Just to set the record straight Rob (in case you or anyone else is interested) - the HL 'fudge' of the foolproof plan came at least in part due to my instigation - I thought he might be interested to know that you thought of him as being (I quote) "easily manipulated" and passed along those words of yours.
I have to admit, once I found that you viewed your relationship with your allies as one of mere manipulation, I lost interest in any long term relationship with you, even if that meant risking HL and Quebec combining to hit me in the future.
Frankly I wonder why Florida still sticks by you, and how manipulable you think he is.
That all being said, I don't see how this game is at the point of being proposed as a BC/Cali draw, when there's an alive and powerful Mexico and Florida that could easily contest that draw. And nothing says Cali or Florida couldn't pursue a solo venture. There's a lot of game left, methinks, and I'm sure there's plenty of chance that I'll also enjoy the feeling of clinging to a last few provinces (Artic Pirates Ho!) at some point...
And I hope you'll enjoy that feeling as well, before the end.
Andrew
On Wed, Mar 19, 2008 at 12:08 PM, Rob Ackerley <rob_ackerley(at)yahoo.ca ([email]rob_ackerley(at)yahoo.ca[/email])> wrote:
Aw Sims... in this game there was no disconnect between my words and my orders to anyone until HL decided to fudge a foolproof (or so I thought) plan to take MON and QUE from you. And not since I sought retribtution for his actions has there been disconnect. Twice HL screwed me since (justifably) and for several turns BC has spoken great things towards peace in the NE, yet his rush of units to the region paint an entirely contrasting picture.
You're just mad and upset that you were jumped on first - before you got yourself established enough to turn on HL or I. I'm just mad because I had too much confidence in the compotence of HL. I put too much trust in BC when clearly he didn't deserve any, and at present you are just an extension of him.
The fact of the matter is HL will lose his centers before he gains anything significant from me. Your in a position to lose both your SC's this turn and surprisingly even after my misorder, I am not in terrible position in the short term.
In the long term, unless BC and Cali crack or Mexico makes immediate moves to flex some naval muscle in the Pacific, then the game is over. Not one to throw in the towel, but another season or two on the current course and our little love triangle in the NE will be a distant thought.
Rob
----- Original Message ----
From: Michael Sims <mike(at)southwall.com ([email]mike(at)southwall.com[/email])>
To: Rob Ackerley <rob_ackerley(at)yahoo.ca ([email]rob_ackerley(at)yahoo.ca[/email])>; Former Trout <former.trout(at)gmail.com ([email]former.trout(at)gmail.com[/email])>; dc138 <DC138(at)diplomaticcorp.com ([email]DC138(at)diplomaticcorp.com[/email])>
Cc: Andrew Clarke <a_c_2bcool(at)hotmail.com ([email]a_c_2bcool(at)hotmail.com[/email])>; Andrew Tanner <damienthryn(at)gmail.com ([email]damienthryn(at)gmail.com[/email])>; Bruce Quinn <coebq(at)yahoo.com ([email]coebq(at)yahoo.com[/email])>; Bruce Ray <raybrucea(at)aol.com ([email]raybrucea(at)aol.com[/email])>; Jason K <Githraine(at)yahoo.com ([email]Githraine(at)yahoo.com[/email])>; Nathan Deily <ndeily(at)yahoo.com ([email]ndeily(at)yahoo.com[/email])>; Samuel Smith <agenbite.lee(at)gmail.com ([email]agenbite.lee(at)gmail.com[/email])>; Steve Lytton <stevelytton(at)hotmail.com ([email]stevelytton(at)hotmail.com[/email])>
Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2008 12:13:49 PM
Subject: RE: DC138 Winter Of Our Discontent - Spring 2006 - Hard On Equipment
Ya know if you'd stop dropping your front line units maybe you could stop those huge empires in the west. I'm sure you'll keep going at me tho, the little guy with two measly fleets just trying to stay alive, and Cali/BC will keep expanding. But of course you prefer me as your enemy, you've made that clear.
guess I have swallowed my words eh Sims
I didn't know you used words. Based on the complete disconnect between what you've said this game and what you've ordered, I figured you were just speaking gibberish.
Fuck... Fuck.... Fuckitty Fuck Fuck Fuck!!!
…pretty much confirms that.
From: Rob Ackerley [mailto:rob_ackerley(at)yahoo.ca ([email]rob_ackerley(at)yahoo.ca[/email])]
Sent: Saturday, March 15, 2008 12:37 PM
To: Former Trout; dc138
Cc: Andrew Clarke; Andrew Tanner; Bruce Quinn; Bruce Ray; Jason K; Michael Sims ; Nathan Deily; Samuel Smith; Steve Lytton
Subject: Re: DC138 Winter Of Our Discontent - Spring 2006 - Hard On Equipment
Fucking coasts... Fucking internet troubles... Fuck... Fuck.... Fuckitty Fuck Fuck Fuck!!!
NY/BC joint victory proposed...
You Got luckly this time Sims... Net problems kept me from checking my orders thoroughly... Fucking 3rd world inter-fucking-net... anyways... guess I have swallowed my words eh Sims... 
Hopefully, my stretch of 3 days without net will end today... too little too late for this game though...
Oh well... It doesn't matter much anyway....
----- Original Message ----
From: Former Trout <former.trout(at)gmail.com ([email]former.trout(at)gmail.com[/email])>
To: dc138 <DC138(at)diplomaticcorp.com ([email]DC138(at)diplomaticcorp.com[/email])>
Cc: Andrew Clarke <a_c_2bcool(at)hotmail.com ([email]a_c_2bcool(at)hotmail.com[/email])>; Andrew Tanner <damienthryn(at)gmail.com ([email]damienthryn(at)gmail.com[/email])>; Bruce Quinn <coebq(at)yahoo.com ([email]coebq(at)yahoo.com[/email])>; Bruce Ray <raybrucea(at)aol.com ([email]raybrucea(at)aol.com[/email])>; Jason K <Githraine(at)yahoo.com ([email]Githraine(at)yahoo.com[/email])>; Mike Sims <mike(at)southwall.com ([email]mike(at)southwall.com[/email])>; Nathan Deily < ndeily(at)yahoo.com ([email]ndeily(at)yahoo.com[/email]) >; Rob Ackerley <rob_ackerley(at)yahoo.ca ([email]rob_ackerley(at)yahoo.ca[/email])>; Samuel Smith <agenbite.lee(at)gmail.com ([email]agenbite.lee(at)gmail.com[/email])>; Steve Lytton <stevelytton(at)hotmail.com ([email]stevelytton(at)hotmail.com[/email])>
Sent: Friday, March 14, 2008 8:43:52 PM
Subject: DC138 Winter Of Our Discontent - Spring 2006 - Hard On Equipment
Our sage guru of all guru-ness plucks this from his Spring 2006 Fortune Cookie: You will soon be more aware of your growing awareness.
Course, we're all aware of hind-sight. Mexico puts on an eye-patch and peg-leg, moving into Carribean waters. New York continues to struggle against the wrath of the previously-stabbed and the weather channels split in disagreement over the coming Canadian cold front or Sunny Californian glow...
One retreat required after all of that - the New York fleet in the Gulf of St Lawrence finds itself finding a new port. Either Newfoundland or Quebec , the American sailors will soon find themselves in a land with strange-speaking people. Deadline for the Summer 2006 retreat will be set for Sunday, March 16th (11:59 PM GMT).
Cheers all. Please just let me know if you spot any mistakes.
Trout
DC-138
A Diplomaticcorp Game
Fall of the American Empire 4 Variant
Game Started:
Current Turn:
Spring 2006
Next Deadline:
Summer 2006 Retreats
Sunday, March 16th (11:59 PM GMT)
The Rowdy Cast
British Columbia
Andrew Tanner
damienthryn AT gmail DOT com
California
Bruce Ray
Raybrucea AT aol DOT com
Cuba
Jason K.
Githraine AT yahoo DOT com
Florida
Lee Moore
agenbite DOT lee AT gmail DOT com
Heartland
Andy Ski
a_c_2bcool AT hotmail DOT com
Mexico
Bruce Quinn
coebq AT yahoo DOT com
New York
Rob Ackerley
rob_ackerley AT yahoo DOT ca
Peru
Alex Schmidt
wecanworkthisout AT yahoo DOT com
Quebec
Mike Sims
mike AT southwall DOT com
Texas
Nathan Deily
nedily AT yahoo DOT com
Humble GM:
Former Trout
former DOT trout AT gmail DOT com
CURRENT SEASON:
SPRING 2006 ORDERS:
BRITISH COLUMBIA :
F MPO H
OK
F Van - Anc
OK
F Anc - ARO
OK
F Gre - NAO
[BOUNCE with NAO 1:1]
F SOL s ( Quebec ) F NSC - GSL
OK
A Min s (HL) A Chi-Mil
VOID (No Such Order)
A Won s (HL) A Ont
OK
A Man - Non
OK
A Non - Abi
OK
A Mon - Bea
OK
CALIFORNIA :
North Pacific - WCO (West Coast?)
OK
Baja - Gulf of California
[BOUNCE with GUA 1:1]
Oklahoma - Missouri
OK
Kansas s Oklahoma - Missouri
OK
Nebraska s Oklahoma - Missouri
OK
San Antonio - Houston
[BOUNCE with HOU 2:2]
Dallas s San Antonio - Houston
OK
West Texas s Dallas
OK
New Mexico s Dallas
OK
Arizona - Colorado
OK
CUBA :
A Bogota - Vichada
OK
F Cali (nc) - South Caribbean Sea
[BOUNCE with WES 1:1]
F East Caribbean Sea - Venezuela
OK
FLORIDA :
A Hou holds
OK
A in Lou supports A in Hou holding
OK
A Ark holds
OK
A Ten supports A Ark holding
OK
A Dos supports A Ark Holding
OK
A Geo supports A Ten supporting A Ark
OK
A Hav to Cam
OK
F Mia to Sof
OK
F Sof to GoM
OK
F Kin to ECS
OK
F Les supports F Kin to ECS
OK
F WeS to Scs
[BOUNCE with CAL 1:1]
HEARTLAND:
A Chicago - Indiana
[BOUNCE with IND 1:1]
A Milwaukee - Upper Peninsula
[BOUNCE with MIC 1:1]
A Missouri - Kentucky
OK
A Ontario Supports A Montreal
VOID (Unit Ordered To Move)
MEXICO :
A Pot - Mex
OK
F Gua - GCa
[BOUNCE with BAJ 1:1]
F Ver - GoC
OK
F Gut - CoM
OK
F GoF - CoB
OK
A Nic holds
OK
A Yuc holds
OK
A NLe holds
OK
F Pan - GMo
OK
F Lima - Gal
OK
NEW YORK :
A Beauce - Gaspesie
OK
F Gulf of St-Lawrence - New Brunswick (sc)
VOID [DISLODGED by NSC 2:1]
A Indiana Supports A Tennessee - Kentucky
[CUT by CHI]
F Massachusetts Bay Supports F Gulf of St-Lawrence - New Brunswick (sc)
VOID
A Michigan - Upper Peninsula
[BOUNCE with MIL 1:1]
F North Atlantic Ocean - Nova Scotia
[BOUNCE with NBR 1:1]
A New York State - Ontario
[BOUNCE with ONT 1:2]
QUEBEC :
F NSc-GSL
OK
F NBr/nc-NSc
[BOUNCE with NAO 1:1]
SUMMER 2006 RETREATS:
New York F Gulf of St-Lawrence may retreat to Nfl, Lab, Cot, Que or OTB
UNIT / SUPPLY CENTER BREAKDOWN
------------------------------
BRITISH COLUMBIA :
10 Supply Centers - Anc, Van, Cgy, Was, Haw,
Man, Min, Ung, Gre, Mon
5 Armies - Min, Bea, Abi, Won, Non
5 Fleets - Mpo, Sol, Gre, Aro, Anc
CALIFORNIA :
10 Supply Centers - Sfr, Los, Sdi, Ore , Ari , Col ,
Chh , Kan , San, Dal
8 Armies - Mis, Dal, Wte, San, Kan , Neb , Nme , Col
2 Fleets - Baj, Wco
CUBA :
3 Supply Centers - Ven , Cal , Bog
1 Army - Vic
2 Fleets - Cal(nc), Ven
FLORIDA :
12 Supply Centers - Jac, Tam, Mia, Ten, Geo, Nca,
Lou, Hou, Hol, Dom, Hav, Kin
7 Armies - Ten, Hou , Ark , Lou, Cam , Geo, Dso
5 Fleets - Les, Wcs, Ecs, Gom, Sof
HEARTLAND:
4 Supply Centers - Mil, Mis, Chi, Ont
4 Armies - Chi, Ont, Ken, Mil
0 Fleets -
MEXICO :
10 Supply Centers - Gua, Mex, Ver, Gut, Dur, Nle,
Nic, Lim, Pan, Yuc
4 Armies - Nic, Mex, Nle, Yuc
6 Fleets - Cob, Gal, Gmo, Com, Goc, Gua
NEW YORK :
7 Supply Centers - Nyc, Nje, Phi, Mas, Ohi, Wdc,
Mic
4 Armies - Bea, Mic, Ind , Nys
3 Fleets - Mab, [Gsl], Nao
QUEBEC :
2 Supply Centers - Que, Nsc
0 Armies -
2 Fleets - Gsl, Nbr(nc)
TEXAS - ELIMINATED 2004
PERU - ELIMINATED 2005
NEXT DEADLINE: SUMMER 2006 RETREATS DUE SUNDAY, MARCH 16TH (11:59 PM GMT)!!
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