| DC 216 - WOT2 - Spring 1000 Results - Githraine (Dec 12, 2008, 9:58 am) |
The Borderlands Campaigns continue to roll forward. The Trollocs are pushed back into Tarwin's Gap, Cairhien is defended from attacks by the Aiel and the Midlands, and Baerlon Falls, with the loss only of the empty Caralain Grass.
In the Southlands, Far Madding and the Fingers of the Dragon are defended but Illian falls to the Seafolk with the help of the Whitecloaks.
Few other movements are made.
The retreats are all single option.
The Trollocs fall back to the Gap, Illian can only retreat to the Plains of Maredo, and Baerlon can only fall back on Whitebridge.
I have so ordered. If anyone prefers an OTB, please let me know ASAP.
Fall orders are due Wednesday, Dec 17 (at) 9PM.
I will Adjudicate first thing Thursday Morning. If you dont have a response from me on your orders I will issue NMRs.
Trollocs:
A Fal Dara - Arafel (*Dislodged*)
SeaFolk:
F Sea of Storms - The Fingers of the Dragon (*Bounce*)
F Ebou Dar Bay - Sea of Storms (*Fails*)
F Kabal Deep - Illian
F Aile Dashar Hold
Borderlands:
A Shienar - Fal Dara
A Arafel Supports A Shienar - Fal Dara
A Shadar Logoth Supports A Caralain Grass - Baerlon
A Caralain Grass - Baerlon
A The Black Hills - Tar Valon
A Almoren Supports A Cairhien
A Cairhien Hold
WestLands:
F Aile Dashar Sea Hold
A Arad Doman - Dhagon
A Tarabon Supports A Elmora
A Elmora Supports A Tarabon
A Mist Pass - Emond's Field (*Fails*)
Southlands:
A Illian Supports A Far Madding (*Dislodged*)
A Far Madding Hold
A Tear Supports A Far Madding
F Godon - The Fingers of the Dragon (*Bounce*)
A Mayene - Godon (*Fails*)
Midlands:
A Emond's Field Supports A Baerlon (*Cut*)
A Baerlon Supports A Whitebridge - Caralain Grass (*Dislodged*)
A Braem Wood Supports A Aringill - Cairhien
A Whitebridge - Caralain Grass
A Lugard Supports A Hills of Kintara - Far Madding
A Hills of Kintara - Far Madding (*Fails*)
A Aringill - Cairhien (*Fails*)
WhiteCloaks:
A Eastern Shadow Coast Supports A Ebou Dar
A Amadacia Supports A Salidar
A Salidar Supports F Kabal Deep - Illian
A Ebou Dar Hold
Aiel:
A Jangai Pass - Cairhien (*Fails*)[Reply] |
| DC 180: On a Scandal: Winter 09, Draw Proposals - scaponig (Dec 12, 2008, 6:13 am) |
Germany Build A Munich
Still haven't gotten all the votes for the A/F/G Draw; those votes are due with your Spring orders
New draw proposal: F/G Draw, A, T, R Survivals
Please vote on this one as well, due with Spring Orders
If one passes and the other doesn't, then the game ends with that draw.
If neither passes, then we move on as usual, so send in Spring orders as though neither will pass.
If Both pass, then the draw with the fewest winners takes precedence, so the game will end with an F/G Draw, A, T, R Survivals.
Spring Orders, along with Draw Votes, due on Wednesday, December 17 at 23:59 GMT.
Steve[Reply] |
| DC 207: Spring 366 BC Adjucation - eduardok (Dec 12, 2008, 5:25 am) |
And you betrayed me!!!
I think that you couldn´t really expect to survive alone there. Do you?
Now we all can talk.
Yen
Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2008 17:46:22 +1100
From: stevelytton(at)gmail.com
To: former.trout(at)gmail.com
Subject: Re: DC 207: Spring 366 BC Adjucation
CC: scaponig(at)yahoo.com; agenbite.lee(at)gmail.com; DC207(at)diplomaticcorp.com; eduardo.kyono(at)hotmail.com; fimdoinicio(at)hotmail.com; ghostinashell_2000(at)yahoo.com; jrobfoster(at)gmail.com; jwmchughjr(at)gmail.com; rodtheworm(at)hotmail.com; mike(at)southwall.com
You disbanded my army. I have nothing to say to you.
On 12/12/2008, Former Trout <former.trout(at)gmail.com ([email]former.trout(at)gmail.com[/email])> wrote: Holy crap guys.. The only love I'm getting is from the neighbourhood yaks...
Consider my emails to be in the mail imminently. We all need to sit down and have a little talk. A little somethin-somethin about armed neutrals.. =P
Cheers,
Beleaguered Trout
On Thu, Dec 11, 2008 at 5:19 AM, Steve Caponigri <scaponig(at)yahoo.com ([email]scaponig(at)yahoo.com[/email])> wrote:
[quote:fdcd9c5e7c] "Pretend inferiority and encourage his arrogance."
-Sun Tzu
The Good: Chin Armies advance in all directions.
The Bad: Ch'i doesn't gain anything, may lose one.
The Ugly: Yen liberate their home center from the Barbarians, but will it last?
One retreat, and it's a neutral, so I need orders from everyone. Both neutrals were ordered to move this turn, but it came to nothing, as Chin took Handan anyway. A Handan can retreat to Lintse or OTB. Send in your vote ASAP, due by tomorrow night, December 12 at 23:59 GMT.
Thanks!
Steve
Chao:
A Tung Chinyang Hold
Chii:
A Lintse - Nan Lintse
A Lu Supports A Lintse - Nan Lintse
A Sung Supports F Tsechuan - Nan Tsechuan (*Cut*)
F Tsechuan - Nan Tsechuan (*Fails*)
Chin:
A Chinyang Supports A Pei Shang - Nan Turfan
A Hsi Handan Supports A Wei - Handan
A Pei Shang - Nan Turfan
A Shang - Yueyang
A Wei - Handan
A Yueyang - Hsianyang
Chu:
A Chen Supports A Ying
A Hsi Yueh Hold
A Pengli Supports A Hsi Yueh
A Ying Supports A Shang - Yueyang (*Cut*)
Hsiung-Nu:
A Choson - Nan Hsienpi
A Hsiangping - Yubeiping (*Fails*)
A Nan Lintse - Tsechuan (*Disbanded*)
A Yubeiping - Shanggu
Shu:
A Ba - Pei Choushi (*Fails*)
A Chang'an Supports A Hanchung
A Hanchung Supports A Nanchin - Ying
A Nanchin - Ying (*Fails*)
A Pei Choushi - Hsi Yueh (*Fails*)
Yen:
A Chungshan - Yubeiping
A Nan Yubeiping Supports A Chungshan - Yubeiping
Neutrals:
A Handan - Sung (*Dislodged*)
A Nan Tsechuan Supports A Handan - Sung (*Cut*)
[/quote:fdcd9c5e7c]
--
Stephen
aka Deathblade_penguin,
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| DC219, All Adjustments in - m_don_j (Dec 12, 2008, 4:43 am) |
Fellow players,
I've got all the adjustments. You still have a bit more than 9 hours to change them, if you'd like to.
Cheers!
/ Mikael
Kolla på video med dina Messenger-polare! Messenger TV[Reply] |
| DC 207: Spring 366 BC Adjucation - stevelytton at gmail.com (Dec 12, 2008, 12:47 am) |
You disbanded my army. I have nothing to say to you.
On 12/12/2008, Former Trout <former.trout(at)gmail.com ([email]former.trout(at)gmail.com[/email])> wrote: Holy crap guys.. The only love I'm getting is from the neighbourhood yaks...
Consider my emails to be in the mail imminently. We all need to sit down and have a little talk. A little somethin-somethin about armed neutrals.. =P
Cheers,
Beleaguered Trout
On Thu, Dec 11, 2008 at 5:19 AM, Steve Caponigri <scaponig(at)yahoo.com ([email]scaponig(at)yahoo.com[/email])> wrote:
[quote:7732faeff6] "Pretend inferiority and encourage his arrogance."
-Sun Tzu
The Good: Chin Armies advance in all directions.
The Bad: Ch'i doesn't gain anything, may lose one.
The Ugly: Yen liberate their home center from the Barbarians, but will it last?
One retreat, and it's a neutral, so I need orders from everyone. Both neutrals were ordered to move this turn, but it came to nothing, as Chin took Handan anyway. A Handan can retreat to Lintse or OTB. Send in your vote ASAP, due by tomorrow night, December 12 at 23:59 GMT.
Thanks!
Steve
Chao:
A Tung Chinyang Hold
Chii:
A Lintse - Nan Lintse
A Lu Supports A Lintse - Nan Lintse
A Sung Supports F Tsechuan - Nan Tsechuan (*Cut*)
F Tsechuan - Nan Tsechuan (*Fails*)
Chin:
A Chinyang Supports A Pei Shang - Nan Turfan
A Hsi Handan Supports A Wei - Handan
A Pei Shang - Nan Turfan
A Shang - Yueyang
A Wei - Handan
A Yueyang - Hsianyang
Chu:
A Chen Supports A Ying
A Hsi Yueh Hold
A Pengli Supports A Hsi Yueh
A Ying Supports A Shang - Yueyang (*Cut*)
Hsiung-Nu:
A Choson - Nan Hsienpi
A Hsiangping - Yubeiping (*Fails*)
A Nan Lintse - Tsechuan (*Disbanded*)
A Yubeiping - Shanggu
Shu:
A Ba - Pei Choushi (*Fails*)
A Chang'an Supports A Hanchung
A Hanchung Supports A Nanchin - Ying
A Nanchin - Ying (*Fails*)
A Pei Choushi - Hsi Yueh (*Fails*)
Yen:
A Chungshan - Yubeiping
A Nan Yubeiping Supports A Chungshan - Yubeiping
Neutrals:
A Handan - Sung (*Dislodged*)
A Nan Tsechuan Supports A Handan - Sung (*Cut*)
[/quote:7732faeff6]
--
Stephen
aka Deathblade_penguin,
Knight of the Rose[Reply] |
| DC191 Baltic Delay - Vote Extension - former.trout (Dec 11, 2008, 10:27 pm) |
Heya Baltic guys,
I unfortunately received only one of two winter adjustments. We'll extend 24 hours to gather the second in - if no orders are forthcoming by that time I'll auto-adjust as required.
A player has requested that the vote deadline for the 3-way draw be set for the Spring turn - which will be roughly mid-next week. So hang in there, kiddos!
Cheers!
Trout[Reply] |
| DC222 Winter 01 Extension - former.trout (Dec 11, 2008, 10:14 pm) |
Heya folks,
Well, well, well... Granted I failed to get a deadline notice out last night, but I'm not sure I expected this result from it. Three sets of late Winter adjustments and one set received with a misorder. Yikes.
We'll extend for 24 hours in hopes that these little difficulties can be resolved. Revised deadline for Winter 01 will be set for Friday, December 12th (11:59 PM GMT).
Cheers!
Flabbergasted Trout[Reply] |
| DC 212 Delay - Verticallychallangedcutie (Dec 11, 2008, 8:53 pm) |
Folks,
There is a slight delay in the results coming out. My internet connection keeps going out and I'm waiting to hear back from a player about a question I had. As soon as I hear back from him I will send out the results.
-Rachael[Reply] |
| DC 220 Mistake in Results - Verticallychallangedcutie (Dec 11, 2008, 8:43 pm) |
Folks,
Thank you to Alex for letting me now that I made a mistake. He ordered his Fleet in Bar to Norway not to NWG. So make sure you guys make the proper adjustments. I've attached the map and dpy file for anyone who needs it.
-Rachael[Reply] |
| dc208 Winter Adjustments and a draw is proposed! - coebq (Dec 11, 2008, 7:46 pm) |
Always a good thing to be writing about "Winter" when sitting in a warm, sunny spot like Singapore...
Early reports were correct. The Russian fleet escaping the fall of Sevastopol was too badly damaged to continue the fight. With no friendly ports of refuge along the bleak coast of the Black Sea, and no hope of breaking into the Eastern Mediterranean, its captain decided to scuttle the once mighty battleship rather than to see it in the hands of the enemy. Film at 11.
But even while the crew of the doomed Russian fleet was being "rescued" by Austrian authorities, diplomats in capitals across Europe were working furiously to bring a close to the war, now entering its 6th year. Out of this marathon effort comes a proposed two-way, England-Austria draw which now needs to be voted upon.
For those of you uncertain what this entails, if approved, the game would end in a draw with England and Austria declared duel winners while France and Russia would "survive." The proposed draw requires "yes" votes from ALL players to be successful. One "no" vote kills the proposal and the game continues. Votes, like orders, are ALWAYS confidential. I will ask that you provide me with your vote along with your Spring, 1906 orders, which will be due on Monday, December 15 at 2359 GMT.
You can, however, vote early (not often, however), and I highly recommend it. As soon as I have four "yes" votes or one "no" vote, I'll let you know immediately and the game will either end or continue with the Spring turn.
As always thanks for your early orders and good luck!
Bruce
______________________________________________________________________
Status of the Adjustment orders for Winter of 1905. (dc208 Winter 1905)
Austria: Build F Trieste.
Austria: Build A Budapest.
Austria: Build A Vienna.
England: Build A London.
France: Build A Paris.
Russia: Remove F Black Sea.
NEXT DEADLINE: SPRING 1906 ORDERS AND DRAW VOTE DUE MONDAY, DECEMBER 15 AT 2359 HRS, GMT.[Reply] |
| dc 197 Autumn 1905 - Kai (Dec 11, 2008, 7:30 pm) |
Italy:
F Smyrna - Eastern Mediterranean
F Tunis - Ionian Sea
Adjustments:
Austria: Supp 10 Unit 7 Build 3
England: Supp 0 Unit 1 Remove 1
France: Supp 11 Unit 8 Build 3
Germany: Supp 6 Unit 7 Remove 1
Italy: Supp 1 Unit 3 Remove 2
Russia: Supp 3 Unit 4 Remove 1
Turkey: Supp 3 Unit 3 Build 0
Please give me orders by Tuesday the 16th, 23:00 GMT.[Reply] |
| Unknown - txurce (Dec 11, 2008, 7:03 pm) |
Mikael, I appreciate your support, and Alex, thanks in advance for the reply I assume would be coming. After reading the last two epitaphs, please don't bother. I now realize that the two eliminatees-to-be are galled by how much I don't deserve what you and Mikael are so generously giving me. Let's leave it that way. It's a lot more fun.
Jorge[Reply] |
| Unknown - txurce (Dec 11, 2008, 6:58 pm) |
Sounds like you haven't learned a lot since you were twelve, Matt! While I was hoping to enjoy being part of a draw with my far more accomplished allies while having fewer centers than the two survivors, it sounds like I'll have to settle for having fewer than one.
Jorge[Reply] |
| DC 180: AFG draw proposal - MattKelly (Dec 11, 2008, 6:46 pm) |
Austria's role in this game has pretty much been dictate by Alex and Mikael. Other than writing a number of mutual support orders, assisted greatly by German armies, and now French fleets, that has been about it. Frankly one set of orders for the past few turns and my guess at Alex's request. He did well doing what he was told but I would not define that as great play.
I know my playing this game they way I did has not cover me with glory but I was not interested in playing the role that Austria ultimately did--do Alex's bidding. Frankly I am amazed that Mick has stuck with me because getting Russia off a German leash cost him more than anyone else. Thanks Mick for that. So, I will stick it out to the end with Mick. Germany and France can easily deal with Austria and still hold their own against us and gain a (2) way tie which I do believe they deserve.
-Matt-
--- On Thu, 12/11/08, Mickstagman(at)aol.com <Mickstagman(at)aol.com> wrote:
From: Mickstagman(at)aol.com <Mickstagman(at)aol.com>
Subject: Re: DC 180: AFG draw proposal
To: kelly058(at)verizon.net, dc180(at)diplomaticcorp.com, wharf.rats117(at)gmail.com, m_don_j(at)hotmail.com
Date: Thursday, December 11, 2008, 7:19 PM
I have to concur with Matt in his views. Austria has played well enough in this game, but I do not feel that he is in as strong a position as Germany or France. If I were to offer to turn on Matt (or him on me) in exchange for Germany & France turning on Austria, I think you may well be tempted! I would be happy to vote for a F/G win. Otherwise I think we will have to slog it out.
Mick
[Reply] |
| DC 180: AFG draw proposal - micoxy (Dec 11, 2008, 6:20 pm) |
I have to concur with Matt in his views. Austria has played well enough in this game, but I do not feel that he is in as strong a position as Germany or France. If I were to offer to turn on Matt (or him on me) in exchange for Germany & France turning on Austria, I think you may well be tempted! I would be happy to vote for a F/G win. Otherwise I think we will have to slog it out.
Mick[Reply] |
| DC 180: AFG draw proposal - m_don_j (Dec 11, 2008, 4:15 pm) |
Matt,
I would not have voted in favour if I didn't think Austria deserved to be in this. I think he's played a quite good game, and he's been instrumental in holding R/T back - and that does count for a lot in my book. As for your request, I don't think Austria would accept that. I would, of course 
/ Mikael
Date: Thu, 11 Dec 2008 14:00:22 -0800
From: kelly058(at)verizon.net
Subject: RE: DC 180: AFG draw proposal
To: mickstagman(at)aol.com; dc180(at)diplomaticcorp.com; wharf.rats117(at)gmail.com; m_don_j(at)hotmail.com
I'll let Mick speak for himself. I've been playing this game since I was 12. I now have grand-children. I have found it appropriate at times to include a player with only one center left in a tie proposal because of exceptional play. And that is how I judge who I believe should be included in a tie--How they play. While I am relatively new to this game I have looked back at how the game progressed and Austria's inclusion in the tie is not warranted. I would be happy to vote for a German/French tie which is well deserved. If that is not acceptable then take me out.
-Matt-
--- On Thu, 12/11/08, Mikael Johansson <m_don_j(at)hotmail.com> wrote:
From: Mikael Johansson <m_don_j(at)hotmail.com>
Subject: RE: DC 180: AFG draw proposal
To: kelly058(at)verizon.net, mickstagman(at)aol.com, dc180(at)diplomaticcorp.com, wharf.rats117(at)gmail.com, jmsaralegui(at)gmail.com
Date: Thursday, December 11, 2008, 3:04 PM
.ExternalClass #EC_yiv856973505 .EC_hmmessage P {padding:0px;} .ExternalClass #EC_yiv856973505 {font-size:10pt;font-family:Verdana;} I support this draw proposal.
/ Mikael aka France
Date: Thu, 11 Dec 2008 12:01:44 -0800
From: kelly058(at)verizon.net
Subject: Re: DC 180: AFG draw proposal
To: mickstagman(at)aol.com; dc180(at)diplomaticcorp.com; m_don_j(at)hotmail.com; wharf.rats117(at)gmail.com; jmsaralegui(at)gmail.com
Jorge,
Please don't take this the wrong way but I would rather hear what France and Germany have to say about this. It will be they, not you, who control the outcome of the game.
-Matt-
Russia
--- On Thu, 12/11/08, Jorge Saralegui <jmsaralegui(at)gmail.com> wrote:
[quote:cf58272e0c]From: Jorge Saralegui <jmsaralegui(at)gmail.com>
Subject: DC 180: AFG draw proposal
To: "Mike Cox" <mickstagman(at)aol.com>, dc180(at)diplomaticcorp.com, "Mikael Johansson" <m_don_j(at)hotmail.com>, "Matt Kelly" <kelly058(at)verizon.net>, "Alex MacBain" <wharf.rats117(at)gmail.com>
Date: Thursday, December 11, 2008, 12:25 PM
Matt and Mick,
I'm sure both of you can see that if the AFG alliance doesn't break up, you can neither win nor stalemate. Speaking for the alliance, I can say that we have every intention of sticking together until the inevitable. Please feel free to confirm this privately. By agreeing to an AFG draw now, we all save time playing out a foregone conclusion, and you both survive. If you would rather continue until elimination, then we will of course oblige. Should you choose to keep playing, don't assume that survival is a standing offer.
Jorge
Långtråkigt? Mängder av sköna spel att fördriva tiden med! MSN Spelhallen
[/quote:cf58272e0c]Höststäda med nya dammsugarpåsar. www.Dammsugarpåsar.Nu[Reply] |
| DC 180: AFG draw proposal - MattKelly (Dec 11, 2008, 4:01 pm) |
I'll let Mick speak for himself. I've been playing this game since I was 12. I now have grand-children. I have found it appropriate at times to include a player with only one center left in a tie proposal because of exceptional play. And that is how I judge who I believe should be included in a tie--How they play. While I am relatively new to this game I have looked back at how the game progressed and Austria's inclusion in the tie is not warranted. I would be happy to vote for a German/French tie which is well deserved. If that is not acceptable then take me out.
-Matt-
--- On Thu, 12/11/08, Mikael Johansson <m_don_j(at)hotmail.com> wrote:
From: Mikael Johansson <m_don_j(at)hotmail.com>
Subject: RE: DC 180: AFG draw proposal
To: kelly058(at)verizon.net, mickstagman(at)aol.com, dc180(at)diplomaticcorp.com, wharf.rats117(at)gmail.com, jmsaralegui(at)gmail.com
Date: Thursday, December 11, 2008, 3:04 PM
#yiv856973505 .hmmessage P { margin:0px;padding:0px;} #yiv856973505 { font-size:10pt;font-family:Verdana;} I support this draw proposal.
/ Mikael aka France
Date: Thu, 11 Dec 2008 12:01:44 -0800
From: kelly058(at)verizon.net
Subject: Re: DC 180: AFG draw proposal
To: mickstagman(at)aol.com; dc180(at)diplomaticcorp.com; m_don_j(at)hotmail.com; wharf.rats117(at)gmail.com; jmsaralegui(at)gmail.com
Jorge,
Please don't take this the wrong way but I would rather hear what France and Germany have to say about this. It will be they, not you, who control the outcome of the game.
-Matt-
Russia
--- On Thu, 12/11/08, Jorge Saralegui <jmsaralegui(at)gmail.com> wrote:
[quote:a8cbf79ed2]From: Jorge Saralegui <jmsaralegui(at)gmail.com>
Subject: DC 180: AFG draw proposal
To: "Mike Cox" <mickstagman(at)aol.com>, dc180(at)diplomaticcorp.com, "Mikael Johansson" <m_don_j(at)hotmail.com>, "Matt Kelly" <kelly058(at)verizon.net>, "Alex MacBain" <wharf.rats117(at)gmail.com>
Date: Thursday, December 11, 2008, 12:25 PM
Matt and Mick,
I'm sure both of you can see that if the AFG alliance doesn't break up, you can neither win nor stalemate. Speaking for the alliance, I can say that we have every intention of sticking together until the inevitable. Please feel free to confirm this privately. By agreeing to an AFG draw now, we all save time playing out a foregone conclusion, and you both survive. If you would rather continue until elimination, then we will of course oblige. Should you choose to keep playing, don't assume that survival is a standing offer.
Jorge
Långtråkigt? Mängder av sköna spel att fördriva tiden med! MSN Spelhallen
[/quote:a8cbf79ed2][Reply] |
| DC219, Winter deadline reminder - m_don_j (Dec 11, 2008, 3:53 pm) |
Folks,
We're about 22 hours from winter deadline. Got 2 sets this far, 2 more to go - don't wanna miss out some more firepower eh?
/ Mikael
Höststäda med nya dammsugarpåsar. www.Dammsugarpåsar.Nu[Reply] |
| DC223 - 24 hrs Delay of adjudication - bielf11 (Dec 11, 2008, 3:49 pm) |
I just received a request from Germany to delay the adjudication.
Although I rarely do this, I will grant it in the current situation.
The adjudication is thus postponed until 23:00 GMT tomorrow (Dec 12).
Any changes in orders received until that time will still be processed.
Frank[Reply] |
| Unknown - txurce (Dec 11, 2008, 3:09 pm) |
Since England may become a French vassal if somebody votes against this proposal, England votes Yes as a show of subservience to the Premier.
Jorge[Reply] |
| DC219, Ze Map - m_don_j (Dec 11, 2008, 2:05 pm) |
...and here is the map, prior to builds.
/ Mikael
Beställ bläck före 19 för leverans nästa vardag inkClub[Reply] |
| DC 180: AFG draw proposal - m_don_j (Dec 11, 2008, 2:05 pm) |
I support this draw proposal.
/ Mikael aka France
Date: Thu, 11 Dec 2008 12:01:44 -0800
From: kelly058(at)verizon.net
Subject: Re: DC 180: AFG draw proposal
To: mickstagman(at)aol.com; dc180(at)diplomaticcorp.com; m_don_j(at)hotmail.com; wharf.rats117(at)gmail.com; jmsaralegui(at)gmail.com
Jorge,
Please don't take this the wrong way but I would rather hear what France and Germany have to say about this. It will be they, not you, who control the outcome of the game.
-Matt-
Russia
--- On Thu, 12/11/08, Jorge Saralegui <jmsaralegui(at)gmail.com> wrote:
From: Jorge Saralegui <jmsaralegui(at)gmail.com>
Subject: DC 180: AFG draw proposal
To: "Mike Cox" <mickstagman(at)aol.com>, dc180(at)diplomaticcorp.com, "Mikael Johansson" <m_don_j(at)hotmail.com>, "Matt Kelly" <kelly058(at)verizon.net>, "Alex MacBain" <wharf.rats117(at)gmail.com>
Date: Thursday, December 11, 2008, 12:25 PM
Matt and Mick,
I'm sure both of you can see that if the AFG alliance doesn't break up, you can neither win nor stalemate. Speaking for the alliance, I can say that we have every intention of sticking together until the inevitable. Please feel free to confirm this privately. By agreeing to an AFG draw now, we all save time playing out a foregone conclusion, and you both survive. If you would rather continue until elimination, then we will of course oblige. Should you choose to keep playing, don't assume that survival is a standing offer.
Jorge
Långtråkigt? Mängder av sköna spel att fördriva tiden med! MSN Spelhallen[Reply] |
| DC219, Russian retreat - m_don_j (Dec 11, 2008, 2:02 pm) |
Fellow players,
Since I got NO retreat for F Swe, I will do this according to the house rules:
On a Summer or Autumn turn, an NMR(NRR) would mean the dislodged unit is disbanded.
Thus, F Swe is no more and we head straight into the building phase. A reminder on adjustments:
Austria: Supp 6 Unit 5 Build 1
England: Supp 6 Unit 4 Build 2
France: Supp 3 Unit 3 Build 0
Germany: Supp 7 Unit 6 Build 1
Italy: Supp 5 Unit 4 Build 1
Russia: Supp 4 Unit 4 Build 0
Turkey: Supp 3 Unit 3 Build 0
You have 24 hours for this; 12/12 (at) 20:00 GMT.
Have fun!
/ Mikael
Höststäda med nya dammsugarpåsar. www.Dammsugarpåsar.Nu[Reply] |
| DC 180: AFG draw proposal - MattKelly (Dec 11, 2008, 2:02 pm) |
Jorge,
Please don't take this the wrong way but I would rather hear what France and Germany have to say about this. It will be they, not you, who control the outcome of the game.
-Matt-
Russia
--- On Thu, 12/11/08, Jorge Saralegui <jmsaralegui(at)gmail.com> wrote:
From: Jorge Saralegui <jmsaralegui(at)gmail.com>
Subject: DC 180: AFG draw proposal
To: "Mike Cox" <mickstagman(at)aol.com>, dc180(at)diplomaticcorp.com, "Mikael Johansson" <m_don_j(at)hotmail.com>, "Matt Kelly" <kelly058(at)verizon.net>, "Alex MacBain" <wharf.rats117(at)gmail.com>
Date: Thursday, December 11, 2008, 12:25 PM
Matt and Mick,
I'm sure both of you can see that if the AFG alliance doesn't break up, you can neither win nor stalemate. Speaking for the alliance, I can say that we have every intention of sticking together until the inevitable. Please feel free to confirm this privately. By agreeing to an AFG draw now, we all save time playing out a foregone conclusion, and you both survive. If you would rather continue until elimination, then we will of course oblige. Should you choose to keep playing, don't assume that survival is a standing offer.
Jorge
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| Dc194 Spring 1908 - offdisc (Dec 11, 2008, 1:11 pm) |
Thanks to Steve for finishing up the GMing of this game! I was the
last replacement to join in the fray and had no clue that you were a
replacement GM.
Thanks to all the other players for keeping to the schedule.
It had been a while since I jumped into a replacement position with
anything more than a mercy position. Kind of fun to be able to not
only survive, but make a play towards a win. If it wasn't for (1) the
upcoming holidays, (2) a tight RL work schedule, and (3) Anthony's
newness to this site, I probably would have continued on to try for
the Solo. But time is short, and Anthony was a great partner, so I
saw no reason to make his first foray into our group a bad experience.
[ Note to Anthony: Every game plays differently. Next time..... ]
When I came into the game, I talked to several players, but focused on
my neighbors: England, Germany, and Austria. England (Joe) and I have
played together before, and he immediately told me that if I chose to
work with him, he'd play, but otherwise he had basically checked out
of the game. I was willing to form an EF until I talked to Germany
and Austria and figured that they would be better early partners.
Sorry Joe, but you saw it coming, so I know there won't be any
lingering grudges.
Austria and I worked out a plan to hold back Turkey, and after I
grabbed England, I had enough units to march into Germany.
At the time I made my first moves in that direction, Turkey and I came
up with a 'Replacements Rule!' plan to take over the map. I kept
directing Austria in ways to 'survive' --- all the while, filtering
the same plans to Turkey so he could attack accordingly. I was able
to convince Austria to let me move into sensitive areas to block the
Turkish advance, and found myself in a position to grab a bunch of
Austrian centers without resistance. That was too much of bonus not
to take.... and thus the FT alliance was in full effect.
Anthony and I continued working together, and I proposed the plan to
knock out Russia as well. He saw the writing on the wall: if Russia
pulled his forces out of Germany, I had a Solo in hand. Yes, that was
my goal! But Turkey reacted strongly against attacking Russia and
when he proposed to Russia to accept a 'survivorship' if we declared
an FT Draw, I felt obligated to go along with it.
Good game all! I had a blast!
Michael Hoffman
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"Shared Pain is lessened, Shared Joy is increased" --- Spider Robinson
"Whenever some act of wondrous power must be performed, Michael is
sent" --- Pope Saint Gregory the Great
On Thu, Dec 11, 2008 at 2:38 AM, Stephen Lytton <stevelytton(at)hotmail.com> wrote:
Dc194 Spring 1908
First of all I was concerned that I could not find anyone's moves, but then
I realised that everyone alive had voted
YES for the draw.
Dc194 has officially ended with a France - Turkey Draw.
Final Standings.
1st (Draw) Mike H. France 16 Sc and Anthony Turkey 12 SC
Third (Survivial) Bill. Russia 6 SC
Fourth Eliminated Winter 1907, Rachael (Germany) and Andy (Austria)
Sixth Eliminated Winter 1906, Joe (England)
Seventh Eliminated Winter 1904 David (Italy)
Thanks for a good game everyone, End of Game Statements by all players are a
welcome read after the game.
Steve
Stephen Lytton
Knight of the Rose
www.diplomaticcorp.com
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