Agree! Until we meet again, my friend!

Jason

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From: gramario(at)tin.it
Subject: Re: DC101 Germany EOG
Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2008 14:24:44 +0000
To: jason4747(at)hotmail.com

Dear Jason, I really don't know what decision I would have taken as I was playing it pretty much turn by turn. I can tell you that if you had pulled back, T might not have had a solo victory, at least not so quickly. Indeed, I might be wrong but it seems to me that there were one or obstacles for Mike to have pulled it off by himself when we were still in the semi-stalemate stage as it were. It might even have resulted in a drawn game. You left me no choice by refusing to pull out.
gram. p.s. However, perhaps we need another game to sort out these and other thoughts, my friend.


On 11 Feb 2008, at 14:15, Jason 4747 wrote:
[quote:135d9d98f8]Gram, Good question. I have a partial answer, but it leads to another questions. Simply put, I did not pull back because I realized you had a solid alliance with Turkey, so I figured you were not going to attack him at all. Fair enough, but that only leads to two other possibilities - you attack me (Germany) or Russia. And you knew we were allied, an had no where else to go except lose to Turkey. So my question is, had I pulled back, what would your course of action be? Would you have attacked Turkey? It would be interesting to see what you were thinking. You had gone two turns without attacking or supporting any outside powers. I figured you were about to strike adn guessed it would be GER/RUS. Correct?Jason [quote:135d9d98f8] CC: gramario(at)tin.it ([email]gramario(at)tin.it[/email]); mike(at)southwall.com ([email]mike(at)southwall.com[/email]); aramis604(at)yahoo.com ([email]aramis604(at)yahoo.com[/email]); leeaclark(at)btinternet.com ([email]leeaclark(at)btinternet.com[/email]); dc101(at)diplomaticcorp.com ([email]dc101(at)diplomaticcorp.com[/email]); derekthefeared2(at)yahoo.com ([email]derekthefeared2(at)yahoo.com[/email]); m_don_j(at)hotmail.com ([email]m_don_j(at)hotmail.com[/email]); former.trout(at)gmail.com ([email]former.trout(at)gmail.com[/email]); leewarrentaylor(at)yahoo.co.uk ([email]leewarrentaylor(at)yahoo.co.uk[/email]); adamdlevy23(at)hotmail.com ([email]adamdlevy23(at)hotmail.com[/email]); ismarodri_uy(at)hotmail.com ([email]ismarodri_uy(at)hotmail.com[/email]); stevelytton(at)hotmail.com ([email]stevelytton(at)hotmail.com[/email]); vonpowell(at)aol.com ([email]vonpowell(at)aol.com[/email])From: gramario(at)tin.it ([email]gramario(at)tin.it[/email])Subject: Re: DC101 Germany EOGDate: Mon, 11 Feb 2008 08:17:16 +0000To: jason4747(at)hotmail.com ([email]jason4747(at)hotmail.com[/email])Many thanks to all. I'd just add one point. It was not that Austria had had enough. I had warned Ger that if he did not move out of my centres, I would "throw" the game Turkey's way. He did not, so I did. I am just wondering what would have happened if he had moved out of my centres? gram.
On 11 Feb 2008, at 01:35, Jason 4747 wrote:
[quote:135d9d98f8]Germany EOG Many thanks to Josh for an efficient, well well run game. And thanks to all the players as well, despite the outcome it was a fun last half of a game. I joined in late (I hate to see a DC game abandoned) an it is interesting starting out way under the gun. So, as mentioned, I decided that Turkey was the closest to victory, but England was going to wipe me out. So, he said he would take my centers he had already planned (which he did) then stop (which he did). From there, I united with Russia, with England as best I could, and with no help from France, decided to attack him with an eye at getting south to stop the Turks. Late in the game, I had to switch up and attack Austria because he took a solid neutral position - not attaking Russia or me, but not Turkey either. Anyway, I could not get that to work all that well (out of position and all), and I never could really help Italy as I had France on the door and the Austrians capable of moving it on a moments notice. After the last round or two, France turned, Austria had enough, and Turkey (wisely) made a move for the last few - it seems a solo was inevitable. So, Congratulations to Mike - good game. And for what it is worth, you basically did win this same game twice....Jason [quote:135d9d98f8] Subject: dc101 Turk EGSDate: Sat, 9 Feb 2008 19:39:19 -0800From: mike(at)southwall.com ([email]mike(at)southwall.com[/email])To: aramis604(at)yahoo.com ([email]aramis604(at)yahoo.com[/email]); jason4747(at)hotmail.com ([email]jason4747(at)hotmail.com[/email]); leeaclark(at)btinternet.com ([email]leeaclark(at)btinternet.com[/email]); dc101(at)diplomaticcorp.com ([email]dc101(at)diplomaticcorp.com[/email]); derekthefeared2(at)yahoo.com ([email]derekthefeared2(at)yahoo.com[/email]);gramario(at)tin.it ([email]gramario(at)tin.it[/email]); m_don_j(at)hotmail.com ([email]m_don_j(at)hotmail.com[/email]); former.trout(at)gmail.com ([email]former.trout(at)gmail.com[/email]); leewarrentaylor(at)yahoo.co.uk ([email]leewarrentaylor(at)yahoo.co.uk[/email]); adamdlevy23(at)hotmail.com ([email]adamdlevy23(at)hotmail.com[/email]);ismarodri_uy(at)hotmail.com ([email]ismarodri_uy(at)hotmail.com[/email])CC: stevelytton(at)hotmail.com ([email]stevelytton(at)hotmail.com[/email]); VonPowell(at)aol.com ([email]VonPowell(at)aol.com[/email])
Hey guys,
I’ll write a quick EGS for this one…

As Turkey, this game started off great for since both Russia (Lee T) and Italy (Ismael) ran into some problems. Not w attacks, but just with getting orders in. I think Russia missed one turn and then dropped, and Italy was missing them left and right. That left me with nobody to diplome with but Austria (Gram). So he was my natural ally, we hit it off well, and got into the south of Russia, and about then the new Russia took over (Lee C). By this time tho, I was lodged into Sev, so there really wasn’t any nice way to work w the new Russia, so we just carried on… expanding north and west, I was not going to stab Austria if at all possible, cuz he was the only one in the south that I really felt I could work with, and doing so would have left the game with everyone not talking to me. I mean sure I could talk to Mikael and Derek in the west, but they ultimately wanted me stopped I’m sure.

Let’s see what else… Germany getting those 4 first turn builds then missing them was odd! Then he managed to survive long enough to keep England and France from wiping him out, which helped me cuz E/F were my real threat to stop a win.

I have to say that had Trout and/or Jason come into the game a few turns sooner, it would have been a totally new game, cuz they did all they could to try to stop me, just a few turns too late. And Germany, with Austria between us, was in a tough spot to affect me at all. I was actually paranoid that I/G were going to make a play into Italy proper, but they never did. I think that might have given me some headaches if it had happened. Instead, Germany went for Austria, and that irritated him enough to want to help me more, since we’d been doing well together all game. And that was about it! Austria moved to defend his home centers, opening up the back side for me, and that was game.

Good game all, thanks to Josh for creating this awesome variant in Realpolitik and running a smooth game.
-mike

PS… Thank you all for voting for me! Perhaps I should go into politics.






From: Josh E. [mailto:aramis604(at)yahoo.com ([email]aramis604(at)yahoo.com[/email])]
By unanimous vote Turkey is the solo victor in DC101:1900! Mike, congratulations! You did a great job of dicing up your competition in light of some pretty long odds. T thank you all for playing in this one, I know there were a few rough obstacles to overcome throughout this game, but we've made it through. I must say I rather like the 1900 variant after completing this game. What are you thoughts?

It has been a pleasure running this game for all of you. Hopefully in the future we may have the opportunity to do it again.

- Josh

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