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DC138 Winter Of Our Discontent - Winter 2011 - Swo... - test_gm   (Sep 13, 2007, 12:00 am)
Y'all (pretending I'm a Texan) can add a BC/Mexico/Florida draw to that mix, if the kind GM pleasesSmile

On Fri, Jul 11, 2008 at 8:24 PM, Former Trout <former.trout(at)gmail.com ([email]former.trout(at)gmail.com[/email])> wrote:

Heya WOODers...
Amid the rubble, a stash of literary genius is found... Our next fortunes come courtesy of twentieth century poet laureate Dr. Seuss:
"You have brains in your head. You have feet in your shoes. You can steer yourself, any direction you choose."

With those words of wisdom, we steer ourselves into the Winter of 2011... Florida builds 3 armies, BC 2 fleets. Meanwhile, California makes some interesting disbands and Mexico waives their build. Definitely some unexpected results.. =)


Spring 2012 orders will be due in a week - on Friday, July 18th (11:59 PM GMT). On top of the orders, we have a raft of end-game proposals that have been tabled for your consideration. Yay or nay votes will be due with the Spring moves.


Please vote for the following:
1. Draw Including All Survivors
2. BC / California Draw
3. BC / California / Mexico Draw
4. BC / California / Florida Draw
5. BC / California / Mexico / Florida Draw
6. Cuban Solo
7. BC Solo


Cheers everyone. Shout out if you spot an error!


Trout




Adjustment orders for Winter of 2011. (DC138 11 WIN)


BC: Build F Vancouver.
BC: Build F Anchorage.


California: Remove F Oregon.
California: Remove F San Francisco.
California: Remove A Dakotas.
California: Remove A Western Ontario.


Florida: Build A Jacksonville.
Florida: Build A Tampa.
Florida: Build A Miami.


NewYork: Remove A West Pennsylvania.


Mexico: Build waived.


Unit locations:


BC: F Anchorage, A Idaho, F Lake Erie, F Los Angeles, A Manitoba, F Cape
May, A Michigan, A Minneapolis, A Montana, A Nebraska, F New York
City, F New York State, A Ohio, F San Diego, F Vancouver, A
Washington, F West Coast.
California: A Arizona, A Chihuahua, A Chicago, F Hawaii, A Kentucky, F Mid
Pacific Ocean, A Nevada, A New Mexico, A Oklahoma, A Tennessee, A
West Virginia.
Florida: F Chesapeake Bay, A Dallas, F Deep South, F East Coast, A Houston, A
Jacksonville, F Lesser Antilles, F Louisiana, A Miami, A North
Carolina, F Tabasco, A Tampa, A Washington DC.
NewYork: A New Jersey, A Philadelphia.
Quebec: F Massachusetts Bay.
Cuba: A Venezuela.
Mexico: A Bogota, A Coahuila, F Coronado Bay, F Coast of Mexico, A Durango,
F Gulf of California, F Gulf of Campeche, F Gulf of Mexico, A
Guadalajara, A San Antonio, F South Pacific Ocean, A Yucatan.


Ownership of supply centers:


BC: Anchorage, Calgary, Greenland, Los Angeles, Manitoba, Massachussets,
Michigan, Minneapolis, Montreal, New York City, Ohio, Ontario,
Quebec City, San Diego, Ungava, Vancouver, Washington.
California: Arizona, Chihuahua, Chicago, Colorado, Hawaii, Kansas, Milwaukee,
Missouri, Oregon, San Francisco, Tennessee.
Florida: Dallas, Dominican Republic, Georgia, Havana, Holquin, Houston,
Jacksonville, Kingston, Louisiana, Miami, North Carolina, Tampa,
Washington DC.
NewYork: New Jersey, Philadelphia.
Quebec: Nova Scotia.
Cuba: Venezuela.
Mexico: Bogota, Cali, Durango, Guadalajara, Guatemala, Lima, Mexico City,
Nicaragua, Nuevo Leon, Panama, San Antonio, Veracruz, Yucatan.




SPRING 2012 ORDERS DUE FRIDAY, JULY 18TH (11:59 PM GMT)!!

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DC138 Winter Of Our Discontent - Winter 2011 - Swo... - test_gm   (Sep 13, 2007, 12:00 am)
Option 8: BC/Mexico/Florida Draw.

(Apologies for missing that one.) =P


Trout

On Fri, Jul 11, 2008 at 11:26 PM, Andrew Tanner <damienthryn(at)gmail.com ([email]damienthryn(at)gmail.com[/email])> wrote:

Y'all (pretending I'm a Texan) can add a BC/Mexico/Florida draw to that mix, if the kind GM pleasesSmile


On Fri, Jul 11, 2008 at 8:24 PM, Former Trout <former.trout(at)gmail.com ([email]former.trout(at)gmail.com[/email])> wrote:
[quote:c0c5381e68]Heya WOODers...
Amid the rubble, a stash of literary genius is found... Our next fortunes come courtesy of twentieth century poet laureate Dr. Seuss:
"You have brains in your head. You have feet in your shoes. You can steer yourself, any direction you choose."

With those words of wisdom, we steer ourselves into the Winter of 2011... Florida builds 3 armies, BC 2 fleets. Meanwhile, California makes some interesting disbands and Mexico waives their build. Definitely some unexpected results.. =)


Spring 2012 orders will be due in a week - on Friday, July 18th (11:59 PM GMT). On top of the orders, we have a raft of end-game proposals that have been tabled for your consideration. Yay or nay votes will be due with the Spring moves.


Please vote for the following:
1. Draw Including All Survivors
2. BC / California Draw
3. BC / California / Mexico Draw
4. BC / California / Florida Draw
5. BC / California / Mexico / Florida Draw
6. Cuban Solo
7. BC Solo


Cheers everyone. Shout out if you spot an error!


Trout




Adjustment orders for Winter of 2011. (DC138 11 WIN)


BC: Build F Vancouver.
BC: Build F Anchorage.


California: Remove F Oregon.
California: Remove F San Francisco.
California: Remove A Dakotas.
California: Remove A Western Ontario.


Florida: Build A Jacksonville.
Florida: Build A Tampa.
Florida: Build A Miami.


NewYork: Remove A West Pennsylvania.


Mexico: Build waived.


Unit locations:


BC: F Anchorage, A Idaho, F Lake Erie, F Los Angeles, A Manitoba, F Cape
May, A Michigan, A Minneapolis, A Montana, A Nebraska, F New York
City, F New York State, A Ohio, F San Diego, F Vancouver, A
Washington, F West Coast.
California: A Arizona, A Chihuahua, A Chicago, F Hawaii, A Kentucky, F Mid
Pacific Ocean, A Nevada, A New Mexico, A Oklahoma, A Tennessee, A
West Virginia.
Florida: F Chesapeake Bay, A Dallas, F Deep South, F East Coast, A Houston, A
Jacksonville, F Lesser Antilles, F Louisiana, A Miami, A North
Carolina, F Tabasco, A Tampa, A Washington DC.
NewYork: A New Jersey, A Philadelphia.
Quebec: F Massachusetts Bay.
Cuba: A Venezuela.
Mexico: A Bogota, A Coahuila, F Coronado Bay, F Coast of Mexico, A Durango,
F Gulf of California, F Gulf of Campeche, F Gulf of Mexico, A
Guadalajara, A San Antonio, F South Pacific Ocean, A Yucatan.


Ownership of supply centers:


BC: Anchorage, Calgary, Greenland, Los Angeles, Manitoba, Massachussets,
Michigan, Minneapolis, Montreal, New York City, Ohio, Ontario,
Quebec City, San Diego, Ungava, Vancouver, Washington.
California: Arizona, Chihuahua, Chicago, Colorado, Hawaii, Kansas, Milwaukee,
Missouri, Oregon, San Francisco, Tennessee.
Florida: Dallas, Dominican Republic, Georgia, Havana, Holquin, Houston,
Jacksonville, Kingston, Louisiana, Miami, North Carolina, Tampa,
Washington DC.
NewYork: New Jersey, Philadelphia.
Quebec: Nova Scotia.
Cuba: Venezuela.
Mexico: Bogota, Cali, Durango, Guadalajara, Guatemala, Lima, Mexico City,
Nicaragua, Nuevo Leon, Panama, San Antonio, Veracruz, Yucatan.




SPRING 2012 ORDERS DUE FRIDAY, JULY 18TH (11:59 PM GMT)!!





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DC138 Winter Of Our Discontent - Winter 2011 - Swo... - test_gm   (Sep 13, 2007, 12:00 am)
As usual, Quebec votes YES to all 8.
EXCEPT #6! Death to Cuba! Muera la copa cubana!

Actually Ray too. So let’s nix 2 thru 5 right off. That leaves 1 (as a Canadian indentured servant on 1 sc, I do not deserve a DIAS so I vote this one down). So the 3-way? Ray will vote that one down. That leaves the BC solo! I vote yes to the BC solo! All in favor of losing? Big surprise. Ok we play on.

For one final proposal, I hereby raise that we vote on the player most likely to lose a lot of centers in coming years.

Quebec attacks Cuba.
Final.

And I repropose the Quebec-NY two-way.




From: Former Trout [mailto:former.trout(at)gmail.com]
Sent: Friday, July 11, 2008 11:16 PM
To: Andrew Tanner
Cc: dc138; Andrew Clarke; Bruce Quinn; Bruce Ray; Jason K; Michael Sims; Nathan Deily; Rob Ackerley; Samuel Smith; Steve Lytton
Subject: Re: DC138 Winter Of Our Discontent - Winter 2011 - Sword Fight


Option 8: BC/Mexico/Florida Draw.


(Apologies for missing that one.) =P



Trout
On Fri, Jul 11, 2008 at 11:26 PM, Andrew Tanner <damienthryn(at)gmail.com ([email]damienthryn(at)gmail.com[/email])> wrote:
Y'all (pretending I'm a Texan) can add a BC/Mexico/Florida draw to that mix, if the kind GM pleasesSmile

On Fri, Jul 11, 2008 at 8:24 PM, Former Trout <former.trout(at)gmail.com ([email]former.trout(at)gmail.com[/email])> wrote:
Heya WOODers...
Amid the rubble, a stash of literary genius is found... Our next fortunes come courtesy of twentieth century poet laureate Dr. Seuss:
"You have brains in your head. You have feet in your shoes. You can steer yourself, any direction you choose."


With those words of wisdom, we steer ourselves into the Winter of 2011... Florida builds 3 armies, BC 2 fleets. Meanwhile, California makes some interesting disbands and Mexico waives their build. Definitely some unexpected results.. =)



Spring 2012 orders will be due in a week - on Friday, July 18th (11:59 PM GMT). On top of the orders, we have a raft of end-game proposals that have been tabled for your consideration. Yay or nay votes will be due with the Spring moves.



Please vote for the following:

1. Draw Including All Survivors

2. BC / California Draw

3. BC / California / Mexico Draw

4. BC / California / Florida Draw

5. BC / California / Mexico / Florida Draw

6. Cuban Solo

7. BC Solo



Cheers everyone. Shout out if you spot an error!



Trout





Adjustment orders for Winter of 2011. (DC138 11 WIN)



BC: Build F Vancouver.

BC: Build F Anchorage.



California: Remove F Oregon.

California: Remove F San Francisco.

California: Remove A Dakotas.

California: Remove A Western Ontario.



Florida: Build A Jacksonville.

Florida: Build A Tampa.

Florida: Build A Miami.



NewYork: Remove A West Pennsylvania.



Mexico: Build waived.



Unit locations:



BC: F Anchorage, A Idaho, F Lake Erie, F Los Angeles, A Manitoba, F Cape

May, A Michigan, A Minneapolis, A Montana, A Nebraska, F New York

City, F New York State, A Ohio, F San Diego, F Vancouver, A

Washington, F West Coast.

California: A Arizona, A Chihuahua, A Chicago, F Hawaii, A Kentucky, F Mid

Pacific Ocean, A Nevada, A New Mexico, A Oklahoma, A Tennessee, A

West Virginia.

Florida: F Chesapeake Bay, A Dallas, F Deep South, F East Coast, A Houston, A

Jacksonville, F Lesser Antilles, F Louisiana, A Miami, A North

Carolina, F Tabasco, A Tampa, A Washington DC.

NewYork: A New Jersey, A Philadelphia.

Quebec: F Massachusetts Bay.

Cuba: A Venezuela.

Mexico: A Bogota, A Coahuila, F Coronado Bay, F Coast of Mexico, A Durango,

F Gulf of California, F Gulf of Campeche, F Gulf of Mexico, A

Guadalajara, A San Antonio, F South Pacific Ocean, A Yucatan.



Ownership of supply centers:



BC: Anchorage, Calgary, Greenland, Los Angeles, Manitoba, Massachussets,

Michigan, Minneapolis, Montreal, New York City, Ohio, Ontario,

Quebec City, San Diego, Ungava, Vancouver, Washington.

California: Arizona, Chihuahua, Chicago, Colorado, Hawaii, Kansas, Milwaukee,

Missouri, Oregon, San Francisco, Tennessee.

Florida: Dallas, Dominican Republic, Georgia, Havana, Holquin, Houston,

Jacksonville, Kingston, Louisiana, Miami, North Carolina, Tampa,

Washington DC.

NewYork: New Jersey, Philadelphia.

Quebec: Nova Scotia.

Cuba: Venezuela.

Mexico: Bogota, Cali, Durango, Guadalajara, Guatemala, Lima, Mexico City,

Nicaragua, Nuevo Leon, Panama, San Antonio, Veracruz, Yucatan.





SPRING 2012 ORDERS DUE FRIDAY, JULY 18TH (11:59 PM GMT)!!

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DC138 Winter Of Our Discontent - Winter 2011 - Swo... - test_gm   (Sep 13, 2007, 12:00 am)
Oh mighty GM, you forgot to mention that Cuba has just acquired the bomb and will use it if no proposal succeeds!


----- Original Message ----
From: Former Trout <former.trout(at)gmail.com>
To: dc138 <DC138(at)diplomaticcorp.com>
Cc: Andrew Clarke <a_c_2bcool(at)hotmail.com>; Andrew Tanner <damienthryn(at)gmail.com>; Bruce Quinn <coebq(at)yahoo.com>; Bruce Ray <raybrucea(at)aol.com>; Jason K <Githraine(at)yahoo.com>; Mike Sims <mike(at)southwall.com>; Nathan Deily <ndeily(at)yahoo.com>; Rob Ackerley <rob_ackerley(at)yahoo.ca>; Samuel Smith <agenbite.lee(at)gmail.com>; Steve Lytton <stevelytton(at)hotmail.com>
Sent: Friday, July 11, 2008 11:24:38 PM
Subject: DC138 Winter Of Our Discontent - Winter 2011 - Sword Fight

Heya WOODers...
Amid the rubble, a stash of literary genius is found... Our next fortunes come courtesy of twentieth century poet laureate Dr. Seuss:
"You have brains in your head. You have feet in your shoes. You can steer yourself, any direction you choose."

With those words of wisdom, we steer ourselves into the Winter of 2011... Florida builds 3 armies, BC 2 fleets. Meanwhile, California makes some interesting disbands and Mexico waives their build. Definitely some unexpected results.. =)


Spring 2012 orders will be due in a week - on Friday, July 18th (11:59 PM GMT). On top of the orders, we have a raft of end-game proposals that have been tabled for your consideration. Yay or nay votes will be due with the Spring moves.


Please vote for the following:
1. Draw Including All Survivors
2. BC / California Draw
3. BC / California / Mexico Draw
4. BC / California / Florida Draw
5. BC / California / Mexico / Florida Draw
6. Cuban Solo
7. BC Solo


Cheers everyone. Shout out if you spot an error!


Trout




Adjustment orders for Winter of 2011. (DC138 11 WIN)


BC: Build F Vancouver.
BC: Build F Anchorage.


California: Remove F Oregon.
California: Remove F San Francisco.
California: Remove A Dakotas.
California: Remove A Western Ontario.


Florida: Build A Jacksonville.
Florida: Build A Tampa.
Florida: Build A Miami.


NewYork: Remove A West Pennsylvania.


Mexico: Build waived.


Unit locations:


BC: F Anchorage, A Idaho, F Lake Erie, F Los Angeles, A Manitoba, F Cape
May, A Michigan, A Minneapolis, A Montana, A Nebraska, F New York
City, F New York State, A Ohio, F San Diego, F Vancouver, A
Washington, F West Coast.
California: A Arizona, A Chihuahua, A Chicago, F Hawaii, A Kentucky, F Mid
Pacific Ocean, A Nevada, A New Mexico, A Oklahoma, A Tennessee, A
West Virginia.
Florida: F Chesapeake Bay, A Dallas, F Deep South, F East Coast, A Houston, A
Jacksonville, F Lesser Antilles, F Louisiana, A Miami, A North
Carolina, F Tabasco, A Tampa, A Washington DC.
NewYork: A New Jersey, A Philadelphia.
Quebec: F Massachusetts Bay.
Cuba: A Venezuela.
Mexico: A Bogota, A Coahuila, F Coronado Bay, F Coast of Mexico, A Durango,
F Gulf of California, F Gulf of Campeche, F Gulf of Mexico, A
Guadalajara, A San Antonio, F South Pacific Ocean, A Yucatan.


Ownership of supply centers:


BC: Anchorage, Calgary, Greenland, Los Angeles, Manitoba, Massachussets,
Michigan, Minneapolis, Montreal, New York City, Ohio, Ontario,
Quebec City, San Diego, Ungava, Vancouver, Washington.
California: Arizona, Chihuahua, Chicago, Colorado, Hawaii, Kansas, Milwaukee,
Missouri, Oregon, San Francisco, Tennessee.
Florida: Dallas, Dominican Republic, Georgia, Havana, Holquin, Houston,
Jacksonville, Kingston, Louisiana, Miami, North Carolina, Tampa,
Washington DC.
NewYork: New Jersey, Philadelphia.
Quebec: Nova Scotia.
Cuba: Venezuela.
Mexico: Bogota, Cali, Durango, Guadalajara, Guatemala, Lima, Mexico City,
Nicaragua, Nuevo Leon, Panama, San Antonio, Veracruz, Yucatan.




SPRING 2012 ORDERS DUE FRIDAY, JULY 18TH (11:59 PM GMT)!!

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DC138 Winter Of Our Discontent - Winter 2011 - Swo... - test_gm   (Sep 13, 2007, 12:00 am)
Why not...

Proposal #9 for your consideration: Quebec / New York Draw.


Thanks everyone!


Trout


On Sat, Jul 12, 2008 at 12:43 AM, Michael Sims <mike(at)southwall.com ([email]mike(at)southwall.com[/email])> wrote:


As usual, Quebec votes YES to all 8.
EXCEPT #6! Death to Cuba! Muera la copa cubana!

Actually Ray too. So let's nix 2 thru 5 right off. That leaves 1 (as a Canadian indentured servant on 1 sc, I do not deserve a DIAS so I vote this one down). So the 3-way? Ray will vote that one down. That leaves the BC solo! I vote yes to the BC solo! All in favor of losing? Big surprise. Ok we play on.

For one final proposal, I hereby raise that we vote on the player most likely to lose a lot of centers in coming years.

Quebec attacks Cuba.
Final.

And I repropose the Quebec-NY two-way.




From: Former Trout [mailto:former.trout(at)gmail.com ([email]former.trout(at)gmail.com[/email])]
Sent: Friday, July 11, 2008 11:16 PM
To: Andrew Tanner
Cc: dc138; Andrew Clarke; Bruce Quinn; Bruce Ray; Jason K; Michael Sims; Nathan Deily; Rob Ackerley; Samuel Smith; Steve Lytton
Subject: Re: DC138 Winter Of Our Discontent - Winter 2011 - Sword Fight



Option 8: BC/Mexico/Florida Draw.


(Apologies for missing that one.) =P



Trout
On Fri, Jul 11, 2008 at 11:26 PM, Andrew Tanner <damienthryn(at)gmail.com ([email]damienthryn(at)gmail.com[/email])> wrote:
Y'all (pretending I'm a Texan) can add a BC/Mexico/Florida draw to that mix, if the kind GM pleasesSmile

On Fri, Jul 11, 2008 at 8:24 PM, Former Trout <former.trout(at)gmail.com ([email]former.trout(at)gmail.com[/email])> wrote:
Heya WOODers...
Amid the rubble, a stash of literary genius is found... Our next fortunes come courtesy of twentieth century poet laureate Dr. Seuss:
"You have brains in your head. You have feet in your shoes. You can steer yourself, any direction you choose."


With those words of wisdom, we steer ourselves into the Winter of 2011... Florida builds 3 armies, BC 2 fleets. Meanwhile, California makes some interesting disbands and Mexico waives their build. Definitely some unexpected results.. =)



Spring 2012 orders will be due in a week - on Friday, July 18th (11:59 PM GMT). On top of the orders, we have a raft of end-game proposals that have been tabled for your consideration. Yay or nay votes will be due with the Spring moves.



Please vote for the following:

1. Draw Including All Survivors

2. BC / California Draw

3. BC / California / Mexico Draw

4. BC / California / Florida Draw

5. BC / California / Mexico / Florida Draw

6. Cuban Solo

7. BC Solo



Cheers everyone. Shout out if you spot an error!



Trout





Adjustment orders for Winter of 2011. (DC138 11 WIN)



BC: Build F Vancouver.

BC: Build F Anchorage.



California: Remove F Oregon.

California: Remove F San Francisco.

California: Remove A Dakotas.

California: Remove A Western Ontario.



Florida: Build A Jacksonville.

Florida: Build A Tampa.

Florida: Build A Miami.



NewYork: Remove A West Pennsylvania.



Mexico: Build waived.



Unit locations:



BC: F Anchorage, A Idaho, F Lake Erie, F Los Angeles, A Manitoba, F Cape

May, A Michigan, A Minneapolis, A Montana, A Nebraska, F New York

City, F New York State, A Ohio, F San Diego, F Vancouver, A

Washington, F West Coast.

California: A Arizona, A Chihuahua, A Chicago, F Hawaii, A Kentucky, F Mid

Pacific Ocean, A Nevada, A New Mexico, A Oklahoma, A Tennessee, A

West Virginia.

Florida: F Chesapeake Bay, A Dallas, F Deep South, F East Coast, A Houston, A

Jacksonville, F Lesser Antilles, F Louisiana, A Miami, A North

Carolina, F Tabasco, A Tampa, A Washington DC.

NewYork: A New Jersey, A Philadelphia.

Quebec: F Massachusetts Bay.

Cuba: A Venezuela.

Mexico: A Bogota, A Coahuila, F Coronado Bay, F Coast of Mexico, A Durango,

F Gulf of California, F Gulf of Campeche, F Gulf of Mexico, A

Guadalajara, A San Antonio, F South Pacific Ocean, A Yucatan.



Ownership of supply centers:



BC: Anchorage, Calgary, Greenland, Los Angeles, Manitoba, Massachussets,

Michigan, Minneapolis, Montreal, New York City, Ohio, Ontario,

Quebec City, San Diego, Ungava, Vancouver, Washington.

California: Arizona, Chihuahua, Chicago, Colorado, Hawaii, Kansas, Milwaukee,

Missouri, Oregon, San Francisco, Tennessee.

Florida: Dallas, Dominican Republic, Georgia, Havana, Holquin, Houston,

Jacksonville, Kingston, Louisiana, Miami, North Carolina, Tampa,

Washington DC.

NewYork: New Jersey, Philadelphia.

Quebec: Nova Scotia.

Cuba: Venezuela.

Mexico: Bogota, Cali, Durango, Guadalajara, Guatemala, Lima, Mexico City,

Nicaragua, Nuevo Leon, Panama, San Antonio, Veracruz, Yucatan.





SPRING 2012 ORDERS DUE FRIDAY, JULY 18TH (11:59 PM GMT)!!












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DC138 - Spring 2012 Deadline Reminder - test_gm   (Sep 13, 2007, 12:00 am)
Heya WOODers,

Just your usual heads-up here... Deadline for Spring 2012 and our myriad of end-game proposal votes is in the next 18 hours. Not all of you have chimed in at this point, so please punch the clock and send those orders on in.


Cheers!


Clockwatcher Trout

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DC138 Winter Of Our Discontent - Summer 2012 - Pri... - test_gm   (Sep 13, 2007, 12:00 am)
From there to here, and here to there, funny things are everywhere.

The words of Dr. Seuss may be very true, but the fun and mirth meets Summer reality. The Floridian fleet is disbanded, and the Mexican fleet retreats to Galapagos.
All the end-game proposals from last turn have been tabled once again. These were:
1. Draw Including All Survivors
2. BC / California Draw
3. BC / California / Mexico Draw
4. BC / California / Florida Draw
5. BC / California / Mexico / Florida Draw
6. Cuban Solo
7. BC Solo

Please have your Fall 2012 orders and end-game proposals submitted by Monday, July 28th (11:59 PM GMT). Your humble GM reserves the right to refuse tabling the above end-game proposals for a third time in a row if all meet defeat again this round.


Cheers everyone,


Trout


Retreat orders for Spring of 2012. (DC138 12 SUM)


Florida: disband F Tabasco.


Mexico: F South Pacific Ocean - Galapagos.


Unit locations:


BC: F Arctic Ocean, A Dakotas, F Gulf of Santa Catalina, A Indiana, A
Iowa, F Lake Erie, F Cape May, A Milwaukee, A Nevada, F North
Pacific Ocean, F New York City, F New York State, A Ohio, A Oregon,
F San Diego, F Straits of Juan de Fuca, A Wyoming.
California: A Arizona, A Chihuahua, F Hawaii, A Kentucky, A Missouri, A New
Mexico, A Oklahoma, F South Pacific Ocean, A Utah, A Virginia.
Florida: F Arkansas, A Dallas, F Deep South, F East Coast, A Florida
Panhandle, A Georgia, A Houston, F Lesser Antilles, A Miami, F North
Carolina, A Tennessee, A Washington DC.
NewYork: A New Jersey, A Philadelphia.
Quebec: F Massachusetts Bay.
Cuba: A Venezuela.
Mexico: A Baja California, A Bogota, A Coahuila, A Durango, F Galapagos, F
Gulf of California, F Gulf of Campeche, F Culf of Fonseca, F Gulf of
Mexico, F Mid Pacific Ocean, A Tabasco, A West Texas.


Ownership of supply centers:


BC: Anchorage, Calgary, Greenland, Los Angeles, Manitoba, Massachussets,
Michigan, Minneapolis, Montreal, New York City, Ohio, Ontario,
Quebec City, San Diego, Ungava, Vancouver, Washington.
California: Arizona, Chihuahua, Chicago, Colorado, Hawaii, Kansas, Milwaukee,
Missouri, Oregon, San Francisco, Tennessee.
Florida: Dallas, Dominican Republic, Georgia, Havana, Holquin, Houston,
Jacksonville, Kingston, Louisiana, Miami, North Carolina, Tampa,
Washington DC.
NewYork: New Jersey, Philadelphia.
Quebec: Nova Scotia.
Cuba: Venezuela.
Mexico: Bogota, Cali, Durango, Guadalajara, Guatemala, Lima, Mexico City,
Nicaragua, Nuevo Leon, Panama, San Antonio, Veracruz, Yucatan.




NEXT DEADLINE: FALL 2012 ORDERS DUE MONDAY, JULY 28TH (11:59 PM GMT)!!

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DC138 - Getting back on track - test_gm   (Sep 13, 2007, 12:00 am)
Heya WOODers..

Apologies for the slight delay in the adjudication. I take full responsibility - my internet connection was lost while travelling and only re-established this afternoon. That being said though, there are still a couple of you who have not submitted orders and/or votes for the various DIAS proposals. Please remember that not voting is the equivalent of saying 'no'.

We'll delay till Wednesday, July 30th (11:59 PM GMT) - roughly 20.5 hours - in hopes that the missing votes/orders will find their way in.

Cheers!

Trout

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Dc138 - Winter Of Our Discontent - The End Of Disc... - test_gm   (Sep 13, 2007, 12:00 am)
Well, well, well...

My thanks to everyone for their patience as your humble GM got his act together on this end and gathered in the last stray votes/orders... And with that completed, we find ourselves confronting a bad case of PEACE breaking out across the continent. An agreement is reached on a BC/Mexican/Flordian three-way draw, and with that the weapons get put to the side... for now... =)

My congratulations to Andrew, Bruce and Lee for their successful draw and a sincere pat on the back to our minor players out there for toughing it out and somehow, despite my absolute surety that each turn would be their last, managing to still be standing at the end of things. It was a hell of a competition, folks.

As the draw vote succeeded prior to the Fall turn, the last recorded season will be the Spring of 2012. Congratulations again to all players for their efforts in what was a very exciting game to watch. Thanks guys. =)

End-of-Game (EOG) statements are, of course, HIGHLY encouraged. Cheers!

Apocalyptic Trout

END-GAME!! BC/MEXICAN/FLORDIAN DRAW!!!

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Dc138 - Winter Of Our Discontent - The End Of Disc... - test_gm   (Sep 13, 2007, 12:00 am)
I must say that I feel a little vindicated that both my chief ally and biggest enemy were in the draw. Lee, you caught me at my most vulnerable and made a good clean stab.
Bruce, you, supposedly my friend, kicked me when I was down. You suck man! Wink
Trout, as always, a great game.
And to the rest of you whiny verbose peeps, it was lost of fun, I'll see you all on the next board!

Jason "'Lil Castro in Exile"


----- Original Message ----
From: Former Trout <former.trout(at)gmail.com>
To: dc138 <DC138(at)diplomaticcorp.com>
Cc: Andrew Clarke <a_c_2bcool(at)hotmail.com>; Andrew Tanner <damienthryn(at)gmail.com>; Bruce Quinn <coebq(at)yahoo.com>; Bruce Ray <raybrucea(at)aol.com>; Jason K <Githraine(at)yahoo.com>; Mike Sims <mike(at)southwall.com>; Nathan Deily <ndeily(at)yahoo.com>; Rob Ackerley <rob_ackerley(at)yahoo.ca>; Samuel Smith <agenbite.lee(at)gmail.com>; Steve Lytton <stevelytton(at)hotmail.com>
Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2008 10:24:57 AM
Subject: Dc138 - Winter Of Our Discontent - The End Of Discontented Snows

Well, well, well...

My thanks to everyone for their patience as your humble GM got his act together on this end and gathered in the last stray votes/orders... And with that completed, we find ourselves confronting a bad case of PEACE breaking out across the continent. An agreement is reached on a BC/Mexican/Flordian three-way draw, and with that the weapons get put to the side... for now... =)

My congratulations to Andrew, Bruce and Lee for their successful draw and a sincere pat on the back to our minor players out there for toughing it out and somehow, despite my absolute surety that each turn would be their last, managing to still be standing at the end of things. It was a hell of a competition, folks.

As the draw vote succeeded prior to the Fall turn, the last recorded season will be the Spring of 2012. Congratulations again to all players for their efforts in what was a very exciting game to watch. Thanks guys. =)

End-of-Game (EOG) statements are, of course, HIGHLY encouraged. Cheers!

Apocalyptic Trout

END-GAME!! BC/MEXICAN/FLORDIAN DRAW!!!

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Dc138 - Winter Of Our Discontent - The End Of Disc... - test_gm   (Sep 13, 2007, 12:00 am)
Whew, what a game! Thanks Trout for GMing through these long months, and thanks to all for making it a great game, my second start on DipCorp (and third finish).

Game began awfully poorly for me - I got no response from California and had to assume the worst - that he and Sims would be pushing to eliminate me from the very start. Fortunately for me, he wasn't communicating with anyone, including the GM - and Ray kindly came in to take the reins of the Golden State.

He and I struck up a good alliance from the start, I sending a fleet south to claim Hawaii and help him against Bruce's moves north, while I pushed the remainder of my forces north and east to handle what I predicted would be a fast assault by Quebec, though Mike did his best to keep me thinking he was headed any direction but west.

And so began the Great Canadian War, ending in the reunification of that great nation (plus a little to the south). Things would have gone ill for me even with Ray's benevolent refraining from hitting my southern borders, as Andy in Heartland was (as I found out later) part of a New York/Quebec/Heartland triple. But to my great surprise, Andy did not seem to trust his erstwhile allies enough to go gallavanting to the west, and he quickly ceded Man to me in return for a welcome peace, leaving me able to deal with Quebec on my own. And to my even greater fortune, Andy was happy to join with me in hitting Quebec from two sides - a move that allowed me to move in and eventually, after a lot of rather distrustful negotiations, seize Quebec's centers for myself.

The alliance with California to my south and the wondrous discord between the northeastern triple essentially carried me through the midgame. I rapidly began to feel that New York was in a position to dominate the board - with Florida leaving him alone and Andy and Mike extremely distrustful of one another, I made it my business to turn them both against Rob, who had attacked both of them at this point. They agreed to my suggestions, and with their (mostly Andy's, until Mike was down to only two units) help I was able to keep Rob from moving into Quebec's centers and establishing a front against me. Slowly everything began to move west, Ray and Bruce cooperating to stop Lee's rapid growth in the wake of conquering Cuba while I helped Mike and Andy survive in exchange for taking on Rob.

We all know the verbose fallout of the slow retreat of New York...so I'll move on to the next critical stage - my reluctant stab of Ray, which probably caught a few people by surprise given my strong alliance with him. Thing with Ray was, he attacked Andy and helped to eliminate him when I'd asked that Andy be left alone to help me defeat Rob. That made me keep a sharp eye on him, as I thought then he was trying for a solo run, but at the time I had no way of doing anything about it, being wholly engaged with Rob. But then, he stabbed Bruce. I admit that I had been saying I'd go along with a stab if Ray wanted to pull it off, but I was fearful that he would either hit me or Bruce, and I wanted to make sure that if he did move, it'd be south. However each time he said he didn't want to stab south, and held off. But he finally did so, just after promising me that he wouldn't, and I felt I had no choice - he'd get territory from Bruce faster than I could from Rob, and be taking Lee's centers to boot. Add to that the conveniently shifting terms of our center splits, and I launched a shoestring stab accompanied by a rare bluff on my part, which barely worked.

And from there, the game was history. With Lee and Bruce happy to work against Ray, I took the brunt of his fury while they broke his southern front, anticipating that I'd be able to clean up in the north once Ray was reduced in units. Which is what happened, until he began to throw centers to me in what I believe was an attempt to make Bruce and Lee fear I was bound for a solo myself, and then get them to attack me. Fortunately I was able to convince them otherwise, and so we've ended in a draw.

I know several of you are wondering why I didn't try for a solo, and here's my answers. 1.unlike many players, who view a solo as the object of the game, I view a draw at the end of a long term alliance to be my personal goal. I view this as a game of cooperation and negotiation, and play accordingly. Not that I don't stab when I feel its in my best interest - but I play intending to secure a draw where I'll be dominant enough to prevent being stabbed myself. Reason 2. North America's geography is such that a rough stalemate line can be drawn about halfway through the US, if there are one of two powers on either side who can meet one another at the right point. I calculated that even if I rushed south and had a superiority in units, I'd max out at 25-26 centers before stalemating with Lee and Bruce - if I didn't screw up and get myself beat first.

And so, with them being wholly committed to one another, a draw it is.

Sorry for the verbosity, but you asked for an EOG, so you got itSmile Glad to play with you all, and I'll look forward to seeing you again in one of my many games!

Andrew, Grand Pirate Overlord of the Reunited Territories of Canada, plus a little on the side.

On Thu, Jul 31, 2008 at 8:09 AM, Jason K <githraine(at)yahoo.com ([email]githraine(at)yahoo.com[/email])> wrote:

I must say that I feel a little vindicated that both my chief ally and biggest enemy were in the draw. Lee, you caught me at my most vulnerable and made a good clean stab.
Bruce, you, supposedly my friend, kicked me when I was down. You suck man! Wink
Trout, as always, a great game.
And to the rest of you whiny verbose peeps, it was lost of fun, I'll see you all on the next board!

Jason "'Lil Castro in Exile"



----- Original Message ----
From: Former Trout <former.trout(at)gmail.com ([email]former.trout(at)gmail.com[/email])>
To: dc138 <DC138(at)diplomaticcorp.com ([email]DC138(at)diplomaticcorp.com[/email])>
Cc: Andrew Clarke <a_c_2bcool(at)hotmail.com ([email]a_c_2bcool(at)hotmail.com[/email])>; Andrew Tanner <damienthryn(at)gmail.com ([email]damienthryn(at)gmail.com[/email])>; Bruce Quinn <coebq(at)yahoo.com ([email]coebq(at)yahoo.com[/email])>; Bruce Ray <raybrucea(at)aol.com ([email]raybrucea(at)aol.com[/email])>; Jason K <Githraine(at)yahoo.com ([email]Githraine(at)yahoo.com[/email])>; Mike Sims <mike(at)southwall.com ([email]mike(at)southwall.com[/email])>; Nathan Deily <ndeily(at)yahoo.com ([email]ndeily(at)yahoo.com[/email])>; Rob Ackerley <rob_ackerley(at)yahoo.ca ([email]rob_ackerley(at)yahoo.ca[/email])>; Samuel Smith <agenbite.lee(at)gmail.com ([email]agenbite.lee(at)gmail.com[/email])>; Steve Lytton <stevelytton(at)hotmail.com ([email]stevelytton(at)hotmail.com[/email])>
Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2008 10:24:57 AM
Subject: Dc138 - Winter Of Our Discontent - The End Of Discontented Snows

Well, well, well...

My thanks to everyone for their patience as your humble GM got his act together on this end and gathered in the last stray votes/orders... And with that completed, we find ourselves confronting a bad case of PEACE breaking out across the continent. An agreement is reached on a BC/Mexican/Flordian three-way draw, and with that the weapons get put to the side... for now... =)

My congratulations to Andrew, Bruce and Lee for their successful draw and a sincere pat on the back to our minor players out there for toughing it out and somehow, despite my absolute surety that each turn would be their last, managing to still be standing at the end of things. It was a hell of a competition, folks.

As the draw vote succeeded prior to the Fall turn, the last recorded season will be the Spring of 2012. Congratulations again to all players for their efforts in what was a very exciting game to watch. Thanks guys. =)

End-of-Game (EOG) statements are, of course, HIGHLY encouraged. Cheers!

Apocalyptic Trout

END-GAME!! BC/MEXICAN/FLORDIAN DRAW!!!








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DC138 WOOD - A Peace Too Soon - test_gm   (Sep 13, 2007, 12:00 am)
Well, my EGP stands, not writing that again - though if I end up getting killed I'll surely updateSmile

On Thu, Jul 31, 2008 at 3:15 PM, Jason K <githraine(at)yahoo.com ([email]githraine(at)yahoo.com[/email])> wrote:

Ok, which of you Dingleberries on a horney goat's ass voten no?



----- Original Message ----
From: Former Trout <former.trout(at)gmail.com ([email]former.trout(at)gmail.com[/email])>
To: dc138 <DC138(at)diplomaticcorp.com ([email]DC138(at)diplomaticcorp.com[/email])>
Cc: Andrew Clarke <a_c_2bcool(at)hotmail.com ([email]a_c_2bcool(at)hotmail.com[/email])>; Andrew Tanner <damienthryn(at)gmail.com ([email]damienthryn(at)gmail.com[/email])>; Bruce Quinn <coebq(at)yahoo.com ([email]coebq(at)yahoo.com[/email])>; Bruce Ray <raybrucea(at)aol.com ([email]raybrucea(at)aol.com[/email])>; Jason K <Githraine(at)yahoo.com ([email]Githraine(at)yahoo.com[/email])>; Mike Sims <mike(at)southwall.com ([email]mike(at)southwall.com[/email])>; Nathan Deily <ndeily(at)yahoo.com ([email]ndeily(at)yahoo.com[/email])>; Rob Ackerley <rob_ackerley(at)yahoo.ca ([email]rob_ackerley(at)yahoo.ca[/email])>; Samuel Smith <agenbite.lee(at)gmail.com ([email]agenbite.lee(at)gmail.com[/email])>; Steve Lytton <stevelytton(at)hotmail.com ([email]stevelytton(at)hotmail.com[/email])>
Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2008 6:08:51 PM
Subject: DC138 WOOD - A Peace Too Soon

Heya folks,

Well, I need to take my lumps here. The BC/Mex/Fla draw was never officially proposed by me as an alternative. With everyone including it in their votes, in my muddle of this last week I thought that it had been. Reviewing the records however, I see that it never was - and if it had been, I have been informed that at least one player would have voted against it.

So we play on! The Fall adjudication is below. We have four retreats, but they all have only one place to fall back to - I will auto-retreat these and publish the Early Winter adjudication later this evening. Winter 2012 adjustment deadline will be set for Sunday, August 3rd (11:59 PM GMT)..

Apologies about this mess, folks. I believe this is the best way to move forward. Cheers everyone,

Trout


Movement results for Fall of 2012. (DC138 12 FALL)

BC: F Arctic Ocean - Greenland.
BC: A Dakotas - Nebraska.
BC: F Gulf of Santa Catalina - West Coast.
BC: A Indiana - Chicago.
BC: A Iowa Supports A Tennessee - Missouri.
BC: F Lake Erie - West Pennsylvania.
BC: F Cape May Convoys A Miami - New Jersey.
BC: A Milwaukee Supports A Indiana - Chicago.
BC: A Nevada Supports A Baja California - Arizona.
BC: F North Pacific Ocean Supports F Mid Pacific Ocean - Hawaii.
BC: F New York City Supports A Miami - New Jersey.
BC: F New York State Hold.
BC: A Ohio - Kentucky (*Fails*).
BC: A Oregon - San Francisco.
BC: F San Diego Hold.
BC: F Straits of Juan de Fuca - Oregon.
BC: A Wyoming - Utah (*Fails*).

California: A Arizona - Chihuahua (*Dislodged*).
California: A Chihuahua - West Texas.
California: F Hawaii - Mid Pacific Ocean (*Dislodged*).
California: A Kentucky - Tennessee (*Fails*).
California: A Missouri - Arkansas (*Dislodged*).
California: A New Mexico Supports A Chihuahua - West Texas.
California: A Oklahoma Supports A Missouri - Arkansas (*Cut*).
California: F South Pacific Ocean Supports F Hawaii - Mid Pacific Ocean (*Cut*).
California: A Utah - Arizona (*Fails*).
California: A Virginia Supports A Kentucky - Tennessee (*Cut*).

Florida: F Arkansas Supports A Tennessee - Missouri.
Florida: A Dallas - Oklahoma (*Fails*).
Florida: F Deep South Supports A Georgia - Tennessee.
Florida: F East Coast Convoys A Miami - New Jersey.
Florida: A Florida Panhandle - Georgia.
Florida: A Georgia - Tennessee.
Florida: A Houston - Louisiana.
Florida: F Lesser Antilles Hold.
Florida: A Miami - New Jersey.
Florida: F North Carolina - Virginia (*Fails*).
Florida: A Tennessee - Missouri.
Florida: A Washington DC - Philadelphia (*Fails*).

NewYork: A New Jersey Supports A Philadelphia (*Disbanded*).
NewYork: A Philadelphia Supports A New Jersey (*Cut*).

Quebec: F Massachusetts Bay Supports F Cape May.

Cuba: A Venezuela Hold.

Mexico: A Baja California - Arizona.
Mexico: A Bogota Hold.
Mexico: A Coahuila Supports A Durango - Chihuahua.
Mexico: A Durango - Chihuahua.
Mexico: F Galapagos - South Pacific Ocean (*Fails*).
Mexico: F Gulf of California Supports F Culf of Fonseca - Coast of Mexico.
Mexico: F Gulf of Campeche Hold.
Mexico: F Culf of Fonseca - Coast of Mexico.
Mexico: F Gulf of Mexico - Yucatan.
Mexico: F Mid Pacific Ocean - Hawaii.
Mexico: A Tabasco Hold.
Mexico: A West Texas Supports A Durango - Chihuahua (*Dislodged*).

The following units were dislodged:

Californian A Arizona can retreat to Colorado.
Californian F Hawaii can retreat to Southwest Pacific Ocean.
Californian A Missouri can retreat to Kansas.
Mexican A West Texas can retreat to San Antonio.

Unit locations:

BC: A Chicago, F Greenland, A Iowa, F Cape May, A Milwaukee, A Nebraska,
A Nevada, F North Pacific Ocean, F New York City, F New York State,
A Ohio, F Oregon, F San Diego, A San Francisco, F West Coast, F West
Pennsylvania, A Wyoming.
California: A Arizona, F Hawaii, A Kentucky, A Missouri, A New Mexico, A
Oklahoma, F South Pacific Ocean, A Utah, A Virginia, A West Texas.
Florida: F Arkansas, A Dallas, F Deep South, F East Coast, A Georgia, F
Lesser Antilles, A Louisiana, A Missouri, F North Carolina, A New
Jersey, A Tennessee, A Washington DC.
NewYork: A New Jersey, A Philadelphia.
Quebec: F Massachusetts Bay.
Cuba: A Venezuela.
Mexico: A Arizona, A Bogota, A Chihuahua, A Coahuila, F Coast of Mexico, F
Galapagos, F Gulf of California, F Gulf of Campeche, F Hawaii, A
Tabasco, A West Texas, F Yucatan.

Ownership of supply centers:

BC: Anchorage, Calgary, Chicago, Greenland, Los Angeles, Manitoba,
Massachussets, Michigan, Milwaukee, Minneapolis, Montreal, New York
City, Ohio, Ontario, Oregon, Quebec City, San Diego, San Francisco,
Ungava, Vancouver, Washington.
California: Colorado, Kansas.
Florida: Dallas, Dominican Republic, Georgia, Havana, Holquin, Houston,
Jacksonville, Kingston, Louisiana, Miami, Missouri, North Carolina,
Tampa, Tennessee, Washington DC.
NewYork: New Jersey, Philadelphia.
Quebec: Nova Scotia.
Cuba: Venezuela.
Mexico: Arizona, Bogota, Cali, Chihuahua, Durango, Guadalajara, Guatemala,
Hawaii, Lima, Mexico City, Nicaragua, Nuevo Leon, Panama, San
Antonio, Veracruz, Yucatan.

BC: 21 Supply centers, 17 Units: Builds 3 units.
California: 2 Supply centers, 10 Units: Removes 8 units.
Florida: 15 Supply centers, 12 Units: Builds 3 units.
Heartland: 0 Supply centers, 0 Units: Builds 0 units.
NewYork: 2 Supply centers, 2 Units: Builds 0 units.
Quebec: 1 Supply center, 1 Unit: Builds 0 units.
Peru: 0 Supply centers, 0 Units: Builds 0 units.
Texas: 0 Supply centers, 0 Units: Builds 0 units.
Cuba: 1 Supply center, 1 Unit: Builds 0 units.
Mexico: 16 Supply centers, 12 Units: Builds 3 units.


NEXT DEADLINE: WINTER 2012 ADJUSTMENTS DUE SUNDAY, AUGUST 3RD (11:59 PM GMT)!!








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DC138 Winter Of Our Discontent - Early Winter 2012... - test_gm   (Sep 13, 2007, 12:00 am)
And today the great Yertle, that Marvelous he,
Is King of the Mud. That is all he can see.
And the turtles, of course... all the turtles are free
As turtles and, maybe, all creatures should be.

..............

San Antonio, Kansas, Colorado and the South-West Pacific all are retreated to. (Ray or Bruce, if OTB is preferred then please just let me know.) With that, we and the great Yertle move onwards into the Winter of 2012. Deadline remains as previously published - on Sunday, August 3rd (11:59 PM GMT).

Cheers everyone!

Trout In The Hat

Retreat orders for Fall of 2012. (DC138 12 EW)

California: A Arizona - Colorado.
California: F Hawaii - Southwest Pacific Ocean.
California: A Missouri - Kansas.

Mexico: A West Texas - San Antonio.

Unit locations:

BC: A Chicago, F Greenland, A Iowa, F Cape May, A Milwaukee, A Nebraska,
A Nevada, F North Pacific Ocean, F New York City, F New York State,
A Ohio, F Oregon, F San Diego, A San Francisco, F West Coast, F West
Pennsylvania, A Wyoming.
California: A Colorado, A Kansas, A Kentucky, A New Mexico, A Oklahoma, F South
Pacific Ocean, F Southwest Pacific Ocean, A Utah, A Virginia, A West
Texas.
Florida: F Arkansas, A Dallas, F Deep South, F East Coast, A Georgia, F
Lesser Antilles, A Louisiana, A Missouri, F North Carolina, A New
Jersey, A Tennessee, A Washington DC.
NewYork: A Philadelphia.
Quebec: F Massachusetts Bay.
Cuba: A Venezuela.
Mexico: A Arizona, A Bogota, A Chihuahua, A Coahuila, F Coast of Mexico, F
Galapagos, F Gulf of California, F Gulf of Campeche, F Hawaii, A San
Antonio, A Tabasco, F Yucatan.

Ownership of supply centers:

BC: Anchorage, Calgary, Chicago, Greenland, Los Angeles, Manitoba,
Massachussets, Michigan, Milwaukee, Minneapolis, Montreal, New York
City, Ohio, Ontario, Oregon, Quebec City, San Diego, San Francisco,
Ungava, Vancouver, Washington.
California: Colorado, Kansas.
Florida: Dallas, Dominican Republic, Georgia, Havana, Holquin, Houston,
Jacksonville, Kingston, Louisiana, Miami, Missouri, North Carolina,
New Jersey, Tampa, Tennessee, Washington DC.
NewYork: Philadelphia.
Quebec: Nova Scotia.
Cuba: Venezuela.
Mexico: Arizona, Bogota, Cali, Chihuahua, Durango, Guadalajara, Guatemala,
Hawaii, Lima, Mexico City, Nicaragua, Nuevo Leon, Panama, San
Antonio, Veracruz, Yucatan.

BC: 21 Supply centers, 17 Units: Builds 3 units.
California: 2 Supply centers, 10 Units: Removes 8 units.
Florida: 16 Supply centers, 12 Units: Builds 3 units.
Heartland: 0 Supply centers, 0 Units: Builds 0 units.
NewYork: 1 Supply center, 1 Unit: Builds 0 units.
Quebec: 1 Supply center, 1 Unit: Builds 0 units.
Peru: 0 Supply centers, 0 Units: Builds 0 units.
Texas: 0 Supply centers, 0 Units: Builds 0 units.
Cuba: 1 Supply center, 1 Unit: Builds 0 units.
Mexico: 16 Supply centers, 12 Units: Builds 3 units.


NEXT DEADLINE: WINTER 2012 ADJUSTMENTS DUE SUNDAY, AUGUST 3RD (11:59 PM GMT)!!

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DC138 Winter Of Our Discontent - Early Winter 2012... - test_gm   (Sep 13, 2007, 12:00 am)
Holy cow, I’ve never seen a…

Removes 8 units.


Before.

Propose a BC/Fl/Mx draw please. For winter if y’all want. Look nobody has any Centers! Aside from the 21-16-16, we all have 1 or 2. Can we call this and move on?
-mike



From: Former Trout [mailto:former.trout(at)gmail.com]
Sent: Friday, August 01, 2008 10:35 PM
To: dc138
Cc: Andrew Clarke; Andrew Tanner; Bruce Quinn; Bruce Ray; Jason K; Michael Sims; Nathan Deily; Rob Ackerley; Samuel Smith; Steve Lytton
Subject: DC138 Winter Of Our Discontent - Early Winter 2012 - Crazytrain


And today the great Yertle, that Marvelous he,
Is King of the Mud. That is all he can see.
And the turtles, of course... all the turtles are free
As turtles and, maybe, all creatures should be.

..............

San Antonio, Kansas, Colorado and the South-West Pacific all are retreated to. (Ray or Bruce, if OTB is preferred then please just let me know.) With that, we and the great Yertle move onwards into the Winter of 2012. Deadline remains as previously published - on Sunday, August 3rd (11:59 PM GMT).

Cheers everyone!

Trout In The Hat

Retreat orders for Fall of 2012. (DC138 12 EW)

California: A Arizona - Colorado.
California: F Hawaii - Southwest Pacific Ocean.
California: A Missouri - Kansas.

Mexico: A West Texas - San Antonio.

Unit locations:

BC: A Chicago, F Greenland, A Iowa, F Cape May, A Milwaukee, A Nebraska,
A Nevada, F North Pacific Ocean, F New York City, F New York State,
A Ohio, F Oregon, F San Diego, A San Francisco, F West Coast, F West
Pennsylvania, A Wyoming.
California: A Colorado, A Kansas, A Kentucky, A New Mexico, A Oklahoma, F South
Pacific Ocean, F Southwest Pacific Ocean, A Utah, A Virginia, A West
Texas.
Florida: F Arkansas, A Dallas, F Deep South, F East Coast, A Georgia, F
Lesser Antilles, A Louisiana, A Missouri, F North Carolina, A New
Jersey, A Tennessee, A Washington DC.
NewYork: A Philadelphia.
Quebec: F Massachusetts Bay.
Cuba: A Venezuela.
Mexico: A Arizona, A Bogota, A Chihuahua, A Coahuila, F Coast of Mexico, F
Galapagos, F Gulf of California, F Gulf of Campeche, F Hawaii, A San
Antonio, A Tabasco, F Yucatan.

Ownership of supply centers:

BC: Anchorage, Calgary, Chicago, Greenland, Los Angeles, Manitoba,
Massachussets, Michigan, Milwaukee, Minneapolis, Montreal, New York
City, Ohio, Ontario, Oregon, Quebec City, San Diego, San Francisco,
Ungava, Vancouver, Washington.
California: Colorado, Kansas.
Florida: Dallas, Dominican Republic, Georgia, Havana, Holquin, Houston,
Jacksonville, Kingston, Louisiana, Miami, Missouri, North Carolina,
New Jersey, Tampa, Tennessee, Washington DC.
NewYork: Philadelphia.
Quebec: Nova Scotia.
Cuba: Venezuela.
Mexico: Arizona, Bogota, Cali, Chihuahua, Durango, Guadalajara, Guatemala,
Hawaii, Lima, Mexico City, Nicaragua, Nuevo Leon, Panama, San
Antonio, Veracruz, Yucatan.

BC: 21 Supply centers, 17 Units: Builds 3 units.
California: 2 Supply centers, 10 Units: Removes 8 units.
Florida: 16 Supply centers, 12 Units: Builds 3 units.
Heartland: 0 Supply centers, 0 Units: Builds 0 units.
NewYork: 1 Supply center, 1 Unit: Builds 0 units.
Quebec: 1 Supply center, 1 Unit: Builds 0 units.
Peru: 0 Supply centers, 0 Units: Builds 0 units.
Texas: 0 Supply centers, 0 Units: Builds 0 units.
Cuba: 1 Supply center, 1 Unit: Builds 0 units.
Mexico: 16 Supply centers, 12 Units: Builds 3 units.


NEXT DEADLINE: WINTER 2012 ADJUSTMENTS DUE SUNDAY, AUGUST 3RD (11:59 PM GMT)!!

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DC138 Winter Of Our Discontent - Early Winter 2012... - test_gm   (Sep 13, 2007, 12:00 am)
All right, all right.. Two proposals have hit the books now. Was going to wait until Winter to announce them, but okay:

1. BC Solo Proposal
2. BC/Mex/Fla Draw

If I receive all votes in by the Winter deadline, I'll announce the results. Otherwise I'll put the voting deadline along with the Spring 2013 orders.

Cheers!

Trout

On Fri, Aug 1, 2008 at 9:46 PM, Michael Sims <mike(at)southwall.com ([email]mike(at)southwall.com[/email])> wrote:


Holy cow, I've never seen a…

Removes 8 units.


Before.

Propose a BC/Fl/Mx draw please. For winter if y'all want. Look nobody has any Centers! Aside from the 21-16-16, we all have 1 or 2. Can we call this and move on?
-mike



From: Former Trout [mailto:former.trout(at)gmail.com ([email]former.trout(at)gmail.com[/email])]
Sent: Friday, August 01, 2008 10:35 PM
To: dc138
Cc: Andrew Clarke; Andrew Tanner; Bruce Quinn; Bruce Ray; Jason K; Michael Sims; Nathan Deily; Rob Ackerley; Samuel Smith; Steve Lytton
Subject: DC138 Winter Of Our Discontent - Early Winter 2012 - Crazytrain



And today the great Yertle, that Marvelous he,
Is King of the Mud. That is all he can see.
And the turtles, of course... all the turtles are free
As turtles and, maybe, all creatures should be.

..............

San Antonio, Kansas, Colorado and the South-West Pacific all are retreated to. (Ray or Bruce, if OTB is preferred then please just let me know.) With that, we and the great Yertle move onwards into the Winter of 2012. Deadline remains as previously published - on Sunday, August 3rd (11:59 PM GMT).

Cheers everyone!

Trout In The Hat

Retreat orders for Fall of 2012. (DC138 12 EW)

California: A Arizona - Colorado.
California: F Hawaii - Southwest Pacific Ocean.
California: A Missouri - Kansas.

Mexico: A West Texas - San Antonio.

Unit locations:

BC: A Chicago, F Greenland, A Iowa, F Cape May, A Milwaukee, A Nebraska,
A Nevada, F North Pacific Ocean, F New York City, F New York State,
A Ohio, F Oregon, F San Diego, A San Francisco, F West Coast, F West
Pennsylvania, A Wyoming.
California: A Colorado, A Kansas, A Kentucky, A New Mexico, A Oklahoma, F South
Pacific Ocean, F Southwest Pacific Ocean, A Utah, A Virginia, A West
Texas.
Florida: F Arkansas, A Dallas, F Deep South, F East Coast, A Georgia, F
Lesser Antilles, A Louisiana, A Missouri, F North Carolina, A New
Jersey, A Tennessee, A Washington DC.
NewYork: A Philadelphia.
Quebec: F Massachusetts Bay.
Cuba: A Venezuela.
Mexico: A Arizona, A Bogota, A Chihuahua, A Coahuila, F Coast of Mexico, F
Galapagos, F Gulf of California, F Gulf of Campeche, F Hawaii, A San
Antonio, A Tabasco, F Yucatan.

Ownership of supply centers:

BC: Anchorage, Calgary, Chicago, Greenland, Los Angeles, Manitoba,
Massachussets, Michigan, Milwaukee, Minneapolis, Montreal, New York
City, Ohio, Ontario, Oregon, Quebec City, San Diego, San Francisco,
Ungava, Vancouver, Washington.
California: Colorado, Kansas.
Florida: Dallas, Dominican Republic, Georgia, Havana, Holquin, Houston,
Jacksonville, Kingston, Louisiana, Miami, Missouri, North Carolina,
New Jersey, Tampa, Tennessee, Washington DC.
NewYork: Philadelphia.
Quebec: Nova Scotia.
Cuba: Venezuela.
Mexico: Arizona, Bogota, Cali, Chihuahua, Durango, Guadalajara, Guatemala,
Hawaii, Lima, Mexico City, Nicaragua, Nuevo Leon, Panama, San
Antonio, Veracruz, Yucatan.

BC: 21 Supply centers, 17 Units: Builds 3 units.
California: 2 Supply centers, 10 Units: Removes 8 units.
Florida: 16 Supply centers, 12 Units: Builds 3 units.
Heartland: 0 Supply centers, 0 Units: Builds 0 units.
NewYork: 1 Supply center, 1 Unit: Builds 0 units.
Quebec: 1 Supply center, 1 Unit: Builds 0 units.
Peru: 0 Supply centers, 0 Units: Builds 0 units.
Texas: 0 Supply centers, 0 Units: Builds 0 units.
Cuba: 1 Supply center, 1 Unit: Builds 0 units.
Mexico: 16 Supply centers, 12 Units: Builds 3 units.


NEXT DEADLINE: WINTER 2012 ADJUSTMENTS DUE SUNDAY, AUGUST 3RD (11:59 PM GMT)!!




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DC138 Winter Of Our Discontent - Early Winter 2012... - test_gm   (Sep 13, 2007, 12:00 am)
Quebec votes yes to both


Sent from my wireless handheld


-----Original Message-----
From: Former Trout [mailto:former.trout(at)gmail.com ([email]former.trout(at)gmail.com[/email])]
Sent: Saturday, August 02, 2008 10:18 AM Pacific Standard Time
To: Michael Sims
Cc: dc138; Andrew Clarke; Andrew Tanner; Bruce Quinn; Bruce Ray; Jason K; Nathan Deily; Rob Ackerley; Samuel Smith; Steve Lytton
Subject: Re: DC138 Winter Of Our Discontent - Early Winter 2012 - Crazytrain

All right, all right.. Two proposals have hit the books now. Was going to
wait until Winter to announce them, but okay:

1. BC Solo Proposal
2. BC/Mex/Fla Draw

If I receive all votes in by the Winter deadline, I'll announce the
results. Otherwise I'll put the voting deadline along with the Spring 2013
orders.

Cheers!

Trout

On Fri, Aug 1, 2008 at 9:46 PM, Michael Sims <mike(at)southwall.com> wrote:

Holy cow, I've never seen a…



Removes 8 units.

Before.



Propose a BC/Fl/Mx draw please. For winter if y'all want. Look nobody has
any Centers! Aside from the 21-16-16, we all have 1 or 2. Can we call this
and move on?

-mike




------------------------------

*From:* Former Trout [mailto:former.trout(at)gmail.com ([email]former.trout(at)gmail.com[/email])]
*Sent:* Friday, August 01, 2008 10:35 PM
*To:* dc138
*Cc:* Andrew Clarke; Andrew Tanner; Bruce Quinn; Bruce Ray; Jason K;
Michael Sims; Nathan Deily; Rob Ackerley; Samuel Smith; Steve Lytton
*Subject:* DC138 Winter Of Our Discontent - Early Winter 2012 - Crazytrain



*And today the great Yertle, that Marvelous he,
Is King of the Mud. That is all he can see.
And the turtles, of course... all the turtles are free
As turtles and, maybe, all creatures should be.

..............

*San Antonio, Kansas, Colorado and the South-West Pacific all are
retreated to. (Ray or Bruce, if OTB is preferred then please just let me
know.) With that, we and the great Yertle move onwards into the Winter of
2012. Deadline remains as previously published - on Sunday, August 3rd
(11:59 PM GMT).

Cheers everyone!

Trout In The Hat

Retreat orders for Fall of 2012. (DC138 12 EW)

California: A Arizona - Colorado.
California: F Hawaii - Southwest Pacific Ocean.
California: A Missouri - Kansas.

Mexico: A West Texas - San Antonio.

Unit locations:

BC: A Chicago, F Greenland, A Iowa, F Cape May, A Milwaukee, A
Nebraska,
A Nevada, F North Pacific Ocean, F New York City, F New York
State,
A Ohio, F Oregon, F San Diego, A San Francisco, F West Coast, F
West
Pennsylvania, A Wyoming.
California: A Colorado, A Kansas, A Kentucky, A New Mexico, A Oklahoma, F
South
Pacific Ocean, F Southwest Pacific Ocean, A Utah, A Virginia, A
West
Texas.
Florida: F Arkansas, A Dallas, F Deep South, F East Coast, A Georgia, F
Lesser Antilles, A Louisiana, A Missouri, F North Carolina, A
New
Jersey, A Tennessee, A Washington DC.
NewYork: A Philadelphia.
Quebec: F Massachusetts Bay.
Cuba: A Venezuela.
Mexico: A Arizona, A Bogota, A Chihuahua, A Coahuila, F Coast of Mexico,
F
Galapagos, F Gulf of California, F Gulf of Campeche, F Hawaii, A
San
Antonio, A Tabasco, F Yucatan.

Ownership of supply centers:

BC: Anchorage, Calgary, Chicago, Greenland, Los Angeles, Manitoba,
Massachussets, Michigan, Milwaukee, Minneapolis, Montreal, New
York
City, Ohio, Ontario, Oregon, Quebec City, San Diego, San
Francisco,
Ungava, Vancouver, Washington.
California: Colorado, Kansas.
Florida: Dallas, Dominican Republic, Georgia, Havana, Holquin, Houston,
Jacksonville, Kingston, Louisiana, Miami, Missouri, North
Carolina,
New Jersey, Tampa, Tennessee, Washington DC.
NewYork: Philadelphia.
Quebec: Nova Scotia.
Cuba: Venezuela.
Mexico: Arizona, Bogota, Cali, Chihuahua, Durango, Guadalajara,
Guatemala,
Hawaii, Lima, Mexico City, Nicaragua, Nuevo Leon, Panama, San
Antonio, Veracruz, Yucatan.

BC: 21 Supply centers, 17 Units: Builds 3 units.
California: 2 Supply centers, 10 Units: Removes 8 units.
Florida: 16 Supply centers, 12 Units: Builds 3 units.
Heartland: 0 Supply centers, 0 Units: Builds 0 units.
NewYork: 1 Supply center, 1 Unit: Builds 0 units.
Quebec: 1 Supply center, 1 Unit: Builds 0 units.
Peru: 0 Supply centers, 0 Units: Builds 0 units.
Texas: 0 Supply centers, 0 Units: Builds 0 units.
Cuba: 1 Supply center, 1 Unit: Builds 0 units.
Mexico: 16 Supply centers, 12 Units: Builds 3 units.


*NEXT DEADLINE: WINTER 2012 ADJUSTMENTS DUE SUNDAY, AUGUST 3RD (11:59 PM
GMT)!!*

[Reply]

DC138 Winter Of Our Discontent - Early Winter 2012... - test_gm   (Sep 13, 2007, 12:00 am)
NY Votes yes to both... and agrees 100% with Sims... just end it...


----- Original Message ----
From: Michael Sims <mike(at)southwall.com>
To: Former Trout <former.trout(at)gmail.com>
Cc: dc138 <DC138(at)diplomaticcorp.com>; Andrew Clarke <a_c_2bcool(at)hotmail.com>; Andrew Tanner <damienthryn(at)gmail.com>; Bruce Quinn <coebq(at)yahoo.com>; Bruce Ray <raybrucea(at)aol.com>; Jason K <Githraine(at)yahoo.com>; Nathan Deily <ndeily(at)yahoo.com>; Rob Ackerley <rob_ackerley(at)yahoo.ca>; Samuel Smith <agenbite.lee(at)gmail.com>; Steve Lytton <stevelytton(at)hotmail.com>
Sent: Saturday, August 2, 2008 11:42:52 AM
Subject: Re: DC138 Winter Of Our Discontent - Early Winter 2012 - Crazytrain


Quebec votes yes to both


Sent from my wireless handheld


-----Original Message-----
From: Former Trout [mailto:former.trout(at)gmail.com ([email]former.trout(at)gmail.com[/email])]
Sent: Saturday, August 02, 2008 10:18 AM Pacific Standard Time
To: Michael Sims
Cc: dc138; Andrew Clarke; Andrew Tanner; Bruce Quinn; Bruce Ray; Jason K; Nathan Deily; Rob Ackerley; Samuel Smith; Steve Lytton
Subject: Re: DC138 Winter Of Our Discontent - Early Winter 2012 - Crazytrain

All right, all right.. Two proposals have hit the books now. Was going to
wait until Winter to announce them, but okay:

1. BC Solo Proposal
2. BC/Mex/Fla Draw

If I receive all votes in by the Winter deadline, I'll announce the
results. Otherwise I'll put the voting deadline along with the Spring 2013
orders.

Cheers!

Trout

On Fri, Aug 1, 2008 at 9:46 PM, Michael Sims <mike(at)southwall.com> wrote:

Holy cow, I've never seen a…



Removes 8 units.

Before.



Propose a BC/Fl/Mx draw please. For winter if y'all want. Look nobody has
any Centers! Aside from the 21-16-16, we all have 1 or 2. Can we call this
and move on?

-mike




------------------------------

*From:* Former Trout [mailto:former.trout(at)gmail.com ([email]former.trout(at)gmail.com[/email])]
*Sent:* Friday, August 01, 2008 10:35 PM
*To:* dc138
*Cc:* Andrew Clarke; Andrew Tanner; Bruce Quinn; Bruce Ray; Jason K;
Michael Sims; Nathan Deily; Rob Ackerley; Samuel Smith; Steve Lytton
*Subject:* DC138 Winter Of Our Discontent - Early Winter 2012 - Crazytrain



*And today the great Yertle, that Marvelous he,
Is King of the Mud. That is all he can see.
And the turtles, of course... all the turtles are free
As turtles and, maybe, all creatures should be.

..............

*San Antonio, Kansas, Colorado and the South-West Pacific all are
retreated to. (Ray or Bruce, if OTB is preferred then please just let me
know.) With that, we and the great Yertle move onwards into the Winter of
2012. Deadline remains as previously published - on Sunday, August 3rd
(11:59 PM GMT).

Cheers everyone!

Trout In The Hat

Retreat orders for Fall of 2012. (DC138 12 EW)

California: A Arizona - Colorado.
California: F Hawaii - Southwest Pacific Ocean.
California: A Missouri - Kansas.

Mexico: A West Texas - San Antonio.

Unit locations:

BC: A Chicago, F Greenland, A Iowa, F Cape May, A Milwaukee, A
Nebraska,
A Nevada, F North Pacific Ocean, F New York City, F New York
State,
A Ohio, F Oregon, F San Diego, A San Francisco, F West Coast, F
West
Pennsylvania, A Wyoming.
California: A Colorado, A Kansas, A Kentucky, A New Mexico, A Oklahoma, F
South
Pacific Ocean, F Southwest Pacific Ocean, A Utah, A Virginia, A
West
Texas.
Florida: F Arkansas, A Dallas, F Deep South, F East Coast, A Georgia, F
Lesser Antilles, A Louisiana, A Missouri, F North Carolina, A
New
Jersey, A Tennessee, A Washington DC.
NewYork: A Philadelphia.
Quebec: F Massachusetts Bay.
Cuba: A Venezuela.
Mexico: A Arizona, A Bogota, A Chihuahua, A Coahuila, F Coast of Mexico,
F
Galapagos, F Gulf of California, F Gulf of Campeche, F Hawaii, A
San
Antonio, A Tabasco, F Yucatan.

Ownership of supply centers:

BC: Anchorage, Calgary, Chicago, Greenland, Los Angeles, Manitoba,
Massachussets, Michigan, Milwaukee, Minneapolis, Montreal, New
York
City, Ohio, Ontario, Oregon, Quebec City, San Diego, San
Francisco,
Ungava, Vancouver, Washington.
California: Colorado, Kansas.
Florida: Dallas, Dominican Republic, Georgia, Havana, Holquin, Houston,
Jacksonville, Kingston, Louisiana, Miami, Missouri, North
Carolina,
New Jersey, Tampa, Tennessee, Washington DC.
NewYork: Philadelphia.
Quebec: Nova Scotia.
Cuba: Venezuela.
Mexico: Arizona, Bogota, Cali, Chihuahua, Durango, Guadalajara,
Guatemala,
Hawaii, Lima, Mexico City, Nicaragua, Nuevo Leon, Panama, San
Antonio, Veracruz, Yucatan.

BC: 21 Supply centers, 17 Units: Builds 3 units.
California: 2 Supply centers, 10 Units: Removes 8 units.
Florida: 16 Supply centers, 12 Units: Builds 3 units.
Heartland: 0 Supply centers, 0 Units: Builds 0 units.
NewYork: 1 Supply center, 1 Unit: Builds 0 units.
Quebec: 1 Supply center, 1 Unit: Builds 0 units.
Peru: 0 Supply centers, 0 Units: Builds 0 units.
Texas: 0 Supply centers, 0 Units: Builds 0 units.
Cuba: 1 Supply center, 1 Unit: Builds 0 units.
Mexico: 16 Supply centers, 12 Units: Builds 3 units.


*NEXT DEADLINE: WINTER 2012 ADJUSTMENTS DUE SUNDAY, AUGUST 3RD (11:59 PM
GMT)!!*








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[Reply]

DC138 Winter Of Our Discontent - Early Winter 2012... - test_gm   (Sep 13, 2007, 12:00 am)
Cuba is Yes to both


----- Original Message ----
From: Former Trout <former.trout(at)gmail.com>
To: Michael Sims <mike(at)southwall.com>
Cc: dc138 <DC138(at)diplomaticcorp.com>; Andrew Clarke <a_c_2bcool(at)hotmail.com>; Andrew Tanner <damienthryn(at)gmail.com>; Bruce Quinn <coebq(at)yahoo.com>; Bruce Ray <raybrucea(at)aol.com>; Jason K <Githraine(at)yahoo.com>; Nathan Deily <ndeily(at)yahoo.com>; Rob Ackerley <rob_ackerley(at)yahoo.ca>; Samuel Smith <agenbite.lee(at)gmail.com>; Steve Lytton <stevelytton(at)hotmail.com>
Sent: Saturday, August 2, 2008 1:17:57 PM
Subject: Re: DC138 Winter Of Our Discontent - Early Winter 2012 - Crazytrain

All right, all right.. Two proposals have hit the books now. Was going to wait until Winter to announce them, but okay:

1. BC Solo Proposal
2. BC/Mex/Fla Draw

If I receive all votes in by the Winter deadline, I'll announce the results. Otherwise I'll put the voting deadline along with the Spring 2013 orders.

Cheers!

Trout

On Fri, Aug 1, 2008 at 9:46 PM, Michael Sims <mike(at)southwall.com ([email]mike(at)southwall.com[/email])> wrote:


Holy cow, I've never seen a…

Removes 8 units.


Before.

Propose a BC/Fl/Mx draw please. For winter if y'all want. Look nobody has any Centers! Aside from the 21-16-16, we all have 1 or 2. Can we call this and move on?
-mike



From: Former Trout [mailto:former.trout(at)gmail.com ([email]former.trout(at)gmail.com[/email])]
Sent: Friday, August 01, 2008 10:35 PM
To: dc138
Cc: Andrew Clarke; Andrew Tanner; Bruce Quinn; Bruce Ray; Jason K; Michael Sims; Nathan Deily; Rob Ackerley; Samuel Smith; Steve Lytton
Subject: DC138 Winter Of Our Discontent - Early Winter 2012 - Crazytrain



And today the great Yertle, that Marvelous he,
Is King of the Mud. That is all he can see.
And the turtles, of course... all the turtles are free
As turtles and, maybe, all creatures should be.

..............

San Antonio, Kansas, Colorado and the South-West Pacific all are retreated to. (Ray or Bruce, if OTB is preferred then please just let me know.) With that, we and the great Yertle move onwards into the Winter of 2012. Deadline remains as previously published - on Sunday, August 3rd (11:59 PM GMT).

Cheers everyone!

Trout In The Hat

Retreat orders for Fall of 2012. (DC138 12 EW)

California: A Arizona - Colorado.
California: F Hawaii - Southwest Pacific Ocean.
California: A Missouri - Kansas.

Mexico: A West Texas - San Antonio.

Unit locations:

BC: A Chicago, F Greenland, A Iowa, F Cape May, A Milwaukee, A Nebraska,
A Nevada, F North Pacific Ocean, F New York City, F New York State,
A Ohio, F Oregon, F San Diego, A San Francisco, F West Coast, F West
Pennsylvania, A Wyoming.
California: A Colorado, A Kansas, A Kentucky, A New Mexico, A Oklahoma, F South
Pacific Ocean, F Southwest Pacific Ocean, A Utah, A Virginia, A West
Texas.
Florida: F Arkansas, A Dallas, F Deep South, F East Coast, A Georgia, F
Lesser Antilles, A Louisiana, A Missouri, F North Carolina, A New
Jersey, A Tennessee, A Washington DC.
NewYork: A Philadelphia.
Quebec: F Massachusetts Bay.
Cuba: A Venezuela.
Mexico: A Arizona, A Bogota, A Chihuahua, A Coahuila, F Coast of Mexico, F
Galapagos, F Gulf of California, F Gulf of Campeche, F Hawaii, A San
Antonio, A Tabasco, F Yucatan.

Ownership of supply centers:

BC: Anchorage, Calgary, Chicago, Greenland, Los Angeles, Manitoba,
Massachussets, Michigan, Milwaukee, Minneapolis, Montreal, New York
City, Ohio, Ontario, Oregon, Quebec City, San Diego, San Francisco,
Ungava, Vancouver, Washington.
California: Colorado, Kansas.
Florida: Dallas, Dominican Republic, Georgia, Havana, Holquin, Houston,
Jacksonville, Kingston, Louisiana, Miami, Missouri, North Carolina,
New Jersey, Tampa, Tennessee, Washington DC.
NewYork: Philadelphia.
Quebec: Nova Scotia.
Cuba: Venezuela.
Mexico: Arizona, Bogota, Cali, Chihuahua, Durango, Guadalajara, Guatemala,
Hawaii, Lima, Mexico City, Nicaragua, Nuevo Leon, Panama, San
Antonio, Veracruz, Yucatan.

BC: 21 Supply centers, 17 Units: Builds 3 units.
California: 2 Supply centers, 10 Units: Removes 8 units.
Florida: 16 Supply centers, 12 Units: Builds 3 units.
Heartland: 0 Supply centers, 0 Units: Builds 0 units.
NewYork: 1 Supply center, 1 Unit: Builds 0 units.
Quebec: 1 Supply center, 1 Unit: Builds 0 units.
Peru: 0 Supply centers, 0 Units: Builds 0 units.
Texas: 0 Supply centers, 0 Units: Builds 0 units.
Cuba: 1 Supply center, 1 Unit: Builds 0 units.
Mexico: 16 Supply centers, 12 Units: Builds 3 units.


NEXT DEADLINE: WINTER 2012 ADJUSTMENTS DUE SUNDAY, AUGUST 3RD (11:59 PM GMT)!!




[Reply]

DC138 Winter Of Our Discontent - Early Winter 2012... - test_gm   (Sep 13, 2007, 12:00 am)
Yes to both.

I count on Bruce and Lee to vote down the solo. I'd vote against it myself but if everyone REALLY wants me to solo (yeah, right) I can't argue.

So can we call it a BC/Florida/Mexico draw and not go through the pain of wiping whomever we suspect is voting down the draws (and proposing BC solos to get Mex and Florida to attack me?)

On Sat, Aug 2, 2008 at 2:04 PM, Jason K <githraine(at)yahoo.com ([email]githraine(at)yahoo.com[/email])> wrote:

Cuba is Yes to both


----- Original Message ----
From: Former Trout <former.trout(at)gmail.com ([email]former.trout(at)gmail.com[/email])>
To: Michael Sims <mike(at)southwall.com ([email]mike(at)southwall.com[/email])>
Cc: dc138 <DC138(at)diplomaticcorp.com ([email]DC138(at)diplomaticcorp.com[/email])>; Andrew Clarke <a_c_2bcool(at)hotmail.com ([email]a_c_2bcool(at)hotmail.com[/email])>; Andrew Tanner <damienthryn(at)gmail.com ([email]damienthryn(at)gmail.com[/email])>; Bruce Quinn <coebq(at)yahoo.com ([email]coebq(at)yahoo.com[/email])>; Bruce Ray <raybrucea(at)aol.com ([email]raybrucea(at)aol.com[/email])>; Jason K <Githraine(at)yahoo.com ([email]Githraine(at)yahoo.com[/email])>; Nathan Deily <ndeily(at)yahoo.com ([email]ndeily(at)yahoo.com[/email])>; Rob Ackerley <rob_ackerley(at)yahoo.ca ([email]rob_ackerley(at)yahoo.ca[/email])>; Samuel Smith <agenbite.lee(at)gmail.com ([email]agenbite.lee(at)gmail.com[/email])>; Steve Lytton <stevelytton(at)hotmail.com ([email]stevelytton(at)hotmail.com[/email])>


Sent: Saturday, August 2, 2008 1:17:57 PM
Subject: Re: DC138 Winter Of Our Discontent - Early Winter 2012 - Crazytrain

All right, all right.. Two proposals have hit the books now. Was going to wait until Winter to announce them, but okay:

1. BC Solo Proposal
2. BC/Mex/Fla Draw

If I receive all votes in by the Winter deadline, I'll announce the results. Otherwise I'll put the voting deadline along with the Spring 2013 orders.

Cheers!

Trout

On Fri, Aug 1, 2008 at 9:46 PM, Michael Sims <mike(at)southwall.com ([email]mike(at)southwall.com[/email])> wrote:
[quote:df1f8f1bb0]
Holy cow, I've never seen a…

Removes 8 units.


Before.

Propose a BC/Fl/Mx draw please. For winter if y'all want. Look nobody has any Centers! Aside from the 21-16-16, we all have 1 or 2. Can we call this and move on?
-mike



From: Former Trout [mailto:former.trout(at)gmail.com ([email]former.trout(at)gmail.com[/email])]
Sent: Friday, August 01, 2008 10:35 PM
To: dc138
Cc: Andrew Clarke; Andrew Tanner; Bruce Quinn; Bruce Ray; Jason K; Michael Sims; Nathan Deily; Rob Ackerley; Samuel Smith; Steve Lytton
Subject: DC138 Winter Of Our Discontent - Early Winter 2012 - Crazytrain



And today the great Yertle, that Marvelous he,
Is King of the Mud. That is all he can see.
And the turtles, of course... all the turtles are free
As turtles and, maybe, all creatures should be.

..............

San Antonio, Kansas, Colorado and the South-West Pacific all are retreated to. (Ray or Bruce, if OTB is preferred then please just let me know.) With that, we and the great Yertle move onwards into the Winter of 2012. Deadline remains as previously published - on Sunday, August 3rd (11:59 PM GMT).

Cheers everyone!

Trout In The Hat

Retreat orders for Fall of 2012. (DC138 12 EW)

California: A Arizona - Colorado.
California: F Hawaii - Southwest Pacific Ocean.
California: A Missouri - Kansas.

Mexico: A West Texas - San Antonio.

Unit locations:

BC: A Chicago, F Greenland, A Iowa, F Cape May, A Milwaukee, A Nebraska,
A Nevada, F North Pacific Ocean, F New York City, F New York State,
A Ohio, F Oregon, F San Diego, A San Francisco, F West Coast, F West
Pennsylvania, A Wyoming.
California: A Colorado, A Kansas, A Kentucky, A New Mexico, A Oklahoma, F South
Pacific Ocean, F Southwest Pacific Ocean, A Utah, A Virginia, A West
Texas.
Florida: F Arkansas, A Dallas, F Deep South, F East Coast, A Georgia, F
Lesser Antilles, A Louisiana, A Missouri, F North Carolina, A New
Jersey, A Tennessee, A Washington DC.
NewYork: A Philadelphia.
Quebec: F Massachusetts Bay.
Cuba: A Venezuela.
Mexico: A Arizona, A Bogota, A Chihuahua, A Coahuila, F Coast of Mexico, F
Galapagos, F Gulf of California, F Gulf of Campeche, F Hawaii, A San
Antonio, A Tabasco, F Yucatan.

Ownership of supply centers:

BC: Anchorage, Calgary, Chicago, Greenland, Los Angeles, Manitoba,
Massachussets, Michigan, Milwaukee, Minneapolis, Montreal, New York
City, Ohio, Ontario, Oregon, Quebec City, San Diego, San Francisco,
Ungava, Vancouver, Washington.
California: Colorado, Kansas.
Florida: Dallas, Dominican Republic, Georgia, Havana, Holquin, Houston,
Jacksonville, Kingston, Louisiana, Miami, Missouri, North Carolina,
New Jersey, Tampa, Tennessee, Washington DC.
NewYork: Philadelphia.
Quebec: Nova Scotia.
Cuba: Venezuela.
Mexico: Arizona, Bogota, Cali, Chihuahua, Durango, Guadalajara, Guatemala,
Hawaii, Lima, Mexico City, Nicaragua, Nuevo Leon, Panama, San
Antonio, Veracruz, Yucatan.

BC: 21 Supply centers, 17 Units: Builds 3 units.
California: 2 Supply centers, 10 Units: Removes 8 units.
Florida: 16 Supply centers, 12 Units: Builds 3 units.
Heartland: 0 Supply centers, 0 Units: Builds 0 units.
NewYork: 1 Supply center, 1 Unit: Builds 0 units.
Quebec: 1 Supply center, 1 Unit: Builds 0 units.
Peru: 0 Supply centers, 0 Units: Builds 0 units.
Texas: 0 Supply centers, 0 Units: Builds 0 units.
Cuba: 1 Supply center, 1 Unit: Builds 0 units.
Mexico: 16 Supply centers, 12 Units: Builds 3 units.


NEXT DEADLINE: WINTER 2012 ADJUSTMENTS DUE SUNDAY, AUGUST 3RD (11:59 PM GMT)!!














[/quote:df1f8f1bb0]

[Reply]

DC138 WOOD - Winter 2012 Deadline Reminder - test_gm   (Sep 13, 2007, 12:00 am)
Heya WOODers,

Heres me, reminding you all that the 2012 Winter adjustments are due in just under 21 hours. I believe I am still missing one set - so please double-check for my confirmation and resend if you're missing it.

Thanks!

Trout

[Reply]

DC138 Winter Of Our Discontent - Winter 2012 - Fee... - test_gm   (Sep 13, 2007, 12:00 am)
I demand to know the name of the person(s) whom are prolonging this exercise and a pretty damn good justification for it. We have been voting every turn for the past 3 game years and for some reason that I think we all deserve to know what the point is. Obviously one of the largers feel they can solo or one of the smallers is being vendictive to repay one of the largers...

I could care less but I think we deserve to know what this person(s) feels would be an adequate outcome to this game.


----- Original Message ----
From: Former Trout <former.trout(at)gmail.com>
To: dc138 <DC138(at)diplomaticcorp.com>
Cc: Andrew Clarke <a_c_2bcool(at)hotmail.com>; Andrew Tanner <damienthryn(at)gmail.com>; Bruce Quinn <coebq(at)yahoo.com>; Bruce Ray <raybrucea(at)aol.com>; Jason K <Githraine(at)yahoo.com>; Mike Sims <mike(at)southwall.com>; Nathan Deily <ndeily(at)yahoo.com>; Rob Ackerley <rob_ackerley(at)yahoo.ca>; Samuel Smith <agenbite.lee(at)gmail.com>; Steve Lytton <stevelytton(at)hotmail.com>
Sent: Sunday, August 3, 2008 11:56:35 PM
Subject: DC138 Winter Of Our Discontent - Winter 2012 - Feed My Frankenstein

More wisdom from the book of Suess:

Don't cry because it's over. Smile because it happened.

Both draw proposals meet defeat and we proceed with the Winter adjustments. However, there's a lot of waiving going on - the only build being an army in Calgary. Meanwhile, California disbands all eight mainland armies - leaving only the southern fleets... All said and done - rather an odd Winter turn.

We move on with the Spring of 2013. Order deadline will be set for Friday, August 8th (11:59 PM GMT). Cheers folks!

Trout


Adjustment orders for Winter of 2012. (DC138 12 WIN)

BC: Build A Calgary.
BC: Build waived.
BC: Build waived.

California: Remove A Utah.
California: Remove A Colorado.
California: Remove A Kansas.
California: Remove A New Mexico.
California: Remove A West Texas.
California: Remove A Oklahoma.
California: Remove A Kentucky.
California: Remove A Virginia.

Florida: Build waived.
Florida: Build waived.
Florida: Build waived.

Mexico: Build waived.
Mexico: Build waived.
Mexico: Build waived.

Unit locations:

BC: A Calgary, A Chicago, F Greenland, A Iowa, F Cape May, A Milwaukee,
A Nebraska, A Nevada, F North Pacific Ocean, F New York City, F New
York State, A Ohio, F Oregon, F San Diego, A San Francisco, F West
Coast, F West Pennsylvania, A Wyoming.
California: F South Pacific Ocean, F Southwest Pacific Ocean.
Florida: F Arkansas, A Dallas, F Deep South, F East Coast, A Georgia, F
Lesser Antilles, A Louisiana, A Missouri, F North Carolina, A New
Jersey, A Tennessee, A Washington DC.
NewYork: A Philadelphia.
Quebec: F Massachusetts Bay.
Cuba: A Venezuela.
Mexico: A Arizona, A Bogota, A Chihuahua, A Coahuila, F Coast of Mexico, F
Galapagos, F Gulf of California, F Gulf of Campeche, F Hawaii, A San
Antonio, A Tabasco, F Yucatan.

Ownership of supply centers:

BC: Anchorage, Calgary, Chicago, Greenland, Los Angeles, Manitoba,
Massachussets, Michigan, Milwaukee, Minneapolis, Montreal, New York
City, Ohio, Ontario, Oregon, Quebec City, San Diego, San Francisco,
Ungava, Vancouver, Washington.
California: Colorado, Kansas.
Florida: Dallas, Dominican Republic, Georgia, Havana, Holquin, Houston,
Jacksonville, Kingston, Louisiana, Miami, Missouri, North Carolina,
New Jersey, Tampa, Tennessee, Washington DC.
NewYork: Philadelphia.
Quebec: Nova Scotia.
Cuba: Venezuela.
Mexico: Arizona, Bogota, Cali, Chihuahua, Durango, Guadalajara, Guatemala,
Hawaii, Lima, Mexico City, Nicaragua, Nuevo Leon, Panama, San
Antonio, Veracruz, Yucatan.


NEXT DEADLINE: SPRING 2013 ORDERS DUE FRIDAY, AUGUST 8TH (11:59 PM GMT)!!





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DC138 Winter Of Our Discontent - Winter 2012 - Fee... - test_gm   (Sep 13, 2007, 12:00 am)
Thirded and fourthed. Any chance we can take a binding, public vote to determine if we can take another binding, public vote on end of game proposals? That way we'd all be voting for a temporary change in the rules, not forced into it (assuming someone out there must be at this point.)

Or is someone just perpetually forgetting to vote on the EGPs?

If someone is angling for revenge or stirring the pot - consider this. I, the most likely candidate to be sneakily juggernauting for a solo, am HELPING my rivals move north. I informed them about a one army build so I've a reserve/hole filler. Its doubtful that I'd do that if I was angling for a solo. On their part - Lee and Bruce are not moving towards one another, and they waived all their builds this year. If they were looking for a fight, they'd have gone for the whole hog and I'd be sweating.

So bottom line - the game is a three way draw. Even if we play it out for the next two-three turns until (theoretically) all the smaller powers are gone and the three of us are all thats left the end result will be the same. Lets just declare victory and leave Mesopotamia...err pick a new map to beat one another up onSmile

On Mon, Aug 4, 2008 at 3:49 AM, Jason K <githraine(at)yahoo.com ([email]githraine(at)yahoo.com[/email])> wrote:

I second the motion



----- Original Message ----
From: Rob Ackerley <rob_ackerley(at)yahoo.ca ([email]rob_ackerley(at)yahoo.ca[/email])>
To: Former Trout <former.trout(at)gmail.com ([email]former.trout(at)gmail.com[/email])>; dc138 <DC138(at)diplomaticcorp.com ([email]DC138(at)diplomaticcorp.com[/email])>
Cc: Andrew Clarke <a_c_2bcool(at)hotmail.com ([email]a_c_2bcool(at)hotmail.com[/email])>; Andrew Tanner <damienthryn(at)gmail.com ([email]damienthryn(at)gmail.com[/email])>; Bruce Quinn <coebq(at)yahoo.com ([email]coebq(at)yahoo.com[/email])>; Bruce Ray <raybrucea(at)aol.com ([email]raybrucea(at)aol.com[/email])>; Jason K <Githraine(at)yahoo.com ([email]Githraine(at)yahoo.com[/email])>; Mike Sims <mike(at)southwall.com ([email]mike(at)southwall.com[/email])>; Nathan Deily <ndeily(at)yahoo.com ([email]ndeily(at)yahoo.com[/email])>; Samuel Smith <agenbite.lee(at)gmail.com ([email]agenbite.lee(at)gmail.com[/email])>; Steve Lytton <stevelytton(at)hotmail.com ([email]stevelytton(at)hotmail.com[/email])>
Sent: Monday, August 4, 2008 2:28:58 AM
Subject: Re: DC138 Winter Of Our Discontent - Winter 2012 - Feed My Frankenstein


I demand to know the name of the person(s) whom are prolonging this exercise and a pretty damn good justification for it. We have been voting every turn for the past 3 game years and for some reason that I think we all deserve to know what the point is. Obviously one of the largers feel they can solo or one of the smallers is being vendictive to repay one of the largers...

I could care less but I think we deserve to know what this person(s) feels would be an adequate outcome to this game.


----- Original Message ----
From: Former Trout <former.trout(at)gmail.com ([email]former.trout(at)gmail.com[/email])>
To: dc138 <DC138(at)diplomaticcorp.com ([email]DC138(at)diplomaticcorp.com[/email])>
Cc: Andrew Clarke <a_c_2bcool(at)hotmail.com ([email]a_c_2bcool(at)hotmail.com[/email])>; Andrew Tanner <damienthryn(at)gmail.com ([email]damienthryn(at)gmail.com[/email])>; Bruce Quinn <coebq(at)yahoo.com ([email]coebq(at)yahoo.com[/email])>; Bruce Ray <raybrucea(at)aol.com ([email]raybrucea(at)aol.com[/email])>; Jason K <Githraine(at)yahoo.com ([email]Githraine(at)yahoo.com[/email])>; Mike Sims <mike(at)southwall.com ([email]mike(at)southwall.com[/email])>; Nathan Deily <ndeily(at)yahoo.com ([email]ndeily(at)yahoo.com[/email])>; Rob Ackerley <rob_ackerley(at)yahoo.ca ([email]rob_ackerley(at)yahoo.ca[/email])>; Samuel Smith <agenbite.lee(at)gmail.com ([email]agenbite.lee(at)gmail.com[/email])>; Steve Lytton <stevelytton(at)hotmail.com ([email]stevelytton(at)hotmail.com[/email])>
Sent: Sunday, August 3, 2008 11:56:35 PM
Subject: DC138 Winter Of Our Discontent - Winter 2012 - Feed My Frankenstein

More wisdom from the book of Suess:

Don't cry because it's over. Smile because it happened.

Both draw proposals meet defeat and we proceed with the Winter adjustments. However, there's a lot of waiving going on - the only build being an army in Calgary. Meanwhile, California disbands all eight mainland armies - leaving only the southern fleets... All said and done - rather an odd Winter turn.

We move on with the Spring of 2013. Order deadline will be set for Friday, August 8th (11:59 PM GMT). Cheers folks!

Trout


Adjustment orders for Winter of 2012. (DC138 12 WIN)

BC: Build A Calgary.
BC: Build waived.
BC: Build waived.

California: Remove A Utah.
California: Remove A Colorado.
California: Remove A Kansas.
California: Remove A New Mexico.
California: Remove A West Texas.
California: Remove A Oklahoma.
California: Remove A Kentucky.
California: Remove A Virginia.

Florida: Build waived.
Florida: Build waived.
Florida: Build waived.

Mexico: Build waived.
Mexico: Build waived.
Mexico: Build waived.

Unit locations:

BC: A Calgary, A Chicago, F Greenland, A Iowa, F Cape May, A Milwaukee,
A Nebraska, A Nevada, F North Pacific Ocean, F New York City, F New
York State, A Ohio, F Oregon, F San Diego, A San Francisco, F West
Coast, F West Pennsylvania, A Wyoming.
California: F South Pacific Ocean, F Southwest Pacific Ocean.
Florida: F Arkansas, A Dallas, F Deep South, F East Coast, A Georgia, F
Lesser Antilles, A Louisiana, A Missouri, F North Carolina, A New
Jersey, A Tennessee, A Washington DC.
NewYork: A Philadelphia.
Quebec: F Massachusetts Bay.
Cuba: A Venezuela.
Mexico: A Arizona, A Bogota, A Chihuahua, A Coahuila, F Coast of Mexico, F
Galapagos, F Gulf of California, F Gulf of Campeche, F Hawaii, A San
Antonio, A Tabasco, F Yucatan.

Ownership of supply centers:

BC: Anchorage, Calgary, Chicago, Greenland, Los Angeles, Manitoba,
Massachussets, Michigan, Milwaukee, Minneapolis, Montreal, New York
City, Ohio, Ontario, Oregon, Quebec City, San Diego, San Francisco,
Ungava, Vancouver, Washington.
California: Colorado, Kansas.
Florida: Dallas, Dominican Republic, Georgia, Havana, Holquin, Houston,
Jacksonville, Kingston, Louisiana, Miami, Missouri, North Carolina,
New Jersey, Tampa, Tennessee, Washington DC.
NewYork: Philadelphia.
Quebec: Nova Scotia.
Cuba: Venezuela.
Mexico: Arizona, Bogota, Cali, Chihuahua, Durango, Guadalajara, Guatemala,
Hawaii, Lima, Mexico City, Nicaragua, Nuevo Leon, Panama, San
Antonio, Veracruz, Yucatan.


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DC138 Winter Of Our Discontent - Winter 2012 - Fee... - test_gm   (Sep 13, 2007, 12:00 am)
And I, could make a mental note not to trust Rob in an alliance!




Agreed...

Especially on the pick a new map and beat each other... I would be up for shake the positions and run on this one again.

rob


----- Original Message ----
From: Andrew Tanner <damienthryn(at)gmail.com>
To: Jason K <githraine(at)yahoo.com>
Cc: Rob Ackerley <rob_ackerley(at)yahoo.ca>; Former Trout <former.trout(at)gmail.com>; dc138 <DC138(at)diplomaticcorp.com>; Andrew Clarke <a_c_2bcool(at)hotmail.com>; Bruce Quinn <coebq(at)yahoo.com>; Bruce Ray <raybrucea(at)aol.com>; Mike Sims <mike(at)southwall.com>; Nathan Deily <ndeily(at)yahoo.com>; Samuel Smith <agenbite.lee(at)gmail.com>; Steve Lytton <stevelytton(at)hotmail.com>
Sent: Monday, August 4, 2008 2:44:56 PM
Subject: Re: DC138 Winter Of Our Discontent - Winter 2012 - Feed My Frankenstein

Thirded and fourthed. Any chance we can take a binding, public vote to determine if we can take another binding, public vote on end of game proposals? That way we'd all be voting for a temporary change in the rules, not forced into it (assuming someone out there must be at this point.)

Or is someone just perpetually forgetting to vote on the EGPs?

If someone is angling for revenge or stirring the pot - consider this. I, the most likely candidate to be sneakily juggernauting for a solo, am HELPING my rivals move north. I informed them about a one army build so I've a reserve/hole filler. Its doubtful that I'd do that if I was angling for a solo. On their part - Lee and Bruce are not moving towards one another, and they waived all their builds this year. If they were looking for a fight, they'd have gone for the whole hog and I'd be sweating.

So bottom line - the game is a three way draw. Even if we play it out for the next two-three turns until (theoretically) all the smaller powers are gone and the three of us are all thats left the end result will be the same. Lets just declare victory and leave Mesopotamia...err pick a new map to beat one another up onSmile

On Mon, Aug 4, 2008 at 3:49 AM, Jason K <githraine(at)yahoo.com ([email]githraine(at)yahoo.com[/email])> wrote:

I second the motion



----- Original Message ----
From: Rob Ackerley <rob_ackerley(at)yahoo.ca ([email]rob_ackerley(at)yahoo.ca[/email])>
To: Former Trout <former.trout(at)gmail.com ([email]former.trout(at)gmail.com[/email])>; dc138 <DC138(at)diplomaticcorp.com ([email]DC138(at)diplomaticcorp.com[/email])>
Cc: Andrew Clarke <a_c_2bcool(at)hotmail.com ([email]a_c_2bcool(at)hotmail.com[/email])>; Andrew Tanner <damienthryn(at)gmail.com ([email]damienthryn(at)gmail.com[/email])>; Bruce Quinn <coebq(at)yahoo.com ([email]coebq(at)yahoo.com[/email])>; Bruce Ray <raybrucea(at)aol.com ([email]raybrucea(at)aol.com[/email])>; Jason K <Githraine(at)yahoo.com ([email]Githraine(at)yahoo.com[/email])>; Mike Sims <mike(at)southwall.com ([email]mike(at)southwall.com[/email])>; Nathan Deily <ndeily(at)yahoo.com ([email]ndeily(at)yahoo.com[/email])>; Samuel Smith <agenbite.lee(at)gmail.com ([email]agenbite.lee(at)gmail.com[/email])>; Steve Lytton <stevelytton(at)hotmail.com ([email]stevelytton(at)hotmail.com[/email])>
Sent: Monday, August 4, 2008 2:28:58 AM
Subject: Re: DC138 Winter Of Our Discontent - Winter 2012 - Feed My Frankenstein


I demand to know the name of the person(s) whom are prolonging this exercise and a pretty damn good justification for it. We have been voting every turn for the past 3 game years and for some reason that I think we all deserve to know what the point is. Obviously one of the largers feel they can solo or one of the smallers is being vendictive to repay one of the largers...

I could care less but I think we deserve to know what this person(s) feels would be an adequate outcome to this game.


----- Original Message ----
From: Former Trout <former.trout(at)gmail.com ([email]former.trout(at)gmail.com[/email])>
To: dc138 <DC138(at)diplomaticcorp.com ([email]DC138(at)diplomaticcorp.com[/email])>
Cc: Andrew Clarke <a_c_2bcool(at)hotmail.com ([email]a_c_2bcool(at)hotmail.com[/email])>; Andrew Tanner <damienthryn(at)gmail.com ([email]damienthryn(at)gmail.com[/email])>; Bruce Quinn <coebq(at)yahoo.com ([email]coebq(at)yahoo.com[/email])>; Bruce Ray <raybrucea(at)aol.com ([email]raybrucea(at)aol.com[/email])>; Jason K <Githraine(at)yahoo.com ([email]Githraine(at)yahoo.com[/email])>; Mike Sims <mike(at)southwall.com ([email]mike(at)southwall.com[/email])>; Nathan Deily <ndeily(at)yahoo.com ([email]ndeily(at)yahoo.com[/email])>; Rob Ackerley <rob_ackerley(at)yahoo.ca ([email]rob_ackerley(at)yahoo.ca[/email])>; Samuel Smith <agenbite.lee(at)gmail.com ([email]agenbite.lee(at)gmail.com[/email])>; Steve Lytton <stevelytton(at)hotmail.com ([email]stevelytton(at)hotmail.com[/email])>
Sent: Sunday, August 3, 2008 11:56:35 PM
Subject: DC138 Winter Of Our Discontent - Winter 2012 - Feed My Frankenstein

More wisdom from the book of Suess:

Don't cry because it's over. Smile because it happened.

Both draw proposals meet defeat and we proceed with the Winter adjustments. However, there's a lot of waiving going on - the only build being an army in Calgary. Meanwhile, California disbands all eight mainland armies - leaving only the southern fleets... All said and done - rather an odd Winter turn.

We move on with the Spring of 2013. Order deadline will be set for Friday, August 8th (11:59 PM GMT). Cheers folks!

Trout


Adjustment orders for Winter of 2012. (DC138 12 WIN)

BC: Build A Calgary.
BC: Build waived.
BC: Build waived.

California: Remove A Utah.
California: Remove A Colorado.
California: Remove A Kansas.
California: Remove A New Mexico.
California: Remove A West Texas.
California: Remove A Oklahoma.
California: Remove A Kentucky.
California: Remove A Virginia.

Florida: Build waived.
Florida: Build waived.
Florida: Build waived.

Mexico: Build waived.
Mexico: Build waived.
Mexico: Build waived.

Unit locations:

BC: A Calgary, A Chicago, F Greenland, A Iowa, F Cape May, A Milwaukee,
A Nebraska, A Nevada, F North Pacific Ocean, F New York City, F New
York State, A Ohio, F Oregon, F San Diego, A San Francisco, F West
Coast, F West Pennsylvania, A Wyoming.
California: F South Pacific Ocean, F Southwest Pacific Ocean.
Florida: F Arkansas, A Dallas, F Deep South, F East Coast, A Georgia, F
Lesser Antilles, A Louisiana, A Missouri, F North Carolina, A New
Jersey, A Tennessee, A Washington DC.
NewYork: A Philadelphia.
Quebec: F Massachusetts Bay.
Cuba: A Venezuela.
Mexico: A Arizona, A Bogota, A Chihuahua, A Coahuila, F Coast of Mexico, F
Galapagos, F Gulf of California, F Gulf of Campeche, F Hawaii, A San
Antonio, A Tabasco, F Yucatan.

Ownership of supply centers:

BC: Anchorage, Calgary, Chicago, Greenland, Los Angeles, Manitoba,
Massachussets, Michigan, Milwaukee, Minneapolis, Montreal, New York
City, Ohio, Ontario, Oregon, Quebec City, San Diego, San Francisco,
Ungava, Vancouver, Washington.
California: Colorado, Kansas.
Florida: Dallas, Dominican Republic, Georgia, Havana, Holquin, Houston,
Jacksonville, Kingston, Louisiana, Miami, Missouri, North Carolina,
New Jersey, Tampa, Tennessee, Washington DC.
NewYork: Philadelphia.
Quebec: Nova Scotia.
Cuba: Venezuela.
Mexico: Arizona, Bogota, Cali, Chihuahua, Durango, Guadalajara, Guatemala,
Hawaii, Lima, Mexico City, Nicaragua, Nuevo Leon, Panama, San
Antonio, Veracruz, Yucatan.


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DC138 Winter Of Our Discontent - Winter 2012 - Fee... - test_gm   (Sep 13, 2007, 12:00 am)
Gents,

This discussion is moot and will be ceased as of this email.

You all know my house rules, folks. Draw votes are held confidential to the GM. Period. If a person is voting against a proposed draw, it is entirely THEIR choice.

NO player should be shamed or be made to feel guilty if they wish the game to continue. I'm surprised this is coming from some of you.

We play on. Put on your granny panties and get to it. =)

Trout

On Mon, Aug 4, 2008 at 3:53 PM, Michael Sims <mike(at)southwall.com ([email]mike(at)southwall.com[/email])> wrote:

And I, could make a mental note not to trust Rob in an alliance!





Agreed...

Especially on the pick a new map and beat each other... I would be up for shake the positions and run on this one again.

rob


----- Original Message ----
From: Andrew Tanner <damienthryn(at)gmail.com ([email]damienthryn(at)gmail.com[/email])>
To: Jason K <githraine(at)yahoo.com ([email]githraine(at)yahoo.com[/email])>
Cc: Rob Ackerley <rob_ackerley(at)yahoo.ca ([email]rob_ackerley(at)yahoo.ca[/email])>; Former Trout <former.trout(at)gmail.com ([email]former.trout(at)gmail.com[/email])>; dc138 <DC138(at)diplomaticcorp.com ([email]DC138(at)diplomaticcorp.com[/email])>; Andrew Clarke <a_c_2bcool(at)hotmail.com ([email]a_c_2bcool(at)hotmail.com[/email])>; Bruce Quinn <coebq(at)yahoo.com ([email]coebq(at)yahoo.com[/email])>; Bruce Ray <raybrucea(at)aol.com ([email]raybrucea(at)aol.com[/email])>; Mike Sims <mike(at)southwall.com ([email]mike(at)southwall.com[/email])>; Nathan Deily <ndeily(at)yahoo.com ([email]ndeily(at)yahoo.com[/email])>; Samuel Smith <agenbite.lee(at)gmail.com ([email]agenbite.lee(at)gmail.com[/email])>; Steve Lytton <stevelytton(at)hotmail.com ([email]stevelytton(at)hotmail.com[/email])>
Sent: Monday, August 4, 2008 2:44:56 PM
Subject: Re: DC138 Winter Of Our Discontent - Winter 2012 - Feed My Frankenstein

Thirded and fourthed. Any chance we can take a binding, public vote to determine if we can take another binding, public vote on end of game proposals? That way we'd all be voting for a temporary change in the rules, not forced into it (assuming someone out there must be at this point.)

Or is someone just perpetually forgetting to vote on the EGPs?

If someone is angling for revenge or stirring the pot - consider this. I, the most likely candidate to be sneakily juggernauting for a solo, am HELPING my rivals move north. I informed them about a one army build so I've a reserve/hole filler. Its doubtful that I'd do that if I was angling for a solo. On their part - Lee and Bruce are not moving towards one another, and they waived all their builds this year. If they were looking for a fight, they'd have gone for the whole hog and I'd be sweating.

So bottom line - the game is a three way draw. Even if we play it out for the next two-three turns until (theoretically) all the smaller powers are gone and the three of us are all thats left the end result will be the same. Lets just declare victory and leave Mesopotamia...err pick a new map to beat one another up onSmile

On Mon, Aug 4, 2008 at 3:49 AM, Jason K <githraine(at)yahoo.com ([email]githraine(at)yahoo.com[/email])> wrote:
[quote:26a122eb5d] I second the motion



----- Original Message ----
From: Rob Ackerley <rob_ackerley(at)yahoo.ca ([email]rob_ackerley(at)yahoo.ca[/email])>
To: Former Trout <former.trout(at)gmail.com ([email]former.trout(at)gmail.com[/email])>; dc138 <DC138(at)diplomaticcorp.com ([email]DC138(at)diplomaticcorp.com[/email])>
Cc: Andrew Clarke <a_c_2bcool(at)hotmail.com ([email]a_c_2bcool(at)hotmail.com[/email])>; Andrew Tanner <damienthryn(at)gmail.com ([email]damienthryn(at)gmail.com[/email])>; Bruce Quinn <coebq(at)yahoo.com ([email]coebq(at)yahoo.com[/email])>; Bruce Ray <raybrucea(at)aol.com ([email]raybrucea(at)aol.com[/email])>; Jason K <Githraine(at)yahoo.com ([email]Githraine(at)yahoo.com[/email])>; Mike Sims <mike(at)southwall.com ([email]mike(at)southwall.com[/email])>; Nathan Deily <ndeily(at)yahoo.com ([email]ndeily(at)yahoo.com[/email])>; Samuel Smith <agenbite.lee(at)gmail.com ([email]agenbite.lee(at)gmail.com[/email])>; Steve Lytton <stevelytton(at)hotmail.com ([email]stevelytton(at)hotmail.com[/email])>
Sent: Monday, August 4, 2008 2:28:58 AM
Subject: Re: DC138 Winter Of Our Discontent - Winter 2012 - Feed My Frankenstein


I demand to know the name of the person(s) whom are prolonging this exercise and a pretty damn good justification for it. We have been voting every turn for the past 3 game years and for some reason that I think we all deserve to know what the point is. Obviously one of the largers feel they can solo or one of the smallers is being vendictive to repay one of the largers...

I could care less but I think we deserve to know what this person(s) feels would be an adequate outcome to this game.


----- Original Message ----
From: Former Trout <former.trout(at)gmail.com ([email]former.trout(at)gmail.com[/email])>
To: dc138 <DC138(at)diplomaticcorp.com ([email]DC138(at)diplomaticcorp.com[/email])>
Cc: Andrew Clarke <a_c_2bcool(at)hotmail.com ([email]a_c_2bcool(at)hotmail.com[/email])>; Andrew Tanner <damienthryn(at)gmail.com ([email]damienthryn(at)gmail.com[/email])>; Bruce Quinn <coebq(at)yahoo.com ([email]coebq(at)yahoo.com[/email])>; Bruce Ray <raybrucea(at)aol.com ([email]raybrucea(at)aol.com[/email])>; Jason K <Githraine(at)yahoo.com ([email]Githraine(at)yahoo.com[/email])>; Mike Sims <mike(at)southwall.com ([email]mike(at)southwall.com[/email])>; Nathan Deily <ndeily(at)yahoo.com ([email]ndeily(at)yahoo.com[/email])>; Rob Ackerley <rob_ackerley(at)yahoo.ca ([email]rob_ackerley(at)yahoo.ca[/email])>; Samuel Smith <agenbite.lee(at)gmail.com ([email]agenbite.lee(at)gmail.com[/email])>; Steve Lytton <stevelytton(at)hotmail.com ([email]stevelytton(at)hotmail.com[/email])>
Sent: Sunday, August 3, 2008 11:56:35 PM
Subject: DC138 Winter Of Our Discontent - Winter 2012 - Feed My Frankenstein

More wisdom from the book of Suess:

Don't cry because it's over. Smile because it happened.

Both draw proposals meet defeat and we proceed with the Winter adjustments. However, there's a lot of waiving going on - the only build being an army in Calgary. Meanwhile, California disbands all eight mainland armies - leaving only the southern fleets... All said and done - rather an odd Winter turn.

We move on with the Spring of 2013. Order deadline will be set for Friday, August 8th (11:59 PM GMT). Cheers folks!

Trout


Adjustment orders for Winter of 2012. (DC138 12 WIN)

BC: Build A Calgary.
BC: Build waived.
BC: Build waived.

California: Remove A Utah.
California: Remove A Colorado.
California: Remove A Kansas.
California: Remove A New Mexico.
California: Remove A West Texas.
California: Remove A Oklahoma.
California: Remove A Kentucky.
California: Remove A Virginia.

Florida: Build waived.
Florida: Build waived.
Florida: Build waived.

Mexico: Build waived.
Mexico: Build waived.
Mexico: Build waived.

Unit locations:

BC: A Calgary, A Chicago, F Greenland, A Iowa, F Cape May, A Milwaukee,
A Nebraska, A Nevada, F North Pacific Ocean, F New York City, F New
York State, A Ohio, F Oregon, F San Diego, A San Francisco, F West
Coast, F West Pennsylvania, A Wyoming.
California: F South Pacific Ocean, F Southwest Pacific Ocean.
Florida: F Arkansas, A Dallas, F Deep South, F East Coast, A Georgia, F
Lesser Antilles, A Louisiana, A Missouri, F North Carolina, A New
Jersey, A Tennessee, A Washington DC.
NewYork: A Philadelphia.
Quebec: F Massachusetts Bay.
Cuba: A Venezuela.
Mexico: A Arizona, A Bogota, A Chihuahua, A Coahuila, F Coast of Mexico, F
Galapagos, F Gulf of California, F Gulf of Campeche, F Hawaii, A San
Antonio, A Tabasco, F Yucatan.

Ownership of supply centers:

BC: Anchorage, Calgary, Chicago, Greenland, Los Angeles, Manitoba,
Massachussets, Michigan, Milwaukee, Minneapolis, Montreal, New York
City, Ohio, Ontario, Oregon, Quebec City, San Diego, San Francisco,
Ungava, Vancouver, Washington.
California: Colorado, Kansas.
Florida: Dallas, Dominican Republic, Georgia, Havana, Holquin, Houston,
Jacksonville, Kingston, Louisiana, Miami, Missouri, North Carolina,
New Jersey, Tampa, Tennessee, Washington DC.
NewYork: Philadelphia.
Quebec: Nova Scotia.
Cuba: Venezuela.
Mexico: Arizona, Bogota, Cali, Chihuahua, Durango, Guadalajara, Guatemala,
Hawaii, Lima, Mexico City, Nicaragua, Nuevo Leon, Panama, San
Antonio, Veracruz, Yucatan.


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DC138 WOOD - Spring 2013 Deadline Reminder - test_gm   (Sep 13, 2007, 12:00 am)
Heya WOODers,

Just sending out a gentle deadline reminder after my not-so-gentle blast earlier this week. Your Spring 2013 orders and end-game proposal votes be due in just over 19.5 hours.

Cheers!

Trout

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