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Subject:< WWIV Game End - IL Solo! 
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Author:MattTheLesser
Posted:Jul 26, 2009 at 2:29 pm
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Hey guys,

First off I want to thank Mike for running this colossal game; I can
only imagine how much more time consuming this must have been than GMing
a normal game, and yet Mike still managed to get the turns published
fairly quickly.

The fate of the game, at least in North America, was definitely set
rolling by the formation of the United States alliance, which included
the US, Illinois, California, and Texas. Although I didn't fully
appreciate how great of a situation this was for me at the time, I did
recognize that getting a port as quickly as possible was important, and
this alliance allowed me to do this. I was able to expand quickly by
moving on Quebec with the US and on Canada with help from California.
Because my allies had to focus on the seas as well, most of these spoils
fell to me, and I was able to put fleets bearing the flag of my
initially landlocked nation in two oceans.

It was right about this time that Texas stabbed California, which gave
California and I all the incentive we needed to take him out. Mexico
helped us here when he probably shouldn't have, but he was a replacement
and I don't think realized that Cali and I would just continue south
through him, but that was what we did.

Now all this time of course the situations on other continents were
working themselves out, and the stalemate lines were beginning to form
in the oceans. I consistently attempted to broker an agreement with
powers on other continents (as I grew bigger this took place more and
more through my allies as other powers stopped talking to me), but was
never able to work something out because both sides always demanded that
the other stab their allies first.

Eventually Cali, the US, and I were the only powers left in North
America, and we were stalemated with Catholica/the UK in the Atlantic,
Brazil in the Caribbean, and Sichuan/Philippines in the Atlantic. Now
the reason I had never stabbed Cali or the US was that they were holding
the lines in the seas and preventing other powers from reaching our
continent. But when Oceania joined the Asians and turned on Cali, Cali
was no longer able to hold up his end of the bargain, so I decided that
my best course of action was to stab Cali and try to get my units to the
coast before the invaders could land.

I made the decision to tell the US about this decision in advance
because I knew that he and Cali had an agreement to move on me should I
move on either of them; this turned out to be a very good decision as
the US agreed to not uphold this deal as he understood that he was too
fleet heavy to fight me, and an end to our cooperation would only result
in both of us losing ground to Catholica and Brazil.

Now I know that some of you were unhappy with Andrew's play at the end,
where it seemed that he let me run him over for the solo. However, you
should direct your unhappiness mostly at me, as Andrew didn't have many
options. I told him I was going to move on him in an attempt to force
other powers to negotiate with him; should he have been able to work
something out that would have allowed expansion for both of us, I would
not have kept my word and not finished the stab. However, no one was
willing to yield anything to stop me, so I went for the solo. And the
reason the US never tried to stop me is that I promised him I would
ensure he would record a survival, which he did. Had he turned on me,
he almost surely would have been eliminated by Catholica and me.

Other players have commented that some of the ocean spaces are too big
and stalemates lines too easily formed; I definitely agree with this,
although having looked at past games on this map I noticed that those
stalemate lines influenced this game much more than the others, probably
because of the strong alliances that formed early on each continent.
Also, this game had a much higher victory requirement than previous
games, which gave the lines more time to form. I think that the lower
victory requirement is probably a better way to play this game. Also,
just as a note to Mike, I don't think a clause in the victory
requirement that requires a certain lead is a good idea. That said, I
would love to play the map again whenever the numbers can be organized
again.

Thanks again to all and especially Mike,
Matt

This message is in reply to post 12045:

After 17 hard fought years, Matt pulls off the solo win! A bit of press…

The leaders of the great nation of Illinois announce the reunification of the continent of North America, along with the islands of Cuba and Iceland, under their rule. Invoking the power now bestowed upon them by the fulfillment of the terms of the Sims Convention, signed 17 years ago, they mandate that all nations that have survived this great war put down their arms and accept current boundaries as permanent. Chicago is hereby proclaimed the capital of the world, and Michael Jordan's number 23 will be retired by all sports teams on the planet. Illinois' chief military commander, General Kremer, applauds all his peers from other nations on a well-contested Fourth World War.

There were 2 retreats, but I just picked some spots since they didn’t impact anything:

Philippines: F Kuala Lumpur(kua) - Isthmus of Kra(kra)(wc)
SichuanEmpire: A Karachi(kar) - Lahore(lah)

On other matters, India descends into Civil Disorder, and California is eliminated. 11 out of 35 players made it to the end. Final standings are online, www.diplomaticcorp.com?game=dc195

EGS (End-Game-Statements) are welcome and encouraged from everyone. The game went 404 days, well over a year of real time. From my perspective, this game traversed a cross-country move, 5 employers, 3 cell phones, and our new baby girl. So much has changed that it’s hard to believe one game went on the whole time. GMing this was quite a bit more work than normal, with 244 units to enter each turn - the biggest challenge of course being managing 35 players. In that regard, everyone who stepped in as a substitute is very much appreciated. This is John, Trent, Kevin, Vegas, Esdras, Max, and Jorge. If you guys aren’t already, you’re welcome to join the ranks of the Light Brigade for stepping into replacement roles.

Congrats again to Matt, and everyone be sure to send in an EGS to the group here.

Enjoy,
-mike

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Argentina:
F Baja(baj) Supports F Sonora(son) (*Cut*)
F Gulf of Panama(gop) Convoys A Lima(lim) - Nicaragua(nic)
F Guatamala Basin(gub) - Guatamala(gml) (*Fails*)
F Panama(pan) Supports A Lima(lim) - Nicaragua(nic)
F East Central Pacific Ocean(ecp) Supports F Guatamala Basin(gub) (*Ordered to Move*)
A Acre(acr) - Amazon Basin(amz) (*Bounce*)
A Bio Bio(bio) Hold
F Falkland Islands/South Georgia Islands(flk) Hold
F Galapagos(glp), no move received
A Gran Chaco(gra) - Paraguay(pgy) (*Bounce*)
A Lima(lim) - Nicaragua(nic) (*Fails*)
A La Paz(lpz) - Lima(lim) (*Fails*)
A Pampas(pam) - Buenos-Aries(bue) (*Bounce*)
F Patagonia(pat) Hold
A Santa Cruz(scz) Supports A Gran Chaco(gra) - Paraguay(pgy) (*Cut*)
A Uruguay(uru) - Buenos-Aries(bue) (*Bounce*)
F Weddell Sea(wed) Hold

Brazil:
F Cape Verde Islands(cpv) Supports F Western South Atlantic Ocean(wsa)
F Western South Atlantic Ocean(wsa) Hold
F Eastern Caribbean Sea(ecb) - Yucatan Basin(yub) (*Fails*)
F Jamaica(jam) Supports F Eastern Caribbean Sea(ecb) - Yucatan Basin(yub)
F Trinidad & Tobago(trd) Supports F Caracas(crc) - Eastern Caribbean Sea(ecb) (*Fails*)
F Western Caribbean Sea(wcb) Supports A Lima(lim) - Nicaragua(nic)
F Aruba(aru) Supports F Caracas(crc) - Eastern Caribbean Sea(ecb)
A Bahia(bah) Hold
A Bogota(bog) Supports A Medellin(med)
F Barranquilla(brn) Supports F Western Caribbean Sea(wcb)
F Caracas(crc) - Eastern Caribbean Sea(ecb) (*Bounce*)
F Golfo De Venezuela(gov) Supports F Caracas(crc) - Eastern Caribbean Sea(ecb)
F Guyana(guy) Supports F Caracas(crc) - Eastern Caribbean Sea(ecb)
A Manaus(man) - Amazon Basin(amz) (*Bounce*)
A Medellin(med) Supports A Bogota(bog)
A Mato Grosso Do Sul(mgd) - Paraguay(pgy) (*Bounce*)
A Mato Grosso(mgr) - Santa Cruz(scz) (*Fails*)
F Mid South Atlantic Ocean(msa) Supports F Western South Atlantic Ocean(wsa)
F Rio De Janeiro(rio) Supports F South West Atlantic(swa)
A Santander(stn) - Amazon Basin(amz) (*Bounce*)
F South West Atlantic(swa) Hold

California:
F Sonora(son) Hold (*Disbanded*)
F North East Pacific Ocean(nep) Hold (*Disbanded*)

Catholica:
A Atlas Mountains(ats) - Grand Erg Oriental(geo)
A Grand Erg Oriental(geo) - Ahaggar(aha)
F Khartoum(kha), no move received
A Libya(lib) Supports A Grand Erg Oriental(geo) - Ahaggar(aha)
F Morocco(mor) Supports F Western Mediterranean Sea(wmd) -
F Morocco(mor) Supports F Western Mediterranean Sea(wmd) - Eastern North Atlantic Ocean(ena)
F Gulf of Sirte(sir) Supports A Libya(lib)
A Tripoli(tri) Supports A Grand Erg Oriental(geo) - Ahaggar(aha)
A Tunisia(tun) Supports A Atlas Mountains(ats) - Grand Erg
A Tunisia(tun) Supports A Atlas Mountains(ats) - Grand Erg Oriental(geo)
F Bay of Biscay(bis) Supports F Eastern North Atlantic
F Bay of Biscay(bis) Supports F Eastern North Atlantic Ocean(ena) - North Atlantic Ocean(nat)
F Eastern Britain(ebr) - Irish Sea(iri)
F Edinburgh(edi) Supports F Eastern North Atlantic Ocean(ena) -
F Edinburgh(edi) Supports F Eastern North Atlantic Ocean(ena) - North Atlantic Ocean(nat)
F Eastern North Atlantic Ocean(ena) - North Atlantic Ocean(nat)
F Eastern North Sea(ens) Supports F Norwegian Sea(nwg)
F Ireland(ire) Supports F Eastern North Atlantic Ocean(ena) -
F Ireland(ire) Supports F Eastern North Atlantic Ocean(ena) - North Atlantic Ocean(nat)
F Norwegian Sea(nwg) Supports F Eastern North Atlantic
F Norwegian Sea(nwg) Supports F Eastern North Atlantic Ocean(ena) - North Atlantic Ocean(nat)
F Norway(nwy) Supports F Norwegian Sea(nwg)
F Portugal(por) Supports F Western Mediterranean Sea(wmd) -
F Portugal(por) Supports F Western Mediterranean Sea(wmd) - Eastern North Atlantic Ocean(ena)
F Spain(spa)(sc) Supports F Western Mediterranean Sea(wmd) -
F Spain(spa)(sc) Supports F Western Mediterranean Sea(wmd) - Eastern North Atlantic Ocean(ena)
A Sweden(swe) Hold
F Western Mediterranean Sea(wmd) - Eastern North Atlantic
F Western Mediterranean Sea(wmd) - Eastern North Atlantic Ocean(ena)
F Western North Sea(wns) Supports F Norwegian Sea(nwg)
A Pavlodar(pav) - Xinjiang(xin) (*Disbanded*)

Illinois:
A Acapulco(aca) Supports A Yucatan(yuc) - Guatamala(gml) (*Fails*)
F Bahamas(bhm) Supports F Guantanamo(gno)
F Belize(blz) Supports F Yucatan Basin(yub)
A Chihuahua(chu) Supports A Zacatcas(zac) - Sonora(son)
A Cienfuegos(cie) Supports F Guantanamo(gno)
A Coahuila(coa), no move received
F Eastern Gulf of Mexico(egm) Supports F Yucatan Basin(yub)
A Guadalajara(gdl) Supports A Coahuila(coa) - Zacatcas(zac) (*Void*)
F Guatamala(gml) - Guatamala Basin(gub) (*Fails*)
F Guantanamo(gno) Supports F Yucatan Basin(yub)
F Honduras(hon) Supports A Nicaragua(nic)
A Michoacan(mch) Hold
A Nicaragua(nic) Hold
F Yucatan Basin(yub) Supports F Guantanamo(gno) (*Cut*)
A Yucatan(yuc) - Guatamala(gml) (*Fails*)
A Zacatcas(zac) - Sonora(son)
F Iceland(ice) Supports F North Atlantic Ocean(nat) - Norwegian
F Iceland(ice) Supports F North Atlantic Ocean(nat) - Norwegian Sea(nwg)
F North Atlantic Ocean(nat) - Norwegian Sea(nwg) (*Disbanded*)
F Bering Sea(brg) Supports F Anchorage(anc) - Siberia(sib)
F Anchorage(anc) - Siberia(sib) (*Fails*)
A Arizona(arz) - Baja(baj) (*Fails*)
A Boston(bos) Hold
A Carolinas(car) Hold
F Cascadia Basin(cas) Supports F San Francisco(sf) - North East
F Cascadia Basin(cas) Supports F San Francisco(sf) - North East Pacific Ocean(nep)
F Gulf of Alaska(goa) Supports F San Francisco(sf) - North East
F Gulf of Alaska(goa) Supports F San Francisco(sf) - North East Pacific Ocean(nep)
F Greenland(grn) Supports F North Atlantic Ocean(nat) -
F Greenland(grn) Supports F North Atlantic Ocean(nat) - Norwegian Sea(nwg)
F Gulf of St Lawrence(gsl) Supports F Labrador Sea(lab)
F Halifax(hal) Supports F Gulf of St Lawrence(gsl)
F Hudson Bay(hud) Supports F Labrador Sea(lab)
A Idaho(ida) - Oregon(ore)
A Indiana(ind) - Ohio(ohi)
F Los Angeles(la) Supports F San Francisco(sf) - North East
F Los Angeles(la) Supports F San Francisco(sf) - North East Pacific Ocean(nep)
F Labrador Sea(lab) Supports F North Atlantic Ocean(nat) -
F Labrador Sea(lab) Supports F North Atlantic Ocean(nat) - Norwegian Sea(nwg)
A Memphis(mem) Hold
A New Brunswick(nb) Hold
A Nevada(nev) Supports F Los Angeles(la)
A New Mexico(nmx) Hold
F Newfoundland(nwf) Supports F Labrador Sea(lab)
A New York City(nyc) - Pennsylvania(pa) (*Bounce*)
F South East Coast(sec) Hold
F San Francisco(sf) - North East Pacific Ocean(nep)
A Utah(uta) - Arizona(arz) (*Fails*)
A Vancouver(van) - Anchorage(anc) (*Fails*)
A Washington(was) - Pennsylvania(pa) (*Bounce*)

India:
A Assam(asm), no move received
A Calcutta(cal), no move received
F Dhaka(dha), no move received
A Korat Plateau(krt), no move received
F Madras(mdr), no move received (*Disbanded*)
F Sri Lanka(sri), no move received
A Afghanistan(afg), no move received (*Disbanded*)

Nigeria:
A Ahaggar(aha) - Libya(lib) (*Disbanded*)
A Chad(cha) Supports A Ethiopia(eth) - Khartoum(kha)
F Dakar(dak) Supports F Mauritania(mau)
F Eastern South Atlantic Ocean(esa) Supports F Dakar(dak)
A Ethiopia(eth) - Khartoum(kha) (*Fails*)
F Ghana(gha), no move received
A Kano(kno) Supports A Chad(cha)
A Mali(mal) Supports F Mauritania(mau)
F Mauritania(mau) Supports F Dakar(dak)
A Niger(ngr) Supports A Ahaggar(aha) - Libya(lib)
A Tombouctou(tom) Supports A Niger(ngr)

Oceania:
F Arafura Sea(arf) Supports F New Guinea(ng)
A Darwin(dwn) Hold
F Jakarta(jak) Supports F Java Trench(jvt) - Palembang(plm)
F Micronesia(mic) Supports F New Guinea(ng)
F Nauru(nau) Supports F Central Pacific Ocean(cpo)
F New Caledonia(ncd) Hold
F New Guinea(ng), no move received
F Samoa(sam) Supports F Central Pacific Ocean(cpo)
F Timor Sea(tms) Supports F Jakarta(jak)
F Central Pacific Ocean(cpo) Supports F Hawaii(hi)
F Hawaii(hi) Supports F Central Pacific Ocean(cpo)
F Pitcairn Island(pit) Supports F Tahiti(tah)
F Ross Sea(ros) Supports F Pitcairn Island(pit)
F Tahiti(tah) Supports F Central Pacific Ocean(cpo)

Philippines:
F Gulf of Tongking(gto) Supports F South China Sea North(scn)
F Northern Philippine Sea(nps) Hold
F Okinawa(oki) Supports F Northern Philippine Sea(nps) (*Cut*)
F Saipan(sai) Supports F Northern Philippine Sea(nps)
F South China Sea North(scn) Hold
F Taiwan(tai) Supports F Northern Philippine Sea(nps)
F Ambon(amb) Hold
F Banda Sea(bnd) - Java Sea(jav) (*Fails*)
F Banjarmasin(bnj) - Kalimantan Barat(klb) (*Fails*)
F Bangkok(bnk), no move received
F Java Sea(jav) - Palembang(plm) (*Bounce*)
F Kuala Lumpur(kua) - Riau(ria) (*Dislodged*)
F Natuna Sea(ntu) Supports F Singapore(sng) (*Cut*)
F Singapore(sng) Supports F Java Sea(jav) - Palembang(plm)
F Midway Island(mdw) - West Central Pacific Ocean(wcp) (*Fails*)

SichuanEmpire:
F Akita(aki) - Tokyo(tok) (*Fails*)
F East China Sea(ecs) - Okinawa(oki) (*Fails*)
F Fuzhou(fuz) - South China Sea North(scn) (*Fails*)
A Guangxi Zhuangzu Zizhiqu(gnx) Supports A Hong Kong(hk)
A Guiyang(gyn) - Yunan(yun)
A Hong Kong(hk) Hold
A Khabarovsk(khb) Supports A Siberia(sib)
F Kyoto(kyo) Supports F Tokyo(tok) - Northern Philippine Sea(nps)
A Nagano(ngn) Hold
F North West Pacific Ocean(nwp) - North Central Pacific
F North West Pacific Ocean(nwp) - North Central Pacific Ocean(ncp)
A Qinghai(qng) - Xinjiang(xin)
F Sapporo(sap) - North West Pacific Ocean(nwp)
F Seoul(seo) - East China Sea(ecs) (*Fails*)
F Shanghai(sha) Supports F Seoul(seo) - East China Sea(ecs) (*Fails*)
A Siberia(sib) Hold
F Tokyo(tok) - Northern Philippine Sea(nps) (*Fails*)
F West Central Pacific Ocean(wcp) Supports F Tokyo(tok) -
F West Central Pacific Ocean(wcp) Supports F Tokyo(tok) - Northern Philippine Sea(nps) (*Cut*)
A Yunan(yun) - Hanoi(han)
A Delhi(del) Hold
A Laos(lao) - Bangkok(bnk) (*Fails*)
A Mandalay(mdl) Hold
A Rajasthan(raj) Supports A Karachi(kar) (*Cut*)
A Islamabad(isl) Supports A Karachi(kar)
A Karachi(kar) Hold (*Dislodged*)
A Kashmir(kas) Supports A Delhi(del)
A Novosibirsk(nsb) Supports A Tyva(tyv) - Pavlodar(pav)
A Srednesibirskoye Ploskogor'ye(srd) Supports A Novosibirsk(nsb)
A Tibet(tib), no move received
A Tyva(tyv) - Pavlodar(pav)
A Urumqi(umq) Supports A Qinghai(qng) - Xinjiang(xin)

SouthAfrica:
F Angola Basin(anb) Supports F St Helena(sth)
F Gulf of Guinea(gog) - Lagos(lag)
F Lubango(lub) Supports F South Atlantic Ocean(sat)
F Madagascar(mds) - Somali Basin(sob)
A Mombasa(mom) - Nairobi(nai)
F Somali Basin(sob) - North Indian Ocean(nio)
F Somalia(som) Supports F Madagascar(mds) - Somali Basin(sob)
F St Helena(sth) Supports F South Atlantic Ocean(sat)
A Sudan(sud) - Bangui(ban)
A Uganda(uga) - Kisangani(kis)
F Andaman Sea(and) - Rangoon(ran)
F Java Trench(jvt) - Palembang(plm) (*Bounce*)
F Kalimantan Barat(klb) - Natuna Sea(ntu) (*Fails*)
A Maharashtra(mhr) - Calcutta(cal) (*Fails*)
F North Indian Ocean(nio) - Madras(mdr)
F Palembang(plm) - Singapore(sng) (*Fails*)
A Riau(ria) - Kuala Lumpur(kua)
F Strait of Malacca(stm) Supports A Riau(ria) - Kuala Lumpur(kua)
F South West Indian Ocean(swi) Supports F South Atlantic
F South West Indian Ocean(swi) Supports F South Atlantic Ocean(sat)
F South Atlantic Ocean(sat) Supports F St Helena(sth)

Turkey:
A Egypt(egy) Supports F Khartoum(kha)
F Eastern Mediterranean Sea(emd) - Crete(cre)
F Red Sea(red) Supports F Khartoum(kha)
F Albania(alb) Hold
A Budapest(bud) Hold
A Jordan(jor) Hold
A Mecca(mec) Hold
A Omsk(oms) Supports A Kazakhstan(kaz)
A Volgograd(vol) Hold
F Arabian Sea(ara) - Karachi(kar)
F Bombay(bom) - Rajasthan(raj) (*Fails*)
F Gulf of Aden(gad), no move received
A Karnataka(krn) Supports F North Indian Ocean(nio) - Madras(mdr)
F Persian Gulf(peg) Supports F Arabian Sea(ara) - Karachi(kar)
A Almaty(alm) Hold
A Ashgabat(ash) Hold
A Baluchestan(blc) Supports F Arabian Sea(ara) - Karachi(kar)
A Kazakhstan(kaz) Supports A Omsk(oms)
A Shiraz(shi) - Afghanistan(afg)
A Uzbekistan(uzb) Supports A Shiraz(shi) - Afghanistan(afg)
A Zapadno-Sibirskaya Ravnina(zap) - Murmansk(mur)

UnitedStates:
F Antilles(ant) - Eastern Caribbean Sea(ecb) (*Bounce*)
F Hispaniola(his) Supports F Antilles(ant) - Eastern Caribbean
F Hispaniola(his) Supports F Antilles(ant) - Eastern Caribbean Sea(ecb)
F Puerto Rico(pr) Supports F Antilles(ant) - Eastern Caribbean
F Puerto Rico(pr) Supports F Antilles(ant) - Eastern Caribbean Sea(ecb)
F Sargasso Sea(sar) Supports F Antilles(ant) - Eastern Caribbean
F Sargasso Sea(sar) Supports F Antilles(ant) - Eastern Caribbean Sea(ecb)
F Azores(azo) - Eastern North Atlantic Ocean(ena) (*Fails*)
F Mid North Atlantic Ocean(mna) - Western South Atlantic
F Mid North Atlantic Ocean(mna) - Western South Atlantic Ocean(wsa) (*Fails*)
F North East Coast(nec) - Bermuda(bmd)

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