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DC 247: W1919 - AceRimmer   (Aug 08, 2009, 6:51 am)
Well, in consideration of my delay in the Fall adjudication, I've waited until the next morning to adjudicate Winter.  Even so, there's no adjustment from Russia.  However, as there is also no retreat from Italy, the Russian NBR is irrelevant (and unofficial for that matter).  Not so lucky for France, who completes the NRR/NBR trifecta (really just a pair, because Russia, as I said, doesn't count).

F1919R

Italian Army Rumania disbands (leaving Italy unitless)

You may think this leaves Italy off the hook for orders and NMRs from now on... but it does not.  According to tournament rules, any player who NMRs is a 'No' vote for draws.  But *after* the 4th consecutive NMR, such nations are considered to be voting 'Yes'.  Italy just turned in his third NMR.  Italy still has an SC, so he has not been eliminated, which means his vote is necessary for draws.
     So, if Benjy does not vote on a draw before Monday's adjudication, I will consider Italy to have NMR'd a fourth time, but his vote for Monday will still be considered a 'No'.  Clear?

     Good, because there's another 4-way proposal for Monday Smile

W1919
England builds armies in Edinburgh and London.
France waives.
Turkey builds a fleet in Constantinople.

See you all (I hope!) on Monday.

[Reply]

DC261 - Fall 1903 Results - JimR   (Aug 08, 2009, 6:19 am)
Here is some supporting data for Jorge’s link,

http://www.diplom.org/~diparch/resources/rulebooks/2000AH4th.pdf

Page 7 – “How to Support” paragraph 2:

A Fleet that can move to a province with two separate coasts (a Fleet in the Mid-Atlantic, for example) can support another Army or Fleet into that province(in this case Spain) without regard to separate coastlines.

Jim R.

From: Jorge Saralegui [mailto:jmsaralegui(at)gmail.com]
Sent: Saturday, August 08, 2009 7:01 AM
To: Josh E.
Cc: dc261(at)diplomaticcorp.com; Ben Leapman; Benjamin Hester; Mark Duffield; Benjamin Hester; Ben Leapman; Jim Rossiter; Eric Shum; David Zilkha; Mike Sims
Subject: Re: DC261 - Fall 1903 Results


I assume the issue is whether Russia's support is valid because his fleet is on the "wrong" coast. The answer is Yes: the rules restrict movement, but say nothing about restricting support; therefore, the basic "unrestricted" rule applies. This is not an ambiguity. According to the rules, a fleet occupies the entire province - not just one coast. As a result, support against it can come from anywhere adjacent.

Here Is Play Diplomacy Online on the same issue:



"3 provinces on the board generate common questions regarding supports with fleets, St Petersburg (STP), Spain (SPA), and Bulgaria (BUL). Those provinces have coasts, STP nc and STP sc, SPA nc and SPA sc, and BUL ec and BUL sc, with nc and sc and ec standing for North, South or East coasts respectivly. If your fleet unit can reach any coast of that province (1, or the other, or both), it can both SUPPORT a MOVE into the province in its entirety, and SUPPORT a unit in that province to HOLD against another unit's order to MOVE there. SUPPORT into a province, either to HOLD there or to MOVE there are not specific to a Coast. This means my fleet in Barents Sea, near STP nc, can support the MOVE of a fleet in Livonia into STP sc (the only coast it can reach), and the order is valid. Please note, this can be confusing to new players."



http://www.playdiplomacy.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=13&t=4269



Jorge


On Sat, Aug 8, 2009 at 1:17 AM, Josh E. <aramis604(at)yahoo.com ([email]aramis604(at)yahoo.com[/email])> wrote:
I have received a number of questions regarding the revision for Fall 1903 wondering why the initial order was invalid. I have reviewed the relevant rules from the Diplomacy rule book and my interpretation leads me to believe that the support order given was invalid. However the rules are not as succinct and I would like them to be so I am going to seek an outside opinion on this matter. For the moment please consider DC261 paused while I converse with other GMs to clear this issue up.

- Josh




From: Josh E. <aramis604(at)yahoo.com ([email]aramis604(at)yahoo.com[/email])>
To: dc261(at)diplomaticcorp.com ([email]dc261(at)diplomaticcorp.com[/email]); Benjamin Hester <benjamin.hester(at)us.army.mil ([email]benjamin.hester(at)us.army.mil[/email])>; Ben Leapman <ben.leapman(at)telegraph.co.uk ([email]ben.leapman(at)telegraph.co.uk[/email])>; Mark Duffield <captain_sicarius(at)hotmail.com ([email]captain_sicarius(at)hotmail.com[/email])>; Benjamin Hester <screwtape777(at)gmail.com ([email]screwtape777(at)gmail.com[/email])>; Ben Leapman <ben.leapman(at)ntlworld.com ([email]ben.leapman(at)ntlworld.com[/email])>; Jim Rossiter <jarossiter(at)tampabay.rr.com ([email]jarossiter(at)tampabay.rr.com[/email])>; Jorge Saralegui <jmsaralegui(at)gmail.com ([email]jmsaralegui(at)gmail.com[/email])>; Eric Shum <ecommander0(at)hotmail.com ([email]ecommander0(at)hotmail.com[/email])>; David Zilkha <davidzil(at)lycos.com ([email]davidzil(at)lycos.com[/email])>
Cc: Mike Sims <mike(at)fuzzylogicllc.net ([email]mike(at)fuzzylogicllc.net[/email])>

Sent: Friday, August 7, 2009 9:21:52 PM
Subject: Re: DC261 - Fall 1903 Results

There is a correction that needs to be made on the Fall 1903 orders.

The support order given from the Russian fleet in Romania to the Austrian fleet in Greece was invalid. The result of which is that Bulgaria was not dislodged and subsequently disbanded, Greece failed to move, and the Fleet coming from the Ionian Sea bounced in Greece.

This does impact the adjustments phase also... below are the required adjustments. I am going to keep the current deadline, but anyone needs more time I will grant one 24 hour extension if requested.

Adjustments:

Austria: Supp 5 Unit 4 Build 1
England: Supp 4 Unit 4 Build 0
France: Supp 6 Unit 5 Build 1
Germany: Supp 6 Unit 7 Remove 1
Italy: Supp 4 Unit 4 Build 0
Russia: Supp 5 Unit 5 Build 0
Turkey: Supp 4 Unit 4 Build 0



From: Josh E. <aramis604(at)yahoo.com ([email]aramis604(at)yahoo.com[/email])>
To: dc261(at)diplomaticcorp.com ([email]dc261(at)diplomaticcorp.com[/email]); Benjamin Hester <benjamin.hester(at)us.army.mil ([email]benjamin.hester(at)us.army.mil[/email])>; Ben Leapman <ben.leapman(at)telegraph.co.uk ([email]ben.leapman(at)telegraph.co.uk[/email])>; Mark Duffield <captain_sicarius(at)hotmail.com ([email]captain_sicarius(at)hotmail.com[/email])>; Benjamin Hester <screwtape777(at)gmail.com ([email]screwtape777(at)gmail.com[/email])>; Ben Leapman <ben.leapman(at)ntlworld.com ([email]ben.leapman(at)ntlworld.com[/email])>; Jim Rossiter <jarossiter(at)tampabay.rr.com ([email]jarossiter(at)tampabay.rr.com[/email])>; Jorge Saralegui <jmsaralegui(at)gmail.com ([email]jmsaralegui(at)gmail.com[/email])>; Eric Shum <ecommander0(at)hotmail.com ([email]ecommander0(at)hotmail.com[/email])>; David Zilkha <davidzil(at)lycos.com ([email]davidzil(at)lycos.com[/email])>
Cc: Mike Sims <mike(at)fuzzylogicllc.net ([email]mike(at)fuzzylogicllc.net[/email])>
Sent: Friday, August 7, 2009 10:58:05 AM
Subject: DC261 - Fall 1903 Results
The results are in! Sorry I didn't get these out last night but I ended up falling asleep on the couch.

No Retreats required.

********************
Austria:
A Bohemia Supports A Silesia - Munich
F Greece - Bulgaria(sc)
A Serbia Supports F Greece - Bulgaria(sc)
A Silesia - Munich (*Fails*)

England:
F Barents Sea Supports A Norway - St Petersburg
A Norway - St Petersburg (*Fails*)
F Wales - London
A Yorkshire - Norway (*Fails*)

France:
F English Channel - Belgium
A Gascony - Paris
F Mid-Atlantic Ocean - English Channel
F Picardy Supports F English Channel - Belgium
A Spain - Marseilles

Germany:
F Baltic Sea - Denmark
A Berlin Supports A Munich
A Burgundy - Belgium (*Fails*)
A Munich Hold
F North Sea - Norway (*Bounce*)
A Ruhr Supports A Munich
A Sweden Supports F North Sea - Norway

Italy:
F Aegean Sea - Constantinople (*Fails*)
F Ionian Sea - Greece
A Syria - Smyrna (*Fails*)
A Tyrolia Supports A Silesia - Munich

Russia:
F Rumania Supports F Greece - Bulgaria(sc)
A Sevastopol Supports F Rumania
F Skagerrak Supports F St Petersburg(nc) - Norway
F St Petersburg(nc) - Norway (*Bounce*)
A Warsaw Supports A Silesia (*Ordered to Move*)

Turkey:
F Black Sea Supports A Bulgaria
A Bulgaria, no move received (*Disbanded*)
F Constantinople Supports A Bulgaria (*Cut*)
A Smyrna Hold

*******************
Adjustments:
Austria: Supp 5 Unit 4 Build 1
England: Supp 4 Unit 4 Build 0
France: Supp 6 Unit 5 Build 1
Germany: Supp 6 Unit 7 Remove 1
Italy: Supp 5 Unit 4 Build 1
Russia: Supp 5 Unit 5 Build 0
Turkey: Supp 3 Unit 3 Build 0

Winter 1903 is due Tuesday, August 11th by 9pm Pacific Time.

- Josh

[Reply]

DC261 - Fall 1903 Results - txurce   (Aug 08, 2009, 6:01 am)
I assume the issue is whether Russia's support is valid because his fleet is on the "wrong" coast.  The answer is Yes: the rules restrict movement, but say nothing about restricting support; therefore, the basic "unrestricted" rule applies.  This is not an ambiguity.  According to the rules, a fleet occupies the entire province  - not just one coast.  As a result, support against it can come from anywhere adjacent.
Here Is Play Diplomacy Online on the same issue:


"3 provinces on the board generate common questions regarding supports with fleets, St Petersburg (STP), Spain (SPA), and Bulgaria (BUL). Those provinces have coasts, STP nc and STP sc, SPA nc and SPA sc, and BUL ec and BUL sc, with nc and sc and ec standing for North, South or East coasts respectivly. If your fleet unit can reach any coast of that province (1, or the other, or both), it can both SUPPORT a MOVE into the province in its entirety, and SUPPORT a unit in that province to HOLD against another unit's order to MOVE there. SUPPORT into a province, either to HOLD there or to MOVE there are not specific to a Coast. This means my fleet in Barents Sea, near STP nc, can support the MOVE of a fleet in Livonia into STP sc (the only coast it can reach), and the order is valid. Please note, this can be confusing to new players."


http://www.playdiplomacy.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=13&t=4269


Jorge

On Sat, Aug 8, 2009 at 1:17 AM, Josh E. <aramis604(at)yahoo.com ([email]aramis604(at)yahoo.com[/email])> wrote:

I have received a number of questions regarding the revision for Fall 1903 wondering why the initial order was invalid. I have reviewed the relevant rules from the Diplomacy rule book and my interpretation leads me to believe that the support order given was invalid. However the rules are not as succinct and I would like them to be so I am going to seek an outside opinion on this matter. For the moment please consider DC261 paused while I converse with other GMs to clear this issue up.

- Josh



From: Josh E. <aramis604(at)yahoo.com ([email]aramis604(at)yahoo.com[/email])>
To: dc261(at)diplomaticcorp.com ([email]dc261(at)diplomaticcorp.com[/email]); Benjamin Hester <benjamin.hester(at)us.army.mil ([email]benjamin.hester(at)us.army.mil[/email])>; Ben Leapman <ben.leapman(at)telegraph.co.uk ([email]ben.leapman(at)telegraph.co.uk[/email])>; Mark Duffield <captain_sicarius(at)hotmail.com ([email]captain_sicarius(at)hotmail.com[/email])>; Benjamin Hester <screwtape777(at)gmail.com ([email]screwtape777(at)gmail.com[/email])>; Ben Leapman <ben.leapman(at)ntlworld.com ([email]ben.leapman(at)ntlworld.com[/email])>; Jim Rossiter <jarossiter(at)tampabay.rr.com ([email]jarossiter(at)tampabay.rr.com[/email])>; Jorge Saralegui <jmsaralegui(at)gmail.com ([email]jmsaralegui(at)gmail.com[/email])>; Eric Shum <ecommander0(at)hotmail.com ([email]ecommander0(at)hotmail.com[/email])>; David Zilkha <davidzil(at)lycos.com ([email]davidzil(at)lycos.com[/email])>
Cc: Mike Sims <mike(at)fuzzylogicllc.net ([email]mike(at)fuzzylogicllc.net[/email])>

Sent: Friday, August 7, 2009 9:21:52 PM
Subject: Re: DC261 - Fall 1903 Results


There is a correction that needs to be made on the Fall 1903 orders.

The support order given from the Russian fleet in Romania to the Austrian fleet in Greece was invalid. The result of which is that Bulgaria was not dislodged and subsequently disbanded, Greece failed to move, and the Fleet coming from the Ionian Sea bounced in Greece.

This does impact the adjustments phase also... below are the required adjustments. I am going to keep the current deadline, but anyone needs more time I will grant one 24 hour extension if requested.

Adjustments:

Austria:   Supp  5 Unit  4 Build  1
England:   Supp  4 Unit  4 Build  0
France:    Supp  6 Unit  5 Build  1
Germany:   Supp  6 Unit  7 Remove  1
Italy:     Supp  4 Unit  4 Build  0
Russia:    Supp  5 Unit  5 Build  0
Turkey:    Supp  4 Unit  4 Build  0



From: Josh E. <aramis604(at)yahoo.com ([email]aramis604(at)yahoo.com[/email])>
To: dc261(at)diplomaticcorp.com ([email]dc261(at)diplomaticcorp.com[/email]); Benjamin Hester <benjamin.hester(at)us.army.mil ([email]benjamin.hester(at)us.army.mil[/email])>; Ben Leapman <ben.leapman(at)telegraph.co.uk ([email]ben.leapman(at)telegraph.co.uk[/email])>; Mark Duffield <captain_sicarius(at)hotmail.com ([email]captain_sicarius(at)hotmail.com[/email])>; Benjamin Hester <screwtape777(at)gmail.com ([email]screwtape777(at)gmail.com[/email])>; Ben Leapman <ben.leapman(at)ntlworld.com ([email]ben.leapman(at)ntlworld.com[/email])>; Jim Rossiter <jarossiter(at)tampabay.rr.com ([email]jarossiter(at)tampabay.rr.com[/email])>; Jorge Saralegui <jmsaralegui(at)gmail.com ([email]jmsaralegui(at)gmail.com[/email])>; Eric Shum <ecommander0(at)hotmail.com ([email]ecommander0(at)hotmail.com[/email])>; David Zilkha <davidzil(at)lycos.com ([email]davidzil(at)lycos.com[/email])>
Cc: Mike Sims <mike(at)fuzzylogicllc.net ([email]mike(at)fuzzylogicllc.net[/email])>
Sent: Friday, August 7, 2009 10:58:05 AM
Subject: DC261 - Fall 1903 Results

The results are in! Sorry I didn't get these out last night but I ended up falling asleep on the couch.

No Retreats required.

********************
Austria:
A Bohemia Supports A Silesia - Munich
F Greece - Bulgaria(sc)
A Serbia Supports F Greece - Bulgaria(sc)
A Silesia - Munich (*Fails*)

England:
F Barents Sea Supports A Norway - St Petersburg
A Norway - St Petersburg (*Fails*)
F Wales - London
A Yorkshire - Norway (*Fails*)

France:
F English Channel - Belgium
A Gascony - Paris
F Mid-Atlantic Ocean - English Channel
F Picardy Supports F English Channel - Belgium
A Spain - Marseilles

Germany:
F Baltic Sea - Denmark
A Berlin Supports A Munich
A Burgundy - Belgium (*Fails*)
A Munich Hold
F North Sea - Norway (*Bounce*)
A Ruhr Supports A Munich
A Sweden Supports F North Sea - Norway

Italy:
F Aegean Sea - Constantinople (*Fails*)
F Ionian Sea - Greece
A Syria - Smyrna (*Fails*)
A Tyrolia Supports A Silesia - Munich

Russia:
F Rumania Supports F Greece - Bulgaria(sc)
A Sevastopol Supports F Rumania
F Skagerrak Supports F St Petersburg(nc) - Norway
F St Petersburg(nc) - Norway (*Bounce*)
A Warsaw Supports A Silesia (*Ordered to Move*)

Turkey:
F Black Sea Supports A Bulgaria
A Bulgaria, no move received (*Disbanded*)
F Constantinople Supports A Bulgaria (*Cut*)
A Smyrna Hold

*******************
Adjustments:
Austria:   Supp  5 Unit  4 Build  1
England:   Supp  4 Unit  4 Build  0
France:    Supp  6 Unit  5 Build  1
Germany:   Supp  6 Unit  7 Remove  1
Italy:     Supp  5 Unit  4 Build  1
Russia:    Supp  5 Unit  5 Build  0
Turkey:    Supp  3 Unit  3 Build  0

Winter 1903 is due Tuesday, August 11th by 9pm Pacific Time.

- Josh











[Reply]

dc265 ~ European Onion - sgttodd   (Aug 08, 2009, 12:22 am)
Deadline for Spring 1903 is Wednesday, August 12th; 2359 UTC.

Adjustment orders for Winter of 1902. (dc265)

Austria: Remove A Albania.
Austria: Remove F Ionian Sea.

England: Remove A Yorkshire.

Italy: Build A Rome.
Italy: Build F Naples.

Russia: Build A Warsaw.
Russia: Build A Moscow.

Turkey: Build F Smyrna.

Unit locations:

Austria: A Serbia, A Vienna.
England: A Edinburgh, F English Channel, F Norwegian Sea.
France: A Marseilles, F North Africa, A Paris, A Piedmont, F Western Mediterranean.
Germany: A Belgium, A Denmark, F Holland, A Kiel, A Munich, F North Sea.
Italy: F Naples, A Rome, A Trieste, F Tyrrhenian Sea, A Venice.
Russia: F Barents Sea, A Budapest, A Finland, A Moscow, F Norway, A Rumania, F Sevastopol, A Warsaw.
Turkey: F Aegean Sea, A Bulgaria, A Constantinople, A Greece, F Smyrna.

Deadline for Spring 1903; Wednesday, August 12th; 2359 UTC
files: http://mainecav.org/diplomacy

[Reply]

DC261 - Fall 1903 Results - aramis604   (Aug 08, 2009, 12:18 am)
I have received a number of questions regarding the revision for Fall 1903 wondering why the initial order was invalid. I have reviewed the relevant rules from the Diplomacy rule book and my interpretation leads me to believe that the support order given was invalid. However the rules are not as succinct and I would like them to be so I am going to seek an outside opinion on this matter. For the moment please consider DC261 paused while I converse with other GMs to clear this issue up.

- Josh



From: Josh E. <aramis604(at)yahoo.com>
To: dc261(at)diplomaticcorp.com; Benjamin Hester <benjamin.hester(at)us.army.mil>; Ben Leapman <ben.leapman(at)telegraph.co.uk>; Mark Duffield <captain_sicarius(at)hotmail.com>; Benjamin Hester <screwtape777(at)gmail.com>; Ben Leapman <ben.leapman(at)ntlworld.com>; Jim Rossiter <jarossiter(at)tampabay.rr.com>; Jorge Saralegui <jmsaralegui(at)gmail.com>; Eric Shum <ecommander0(at)hotmail.com>; David Zilkha <davidzil(at)lycos.com>
Cc: Mike Sims <mike(at)fuzzylogicllc.net>
Sent: Friday, August 7, 2009 9:21:52 PM
Subject: Re: DC261 - Fall 1903 Results

There is a correction that needs to be made on the Fall 1903 orders.

The support order given from the Russian fleet in Romania to the Austrian fleet in Greece was invalid. The result of which is that Bulgaria was not dislodged and subsequently disbanded, Greece failed to move, and the Fleet coming from the Ionian Sea bounced in Greece.

This does impact the adjustments phase also... below are the required adjustments. I am going to keep the current deadline, but anyone needs more time I will grant one 24 hour extension if requested.

Adjustments:

Austria: Supp 5 Unit 4 Build 1
England: Supp 4 Unit 4 Build 0
France: Supp 6 Unit 5 Build 1
Germany: Supp 6 Unit 7 Remove 1
Italy: Supp 4 Unit 4 Build 0
Russia: Supp 5 Unit 5 Build 0
Turkey: Supp 4 Unit 4 Build 0



From: Josh E. <aramis604(at)yahoo.com>
To: dc261(at)diplomaticcorp.com; Benjamin Hester <benjamin.hester(at)us.army.mil>; Ben Leapman <ben.leapman(at)telegraph.co.uk>; Mark Duffield <captain_sicarius(at)hotmail.com>; Benjamin Hester <screwtape777(at)gmail.com>; Ben Leapman <ben.leapman(at)ntlworld.com>; Jim Rossiter <jarossiter(at)tampabay.rr.com>; Jorge Saralegui <jmsaralegui(at)gmail.com>; Eric Shum <ecommander0(at)hotmail.com>; David Zilkha <davidzil(at)lycos.com>
Cc: Mike Sims <mike(at)fuzzylogicllc.net>
Sent: Friday, August 7, 2009 10:58:05 AM
Subject: DC261 - Fall 1903 Results

The results are in! Sorry I didn't get these out last night but I ended up falling asleep on the couch.

No Retreats required.

********************
Austria:
A Bohemia Supports A Silesia - Munich
F Greece - Bulgaria(sc)
A Serbia Supports F Greece - Bulgaria(sc)
A Silesia - Munich (*Fails*)

England:
F Barents Sea Supports A Norway - St Petersburg
A Norway - St Petersburg (*Fails*)
F Wales - London
A Yorkshire - Norway (*Fails*)

France:
F English Channel - Belgium
A Gascony - Paris
F Mid-Atlantic Ocean - English Channel
F Picardy Supports F English Channel - Belgium
A Spain - Marseilles

Germany:
F Baltic Sea - Denmark
A Berlin Supports A Munich
A Burgundy - Belgium (*Fails*)
A Munich Hold
F North Sea - Norway (*Bounce*)
A Ruhr Supports A Munich
A Sweden Supports F North Sea - Norway

Italy:
F Aegean Sea - Constantinople (*Fails*)
F Ionian Sea - Greece
A Syria - Smyrna (*Fails*)
A Tyrolia Supports A Silesia - Munich

Russia:
F Rumania Supports F Greece - Bulgaria(sc)
A Sevastopol Supports F Rumania
F Skagerrak Supports F St Petersburg(nc) - Norway
F St Petersburg(nc) - Norway (*Bounce*)
A Warsaw Supports A Silesia (*Ordered to Move*)

Turkey:
F Black Sea Supports A Bulgaria
A Bulgaria, no move received (*Disbanded*)
F Constantinople Supports A Bulgaria (*Cut*)
A Smyrna Hold

*******************
Adjustments:
Austria: Supp 5 Unit 4 Build 1
England: Supp 4 Unit 4 Build 0
France: Supp 6 Unit 5 Build 1
Germany: Supp 6 Unit 7 Remove 1
Italy: Supp 5 Unit 4 Build 1
Russia: Supp 5 Unit 5 Build 0
Turkey: Supp 3 Unit 3 Build 0

Winter 1903 is due Tuesday, August 11th by 9pm Pacific Time.

- Josh

[Reply]

DC261 - Fall 1903 Results - aramis604   (Aug 07, 2009, 11:22 pm)
There is a correction that needs to be made on the Fall 1903 orders.

The support order given from the Russian fleet in Romania to the Austrian fleet in Greece was invalid. The result of which is that Bulgaria was not dislodged and subsequently disbanded, Greece failed to move, and the Fleet coming from the Ionian Sea bounced in Greece.

This does impact the adjustments phase also... below are the required adjustments. I am going to keep the current deadline, but anyone needs more time I will grant one 24 hour extension if requested.

Adjustments:

Austria: Supp 5 Unit 4 Build 1
England: Supp 4 Unit 4 Build 0
France: Supp 6 Unit 5 Build 1
Germany: Supp 6 Unit 7 Remove 1
Italy: Supp 4 Unit 4 Build 0
Russia: Supp 5 Unit 5 Build 0
Turkey: Supp 4 Unit 4 Build 0



From: Josh E. <aramis604(at)yahoo.com>
To: dc261(at)diplomaticcorp.com; Benjamin Hester <benjamin.hester(at)us.army.mil>; Ben Leapman <ben.leapman(at)telegraph.co.uk>; Mark Duffield <captain_sicarius(at)hotmail.com>; Benjamin Hester <screwtape777(at)gmail.com>; Ben Leapman <ben.leapman(at)ntlworld.com>; Jim Rossiter <jarossiter(at)tampabay.rr.com>; Jorge Saralegui <jmsaralegui(at)gmail.com>; Eric Shum <ecommander0(at)hotmail.com>; David Zilkha <davidzil(at)lycos.com>
Cc: Mike Sims <mike(at)fuzzylogicllc.net>
Sent: Friday, August 7, 2009 10:58:05 AM
Subject: DC261 - Fall 1903 Results

The results are in! Sorry I didn't get these out last night but I ended up falling asleep on the couch.

No Retreats required.

********************
Austria:
A Bohemia Supports A Silesia - Munich
F Greece - Bulgaria(sc)
A Serbia Supports F Greece - Bulgaria(sc)
A Silesia - Munich (*Fails*)

England:
F Barents Sea Supports A Norway - St Petersburg
A Norway - St Petersburg (*Fails*)
F Wales - London
A Yorkshire - Norway (*Fails*)

France:
F English Channel - Belgium
A Gascony - Paris
F Mid-Atlantic Ocean - English Channel
F Picardy Supports F English Channel - Belgium
A Spain - Marseilles

Germany:
F Baltic Sea - Denmark
A Berlin Supports A Munich
A Burgundy - Belgium (*Fails*)
A Munich Hold
F North Sea - Norway (*Bounce*)
A Ruhr Supports A Munich
A Sweden Supports F North Sea - Norway

Italy:
F Aegean Sea - Constantinople (*Fails*)
F Ionian Sea - Greece
A Syria - Smyrna (*Fails*)
A Tyrolia Supports A Silesia - Munich

Russia:
F Rumania Supports F Greece - Bulgaria(sc)
A Sevastopol Supports F Rumania
F Skagerrak Supports F St Petersburg(nc) - Norway
F St Petersburg(nc) - Norway (*Bounce*)
A Warsaw Supports A Silesia (*Ordered to Move*)

Turkey:
F Black Sea Supports A Bulgaria
A Bulgaria, no move received (*Disbanded*)
F Constantinople Supports A Bulgaria (*Cut*)
A Smyrna Hold

*******************
Adjustments:
Austria: Supp 5 Unit 4 Build 1
England: Supp 4 Unit 4 Build 0
France: Supp 6 Unit 5 Build 1
Germany: Supp 6 Unit 7 Remove 1
Italy: Supp 5 Unit 4 Build 1
Russia: Supp 5 Unit 5 Build 0
Turkey: Supp 3 Unit 3 Build 0

Winter 1903 is due Tuesday, August 11th by 9pm Pacific Time.

- Josh

[Reply]

DC261 - Fall 1903 Results - benjamin.hester at us....   (Aug 07, 2009, 9:09 pm)
As much as I hate to confess this, isn't Russian F Rum S F Gre - Bul SC an invalid support, and therefore Turkey's unit in Bulgaria survives? Unless you're adjudicating that it is dislodged because the unit in Bulgaria was an NMR?

B.

Benjamin T. Hester
CPT, QM
300th Sustainment Brigade
SPO Plans Supply and Services


From: Josh E. [aramis604(at)yahoo.com]
Sent: Friday, August 07, 2009 12:58
To: dc261(at)diplomaticcorp.com; Hester, Benjamin T CPT RES USAR USARC; Ben Leapman; Mark Duffield; Benjamin Hester; Ben Leapman; Jim Rossiter; Jorge Saralegui; Eric Shum; David Zilkha
Cc: Mike Sims
Subject: DC261 - Fall 1903 Results



The results are in! Sorry I didn't get these out last night but I ended up falling asleep on the couch.

No Retreats required.

********************
Austria:
A Bohemia Supports A Silesia - Munich
F Greece - Bulgaria(sc)
A Serbia Supports F Greece - Bulgaria(sc)
A Silesia - Munich (*Fails*)

England:
F Barents Sea Supports A Norway - St Petersburg
A Norway - St Petersburg (*Fails*)
F Wales - London
A Yorkshire - Norway (*Fails*)

France:
F English Channel - Belgium
A Gascony - Paris
F Mid-Atlantic Ocean - English Channel
F Picardy Supports F English Channel - Belgium
A Spain - Marseilles

Germany:
F Baltic Sea - Denmark
A Berlin Supports A Munich
A Burgundy - Belgium (*Fails*)
A Munich Hold
F North Sea - Norway (*Bounce*)
A Ruhr Supports A Munich
A Sweden Supports F North Sea - Norway

Italy:
F Aegean Sea - Constantinople (*Fails*)
F Ionian Sea - Greece
A Syria - Smyrna (*Fails*)
A Tyrolia Supports A Silesia - Munich

Russia:
F Rumania Supports F Greece - Bulgaria(sc)
A Sevastopol Supports F Rumania
F Skagerrak Supports F St Petersburg(nc) - Norway
F St Petersburg(nc) - Norway (*Bounce*)
A Warsaw Supports A Silesia (*Ordered to Move*)

Turkey:
F Black Sea Supports A Bulgaria
A Bulgaria, no move received (*Disbanded*)
F Constantinople Supports A Bulgaria (*Cut*)
A Smyrna Hold

*******************
Adjustments:
Austria: Supp 5 Unit 4 Build 1
England: Supp 4 Unit 4 Build 0
France: Supp 6 Unit 5 Build 1
Germany: Supp 6 Unit 7 Remove 1
Italy: Supp 5 Unit 4 Build 1
Russia: Supp 5 Unit 5 Build 0
Turkey: Supp 3 Unit 3 Build 0

Winter 1903 is due Tuesday, August 11th by 9pm Pacific Time.

- Josh

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DC 262: Angstskrik - Adjudication Delayed - benjamin.hester at us....   (Aug 07, 2009, 8:55 pm)
Players and DC Community at large -

I beg your mercy for the delayed adjudication - I have just arrived home from annual training, and have not had much internet access at all the past two days. I will adjudicate by Sunday evening at the latest. All players may revise their orders up until 1700 Sunday.

As a reminder, the current season is Winter 826. The map and RP file following the Autumn retreats adjudication are attached. After Sunday, we should resume our normal schedule and this game will run hopefully run smoothly with no more GM-induced confusion. I thank you all for your patience as I completed my training in Wisconsin.

B.

Benjamin T. Hester
CPT, QM
300th Sustainment Brigade
SPO Plans Supply and Services

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DC 262: Angstskrik - Adjudication Delayed (dc262) Nigs Aug 08, 11:48 am
Guys,

just got back from 2 weeks in the scottish highlands : I'll read and reply to all emails in the next few hours, to be sure to meet this deadline, rather than just using my provisional orders.


cheers


Nigs

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Subject: DC 262: Angstskrik - Adjudication Delayed
Date: Sat, 8 Aug 2009 01:54:43 +0000

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Players and DC Community at large -

I beg your mercy for the delayed adjudication - I have just arrived home from annual training, and have not had much internet access at all the past two days. I will adjudicate by Sunday evening at the latest. All players may revise their orders up until 1700 Sunday.

As a reminder, the current season is Winter 826. The map and RP file following the Autumn retreats adjudication are attached. After Sunday, we should resume our normal schedule and this game will run hopefully run smoothly with no more GM-induced confusion. I thank you all for your patience as I completed my training in Wisconsin.

B.

Benjamin T. Hester
CPT, QM
300th Sustainment Brigade
SPO Plans Supply and Services




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DC253 F06 APPIAN A-WAY - vegas_iwish   (Aug 07, 2009, 8:55 pm)
Italy implodes though the block of the Turk convoy slows T down a bit. Not as doctrinaire on this 1 as the Shifts & Milan but some decisions of mult players I strongly questioned in my mind earlier continue to bear bitter fruit now. Lets get adjs Mon. Poland can disb the ret & send in a build if he wants.
Poland:
A Ber Hold
A Kie Supports A Sev - Mos (*Cut*)
A Pra - Mun (*Fails*)
A Pri - Kra (*Bounce*)
A Sev - Mos (*Dislodged*)RET MOL. CAN DISB WITH WINTER ORDERS
A Slo - Kra (*Bounce*)
F WBS - Swe (*Fails*)

Britain:
A Den Supports F WBS - Den (*Fails*)
F Eng Supports F MAO
A Hol Supports A Ham
F MAO Hold
F NAO - Nwg
F Nth Supports A Osl
F Nwg - Bar
A Osl Supports F WBS - Den (*Fails*)
A Yor - Edi

France:
A Bur - Mar
A Ham Hold
A Mun Supports A Swi - Aus (*Cut*)
A Swi - Aus (*Bounce*)

Italy:
A Aus Supports A Pie - Tri (*Cut*)
A Pie - Tri (*Fails*)
F Tun - Lib (*Bounce*)
F Tus - Rom (*Fails*)
F Tys Supports F Tus - Rom

USSR:
F Fin Supports A Swe
F Lap - Len(nc)
A Mol - Buc
A Swe Supports A Osl (*Cut*)

Turkey:
A Arm - Sev
F Bla Supports A Arm - Sev
F EMS Convoys A Kur - Lib
F Ion Convoys A Kur - Lib
A Kur - Lib (*Bounce*)
A Mos Supports A Gal - Kie (*Cut*)
F Nap Supports F Rom
F Rom Hold
A Tra - hun (*Fails*)
A Tri Supports A hun - Aus (*Cut*)

Czechoslovakia:
A Gal - Kie (*Fails*)
A hun - Aus (*Bounce*)

Spain:
F Por Hold
F WMS - Tun (*Fails*)
Adjustments:

Poland: Supp 7 Unit 7 Build 0
Britain: Supp 9 Unit 9 Build 0
France: Supp 5 Unit 4 Build 1
Germany: Supp 0 Unit 0 Build 0
Italy: Supp 2 Unit 5 Remove 3
USSR: Supp 4 Unit 4 Build 0
Turkey: Supp 12 Unit 10 Build 2
Czechoslovakia: Supp 2 Unit 2 Build 0
Egypt: Supp 0 Unit 0 Build 0
Greece: Supp 0 Unit 0 Build 0
Rumania: Supp 0 Unit 0 Build 0
Spain: Supp 2 Unit 2 Build 0
Sweden: Supp 0 Unit 0 Build 0
Yugoslavia: Supp 0 Unit 0 Build 0

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DC267 Summer 2011 Retreat - MattTheLesser   (Aug 07, 2009, 8:49 pm)
Norway got his retreat in quickly so I thought I'd publish it so we
don't have to deal with conditional builds. Norway retreats F
Longyearbyen - Barents Sea. The deadline for Summer 2011 Adjustments
remains the same: Monday at 9 eastern.

Matt

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DC267 Summer 2011 Results - MattTheLesser   (Aug 07, 2009, 8:32 pm)
With the first summer comes a number of interesting turns of events!
Denmark becomes the first power to allow a unit succumb to the climate,
choosing to have his A Yermak Plateau give a final support before
drowning; but it was a successful endeavor for the Danes as the support
sees a Danish fleet seize control of Longyearbyen from the Norwegians.
Elsewhere the Norwegians manage to keep the supply center count by
assimilating the North Pole, but that may not last long as Russia uses a
convoy to put a second army on the permanent ice. Lastly, in North
America the Canadians have a very successful summer; despite having had
an army drown in the spring they manage to pick up two more centers,
giving them a mighty three builds this winter.

We have one retreat: Norwegian F Longyearbyen may retreat to Barents
Sea, Franz Joseph Land, Yermak Plateau, or OTB. That retreat and the
Summer 2011 Adjustments will be due this coming Monday, August 10, at 9
pm eastern. Adjustments due are listed below the adjudication and
adjustments may be conditional on the retreat. As usual I will
adjudicate as soon as I have received orders from all required parties.

Matt

Adjudication:

Canada:
F Labrador Sea - Baffin Bay
F North Atlantic Ocean - Labrador Sea
A Queen Elizabeth Islands Hold
A Victoria Island Hold

Denmark:
F Denmark Strait - Nuuk
F Greenland Sea - Longyearbyen
F Iceland Supports F Oslo - North Atlantic Ocean (*Void*)
A Yermak Plateau S F Greenland Sea - Longyearbyen (*Disbanded*)

Norway:
F Longyearbyen Supports F Norwegian Sea - Greenland Sea (*Dislodged*)
A North Pole Hold
F Norwegian Sea - Greenland Sea
F Oslo - Norwegian Sea

Russia:
A Arctic Wasteland - Mendeleyev Ridge
F East Siberian Sea Convoys A Pevek - Arctic Wasteland
F Kamchatka Hold
A Pevek - Arctic Wasteland
A Ural Mountains - Novaya Zemlya

USA:
A Barrow - Yukon
A Beaufort Sea - Victoria Island (*Fails*) (*Disbanded*)
F Chukchi Sea Supports F West Bering Sea
F Seward Peninsula Supports F Chukchi Sea
A Western Canada Hold

Adjustments due:

Canada:
Build
Build
Build

Denmark:
Build
Build

Norway:
Build if retreat OTB

USA:
Build

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DC266 Autumn/Winter 1902 Results - MattTheLesser   (Aug 07, 2009, 8:32 pm)
Both the retreats are OTB, and then factories are hard at work all over
the board preparing for the battles to come in 1903.

The deadline for Spring 1903 will be this coming Tuesday, August 11, at
9 pm eastern. Prelims are always encouraged!

Matt

Retreats:

Austria:
Disband F Greece

Russia:
Disband F Gulf of Bothnia

Adjustments:

England:
Build A Edinburgh

Germany:
Build F Kiel
Build A Munich

Italy:
Build F Naples

Russia:
Build A Warsaw
Build A Moscow

Turkey:
Build F Smyrna

1
DC266
Standard
Spring 1903
0
7
0
ser, tri, vie.
A ser, A tri, A vie
0
edi, lon, nwy, stp.
A edi, A lon, F nwy, F stp(nc)
0
bre, lvp, por, spa.
F bre, F lyo, A lvp, A spa
0
bel, ber, den, hol, kie, mun, par, swe.
A bur, F bot, F kie, A mun, A par, A pic, A sil, F swe
0
mar, nap, rom, tun, ven.
A mar, F nap, F tys, A ven, F wes
0
bud, mos, rum, sev, war.
A bud, A gal, A mos, F sev, A war
0
ank, bul, con, gre, smy.
F aeg, F bla, A bul, A gre, F smy
0
v2
7
1 1901
---T-----Ga--FAa---Ta--E-----------GEa-EFa-RaGaI-----Fa----Ia---R--Ta-Rs--A-----IaAa-Ra--
T-GFA-T-E--GEEFRGI-F-I--RT-R-A-IAR
0
0 0 0 0 0 0 0
0
Austria: A bud - ser
Austria: F tri - alb
Austria: A vie - gal (*Bounce*)
England: F edi - nwg
England: A lvp - yor
England: F lon - nth
France: F bre - eng
France: A mar - spa
France: A par - gas
Germany: A ber - kie
Germany: F kie - den
Germany: A mun - ruh
Italy: F nap - ion
Italy: A rom Hold
Italy: A ven Hold
Russia: A mos - ukr
Russia: F sev - bla (*Bounce*)
Russia: F stp(sc) - bot
Russia: A war - gal (*Bounce*)
Turkey: F ank - bla (*Bounce*)
Turkey: A con - bul
Turkey: A smy - con
3 1901
--AT----------Ta--TaG--F--Fa--R--I-Ga----------E-E-----IaGa-AaR---Fa--------RaIaAa-Ra-Ea
T-GFA-T-E--GEEFRGI-F-I--RT-R-A-IAR
0
0 0 0 0 0 0 0
0
Austria: F alb - gre
Austria: A ser Supports F alb - gre
Austria: A vie - tri
England: F nth - nwy
England: F nwg - bar
England: A yor - lon (*Bounce*)
France: F eng - lon (*Bounce*)
France: A gas - bre
France: A spa - por
Germany: F den - swe (*Bounce*)
Germany: A kie - hol
Germany: A ruh - bel
Italy: F ion - tun
Italy: A rom Hold
Italy: A ven Hold
Russia: F bot - swe (*Bounce*)
Russia: F sev Supports A ukr - rum
Russia: A ukr - rum
Russia: A war - gal
Turkey: F ank - bla
Turkey: A bul - gre (*Fails*)
Turkey: A con - bul (*Fails*)
5 1901
-------EGa-T-Fa-Ta--TaG--F-Ra-A-R-Ga--------------E----Fa-Ia-RaAaR-------AaI----Ia----Ea
TGGFATTGEAGGEEFRGIEFFIRART-R-AIIAR
10
2 1 1 3 1 1 1
0
Austria: Build A vie
Austria: Build A bud
England: Build waived
France: Build F mar
Germany: Build F kie
Germany: Build A ber
Germany: Build A mun
Italy: Build F nap
Russia: Build F stp(nc)
Turkey: Build F smy
1 1902
-------EGaGaT-FaAaTa--TaG--F-Ra-A-R-Ga--G---F--GaI---E----Fa-Ia-RaAaR--T-Rn--AaI----IaAa---Ea
TGGFATTGEAGGEEFRGIEFFIRART-R-AIIAR
0
0 1 0 0 0 0 0
0
Austria: A bud Hold
Austria: F gre Hold
Austria: A ser Hold
Austria: A tri Hold
Austria: A vie Hold
England: F bar - stp(nc) (*Fails*)
England: F nwy Supports F bar - stp(nc)
England: A yor - lon
France: A bre - wal
France: F eng Convoys A bre - wal
France: F mar - lyo
France: A por - spa
Germany: A bel - pic
Germany: A ber - mun
Germany: F den - swe
Germany: A hol - bel
Germany: F kie - bal
Germany: A mun - bur
Italy: F nap - tys
Italy: A rom - ven
Italy: F tun - wes
Italy: A ven - pie
Russia: A gal Supports A rum
Russia: F bot Supports F stp(nc)
Russia: A rum Hold
Russia: F sev Supports A rum
Russia: F stp(nc), no move received
Turkey: F bla Supports A bul
Turkey: A bul Hold
Turkey: A con Supports A bul
Turkey: F smy - aeg
3 1902
-T----GEGa-T--AaTaGa-Ta---F-Ra-AFR-------Ea---Ga----E--GaIa----RaAaR---FaRnG-Aa---I-IaAaFa-I-
TGGFATTGEAGGEEFRGIEFFIRART-R-AIIAR
0
0 1 0 0 0 0 0
0
Austria: A bud Supports A rum - bul (*Disbanded*)
Austria: F gre Supports A rum - bul (*Dislodged*)
Austria: A ser Supports A rum - bul (*Void*)
Austria: A tri Hold
Austria: A vie Hold
England: F bar - stp(nc)
England: A lon Hold
England: F nwy Supports F bar - stp(nc)
France: F eng - bre
France: F lyo - spa(sc) (*Bounce*)
France: A spa - gas (*Bounce*)
France: A wal - lvp
Germany: F bal - bot
Germany: A bel - pic
Germany: A bur - gas (*Bounce*)
Germany: A mun - sil
Germany: A pic - par
Germany: F swe Supports F bal - bot
Italy: A pie - mar
Italy: F tys - lyo (*Fails*)
Italy: A ven Hold
Italy: F wes - spa(sc) (*Bounce*)
Russia: A gal Supports A rum - bud
Russia: F bot Supports F stp(nc) (*Dislodged*)
Russia: A rum - bud
Russia: F sev Hold
Russia: F stp(nc) Hold (*Disbanded*)
Turkey: F aeg Supports A bul - gre
Turkey: F bla Supports A con - bul
Turkey: A bul - gre
Turkey: A con - bul
4 1902
-T--------T-FRaTaGa-------Ra-TaFG-----Fa-EaIa-------E-GaGa------AaRGa--FaEnG-Aa---I-IaAa--I-
TGGFATTGEAGGEEFRGIEFFIRART-R-AIIAR
0
1 1 0 0 0 1 0
2
Austrian F gre alb ion
Russian F bot lvn fin
Austria: disband F gre
Russia: disband F bot
5 1902
-T--------T-FRaTaGa-------Ra-TaFG-----Fa-EaIa-------E-GaGa------AaRGa--FaEnG-Aa---I-IaAa--I-
TGGFRTTGETGGFEIRGIEGFIRARTFEGAIIAR
7
0 1 0 2 1 2 1
0
England: Build A edi
Germany: Build F kie
Germany: Build A mun
Italy: Build F nap
Russia: Build A war
Russia: Build A mos
Turkey: Build F smy
-1
Austria: A Serbia, no move received
Austria: A Trieste, no move received
Austria: A Vienna, no move received
England: A Edinburgh, no move received
England: A London, no move received
England: F Norway, no move received
England: F St Petersburg(nc), no move received
France: F Brest, no move received
France: F Gulf of Lyon, no move received
France: A Liverpool, no move received
France: A Spain, no move received
Germany: A Burgundy, no move received
Germany: F Gulf of Bothnia, no move received
Germany: F Kiel, no move received
Germany: A Munich, no move received
Germany: A Paris, no move received
Germany: A Picardy, no move received
Germany: A Silesia, no move received
Germany: F Sweden, no move received
Italy: A Marseilles, no move received
Italy: F Naples, no move received
Italy: F Tyrrhenian Sea, no move received
Italy: A Venice, no move received
Italy: F Western Mediterranean, no move received
Russia: A Budapest, no move received
Russia: A Galicia, no move received
Russia: A Moscow, no move received
Russia: F Sevastopol, no move received
Russia: A Warsaw, no move received
Turkey: F Aegean Sea, no move received
Turkey: F Black Sea, no move received
Turkey: A Bulgaria, no move received
Turkey: A Greece, no move received
Turkey: F Smyrna, no move received

[Reply]

DC259 - Winter 1903 Reminder - blueinva   (Aug 07, 2009, 7:01 pm)
Winter 1903 (builds) Saturday 8 August 11:59pm DST (Eastern)
Spring 1904 Thursday 13 August 11:59pm DST (Eastern)

Tomorrow guys, tomorrow!

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Dc 225: End Game Proposal - AlanRFarrington   (Aug 07, 2009, 2:00 pm)
We have a proposal on the board.

A four way draw between England, Germany, Italy, and Turkey. [A DIAS]

Votes need to be submitted by the next deadline, a non-submitted vote will count as a "no vote", and the proposal must be unanimous to pass.

Thanks,
Alan Farrington


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Dc 225: Winter 1910 Adjudication - mistro   (Aug 07, 2009, 1:56 pm)
Alan, We (G,I,T Alliance) would like to propose a 4 way draw, E, G, I, T. Thanks. Michael (Italy)

On Fri, Aug 7, 2009 at 2:45 PM, Alan Farrington <alley_cat_1990(at)hotmail.com ([email]alley_cat_1990(at)hotmail.com[/email])> wrote:

Well I got the OK to adjudicate early from both players so I'm going to send it out.

Next Deadline:
Next deadline is due Tuesday, August 11 at Midnight GMT (7:00PM EST). 
If anyone has a problem please let me know as soon as possible.

Orders:
Austria:
Remove A Prussia

England:
Build A London

Turkey:
Build A Constantinople



Players:

Austria: Santiago Villamayor (svillamayor(at)mail.cl ([email]svillamayor(at)mail.cl[/email]))                        [Eliminated]
England: Mark Utterback (MDemagogue(at)gmail.com ([email]MDemagogue(at)gmail.com[/email]))
France: Anthony Stevens (AandTStevens(at)GMail.com)                 [Eliminated]
Germany: Jyri Syrja (jyjusy(at)hotmail.com ([email]jyjusy(at)hotmail.com[/email]))
Italy: Michael Stroz (mistro914(at)gmail.com ([email]mistro914(at)gmail.com[/email]))
Russia: Rachael Jameson (verticallychallangedcutie(at)yahoo.com ([email]verticallychallangedcutie(at)yahoo.com[/email]))    [Eliminated]
Turkey: Michael Holm (Zipholm(at)hotmail.com ([email]Zipholm(at)hotmail.com[/email]))


Ownership of Supply Centers:

England:   Belgium, Berlin, Brest, Denmark, Edinburgh, Holland,
           Kiel, Liverpool, London, Norway, Paris, Portugal,
           Spain, St Petersburg, Sweden.
Germany:   Budapest, Munich, Warsaw.
Italy:     Greece, Marseilles, Naples, Rome, Trieste, Tunis,
           Venice, Vienna.
Turkey:    Ankara, Bulgaria, Constantinople, Moscow, Rumania,
           Serbia, Sevastopol, Smyrna.


Thanks all,
Alan Farrington

Windows Live™: Keep your life in sync. Check it out.

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Dc 225: Winter 1910 Adjudication - AlanRFarrington   (Aug 07, 2009, 1:45 pm)
Well I got the OK to adjudicate early from both players so I'm going to send it out.

Next Deadline:
Next deadline is due Tuesday, August 11 at Midnight GMT (7:00PM EST).
If anyone has a problem please let me know as soon as possible.

Orders:
Austria:
Remove A Prussia

England:
Build A London

Turkey:
Build A Constantinople



Players:

Austria: Santiago Villamayor (svillamayor(at)mail.cl) [Eliminated]
England: Mark Utterback (MDemagogue(at)gmail.com)
France: Anthony Stevens (AandTStevens(at)GMail.com) [Eliminated]
Germany: Jyri Syrja (jyjusy(at)hotmail.com)
Italy: Michael Stroz (mistro914(at)gmail.com)
Russia: Rachael Jameson (verticallychallangedcutie(at)yahoo.com) [Eliminated]
Turkey: Michael Holm (Zipholm(at)hotmail.com)


Ownership of Supply Centers:

England: Belgium, Berlin, Brest, Denmark, Edinburgh, Holland,
Kiel, Liverpool, London, Norway, Paris, Portugal,
Spain, St Petersburg, Sweden.
Germany: Budapest, Munich, Warsaw.
Italy: Greece, Marseilles, Naples, Rome, Trieste, Tunis,
Venice, Vienna.
Turkey: Ankara, Bulgaria, Constantinople, Moscow, Rumania,
Serbia, Sevastopol, Smyrna.


Thanks all,
Alan Farrington
Windows Live™: Keep your life in sync. Check it out.

[Reply]

Dc 225: Winter 1910 Adjudication (dc225) mistro Aug 07, 01:56 pm
Alan, We (G,I,T Alliance) would like to propose a 4 way draw, E, G, I, T. Thanks. Michael (Italy)

On Fri, Aug 7, 2009 at 2:45 PM, Alan Farrington <alley_cat_1990(at)hotmail.com ([email]alley_cat_1990(at)hotmail.com[/email])> wrote:

Well I got the OK to adjudicate early from both players so I'm going to send it out.

Next Deadline:
Next deadline is due Tuesday, August 11 at Midnight GMT (7:00PM EST). 
If anyone has a problem please let me know as soon as possible.

Orders:
Austria:
Remove A Prussia

England:
Build A London

Turkey:
Build A Constantinople



Players:

Austria: Santiago Villamayor (svillamayor(at)mail.cl ([email]svillamayor(at)mail.cl[/email]))                        [Eliminated]
England: Mark Utterback (MDemagogue(at)gmail.com ([email]MDemagogue(at)gmail.com[/email]))
France: Anthony Stevens (AandTStevens(at)GMail.com)                 [Eliminated]
Germany: Jyri Syrja (jyjusy(at)hotmail.com ([email]jyjusy(at)hotmail.com[/email]))
Italy: Michael Stroz (mistro914(at)gmail.com ([email]mistro914(at)gmail.com[/email]))
Russia: Rachael Jameson (verticallychallangedcutie(at)yahoo.com ([email]verticallychallangedcutie(at)yahoo.com[/email]))    [Eliminated]
Turkey: Michael Holm (Zipholm(at)hotmail.com ([email]Zipholm(at)hotmail.com[/email]))


Ownership of Supply Centers:

England:   Belgium, Berlin, Brest, Denmark, Edinburgh, Holland,
           Kiel, Liverpool, London, Norway, Paris, Portugal,
           Spain, St Petersburg, Sweden.
Germany:   Budapest, Munich, Warsaw.
Italy:     Greece, Marseilles, Naples, Rome, Trieste, Tunis,
           Venice, Vienna.
Turkey:    Ankara, Bulgaria, Constantinople, Moscow, Rumania,
           Serbia, Sevastopol, Smyrna.


Thanks all,
Alan Farrington

Windows Live™: Keep your life in sync. Check it out.

DC261 - Fall 1903 Results - aramis604   (Aug 07, 2009, 12:58 pm)
The results are in! Sorry I didn't get these out last night but I ended up falling asleep on the couch.

No Retreats required.

********************
Austria:
A Bohemia Supports A Silesia - Munich
F Greece - Bulgaria(sc)
A Serbia Supports F Greece - Bulgaria(sc)
A Silesia - Munich (*Fails*)

England:
F Barents Sea Supports A Norway - St Petersburg
A Norway - St Petersburg (*Fails*)
F Wales - London
A Yorkshire - Norway (*Fails*)

France:
F English Channel - Belgium
A Gascony - Paris
F Mid-Atlantic Ocean - English Channel
F Picardy Supports F English Channel - Belgium
A Spain - Marseilles

Germany:
F Baltic Sea - Denmark
A Berlin Supports A Munich
A Burgundy - Belgium (*Fails*)
A Munich Hold
F North Sea - Norway (*Bounce*)
A Ruhr Supports A Munich
A Sweden Supports F North Sea - Norway

Italy:
F Aegean Sea - Constantinople (*Fails*)
F Ionian Sea - Greece
A Syria - Smyrna (*Fails*)
A Tyrolia Supports A Silesia - Munich

Russia:
F Rumania Supports F Greece - Bulgaria(sc)
A Sevastopol Supports F Rumania
F Skagerrak Supports F St Petersburg(nc) - Norway
F St Petersburg(nc) - Norway (*Bounce*)
A Warsaw Supports A Silesia (*Ordered to Move*)

Turkey:
F Black Sea Supports A Bulgaria
A Bulgaria, no move received (*Disbanded*)
F Constantinople Supports A Bulgaria (*Cut*)
A Smyrna Hold

*******************
Adjustments:
Austria: Supp 5 Unit 4 Build 1
England: Supp 4 Unit 4 Build 0
France: Supp 6 Unit 5 Build 1
Germany: Supp 6 Unit 7 Remove 1
Italy: Supp 5 Unit 4 Build 1
Russia: Supp 5 Unit 5 Build 0
Turkey: Supp 3 Unit 3 Build 0

Winter 1903 is due Tuesday, August 11th by 9pm Pacific Time.

- Josh

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DC261 - Fall 1903 Results (dc261) benjamin.hester at us.... Aug 07, 09:09 pm
As much as I hate to confess this, isn't Russian F Rum S F Gre - Bul SC an invalid support, and therefore Turkey's unit in Bulgaria survives? Unless you're adjudicating that it is dislodged because the unit in Bulgaria was an NMR?

B.

Benjamin T. Hester
CPT, QM
300th Sustainment Brigade
SPO Plans Supply and Services


From: Josh E. [aramis604(at)yahoo.com]
Sent: Friday, August 07, 2009 12:58
To: dc261(at)diplomaticcorp.com; Hester, Benjamin T CPT RES USAR USARC; Ben Leapman; Mark Duffield; Benjamin Hester; Ben Leapman; Jim Rossiter; Jorge Saralegui; Eric Shum; David Zilkha
Cc: Mike Sims
Subject: DC261 - Fall 1903 Results



The results are in! Sorry I didn't get these out last night but I ended up falling asleep on the couch.

No Retreats required.

********************
Austria:
A Bohemia Supports A Silesia - Munich
F Greece - Bulgaria(sc)
A Serbia Supports F Greece - Bulgaria(sc)
A Silesia - Munich (*Fails*)

England:
F Barents Sea Supports A Norway - St Petersburg
A Norway - St Petersburg (*Fails*)
F Wales - London
A Yorkshire - Norway (*Fails*)

France:
F English Channel - Belgium
A Gascony - Paris
F Mid-Atlantic Ocean - English Channel
F Picardy Supports F English Channel - Belgium
A Spain - Marseilles

Germany:
F Baltic Sea - Denmark
A Berlin Supports A Munich
A Burgundy - Belgium (*Fails*)
A Munich Hold
F North Sea - Norway (*Bounce*)
A Ruhr Supports A Munich
A Sweden Supports F North Sea - Norway

Italy:
F Aegean Sea - Constantinople (*Fails*)
F Ionian Sea - Greece
A Syria - Smyrna (*Fails*)
A Tyrolia Supports A Silesia - Munich

Russia:
F Rumania Supports F Greece - Bulgaria(sc)
A Sevastopol Supports F Rumania
F Skagerrak Supports F St Petersburg(nc) - Norway
F St Petersburg(nc) - Norway (*Bounce*)
A Warsaw Supports A Silesia (*Ordered to Move*)

Turkey:
F Black Sea Supports A Bulgaria
A Bulgaria, no move received (*Disbanded*)
F Constantinople Supports A Bulgaria (*Cut*)
A Smyrna Hold

*******************
Adjustments:
Austria: Supp 5 Unit 4 Build 1
England: Supp 4 Unit 4 Build 0
France: Supp 6 Unit 5 Build 1
Germany: Supp 6 Unit 7 Remove 1
Italy: Supp 5 Unit 4 Build 1
Russia: Supp 5 Unit 5 Build 0
Turkey: Supp 3 Unit 3 Build 0

Winter 1903 is due Tuesday, August 11th by 9pm Pacific Time.

- Josh
DC261 - Fall 1903 Results (dc261) aramis604 Aug 07, 11:22 pm
There is a correction that needs to be made on the Fall 1903 orders.

The support order given from the Russian fleet in Romania to the Austrian fleet in Greece was invalid. The result of which is that Bulgaria was not dislodged and subsequently disbanded, Greece failed to move, and the Fleet coming from the Ionian Sea bounced in Greece.

This does impact the adjustments phase also... below are the required adjustments. I am going to keep the current deadline, but anyone needs more time I will grant one 24 hour extension if requested.

Adjustments:

Austria: Supp 5 Unit 4 Build 1
England: Supp 4 Unit 4 Build 0
France: Supp 6 Unit 5 Build 1
Germany: Supp 6 Unit 7 Remove 1
Italy: Supp 4 Unit 4 Build 0
Russia: Supp 5 Unit 5 Build 0
Turkey: Supp 4 Unit 4 Build 0



From: Josh E. <aramis604(at)yahoo.com>
To: dc261(at)diplomaticcorp.com; Benjamin Hester <benjamin.hester(at)us.army.mil>; Ben Leapman <ben.leapman(at)telegraph.co.uk>; Mark Duffield <captain_sicarius(at)hotmail.com>; Benjamin Hester <screwtape777(at)gmail.com>; Ben Leapman <ben.leapman(at)ntlworld.com>; Jim Rossiter <jarossiter(at)tampabay.rr.com>; Jorge Saralegui <jmsaralegui(at)gmail.com>; Eric Shum <ecommander0(at)hotmail.com>; David Zilkha <davidzil(at)lycos.com>
Cc: Mike Sims <mike(at)fuzzylogicllc.net>
Sent: Friday, August 7, 2009 10:58:05 AM
Subject: DC261 - Fall 1903 Results

The results are in! Sorry I didn't get these out last night but I ended up falling asleep on the couch.

No Retreats required.

********************
Austria:
A Bohemia Supports A Silesia - Munich
F Greece - Bulgaria(sc)
A Serbia Supports F Greece - Bulgaria(sc)
A Silesia - Munich (*Fails*)

England:
F Barents Sea Supports A Norway - St Petersburg
A Norway - St Petersburg (*Fails*)
F Wales - London
A Yorkshire - Norway (*Fails*)

France:
F English Channel - Belgium
A Gascony - Paris
F Mid-Atlantic Ocean - English Channel
F Picardy Supports F English Channel - Belgium
A Spain - Marseilles

Germany:
F Baltic Sea - Denmark
A Berlin Supports A Munich
A Burgundy - Belgium (*Fails*)
A Munich Hold
F North Sea - Norway (*Bounce*)
A Ruhr Supports A Munich
A Sweden Supports F North Sea - Norway

Italy:
F Aegean Sea - Constantinople (*Fails*)
F Ionian Sea - Greece
A Syria - Smyrna (*Fails*)
A Tyrolia Supports A Silesia - Munich

Russia:
F Rumania Supports F Greece - Bulgaria(sc)
A Sevastopol Supports F Rumania
F Skagerrak Supports F St Petersburg(nc) - Norway
F St Petersburg(nc) - Norway (*Bounce*)
A Warsaw Supports A Silesia (*Ordered to Move*)

Turkey:
F Black Sea Supports A Bulgaria
A Bulgaria, no move received (*Disbanded*)
F Constantinople Supports A Bulgaria (*Cut*)
A Smyrna Hold

*******************
Adjustments:
Austria: Supp 5 Unit 4 Build 1
England: Supp 4 Unit 4 Build 0
France: Supp 6 Unit 5 Build 1
Germany: Supp 6 Unit 7 Remove 1
Italy: Supp 5 Unit 4 Build 1
Russia: Supp 5 Unit 5 Build 0
Turkey: Supp 3 Unit 3 Build 0

Winter 1903 is due Tuesday, August 11th by 9pm Pacific Time.

- Josh
DC261 - Fall 1903 Results (dc261) aramis604 Aug 08, 12:18 am
I have received a number of questions regarding the revision for Fall 1903 wondering why the initial order was invalid. I have reviewed the relevant rules from the Diplomacy rule book and my interpretation leads me to believe that the support order given was invalid. However the rules are not as succinct and I would like them to be so I am going to seek an outside opinion on this matter. For the moment please consider DC261 paused while I converse with other GMs to clear this issue up.

- Josh



From: Josh E. <aramis604(at)yahoo.com>
To: dc261(at)diplomaticcorp.com; Benjamin Hester <benjamin.hester(at)us.army.mil>; Ben Leapman <ben.leapman(at)telegraph.co.uk>; Mark Duffield <captain_sicarius(at)hotmail.com>; Benjamin Hester <screwtape777(at)gmail.com>; Ben Leapman <ben.leapman(at)ntlworld.com>; Jim Rossiter <jarossiter(at)tampabay.rr.com>; Jorge Saralegui <jmsaralegui(at)gmail.com>; Eric Shum <ecommander0(at)hotmail.com>; David Zilkha <davidzil(at)lycos.com>
Cc: Mike Sims <mike(at)fuzzylogicllc.net>
Sent: Friday, August 7, 2009 9:21:52 PM
Subject: Re: DC261 - Fall 1903 Results

There is a correction that needs to be made on the Fall 1903 orders.

The support order given from the Russian fleet in Romania to the Austrian fleet in Greece was invalid. The result of which is that Bulgaria was not dislodged and subsequently disbanded, Greece failed to move, and the Fleet coming from the Ionian Sea bounced in Greece.

This does impact the adjustments phase also... below are the required adjustments. I am going to keep the current deadline, but anyone needs more time I will grant one 24 hour extension if requested.

Adjustments:

Austria: Supp 5 Unit 4 Build 1
England: Supp 4 Unit 4 Build 0
France: Supp 6 Unit 5 Build 1
Germany: Supp 6 Unit 7 Remove 1
Italy: Supp 4 Unit 4 Build 0
Russia: Supp 5 Unit 5 Build 0
Turkey: Supp 4 Unit 4 Build 0



From: Josh E. <aramis604(at)yahoo.com>
To: dc261(at)diplomaticcorp.com; Benjamin Hester <benjamin.hester(at)us.army.mil>; Ben Leapman <ben.leapman(at)telegraph.co.uk>; Mark Duffield <captain_sicarius(at)hotmail.com>; Benjamin Hester <screwtape777(at)gmail.com>; Ben Leapman <ben.leapman(at)ntlworld.com>; Jim Rossiter <jarossiter(at)tampabay.rr.com>; Jorge Saralegui <jmsaralegui(at)gmail.com>; Eric Shum <ecommander0(at)hotmail.com>; David Zilkha <davidzil(at)lycos.com>
Cc: Mike Sims <mike(at)fuzzylogicllc.net>
Sent: Friday, August 7, 2009 10:58:05 AM
Subject: DC261 - Fall 1903 Results

The results are in! Sorry I didn't get these out last night but I ended up falling asleep on the couch.

No Retreats required.

********************
Austria:
A Bohemia Supports A Silesia - Munich
F Greece - Bulgaria(sc)
A Serbia Supports F Greece - Bulgaria(sc)
A Silesia - Munich (*Fails*)

England:
F Barents Sea Supports A Norway - St Petersburg
A Norway - St Petersburg (*Fails*)
F Wales - London
A Yorkshire - Norway (*Fails*)

France:
F English Channel - Belgium
A Gascony - Paris
F Mid-Atlantic Ocean - English Channel
F Picardy Supports F English Channel - Belgium
A Spain - Marseilles

Germany:
F Baltic Sea - Denmark
A Berlin Supports A Munich
A Burgundy - Belgium (*Fails*)
A Munich Hold
F North Sea - Norway (*Bounce*)
A Ruhr Supports A Munich
A Sweden Supports F North Sea - Norway

Italy:
F Aegean Sea - Constantinople (*Fails*)
F Ionian Sea - Greece
A Syria - Smyrna (*Fails*)
A Tyrolia Supports A Silesia - Munich

Russia:
F Rumania Supports F Greece - Bulgaria(sc)
A Sevastopol Supports F Rumania
F Skagerrak Supports F St Petersburg(nc) - Norway
F St Petersburg(nc) - Norway (*Bounce*)
A Warsaw Supports A Silesia (*Ordered to Move*)

Turkey:
F Black Sea Supports A Bulgaria
A Bulgaria, no move received (*Disbanded*)
F Constantinople Supports A Bulgaria (*Cut*)
A Smyrna Hold

*******************
Adjustments:
Austria: Supp 5 Unit 4 Build 1
England: Supp 4 Unit 4 Build 0
France: Supp 6 Unit 5 Build 1
Germany: Supp 6 Unit 7 Remove 1
Italy: Supp 5 Unit 4 Build 1
Russia: Supp 5 Unit 5 Build 0
Turkey: Supp 3 Unit 3 Build 0

Winter 1903 is due Tuesday, August 11th by 9pm Pacific Time.

- Josh
DC261 - Fall 1903 Results (dc261) txurce Aug 08, 06:01 am
I assume the issue is whether Russia's support is valid because his fleet is on the "wrong" coast.  The answer is Yes: the rules restrict movement, but say nothing about restricting support; therefore, the basic "unrestricted" rule applies.  This is not an ambiguity.  According to the rules, a fleet occupies the entire province  - not just one coast.  As a result, support against it can come from anywhere adjacent.
Here Is Play Diplomacy Online on the same issue:


"3 provinces on the board generate common questions regarding supports with fleets, St Petersburg (STP), Spain (SPA), and Bulgaria (BUL). Those provinces have coasts, STP nc and STP sc, SPA nc and SPA sc, and BUL ec and BUL sc, with nc and sc and ec standing for North, South or East coasts respectivly. If your fleet unit can reach any coast of that province (1, or the other, or both), it can both SUPPORT a MOVE into the province in its entirety, and SUPPORT a unit in that province to HOLD against another unit's order to MOVE there. SUPPORT into a province, either to HOLD there or to MOVE there are not specific to a Coast. This means my fleet in Barents Sea, near STP nc, can support the MOVE of a fleet in Livonia into STP sc (the only coast it can reach), and the order is valid. Please note, this can be confusing to new players."


http://www.playdiplomacy.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=13&t=4269


Jorge

On Sat, Aug 8, 2009 at 1:17 AM, Josh E. <aramis604(at)yahoo.com ([email]aramis604(at)yahoo.com[/email])> wrote:

I have received a number of questions regarding the revision for Fall 1903 wondering why the initial order was invalid. I have reviewed the relevant rules from the Diplomacy rule book and my interpretation leads me to believe that the support order given was invalid. However the rules are not as succinct and I would like them to be so I am going to seek an outside opinion on this matter. For the moment please consider DC261 paused while I converse with other GMs to clear this issue up.

- Josh



From: Josh E. <aramis604(at)yahoo.com ([email]aramis604(at)yahoo.com[/email])>
To: dc261(at)diplomaticcorp.com ([email]dc261(at)diplomaticcorp.com[/email]); Benjamin Hester <benjamin.hester(at)us.army.mil ([email]benjamin.hester(at)us.army.mil[/email])>; Ben Leapman <ben.leapman(at)telegraph.co.uk ([email]ben.leapman(at)telegraph.co.uk[/email])>; Mark Duffield <captain_sicarius(at)hotmail.com ([email]captain_sicarius(at)hotmail.com[/email])>; Benjamin Hester <screwtape777(at)gmail.com ([email]screwtape777(at)gmail.com[/email])>; Ben Leapman <ben.leapman(at)ntlworld.com ([email]ben.leapman(at)ntlworld.com[/email])>; Jim Rossiter <jarossiter(at)tampabay.rr.com ([email]jarossiter(at)tampabay.rr.com[/email])>; Jorge Saralegui <jmsaralegui(at)gmail.com ([email]jmsaralegui(at)gmail.com[/email])>; Eric Shum <ecommander0(at)hotmail.com ([email]ecommander0(at)hotmail.com[/email])>; David Zilkha <davidzil(at)lycos.com ([email]davidzil(at)lycos.com[/email])>
Cc: Mike Sims <mike(at)fuzzylogicllc.net ([email]mike(at)fuzzylogicllc.net[/email])>

Sent: Friday, August 7, 2009 9:21:52 PM
Subject: Re: DC261 - Fall 1903 Results


There is a correction that needs to be made on the Fall 1903 orders.

The support order given from the Russian fleet in Romania to the Austrian fleet in Greece was invalid. The result of which is that Bulgaria was not dislodged and subsequently disbanded, Greece failed to move, and the Fleet coming from the Ionian Sea bounced in Greece.

This does impact the adjustments phase also... below are the required adjustments. I am going to keep the current deadline, but anyone needs more time I will grant one 24 hour extension if requested.

Adjustments:

Austria:   Supp  5 Unit  4 Build  1
England:   Supp  4 Unit  4 Build  0
France:    Supp  6 Unit  5 Build  1
Germany:   Supp  6 Unit  7 Remove  1
Italy:     Supp  4 Unit  4 Build  0
Russia:    Supp  5 Unit  5 Build  0
Turkey:    Supp  4 Unit  4 Build  0



From: Josh E. <aramis604(at)yahoo.com ([email]aramis604(at)yahoo.com[/email])>
To: dc261(at)diplomaticcorp.com ([email]dc261(at)diplomaticcorp.com[/email]); Benjamin Hester <benjamin.hester(at)us.army.mil ([email]benjamin.hester(at)us.army.mil[/email])>; Ben Leapman <ben.leapman(at)telegraph.co.uk ([email]ben.leapman(at)telegraph.co.uk[/email])>; Mark Duffield <captain_sicarius(at)hotmail.com ([email]captain_sicarius(at)hotmail.com[/email])>; Benjamin Hester <screwtape777(at)gmail.com ([email]screwtape777(at)gmail.com[/email])>; Ben Leapman <ben.leapman(at)ntlworld.com ([email]ben.leapman(at)ntlworld.com[/email])>; Jim Rossiter <jarossiter(at)tampabay.rr.com ([email]jarossiter(at)tampabay.rr.com[/email])>; Jorge Saralegui <jmsaralegui(at)gmail.com ([email]jmsaralegui(at)gmail.com[/email])>; Eric Shum <ecommander0(at)hotmail.com ([email]ecommander0(at)hotmail.com[/email])>; David Zilkha <davidzil(at)lycos.com ([email]davidzil(at)lycos.com[/email])>
Cc: Mike Sims <mike(at)fuzzylogicllc.net ([email]mike(at)fuzzylogicllc.net[/email])>
Sent: Friday, August 7, 2009 10:58:05 AM
Subject: DC261 - Fall 1903 Results

The results are in! Sorry I didn't get these out last night but I ended up falling asleep on the couch.

No Retreats required.

********************
Austria:
A Bohemia Supports A Silesia - Munich
F Greece - Bulgaria(sc)
A Serbia Supports F Greece - Bulgaria(sc)
A Silesia - Munich (*Fails*)

England:
F Barents Sea Supports A Norway - St Petersburg
A Norway - St Petersburg (*Fails*)
F Wales - London
A Yorkshire - Norway (*Fails*)

France:
F English Channel - Belgium
A Gascony - Paris
F Mid-Atlantic Ocean - English Channel
F Picardy Supports F English Channel - Belgium
A Spain - Marseilles

Germany:
F Baltic Sea - Denmark
A Berlin Supports A Munich
A Burgundy - Belgium (*Fails*)
A Munich Hold
F North Sea - Norway (*Bounce*)
A Ruhr Supports A Munich
A Sweden Supports F North Sea - Norway

Italy:
F Aegean Sea - Constantinople (*Fails*)
F Ionian Sea - Greece
A Syria - Smyrna (*Fails*)
A Tyrolia Supports A Silesia - Munich

Russia:
F Rumania Supports F Greece - Bulgaria(sc)
A Sevastopol Supports F Rumania
F Skagerrak Supports F St Petersburg(nc) - Norway
F St Petersburg(nc) - Norway (*Bounce*)
A Warsaw Supports A Silesia (*Ordered to Move*)

Turkey:
F Black Sea Supports A Bulgaria
A Bulgaria, no move received (*Disbanded*)
F Constantinople Supports A Bulgaria (*Cut*)
A Smyrna Hold

*******************
Adjustments:
Austria:   Supp  5 Unit  4 Build  1
England:   Supp  4 Unit  4 Build  0
France:    Supp  6 Unit  5 Build  1
Germany:   Supp  6 Unit  7 Remove  1
Italy:     Supp  5 Unit  4 Build  1
Russia:    Supp  5 Unit  5 Build  0
Turkey:    Supp  3 Unit  3 Build  0

Winter 1903 is due Tuesday, August 11th by 9pm Pacific Time.

- Josh











DC261 - Fall 1903 Results (dc261) JimR Aug 08, 06:19 am
Here is some supporting data for Jorge’s link,

http://www.diplom.org/~diparch/resources/rulebooks/2000AH4th.pdf

Page 7 – “How to Support” paragraph 2:

A Fleet that can move to a province with two separate coasts (a Fleet in the Mid-Atlantic, for example) can support another Army or Fleet into that province(in this case Spain) without regard to separate coastlines.

Jim R.

From: Jorge Saralegui [mailto:jmsaralegui(at)gmail.com]
Sent: Saturday, August 08, 2009 7:01 AM
To: Josh E.
Cc: dc261(at)diplomaticcorp.com; Ben Leapman; Benjamin Hester; Mark Duffield; Benjamin Hester; Ben Leapman; Jim Rossiter; Eric Shum; David Zilkha; Mike Sims
Subject: Re: DC261 - Fall 1903 Results


I assume the issue is whether Russia's support is valid because his fleet is on the "wrong" coast. The answer is Yes: the rules restrict movement, but say nothing about restricting support; therefore, the basic "unrestricted" rule applies. This is not an ambiguity. According to the rules, a fleet occupies the entire province - not just one coast. As a result, support against it can come from anywhere adjacent.

Here Is Play Diplomacy Online on the same issue:



"3 provinces on the board generate common questions regarding supports with fleets, St Petersburg (STP), Spain (SPA), and Bulgaria (BUL). Those provinces have coasts, STP nc and STP sc, SPA nc and SPA sc, and BUL ec and BUL sc, with nc and sc and ec standing for North, South or East coasts respectivly. If your fleet unit can reach any coast of that province (1, or the other, or both), it can both SUPPORT a MOVE into the province in its entirety, and SUPPORT a unit in that province to HOLD against another unit's order to MOVE there. SUPPORT into a province, either to HOLD there or to MOVE there are not specific to a Coast. This means my fleet in Barents Sea, near STP nc, can support the MOVE of a fleet in Livonia into STP sc (the only coast it can reach), and the order is valid. Please note, this can be confusing to new players."



http://www.playdiplomacy.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=13&t=4269



Jorge


On Sat, Aug 8, 2009 at 1:17 AM, Josh E. <aramis604(at)yahoo.com ([email]aramis604(at)yahoo.com[/email])> wrote:
I have received a number of questions regarding the revision for Fall 1903 wondering why the initial order was invalid. I have reviewed the relevant rules from the Diplomacy rule book and my interpretation leads me to believe that the support order given was invalid. However the rules are not as succinct and I would like them to be so I am going to seek an outside opinion on this matter. For the moment please consider DC261 paused while I converse with other GMs to clear this issue up.

- Josh




From: Josh E. <aramis604(at)yahoo.com ([email]aramis604(at)yahoo.com[/email])>
To: dc261(at)diplomaticcorp.com ([email]dc261(at)diplomaticcorp.com[/email]); Benjamin Hester <benjamin.hester(at)us.army.mil ([email]benjamin.hester(at)us.army.mil[/email])>; Ben Leapman <ben.leapman(at)telegraph.co.uk ([email]ben.leapman(at)telegraph.co.uk[/email])>; Mark Duffield <captain_sicarius(at)hotmail.com ([email]captain_sicarius(at)hotmail.com[/email])>; Benjamin Hester <screwtape777(at)gmail.com ([email]screwtape777(at)gmail.com[/email])>; Ben Leapman <ben.leapman(at)ntlworld.com ([email]ben.leapman(at)ntlworld.com[/email])>; Jim Rossiter <jarossiter(at)tampabay.rr.com ([email]jarossiter(at)tampabay.rr.com[/email])>; Jorge Saralegui <jmsaralegui(at)gmail.com ([email]jmsaralegui(at)gmail.com[/email])>; Eric Shum <ecommander0(at)hotmail.com ([email]ecommander0(at)hotmail.com[/email])>; David Zilkha <davidzil(at)lycos.com ([email]davidzil(at)lycos.com[/email])>
Cc: Mike Sims <mike(at)fuzzylogicllc.net ([email]mike(at)fuzzylogicllc.net[/email])>

Sent: Friday, August 7, 2009 9:21:52 PM
Subject: Re: DC261 - Fall 1903 Results

There is a correction that needs to be made on the Fall 1903 orders.

The support order given from the Russian fleet in Romania to the Austrian fleet in Greece was invalid. The result of which is that Bulgaria was not dislodged and subsequently disbanded, Greece failed to move, and the Fleet coming from the Ionian Sea bounced in Greece.

This does impact the adjustments phase also... below are the required adjustments. I am going to keep the current deadline, but anyone needs more time I will grant one 24 hour extension if requested.

Adjustments:

Austria: Supp 5 Unit 4 Build 1
England: Supp 4 Unit 4 Build 0
France: Supp 6 Unit 5 Build 1
Germany: Supp 6 Unit 7 Remove 1
Italy: Supp 4 Unit 4 Build 0
Russia: Supp 5 Unit 5 Build 0
Turkey: Supp 4 Unit 4 Build 0



From: Josh E. <aramis604(at)yahoo.com ([email]aramis604(at)yahoo.com[/email])>
To: dc261(at)diplomaticcorp.com ([email]dc261(at)diplomaticcorp.com[/email]); Benjamin Hester <benjamin.hester(at)us.army.mil ([email]benjamin.hester(at)us.army.mil[/email])>; Ben Leapman <ben.leapman(at)telegraph.co.uk ([email]ben.leapman(at)telegraph.co.uk[/email])>; Mark Duffield <captain_sicarius(at)hotmail.com ([email]captain_sicarius(at)hotmail.com[/email])>; Benjamin Hester <screwtape777(at)gmail.com ([email]screwtape777(at)gmail.com[/email])>; Ben Leapman <ben.leapman(at)ntlworld.com ([email]ben.leapman(at)ntlworld.com[/email])>; Jim Rossiter <jarossiter(at)tampabay.rr.com ([email]jarossiter(at)tampabay.rr.com[/email])>; Jorge Saralegui <jmsaralegui(at)gmail.com ([email]jmsaralegui(at)gmail.com[/email])>; Eric Shum <ecommander0(at)hotmail.com ([email]ecommander0(at)hotmail.com[/email])>; David Zilkha <davidzil(at)lycos.com ([email]davidzil(at)lycos.com[/email])>
Cc: Mike Sims <mike(at)fuzzylogicllc.net ([email]mike(at)fuzzylogicllc.net[/email])>
Sent: Friday, August 7, 2009 10:58:05 AM
Subject: DC261 - Fall 1903 Results
The results are in! Sorry I didn't get these out last night but I ended up falling asleep on the couch.

No Retreats required.

********************
Austria:
A Bohemia Supports A Silesia - Munich
F Greece - Bulgaria(sc)
A Serbia Supports F Greece - Bulgaria(sc)
A Silesia - Munich (*Fails*)

England:
F Barents Sea Supports A Norway - St Petersburg
A Norway - St Petersburg (*Fails*)
F Wales - London
A Yorkshire - Norway (*Fails*)

France:
F English Channel - Belgium
A Gascony - Paris
F Mid-Atlantic Ocean - English Channel
F Picardy Supports F English Channel - Belgium
A Spain - Marseilles

Germany:
F Baltic Sea - Denmark
A Berlin Supports A Munich
A Burgundy - Belgium (*Fails*)
A Munich Hold
F North Sea - Norway (*Bounce*)
A Ruhr Supports A Munich
A Sweden Supports F North Sea - Norway

Italy:
F Aegean Sea - Constantinople (*Fails*)
F Ionian Sea - Greece
A Syria - Smyrna (*Fails*)
A Tyrolia Supports A Silesia - Munich

Russia:
F Rumania Supports F Greece - Bulgaria(sc)
A Sevastopol Supports F Rumania
F Skagerrak Supports F St Petersburg(nc) - Norway
F St Petersburg(nc) - Norway (*Bounce*)
A Warsaw Supports A Silesia (*Ordered to Move*)

Turkey:
F Black Sea Supports A Bulgaria
A Bulgaria, no move received (*Disbanded*)
F Constantinople Supports A Bulgaria (*Cut*)
A Smyrna Hold

*******************
Adjustments:
Austria: Supp 5 Unit 4 Build 1
England: Supp 4 Unit 4 Build 0
France: Supp 6 Unit 5 Build 1
Germany: Supp 6 Unit 7 Remove 1
Italy: Supp 5 Unit 4 Build 1
Russia: Supp 5 Unit 5 Build 0
Turkey: Supp 3 Unit 3 Build 0

Winter 1903 is due Tuesday, August 11th by 9pm Pacific Time.

- Josh
DC261 - Fall 1903 Results (dc261) aramis604 Aug 08, 02:07 pm
It seems that I was mistaken in my interpretation of how a fleet can support another unit moving into a multi-coast province.

The effect of this is that the ordered support from RUM is valid. So the first results email was accurate. If there is any further confusion please let me know and I will explain in greater detail why the order is valid.

Adjustments:
Austria: Supp 5 Unit 4 Build 1
England: Supp 4 Unit 4 Build 0
France: Supp 6 Unit 5 Build 1
Germany: Supp 6 Unit 7 Remove 1
Italy: Supp 5 Unit 4 Build 1
Russia: Supp 5 Unit 5 Build 0
Turkey: Supp 3 Unit 3 Build 0

We will keep the same deadline of Tuesday, August 11th by 9pm Pacific Time.

- Josh



From: Josh E. <aramis604(at)yahoo.com>
To: dc261(at)diplomaticcorp.com; Ben Leapman <ben.leapman(at)telegraph.co.uk>; Benjamin Hester <benjamin.hester(at)us.army.mil>; Mark Duffield <captain_sicarius(at)hotmail.com>; Benjamin Hester <screwtape777(at)gmail.com>; Ben Leapman <ben.leapman(at)ntlworld.com>; Jim Rossiter <jarossiter(at)tampabay.rr.com>; Jorge Saralegui <jmsaralegui(at)gmail.com>; Eric Shum <ecommander0(at)hotmail.com>; David Zilkha <davidzil(at)lycos.com>
Cc: Mike Sims <mike(at)fuzzylogicllc.net>
Sent: Friday, August 7, 2009 10:17:53 PM
Subject: Re: DC261 - Fall 1903 Results

I have received a number of questions regarding the revision for Fall 1903 wondering why the initial order was invalid. I have reviewed the relevant rules from the Diplomacy rule book and my interpretation leads me to believe that the support order given was invalid. However the rules are not as succinct and I would like them to be so I am going to seek an outside opinion on this matter. For the moment please consider DC261 paused while I converse with other GMs to clear this issue up.

- Josh



From: Josh E. <aramis604(at)yahoo.com>
To: dc261(at)diplomaticcorp.com; Benjamin Hester <benjamin.hester(at)us.army.mil>; Ben Leapman <ben.leapman(at)telegraph.co.uk>; Mark Duffield <captain_sicarius(at)hotmail.com>; Benjamin Hester <screwtape777(at)gmail.com>; Ben Leapman <ben.leapman(at)ntlworld.com>; Jim Rossiter <jarossiter(at)tampabay.rr.com>; Jorge Saralegui <jmsaralegui(at)gmail.com>; Eric Shum <ecommander0(at)hotmail.com>; David Zilkha <davidzil(at)lycos.com>
Cc: Mike Sims <mike(at)fuzzylogicllc.net>
Sent: Friday, August 7, 2009 9:21:52 PM
Subject: Re: DC261 - Fall 1903 Results

There is a correction that needs to be made on the Fall 1903 orders.

The support order given from the Russian fleet in Romania to the Austrian fleet in Greece was invalid. The result of which is that Bulgaria was not dislodged and subsequently disbanded, Greece failed to move, and the Fleet coming from the Ionian Sea bounced in Greece.

This does impact the adjustments phase also... below are the required adjustments. I am going to keep the current deadline, but anyone needs more time I will grant one 24 hour extension if requested.

Adjustments:

Austria: Supp 5 Unit 4 Build 1
England: Supp 4 Unit 4 Build 0
France: Supp 6 Unit 5 Build 1
Germany: Supp 6 Unit 7 Remove 1
Italy: Supp 4 Unit 4 Build 0
Russia: Supp 5 Unit 5 Build 0
Turkey: Supp 4 Unit 4 Build 0



From: Josh E. <aramis604(at)yahoo.com>
To: dc261(at)diplomaticcorp.com; Benjamin Hester <benjamin.hester(at)us.army.mil>; Ben Leapman <ben.leapman(at)telegraph.co.uk>; Mark Duffield <captain_sicarius(at)hotmail.com>; Benjamin Hester <screwtape777(at)gmail.com>; Ben Leapman <ben.leapman(at)ntlworld.com>; Jim Rossiter <jarossiter(at)tampabay.rr.com>; Jorge Saralegui <jmsaralegui(at)gmail.com>; Eric Shum <ecommander0(at)hotmail.com>; David Zilkha <davidzil(at)lycos.com>
Cc: Mike Sims <mike(at)fuzzylogicllc.net>
Sent: Friday, August 7, 2009 10:58:05 AM
Subject: DC261 - Fall 1903 Results

The results are in! Sorry I didn't get these out last night but I ended up falling asleep on the couch.

No Retreats required.

********************
Austria:
A Bohemia Supports A Silesia - Munich
F Greece - Bulgaria(sc)
A Serbia Supports F Greece - Bulgaria(sc)
A Silesia - Munich (*Fails*)

England:
F Barents Sea Supports A Norway - St Petersburg
A Norway - St Petersburg (*Fails*)
F Wales - London
A Yorkshire - Norway (*Fails*)

France:
F English Channel - Belgium
A Gascony - Paris
F Mid-Atlantic Ocean - English Channel
F Picardy Supports F English Channel - Belgium
A Spain - Marseilles

Germany:
F Baltic Sea - Denmark
A Berlin Supports A Munich
A Burgundy - Belgium (*Fails*)
A Munich Hold
F North Sea - Norway (*Bounce*)
A Ruhr Supports A Munich
A Sweden Supports F North Sea - Norway

Italy:
F Aegean Sea - Constantinople (*Fails*)
F Ionian Sea - Greece
A Syria - Smyrna (*Fails*)
A Tyrolia Supports A Silesia - Munich

Russia:
F Rumania Supports F Greece - Bulgaria(sc)
A Sevastopol Supports F Rumania
F Skagerrak Supports F St Petersburg(nc) - Norway
F St Petersburg(nc) - Norway (*Bounce*)
A Warsaw Supports A Silesia (*Ordered to Move*)

Turkey:
F Black Sea Supports A Bulgaria
A Bulgaria, no move received (*Disbanded*)
F Constantinople Supports A Bulgaria (*Cut*)
A Smyrna Hold

*******************
Adjustments:
Austria: Supp 5 Unit 4 Build 1
England: Supp 4 Unit 4 Build 0
France: Supp 6 Unit 5 Build 1
Germany: Supp 6 Unit 7 Remove 1
Italy: Supp 5 Unit 4 Build 1
Russia: Supp 5 Unit 5 Build 0
Turkey: Supp 3 Unit 3 Build 0

Winter 1903 is due Tuesday, August 11th by 9pm Pacific Time.

- Josh
DC253 S06 USSR ICE-LOCKED - Sags   (Aug 07, 2009, 11:25 am)
Hi All

Sorry for the NMR, I'm away on holiday and no internet at the house.

Anyway, I'm in for next turn.

Nick


-----Original Message-----
From: MICHAEL BOUTOT [mailto:vegas_iwish(at)yahoo.com]
Sent: 30 July 2009 06:32
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josepayne(at)gmail.com; Blueraider0(at)gmail.com; psychosis(at)sky.com;
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Cc: DC253(at)DIPLOMATICCORP.COM
Subject: DC253 S06 USSR ICE-LOCKED


In keeping with my overly generous waiting on this 1 I let it go this far
but no more. USSR really did not suffer as loss of Arm was a given. 4 more
Turk scs also a given. On to next Wed 8/5
Poland:
A Arm - Sev
A Ber - Ham (*Fails*)
A Kie Supports A Arm - Sev (*Cut*)
A Kra - Pri
A Pra - Mun (*Fails*)
A Slo - Kra (*Bounce*)
F WBS Supports A Ber - Ham

Britain:
F Bre - MAO
A Den Supports F WBS - Swe (*Void*)
F Edi - Nwg
F Eng Supports F Bre - MAO
A Hol Supports A Ham
F NAO Supports F Edi - Nwg
F Nth Supports A Osl
A Osl Supports F WBS - Swe (*Void*)
A Yor, no move received

France:
A Ham Hold
A Mun Supports A Ham (*Cut*)
A Par - Bur
A Swi Hold

Italy:
A hun - Aus
A Mar - Pie
F Rom - Tus
F Tun Supports F WMS - Tys (*Cut*)
F WMS - Tys

USSR:
F Fin, no move received
F Lap, no move received
A Mol, no move received
A Swe, no move received

Turkey:
A Ank - Arm
A Apu - Tri
F Bla Supports A Mol - Sev (*Void*)
A Buc - Tra
F Ion - Tun (*Fails*)
A Kur Supports A Ank - Arm
A Mos - Kie (*Fails*)
F Nap Supports F Tys - Rom
F Smy - EMS
F Tys - Rom

Czechoslovakia:
A Beo - hun
A Gal - Kra (*Bounce*)

Spain:
F Por - MAO (*Fails*)
F SOG - WMS

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dc263 ~ Babylon 5 - sgttodd   (Aug 07, 2009, 11:15 am)
The deadline for retreats is: Saturday, August 8th; 2359 UTC.
The deadline for builds is: Monday, August 10th; 2359 UTC.

The following units were dislodged:

Vorlonian A Mirata 7 can retreat to Lorka 7.
Shadow F Sector 88 can retreat to Sector 86 or Kepti or Sector 71.

Ownership:

Earth: Babylon 5, Earth, Mars, Titan, Aris Colony, Beta Durani, Deneb 4, Ipsha, Janos 7, Orion, Proxima 3, Regula 4, Vega.
Minbari: Minbar, Chudomo, Norsai, Brakiri, Dura 7, Gaim, Kazami III, Latig 4, L Gn Daort, Mirata 7, Tizino Prime.
Centauri: Centauri Prime, Brakesh 9, Davo, Akdor, Gorash 7, Markab, Pakmara, Praxis 9, Ragesh 3, Shi, Yolu.
Narn: Narn, D Grn, Dross, Drakh, D Tira, L Gidor, Lukantha.
Shadow: Z Ha Dum, Outer Rim, Kepti, Ceti 4, Malax, Zafran 7.
Drazi: Drazi, Draxis, Zagro 7, Arisia Colony, Dilgar, Omega 7, Theta 49, Tikar, Tokati, Vree.
Vorlon: Vorlon, Berdina, Virana, Coriana 6, Ikarra 7, Lorka 7, Ralga, Sigma 957, Thalitene.
Unowned: Abbai4, Daltron 7, Enfili, Hilak 7, Tripani 7, Ventari 3, Zander Prime.

Adjustments:

Earth: Supp 13 Unit 10 Build 3
Minbari: Supp 11 Unit 8 Build 3
Centauri: Supp 11 Unit 8 Build 3
Narn: Supp 7 Unit 6 Build 1
Shadow: Supp 6 Unit 8 Remove 2
Drazi: Supp 10 Unit 8 Build 2
Vorlon: Supp 9 Unit 7 Build 2

Unit locations:

Earth: F Babylon 5, F Aris Colony, A Beta Durani, A Janos 7, F Proxima 3, F Quadrant 32, F Quadrant 54, F Quadrant 55, F Regula 4, F Sector 09.
Minbari: F Brakiri, A Gaim, F Latig 4, F L Gn Daort, F Mirata 7, F Quadrant 48, F Sector 92, F Tizino Prime.
Centauri: F Outer Centauri space, F Antares Sector, A Gorash 7, F Markab, F Ragesh 3, F Sector 14, F Shi, F Yolu.
Narn: F Dross, F Narn Outer Space, F Drakh, A L Gidor, F Lukantha, F Sector 88.
Shadow: F Z Ha Dum, F Rim Space, F Ceti 4, A Malax, F Quadrant 73, F Quadrant 91, F Sector 88, F Zafran 7.
Drazi: F Outer Drazu, F Dilgar, F Quadrant 31, F Sector 17, F Sector 38, F Theta 49, A Tokati, F Vree.
Vorlon: F Virana, F Volron Outer Space, F Ikarra 7, A Mirata 7, F Nether Rim, F Quadrant 90, F Ralga.

Movement results for Fall of 2263.

Earth: F Babylon 5 - Quadrant 55 (*Fails*).
Earth: F Near sol - Proxima 3.
Earth: A Beta Durani Hold.
Earth: F Grid Epsilon - Quadrant 54.
Earth: A Ipsha - Janos 7.
Earth: F Quadrant 54 - Aris Colony.
Earth: F Quadrant 55 - Ipsha (*Bounce*).
Earth: F Regula 4 - Quadrant 32.
Earth: F Sector 01 - Regula 4.
Earth: F Sector 09 Convoys F Ipsha - Janos 7.

Minbari: F Minbari Outer Realm - Tizino Prime.
Minbari: A Janos 7 - Gaim.
Minbari: F L Gn Daort - Quadrant 48 (*Bounce*).
Minbari: F Quadrant 20 - Latig 4.
Minbari: F Quadrant 48 - Coriana 6 (*Bounce*).
Minbari: F Sector 35 - Mirata 7.
Minbari: F Sector 92 Supports F Sector 35 - Mirata 7.
Minbari: F Tizino Prime - Brakiri.

Centauri: F Outer Centauri space - Sector 14.
Centauri: A Akdor - Gorash 7.
Centauri: F Markab Supports F Vree.
Centauri: F Quadrant 13 - Shi.
Centauri: F Ragesh 3 Supports F Sector 84 (*Ordered to Move*).
Centauri: F Sector 14 - Antares Sector.
Centauri: F Sector 51 - Yolu.
Centauri: F Sector 81 - Outer Centauri space.

Narn: F Dross - Narn Outer Space.
Narn: F Drakh Supports F D Tira - Sector 88.
Narn: F D Tira - Sector 88.
Narn: A L Gidor Hold.
Narn: F Lukantha - Ceti 4 (*Fails*).
Narn: F Sector 84 - Dross.

Shadow: F Rim Space Supports F Zafran 7 (*Cut*).
Shadow: F Sector 86 - Z Ha Dum.
Shadow: F Ceti 4 - Lukantha (*Fails*).
Shadow: A Malax Supports F Quadrant 91 - Ralga (*Cut*).
Shadow: F Quadrant 91 - Ralga (*Fails*).
Shadow: F Sector 88, no move received (*Dislodged*).
Shadow: F Shi - Quadrant 73.
Shadow: F Zafran 7, no move received.

Drazi: F Inisr Drazu - Outer Drazu.
Drazi: F Outer Drazu - Dilgar.
Drazi: F Sector 17 Supports F Outer Drazu - Dilgar.
Drazi: F Sector 20 - Quadrant 31.
Drazi: F Sector 38 - Ipsha (*Bounce*).
Drazi: F Theta 49 Supports F Sector 20 - Quadrant 31.
Drazi: A Tokati, no move received.
Drazi: F Vree Hold.

Vorlon: F Virana - Quadrant 48 (*Bounce*).
Vorlon: F Volron Outer Space - Malax (*Fails*).
Vorlon: F Ikarra 7 Supports F Quadrant 45 - Ralga.
Vorlon: A Mirata 7 Hold (*Dislodged*).
Vorlon: F Nether Rim - Rim Space (*Fails*).
Vorlon: F Quadrant 45 - Ralga.
Vorlon: F Quadrant 90 - Coriana 6 (*Bounce*).

The deadline for retreats is: Saturday, August 8th; 2359 UTC.
The deadline for builds is: Monday, August 10th; 2359 UTC.
files: http://mainecav.org/diplomacy

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DC 247: F1919 Adjudication - AceRimmer   (Aug 07, 2009, 9:13 am)
I apologize, gentlemen. I have become slovenly in my GM'ing and have for the second straight week yutzed on an adjudication. I'm sorry.

The draw proposal fails.

I may be becoming lazy, but I'm behind Benjy who for the third straight season NMRs. In consequence, he has a retreat to submit:

Italian Army Rumania may retreat to Budapest, Serbia, or OTB.

On account of the many disbanded units during the year (English Army Warsaw, French Fleet Tyrrhenian Sea, Turkish Army Piedmont), the adjustments phase will feature multiple builds:
England: Supp 13 Unit 11 Build 2
France: Supp 6 Unit 5 Build 1
Italy: Supp 1/2 Unit 1 Build 0
Russia: Supp 4/5 Unit 5 Remove 0/1
Turkey: Supp 9 Unit 8 Build 1

[Note: with no home centers, Italy cannot build a unit if he retreats to Budapest]. Russia should submit a conditional disband. Others may also submit conditional adjustment orders.

I will adjudicate later today at the usual time, if nobody objects.

Again, my apologies for missing the train.

Fall 1919:
England:
F Baltic Sea - Kiel
A Berlin - Prussia
F Gulf of Bothnia - Baltic Sea
F Helgoland Bight Hold
A Livonia Supports A Warsaw
F Mid-Atlantic Ocean Hold
A Munich Supports A Silesia
F North Sea Hold
A Ruhr Supports A Munich
A Silesia Supports A Warsaw (*Cut*)
A St Petersburg - Moscow
A Warsaw Supports A St Petersburg - Moscow (*Disbanded*)

France:
F Gulf of Lyon Supports A Piedmont
A Marseilles - Burgundy
A Piedmont Hold
F Tunis Hold
F Western Mediterranean Supports F Tunis

Italy:
A Rumania Hold (*Dislodged*)

Russia:
A Bohemia - Silesia (*Fails*)
A Galicia Supports A Moscow - Warsaw
A Moscow - Warsaw
A Sevastopol - Rumania
A Ukraine Supports A Moscow - Warsaw

Turkey:
A Bulgaria Supports A Sevastopol - Rumania
F Ionian Sea Supports F Tyrrhenian Sea
F Naples Supports F Tyrrhenian Sea
F Rome Supports F Tyrrhenian Sea
F Tuscany Supports F Tyrrhenian Sea
A Tyrolia Supports A Bohemia (*Ordered to Move*)
F Tyrrhenian Sea Hold
A Venice Supports A Tyrolia

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DC-224 Game status - LadyDay   (Aug 07, 2009, 8:27 am)
And when Trout does get his access back and the missing
orders, the Undead will be enjoying the Shining Sables of
Olonne. What little access I have for the next couple of
weeks will be at my alternate address : su_casta(at)yahoo.com.
Hopefully it will take a while to get either the missing
orders or a replacement...

Suzanne, soon to be a very tanned Undead

Players of dc212, dc224, dc230, dc250... Trout has let me know that his fantastic dialup access has been demolished by a falling tree. True bastards those falling trees can be, demolishing their phone lines like they think they're big, and heavy, and... can demolish phone lines. Wait. They are those things.

Anyways being that trouts tend to not be psychic, he has indicated that he is not going to attempt to predict when the local service companies will be able to deal with aforementioned fallen tree, let alone get the phone lines up and working again.

Worst comes to worst, hang in there for we all know that by at least the end of the season, Trout will resume his swim downstream to return to cooler waters. By that time, or sooner, we should hear more from him. Or, tomorrow when he goes into the nearby town, whichever is sooner.

Your messenger,
-mike

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DC 218 SHIFT LEFT: fall due 8/10 - packrat   (Aug 07, 2009, 6:53 am)
Since the deadline is Monday THIS is your warning to get the
orders in on time. Some are missing still.


I will NMR if they are not in by Monday night.

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dc267 deadline approaching - MattTheLesser   (Aug 07, 2009, 2:21 am)
Friday at 9 eastern! I have confirmed all sets I have received.

Matt

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DC242: Fall 1909 - Rocketship   (Aug 07, 2009, 12:11 am)
DC242: Fall 1909


England:
A Bohemia - Tyrolia (*Disbanded*)
A Burgundy - Ruhr (*Fails*)
F Gascony - Brest (*Bounce*)
F Gulf of Lyon - Marseilles (*Bounce*)
F Holland - Kiel
F Livonia Hold
F Mid-Atlantic Ocean - Spain(sc)
A Picardy - Belgium
A Prussia - Berlin
A Silesia - Munich (*Bounce*)
F St Petersburg(nc) Hold
F Tunis Hold
F Western Mediterranean Supports F Mid-Atlantic Ocean - Spain(sc)

France:
A Marseilles - Burgundy (*Fails*)
A Paris - Brest (*Bounce*)
A Ruhr - Munich (*Bounce*)
A Spain - Marseilles (*Dislodged*)

Italy:
A Piedmont Supports A Marseilles (*Ordered to Move*)
A Venice Supports A Piedmont (*Dislodged*)

Turkey:
F Aegean Sea Convoys A Smyrna - Apulia
A Constantinople - Bulgaria
A Galicia - Bohemia
F Greece - Albania
F Ionian Sea Convoys A Smyrna - Apulia
A Moscow Supports A Warsaw
A Naples Hold
A Rome Supports A Trieste - Venice
A Smyrna - Apulia
A Trieste - Venice
A Tyrolia Supports A Trieste - Venice (*Cut*)
A Vienna Supports A Galicia - Bohemia
A Warsaw Hold



We have two retreats. In both cases, only one option was available:

France:
A Spain - Portugal

Italy:
A Venice - Tuscany

If the respective players wish to disband instead, please let me know
within 24 hours.

Assuming these retreats stand, we have the following Winter adjustments:

England:
Build
Build
Build

France:
Remove

Italy:
Remove

Turkey:
Build
Build

Please have these orders in by Monday, August 10, 2009, at 05:00GMT.
The Spring 1910 orders will then be due Saturday, August 15, 2009, at
05:00GMT.

Cheers,

Matthew

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DC226 Before Spring 1910 Press! - hapolley   (Aug 06, 2009, 3:33 pm)
I am going to delay adjudication for press! Please send in press separate from orders and with press in subject line, so I am sure that you want it issued early, and so I do not believe it is intended to go out with orders. I do not check much more than subject line till I am ready to adjudicate.

Dearest Bertie,

This is the time, we have no further room for manoeuvre as the Turk advances inexorably towards conquering Europe.

We must act together, and quickly!

As you can see I have throw everything Eastwards, with some exceptions as detailed below.

Thank you for your advice re SPA. I have ordered my A to take it.

Here is my outline plan.

1. Please do not be alarmed at F NTH. Will go to SKageraak next season and you can eliminate so I can build an extra army. If there is a better way, please advise soonest! If you have bounced me here, (which may well be the case) please advise how I can disband efficiently.

2. Allow me to take BRE.

With the extra A from SPA, and BRE, and the disbandment of my F, I will have three extra armies to slow the Turk.

Bertie, you must trust me here., I will go all out to stop Turkey, but I need you to cooperate with me as much as you can.

The matter, the future of Europe is in your hands!

Do not let it fall to the islamic infidels, two thousand years of Christianity is at stake, we CAN stop him, and the decision is entirely yours!

Willie.









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