Thirded and fourthed. Any chance we can take a binding, public vote to determine if we can take another binding, public vote on end of game proposals? That way we'd all be voting for a temporary change in the rules, not forced into it (assuming someone out there must be at this point.)

Or is someone just perpetually forgetting to vote on the EGPs?

If someone is angling for revenge or stirring the pot - consider this. I, the most likely candidate to be sneakily juggernauting for a solo, am HELPING my rivals move north. I informed them about a one army build so I've a reserve/hole filler. Its doubtful that I'd do that if I was angling for a solo. On their part - Lee and Bruce are not moving towards one another, and they waived all their builds this year. If they were looking for a fight, they'd have gone for the whole hog and I'd be sweating.

So bottom line - the game is a three way draw. Even if we play it out for the next two-three turns until (theoretically) all the smaller powers are gone and the three of us are all thats left the end result will be the same. Lets just declare victory and leave Mesopotamia...err pick a new map to beat one another up on

On Mon, Aug 4, 2008 at 3:49 AM, Jason K <githraine(at)yahoo.com ([email]githraine(at)yahoo.com[/email])> wrote:

I second the motion



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Sent: Monday, August 4, 2008 2:28:58 AM
Subject: Re: DC138 Winter Of Our Discontent - Winter 2012 - Feed My Frankenstein


I demand to know the name of the person(s) whom are prolonging this exercise and a pretty damn good justification for it. We have been voting every turn for the past 3 game years and for some reason that I think we all deserve to know what the point is. Obviously one of the largers feel they can solo or one of the smallers is being vendictive to repay one of the largers...

I could care less but I think we deserve to know what this person(s) feels would be an adequate outcome to this game.


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To: dc138 <DC138(at)diplomaticcorp.com ([email]DC138(at)diplomaticcorp.com[/email])>
Cc: Andrew Clarke <a_c_2bcool(at)hotmail.com ([email]a_c_2bcool(at)hotmail.com[/email])>; Andrew Tanner <damienthryn(at)gmail.com ([email]damienthryn(at)gmail.com[/email])>; Bruce Quinn <coebq(at)yahoo.com ([email]coebq(at)yahoo.com[/email])>; Bruce Ray <raybrucea(at)aol.com ([email]raybrucea(at)aol.com[/email])>; Jason K <Githraine(at)yahoo.com ([email]Githraine(at)yahoo.com[/email])>; Mike Sims <mike(at)southwall.com ([email]mike(at)southwall.com[/email])>; Nathan Deily <ndeily(at)yahoo.com ([email]ndeily(at)yahoo.com[/email])>; Rob Ackerley <rob_ackerley(at)yahoo.ca ([email]rob_ackerley(at)yahoo.ca[/email])>; Samuel Smith <agenbite.lee(at)gmail.com ([email]agenbite.lee(at)gmail.com[/email])>; Steve Lytton <stevelytton(at)hotmail.com ([email]stevelytton(at)hotmail.com[/email])>
Sent: Sunday, August 3, 2008 11:56:35 PM
Subject: DC138 Winter Of Our Discontent - Winter 2012 - Feed My Frankenstein

More wisdom from the book of Suess:

Don't cry because it's over. Smile because it happened.

Both draw proposals meet defeat and we proceed with the Winter adjustments. However, there's a lot of waiving going on - the only build being an army in Calgary. Meanwhile, California disbands all eight mainland armies - leaving only the southern fleets... All said and done - rather an odd Winter turn.

We move on with the Spring of 2013. Order deadline will be set for Friday, August 8th (11:59 PM GMT). Cheers folks!

Trout


Adjustment orders for Winter of 2012. (DC138 12 WIN)

BC: Build A Calgary.
BC: Build waived.
BC: Build waived.

California: Remove A Utah.
California: Remove A Colorado.
California: Remove A Kansas.
California: Remove A New Mexico.
California: Remove A West Texas.
California: Remove A Oklahoma.
California: Remove A Kentucky.
California: Remove A Virginia.

Florida: Build waived.
Florida: Build waived.
Florida: Build waived.

Mexico: Build waived.
Mexico: Build waived.
Mexico: Build waived.

Unit locations:

BC: A Calgary, A Chicago, F Greenland, A Iowa, F Cape May, A Milwaukee,
A Nebraska, A Nevada, F North Pacific Ocean, F New York City, F New
York State, A Ohio, F Oregon, F San Diego, A San Francisco, F West
Coast, F West Pennsylvania, A Wyoming.
California: F South Pacific Ocean, F Southwest Pacific Ocean.
Florida: F Arkansas, A Dallas, F Deep South, F East Coast, A Georgia, F
Lesser Antilles, A Louisiana, A Missouri, F North Carolina, A New
Jersey, A Tennessee, A Washington DC.
NewYork: A Philadelphia.
Quebec: F Massachusetts Bay.
Cuba: A Venezuela.
Mexico: A Arizona, A Bogota, A Chihuahua, A Coahuila, F Coast of Mexico, F
Galapagos, F Gulf of California, F Gulf of Campeche, F Hawaii, A San
Antonio, A Tabasco, F Yucatan.

Ownership of supply centers:

BC: Anchorage, Calgary, Chicago, Greenland, Los Angeles, Manitoba,
Massachussets, Michigan, Milwaukee, Minneapolis, Montreal, New York
City, Ohio, Ontario, Oregon, Quebec City, San Diego, San Francisco,
Ungava, Vancouver, Washington.
California: Colorado, Kansas.
Florida: Dallas, Dominican Republic, Georgia, Havana, Holquin, Houston,
Jacksonville, Kingston, Louisiana, Miami, Missouri, North Carolina,
New Jersey, Tampa, Tennessee, Washington DC.
NewYork: Philadelphia.
Quebec: Nova Scotia.
Cuba: Venezuela.
Mexico: Arizona, Bogota, Cali, Chihuahua, Durango, Guadalajara, Guatemala,
Hawaii, Lima, Mexico City, Nicaragua, Nuevo Leon, Panama, San
Antonio, Veracruz, Yucatan.


NEXT DEADLINE: SPRING 2013 ORDERS DUE FRIDAY, AUGUST 8TH (11:59 PM GMT)!!





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