| DC138 Spring 05 Deadline Reminder - test_gm (Sep 13, 2007, 12:00 am) |
Heya folks,
Just banging the gong here that Spring 05 falls in just under 21 hours. I am still missing several sets of orders, so please double-check for confirmations and ensure your sets are in.
Cheers!
Trout[Reply] |
| DC138 - Spring 05 Extension - test_gm (Sep 13, 2007, 12:00 am) |
Hiya folks,
Had an extension request today that I unfortunately did not have the time to broadcast. Spring 05 order deadline will be revised for 48 hours later, on Friday, February 29th (11:59 PM GMT).
Cheers all,
Trout[Reply] |
| DC138 Winter Of Our Discontent - Spring 2005 - A L... - test_gm (Sep 13, 2007, 12:00 am) |
The eternal sage, master of fortune cookies, tells us: Do not follow the instructions of this fortune
Huh?
In any case, few instructions appear to be followed in the Spring, as a clinical turn results from all of your orders. Cuba and Mexico combine to destroy the sole remaining Peruvian army, Quebec gets some back in Nova Scotia and for once, little happens in the middle of the map. Sole retreat was the automatic disband from Peru in Cali, with nowhere to fall back to it was erased from the map.
Deadline for Fall 2005 orders will be set for just under a weeks time - for Thursday, March 6th (11:59 PM GMT). Let me know if you spot any errors or have any questions.
Cheers!
Trout
DC-138 A Diplomaticcorp Game Fall of the American Empire 4 Variant Game Started:
Current Turn: Spring 2005
Next Deadline: Fall 2005 Orders Thursday, March 6th (11:59 PM GMT)
The Rowdy Cast
British Columbia Andrew Tanner damienthryn AT gmail DOT com California Bruce Ray Raybrucea AT aol DOT com Cuba Jason K. Githraine AT yahoo DOT com Florida Lee Moore agenbite DOT lee AT gmail DOT com Heartland Andy Ski a_c_2bcool AT hotmail DOT com Mexico Bruce Quinn coebq AT yahoo DOT com New York Rob Ackerley rob_ackerley AT yahoo DOT ca Peru Alex Schmidt wecanworkthisout AT yahoo DOT com Quebec Mike Sims mike AT southwall DOT com Texas Nathan Deily nedily AT yahoo DOT com
Humble GM: Former Trout former DOT trout AT gmail DOT com
CURRENT SEASON:
SPRING 2005 PRESS:
Andrew and Ray sitting in a tree
D-M-Z-z-i-n-g
First comes rape, then comes pillage
Then comes Andrew in Greenwich Village
SPRING 2005 ORDERS:
CUBA:
A Antioquia - Bogota [BOUNCE with PAN 1:1] A Havana Hold OK F Panama - Cali(nc) OK F West Caribbean Sea - East Caribbean Sea OK
FLORIDA:
A DoS to Ark [BOUNCE with OKL 2:2] A Ten supports A DoS to Ark OK A Lou supports A in Hou OK A Hou supports A in Lou OK A Jac to Geo OK A Tam to FPa OK F Yuc to GoH OK F SoY to WCS OK F ApB to SoF OK F Dom to LeS OK A Hol to Cam OK
HEARTLAND:
A Chicago Supports A Milwaukee OK A Milwaukee Supports A Chicago OK A Missouri Hold OK A Montreal Supports A Ungava - Quebec City [CUT by ONT]
MEXICO:
A Dur to Pot OK A NLe holds OK A Ver to Tab OK F CoM holds OK F Gut holds OK A CRi to Nic OK F GoG to GoP OK F Ecu S F Pan to Cal(nc) OK
NEW YORK:
A Kentucky Supports A Missouri OK F Massachusetts Bay Supports F Mid Atlantic Ocean - North Atlantic Ocean OK F Mid Atlantic Ocean - North Atlantic Ocean OK A Michigan - Upper Peninsula OK F Nova Scotia - Gulf of St-Lawrence OK A Ohio - Indiana OK A Ontario - Montreal [BOUNCE with MON 1:1] A Philadelphia - New York State OK A Vermont - Beauce OK
PERU:
A Cali - Bogota [BOUNCE with ANT 1:1; DISBANDED by PAN 2:1] F Culf of Fonseca - Gulf of Guayaquil OK
QUEBEC:
F NAT-NSc OK F NBr S NAT-NSc OK
BRITISH COLUMBIA:
F Anc - ARO OK F BaB - GoL OK F MPO H OK A Cgy - Sas OK A Min - Won OK A Man - Non OK A Iow - Min OK A Ung - Que OK
CALIFORNIA:
Baja H OK Chihuahua - West Texas OK San Diego - Arizona OK San Francisco - Nevada OK Los Angeles - Gulf of Santa Catalina OK Colorado - Nebraska OK Kansas - Oklahoma [BOUNCE with OKL 1:1] Oklahoma - Arkansas [BOUNCE with DSO 2:2] Dallas s Oklahoma - Arkansas OK San Antonio s Dallas OK
SUMMER 2005 RETREATS:
Peruvian A Cali is Automatically Disbanded
UNIT / SUPPLY CENTER BREAKDOWN
------------------------------
CUBA:
4 Supply Centers - Hav, Kin, Ven, Pan
2 Armies - Hav, Ant
2 Fleets - Cal(nc), Ecs
FLORIDA:
11 Supply Centers - Jac, Tam, Mia, Ten, Geo, Nca,
Lou, Hou, Hol, Dom, Yuc
7 Armies - Ten, Hou, Dso, Lou, Cam, Geo, Fpa
4 Fleets - Les, Goh, Wcs, Sof
HEARTLAND:
4 Supply Centers - Mil, Mis, Chi, Mon
4 Armies - Chi, Mon, Mis, Mil
0 Fleets -
MEXICO:
8 Supply Centers - Gua, Mex, Ver, Gut, Dur, Nle,
Nic, Lim
4 Armies - Nic, Pot, Nle, Tab
4 Fleets - Com, Ecu, Gop, Gut(sc)
NEW YORK:
9 Supply Centers - Nyc, Nje, Phi, Mas, Ohi, Wdc,
Mic, Ont, Nsc
6 Armies - Bea, Upe, Ken, Ont, Ind, Nys
3 Fleets - Mab, Gsl, Nao
PERU:
2 Supply Centers - Cal, Bog
0 Armies -
1 Fleet - Gog
QUEBEC:
2 Supply Centers - Que, Gre
0 Armies -
2 Fleets - Nsc, Nbr(nc)
BRITISH COLUMBIA:
8 Supply Centers - Anc, Van, Cgy, Was, Haw,
Man, Min, Ung
5 Armies - Min, Que, Non, Won, Sas
3 Fleets - Mpo, Sol, Aro
CALIFORNIA:
10 Supply Centers - Sfr, Los, Sdi, Ore, Ari, Col,
Chh, Kan, San, Dal
8 Armies - Okl, Dal, Wte, San, Kan, Neb, Ari, Nev
2 Fleets - Baj, Gsc
TEXAS - ELIMINATED 2004
NEXT DEADLINE: FALL 2005 ORDERS DUE THURSDAY, MARCH 6TH (11:59 PM GMT)!![Reply] |
| DC138 WOOD - Fall 05 Deadline Reminder - test_gm (Sep 13, 2007, 12:00 am) |
Heya folks,
Apologies about not getting this out last night. It was, uhm, a wild evening. Anyways, deadline for Fall 05 orders falls in just over 9.5 hours. I do not currently have all sets in hand, so please double-check for confirmations for me.
Cheers!
Trout[Reply] |
| DC138 Winter Of Our Discontent - Fall 1905 - Stude... - test_gm (Sep 13, 2007, 12:00 am) |
You are filled with life's most precious treasure ... Hope!
-----------------------------------------
So says this season's secret fortune. Unfortunately, the springs of hope run dry for Peru as the last two southern centers are gobbled by Cuba. While in turn, the Cuban home centers are snapped up by Florida. Meanwhile, a titanic east / west struggle looms...
One retreat to speak of after the Fall moves... The New York army in Ontario was dislodged but had only Michigan to fall back to so I took the liberty... Rob, if OTB is preferred then please just let me know.
Also, I'd like to thank Alex for helming the Peru forces to the very bitter end. We'll see you in the next one, brother...
Drop me a line if you spot any errors... Winter 05 adjustments will be due Saturday, March 8th (11:59 PM GMT).
Cheers!
Trout
DC-138 A Diplomaticcorp Game Fall of the American Empire 4 Variant Game Started:
Current Turn: Fall 2005
Next Deadline: Winter 2005 Adjustments Saturday, March 8th (11:59 PM GMT)
The Rowdy Cast
British Columbia Andrew Tanner damienthryn AT gmail DOT com California Bruce Ray Raybrucea AT aol DOT com Cuba Jason K. Githraine AT yahoo DOT com Florida Lee Moore agenbite DOT lee AT gmail DOT com Heartland Andy Ski a_c_2bcool AT hotmail DOT com Mexico Bruce Quinn coebq AT yahoo DOT com New York Rob Ackerley rob_ackerley AT yahoo DOT ca Peru Alex Schmidt wecanworkthisout AT yahoo DOT com Quebec Mike Sims mike AT southwall DOT com Texas Nathan Deily nedily AT yahoo DOT com
Humble GM: Former Trout former DOT trout AT gmail DOT com
CURRENT SEASON:
FALL 2005 BC PRESS:
BC - All:
"So I said who gives a damn that all the jobs are gone,
I'm gonna be a PIRATE on the river Saskatchewan!"
BC - NY: Isn't Greenwich Village somewhere in your territory? So far from home, so many tourists...think I'll stay on the west coast, thank you kindly. But I'm sure Florida would be happy to land some troops in the vicinity...
FALL 2005 ORDERS:
CALIFORNIA:
Gulf of Santa Catalina - North Pacific OK Baja H OK Nevada - Arizona OK Arizona - New Mexico OK Kansas - Missouri [BOUNCE with MIS 3:3] Nebraska s Kansas - Missouri OK Oklahoma s Kansas - Missouri OK Dallas - Arkansas [DEFEATED by DSO 2:1] San Antonio S West Texas - Dallas OK West Texas - Dallas [BOUNCE with DAL 1:1]
CUBA:
A Antioquia - Bogota OK F Cali(nc) Hold OK F East Caribbean Sea - Venezuela [BOUNCE with LES 1:1] A Havana Hold [DISBANDED by CAM 2:1]
FLORIDA:
A Hou holds OK A Lou supports A Hou holding OK A Dos to Ark OK A Ten supports A Dos to Ark OK A Geo supports A Ten OK A FPa to Dos OK A Car to Hav OK F SoF supports A Car to Hav OK F WCS to Kin OK F Les to Ven [BOUNCE with ECS 1:1] F GoH to WCS OK
HEARTLAND:
A Chicago Supports A Missouri OK A Milwaukee - Upper Peninsula [BOUNCE with UPE 1:1] A Missouri Supports A Chicago [CUT by KAN] A Montreal - Ontario OK
MEXICO:
A NLe holds OK A Pot holds OK F CoM to GoF OK A Tab to Yuc OK A Nic Holds OK F GoP to Panama OK F Ecu to Lima OK F Gut holds OK
NEW YORK:
A Beauce Supports A Montreal VOID (Unit Ordered To Move) F Gulf of St-Lawrence - New Brunswick(nc) [BOUNCE with NBR 1:1] A Indiana Supports A Chicago OK A Kentucky Supports A Missouri OK F Massachusetts Bay Supports F North Atlantic Ocean - Nova Scotia OK F North Atlantic Ocean - Nova Scotia [BOUNCE with NSC 2:2] A New York State Supports A Ontario OK A Ontario Supports A Beauce [DISLODGED by MON 3:2] A Upper Peninsula Supports A Ontario [CUT by MIL]
PERU:
F Gog HOLD OK
QUEBEC:
F Nbr/nc-GSL [BOUNCE with GSL 1:1] F NSc-NAO [BOUNCE with NAO 2:2]
BRITISH COLUMBIA:
F ARO - Gre OK F SOL s (Quebec) F Nsc - NAO OK F MPO H OK A Que - Mon OK A Non s (HL) A Mon - Ont OK A Won s A (HL)Mon - Ont OK A Min - s (HL) A Mil OK A Sas - Man OK
EARLY WINTER 2005 RETREATS:
Cuban A Havana is Automatically Disbanded
New York A Ontario is Auto-retreated to Mic
WINTER 2005 ADJUSTMENTS:
California: No Adjustments Cuba: No Adjustments Florida: BUILDS 1 Heartland: No Adjustments Mexico: BUILDS 2 New York: DISBANDS 2 Peru: DISBANDS 1 Quebec: No Adjustments British Columbia: BUILDS 2
UNIT / SUPPLY CENTER BREAKDOWN
------------------------------
CALIFORNIA:
10 Supply Centers - Sfr, Los, Sdi, Ore, Ari, Col,
Chh, Kan, San, Dal
8 Armies - Okl, Dal, Wte, San, Kan, Neb, Nme, Ari
2 Fleets - Baj, Npo
CUBA:
3 Supply Centers - Ven, Cal, Bog
1 Army - Bog
2 Fleets - Cal(nc), Ecs
FLORIDA: BUILDS 1
12 Supply Centers - Jac, Tam, Mia, Ten, Geo, Nca,
Lou, Hou, Hol, Dom, Hav, Kin
7 Armies - Ten, Hou, Ark, Lou, Hav, Geo, Dso
4 Fleets - Les, Wcs, Kin, Sof
HEARTLAND:
4 Supply Centers - Mil, Mis, Chi, Ont
4 Armies - Chi, Ont, Mis, Mil
0 Fleets -
MEXICO: BUILDS 2
10 Supply Centers - Gua, Mex, Ver, Gut, Dur, Nle,
Nic, Lim, Pan, Yuc
4 Armies - Nic, Pot, Nle, Yuc
4 Fleets - Gof, Lim, Pan, Gut(sc)
NEW YORK: DISBANDS 2
7 Supply Centers - Nyc, Nje, Phi, Mas, Ohi, Wdc,
Mic
6 Armies - Bea, Upe, Ken, Mic, Ind, Nys
3 Fleets - Mab, Gsl, Nao
PERU: DISBANDS 1
0 Supply Centers -
0 Armies -
1 Fleet - Gog
QUEBEC:
2 Supply Centers - Que, Nsc
0 Armies -
2 Fleets - Nsc, Nbr(nc)
BRITISH COLUMBIA: BUILDS 2
10 Supply Centers - Anc, Van, Cgy, Was, Haw,
Man, Min, Ung, Gre, Mon
5 Armies - Min, Mon, Non, Won, Man
3 Fleets - Mpo, Sol, Gre
TEXAS - ELIMINATED 2004
NEXT DEADLINE: WINTER 2005 ADJUSTMENTS DUE SATURDAY, MARCH 8TH (11:59 PM GMT)!![Reply] |
| DC138 Winter Of Our Discontent - Fall 1905 - Stude... - test_gm (Sep 13, 2007, 12:00 am) |
Thanks for the game, guys. I hope to meet y'all again sometime!
EOG will be left at the conclusion of this one.
----- Original Message ----
From: Former Trout <former.trout(at)gmail.com>
To: dc138 <DC138(at)diplomaticcorp.com>
Cc: Alexander Schmidt <wecanworkthisout(at)yahoo.com>; Andrew Clarke <a_c_2bcool(at)hotmail.com>; Andrew Tanner <damienthryn(at)gmail.com>; Bruce Quinn <coebq(at)yahoo.com>; Bruce Ray <raybrucea(at)aol.com>; Jason K <Githraine(at)yahoo.com>; Mike Sims <mike(at)southwall.com>; Nathan Deily <ndeily(at)yahoo.com>; Rob Ackerley <rob_ackerley(at)yahoo.ca>; Samuel Smith <agenbite.lee(at)gmail.com>; Steve Lytton <stevelytton(at)hotmail.com>
Sent: Thursday, March 6, 2008 7:53:23 PM
Subject: DC138 Winter Of Our Discontent - Fall 1905 - Student Visas
You are filled with life's most precious treasure ... Hope!
-----------------------------------------
So says this season's secret fortune. Unfortunately, the springs of hope run dry for Peru as the last two southern centers are gobbled by Cuba. While in turn, the Cuban home centers are snapped up by Florida. Meanwhile, a titanic east / west struggle looms...
One retreat to speak of after the Fall moves... The New York army in Ontario was dislodged but had only Michigan to fall back to so I took the liberty... Rob, if OTB is preferred then please just let me know.
Also, I'd like to thank Alex for helming the Peru forces to the very bitter end. We'll see you in the next one, brother...
Drop me a line if you spot any errors... Winter 05 adjustments will be due Saturday, March 8th (11:59 PM GMT).
Cheers!
Trout
DC-138 A Diplomaticcorp Game Fall of the American Empire 4 Variant Game Started:
Current Turn: Fall 2005
Next Deadline: Winter 2005 Adjustments Saturday, March 8th (11:59 PM GMT)
The Rowdy Cast
British Columbia Andrew Tanner damienthryn AT gmail DOT com California Bruce Ray Raybrucea AT aol DOT com Cuba Jason K. Githraine AT yahoo DOT com Florida Lee Moore agenbite DOT lee AT gmail DOT com Heartland Andy Ski a_c_2bcool AT hotmail DOT com Mexico Bruce Quinn coebq AT yahoo DOT com New York Rob Ackerley rob_ackerley AT yahoo DOT ca Peru Alex Schmidt wecanworkthisout AT yahoo DOT com Quebec Mike Sims mike AT southwall DOT com Texas Nathan Deily nedily AT yahoo DOT com
Humble GM: Former Trout former DOT trout AT gmail DOT com
CURRENT SEASON:
FALL 2005 BC PRESS:
BC - All:
"So I said who gives a damn that all the jobs are gone,
I'm gonna be a PIRATE on the river Saskatchewan!"
BC - NY: Isn't Greenwich Village somewhere in your territory? So far from home, so many tourists...think I'll stay on the west coast, thank you kindly. But I'm sure Florida would be happy to land some troops in the vicinity...
FALL 2005 ORDERS:
CALIFORNIA:
Gulf of Santa Catalina - North Pacific OK Baja H OK Nevada - Arizona OK Arizona - New Mexico OK Kansas - Missouri [BOUNCE with MIS 3:3] Nebraska s Kansas - Missouri OK Oklahoma s Kansas - Missouri OK Dallas - Arkansas [DEFEATED by DSO 2:1] San Antonio S West Texas - Dallas OK West Texas - Dallas [BOUNCE with DAL 1:1]
CUBA:
A Antioquia - Bogota OK F Cali(nc) Hold OK F East Caribbean Sea - Venezuela [BOUNCE with LES 1:1] A Havana Hold [DISBANDED by CAM 2:1]
FLORIDA:
A Hou holds OK A Lou supports A Hou holding OK A Dos to Ark OK A Ten supports A Dos to Ark OK A Geo supports A Ten OK A FPa to Dos OK A Car to Hav OK F SoF supports A Car to Hav OK F WCS to Kin OK F Les to Ven [BOUNCE with ECS 1:1] F GoH to WCS OK
HEARTLAND:
A Chicago Supports A Missouri OK A Milwaukee - Upper Peninsula [BOUNCE with UPE 1:1] A Missouri Supports A Chicago [CUT by KAN] A Montreal - Ontario OK
MEXICO:
A NLe holds OK A Pot holds OK F CoM to GoF OK A Tab to Yuc OK A Nic Holds OK F GoP to Panama OK F Ecu to Lima OK F Gut holds OK
NEW YORK:
A Beauce Supports A Montreal VOID (Unit Ordered To Move) F Gulf of St-Lawrence - New Brunswick(nc) [BOUNCE with NBR 1:1] A Indiana Supports A Chicago OK A Kentucky Supports A Missouri OK F Massachusetts Bay Supports F North Atlantic Ocean - Nova Scotia OK F North Atlantic Ocean - Nova Scotia [BOUNCE with NSC 2:2] A New York State Supports A Ontario OK A Ontario Supports A Beauce [DISLODGED by MON 3:2] A Upper Peninsula Supports A Ontario [CUT by MIL]
PERU:
F Gog HOLD OK
QUEBEC:
F Nbr/nc-GSL [BOUNCE with GSL 1:1] F NSc-NAO [BOUNCE with NAO 2:2]
BRITISH COLUMBIA:
F ARO - Gre OK F SOL s (Quebec) F Nsc - NAO OK F MPO H OK A Que - Mon OK A Non s (HL) A Mon - Ont OK A Won s A (HL)Mon - Ont OK A Min - s (HL) A Mil OK A Sas - Man OK
EARLY WINTER 2005 RETREATS:
Cuban A Havana is Automatically Disbanded
New York A Ontario is Auto-retreated to Mic
WINTER 2005 ADJUSTMENTS:
California: No Adjustments Cuba: No Adjustments Florida: BUILDS 1 Heartland: No Adjustments Mexico: BUILDS 2 New York: DISBANDS 2 Peru: DISBANDS 1 Quebec: No Adjustments British Columbia: BUILDS 2
UNIT / SUPPLY CENTER BREAKDOWN
------------------------------
CALIFORNIA:
10 Supply Centers - Sfr, Los, Sdi, Ore, Ari, Col,
Chh, Kan, San, Dal
8 Armies - Okl, Dal, Wte, San, Kan, Neb, Nme, Ari
2 Fleets - Baj, Npo
CUBA:
3 Supply Centers - Ven, Cal, Bog
1 Army - Bog
2 Fleets - Cal(nc), Ecs
FLORIDA: BUILDS 1
12 Supply Centers - Jac, Tam, Mia, Ten, Geo, Nca,
Lou, Hou, Hol, Dom, Hav, Kin
7 Armies - Ten, Hou, Ark, Lou, Hav, Geo, Dso
4 Fleets - Les, Wcs, Kin, Sof
HEARTLAND:
4 Supply Centers - Mil, Mis, Chi, Ont
4 Armies - Chi, Ont, Mis, Mil
0 Fleets -
MEXICO: BUILDS 2
10 Supply Centers - Gua, Mex, Ver, Gut, Dur, Nle,
Nic, Lim, Pan, Yuc
4 Armies - Nic, Pot, Nle, Yuc
4 Fleets - Gof, Lim, Pan, Gut(sc)
NEW YORK: DISBANDS 2
7 Supply Centers - Nyc, Nje, Phi, Mas, Ohi, Wdc,
Mic
6 Armies - Bea, Upe, Ken, Mic, Ind, Nys
3 Fleets - Mab, Gsl, Nao
PERU: DISBANDS 1
0 Supply Centers -
0 Armies -
1 Fleet - Gog
QUEBEC:
2 Supply Centers - Que, Nsc
0 Armies -
2 Fleets - Nsc, Nbr(nc)
BRITISH COLUMBIA: BUILDS 2
10 Supply Centers - Anc, Van, Cgy, Was, Haw,
Man, Min, Ung, Gre, Mon
5 Armies - Min, Mon, Non, Won, Man
3 Fleets - Mpo, Sol, Gre
TEXAS - ELIMINATED 2004
NEXT DEADLINE: WINTER 2005 ADJUSTMENTS DUE SATURDAY, MARCH 8TH (11:59 PM GMT)!!
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| DC138 WOOD - Winter 05 Deadline Nears - test_gm (Sep 13, 2007, 12:00 am) |
Heya gang,
Just sending out the rumpus that Winter 05 is in just under 21.5 hours. Send those Winter Adjustments my way if you haven't yet, please.
Cheers!
Trout[Reply] |
| DC138 Winter Of Our Discontent - Winter 2005 - Wha... - test_gm (Sep 13, 2007, 12:00 am) |
Magic time is created when unconventional person comes
--------------------------------------------------
We see the last Peruvian fleet slip quietly into the sunset as new ones are raised around the board. Meanwhile, New York dismisses their front-line armies in an attempt to regroup.
Please let me know if you spot any errors. Deadline for Spring 2006 orders will be set for Thursday, March 13th (11:59 PM GMT).
Cheers!
Trout
DC-138 A Diplomaticcorp Game Fall of the American Empire 4 Variant Game Started:
Current Turn: Winter 2005
Next Deadline: Fall 2005 Orders Thursday, March 13th (11:59 PM GMT)
The Rowdy Cast
British Columbia Andrew Tanner damienthryn AT gmail DOT com California Bruce Ray Raybrucea AT aol DOT com Cuba Jason K. Githraine AT yahoo DOT com Florida Lee Moore agenbite DOT lee AT gmail DOT com Heartland Andy Ski a_c_2bcool AT hotmail DOT com Mexico Bruce Quinn coebq AT yahoo DOT com New York Rob Ackerley rob_ackerley AT yahoo DOT ca Peru Alex Schmidt wecanworkthisout AT yahoo DOT com Quebec Mike Sims mike AT southwall DOT com Texas Nathan Deily nedily AT yahoo DOT com
Humble GM: Former Trout former DOT trout AT gmail DOT com
WINTER 2005 ADJUSTMENTS:
California: No Adjustments Cuba: No Adjustments Florida: Place FN MIA Heartland: No Adjustments Mexico: BUILDS Fleet Ver, Fleet Gua New York: Remove A Upper Peninsula, A Kentucky Peru: Auto-Disband F Gog Quebec: No Adjustments British Columbia: Builds F Anc, F Van
UNIT / SUPPLY CENTER BREAKDOWN
------------------------------
CALIFORNIA:
10 Supply Centers - Sfr, Los, Sdi, Ore, Ari, Col,
Chh, Kan, San, Dal
8 Armies - Okl, Dal, Wte, San, Kan, Neb, Nme, Ari
2 Fleets - Baj, Npo
CUBA:
3 Supply Centers - Ven, Cal, Bog
1 Army - Bog
2 Fleets - Cal(nc), Ecs
FLORIDA:
12 Supply Centers - Jac, Tam, Mia, Ten, Geo, Nca,
Lou, Hou, Hol, Dom, Hav, Kin
7 Armies - Ten, Hou, Ark, Lou, Hav, Geo, Dso
5 Fleets - Les, Wcs, Kin, Sof, Mia
HEARTLAND:
4 Supply Centers - Mil, Mis, Chi, Ont
4 Armies - Chi, Ont, Mis, Mil
0 Fleets -
MEXICO:
10 Supply Centers - Gua, Mex, Ver, Gut, Dur, Nle,
Nic, Lim, Pan, Yuc
4 Armies - Nic, Pot, Nle, Yuc
6 Fleets - Gof, Lim, Pan, Gut(sc), Ver, Gua
NEW YORK:
7 Supply Centers - Nyc, Nje, Phi, Mas, Ohi, Wdc,
Mic
4 Armies - Bea, Mic, Ind, Nys
3 Fleets - Mab, Gsl, Nao
NEXT DEADLINE: SPRING 2006 ORDERS DUE THURSDAY, MARCH 13TH (11:59 PM GMT)!![Reply] |
| DC138 WOOD - Spring 06 Deadline Reminder - test_gm (Sep 13, 2007, 12:00 am) |
Knock knock knock...
Spring 06 orders are due in just over 16 hours. There are still several sets remaining to come in, so please ensure that you have a confirmation from me.
Cheers!
Trout[Reply] |
| DC138 Winter Of Our Discontent - Spring 2006 - Har... - test_gm (Sep 13, 2007, 12:00 am) |
Our sage guru of all guru-ness plucks this from his Spring 2006 Fortune Cookie: You will soon be more aware of your growing awareness.
Course, we're all aware of hind-sight. Mexico puts on an eye-patch and peg-leg, moving into Carribean waters. New York continues to struggle against the wrath of the previously-stabbed and the weather channels split in disagreement over the coming Canadian cold front or Sunny Californian glow...
One retreat required after all of that - the New York fleet in the Gulf of St Lawrence finds itself finding a new port. Either Newfoundland or Quebec, the American sailors will soon find themselves in a land with strange-speaking people. Deadline for the Summer 2006 retreat will be set for Sunday, March 16th (11:59 PM GMT).
Cheers all. Please just let me know if you spot any mistakes.
Trout
DC-138 A Diplomaticcorp Game Fall of the American Empire 4 Variant Game Started:
Current Turn: Spring 2006
Next Deadline: Summer 2006 Retreats Sunday, March 16th (11:59 PM GMT)
The Rowdy Cast
British Columbia Andrew Tanner damienthryn AT gmail DOT com California Bruce Ray Raybrucea AT aol DOT com Cuba Jason K. Githraine AT yahoo DOT com Florida Lee Moore agenbite DOT lee AT gmail DOT com Heartland Andy Ski a_c_2bcool AT hotmail DOT com Mexico Bruce Quinn coebq AT yahoo DOT com New York Rob Ackerley rob_ackerley AT yahoo DOT ca Peru Alex Schmidt wecanworkthisout AT yahoo DOT com Quebec Mike Sims mike AT southwall DOT com Texas Nathan Deily nedily AT yahoo DOT com
Humble GM: Former Trout former DOT trout AT gmail DOT com
CURRENT SEASON:
SPRING 2006 ORDERS:
BRITISH COLUMBIA:
F MPO H OK F Van - Anc OK F Anc - ARO OK F Gre - NAO [BOUNCE with NAO 1:1] F SOL s (Quebec) F NSC - GSL OK A Min s (HL) A Chi-Mil VOID (No Such Order) A Won s (HL) A Ont OK A Man - Non OK A Non - Abi OK A Mon - Bea OK
CALIFORNIA:
North Pacific - WCO (West Coast?) OK Baja - Gulf of California [BOUNCE with GUA 1:1] Oklahoma - Missouri OK Kansas s Oklahoma - Missouri OK Nebraska s Oklahoma - Missouri OK San Antonio - Houston [BOUNCE with HOU 2:2] Dallas s San Antonio - Houston OK West Texas s Dallas OK New Mexico s Dallas OK Arizona - Colorado OK
CUBA:
A Bogota - Vichada OK F Cali(nc) - South Caribbean Sea [BOUNCE with WES 1:1] F East Caribbean Sea - Venezuela OK
FLORIDA:
A Hou holds OK A in Lou supports A in Hou holding OK A Ark holds OK A Ten supports A Ark holding OK A Dos supports A Ark Holding OK A Geo supports A Ten supporting A Ark OK A Hav to Cam OK F Mia to Sof OK F Sof to GoM OK F Kin to ECS OK F Les supports F Kin to ECS OK F WeS to Scs [BOUNCE with CAL 1:1]
HEARTLAND:
A Chicago - Indiana [BOUNCE with IND 1:1] A Milwaukee - Upper Peninsula [BOUNCE with MIC 1:1] A Missouri - Kentucky OK A Ontario Supports A Montreal VOID (Unit Ordered To Move)
MEXICO:
A Pot - Mex OK F Gua - GCa [BOUNCE with BAJ 1:1] F Ver - GoC OK F Gut - CoM OK F GoF - CoB OK A Nic holds OK A Yuc holds OK A NLe holds OK F Pan - GMo OK F Lima - Gal OK
NEW YORK:
A Beauce - Gaspesie OK F Gulf of St-Lawrence - New Brunswick(sc) VOID [DISLODGED by NSC 2:1] A Indiana Supports A Tennessee - Kentucky [CUT by CHI] F Massachusetts Bay Supports F Gulf of St-Lawrence - New Brunswick(sc) VOID A Michigan - Upper Peninsula [BOUNCE with MIL 1:1] F North Atlantic Ocean - Nova Scotia [BOUNCE with NBR 1:1] A New York State - Ontario [BOUNCE with ONT 1:2]
QUEBEC:
F NSc-GSL OK F NBr/nc-NSc [BOUNCE with NAO 1:1]
SUMMER 2006 RETREATS:
New York F Gulf of St-Lawrence may retreat to Nfl, Lab, Cot, Que or OTB
UNIT / SUPPLY CENTER BREAKDOWN
------------------------------
BRITISH COLUMBIA:
10 Supply Centers - Anc, Van, Cgy, Was, Haw,
Man, Min, Ung, Gre, Mon
5 Armies - Min, Bea, Abi, Won, Non
5 Fleets - Mpo, Sol, Gre, Aro, Anc
CALIFORNIA:
10 Supply Centers - Sfr, Los, Sdi, Ore, Ari, Col,
Chh, Kan, San, Dal
8 Armies - Mis, Dal, Wte, San, Kan, Neb, Nme, Col
2 Fleets - Baj, Wco
CUBA:
3 Supply Centers - Ven, Cal, Bog
1 Army - Vic
2 Fleets - Cal(nc), Ven
FLORIDA:
12 Supply Centers - Jac, Tam, Mia, Ten, Geo, Nca,
Lou, Hou, Hol, Dom, Hav, Kin
7 Armies - Ten, Hou, Ark, Lou, Cam, Geo, Dso
5 Fleets - Les, Wcs, Ecs, Gom, Sof
HEARTLAND:
4 Supply Centers - Mil, Mis, Chi, Ont
4 Armies - Chi, Ont, Ken, Mil
0 Fleets -
MEXICO:
10 Supply Centers - Gua, Mex, Ver, Gut, Dur, Nle,
Nic, Lim, Pan, Yuc
4 Armies - Nic, Mex, Nle, Yuc
6 Fleets - Cob, Gal, Gmo, Com, Goc, Gua
NEW YORK:
7 Supply Centers - Nyc, Nje, Phi, Mas, Ohi, Wdc,
Mic
4 Armies - Bea, Mic, Ind, Nys
3 Fleets - Mab, [Gsl], Nao
QUEBEC:
2 Supply Centers - Que, Nsc
0 Armies -
2 Fleets - Gsl, Nbr(nc)
TEXAS - ELIMINATED 2004
PERU - ELIMINATED 2005
NEXT DEADLINE: SUMMER 2006 RETREATS DUE SUNDAY, MARCH 16TH (11:59 PM GMT)!![Reply] |
| DC138 Winter Of Our Discontent - Spring 2006 - Har... - test_gm (Sep 13, 2007, 12:00 am) |
Fucking coasts... Fucking internet troubles... Fuck... Fuck.... Fuckitty Fuck Fuck Fuck!!!
NY/BC joint victory proposed...
You Got luckly this time Sims... Net problems kept me from checking my orders thoroughly... Fucking 3rd world inter-fucking-net... anyways... guess I have swallowed my words eh Sims...  Hopefully, my stretch of 3 days without net will end today... too little too late for this game though...
Oh well... It doesn't matter much anyway....
----- Original Message ----
From: Former Trout <former.trout(at)gmail.com>
To: dc138 <DC138(at)diplomaticcorp.com>
Cc: Andrew Clarke <a_c_2bcool(at)hotmail.com>; Andrew Tanner <damienthryn(at)gmail.com>; Bruce Quinn <coebq(at)yahoo.com>; Bruce Ray <raybrucea(at)aol.com>; Jason K <Githraine(at)yahoo.com>; Mike Sims <mike(at)southwall.com>; Nathan Deily <ndeily(at)yahoo.com>; Rob Ackerley <rob_ackerley(at)yahoo.ca>; Samuel Smith <agenbite.lee(at)gmail.com>; Steve Lytton <stevelytton(at)hotmail.com>
Sent: Friday, March 14, 2008 8:43:52 PM
Subject: DC138 Winter Of Our Discontent - Spring 2006 - Hard On Equipment
Our sage guru of all guru-ness plucks this from his Spring 2006 Fortune Cookie: You will soon be more aware of your growing awareness.
Course, we're all aware of hind-sight. Mexico puts on an eye-patch and peg-leg, moving into Carribean waters. New York continues to struggle against the wrath of the previously-stabbed and the weather channels split in disagreement over the coming Canadian cold front or Sunny Californian glow...
One retreat required after all of that - the New York fleet in the Gulf of St Lawrence finds itself finding a new port. Either Newfoundland or Quebec, the American sailors will soon find themselves in a land with strange-speaking people. Deadline for the Summer 2006 retreat will be set for Sunday, March 16th (11:59 PM GMT).
Cheers all. Please just let me know if you spot any mistakes.
Trout
DC-138 A Diplomaticcorp Game Fall of the American Empire 4 Variant Game Started:
Current Turn: Spring 2006
Next Deadline: Summer 2006 Retreats Sunday, March 16th (11:59 PM GMT)
The Rowdy Cast
British Columbia Andrew Tanner damienthryn AT gmail DOT com California Bruce Ray Raybrucea AT aol DOT com Cuba Jason K. Githraine AT yahoo DOT com Florida Lee Moore agenbite DOT lee AT gmail DOT com Heartland Andy Ski a_c_2bcool AT hotmail DOT com Mexico Bruce Quinn coebq AT yahoo DOT com New York Rob Ackerley rob_ackerley AT yahoo DOT ca Peru Alex Schmidt wecanworkthisout AT yahoo DOT com Quebec Mike Sims mike AT southwall DOT com Texas Nathan Deily nedily AT yahoo DOT com
Humble GM: Former Trout former DOT trout AT gmail DOT com
CURRENT SEASON:
SPRING 2006 ORDERS:
BRITISH COLUMBIA:
F MPO H OK F Van - Anc OK F Anc - ARO OK F Gre - NAO [BOUNCE with NAO 1:1] F SOL s (Quebec) F NSC - GSL OK A Min s (HL) A Chi-Mil VOID (No Such Order) A Won s (HL) A Ont OK A Man - Non OK A Non - Abi OK A Mon - Bea OK
CALIFORNIA:
North Pacific - WCO (West Coast?) OK Baja - Gulf of California [BOUNCE with GUA 1:1] Oklahoma - Missouri OK Kansas s Oklahoma - Missouri OK Nebraska s Oklahoma - Missouri OK San Antonio - Houston [BOUNCE with HOU 2:2] Dallas s San Antonio - Houston OK West Texas s Dallas OK New Mexico s Dallas OK Arizona - Colorado OK
CUBA:
A Bogota - Vichada OK F Cali(nc) - South Caribbean Sea [BOUNCE with WES 1:1] F East Caribbean Sea - Venezuela OK
FLORIDA:
A Hou holds OK A in Lou supports A in Hou holding OK A Ark holds OK A Ten supports A Ark holding OK A Dos supports A Ark Holding OK A Geo supports A Ten supporting A Ark OK A Hav to Cam OK F Mia to Sof OK F Sof to GoM OK F Kin to ECS OK F Les supports F Kin to ECS OK F WeS to Scs [BOUNCE with CAL 1:1]
HEARTLAND:
A Chicago - Indiana [BOUNCE with IND 1:1] A Milwaukee - Upper Peninsula [BOUNCE with MIC 1:1] A Missouri - Kentucky OK A Ontario Supports A Montreal VOID (Unit Ordered To Move)
MEXICO:
A Pot - Mex OK F Gua - GCa [BOUNCE with BAJ 1:1] F Ver - GoC OK F Gut - CoM OK F GoF - CoB OK A Nic holds OK A Yuc holds OK A NLe holds OK F Pan - GMo OK F Lima - Gal OK
NEW YORK:
A Beauce - Gaspesie OK F Gulf of St-Lawrence - New Brunswick(sc) VOID [DISLODGED by NSC 2:1] A Indiana Supports A Tennessee - Kentucky [CUT by CHI] F Massachusetts Bay Supports F Gulf of St-Lawrence - New Brunswick(sc) VOID A Michigan - Upper Peninsula [BOUNCE with MIL 1:1] F North Atlantic Ocean - Nova Scotia [BOUNCE with NBR 1:1] A New York State - Ontario [BOUNCE with ONT 1:2]
QUEBEC:
F NSc-GSL OK F NBr/nc-NSc [BOUNCE with NAO 1:1]
SUMMER 2006 RETREATS:
New York F Gulf of St-Lawrence may retreat to Nfl, Lab, Cot, Que or OTB
UNIT / SUPPLY CENTER BREAKDOWN
------------------------------
BRITISH COLUMBIA:
10 Supply Centers - Anc, Van, Cgy, Was, Haw,
Man, Min, Ung, Gre, Mon
5 Armies - Min, Bea, Abi, Won, Non
5 Fleets - Mpo, Sol, Gre, Aro, Anc
CALIFORNIA:
10 Supply Centers - Sfr, Los, Sdi, Ore, Ari, Col,
Chh, Kan, San, Dal
8 Armies - Mis, Dal, Wte, San, Kan, Neb, Nme, Col
2 Fleets - Baj, Wco
CUBA:
3 Supply Centers - Ven, Cal, Bog
1 Army - Vic
2 Fleets - Cal(nc), Ven
FLORIDA:
12 Supply Centers - Jac, Tam, Mia, Ten, Geo, Nca,
Lou, Hou, Hol, Dom, Hav, Kin
7 Armies - Ten, Hou, Ark, Lou, Cam, Geo, Dso
5 Fleets - Les, Wcs, Ecs, Gom, Sof
HEARTLAND:
4 Supply Centers - Mil, Mis, Chi, Ont
4 Armies - Chi, Ont, Ken, Mil
0 Fleets -
MEXICO:
10 Supply Centers - Gua, Mex, Ver, Gut, Dur, Nle,
Nic, Lim, Pan, Yuc
4 Armies - Nic, Mex, Nle, Yuc
6 Fleets - Cob, Gal, Gmo, Com, Goc, Gua
NEW YORK:
7 Supply Centers - Nyc, Nje, Phi, Mas, Ohi, Wdc,
Mic
4 Armies - Bea, Mic, Ind, Nys
3 Fleets - Mab, [Gsl], Nao
QUEBEC:
2 Supply Centers - Que, Nsc
0 Armies -
2 Fleets - Gsl, Nbr(nc)
TEXAS - ELIMINATED 2004
PERU - ELIMINATED 2005
NEXT DEADLINE: SUMMER 2006 RETREATS DUE SUNDAY, MARCH 16TH (11:59 PM GMT)!!
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| DC138 Winter Of Our Discontent - Summer 2006 - Fam... - test_gm (Sep 13, 2007, 12:00 am) |
About time I got out of that cookie....
Save the fortune. Eat the cookie. On we go. =)
The New York sailors retreat to Quebec and treat themselves to an order of poutine. Deadline for Fall 2006 orders will be set for Friday, March 21st (11:59 PM GMT).
And if I could, I'd like to just say a word about orders. I've received interesting comments from more than one player concerning the incorrect coastal designation of New York's orders last turn. All I can say is to please, please, please submit prelim orders. The more time you give me to review the orders, the greater the chance that I'll see any possible errors and request clarification.
I have to admit that in the games that I'm playing, I'm the worst culprit at getting my orders in just on time - correcting this is one of my Spring resolutions. =)
Nuff said. Cheers everyone!
Trout
DC-138 A Diplomaticcorp Game Fall of the American Empire 4 Variant Game Started:
Current Turn: Summer 2006
Next Deadline: Fall 2006 Orders Friday, March 21st (11:59 PM GMT)
The Rowdy Cast
British Columbia Andrew Tanner damienthryn AT gmail DOT com California Bruce Ray Raybrucea AT aol DOT com Cuba Jason K. Githraine AT yahoo DOT com Florida Lee Moore agenbite DOT lee AT gmail DOT com Heartland Andy Ski a_c_2bcool AT hotmail DOT com Mexico Bruce Quinn coebq AT yahoo DOT com New York Rob Ackerley rob_ackerley AT yahoo DOT ca Peru Alex Schmidt wecanworkthisout AT yahoo DOT com Quebec Mike Sims mike AT southwall DOT com Texas Nathan Deily nedily AT yahoo DOT com
Humble GM: Former Trout former DOT trout AT gmail DOT com
SUMMER 2006 RETREATS: New York F Gulf of St-Lawrence retreats to Quebec
UNIT / SUPPLY CENTER BREAKDOWN ------------------------------
BRITISH COLUMBIA: 10 Supply Centers - Anc, Van, Cgy, Was, Haw, Man, Min, Ung, Gre, Mon 5 Armies - Min, Bea, Abi, Won, Non 5 Fleets - Mpo, Sol, Gre, Aro, Anc
CALIFORNIA: 10 Supply Centers - Sfr, Los, Sdi, Ore, Ari, Col, Chh, Kan, San, Dal 8 Armies - Mis, Dal, Wte, San, Kan, Neb, Nme, Col 2 Fleets - Baj, Wco
CUBA: 3 Supply Centers - Ven, Cal, Bog 1 Army - Vic 2 Fleets - Cal(nc), Ven
FLORIDA: 12 Supply Centers - Jac, Tam, Mia, Ten, Geo, Nca, Lou, Hou, Hol, Dom, Hav, Kin 7 Armies - Ten, Hou, Ark, Lou, Cam, Geo, Dso 5 Fleets - Les, Wcs, Ecs, Gom, Sof
HEARTLAND: 4 Supply Centers - Mil, Mis, Chi, Ont 4 Armies - Chi, Ont, Ken, Mil 0 Fleets -
MEXICO: 10 Supply Centers - Gua, Mex, Ver, Gut, Dur, Nle, Nic, Lim, Pan, Yuc 4 Armies - Nic, Mex, Nle, Yuc 6 Fleets - Cob, Gal, Gmo, Com, Goc, Gua
NEW YORK: 7 Supply Centers - Nyc, Nje, Phi, Mas, Ohi, Wdc, Mic 4 Armies - Bea, Mic, Ind, Nys 3 Fleets - Mab, Que, Nao
QUEBEC: 2 Supply Centers - Que, Nsc 0 Armies - 2 Fleets - Gsl, Nbr(nc)
TEXAS - ELIMINATED 2004
PERU - ELIMINATED 2005
NEXT DEADLINE: FALL 2006 ORDERS DUE FRIDAY, MARCH 21ST (11:59 PM GMT)!![Reply] |
| DC138 Winter Of Our Discontent - Spring 2006 - Har... - test_gm (Sep 13, 2007, 12:00 am) |
Aw Sims... in this game there was no disconnect between my words and my orders to anyone until HL decided to fudge a foolproof (or so I thought) plan to take MON and QUE from you. And not since I sought retribtution for his actions has there been disconnect. Twice HL screwed me since (justifably) and for several turns BC has spoken great things towards peace in the NE, yet his rush of units to the region paint an entirely contrasting picture.
You're just mad and upset that you were jumped on first - before you got yourself established enough to turn on HL or I. I'm just mad because I had too much confidence in the compotence of HL. I put too much trust in BC when clearly he didn't deserve any, and at present you are just an extension of him.
The fact of the matter is HL will lose his centers before he gains anything significant from me. Your in a position to lose both your SC's this turn and surprisingly even after my misorder, I am not in terrible position in the short term.
In the long term, unless BC and Cali crack or Mexico makes immediate moves to flex some naval muscle in the Pacific, then the game is over. Not one to throw in the towel, but another season or two on the current course and our little love triangle in the NE will be a distant thought.
Rob
----- Original Message ----
From: Michael Sims <mike(at)southwall.com>
To: Rob Ackerley <rob_ackerley(at)yahoo.ca>; Former Trout <former.trout(at)gmail.com>; dc138 <DC138(at)diplomaticcorp.com>
Cc: Andrew Clarke <a_c_2bcool(at)hotmail.com>; Andrew Tanner <damienthryn(at)gmail.com>; Bruce Quinn <coebq(at)yahoo.com>; Bruce Ray <raybrucea(at)aol.com>; Jason K <Githraine(at)yahoo.com>; Nathan Deily <ndeily(at)yahoo.com>; Samuel Smith <agenbite.lee(at)gmail.com>; Steve Lytton <stevelytton(at)hotmail.com>
Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2008 12:13:49 PM
Subject: RE: DC138 Winter Of Our Discontent - Spring 2006 - Hard On Equipment
Ya know if you’d stop dropping your front line units maybe you could stop those huge empires in the west. I’m sure you’ll keep going at me tho, the little guy with two measly fleets just trying to stay alive, and Cali/BC will keep expanding. But of course you prefer me as your enemy, you’ve made that clear.
guess I have swallowed my words eh Sims
I didn’t know you used words. Based on the complete disconnect between what you’ve said this game and what you’ve ordered, I figured you were just speaking gibberish.
Fuck... Fuck.... Fuckitty Fuck Fuck Fuck!!!
…pretty much confirms that.
From: Rob Ackerley [mailto:rob_ackerley(at)yahoo.ca]
Sent: Saturday, March 15, 2008 12:37 PM
To: Former Trout; dc138
Cc: Andrew Clarke; Andrew Tanner; Bruce Quinn; Bruce Ray; Jason K; Michael Sims ; Nathan Deily; Samuel Smith; Steve Lytton
Subject: Re: DC138 Winter Of Our Discontent - Spring 2006 - Hard On Equipment
Fucking coasts... Fucking internet troubles... Fuck... Fuck.... Fuckitty Fuck Fuck Fuck!!!
NY/BC joint victory proposed...
You Got luckly this time Sims... Net problems kept me from checking my orders thoroughly... Fucking 3rd world inter-fucking-net... anyways... guess I have swallowed my words eh Sims... Hopefully, my stretch of 3 days without net will end today... too little too late for this game though...
Oh well... It doesn't matter much anyway....
----- Original Message ----
From: Former Trout <former.trout(at)gmail.com>
To: dc138 <DC138(at)diplomaticcorp.com>
Cc: Andrew Clarke <a_c_2bcool(at)hotmail.com>; Andrew Tanner <damienthryn(at)gmail.com>; Bruce Quinn <coebq(at)yahoo.com>; Bruce Ray <raybrucea(at)aol.com>; Jason K <Githraine(at)yahoo.com>; Mike Sims <mike(at)southwall.com>; Nathan Deily < ndeily(at)yahoo.com >; Rob Ackerley <rob_ackerley(at)yahoo.ca>; Samuel Smith <agenbite.lee(at)gmail.com>; Steve Lytton <stevelytton(at)hotmail.com>
Sent: Friday, March 14, 2008 8:43:52 PM
Subject: DC138 Winter Of Our Discontent - Spring 2006 - Hard On Equipment
Our sage guru of all guru-ness plucks this from his Spring 2006 Fortune Cookie: You will soon be more aware of your growing awareness.
Course, we're all aware of hind-sight. Mexico puts on an eye-patch and peg-leg, moving into Carribean waters. New York continues to struggle against the wrath of the previously-stabbed and the weather channels split in disagreement over the coming Canadian cold front or Sunny Californian glow...
One retreat required after all of that - the New York fleet in the Gulf of St Lawrence finds itself finding a new port. Either Newfoundland or Quebec , the American sailors will soon find themselves in a land with strange-speaking people. Deadline for the Summer 2006 retreat will be set for Sunday, March 16th (11:59 PM GMT).
Cheers all. Please just let me know if you spot any mistakes.
Trout
DC-138
A Diplomaticcorp Game
Fall of the American Empire 4 Variant
Game Started:
Current Turn:
Spring 2006
Next Deadline:
Summer 2006 Retreats
Sunday, March 16th (11:59 PM GMT)
The Rowdy Cast
British Columbia
Andrew Tanner
damienthryn AT gmail DOT com
California
Bruce Ray
Raybrucea AT aol DOT com
Cuba
Jason K.
Githraine AT yahoo DOT com
Florida
Lee Moore
agenbite DOT lee AT gmail DOT com
Heartland
Andy Ski
a_c_2bcool AT hotmail DOT com
Mexico
Bruce Quinn
coebq AT yahoo DOT com
New York
Rob Ackerley
rob_ackerley AT yahoo DOT ca
Peru
Alex Schmidt
wecanworkthisout AT yahoo DOT com
Quebec
Mike Sims
mike AT southwall DOT com
Texas
Nathan Deily
nedily AT yahoo DOT com
Humble GM:
Former Trout
former DOT trout AT gmail DOT com
CURRENT SEASON:
SPRING 2006 ORDERS:
BRITISH COLUMBIA :
F MPO H
OK
F Van - Anc
OK
F Anc - ARO
OK
F Gre - NAO
[BOUNCE with NAO 1:1]
F SOL s ( Quebec ) F NSC - GSL
OK
A Min s (HL) A Chi-Mil
VOID (No Such Order)
A Won s (HL) A Ont
OK
A Man - Non
OK
A Non - Abi
OK
A Mon - Bea
OK
CALIFORNIA :
North Pacific - WCO (West Coast?)
OK
Baja - Gulf of California
[BOUNCE with GUA 1:1]
Oklahoma - Missouri
OK
Kansas s Oklahoma - Missouri
OK
Nebraska s Oklahoma - Missouri
OK
San Antonio - Houston
[BOUNCE with HOU 2:2]
Dallas s San Antonio - Houston
OK
West Texas s Dallas
OK
New Mexico s Dallas
OK
Arizona - Colorado
OK
CUBA :
A Bogota - Vichada
OK
F Cali (nc) - South Caribbean Sea
[BOUNCE with WES 1:1]
F East Caribbean Sea - Venezuela
OK
FLORIDA :
A Hou holds
OK
A in Lou supports A in Hou holding
OK
A Ark holds
OK
A Ten supports A Ark holding
OK
A Dos supports A Ark Holding
OK
A Geo supports A Ten supporting A Ark
OK
A Hav to Cam
OK
F Mia to Sof
OK
F Sof to GoM
OK
F Kin to ECS
OK
F Les supports F Kin to ECS
OK
F WeS to Scs
[BOUNCE with CAL 1:1]
HEARTLAND:
A Chicago - Indiana
[BOUNCE with IND 1:1]
A Milwaukee - Upper Peninsula
[BOUNCE with MIC 1:1]
A Missouri - Kentucky
OK
A Ontario Supports A Montreal
VOID (Unit Ordered To Move)
MEXICO :
A Pot - Mex
OK
F Gua - GCa
[BOUNCE with BAJ 1:1]
F Ver - GoC
OK
F Gut - CoM
OK
F GoF - CoB
OK
A Nic holds
OK
A Yuc holds
OK
A NLe holds
OK
F Pan - GMo
OK
F Lima - Gal
OK
NEW YORK :
A Beauce - Gaspesie
OK
F Gulf of St-Lawrence - New Brunswick (sc)
VOID [DISLODGED by NSC 2:1]
A Indiana Supports A Tennessee - Kentucky
[CUT by CHI]
F Massachusetts Bay Supports F Gulf of St-Lawrence - New Brunswick (sc)
VOID
A Michigan - Upper Peninsula
[BOUNCE with MIL 1:1]
F North Atlantic Ocean - Nova Scotia
[BOUNCE with NBR 1:1]
A New York State - Ontario
[BOUNCE with ONT 1:2]
QUEBEC :
F NSc-GSL
OK
F NBr/nc-NSc
[BOUNCE with NAO 1:1]
SUMMER 2006 RETREATS:
New York F Gulf of St-Lawrence may retreat to Nfl, Lab, Cot, Que or OTB
UNIT / SUPPLY CENTER BREAKDOWN
------------------------------
BRITISH COLUMBIA :
10 Supply Centers - Anc, Van, Cgy, Was, Haw,
Man, Min, Ung, Gre, Mon
5 Armies - Min, Bea, Abi, Won, Non
5 Fleets - Mpo, Sol, Gre, Aro, Anc
CALIFORNIA :
10 Supply Centers - Sfr, Los, Sdi, Ore , Ari , Col ,
Chh , Kan , San, Dal
8 Armies - Mis, Dal, Wte, San, Kan , Neb , Nme , Col
2 Fleets - Baj, Wco
CUBA :
3 Supply Centers - Ven , Cal , Bog
1 Army - Vic
2 Fleets - Cal(nc), Ven
FLORIDA :
12 Supply Centers - Jac, Tam, Mia, Ten, Geo, Nca,
Lou, Hou, Hol, Dom, Hav, Kin
7 Armies - Ten, Hou , Ark , Lou, Cam , Geo, Dso
5 Fleets - Les, Wcs, Ecs, Gom, Sof
HEARTLAND:
4 Supply Centers - Mil, Mis, Chi, Ont
4 Armies - Chi, Ont, Ken, Mil
0 Fleets -
MEXICO :
10 Supply Centers - Gua, Mex, Ver, Gut, Dur, Nle,
Nic, Lim, Pan, Yuc
4 Armies - Nic, Mex, Nle, Yuc
6 Fleets - Cob, Gal, Gmo, Com, Goc, Gua
NEW YORK :
7 Supply Centers - Nyc, Nje, Phi, Mas, Ohi, Wdc,
Mic
4 Armies - Bea, Mic, Ind , Nys
3 Fleets - Mab, [Gsl], Nao
QUEBEC :
2 Supply Centers - Que, Nsc
0 Armies -
2 Fleets - Gsl, Nbr(nc)
TEXAS - ELIMINATED 2004
PERU - ELIMINATED 2005
NEXT DEADLINE: SUMMER 2006 RETREATS DUE SUNDAY, MARCH 16TH (11:59 PM GMT)!!
Instant message from any web browser! Try the new Yahoo! Canada Messenger for the Web BETA
Ask a question on any topic and get answers from real people. Go to Yahoo! Answers.[Reply] |
| DC138 Winter Of Our Discontent - Spring 2006 - Har... - test_gm (Sep 13, 2007, 12:00 am) |
Just to set the record straight Rob (in case you or anyone else is interested) - the HL 'fudge' of the foolproof plan came at least in part due to my instigation - I thought he might be interested to know that you thought of him as being (I quote) "easily manipulated" and passed along those words of yours.
I have to admit, once I found that you viewed your relationship with your allies as one of mere manipulation, I lost interest in any long term relationship with you, even if that meant risking HL and Quebec combining to hit me in the future.
Frankly I wonder why Florida still sticks by you, and how manipulable you think he is.
That all being said, I don't see how this game is at the point of being proposed as a BC/Cali draw, when there's an alive and powerful Mexico and Florida that could easily contest that draw. And nothing says Cali or Florida couldn't pursue a solo venture. There's a lot of game left, methinks, and I'm sure there's plenty of chance that I'll also enjoy the feeling of clinging to a last few provinces (Artic Pirates Ho!) at some point...
And I hope you'll enjoy that feeling as well, before the end.
Andrew
On Wed, Mar 19, 2008 at 12:08 PM, Rob Ackerley <rob_ackerley(at)yahoo.ca ([email]rob_ackerley(at)yahoo.ca[/email])> wrote:
Aw Sims... in this game there was no disconnect between my words and my orders to anyone until HL decided to fudge a foolproof (or so I thought) plan to take MON and QUE from you. And not since I sought retribtution for his actions has there been disconnect. Twice HL screwed me since (justifably) and for several turns BC has spoken great things towards peace in the NE, yet his rush of units to the region paint an entirely contrasting picture.
You're just mad and upset that you were jumped on first - before you got yourself established enough to turn on HL or I. I'm just mad because I had too much confidence in the compotence of HL. I put too much trust in BC when clearly he didn't deserve any, and at present you are just an extension of him.
The fact of the matter is HL will lose his centers before he gains anything significant from me. Your in a position to lose both your SC's this turn and surprisingly even after my misorder, I am not in terrible position in the short term.
In the long term, unless BC and Cali crack or Mexico makes immediate moves to flex some naval muscle in the Pacific, then the game is over. Not one to throw in the towel, but another season or two on the current course and our little love triangle in the NE will be a distant thought.
Rob
----- Original Message ----
From: Michael Sims <mike(at)southwall.com ([email]mike(at)southwall.com[/email])>
To: Rob Ackerley <rob_ackerley(at)yahoo.ca ([email]rob_ackerley(at)yahoo.ca[/email])>; Former Trout <former.trout(at)gmail.com ([email]former.trout(at)gmail.com[/email])>; dc138 <DC138(at)diplomaticcorp.com ([email]DC138(at)diplomaticcorp.com[/email])>
Cc: Andrew Clarke <a_c_2bcool(at)hotmail.com ([email]a_c_2bcool(at)hotmail.com[/email])>; Andrew Tanner <damienthryn(at)gmail.com ([email]damienthryn(at)gmail.com[/email])>; Bruce Quinn <coebq(at)yahoo.com ([email]coebq(at)yahoo.com[/email])>; Bruce Ray <raybrucea(at)aol.com ([email]raybrucea(at)aol.com[/email])>; Jason K <Githraine(at)yahoo.com ([email]Githraine(at)yahoo.com[/email])>; Nathan Deily <ndeily(at)yahoo.com ([email]ndeily(at)yahoo.com[/email])>; Samuel Smith <agenbite.lee(at)gmail.com ([email]agenbite.lee(at)gmail.com[/email])>; Steve Lytton <stevelytton(at)hotmail.com ([email]stevelytton(at)hotmail.com[/email])>
Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2008 12:13:49 PM
Subject: RE: DC138 Winter Of Our Discontent - Spring 2006 - Hard On Equipment
Ya know if you'd stop dropping your front line units maybe you could stop those huge empires in the west. I'm sure you'll keep going at me tho, the little guy with two measly fleets just trying to stay alive, and Cali/BC will keep expanding. But of course you prefer me as your enemy, you've made that clear.
guess I have swallowed my words eh Sims
I didn't know you used words. Based on the complete disconnect between what you've said this game and what you've ordered, I figured you were just speaking gibberish.
Fuck... Fuck.... Fuckitty Fuck Fuck Fuck!!!
…pretty much confirms that.
From: Rob Ackerley [mailto:rob_ackerley(at)yahoo.ca ([email]rob_ackerley(at)yahoo.ca[/email])]
Sent: Saturday, March 15, 2008 12:37 PM
To: Former Trout; dc138
Cc: Andrew Clarke; Andrew Tanner; Bruce Quinn; Bruce Ray; Jason K; Michael Sims ; Nathan Deily; Samuel Smith; Steve Lytton
Subject: Re: DC138 Winter Of Our Discontent - Spring 2006 - Hard On Equipment
Fucking coasts... Fucking internet troubles... Fuck... Fuck.... Fuckitty Fuck Fuck Fuck!!!
NY/BC joint victory proposed...
You Got luckly this time Sims... Net problems kept me from checking my orders thoroughly... Fucking 3rd world inter-fucking-net... anyways... guess I have swallowed my words eh Sims... Hopefully, my stretch of 3 days without net will end today... too little too late for this game though...
Oh well... It doesn't matter much anyway....
----- Original Message ----
From: Former Trout <former.trout(at)gmail.com ([email]former.trout(at)gmail.com[/email])>
To: dc138 <DC138(at)diplomaticcorp.com ([email]DC138(at)diplomaticcorp.com[/email])>
Cc: Andrew Clarke <a_c_2bcool(at)hotmail.com ([email]a_c_2bcool(at)hotmail.com[/email])>; Andrew Tanner <damienthryn(at)gmail.com ([email]damienthryn(at)gmail.com[/email])>; Bruce Quinn <coebq(at)yahoo.com ([email]coebq(at)yahoo.com[/email])>; Bruce Ray <raybrucea(at)aol.com ([email]raybrucea(at)aol.com[/email])>; Jason K <Githraine(at)yahoo.com ([email]Githraine(at)yahoo.com[/email])>; Mike Sims <mike(at)southwall.com ([email]mike(at)southwall.com[/email])>; Nathan Deily < ndeily(at)yahoo.com ([email]ndeily(at)yahoo.com[/email]) >; Rob Ackerley <rob_ackerley(at)yahoo.ca ([email]rob_ackerley(at)yahoo.ca[/email])>; Samuel Smith <agenbite.lee(at)gmail.com ([email]agenbite.lee(at)gmail.com[/email])>; Steve Lytton <stevelytton(at)hotmail.com ([email]stevelytton(at)hotmail.com[/email])>
Sent: Friday, March 14, 2008 8:43:52 PM
Subject: DC138 Winter Of Our Discontent - Spring 2006 - Hard On Equipment
Our sage guru of all guru-ness plucks this from his Spring 2006 Fortune Cookie: You will soon be more aware of your growing awareness.
Course, we're all aware of hind-sight. Mexico puts on an eye-patch and peg-leg, moving into Carribean waters. New York continues to struggle against the wrath of the previously-stabbed and the weather channels split in disagreement over the coming Canadian cold front or Sunny Californian glow...
One retreat required after all of that - the New York fleet in the Gulf of St Lawrence finds itself finding a new port. Either Newfoundland or Quebec , the American sailors will soon find themselves in a land with strange-speaking people. Deadline for the Summer 2006 retreat will be set for Sunday, March 16th (11:59 PM GMT).
Cheers all. Please just let me know if you spot any mistakes.
Trout
DC-138
A Diplomaticcorp Game
Fall of the American Empire 4 Variant
Game Started:
Current Turn:
Spring 2006
Next Deadline:
Summer 2006 Retreats
Sunday, March 16th (11:59 PM GMT)
The Rowdy Cast
British Columbia
Andrew Tanner
damienthryn AT gmail DOT com
California
Bruce Ray
Raybrucea AT aol DOT com
Cuba
Jason K.
Githraine AT yahoo DOT com
Florida
Lee Moore
agenbite DOT lee AT gmail DOT com
Heartland
Andy Ski
a_c_2bcool AT hotmail DOT com
Mexico
Bruce Quinn
coebq AT yahoo DOT com
New York
Rob Ackerley
rob_ackerley AT yahoo DOT ca
Peru
Alex Schmidt
wecanworkthisout AT yahoo DOT com
Quebec
Mike Sims
mike AT southwall DOT com
Texas
Nathan Deily
nedily AT yahoo DOT com
Humble GM:
Former Trout
former DOT trout AT gmail DOT com
CURRENT SEASON:
SPRING 2006 ORDERS:
BRITISH COLUMBIA :
F MPO H
OK
F Van - Anc
OK
F Anc - ARO
OK
F Gre - NAO
[BOUNCE with NAO 1:1]
F SOL s ( Quebec ) F NSC - GSL
OK
A Min s (HL) A Chi-Mil
VOID (No Such Order)
A Won s (HL) A Ont
OK
A Man - Non
OK
A Non - Abi
OK
A Mon - Bea
OK
CALIFORNIA :
North Pacific - WCO (West Coast?)
OK
Baja - Gulf of California
[BOUNCE with GUA 1:1]
Oklahoma - Missouri
OK
Kansas s Oklahoma - Missouri
OK
Nebraska s Oklahoma - Missouri
OK
San Antonio - Houston
[BOUNCE with HOU 2:2]
Dallas s San Antonio - Houston
OK
West Texas s Dallas
OK
New Mexico s Dallas
OK
Arizona - Colorado
OK
CUBA :
A Bogota - Vichada
OK
F Cali (nc) - South Caribbean Sea
[BOUNCE with WES 1:1]
F East Caribbean Sea - Venezuela
OK
FLORIDA :
A Hou holds
OK
A in Lou supports A in Hou holding
OK
A Ark holds
OK
A Ten supports A Ark holding
OK
A Dos supports A Ark Holding
OK
A Geo supports A Ten supporting A Ark
OK
A Hav to Cam
OK
F Mia to Sof
OK
F Sof to GoM
OK
F Kin to ECS
OK
F Les supports F Kin to ECS
OK
F WeS to Scs
[BOUNCE with CAL 1:1]
HEARTLAND:
A Chicago - Indiana
[BOUNCE with IND 1:1]
A Milwaukee - Upper Peninsula
[BOUNCE with MIC 1:1]
A Missouri - Kentucky
OK
A Ontario Supports A Montreal
VOID (Unit Ordered To Move)
MEXICO :
A Pot - Mex
OK
F Gua - GCa
[BOUNCE with BAJ 1:1]
F Ver - GoC
OK
F Gut - CoM
OK
F GoF - CoB
OK
A Nic holds
OK
A Yuc holds
OK
A NLe holds
OK
F Pan - GMo
OK
F Lima - Gal
OK
NEW YORK :
A Beauce - Gaspesie
OK
F Gulf of St-Lawrence - New Brunswick (sc)
VOID [DISLODGED by NSC 2:1]
A Indiana Supports A Tennessee - Kentucky
[CUT by CHI]
F Massachusetts Bay Supports F Gulf of St-Lawrence - New Brunswick (sc)
VOID
A Michigan - Upper Peninsula
[BOUNCE with MIL 1:1]
F North Atlantic Ocean - Nova Scotia
[BOUNCE with NBR 1:1]
A New York State - Ontario
[BOUNCE with ONT 1:2]
QUEBEC :
F NSc-GSL
OK
F NBr/nc-NSc
[BOUNCE with NAO 1:1]
SUMMER 2006 RETREATS:
New York F Gulf of St-Lawrence may retreat to Nfl, Lab, Cot, Que or OTB
UNIT / SUPPLY CENTER BREAKDOWN
------------------------------
BRITISH COLUMBIA :
10 Supply Centers - Anc, Van, Cgy, Was, Haw,
Man, Min, Ung, Gre, Mon
5 Armies - Min, Bea, Abi, Won, Non
5 Fleets - Mpo, Sol, Gre, Aro, Anc
CALIFORNIA :
10 Supply Centers - Sfr, Los, Sdi, Ore , Ari , Col ,
Chh , Kan , San, Dal
8 Armies - Mis, Dal, Wte, San, Kan , Neb , Nme , Col
2 Fleets - Baj, Wco
CUBA :
3 Supply Centers - Ven , Cal , Bog
1 Army - Vic
2 Fleets - Cal(nc), Ven
FLORIDA :
12 Supply Centers - Jac, Tam, Mia, Ten, Geo, Nca,
Lou, Hou, Hol, Dom, Hav, Kin
7 Armies - Ten, Hou , Ark , Lou, Cam , Geo, Dso
5 Fleets - Les, Wcs, Ecs, Gom, Sof
HEARTLAND:
4 Supply Centers - Mil, Mis, Chi, Ont
4 Armies - Chi, Ont, Ken, Mil
0 Fleets -
MEXICO :
10 Supply Centers - Gua, Mex, Ver, Gut, Dur, Nle,
Nic, Lim, Pan, Yuc
4 Armies - Nic, Mex, Nle, Yuc
6 Fleets - Cob, Gal, Gmo, Com, Goc, Gua
NEW YORK :
7 Supply Centers - Nyc, Nje, Phi, Mas, Ohi, Wdc,
Mic
4 Armies - Bea, Mic, Ind , Nys
3 Fleets - Mab, [Gsl], Nao
QUEBEC :
2 Supply Centers - Que, Nsc
0 Armies -
2 Fleets - Gsl, Nbr(nc)
TEXAS - ELIMINATED 2004
PERU - ELIMINATED 2005
NEXT DEADLINE: SUMMER 2006 RETREATS DUE SUNDAY, MARCH 16TH (11:59 PM GMT)!!
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| DC138 Winter Of Our Discontent - Spring 2006 - Har... - test_gm (Sep 13, 2007, 12:00 am) |
I can say "without a doubt that HL has NOT been sporadic and flip flopping all game and show proof"
: without a doubt that HL has NOT been sporadic and flip flopping all game and show proof :
There I accept your resignation.
-mike
PS...
However accepting that this is yet another statement not intended for the "truth" column in this game's tally of New Yorker verbiage, I'll assume it's more of that gibberish and you didnt intend for the words to arrange themselves into sentences when you spewed them out.
From: Rob Ackerley [mailto:rob_ackerley(at)yahoo.ca]
Sent: Wed 3/19/2008 1:53 PM
To: Andrew Tanner
Cc: Michael Sims; Former Trout; dc138; Andrew Clarke; Bruce Quinn; Bruce Ray; Jason K; Nathan Deily; Samuel Smith; Steve Lytton
Subject: Re: DC138 Winter Of Our Discontent - Spring 2006 - Hard On Equipment
Andrew,
firstly I think you are thinking of the wrong foolproof plan as our communication when HL fudged it wasminimal long before my "easily manipulated" statement. And the funny thing about your declaration of my statements further solidifies my statement regarding HL. If there is anyone on this board than can say without a doubt that HL has NOT been sporadic and flip flopping all game and show proof then I will resign... right I guess I play on...
And if you accurately read what I wrote - not interpret what you want and how it suits you best - you will clearly see, and I quote "unless BC and Cali crack or Mexico makes immediate moves to flex some naval muscle in the Pacific, then the game is over." If those things happen then yes there is much to play for. But last seasons moves show Mexico edging more and more into the Caribbean and shows only the faint and probably staged movement north of a lone Cali fleet.
So like i said, and again I quote "another season or two on the current course..." and there won't be much left to discuss.
----- Original Message ----
From: Andrew Tanner <damienthryn(at)gmail.com>
To: Rob Ackerley <rob_ackerley(at)yahoo.ca>
Cc: Michael Sims <mike(at)southwall.com>; Former Trout <former.trout(at)gmail.com>; dc138 <DC138(at)diplomaticcorp.com>; Andrew Clarke <a_c_2bcool(at)hotmail.com>; Bruce Quinn <coebq(at)yahoo.com>; Bruce Ray <raybrucea(at)aol.com>; Jason K <Githraine(at)yahoo.com>; Nathan Deily <ndeily(at)yahoo.com>; Samuel Smith <agenbite.lee(at)gmail.com>; Steve Lytton <stevelytton(at)hotmail.com>
Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2008 1:30:30 PM
Subject: Re: DC138 Winter Of Our Discontent - Spring 2006 - Hard On Equipment
Just to set the record straight Rob (in case you or anyone else is interested) - the HL 'fudge' of the foolproof plan came at least in part due to my instigation - I thought he might be interested to know that you thought of him as being (I quote) "easily manipulated" and passed along those words of yours.
I have to admit, once I found that you viewed your relationship with your allies as one of mere manipulation, I lost interest in any long term relationship with you, even if that meant risking HL and Quebec combining to hit me in the future.
Frankly I wonder why Florida still sticks by you, and how manipulable you think he is.
That all being said, I don't see how this game is at the point of being proposed as a BC/Cali draw, when there's an alive and powerful Mexico and Florida that could easily contest that draw. And nothing says Cali or Florida couldn't pursue a solo venture. There's a lot of game left, methinks, and I'm sure there's plenty of chance that I'll also enjoy the feeling of clinging to a last few provinces (Artic Pirates Ho!) at some point...
And I hope you'll enjoy that feeling as well, before the end.
Andrew
On Wed, Mar 19, 2008 at 12:08 PM, Rob Ackerley <rob_ackerley(at)yahoo.ca ([email]rob_ackerley(at)yahoo.ca[/email])> wrote:
Aw Sims... in this game there was no disconnect between my words and my orders to anyone until HL decided to fudge a foolproof (or so I thought) plan to take MON and QUE from you. And not since I sought retribtution for his actions has there been disconnect. Twice HL screwed me since (justifably) and for several turns BC has spoken great things towards peace in the NE, yet his rush of units to the region paint an entirely contrasting picture.
You're just mad and upset that you were jumped on first - before you got yourself established enough to turn on HL or I. I'm just mad because I had too much confidence in the compotence of HL. I put too much trust in BC when clearly he didn't deserve any, and at present you are just an extension of him.
The fact of the matter is HL will lose his centers before he gains anything significant from me. Your in a position to lose both your SC's this turn and surprisingly even after my misorder, I am not in terrible position in the short term.
In the long term, unless BC and Cali crack or Mexico makes immediate moves to flex some naval muscle in the Pacific, then the game is over. Not one to throw in the towel, but another season or two on the current course and our little love triangle in the NE will be a distant thought.
Rob
----- Original Message ----
From: Michael Sims <mike(at)southwall.com ([email]mike(at)southwall.com[/email])>
To: Rob Ackerley <rob_ackerley(at)yahoo.ca ([email]rob_ackerley(at)yahoo.ca[/email])>; Former Trout <former.trout(at)gmail.com ([email]former.trout(at)gmail.com[/email])>; dc138 <DC138(at)diplomaticcorp.com ([email]DC138(at)diplomaticcorp.com[/email])>
Cc: Andrew Clarke <a_c_2bcool(at)hotmail.com ([email]a_c_2bcool(at)hotmail.com[/email])>; Andrew Tanner <damienthryn(at)gmail.com ([email]damienthryn(at)gmail.com[/email])>; Bruce Quinn <coebq(at)yahoo.com ([email]coebq(at)yahoo.com[/email])>; Bruce Ray <raybrucea(at)aol.com ([email]raybrucea(at)aol.com[/email])>; Jason K <Githraine(at)yahoo.com ([email]Githraine(at)yahoo.com[/email])>; Nathan Deily <ndeily(at)yahoo.com ([email]ndeily(at)yahoo.com[/email])>; Samuel Smith <agenbite.lee(at)gmail.com ([email]agenbite.lee(at)gmail.com[/email])>; Steve Lytton <stevelytton(at)hotmail.com ([email]stevelytton(at)hotmail.com[/email])>
Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2008 12:13:49 PM
Subject: RE: DC138 Winter Of Our Discontent - Spring 2006 - Hard On Equipment
Ya know if you'd stop dropping your front line units maybe you could stop those huge empires in the west. I'm sure you'll keep going at me tho, the little guy with two measly fleets just trying to stay alive, and Cali/BC will keep expanding. But of course you prefer me as your enemy, you've made that clear.
guess I have swallowed my words eh Sims
I didn't know you used words. Based on the complete disconnect between what you've said this game and what you've ordered, I figured you were just speaking gibberish.
Fuck... Fuck.... Fuckitty Fuck Fuck Fuck!!!
…pretty much confirms that.
From: Rob Ackerley [mailto:rob_ackerley(at)yahoo.ca ([email]rob_ackerley(at)yahoo.ca[/email])]
Sent: Saturday, March 15, 2008 12:37 PM
To: Former Trout; dc138
Cc: Andrew Clarke; Andrew Tanner; Bruce Quinn; Bruce Ray; Jason K; Michael Sims ; Nathan Deily; Samuel Smith; Steve Lytton
Subject: Re: DC138 Winter Of Our Discontent - Spring 2006 - Hard On Equipment
Fucking coasts... Fucking internet troubles... Fuck... Fuck.... Fuckitty Fuck Fuck Fuck!!!
NY/BC joint victory proposed...
You Got luckly this time Sims... Net problems kept me from checking my orders thoroughly... Fucking 3rd world inter-fucking-net... anyways... guess I have swallowed my words eh Sims... Hopefully, my stretch of 3 days without net will end today... too little too late for this game though...
Oh well... It doesn't matter much anyway....
----- Original Message ----
From: Former Trout <former.trout(at)gmail.com ([email]former.trout(at)gmail.com[/email])>
To: dc138 <DC138(at)diplomaticcorp.com ([email]DC138(at)diplomaticcorp.com[/email])>
Cc: Andrew Clarke <a_c_2bcool(at)hotmail.com ([email]a_c_2bcool(at)hotmail.com[/email])>; Andrew Tanner <damienthryn(at)gmail.com ([email]damienthryn(at)gmail.com[/email])>; Bruce Quinn <coebq(at)yahoo.com ([email]coebq(at)yahoo.com[/email])>; Bruce Ray <raybrucea(at)aol.com ([email]raybrucea(at)aol.com[/email])>; Jason K <Githraine(at)yahoo.com ([email]Githraine(at)yahoo.com[/email])>; Mike Sims <mike(at)southwall.com ([email]mike(at)southwall.com[/email])>; Nathan Deily < ndeily(at)yahoo.com ([email]ndeily(at)yahoo.com[/email]) >; Rob Ackerley <rob_ackerley(at)yahoo.ca ([email]rob_ackerley(at)yahoo.ca[/email])>; Samuel Smith <agenbite.lee(at)gmail.com ([email]agenbite.lee(at)gmail.com[/email])>; Steve Lytton <stevelytton(at)hotmail.com ([email]stevelytton(at)hotmail.com[/email])>
Sent: Friday, March 14, 2008 8:43:52 PM
Subject: DC138 Winter Of Our Discontent - Spring 2006 - Hard On Equipment
Our sage guru of all guru-ness plucks this from his Spring 2006 Fortune Cookie: You will soon be more aware of your growing awareness.
Course, we're all aware of hind-sight. Mexico puts on an eye-patch and peg-leg, moving into Carribean waters. New York continues to struggle against the wrath of the previously-stabbed and the weather channels split in disagreement over the coming Canadian cold front or Sunny Californian glow...
One retreat required after all of that - the New York fleet in the Gulf of St Lawrence finds itself finding a new port. Either Newfoundland or Quebec , the American sailors will soon find themselves in a land with strange-speaking people. Deadline for the Summer 2006 retreat will be set for Sunday, March 16th (11:59 PM GMT).
Cheers all. Please just let me know if you spot any mistakes.
Trout
DC-138
A Diplomaticcorp Game
Fall of the American Empire 4 Variant
Game Started:
Current Turn:
Spring 2006
Next Deadline:
Summer 2006 Retreats
Sunday, March 16th (11:59 PM GMT)
The Rowdy Cast
British Columbia
Andrew Tanner
damienthryn AT gmail DOT com
California
Bruce Ray
Raybrucea AT aol DOT com
Cuba
Jason K.
Githraine AT yahoo DOT com
Florida
Lee Moore
agenbite DOT lee AT gmail DOT com
Heartland
Andy Ski
a_c_2bcool AT hotmail DOT com
Mexico
Bruce Quinn
coebq AT yahoo DOT com
New York
Rob Ackerley
rob_ackerley AT yahoo DOT ca
Peru
Alex Schmidt
wecanworkthisout AT yahoo DOT com
Quebec
Mike Sims
mike AT southwall DOT com
Texas
Nathan Deily
nedily AT yahoo DOT com
Humble GM:
Former Trout
former DOT trout AT gmail DOT com
CURRENT SEASON:
SPRING 2006 ORDERS:
BRITISH COLUMBIA :
F MPO H
OK
F Van - Anc
OK
F Anc - ARO
OK
F Gre - NAO
[BOUNCE with NAO 1:1]
F SOL s ( Quebec ) F NSC - GSL
OK
A Min s (HL) A Chi-Mil
VOID (No Such Order)
A Won s (HL) A Ont
OK
A Man - Non
OK
A Non - Abi
OK
A Mon - Bea
OK
CALIFORNIA :
North Pacific - WCO (West Coast?)
OK
Baja - Gulf of California
[BOUNCE with GUA 1:1]
Oklahoma - Missouri
OK
Kansas s Oklahoma - Missouri
OK
Nebraska s Oklahoma - Missouri
OK
San Antonio - Houston
[BOUNCE with HOU 2:2]
Dallas s San Antonio - Houston
OK
West Texas s Dallas
OK
New Mexico s Dallas
OK
Arizona - Colorado
OK
CUBA :
A Bogota - Vichada
OK
F Cali (nc) - South Caribbean Sea
[BOUNCE with WES 1:1]
F East Caribbean Sea - Venezuela
OK
FLORIDA :
A Hou holds
OK
A in Lou supports A in Hou holding
OK
A Ark holds
OK
A Ten supports A Ark holding
OK
A Dos supports A Ark Holding
OK
A Geo supports A Ten supporting A Ark
OK
A Hav to Cam
OK
F Mia to Sof
OK
F Sof to GoM
OK
F Kin to ECS
OK
F Les supports F Kin to ECS
OK
F WeS to Scs
[BOUNCE with CAL 1:1]
HEARTLAND:
A Chicago - Indiana
[BOUNCE with IND 1:1]
A Milwaukee - Upper Peninsula
[BOUNCE with MIC 1:1]
A Missouri - Kentucky
OK
A Ontario Supports A Montreal
VOID (Unit Ordered To Move)
MEXICO :
A Pot - Mex
OK
F Gua - GCa
[BOUNCE with BAJ 1:1]
F Ver - GoC
OK
F Gut - CoM
OK
F GoF - CoB
OK
A Nic holds
OK
A Yuc holds
OK
A NLe holds
OK
F Pan - GMo
OK
F Lima - Gal
OK
NEW YORK :
A Beauce - Gaspesie
OK
F Gulf of St-Lawrence - New Brunswick (sc)
VOID [DISLODGED by NSC 2:1]
A Indiana Supports A Tennessee - Kentucky
[CUT by CHI]
F Massachusetts Bay Supports F Gulf of St-Lawrence - New Brunswick (sc)
VOID
A Michigan - Upper Peninsula
[BOUNCE with MIL 1:1]
F North Atlantic Ocean - Nova Scotia
[BOUNCE with NBR 1:1]
A New York State - Ontario
[BOUNCE with ONT 1:2]
QUEBEC :
F NSc-GSL
OK
F NBr/nc-NSc
[BOUNCE with NAO 1:1]
SUMMER 2006 RETREATS:
New York F Gulf of St-Lawrence may retreat to Nfl, Lab, Cot, Que or OTB
UNIT / SUPPLY CENTER BREAKDOWN
------------------------------
BRITISH COLUMBIA :
10 Supply Centers - Anc, Van, Cgy, Was, Haw,
Man, Min, Ung, Gre, Mon
5 Armies - Min, Bea, Abi, Won, Non
5 Fleets - Mpo, Sol, Gre, Aro, Anc
CALIFORNIA :
10 Supply Centers - Sfr, Los, Sdi, Ore , Ari , Col ,
Chh , Kan , San, Dal
8 Armies - Mis, Dal, Wte, San, Kan , Neb , Nme , Col
2 Fleets - Baj, Wco
CUBA :
3 Supply Centers - Ven , Cal , Bog
1 Army - Vic
2 Fleets - Cal(nc), Ven
FLORIDA :
12 Supply Centers - Jac, Tam, Mia, Ten, Geo, Nca,
Lou, Hou, Hol, Dom, Hav, Kin
7 Armies - Ten, Hou , Ark , Lou, Cam , Geo, Dso
5 Fleets - Les, Wcs, Ecs, Gom, Sof
HEARTLAND:
4 Supply Centers - Mil, Mis, Chi, Ont
4 Armies - Chi, Ont, Ken, Mil
0 Fleets -
MEXICO :
10 Supply Centers - Gua, Mex, Ver, Gut, Dur, Nle,
Nic, Lim, Pan, Yuc
4 Armies - Nic, Mex, Nle, Yuc
6 Fleets - Cob, Gal, Gmo, Com, Goc, Gua
NEW YORK :
7 Supply Centers - Nyc, Nje, Phi, Mas, Ohi, Wdc,
Mic
4 Armies - Bea, Mic, Ind , Nys
3 Fleets - Mab, [Gsl], Nao
QUEBEC :
2 Supply Centers - Que, Nsc
0 Armies -
2 Fleets - Gsl, Nbr(nc)
TEXAS - ELIMINATED 2004
PERU - ELIMINATED 2005
NEXT DEADLINE: SUMMER 2006 RETREATS DUE SUNDAY, MARCH 16TH (11:59 PM GMT)!!
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| DC138 Winter Of Our Discontent - Spring 2006 - Har... - test_gm (Sep 13, 2007, 12:00 am) |
GM refuses to accept New York players resignation. Too much paperwork....
On Wed, Mar 19, 2008 at 3:18 PM, Michael Sims <mike(at)southwall.com ([email]mike(at)southwall.com[/email])> wrote:
I can say "without a doubt that HL has NOT been sporadic and flip flopping all game and show proof"
: without a doubt that HL has NOT been sporadic and flip flopping all game and show proof :
There I accept your resignation.
-mike
PS...
However accepting that this is yet another statement not intended for the "truth" column in this game's tally of New Yorker verbiage, I'll assume it's more of that gibberish and you didnt intend for the words to arrange themselves into sentences when you spewed them out.
From: Rob Ackerley [mailto:rob_ackerley(at)yahoo.ca ([email]rob_ackerley(at)yahoo.ca[/email])]
Sent: Wed 3/19/2008 1:53 PM
To: Andrew Tanner
Cc: Michael Sims; Former Trout; dc138; Andrew Clarke; Bruce Quinn; Bruce Ray; Jason K; Nathan Deily; Samuel Smith; Steve Lytton
Subject: Re: DC138 Winter Of Our Discontent - Spring 2006 - Hard On Equipment
Andrew,
firstly I think you are thinking of the wrong foolproof plan as our communication when HL fudged it wasminimal long before my "easily manipulated" statement. And the funny thing about your declaration of my statements further solidifies my statement regarding HL. If there is anyone on this board than can say without a doubt that HL has NOT been sporadic and flip flopping all game and show proof then I will resign... right I guess I play on...
And if you accurately read what I wrote - not interpret what you want and how it suits you best - you will clearly see, and I quote "unless BC and Cali crack or Mexico makes immediate moves to flex some naval muscle in the Pacific, then the game is over." If those things happen then yes there is much to play for. But last seasons moves show Mexico edging more and more into the Caribbean and shows only the faint and probably staged movement north of a lone Cali fleet.
So like i said, and again I quote "another season or two on the current course..." and there won't be much left to discuss.
----- Original Message ----
From: Andrew Tanner <damienthryn(at)gmail.com ([email]damienthryn(at)gmail.com[/email])>
To: Rob Ackerley <rob_ackerley(at)yahoo.ca ([email]rob_ackerley(at)yahoo.ca[/email])>
Cc: Michael Sims <mike(at)southwall.com ([email]mike(at)southwall.com[/email])>; Former Trout <former.trout(at)gmail.com ([email]former.trout(at)gmail.com[/email])>; dc138 <DC138(at)diplomaticcorp.com ([email]DC138(at)diplomaticcorp.com[/email])>; Andrew Clarke <a_c_2bcool(at)hotmail.com ([email]a_c_2bcool(at)hotmail.com[/email])>; Bruce Quinn <coebq(at)yahoo.com ([email]coebq(at)yahoo.com[/email])>; Bruce Ray <raybrucea(at)aol.com ([email]raybrucea(at)aol.com[/email])>; Jason K <Githraine(at)yahoo.com ([email]Githraine(at)yahoo.com[/email])>; Nathan Deily <ndeily(at)yahoo.com ([email]ndeily(at)yahoo.com[/email])>; Samuel Smith <agenbite.lee(at)gmail.com ([email]agenbite.lee(at)gmail.com[/email])>; Steve Lytton <stevelytton(at)hotmail.com ([email]stevelytton(at)hotmail.com[/email])>
Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2008 1:30:30 PM
Subject: Re: DC138 Winter Of Our Discontent - Spring 2006 - Hard On Equipment
Just to set the record straight Rob (in case you or anyone else is interested) - the HL 'fudge' of the foolproof plan came at least in part due to my instigation - I thought he might be interested to know that you thought of him as being (I quote) "easily manipulated" and passed along those words of yours.
I have to admit, once I found that you viewed your relationship with your allies as one of mere manipulation, I lost interest in any long term relationship with you, even if that meant risking HL and Quebec combining to hit me in the future.
Frankly I wonder why Florida still sticks by you, and how manipulable you think he is.
That all being said, I don't see how this game is at the point of being proposed as a BC/Cali draw, when there's an alive and powerful Mexico and Florida that could easily contest that draw. And nothing says Cali or Florida couldn't pursue a solo venture. There's a lot of game left, methinks, and I'm sure there's plenty of chance that I'll also enjoy the feeling of clinging to a last few provinces (Artic Pirates Ho!) at some point...
And I hope you'll enjoy that feeling as well, before the end.
Andrew
On Wed, Mar 19, 2008 at 12:08 PM, Rob Ackerley <rob_ackerley(at)yahoo.ca ([email]rob_ackerley(at)yahoo.ca[/email])> wrote:
[quote:9f7160aa12]
Aw Sims... in this game there was no disconnect between my words and my orders to anyone until HL decided to fudge a foolproof (or so I thought) plan to take MON and QUE from you. And not since I sought retribtution for his actions has there been disconnect. Twice HL screwed me since (justifably) and for several turns BC has spoken great things towards peace in the NE, yet his rush of units to the region paint an entirely contrasting picture.
You're just mad and upset that you were jumped on first - before you got yourself established enough to turn on HL or I. I'm just mad because I had too much confidence in the compotence of HL. I put too much trust in BC when clearly he didn't deserve any, and at present you are just an extension of him.
The fact of the matter is HL will lose his centers before he gains anything significant from me. Your in a position to lose both your SC's this turn and surprisingly even after my misorder, I am not in terrible position in the short term.
In the long term, unless BC and Cali crack or Mexico makes immediate moves to flex some naval muscle in the Pacific, then the game is over. Not one to throw in the towel, but another season or two on the current course and our little love triangle in the NE will be a distant thought.
Rob
----- Original Message ----
From: Michael Sims <mike(at)southwall.com ([email]mike(at)southwall.com[/email])>
To: Rob Ackerley <rob_ackerley(at)yahoo.ca ([email]rob_ackerley(at)yahoo.ca[/email])>; Former Trout <former.trout(at)gmail.com ([email]former.trout(at)gmail.com[/email])>; dc138 <DC138(at)diplomaticcorp.com ([email]DC138(at)diplomaticcorp.com[/email])>
Cc: Andrew Clarke <a_c_2bcool(at)hotmail.com ([email]a_c_2bcool(at)hotmail.com[/email])>; Andrew Tanner <damienthryn(at)gmail.com ([email]damienthryn(at)gmail.com[/email])>; Bruce Quinn <coebq(at)yahoo.com ([email]coebq(at)yahoo.com[/email])>; Bruce Ray <raybrucea(at)aol.com ([email]raybrucea(at)aol.com[/email])>; Jason K <Githraine(at)yahoo.com ([email]Githraine(at)yahoo.com[/email])>; Nathan Deily <ndeily(at)yahoo.com ([email]ndeily(at)yahoo.com[/email])>; Samuel Smith <agenbite.lee(at)gmail.com ([email]agenbite.lee(at)gmail.com[/email])>; Steve Lytton <stevelytton(at)hotmail.com ([email]stevelytton(at)hotmail.com[/email])>
Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2008 12:13:49 PM
Subject: RE: DC138 Winter Of Our Discontent - Spring 2006 - Hard On Equipment
Ya know if you'd stop dropping your front line units maybe you could stop those huge empires in the west. I'm sure you'll keep going at me tho, the little guy with two measly fleets just trying to stay alive, and Cali/BC will keep expanding. But of course you prefer me as your enemy, you've made that clear.
guess I have swallowed my words eh Sims
I didn't know you used words. Based on the complete disconnect between what you've said this game and what you've ordered, I figured you were just speaking gibberish.
Fuck... Fuck.... Fuckitty Fuck Fuck Fuck!!!
…pretty much confirms that.
From: Rob Ackerley [mailto:rob_ackerley(at)yahoo.ca ([email]rob_ackerley(at)yahoo.ca[/email])]
Sent: Saturday, March 15, 2008 12:37 PM
To: Former Trout; dc138
Cc: Andrew Clarke; Andrew Tanner; Bruce Quinn; Bruce Ray; Jason K; Michael Sims ; Nathan Deily; Samuel Smith; Steve Lytton
Subject: Re: DC138 Winter Of Our Discontent - Spring 2006 - Hard On Equipment
Fucking coasts... Fucking internet troubles... Fuck... Fuck.... Fuckitty Fuck Fuck Fuck!!!
NY/BC joint victory proposed...
You Got luckly this time Sims... Net problems kept me from checking my orders thoroughly... Fucking 3rd world inter-fucking-net... anyways... guess I have swallowed my words eh Sims... Hopefully, my stretch of 3 days without net will end today... too little too late for this game though...
Oh well... It doesn't matter much anyway....
----- Original Message ----
From: Former Trout <former.trout(at)gmail.com ([email]former.trout(at)gmail.com[/email])>
To: dc138 <DC138(at)diplomaticcorp.com ([email]DC138(at)diplomaticcorp.com[/email])>
Cc: Andrew Clarke <a_c_2bcool(at)hotmail.com ([email]a_c_2bcool(at)hotmail.com[/email])>; Andrew Tanner <damienthryn(at)gmail.com ([email]damienthryn(at)gmail.com[/email])>; Bruce Quinn <coebq(at)yahoo.com ([email]coebq(at)yahoo.com[/email])>; Bruce Ray <raybrucea(at)aol.com ([email]raybrucea(at)aol.com[/email])>; Jason K <Githraine(at)yahoo.com ([email]Githraine(at)yahoo.com[/email])>; Mike Sims <mike(at)southwall.com ([email]mike(at)southwall.com[/email])>; Nathan Deily < ndeily(at)yahoo.com ([email]ndeily(at)yahoo.com[/email]) >; Rob Ackerley <rob_ackerley(at)yahoo.ca ([email]rob_ackerley(at)yahoo.ca[/email])>; Samuel Smith <agenbite.lee(at)gmail.com ([email]agenbite.lee(at)gmail.com[/email])>; Steve Lytton <stevelytton(at)hotmail.com ([email]stevelytton(at)hotmail.com[/email])>
Sent: Friday, March 14, 2008 8:43:52 PM
Subject: DC138 Winter Of Our Discontent - Spring 2006 - Hard On Equipment
Our sage guru of all guru-ness plucks this from his Spring 2006 Fortune Cookie: You will soon be more aware of your growing awareness.
Course, we're all aware of hind-sight. Mexico puts on an eye-patch and peg-leg, moving into Carribean waters. New York continues to struggle against the wrath of the previously-stabbed and the weather channels split in disagreement over the coming Canadian cold front or Sunny Californian glow...
One retreat required after all of that - the New York fleet in the Gulf of St Lawrence finds itself finding a new port. Either Newfoundland or Quebec , the American sailors will soon find themselves in a land with strange-speaking people. Deadline for the Summer 2006 retreat will be set for Sunday, March 16th (11:59 PM GMT).
Cheers all. Please just let me know if you spot any mistakes.
Trout
DC-138
A Diplomaticcorp Game
Fall of the American Empire 4 Variant
Game Started:
Current Turn:
Spring 2006
Next Deadline:
Summer 2006 Retreats
Sunday, March 16th (11:59 PM GMT)
The Rowdy Cast
British Columbia
Andrew Tanner
damienthryn AT gmail DOT com
California
Bruce Ray
Raybrucea AT aol DOT com
Cuba
Jason K.
Githraine AT yahoo DOT com
Florida
Lee Moore
agenbite DOT lee AT gmail DOT com
Heartland
Andy Ski
a_c_2bcool AT hotmail DOT com
Mexico
Bruce Quinn
coebq AT yahoo DOT com
New York
Rob Ackerley
rob_ackerley AT yahoo DOT ca
Peru
Alex Schmidt
wecanworkthisout AT yahoo DOT com
Quebec
Mike Sims
mike AT southwall DOT com
Texas
Nathan Deily
nedily AT yahoo DOT com
Humble GM:
Former Trout
former DOT trout AT gmail DOT com
CURRENT SEASON:
SPRING 2006 ORDERS:
BRITISH COLUMBIA :
F MPO H
OK
F Van - Anc
OK
F Anc - ARO
OK
F Gre - NAO
[BOUNCE with NAO 1:1]
F SOL s ( Quebec ) F NSC - GSL
OK
A Min s (HL) A Chi-Mil
VOID (No Such Order)
A Won s (HL) A Ont
OK
A Man - Non
OK
A Non - Abi
OK
A Mon - Bea
OK
CALIFORNIA :
North Pacific - WCO (West Coast?)
OK
Baja - Gulf of California
[BOUNCE with GUA 1:1]
Oklahoma - Missouri
OK
Kansas s Oklahoma - Missouri
OK
Nebraska s Oklahoma - Missouri
OK
San Antonio - Houston
[BOUNCE with HOU 2:2]
Dallas s San Antonio - Houston
OK
West Texas s Dallas
OK
New Mexico s Dallas
OK
Arizona - Colorado
OK
CUBA :
A Bogota - Vichada
OK
F Cali (nc) - South Caribbean Sea
[BOUNCE with WES 1:1]
F East Caribbean Sea - Venezuela
OK
FLORIDA :
A Hou holds
OK
A in Lou supports A in Hou holding
OK
A Ark holds
OK
A Ten supports A Ark holding
OK
A Dos supports A Ark Holding
OK
A Geo supports A Ten supporting A Ark
OK
A Hav to Cam
OK
F Mia to Sof
OK
F Sof to GoM
OK
F Kin to ECS
OK
F Les supports F Kin to ECS
OK
F WeS to Scs
[BOUNCE with CAL 1:1]
HEARTLAND:
A Chicago - Indiana
[BOUNCE with IND 1:1]
A Milwaukee - Upper Peninsula
[BOUNCE with MIC 1:1]
A Missouri - Kentucky
OK
A Ontario Supports A Montreal
VOID (Unit Ordered To Move)
MEXICO :
A Pot - Mex
OK
F Gua - GCa
[BOUNCE with BAJ 1:1]
F Ver - GoC
OK
F Gut - CoM
OK
F GoF - CoB
OK
A Nic holds
OK
A Yuc holds
OK
A NLe holds
OK
F Pan - GMo
OK
F Lima - Gal
OK
NEW YORK :
A Beauce - Gaspesie
OK
F Gulf of St-Lawrence - New Brunswick (sc)
VOID [DISLODGED by NSC 2:1]
A Indiana Supports A Tennessee - Kentucky
[CUT by CHI]
F Massachusetts Bay Supports F Gulf of St-Lawrence - New Brunswick (sc)
VOID
A Michigan - Upper Peninsula
[BOUNCE with MIL 1:1]
F North Atlantic Ocean - Nova Scotia
[BOUNCE with NBR 1:1]
A New York State - Ontario
[BOUNCE with ONT 1:2]
QUEBEC :
F NSc-GSL
OK
F NBr/nc-NSc
[BOUNCE with NAO 1:1]
SUMMER 2006 RETREATS:
New York F Gulf of St-Lawrence may retreat to Nfl, Lab, Cot, Que or OTB
UNIT / SUPPLY CENTER BREAKDOWN
------------------------------
BRITISH COLUMBIA :
10 Supply Centers - Anc, Van, Cgy, Was, Haw,
Man, Min, Ung, Gre, Mon
5 Armies - Min, Bea, Abi, Won, Non
5 Fleets - Mpo, Sol, Gre, Aro, Anc
CALIFORNIA :
10 Supply Centers - Sfr, Los, Sdi, Ore , Ari , Col ,
Chh , Kan , San, Dal
8 Armies - Mis, Dal, Wte, San, Kan , Neb , Nme , Col
2 Fleets - Baj, Wco
CUBA :
3 Supply Centers - Ven , Cal , Bog
1 Army - Vic
2 Fleets - Cal(nc), Ven
FLORIDA :
12 Supply Centers - Jac, Tam, Mia, Ten, Geo, Nca,
Lou, Hou, Hol, Dom, Hav, Kin
7 Armies - Ten, Hou , Ark , Lou, Cam , Geo, Dso
5 Fleets - Les, Wcs, Ecs, Gom, Sof
HEARTLAND:
4 Supply Centers - Mil, Mis, Chi, Ont
4 Armies - Chi, Ont, Ken, Mil
0 Fleets -
MEXICO :
10 Supply Centers - Gua, Mex, Ver, Gut, Dur, Nle,
Nic, Lim, Pan, Yuc
4 Armies - Nic, Mex, Nle, Yuc
6 Fleets - Cob, Gal, Gmo, Com, Goc, Gua
NEW YORK :
7 Supply Centers - Nyc, Nje, Phi, Mas, Ohi, Wdc,
Mic
4 Armies - Bea, Mic, Ind , Nys
3 Fleets - Mab, [Gsl], Nao
QUEBEC :
2 Supply Centers - Que, Nsc
0 Armies -
2 Fleets - Gsl, Nbr(nc)
TEXAS - ELIMINATED 2004
PERU - ELIMINATED 2005
NEXT DEADLINE: SUMMER 2006 RETREATS DUE SUNDAY, MARCH 16TH (11:59 PM GMT)!!
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Ask a question on any topic and get answers from real people. Go to Yahoo! Answers.
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[/quote:9f7160aa12][Reply] |
| DC138 Winter Of Our Discontent - Spring 2006 - Har... - test_gm (Sep 13, 2007, 12:00 am) |
Please refrain from declaring my moods. I am not mad, or upset. Rather I've been enjoying the game since you (Rob) devoted an empire 4 times my size to eliminating me, and you have nothing to show for it... and in fact lost 2 centers last round. You're so worried about BC rounding that corner or me living to say "hah" that you are conceding the center of America to California and BC so as to ensure my demise. That is in a way the ultimate compliment that you are giving up your own game to take mine.
However in the same breath, you're bitching about how Cali and BC wont stab each other, when you're bailing on the center of the map in favor of retaining an army in Gas is just handing them more centers and growth w/o having to stab the other. You are feeding the monster that you're complaining about, while getting very unlucky in the battles agaisnt me.
"You're just mad and upset that you were jumped on first - before you got yourself established enough to turn on HL or I."
I think Andrew's comments are right on, and this edifies them. For had you (and Heartland) not stabbed our trio, we would be in the 3 power positions, and everyone else on the map would be encouraging us to stab the other. See this is where your logic falls apart, for you ASSUME that an alliance wont work, and that someone will stab it. However we can see that if players stick to it, then it works. You didnt give ours a chance. You basically stabbed, admittedly so that I couldnt stab you first, and anyone who approaches an alliance like that, will find themselves often alliance-less, facing those who are stronger, urging them disappointedly to stab the other.
"Your in a position to lose both your SC's this turn "
Are you proud of this? You've spent your whole game trying to elim one player, I've survived way longer than I should have, and you're coming up on the short end of the alliance stick after our trio had the best opening possible in this game. Andrew would be toast if you hadn't turned, and Heartland and myself would now be beating on the door of California (sorry Ray!). However, yes, I am in a position to lose my SC's, so kudos to you for a great start well squandered.
From: Rob Ackerley [mailto:rob_ackerley(at)yahoo.ca]
Sent: Wed 3/19/2008 12:08 PM
To: Michael Sims; Former Trout; dc138
Cc: Andrew Clarke; Andrew Tanner; Bruce Quinn; Bruce Ray; Jason K; Nathan Deily; Samuel Smith; Steve Lytton
Subject: Re: DC138 Winter Of Our Discontent - Spring 2006 - Hard On Equipment
Aw Sims... in this game there was no disconnect between my words and my orders to anyone until HL decided to fudge a foolproof (or so I thought) plan to take MON and QUE from you. And not since I sought retribtution for his actions has there been disconnect. Twice HL screwed me since (justifably) and for several turns BC has spoken great things towards peace in the NE, yet his rush of units to the region paint an entirely contrasting picture.
You're just mad and upset that you were jumped on first - before you got yourself established enough to turn on HL or I. I'm just mad because I had too much confidence in the compotence of HL. I put too much trust in BC when clearly he didn't deserve any, and at present you are just an extension of him.
The fact of the matter is HL will lose his centers before he gains anything significant from me. Your in a position to lose both your SC's this turn and surprisingly even after my misorder, I am not in terrible position in the short term.
In the long term, unless BC and Cali crack or Mexico makes immediate moves to flex some naval muscle in the Pacific, then the game is over. Not one to throw in the towel, but another season or two on the current course and our little love triangle in the NE will be a distant thought.
Rob
----- Original Message ----
From: Michael Sims <mike(at)southwall.com>
To: Rob Ackerley <rob_ackerley(at)yahoo.ca>; Former Trout <former.trout(at)gmail.com>; dc138 <DC138(at)diplomaticcorp.com>
Cc: Andrew Clarke <a_c_2bcool(at)hotmail.com>; Andrew Tanner <damienthryn(at)gmail.com>; Bruce Quinn <coebq(at)yahoo.com>; Bruce Ray <raybrucea(at)aol.com>; Jason K <Githraine(at)yahoo.com>; Nathan Deily <ndeily(at)yahoo.com>; Samuel Smith <agenbite.lee(at)gmail.com>; Steve Lytton <stevelytton(at)hotmail.com>
Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2008 12:13:49 PM
Subject: RE: DC138 Winter Of Our Discontent - Spring 2006 - Hard On Equipment
Ya know if you’d stop dropping your front line units maybe you could stop those huge empires in the west. I’m sure you’ll keep going at me tho, the little guy with two measly fleets just trying to stay alive, and Cali/BC will keep expanding. But of course you prefer me as your enemy, you’ve made that clear.
guess I have swallowed my words eh Sims
I didn’t know you used words. Based on the complete disconnect between what you’ve said this game and what you’ve ordered, I figured you were just speaking gibberish.
Fuck... Fuck.... Fuckitty Fuck Fuck Fuck!!!
…pretty much confirms that.
From: Rob Ackerley [mailto:rob_ackerley(at)yahoo.ca]
Sent: Saturday, March 15, 2008 12:37 PM
To: Former Trout; dc138
Cc: Andrew Clarke; Andrew Tanner; Bruce Quinn; Bruce Ray; Jason K; Michael Sims ; Nathan Deily; Samuel Smith; Steve Lytton
Subject: Re: DC138 Winter Of Our Discontent - Spring 2006 - Hard On Equipment
Fucking coasts... Fucking internet troubles... Fuck... Fuck.... Fuckitty Fuck Fuck Fuck!!!
NY/BC joint victory proposed...
You Got luckly this time Sims... Net problems kept me from checking my orders thoroughly... Fucking 3rd world inter-fucking-net... anyways... guess I have swallowed my words eh Sims... Hopefully, my stretch of 3 days without net will end today... too little too late for this game though...
Oh well... It doesn't matter much anyway....
----- Original Message ----
From: Former Trout <former.trout(at)gmail.com>
To: dc138 <DC138(at)diplomaticcorp.com>
Cc: Andrew Clarke <a_c_2bcool(at)hotmail.com>; Andrew Tanner <damienthryn(at)gmail.com>; Bruce Quinn <coebq(at)yahoo.com>; Bruce Ray <raybrucea(at)aol.com>; Jason K <Githraine(at)yahoo.com>; Mike Sims <mike(at)southwall.com>; Nathan Deily < ndeily(at)yahoo.com >; Rob Ackerley <rob_ackerley(at)yahoo.ca>; Samuel Smith <agenbite.lee(at)gmail.com>; Steve Lytton <stevelytton(at)hotmail.com>
Sent: Friday, March 14, 2008 8:43:52 PM
Subject: DC138 Winter Of Our Discontent - Spring 2006 - Hard On Equipment
Our sage guru of all guru-ness plucks this from his Spring 2006 Fortune Cookie: You will soon be more aware of your growing awareness.
Course, we're all aware of hind-sight. Mexico puts on an eye-patch and peg-leg, moving into Carribean waters. New York continues to struggle against the wrath of the previously-stabbed and the weather channels split in disagreement over the coming Canadian cold front or Sunny Californian glow...
One retreat required after all of that - the New York fleet in the Gulf of St Lawrence finds itself finding a new port. Either Newfoundland or Quebec , the American sailors will soon find themselves in a land with strange-speaking people. Deadline for the Summer 2006 retreat will be set for Sunday, March 16th (11:59 PM GMT).
Cheers all. Please just let me know if you spot any mistakes.
Trout
DC-138
A Diplomaticcorp Game
Fall of the American Empire 4 Variant
Game Started:
Current Turn:
Spring 2006
Next Deadline:
Summer 2006 Retreats
Sunday, March 16th (11:59 PM GMT)
The Rowdy Cast
British Columbia
Andrew Tanner
damienthryn AT gmail DOT com
California
Bruce Ray
Raybrucea AT aol DOT com
Cuba
Jason K.
Githraine AT yahoo DOT com
Florida
Lee Moore
agenbite DOT lee AT gmail DOT com
Heartland
Andy Ski
a_c_2bcool AT hotmail DOT com
Mexico
Bruce Quinn
coebq AT yahoo DOT com
New York
Rob Ackerley
rob_ackerley AT yahoo DOT ca
Peru
Alex Schmidt
wecanworkthisout AT yahoo DOT com
Quebec
Mike Sims
mike AT southwall DOT com
Texas
Nathan Deily
nedily AT yahoo DOT com
Humble GM:
Former Trout
former DOT trout AT gmail DOT com
CURRENT SEASON:
SPRING 2006 ORDERS:
BRITISH COLUMBIA :
F MPO H
OK
F Van - Anc
OK
F Anc - ARO
OK
F Gre - NAO
[BOUNCE with NAO 1:1]
F SOL s ( Quebec ) F NSC - GSL
OK
A Min s (HL) A Chi-Mil
VOID (No Such Order)
A Won s (HL) A Ont
OK
A Man - Non
OK
A Non - Abi
OK
A Mon - Bea
OK
CALIFORNIA :
North Pacific - WCO (West Coast?)
OK
Baja - Gulf of California
[BOUNCE with GUA 1:1]
Oklahoma - Missouri
OK
Kansas s Oklahoma - Missouri
OK
Nebraska s Oklahoma - Missouri
OK
San Antonio - Houston
[BOUNCE with HOU 2:2]
Dallas s San Antonio - Houston
OK
West Texas s Dallas
OK
New Mexico s Dallas
OK
Arizona - Colorado
OK
CUBA :
A Bogota - Vichada
OK
F Cali (nc) - South Caribbean Sea
[BOUNCE with WES 1:1]
F East Caribbean Sea - Venezuela
OK
FLORIDA :
A Hou holds
OK
A in Lou supports A in Hou holding
OK
A Ark holds
OK
A Ten supports A Ark holding
OK
A Dos supports A Ark Holding
OK
A Geo supports A Ten supporting A Ark
OK
A Hav to Cam
OK
F Mia to Sof
OK
F Sof to GoM
OK
F Kin to ECS
OK
F Les supports F Kin to ECS
OK
F WeS to Scs
[BOUNCE with CAL 1:1]
HEARTLAND:
A Chicago - Indiana
[BOUNCE with IND 1:1]
A Milwaukee - Upper Peninsula
[BOUNCE with MIC 1:1]
A Missouri - Kentucky
OK
A Ontario Supports A Montreal
VOID (Unit Ordered To Move)
MEXICO :
A Pot - Mex
OK
F Gua - GCa
[BOUNCE with BAJ 1:1]
F Ver - GoC
OK
F Gut - CoM
OK
F GoF - CoB
OK
A Nic holds
OK
A Yuc holds
OK
A NLe holds
OK
F Pan - GMo
OK
F Lima - Gal
OK
NEW YORK :
A Beauce - Gaspesie
OK
F Gulf of St-Lawrence - New Brunswick (sc)
VOID [DISLODGED by NSC 2:1]
A Indiana Supports A Tennessee - Kentucky
[CUT by CHI]
F Massachusetts Bay Supports F Gulf of St-Lawrence - New Brunswick (sc)
VOID
A Michigan - Upper Peninsula
[BOUNCE with MIL 1:1]
F North Atlantic Ocean - Nova Scotia
[BOUNCE with NBR 1:1]
A New York State - Ontario
[BOUNCE with ONT 1:2]
QUEBEC :
F NSc-GSL
OK
F NBr/nc-NSc
[BOUNCE with NAO 1:1]
SUMMER 2006 RETREATS:
New York F Gulf of St-Lawrence may retreat to Nfl, Lab, Cot, Que or OTB
UNIT / SUPPLY CENTER BREAKDOWN
------------------------------
BRITISH COLUMBIA :
10 Supply Centers - Anc, Van, Cgy, Was, Haw,
Man, Min, Ung, Gre, Mon
5 Armies - Min, Bea, Abi, Won, Non
5 Fleets - Mpo, Sol, Gre, Aro, Anc
CALIFORNIA :
10 Supply Centers - Sfr, Los, Sdi, Ore , Ari , Col ,
Chh , Kan , San, Dal
8 Armies - Mis, Dal, Wte, San, Kan , Neb , Nme , Col
2 Fleets - Baj, Wco
CUBA :
3 Supply Centers - Ven , Cal , Bog
1 Army - Vic
2 Fleets - Cal(nc), Ven
FLORIDA :
12 Supply Centers - Jac, Tam, Mia, Ten, Geo, Nca,
Lou, Hou, Hol, Dom, Hav, Kin
7 Armies - Ten, Hou , Ark , Lou, Cam , Geo, Dso
5 Fleets - Les, Wcs, Ecs, Gom, Sof
HEARTLAND:
4 Supply Centers - Mil, Mis, Chi, Ont
4 Armies - Chi, Ont, Ken, Mil
0 Fleets -
MEXICO :
10 Supply Centers - Gua, Mex, Ver, Gut, Dur, Nle,
Nic, Lim, Pan, Yuc
4 Armies - Nic, Mex, Nle, Yuc
6 Fleets - Cob, Gal, Gmo, Com, Goc, Gua
NEW YORK :
7 Supply Centers - Nyc, Nje, Phi, Mas, Ohi, Wdc,
Mic
4 Armies - Bea, Mic, Ind , Nys
3 Fleets - Mab, [Gsl], Nao
QUEBEC :
2 Supply Centers - Que, Nsc
0 Armies -
2 Fleets - Gsl, Nbr(nc)
TEXAS - ELIMINATED 2004
PERU - ELIMINATED 2005
NEXT DEADLINE: SUMMER 2006 RETREATS DUE SUNDAY, MARCH 16TH (11:59 PM GMT)!!
Instant message from any web browser! Try the new Yahoo! Canada Messenger for the Web BETA
Ask a question on any topic and get answers from real people. Go to Yahoo! Answers.[Reply] |
| DC138 Winter Of Our Discontent - Spring 2006 - Har... - test_gm (Sep 13, 2007, 12:00 am) |
Sims... forever witty aren't you.
I find it comical to be heckled over my verbiage by you. Pitty you find it necessary to resort to mud slinging techniques like this. You must be a Democrat.
----- Original Message ----
From: Michael Sims <mike(at)southwall.com>
To: Rob Ackerley <rob_ackerley(at)yahoo.ca>; Andrew Tanner <damienthryn(at)gmail.com>
Cc: Former Trout <former.trout(at)gmail.com>; dc138 <DC138(at)diplomaticcorp.com>; Andrew Clarke <a_c_2bcool(at)hotmail.com>; Bruce Quinn <coebq(at)yahoo.com>; Bruce Ray <raybrucea(at)aol.com>; Jason K <Githraine(at)yahoo.com>; Nathan Deily <ndeily(at)yahoo.com>; Samuel Smith <agenbite.lee(at)gmail.com>; Steve Lytton <stevelytton(at)hotmail.com>
Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2008 3:18:48 PM
Subject: RE: DC138 Winter Of Our Discontent - Spring 2006 - Hard On Equipment
I can say "without a doubt that HL has NOT been sporadic and flip flopping all game and show proof"
: without a doubt that HL has NOT been sporadic and flip flopping all game and show proof :
There I accept your resignation.
-mike
PS...
However accepting that this is yet another statement not intended for the "truth" column in this game's tally of New Yorker verbiage, I'll assume it's more of that gibberish and you didnt intend for the words to arrange themselves into sentences when you spewed them out.
From: Rob Ackerley [mailto:rob_ackerley(at)yahoo.ca]
Sent: Wed 3/19/2008 1:53 PM
To: Andrew Tanner
Cc: Michael Sims; Former Trout; dc138; Andrew Clarke; Bruce Quinn; Bruce Ray; Jason K; Nathan Deily; Samuel Smith; Steve Lytton
Subject: Re: DC138 Winter Of Our Discontent - Spring 2006 - Hard On Equipment
Andrew,
firstly I think you are thinking of the wrong foolproof plan as our communication when HL fudged it wasminimal long before my "easily manipulated" statement. And the funny thing about your declaration of my statements further solidifies my statement regarding HL. If there is anyone on this board than can say without a doubt that HL has NOT been sporadic and flip flopping all game and show proof then I will resign... right I guess I play on...
And if you accurately read what I wrote - not interpret what you want and how it suits you best - you will clearly see, and I quote "unless BC and Cali crack or Mexico makes immediate moves to flex some naval muscle in the Pacific, then the game is over." If those things happen then yes there is much to play for. But last seasons moves show Mexico edging more and more into the Caribbean and shows only the faint and probably staged movement north of a lone Cali fleet.
So like i said, and again I quote "another season or two on the current course..." and there won't be much left to discuss.
----- Original Message ----
From: Andrew Tanner <damienthryn(at)gmail.com>
To: Rob Ackerley <rob_ackerley(at)yahoo.ca>
Cc: Michael Sims <mike(at)southwall.com>; Former Trout <former.trout(at)gmail.com>; dc138 <DC138(at)diplomaticcorp.com>; Andrew Clarke <a_c_2bcool(at)hotmail.com>; Bruce Quinn <coebq(at)yahoo.com>; Bruce Ray <raybrucea(at)aol.com>; Jason K <Githraine(at)yahoo.com>; Nathan Deily <ndeily(at)yahoo.com>; Samuel Smith <agenbite.lee(at)gmail.com>; Steve Lytton <stevelytton(at)hotmail.com>
Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2008 1:30:30 PM
Subject: Re: DC138 Winter Of Our Discontent - Spring 2006 - Hard On Equipment
Just to set the record straight Rob (in case you or anyone else is interested) - the HL 'fudge' of the foolproof plan came at least in part due to my instigation - I thought he might be interested to know that you thought of him as being (I quote) "easily manipulated" and passed along those words of yours.
I have to admit, once I found that you viewed your relationship with your allies as one of mere manipulation, I lost interest in any long term relationship with you, even if that meant risking HL and Quebec combining to hit me in the future.
Frankly I wonder why Florida still sticks by you, and how manipulable you think he is.
That all being said, I don't see how this game is at the point of being proposed as a BC/Cali draw, when there's an alive and powerful Mexico and Florida that could easily contest that draw. And nothing says Cali or Florida couldn't pursue a solo venture. There's a lot of game left, methinks, and I'm sure there's plenty of chance that I'll also enjoy the feeling of clinging to a last few provinces (Artic Pirates Ho!) at some point...
And I hope you'll enjoy that feeling as well, before the end.
Andrew
On Wed, Mar 19, 2008 at 12:08 PM, Rob Ackerley <rob_ackerley(at)yahoo.ca ([email]rob_ackerley(at)yahoo.ca[/email])> wrote:
Aw Sims... in this game there was no disconnect between my words and my orders to anyone until HL decided to fudge a foolproof (or so I thought) plan to take MON and QUE from you. And not since I sought retribtution for his actions has there been disconnect. Twice HL screwed me since (justifably) and for several turns BC has spoken great things towards peace in the NE, yet his rush of units to the region paint an entirely contrasting picture.
You're just mad and upset that you were jumped on first - before you got yourself established enough to turn on HL or I. I'm just mad because I had too much confidence in the compotence of HL. I put too much trust in BC when clearly he didn't deserve any, and at present you are just an extension of him.
The fact of the matter is HL will lose his centers before he gains anything significant from me. Your in a position to lose both your SC's this turn and surprisingly even after my misorder, I am not in terrible position in the short term.
In the long term, unless BC and Cali crack or Mexico makes immediate moves to flex some naval muscle in the Pacific, then the game is over. Not one to throw in the towel, but another season or two on the current course and our little love triangle in the NE will be a distant thought.
Rob
----- Original Message ----
From: Michael Sims <mike(at)southwall.com ([email]mike(at)southwall.com[/email])>
To: Rob Ackerley <rob_ackerley(at)yahoo.ca ([email]rob_ackerley(at)yahoo.ca[/email])>; Former Trout <former.trout(at)gmail.com ([email]former.trout(at)gmail.com[/email])>; dc138 <DC138(at)diplomaticcorp.com ([email]DC138(at)diplomaticcorp.com[/email])>
Cc: Andrew Clarke <a_c_2bcool(at)hotmail.com ([email]a_c_2bcool(at)hotmail.com[/email])>; Andrew Tanner <damienthryn(at)gmail.com ([email]damienthryn(at)gmail.com[/email])>; Bruce Quinn <coebq(at)yahoo.com ([email]coebq(at)yahoo.com[/email])>; Bruce Ray <raybrucea(at)aol.com ([email]raybrucea(at)aol.com[/email])>; Jason K <Githraine(at)yahoo.com ([email]Githraine(at)yahoo.com[/email])>; Nathan Deily <ndeily(at)yahoo.com ([email]ndeily(at)yahoo.com[/email])>; Samuel Smith <agenbite.lee(at)gmail.com ([email]agenbite.lee(at)gmail.com[/email])>; Steve Lytton <stevelytton(at)hotmail.com ([email]stevelytton(at)hotmail.com[/email])>
Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2008 12:13:49 PM
Subject: RE: DC138 Winter Of Our Discontent - Spring 2006 - Hard On Equipment
Ya know if you'd stop dropping your front line units maybe you could stop those huge empires in the west. I'm sure you'll keep going at me tho, the little guy with two measly fleets just trying to stay alive, and Cali/BC will keep expanding. But of course you prefer me as your enemy, you've made that clear.
guess I have swallowed my words eh Sims
I didn't know you used words. Based on the complete disconnect between what you've said this game and what you've ordered, I figured you were just speaking gibberish.
Fuck... Fuck.... Fuckitty Fuck Fuck Fuck!!!
…pretty much confirms that.
From: Rob Ackerley [mailto:rob_ackerley(at)yahoo.ca ([email]rob_ackerley(at)yahoo.ca[/email])]
Sent: Saturday, March 15, 2008 12:37 PM
To: Former Trout; dc138
Cc: Andrew Clarke; Andrew Tanner; Bruce Quinn; Bruce Ray; Jason K; Michael Sims ; Nathan Deily; Samuel Smith; Steve Lytton
Subject: Re: DC138 Winter Of Our Discontent - Spring 2006 - Hard On Equipment
Fucking coasts... Fucking internet troubles... Fuck... Fuck.... Fuckitty Fuck Fuck Fuck!!!
NY/BC joint victory proposed...
You Got luckly this time Sims... Net problems kept me from checking my orders thoroughly... Fucking 3rd world inter-fucking-net... anyways... guess I have swallowed my words eh Sims... Hopefully, my stretch of 3 days without net will end today... too little too late for this game though...
Oh well... It doesn't matter much anyway....
----- Original Message ----
From: Former Trout <former.trout(at)gmail.com ([email]former.trout(at)gmail.com[/email])>
To: dc138 <DC138(at)diplomaticcorp.com ([email]DC138(at)diplomaticcorp.com[/email])>
Cc: Andrew Clarke <a_c_2bcool(at)hotmail.com ([email]a_c_2bcool(at)hotmail.com[/email])>; Andrew Tanner <damienthryn(at)gmail.com ([email]damienthryn(at)gmail.com[/email])>; Bruce Quinn <coebq(at)yahoo.com ([email]coebq(at)yahoo.com[/email])>; Bruce Ray <raybrucea(at)aol.com ([email]raybrucea(at)aol.com[/email])>; Jason K <Githraine(at)yahoo.com ([email]Githraine(at)yahoo.com[/email])>; Mike Sims <mike(at)southwall.com ([email]mike(at)southwall.com[/email])>; Nathan Deily < ndeily(at)yahoo.com ([email]ndeily(at)yahoo.com[/email]) >; Rob Ackerley <rob_ackerley(at)yahoo.ca ([email]rob_ackerley(at)yahoo.ca[/email])>; Samuel Smith <agenbite.lee(at)gmail.com ([email]agenbite.lee(at)gmail.com[/email])>; Steve Lytton <stevelytton(at)hotmail.com ([email]stevelytton(at)hotmail.com[/email])>
Sent: Friday, March 14, 2008 8:43:52 PM
Subject: DC138 Winter Of Our Discontent - Spring 2006 - Hard On Equipment
Our sage guru of all guru-ness plucks this from his Spring 2006 Fortune Cookie: You will soon be more aware of your growing awareness.
Course, we're all aware of hind-sight. Mexico puts on an eye-patch and peg-leg, moving into Carribean waters. New York continues to struggle against the wrath of the previously-stabbed and the weather channels split in disagreement over the coming Canadian cold front or Sunny Californian glow...
One retreat required after all of that - the New York fleet in the Gulf of St Lawrence finds itself finding a new port. Either Newfoundland or Quebec , the American sailors will soon find themselves in a land with strange-speaking people. Deadline for the Summer 2006 retreat will be set for Sunday, March 16th (11:59 PM GMT).
Cheers all. Please just let me know if you spot any mistakes.
Trout
DC-138
A Diplomaticcorp Game
Fall of the American Empire 4 Variant
Game Started:
Current Turn:
Spring 2006
Next Deadline:
Summer 2006 Retreats
Sunday, March 16th (11:59 PM GMT)
The Rowdy Cast
British Columbia
Andrew Tanner
damienthryn AT gmail DOT com
California
Bruce Ray
Raybrucea AT aol DOT com
Cuba
Jason K.
Githraine AT yahoo DOT com
Florida
Lee Moore
agenbite DOT lee AT gmail DOT com
Heartland
Andy Ski
a_c_2bcool AT hotmail DOT com
Mexico
Bruce Quinn
coebq AT yahoo DOT com
New York
Rob Ackerley
rob_ackerley AT yahoo DOT ca
Peru
Alex Schmidt
wecanworkthisout AT yahoo DOT com
Quebec
Mike Sims
mike AT southwall DOT com
Texas
Nathan Deily
nedily AT yahoo DOT com
Humble GM:
Former Trout
former DOT trout AT gmail DOT com
CURRENT SEASON:
SPRING 2006 ORDERS:
BRITISH COLUMBIA :
F MPO H
OK
F Van - Anc
OK
F Anc - ARO
OK
F Gre - NAO
[BOUNCE with NAO 1:1]
F SOL s ( Quebec ) F NSC - GSL
OK
A Min s (HL) A Chi-Mil
VOID (No Such Order)
A Won s (HL) A Ont
OK
A Man - Non
OK
A Non - Abi
OK
A Mon - Bea
OK
CALIFORNIA :
North Pacific - WCO (West Coast?)
OK
Baja - Gulf of California
[BOUNCE with GUA 1:1]
Oklahoma - Missouri
OK
Kansas s Oklahoma - Missouri
OK
Nebraska s Oklahoma - Missouri
OK
San Antonio - Houston
[BOUNCE with HOU 2:2]
Dallas s San Antonio - Houston
OK
West Texas s Dallas
OK
New Mexico s Dallas
OK
Arizona - Colorado
OK
CUBA :
A Bogota - Vichada
OK
F Cali (nc) - South Caribbean Sea
[BOUNCE with WES 1:1]
F East Caribbean Sea - Venezuela
OK
FLORIDA :
A Hou holds
OK
A in Lou supports A in Hou holding
OK
A Ark holds
OK
A Ten supports A Ark holding
OK
A Dos supports A Ark Holding
OK
A Geo supports A Ten supporting A Ark
OK
A Hav to Cam
OK
F Mia to Sof
OK
F Sof to GoM
OK
F Kin to ECS
OK
F Les supports F Kin to ECS
OK
F WeS to Scs
[BOUNCE with CAL 1:1]
HEARTLAND:
A Chicago - Indiana
[BOUNCE with IND 1:1]
A Milwaukee - Upper Peninsula
[BOUNCE with MIC 1:1]
A Missouri - Kentucky
OK
A Ontario Supports A Montreal
VOID (Unit Ordered To Move)
MEXICO :
A Pot - Mex
OK
F Gua - GCa
[BOUNCE with BAJ 1:1]
F Ver - GoC
OK
F Gut - CoM
OK
F GoF - CoB
OK
A Nic holds
OK
A Yuc holds
OK
A NLe holds
OK
F Pan - GMo
OK
F Lima - Gal
OK
NEW YORK :
A Beauce - Gaspesie
OK
F Gulf of St-Lawrence - New Brunswick (sc)
VOID [DISLODGED by NSC 2:1]
A Indiana Supports A Tennessee - Kentucky
[CUT by CHI]
F Massachusetts Bay Supports F Gulf of St-Lawrence - New Brunswick (sc)
VOID
A Michigan - Upper Peninsula
[BOUNCE with MIL 1:1]
F North Atlantic Ocean - Nova Scotia
[BOUNCE with NBR 1:1]
A New York State - Ontario
[BOUNCE with ONT 1:2]
QUEBEC :
F NSc-GSL
OK
F NBr/nc-NSc
[BOUNCE with NAO 1:1]
SUMMER 2006 RETREATS:
New York F Gulf of St-Lawrence may retreat to Nfl, Lab, Cot, Que or OTB
UNIT / SUPPLY CENTER BREAKDOWN
------------------------------
BRITISH COLUMBIA :
10 Supply Centers - Anc, Van, Cgy, Was, Haw,
Man, Min, Ung, Gre, Mon
5 Armies - Min, Bea, Abi, Won, Non
5 Fleets - Mpo, Sol, Gre, Aro, Anc
CALIFORNIA :
10 Supply Centers - Sfr, Los, Sdi, Ore , Ari , Col ,
Chh , Kan , San, Dal
8 Armies - Mis, Dal, Wte, San, Kan , Neb , Nme , Col
2 Fleets - Baj, Wco
CUBA :
3 Supply Centers - Ven , Cal , Bog
1 Army - Vic
2 Fleets - Cal(nc), Ven
FLORIDA :
12 Supply Centers - Jac, Tam, Mia, Ten, Geo, Nca,
Lou, Hou, Hol, Dom, Hav, Kin
7 Armies - Ten, Hou , Ark , Lou, Cam , Geo, Dso
5 Fleets - Les, Wcs, Ecs, Gom, Sof
HEARTLAND:
4 Supply Centers - Mil, Mis, Chi, Ont
4 Armies - Chi, Ont, Ken, Mil
0 Fleets -
MEXICO :
10 Supply Centers - Gua, Mex, Ver, Gut, Dur, Nle,
Nic, Lim, Pan, Yuc
4 Armies - Nic, Mex, Nle, Yuc
6 Fleets - Cob, Gal, Gmo, Com, Goc, Gua
NEW YORK :
7 Supply Centers - Nyc, Nje, Phi, Mas, Ohi, Wdc,
Mic
4 Armies - Bea, Mic, Ind , Nys
3 Fleets - Mab, [Gsl], Nao
QUEBEC :
2 Supply Centers - Que, Nsc
0 Armies -
2 Fleets - Gsl, Nbr(nc)
TEXAS - ELIMINATED 2004
PERU - ELIMINATED 2005
NEXT DEADLINE: SUMMER 2006 RETREATS DUE SUNDAY, MARCH 16TH (11:59 PM GMT)!!
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| DC138 Winter Of Our Discontent - Spring 2006 - Har... - test_gm (Sep 13, 2007, 12:00 am) |
Oy!!
Due to the socialist commie left-wing leanings of the GM, please refrain from any disparagement based on political affiliation.
Yes, I vote NDP!
Trout
On Wed, Mar 19, 2008 at 3:42 PM, Rob Ackerley <rob_ackerley(at)yahoo.ca ([email]rob_ackerley(at)yahoo.ca[/email])> wrote:
Sims... forever witty aren't you.
I find it comical to be heckled over my verbiage by you. Pitty you find it necessary to resort to mud slinging techniques like this. You must be a Democrat.
----- Original Message ----
From: Michael Sims <mike(at)southwall.com ([email]mike(at)southwall.com[/email])>
To: Rob Ackerley <rob_ackerley(at)yahoo.ca ([email]rob_ackerley(at)yahoo.ca[/email])>; Andrew Tanner <damienthryn(at)gmail.com ([email]damienthryn(at)gmail.com[/email])>
Cc: Former Trout <former.trout(at)gmail.com ([email]former.trout(at)gmail.com[/email])>; dc138 <DC138(at)diplomaticcorp.com ([email]DC138(at)diplomaticcorp.com[/email])>; Andrew Clarke <a_c_2bcool(at)hotmail.com ([email]a_c_2bcool(at)hotmail.com[/email])>; Bruce Quinn <coebq(at)yahoo.com ([email]coebq(at)yahoo.com[/email])>; Bruce Ray <raybrucea(at)aol.com ([email]raybrucea(at)aol.com[/email])>; Jason K <Githraine(at)yahoo.com ([email]Githraine(at)yahoo.com[/email])>; Nathan Deily <ndeily(at)yahoo.com ([email]ndeily(at)yahoo.com[/email])>; Samuel Smith <agenbite.lee(at)gmail.com ([email]agenbite.lee(at)gmail.com[/email])>; Steve Lytton <stevelytton(at)hotmail.com ([email]stevelytton(at)hotmail.com[/email])>
Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2008 3:18:48 PM
Subject: RE: DC138 Winter Of Our Discontent - Spring 2006 - Hard On Equipment
I can say "without a doubt that HL has NOT been sporadic and flip flopping all game and show proof"
: without a doubt that HL has NOT been sporadic and flip flopping all game and show proof :
There I accept your resignation.
-mike
PS...
However accepting that this is yet another statement not intended for the "truth" column in this game's tally of New Yorker verbiage, I'll assume it's more of that gibberish and you didnt intend for the words to arrange themselves into sentences when you spewed them out.
From: Rob Ackerley [mailto:rob_ackerley(at)yahoo.ca ([email]rob_ackerley(at)yahoo.ca[/email])]
Sent: Wed 3/19/2008 1:53 PM
To: Andrew Tanner
Cc: Michael Sims; Former Trout; dc138; Andrew Clarke; Bruce Quinn; Bruce Ray; Jason K; Nathan Deily; Samuel Smith; Steve Lytton
Subject: Re: DC138 Winter Of Our Discontent - Spring 2006 - Hard On Equipment
Andrew,
firstly I think you are thinking of the wrong foolproof plan as our communication when HL fudged it wasminimal long before my "easily manipulated" statement. And the funny thing about your declaration of my statements further solidifies my statement regarding HL. If there is anyone on this board than can say without a doubt that HL has NOT been sporadic and flip flopping all game and show proof then I will resign... right I guess I play on...
And if you accurately read what I wrote - not interpret what you want and how it suits you best - you will clearly see, and I quote "unless BC and Cali crack or Mexico makes immediate moves to flex some naval muscle in the Pacific, then the game is over." If those things happen then yes there is much to play for. But last seasons moves show Mexico edging more and more into the Caribbean and shows only the faint and probably staged movement north of a lone Cali fleet.
So like i said, and again I quote "another season or two on the current course..." and there won't be much left to discuss.
----- Original Message ----
From: Andrew Tanner <damienthryn(at)gmail.com ([email]damienthryn(at)gmail.com[/email])>
To: Rob Ackerley <rob_ackerley(at)yahoo.ca ([email]rob_ackerley(at)yahoo.ca[/email])>
Cc: Michael Sims <mike(at)southwall.com ([email]mike(at)southwall.com[/email])>; Former Trout <former.trout(at)gmail.com ([email]former.trout(at)gmail.com[/email])>; dc138 <DC138(at)diplomaticcorp.com ([email]DC138(at)diplomaticcorp.com[/email])>; Andrew Clarke <a_c_2bcool(at)hotmail.com ([email]a_c_2bcool(at)hotmail.com[/email])>; Bruce Quinn <coebq(at)yahoo.com ([email]coebq(at)yahoo.com[/email])>; Bruce Ray <raybrucea(at)aol.com ([email]raybrucea(at)aol.com[/email])>; Jason K <Githraine(at)yahoo.com ([email]Githraine(at)yahoo.com[/email])>; Nathan Deily <ndeily(at)yahoo.com ([email]ndeily(at)yahoo.com[/email])>; Samuel Smith <agenbite.lee(at)gmail.com ([email]agenbite.lee(at)gmail.com[/email])>; Steve Lytton <stevelytton(at)hotmail.com ([email]stevelytton(at)hotmail.com[/email])>
Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2008 1:30:30 PM
Subject: Re: DC138 Winter Of Our Discontent - Spring 2006 - Hard On Equipment
Just to set the record straight Rob (in case you or anyone else is interested) - the HL 'fudge' of the foolproof plan came at least in part due to my instigation - I thought he might be interested to know that you thought of him as being (I quote) "easily manipulated" and passed along those words of yours.
I have to admit, once I found that you viewed your relationship with your allies as one of mere manipulation, I lost interest in any long term relationship with you, even if that meant risking HL and Quebec combining to hit me in the future.
Frankly I wonder why Florida still sticks by you, and how manipulable you think he is.
That all being said, I don't see how this game is at the point of being proposed as a BC/Cali draw, when there's an alive and powerful Mexico and Florida that could easily contest that draw. And nothing says Cali or Florida couldn't pursue a solo venture. There's a lot of game left, methinks, and I'm sure there's plenty of chance that I'll also enjoy the feeling of clinging to a last few provinces (Artic Pirates Ho!) at some point...
And I hope you'll enjoy that feeling as well, before the end.
Andrew
On Wed, Mar 19, 2008 at 12:08 PM, Rob Ackerley <rob_ackerley(at)yahoo.ca ([email]rob_ackerley(at)yahoo.ca[/email])> wrote:
[quote:c0acf6a571]
Aw Sims... in this game there was no disconnect between my words and my orders to anyone until HL decided to fudge a foolproof (or so I thought) plan to take MON and QUE from you. And not since I sought retribtution for his actions has there been disconnect. Twice HL screwed me since (justifably) and for several turns BC has spoken great things towards peace in the NE, yet his rush of units to the region paint an entirely contrasting picture.
You're just mad and upset that you were jumped on first - before you got yourself established enough to turn on HL or I. I'm just mad because I had too much confidence in the compotence of HL. I put too much trust in BC when clearly he didn't deserve any, and at present you are just an extension of him.
The fact of the matter is HL will lose his centers before he gains anything significant from me. Your in a position to lose both your SC's this turn and surprisingly even after my misorder, I am not in terrible position in the short term.
In the long term, unless BC and Cali crack or Mexico makes immediate moves to flex some naval muscle in the Pacific, then the game is over. Not one to throw in the towel, but another season or two on the current course and our little love triangle in the NE will be a distant thought.
Rob
----- Original Message ----
From: Michael Sims <mike(at)southwall.com ([email]mike(at)southwall.com[/email])>
To: Rob Ackerley <rob_ackerley(at)yahoo.ca ([email]rob_ackerley(at)yahoo.ca[/email])>; Former Trout <former.trout(at)gmail.com ([email]former.trout(at)gmail.com[/email])>; dc138 <DC138(at)diplomaticcorp.com ([email]DC138(at)diplomaticcorp.com[/email])>
Cc: Andrew Clarke <a_c_2bcool(at)hotmail.com ([email]a_c_2bcool(at)hotmail.com[/email])>; Andrew Tanner <damienthryn(at)gmail.com ([email]damienthryn(at)gmail.com[/email])>; Bruce Quinn <coebq(at)yahoo.com ([email]coebq(at)yahoo.com[/email])>; Bruce Ray <raybrucea(at)aol.com ([email]raybrucea(at)aol.com[/email])>; Jason K <Githraine(at)yahoo.com ([email]Githraine(at)yahoo.com[/email])>; Nathan Deily <ndeily(at)yahoo.com ([email]ndeily(at)yahoo.com[/email])>; Samuel Smith <agenbite.lee(at)gmail.com ([email]agenbite.lee(at)gmail.com[/email])>; Steve Lytton <stevelytton(at)hotmail.com ([email]stevelytton(at)hotmail.com[/email])>
Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2008 12:13:49 PM
Subject: RE: DC138 Winter Of Our Discontent - Spring 2006 - Hard On Equipment
Ya know if you'd stop dropping your front line units maybe you could stop those huge empires in the west. I'm sure you'll keep going at me tho, the little guy with two measly fleets just trying to stay alive, and Cali/BC will keep expanding. But of course you prefer me as your enemy, you've made that clear.
guess I have swallowed my words eh Sims
I didn't know you used words. Based on the complete disconnect between what you've said this game and what you've ordered, I figured you were just speaking gibberish.
Fuck... Fuck.... Fuckitty Fuck Fuck Fuck!!!
…pretty much confirms that.
From: Rob Ackerley [mailto:rob_ackerley(at)yahoo.ca ([email]rob_ackerley(at)yahoo.ca[/email])]
Sent: Saturday, March 15, 2008 12:37 PM
To: Former Trout; dc138
Cc: Andrew Clarke; Andrew Tanner; Bruce Quinn; Bruce Ray; Jason K; Michael Sims ; Nathan Deily; Samuel Smith; Steve Lytton
Subject: Re: DC138 Winter Of Our Discontent - Spring 2006 - Hard On Equipment
Fucking coasts... Fucking internet troubles... Fuck... Fuck.... Fuckitty Fuck Fuck Fuck!!!
NY/BC joint victory proposed...
You Got luckly this time Sims... Net problems kept me from checking my orders thoroughly... Fucking 3rd world inter-fucking-net... anyways... guess I have swallowed my words eh Sims... Hopefully, my stretch of 3 days without net will end today... too little too late for this game though...
Oh well... It doesn't matter much anyway....
----- Original Message ----
From: Former Trout <former.trout(at)gmail.com ([email]former.trout(at)gmail.com[/email])>
To: dc138 <DC138(at)diplomaticcorp.com ([email]DC138(at)diplomaticcorp.com[/email])>
Cc: Andrew Clarke <a_c_2bcool(at)hotmail.com ([email]a_c_2bcool(at)hotmail.com[/email])>; Andrew Tanner <damienthryn(at)gmail.com ([email]damienthryn(at)gmail.com[/email])>; Bruce Quinn <coebq(at)yahoo.com ([email]coebq(at)yahoo.com[/email])>; Bruce Ray <raybrucea(at)aol.com ([email]raybrucea(at)aol.com[/email])>; Jason K <Githraine(at)yahoo.com ([email]Githraine(at)yahoo.com[/email])>; Mike Sims <mike(at)southwall.com ([email]mike(at)southwall.com[/email])>; Nathan Deily < ndeily(at)yahoo.com ([email]ndeily(at)yahoo.com[/email]) >; Rob Ackerley <rob_ackerley(at)yahoo.ca ([email]rob_ackerley(at)yahoo.ca[/email])>; Samuel Smith <agenbite.lee(at)gmail.com ([email]agenbite.lee(at)gmail.com[/email])>; Steve Lytton <stevelytton(at)hotmail.com ([email]stevelytton(at)hotmail.com[/email])>
Sent: Friday, March 14, 2008 8:43:52 PM
Subject: DC138 Winter Of Our Discontent - Spring 2006 - Hard On Equipment
Our sage guru of all guru-ness plucks this from his Spring 2006 Fortune Cookie: You will soon be more aware of your growing awareness.
Course, we're all aware of hind-sight. Mexico puts on an eye-patch and peg-leg, moving into Carribean waters. New York continues to struggle against the wrath of the previously-stabbed and the weather channels split in disagreement over the coming Canadian cold front or Sunny Californian glow...
One retreat required after all of that - the New York fleet in the Gulf of St Lawrence finds itself finding a new port. Either Newfoundland or Quebec , the American sailors will soon find themselves in a land with strange-speaking people. Deadline for the Summer 2006 retreat will be set for Sunday, March 16th (11:59 PM GMT).
Cheers all. Please just let me know if you spot any mistakes.
Trout
DC-138
A Diplomaticcorp Game
Fall of the American Empire 4 Variant
Game Started:
Current Turn:
Spring 2006
Next Deadline:
Summer 2006 Retreats
Sunday, March 16th (11:59 PM GMT)
The Rowdy Cast
British Columbia
Andrew Tanner
damienthryn AT gmail DOT com
California
Bruce Ray
Raybrucea AT aol DOT com
Cuba
Jason K.
Githraine AT yahoo DOT com
Florida
Lee Moore
agenbite DOT lee AT gmail DOT com
Heartland
Andy Ski
a_c_2bcool AT hotmail DOT com
Mexico
Bruce Quinn
coebq AT yahoo DOT com
New York
Rob Ackerley
rob_ackerley AT yahoo DOT ca
Peru
Alex Schmidt
wecanworkthisout AT yahoo DOT com
Quebec
Mike Sims
mike AT southwall DOT com
Texas
Nathan Deily
nedily AT yahoo DOT com
Humble GM:
Former Trout
former DOT trout AT gmail DOT com
CURRENT SEASON:
SPRING 2006 ORDERS:
BRITISH COLUMBIA :
F MPO H
OK
F Van - Anc
OK
F Anc - ARO
OK
F Gre - NAO
[BOUNCE with NAO 1:1]
F SOL s ( Quebec ) F NSC - GSL
OK
A Min s (HL) A Chi-Mil
VOID (No Such Order)
A Won s (HL) A Ont
OK
A Man - Non
OK
A Non - Abi
OK
A Mon - Bea
OK
CALIFORNIA :
North Pacific - WCO (West Coast?)
OK
Baja - Gulf of California
[BOUNCE with GUA 1:1]
Oklahoma - Missouri
OK
Kansas s Oklahoma - Missouri
OK
Nebraska s Oklahoma - Missouri
OK
San Antonio - Houston
[BOUNCE with HOU 2:2]
Dallas s San Antonio - Houston
OK
West Texas s Dallas
OK
New Mexico s Dallas
OK
Arizona - Colorado
OK
CUBA :
A Bogota - Vichada
OK
F Cali (nc) - South Caribbean Sea
[BOUNCE with WES 1:1]
F East Caribbean Sea - Venezuela
OK
FLORIDA :
A Hou holds
OK
A in Lou supports A in Hou holding
OK
A Ark holds
OK
A Ten supports A Ark holding
OK
A Dos supports A Ark Holding
OK
A Geo supports A Ten supporting A Ark
OK
A Hav to Cam
OK
F Mia to Sof
OK
F Sof to GoM
OK
F Kin to ECS
OK
F Les supports F Kin to ECS
OK
F WeS to Scs
[BOUNCE with CAL 1:1]
HEARTLAND:
A Chicago - Indiana
[BOUNCE with IND 1:1]
A Milwaukee - Upper Peninsula
[BOUNCE with MIC 1:1]
A Missouri - Kentucky
OK
A Ontario Supports A Montreal
VOID (Unit Ordered To Move)
MEXICO :
A Pot - Mex
OK
F Gua - GCa
[BOUNCE with BAJ 1:1]
F Ver - GoC
OK
F Gut - CoM
OK
F GoF - CoB
OK
A Nic holds
OK
A Yuc holds
OK
A NLe holds
OK
F Pan - GMo
OK
F Lima - Gal
OK
NEW YORK :
A Beauce - Gaspesie
OK
F Gulf of St-Lawrence - New Brunswick (sc)
VOID [DISLODGED by NSC 2:1]
A Indiana Supports A Tennessee - Kentucky
[CUT by CHI]
F Massachusetts Bay Supports F Gulf of St-Lawrence - New Brunswick (sc)
VOID
A Michigan - Upper Peninsula
[BOUNCE with MIL 1:1]
F North Atlantic Ocean - Nova Scotia
[BOUNCE with NBR 1:1]
A New York State - Ontario
[BOUNCE with ONT 1:2]
QUEBEC :
F NSc-GSL
OK
F NBr/nc-NSc
[BOUNCE with NAO 1:1]
SUMMER 2006 RETREATS:
New York F Gulf of St-Lawrence may retreat to Nfl, Lab, Cot, Que or OTB
UNIT / SUPPLY CENTER BREAKDOWN
------------------------------
BRITISH COLUMBIA :
10 Supply Centers - Anc, Van, Cgy, Was, Haw,
Man, Min, Ung, Gre, Mon
5 Armies - Min, Bea, Abi, Won, Non
5 Fleets - Mpo, Sol, Gre, Aro, Anc
CALIFORNIA :
10 Supply Centers - Sfr, Los, Sdi, Ore , Ari , Col ,
Chh , Kan , San, Dal
8 Armies - Mis, Dal, Wte, San, Kan , Neb , Nme , Col
2 Fleets - Baj, Wco
CUBA :
3 Supply Centers - Ven , Cal , Bog
1 Army - Vic
2 Fleets - Cal(nc), Ven
FLORIDA :
12 Supply Centers - Jac, Tam, Mia, Ten, Geo, Nca,
Lou, Hou, Hol, Dom, Hav, Kin
7 Armies - Ten, Hou , Ark , Lou, Cam , Geo, Dso
5 Fleets - Les, Wcs, Ecs, Gom, Sof
HEARTLAND:
4 Supply Centers - Mil, Mis, Chi, Ont
4 Armies - Chi, Ont, Ken, Mil
0 Fleets -
MEXICO :
10 Supply Centers - Gua, Mex, Ver, Gut, Dur, Nle,
Nic, Lim, Pan, Yuc
4 Armies - Nic, Mex, Nle, Yuc
6 Fleets - Cob, Gal, Gmo, Com, Goc, Gua
NEW YORK :
7 Supply Centers - Nyc, Nje, Phi, Mas, Ohi, Wdc,
Mic
4 Armies - Bea, Mic, Ind , Nys
3 Fleets - Mab, [Gsl], Nao
QUEBEC :
2 Supply Centers - Que, Nsc
0 Armies -
2 Fleets - Gsl, Nbr(nc)
TEXAS - ELIMINATED 2004
PERU - ELIMINATED 2005
NEXT DEADLINE: SUMMER 2006 RETREATS DUE SUNDAY, MARCH 16TH (11:59 PM GMT)!!
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| DC138 Winter Of Our Discontent - Spring 2006 - Har... - test_gm (Sep 13, 2007, 12:00 am) |
Ack! Political insults! Curses, I thought I'd left ye behind for good at Berkeley...ah well, if we be indulging, here goes:
All whom I dislike, hear me and tremble! For I name thee mother-goat loving imperialist pigdog capital pillaging robber-baronlike infidelic scum! (spoken in a distinctly farsi-scottish brogue hybrid for best effect.)
Can I heckle over typos if the verbiage isn't in play? Though 'pitty' rather strikes me as a dead useful word, were it to be invented. Though the rules regarding its use escape me, but I leave that to the Webster people.
On Wed, Mar 19, 2008 at 2:51 PM, Former Trout <former.trout(at)gmail.com ([email]former.trout(at)gmail.com[/email])> wrote:
Oy!!
Due to the socialist commie left-wing leanings of the GM, please refrain from any disparagement based on political affiliation.
Yes, I vote NDP!
Trout
On Wed, Mar 19, 2008 at 3:42 PM, Rob Ackerley <rob_ackerley(at)yahoo.ca ([email]rob_ackerley(at)yahoo.ca[/email])> wrote:
[quote:c34289840b] Sims... forever witty aren't you.
I find it comical to be heckled over my verbiage by you. Pitty you find it necessary to resort to mud slinging techniques like this. You must be a Democrat.
----- Original Message ----
From: Michael Sims <mike(at)southwall.com ([email]mike(at)southwall.com[/email])>
To: Rob Ackerley <rob_ackerley(at)yahoo.ca ([email]rob_ackerley(at)yahoo.ca[/email])>; Andrew Tanner <damienthryn(at)gmail.com ([email]damienthryn(at)gmail.com[/email])>
Cc: Former Trout <former.trout(at)gmail.com ([email]former.trout(at)gmail.com[/email])>; dc138 <DC138(at)diplomaticcorp.com ([email]DC138(at)diplomaticcorp.com[/email])>; Andrew Clarke <a_c_2bcool(at)hotmail.com ([email]a_c_2bcool(at)hotmail.com[/email])>; Bruce Quinn <coebq(at)yahoo.com ([email]coebq(at)yahoo.com[/email])>; Bruce Ray <raybrucea(at)aol.com ([email]raybrucea(at)aol.com[/email])>; Jason K <Githraine(at)yahoo.com ([email]Githraine(at)yahoo.com[/email])>; Nathan Deily <ndeily(at)yahoo.com ([email]ndeily(at)yahoo.com[/email])>; Samuel Smith <agenbite.lee(at)gmail.com ([email]agenbite.lee(at)gmail.com[/email])>; Steve Lytton <stevelytton(at)hotmail.com ([email]stevelytton(at)hotmail.com[/email])>
Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2008 3:18:48 PM
Subject: RE: DC138 Winter Of Our Discontent - Spring 2006 - Hard On Equipment
I can say "without a doubt that HL has NOT been sporadic and flip flopping all game and show proof"
: without a doubt that HL has NOT been sporadic and flip flopping all game and show proof :
There I accept your resignation.
-mike
PS...
However accepting that this is yet another statement not intended for the "truth" column in this game's tally of New Yorker verbiage, I'll assume it's more of that gibberish and you didnt intend for the words to arrange themselves into sentences when you spewed them out.
From: Rob Ackerley [mailto:rob_ackerley(at)yahoo.ca ([email]rob_ackerley(at)yahoo.ca[/email])]
Sent: Wed 3/19/2008 1:53 PM
To: Andrew Tanner
Cc: Michael Sims; Former Trout; dc138; Andrew Clarke; Bruce Quinn; Bruce Ray; Jason K; Nathan Deily; Samuel Smith; Steve Lytton
Subject: Re: DC138 Winter Of Our Discontent - Spring 2006 - Hard On Equipment
Andrew,
firstly I think you are thinking of the wrong foolproof plan as our communication when HL fudged it wasminimal long before my "easily manipulated" statement. And the funny thing about your declaration of my statements further solidifies my statement regarding HL. If there is anyone on this board than can say without a doubt that HL has NOT been sporadic and flip flopping all game and show proof then I will resign... right I guess I play on...
And if you accurately read what I wrote - not interpret what you want and how it suits you best - you will clearly see, and I quote "unless BC and Cali crack or Mexico makes immediate moves to flex some naval muscle in the Pacific, then the game is over." If those things happen then yes there is much to play for. But last seasons moves show Mexico edging more and more into the Caribbean and shows only the faint and probably staged movement north of a lone Cali fleet.
So like i said, and again I quote "another season or two on the current course..." and there won't be much left to discuss.
----- Original Message ----
From: Andrew Tanner <damienthryn(at)gmail.com ([email]damienthryn(at)gmail.com[/email])>
To: Rob Ackerley <rob_ackerley(at)yahoo.ca ([email]rob_ackerley(at)yahoo.ca[/email])>
Cc: Michael Sims <mike(at)southwall.com ([email]mike(at)southwall.com[/email])>; Former Trout <former.trout(at)gmail.com ([email]former.trout(at)gmail.com[/email])>; dc138 <DC138(at)diplomaticcorp.com ([email]DC138(at)diplomaticcorp.com[/email])>; Andrew Clarke <a_c_2bcool(at)hotmail.com ([email]a_c_2bcool(at)hotmail.com[/email])>; Bruce Quinn <coebq(at)yahoo.com ([email]coebq(at)yahoo.com[/email])>; Bruce Ray <raybrucea(at)aol.com ([email]raybrucea(at)aol.com[/email])>; Jason K <Githraine(at)yahoo.com ([email]Githraine(at)yahoo.com[/email])>; Nathan Deily <ndeily(at)yahoo.com ([email]ndeily(at)yahoo.com[/email])>; Samuel Smith <agenbite.lee(at)gmail.com ([email]agenbite.lee(at)gmail.com[/email])>; Steve Lytton <stevelytton(at)hotmail.com ([email]stevelytton(at)hotmail.com[/email])>
Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2008 1:30:30 PM
Subject: Re: DC138 Winter Of Our Discontent - Spring 2006 - Hard On Equipment
Just to set the record straight Rob (in case you or anyone else is interested) - the HL 'fudge' of the foolproof plan came at least in part due to my instigation - I thought he might be interested to know that you thought of him as being (I quote) "easily manipulated" and passed along those words of yours.
I have to admit, once I found that you viewed your relationship with your allies as one of mere manipulation, I lost interest in any long term relationship with you, even if that meant risking HL and Quebec combining to hit me in the future.
Frankly I wonder why Florida still sticks by you, and how manipulable you think he is.
That all being said, I don't see how this game is at the point of being proposed as a BC/Cali draw, when there's an alive and powerful Mexico and Florida that could easily contest that draw. And nothing says Cali or Florida couldn't pursue a solo venture. There's a lot of game left, methinks, and I'm sure there's plenty of chance that I'll also enjoy the feeling of clinging to a last few provinces (Artic Pirates Ho!) at some point...
And I hope you'll enjoy that feeling as well, before the end.
Andrew
On Wed, Mar 19, 2008 at 12:08 PM, Rob Ackerley <rob_ackerley(at)yahoo.ca ([email]rob_ackerley(at)yahoo.ca[/email])> wrote:
[quote:c34289840b]
Aw Sims... in this game there was no disconnect between my words and my orders to anyone until HL decided to fudge a foolproof (or so I thought) plan to take MON and QUE from you. And not since I sought retribtution for his actions has there been disconnect. Twice HL screwed me since (justifably) and for several turns BC has spoken great things towards peace in the NE, yet his rush of units to the region paint an entirely contrasting picture.
You're just mad and upset that you were jumped on first - before you got yourself established enough to turn on HL or I. I'm just mad because I had too much confidence in the compotence of HL. I put too much trust in BC when clearly he didn't deserve any, and at present you are just an extension of him.
The fact of the matter is HL will lose his centers before he gains anything significant from me. Your in a position to lose both your SC's this turn and surprisingly even after my misorder, I am not in terrible position in the short term.
In the long term, unless BC and Cali crack or Mexico makes immediate moves to flex some naval muscle in the Pacific, then the game is over. Not one to throw in the towel, but another season or two on the current course and our little love triangle in the NE will be a distant thought.
Rob
----- Original Message ----
From: Michael Sims <mike(at)southwall.com ([email]mike(at)southwall.com[/email])>
To: Rob Ackerley <rob_ackerley(at)yahoo.ca ([email]rob_ackerley(at)yahoo.ca[/email])>; Former Trout <former.trout(at)gmail.com ([email]former.trout(at)gmail.com[/email])>; dc138 <DC138(at)diplomaticcorp.com ([email]DC138(at)diplomaticcorp.com[/email])>
Cc: Andrew Clarke <a_c_2bcool(at)hotmail.com ([email]a_c_2bcool(at)hotmail.com[/email])>; Andrew Tanner <damienthryn(at)gmail.com ([email]damienthryn(at)gmail.com[/email])>; Bruce Quinn <coebq(at)yahoo.com ([email]coebq(at)yahoo.com[/email])>; Bruce Ray <raybrucea(at)aol.com ([email]raybrucea(at)aol.com[/email])>; Jason K <Githraine(at)yahoo.com ([email]Githraine(at)yahoo.com[/email])>; Nathan Deily <ndeily(at)yahoo.com ([email]ndeily(at)yahoo.com[/email])>; Samuel Smith <agenbite.lee(at)gmail.com ([email]agenbite.lee(at)gmail.com[/email])>; Steve Lytton <stevelytton(at)hotmail.com ([email]stevelytton(at)hotmail.com[/email])>
Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2008 12:13:49 PM
Subject: RE: DC138 Winter Of Our Discontent - Spring 2006 - Hard On Equipment
Ya know if you'd stop dropping your front line units maybe you could stop those huge empires in the west. I'm sure you'll keep going at me tho, the little guy with two measly fleets just trying to stay alive, and Cali/BC will keep expanding. But of course you prefer me as your enemy, you've made that clear.
guess I have swallowed my words eh Sims
I didn't know you used words. Based on the complete disconnect between what you've said this game and what you've ordered, I figured you were just speaking gibberish.
Fuck... Fuck.... Fuckitty Fuck Fuck Fuck!!!
…pretty much confirms that.
From: Rob Ackerley [mailto:rob_ackerley(at)yahoo.ca ([email]rob_ackerley(at)yahoo.ca[/email])]
Sent: Saturday, March 15, 2008 12:37 PM
To: Former Trout; dc138
Cc: Andrew Clarke; Andrew Tanner; Bruce Quinn; Bruce Ray; Jason K; Michael Sims ; Nathan Deily; Samuel Smith; Steve Lytton
Subject: Re: DC138 Winter Of Our Discontent - Spring 2006 - Hard On Equipment
Fucking coasts... Fucking internet troubles... Fuck... Fuck.... Fuckitty Fuck Fuck Fuck!!!
NY/BC joint victory proposed...
You Got luckly this time Sims... Net problems kept me from checking my orders thoroughly... Fucking 3rd world inter-fucking-net... anyways... guess I have swallowed my words eh Sims... Hopefully, my stretch of 3 days without net will end today... too little too late for this game though...
Oh well... It doesn't matter much anyway....
----- Original Message ----
From: Former Trout <former.trout(at)gmail.com ([email]former.trout(at)gmail.com[/email])>
To: dc138 <DC138(at)diplomaticcorp.com ([email]DC138(at)diplomaticcorp.com[/email])>
Cc: Andrew Clarke <a_c_2bcool(at)hotmail.com ([email]a_c_2bcool(at)hotmail.com[/email])>; Andrew Tanner <damienthryn(at)gmail.com ([email]damienthryn(at)gmail.com[/email])>; Bruce Quinn <coebq(at)yahoo.com ([email]coebq(at)yahoo.com[/email])>; Bruce Ray <raybrucea(at)aol.com ([email]raybrucea(at)aol.com[/email])>; Jason K <Githraine(at)yahoo.com ([email]Githraine(at)yahoo.com[/email])>; Mike Sims <mike(at)southwall.com ([email]mike(at)southwall.com[/email])>; Nathan Deily < ndeily(at)yahoo.com ([email]ndeily(at)yahoo.com[/email]) >; Rob Ackerley <rob_ackerley(at)yahoo.ca ([email]rob_ackerley(at)yahoo.ca[/email])>; Samuel Smith <agenbite.lee(at)gmail.com ([email]agenbite.lee(at)gmail.com[/email])>; Steve Lytton <stevelytton(at)hotmail.com ([email]stevelytton(at)hotmail.com[/email])>
Sent: Friday, March 14, 2008 8:43:52 PM
Subject: DC138 Winter Of Our Discontent - Spring 2006 - Hard On Equipment
Our sage guru of all guru-ness plucks this from his Spring 2006 Fortune Cookie: You will soon be more aware of your growing awareness.
Course, we're all aware of hind-sight. Mexico puts on an eye-patch and peg-leg, moving into Carribean waters. New York continues to struggle against the wrath of the previously-stabbed and the weather channels split in disagreement over the coming Canadian cold front or Sunny Californian glow...
One retreat required after all of that - the New York fleet in the Gulf of St Lawrence finds itself finding a new port. Either Newfoundland or Quebec , the American sailors will soon find themselves in a land with strange-speaking people. Deadline for the Summer 2006 retreat will be set for Sunday, March 16th (11:59 PM GMT).
Cheers all. Please just let me know if you spot any mistakes.
Trout
DC-138
A Diplomaticcorp Game
Fall of the American Empire 4 Variant
Game Started:
Current Turn:
Spring 2006
Next Deadline:
Summer 2006 Retreats
Sunday, March 16th (11:59 PM GMT)
The Rowdy Cast
British Columbia
Andrew Tanner
damienthryn AT gmail DOT com
California
Bruce Ray
Raybrucea AT aol DOT com
Cuba
Jason K.
Githraine AT yahoo DOT com
Florida
Lee Moore
agenbite DOT lee AT gmail DOT com
Heartland
Andy Ski
a_c_2bcool AT hotmail DOT com
Mexico
Bruce Quinn
coebq AT yahoo DOT com
New York
Rob Ackerley
rob_ackerley AT yahoo DOT ca
Peru
Alex Schmidt
wecanworkthisout AT yahoo DOT com
Quebec
Mike Sims
mike AT southwall DOT com
Texas
Nathan Deily
nedily AT yahoo DOT com
Humble GM:
Former Trout
former DOT trout AT gmail DOT com
CURRENT SEASON:
SPRING 2006 ORDERS:
BRITISH COLUMBIA :
F MPO H
OK
F Van - Anc
OK
F Anc - ARO
OK
F Gre - NAO
[BOUNCE with NAO 1:1]
F SOL s ( Quebec ) F NSC - GSL
OK
A Min s (HL) A Chi-Mil
VOID (No Such Order)
A Won s (HL) A Ont
OK
A Man - Non
OK
A Non - Abi
OK
A Mon - Bea
OK
CALIFORNIA :
North Pacific - WCO (West Coast?)
OK
Baja - Gulf of California
[BOUNCE with GUA 1:1]
Oklahoma - Missouri
OK
Kansas s Oklahoma - Missouri
OK
Nebraska s Oklahoma - Missouri
OK
San Antonio - Houston
[BOUNCE with HOU 2:2]
Dallas s San Antonio - Houston
OK
West Texas s Dallas
OK
New Mexico s Dallas
OK
Arizona - Colorado
OK
CUBA :
A Bogota - Vichada
OK
F Cali (nc) - South Caribbean Sea
[BOUNCE with WES 1:1]
F East Caribbean Sea - Venezuela
OK
FLORIDA :
A Hou holds
OK
A in Lou supports A in Hou holding
OK
A Ark holds
OK
A Ten supports A Ark holding
OK
A Dos supports A Ark Holding
OK
A Geo supports A Ten supporting A Ark
OK
A Hav to Cam
OK
F Mia to Sof
OK
F Sof to GoM
OK
F Kin to ECS
OK
F Les supports F Kin to ECS
OK
F WeS to Scs
[BOUNCE with CAL 1:1]
HEARTLAND:
A Chicago - Indiana
[BOUNCE with IND 1:1]
A Milwaukee - Upper Peninsula
[BOUNCE with MIC 1:1]
A Missouri - Kentucky
OK
A Ontario Supports A Montreal
VOID (Unit Ordered To Move)
MEXICO :
A Pot - Mex
OK
F Gua - GCa
[BOUNCE with BAJ 1:1]
F Ver - GoC
OK
F Gut - CoM
OK
F GoF - CoB
OK
A Nic holds
OK
A Yuc holds
OK
A NLe holds
OK
F Pan - GMo
OK
F Lima - Gal
OK
NEW YORK :
A Beauce - Gaspesie
OK
F Gulf of St-Lawrence - New Brunswick (sc)
VOID [DISLODGED by NSC 2:1]
A Indiana Supports A Tennessee - Kentucky
[CUT by CHI]
F Massachusetts Bay Supports F Gulf of St-Lawrence - New Brunswick (sc)
VOID
A Michigan - Upper Peninsula
[BOUNCE with MIL 1:1]
F North Atlantic Ocean - Nova Scotia
[BOUNCE with NBR 1:1]
A New York State - Ontario
[BOUNCE with ONT 1:2]
QUEBEC :
F NSc-GSL
OK
F NBr/nc-NSc
[BOUNCE with NAO 1:1]
SUMMER 2006 RETREATS:
New York F Gulf of St-Lawrence may retreat to Nfl, Lab, Cot, Que or OTB
UNIT / SUPPLY CENTER BREAKDOWN
------------------------------
BRITISH COLUMBIA :
10 Supply Centers - Anc, Van, Cgy, Was, Haw,
Man, Min, Ung, Gre, Mon
5 Armies - Min, Bea, Abi, Won, Non
5 Fleets - Mpo, Sol, Gre, Aro, Anc
CALIFORNIA :
10 Supply Centers - Sfr, Los, Sdi, Ore , Ari , Col ,
Chh , Kan , San, Dal
8 Armies - Mis, Dal, Wte, San, Kan , Neb , Nme , Col
2 Fleets - Baj, Wco
CUBA :
3 Supply Centers - Ven , Cal , Bog
1 Army - Vic
2 Fleets - Cal(nc), Ven
FLORIDA :
12 Supply Centers - Jac, Tam, Mia, Ten, Geo, Nca,
Lou, Hou, Hol, Dom, Hav, Kin
7 Armies - Ten, Hou , Ark , Lou, Cam , Geo, Dso
5 Fleets - Les, Wcs, Ecs, Gom, Sof
HEARTLAND:
4 Supply Centers - Mil, Mis, Chi, Ont
4 Armies - Chi, Ont, Ken, Mil
0 Fleets -
MEXICO :
10 Supply Centers - Gua, Mex, Ver, Gut, Dur, Nle,
Nic, Lim, Pan, Yuc
4 Armies - Nic, Mex, Nle, Yuc
6 Fleets - Cob, Gal, Gmo, Com, Goc, Gua
NEW YORK :
7 Supply Centers - Nyc, Nje, Phi, Mas, Ohi, Wdc,
Mic
4 Armies - Bea, Mic, Ind , Nys
3 Fleets - Mab, [Gsl], Nao
QUEBEC :
2 Supply Centers - Que, Nsc
0 Armies -
2 Fleets - Gsl, Nbr(nc)
TEXAS - ELIMINATED 2004
PERU - ELIMINATED 2005
NEXT DEADLINE: SUMMER 2006 RETREATS DUE SUNDAY, MARCH 16TH (11:59 PM GMT)!!
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[/quote:c34289840b][Reply] |
| DC138 Winter Of Our Discontent - Spring 2006 - Har... - test_gm (Sep 13, 2007, 12:00 am) |
Sims,
All in the perspective of the wronged. I have played this game long enough to know that a geographic situation like ours would not sustain a long term, successful 3 way alliance. In the same way a E/G/F alliance or a T/I/A alliance in Vanilla Dip cannot last. A wise friend of my tought me this valuable piece of advise (occasionally the hard way) in some FTF games. An ally is no longer an ally if they have a shot at 2 or more SC's. And in 8 years of actively playing this game I have found that theory to be true 95% of the time. Sooner or later our borders would have ended up establishing that exact status.
If you want to see whether I am capable of being a solid and secure ally, look at DC136 where I have worked with Germany from the start to both of our benefit. Germany unfortunately made a wrong guess one turn that hurt him significantly and is just climbing back up from that with the trusted help of yours truly. So yes it can be done. But more often than not, it falls apart.
Lastly before you go blaming me for my choice of adjustments, I suggest you look more at HL and him vacating his line and cooperating with BC dispite my continued support and petitioning to ensure he did not lose MIS to Cali 3 years ago. So don't point the finger on me for the advance of Cali and BC. The line that fell apart which will open the door for them was and is HL. Period. so cus him out too while you are putting the blame on me handing the game over to them. I did my level best to restore peace and support HL and he chose to side with BC. Now tell me who is handing the game over?
Perspective.
Rob
----- Original Message ----
From: Michael Sims <mike(at)southwall.com>
To: Rob Ackerley <rob_ackerley(at)yahoo.ca>; Former Trout <former.trout(at)gmail.com>; dc138 <DC138(at)diplomaticcorp.com>
Cc: Andrew Clarke <a_c_2bcool(at)hotmail.com>; Andrew Tanner <damienthryn(at)gmail.com>; Bruce Quinn <coebq(at)yahoo.com>; Bruce Ray <raybrucea(at)aol.com>; Jason K <Githraine(at)yahoo.com>; Nathan Deily <ndeily(at)yahoo.com>; Samuel Smith <agenbite.lee(at)gmail.com>; Steve Lytton <stevelytton(at)hotmail.com>
Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2008 3:38:05 PM
Subject: RE: DC138 Winter Of Our Discontent - Spring 2006 - Hard On Equipment
Please refrain from declaring my moods. I am not mad, or upset. Rather I've been enjoying the game since you (Rob) devoted an empire 4 times my size to eliminating me, and you have nothing to show for it... and in fact lost 2 centers last round. You're so worried about BC rounding that corner or me living to say "hah" that you are conceding the center of America to California and BC so as to ensure my demise. That is in a way the ultimate compliment that you are giving up your own game to take mine.
However in the same breath, you're bitching about how Cali and BC wont stab each other, when you're bailing on the center of the map in favor of retaining an army in Gas is just handing them more centers and growth w/o having to stab the other. You are feeding the monster that you're complaining about, while getting very unlucky in the battles agaisnt me.
"You're just mad and upset that you were jumped on first - before you got yourself established enough to turn on HL or I."
I think Andrew's comments are right on, and this edifies them. For had you (and Heartland) not stabbed our trio, we would be in the 3 power positions, and everyone else on the map would be encouraging us to stab the other. See this is where your logic falls apart, for you ASSUME that an alliance wont work, and that someone will stab it. However we can see that if players stick to it, then it works. You didnt give ours a chance. You basically stabbed, admittedly so that I couldnt stab you first, and anyone who approaches an alliance like that, will find themselves often alliance-less, facing those who are stronger, urging them disappointedly to stab the other.
"Your in a position to lose both your SC's this turn "
Are you proud of this? You've spent your whole game trying to elim one player, I've survived way longer than I should have, and you're coming up on the short end of the alliance stick after our trio had the best opening possible in this game. Andrew would be toast if you hadn't turned, and Heartland and myself would now be beating on the door of California (sorry Ray!). However, yes, I am in a position to lose my SC's, so kudos to you for a great start well squandered.
From: Rob Ackerley [mailto:rob_ackerley(at)yahoo.ca]
Sent: Wed 3/19/2008 12:08 PM
To: Michael Sims; Former Trout; dc138
Cc: Andrew Clarke; Andrew Tanner; Bruce Quinn; Bruce Ray; Jason K; Nathan Deily; Samuel Smith; Steve Lytton
Subject: Re: DC138 Winter Of Our Discontent - Spring 2006 - Hard On Equipment
Aw Sims... in this game there was no disconnect between my words and my orders to anyone until HL decided to fudge a foolproof (or so I thought) plan to take MON and QUE from you. And not since I sought retribtution for his actions has there been disconnect. Twice HL screwed me since (justifably) and for several turns BC has spoken great things towards peace in the NE, yet his rush of units to the region paint an entirely contrasting picture.
You're just mad and upset that you were jumped on first - before you got yourself established enough to turn on HL or I. I'm just mad because I had too much confidence in the compotence of HL. I put too much trust in BC when clearly he didn't deserve any, and at present you are just an extension of him.
The fact of the matter is HL will lose his centers before he gains anything significant from me. Your in a position to lose both your SC's this turn and surprisingly even after my misorder, I am not in terrible position in the short term.
In the long term, unless BC and Cali crack or Mexico makes immediate moves to flex some naval muscle in the Pacific, then the game is over. Not one to throw in the towel, but another season or two on the current course and our little love triangle in the NE will be a distant thought.
Rob
----- Original Message ----
From: Michael Sims <mike(at)southwall.com>
To: Rob Ackerley <rob_ackerley(at)yahoo.ca>; Former Trout <former.trout(at)gmail.com>; dc138 <DC138(at)diplomaticcorp.com>
Cc: Andrew Clarke <a_c_2bcool(at)hotmail.com>; Andrew Tanner <damienthryn(at)gmail.com>; Bruce Quinn <coebq(at)yahoo.com>; Bruce Ray <raybrucea(at)aol.com>; Jason K <Githraine(at)yahoo.com>; Nathan Deily <ndeily(at)yahoo.com>; Samuel Smith <agenbite.lee(at)gmail.com>; Steve Lytton <stevelytton(at)hotmail.com>
Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2008 12:13:49 PM
Subject: RE: DC138 Winter Of Our Discontent - Spring 2006 - Hard On Equipment
Ya know if you’d stop dropping your front line units maybe you could stop those huge empires in the west. I’m sure you’ll keep going at me tho, the little guy with two measly fleets just trying to stay alive, and Cali/BC will keep expanding. But of course you prefer me as your enemy, you’ve made that clear.
guess I have swallowed my words eh Sims
I didn’t know you used words. Based on the complete disconnect between what you’ve said this game and what you’ve ordered, I figured you were just speaking gibberish.
Fuck... Fuck.... Fuckitty Fuck Fuck Fuck!!!
…pretty much confirms that.
From: Rob Ackerley [mailto:rob_ackerley(at)yahoo.ca]
Sent: Saturday, March 15, 2008 12:37 PM
To: Former Trout; dc138
Cc: Andrew Clarke; Andrew Tanner; Bruce Quinn; Bruce Ray; Jason K; Michael Sims ; Nathan Deily; Samuel Smith; Steve Lytton
Subject: Re: DC138 Winter Of Our Discontent - Spring 2006 - Hard On Equipment
Fucking coasts... Fucking internet troubles... Fuck... Fuck.... Fuckitty Fuck Fuck Fuck!!!
NY/BC joint victory proposed...
You Got luckly this time Sims... Net problems kept me from checking my orders thoroughly... Fucking 3rd world inter-fucking-net... anyways... guess I have swallowed my words eh Sims... Hopefully, my stretch of 3 days without net will end today... too little too late for this game though...
Oh well... It doesn't matter much anyway....
----- Original Message ----
From: Former Trout <former.trout(at)gmail.com>
To: dc138 <DC138(at)diplomaticcorp.com>
Cc: Andrew Clarke <a_c_2bcool(at)hotmail.com>; Andrew Tanner <damienthryn(at)gmail.com>; Bruce Quinn <coebq(at)yahoo.com>; Bruce Ray <raybrucea(at)aol.com>; Jason K <Githraine(at)yahoo.com>; Mike Sims <mike(at)southwall.com>; Nathan Deily < ndeily(at)yahoo.com >; Rob Ackerley <rob_ackerley(at)yahoo.ca>; Samuel Smith <agenbite.lee(at)gmail.com>; Steve Lytton <stevelytton(at)hotmail.com>
Sent: Friday, March 14, 2008 8:43:52 PM
Subject: DC138 Winter Of Our Discontent - Spring 2006 - Hard On Equipment
Our sage guru of all guru-ness plucks this from his Spring 2006 Fortune Cookie: You will soon be more aware of your growing awareness.
Course, we're all aware of hind-sight. Mexico puts on an eye-patch and peg-leg, moving into Carribean waters. New York continues to struggle against the wrath of the previously-stabbed and the weather channels split in disagreement over the coming Canadian cold front or Sunny Californian glow...
One retreat required after all of that - the New York fleet in the Gulf of St Lawrence finds itself finding a new port. Either Newfoundland or Quebec , the American sailors will soon find themselves in a land with strange-speaking people. Deadline for the Summer 2006 retreat will be set for Sunday, March 16th (11:59 PM GMT).
Cheers all. Please just let me know if you spot any mistakes.
Trout
DC-138
A Diplomaticcorp Game
Fall of the American Empire 4 Variant
Game Started:
Current Turn:
Spring 2006
Next Deadline:
Summer 2006 Retreats
Sunday, March 16th (11:59 PM GMT)
The Rowdy Cast
British Columbia
Andrew Tanner
damienthryn AT gmail DOT com
California
Bruce Ray
Raybrucea AT aol DOT com
Cuba
Jason K.
Githraine AT yahoo DOT com
Florida
Lee Moore
agenbite DOT lee AT gmail DOT com
Heartland
Andy Ski
a_c_2bcool AT hotmail DOT com
Mexico
Bruce Quinn
coebq AT yahoo DOT com
New York
Rob Ackerley
rob_ackerley AT yahoo DOT ca
Peru
Alex Schmidt
wecanworkthisout AT yahoo DOT com
Quebec
Mike Sims
mike AT southwall DOT com
Texas
Nathan Deily
nedily AT yahoo DOT com
Humble GM:
Former Trout
former DOT trout AT gmail DOT com
CURRENT SEASON:
SPRING 2006 ORDERS:
BRITISH COLUMBIA :
F MPO H
OK
F Van - Anc
OK
F Anc - ARO
OK
F Gre - NAO
[BOUNCE with NAO 1:1]
F SOL s ( Quebec ) F NSC - GSL
OK
A Min s (HL) A Chi-Mil
VOID (No Such Order)
A Won s (HL) A Ont
OK
A Man - Non
OK
A Non - Abi
OK
A Mon - Bea
OK
CALIFORNIA :
North Pacific - WCO (West Coast?)
OK
Baja - Gulf of California
[BOUNCE with GUA 1:1]
Oklahoma - Missouri
OK
Kansas s Oklahoma - Missouri
OK
Nebraska s Oklahoma - Missouri
OK
San Antonio - Houston
[BOUNCE with HOU 2:2]
Dallas s San Antonio - Houston
OK
West Texas s Dallas
OK
New Mexico s Dallas
OK
Arizona - Colorado
OK
CUBA :
A Bogota - Vichada
OK
F Cali (nc) - South Caribbean Sea
[BOUNCE with WES 1:1]
F East Caribbean Sea - Venezuela
OK
FLORIDA :
A Hou holds
OK
A in Lou supports A in Hou holding
OK
A Ark holds
OK
A Ten supports A Ark holding
OK
A Dos supports A Ark Holding
OK
A Geo supports A Ten supporting A Ark
OK
A Hav to Cam
OK
F Mia to Sof
OK
F Sof to GoM
OK
F Kin to ECS
OK
F Les supports F Kin to ECS
OK
F WeS to Scs
[BOUNCE with CAL 1:1]
HEARTLAND:
A Chicago - Indiana
[BOUNCE with IND 1:1]
A Milwaukee - Upper Peninsula
[BOUNCE with MIC 1:1]
A Missouri - Kentucky
OK
A Ontario Supports A Montreal
VOID (Unit Ordered To Move)
MEXICO :
A Pot - Mex
OK
F Gua - GCa
[BOUNCE with BAJ 1:1]
F Ver - GoC
OK
F Gut - CoM
OK
F GoF - CoB
OK
A Nic holds
OK
A Yuc holds
OK
A NLe holds
OK
F Pan - GMo
OK
F Lima - Gal
OK
NEW YORK :
A Beauce - Gaspesie
OK
F Gulf of St-Lawrence - New Brunswick (sc)
VOID [DISLODGED by NSC 2:1]
A Indiana Supports A Tennessee - Kentucky
[CUT by CHI]
F Massachusetts Bay Supports F Gulf of St-Lawrence - New Brunswick (sc)
VOID
A Michigan - Upper Peninsula
[BOUNCE with MIL 1:1]
F North Atlantic Ocean - Nova Scotia
[BOUNCE with NBR 1:1]
A New York State - Ontario
[BOUNCE with ONT 1:2]
QUEBEC :
F NSc-GSL
OK
F NBr/nc-NSc
[BOUNCE with NAO 1:1]
SUMMER 2006 RETREATS:
New York F Gulf of St-Lawrence may retreat to Nfl, Lab, Cot, Que or OTB
UNIT / SUPPLY CENTER BREAKDOWN
------------------------------
BRITISH COLUMBIA :
10 Supply Centers - Anc, Van, Cgy, Was, Haw,
Man, Min, Ung, Gre, Mon
5 Armies - Min, Bea, Abi, Won, Non
5 Fleets - Mpo, Sol, Gre, Aro, Anc
CALIFORNIA :
10 Supply Centers - Sfr, Los, Sdi, Ore , Ari , Col ,
Chh , Kan , San, Dal
8 Armies - Mis, Dal, Wte, San, Kan , Neb , Nme , Col
2 Fleets - Baj, Wco
CUBA :
3 Supply Centers - Ven , Cal , Bog
1 Army - Vic
2 Fleets - Cal(nc), Ven
FLORIDA :
12 Supply Centers - Jac, Tam, Mia, Ten, Geo, Nca,
Lou, Hou, Hol, Dom, Hav, Kin
7 Armies - Ten, Hou , Ark , Lou, Cam , Geo, Dso
5 Fleets - Les, Wcs, Ecs, Gom, Sof
HEARTLAND:
4 Supply Centers - Mil, Mis, Chi, Ont
4 Armies - Chi, Ont, Ken, Mil
0 Fleets -
MEXICO :
10 Supply Centers - Gua, Mex, Ver, Gut, Dur, Nle,
Nic, Lim, Pan, Yuc
4 Armies - Nic, Mex, Nle, Yuc
6 Fleets - Cob, Gal, Gmo, Com, Goc, Gua
NEW YORK :
7 Supply Centers - Nyc, Nje, Phi, Mas, Ohi, Wdc,
Mic
4 Armies - Bea, Mic, Ind , Nys
3 Fleets - Mab, [Gsl], Nao
QUEBEC :
2 Supply Centers - Que, Nsc
0 Armies -
2 Fleets - Gsl, Nbr(nc)
TEXAS - ELIMINATED 2004
PERU - ELIMINATED 2005
NEXT DEADLINE: SUMMER 2006 RETREATS DUE SUNDAY, MARCH 16TH (11:59 PM GMT)!!
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| DC138 Winter Of Our Discontent - Spring 2006 - Har... - test_gm (Sep 13, 2007, 12:00 am) |
[Said tongue-in-cheek, for those who don't know me well enough yet]... =P
T.
On Wed, Mar 19, 2008 at 3:51 PM, Former Trout <former.trout(at)gmail.com ([email]former.trout(at)gmail.com[/email])> wrote:
Oy!!
Due to the socialist commie left-wing leanings of the GM, please refrain from any disparagement based on political affiliation.
Yes, I vote NDP!
Trout
On Wed, Mar 19, 2008 at 3:42 PM, Rob Ackerley <rob_ackerley(at)yahoo.ca ([email]rob_ackerley(at)yahoo.ca[/email])> wrote:
[quote:a704e6e39c] Sims... forever witty aren't you.
I find it comical to be heckled over my verbiage by you. Pitty you find it necessary to resort to mud slinging techniques like this. You must be a Democrat.
----- Original Message ----
From: Michael Sims <mike(at)southwall.com ([email]mike(at)southwall.com[/email])>
To: Rob Ackerley <rob_ackerley(at)yahoo.ca ([email]rob_ackerley(at)yahoo.ca[/email])>; Andrew Tanner <damienthryn(at)gmail.com ([email]damienthryn(at)gmail.com[/email])>
Cc: Former Trout <former.trout(at)gmail.com ([email]former.trout(at)gmail.com[/email])>; dc138 <DC138(at)diplomaticcorp.com ([email]DC138(at)diplomaticcorp.com[/email])>; Andrew Clarke <a_c_2bcool(at)hotmail.com ([email]a_c_2bcool(at)hotmail.com[/email])>; Bruce Quinn <coebq(at)yahoo.com ([email]coebq(at)yahoo.com[/email])>; Bruce Ray <raybrucea(at)aol.com ([email]raybrucea(at)aol.com[/email])>; Jason K <Githraine(at)yahoo.com ([email]Githraine(at)yahoo.com[/email])>; Nathan Deily <ndeily(at)yahoo.com ([email]ndeily(at)yahoo.com[/email])>; Samuel Smith <agenbite.lee(at)gmail.com ([email]agenbite.lee(at)gmail.com[/email])>; Steve Lytton <stevelytton(at)hotmail.com ([email]stevelytton(at)hotmail.com[/email])>
Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2008 3:18:48 PM
Subject: RE: DC138 Winter Of Our Discontent - Spring 2006 - Hard On Equipment
I can say "without a doubt that HL has NOT been sporadic and flip flopping all game and show proof"
: without a doubt that HL has NOT been sporadic and flip flopping all game and show proof :
There I accept your resignation.
-mike
PS...
However accepting that this is yet another statement not intended for the "truth" column in this game's tally of New Yorker verbiage, I'll assume it's more of that gibberish and you didnt intend for the words to arrange themselves into sentences when you spewed them out.
From: Rob Ackerley [mailto:rob_ackerley(at)yahoo.ca ([email]rob_ackerley(at)yahoo.ca[/email])]
Sent: Wed 3/19/2008 1:53 PM
To: Andrew Tanner
Cc: Michael Sims; Former Trout; dc138; Andrew Clarke; Bruce Quinn; Bruce Ray; Jason K; Nathan Deily; Samuel Smith; Steve Lytton
Subject: Re: DC138 Winter Of Our Discontent - Spring 2006 - Hard On Equipment
Andrew,
firstly I think you are thinking of the wrong foolproof plan as our communication when HL fudged it wasminimal long before my "easily manipulated" statement. And the funny thing about your declaration of my statements further solidifies my statement regarding HL. If there is anyone on this board than can say without a doubt that HL has NOT been sporadic and flip flopping all game and show proof then I will resign... right I guess I play on...
And if you accurately read what I wrote - not interpret what you want and how it suits you best - you will clearly see, and I quote "unless BC and Cali crack or Mexico makes immediate moves to flex some naval muscle in the Pacific, then the game is over." If those things happen then yes there is much to play for. But last seasons moves show Mexico edging more and more into the Caribbean and shows only the faint and probably staged movement north of a lone Cali fleet.
So like i said, and again I quote "another season or two on the current course..." and there won't be much left to discuss.
----- Original Message ----
From: Andrew Tanner <damienthryn(at)gmail.com ([email]damienthryn(at)gmail.com[/email])>
To: Rob Ackerley <rob_ackerley(at)yahoo.ca ([email]rob_ackerley(at)yahoo.ca[/email])>
Cc: Michael Sims <mike(at)southwall.com ([email]mike(at)southwall.com[/email])>; Former Trout <former.trout(at)gmail.com ([email]former.trout(at)gmail.com[/email])>; dc138 <DC138(at)diplomaticcorp.com ([email]DC138(at)diplomaticcorp.com[/email])>; Andrew Clarke <a_c_2bcool(at)hotmail.com ([email]a_c_2bcool(at)hotmail.com[/email])>; Bruce Quinn <coebq(at)yahoo.com ([email]coebq(at)yahoo.com[/email])>; Bruce Ray <raybrucea(at)aol.com ([email]raybrucea(at)aol.com[/email])>; Jason K <Githraine(at)yahoo.com ([email]Githraine(at)yahoo.com[/email])>; Nathan Deily <ndeily(at)yahoo.com ([email]ndeily(at)yahoo.com[/email])>; Samuel Smith <agenbite.lee(at)gmail.com ([email]agenbite.lee(at)gmail.com[/email])>; Steve Lytton <stevelytton(at)hotmail.com ([email]stevelytton(at)hotmail.com[/email])>
Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2008 1:30:30 PM
Subject: Re: DC138 Winter Of Our Discontent - Spring 2006 - Hard On Equipment
Just to set the record straight Rob (in case you or anyone else is interested) - the HL 'fudge' of the foolproof plan came at least in part due to my instigation - I thought he might be interested to know that you thought of him as being (I quote) "easily manipulated" and passed along those words of yours.
I have to admit, once I found that you viewed your relationship with your allies as one of mere manipulation, I lost interest in any long term relationship with you, even if that meant risking HL and Quebec combining to hit me in the future.
Frankly I wonder why Florida still sticks by you, and how manipulable you think he is.
That all being said, I don't see how this game is at the point of being proposed as a BC/Cali draw, when there's an alive and powerful Mexico and Florida that could easily contest that draw. And nothing says Cali or Florida couldn't pursue a solo venture. There's a lot of game left, methinks, and I'm sure there's plenty of chance that I'll also enjoy the feeling of clinging to a last few provinces (Artic Pirates Ho!) at some point...
And I hope you'll enjoy that feeling as well, before the end.
Andrew
On Wed, Mar 19, 2008 at 12:08 PM, Rob Ackerley <rob_ackerley(at)yahoo.ca ([email]rob_ackerley(at)yahoo.ca[/email])> wrote:
[quote:a704e6e39c]
Aw Sims... in this game there was no disconnect between my words and my orders to anyone until HL decided to fudge a foolproof (or so I thought) plan to take MON and QUE from you. And not since I sought retribtution for his actions has there been disconnect. Twice HL screwed me since (justifably) and for several turns BC has spoken great things towards peace in the NE, yet his rush of units to the region paint an entirely contrasting picture.
You're just mad and upset that you were jumped on first - before you got yourself established enough to turn on HL or I. I'm just mad because I had too much confidence in the compotence of HL. I put too much trust in BC when clearly he didn't deserve any, and at present you are just an extension of him.
The fact of the matter is HL will lose his centers before he gains anything significant from me. Your in a position to lose both your SC's this turn and surprisingly even after my misorder, I am not in terrible position in the short term.
In the long term, unless BC and Cali crack or Mexico makes immediate moves to flex some naval muscle in the Pacific, then the game is over. Not one to throw in the towel, but another season or two on the current course and our little love triangle in the NE will be a distant thought.
Rob
----- Original Message ----
From: Michael Sims <mike(at)southwall.com ([email]mike(at)southwall.com[/email])>
To: Rob Ackerley <rob_ackerley(at)yahoo.ca ([email]rob_ackerley(at)yahoo.ca[/email])>; Former Trout <former.trout(at)gmail.com ([email]former.trout(at)gmail.com[/email])>; dc138 <DC138(at)diplomaticcorp.com ([email]DC138(at)diplomaticcorp.com[/email])>
Cc: Andrew Clarke <a_c_2bcool(at)hotmail.com ([email]a_c_2bcool(at)hotmail.com[/email])>; Andrew Tanner <damienthryn(at)gmail.com ([email]damienthryn(at)gmail.com[/email])>; Bruce Quinn <coebq(at)yahoo.com ([email]coebq(at)yahoo.com[/email])>; Bruce Ray <raybrucea(at)aol.com ([email]raybrucea(at)aol.com[/email])>; Jason K <Githraine(at)yahoo.com ([email]Githraine(at)yahoo.com[/email])>; Nathan Deily <ndeily(at)yahoo.com ([email]ndeily(at)yahoo.com[/email])>; Samuel Smith <agenbite.lee(at)gmail.com ([email]agenbite.lee(at)gmail.com[/email])>; Steve Lytton <stevelytton(at)hotmail.com ([email]stevelytton(at)hotmail.com[/email])>
Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2008 12:13:49 PM
Subject: RE: DC138 Winter Of Our Discontent - Spring 2006 - Hard On Equipment
Ya know if you'd stop dropping your front line units maybe you could stop those huge empires in the west. I'm sure you'll keep going at me tho, the little guy with two measly fleets just trying to stay alive, and Cali/BC will keep expanding. But of course you prefer me as your enemy, you've made that clear.
guess I have swallowed my words eh Sims
I didn't know you used words. Based on the complete disconnect between what you've said this game and what you've ordered, I figured you were just speaking gibberish.
Fuck... Fuck.... Fuckitty Fuck Fuck Fuck!!!
…pretty much confirms that.
From: Rob Ackerley [mailto:rob_ackerley(at)yahoo.ca ([email]rob_ackerley(at)yahoo.ca[/email])]
Sent: Saturday, March 15, 2008 12:37 PM
To: Former Trout; dc138
Cc: Andrew Clarke; Andrew Tanner; Bruce Quinn; Bruce Ray; Jason K; Michael Sims ; Nathan Deily; Samuel Smith; Steve Lytton
Subject: Re: DC138 Winter Of Our Discontent - Spring 2006 - Hard On Equipment
Fucking coasts... Fucking internet troubles... Fuck... Fuck.... Fuckitty Fuck Fuck Fuck!!!
NY/BC joint victory proposed...
You Got luckly this time Sims... Net problems kept me from checking my orders thoroughly... Fucking 3rd world inter-fucking-net... anyways... guess I have swallowed my words eh Sims... Hopefully, my stretch of 3 days without net will end today... too little too late for this game though...
Oh well... It doesn't matter much anyway....
----- Original Message ----
From: Former Trout <former.trout(at)gmail.com ([email]former.trout(at)gmail.com[/email])>
To: dc138 <DC138(at)diplomaticcorp.com ([email]DC138(at)diplomaticcorp.com[/email])>
Cc: Andrew Clarke <a_c_2bcool(at)hotmail.com ([email]a_c_2bcool(at)hotmail.com[/email])>; Andrew Tanner <damienthryn(at)gmail.com ([email]damienthryn(at)gmail.com[/email])>; Bruce Quinn <coebq(at)yahoo.com ([email]coebq(at)yahoo.com[/email])>; Bruce Ray <raybrucea(at)aol.com ([email]raybrucea(at)aol.com[/email])>; Jason K <Githraine(at)yahoo.com ([email]Githraine(at)yahoo.com[/email])>; Mike Sims <mike(at)southwall.com ([email]mike(at)southwall.com[/email])>; Nathan Deily < ndeily(at)yahoo.com ([email]ndeily(at)yahoo.com[/email]) >; Rob Ackerley <rob_ackerley(at)yahoo.ca ([email]rob_ackerley(at)yahoo.ca[/email])>; Samuel Smith <agenbite.lee(at)gmail.com ([email]agenbite.lee(at)gmail.com[/email])>; Steve Lytton <stevelytton(at)hotmail.com ([email]stevelytton(at)hotmail.com[/email])>
Sent: Friday, March 14, 2008 8:43:52 PM
Subject: DC138 Winter Of Our Discontent - Spring 2006 - Hard On Equipment
Our sage guru of all guru-ness plucks this from his Spring 2006 Fortune Cookie: You will soon be more aware of your growing awareness.
Course, we're all aware of hind-sight. Mexico puts on an eye-patch and peg-leg, moving into Carribean waters. New York continues to struggle against the wrath of the previously-stabbed and the weather channels split in disagreement over the coming Canadian cold front or Sunny Californian glow...
One retreat required after all of that - the New York fleet in the Gulf of St Lawrence finds itself finding a new port. Either Newfoundland or Quebec , the American sailors will soon find themselves in a land with strange-speaking people. Deadline for the Summer 2006 retreat will be set for Sunday, March 16th (11:59 PM GMT).
Cheers all. Please just let me know if you spot any mistakes.
Trout
DC-138
A Diplomaticcorp Game
Fall of the American Empire 4 Variant
Game Started:
Current Turn:
Spring 2006
Next Deadline:
Summer 2006 Retreats
Sunday, March 16th (11:59 PM GMT)
The Rowdy Cast
British Columbia
Andrew Tanner
damienthryn AT gmail DOT com
California
Bruce Ray
Raybrucea AT aol DOT com
Cuba
Jason K.
Githraine AT yahoo DOT com
Florida
Lee Moore
agenbite DOT lee AT gmail DOT com
Heartland
Andy Ski
a_c_2bcool AT hotmail DOT com
Mexico
Bruce Quinn
coebq AT yahoo DOT com
New York
Rob Ackerley
rob_ackerley AT yahoo DOT ca
Peru
Alex Schmidt
wecanworkthisout AT yahoo DOT com
Quebec
Mike Sims
mike AT southwall DOT com
Texas
Nathan Deily
nedily AT yahoo DOT com
Humble GM:
Former Trout
former DOT trout AT gmail DOT com
CURRENT SEASON:
SPRING 2006 ORDERS:
BRITISH COLUMBIA :
F MPO H
OK
F Van - Anc
OK
F Anc - ARO
OK
F Gre - NAO
[BOUNCE with NAO 1:1]
F SOL s ( Quebec ) F NSC - GSL
OK
A Min s (HL) A Chi-Mil
VOID (No Such Order)
A Won s (HL) A Ont
OK
A Man - Non
OK
A Non - Abi
OK
A Mon - Bea
OK
CALIFORNIA :
North Pacific - WCO (West Coast?)
OK
Baja - Gulf of California
[BOUNCE with GUA 1:1]
Oklahoma - Missouri
OK
Kansas s Oklahoma - Missouri
OK
Nebraska s Oklahoma - Missouri
OK
San Antonio - Houston
[BOUNCE with HOU 2:2]
Dallas s San Antonio - Houston
OK
West Texas s Dallas
OK
New Mexico s Dallas
OK
Arizona - Colorado
OK
CUBA :
A Bogota - Vichada
OK
F Cali (nc) - South Caribbean Sea
[BOUNCE with WES 1:1]
F East Caribbean Sea - Venezuela
OK
FLORIDA :
A Hou holds
OK
A in Lou supports A in Hou holding
OK
A Ark holds
OK
A Ten supports A Ark holding
OK
A Dos supports A Ark Holding
OK
A Geo supports A Ten supporting A Ark
OK
A Hav to Cam
OK
F Mia to Sof
OK
F Sof to GoM
OK
F Kin to ECS
OK
F Les supports F Kin to ECS
OK
F WeS to Scs
[BOUNCE with CAL 1:1]
HEARTLAND:
A Chicago - Indiana
[BOUNCE with IND 1:1]
A Milwaukee - Upper Peninsula
[BOUNCE with MIC 1:1]
A Missouri - Kentucky
OK
A Ontario Supports A Montreal
VOID (Unit Ordered To Move)
MEXICO :
A Pot - Mex
OK
F Gua - GCa
[BOUNCE with BAJ 1:1]
F Ver - GoC
OK
F Gut - CoM
OK
F GoF - CoB
OK
A Nic holds
OK
A Yuc holds
OK
A NLe holds
OK
F Pan - GMo
OK
F Lima - Gal
OK
NEW YORK :
A Beauce - Gaspesie
OK
F Gulf of St-Lawrence - New Brunswick (sc)
VOID [DISLODGED by NSC 2:1]
A Indiana Supports A Tennessee - Kentucky
[CUT by CHI]
F Massachusetts Bay Supports F Gulf of St-Lawrence - New Brunswick (sc)
VOID
A Michigan - Upper Peninsula
[BOUNCE with MIL 1:1]
F North Atlantic Ocean - Nova Scotia
[BOUNCE with NBR 1:1]
A New York State - Ontario
[BOUNCE with ONT 1:2]
QUEBEC :
F NSc-GSL
OK
F NBr/nc-NSc
[BOUNCE with NAO 1:1]
SUMMER 2006 RETREATS:
New York F Gulf of St-Lawrence may retreat to Nfl, Lab, Cot, Que or OTB
UNIT / SUPPLY CENTER BREAKDOWN
------------------------------
BRITISH COLUMBIA :
10 Supply Centers - Anc, Van, Cgy, Was, Haw,
Man, Min, Ung, Gre, Mon
5 Armies - Min, Bea, Abi, Won, Non
5 Fleets - Mpo, Sol, Gre, Aro, Anc
CALIFORNIA :
10 Supply Centers - Sfr, Los, Sdi, Ore , Ari , Col ,
Chh , Kan , San, Dal
8 Armies - Mis, Dal, Wte, San, Kan , Neb , Nme , Col
2 Fleets - Baj, Wco
CUBA :
3 Supply Centers - Ven , Cal , Bog
1 Army - Vic
2 Fleets - Cal(nc), Ven
FLORIDA :
12 Supply Centers - Jac, Tam, Mia, Ten, Geo, Nca,
Lou, Hou, Hol, Dom, Hav, Kin
7 Armies - Ten, Hou , Ark , Lou, Cam , Geo, Dso
5 Fleets - Les, Wcs, Ecs, Gom, Sof
HEARTLAND:
4 Supply Centers - Mil, Mis, Chi, Ont
4 Armies - Chi, Ont, Ken, Mil
0 Fleets -
MEXICO :
10 Supply Centers - Gua, Mex, Ver, Gut, Dur, Nle,
Nic, Lim, Pan, Yuc
4 Armies - Nic, Mex, Nle, Yuc
6 Fleets - Cob, Gal, Gmo, Com, Goc, Gua
NEW YORK :
7 Supply Centers - Nyc, Nje, Phi, Mas, Ohi, Wdc,
Mic
4 Armies - Bea, Mic, Ind , Nys
3 Fleets - Mab, [Gsl], Nao
QUEBEC :
2 Supply Centers - Que, Nsc
0 Armies -
2 Fleets - Gsl, Nbr(nc)
TEXAS - ELIMINATED 2004
PERU - ELIMINATED 2005
NEXT DEADLINE: SUMMER 2006 RETREATS DUE SUNDAY, MARCH 16TH (11:59 PM GMT)!!
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| DC138 Winter Of Our Discontent - Spring 2006 - Har... - test_gm (Sep 13, 2007, 12:00 am) |
Y'all are Nutz!
Florida has his Day of Pigs coming and Miami will rise as little Havana and then Cuba will rule the world!
Muahahahahahah!!!!!!!
----- Original Message ----
From: Rob Ackerley <rob_ackerley(at)yahoo.ca>
To: Michael Sims <mike(at)southwall.com>; Former Trout <former.trout(at)gmail.com>; dc138 <DC138(at)diplomaticcorp.com>
Cc: Andrew Clarke <a_c_2bcool(at)hotmail.com>; Andrew Tanner <damienthryn(at)gmail.com>; Bruce Quinn <coebq(at)yahoo.com>; Bruce Ray <raybrucea(at)aol.com>; Jason K <Githraine(at)yahoo.com>; Nathan Deily <ndeily(at)yahoo.com>; Samuel Smith <agenbite.lee(at)gmail.com>; Steve Lytton <stevelytton(at)hotmail.com>
Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2008 6:05:30 PM
Subject: Re: DC138 Winter Of Our Discontent - Spring 2006 - Hard On Equipment
Sims,
All in the perspective of the wronged. I have played this game long enough to know that a geographic situation like ours would not sustain a long term, successful 3 way alliance. In the same way a E/G/F alliance or a T/I/A alliance in Vanilla Dip cannot last. A wise friend of my tought me this valuable piece of advise (occasionally the hard way) in some FTF games. An ally is no longer an ally if they have a shot at 2 or more SC's. And in 8 years of actively playing this game I have found that theory to be true 95% of the time. Sooner or later our borders would have ended up establishing that exact status.
If you want to see whether I am capable of being a solid and secure ally, look at DC136 where I have worked with Germany from the start to both of our benefit. Germany unfortunately made a wrong guess one turn that hurt him significantly and is just climbing back up from that with the trusted help of yours truly. So yes it can be done. But more often than not, it falls apart.
Lastly before you go blaming me for my choice of adjustments, I suggest you look more at HL and him vacating his line and cooperating with BC dispite my continued support and petitioning to ensure he did not lose MIS to Cali 3 years ago. So don't point the finger on me for the advance of Cali and BC. The line that fell apart which will open the door for them was and is HL. Period. so cus him out too while you are putting the blame on me handing the game over to them. I did my level best to restore peace and support HL and he chose to side with BC. Now tell me who is handing the game over?
Perspective.
Rob
----- Original Message ----
From: Michael Sims <mike(at)southwall.com>
To: Rob Ackerley <rob_ackerley(at)yahoo.ca>; Former Trout <former.trout(at)gmail.com>; dc138 <DC138(at)diplomaticcorp.com>
Cc: Andrew Clarke <a_c_2bcool(at)hotmail.com>; Andrew Tanner <damienthryn(at)gmail.com>; Bruce Quinn <coebq(at)yahoo.com>; Bruce Ray <raybrucea(at)aol.com>; Jason K <Githraine(at)yahoo.com>; Nathan Deily <ndeily(at)yahoo.com>; Samuel Smith <agenbite.lee(at)gmail.com>; Steve Lytton <stevelytton(at)hotmail.com>
Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2008 3:38:05 PM
Subject: RE: DC138 Winter Of Our Discontent - Spring 2006 - Hard On Equipment
Please refrain from declaring my moods. I am not mad, or upset. Rather I've been enjoying the game since you (Rob) devoted an empire 4 times my size to eliminating me, and you have nothing to show for it... and in fact lost 2 centers last round. You're so worried about BC rounding that corner or me living to say "hah" that you are conceding the center of America to California and BC so as to ensure my demise. That is in a way the ultimate compliment that you are giving up your own game to take mine.
However in the same breath, you're bitching about how Cali and BC wont stab each other, when you're bailing on the center of the map in favor of retaining an army in Gas is just handing them more centers and growth w/o having to stab the other. You are feeding the monster that you're complaining about, while getting very unlucky in the battles agaisnt me.
"You're just mad and upset that you were jumped on first - before you got yourself established enough to turn on HL or I."
I think Andrew's comments are right on, and this edifies them. For had you (and Heartland) not stabbed our trio, we would be in the 3 power positions, and everyone else on the map would be encouraging us to stab the other. See this is where your logic falls apart, for you ASSUME that an alliance wont work, and that someone will stab it. However we can see that if players stick to it, then it works. You didnt give ours a chance. You basically stabbed, admittedly so that I couldnt stab you first, and anyone who approaches an alliance like that, will find themselves often alliance-less, facing those who are stronger, urging them disappointedly to stab the other.
"Your in a position to lose both your SC's this turn "
Are you proud of this? You've spent your whole game trying to elim one player, I've survived way longer than I should have, and you're coming up on the short end of the alliance stick after our trio had the best opening possible in this game. Andrew would be toast if you hadn't turned, and Heartland and myself would now be beating on the door of California (sorry Ray!). However, yes, I am in a position to lose my SC's, so kudos to you for a great start well squandered.
From: Rob Ackerley [mailto:rob_ackerley(at)yahoo.ca]
Sent: Wed 3/19/2008 12:08 PM
To: Michael Sims; Former Trout; dc138
Cc: Andrew Clarke; Andrew Tanner; Bruce Quinn; Bruce Ray; Jason K; Nathan Deily; Samuel Smith; Steve Lytton
Subject: Re: DC138 Winter Of Our Discontent - Spring 2006 - Hard On Equipment
Aw Sims... in this game there was no disconnect between my words and my orders to anyone until HL decided to fudge a foolproof (or so I thought) plan to take MON and QUE from you. And not since I sought retribtution for his actions has there been disconnect. Twice HL screwed me since (justifably) and for several turns BC has spoken great things towards peace in the NE, yet his rush of units to the region paint an entirely contrasting picture.
You're just mad and upset that you were jumped on first - before you got yourself established enough to turn on HL or I. I'm just mad because I had too much confidence in the compotence of HL. I put too much trust in BC when clearly he didn't deserve any, and at present you are just an extension of him.
The fact of the matter is HL will lose his centers before he gains anything significant from me. Your in a position to lose both your SC's this turn and surprisingly even after my misorder, I am not in terrible position in the short term.
In the long term, unless BC and Cali crack or Mexico makes immediate moves to flex some naval muscle in the Pacific, then the game is over. Not one to throw in the towel, but another season or two on the current course and our little love triangle in the NE will be a distant thought.
Rob
----- Original Message ----
From: Michael Sims <mike(at)southwall.com>
To: Rob Ackerley <rob_ackerley(at)yahoo.ca>; Former Trout <former.trout(at)gmail.com>; dc138 <DC138(at)diplomaticcorp.com>
Cc: Andrew Clarke <a_c_2bcool(at)hotmail.com>; Andrew Tanner <damienthryn(at)gmail.com>; Bruce Quinn <coebq(at)yahoo.com>; Bruce Ray <raybrucea(at)aol.com>; Jason K <Githraine(at)yahoo.com>; Nathan Deily <ndeily(at)yahoo.com>; Samuel Smith <agenbite.lee(at)gmail.com>; Steve Lytton <stevelytton(at)hotmail.com>
Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2008 12:13:49 PM
Subject: RE: DC138 Winter Of Our Discontent - Spring 2006 - Hard On Equipment
Ya know if you’d stop dropping your front line units maybe you could stop those huge empires in the west. I’m sure you’ll keep going at me tho, the little guy with two measly fleets just trying to stay alive, and Cali/BC will keep expanding. But of course you prefer me as your enemy, you’ve made that clear.
guess I have swallowed my words eh Sims
I didn’t know you used words. Based on the complete disconnect between what you’ve said this game and what you’ve ordered, I figured you were just speaking gibberish.
Fuck... Fuck.... Fuckitty Fuck Fuck Fuck!!!
…pretty much confirms that.
From: Rob Ackerley [mailto:rob_ackerley(at)yahoo.ca]
Sent: Saturday, March 15, 2008 12:37 PM
To: Former Trout; dc138
Cc: Andrew Clarke; Andrew Tanner; Bruce Quinn; Bruce Ray; Jason K; Michael Sims ; Nathan Deily; Samuel Smith; Steve Lytton
Subject: Re: DC138 Winter Of Our Discontent - Spring 2006 - Hard On Equipment
Fucking coasts... Fucking internet troubles... Fuck... Fuck.... Fuckitty Fuck Fuck Fuck!!!
NY/BC joint victory proposed...
You Got luckly this time Sims... Net problems kept me from checking my orders thoroughly... Fucking 3rd world inter-fucking-net... anyways... guess I have swallowed my words eh Sims... Hopefully, my stretch of 3 days without net will end today... too little too late for this game though...
Oh well... It doesn't matter much anyway....
----- Original Message ----
From: Former Trout <former.trout(at)gmail.com>
To: dc138 <DC138(at)diplomaticcorp.com>
Cc: Andrew Clarke <a_c_2bcool(at)hotmail.com>; Andrew Tanner <damienthryn(at)gmail.com>; Bruce Quinn <coebq(at)yahoo.com>; Bruce Ray <raybrucea(at)aol.com>; Jason K <Githraine(at)yahoo.com>; Mike Sims <mike(at)southwall.com>; Nathan Deily < ndeily(at)yahoo.com >; Rob Ackerley <rob_ackerley(at)yahoo.ca>; Samuel Smith <agenbite.lee(at)gmail.com>; Steve Lytton <stevelytton(at)hotmail.com>
Sent: Friday, March 14, 2008 8:43:52 PM
Subject: DC138 Winter Of Our Discontent - Spring 2006 - Hard On Equipment
Our sage guru of all guru-ness plucks this from his Spring 2006 Fortune Cookie: You will soon be more aware of your growing awareness.
Course, we're all aware of hind-sight. Mexico puts on an eye-patch and peg-leg, moving into Carribean waters. New York continues to struggle against the wrath of the previously-stabbed and the weather channels split in disagreement over the coming Canadian cold front or Sunny Californian glow...
One retreat required after all of that - the New York fleet in the Gulf of St Lawrence finds itself finding a new port. Either Newfoundland or Quebec , the American sailors will soon find themselves in a land with strange-speaking people. Deadline for the Summer 2006 retreat will be set for Sunday, March 16th (11:59 PM GMT).
Cheers all. Please just let me know if you spot any mistakes.
Trout
DC-138
A Diplomaticcorp Game
Fall of the American Empire 4 Variant
Game Started:
Current Turn:
Spring 2006
Next Deadline:
Summer 2006 Retreats
Sunday, March 16th (11:59 PM GMT)
The Rowdy Cast
British Columbia
Andrew Tanner
damienthryn AT gmail DOT com
California
Bruce Ray
Raybrucea AT aol DOT com
Cuba
Jason K.
Githraine AT yahoo DOT com
Florida
Lee Moore
agenbite DOT lee AT gmail DOT com
Heartland
Andy Ski
a_c_2bcool AT hotmail DOT com
Mexico
Bruce Quinn
coebq AT yahoo DOT com
New York
Rob Ackerley
rob_ackerley AT yahoo DOT ca
Peru
Alex Schmidt
wecanworkthisout AT yahoo DOT com
Quebec
Mike Sims
mike AT southwall DOT com
Texas
Nathan Deily
nedily AT yahoo DOT com
Humble GM:
Former Trout
former DOT trout AT gmail DOT com
CURRENT SEASON:
SPRING 2006 ORDERS:
BRITISH COLUMBIA :
F MPO H
OK
F Van - Anc
OK
F Anc - ARO
OK
F Gre - NAO
[BOUNCE with NAO 1:1]
F SOL s ( Quebec ) F NSC - GSL
OK
A Min s (HL) A Chi-Mil
VOID (No Such Order)
A Won s (HL) A Ont
OK
A Man - Non
OK
A Non - Abi
OK
A Mon - Bea
OK
CALIFORNIA :
North Pacific - WCO (West Coast?)
OK
Baja - Gulf of California
[BOUNCE with GUA 1:1]
Oklahoma - Missouri
OK
Kansas s Oklahoma - Missouri
OK
Nebraska s Oklahoma - Missouri
OK
San Antonio - Houston
[BOUNCE with HOU 2:2]
Dallas s San Antonio - Houston
OK
West Texas s Dallas
OK
New Mexico s Dallas
OK
Arizona - Colorado
OK
CUBA :
A Bogota - Vichada
OK
F Cali (nc) - South Caribbean Sea
[BOUNCE with WES 1:1]
F East Caribbean Sea - Venezuela
OK
FLORIDA :
A Hou holds
OK
A in Lou supports A in Hou holding
OK
A Ark holds
OK
A Ten supports A Ark holding
OK
A Dos supports A Ark Holding
OK
A Geo supports A Ten supporting A Ark
OK
A Hav to Cam
OK
F Mia to Sof
OK
F Sof to GoM
OK
F Kin to ECS
OK
F Les supports F Kin to ECS
OK
F WeS to Scs
[BOUNCE with CAL 1:1]
HEARTLAND:
A Chicago - Indiana
[BOUNCE with IND 1:1]
A Milwaukee - Upper Peninsula
[BOUNCE with MIC 1:1]
A Missouri - Kentucky
OK
A Ontario Supports A Montreal
VOID (Unit Ordered To Move)
MEXICO :
A Pot - Mex
OK
F Gua - GCa
[BOUNCE with BAJ 1:1]
F Ver - GoC
OK
F Gut - CoM
OK
F GoF - CoB
OK
A Nic holds
OK
A Yuc holds
OK
A NLe holds
OK
F Pan - GMo
OK
F Lima - Gal
OK
NEW YORK :
A Beauce - Gaspesie
OK
F Gulf of St-Lawrence - New Brunswick (sc)
VOID [DISLODGED by NSC 2:1]
A Indiana Supports A Tennessee - Kentucky
[CUT by CHI]
F Massachusetts Bay Supports F Gulf of St-Lawrence - New Brunswick (sc)
VOID
A Michigan - Upper Peninsula
[BOUNCE with MIL 1:1]
F North Atlantic Ocean - Nova Scotia
[BOUNCE with NBR 1:1]
A New York State - Ontario
[BOUNCE with ONT 1:2]
QUEBEC :
F NSc-GSL
OK
F NBr/nc-NSc
[BOUNCE with NAO 1:1]
SUMMER 2006 RETREATS:
New York F Gulf of St-Lawrence may retreat to Nfl, Lab, Cot, Que or OTB
UNIT / SUPPLY CENTER BREAKDOWN
------------------------------
BRITISH COLUMBIA :
10 Supply Centers - Anc, Van, Cgy, Was, Haw,
Man, Min, Ung, Gre, Mon
5 Armies - Min, Bea, Abi, Won, Non
5 Fleets - Mpo, Sol, Gre, Aro, Anc
CALIFORNIA :
10 Supply Centers - Sfr, Los, Sdi, Ore , Ari , Col ,
Chh , Kan , San, Dal
8 Armies - Mis, Dal, Wte, San, Kan , Neb , Nme , Col
2 Fleets - Baj, Wco
CUBA :
3 Supply Centers - Ven , Cal , Bog
1 Army - Vic
2 Fleets - Cal(nc), Ven
FLORIDA :
12 Supply Centers - Jac, Tam, Mia, Ten, Geo, Nca,
Lou, Hou, Hol, Dom, Hav, Kin
7 Armies - Ten, Hou , Ark , Lou, Cam , Geo, Dso
5 Fleets - Les, Wcs, Ecs, Gom, Sof
HEARTLAND:
4 Supply Centers - Mil, Mis, Chi, Ont
4 Armies - Chi, Ont, Ken, Mil
0 Fleets -
MEXICO :
10 Supply Centers - Gua, Mex, Ver, Gut, Dur, Nle,
Nic, Lim, Pan, Yuc
4 Armies - Nic, Mex, Nle, Yuc
6 Fleets - Cob, Gal, Gmo, Com, Goc, Gua
NEW YORK :
7 Supply Centers - Nyc, Nje, Phi, Mas, Ohi, Wdc,
Mic
4 Armies - Bea, Mic, Ind , Nys
3 Fleets - Mab, [Gsl], Nao
QUEBEC :
2 Supply Centers - Que, Nsc
0 Armies -
2 Fleets - Gsl, Nbr(nc)
TEXAS - ELIMINATED 2004
PERU - ELIMINATED 2005
NEXT DEADLINE: SUMMER 2006 RETREATS DUE SUNDAY, MARCH 16TH (11:59 PM GMT)!!
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| DC138 Winter Of Our Discontent - Spring 2006 - Har... - test_gm (Sep 13, 2007, 12:00 am) |
Guys,
Whilst I admit that I was slightly sporadic in my gameplay in my defence I have never played online diplomacy before, never played a variant of this size before and most of all have never been within 2000 odd miles of the American continent. I may take a few days to reply to emails and did miss a deadline as I have exams to work for in May and coursework due in almost every week.
Rob, your email about my being "easily manipulated" and being a "weak player" annoyed me enough to stop your "Foolproof" plan. NB It didnt need to be foolproof, just Ski-proof.
I have enjoyed this game but resent the accusations of my former "ally" NY.
Cheers
Andy
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| DC138 Winter Of Our Discontent - Spring 2006 - Har... - test_gm (Sep 13, 2007, 12:00 am) |
Round and round and round and round we go... he said she said that so and so did this... Easy to argue issues when they suit the purpose... but I am confident that you are not that much different than I. Seasoned, experienced, tainted and above all a thorough knowledge, through experience, of the various tactics and scenarios that make this the game it is. I have ridden the iron clad alliance and the stabbing lying bastard to various levels of success and failure.
No point in arguing this any further. As you said: Choices. As I said: Perspective. And the all powerful hindsight.
Play, but unless the wind changes in the caribbean or a new fault line is discovered on the west coast... the outcome is fairly obvious.
----- Original Message ----
From: Michael Sims <mike(at)southwall.com>
To: Rob Ackerley <rob_ackerley(at)yahoo.ca>; Former Trout <former.trout(at)gmail.com>; dc138 <DC138(at)diplomaticcorp.com>
Cc: Andrew Clarke <a_c_2bcool(at)hotmail.com>; Andrew Tanner <damienthryn(at)gmail.com>; Bruce Quinn <coebq(at)yahoo.com>; Bruce Ray <raybrucea(at)aol.com>; Jason K <Githraine(at)yahoo.com>; Nathan Deily <ndeily(at)yahoo.com>; Samuel Smith <agenbite.lee(at)gmail.com>; Steve Lytton <stevelytton(at)hotmail.com>
Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2008 4:34:10 PM
Subject: RE: DC138 Winter Of Our Discontent - Spring 2006 - Hard On Equipment
Ah yes - glad to have the expert here to declare what alliances can or cannot work. Shall I take notes? EGF or AIT can and do work in the standard game. In fact they are well-documented. But you say they can't so maybe 30 years of history and thousands of games were wrong. EGF (or in our case NHQ) alliances work if you make them work. If you discount any alliance as impossible, then you're simply playing with a smaller deck of options than the rest of the players. I will keep that in mind for future games! Perhaps you should consider that they dont work for you, cuz you think they dont work and so you preemptively break them. You also think that BC/Cali shouldn't work and one should stab the other, to the extent that you're whining that they should, yet it continues to work to your dismay.
They're simply choosing not to stab. Sorry. That probly hurts your eyes to read.
Now tell me who is handing the game over?
Oh, I don't think you alone caused the predicament that the whole northeast is in. However you were certainly an instigator in the happenings. I know that Heartland moved on me first, and I tried to work w the trio again after that, and then the two of you moved in, and I tried to work w HL yet again, and he still took a center on a retreat. But I chalk that up to inexperience, whereas I know you're a veteran who's supposedly been thru this before. I am pretty certain that without your prodding, if instead you and I had stood solid, HL would not have moved against us alone. As you put it, he probly could have been "manipulated" into sticking w us indefinitely, but you played that card to our destruction instead of our growth.
I'm guessing in dc136 you probly got hit from the other side, and so didnt have the chance to stab. No doubt if say Florida or Cuba had come up at you from the south, you'd have been all for our alliance. But when given the choice, well... it is a game of choices so we need not beat that one. Unfortunately there is no disputing that I gave both yourself and Heartland a huge effort to make this work, whereas your diploming was from the start of the alliance to get HL to stab me, since I outright told you I wouldn't stab him. That was truly my mistake in this game, when you asked me to stab Heartland so early, I should have realized you were playing that both ways, and Heartland wasn't as resistant to giving in.
What was the word... yes... perspective.
Or in your case, perspecttive.
From: Rob Ackerley [mailto:rob_ackerley(at)yahoo.ca]
Sent: Wed 3/19/2008 3:05 PM
To: Michael Sims; Former Trout; dc138
Cc: Andrew Clarke; Andrew Tanner; Bruce Quinn; Bruce Ray; Jason K; Nathan Deily; Samuel Smith; Steve Lytton
Subject: Re: DC138 Winter Of Our Discontent - Spring 2006 - Hard On Equipment
Sims,
All in the perspective of the wronged. I have played this game long enough to know that a geographic situation like ours would not sustain a long term, successful 3 way alliance. In the same way a E/G/F alliance or a T/I/A alliance in Vanilla Dip cannot last. A wise friend of my tought me this valuable piece of advise (occasionally the hard way) in some FTF games. An ally is no longer an ally if they have a shot at 2 or more SC's. And in 8 years of actively playing this game I have found that theory to be true 95% of the time. Sooner or later our borders would have ended up establishing that exact status.
If you want to see whether I am capable of being a solid and secure ally, look at DC136 where I have worked with Germany from the start to both of our benefit. Germany unfortunately made a wrong guess one turn that hurt him significantly and is just climbing back up from that with the trusted help of yours truly. So yes it can be done. But more often than not, it falls apart.
Lastly before you go blaming me for my choice of adjustments, I suggest you look more at HL and him vacating his line and cooperating with BC dispite my continued support and petitioning to ensure he did not lose MIS to Cali 3 years ago. So don't point the finger on me for the advance of Cali and BC. The line that fell apart which will open the door for them was and is HL. Period. so cus him out too while you are putting the blame on me handing the game over to them. I did my level best to restore peace and support HL and he chose to side with BC. Now tell me who is handing the game over?
Perspective.
Rob
----- Original Message ----
From: Michael Sims <mike(at)southwall.com>
To: Rob Ackerley <rob_ackerley(at)yahoo.ca>; Former Trout <former.trout(at)gmail.com>; dc138 <DC138(at)diplomaticcorp.com>
Cc: Andrew Clarke <a_c_2bcool(at)hotmail.com>; Andrew Tanner <damienthryn(at)gmail.com>; Bruce Quinn <coebq(at)yahoo.com>; Bruce Ray <raybrucea(at)aol.com>; Jason K <Githraine(at)yahoo.com>; Nathan Deily <ndeily(at)yahoo.com>; Samuel Smith <agenbite.lee(at)gmail.com>; Steve Lytton <stevelytton(at)hotmail.com>
Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2008 3:38:05 PM
Subject: RE: DC138 Winter Of Our Discontent - Spring 2006 - Hard On Equipment
Please refrain from declaring my moods. I am not mad, or upset. Rather I've been enjoying the game since you (Rob) devoted an empire 4 times my size to eliminating me, and you have nothing to show for it... and in fact lost 2 centers last round. You're so worried about BC rounding that corner or me living to say "hah" that you are conceding the center of America to California and BC so as to ensure my demise. That is in a way the ultimate compliment that you are giving up your own game to take mine.
However in the same breath, you're bitching about how Cali and BC wont stab each other, when you're bailing on the center of the map in favor of retaining an army in Gas is just handing them more centers and growth w/o having to stab the other. You are feeding the monster that you're complaining about, while getting very unlucky in the battles agaisnt me.
"You're just mad and upset that you were jumped on first - before you got yourself established enough to turn on HL or I."
I think Andrew's comments are right on, and this edifies them. For had you (and Heartland) not stabbed our trio, we would be in the 3 power positions, and everyone else on the map would be encouraging us to stab the other. See this is where your logic falls apart, for you ASSUME that an alliance wont work, and that someone will stab it. However we can see that if players stick to it, then it works. You didnt give ours a chance. You basically stabbed, admittedly so that I couldnt stab you first, and anyone who approaches an alliance like that, will find themselves often alliance-less, facing those who are stronger, urging them disappointedly to stab the other.
"Your in a position to lose both your SC's this turn "
Are you proud of this? You've spent your whole game trying to elim one player, I've survived way longer than I should have, and you're coming up on the short end of the alliance stick after our trio had the best opening possible in this game. Andrew would be toast if you hadn't turned, and Heartland and myself would now be beating on the door of California (sorry Ray!). However, yes, I am in a position to lose my SC's, so kudos to you for a great start well squandered.
From: Rob Ackerley [mailto:rob_ackerley(at)yahoo.ca]
Sent: Wed 3/19/2008 12:08 PM
To: Michael Sims; Former Trout; dc138
Cc: Andrew Clarke; Andrew Tanner; Bruce Quinn; Bruce Ray; Jason K; Nathan Deily; Samuel Smith; Steve Lytton
Subject: Re: DC138 Winter Of Our Discontent - Spring 2006 - Hard On Equipment
Aw Sims... in this game there was no disconnect between my words and my orders to anyone until HL decided to fudge a foolproof (or so I thought) plan to take MON and QUE from you. And not since I sought retribtution for his actions has there been disconnect. Twice HL screwed me since (justifably) and for several turns BC has spoken great things towards peace in the NE, yet his rush of units to the region paint an entirely contrasting picture.
You're just mad and upset that you were jumped on first - before you got yourself established enough to turn on HL or I. I'm just mad because I had too much confidence in the compotence of HL. I put too much trust in BC when clearly he didn't deserve any, and at present you are just an extension of him.
The fact of the matter is HL will lose his centers before he gains anything significant from me. Your in a position to lose both your SC's this turn and surprisingly even after my misorder, I am not in terrible position in the short term.
In the long term, unless BC and Cali crack or Mexico makes immediate moves to flex some naval muscle in the Pacific, then the game is over. Not one to throw in the towel, but another season or two on the current course and our little love triangle in the NE will be a distant thought.
Rob
----- Original Message ----
From: Michael Sims <mike(at)southwall.com>
To: Rob Ackerley <rob_ackerley(at)yahoo.ca>; Former Trout <former.trout(at)gmail.com>; dc138 <DC138(at)diplomaticcorp.com>
Cc: Andrew Clarke <a_c_2bcool(at)hotmail.com>; Andrew Tanner <damienthryn(at)gmail.com>; Bruce Quinn <coebq(at)yahoo.com>; Bruce Ray <raybrucea(at)aol.com>; Jason K <Githraine(at)yahoo.com>; Nathan Deily <ndeily(at)yahoo.com>; Samuel Smith <agenbite.lee(at)gmail.com>; Steve Lytton <stevelytton(at)hotmail.com>
Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2008 12:13:49 PM
Subject: RE: DC138 Winter Of Our Discontent - Spring 2006 - Hard On Equipment
Ya know if you’d stop dropping your front line units maybe you could stop those huge empires in the west. I’m sure you’ll keep going at me tho, the little guy with two measly fleets just trying to stay alive, and Cali/BC will keep expanding. But of course you prefer me as your enemy, you’ve made that clear.
guess I have swallowed my words eh Sims
I didn’t know you used words. Based on the complete disconnect between what you’ve said this game and what you’ve ordered, I figured you were just speaking gibberish.
Fuck... Fuck.... Fuckitty Fuck Fuck Fuck!!!
…pretty much confirms that.
From: Rob Ackerley [mailto:rob_ackerley(at)yahoo.ca]
Sent: Saturday, March 15, 2008 12:37 PM
To: Former Trout; dc138
Cc: Andrew Clarke; Andrew Tanner; Bruce Quinn; Bruce Ray; Jason K; Michael Sims ; Nathan Deily; Samuel Smith; Steve Lytton
Subject: Re: DC138 Winter Of Our Discontent - Spring 2006 - Hard On Equipment
Fucking coasts... Fucking internet troubles... Fuck... Fuck.... Fuckitty Fuck Fuck Fuck!!!
NY/BC joint victory proposed...
You Got luckly this time Sims... Net problems kept me from checking my orders thoroughly... Fucking 3rd world inter-fucking-net... anyways... guess I have swallowed my words eh Sims... Hopefully, my stretch of 3 days without net will end today... too little too late for this game though...
Oh well... It doesn't matter much anyway....
----- Original Message ----
From: Former Trout <former.trout(at)gmail.com>
To: dc138 <DC138(at)diplomaticcorp.com>
Cc: Andrew Clarke <a_c_2bcool(at)hotmail.com>; Andrew Tanner <damienthryn(at)gmail.com>; Bruce Quinn <coebq(at)yahoo.com>; Bruce Ray <raybrucea(at)aol.com>; Jason K <Githraine(at)yahoo.com>; Mike Sims <mike(at)southwall.com>; Nathan Deily < ndeily(at)yahoo.com >; Rob Ackerley <rob_ackerley(at)yahoo.ca>; Samuel Smith <agenbite.lee(at)gmail.com>; Steve Lytton <stevelytton(at)hotmail.com>
Sent: Friday, March 14, 2008 8:43:52 PM
Subject: DC138 Winter Of Our Discontent - Spring 2006 - Hard On Equipment
Our sage guru of all guru-ness plucks this from his Spring 2006 Fortune Cookie: You will soon be more aware of your growing awareness.
Course, we're all aware of hind-sight. Mexico puts on an eye-patch and peg-leg, moving into Carribean waters. New York continues to struggle against the wrath of the previously-stabbed and the weather channels split in disagreement over the coming Canadian cold front or Sunny Californian glow...
One retreat required after all of that - the New York fleet in the Gulf of St Lawrence finds itself finding a new port. Either Newfoundland or Quebec , the American sailors will soon find themselves in a land with strange-speaking people. Deadline for the Summer 2006 retreat will be set for Sunday, March 16th (11:59 PM GMT).
Cheers all. Please just let me know if you spot any mistakes.
Trout
DC-138
A Diplomaticcorp Game
Fall of the American Empire 4 Variant
Game Started:
Current Turn:
Spring 2006
Next Deadline:
Summer 2006 Retreats
Sunday, March 16th (11:59 PM GMT)
The Rowdy Cast
British Columbia
Andrew Tanner
damienthryn AT gmail DOT com
California
Bruce Ray
Raybrucea AT aol DOT com
Cuba
Jason K.
Githraine AT yahoo DOT com
Florida
Lee Moore
agenbite DOT lee AT gmail DOT com
Heartland
Andy Ski
a_c_2bcool AT hotmail DOT com
Mexico
Bruce Quinn
coebq AT yahoo DOT com
New York
Rob Ackerley
rob_ackerley AT yahoo DOT ca
Peru
Alex Schmidt
wecanworkthisout AT yahoo DOT com
Quebec
Mike Sims
mike AT southwall DOT com
Texas
Nathan Deily
nedily AT yahoo DOT com
Humble GM:
Former Trout
former DOT trout AT gmail DOT com
CURRENT SEASON:
SPRING 2006 ORDERS:
BRITISH COLUMBIA :
F MPO H
OK
F Van - Anc
OK
F Anc - ARO
OK
F Gre - NAO
[BOUNCE with NAO 1:1]
F SOL s ( Quebec ) F NSC - GSL
OK
A Min s (HL) A Chi-Mil
VOID (No Such Order)
A Won s (HL) A Ont
OK
A Man - Non
OK
A Non - Abi
OK
A Mon - Bea
OK
CALIFORNIA :
North Pacific - WCO (West Coast?)
OK
Baja - Gulf of California
[BOUNCE with GUA 1:1]
Oklahoma - Missouri
OK
Kansas s Oklahoma - Missouri
OK
Nebraska s Oklahoma - Missouri
OK
San Antonio - Houston
[BOUNCE with HOU 2:2]
Dallas s San Antonio - Houston
OK
West Texas s Dallas
OK
New Mexico s Dallas
OK
Arizona - Colorado
OK
CUBA :
A Bogota - Vichada
OK
F Cali (nc) - South Caribbean Sea
[BOUNCE with WES 1:1]
F East Caribbean Sea - Venezuela
OK
FLORIDA :
A Hou holds
OK
A in Lou supports A in Hou holding
OK
A Ark holds
OK
A Ten supports A Ark holding
OK
A Dos supports A Ark Holding
OK
A Geo supports A Ten supporting A Ark
OK
A Hav to Cam
OK
F Mia to Sof
OK
F Sof to GoM
OK
F Kin to ECS
OK
F Les supports F Kin to ECS
OK
F WeS to Scs
[BOUNCE with CAL 1:1]
HEARTLAND:
A Chicago - Indiana
[BOUNCE with IND 1:1]
A Milwaukee - Upper Peninsula
[BOUNCE with MIC 1:1]
A Missouri - Kentucky
OK
A Ontario Supports A Montreal
VOID (Unit Ordered To Move)
MEXICO :
A Pot - Mex
OK
F Gua - GCa
[BOUNCE with BAJ 1:1]
F Ver - GoC
OK
F Gut - CoM
OK
F GoF - CoB
OK
A Nic holds
OK
A Yuc holds
OK
A NLe holds
OK
F Pan - GMo
OK
F Lima - Gal
OK
NEW YORK :
A Beauce - Gaspesie
OK
F Gulf of St-Lawrence - New Brunswick (sc)
VOID [DISLODGED by NSC 2:1]
A Indiana Supports A Tennessee - Kentucky
[CUT by CHI]
F Massachusetts Bay Supports F Gulf of St-Lawrence - New Brunswick (sc)
VOID
A Michigan - Upper Peninsula
[BOUNCE with MIL 1:1]
F North Atlantic Ocean - Nova Scotia
[BOUNCE with NBR 1:1]
A New York State - Ontario
[BOUNCE with ONT 1:2]
QUEBEC :
F NSc-GSL
OK
F NBr/nc-NSc
[BOUNCE with NAO 1:1]
SUMMER 2006 RETREATS:
New York F Gulf of St-Lawrence may retreat to Nfl, Lab, Cot, Que or OTB
UNIT / SUPPLY CENTER BREAKDOWN
------------------------------
BRITISH COLUMBIA :
10 Supply Centers - Anc, Van, Cgy, Was, Haw,
Man, Min, Ung, Gre, Mon
5 Armies - Min, Bea, Abi, Won, Non
5 Fleets - Mpo, Sol, Gre, Aro, Anc
CALIFORNIA :
10 Supply Centers - Sfr, Los, Sdi, Ore , Ari , Col ,
Chh , Kan , San, Dal
8 Armies - Mis, Dal, Wte, San, Kan , Neb , Nme , Col
2 Fleets - Baj, Wco
CUBA :
3 Supply Centers - Ven , Cal , Bog
1 Army - Vic
2 Fleets - Cal(nc), Ven
FLORIDA :
12 Supply Centers - Jac, Tam, Mia, Ten, Geo, Nca,
Lou, Hou, Hol, Dom, Hav, Kin
7 Armies - Ten, Hou , Ark , Lou, Cam , Geo, Dso
5 Fleets - Les, Wcs, Ecs, Gom, Sof
HEARTLAND:
4 Supply Centers - Mil, Mis, Chi, Ont
4 Armies - Chi, Ont, Ken, Mil
0 Fleets -
MEXICO :
10 Supply Centers - Gua, Mex, Ver, Gut, Dur, Nle,
Nic, Lim, Pan, Yuc
4 Armies - Nic, Mex, Nle, Yuc
6 Fleets - Cob, Gal, Gmo, Com, Goc, Gua
NEW YORK :
7 Supply Centers - Nyc, Nje, Phi, Mas, Ohi, Wdc,
Mic
4 Armies - Bea, Mic, Ind , Nys
3 Fleets - Mab, [Gsl], Nao
QUEBEC :
2 Supply Centers - Que, Nsc
0 Armies -
2 Fleets - Gsl, Nbr(nc)
TEXAS - ELIMINATED 2004
PERU - ELIMINATED 2005
NEXT DEADLINE: SUMMER 2006 RETREATS DUE SUNDAY, MARCH 16TH (11:59 PM GMT)!!
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