I think the point is that if you have to delay for personal reasons, that's fine. But you can still see the time e-mails and moves were sent in, in order to see if they were before the deadline.
You can also always grant an extension regardless of personal scheduling issues. If a 24-hour extension is inconvenient for you, extend it for 48 hours. Or extend it for 24-hours and then just put the game on hold until you get back. But don't deny it, unless you are going to deny every extension. Maybe the game slows down a bit, but that's a small price to pay for having everyone feel like the rules are fair.
Again, nobody is complaining about late adjudications. People are complaining about you sometimes waiting for late orders and other times adjudicating immediately.
Nobody is saying that your family should play second fiddle. But putting the game on hold IS better than showing preferential treatment to some players/requests. Much better.
I feel like you keep jumping to the conclusion that I/we are saying that visiting your family is not a good enough reason to delay the game. Delay the game! No problem. What is not cool is sometimes granting extensions or sometimes waiting for late orders. My suggestion for your games would be:
- Grant any extension request of up to 48 hours once per player. If that means a deadline falls at an inconvenient time for you, delay the adjudication, but not the deadline.
- Allow a grace period of 12 or 24 hours for late orders. Once per player, and only once.
- Do not propose that a specific player as a replacement and ask the players as a group if that's ok.
Above all, be fair and consistent in your rulings. Your family activities are more important than the game, but you can still schedule around your real life without comprimising fairness.
Jon
On Mon, Dec 22, 2008 at 4:23 PM, Rachael Jameson <verticallychallangedcutie(at)yahoo.com ([email]verticallychallangedcutie(at)yahoo.com[/email])> wrote:
First off let me start off by saying I have in no way shown any type of favoritism or have I tried to throw the game. I stated in the very opening email that if you NMR twice I replace you. When I had to replace Turkey it was because he ASKED to be replaced because he had some personal things to attend to. Secondly, I always said Prelims were always encouraged in case you couldn't be online for a turn. When I first denied the very first extension request it was because I was going out of town to visit family that I hadn't seen in 3 years ( my parents and little brother ). I worked the game around the time I was traveling and visiting instead of just putting the game on hold.
I don't understand what inconsistency you are referring to. ONE time I put out an adjudication slightly over 24 hours late. The player did send me his retreat and on a timely matter. I do have two young children and they come before any game I GM or play in. With Christmas approaching I figured you guys would understand that a little. My husband is also active duty Navy and works 12 hour days leaving me home with a 4 year old and a 1 year old.
As for adjudicating 2 hours past the deadline, that's EXTRA time you get to send in moves. I have every right to send the turn out at the 7pm deadline. I DO NOT have to give anyone a GRACE period. Ask any MOD or GM on this site and they will tell you the same thing. IF I was doing so poorly in my GMing I am pretty sure one of the two MODS I include in every turn would have pointed something out.
David: As for you not turning in moves I sent you a PERSONAL reminder 11:38am the day orders were due informing you I was missing your orders. You had a WEEK to get your orders in. Just because you got sick the day they were due doesn't excuse you not sending in orders. My very first game ever of dip I missed the deadline by 2 minutes and my GM did not let me send in orders he NMR'd me. When was this extension request you sent to me? I never recieved it or I probably would have granted it. You can ALWAYS change your moves up until you receive the adjudication in your inbox. More then one player in this game sends me several sets of orders all the way up until the deadline. So when a new player joins the game you get EXTRA time to think about orders and talk to the new player. I thought replacing a player without delay was a good thing! I don't like to play a country in CD if I don't have to. Everyone signed up to play a 7 player game why not do so until countries are elimanted.
If you all want to cancel the game that's fine, or for the players who still would like to play I can find replacements. There are more then enough players on the website who would be willing to play.
Mods: If you have seen anything I have done wrong please let me know. I don't think I have.
-Rachael
