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DC-406 Spam (but you should read this!) - FuzzyLogic   (Sep 25, 2012, 5:23 pm)
Don’t you just love congratulatory threads that aren’t cc’d to the congratulate-ee?  Adding Dirk to this.  And… Congrats!!  Looking good…-mike From: Mike Hoffman [mailto:mrh(at)panix.com]
Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2012 4:32 PM
To: Jeff Hall
Subject: Re: DC-406 Spam (but you should read this!) As a former games reviewer, I know how tricky designing and developing a game can be. Hoo Boy! I have never envied the game designer, but I sure as hell respect the good ones. So many things can go wrong: are dice too unpredictable/predictable? Are the powers aligned evenly enough? Are the cards too complicated? Even the smallest issue can doom a game to the bottom of the reviewer's closet --- and the simplest games can end up being the most successful. Who doesn't grin when they see Connect4 sitting on a shelf? Imagine if the designer had added an 8th column, or even just laid it flat on a board instead of the cool "make it rain" emptying effect?

Congrats on your success Dirk!!! I know how hard you worked for it!

Mike
---------
"Sit Long, Talk Much, Laugh Often" -- anon
"Shared Pain is lessened, Shared Joy is increased" --- Spider Robinson


On Tue, Sep 25, 2012 at 1:45 PM, Jeff Hall <hall.jeff(at)gmail.com> wrote:I'm so jealous of people that design games for a living... I KNOW (on an intellectual level) that it's not as "fun" as it sounds... but c'mon!! I look at spreadsheets all day... the closest I've come to fun is building tetris in excel while I was bored for 6 hours in an airport (for the record, anyone who complains about "poor collision detection" in video games hasn't tried to cobble together collision detection from excel borders Wink

I say good on you Dirk!

On Tue, Sep 25, 2012 at 3:31 PM, Jason K <githraine(at)yahoo.com> wrote:Hey all, one of our fellow Dip Masters is living the dream. Dirk Knemeyer has a small board game design company, and his second game is the Highlighted project on Kickstarter.He reached and surpassed his funding level today.  Check it out! http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1893407396/the-new-science?ref=home_spotlight and the rest of his games (published and in work):http://conquistador-games.myshopify.com Ok, spam over. From: Mike Hoffman <mrh(at)panix.com>
To: Maxatrest(at)yahoo.co.uk; Chris Bender <cbend37(at)aol.com>; Christopher Martin <dance.scholar(at)gmail.com>; dc406 <dc406(at)diplomaticcorp.com>; Garry Bledsoe <kielmarch(at)hotmail.com>; Hamish Williams <catsfather(at)gmail.com>; Jason K <githraine(at)yahoo.com>; Jeff Hall <hall.jeff(at)gmail.com>; Jerome Payne <jerome777(at)ymail.com>; Justin Card <justin(at)darkenedpath.com>; Mark Smith <markjsmith60(at)gmail.com>; Matt Kremer <kremer.matthew(at)gmail.com>; Michael Penner <mvpenner(at)yahoo.com>; Michael Sims <mike(at)fuzzylogicllc.net>; Pat.C C <patrickcharlescloutier(at)hotmail.com>; Philip Hahn <philip.a.hahn(at)gmail.com>; "psychosis(at)sky.com" <psychosis(at)sky.com>; René Krøll <rk(at)giorsoine.dk>; Rolf Loschek <rolfloschek(at)yahoo.de>; tim.diplomacy <tim.diplomacy(at)gmail.com>; Warren Fleming <alwayshunted(at)hotmail.com>
Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2012 1:39 AM
Subject: Re: Spring 11 Final!!! (And Draw Proposals) 24-hour warning!!!!
---------
"Sit Long, Talk Much, Laugh Often" -- anon
"Shared Pain is lessened, Shared Joy is increased" --- Spider Robinson


On Fri, Sep 14, 2012 at 3:28 PM, Mike Hoffman <mrh(at)panix.com> wrote:Hi All,Retreats have been processed, and the map and move results from Spring corrected to accomodate Spi S Drag.  Maps for Spring are included, as are maps for Final.  Several Draw proposals this turn.   Proposal 1:  Ogre Solo Proposal 2: Ogre, Undead, Dwarf Draw Proposal 3: Ogre, Dwarf, Knight Draw If you voted publicly already, THOSE VOTES DO NOT COUNT.  All votes MUST be sent to me privately. Send in votes with Fall moves.  If I receive 100% YES votes for a proposal, I will end the game without processing. Fall Deadline is Wednesday 9/19 (I'd do Thursday, but that's my anniversary and the wife has priority over Dip Smile ) Retreats for Spring 11=====================Faeries: F Grimheim - RanaarF Kingdom of Hearts - Strawberry Fields Gnomes: A Troldhaugen - Cave of Ordeals Leprechauns: F THE MAW - Ansalon Ogres: A Lubrick - MerrowA Cyriss - Moominvalley Pirates: disband F Sorrows Enddisband F WAY THE HECK ---------
"Sit Long, Talk Much, Laugh Often" -- anon
"Shared Pain is lessened, Shared Joy is increased" --- Spider Robinson  


--
It is better to be silent and thought a fool than to speak and remove all doubt
-Abraham Lincoln

The problem with Internet quotes is that you can never be certain of their accuracy
-Abraham Lincoln


 

[Reply]

DC-406 Spam (but you should read this!) - offdisc   (Sep 25, 2012, 4:32 pm)
As a former games reviewer, I know how tricky designing and developing a game can be. Hoo Boy! I have never envied the game designer, but I sure as hell respect the good ones. So many things can go wrong: are dice too unpredictable/predictable? Are the powers aligned evenly enough? Are the cards too complicated? Even the smallest issue can doom a game to the bottom of the reviewer's closet --- and the simplest games can end up being the most successful. Who doesn't grin when they see Connect4 sitting on a shelf? Imagine if the designer had added an 8th column, or even just laid it flat on a board instead of the cool "make it rain" emptying effect?


Congrats on your success Dirk!!! I know how hard you worked for it!

Mike
---------
"Sit Long, Talk Much, Laugh Often" -- anon
"Shared Pain is lessened, Shared Joy is increased" --- Spider Robinson





On Tue, Sep 25, 2012 at 1:45 PM, Jeff Hall <hall.jeff(at)gmail.com> wrote:

I'm so jealous of people that design games for a living... I KNOW (on an intellectual level) that it's not as "fun" as it sounds... but c'mon!! I look at spreadsheets all day... the closest I've come to fun is building tetris in excel while I was bored for 6 hours in an airport (for the record, anyone who complains about "poor collision detection" in video games hasn't tried to cobble together collision detection from excel borders Wink


I say good on you Dirk!


On Tue, Sep 25, 2012 at 3:31 PM, Jason K <githraine(at)yahoo.com> wrote:

Hey all, one of our fellow Dip Masters is living the dream.


Dirk Knemeyer has a small board game design company, and his second game is the Highlighted project on Kickstarter.
He reached and surpassed his funding level today.  Check it out!


http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1893407396/the-new-science?ref=home_spotlight

and the rest of his games (published and in work):http://conquistador-games.myshopify.com

Ok, spam over.


From: Mike Hoffman <mrh(at)panix.com>

To: Maxatrest(at)yahoo.co.uk; Chris Bender <cbend37(at)aol.com>; Christopher Martin <dance.scholar(at)gmail.com>; dc406 <dc406(at)diplomaticcorp.com>; Garry Bledsoe <kielmarch(at)hotmail.com>; Hamish Williams <catsfather(at)gmail.com>; Jason K <githraine(at)yahoo.com>; Jeff Hall <hall.jeff(at)gmail.com>; Jerome Payne <jerome777(at)ymail.com>; Justin Card <justin(at)darkenedpath.com>; Mark Smith <markjsmith60(at)gmail.com>; Matt Kremer <kremer.matthew(at)gmail.com>; Michael Penner <mvpenner(at)yahoo.com>; Michael Sims <mike(at)fuzzylogicllc.net>; Pat.C C <patrickcharlescloutier(at)hotmail.com>; Philip Hahn <philip.a.hahn(at)gmail.com>; "psychosis(at)sky.com" <psychosis(at)sky.com>; René Krøll
<rk(at)giorsoine.dk>; Rolf Loschek <rolfloschek(at)yahoo.de>; tim.diplomacy <tim.diplomacy(at)gmail.com>; Warren Fleming <alwayshunted(at)hotmail.com>

Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2012 1:39 AM
Subject: Re: Spring 11 Final!!! (And Draw Proposals)


24-hour warning!!!!
---------
"Sit Long, Talk Much, Laugh Often" -- anon
"Shared Pain is lessened, Shared Joy is increased" --- Spider Robinson




On Fri, Sep 14, 2012 at 3:28 PM, Mike Hoffman <mrh(at)panix.com> wrote:


Hi All,Retreats have been processed, and the map and move results from Spring corrected to accomodate Spi S Drag.  Maps for Spring are included, as are maps for Final. 
Several Draw proposals this turn.  


Proposal 1:  Ogre Solo
Proposal 2: Ogre, Undead, Dwarf Draw
Proposal 3: Ogre, Dwarf, Knight Draw
If you voted publicly already, THOSE VOTES DO NOT COUNT.  All votes MUST be sent to me privately. 

Send in votes with Fall moves.  If I receive 100% YES votes for a proposal, I will end the game without processing.
Fall Deadline is Wednesday 9/19 (I'd do Thursday, but that's my anniversary and the wife has priority over Dip Smile )


Retreats for Spring 11=====================Faeries: F Grimheim - RanaarF Kingdom of Hearts - Strawberry Fields
Gnomes: A Troldhaugen - Cave of Ordeals


Leprechauns: F THE MAW - Ansalon
Ogres: A Lubrick - MerrowA Cyriss - Moominvalley
Pirates: disband F Sorrows End

disband F WAY THE HECK
---------
"Sit Long, Talk Much, Laugh Often" -- anon
"Shared Pain is lessened, Shared Joy is increased" --- Spider Robinson










--
It is better to be silent and thought a fool than to speak and remove all doubt
-Abraham Lincoln

The problem with Internet quotes is that you can never be certain of their accuracy

-Abraham Lincoln

[Reply]

DC-406 Spam (but you should read this!) - laxrulz777   (Sep 25, 2012, 2:45 pm)
I'm so jealous of people that design games for a living... I KNOW (on an intellectual level) that it's not as "fun" as it sounds... but c'mon!! I look at spreadsheets all day... the closest I've come to fun is building tetris in excel while I was bored for 6 hours in an airport (for the record, anyone who complains about "poor collision detection" in video games hasn't tried to cobble together collision detection from excel borders Wink


I say good on you Dirk!


On Tue, Sep 25, 2012 at 3:31 PM, Jason K <githraine(at)yahoo.com> wrote:

Hey all, one of our fellow Dip Masters is living the dream.


Dirk Knemeyer has a small board game design company, and his second game is the Highlighted project on Kickstarter.
He reached and surpassed his funding level today.  Check it out!


http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1893407396/the-new-science?ref=home_spotlight

and the rest of his games (published and in work):http://conquistador-games.myshopify.com

Ok, spam over.


From: Mike Hoffman <mrh(at)panix.com>

To: Maxatrest(at)yahoo.co.uk; Chris Bender <cbend37(at)aol.com>; Christopher Martin <dance.scholar(at)gmail.com>; dc406 <dc406(at)diplomaticcorp.com>; Garry Bledsoe <kielmarch(at)hotmail.com>; Hamish Williams <catsfather(at)gmail.com>; Jason K <githraine(at)yahoo.com>; Jeff Hall <hall.jeff(at)gmail.com>; Jerome Payne <jerome777(at)ymail.com>; Justin Card <justin(at)darkenedpath.com>; Mark Smith <markjsmith60(at)gmail.com>; Matt Kremer <kremer.matthew(at)gmail.com>; Michael Penner <mvpenner(at)yahoo.com>; Michael Sims <mike(at)fuzzylogicllc.net>; Pat.C C <patrickcharlescloutier(at)hotmail.com>; Philip Hahn <philip.a.hahn(at)gmail.com>; "psychosis(at)sky.com" <psychosis(at)sky.com>; René Krøll
<rk(at)giorsoine.dk>; Rolf Loschek <rolfloschek(at)yahoo.de>; tim.diplomacy <tim.diplomacy(at)gmail.com>; Warren Fleming <alwayshunted(at)hotmail.com>

Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2012 1:39 AM
Subject: Re: Spring 11 Final!!! (And Draw Proposals)


24-hour warning!!!!
---------
"Sit Long, Talk Much, Laugh Often" -- anon
"Shared Pain is lessened, Shared Joy is increased" --- Spider Robinson




On Fri, Sep 14, 2012 at 3:28 PM, Mike Hoffman <mrh(at)panix.com> wrote:

Hi All,Retreats have been processed, and the map and move results from Spring corrected to accomodate Spi S Drag.  Maps for Spring are included, as are maps for Final. 
Several Draw proposals this turn.  


Proposal 1:  Ogre Solo
Proposal 2: Ogre, Undead, Dwarf Draw
Proposal 3: Ogre, Dwarf, Knight Draw
If you voted publicly already, THOSE VOTES DO NOT COUNT.  All votes MUST be sent to me privately. 

Send in votes with Fall moves.  If I receive 100% YES votes for a proposal, I will end the game without processing.
Fall Deadline is Wednesday 9/19 (I'd do Thursday, but that's my anniversary and the wife has priority over Dip Smile )


Retreats for Spring 11=====================Faeries: F Grimheim - RanaarF Kingdom of Hearts - Strawberry Fields
Gnomes: A Troldhaugen - Cave of Ordeals


Leprechauns: F THE MAW - Ansalon
Ogres: A Lubrick - MerrowA Cyriss - Moominvalley
Pirates: disband F Sorrows End

disband F WAY THE HECK
---------
"Sit Long, Talk Much, Laugh Often" -- anon
"Shared Pain is lessened, Shared Joy is increased" --- Spider Robinson









--
It is better to be silent and thought a fool than to speak and remove all doubt
-Abraham Lincoln

The problem with Internet quotes is that you can never be certain of their accuracy

-Abraham Lincoln

[Reply]

DC-406 Spam (but you should read this!) - Githraine   (Sep 25, 2012, 2:31 pm)
Hey all, one of our fellow Dip Masters is living the dream.
Dirk Knemeyer has a small board game design company, and his second game is the Highlighted project on Kickstarter.He reached and surpassed his funding level today.  Check it out!

http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1893407396/the-new-science?ref=home_spotlight
and the rest of his games (published and in work):http://conquistador-games.myshopify.com
Ok, spam over.

From: Mike Hoffman <mrh(at)panix.com>
To: Maxatrest(at)yahoo.co.uk; Chris Bender <cbend37(at)aol.com>; Christopher Martin <dance.scholar(at)gmail.com>; dc406 <dc406(at)diplomaticcorp.com>; Garry Bledsoe <kielmarch(at)hotmail.com>; Hamish Williams <catsfather(at)gmail.com>; Jason K <githraine(at)yahoo.com>; Jeff Hall <hall.jeff(at)gmail.com>; Jerome Payne <jerome777(at)ymail.com>; Justin Card <justin(at)darkenedpath.com>; Mark Smith <markjsmith60(at)gmail.com>; Matt Kremer <kremer.matthew(at)gmail.com>; Michael Penner <mvpenner(at)yahoo.com>; Michael Sims <mike(at)fuzzylogicllc.net>; Pat.C C <patrickcharlescloutier(at)hotmail.com>; Philip Hahn <philip.a.hahn(at)gmail.com>; "psychosis(at)sky.com" <psychosis(at)sky.com>; René Krøll
<rk(at)giorsoine.dk>; Rolf Loschek <rolfloschek(at)yahoo.de>; tim.diplomacy <tim.diplomacy(at)gmail.com>; Warren Fleming <alwayshunted(at)hotmail.com>
Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2012 1:39 AM
Subject: Re: Spring 11 Final!!! (And Draw Proposals)


24-hour warning!!!!
---------
"Sit Long, Talk Much, Laugh Often" -- anon
"Shared Pain is lessened, Shared Joy is increased" --- Spider Robinson




On Fri, Sep 14, 2012 at 3:28 PM, Mike Hoffman <mrh(at)panix.com> wrote:

Hi All,Retreats have been processed, and the map and move results from Spring corrected to accomodate Spi S Drag.  Maps for Spring are included, as are maps for Final. 
Several Draw proposals this turn.  


Proposal 1:  Ogre Solo
Proposal 2: Ogre, Undead, Dwarf Draw
Proposal 3: Ogre, Dwarf, Knight Draw
If you voted publicly already, THOSE VOTES DO NOT COUNT.  All votes MUST be sent to me privately. 

Send in votes with Fall moves.  If I receive 100% YES votes for a proposal, I will end the game without processing.
Fall Deadline is Wednesday 9/19 (I'd do Thursday, but that's my anniversary and the wife has priority over Dip Smile )


Retreats for Spring 11=====================Faeries: F Grimheim - RanaarF Kingdom of Hearts - Strawberry Fields
Gnomes: A Troldhaugen - Cave of Ordeals


Leprechauns: F THE MAW - Ansalon
Ogres: A Lubrick - MerrowA Cyriss - Moominvalley
Pirates: disband F Sorrows End

disband F WAY THE HECK
---------
"Sit Long, Talk Much, Laugh Often" -- anon
"Shared Pain is lessened, Shared Joy is increased" --- Spider Robinson

[Reply]

DC-406 Spam (but you should read this!) (dc406) laxrulz777 Sep 25, 02:45 pm
I'm so jealous of people that design games for a living... I KNOW (on an intellectual level) that it's not as "fun" as it sounds... but c'mon!! I look at spreadsheets all day... the closest I've come to fun is building tetris in excel while I was bored for 6 hours in an airport (for the record, anyone who complains about "poor collision detection" in video games hasn't tried to cobble together collision detection from excel borders Wink


I say good on you Dirk!


On Tue, Sep 25, 2012 at 3:31 PM, Jason K <githraine(at)yahoo.com> wrote:

Hey all, one of our fellow Dip Masters is living the dream.


Dirk Knemeyer has a small board game design company, and his second game is the Highlighted project on Kickstarter.
He reached and surpassed his funding level today.  Check it out!


http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1893407396/the-new-science?ref=home_spotlight

and the rest of his games (published and in work):http://conquistador-games.myshopify.com

Ok, spam over.


From: Mike Hoffman <mrh(at)panix.com>

To: Maxatrest(at)yahoo.co.uk; Chris Bender <cbend37(at)aol.com>; Christopher Martin <dance.scholar(at)gmail.com>; dc406 <dc406(at)diplomaticcorp.com>; Garry Bledsoe <kielmarch(at)hotmail.com>; Hamish Williams <catsfather(at)gmail.com>; Jason K <githraine(at)yahoo.com>; Jeff Hall <hall.jeff(at)gmail.com>; Jerome Payne <jerome777(at)ymail.com>; Justin Card <justin(at)darkenedpath.com>; Mark Smith <markjsmith60(at)gmail.com>; Matt Kremer <kremer.matthew(at)gmail.com>; Michael Penner <mvpenner(at)yahoo.com>; Michael Sims <mike(at)fuzzylogicllc.net>; Pat.C C <patrickcharlescloutier(at)hotmail.com>; Philip Hahn <philip.a.hahn(at)gmail.com>; "psychosis(at)sky.com" <psychosis(at)sky.com>; René Krøll
<rk(at)giorsoine.dk>; Rolf Loschek <rolfloschek(at)yahoo.de>; tim.diplomacy <tim.diplomacy(at)gmail.com>; Warren Fleming <alwayshunted(at)hotmail.com>

Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2012 1:39 AM
Subject: Re: Spring 11 Final!!! (And Draw Proposals)


24-hour warning!!!!
---------
"Sit Long, Talk Much, Laugh Often" -- anon
"Shared Pain is lessened, Shared Joy is increased" --- Spider Robinson




On Fri, Sep 14, 2012 at 3:28 PM, Mike Hoffman <mrh(at)panix.com> wrote:

Hi All,Retreats have been processed, and the map and move results from Spring corrected to accomodate Spi S Drag.  Maps for Spring are included, as are maps for Final. 
Several Draw proposals this turn.  


Proposal 1:  Ogre Solo
Proposal 2: Ogre, Undead, Dwarf Draw
Proposal 3: Ogre, Dwarf, Knight Draw
If you voted publicly already, THOSE VOTES DO NOT COUNT.  All votes MUST be sent to me privately. 

Send in votes with Fall moves.  If I receive 100% YES votes for a proposal, I will end the game without processing.
Fall Deadline is Wednesday 9/19 (I'd do Thursday, but that's my anniversary and the wife has priority over Dip Smile )


Retreats for Spring 11=====================Faeries: F Grimheim - RanaarF Kingdom of Hearts - Strawberry Fields
Gnomes: A Troldhaugen - Cave of Ordeals


Leprechauns: F THE MAW - Ansalon
Ogres: A Lubrick - MerrowA Cyriss - Moominvalley
Pirates: disband F Sorrows End

disband F WAY THE HECK
---------
"Sit Long, Talk Much, Laugh Often" -- anon
"Shared Pain is lessened, Shared Joy is increased" --- Spider Robinson









--
It is better to be silent and thought a fool than to speak and remove all doubt
-Abraham Lincoln

The problem with Internet quotes is that you can never be certain of their accuracy

-Abraham Lincoln
DC-406 Spam (but you should read this!) (dc406) offdisc Sep 25, 04:32 pm
As a former games reviewer, I know how tricky designing and developing a game can be. Hoo Boy! I have never envied the game designer, but I sure as hell respect the good ones. So many things can go wrong: are dice too unpredictable/predictable? Are the powers aligned evenly enough? Are the cards too complicated? Even the smallest issue can doom a game to the bottom of the reviewer's closet --- and the simplest games can end up being the most successful. Who doesn't grin when they see Connect4 sitting on a shelf? Imagine if the designer had added an 8th column, or even just laid it flat on a board instead of the cool "make it rain" emptying effect?


Congrats on your success Dirk!!! I know how hard you worked for it!

Mike
---------
"Sit Long, Talk Much, Laugh Often" -- anon
"Shared Pain is lessened, Shared Joy is increased" --- Spider Robinson





On Tue, Sep 25, 2012 at 1:45 PM, Jeff Hall <hall.jeff(at)gmail.com> wrote:

I'm so jealous of people that design games for a living... I KNOW (on an intellectual level) that it's not as "fun" as it sounds... but c'mon!! I look at spreadsheets all day... the closest I've come to fun is building tetris in excel while I was bored for 6 hours in an airport (for the record, anyone who complains about "poor collision detection" in video games hasn't tried to cobble together collision detection from excel borders Wink


I say good on you Dirk!


On Tue, Sep 25, 2012 at 3:31 PM, Jason K <githraine(at)yahoo.com> wrote:

Hey all, one of our fellow Dip Masters is living the dream.


Dirk Knemeyer has a small board game design company, and his second game is the Highlighted project on Kickstarter.
He reached and surpassed his funding level today.  Check it out!


http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1893407396/the-new-science?ref=home_spotlight

and the rest of his games (published and in work):http://conquistador-games.myshopify.com

Ok, spam over.


From: Mike Hoffman <mrh(at)panix.com>

To: Maxatrest(at)yahoo.co.uk; Chris Bender <cbend37(at)aol.com>; Christopher Martin <dance.scholar(at)gmail.com>; dc406 <dc406(at)diplomaticcorp.com>; Garry Bledsoe <kielmarch(at)hotmail.com>; Hamish Williams <catsfather(at)gmail.com>; Jason K <githraine(at)yahoo.com>; Jeff Hall <hall.jeff(at)gmail.com>; Jerome Payne <jerome777(at)ymail.com>; Justin Card <justin(at)darkenedpath.com>; Mark Smith <markjsmith60(at)gmail.com>; Matt Kremer <kremer.matthew(at)gmail.com>; Michael Penner <mvpenner(at)yahoo.com>; Michael Sims <mike(at)fuzzylogicllc.net>; Pat.C C <patrickcharlescloutier(at)hotmail.com>; Philip Hahn <philip.a.hahn(at)gmail.com>; "psychosis(at)sky.com" <psychosis(at)sky.com>; René Krøll
<rk(at)giorsoine.dk>; Rolf Loschek <rolfloschek(at)yahoo.de>; tim.diplomacy <tim.diplomacy(at)gmail.com>; Warren Fleming <alwayshunted(at)hotmail.com>

Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2012 1:39 AM
Subject: Re: Spring 11 Final!!! (And Draw Proposals)


24-hour warning!!!!
---------
"Sit Long, Talk Much, Laugh Often" -- anon
"Shared Pain is lessened, Shared Joy is increased" --- Spider Robinson




On Fri, Sep 14, 2012 at 3:28 PM, Mike Hoffman <mrh(at)panix.com> wrote:


Hi All,Retreats have been processed, and the map and move results from Spring corrected to accomodate Spi S Drag.  Maps for Spring are included, as are maps for Final. 
Several Draw proposals this turn.  


Proposal 1:  Ogre Solo
Proposal 2: Ogre, Undead, Dwarf Draw
Proposal 3: Ogre, Dwarf, Knight Draw
If you voted publicly already, THOSE VOTES DO NOT COUNT.  All votes MUST be sent to me privately. 

Send in votes with Fall moves.  If I receive 100% YES votes for a proposal, I will end the game without processing.
Fall Deadline is Wednesday 9/19 (I'd do Thursday, but that's my anniversary and the wife has priority over Dip Smile )


Retreats for Spring 11=====================Faeries: F Grimheim - RanaarF Kingdom of Hearts - Strawberry Fields
Gnomes: A Troldhaugen - Cave of Ordeals


Leprechauns: F THE MAW - Ansalon
Ogres: A Lubrick - MerrowA Cyriss - Moominvalley
Pirates: disband F Sorrows End

disband F WAY THE HECK
---------
"Sit Long, Talk Much, Laugh Often" -- anon
"Shared Pain is lessened, Shared Joy is increased" --- Spider Robinson










--
It is better to be silent and thought a fool than to speak and remove all doubt
-Abraham Lincoln

The problem with Internet quotes is that you can never be certain of their accuracy

-Abraham Lincoln
DC-406 Spam (but you should read this!) (dc406) FuzzyLogic Sep 25, 05:23 pm
Don’t you just love congratulatory threads that aren’t cc’d to the congratulate-ee?  Adding Dirk to this.  And… Congrats!!  Looking good…-mike From: Mike Hoffman [mailto:mrh(at)panix.com]
Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2012 4:32 PM
To: Jeff Hall
Subject: Re: DC-406 Spam (but you should read this!) As a former games reviewer, I know how tricky designing and developing a game can be. Hoo Boy! I have never envied the game designer, but I sure as hell respect the good ones. So many things can go wrong: are dice too unpredictable/predictable? Are the powers aligned evenly enough? Are the cards too complicated? Even the smallest issue can doom a game to the bottom of the reviewer's closet --- and the simplest games can end up being the most successful. Who doesn't grin when they see Connect4 sitting on a shelf? Imagine if the designer had added an 8th column, or even just laid it flat on a board instead of the cool "make it rain" emptying effect?

Congrats on your success Dirk!!! I know how hard you worked for it!

Mike
---------
"Sit Long, Talk Much, Laugh Often" -- anon
"Shared Pain is lessened, Shared Joy is increased" --- Spider Robinson


On Tue, Sep 25, 2012 at 1:45 PM, Jeff Hall <hall.jeff(at)gmail.com> wrote:I'm so jealous of people that design games for a living... I KNOW (on an intellectual level) that it's not as "fun" as it sounds... but c'mon!! I look at spreadsheets all day... the closest I've come to fun is building tetris in excel while I was bored for 6 hours in an airport (for the record, anyone who complains about "poor collision detection" in video games hasn't tried to cobble together collision detection from excel borders Wink

I say good on you Dirk!

On Tue, Sep 25, 2012 at 3:31 PM, Jason K <githraine(at)yahoo.com> wrote:Hey all, one of our fellow Dip Masters is living the dream. Dirk Knemeyer has a small board game design company, and his second game is the Highlighted project on Kickstarter.He reached and surpassed his funding level today.  Check it out! http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1893407396/the-new-science?ref=home_spotlight and the rest of his games (published and in work):http://conquistador-games.myshopify.com Ok, spam over. From: Mike Hoffman <mrh(at)panix.com>
To: Maxatrest(at)yahoo.co.uk; Chris Bender <cbend37(at)aol.com>; Christopher Martin <dance.scholar(at)gmail.com>; dc406 <dc406(at)diplomaticcorp.com>; Garry Bledsoe <kielmarch(at)hotmail.com>; Hamish Williams <catsfather(at)gmail.com>; Jason K <githraine(at)yahoo.com>; Jeff Hall <hall.jeff(at)gmail.com>; Jerome Payne <jerome777(at)ymail.com>; Justin Card <justin(at)darkenedpath.com>; Mark Smith <markjsmith60(at)gmail.com>; Matt Kremer <kremer.matthew(at)gmail.com>; Michael Penner <mvpenner(at)yahoo.com>; Michael Sims <mike(at)fuzzylogicllc.net>; Pat.C C <patrickcharlescloutier(at)hotmail.com>; Philip Hahn <philip.a.hahn(at)gmail.com>; "psychosis(at)sky.com" <psychosis(at)sky.com>; René Krøll <rk(at)giorsoine.dk>; Rolf Loschek <rolfloschek(at)yahoo.de>; tim.diplomacy <tim.diplomacy(at)gmail.com>; Warren Fleming <alwayshunted(at)hotmail.com>
Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2012 1:39 AM
Subject: Re: Spring 11 Final!!! (And Draw Proposals) 24-hour warning!!!!
---------
"Sit Long, Talk Much, Laugh Often" -- anon
"Shared Pain is lessened, Shared Joy is increased" --- Spider Robinson


On Fri, Sep 14, 2012 at 3:28 PM, Mike Hoffman <mrh(at)panix.com> wrote:Hi All,Retreats have been processed, and the map and move results from Spring corrected to accomodate Spi S Drag.  Maps for Spring are included, as are maps for Final.  Several Draw proposals this turn.   Proposal 1:  Ogre Solo Proposal 2: Ogre, Undead, Dwarf Draw Proposal 3: Ogre, Dwarf, Knight Draw If you voted publicly already, THOSE VOTES DO NOT COUNT.  All votes MUST be sent to me privately. Send in votes with Fall moves.  If I receive 100% YES votes for a proposal, I will end the game without processing. Fall Deadline is Wednesday 9/19 (I'd do Thursday, but that's my anniversary and the wife has priority over Dip Smile ) Retreats for Spring 11=====================Faeries: F Grimheim - RanaarF Kingdom of Hearts - Strawberry Fields Gnomes: A Troldhaugen - Cave of Ordeals Leprechauns: F THE MAW - Ansalon Ogres: A Lubrick - MerrowA Cyriss - Moominvalley Pirates: disband F Sorrows Enddisband F WAY THE HECK ---------
"Sit Long, Talk Much, Laugh Often" -- anon
"Shared Pain is lessened, Shared Joy is increased" --- Spider Robinson  


--
It is better to be silent and thought a fool than to speak and remove all doubt
-Abraham Lincoln

The problem with Internet quotes is that you can never be certain of their accuracy
-Abraham Lincoln


 
DC-406 Spam (but you should read this!) (dc406) offdisc Sep 25, 06:20 pm
Thanks for keeping us in check, GM! Smile


On Tue, Sep 25, 2012 at 4:23 PM, Michael Sims <mike(at)fuzzylogicllc.com> wrote:

Don't you just love congratulatory threads that aren't cc'd to the congratulate-ee?  Adding Dirk to this.  And. Congrats!!  Looking good.
-mike 
From: Mike Hoffman [mailto:mrh(at)panix.com]

Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2012 4:32 PM
To: Jeff Hall
Subject: Re: DC-406 Spam (but you should read this!) 
As a former games reviewer, I know how tricky designing and developing a game can be. Hoo Boy! I have never envied the game designer, but I sure as hell respect the good ones. So many things can go wrong: are dice too unpredictable/predictable? Are the powers aligned evenly enough? Are the cards too complicated? Even the smallest issue can doom a game to the bottom of the reviewer's closet --- and the simplest games can end up being the most successful. Who doesn't grin when they see Connect4 sitting on a shelf? Imagine if the designer had added an 8th column, or even just laid it flat on a board instead of the cool "make it rain" emptying effect?


Congrats on your success Dirk!!! I know how hard you worked for it!

Mike
---------
"Sit Long, Talk Much, Laugh Often" -- anon
"Shared Pain is lessened, Shared Joy is increased" --- Spider Robinson



On Tue, Sep 25, 2012 at 1:45 PM, Jeff Hall <hall.jeff(at)gmail.com> wrote:
I'm so jealous of people that design games for a living... I KNOW (on an intellectual level) that it's not as "fun" as it sounds... but c'mon!! I look at spreadsheets all day... the closest I've come to fun is building tetris in excel while I was bored for 6 hours in an airport (for the record, anyone who complains about "poor collision detection" in video games hasn't tried to cobble together collision detection from excel borders Wink


I say good on you Dirk!

On Tue, Sep 25, 2012 at 3:31 PM, Jason K <githraine(at)yahoo.com> wrote:
Hey all, one of our fellow Dip Masters is living the dream.
 Dirk Knemeyer has a small board game design company, and his second game is the Highlighted project on Kickstarter.
He reached and surpassed his funding level today.  Check it out!
 http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1893407396/the-new-science?ref=home_spotlight
 and the rest of his games (published and in work):
http://conquistador-games.myshopify.com
 Ok, spam over.
 
From: Mike Hoffman <mrh(at)panix.com>

To: Maxatrest(at)yahoo.co.uk; Chris Bender <cbend37(at)aol.com>; Christopher Martin <dance.scholar(at)gmail.com>; dc406 <dc406(at)diplomaticcorp.com>; Garry Bledsoe <kielmarch(at)hotmail.com>; Hamish Williams <catsfather(at)gmail.com>; Jason K <githraine(at)yahoo.com>; Jeff Hall <hall.jeff(at)gmail.com>; Jerome Payne <jerome777(at)ymail.com>; Justin Card <justin(at)darkenedpath.com>; Mark Smith <markjsmith60(at)gmail.com>; Matt Kremer <kremer.matthew(at)gmail.com>; Michael Penner <mvpenner(at)yahoo.com>; Michael Sims <mike(at)fuzzylogicllc.net>; Pat.C C <patrickcharlescloutier(at)hotmail.com>; Philip Hahn <philip.a.hahn(at)gmail.com>; "psychosis(at)sky.com" <psychosis(at)sky.com>; René Krøll <rk(at)giorsoine.dk>; Rolf Loschek <rolfloschek(at)yahoo.de>; tim.diplomacy <tim.diplomacy(at)gmail.com>; Warren Fleming <alwayshunted(at)hotmail.com>

Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2012 1:39 AM
Subject: Re: Spring 11 Final!!! (And Draw Proposals) 
24-hour warning!!!!
---------
"Sit Long, Talk Much, Laugh Often" -- anon
"Shared Pain is lessened, Shared Joy is increased" --- Spider Robinson



On Fri, Sep 14, 2012 at 3:28 PM, Mike Hoffman <mrh(at)panix.com> wrote:Hi All,
Retreats have been processed, and the map and move results from Spring corrected to accomodate Spi S Drag.  Maps for Spring are included, as are maps for Final.  
Several Draw proposals this turn.   Proposal 1:  Ogre Solo
 Proposal 2: Ogre, Undead, Dwarf Draw Proposal 3: Ogre, Dwarf, Knight Draw
 If you voted publicly already, THOSE VOTES DO NOT COUNT.  All votes MUST be sent to me privately. 
Send in votes with Fall moves.  If I receive 100% YES votes for a proposal, I will end the game without processing. Fall Deadline is Wednesday 9/19 (I'd do Thursday, but that's my anniversary and the wife has priority over Dip Smile )
 Retreats for Spring 11=====================
Faeries: F Grimheim - RanaarF Kingdom of Hearts - Strawberry Fields 
Gnomes: A Troldhaugen - Cave of Ordeals 
Leprechauns: F THE MAW - Ansalon Ogres: 
A Lubrick - MerrowA Cyriss - Moominvalley Pirates: 
disband F Sorrows Enddisband F WAY THE HECK 
---------
"Sit Long, Talk Much, Laugh Often" -- anon
"Shared Pain is lessened, Shared Joy is increased" --- Spider Robinson
  



--
It is better to be silent and thought a fool than to speak and remove all doubt

-Abraham Lincoln

The problem with Internet quotes is that you can never be certain of their accuracy
-Abraham Lincoln



 
DC-406 Spam (but you should read this!) (dc406) offdisc Sep 25, 06:21 pm
Oh, wait... I'm the GM in *this* game. 
Hmmmm...
Smile


On Tue, Sep 25, 2012 at 5:20 PM, Mike Hoffman <mrh(at)panix.com> wrote:

Thanks for keeping us in check, GM! Smile



On Tue, Sep 25, 2012 at 4:23 PM, Michael Sims <mike(at)fuzzylogicllc.com> wrote:

Don't you just love congratulatory threads that aren't cc'd to the congratulate-ee?  Adding Dirk to this.  And. Congrats!!  Looking good.
-mike 
From: Mike Hoffman [mailto:mrh(at)panix.com]

Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2012 4:32 PM
To: Jeff Hall
Subject: Re: DC-406 Spam (but you should read this!) 
As a former games reviewer, I know how tricky designing and developing a game can be. Hoo Boy! I have never envied the game designer, but I sure as hell respect the good ones. So many things can go wrong: are dice too unpredictable/predictable? Are the powers aligned evenly enough? Are the cards too complicated? Even the smallest issue can doom a game to the bottom of the reviewer's closet --- and the simplest games can end up being the most successful. Who doesn't grin when they see Connect4 sitting on a shelf? Imagine if the designer had added an 8th column, or even just laid it flat on a board instead of the cool "make it rain" emptying effect?


Congrats on your success Dirk!!! I know how hard you worked for it!

Mike
---------
"Sit Long, Talk Much, Laugh Often" -- anon
"Shared Pain is lessened, Shared Joy is increased" --- Spider Robinson



On Tue, Sep 25, 2012 at 1:45 PM, Jeff Hall <hall.jeff(at)gmail.com> wrote:
I'm so jealous of people that design games for a living... I KNOW (on an intellectual level) that it's not as "fun" as it sounds... but c'mon!! I look at spreadsheets all day... the closest I've come to fun is building tetris in excel while I was bored for 6 hours in an airport (for the record, anyone who complains about "poor collision detection" in video games hasn't tried to cobble together collision detection from excel borders Wink


I say good on you Dirk!

On Tue, Sep 25, 2012 at 3:31 PM, Jason K <githraine(at)yahoo.com> wrote:
Hey all, one of our fellow Dip Masters is living the dream.
 Dirk Knemeyer has a small board game design company, and his second game is the Highlighted project on Kickstarter.
He reached and surpassed his funding level today.  Check it out!
 http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1893407396/the-new-science?ref=home_spotlight
 and the rest of his games (published and in work):
http://conquistador-games.myshopify.com
 Ok, spam over.
 
From: Mike Hoffman <mrh(at)panix.com>

To: Maxatrest(at)yahoo.co.uk; Chris Bender <cbend37(at)aol.com>; Christopher Martin <dance.scholar(at)gmail.com>; dc406 <dc406(at)diplomaticcorp.com>; Garry Bledsoe <kielmarch(at)hotmail.com>; Hamish Williams <catsfather(at)gmail.com>; Jason K <githraine(at)yahoo.com>; Jeff Hall <hall.jeff(at)gmail.com>; Jerome Payne <jerome777(at)ymail.com>; Justin Card <justin(at)darkenedpath.com>; Mark Smith <markjsmith60(at)gmail.com>; Matt Kremer <kremer.matthew(at)gmail.com>; Michael Penner <mvpenner(at)yahoo.com>; Michael Sims <mike(at)fuzzylogicllc.net>; Pat.C C <patrickcharlescloutier(at)hotmail.com>; Philip Hahn <philip.a.hahn(at)gmail.com>; "psychosis(at)sky.com" <psychosis(at)sky.com>; René Krøll <rk(at)giorsoine.dk>; Rolf Loschek <rolfloschek(at)yahoo.de>; tim.diplomacy <tim.diplomacy(at)gmail.com>; Warren Fleming <alwayshunted(at)hotmail.com>

Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2012 1:39 AM
Subject: Re: Spring 11 Final!!! (And Draw Proposals) 
24-hour warning!!!!
---------
"Sit Long, Talk Much, Laugh Often" -- anon
"Shared Pain is lessened, Shared Joy is increased" --- Spider Robinson



On Fri, Sep 14, 2012 at 3:28 PM, Mike Hoffman <mrh(at)panix.com> wrote:Hi All,
Retreats have been processed, and the map and move results from Spring corrected to accomodate Spi S Drag.  Maps for Spring are included, as are maps for Final.  
Several Draw proposals this turn.   Proposal 1:  Ogre Solo
 Proposal 2: Ogre, Undead, Dwarf Draw Proposal 3: Ogre, Dwarf, Knight Draw
 If you voted publicly already, THOSE VOTES DO NOT COUNT.  All votes MUST be sent to me privately. 
Send in votes with Fall moves.  If I receive 100% YES votes for a proposal, I will end the game without processing. Fall Deadline is Wednesday 9/19 (I'd do Thursday, but that's my anniversary and the wife has priority over Dip Smile )
 Retreats for Spring 11=====================
Faeries: F Grimheim - RanaarF Kingdom of Hearts - Strawberry Fields 
Gnomes: A Troldhaugen - Cave of Ordeals 
Leprechauns: F THE MAW - Ansalon Ogres: 
A Lubrick - MerrowA Cyriss - Moominvalley Pirates: 
disband F Sorrows Enddisband F WAY THE HECK 
---------
"Sit Long, Talk Much, Laugh Often" -- anon
"Shared Pain is lessened, Shared Joy is increased" --- Spider Robinson
  



--
It is better to be silent and thought a fool than to speak and remove all doubt

-Abraham Lincoln

The problem with Internet quotes is that you can never be certain of their accuracy
-Abraham Lincoln



 
DC-406 Spam (but you should read this!) (dc406) Githraine Sep 25, 06:52 pm
Lol, I did notice that.I did not expect all the in-stream congrats...  Just meant it as an FYI.But my office is buzzing about these games!

Sent from my iPod
On Sep 25, 2012, at 6:23 PM, "Michael Sims" <mike(at)fuzzylogicllc.com> wrote:


Don???t you just love congratulatory threads that aren???t cc???d to the congratulate-ee?  Adding Dirk to this.  And??? Congrats!!  Looking good???-mike From: Mike Hoffman [mailto:mrh(at)panix.com]
Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2012 4:32 PM
To: Jeff Hall
Subject: Re: DC-406 Spam (but you should read this!) As a former games reviewer, I know how tricky designing and developing a game can be. Hoo Boy! I have never envied the game designer, but I sure as hell respect the good ones. So many things can go wrong: are dice too unpredictable/predictable? Are the powers aligned evenly enough? Are the cards too complicated? Even the smallest issue can doom a game to the bottom of the reviewer's closet --- and the simplest games can end up being the most successful. Who doesn't grin when they see Connect4 sitting on a shelf? Imagine if the designer had added an 8th column, or even just laid it flat on a board instead of the cool "make it rain" emptying effect?

Congrats on your success Dirk!!! I know how hard you worked for it!

Mike
---------
"Sit Long, Talk Much, Laugh Often" -- anon
"Shared Pain is lessened, Shared Joy is increased" --- Spider Robinson


On Tue, Sep 25, 2012 at 1:45 PM, Jeff Hall <hall.jeff(at)gmail.com> wrote:I'm so jealous of people that design games for a living... I KNOW (on an intellectual level) that it's not as "fun" as it sounds... but c'mon!! I look at spreadsheets all day... the closest I've come to fun is building tetris in excel while I was bored for 6 hours in an airport (for the record, anyone who complains about "poor collision detection" in video games hasn't tried to cobble together collision detection from excel borders Wink

I say good on you Dirk!

On Tue, Sep 25, 2012 at 3:31 PM, Jason K <githraine(at)yahoo.com> wrote:Hey all, one of our fellow Dip Masters is living the dream. Dirk Knemeyer has a small board game design company, and his second game is the Highlighted project on Kickstarter.He reached and surpassed his funding level today.  Check it out! http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1893407396/the-new-science?ref=home_spotlight and the rest of his games (published and in work):http://conquistador-games.myshopify.com Ok, spam over. From: Mike Hoffman <mrh(at)panix.com>
To: Maxatrest(at)yahoo.co.uk; Chris Bender <cbend37(at)aol.com>; Christopher Martin <dance.scholar(at)gmail.com>; dc406 <dc406(at)diplomaticcorp.com>; Garry Bledsoe <kielmarch(at)hotmail.com>; Hamish Williams <catsfather(at)gmail.com>; Jason K <githraine(at)yahoo.com>; Jeff Hall <hall.jeff(at)gmail.com>; Jerome Payne <jerome777(at)ymail.com>; Justin Card <justin(at)darkenedpath.com>; Mark Smith <markjsmith60(at)gmail.com>; Matt Kremer <kremer.matthew(at)gmail.com>; Michael Penner <mvpenner(at)yahoo.com>; Michael Sims <mike(at)fuzzylogicllc.net>; Pat.C C <patrickcharlescloutier(at)hotmail.com>; Philip Hahn <philip.a.hahn(at)gmail.com>; "psychosis(at)sky.com" <psychosis(at)sky.com>; Ren?? Kr??ll <rk(at)giorsoine.dk>; Rolf Loschek <rolfloschek(at)yahoo.de>; tim.diplomacy <tim.diplomacy(at)gmail.com>; Warren Fleming <alwayshunted(at)hotmail.com>
Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2012 1:39 AM
Subject: Re: Spring 11 Final!!! (And Draw Proposals) 24-hour warning!!!!
---------
"Sit Long, Talk Much, Laugh Often" -- anon
"Shared Pain is lessened, Shared Joy is increased" --- Spider Robinson


On Fri, Sep 14, 2012 at 3:28 PM, Mike Hoffman <mrh(at)panix.com> wrote:Hi All,Retreats have been processed, and the map and move results from Spring corrected to accomodate Spi S Drag.  Maps for Spring are included, as are maps for Final.  Several Draw proposals this turn.   Proposal 1:  Ogre Solo Proposal 2: Ogre, Undead, Dwarf Draw Proposal 3: Ogre, Dwarf, Knight Draw If you voted publicly already, THOSE VOTES DO NOT COUNT.  All votes MUST be sent to me privately. Send in votes with Fall moves.  If I receive 100% YES votes for a proposal, I will end the game without processing. Fall Deadline is Wednesday 9/19 (I'd do Thursday, but that's my anniversary and the wife has priority over Dip Smile ) Retreats for Spring 11=====================Faeries: F Grimheim - RanaarF Kingdom of Hearts - Strawberry Fields Gnomes: A Troldhaugen - Cave of Ordeals Leprechauns: F THE MAW - Ansalon Ogres: A Lubrick - MerrowA Cyriss - Moominvalley Pirates: disband F Sorrows Enddisband F WAY THE HECK ---------
"Sit Long, Talk Much, Laugh Often" -- anon
"Shared Pain is lessened, Shared Joy is increased" --- Spider Robinson  


--
It is better to be silent and thought a fool than to speak and remove all doubt
-Abraham Lincoln

The problem with Internet quotes is that you can never be certain of their accuracy
-Abraham Lincoln


 
DC-406 Spam (but you should read this!) (dc406) dknemeyer Sep 25, 06:57 pm
Thanks Guys.
Jeff, in game design you spend more time in Excel than anywhere else. Sobering, no?!
Dirk

On Sep 25, 2012, at 7:21 PM, Mike Hoffman wrote:
Oh, wait... I'm the GM in *this* game. 
Hmmmm...
Smile


On Tue, Sep 25, 2012 at 5:20 PM, Mike Hoffman <mrh(at)panix.com> wrote:

Thanks for keeping us in check, GM! Smile



On Tue, Sep 25, 2012 at 4:23 PM, Michael Sims <mike(at)fuzzylogicllc.com> wrote:

Don't you just love congratulatory threads that aren't cc'd to the congratulate-ee?  Adding Dirk to this.  And. Congrats!!  Looking good.-mike 
From: Mike Hoffman [mailto:mrh(at)panix.com]

Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2012 4:32 PM
To: Jeff Hall
Subject: Re: DC-406 Spam (but you should read this!) 
As a former games reviewer, I know how tricky designing and developing a game can be. Hoo Boy! I have never envied the game designer, but I sure as hell respect the good ones. So many things can go wrong: are dice too unpredictable/predictable? Are the powers aligned evenly enough? Are the cards too complicated? Even the smallest issue can doom a game to the bottom of the reviewer's closet --- and the simplest games can end up being the most successful. Who doesn't grin when they see Connect4 sitting on a shelf? Imagine if the designer had added an 8th column, or even just laid it flat on a board instead of the cool "make it rain" emptying effect?


Congrats on your success Dirk!!! I know how hard you worked for it!

Mike
---------
"Sit Long, Talk Much, Laugh Often" -- anon
"Shared Pain is lessened, Shared Joy is increased" --- Spider Robinson



On Tue, Sep 25, 2012 at 1:45 PM, Jeff Hall <hall.jeff(at)gmail.com> wrote:
I'm so jealous of people that design games for a living... I KNOW (on an intellectual level) that it's not as "fun" as it sounds... but c'mon!! I look at spreadsheets all day... the closest I've come to fun is building tetris in excel while I was bored for 6 hours in an airport (for the record, anyone who complains about "poor collision detection" in video games hasn't tried to cobble together collision detection from excel borders Wink


I say good on you Dirk!

On Tue, Sep 25, 2012 at 3:31 PM, Jason K <githraine(at)yahoo.com> wrote:
Hey all, one of our fellow Dip Masters is living the dream.
 Dirk Knemeyer has a small board game design company, and his second game is the Highlighted project on Kickstarter.
He reached and surpassed his funding level today.  Check it out!
 http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1893407396/the-new-science?ref=home_spotlight
 and the rest of his games (published and in work):
http://conquistador-games.myshopify.com
 Ok, spam over.
 
From: Mike Hoffman <mrh(at)panix.com>

To: Maxatrest(at)yahoo.co.uk; Chris Bender <cbend37(at)aol.com>; Christopher Martin <dance.scholar(at)gmail.com>; dc406 <dc406(at)diplomaticcorp.com>; Garry Bledsoe <kielmarch(at)hotmail.com>; Hamish Williams <catsfather(at)gmail.com>; Jason K <githraine(at)yahoo.com>; Jeff Hall <hall.jeff(at)gmail.com>; Jerome Payne <jerome777(at)ymail.com>; Justin Card <justin(at)darkenedpath.com>; Mark Smith <markjsmith60(at)gmail.com>; Matt Kremer <kremer.matthew(at)gmail.com>; Michael Penner <mvpenner(at)yahoo.com>; Michael Sims <mike(at)fuzzylogicllc.net>; Pat.C C <patrickcharlescloutier(at)hotmail.com>; Philip Hahn <philip.a.hahn(at)gmail.com>; "psychosis(at)sky.com" <psychosis(at)sky.com>; René Krøll <rk(at)giorsoine.dk>; Rolf Loschek <rolfloschek(at)yahoo.de>; tim.diplomacy <tim.diplomacy(at)gmail.com>; Warren Fleming <alwayshunted(at)hotmail.com>

Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2012 1:39 AM
Subject: Re: Spring 11 Final!!! (And Draw Proposals) 
24-hour warning!!!!
---------
"Sit Long, Talk Much, Laugh Often" -- anon
"Shared Pain is lessened, Shared Joy is increased" --- Spider Robinson



On Fri, Sep 14, 2012 at 3:28 PM, Mike Hoffman <mrh(at)panix.com> wrote:Hi All,
Retreats have been processed, and the map and move results from Spring corrected to accomodate Spi S Drag.  Maps for Spring are included, as are maps for Final.  
Several Draw proposals this turn.   Proposal 1:  Ogre Solo
 Proposal 2: Ogre, Undead, Dwarf Draw Proposal 3: Ogre, Dwarf, Knight Draw
 If you voted publicly already, THOSE VOTES DO NOT COUNT.  All votes MUST be sent to me privately. 
Send in votes with Fall moves.  If I receive 100% YES votes for a proposal, I will end the game without processing. Fall Deadline is Wednesday 9/19 (I'd do Thursday, but that's my anniversary and the wife has priority over Dip Smile )
 Retreats for Spring 11=====================
Faeries: F Grimheim - RanaarF Kingdom of Hearts - Strawberry Fields 
Gnomes: A Troldhaugen - Cave of Ordeals 
Leprechauns: F THE MAW - Ansalon Ogres: 
A Lubrick - MerrowA Cyriss - Moominvalley Pirates: 
disband F Sorrows Enddisband F WAY THE HECK 
---------
"Sit Long, Talk Much, Laugh Often" -- anon
"Shared Pain is lessened, Shared Joy is increased" --- Spider Robinson
  



--
It is better to be silent and thought a fool than to speak and remove all doubt

-Abraham Lincoln

The problem with Internet quotes is that you can never be certain of their accuracy
-Abraham Lincoln


 
DC406: Fall 11 archer eog! - pieandmash   (Sep 22, 2012, 10:42 am)
I was excited about this game, an all star line up and an updated map. Alas 2 v 1 from the go and no support from my 'allies' bode ill. I enjoyed frustrating my gnome pirate antagonists, but very frustrated with lack of help. Still thats the game. Good luck, my money is on the ogres

Sent from my XperiaT S

Mike Hoffman <mrh(at)panix.com> wrote:

Hi All,The American Football season is upon us. And in 2 weeks, we have some surprises, both positive and negative -- and some absolutely breathtaking failures. Isn't it funny that when the expected worst shine it's big news, but when the expected best collapse, it is COLOSSAL! 

If the Nomads pull off a victory here, it will rock the Dip World; but, if the Ogres fail to win, it will be small print. Seriously though, without revealing the overall votes, the results of the Draw Proposals have this game shaping up as a major throwdown between Team Knights and Team Ogres, with the multi-personality dwarf sitting on both sides of the fence. Good Luck all, this will be a race to the finish!

In the meantime, let's raise our glasses in a toast to Max/Archers. He has pulled his last bowstring. Thanks for playing!
Retreats are inVery Happywarves: 
A Dragons Teeth Mtns - Land of SweetsF CHOCOLATE RIVER - Ella
Faeries: F The Silver city - POOL OF RADIANCE
Leprechauns: F Ansalon - Ithin'Carthia(wc)
F Tuatha - MyrtleA Hoarluk - Uuno
Send new Draw proposals now!  Voting will be with the Spring moves.
Winter Deadline is Tuesday 9/25.

Adjustments=============Matt RyanVery Happywarves:     Supp 25 Unit 20 Build  5 Knights:     Supp 22 Unit 16 Build  6 Nomads:      Supp  2 Unit  1 Build  1 
Ogres:       Supp 35 Unit 28 Build  7 Undead:      Supp  4 Unit  3 Build  1 
Cam Newton:Archers:     Supp  0 Unit  1 Remove  1Faeries:     Supp  2 Unit  7 Remove  5 
Leprechauns: Supp  1 Unit  4 Remove  3 Pirates:     Supp  5 Unit 10 Remove  5 
Tim Tebow:Gnomes:      Supp  2 Unit  2 Build  0 
Magicians:   Supp  4 Unit  4 Build  0 
Sean Payton:Barbarians:  Supp  0 Unit  0 Build  0 Centaurs:    Supp  0 Unit  0 Build  0 
Elves:       Supp  0 Unit  0 Build  0 Hobbits:     Supp  0 Unit  0 Build  0 Rogues:      Supp  0 Unit  0 Build  0 Samurai:     Supp  0 Unit  0 Build  0 Trolls:      Supp  0 Unit  0 Build  0 
Wizards:     Supp  0 Unit  0 Build  0 
Thanks,Mike---------
"Sit Long, Talk Much, Laugh Often" -- anon
"Shared Pain is lessened, Shared Joy is increased" --- Spider Robinson

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DC406: Fall 11 Final! - offdisc   (Sep 22, 2012, 10:17 am)
Hi All,The American Football season is upon us. And in 2 weeks, we have some surprises, both positive and negative -- and some absolutely breathtaking failures. Isn't it funny that when the expected worst shine it's big news, but when the expected best collapse, it is COLOSSAL! 

If the Nomads pull off a victory here, it will rock the Dip World; but, if the Ogres fail to win, it will be small print. Seriously though, without revealing the overall votes, the results of the Draw Proposals have this game shaping up as a major throwdown between Team Knights and Team Ogres, with the multi-personality dwarf sitting on both sides of the fence. Good Luck all, this will be a race to the finish!

In the meantime, let's raise our glasses in a toast to Max/Archers. He has pulled his last bowstring. Thanks for playing!
Retreats are inVery Happywarves: 
A Dragons Teeth Mtns - Land of SweetsF CHOCOLATE RIVER - Ella
Faeries: F The Silver city - POOL OF RADIANCE
Leprechauns: F Ansalon - Ithin'Carthia(wc)
F Tuatha - MyrtleA Hoarluk - Uuno
Send new Draw proposals now!  Voting will be with the Spring moves.
Winter Deadline is Tuesday 9/25.

Adjustments=============Matt RyanVery Happywarves:     Supp 25 Unit 20 Build  5 Knights:     Supp 22 Unit 16 Build  6 Nomads:      Supp  2 Unit  1 Build  1 
Ogres:       Supp 35 Unit 28 Build  7 Undead:      Supp  4 Unit  3 Build  1 
Cam Newton:Archers:     Supp  0 Unit  1 Remove  1Faeries:     Supp  2 Unit  7 Remove  5 
Leprechauns: Supp  1 Unit  4 Remove  3 Pirates:     Supp  5 Unit 10 Remove  5 
Tim Tebow:Gnomes:      Supp  2 Unit  2 Build  0 
Magicians:   Supp  4 Unit  4 Build  0 
Sean Payton:Barbarians:  Supp  0 Unit  0 Build  0 Centaurs:    Supp  0 Unit  0 Build  0 
Elves:       Supp  0 Unit  0 Build  0 Hobbits:     Supp  0 Unit  0 Build  0 Rogues:      Supp  0 Unit  0 Build  0 Samurai:     Supp  0 Unit  0 Build  0 Trolls:      Supp  0 Unit  0 Build  0 
Wizards:     Supp  0 Unit  0 Build  0 
Thanks,Mike---------
"Sit Long, Talk Much, Laugh Often" -- anon
"Shared Pain is lessened, Shared Joy is increased" --- Spider Robinson

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DC406: Fall 11 Results! - offdisc   (Sep 20, 2012, 2:15 pm)
Hi All,Like the current election, early polls showed a wide lead for the Ogre Solo, but then the Ogre/Dwarf/Knight draw stole votes. The draw involving the Undead was the Ross Perot / Ron Paul of the election.


In the end, though, all draws failed due to an NMR by the Gnomes. 
Adjustments for Fall 11, DEADLINE Friday 9/21=================Dwarves: 
A Dragons Teeth Mtns -> Swe, Khaz, or OTBF CHOCOLATE RIVER -> Ella, NMO, or OTB
Faeries: F The Silver city -> PoR, or OTB

Leprechauns: F Ansalon -> Ith(ec), Ith(wc), Stx, or OTB F Tuatha -> Myr, or OTB A Hoarluk -> Pow, Uuno, Twi, or OTB 


Results for Fall 11==============Archers: A Westmark Hold
Dwarves: F Ella - OzF Fantastica - DulocF The Neverwood Supports F The High Way - Pans Labyrinth
F Ashan Supports F TILVA STRAIT - BEAVERSDAM (*Cut*)A Sorrows End Supports A Yggdrasil - Cave of OrdealsF Never Never Land - HIGH SEAS (*Fails*)F Myth Drannor - Cliffs of Insanity
A The Julianthes - Walk of CloudsF Lost Woods(sc) - Ergoth (*Fails*)A Dragons Teeth Mtns - Kingdom of Hearts (*Dislodged*)A Daisy Meadows Supports F Ella - OzA Tymwyvenne Supports A Yggdrasil - Cave of Ordeals
A Knurremurre HoldA Yggdrasil - Cave of OrdealsA Ancient Necropolis Supports A Neverpeak MtnF TILVA STRAIT - BEAVERSDAM (*Bounce*)F WEST MIRIANIC OCEAN Convoys A The Julianthes - Walk of Clouds
F EAST MIRIANIC OCEAN - RUGGED COASTF CHOCOLATE RIVER - Vinyaya (*Dislodged*)F RUGGED COAST - Llyr
Faeries: F Vinyaya - CHOCOLATE RIVERA Oz - Vinyaya
F The Silver city - Ashan (*Dislodged*)A Gurgi - Acme AcresA Kender - Corona (*Bounce*)F Strawberry Fields Supports F Vinyaya - CHOCOLATE RIVERF Ranaar Supports F CELESTIAL DELTA - Grimheim (*Void*)

Gnomes: A Hundred Acre Wood, no move receivedA Avalon, no move receivedA Cave of Ordeals, no move received (*Disbanded*)
Knights: A Khemri Supports F SABLES SWAMP - Daniloth
A Wing Hove Supports A Ice ReachA Fionavar - Dragons Teeth MtnsF Troldhaugen Supports F SABLES SWAMP - DanilothF Orboros Supports F BEAVERSDAM - The Silver cityA Ice Reach Hold
A Kingdom of Hearts Supports A Fionavar - Dragons Teeth MtnsA Gwynir Supports A Andarien Plain - StarkadhA Andarien Plain - StarkadhA River Saeren Supports A Kingdom of Hearts
F Land of Sweets - GurgiF CELESTIAL DELTA Supports F Land of Sweets - GurgiF SUNLESS SEA - BEAVERSDAM (*Bounce*)F BEAVERSDAM - The Silver cityF SABLES SWAMP - Daniloth
F TROG BOG Supports F Troldhaugen
Leprechauns: A Lubrick Supports F TuathaF Ansalon - WAY THE HECK (*Dislodged*)F Tuatha Supports A Lubrick (*Dislodged*)
A Hoarluk Supports A Lubrick (*Dislodged*)
Magicians: A Tarsis Supports F WEST SEA OF SHADOWS - ErgothF Krynn - WEST SEA OF SHADOWSA Cyriss Supports F WEST SEA OF SHADOWS - Ergoth
F WEST SEA OF SHADOWS - Ergoth
Nomads: A Spiral Castle Supports A Dragons Teeth Mtns (*Ordered to Move*)
Ogres: A Mordor - RivendellF Knockshegowna Supports F Allerleirauh - BIKINI BOTTOM
A Fitzgibbon Supports A Merrow - TuathaF Grimheim Supports F AshanA Magrathea - FjordA Kahvi - NiflheimA Everglot Supports A SkellingtonF Fafhrd(ec) - Hoarluk
F Whoville Supports F Fafhrd(ec) - HoarlukF Candlekeep - MordorA Neverpeak Mtn HoldA Moominvalley - The Silver city (*Fails*)A Merrow - TuathaA Great Steppes Supports A Fitzgibbon
F Allerleirauh - BIKINI BOTTOMA Uuno - FafhrdA Heresh - AllerleirauhA Nowwhat - Venatori UmbrarumA Golgafrincham - LindonF The High Way - Pans Labyrinth
F Daniloth - Newa RiverF THON THALAS Supports F Daniloth - Newa RiverF WAY THE HECK Supports F THE MAW - AnsalonF THE MAW - AnsalonF THUNDERHEAD Supports A Merrow - Tuatha
F RIFT CANYON - FantasticaF THREE RIVER LAKE - GelflingF SEA OF FALLEN STARS - Enchanted Isles
Pirates: A Prydain HoldA Grendel HoldA Slightly Gulch Hold
A Plains of Dust HoldA Critter Country HoldF GRIEF REEF HoldF HIGH SEAS HoldF MERMAIDS LAGOON HoldF HORNED BAY HoldF BABEL BEACH Hold

Undead: A Skellington HoldA Palmaris - Corona (*Bounce*)F EAST SEA OF SHADOWS Supports F Lost Woods(sc) - Ergoth

Thanks,Mike
---------
"Sit Long, Talk Much, Laugh Often" -- anon
"Shared Pain is lessened, Shared Joy is increased" --- Spider Robinson

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Spring 11 Final!!! (And Draw Proposals) - offdisc   (Sep 19, 2012, 12:39 am)
24-hour warning!!!!
---------
"Sit Long, Talk Much, Laugh Often" -- anon
"Shared Pain is lessened, Shared Joy is increased" --- Spider Robinson




On Fri, Sep 14, 2012 at 3:28 PM, Mike Hoffman <mrh(at)panix.com> wrote:

Hi All,Retreats have been processed, and the map and move results from Spring corrected to accomodate Spi S Drag.  Maps for Spring are included, as are maps for Final. 
Several Draw proposals this turn.  

Proposal 1:  Ogre Solo
Proposal 2: Ogre, Undead, Dwarf Draw
Proposal 3: Ogre, Dwarf, Knight Draw
If you voted publicly already, THOSE VOTES DO NOT COUNT.  All votes MUST be sent to me privately. 
Send in votes with Fall moves.  If I receive 100% YES votes for a proposal, I will end the game without processing.
Fall Deadline is Wednesday 9/19 (I'd do Thursday, but that's my anniversary and the wife has priority over Dip Smile )

Retreats for Spring 11=====================Faeries: F Grimheim - RanaarF Kingdom of Hearts - Strawberry Fields
Gnomes: A Troldhaugen - Cave of Ordeals

Leprechauns: F THE MAW - Ansalon
Ogres: A Lubrick - MerrowA Cyriss - Moominvalley
Pirates: disband F Sorrows End
disband F WAY THE HECK
---------
"Sit Long, Talk Much, Laugh Often" -- anon
"Shared Pain is lessened, Shared Joy is increased" --- Spider Robinson

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Spring 11 Final!!! (And Draw Proposals) - DancingQueen   (Sep 14, 2012, 4:39 pm)
All units hold, yes to all draws.  I will send this to you privately also.
DQ

On Fri, Sep 14, 2012 at 5:28 PM, Mike Hoffman <mrh(at)panix.com> wrote:

Hi All,Retreats have been processed, and the map and move results from Spring corrected to accomodate Spi S Drag.  Maps for Spring are included, as are maps for Final. 

Several Draw proposals this turn.  

Proposal 1:  Ogre Solo
Proposal 2: Ogre, Undead, Dwarf Draw
Proposal 3: Ogre, Dwarf, Knight Draw
If you voted publicly already, THOSE VOTES DO NOT COUNT.  All votes MUST be sent to me privately. 

Send in votes with Fall moves.  If I receive 100% YES votes for a proposal, I will end the game without processing.
Fall Deadline is Wednesday 9/19 (I'd do Thursday, but that's my anniversary and the wife has priority over Dip Smile )


Retreats for Spring 11=====================Faeries: F Grimheim - RanaarF Kingdom of Hearts - Strawberry Fields
Gnomes: A Troldhaugen - Cave of Ordeals


Leprechauns: F THE MAW - Ansalon
Ogres: A Lubrick - MerrowA Cyriss - Moominvalley
Pirates: disband F Sorrows End

disband F WAY THE HECK
---------
"Sit Long, Talk Much, Laugh Often" -- anon
"Shared Pain is lessened, Shared Joy is increased" --- Spider Robinson

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Spring 11 Final!!! (And Draw Proposals) - offdisc   (Sep 14, 2012, 4:28 pm)
Hi All,Retreats have been processed, and the map and move results from Spring corrected to accomodate Spi S Drag.  Maps for Spring are included, as are maps for Final. 
Several Draw proposals this turn.  

Proposal 1:  Ogre Solo
Proposal 2: Ogre, Undead, Dwarf Draw
Proposal 3: Ogre, Dwarf, Knight Draw
If you voted publicly already, THOSE VOTES DO NOT COUNT.  All votes MUST be sent to me privately. 
Send in votes with Fall moves.  If I receive 100% YES votes for a proposal, I will end the game without processing.
Fall Deadline is Wednesday 9/19 (I'd do Thursday, but that's my anniversary and the wife has priority over Dip Smile )

Retreats for Spring 11=====================Faeries: F Grimheim - RanaarF Kingdom of Hearts - Strawberry Fields
Gnomes: A Troldhaugen - Cave of Ordeals

Leprechauns: F THE MAW - Ansalon
Ogres: A Lubrick - MerrowA Cyriss - Moominvalley
Pirates: disband F Sorrows End
disband F WAY THE HECK
---------
"Sit Long, Talk Much, Laugh Often" -- anon
"Shared Pain is lessened, Shared Joy is increased" --- Spider Robinson

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Spring 11 Final!!! (And Draw Proposals) (dc406) DancingQueen Sep 14, 04:39 pm
All units hold, yes to all draws.  I will send this to you privately also.
DQ

On Fri, Sep 14, 2012 at 5:28 PM, Mike Hoffman <mrh(at)panix.com> wrote:

Hi All,Retreats have been processed, and the map and move results from Spring corrected to accomodate Spi S Drag.  Maps for Spring are included, as are maps for Final. 

Several Draw proposals this turn.  

Proposal 1:  Ogre Solo
Proposal 2: Ogre, Undead, Dwarf Draw
Proposal 3: Ogre, Dwarf, Knight Draw
If you voted publicly already, THOSE VOTES DO NOT COUNT.  All votes MUST be sent to me privately. 

Send in votes with Fall moves.  If I receive 100% YES votes for a proposal, I will end the game without processing.
Fall Deadline is Wednesday 9/19 (I'd do Thursday, but that's my anniversary and the wife has priority over Dip Smile )


Retreats for Spring 11=====================Faeries: F Grimheim - RanaarF Kingdom of Hearts - Strawberry Fields
Gnomes: A Troldhaugen - Cave of Ordeals


Leprechauns: F THE MAW - Ansalon
Ogres: A Lubrick - MerrowA Cyriss - Moominvalley
Pirates: disband F Sorrows End

disband F WAY THE HECK
---------
"Sit Long, Talk Much, Laugh Often" -- anon
"Shared Pain is lessened, Shared Joy is increased" --- Spider Robinson
Spring 11 Final!!! (And Draw Proposals) (dc406) offdisc Sep 19, 12:39 am
24-hour warning!!!!
---------
"Sit Long, Talk Much, Laugh Often" -- anon
"Shared Pain is lessened, Shared Joy is increased" --- Spider Robinson




On Fri, Sep 14, 2012 at 3:28 PM, Mike Hoffman <mrh(at)panix.com> wrote:

Hi All,Retreats have been processed, and the map and move results from Spring corrected to accomodate Spi S Drag.  Maps for Spring are included, as are maps for Final. 
Several Draw proposals this turn.  

Proposal 1:  Ogre Solo
Proposal 2: Ogre, Undead, Dwarf Draw
Proposal 3: Ogre, Dwarf, Knight Draw
If you voted publicly already, THOSE VOTES DO NOT COUNT.  All votes MUST be sent to me privately. 
Send in votes with Fall moves.  If I receive 100% YES votes for a proposal, I will end the game without processing.
Fall Deadline is Wednesday 9/19 (I'd do Thursday, but that's my anniversary and the wife has priority over Dip Smile )

Retreats for Spring 11=====================Faeries: F Grimheim - RanaarF Kingdom of Hearts - Strawberry Fields
Gnomes: A Troldhaugen - Cave of Ordeals

Leprechauns: F THE MAW - Ansalon
Ogres: A Lubrick - MerrowA Cyriss - Moominvalley
Pirates: disband F Sorrows End
disband F WAY THE HECK
---------
"Sit Long, Talk Much, Laugh Often" -- anon
"Shared Pain is lessened, Shared Joy is increased" --- Spider Robinson
AW: DC406: Spring 11 Results! - offdisc   (Sep 13, 2012, 6:31 pm)
Guys,
Good to get your votes on this in public, but all draw proposals have to be released by me and collected via private email to me.
I will release several draw proposals later tonight when I release the Spring Retreats.


Thanks,
Mike
---------
"Sit Long, Talk Much, Laugh Often" -- anon
"Shared Pain is lessened, Shared Joy is increased" --- Spider Robinson




On Thu, Sep 13, 2012 at 8:02 AM, Pat.C C <patrickcharlescloutier(at)hotmail.com> wrote:



I vote yes to option C

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Subject: AW: DC406: Spring 11 Results!
Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2012 11:29:58 +0200


Folks , some of us are still playing, but whatever it is, it is not diplomacy any more. Let's bring this languishing game to its end.
I suggest to  vote again  on the following optionsa)      Ogre solo
b)      Dwarfes+ogres draw, all others survival status
c)       Dwarfes+ogres+knights draw, all others survival status
 Rolf
 
Von: Mike Hoffman [mailto:mrh(at)panix.com]

Gesendet: Mittwoch, 12. September 2012 06:53
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Betreff: DC406: Spring 11 Results! Hi All,Back from vacation and we're back on schedule!   Sure signs of a game coming to an end:  
1) Players order All Units Hold.  This happens to small powers early on, but when 2 of the larger powers left send in those orders, well, we can probably start voting on Draw Proposals.2) Players start rushing orders and missing units.  Dwarves and Gnomes are both guilty of this. Sorry guys.
 Spring 11 Adjustment DEADLINE is tomorrow Wednesday 9/12 at 5 PM MST! Adjustments=============Dwarves:
A Dragons Teeth Mtns -> Straw, Khaz, or OTB Faeries: F Grimheim -> Ran, or OTBF Kingdom of Hearts -> Dry, Straw, or OTB 
Gnomes: A Troldhaugen -> Ord, or OTB Leprechauns: F THE MAW -> Nec, Stx, Ans, Mer, Bik, or OTB
Ogres: A Lubrick -> Pow, Mer, or OTB
A Cyriss -> Imm, Moo, or OTB Pirates: F WAY THE HECK -> Ans, Ith(wc), Enc, or OTBF Sorrows End -> Pyg, Abby, or OTB
 Results for Spring 11 Moves==========================Archers: A Westmark Hold Dwarves: F Mount Nimro - EAST MIRIANIC OCEAN
A Diamond Mines - TymwyvenneF Ella Supports A Dimmsdale - Daisy MeadowsF Ashan Supports F BEAVERSDAM - GrimheimF Dargaard Keep - Lost Woods(sc)
F Never Never Land Supports F BIKINI BOTTOM - WAY THE HECKF Travers Town - FantasticaA Dimmsdale - Daisy MeadowsF Myth Drannor, no move received
A The Julianthes - Walk of Clouds (*Fails*)A Spirit Pond - YggdrasilA Cave of Ordeals - Sorrows EndA Dragons Teeth Mtns Hold (*Dislodged*)A Knurremurre Supports A Diamond Mines - Tymwyvenne (*Cut*)
A Ancient Necropolis Supports A Venatori Umbrarum - Neverpeak MtnF TILVA STRAIT Supports F BEAVERSDAM - GrimheimF WEST MIRIANIC OCEAN, no move receivedF NORTH MIRIANIC OCEAN - RUGGED COAST
F CHOCOLATE RIVER Supports F NORTH MIRIANIC OCEAN - RUGGED COASTF PIRATE SHOALS - The Neverwood Faeries: F Vinyaya Hold
A Oz HoldF Grimheim Hold (*Dislodged*)F The Silver city HoldF Kingdom of Hearts Hold (*Dislodged*)A Gurgi HoldA Kender Hold
 Gnomes: A Hundred Acre Wood - Newa River (*Bounce*)F Khemri - Hundred Acre Wood(ec) (*Disbanded*)A Troldhaugen, no move received (*Dislodged*)
A Avalon - Hundred Acre Wood (*Bounce*) Knights: A Paras Derval - Kingdom of HeartsF Grissel - OrborosA Wing Hove - Ice Reach (*Fails*)
A Fionavar - Dragons Teeth MtnsF Orboros - BEAVERSDAMA Sleepy Hollow - KhemriA Ice Reach - Knurremurre (*Fails*)F Owlwood - Troldhaugen
A Gwynir Supports A Sleepy Hollow - KhemriA Andarien Plain Supports A Paras Derval - Kingdom of HeartsA River Saeren Supports A Fionavar - Dragons Teeth Mtns
F Shady Vale - Land of SweetsF CELESTIAL DELTA Supports F Orboros - BEAVERSDAMF SUNLESS SEA Supports F Orboros - BEAVERSDAMF SABLES SWAMP Supports A Sleepy Hollow - Khemri
F TROG BOG Supports F Owlwood - Troldhaugen Leprechauns: A Fitzgibbon - LubrickF Tuatha Supports A Fitzgibbon - Lubrick
A Hoarluk Supports A Fitzgibbon - Lubrick (*Cut*)F THE MAW - Knockshegowna (*Dislodged*) Magicians: A Tarsis Supports A Ergoth - Cyriss
A Ergoth - CyrissF Krynn - WEST SEA OF SHADOWS (*Fails*)F WEST SEA OF SHADOWS - Ergoth (*Bounce*) Nomads: A Spiral Castle - Dragons Teeth Mtns (*Fails*)
 Ogres: F Lindon - SEA OF FALLEN STARSF Knockshegowna Supports F THUNDERHEAD - THE MAWA Lubrick - Tuatha (*Dislodged*)
F Horborixen - Fafhrd(ec)A Nehwon - UunoF Lankhmar - THREE RIVER LAKEA Fjord - GolgafrinchamA Kahvi - Grendel (*Fails*)A Everglot Supports A Uhl Belk - Skellington
A Cyriss Supports F EAST SEA OF SHADOWS - Ergoth (*Dislodged*)A Fafhrd - FitzgibbonF Whoville - Hoarluk (*Fails*)A Devils Canyon - Heresh
A Krikkit - NowwhatA Two Towers - MordorA Great Steppes Supports A Fafhrd - FitzgibbonF Powry - AllerleirauhA Allerleirauh - Magrathea
F Thirsty Desert - CandlekeepF The High Way Supports F Lindon - SEA OF FALLEN STARSF Daniloth - Newa River (*Bounce*)A Venatori Umbrarum - Neverpeak Mtn
F BEAVERSDAM - GrimheimF THON THALAS Supports A Cave of Ordeals - Sorrows EndF BIKINI BOTTOM - WAY THE HECKF THUNDERHEAD - THE MAWF RAZORS EDGE - RIFT CANYON
F NORTH RAINBOW LAKE - THUNDERHEAD Pirates: A Prydain HoldF Sorrows End Hold (*Dislodged*)A Grendel Hold
A Slightly Gulch HoldA Plains of Dust HoldA Critter Country HoldF GRIEF REEF HoldF HIGH SEAS HoldF MERMAIDS LAGOON Hold
F WAY THE HECK Hold (*Dislodged*)F HORNED BAY HoldF BABEL BEACH Hold Undead: A Timberlands - PalmarisA Uhl Belk - Skellington
F EAST SEA OF SHADOWS - Ergoth (*Bounce*)  Thanks,Mike---------
"Sit Long, Talk Much, Laugh Often" -- anon

"Shared Pain is lessened, Shared Joy is increased" --- Spider Robinson

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AW: DC406: Spring 11 Results! - BaronVonPWN   (Sep 13, 2012, 9:02 am)
I vote yes to option C

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Subject: AW: DC406: Spring 11 Results!
Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2012 11:29:58 +0200


Folks , some of us are still playing, but whatever it is, it is not diplomacy any more. Let's bring this languishing game to its end.I suggest to  vote again  on the following optionsa)      Ogre solob)      Dwarfes+ogres draw, all others survival statusc)       Dwarfes+ogres+knights draw, all others survival status Rolf Von: Mike Hoffman [mailto:mrh(at)panix.com]
Gesendet: Mittwoch, 12. September 2012 06:53
An: Maxatrest(at)yahoo.co.uk; Chris Bender; Christopher Martin; dc406; Garry Bledsoe; Hamish Williams; Jason K; Jeff Hall; Jerome Payne; Justin Card; Mark Smith; Matt Kremer; Michael Penner; Michael Sims; Pat.C C; Philip Hahn; psychosis(at)sky.com; René Krøll; Rolf Loschek; tim.diplomacy; Warren Fleming
Betreff: DC406: Spring 11 Results! Hi All,Back from vacation and we're back on schedule!   Sure signs of a game coming to an end:  1) Players order All Units Hold.  This happens to small powers early on, but when 2 of the larger powers left send in those orders, well, we can probably start voting on Draw Proposals.2) Players start rushing orders and missing units.  Dwarves and Gnomes are both guilty of this. Sorry guys. Spring 11 Adjustment DEADLINE is tomorrow Wednesday 9/12 at 5 PM MST! Adjustments=============Dwarves:A Dragons Teeth Mtns -> Straw, Khaz, or OTB Faeries: F Grimheim -> Ran, or OTBF Kingdom of Hearts -> Dry, Straw, or OTB Gnomes: A Troldhaugen -> Ord, or OTB Leprechauns: F THE MAW -> Nec, Stx, Ans, Mer, Bik, or OTB
Ogres: A Lubrick -> Pow, Mer, or OTBA Cyriss -> Imm, Moo, or OTB Pirates: F WAY THE HECK -> Ans, Ith(wc), Enc, or OTBF Sorrows End -> Pyg, Abby, or OTB Results for Spring 11 Moves==========================Archers: A Westmark Hold Dwarves: F Mount Nimro - EAST MIRIANIC OCEANA Diamond Mines - TymwyvenneF Ella Supports A Dimmsdale - Daisy MeadowsF Ashan Supports F BEAVERSDAM - GrimheimF Dargaard Keep - Lost Woods(sc)F Never Never Land Supports F BIKINI BOTTOM - WAY THE HECKF Travers Town - FantasticaA Dimmsdale - Daisy MeadowsF Myth Drannor, no move receivedA The Julianthes - Walk of Clouds (*Fails*)A Spirit Pond - YggdrasilA Cave of Ordeals - Sorrows EndA Dragons Teeth Mtns Hold (*Dislodged*)A Knurremurre Supports A Diamond Mines - Tymwyvenne (*Cut*)A Ancient Necropolis Supports A Venatori Umbrarum - Neverpeak MtnF TILVA STRAIT Supports F BEAVERSDAM - GrimheimF WEST MIRIANIC OCEAN, no move receivedF NORTH MIRIANIC OCEAN - RUGGED COASTF CHOCOLATE RIVER Supports F NORTH MIRIANIC OCEAN - RUGGED COASTF PIRATE SHOALS - The Neverwood Faeries: F Vinyaya HoldA Oz HoldF Grimheim Hold (*Dislodged*)F The Silver city HoldF Kingdom of Hearts Hold (*Dislodged*)A Gurgi HoldA Kender Hold Gnomes: A Hundred Acre Wood - Newa River (*Bounce*)F Khemri - Hundred Acre Wood(ec) (*Disbanded*)A Troldhaugen, no move received (*Dislodged*)A Avalon - Hundred Acre Wood (*Bounce*) Knights: A Paras Derval - Kingdom of HeartsF Grissel - OrborosA Wing Hove - Ice Reach (*Fails*)A Fionavar - Dragons Teeth MtnsF Orboros - BEAVERSDAMA Sleepy Hollow - KhemriA Ice Reach - Knurremurre (*Fails*)F Owlwood - TroldhaugenA Gwynir Supports A Sleepy Hollow - KhemriA Andarien Plain Supports A Paras Derval - Kingdom of HeartsA River Saeren Supports A Fionavar - Dragons Teeth MtnsF Shady Vale - Land of SweetsF CELESTIAL DELTA Supports F Orboros - BEAVERSDAMF SUNLESS SEA Supports F Orboros - BEAVERSDAMF SABLES SWAMP Supports A Sleepy Hollow - KhemriF TROG BOG Supports F Owlwood - Troldhaugen Leprechauns: A Fitzgibbon - LubrickF Tuatha Supports A Fitzgibbon - LubrickA Hoarluk Supports A Fitzgibbon - Lubrick (*Cut*)F THE MAW - Knockshegowna (*Dislodged*) Magicians: A Tarsis Supports A Ergoth - CyrissA Ergoth - CyrissF Krynn - WEST SEA OF SHADOWS (*Fails*)F WEST SEA OF SHADOWS - Ergoth (*Bounce*) Nomads: A Spiral Castle - Dragons Teeth Mtns (*Fails*) Ogres: F Lindon - SEA OF FALLEN STARSF Knockshegowna Supports F THUNDERHEAD - THE MAWA Lubrick - Tuatha (*Dislodged*)F Horborixen - Fafhrd(ec)A Nehwon - UunoF Lankhmar - THREE RIVER LAKEA Fjord - GolgafrinchamA Kahvi - Grendel (*Fails*)A Everglot Supports A Uhl Belk - SkellingtonA Cyriss Supports F EAST SEA OF SHADOWS - Ergoth (*Dislodged*)A Fafhrd - FitzgibbonF Whoville - Hoarluk (*Fails*)A Devils Canyon - HereshA Krikkit - NowwhatA Two Towers - MordorA Great Steppes Supports A Fafhrd - FitzgibbonF Powry - AllerleirauhA Allerleirauh - MagratheaF Thirsty Desert - CandlekeepF The High Way Supports F Lindon - SEA OF FALLEN STARSF Daniloth - Newa River (*Bounce*)A Venatori Umbrarum - Neverpeak MtnF BEAVERSDAM - GrimheimF THON THALAS Supports A Cave of Ordeals - Sorrows EndF BIKINI BOTTOM - WAY THE HECKF THUNDERHEAD - THE MAWF RAZORS EDGE - RIFT CANYONF NORTH RAINBOW LAKE - THUNDERHEAD Pirates: A Prydain HoldF Sorrows End Hold (*Dislodged*)A Grendel HoldA Slightly Gulch HoldA Plains of Dust HoldA Critter Country HoldF GRIEF REEF HoldF HIGH SEAS HoldF MERMAIDS LAGOON HoldF WAY THE HECK Hold (*Dislodged*)F HORNED BAY HoldF BABEL BEACH Hold Undead: A Timberlands - PalmarisA Uhl Belk - SkellingtonF EAST SEA OF SHADOWS - Ergoth (*Bounce*)  Thanks,Mike---------
"Sit Long, Talk Much, Laugh Often" -- anon
"Shared Pain is lessened, Shared Joy is increased" --- Spider Robinson

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AW: DC406: Spring 11 Results! - jerome777   (Sep 13, 2012, 5:49 am)
I vote 'yes' to all proposals too. Sent from my BlackBerry® smartphoneFrom: "Dance.scholar" <dance.scholar(at)gmail.com>
Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2012 06:40:02 -0400To: Rolf Loschek<rolfloschek(at)yahoo.de>Cc: <mrh(at)panix.com><mrh(at)panix.com>; <Maxatrest(at)yahoo.co.uk><Maxatrest(at)yahoo.co.uk>; Chris Bender<cbend37(at)aol.com>; dc406<dc406(at)diplomaticcorp.com>; Garry Bledsoe<kielmarch(at)hotmail.com>; Hamish Williams<catsfather(at)gmail.com>; JasonK<githraine(at)yahoo.com>; Jeff Hall<hall.jeff(at)gmail.com>; JeromePayne<jerome777(at)ymail.com>; Justin Card<justin(at)darkenedpath.com>; Mark Smith<markjsmith60(at)gmail.com>; Matt Kremer<kremer.matthew(at)gmail.com>; Michael Penner<mvpenner(at)yahoo.com>; Michael Sims<mike(at)fuzzylogicllc.net>; Pat.C C<patrickcharlescloutier(at)hotmail.com>; Philip Hahn<philip.a.hahn(at)gmail.com>; <psychosis(at)sky.com><psychosis(at)sky.com>; René Krøll<rk(at)giorsoine.dk>; tim.diplomacy<tim.diplomacy(at)gmail.com>; Warren Fleming<alwayshunted(at)hotmail.com>Subject: Re: AW: DC406: Spring 11 Results!Vote yes to all. 

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On Sep 13, 2012, at 5:29 AM, "Rolf Loschek" <rolfloschek(at)yahoo.de> wrote:


Folks , some of us are still playing, but whatever it is, it is not diplomacy any more. Let's bring this languishing game to its end.I suggest to  vote again  on the following optionsa)      Ogre solob)      Dwarfes+ogres draw, all others survival statusc)       Dwarfes+ogres+knights draw, all others survival status Rolf Von: Mike Hoffman [mailto:mrh(at)panix.com]
Gesendet: Mittwoch, 12. September 2012 06:53
An: Maxatrest(at)yahoo.co.uk; Chris Bender; Christopher Martin; dc406; Garry Bledsoe; Hamish Williams; Jason K; Jeff Hall; Jerome Payne; Justin Card; Mark Smith; Matt Kremer; Michael Penner; Michael Sims; Pat.C C; Philip Hahn; psychosis(at)sky.com; René Krøll; Rolf Loschek; tim.diplomacy; Warren Fleming
Betreff: DC406: Spring 11 Results! Hi All,Back from vacation and we're back on schedule!   Sure signs of a game coming to an end:  1) Players order All Units Hold.  This happens to small powers early on, but when 2 of the larger powers left send in those orders, well, we can probably start voting on Draw Proposals.2) Players start rushing orders and missing units.  Dwarves and Gnomes are both guilty of this. Sorry guys. Spring 11 Adjustment DEADLINE is tomorrow Wednesday 9/12 at 5 PM MST! Adjustments=============Dwarves:A Dragons Teeth Mtns -> Straw, Khaz, or OTB Faeries: F Grimheim -> Ran, or OTBF Kingdom of Hearts -> Dry, Straw, or OTB Gnomes: A Troldhaugen -> Ord, or OTB Leprechauns: F THE MAW -> Nec, Stx, Ans, Mer, Bik, or OTB
Ogres: A Lubrick -> Pow, Mer, or OTBA Cyriss -> Imm, Moo, or OTB Pirates: F WAY THE HECK -> Ans, Ith(wc), Enc, or OTBF Sorrows End -> Pyg, Abby, or OTB Results for Spring 11 Moves==========================Archers: A Westmark Hold Dwarves: F Mount Nimro - EAST MIRIANIC OCEANA Diamond Mines - TymwyvenneF Ella Supports A Dimmsdale - Daisy MeadowsF Ashan Supports F BEAVERSDAM - GrimheimF Dargaard Keep - Lost Woods(sc)F Never Never Land Supports F BIKINI BOTTOM - WAY THE HECKF Travers Town - FantasticaA Dimmsdale - Daisy MeadowsF Myth Drannor, no move receivedA The Julianthes - Walk of Clouds (*Fails*)A Spirit Pond - YggdrasilA Cave of Ordeals - Sorrows EndA Dragons Teeth Mtns Hold (*Dislodged*)A Knurremurre Supports A Diamond Mines - Tymwyvenne (*Cut*)A Ancient Necropolis Supports A Venatori Umbrarum - Neverpeak MtnF TILVA STRAIT Supports F BEAVERSDAM - GrimheimF WEST MIRIANIC OCEAN, no move receivedF NORTH MIRIANIC OCEAN - RUGGED COASTF CHOCOLATE RIVER Supports F NORTH MIRIANIC OCEAN - RUGGED COASTF PIRATE SHOALS - The Neverwood Faeries: F Vinyaya HoldA Oz HoldF Grimheim Hold (*Dislodged*)F The Silver city HoldF Kingdom of Hearts Hold (*Dislodged*)A Gurgi HoldA Kender Hold Gnomes: A Hundred Acre Wood - Newa River (*Bounce*)F Khemri - Hundred Acre Wood(ec) (*Disbanded*)A Troldhaugen, no move received (*Dislodged*)A Avalon - Hundred Acre Wood (*Bounce*) Knights: A Paras Derval - Kingdom of HeartsF Grissel - OrborosA Wing Hove - Ice Reach (*Fails*)A Fionavar - Dragons Teeth MtnsF Orboros - BEAVERSDAMA Sleepy Hollow - KhemriA Ice Reach - Knurremurre (*Fails*)F Owlwood - TroldhaugenA Gwynir Supports A Sleepy Hollow - KhemriA Andarien Plain Supports A Paras Derval - Kingdom of HeartsA River Saeren Supports A Fionavar - Dragons Teeth MtnsF Shady Vale - Land of SweetsF CELESTIAL DELTA Supports F Orboros - BEAVERSDAMF SUNLESS SEA Supports F Orboros - BEAVERSDAMF SABLES SWAMP Supports A Sleepy Hollow - KhemriF TROG BOG Supports F Owlwood - Troldhaugen Leprechauns: A Fitzgibbon - LubrickF Tuatha Supports A Fitzgibbon - LubrickA Hoarluk Supports A Fitzgibbon - Lubrick (*Cut*)F THE MAW - Knockshegowna (*Dislodged*) Magicians: A Tarsis Supports A Ergoth - CyrissA Ergoth - CyrissF Krynn - WEST SEA OF SHADOWS (*Fails*)F WEST SEA OF SHADOWS - Ergoth (*Bounce*) Nomads: A Spiral Castle - Dragons Teeth Mtns (*Fails*) Ogres: F Lindon - SEA OF FALLEN STARSF Knockshegowna Supports F THUNDERHEAD - THE MAWA Lubrick - Tuatha (*Dislodged*)F Horborixen - Fafhrd(ec)A Nehwon - UunoF Lankhmar - THREE RIVER LAKEA Fjord - GolgafrinchamA Kahvi - Grendel (*Fails*)A Everglot Supports A Uhl Belk - SkellingtonA Cyriss Supports F EAST SEA OF SHADOWS - Ergoth (*Dislodged*)A Fafhrd - FitzgibbonF Whoville - Hoarluk (*Fails*)A Devils Canyon - HereshA Krikkit - NowwhatA Two Towers - MordorA Great Steppes Supports A Fafhrd - FitzgibbonF Powry - AllerleirauhA Allerleirauh - MagratheaF Thirsty Desert - CandlekeepF The High Way Supports F Lindon - SEA OF FALLEN STARSF Daniloth - Newa River (*Bounce*)A Venatori Umbrarum - Neverpeak MtnF BEAVERSDAM - GrimheimF THON THALAS Supports A Cave of Ordeals - Sorrows EndF BIKINI BOTTOM - WAY THE HECKF THUNDERHEAD - THE MAWF RAZORS EDGE - RIFT CANYONF NORTH RAINBOW LAKE - THUNDERHEAD Pirates: A Prydain HoldF Sorrows End Hold (*Dislodged*)A Grendel HoldA Slightly Gulch HoldA Plains of Dust HoldA Critter Country HoldF GRIEF REEF HoldF HIGH SEAS HoldF MERMAIDS LAGOON HoldF WAY THE HECK Hold (*Dislodged*)F HORNED BAY HoldF BABEL BEACH Hold Undead: A Timberlands - PalmarisA Uhl Belk - SkellingtonF EAST SEA OF SHADOWS - Ergoth (*Bounce*)  Thanks,Mike---------
"Sit Long, Talk Much, Laugh Often" -- anon
"Shared Pain is lessened, Shared Joy is increased" --- Spider Robinson

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AW: DC406: Spring 11 Results! - DancingQueen   (Sep 13, 2012, 5:40 am)
Vote yes to all. 

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On Sep 13, 2012, at 5:29 AM, "Rolf Loschek" <rolfloschek(at)yahoo.de> wrote:


Folks , some of us are still playing, but whatever it is, it is not diplomacy any more. Let???s bring this languishing game to its end.I suggest to  vote again  on the following optionsa)      Ogre solob)      Dwarfes+ogres draw, all others survival statusc)       Dwarfes+ogres+knights draw, all others survival status Rolf Von: Mike Hoffman [mailto:mrh(at)panix.com]
Gesendet: Mittwoch, 12. September 2012 06:53
An: Maxatrest(at)yahoo.co.uk; Chris Bender; Christopher Martin; dc406; Garry Bledsoe; Hamish Williams; Jason K; Jeff Hall; Jerome Payne; Justin Card; Mark Smith; Matt Kremer; Michael Penner; Michael Sims; Pat.C C; Philip Hahn; psychosis(at)sky.com; Ren?? Kr??ll; Rolf Loschek; tim.diplomacy; Warren Fleming
Betreff: DC406: Spring 11 Results! Hi All,Back from vacation and we're back on schedule!   Sure signs of a game coming to an end:  1) Players order All Units Hold.  This happens to small powers early on, but when 2 of the larger powers left send in those orders, well, we can probably start voting on Draw Proposals.2) Players start rushing orders and missing units.  Dwarves and Gnomes are both guilty of this. Sorry guys. Spring 11 Adjustment DEADLINE is tomorrow Wednesday 9/12 at 5 PM MST! Adjustments=============Dwarves:A Dragons Teeth Mtns -> Straw, Khaz, or OTB Faeries: F Grimheim -> Ran, or OTBF Kingdom of Hearts -> Dry, Straw, or OTB Gnomes: A Troldhaugen -> Ord, or OTB Leprechauns: F THE MAW -> Nec, Stx, Ans, Mer, Bik, or OTB
Ogres: A Lubrick -> Pow, Mer, or OTBA Cyriss -> Imm, Moo, or OTB Pirates: F WAY THE HECK -> Ans, Ith(wc), Enc, or OTBF Sorrows End -> Pyg, Abby, or OTB Results for Spring 11 Moves==========================Archers: A Westmark Hold Dwarves: F Mount Nimro - EAST MIRIANIC OCEANA Diamond Mines - TymwyvenneF Ella Supports A Dimmsdale - Daisy MeadowsF Ashan Supports F BEAVERSDAM - GrimheimF Dargaard Keep - Lost Woods(sc)F Never Never Land Supports F BIKINI BOTTOM - WAY THE HECKF Travers Town - FantasticaA Dimmsdale - Daisy MeadowsF Myth Drannor, no move receivedA The Julianthes - Walk of Clouds (*Fails*)A Spirit Pond - YggdrasilA Cave of Ordeals - Sorrows EndA Dragons Teeth Mtns Hold (*Dislodged*)A Knurremurre Supports A Diamond Mines - Tymwyvenne (*Cut*)A Ancient Necropolis Supports A Venatori Umbrarum - Neverpeak MtnF TILVA STRAIT Supports F BEAVERSDAM - GrimheimF WEST MIRIANIC OCEAN, no move receivedF NORTH MIRIANIC OCEAN - RUGGED COASTF CHOCOLATE RIVER Supports F NORTH MIRIANIC OCEAN - RUGGED COASTF PIRATE SHOALS - The Neverwood Faeries: F Vinyaya HoldA Oz HoldF Grimheim Hold (*Dislodged*)F The Silver city HoldF Kingdom of Hearts Hold (*Dislodged*)A Gurgi HoldA Kender Hold Gnomes: A Hundred Acre Wood - Newa River (*Bounce*)F Khemri - Hundred Acre Wood(ec) (*Disbanded*)A Troldhaugen, no move received (*Dislodged*)A Avalon - Hundred Acre Wood (*Bounce*) Knights: A Paras Derval - Kingdom of HeartsF Grissel - OrborosA Wing Hove - Ice Reach (*Fails*)A Fionavar - Dragons Teeth MtnsF Orboros - BEAVERSDAMA Sleepy Hollow - KhemriA Ice Reach - Knurremurre (*Fails*)F Owlwood - TroldhaugenA Gwynir Supports A Sleepy Hollow - KhemriA Andarien Plain Supports A Paras Derval - Kingdom of HeartsA River Saeren Supports A Fionavar - Dragons Teeth MtnsF Shady Vale - Land of SweetsF CELESTIAL DELTA Supports F Orboros - BEAVERSDAMF SUNLESS SEA Supports F Orboros - BEAVERSDAMF SABLES SWAMP Supports A Sleepy Hollow - KhemriF TROG BOG Supports F Owlwood - Troldhaugen Leprechauns: A Fitzgibbon - LubrickF Tuatha Supports A Fitzgibbon - LubrickA Hoarluk Supports A Fitzgibbon - Lubrick (*Cut*)F THE MAW - Knockshegowna (*Dislodged*) Magicians: A Tarsis Supports A Ergoth - CyrissA Ergoth - CyrissF Krynn - WEST SEA OF SHADOWS (*Fails*)F WEST SEA OF SHADOWS - Ergoth (*Bounce*) Nomads: A Spiral Castle - Dragons Teeth Mtns (*Fails*) Ogres: F Lindon - SEA OF FALLEN STARSF Knockshegowna Supports F THUNDERHEAD - THE MAWA Lubrick - Tuatha (*Dislodged*)F Horborixen - Fafhrd(ec)A Nehwon - UunoF Lankhmar - THREE RIVER LAKEA Fjord - GolgafrinchamA Kahvi - Grendel (*Fails*)A Everglot Supports A Uhl Belk - SkellingtonA Cyriss Supports F EAST SEA OF SHADOWS - Ergoth (*Dislodged*)A Fafhrd - FitzgibbonF Whoville - Hoarluk (*Fails*)A Devils Canyon - HereshA Krikkit - NowwhatA Two Towers - MordorA Great Steppes Supports A Fafhrd - FitzgibbonF Powry - AllerleirauhA Allerleirauh - MagratheaF Thirsty Desert - CandlekeepF The High Way Supports F Lindon - SEA OF FALLEN STARSF Daniloth - Newa River (*Bounce*)A Venatori Umbrarum - Neverpeak MtnF BEAVERSDAM - GrimheimF THON THALAS Supports A Cave of Ordeals - Sorrows EndF BIKINI BOTTOM - WAY THE HECKF THUNDERHEAD - THE MAWF RAZORS EDGE - RIFT CANYONF NORTH RAINBOW LAKE - THUNDERHEAD Pirates: A Prydain HoldF Sorrows End Hold (*Dislodged*)A Grendel HoldA Slightly Gulch HoldA Plains of Dust HoldA Critter Country HoldF GRIEF REEF HoldF HIGH SEAS HoldF MERMAIDS LAGOON HoldF WAY THE HECK Hold (*Dislodged*)F HORNED BAY HoldF BABEL BEACH Hold Undead: A Timberlands - PalmarisA Uhl Belk - SkellingtonF EAST SEA OF SHADOWS - Ergoth (*Bounce*)  Thanks,Mike---------
"Sit Long, Talk Much, Laugh Often" -- anon
"Shared Pain is lessened, Shared Joy is increased" --- Spider Robinson

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AW: DC406: Spring 11 Results! - pieandmash   (Sep 13, 2012, 5:39 am)
I second that

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Rolf Loschek <rolfloschek(at)yahoo.de> wrote:

Folks , some of us are still playing, but whatever it is, it is not diplomacy any more. Let‘s bring this languishing game to its end.I suggest to  vote again  on the following optionsa)      Ogre solob)      Dwarfes+ogres draw, all others survival statusc)       Dwarfes+ogres+knights draw, all others survival status Rolf Von: Mike Hoffman [mailto:mrh(at)panix.com]
Gesendet: Mittwoch, 12. September 2012 06:53
An: Maxatrest(at)yahoo.co.uk; Chris Bender; Christopher Martin; dc406; Garry Bledsoe; Hamish Williams; Jason K; Jeff Hall; Jerome Payne; Justin Card; Mark Smith; Matt Kremer; Michael Penner; Michael Sims; Pat.C C; Philip Hahn; psychosis(at)sky.com; René Krøll; Rolf Loschek; tim.diplomacy; Warren Fleming
Betreff: DC406: Spring 11 Results! Hi All,Back from vacation and we're back on schedule!   Sure signs of a game coming to an end:  1) Players order All Units Hold.  This happens to small powers early on, but when 2 of the larger powers left send in those orders, well, we can probably start voting on Draw Proposals.2) Players start rushing orders and missing units.  Dwarves and Gnomes are both guilty of this. Sorry guys. Spring 11 Adjustment DEADLINE is tomorrow Wednesday 9/12 at 5 PM MST! Adjustments=============Dwarves:A Dragons Teeth Mtns -> Straw, Khaz, or OTB Faeries: F Grimheim -> Ran, or OTBF Kingdom of Hearts -> Dry, Straw, or OTB Gnomes: A Troldhaugen -> Ord, or OTB Leprechauns: F THE MAW -> Nec, Stx, Ans, Mer, Bik, or OTB
Ogres: A Lubrick -> Pow, Mer, or OTBA Cyriss -> Imm, Moo, or OTB Pirates: F WAY THE HECK -> Ans, Ith(wc), Enc, or OTBF Sorrows End -> Pyg, Abby, or OTB Results for Spring 11 Moves==========================Archers: A Westmark Hold Dwarves: F Mount Nimro - EAST MIRIANIC OCEANA Diamond Mines - TymwyvenneF Ella Supports A Dimmsdale - Daisy MeadowsF Ashan Supports F BEAVERSDAM - GrimheimF Dargaard Keep - Lost Woods(sc)F Never Never Land Supports F BIKINI BOTTOM - WAY THE HECKF Travers Town - FantasticaA Dimmsdale - Daisy MeadowsF Myth Drannor, no move receivedA The Julianthes - Walk of Clouds (*Fails*)A Spirit Pond - YggdrasilA Cave of Ordeals - Sorrows EndA Dragons Teeth Mtns Hold (*Dislodged*)A Knurremurre Supports A Diamond Mines - Tymwyvenne (*Cut*)A Ancient Necropolis Supports A Venatori Umbrarum - Neverpeak MtnF TILVA STRAIT Supports F BEAVERSDAM - GrimheimF WEST MIRIANIC OCEAN, no move receivedF NORTH MIRIANIC OCEAN - RUGGED COASTF CHOCOLATE RIVER Supports F NORTH MIRIANIC OCEAN - RUGGED COASTF PIRATE SHOALS - The Neverwood Faeries: F Vinyaya HoldA Oz HoldF Grimheim Hold (*Dislodged*)F The Silver city HoldF Kingdom of Hearts Hold (*Dislodged*)A Gurgi HoldA Kender Hold Gnomes: A Hundred Acre Wood - Newa River (*Bounce*)F Khemri - Hundred Acre Wood(ec) (*Disbanded*)A Troldhaugen, no move received (*Dislodged*)A Avalon - Hundred Acre Wood (*Bounce*) Knights: A Paras Derval - Kingdom of HeartsF Grissel - OrborosA Wing Hove - Ice Reach (*Fails*)A Fionavar - Dragons Teeth MtnsF Orboros - BEAVERSDAMA Sleepy Hollow - KhemriA Ice Reach - Knurremurre (*Fails*)F Owlwood - TroldhaugenA Gwynir Supports A Sleepy Hollow - KhemriA Andarien Plain Supports A Paras Derval - Kingdom of HeartsA River Saeren Supports A Fionavar - Dragons Teeth MtnsF Shady Vale - Land of SweetsF CELESTIAL DELTA Supports F Orboros - BEAVERSDAMF SUNLESS SEA Supports F Orboros - BEAVERSDAMF SABLES SWAMP Supports A Sleepy Hollow - KhemriF TROG BOG Supports F Owlwood - Troldhaugen Leprechauns: A Fitzgibbon - LubrickF Tuatha Supports A Fitzgibbon - LubrickA Hoarluk Supports A Fitzgibbon - Lubrick (*Cut*)F THE MAW - Knockshegowna (*Dislodged*) Magicians: A Tarsis Supports A Ergoth - CyrissA Ergoth - CyrissF Krynn - WEST SEA OF SHADOWS (*Fails*)F WEST SEA OF SHADOWS - Ergoth (*Bounce*) Nomads: A Spiral Castle - Dragons Teeth Mtns (*Fails*) Ogres: F Lindon - SEA OF FALLEN STARSF Knockshegowna Supports F THUNDERHEAD - THE MAWA Lubrick - Tuatha (*Dislodged*)F Horborixen - Fafhrd(ec)A Nehwon - UunoF Lankhmar - THREE RIVER LAKEA Fjord - GolgafrinchamA Kahvi - Grendel (*Fails*)A Everglot Supports A Uhl Belk - SkellingtonA Cyriss Supports F EAST SEA OF SHADOWS - Ergoth (*Dislodged*)A Fafhrd - FitzgibbonF Whoville - Hoarluk (*Fails*)A Devils Canyon - HereshA Krikkit - NowwhatA Two Towers - MordorA Great Steppes Supports A Fafhrd - FitzgibbonF Powry - AllerleirauhA Allerleirauh - MagratheaF Thirsty Desert - CandlekeepF The High Way Supports F Lindon - SEA OF FALLEN STARSF Daniloth - Newa River (*Bounce*)A Venatori Umbrarum - Neverpeak MtnF BEAVERSDAM - GrimheimF THON THALAS Supports A Cave of Ordeals - Sorrows EndF BIKINI BOTTOM - WAY THE HECKF THUNDERHEAD - THE MAWF RAZORS EDGE - RIFT CANYONF NORTH RAINBOW LAKE - THUNDERHEAD Pirates: A Prydain HoldF Sorrows End Hold (*Dislodged*)A Grendel HoldA Slightly Gulch HoldA Plains of Dust HoldA Critter Country HoldF GRIEF REEF HoldF HIGH SEAS HoldF MERMAIDS LAGOON HoldF WAY THE HECK Hold (*Dislodged*)F HORNED BAY HoldF BABEL BEACH Hold Undead: A Timberlands - PalmarisA Uhl Belk - SkellingtonF EAST SEA OF SHADOWS - Ergoth (*Bounce*)  Thanks,Mike---------
"Sit Long, Talk Much, Laugh Often" -- anon
"Shared Pain is lessened, Shared Joy is increased" --- Spider Robinson

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AW: DC406: Spring 11 Results! - waschlappen   (Sep 13, 2012, 4:29 am)
Folks , some of us are still playing, but whatever it is, it is not diplomacy any more. Let‘s bring this languishing game to its end.I suggest to  vote again  on the following optionsa)      Ogre solob)      Dwarfes+ogres draw, all others survival statusc)       Dwarfes+ogres+knights draw, all others survival status Rolf Von: Mike Hoffman [mailto:mrh(at)panix.com]
Gesendet: Mittwoch, 12. September 2012 06:53
An: Maxatrest(at)yahoo.co.uk; Chris Bender; Christopher Martin; dc406; Garry Bledsoe; Hamish Williams; Jason K; Jeff Hall; Jerome Payne; Justin Card; Mark Smith; Matt Kremer; Michael Penner; Michael Sims; Pat.C C; Philip Hahn; psychosis(at)sky.com; René Krøll; Rolf Loschek; tim.diplomacy; Warren Fleming
Betreff: DC406: Spring 11 Results! Hi All,Back from vacation and we're back on schedule!   Sure signs of a game coming to an end:  1) Players order All Units Hold.  This happens to small powers early on, but when 2 of the larger powers left send in those orders, well, we can probably start voting on Draw Proposals.2) Players start rushing orders and missing units.  Dwarves and Gnomes are both guilty of this. Sorry guys. Spring 11 Adjustment DEADLINE is tomorrow Wednesday 9/12 at 5 PM MST! Adjustments=============Dwarves:A Dragons Teeth Mtns -> Straw, Khaz, or OTB Faeries: F Grimheim -> Ran, or OTBF Kingdom of Hearts -> Dry, Straw, or OTB Gnomes: A Troldhaugen -> Ord, or OTB Leprechauns: F THE MAW -> Nec, Stx, Ans, Mer, Bik, or OTB
Ogres: A Lubrick -> Pow, Mer, or OTBA Cyriss -> Imm, Moo, or OTB Pirates: F WAY THE HECK -> Ans, Ith(wc), Enc, or OTBF Sorrows End -> Pyg, Abby, or OTB Results for Spring 11 Moves==========================Archers: A Westmark Hold Dwarves: F Mount Nimro - EAST MIRIANIC OCEANA Diamond Mines - TymwyvenneF Ella Supports A Dimmsdale - Daisy MeadowsF Ashan Supports F BEAVERSDAM - GrimheimF Dargaard Keep - Lost Woods(sc)F Never Never Land Supports F BIKINI BOTTOM - WAY THE HECKF Travers Town - FantasticaA Dimmsdale - Daisy MeadowsF Myth Drannor, no move receivedA The Julianthes - Walk of Clouds (*Fails*)A Spirit Pond - YggdrasilA Cave of Ordeals - Sorrows EndA Dragons Teeth Mtns Hold (*Dislodged*)A Knurremurre Supports A Diamond Mines - Tymwyvenne (*Cut*)A Ancient Necropolis Supports A Venatori Umbrarum - Neverpeak MtnF TILVA STRAIT Supports F BEAVERSDAM - GrimheimF WEST MIRIANIC OCEAN, no move receivedF NORTH MIRIANIC OCEAN - RUGGED COASTF CHOCOLATE RIVER Supports F NORTH MIRIANIC OCEAN - RUGGED COASTF PIRATE SHOALS - The Neverwood Faeries: F Vinyaya HoldA Oz HoldF Grimheim Hold (*Dislodged*)F The Silver city HoldF Kingdom of Hearts Hold (*Dislodged*)A Gurgi HoldA Kender Hold Gnomes: A Hundred Acre Wood - Newa River (*Bounce*)F Khemri - Hundred Acre Wood(ec) (*Disbanded*)A Troldhaugen, no move received (*Dislodged*)A Avalon - Hundred Acre Wood (*Bounce*) Knights: A Paras Derval - Kingdom of HeartsF Grissel - OrborosA Wing Hove - Ice Reach (*Fails*)A Fionavar - Dragons Teeth MtnsF Orboros - BEAVERSDAMA Sleepy Hollow - KhemriA Ice Reach - Knurremurre (*Fails*)F Owlwood - TroldhaugenA Gwynir Supports A Sleepy Hollow - KhemriA Andarien Plain Supports A Paras Derval - Kingdom of HeartsA River Saeren Supports A Fionavar - Dragons Teeth MtnsF Shady Vale - Land of SweetsF CELESTIAL DELTA Supports F Orboros - BEAVERSDAMF SUNLESS SEA Supports F Orboros - BEAVERSDAMF SABLES SWAMP Supports A Sleepy Hollow - KhemriF TROG BOG Supports F Owlwood - Troldhaugen Leprechauns: A Fitzgibbon - LubrickF Tuatha Supports A Fitzgibbon - LubrickA Hoarluk Supports A Fitzgibbon - Lubrick (*Cut*)F THE MAW - Knockshegowna (*Dislodged*) Magicians: A Tarsis Supports A Ergoth - CyrissA Ergoth - CyrissF Krynn - WEST SEA OF SHADOWS (*Fails*)F WEST SEA OF SHADOWS - Ergoth (*Bounce*) Nomads: A Spiral Castle - Dragons Teeth Mtns (*Fails*) Ogres: F Lindon - SEA OF FALLEN STARSF Knockshegowna Supports F THUNDERHEAD - THE MAWA Lubrick - Tuatha (*Dislodged*)F Horborixen - Fafhrd(ec)A Nehwon - UunoF Lankhmar - THREE RIVER LAKEA Fjord - GolgafrinchamA Kahvi - Grendel (*Fails*)A Everglot Supports A Uhl Belk - SkellingtonA Cyriss Supports F EAST SEA OF SHADOWS - Ergoth (*Dislodged*)A Fafhrd - FitzgibbonF Whoville - Hoarluk (*Fails*)A Devils Canyon - HereshA Krikkit - NowwhatA Two Towers - MordorA Great Steppes Supports A Fafhrd - FitzgibbonF Powry - AllerleirauhA Allerleirauh - MagratheaF Thirsty Desert - CandlekeepF The High Way Supports F Lindon - SEA OF FALLEN STARSF Daniloth - Newa River (*Bounce*)A Venatori Umbrarum - Neverpeak MtnF BEAVERSDAM - GrimheimF THON THALAS Supports A Cave of Ordeals - Sorrows EndF BIKINI BOTTOM - WAY THE HECKF THUNDERHEAD - THE MAWF RAZORS EDGE - RIFT CANYONF NORTH RAINBOW LAKE - THUNDERHEAD Pirates: A Prydain HoldF Sorrows End Hold (*Dislodged*)A Grendel HoldA Slightly Gulch HoldA Plains of Dust HoldA Critter Country HoldF GRIEF REEF HoldF HIGH SEAS HoldF MERMAIDS LAGOON HoldF WAY THE HECK Hold (*Dislodged*)F HORNED BAY HoldF BABEL BEACH Hold Undead: A Timberlands - PalmarisA Uhl Belk - SkellingtonF EAST SEA OF SHADOWS - Ergoth (*Bounce*)  Thanks,Mike---------
"Sit Long, Talk Much, Laugh Often" -- anon
"Shared Pain is lessened, Shared Joy is increased" --- Spider Robinson

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AW: DC406: Spring 11 Results! (dc406) pieandmash Sep 13, 05:39 am
I second that

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Rolf Loschek <rolfloschek(at)yahoo.de> wrote:

Folks , some of us are still playing, but whatever it is, it is not diplomacy any more. Let‘s bring this languishing game to its end.I suggest to  vote again  on the following optionsa)      Ogre solob)      Dwarfes+ogres draw, all others survival statusc)       Dwarfes+ogres+knights draw, all others survival status Rolf Von: Mike Hoffman [mailto:mrh(at)panix.com]
Gesendet: Mittwoch, 12. September 2012 06:53
An: Maxatrest(at)yahoo.co.uk; Chris Bender; Christopher Martin; dc406; Garry Bledsoe; Hamish Williams; Jason K; Jeff Hall; Jerome Payne; Justin Card; Mark Smith; Matt Kremer; Michael Penner; Michael Sims; Pat.C C; Philip Hahn; psychosis(at)sky.com; René Krøll; Rolf Loschek; tim.diplomacy; Warren Fleming
Betreff: DC406: Spring 11 Results! Hi All,Back from vacation and we're back on schedule!   Sure signs of a game coming to an end:  1) Players order All Units Hold.  This happens to small powers early on, but when 2 of the larger powers left send in those orders, well, we can probably start voting on Draw Proposals.2) Players start rushing orders and missing units.  Dwarves and Gnomes are both guilty of this. Sorry guys. Spring 11 Adjustment DEADLINE is tomorrow Wednesday 9/12 at 5 PM MST! Adjustments=============Dwarves:A Dragons Teeth Mtns -> Straw, Khaz, or OTB Faeries: F Grimheim -> Ran, or OTBF Kingdom of Hearts -> Dry, Straw, or OTB Gnomes: A Troldhaugen -> Ord, or OTB Leprechauns: F THE MAW -> Nec, Stx, Ans, Mer, Bik, or OTB
Ogres: A Lubrick -> Pow, Mer, or OTBA Cyriss -> Imm, Moo, or OTB Pirates: F WAY THE HECK -> Ans, Ith(wc), Enc, or OTBF Sorrows End -> Pyg, Abby, or OTB Results for Spring 11 Moves==========================Archers: A Westmark Hold Dwarves: F Mount Nimro - EAST MIRIANIC OCEANA Diamond Mines - TymwyvenneF Ella Supports A Dimmsdale - Daisy MeadowsF Ashan Supports F BEAVERSDAM - GrimheimF Dargaard Keep - Lost Woods(sc)F Never Never Land Supports F BIKINI BOTTOM - WAY THE HECKF Travers Town - FantasticaA Dimmsdale - Daisy MeadowsF Myth Drannor, no move receivedA The Julianthes - Walk of Clouds (*Fails*)A Spirit Pond - YggdrasilA Cave of Ordeals - Sorrows EndA Dragons Teeth Mtns Hold (*Dislodged*)A Knurremurre Supports A Diamond Mines - Tymwyvenne (*Cut*)A Ancient Necropolis Supports A Venatori Umbrarum - Neverpeak MtnF TILVA STRAIT Supports F BEAVERSDAM - GrimheimF WEST MIRIANIC OCEAN, no move receivedF NORTH MIRIANIC OCEAN - RUGGED COASTF CHOCOLATE RIVER Supports F NORTH MIRIANIC OCEAN - RUGGED COASTF PIRATE SHOALS - The Neverwood Faeries: F Vinyaya HoldA Oz HoldF Grimheim Hold (*Dislodged*)F The Silver city HoldF Kingdom of Hearts Hold (*Dislodged*)A Gurgi HoldA Kender Hold Gnomes: A Hundred Acre Wood - Newa River (*Bounce*)F Khemri - Hundred Acre Wood(ec) (*Disbanded*)A Troldhaugen, no move received (*Dislodged*)A Avalon - Hundred Acre Wood (*Bounce*) Knights: A Paras Derval - Kingdom of HeartsF Grissel - OrborosA Wing Hove - Ice Reach (*Fails*)A Fionavar - Dragons Teeth MtnsF Orboros - BEAVERSDAMA Sleepy Hollow - KhemriA Ice Reach - Knurremurre (*Fails*)F Owlwood - TroldhaugenA Gwynir Supports A Sleepy Hollow - KhemriA Andarien Plain Supports A Paras Derval - Kingdom of HeartsA River Saeren Supports A Fionavar - Dragons Teeth MtnsF Shady Vale - Land of SweetsF CELESTIAL DELTA Supports F Orboros - BEAVERSDAMF SUNLESS SEA Supports F Orboros - BEAVERSDAMF SABLES SWAMP Supports A Sleepy Hollow - KhemriF TROG BOG Supports F Owlwood - Troldhaugen Leprechauns: A Fitzgibbon - LubrickF Tuatha Supports A Fitzgibbon - LubrickA Hoarluk Supports A Fitzgibbon - Lubrick (*Cut*)F THE MAW - Knockshegowna (*Dislodged*) Magicians: A Tarsis Supports A Ergoth - CyrissA Ergoth - CyrissF Krynn - WEST SEA OF SHADOWS (*Fails*)F WEST SEA OF SHADOWS - Ergoth (*Bounce*) Nomads: A Spiral Castle - Dragons Teeth Mtns (*Fails*) Ogres: F Lindon - SEA OF FALLEN STARSF Knockshegowna Supports F THUNDERHEAD - THE MAWA Lubrick - Tuatha (*Dislodged*)F Horborixen - Fafhrd(ec)A Nehwon - UunoF Lankhmar - THREE RIVER LAKEA Fjord - GolgafrinchamA Kahvi - Grendel (*Fails*)A Everglot Supports A Uhl Belk - SkellingtonA Cyriss Supports F EAST SEA OF SHADOWS - Ergoth (*Dislodged*)A Fafhrd - FitzgibbonF Whoville - Hoarluk (*Fails*)A Devils Canyon - HereshA Krikkit - NowwhatA Two Towers - MordorA Great Steppes Supports A Fafhrd - FitzgibbonF Powry - AllerleirauhA Allerleirauh - MagratheaF Thirsty Desert - CandlekeepF The High Way Supports F Lindon - SEA OF FALLEN STARSF Daniloth - Newa River (*Bounce*)A Venatori Umbrarum - Neverpeak MtnF BEAVERSDAM - GrimheimF THON THALAS Supports A Cave of Ordeals - Sorrows EndF BIKINI BOTTOM - WAY THE HECKF THUNDERHEAD - THE MAWF RAZORS EDGE - RIFT CANYONF NORTH RAINBOW LAKE - THUNDERHEAD Pirates: A Prydain HoldF Sorrows End Hold (*Dislodged*)A Grendel HoldA Slightly Gulch HoldA Plains of Dust HoldA Critter Country HoldF GRIEF REEF HoldF HIGH SEAS HoldF MERMAIDS LAGOON HoldF WAY THE HECK Hold (*Dislodged*)F HORNED BAY HoldF BABEL BEACH Hold Undead: A Timberlands - PalmarisA Uhl Belk - SkellingtonF EAST SEA OF SHADOWS - Ergoth (*Bounce*)  Thanks,Mike---------
"Sit Long, Talk Much, Laugh Often" -- anon
"Shared Pain is lessened, Shared Joy is increased" --- Spider Robinson
AW: DC406: Spring 11 Results! (dc406) DancingQueen Sep 13, 05:40 am
Vote yes to all. 

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On Sep 13, 2012, at 5:29 AM, "Rolf Loschek" <rolfloschek(at)yahoo.de> wrote:


Folks , some of us are still playing, but whatever it is, it is not diplomacy any more. Let???s bring this languishing game to its end.I suggest to  vote again  on the following optionsa)      Ogre solob)      Dwarfes+ogres draw, all others survival statusc)       Dwarfes+ogres+knights draw, all others survival status Rolf Von: Mike Hoffman [mailto:mrh(at)panix.com]
Gesendet: Mittwoch, 12. September 2012 06:53
An: Maxatrest(at)yahoo.co.uk; Chris Bender; Christopher Martin; dc406; Garry Bledsoe; Hamish Williams; Jason K; Jeff Hall; Jerome Payne; Justin Card; Mark Smith; Matt Kremer; Michael Penner; Michael Sims; Pat.C C; Philip Hahn; psychosis(at)sky.com; Ren?? Kr??ll; Rolf Loschek; tim.diplomacy; Warren Fleming
Betreff: DC406: Spring 11 Results! Hi All,Back from vacation and we're back on schedule!   Sure signs of a game coming to an end:  1) Players order All Units Hold.  This happens to small powers early on, but when 2 of the larger powers left send in those orders, well, we can probably start voting on Draw Proposals.2) Players start rushing orders and missing units.  Dwarves and Gnomes are both guilty of this. Sorry guys. Spring 11 Adjustment DEADLINE is tomorrow Wednesday 9/12 at 5 PM MST! Adjustments=============Dwarves:A Dragons Teeth Mtns -> Straw, Khaz, or OTB Faeries: F Grimheim -> Ran, or OTBF Kingdom of Hearts -> Dry, Straw, or OTB Gnomes: A Troldhaugen -> Ord, or OTB Leprechauns: F THE MAW -> Nec, Stx, Ans, Mer, Bik, or OTB
Ogres: A Lubrick -> Pow, Mer, or OTBA Cyriss -> Imm, Moo, or OTB Pirates: F WAY THE HECK -> Ans, Ith(wc), Enc, or OTBF Sorrows End -> Pyg, Abby, or OTB Results for Spring 11 Moves==========================Archers: A Westmark Hold Dwarves: F Mount Nimro - EAST MIRIANIC OCEANA Diamond Mines - TymwyvenneF Ella Supports A Dimmsdale - Daisy MeadowsF Ashan Supports F BEAVERSDAM - GrimheimF Dargaard Keep - Lost Woods(sc)F Never Never Land Supports F BIKINI BOTTOM - WAY THE HECKF Travers Town - FantasticaA Dimmsdale - Daisy MeadowsF Myth Drannor, no move receivedA The Julianthes - Walk of Clouds (*Fails*)A Spirit Pond - YggdrasilA Cave of Ordeals - Sorrows EndA Dragons Teeth Mtns Hold (*Dislodged*)A Knurremurre Supports A Diamond Mines - Tymwyvenne (*Cut*)A Ancient Necropolis Supports A Venatori Umbrarum - Neverpeak MtnF TILVA STRAIT Supports F BEAVERSDAM - GrimheimF WEST MIRIANIC OCEAN, no move receivedF NORTH MIRIANIC OCEAN - RUGGED COASTF CHOCOLATE RIVER Supports F NORTH MIRIANIC OCEAN - RUGGED COASTF PIRATE SHOALS - The Neverwood Faeries: F Vinyaya HoldA Oz HoldF Grimheim Hold (*Dislodged*)F The Silver city HoldF Kingdom of Hearts Hold (*Dislodged*)A Gurgi HoldA Kender Hold Gnomes: A Hundred Acre Wood - Newa River (*Bounce*)F Khemri - Hundred Acre Wood(ec) (*Disbanded*)A Troldhaugen, no move received (*Dislodged*)A Avalon - Hundred Acre Wood (*Bounce*) Knights: A Paras Derval - Kingdom of HeartsF Grissel - OrborosA Wing Hove - Ice Reach (*Fails*)A Fionavar - Dragons Teeth MtnsF Orboros - BEAVERSDAMA Sleepy Hollow - KhemriA Ice Reach - Knurremurre (*Fails*)F Owlwood - TroldhaugenA Gwynir Supports A Sleepy Hollow - KhemriA Andarien Plain Supports A Paras Derval - Kingdom of HeartsA River Saeren Supports A Fionavar - Dragons Teeth MtnsF Shady Vale - Land of SweetsF CELESTIAL DELTA Supports F Orboros - BEAVERSDAMF SUNLESS SEA Supports F Orboros - BEAVERSDAMF SABLES SWAMP Supports A Sleepy Hollow - KhemriF TROG BOG Supports F Owlwood - Troldhaugen Leprechauns: A Fitzgibbon - LubrickF Tuatha Supports A Fitzgibbon - LubrickA Hoarluk Supports A Fitzgibbon - Lubrick (*Cut*)F THE MAW - Knockshegowna (*Dislodged*) Magicians: A Tarsis Supports A Ergoth - CyrissA Ergoth - CyrissF Krynn - WEST SEA OF SHADOWS (*Fails*)F WEST SEA OF SHADOWS - Ergoth (*Bounce*) Nomads: A Spiral Castle - Dragons Teeth Mtns (*Fails*) Ogres: F Lindon - SEA OF FALLEN STARSF Knockshegowna Supports F THUNDERHEAD - THE MAWA Lubrick - Tuatha (*Dislodged*)F Horborixen - Fafhrd(ec)A Nehwon - UunoF Lankhmar - THREE RIVER LAKEA Fjord - GolgafrinchamA Kahvi - Grendel (*Fails*)A Everglot Supports A Uhl Belk - SkellingtonA Cyriss Supports F EAST SEA OF SHADOWS - Ergoth (*Dislodged*)A Fafhrd - FitzgibbonF Whoville - Hoarluk (*Fails*)A Devils Canyon - HereshA Krikkit - NowwhatA Two Towers - MordorA Great Steppes Supports A Fafhrd - FitzgibbonF Powry - AllerleirauhA Allerleirauh - MagratheaF Thirsty Desert - CandlekeepF The High Way Supports F Lindon - SEA OF FALLEN STARSF Daniloth - Newa River (*Bounce*)A Venatori Umbrarum - Neverpeak MtnF BEAVERSDAM - GrimheimF THON THALAS Supports A Cave of Ordeals - Sorrows EndF BIKINI BOTTOM - WAY THE HECKF THUNDERHEAD - THE MAWF RAZORS EDGE - RIFT CANYONF NORTH RAINBOW LAKE - THUNDERHEAD Pirates: A Prydain HoldF Sorrows End Hold (*Dislodged*)A Grendel HoldA Slightly Gulch HoldA Plains of Dust HoldA Critter Country HoldF GRIEF REEF HoldF HIGH SEAS HoldF MERMAIDS LAGOON HoldF WAY THE HECK Hold (*Dislodged*)F HORNED BAY HoldF BABEL BEACH Hold Undead: A Timberlands - PalmarisA Uhl Belk - SkellingtonF EAST SEA OF SHADOWS - Ergoth (*Bounce*)  Thanks,Mike---------
"Sit Long, Talk Much, Laugh Often" -- anon
"Shared Pain is lessened, Shared Joy is increased" --- Spider Robinson
AW: DC406: Spring 11 Results! (dc406) jerome777 Sep 13, 05:49 am
I vote 'yes' to all proposals too. Sent from my BlackBerry® smartphoneFrom: "Dance.scholar" <dance.scholar(at)gmail.com>
Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2012 06:40:02 -0400To: Rolf Loschek<rolfloschek(at)yahoo.de>Cc: <mrh(at)panix.com><mrh(at)panix.com>; <Maxatrest(at)yahoo.co.uk><Maxatrest(at)yahoo.co.uk>; Chris Bender<cbend37(at)aol.com>; dc406<dc406(at)diplomaticcorp.com>; Garry Bledsoe<kielmarch(at)hotmail.com>; Hamish Williams<catsfather(at)gmail.com>; JasonK<githraine(at)yahoo.com>; Jeff Hall<hall.jeff(at)gmail.com>; JeromePayne<jerome777(at)ymail.com>; Justin Card<justin(at)darkenedpath.com>; Mark Smith<markjsmith60(at)gmail.com>; Matt Kremer<kremer.matthew(at)gmail.com>; Michael Penner<mvpenner(at)yahoo.com>; Michael Sims<mike(at)fuzzylogicllc.net>; Pat.C C<patrickcharlescloutier(at)hotmail.com>; Philip Hahn<philip.a.hahn(at)gmail.com>; <psychosis(at)sky.com><psychosis(at)sky.com>; René Krøll<rk(at)giorsoine.dk>; tim.diplomacy<tim.diplomacy(at)gmail.com>; Warren Fleming<alwayshunted(at)hotmail.com>Subject: Re: AW: DC406: Spring 11 Results!Vote yes to all. 

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On Sep 13, 2012, at 5:29 AM, "Rolf Loschek" <rolfloschek(at)yahoo.de> wrote:


Folks , some of us are still playing, but whatever it is, it is not diplomacy any more. Let's bring this languishing game to its end.I suggest to  vote again  on the following optionsa)      Ogre solob)      Dwarfes+ogres draw, all others survival statusc)       Dwarfes+ogres+knights draw, all others survival status Rolf Von: Mike Hoffman [mailto:mrh(at)panix.com]
Gesendet: Mittwoch, 12. September 2012 06:53
An: Maxatrest(at)yahoo.co.uk; Chris Bender; Christopher Martin; dc406; Garry Bledsoe; Hamish Williams; Jason K; Jeff Hall; Jerome Payne; Justin Card; Mark Smith; Matt Kremer; Michael Penner; Michael Sims; Pat.C C; Philip Hahn; psychosis(at)sky.com; René Krøll; Rolf Loschek; tim.diplomacy; Warren Fleming
Betreff: DC406: Spring 11 Results! Hi All,Back from vacation and we're back on schedule!   Sure signs of a game coming to an end:  1) Players order All Units Hold.  This happens to small powers early on, but when 2 of the larger powers left send in those orders, well, we can probably start voting on Draw Proposals.2) Players start rushing orders and missing units.  Dwarves and Gnomes are both guilty of this. Sorry guys. Spring 11 Adjustment DEADLINE is tomorrow Wednesday 9/12 at 5 PM MST! Adjustments=============Dwarves:A Dragons Teeth Mtns -> Straw, Khaz, or OTB Faeries: F Grimheim -> Ran, or OTBF Kingdom of Hearts -> Dry, Straw, or OTB Gnomes: A Troldhaugen -> Ord, or OTB Leprechauns: F THE MAW -> Nec, Stx, Ans, Mer, Bik, or OTB
Ogres: A Lubrick -> Pow, Mer, or OTBA Cyriss -> Imm, Moo, or OTB Pirates: F WAY THE HECK -> Ans, Ith(wc), Enc, or OTBF Sorrows End -> Pyg, Abby, or OTB Results for Spring 11 Moves==========================Archers: A Westmark Hold Dwarves: F Mount Nimro - EAST MIRIANIC OCEANA Diamond Mines - TymwyvenneF Ella Supports A Dimmsdale - Daisy MeadowsF Ashan Supports F BEAVERSDAM - GrimheimF Dargaard Keep - Lost Woods(sc)F Never Never Land Supports F BIKINI BOTTOM - WAY THE HECKF Travers Town - FantasticaA Dimmsdale - Daisy MeadowsF Myth Drannor, no move receivedA The Julianthes - Walk of Clouds (*Fails*)A Spirit Pond - YggdrasilA Cave of Ordeals - Sorrows EndA Dragons Teeth Mtns Hold (*Dislodged*)A Knurremurre Supports A Diamond Mines - Tymwyvenne (*Cut*)A Ancient Necropolis Supports A Venatori Umbrarum - Neverpeak MtnF TILVA STRAIT Supports F BEAVERSDAM - GrimheimF WEST MIRIANIC OCEAN, no move receivedF NORTH MIRIANIC OCEAN - RUGGED COASTF CHOCOLATE RIVER Supports F NORTH MIRIANIC OCEAN - RUGGED COASTF PIRATE SHOALS - The Neverwood Faeries: F Vinyaya HoldA Oz HoldF Grimheim Hold (*Dislodged*)F The Silver city HoldF Kingdom of Hearts Hold (*Dislodged*)A Gurgi HoldA Kender Hold Gnomes: A Hundred Acre Wood - Newa River (*Bounce*)F Khemri - Hundred Acre Wood(ec) (*Disbanded*)A Troldhaugen, no move received (*Dislodged*)A Avalon - Hundred Acre Wood (*Bounce*) Knights: A Paras Derval - Kingdom of HeartsF Grissel - OrborosA Wing Hove - Ice Reach (*Fails*)A Fionavar - Dragons Teeth MtnsF Orboros - BEAVERSDAMA Sleepy Hollow - KhemriA Ice Reach - Knurremurre (*Fails*)F Owlwood - TroldhaugenA Gwynir Supports A Sleepy Hollow - KhemriA Andarien Plain Supports A Paras Derval - Kingdom of HeartsA River Saeren Supports A Fionavar - Dragons Teeth MtnsF Shady Vale - Land of SweetsF CELESTIAL DELTA Supports F Orboros - BEAVERSDAMF SUNLESS SEA Supports F Orboros - BEAVERSDAMF SABLES SWAMP Supports A Sleepy Hollow - KhemriF TROG BOG Supports F Owlwood - Troldhaugen Leprechauns: A Fitzgibbon - LubrickF Tuatha Supports A Fitzgibbon - LubrickA Hoarluk Supports A Fitzgibbon - Lubrick (*Cut*)F THE MAW - Knockshegowna (*Dislodged*) Magicians: A Tarsis Supports A Ergoth - CyrissA Ergoth - CyrissF Krynn - WEST SEA OF SHADOWS (*Fails*)F WEST SEA OF SHADOWS - Ergoth (*Bounce*) Nomads: A Spiral Castle - Dragons Teeth Mtns (*Fails*) Ogres: F Lindon - SEA OF FALLEN STARSF Knockshegowna Supports F THUNDERHEAD - THE MAWA Lubrick - Tuatha (*Dislodged*)F Horborixen - Fafhrd(ec)A Nehwon - UunoF Lankhmar - THREE RIVER LAKEA Fjord - GolgafrinchamA Kahvi - Grendel (*Fails*)A Everglot Supports A Uhl Belk - SkellingtonA Cyriss Supports F EAST SEA OF SHADOWS - Ergoth (*Dislodged*)A Fafhrd - FitzgibbonF Whoville - Hoarluk (*Fails*)A Devils Canyon - HereshA Krikkit - NowwhatA Two Towers - MordorA Great Steppes Supports A Fafhrd - FitzgibbonF Powry - AllerleirauhA Allerleirauh - MagratheaF Thirsty Desert - CandlekeepF The High Way Supports F Lindon - SEA OF FALLEN STARSF Daniloth - Newa River (*Bounce*)A Venatori Umbrarum - Neverpeak MtnF BEAVERSDAM - GrimheimF THON THALAS Supports A Cave of Ordeals - Sorrows EndF BIKINI BOTTOM - WAY THE HECKF THUNDERHEAD - THE MAWF RAZORS EDGE - RIFT CANYONF NORTH RAINBOW LAKE - THUNDERHEAD Pirates: A Prydain HoldF Sorrows End Hold (*Dislodged*)A Grendel HoldA Slightly Gulch HoldA Plains of Dust HoldA Critter Country HoldF GRIEF REEF HoldF HIGH SEAS HoldF MERMAIDS LAGOON HoldF WAY THE HECK Hold (*Dislodged*)F HORNED BAY HoldF BABEL BEACH Hold Undead: A Timberlands - PalmarisA Uhl Belk - SkellingtonF EAST SEA OF SHADOWS - Ergoth (*Bounce*)  Thanks,Mike---------
"Sit Long, Talk Much, Laugh Often" -- anon
"Shared Pain is lessened, Shared Joy is increased" --- Spider Robinson
AW: DC406: Spring 11 Results! (dc406) BaronVonPWN Sep 13, 09:02 am
I vote yes to option C

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Subject: AW: DC406: Spring 11 Results!
Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2012 11:29:58 +0200


Folks , some of us are still playing, but whatever it is, it is not diplomacy any more. Let's bring this languishing game to its end.I suggest to  vote again  on the following optionsa)      Ogre solob)      Dwarfes+ogres draw, all others survival statusc)       Dwarfes+ogres+knights draw, all others survival status Rolf Von: Mike Hoffman [mailto:mrh(at)panix.com]
Gesendet: Mittwoch, 12. September 2012 06:53
An: Maxatrest(at)yahoo.co.uk; Chris Bender; Christopher Martin; dc406; Garry Bledsoe; Hamish Williams; Jason K; Jeff Hall; Jerome Payne; Justin Card; Mark Smith; Matt Kremer; Michael Penner; Michael Sims; Pat.C C; Philip Hahn; psychosis(at)sky.com; René Krøll; Rolf Loschek; tim.diplomacy; Warren Fleming
Betreff: DC406: Spring 11 Results! Hi All,Back from vacation and we're back on schedule!   Sure signs of a game coming to an end:  1) Players order All Units Hold.  This happens to small powers early on, but when 2 of the larger powers left send in those orders, well, we can probably start voting on Draw Proposals.2) Players start rushing orders and missing units.  Dwarves and Gnomes are both guilty of this. Sorry guys. Spring 11 Adjustment DEADLINE is tomorrow Wednesday 9/12 at 5 PM MST! Adjustments=============Dwarves:A Dragons Teeth Mtns -> Straw, Khaz, or OTB Faeries: F Grimheim -> Ran, or OTBF Kingdom of Hearts -> Dry, Straw, or OTB Gnomes: A Troldhaugen -> Ord, or OTB Leprechauns: F THE MAW -> Nec, Stx, Ans, Mer, Bik, or OTB
Ogres: A Lubrick -> Pow, Mer, or OTBA Cyriss -> Imm, Moo, or OTB Pirates: F WAY THE HECK -> Ans, Ith(wc), Enc, or OTBF Sorrows End -> Pyg, Abby, or OTB Results for Spring 11 Moves==========================Archers: A Westmark Hold Dwarves: F Mount Nimro - EAST MIRIANIC OCEANA Diamond Mines - TymwyvenneF Ella Supports A Dimmsdale - Daisy MeadowsF Ashan Supports F BEAVERSDAM - GrimheimF Dargaard Keep - Lost Woods(sc)F Never Never Land Supports F BIKINI BOTTOM - WAY THE HECKF Travers Town - FantasticaA Dimmsdale - Daisy MeadowsF Myth Drannor, no move receivedA The Julianthes - Walk of Clouds (*Fails*)A Spirit Pond - YggdrasilA Cave of Ordeals - Sorrows EndA Dragons Teeth Mtns Hold (*Dislodged*)A Knurremurre Supports A Diamond Mines - Tymwyvenne (*Cut*)A Ancient Necropolis Supports A Venatori Umbrarum - Neverpeak MtnF TILVA STRAIT Supports F BEAVERSDAM - GrimheimF WEST MIRIANIC OCEAN, no move receivedF NORTH MIRIANIC OCEAN - RUGGED COASTF CHOCOLATE RIVER Supports F NORTH MIRIANIC OCEAN - RUGGED COASTF PIRATE SHOALS - The Neverwood Faeries: F Vinyaya HoldA Oz HoldF Grimheim Hold (*Dislodged*)F The Silver city HoldF Kingdom of Hearts Hold (*Dislodged*)A Gurgi HoldA Kender Hold Gnomes: A Hundred Acre Wood - Newa River (*Bounce*)F Khemri - Hundred Acre Wood(ec) (*Disbanded*)A Troldhaugen, no move received (*Dislodged*)A Avalon - Hundred Acre Wood (*Bounce*) Knights: A Paras Derval - Kingdom of HeartsF Grissel - OrborosA Wing Hove - Ice Reach (*Fails*)A Fionavar - Dragons Teeth MtnsF Orboros - BEAVERSDAMA Sleepy Hollow - KhemriA Ice Reach - Knurremurre (*Fails*)F Owlwood - TroldhaugenA Gwynir Supports A Sleepy Hollow - KhemriA Andarien Plain Supports A Paras Derval - Kingdom of HeartsA River Saeren Supports A Fionavar - Dragons Teeth MtnsF Shady Vale - Land of SweetsF CELESTIAL DELTA Supports F Orboros - BEAVERSDAMF SUNLESS SEA Supports F Orboros - BEAVERSDAMF SABLES SWAMP Supports A Sleepy Hollow - KhemriF TROG BOG Supports F Owlwood - Troldhaugen Leprechauns: A Fitzgibbon - LubrickF Tuatha Supports A Fitzgibbon - LubrickA Hoarluk Supports A Fitzgibbon - Lubrick (*Cut*)F THE MAW - Knockshegowna (*Dislodged*) Magicians: A Tarsis Supports A Ergoth - CyrissA Ergoth - CyrissF Krynn - WEST SEA OF SHADOWS (*Fails*)F WEST SEA OF SHADOWS - Ergoth (*Bounce*) Nomads: A Spiral Castle - Dragons Teeth Mtns (*Fails*) Ogres: F Lindon - SEA OF FALLEN STARSF Knockshegowna Supports F THUNDERHEAD - THE MAWA Lubrick - Tuatha (*Dislodged*)F Horborixen - Fafhrd(ec)A Nehwon - UunoF Lankhmar - THREE RIVER LAKEA Fjord - GolgafrinchamA Kahvi - Grendel (*Fails*)A Everglot Supports A Uhl Belk - SkellingtonA Cyriss Supports F EAST SEA OF SHADOWS - Ergoth (*Dislodged*)A Fafhrd - FitzgibbonF Whoville - Hoarluk (*Fails*)A Devils Canyon - HereshA Krikkit - NowwhatA Two Towers - MordorA Great Steppes Supports A Fafhrd - FitzgibbonF Powry - AllerleirauhA Allerleirauh - MagratheaF Thirsty Desert - CandlekeepF The High Way Supports F Lindon - SEA OF FALLEN STARSF Daniloth - Newa River (*Bounce*)A Venatori Umbrarum - Neverpeak MtnF BEAVERSDAM - GrimheimF THON THALAS Supports A Cave of Ordeals - Sorrows EndF BIKINI BOTTOM - WAY THE HECKF THUNDERHEAD - THE MAWF RAZORS EDGE - RIFT CANYONF NORTH RAINBOW LAKE - THUNDERHEAD Pirates: A Prydain HoldF Sorrows End Hold (*Dislodged*)A Grendel HoldA Slightly Gulch HoldA Plains of Dust HoldA Critter Country HoldF GRIEF REEF HoldF HIGH SEAS HoldF MERMAIDS LAGOON HoldF WAY THE HECK Hold (*Dislodged*)F HORNED BAY HoldF BABEL BEACH Hold Undead: A Timberlands - PalmarisA Uhl Belk - SkellingtonF EAST SEA OF SHADOWS - Ergoth (*Bounce*)  Thanks,Mike---------
"Sit Long, Talk Much, Laugh Often" -- anon
"Shared Pain is lessened, Shared Joy is increased" --- Spider Robinson
AW: DC406: Spring 11 Results! (dc406) offdisc Sep 13, 06:31 pm
Guys,
Good to get your votes on this in public, but all draw proposals have to be released by me and collected via private email to me.
I will release several draw proposals later tonight when I release the Spring Retreats.


Thanks,
Mike
---------
"Sit Long, Talk Much, Laugh Often" -- anon
"Shared Pain is lessened, Shared Joy is increased" --- Spider Robinson




On Thu, Sep 13, 2012 at 8:02 AM, Pat.C C <patrickcharlescloutier(at)hotmail.com> wrote:



I vote yes to option C

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Subject: AW: DC406: Spring 11 Results!
Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2012 11:29:58 +0200


Folks , some of us are still playing, but whatever it is, it is not diplomacy any more. Let's bring this languishing game to its end.
I suggest to  vote again  on the following optionsa)      Ogre solo
b)      Dwarfes+ogres draw, all others survival status
c)       Dwarfes+ogres+knights draw, all others survival status
 Rolf
 
Von: Mike Hoffman [mailto:mrh(at)panix.com]

Gesendet: Mittwoch, 12. September 2012 06:53
An: Maxatrest(at)yahoo.co.uk; Chris Bender; Christopher Martin; dc406; Garry Bledsoe; Hamish Williams; Jason K; Jeff Hall; Jerome Payne; Justin Card; Mark Smith; Matt Kremer; Michael Penner; Michael Sims; Pat.C C; Philip Hahn; psychosis(at)sky.com; René Krøll; Rolf Loschek; tim.diplomacy; Warren Fleming

Betreff: DC406: Spring 11 Results! Hi All,Back from vacation and we're back on schedule!   Sure signs of a game coming to an end:  
1) Players order All Units Hold.  This happens to small powers early on, but when 2 of the larger powers left send in those orders, well, we can probably start voting on Draw Proposals.2) Players start rushing orders and missing units.  Dwarves and Gnomes are both guilty of this. Sorry guys.
 Spring 11 Adjustment DEADLINE is tomorrow Wednesday 9/12 at 5 PM MST! Adjustments=============Dwarves:
A Dragons Teeth Mtns -> Straw, Khaz, or OTB Faeries: F Grimheim -> Ran, or OTBF Kingdom of Hearts -> Dry, Straw, or OTB 
Gnomes: A Troldhaugen -> Ord, or OTB Leprechauns: F THE MAW -> Nec, Stx, Ans, Mer, Bik, or OTB
Ogres: A Lubrick -> Pow, Mer, or OTB
A Cyriss -> Imm, Moo, or OTB Pirates: F WAY THE HECK -> Ans, Ith(wc), Enc, or OTBF Sorrows End -> Pyg, Abby, or OTB
 Results for Spring 11 Moves==========================Archers: A Westmark Hold Dwarves: F Mount Nimro - EAST MIRIANIC OCEAN
A Diamond Mines - TymwyvenneF Ella Supports A Dimmsdale - Daisy MeadowsF Ashan Supports F BEAVERSDAM - GrimheimF Dargaard Keep - Lost Woods(sc)
F Never Never Land Supports F BIKINI BOTTOM - WAY THE HECKF Travers Town - FantasticaA Dimmsdale - Daisy MeadowsF Myth Drannor, no move received
A The Julianthes - Walk of Clouds (*Fails*)A Spirit Pond - YggdrasilA Cave of Ordeals - Sorrows EndA Dragons Teeth Mtns Hold (*Dislodged*)A Knurremurre Supports A Diamond Mines - Tymwyvenne (*Cut*)
A Ancient Necropolis Supports A Venatori Umbrarum - Neverpeak MtnF TILVA STRAIT Supports F BEAVERSDAM - GrimheimF WEST MIRIANIC OCEAN, no move receivedF NORTH MIRIANIC OCEAN - RUGGED COAST
F CHOCOLATE RIVER Supports F NORTH MIRIANIC OCEAN - RUGGED COASTF PIRATE SHOALS - The Neverwood Faeries: F Vinyaya Hold
A Oz HoldF Grimheim Hold (*Dislodged*)F The Silver city HoldF Kingdom of Hearts Hold (*Dislodged*)A Gurgi HoldA Kender Hold
 Gnomes: A Hundred Acre Wood - Newa River (*Bounce*)F Khemri - Hundred Acre Wood(ec) (*Disbanded*)A Troldhaugen, no move received (*Dislodged*)
A Avalon - Hundred Acre Wood (*Bounce*) Knights: A Paras Derval - Kingdom of HeartsF Grissel - OrborosA Wing Hove - Ice Reach (*Fails*)
A Fionavar - Dragons Teeth MtnsF Orboros - BEAVERSDAMA Sleepy Hollow - KhemriA Ice Reach - Knurremurre (*Fails*)F Owlwood - Troldhaugen
A Gwynir Supports A Sleepy Hollow - KhemriA Andarien Plain Supports A Paras Derval - Kingdom of HeartsA River Saeren Supports A Fionavar - Dragons Teeth Mtns
F Shady Vale - Land of SweetsF CELESTIAL DELTA Supports F Orboros - BEAVERSDAMF SUNLESS SEA Supports F Orboros - BEAVERSDAMF SABLES SWAMP Supports A Sleepy Hollow - Khemri
F TROG BOG Supports F Owlwood - Troldhaugen Leprechauns: A Fitzgibbon - LubrickF Tuatha Supports A Fitzgibbon - Lubrick
A Hoarluk Supports A Fitzgibbon - Lubrick (*Cut*)F THE MAW - Knockshegowna (*Dislodged*) Magicians: A Tarsis Supports A Ergoth - Cyriss
A Ergoth - CyrissF Krynn - WEST SEA OF SHADOWS (*Fails*)F WEST SEA OF SHADOWS - Ergoth (*Bounce*) Nomads: A Spiral Castle - Dragons Teeth Mtns (*Fails*)
 Ogres: F Lindon - SEA OF FALLEN STARSF Knockshegowna Supports F THUNDERHEAD - THE MAWA Lubrick - Tuatha (*Dislodged*)
F Horborixen - Fafhrd(ec)A Nehwon - UunoF Lankhmar - THREE RIVER LAKEA Fjord - GolgafrinchamA Kahvi - Grendel (*Fails*)A Everglot Supports A Uhl Belk - Skellington
A Cyriss Supports F EAST SEA OF SHADOWS - Ergoth (*Dislodged*)A Fafhrd - FitzgibbonF Whoville - Hoarluk (*Fails*)A Devils Canyon - Heresh
A Krikkit - NowwhatA Two Towers - MordorA Great Steppes Supports A Fafhrd - FitzgibbonF Powry - AllerleirauhA Allerleirauh - Magrathea
F Thirsty Desert - CandlekeepF The High Way Supports F Lindon - SEA OF FALLEN STARSF Daniloth - Newa River (*Bounce*)A Venatori Umbrarum - Neverpeak Mtn
F BEAVERSDAM - GrimheimF THON THALAS Supports A Cave of Ordeals - Sorrows EndF BIKINI BOTTOM - WAY THE HECKF THUNDERHEAD - THE MAWF RAZORS EDGE - RIFT CANYON
F NORTH RAINBOW LAKE - THUNDERHEAD Pirates: A Prydain HoldF Sorrows End Hold (*Dislodged*)A Grendel Hold
A Slightly Gulch HoldA Plains of Dust HoldA Critter Country HoldF GRIEF REEF HoldF HIGH SEAS HoldF MERMAIDS LAGOON Hold
F WAY THE HECK Hold (*Dislodged*)F HORNED BAY HoldF BABEL BEACH Hold Undead: A Timberlands - PalmarisA Uhl Belk - Skellington
F EAST SEA OF SHADOWS - Ergoth (*Bounce*)  Thanks,Mike---------
"Sit Long, Talk Much, Laugh Often" -- anon

"Shared Pain is lessened, Shared Joy is increased" --- Spider Robinson
CORRECTION: DC406: Spring 11 Results! (With Maps!!... - offdisc   (Sep 12, 2012, 1:47 pm)
It has been pointed out that the GM misread an order that affects position and adjustements.
The Nomads, it turns out, did not thumb their nose at the Dwarves, but has stayed loyal to the cause.
The Dwarves welcome this news.... the Knights, on the other hand, may feel slighted.


Nomads:  Spiral Castle Support Dragon's Teeth Mountain.
Dwarves: Dragon's Teeth is NOT Dislodged.
Knights: Fion -> Drag BOUNCES.

Thank goodness this isn't the Fall and I have to worry about builds! Smile


New Map will be released with the other adjustments.

Thanks,
Mike
---------
"Sit Long, Talk Much, Laugh Often" -- anon
"Shared Pain is lessened, Shared Joy is increased" --- Spider Robinson





On Tue, Sep 11, 2012 at 10:55 PM, Mike Hoffman <mrh(at)panix.com> wrote:



On Tue, Sep 11, 2012 at 10:53 PM, Mike Hoffman <mrh(at)panix.com> wrote:

Hi All,Back from vacation and we're back on schedule!  
Sure signs of a game coming to an end:  1) Players order All Units Hold.  This happens to small powers early on, but when 2 of the larger powers left send in those orders, well, we can probably start voting on Draw Proposals.

2) Players start rushing orders and missing units.  Dwarves and Gnomes are both guilty of this. Sorry guys.
Spring 11 Adjustment DEADLINE is tomorrow Wednesday 9/12 at 5 PM MST!


Adjustments=============Dwarves:A Dragons Teeth Mtns -> Straw, Khaz, or OTB
Faeries: F Grimheim -> Ran, or OTB
F Kingdom of Hearts -> Dry, Straw, or OTB
Gnomes: A Troldhaugen -> Ord, or OTB
Leprechauns: 
F THE MAW -> Nec, Stx, Ans, Mer, Bik, or OTB
Ogres: A Lubrick -> Pow, Mer, or OTBA Cyriss -> Imm, Moo, or OTB

Pirates: F WAY THE HECK -> Ans, Ith(wc), Enc, or OTBF Sorrows End -> Pyg, Abby, or OTB

Results for Spring 11 Moves
==========================Archers: A Westmark Hold
Dwarves: F Mount Nimro - EAST MIRIANIC OCEANA Diamond Mines - TymwyvenneF Ella Supports A Dimmsdale - Daisy Meadows

F Ashan Supports F BEAVERSDAM - GrimheimF Dargaard Keep - Lost Woods(sc)F Never Never Land Supports F BIKINI BOTTOM - WAY THE HECKF Travers Town - FantasticaA Dimmsdale - Daisy Meadows

F Myth Drannor, no move receivedA The Julianthes - Walk of Clouds (*Fails*)A Spirit Pond - YggdrasilA Cave of Ordeals - Sorrows EndA Dragons Teeth Mtns Hold (*Dislodged*)

A Knurremurre Supports A Diamond Mines - Tymwyvenne (*Cut*)A Ancient Necropolis Supports A Venatori Umbrarum - Neverpeak MtnF TILVA STRAIT Supports F BEAVERSDAM - GrimheimF WEST MIRIANIC OCEAN, no move received

F NORTH MIRIANIC OCEAN - RUGGED COASTF CHOCOLATE RIVER Supports F NORTH MIRIANIC OCEAN - RUGGED COASTF PIRATE SHOALS - The Neverwood
Faeries: F Vinyaya Hold

A Oz HoldF Grimheim Hold (*Dislodged*)F The Silver city HoldF Kingdom of Hearts Hold (*Dislodged*)A Gurgi HoldA Kender Hold
Gnomes: 

A Hundred Acre Wood - Newa River (*Bounce*)F Khemri - Hundred Acre Wood(ec) (*Disbanded*)A Troldhaugen, no move received (*Dislodged*)A Avalon - Hundred Acre Wood (*Bounce*)


Knights: A Paras Derval - Kingdom of HeartsF Grissel - OrborosA Wing Hove - Ice Reach (*Fails*)A Fionavar - Dragons Teeth MtnsF Orboros - BEAVERSDAM

A Sleepy Hollow - KhemriA Ice Reach - Knurremurre (*Fails*)F Owlwood - TroldhaugenA Gwynir Supports A Sleepy Hollow - KhemriA Andarien Plain Supports A Paras Derval - Kingdom of Hearts

A River Saeren Supports A Fionavar - Dragons Teeth MtnsF Shady Vale - Land of SweetsF CELESTIAL DELTA Supports F Orboros - BEAVERSDAMF SUNLESS SEA Supports F Orboros - BEAVERSDAM

F SABLES SWAMP Supports A Sleepy Hollow - KhemriF TROG BOG Supports F Owlwood - Troldhaugen
Leprechauns: A Fitzgibbon - LubrickF Tuatha Supports A Fitzgibbon - Lubrick

A Hoarluk Supports A Fitzgibbon - Lubrick (*Cut*)F THE MAW - Knockshegowna (*Dislodged*)
Magicians: A Tarsis Supports A Ergoth - CyrissA Ergoth - Cyriss

F Krynn - WEST SEA OF SHADOWS (*Fails*)F WEST SEA OF SHADOWS - Ergoth (*Bounce*)
Nomads: A Spiral Castle - Dragons Teeth Mtns (*Fails*)
Ogres: 

F Lindon - SEA OF FALLEN STARSF Knockshegowna Supports F THUNDERHEAD - THE MAWA Lubrick - Tuatha (*Dislodged*)F Horborixen - Fafhrd(ec)A Nehwon - UunoF Lankhmar - THREE RIVER LAKE

A Fjord - GolgafrinchamA Kahvi - Grendel (*Fails*)A Everglot Supports A Uhl Belk - SkellingtonA Cyriss Supports F EAST SEA OF SHADOWS - Ergoth (*Dislodged*)A Fafhrd - Fitzgibbon

F Whoville - Hoarluk (*Fails*)A Devils Canyon - HereshA Krikkit - NowwhatA Two Towers - MordorA Great Steppes Supports A Fafhrd - FitzgibbonF Powry - Allerleirauh

A Allerleirauh - MagratheaF Thirsty Desert - CandlekeepF The High Way Supports F Lindon - SEA OF FALLEN STARSF Daniloth - Newa River (*Bounce*)A Venatori Umbrarum - Neverpeak Mtn

F BEAVERSDAM - GrimheimF THON THALAS Supports A Cave of Ordeals - Sorrows EndF BIKINI BOTTOM - WAY THE HECKF THUNDERHEAD - THE MAWF RAZORS EDGE - RIFT CANYONF NORTH RAINBOW LAKE - THUNDERHEAD


Pirates: A Prydain HoldF Sorrows End Hold (*Dislodged*)A Grendel HoldA Slightly Gulch HoldA Plains of Dust HoldA Critter Country Hold

F GRIEF REEF HoldF HIGH SEAS HoldF MERMAIDS LAGOON HoldF WAY THE HECK Hold (*Dislodged*)F HORNED BAY HoldF BABEL BEACH Hold
Undead: 

A Timberlands - PalmarisA Uhl Belk - SkellingtonF EAST SEA OF SHADOWS - Ergoth (*Bounce*)

Thanks,Mike---------
"Sit Long, Talk Much, Laugh Often" -- anon


"Shared Pain is lessened, Shared Joy is increased" --- Spider Robinson

[Reply]

DC406: Spring 11 Results! (With Maps!!!) - offdisc   (Sep 11, 2012, 11:55 pm)
On Tue, Sep 11, 2012 at 10:53 PM, Mike Hoffman <mrh(at)panix.com> wrote:

Hi All,Back from vacation and we're back on schedule!  
Sure signs of a game coming to an end:  1) Players order All Units Hold.  This happens to small powers early on, but when 2 of the larger powers left send in those orders, well, we can probably start voting on Draw Proposals.
2) Players start rushing orders and missing units.  Dwarves and Gnomes are both guilty of this. Sorry guys.
Spring 11 Adjustment DEADLINE is tomorrow Wednesday 9/12 at 5 PM MST!

Adjustments=============Dwarves:A Dragons Teeth Mtns -> Straw, Khaz, or OTB
Faeries: F Grimheim -> Ran, or OTB
F Kingdom of Hearts -> Dry, Straw, or OTB
Gnomes: A Troldhaugen -> Ord, or OTB
Leprechauns: 
F THE MAW -> Nec, Stx, Ans, Mer, Bik, or OTB
Ogres: A Lubrick -> Pow, Mer, or OTBA Cyriss -> Imm, Moo, or OTB

Pirates: F WAY THE HECK -> Ans, Ith(wc), Enc, or OTBF Sorrows End -> Pyg, Abby, or OTB

Results for Spring 11 Moves
==========================Archers: A Westmark Hold
Dwarves: F Mount Nimro - EAST MIRIANIC OCEANA Diamond Mines - TymwyvenneF Ella Supports A Dimmsdale - Daisy Meadows
F Ashan Supports F BEAVERSDAM - GrimheimF Dargaard Keep - Lost Woods(sc)F Never Never Land Supports F BIKINI BOTTOM - WAY THE HECKF Travers Town - FantasticaA Dimmsdale - Daisy Meadows
F Myth Drannor, no move receivedA The Julianthes - Walk of Clouds (*Fails*)A Spirit Pond - YggdrasilA Cave of Ordeals - Sorrows EndA Dragons Teeth Mtns Hold (*Dislodged*)
A Knurremurre Supports A Diamond Mines - Tymwyvenne (*Cut*)A Ancient Necropolis Supports A Venatori Umbrarum - Neverpeak MtnF TILVA STRAIT Supports F BEAVERSDAM - GrimheimF WEST MIRIANIC OCEAN, no move received
F NORTH MIRIANIC OCEAN - RUGGED COASTF CHOCOLATE RIVER Supports F NORTH MIRIANIC OCEAN - RUGGED COASTF PIRATE SHOALS - The Neverwood
Faeries: F Vinyaya Hold
A Oz HoldF Grimheim Hold (*Dislodged*)F The Silver city HoldF Kingdom of Hearts Hold (*Dislodged*)A Gurgi HoldA Kender Hold
Gnomes: 
A Hundred Acre Wood - Newa River (*Bounce*)F Khemri - Hundred Acre Wood(ec) (*Disbanded*)A Troldhaugen, no move received (*Dislodged*)A Avalon - Hundred Acre Wood (*Bounce*)

Knights: A Paras Derval - Kingdom of HeartsF Grissel - OrborosA Wing Hove - Ice Reach (*Fails*)A Fionavar - Dragons Teeth MtnsF Orboros - BEAVERSDAM
A Sleepy Hollow - KhemriA Ice Reach - Knurremurre (*Fails*)F Owlwood - TroldhaugenA Gwynir Supports A Sleepy Hollow - KhemriA Andarien Plain Supports A Paras Derval - Kingdom of Hearts
A River Saeren Supports A Fionavar - Dragons Teeth MtnsF Shady Vale - Land of SweetsF CELESTIAL DELTA Supports F Orboros - BEAVERSDAMF SUNLESS SEA Supports F Orboros - BEAVERSDAM
F SABLES SWAMP Supports A Sleepy Hollow - KhemriF TROG BOG Supports F Owlwood - Troldhaugen
Leprechauns: A Fitzgibbon - LubrickF Tuatha Supports A Fitzgibbon - Lubrick
A Hoarluk Supports A Fitzgibbon - Lubrick (*Cut*)F THE MAW - Knockshegowna (*Dislodged*)
Magicians: A Tarsis Supports A Ergoth - CyrissA Ergoth - Cyriss
F Krynn - WEST SEA OF SHADOWS (*Fails*)F WEST SEA OF SHADOWS - Ergoth (*Bounce*)
Nomads: A Spiral Castle - Dragons Teeth Mtns (*Fails*)
Ogres: 
F Lindon - SEA OF FALLEN STARSF Knockshegowna Supports F THUNDERHEAD - THE MAWA Lubrick - Tuatha (*Dislodged*)F Horborixen - Fafhrd(ec)A Nehwon - UunoF Lankhmar - THREE RIVER LAKE
A Fjord - GolgafrinchamA Kahvi - Grendel (*Fails*)A Everglot Supports A Uhl Belk - SkellingtonA Cyriss Supports F EAST SEA OF SHADOWS - Ergoth (*Dislodged*)A Fafhrd - Fitzgibbon
F Whoville - Hoarluk (*Fails*)A Devils Canyon - HereshA Krikkit - NowwhatA Two Towers - MordorA Great Steppes Supports A Fafhrd - FitzgibbonF Powry - Allerleirauh
A Allerleirauh - MagratheaF Thirsty Desert - CandlekeepF The High Way Supports F Lindon - SEA OF FALLEN STARSF Daniloth - Newa River (*Bounce*)A Venatori Umbrarum - Neverpeak Mtn
F BEAVERSDAM - GrimheimF THON THALAS Supports A Cave of Ordeals - Sorrows EndF BIKINI BOTTOM - WAY THE HECKF THUNDERHEAD - THE MAWF RAZORS EDGE - RIFT CANYONF NORTH RAINBOW LAKE - THUNDERHEAD

Pirates: A Prydain HoldF Sorrows End Hold (*Dislodged*)A Grendel HoldA Slightly Gulch HoldA Plains of Dust HoldA Critter Country Hold
F GRIEF REEF HoldF HIGH SEAS HoldF MERMAIDS LAGOON HoldF WAY THE HECK Hold (*Dislodged*)F HORNED BAY HoldF BABEL BEACH Hold
Undead: 
A Timberlands - PalmarisA Uhl Belk - SkellingtonF EAST SEA OF SHADOWS - Ergoth (*Bounce*)

Thanks,Mike---------
"Sit Long, Talk Much, Laugh Often" -- anon

"Shared Pain is lessened, Shared Joy is increased" --- Spider Robinson

[Reply]

DC406: Spring 11 Results! - offdisc   (Sep 11, 2012, 11:53 pm)
Hi All,Back from vacation and we're back on schedule!  
Sure signs of a game coming to an end:  1) Players order All Units Hold.  This happens to small powers early on, but when 2 of the larger powers left send in those orders, well, we can probably start voting on Draw Proposals.
2) Players start rushing orders and missing units.  Dwarves and Gnomes are both guilty of this. Sorry guys.
Spring 11 Adjustment DEADLINE is tomorrow Wednesday 9/12 at 5 PM MST!

Adjustments=============Dwarves:A Dragons Teeth Mtns -> Straw, Khaz, or OTB
Faeries: F Grimheim -> Ran, or OTB
F Kingdom of Hearts -> Dry, Straw, or OTB
Gnomes: A Troldhaugen -> Ord, or OTB
Leprechauns: 
F THE MAW -> Nec, Stx, Ans, Mer, Bik, or OTB
Ogres: A Lubrick -> Pow, Mer, or OTBA Cyriss -> Imm, Moo, or OTB

Pirates: F WAY THE HECK -> Ans, Ith(wc), Enc, or OTBF Sorrows End -> Pyg, Abby, or OTB

Results for Spring 11 Moves
==========================Archers: A Westmark Hold
Dwarves: F Mount Nimro - EAST MIRIANIC OCEANA Diamond Mines - TymwyvenneF Ella Supports A Dimmsdale - Daisy Meadows
F Ashan Supports F BEAVERSDAM - GrimheimF Dargaard Keep - Lost Woods(sc)F Never Never Land Supports F BIKINI BOTTOM - WAY THE HECKF Travers Town - FantasticaA Dimmsdale - Daisy Meadows
F Myth Drannor, no move receivedA The Julianthes - Walk of Clouds (*Fails*)A Spirit Pond - YggdrasilA Cave of Ordeals - Sorrows EndA Dragons Teeth Mtns Hold (*Dislodged*)
A Knurremurre Supports A Diamond Mines - Tymwyvenne (*Cut*)A Ancient Necropolis Supports A Venatori Umbrarum - Neverpeak MtnF TILVA STRAIT Supports F BEAVERSDAM - GrimheimF WEST MIRIANIC OCEAN, no move received
F NORTH MIRIANIC OCEAN - RUGGED COASTF CHOCOLATE RIVER Supports F NORTH MIRIANIC OCEAN - RUGGED COASTF PIRATE SHOALS - The Neverwood
Faeries: F Vinyaya Hold
A Oz HoldF Grimheim Hold (*Dislodged*)F The Silver city HoldF Kingdom of Hearts Hold (*Dislodged*)A Gurgi HoldA Kender Hold
Gnomes: 
A Hundred Acre Wood - Newa River (*Bounce*)F Khemri - Hundred Acre Wood(ec) (*Disbanded*)A Troldhaugen, no move received (*Dislodged*)A Avalon - Hundred Acre Wood (*Bounce*)

Knights: A Paras Derval - Kingdom of HeartsF Grissel - OrborosA Wing Hove - Ice Reach (*Fails*)A Fionavar - Dragons Teeth MtnsF Orboros - BEAVERSDAM
A Sleepy Hollow - KhemriA Ice Reach - Knurremurre (*Fails*)F Owlwood - TroldhaugenA Gwynir Supports A Sleepy Hollow - KhemriA Andarien Plain Supports A Paras Derval - Kingdom of Hearts
A River Saeren Supports A Fionavar - Dragons Teeth MtnsF Shady Vale - Land of SweetsF CELESTIAL DELTA Supports F Orboros - BEAVERSDAMF SUNLESS SEA Supports F Orboros - BEAVERSDAM
F SABLES SWAMP Supports A Sleepy Hollow - KhemriF TROG BOG Supports F Owlwood - Troldhaugen
Leprechauns: A Fitzgibbon - LubrickF Tuatha Supports A Fitzgibbon - Lubrick
A Hoarluk Supports A Fitzgibbon - Lubrick (*Cut*)F THE MAW - Knockshegowna (*Dislodged*)
Magicians: A Tarsis Supports A Ergoth - CyrissA Ergoth - Cyriss
F Krynn - WEST SEA OF SHADOWS (*Fails*)F WEST SEA OF SHADOWS - Ergoth (*Bounce*)
Nomads: A Spiral Castle - Dragons Teeth Mtns (*Fails*)
Ogres: 
F Lindon - SEA OF FALLEN STARSF Knockshegowna Supports F THUNDERHEAD - THE MAWA Lubrick - Tuatha (*Dislodged*)F Horborixen - Fafhrd(ec)A Nehwon - UunoF Lankhmar - THREE RIVER LAKE
A Fjord - GolgafrinchamA Kahvi - Grendel (*Fails*)A Everglot Supports A Uhl Belk - SkellingtonA Cyriss Supports F EAST SEA OF SHADOWS - Ergoth (*Dislodged*)A Fafhrd - Fitzgibbon
F Whoville - Hoarluk (*Fails*)A Devils Canyon - HereshA Krikkit - NowwhatA Two Towers - MordorA Great Steppes Supports A Fafhrd - FitzgibbonF Powry - Allerleirauh
A Allerleirauh - MagratheaF Thirsty Desert - CandlekeepF The High Way Supports F Lindon - SEA OF FALLEN STARSF Daniloth - Newa River (*Bounce*)A Venatori Umbrarum - Neverpeak Mtn
F BEAVERSDAM - GrimheimF THON THALAS Supports A Cave of Ordeals - Sorrows EndF BIKINI BOTTOM - WAY THE HECKF THUNDERHEAD - THE MAWF RAZORS EDGE - RIFT CANYONF NORTH RAINBOW LAKE - THUNDERHEAD

Pirates: A Prydain HoldF Sorrows End Hold (*Dislodged*)A Grendel HoldA Slightly Gulch HoldA Plains of Dust HoldA Critter Country Hold
F GRIEF REEF HoldF HIGH SEAS HoldF MERMAIDS LAGOON HoldF WAY THE HECK Hold (*Dislodged*)F HORNED BAY HoldF BABEL BEACH Hold
Undead: 
A Timberlands - PalmarisA Uhl Belk - SkellingtonF EAST SEA OF SHADOWS - Ergoth (*Bounce*)

Thanks,Mike---------
"Sit Long, Talk Much, Laugh Often" -- anon

"Shared Pain is lessened, Shared Joy is increased" --- Spider Robinson

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DC406: DEADLINE reminder!!! - DancingQueen   (Sep 10, 2012, 11:47 am)
faerie units hold.

On Mon, Sep 10, 2012 at 12:45 PM, Mike Hoffman <mrh(at)panix.com> wrote:

Spring 11 Deadline is **tomorrow*** at 5PM MST!!!!
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"Sit Long, Talk Much, Laugh Often" -- anon

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DC406: DEADLINE reminder!!! - offdisc   (Sep 10, 2012, 11:45 am)
Spring 11 Deadline is **tomorrow*** at 5PM MST!!!!
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"Sit Long, Talk Much, Laugh Often" -- anon
"Shared Pain is lessened, Shared Joy is increased" --- Spider Robinson




On Wed, Aug 29, 2012 at 7:29 PM, Mike Hoffman <mrh(at)panix.com> wrote:

Hi All,Long deadline due to various vacations, mine especially.  Talk amongst yourselves. SmileDeadline for Spring 11 will be Tuesday 9/11 at 5pm MST. 

Adjustments for Fall 10:
=====================Archers: Remove A Drynwyn
Dwarves: Build F Mount NimroBuild A The JulianthesBuild A Diamond MinesBuild A Spirit Pond
Build F Myth Drannor
Faeries: Remove A Strawberry FieldsRemove A Land of Sweets
Knights: Build A Wing Hove

Leprechauns: 
Remove F Enchanted IslesRemove A NecronomiconRemove F Ithin'Carthia(wc)
Magicians: Remove A ImmorenRemove F Lost Woods(sc)

Nomads: Build waived
Ogres: Build F WhovilleBuild F LankhmarBuild A KrikkitBuild A Devils CanyonBuild A NehwonBuild waived

Trolls: Remove A Pygmy

See y'all in a week or so!Thanks,Mike---------
"Sit Long, Talk Much, Laugh Often" -- anon

"Shared Pain is lessened, Shared Joy is increased" --- Spider Robinson

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DC406: Fall 10 Final! - offdisc   (Aug 29, 2012, 8:29 pm)
Hi All,Long deadline due to various vacations, mine especially.  Talk amongst yourselves. SmileDeadline for Spring 11 will be Tuesday 9/11 at 5pm MST. 

Adjustments for Fall 10:
=====================Archers: Remove A Drynwyn
Dwarves: Build F Mount NimroBuild A The JulianthesBuild A Diamond MinesBuild A Spirit Pond
Build F Myth Drannor
Faeries: Remove A Strawberry FieldsRemove A Land of Sweets
Knights: Build A Wing Hove
Leprechauns: 
Remove F Enchanted IslesRemove A NecronomiconRemove F Ithin'Carthia(wc)
Magicians: Remove A ImmorenRemove F Lost Woods(sc)

Nomads: Build waived
Ogres: Build F WhovilleBuild F LankhmarBuild A KrikkitBuild A Devils CanyonBuild A NehwonBuild waived

Trolls: Remove A Pygmy

See y'all in a week or so!Thanks,Mike---------
"Sit Long, Talk Much, Laugh Often" -- anon

"Shared Pain is lessened, Shared Joy is increased" --- Spider Robinson

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DC406: From a concerned citizen - offdisc   (Aug 28, 2012, 5:52 pm)
>> On Tue, Aug 28, 2012 at 10:11 AM, Concerned Citizen <Someone(at)somewhere.world> wrote:
>> You are going to get us builds before you disappear, right?  We're approaching a week with no update...



Yes, yes!  I certainly will divulge who built what, who disbanded where, and when the next deadline will be.
But we're on a hiatus, so I figure I'll stretch it out a little bit and keep you on the edge of your seats so you don't forget about the game.


Results will be out Wednesday night.  All adjustments are in (there was one slowpoke). Round has been processed. However, I was running out the door and haven't been home enough in the past 2 days to get the map updated and an email completed.


Do I need a vacation? You Betcha!

Mike

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DC406: Fall 10 Retreats - offdisc   (Aug 22, 2012, 11:58 pm)
Hi All, Retreats are in!  Adjustments deadline is Thursday at 5 PM. We're in no rush since we have a long vacation extension due to one player and then your humble GM.  
Retreats for Fall 10:
Faeries: A Spiral Castle - Strawberry FieldsLeprechauns: A Lubrick - FitzgibbonMagicians: A Grendel - Immoren                   F Dargaard Keep - Lost Woods(sc)

With so much going on Politically this week in the US, the headers for the adjustments could be so easily... and yet, some would probably find them offensive.  I can understand Religion and Dip not mixing, but isn't Politics what Diplomacy is all about?  

I'll avoid the hot button issues and go the safe route: American Football and pre-season outlooks. Sure to offend some, but not as deeply.
We do indeed say Goodbye to Garry/Trolls.  Thanks for playing all the way through!

Chargers:---------------Dwarves:     Supp 20  Build  5 Knights:     Supp 16  Build  1 Nomads:      Supp  2  Build  1 Ogres:       Supp 29  Build  6 

Dolphins:--------------Archers:     Supp  1  Remove  1 Faeries:     Supp  7  Remove  2 Leprechauns: Supp  4  Remove  3 Magicians:   Supp  4  Remove  2 

Jets------Gnomes:      Supp  4  Build  0 Pirates:     Supp 12  Build  0 Undead:      Supp  3  Build  0 

Los Angeles (pick a team)-------------------------------------Barbarians:  Supp  0  Build  0 Centaurs:    Supp  0  Build  0 Elves:       Supp  0  Build  0 Hobbits:     Supp  0  Build  0 
Rogues:      Supp  0  Build  0 Samurai:     Supp  0  Build  0 Trolls:      Supp  0  Remove  1  (**AUTO**) Wizards:     Supp  0  Build  0 

Thanks,Mike---------
"Sit Long, Talk Much, Laugh Often" -- anon
"Shared Pain is lessened, Shared Joy is increased" --- Spider Robinson

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DC406: Fall 10 Results REDO!!!! - offdisc   (Aug 20, 2012, 7:50 am)
Warning: To future GMs, do not attempt to process orders while randomly passing out from exhaustion. Chances are very low that they will be correct. Should that have been obvious? Probably. But I believe the results show that my state of mind was not clear in the first place. Smile

One move was incorrectly entered (Nomads: Koh -> Spi), which led to a new retreat (Fairie Spi) and one retreat was missed (Mags Dar).Also the Goodbyes were totally off.  

So, let's try it again, huh?
With the correct Nomad move, we do NOT say Goodbye to the Nomads.  Rumors of Archers departure have also been greatly exaggerated, as Star is still in their command. I will wait for the retreats to process before announcing who really is leaving us this turn.

Retreats:Faeries: A Spiral Castle --> Straw, or OTBLeprechauns: A Lubrick --> Mer, Fitz, or OTBMagicians: A Grendel --> Imm, or OTB                     F Dargaard Keep --> Woo, PoD, or OTB

Retreat deadline is Tuesday, Aug. 8/21 (at) 5 PM.

Results for Fall 10:------------------------------Archers: 
A Westmark HoldA Drynwyn Hold
Dwarves: A Diamond Mines - KnurremurreF Ella Supports F CHOCOLATE RIVER - OzA Gumdrop Isle - DimmsdaleA Spirit Pond - Ancient Necropolis
F Walk of Clouds - AshanF Palmaris - Dargaard KeepA Dragons Teeth Mtns Supports A Kingdom of Hearts - Spiral CastleA Tymwyvenne - Cave of OrdealsF CHURNING REACH - WEST MIRIANIC OCEAN
F WEST MIRIANIC OCEAN - TILVA STRAITF NORTH MIRIANIC OCEAN Convoys A Gumdrop Isle - DimmsdaleF CHOCOLATE RIVER - Oz (*Fails*)F RIFT CANYON - Travers TownF GULF OF LUHN - PIRATE SHOALS
F SEA OF FALLEN STARS - Never Never Land
Faeries: F Vinyaya Supports A OzA Oz Supports F Vinyaya (*Cut*)F The Silver city Supports A Pygmy - Orboros
F Ashan - GrimheimA Spiral Castle Supports F Strawberry Fields - Kingdom of Hearts (*Dislodged*)A Kender Supports F Palmaris - Dargaard KeepA Land of Sweets - Fionavar (*Fails*)
F Strawberry Fields - Kingdom of HeartsA Ranaar - Gurgi
Gnomes: A Hundred Acre Wood Supports F KhemriF Khemri HoldA Troldhaugen HoldA Avalon Hold

Knights: F Tumnus - SABLES SWAMPA Fionavar Supports A Heavens Well - River Saeren (*Cut*)F Orboros HoldA Sleepy Hollow - Khemri (*Fails*)A Ice Reach Hold
F Calormen - GrisselF Owlwood - Troldhaugen (*Fails*)A Gwynir Supports A Sleepy Hollow - KhemriA Andarien Plain Supports A River Saeren - Paras DervalA Heavens Well - River Saeren
A River Saeren - Paras DervalF Shady Vale Supports A FionavarF CELESTIAL DELTA Supports F BEAVERSDAM - Grimheim (*Void*)F SUNLESS SEA Supports F OrborosF TROG BOG Supports F Owlwood - Troldhaugen

Leprechauns: A Lubrick - Hoarluk (*Dislodged*)A Fafhrd - HoarlukF Enchanted Isles - WAY THE HECK (*Fails*)A Necronomicon - Skellington (*Bounce*)F Ithin'Carthia(wc) - Ansalon (*Bounce*)
F RIVER STYX - THE MAWF THUNDERHEAD - Tuatha
Magicians: A Tarsis Supports A Grendel - Cyriss (*Cut*)A Ergoth Supports A Grendel - Cyriss (*Cut*)F Krynn - HIGH SEAS (*Bounce*)
A Grendel - Cyriss (*Dislodged*)F Dargaard Keep - EAST SEA OF SHADOWS (*Dislodged*)F WEST SEA OF SHADOWS Supports A Necronomicon - Skellington
Nomads: A Kingdom of Hearts - Spiral Castle

Ogres: F Newa River - THON THALASA Lindon - Two TowersF Knockshegowna HoldF Horborixen Supports A Uuno - FafhrdA Magrathea - FjordA Niflheim - Kahvi
A Everglot Supports A Uhl Belk - SkellingtonA Cyriss Supports F EAST SEA OF SHADOWS - Ergoth (*Cut*)F Great Glacier - RAZORS EDGEA Sinking Shore - Great SteppesA Hoarluk - Lubrick
F Powry Supports A Hoarluk - LubrickA Uuno - FafhrdA Heresh - AllerleirauhF Shining Stream - Thirsty DesertA Nowwhat - Venatori UmbrarumF Golgafrincham - Lindon
F Rivendell - The High WayF Daniloth Supports A TroldhaugenF BEAVERSDAM Supports F Walk of Clouds - AshanF BIKINI BOTTOM - Ansalon (*Bounce*)F ROARING RAPIDS - NORTH RAINBOW LAKE
F NORTH RAINBOW LAKE - THUNDERHEAD
Pirates: A Loxley - PrydainF Riku - GRIEF REEFF Sorrows End HoldA Kahvi - GrendelA Slightly Gulch Hold
A Plains of Dust Supports A Kahvi - GrendelA Maze of Regrets - Critter CountryF HIGH SEAS - Tarsis (*Fails*)F MERMAIDS LAGOON - HIGH SEAS (*Bounce*)F WAY THE HECK Supports F BIKINI BOTTOM - Ansalon (*Cut*)
F HORNED BAY Supports A Loxley - PrydainF BABEL BEACH - Enchanted Isles (*Fails*)
Trolls: A Pygmy - Orboros (*Fails*)
Undead: A Istar - Timberlands
A Uhl Belk - Skellington (*Bounce*)F EAST SEA OF SHADOWS - Ergoth (*Fails*)
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"Sit Long, Talk Much, Laugh Often" -- anon
"Shared Pain is lessened, Shared Joy is increased" --- Spider Robinson

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