuscany

Rhineland-Westphalia:
A Rhineland-Westphalia Supports A Swabia - Lorraine

RETREATS:

French A Dauphiné can retreat to Savoy, Paris or OTB.
Spanish A Gascony can retreat to Leon or OTB

SUPPLY CENTER OWNERSHIP:

Austria(9): Bavaria, Lorraine, Prague, Saxony, Swabia, Switzerland, Trieste, Venice, Vienna.
Denmark-Norway(4): Lower Saxony, Mecklenburg, Stettin, United Provinces.
England(4): Bristol, Flanders, London, Scotland.
France(4): Marseilles, Paris, Savoy, Tuscany.
Poland-Lithuania(5): Brandenburg, Courland, Cracow, Prussia, Transylvania.
Russia(Cool: Crimea, Moscow, Novgorod, Turkestan, Ukraine, Vilna, Voronezh, Warsaw.
Spain(6): Algiers, Brest, Madrid, Morocco, Portugal, Sevilla.
Sweden(6): Abo, Christiania, Copenhagen, Holstein, Riga, Stockholm.
Turkey(Cool: Belgrade, Candia, Constantinople, Damascus, Naples, Persia, Tunis, Wallachia.
Minor Powers(4): Ireland, Moldavia, Papal States, Rhineland-Westphalia.

DEADLINE SCHEDULE: (all orders are due NLT 6PM CET (GMT+1)...not local time)
o Summer 1652 Retreats: 13 August
o Fall 1652 Moves: 19 August

ORDERS MAP:


RESULTS MAP:

[Reply]

1648 090623: Spring 1652 Moves (dc264) leroy43 Aug 19, 12:01 pm
Hello fellow 1648 diplomats...

I shall be away on vacation starting tomorrow and not back until August the 28th. If Charles can find a substitute or proxy for me, that is great, but otherwise I'll be at all of your collective mercies (or lack thereof).

Cheers,

Roger (Polish King)
243 vote - agwopa   (Aug 12, 2009, 11:56 am)
The vote is 4-0 so it passes as a Russian Italian, German Victory!!! Turkish survival!
I will write more, no later than tomorrow for now I want to say thanks to all.

[Reply]

DC259 - Spring 1904 Reminder - blueinva   (Aug 12, 2009, 10:29 am)
Spring 1904 Thursday 13 August 11:59pm DST (Eastern)

Tomorrow!!

[Reply]

DC259 - Winter 1903 - untitled36 at yahoo.com   (Aug 12, 2009, 10:14 am)
exactly, boys. Those french supply centers only produce weak, sickly units. So why not just hand em back to me? I don't want you to be saddled with them. I'm just looking out for your best interests here, guys.

John



From: Packrat <brn2dip(at)yahoo.com>
To: Alan Farrington <alley_cat_1990(at)hotmail.com>; John <untitled36(at)yahoo.com>; Sean Cable <blueinva(at)cox.net>; Dustin Copass <dustin(at)scarecrowe.com>; Mike Tombu <mtombu(at)gmail.com>; Phillip <ilovethechiefs(at)gmail.com>; blueinva(at)gmail.com; White Wolf <cloudhurler77(at)yahoo.com>
Cc: dc259(at)diplomaticcorp.com
Sent: Tuesday, August 11, 2009 6:32:59 PM
Subject: Re: DC259 - Winter 1903

Three French units are only worth one anyway.


From: Alan Farrington <alley_cat_1990(at)hotmail.com>
To: John <untitled36(at)yahoo.com>; Sean Cable <blueinva(at)cox.net>; Dustin Copass <dustin(at)scarecrowe.com>; Packrat <brn2dip(at)yahoo.com>; Mike Tombu <mtombu(at)gmail.com>; Phillip <ilovethechiefs(at)gmail.com>; blueinva(at)gmail.com; White Wolf <cloudhurler77(at)yahoo.com>
Cc: dc259(at)diplomaticcorp.com
Sent: Tuesday, August 11, 2009 6:47:14 PM
Subject: RE: DC259 - Winter 1903

.hmmessage P { margin:0px;padding:0px;} body.hmmessage { font-size:10pt;font-family:Verdana;} If you pay for one french unit and get three then you are overpaying by at least 200%!

-Alan
Date: Tue, 11 Aug 2009 06:17:20 -0700
From: untitled36(at)yahoo.com
Subject: Re: DC259 - Winter 1903
To: blueinva(at)cox.net; dustin(at)scarecrowe.com; brn2dip(at)yahoo.com; mtombu(at)gmail.com; ilovethechiefs(at)gmail.com; alley_cat_1990(at)hotmail.com; blueinva(at)gmail.com; cloudhurler77(at)yahoo.com
CC: dc259(at)diplomaticcorp.com

.ExternalClass DIV {} We have a clearance sale on French units! 3 for the price of 1! This deal (and these units) won't last long, so get yours today! Some restrictions may apply. See store for details.*



*details: just promise to try to keep me alive until the end, and they are yours!

John



From: Sean Cable <blueinva(at)cox.net>
To: Sean Cable <blueinva(at)cox.net>; Dustin <dustin(at)scarecrowe.com>; Packrat <brn2dip(at)yahoo.com>; mike Tombu <mtombu(at)gmail.com>; Philip King <ilovethechiefs(at)gmail.com>; untitled36 <untitled36(at)yahoo.com>; Alan Farrington <alley_cat_1990(at)hotmail.com>; Sean/Blue Cable <blueinva(at)gmail.com>; Andy Jameson <cloudhurler77(at)yahoo.com>
Cc: dc259(at)diplomaticcorp.com
Sent: Sunday, August 9, 2009 8:46:15 AM
Subject: DC259 - Winter 1903

Austria builds Fleet in Trieste and waives
England builds army London
France disbands naf, par, and mao
Germany builds A Munich
Italy builds F Naples, F Rome


Deadlines:

Spring 1904 Thursday 13 August 11:59pm DST (Eastern)





Windows Liveâ„¢: Keep your life in sync. Check it out.

[Reply]

DC261 - Winter 1903 Results - aramis604   (Aug 12, 2009, 12:35 am)
Here are the Winter results.

Austria:
Build A Vienna

France:
Build A Brest

Germany:
Remove A Berlin

Italy:
Build F Naples

******************
Spring 1904 is due on Tuesday, August 18th by 9pm Pacific Time.

[Reply]

DC 218 SHIFT LEFT: Fall 1912 results. Retreats a... - MattTheLesser   (Aug 11, 2009, 10:43 pm)
Tried to push the draw through until the very end but someone kept
saying no...

I'll send a full EOG when it's all over as I have some things I want to
say about this one.

Matt

Packrat wrote:

I need retreats and adjustments, BOTH, by Wednesday at 2100. If you
need to see the
retreat to decide what to build, then please feel free to submit
contingent builds.


The AG proposal fails and yet another AG draw is proposed for your
consideration.

Technically I need three retreats and they are:

Turkish A Constantinople can retreat to Ankara or Smyrna or OTB
French F London can retreat to Wales or OTB
Russian F Norway can retreat to Skagerrak or Norwegian Sea or
Barents Sea or OTB

Since Russia has no more dots I am simply going to retreat it off the
board and thank Matt for staying
with his position right to the very end.

That all being said, assuming the units (except Russia) retreat the
following adjustments are needed.

Austria: Supp 10 Unit 9 Build 1
England: Supp 0 Unit 0 Build 0
France: Supp 4 Unit 5 Remove 1, remove 0 if retreat is OTB
Germany: Supp 14 Unit 11 Build 2
Italy: Supp 4 Unit 4 Build 0
Russia: Supp 0 Unit 0 Build 0
Turkey: Supp 2 Unit 3 Remove 1, remove 0 if retreat is OTB



Austria:
F Adriatic Sea - Albania
F Aegean Sea Supports A Bulgaria - Constantinople
A Bulgaria - Constantinople
A Rumania Supports A Serbia - Bulgaria (*Cut*)
A Serbia - Bulgaria
A Sevastopol Supports A Rumania (*Cut*)
A Trieste Supports A Venice
A Tyrolia - Piedmont
A Venice Supports A Tyrolia - Piedmont

France:
F Brest - English Channel
F London - North Sea (*Dislodged*)
A Marseilles Supports A Picardy - Burgundy
A Paris Supports A Picardy - Burgundy
A Picardy - Burgundy (*Bounce*)

Germany:
A Belgium Supports A Ruhr - Burgundy
A Burgundy - Gascony
F Gulf of Bothnia - Sweden
F Holland - North Sea
A Moscow Supports A Sevastopol
A Munich Supports A Ruhr - Burgundy
F North Sea - London
A Ruhr - Burgundy (*Bounce*)
A St Petersburg Supports A Sweden - Norway
A Sweden - Norway
A Yorkshire Supports F North Sea - London

Italy:
F Apulia Supports F Tunis - Ionian Sea
F Naples Supports F Tunis - Ionian Sea
A Rome Supports F Apulia
F Tunis - Ionian Sea

Russia:
F Norway Hold (*Dislodged*)

Turkey:
A Armenia - Sevastopol (*Fails*)
F Black Sea - Rumania (*Fails*)
A Constantinople - Bulgaria (*Dislodged*)


------------------------------------------------------------------------

[Reply]

Unknown - FuzzyLogic   (Aug 11, 2009, 8:30 pm)
Joe, thank you for pointing this out. Yes, typically a player gets put on restricted status after abandoning a couple games, which requires that said player complete a game before the restriction can be lifted. What does restricted status do? It prevents someone from auto-joining more than one game at a time. The system will allow one active game, but not more than that. Not to say that person cant play more, but they would just have to vocalize such to a potential GM rather than use the auto-join feature silently.

How did it fall apart in this scenario? In this case the player was never put on restricted status. The WB games process NMR's without intervention, so nothing raised a red flag here. This is still a manual / human review process, whereby someone has to bring it to our attention for something to be done. Usually I'll notice if someone abandons since GMs come to open games up for a replacement, but a single abandon usually does not warrant a restricted status.

In any case, this account has been duly noted. Please all, dont hesitate to bring up any questionable play. We can be reached anonymously via the feedback form online, or just email me directly, or feedback-at-diplomaticcorp-dot-com with any concerns. It is always our goal to raise the level of play here. This means finding the right balance between tolerance and improvement, and NMRs and abandons. It is a gray line, that is defined from everyone's perspective a different way.

If anyone has suggestions on preventing situations like this (moreso than pointing out any one individual, improving standards in general), please bring them up like Joe has done here. The best thing we have going for us is that we are a community, and as such, an active roll by everyone is the best course.

Thank you,
-mike

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DC 266 Spring 1903 Results - MattTheLesser   (Aug 11, 2009, 8:21 pm)
The Balkans really heat up this turn as Austria manages to reclaim
Budapest, disbanding Russia's army in the process, but loses Serbia to
Turkey, who also clashes with Russia in Rumania. In the west France
continues to struggle as Germany now finds himself in Brest and Gascony
and Italy forcibly takes the Gulf of Lyon. Things may be looking up for
England, however, as he seems positioned to reclaim Liverpool in the fall.

We have one retreat: French A Gulf of Lyon may retreat to Piedmont,
Tuscany, or OTB. The deadline for that will be tomorrow, Wednesday, at
9 eastern, but I will publish it as soon as I receive it. Fall 1903
will follow this coming Monday, August 17, at 9 pm eastern.

Matt

Adjudication:

Austria:
A Serbia - Budapest
A Trieste Supports A Serbia - Budapest
A Vienna Supports A Serbia - Budapest

England:
A Edinburgh Supports A Liverpool - Yorkshire (*Void*)
A London - Yorkshire
F Norway Supports F St Petersburg(nc)
F St Petersburg(nc) Supports F Norway

France:
F Brest - Mid-Atlantic Ocean
F Gulf of Lyon - Spain(sc) (*Dislodged*)
A Liverpool, no move received
A Spain - Portugal

Germany:
A Burgundy - Gascony
F Gulf of Bothnia - Sweden
F Kiel - Holland
A Munich - Tyrolia
A Paris - Brest
A Picardy Supports A Paris - Brest
A Silesia - Bohemia
F Sweden - Skagerrak

Italy:
A Marseilles - Spain (*Bounce*)
F Naples - Tyrrhenian Sea
F Tyrrhenian Sea - Gulf of Lyon
A Venice Hold
F Western Mediterranean Supports F Tyrrhenian Sea - Gulf of Lyon

Russia:
A Budapest Hold (*Disbanded*)
A Galicia Supports A Budapest
A Moscow Supports A Warsaw - Livonia
F Sevastopol - Rumania (*Bounce*)
A Warsaw - Livonia

Turkey:
F Aegean Sea Hold
F Black Sea - Rumania (*Bounce*)
A Bulgaria - Serbia
A Greece Supports A Bulgaria - Serbia
F Smyrna - Eastern Mediterranean

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DC259 - Winter 1903 - packrat   (Aug 11, 2009, 6:33 pm)
Three French units are only worth one anyway.


From: Alan Farrington <alley_cat_1990(at)hotmail.com>
To: John <untitled36(at)yahoo.com>; Sean Cable <blueinva(at)cox.net>; Dustin Copass <dustin(at)scarecrowe.com>; Packrat <brn2dip(at)yahoo.com>; Mike Tombu <mtombu(at)gmail.com>; Phillip <ilovethechiefs(at)gmail.com>; blueinva(at)gmail.com; White Wolf <cloudhurler77(at)yahoo.com>
Cc: dc259(at)diplomaticcorp.com
Sent: Tuesday, August 11, 2009 6:47:14 PM
Subject: RE: DC259 - Winter 1903

.hmmessage P { margin:0px;padding:0px;} body.hmmessage { font-size:10pt;font-family:Verdana;} If you pay for one french unit and get three then you are overpaying by at least 200%!

-Alan
Date: Tue, 11 Aug 2009 06:17:20 -0700
From: untitled36(at)yahoo.com
Subject: Re: DC259 - Winter 1903
To: blueinva(at)cox.net; dustin(at)scarecrowe.com; brn2dip(at)yahoo.com; mtombu(at)gmail.com; ilovethechiefs(at)gmail.com; alley_cat_1990(at)hotmail.com; blueinva(at)gmail.com; cloudhurler77(at)yahoo.com
CC: dc259(at)diplomaticcorp.com

.ExternalClass DIV {} We have a clearance sale on French units! 3 for the price of 1! This deal (and these units) won't last long, so get yours today! Some restrictions may apply. See store for details.*



*details: just promise to try to keep me alive until the end, and they are yours!

John



From: Sean Cable <blueinva(at)cox.net>
To: Sean Cable <blueinva(at)cox.net>; Dustin <dustin(at)scarecrowe.com>; Packrat <brn2dip(at)yahoo.com>; mike Tombu <mtombu(at)gmail.com>; Philip King <ilovethechiefs(at)gmail.com>; untitled36 <untitled36(at)yahoo.com>; Alan Farrington <alley_cat_1990(at)hotmail.com>; Sean/Blue Cable <blueinva(at)gmail.com>; Andy Jameson <cloudhurler77(at)yahoo.com>
Cc: dc259(at)diplomaticcorp.com
Sent: Sunday, August 9, 2009 8:46:15 AM
Subject: DC259 - Winter 1903

Austria builds Fleet in Trieste and waives
England builds army London
France disbands naf, par, and mao
Germany builds A Munich
Italy builds F Naples, F Rome


Deadlines:

Spring 1904 Thursday 13 August 11:59pm DST (Eastern)





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DC-244 Deadline Reminder - TheWhiteWolf   (Aug 11, 2009, 6:04 pm)
Hey everyone,
The Spring 1459 deadline is in less than 19 hours, and I'm still missing orders from most of you. Don't make me NMR over half the board! Surprised) But seriously, get 'em in, or risk it.

Wolf

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http://www.fanfiction.net/u/1369632/

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Dc 225: Summer 1911 Adjudication - AlanRFarrington   (Aug 11, 2009, 5:52 pm)
Well isn't this moving right along. There is a proposal up for a four way Draw (including all survivors) As you all know I have one vote in I'll wait for the rest.

Orders:
England:
F Mid-Atlantic Ocean - North Atlantic Ocean

Deadline
:
I'm going to set the Fall 1911 deadline for Friday, August 14th at the same time as usual (24:00 GMT, 7:00pm EST). Votes are due at the same time, failure to vote will result in a "no" vote.

Thanks,
Alan Farrington
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DC259 - Winter 1903 - AlanRFarrington   (Aug 11, 2009, 5:47 pm)
If you pay for one french unit and get three then you are overpaying by at least 200%!

-Alan
Date: Tue, 11 Aug 2009 06:17:20 -0700
From: untitled36(at)yahoo.com
Subject: Re: DC259 - Winter 1903
To: blueinva(at)cox.net; dustin(at)scarecrowe.com; brn2dip(at)yahoo.com; mtombu(at)gmail.com; ilovethechiefs(at)gmail.com; alley_cat_1990(at)hotmail.com; blueinva(at)gmail.com; cloudhurler77(at)yahoo.com
CC: dc259(at)diplomaticcorp.com

.ExternalClass DIV {;} We have a clearance sale on French units! 3 for the price of 1! This deal (and these units) won't last long, so get yours today! Some restrictions may apply. See store for details.*



*details: just promise to try to keep me alive until the end, and they are yours!

John



From: Sean Cable <blueinva(at)cox.net>
To: Sean Cable <blueinva(at)cox.net>; Dustin <dustin(at)scarecrowe.com>; Packrat <brn2dip(at)yahoo.com>; mike Tombu <mtombu(at)gmail.com>; Philip King <ilovethechiefs(at)gmail.com>; untitled36 <untitled36(at)yahoo.com>; Alan Farrington <alley_cat_1990(at)hotmail.com>; Sean/Blue Cable <blueinva(at)gmail.com>; Andy Jameson <cloudhurler77(at)yahoo.com>
Cc: dc259(at)diplomaticcorp.com
Sent: Sunday, August 9, 2009 8:46:15 AM
Subject: DC259 - Winter 1903

Austria builds Fleet in Trieste and waives
England builds army London
France disbands naf, par, and mao
Germany builds A Munich
Italy builds F Naples, F Rome


Deadlines:

Spring 1904 Thursday 13 August 11:59pm DST (Eastern)




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NMR'ing in one game, while playing in others! - jhack16   (Aug 11, 2009, 5:05 pm)
I and 4 others are playing in DC 247WB.

The game started in March,with two turns a week.

One player, for reasons best known to himself, has after nearly 35 seasons, lately submitted 4 NMR's in a row.

This has as you can imagine altered the course of the game.

C'est la vie you might say, and I would be inclined to agree, apart from one thing.

The member, while too busy to submit moves in a game that has gone gone for over five months, and which is now in Fall 1920, has commenced playing in a new game, DC 268, and has submitted moves to this game while at the same time NMR'ing without any excuse or notification to anyone in the original game.

This type of behaviour is reprehensibile and I would ask the moderators to take action to stop this kind of action being repeated.

In the meantime, Benjy Aarons, aka Finchley Womble, take a bow.

Joe Hackett aka jhack16 Mad

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Unknown (Community) FuzzyLogic Aug 11, 08:30 pm
Joe, thank you for pointing this out. Yes, typically a player gets put on restricted status after abandoning a couple games, which requires that said player complete a game before the restriction can be lifted. What does restricted status do? It prevents someone from auto-joining more than one game at a time. The system will allow one active game, but not more than that. Not to say that person cant play more, but they would just have to vocalize such to a potential GM rather than use the auto-join feature silently.

How did it fall apart in this scenario? In this case the player was never put on restricted status. The WB games process NMR's without intervention, so nothing raised a red flag here. This is still a manual / human review process, whereby someone has to bring it to our attention for something to be done. Usually I'll notice if someone abandons since GMs come to open games up for a replacement, but a single abandon usually does not warrant a restricted status.

In any case, this account has been duly noted. Please all, dont hesitate to bring up any questionable play. We can be reached anonymously via the feedback form online, or just email me directly, or feedback-at-diplomaticcorp-dot-com with any concerns. It is always our goal to raise the level of play here. This means finding the right balance between tolerance and improvement, and NMRs and abandons. It is a gray line, that is defined from everyone's perspective a different way.

If anyone has suggestions on preventing situations like this (moreso than pointing out any one individual, improving standards in general), please bring them up like Joe has done here. The best thing we have going for us is that we are a community, and as such, an active roll by everyone is the best course.

Thank you,
-mike
Unknown (Community) alwayshunted Aug 14, 01:26 pm
I must agree completely with Joe in this case. The player in question had far reaching effects on this game and the 'still to be determined' outcome. It shows a complete lack of respect for the players that are being affected, and personally I think there should be SOME sort of repercussions for this type of poor play. I know we all have times in our lives where nmrs happen, but starting a new game while continually nmring in another is inexcusable.

My $0.02.

Warren
DC 260 S1904 Adjudication - AceRimmer   (Aug 11, 2009, 4:15 pm)
Sucks to be Japan. Or so it would appear. India parries and Indonesia thrusts. And the Japanese fleet in South China Sea has no choice but to seek harbor in the Philippines. Meanwhile, the Persian-Indian frontier becomes all jumbled jivy with Indian units (at least temporarily) in two Persian centers. Only Siberia's true intentions remain shrouded in snow.

Personally, I think it's too early to declare a the new world order, but nobody wasted time creating new hostility in the post-Communist Asian world.

The only retreat was processed without alternatives, as described above (Japanese fleets and the Phillies).

So, we'll have F1904 next Tuesday! 15:00 GMT.

India:
F Arabian Sea - Iran(sc)
F Bombay Supports A Delhi - Pakistan
A Chongqing Supports A Tibet
A Delhi - Pakistan
A Laos - Hong Kong
A Mongolia - Tien Shan (*Bounce*)
F Sri Lanka Hold
A Tibet Hold

Indonesia:
F Borneo Supports F Thai Sea - South China Sea
F Eastern Indian Ocean - Jawan Sea
F Jawan Sea - Celebes Sea
F Madagascar Hold
F Sumatra - Thai Sea
F Thai Sea - South China Sea
A Vietnam Supports A Laos - Hong Kong

Japan:
A Beijing Supports A Shanghai - Tibet
F East China Sea Hold
F Hokkaido - Sea of Okhotsk (*Fails*)
A Manchuria - Mongolia (*Fails*)
F South China Sea - Shanghai (*Dislodged*)
A Shanghai - Tibet (*Fails*)
F Yellow Sea - Manchuria (*Fails*)

Persia:
F Arabia(wc) - Yemen
A Balkans - Warsaw
F Eastern Mediterranean - Egypt
A Iran - Afghanistan
A Iraq Hold
F Moscow - Caspian Sea
F Oman Supports F Pakistan - Arabian Sea
F Pakistan - Arabian Sea
A Sevastopol - Moscow
A Uzbekistan - Tien Shan (*Bounce*)

Siberia:
F Arctic Sea - Kamchatka
A Irkutsk Supports A Novosibirsk
A Novosibirsk Supports A Urals - Kazakhstan
F Sea of Okhotsk Hold
A St. Petersburg Supports A West Siberia - Urals
A Urals - Kazakhstan
A West Siberia - Urals

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Vacation . . . . - Colonel_Mustard   (Aug 11, 2009, 11:02 am)
Hey 270 folks --

I'm headed for a week's vacation on Friday, so if you need to contact me about moves please do it sooner rather than later. Thanks.

-- Dan (Austria)


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DC224 - Slaughter of Summer-Time - Seeking Replace... - pieandmash   (Aug 11, 2009, 9:21 am)
I support this, only may be a shortage of elves to fill the ranks



CheersMax


On 11 Aug 2009, at 15:07, Garry Bledsoe <kielmarch(at)hotmail.com ([email]kielmarch(at)hotmail.com[/email])> wrote:



I think that the Archer units should be ceded to the Elves. After all, we ARE both good with bows. Besides, then you wouldn't have to wait. And I am sure that we would deal fairly with all races, after a fashion.

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Subject: DC224 - Slaughter of Summer-Time - Seeking Replacement Archers
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To: dc224(at)diplomaticcorp.com ([email]dc224(at)diplomaticcorp.com[/email])
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Heya folks,

Well, I sincerely apologize for the long delay during the latest
stretch. As Mike sent out last week, the phone lines in the region
here in central Ontario were slightly devastated by falling trees
during some crazy storms. Just another case of Mother Nature flexing
her muscle and wrecking havoc to diplomacy games everywhere.

In any event, I am in the situation where I have to seek out a
replacement Archers player. I've begun the process already, and
hopefully this will not be too long of a search. However, I will be
out of touch and out of contact while I travel to the Stratford
Festival over the next 3 days...

Thanks for the patience everyone, and I will be sending out word once
again on Friday August 14th - just to let you all know what the latest
and greatest news is.

Cheers!

Storm Debris Trout


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dc252 - tonight! - FuzzyLogic   (Aug 11, 2009, 9:15 am)
Your moves are due tomorrow
So without much time to borrow
It's time to write
some orders tonight
else yours will be filled with sorrow

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