| DC379 - 2011 Winter Blitz Round 2 - TrustMe (Mar 22, 2011, 7:31 am) |
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| DC379 - 2011 Winter Blitz Round 2 (Winter Blitz) TrustMe Mar 22, 03:37 pm |
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| DC375 WB ASSIGNMENTS - vegas_iwish (Mar 22, 2011, 2:27 am) |
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| DC377 - Welcome - WB 2011; Rnd 2 - stendaswargames (Mar 22, 2011, 12:46 am) |
The Italian Embassy is now open for business. Good luck everyone! I look forward to the game. I will be writing to you individually during the course of the
day!
Dorian Love
ICT Teacher
Roedean School (SA)
Tel: +27 (011) 647-3200
Fax: + 27 (086) 589-0231
From: Darryl Good [mailto:dipknight(at)gmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, March 22, 2011 4:25 AM
To: mcagar(at)hotmail.com; bret_pollack(at)hotmail.com; diplomacy(at)jeffreyk.com; Johnston.scott(at)comcast.net; RICH3520(at)AOL.COM; Dorian Love; untitled36(at)hotmail.com
Cc: blitz
Subject: DC377 - Welcome - WB 2011; Rnd 2
Welcome Players to Round 2 of Winter Blitz 2011. The Countries have been assigned by me with the intent to try and put you in a different location that you were in Round 1 (i.e. if you were on an edge in Round 1; you should now be located
on the opposite end of the map and closer to center or vice versa). The Countries are assigned as follows:
ID Country Name Email Location
AncientMemories England Phin Agar
mcagar(at)hotmail.com Weston, MA, US
bret_pollack Germany Bret Pollack
bret_pollack(at)hotmail.com Marriottsville, MD, US
JeffreyK France Jeffrey Krauss
diplomacy(at)jeffreyk.com Kirkland, WA, US
Koensig Austria Scott Johnston
Johnston.scott(at)comcast.net Federal Way, WA, US
RICH3520 Russia Rich Sloper
RICH3520(at)AOL.COM WILLISTON PARK, NY, US
Stendaswargames Italy Dorian Love
dlove(at)roedeanschool.co.za Johannesburg, Gauteng, ZA
untitled36 Turkey John Reside
untitled36(at)hotmail.com IL, US
You are all have already been told this throughout Round 1; however, I will repeat this one item because it is really important. Get in the habit of including
orders(at)diplomaticcorp.com in the "cc" of all your orders. If for some reason I fail to provide an adjudication, this will allow the moderators to step in. If they do step in and you did not "cc"
your orders to orders(at)diplomaticcorp.com, you will receive an NMR for the season. No second chances, no excuses received . . . you have been warned (multiple times, I am sure).
A few other things I would recommend; First, use "Preliminary" orders. Decide on a set of orders early and send me something . . . anything, just so long as you do not get caught by the deadline. You are welcome to send in as many sets
of orders you like. I will always use the last set received. Second, always send a complete set of orders. Even if you have 13 units and you are only making one change, send the full set of orders (it is simple to cut and paste). You are welcome to bold,
italic and/or highlight the change if you like; but always send a complete set. This will keep the confusion to a minimum. Next, please put "DC377", your Country, and the current season in the subject line of your emails (i.e. DC377, Austrian Orders, Spring
1901). This will help me find your orders efficiently. The last thing is to have fun. Remember, this is a game. No one is going to die because your neighbor stabbed you before you could stab him, or because he NMR'd and left you holding the bag. No need
to be hostile; just have fun. This will allow everyone to have fun . . . including the guy that might be your neighbor in the next game.
Remember, this is a fast paced Tournament; a full game year every week. On the other hand everyone is dealing with the same issue; time is short. Do the best you can with the time you have. If your neighbor is not responding as quickly
as you would like . . . well, he probably isn't responding to his other neighbors that well either. Course, there are other possibilities too . . . after all, this is Diplomacy.
Welcome . . . good luck, and let the lies begin. Spring 1901 Deadline; 24:00 hrs (GMT), Monday 28, 2011 = 6 PM (US EDT), Monday 28, 2011.
Your friendly, neighborhood GM.
Darryl (DipKnight(at)gmail.com)
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| dc360 - Spring 1911 Results - stendaswargames (Mar 22, 2011, 12:39 am) |
Sorry everyone. I didn’t get the adjudication till today, so NMRed, not on purpose.
Dorian Love
ICT Teacher
Roedean School (SA)
Tel: +27 (011) 647-3200
Fax: + 27 (086) 589-0231
From: blom.fredrik(at)gmail.com [mailto:blom.fredrik(at)gmail.com]
On Behalf Of Fredrik Blom
Sent: Monday, March 21, 2011 9:45 PM
To: alwayshunted(at)hotmail.com; babaktalebi(at)gmail.com; ddz999cat23(at)yahoo.com; dave(at)thekleimans.com; Johnston.scott(at)comcast.net; gnr.griffiths(at)gmail.com; Dorian Love
Cc: blitz(at)diplomaticcorp.com
Subject: dc360 - Spring 1911 Results
Diplomats,
Turkey and England/Germany is advancing on Russia. Will Russia be able to survive until the end-game?
Italy seems poised to do so as he's either been diplomatic enough to seal a deal with Turkey, or just made a lucky guess
England continues to try to invade Spain, still with no success.
No retreats needed - the Russian Army in Silesia has nowhere to retreat to. I still need your votes for the EGT eng game proposal that is on the table. Those who have sent me votes already need not send it to me again unless you change
yourt mind (though it does not hurt to confirm what your vote is going to be). Remember that should you not vote your vote will count as a "No" against the proposal.
Next turn: Fall 1911 Movement and votes.
Next Deadline: Thursday 24th of February 2011, 19:00 GMT (7PM).
England:
A Brest - Spain (*Fails*)
F English Channel Supports F Mid-Atlantic Ocean
F Gulf of Bothnia Supports A Livonia
A Livonia Supports A Berlin - Prussia (*Void*)
F Mid-Atlantic Ocean Supports A Brest - Spain (*Cut*)
F Norwegian Sea, no move received
F Portugal Supports A Brest - Spain
A St Petersburg Supports A Livonia
France:
F Marseilles, no move received
A Spain, no move received
Germany:
F Baltic Sea Supports A Berlin
A Belgium - Holland
A Berlin Supports A Munich - Silesia
A Burgundy Supports F Marseilles
A Gascony Supports A Brest - Spain
A Munich - Silesia
A Ruhr - Munich
Italy:
A Rome - Venice
F Tyrrhenian Sea - Tuscany
Russia:
A Moscow Supports A Prussia - Livonia
A Prussia - Livonia (*Fails*)
A Silesia - Prussia (*Disbanded*)
A Warsaw Supports A Moscow
Turkey:
A Ankara - Armenia
A Budapest - Galicia
A Constantinople - Bulgaria
F Gulf of Lyon Supports A Spain
F Ionian Sea - Aegean Sea
F North Africa - Mid-Atlantic Ocean (*Fails*)
A Piedmont Supports F Marseilles
A Trieste - Tyrolia
F Venice - Adriatic Sea
A Vienna - Bohemia
F Western Mediterranean Supports A Spain
Next turn: Fall 1911 Movement and votes.
Next Deadline: Thursday 24th of February 2011, 19:00 GMT (7PM).
/Fredrik
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| DC368 Spring 1904 - stendaswargames (Mar 22, 2011, 12:38 am) |
I am re-sending my last email in case there is confusion!
We have a new Turkey, welcome Nick!
Italian A Piedmont can retreat to Venice or OTB.
Austrian A Serbia can retreat to Albania or OTB.
Retreats due Tuesday 22 March 24:00 GMT (I am away for a few days so can’t do sooner)
Fall 1904 due Tuesday 29 march 24:00 GMT, which should give enough time for general diploming.
Austria:
A Serbia Hold (*Dislodged*)
England:
A Edinburgh - Norway
A Finland - St Petersburg
F Helgoland Bight - Denmark
A Kiel Supports A Ruhr - Munich
A London Hold
F North Sea Convoys A Edinburgh - Norway
F St Petersburg(nc) - Barents Sea
A Sweden Supports F Helgoland Bight - Denmark
France:
F Brest - Mid-Atlantic Ocean
F Gulf of Lyon Supports A Marseilles - Piedmont
F Holland Hold
A Marseilles - Piedmont
A Munich - Tyrolia (*Bounce*)
A Paris - Burgundy
F Rome - Tuscany
A Ruhr - Munich (*Fails*)
Germany:
A Bohemia - Galicia
Italy:
F Naples Supports F Tyrrhenian Sea - Rome
A Piedmont - Tyrolia (*Dislodged*)
A Trieste - Serbia
F Tunis - Ionian Sea (*Fails*)
F Tyrrhenian Sea - Rome
Russia:
F Baltic Sea - Gulf of Bothnia
A Budapest Supports A Trieste - Serbia
A Galicia - Rumania
A Livonia - Moscow
F Rumania - Black Sea
Turkey:
F Aegean Sea Hold
A Bulgaria Hold
F Constantinople Hold
A Greece Hold
F Ionian Sea Hold
Dorian Love
ICT Teacher
Roedean School (SA)
Tel: +27 (011) 647-3200
Fax: + 27 (086) 589-0231
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| DC350: Winter 1906 - Rocketship (Mar 22, 2011, 12:07 am) |
DC350: Winter 1906
France:
Remove A Edinburgh
Italy:
Build A Rome
Build F Naples
Russia:
Build F St Petersburg(nc)
Build waived
Spring 1907 is due at 05:00:00GMT on Sunday, March 27, 2011.
Cheers,
Matthew[Reply] |
| dc354 w04 builds! - waltersm1 (Mar 21, 2011, 10:15 pm) |
Who knew Barbarians were such sticklers for rules?
On 3/21/2011 3:32 PM, Jeff Hall wrote:
I don't believe that... I fully believe that the
Knights, Gnomes AND Fairies should all be held to the highest of
standards. Given a couple years of NMR, I might be able to piece
my beautiful country back together!
On Mon, Mar 21, 2011 at 3:23 PM, Garry
Bledsoe <kielmarch(at)hotmail.com>
wrote:
For the record I look at the numeric date only so no way I
expected today as the deadline...
Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry
-----Original Message-----
From: Michael Sims <mike(at)fuzzylogicllc.net>
Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2011 19:17:47
To: <alwayshunted(at)hotmail.com>;
<baz.dip(at)gmail.com>;
<welsh_stroud(at)msn.com>;
<kielmarch(at)hotmail.com>;
<githraine(at)yahoo.com>;
<dan.i.sinensky(at)gmail.com>;
<jdtsoft(at)jdtsoft.com>;
<justin(at)darkenedpath.com>;
<markjsmith60(at)gmail.com>;
<hall.jeff(at)gmail.com>;
<kelly058(at)verizon.net>;
<wealllovekatamari(at)yahoo.com>;
<ndeily(at)yahoo.com>;
<mrh(at)panix.com>;
<Maxatrest(at)yahoo.co.uk>;
<pjh5000(at)hotmail.com>;
<Spinozas(at)gmx.net>;
<tomjnkns.IL(at)gmail.com>;
<michael.alan.walters(at)gmail.com>;
<dc354(at)diplomaticcorp.com>
Subject: RE: dc354 w04 builds!
Monday is today!
However since I'm obviously not very good at math and I
counted out today being the 23rd, I can't really NMR
anyone so if I'm short anything I'll hold up till the 23rd
(Wed). But I did mean Monday... Honest. 
-mike
----------------
From: Michael Sims
Sent: Wed 3/16/2011 2:56 PM
To: alwayshunted(at)hotmail.com;
baz.dip(at)gmail.com;
welsh_stroud(at)msn.com;
Garry Bledsoe; Jason Koelewyn; dan.i.sinensky(at)gmail.com;
jdtsoft(at)jdtsoft.com;
justin(at)darkenedpath.com;
markjsmith60(at)gmail.com;
hall.jeff(at)gmail.com;
kelly058(at)verizon.net;
wealllovekatamari(at)yahoo.com;
ndeily(at)yahoo.com;
mrh(at)panix.com;
Maxatrest(at)yahoo.co.uk;
pjh5000(at)hotmail.com;
Spinozas(at)gmx.net;
tomjnkns.IL(at)gmail.com;
michael.alan.walters(at)gmail.com;
dc354
Subject: dc354 w04 builds!
At last our long-awaited builds! We bid the truly fondest
of fond farewells to our Archer and Centaur friends, and
also watch as the neglected empire of the Undead plunges
into the perpetual chaos of civil disorder. Fleets that
once sailed magically with tattered sails and hole-ridden
hulls mysteriously disappear in the Sea of Shadows while
skeletons on the beaches of Thunderhead collapse into
decaying piles of bones never to move again.
Archers: Remove A Critter Country
Barbarians: Remove A Arctic Barrens, A Shady Vale
Faeries: Build F Ella, A Vinyaya, A Spiral Castle
Hobbits: Build A Krikkit, A Lindon
Knights: Build A Arborlon
Ogres: Remove A Diamond Mines, F Lankhmar
Pirates: Build F Riku, F Never Never Land
Rogues: Build F Dargaard Keep
Trolls: Build A Niflheim
Undead: Defaults, removing F RIVER STYX, F WEST SEA OF
SHADOWS
Wizards: Remove A Shining Stream
NEXT: Spring 05 due next Monday 3/23, 3pm Central!
Enjoy,
-mike
--
The square root of soon is never[Reply] |
| DC 345: W1909 Adjustments - Blueraider0 (Mar 21, 2011, 9:54 pm) |
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| DC 338 Winter 2012 Results - derekthefeared2 (Mar 21, 2011, 9:45 pm) |
Here are the winter 2012 results. The battle conintues on. I will be away on vacation for a couple of days this week so we will set the next deadline for next Monday March 28th. 4:00 PM US Eastern time as usaul.
austria builds
army vienna
army budapest
England builds
A London
Italy
retreat otb anb build a fleet in NAP[Reply] |
| DC377 - Welcome - WB 2011; Rnd 2 - dipknight (Mar 21, 2011, 9:25 pm) |
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| DC377 - Welcome - WB 2011; Rnd 2 (Winter Blitz) stendaswargames Mar 22, 12:46 am |
The Italian Embassy is now open for business. Good luck everyone! I look forward to the game. I will be writing to you individually during the course of the
day!
Dorian Love
ICT Teacher
Roedean School (SA)
Tel: +27 (011) 647-3200
Fax: + 27 (086) 589-0231
From: Darryl Good [mailto:dipknight(at)gmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, March 22, 2011 4:25 AM
To: mcagar(at)hotmail.com; bret_pollack(at)hotmail.com; diplomacy(at)jeffreyk.com; Johnston.scott(at)comcast.net; RICH3520(at)AOL.COM; Dorian Love; untitled36(at)hotmail.com
Cc: blitz
Subject: DC377 - Welcome - WB 2011; Rnd 2
Welcome Players to Round 2 of Winter Blitz 2011. The Countries have been assigned by me with the intent to try and put you in a different location that you were in Round 1 (i.e. if you were on an edge in Round 1; you should now be located
on the opposite end of the map and closer to center or vice versa). The Countries are assigned as follows:
ID Country Name Email Location
AncientMemories England Phin Agar
mcagar(at)hotmail.com Weston, MA, US
bret_pollack Germany Bret Pollack
bret_pollack(at)hotmail.com Marriottsville, MD, US
JeffreyK France Jeffrey Krauss
diplomacy(at)jeffreyk.com Kirkland, WA, US
Koensig Austria Scott Johnston
Johnston.scott(at)comcast.net Federal Way, WA, US
RICH3520 Russia Rich Sloper
RICH3520(at)AOL.COM WILLISTON PARK, NY, US
Stendaswargames Italy Dorian Love
dlove(at)roedeanschool.co.za Johannesburg, Gauteng, ZA
untitled36 Turkey John Reside
untitled36(at)hotmail.com IL, US
You are all have already been told this throughout Round 1; however, I will repeat this one item because it is really important. Get in the habit of including
orders(at)diplomaticcorp.com in the "cc" of all your orders. If for some reason I fail to provide an adjudication, this will allow the moderators to step in. If they do step in and you did not "cc"
your orders to orders(at)diplomaticcorp.com, you will receive an NMR for the season. No second chances, no excuses received . . . you have been warned (multiple times, I am sure).
A few other things I would recommend; First, use "Preliminary" orders. Decide on a set of orders early and send me something . . . anything, just so long as you do not get caught by the deadline. You are welcome to send in as many sets
of orders you like. I will always use the last set received. Second, always send a complete set of orders. Even if you have 13 units and you are only making one change, send the full set of orders (it is simple to cut and paste). You are welcome to bold,
italic and/or highlight the change if you like; but always send a complete set. This will keep the confusion to a minimum. Next, please put "DC377", your Country, and the current season in the subject line of your emails (i.e. DC377, Austrian Orders, Spring
1901). This will help me find your orders efficiently. The last thing is to have fun. Remember, this is a game. No one is going to die because your neighbor stabbed you before you could stab him, or because he NMR'd and left you holding the bag. No need
to be hostile; just have fun. This will allow everyone to have fun . . . including the guy that might be your neighbor in the next game.
Remember, this is a fast paced Tournament; a full game year every week. On the other hand everyone is dealing with the same issue; time is short. Do the best you can with the time you have. If your neighbor is not responding as quickly
as you would like . . . well, he probably isn't responding to his other neighbors that well either. Course, there are other possibilities too . . . after all, this is Diplomacy.
Welcome . . . good luck, and let the lies begin. Spring 1901 Deadline; 24:00 hrs (GMT), Monday 28, 2011 = 6 PM (US EDT), Monday 28, 2011.
Your friendly, neighborhood GM.
Darryl (DipKnight(at)gmail.com)
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| DC377 - Welcome - WB 2011; Rnd 2 (Winter Blitz) dipknight Mar 22, 01:06 pm |
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| DC377 - Welcome - WB 2011; Rnd 2 (Winter Blitz) AncientMemories Mar 23, 03:48 pm |
Woops, wasn't checking my email. I'm opening embassies, expect to hear from my ambassadors soon.
Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2011 12:06:16 -0600
Subject: Re: DC377 - Welcome - WB 2011; Rnd 2
From: dipknight(at)gmail.com
To: mcagar(at)hotmail.com; bret_pollack(at)hotmail.com; diplomacy(at)jeffreyk.com; Johnston.scott(at)comcast.net; RICH3520(at)aol.com; dlove(at)roedeanschool.co.za; untitled36(at)hotmail.com
CC: blitz(at)diplomaticcorp.com
Minor error at the bottom of this message. The Deadline is 24:00 hours on Monday 28; but, that is equivalent to 8 pm on Monday (US EDT), not the 6:00 pm listed. It is equivalent to 6 pm on Monday where I am (US MDT). Hope I didn't cause too much confusion with that one.
If you need help figuring out what the equivalent time for 24:00 (GMT) is at your Time Zone please drop me a line and I will provide any assistance that I can.
Thanks,
Darryl
On Mon, Mar 21, 2011 at 8:25 PM, Darryl Good <dipknight(at)gmail.com> wrote:
Welcome Players to Round 2 of Winter Blitz 2011. The Countries have been assigned by me with the intent to try and put you in a different location that you were in Round 1 (i.e. if you were on an edge in Round 1; you should now be located on the opposite end of the map and closer to center or vice versa). The Countries are assigned as follows:
ID Country Name Email Location
AncientMemories England Phin Agar mcagar(at)hotmail.com Weston, MA, US
bret_pollack Germany Bret Pollack bret_pollack(at)hotmail.com Marriottsville, MD, US
JeffreyK France Jeffrey Krauss diplomacy(at)jeffreyk.com Kirkland, WA, US
Koensig Austria Scott Johnston Johnston.scott(at)comcast.net Federal Way, WA, US
RICH3520 Russia Rich Sloper RICH3520(at)AOL.COM WILLISTON PARK, NY, US
Stendaswargames Italy Dorian Love dlove(at)roedeanschool.co.za Johannesburg, Gauteng, ZA
untitled36 Turkey John Reside untitled36(at)hotmail.com IL, US
You are all have already been told this throughout Round 1; however, I will repeat this one item because it is really important. Get in the habit of including orders(at)diplomaticcorp.com in the "cc" of all your orders. If for some reason I fail to provide an adjudication, this will allow the moderators to step in. If they do step in and you did not "cc" your orders to orders(at)diplomaticcorp.com, you will receive an NMR for the season. No second chances, no excuses received . . . you have been warned (multiple times, I am sure).
A few other things I would recommend; First, use "Preliminary" orders. Decide on a set of orders early and send me something . . . anything, just so long as you do not get caught by the deadline. You are welcome to send in as many sets of orders you like. I will always use the last set received. Second, always send a complete set of orders. Even if you have 13 units and you are only making one change, send the full set of orders (it is simple to cut and paste). You are welcome to bold, italic and/or highlight the change if you like; but always send a complete set. This will keep the confusion to a minimum. Next, please put "DC377", your Country, and the current season in the subject line of your emails (i.e. DC377, Austrian Orders, Spring 1901). This will help me find your orders efficiently. The last thing is to have fun. Remember, this is a game. No one is going to die because your neighbor stabbed you before you could stab him, or because he NMR'd and left you holding the bag. No need to be hostile; just have fun. This will allow everyone to have fun . . . including the guy that might be your neighbor in the next game.
Remember, this is a fast paced Tournament; a full game year every week. On the other hand everyone is dealing with the same issue; time is short. Do the best you can with the time you have. If your neighbor is not responding as quickly as you would like . . . well, he probably isn't responding to his other neighbors that well either. Course, there are other possibilities too . . . after all, this is Diplomacy.
Welcome . . . good luck, and let the lies begin. Spring 1901 Deadline; 24:00 hrs (GMT), Monday 28, 2011 = 6 PM (US EDT), Monday 28, 2011.
Your friendly, neighborhood GM.
Darryl (DipKnight(at)gmail.com) |
| DC377 - Welcome - WB 2011; Rnd 2 (Winter Blitz) AncientMemories Mar 28, 02:27 pm |
Has anyone else gotten confirmation emails back from dipknight?
I am not sure my email went to the right person, since no response. |
| DC377 - Welcome - WB 2011; Rnd 2 (Winter Blitz) untitled36 Mar 28, 04:09 pm |
I've got a couple replies from him. All I can say is make sure you copied to the orders box, just in case....
John
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| DC377 - Welcome - WB 2011; Rnd 2 (Winter Blitz) AncientMemories Mar 28, 05:35 pm |
Huh. I did, so i should be fine, but it's odd he's replied to some of us but not all of us (someone else also wrote saying he didn't get a confirmation reply)
From: untitled36(at)hotmail.com
To: mcagar(at)hotmail.com; dipknight(at)gmail.com; bret_pollack(at)hotmail.com; diplomacy(at)jeffreyk.com; johnston.scott(at)comcast.net; rich3520(at)aol.com; dlove(at)roedeanschool.co.za
CC: blitz(at)diplomaticcorp.com
Subject: RE: DC377 - Welcome - WB 2011; Rnd 2
Date: Mon, 28 Mar 2011 16:09:31 -0500
I've got a couple replies from him. All I can say is make sure you copied to the orders box, just in case....
John
From: mcagar(at)hotmail.com
To: dipknight(at)gmail.com; bret_pollack(at)hotmail.com; diplomacy(at)jeffreyk.com; johnston.scott(at)comcast.net; rich3520(at)aol.com; dlove(at)roedeanschool.co.za; untitled36(at)hotmail.com
CC: blitz(at)diplomaticcorp.com
Subject: RE: DC377 - Welcome - WB 2011; Rnd 2
Date: Mon, 28 Mar 2011 15:27:32 -0400
Has anyone else gotten confirmation emails back from dipknight?
I am not sure my email went to the right person, since no response. |
| DC377 - Welcome - WB 2011; Rnd 2 (Winter Blitz) dipknight Mar 28, 05:57 pm |
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| dc358 game over! - sunchung (Mar 21, 2011, 4:29 pm) |
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| dc358 game over! - FuzzyLogic (Mar 21, 2011, 4:13 pm) |
"Oddly enough, the completely absent England gets credit for a 1-center survival."
How funny. Survived 10 years w/o an order. Perhaps he should be playing in the DCI, might have done better than I did. 
-mike
From: Cory Burris [mailto:coryfucius(at)yahoo.com]
Sent: Mon 3/21/2011 3:57 PM
To: Garry Bledsoe; blitz; Sun Chung; Thomas Fletcher; Jeffrey Krauss; Kon Lederer; Bruce Ray; Michael Sims; Jack Taylor; Christian Wen
Subject: dc358 game over!
The 4-way AGIT draw is accepted by all 4 active players. Congratulations to all of you! (England, with far more than 4 consecutive NMRs, is assumed to vote yes as well.)
It's certainly unfortunate that the game dynamics were compromised from the start, but I don't have a way to drag missing players back into the game. Oddly enough, the completely absent England gets credit for a 1-center survival.
Thanks for playing, and I hope to see you again soon in another game!
Cory
P.S. The results from winter 1910, the last season of the game, are attached for your reference.[Reply] |
| dc358 game over! - tfletch33 (Mar 21, 2011, 4:00 pm) |
Sweet!
Great game all!
Fletcher
From: Cory Burris <coryfucius(at)yahoo.com>
To: Garry Bledsoe <kielmarch(at)hotmail.com>; Winter Blitz <blitz(at)diplomaticcorp.com>; Sun Chung <sun.chung(at)gmail.com>; Thomas Fletcher <tfletch33(at)yahoo.com>; Jeffrey Krauss <diplomacy(at)jeffreyk.com>; Kon Lederer <konworldwide(at)gmail.com>; Bruce Ray <raybrucea(at)aol.com>; Michael Sims <mike(at)fuzzylogicllc.net>; Jack Taylor <smt125(at)hotmail.com>; Christian Wen <christian.wen(at)gmail.com>
Sent: Mon, March 21, 2011 12:57:49 PM
Subject: dc358 game over!
The 4-way AGIT draw is accepted by all 4 active players. Congratulations to all of you! (England, with far more than 4 consecutive NMRs, is assumed to vote yes as well.)
It's certainly unfortunate that the game dynamics were compromised from the start, but I don't have a way to drag missing players back into the game. Oddly enough, the completely absent England gets credit for a 1-center survival.
Thanks for playing, and I hope to see you again soon in another game!
Cory
P.S. The results from winter 1910, the last season of the game, are attached for your reference.[Reply] |
| dc358 game over! - coryfucius (Mar 21, 2011, 3:57 pm) |
The 4-way AGIT draw is accepted by all 4 active players. Congratulations to all of you! (England, with far more than 4 consecutive NMRs, is assumed to vote yes as well.)
It's certainly unfortunate that the game dynamics were compromised from the start, but I don't have a way to drag missing players back into the game. Oddly enough, the completely absent England gets credit for a 1-center survival.
Thanks for playing, and I hope to see you again soon in another game!
Cory
P.S. The results from winter 1910, the last season of the game, are attached for your reference.[Reply] |
| dc358 game over! (Winter Blitz) tfletch33 Mar 21, 04:00 pm |
Sweet!
Great game all!
Fletcher
From: Cory Burris <coryfucius(at)yahoo.com>
To: Garry Bledsoe <kielmarch(at)hotmail.com>; Winter Blitz <blitz(at)diplomaticcorp.com>; Sun Chung <sun.chung(at)gmail.com>; Thomas Fletcher <tfletch33(at)yahoo.com>; Jeffrey Krauss <diplomacy(at)jeffreyk.com>; Kon Lederer <konworldwide(at)gmail.com>; Bruce Ray <raybrucea(at)aol.com>; Michael Sims <mike(at)fuzzylogicllc.net>; Jack Taylor <smt125(at)hotmail.com>; Christian Wen <christian.wen(at)gmail.com>
Sent: Mon, March 21, 2011 12:57:49 PM
Subject: dc358 game over!
The 4-way AGIT draw is accepted by all 4 active players. Congratulations to all of you! (England, with far more than 4 consecutive NMRs, is assumed to vote yes as well.)
It's certainly unfortunate that the game dynamics were compromised from the start, but I don't have a way to drag missing players back into the game. Oddly enough, the completely absent England gets credit for a 1-center survival.
Thanks for playing, and I hope to see you again soon in another game!
Cory
P.S. The results from winter 1910, the last season of the game, are attached for your reference. |
| dc358 game over! (Winter Blitz) FuzzyLogic Mar 21, 04:13 pm |
"Oddly enough, the completely absent England gets credit for a 1-center survival."
How funny. Survived 10 years w/o an order. Perhaps he should be playing in the DCI, might have done better than I did.
-mike
From: Cory Burris [mailto:coryfucius(at)yahoo.com]
Sent: Mon 3/21/2011 3:57 PM
To: Garry Bledsoe; blitz; Sun Chung; Thomas Fletcher; Jeffrey Krauss; Kon Lederer; Bruce Ray; Michael Sims; Jack Taylor; Christian Wen
Subject: dc358 game over!
The 4-way AGIT draw is accepted by all 4 active players. Congratulations to all of you! (England, with far more than 4 consecutive NMRs, is assumed to vote yes as well.)
It's certainly unfortunate that the game dynamics were compromised from the start, but I don't have a way to drag missing players back into the game. Oddly enough, the completely absent England gets credit for a 1-center survival.
Thanks for playing, and I hope to see you again soon in another game!
Cory
P.S. The results from winter 1910, the last season of the game, are attached for your reference. |
| dc358 game over! (Winter Blitz) sunchung Mar 21, 04:29 pm |
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| dc358 game over! (Winter Blitz) JeffreyK Mar 23, 09:50 pm |
Thanks for an interesting game everyone! And, extra thanks to our GM - Cory was incredibly patient with the constant voting!
I'll admit that this was a strange game all around - from a missing England to partially missing Russia and France to rapidly shifting landscape of alliances, rarely did a few years go by where the game completely changed where I thought it was going!
Thanks
-Jeff
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| dc360 - Spring 1911 Results - z93blom (Mar 21, 2011, 2:45 pm) |
[Reply] |
| dc360 - Spring 1911 Results (Winter Blitz) stendaswargames Mar 22, 12:39 am |
Sorry everyone. I didn’t get the adjudication till today, so NMRed, not on purpose.
Dorian Love
ICT Teacher
Roedean School (SA)
Tel: +27 (011) 647-3200
Fax: + 27 (086) 589-0231
From: blom.fredrik(at)gmail.com [mailto:blom.fredrik(at)gmail.com]
On Behalf Of Fredrik Blom
Sent: Monday, March 21, 2011 9:45 PM
To: alwayshunted(at)hotmail.com; babaktalebi(at)gmail.com; ddz999cat23(at)yahoo.com; dave(at)thekleimans.com; Johnston.scott(at)comcast.net; gnr.griffiths(at)gmail.com; Dorian Love
Cc: blitz(at)diplomaticcorp.com
Subject: dc360 - Spring 1911 Results
Diplomats,
Turkey and England/Germany is advancing on Russia. Will Russia be able to survive until the end-game?
Italy seems poised to do so as he's either been diplomatic enough to seal a deal with Turkey, or just made a lucky guess
England continues to try to invade Spain, still with no success.
No retreats needed - the Russian Army in Silesia has nowhere to retreat to. I still need your votes for the EGT eng game proposal that is on the table. Those who have sent me votes already need not send it to me again unless you change
yourt mind (though it does not hurt to confirm what your vote is going to be). Remember that should you not vote your vote will count as a "No" against the proposal.
Next turn: Fall 1911 Movement and votes.
Next Deadline: Thursday 24th of February 2011, 19:00 GMT (7PM).
England:
A Brest - Spain (*Fails*)
F English Channel Supports F Mid-Atlantic Ocean
F Gulf of Bothnia Supports A Livonia
A Livonia Supports A Berlin - Prussia (*Void*)
F Mid-Atlantic Ocean Supports A Brest - Spain (*Cut*)
F Norwegian Sea, no move received
F Portugal Supports A Brest - Spain
A St Petersburg Supports A Livonia
France:
F Marseilles, no move received
A Spain, no move received
Germany:
F Baltic Sea Supports A Berlin
A Belgium - Holland
A Berlin Supports A Munich - Silesia
A Burgundy Supports F Marseilles
A Gascony Supports A Brest - Spain
A Munich - Silesia
A Ruhr - Munich
Italy:
A Rome - Venice
F Tyrrhenian Sea - Tuscany
Russia:
A Moscow Supports A Prussia - Livonia
A Prussia - Livonia (*Fails*)
A Silesia - Prussia (*Disbanded*)
A Warsaw Supports A Moscow
Turkey:
A Ankara - Armenia
A Budapest - Galicia
A Constantinople - Bulgaria
F Gulf of Lyon Supports A Spain
F Ionian Sea - Aegean Sea
F North Africa - Mid-Atlantic Ocean (*Fails*)
A Piedmont Supports F Marseilles
A Trieste - Tyrolia
F Venice - Adriatic Sea
A Vienna - Bohemia
F Western Mediterranean Supports A Spain
Next turn: Fall 1911 Movement and votes.
Next Deadline: Thursday 24th of February 2011, 19:00 GMT (7PM).
/Fredrik
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| dc354 w04 builds! - laxrulz777 (Mar 21, 2011, 2:32 pm) |
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| dc354 w04 builds! - garry.bledsoe (Mar 21, 2011, 2:23 pm) |
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| dc354 w04 builds! - FuzzyLogic (Mar 21, 2011, 2:17 pm) |
Monday is today!
However since I'm obviously not very good at math and I counted out today being the 23rd, I can't really NMR anyone so if I'm short anything I'll hold up till the 23rd (Wed). But I did mean Monday... Honest.
-mike
From: Michael Sims
Sent: Wed 3/16/2011 2:56 PM
To: alwayshunted(at)hotmail.com; baz.dip(at)gmail.com; welsh_stroud(at)msn.com; Garry Bledsoe; Jason Koelewyn; dan.i.sinensky(at)gmail.com; jdtsoft(at)jdtsoft.com; justin(at)darkenedpath.com; markjsmith60(at)gmail.com; hall.jeff(at)gmail.com; kelly058(at)verizon.net; wealllovekatamari(at)yahoo.com; ndeily(at)yahoo.com; mrh(at)panix.com; Maxatrest(at)yahoo.co.uk; pjh5000(at)hotmail.com; Spinozas(at)gmx.net; tomjnkns.IL(at)gmail.com; michael.alan.walters(at)gmail.com; dc354
Subject: dc354 w04 builds!
At last our long-awaited builds! We bid the truly fondest of fond farewells to our Archer and Centaur friends, and also watch as the neglected empire of the Undead plunges into the perpetual chaos of civil disorder. Fleets that once sailed magically with tattered sails and hole-ridden hulls mysteriously disappear in the Sea of Shadows while skeletons on the beaches of Thunderhead collapse into decaying piles of bones never to move again.
Archers: Remove A Critter Country
Barbarians: Remove A Arctic Barrens, A Shady Vale
Faeries: Build F Ella, A Vinyaya, A Spiral Castle
Hobbits: Build A Krikkit, A Lindon
Knights: Build A Arborlon
Ogres: Remove A Diamond Mines, F Lankhmar
Pirates: Build F Riku, F Never Never Land
Rogues: Build F Dargaard Keep
Trolls: Build A Niflheim
Undead: Defaults, removing F RIVER STYX, F WEST SEA OF SHADOWS
Wizards: Remove A Shining Stream
NEXT: Spring 05 due next Monday 3/23, 3pm Central!
Enjoy,
-mike
[Reply] |
| Vedr. DC349 1st Strike S05 results - Sean2010 (Mar 21, 2011, 1:17 pm) |
Hello Everyone,
Svenn is correct. This is my error. Apparently, I hadn't scurried my box far enough back to locate it. Not only has Svenn supplied my confirmation mail; I was able to locate the Svenn's orders. I'll send out the corrected map later tonight.
Expected map changes:
AF Adr from Ion
AF Ion from Tun
AA Tri from Pie
Austria:
F Adr can only retreat to Alb or disbanded. (Adr S Tri blown away)
A Tri can retreat to Bud, Ser, or Alb.
For map correction purposes via edit, I'll be placing Adr in Alb and Tri in Ser.
Sum05 retreats due Wednesday 3-23-11 by 11:59 PM please.
My apologies for the error, and thank you Svenn for checking my work.
from Sean
PS, I apologize for my errors; I honestly didn't expect so many errors with my first attempt GMing.
[Reply] |
| Vedr. DC349 1st Strike S05 results - HectorRottweiler (Mar 21, 2011, 12:07 pm) |
This is wrong! Ive issued the moves twice!! Both to sean and mike.
Mails sendt:
shouldnt need them, Sean is back and has control.
-mike
From: Svenn Kristoffersen [mailto:svennkristoffersen(at)yahoo.no]
Sent: Fri 3/18/2011 7:21 AM
To: Michael Sims
Subject: DC349 - Italy - Spring 1905 - version 1
I sendt theese to Sean: Incase you havnet got them. here is the orders:
--- Den ons 2011-02-16 skrev Sean O'Donnell <sean_o_donnell(at)hotmail.com>:
Fra: Sean O'Donnell <sean_o_donnell(at)hotmail.com>
Emne: RE: DC349 - Italy - Spring 1905 - version 1
Til: "Svenn Kristoffersen DC" <svennkristoffersen(at)yahoo.no>
Dato: Onsdag 16. februar 2011 22.46
confirmed
Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2011 20:11:35 +0000
From: svennkristoffersen(at)yahoo.no
Subject: DC349 - Italy -
Spring 1905 - version 1
To: sean_o_donnell(at)hotmail.com
army Ven support army Pie to Trl army Pie move to Trl
fleet Apu support fleet Ion to Adr
fleet Ion move to Adr
fleet Tun move to Ion
fleet Nap support fleet Tun to Ion
--- Den l??r 2011-03-19 skrev Sean O'Donnell <sean_o_donnell(at)hotmail.com>:
Fra: Sean O'Donnell <sean_o_donnell(at)hotmail.com>
Emne: DC349 1st Strike S05 results
Til: "Jyri Syrj?? DC" <jyjusy(at)hotmail.com>, "DC349" <dc349(at)diplomaticcorp.com>, "Lee Clark DC" <leeaclark(at)btinternet.com>, "MICHAEL BOUTOT vegas_iwish DC GM" <vegas_iwish(at)yahoo.com>, "Stu Hobbs DC" <stuhobbs(at)gmail.com>, "Stuart Winch DC" <stuartandmaria(at)googlemail.com>, "Svenn Kristoffersen DC" <svennkristoffersen(at)yahoo.no>
Dato:
L??rdag 19. mars 2011 15.45
F05 orders are due 3-25-11 by 11:59 PM.
S05:
Austria:
Army con to ank
Army gal to vie
Army tri Supports Army trl
Army boh Supports Army trl
Army trl Supports Army boh
Fleet gre Hold
Fleet adr Supports Army tri
England:
Fl Mao - Nao
Fl Eng C A Edi -Bre
Fl Nth C A Edi -Bre
A Lon H
A Hol H
Fl Bel S Fl Nth H
A Edi ??? Bre
Germany:
A MUN S A BER
A BER S A MUN
A KIE S A MUN
A DEN ??? SWE
Italy:
A Pie NMR
A Ven NMR
F Apu NMR
F Nap NMR
F Ion NMR
F Tun NMR
Russia:
F sev to bla
A mos to sev
A war to pru
A sil supports A war to pru
F aeg to ion
F nor to ska
A stp to nor
A swe supports A stp to nor
Turkey:
F Arm - Ank
Side note, I made a mapping error; hence, the file name S05 results correction. I goofed Turkey's movement, and I had to edit the map.
from Sean[Reply] |
| Vedr. DC349 1st Strike S05 results (dc349) Sean2010 Mar 21, 01:17 pm |
Hello Everyone,
Svenn is correct. This is my error. Apparently, I hadn't scurried my box far enough back to locate it. Not only has Svenn supplied my confirmation mail; I was able to locate the Svenn's orders. I'll send out the corrected map later tonight.
Expected map changes:
AF Adr from Ion
AF Ion from Tun
AA Tri from Pie
Austria:
F Adr can only retreat to Alb or disbanded. (Adr S Tri blown away)
A Tri can retreat to Bud, Ser, or Alb.
For map correction purposes via edit, I'll be placing Adr in Alb and Tri in Ser.
Sum05 retreats due Wednesday 3-23-11 by 11:59 PM please.
My apologies for the error, and thank you Svenn for checking my work.
from Sean
PS, I apologize for my errors; I honestly didn't expect so many errors with my first attempt GMing.
|
| DC 373: Orders due tomorrow - AceRimmer (Mar 21, 2011, 9:09 am) |
| Orders are due tomorrow at 10:00 a.m. CST. I have confirmed all orders that I have received so far. [Reply] |
| DC 359 Spring 11 Adjucation - untitled36 (Mar 21, 2011, 8:35 am) |
*Italians Kick France Out of Ionian*
*Vienna inevitably Falls*
*Demonstrators Urge World Peace*
Hey all,
I think we all expected Vienna to fall this season, though Turkey put up a valiant defense. The really interesting change, though, was Italy regaining control of the Ionian. This dislodged the Ionian fleet, allowing it to retreat to Eastern Med. In the midst of all this wholesale carnage, peace is proposed once again, with an E/F draw on the table. Does it have any hope of success this time around? Only time will tell.
Also, today should begin round two of the Blitz. Typically they do a good job of mixing up players, so it's unlikely any of you will be together again, but there's a fair chance I might be on a board with one or two of you (either as a player or GM). I'm looking forward to it. This one has been a good game so far, and you guys have done a great job getting those orders in on time! And of course, there are no hard cut-offs to the round one game, so we can keep this one going for as long as it takes! There appears to be three round one games still going on.
Also, Since French F Ionian could only retreat to Eastern Med, I took the liberty of doing so. OTB is always an option. If I don't hear anything by 8:00 AM CST tomorrow, the retreat to Eastern Me d will stand. Besides that, Moves and votes are due thursday at 8:00 AM CST (13:00 GMT).
John
England:
F Baltic Sea Hold
A Livonia Supports A St Petersburg - Moscow (*Fails*)
A Moscow - Ukraine (*Fails*)
F North Africa - Tunis
F North Sea Hold
A Prussia - Warsaw (*Fails*)
A Silesia Supports A Warsaw - Galicia
A St Petersburg - Moscow (*Bounce*)
A Warsaw - Galicia (*Bounce*)
F Western Mediterranean Hold
France:
F Adriatic Sea Supports F Ionian Sea - Albania
F Apulia Supports F Tunis - Ionian Sea (*Fails*)
A Berlin - Munich
A Bohemia Supports A Tyrolia - Vienna
A Galicia - Budapest (*Fails*)
F Ionian Sea - Albania (*Dislodged*)
A Munich - Tyrolia
A Tyrolia - Vienna
F Tyrrhenian Sea Supports F Tunis - Ionian Sea (*Fails*)
Italy:
F Naples Supports F Tunis - Ionian Sea
A Rome - Venice (*Fails*)
F Tunis - Ionian Sea
A Venice - Trieste (*Fails*)
Turkey:
F Albania Supports A Trieste (*Cut*)
A Budapest Supports A Vienna (*Cut*)
F Constantinople - Black Sea
F Eastern Mediterranean - Aegean Sea
F Greece Supports F Albania
A Rumania Supports A Ukraine - Galicia
A Sevastopol - Moscow (*Bounce*)
A Smyrna - Constantinople
A Trieste Supports A Vienna (*Cut*)
A Ukraine - Galicia (*Bounce*)
A Vienna Supports A Trieste (*Disbanded*)[Reply] |
| DC350: Fall 1906 - Rocketship (Mar 20, 2011, 11:19 pm) |
Hey Folks,
24h for Winter, 1906. The Russian retreat stands. I'm just missing build orders from Russia, at this point.
Cheers,
Matthew
On Mar 19, 2011, at 9:19 PM, Rocketship wrote:
DC350: Fall 1906
We're once again missing German orders, so another NMR is issued. As this is the second consecutive NMR, Germany enters Civil Disorder. In this case, at my discretion, I will not seek a replacement for Tim; Germany will remain in CD for the remainder of the game.
We also this round witness the first elimination. Austria has finally run out of support, and so we must bid adieu to Jason. Jason, you are welcome to send out an end-of-game message to the group.
Both proposals fail. We will continue to have one main major season per week.
Austria:
A Bohemia - Munich (*Dislodged*)
A Venice - Tyrolia (*Dislodged*)
England:
F Irish Sea - Liverpool
France:
F Belgium Supports A Holland
A Burgundy Supports A Bohemia - Munich
F English Channel Convoys A London - Picardy
A Liverpool - Edinburgh
A London - Picardy
A Marseilles Supports A Spain
F Mid-Atlantic Ocean Hold
A Spain Hold
F Yorkshire Supports A Liverpool - Edinburgh
Germany:
A Holland, no move received
Italy:
F Gulf of Lyon - Western Mediterranean
A Kiel Supports A Munich
A Rome - Venice
A Trieste Supports A Rome - Venice
A Vienna Supports A Galicia - Bohemia
F Western Mediterranean - North Africa
Russia:
A Armenia - Ankara
F Black Sea Supports A Armenia - Ankara
A Bulgaria - Constantinople (*Fails*)
F Clyde Supports F Irish Sea - Liverpool
F Edinburgh Supports F Norway - North Sea (*Dislodged*)
A Galicia - Bohemia
F Helgoland Bight Supports F Norway - North Sea
A Munich Supports A Galicia - Bohemia
F Norway - North Sea
A Serbia - Albania
A Tyrolia Supports A Munich (*Cut*)
Turkey:
F Ankara Supports A Constantinople (*Disbanded*)
A Constantinople, no move received
F Smyrna Supports A Constantinople
We have three retreats. However, two of these are Austrian, and Austria will have to disband those units during adjustments. The other retreat has only one option, so I'm putting in these three orders:
Austria:
disband A Bohemia
disband A Venice
Russia:
F Edinburgh - Norwegian Sea
Dirk, let me know if you'd rather disband by 05:00GMT on Monday, March 21, 2011.
Assuming the Russian retreat stands, we will have the following adjustments:
France:
Remove
Italy:
Build
Build
Russia:
Build
Build
These are due by 05:00GMT on Tuesday, March 22, 2011. Spring 1907 is due on 05:00GMT on Sunday, March 27, 2011.
Cheers,
Matthew[Reply] |
| Forwarding e-mails - fencertim (Mar 20, 2011, 10:31 am) |
I personally dislike the tactic. I have ben forwarded several e-mails through various games and on different diplomacy sites. Godzilla is corret, i am very less likely to discuss sensitive information with a person who forwards letters as it stands to reason that my letters are being forwarded as well. In an effort to put at ease the person i am in disscussions with i inform them up from that 'any and all information being discussed here will be held in the highest confidience and your diligience to do the same is appriciated.' This sometimes discourages someone from using this tactic.
As for the effectiveness, with me it has very little positive influence for the forwarder(?). It is too easy to forward a letter and change key words or province names...to fit the desired or intended outcome.[Reply] |
| Forwarding e-mails (Community) DancingQueen Mar 22, 03:32 pm |
As a long time F2F player, I have never understood the problem that the email community has with forwarding email. I have always taken it just as I would someone telling me what another player is saying. The tangible artifact of the email is so easily edited that it is almost valueless.
Which, IMO, makes it a particularly poor tactic when used against good players, who will recognize it for what it is -- an attempt to gain influence that isn't based on the merit of the speaker, but on the (supposed) bad behavior of someone else. |
| Forwarding e-mails (Community) Godzilla Mar 23, 06:17 am |
| It is certainly true that emails can be heavily edited before forwarding. I've been in the Diplomacy community long enough that I used to play by mail (gasp!), and it is perhaps from that forum that my aversion to mail-passing stems. Because in that format, of course, a letter passed on, in one's own handwriting, was extremely damning. |
| Forwarding e-mails (Community) pedros Mar 23, 06:33 am |
| My query wasn't really about whether it's good or bad play - like most tactics, it seems to me to be bext used sparingly - but the impression I was given was that it was close to illegal on the site. |
| Forwarding e-mails (Community) Godzilla Mar 23, 09:15 am |
pedro, you asked about the strong feelings associated with message-passing, and you got the answer, "It varies". Some players hate it, and some are indifferent to the tactic.
As for it being "close to illegal", that is somewhat like being "kind of pregnant": it's a case of either/or. There are very few forbiddens in Diplomacy -- deception of the GM being pretty much universal -- and in all my games I've never come across one in which message-passing was outlawed. Players can react to the message-forwarding as they choose, but there is no legal recourse within the game for such action. |
| Forwarding e-mails (Community) Blueraider0 Mar 23, 11:03 am |
I think comparing "almost illegal" to "almost pregnant" is a little silly. Nevertheless, some players consider it near heresy. I do it rarely, but I'll do it in particularly dire circumstances. I've even been known to falsify e-mails from "others" to make my point. Anything for the game, you know.
Some players oppose the tactic so much they don't care what the e-mail says, they will immediately go after you for being so disreputable. I had one player call me "insulting to the hobby," which seemed a bit harsh. So there are risks, but that's always true. The tactic, however, is not (and really cannot be) forbidden.
I'll add if people forward me an e-mail from someone else, I generally disapprove. Not because I'm a hypocrite, but because it isn't for something ridiculous enough. It is, for me, a last ditch effort. Forwarding e-mails to prove a 1901 FE alliance seems a little unnecessary, and while I won't insult the player or throw my forces haphazarly against them for revenge, I will doubt their cunning and probably consider them easy meat for the rest of the game. |
| Forwarding e-mails (Community) Godzilla Mar 23, 12:23 pm |
| Silly comparison? Not really. Now the expression "kind of pregnant" is silly, but I didn't make it up. However, nothing wrong with the analogy. One cannot be "kind of pregnant" -- one is or one isn't. In Diplomacy, something cannot be "almost illegal" -- either you can do it without breaking rules, or you cannot do it without breaking rules. For all the strong feelings against message-passing, have never seen a game in which it was illegal. |
| Forwarding e-mails (Community) rodtheworm Mar 24, 05:22 pm |
I see what you mean here. I've done it in the past, and in my early games I thought I was being clever by doctoring or even faking entire emails from other players - this was on some of the USAK/other name stlye judges where you were unlikely to play the same people again and thus gain a reputation.
I stopped forwarding messages when I realised that if I forwarded something to someone, they would more than likely assume I was doing the same with their mails. I think that was in my first game on this site. Since then I've been clean. Clearly you are going to pass on information occasionally, but being trustworthy with information is a much better reputation to have than the opposite. |
| Forwarding e-mails (Community) FlapJack Mar 26, 02:42 am |
My take on forward emails is this: I don't do it but as far as I am concerned when it comes to diplomacy between players all is fair in love and war. I try not deal with players that letter pass but I don't think you can write anyone out of the hobby over it.
The only thing I consider cheating is having to do more with the GM or the results rather than among the players.l |
| Forwarding e-mails (Community) FuzzyLogic Mar 23, 12:13 pm |
We have no community rule on this, not even a "best practices" sort of thing... So as far as any dc game goes, it's perfectly legal.
However, GMs can write their own house rules on the matter. I do know of one GM that does so and prohibits the forwarding of mail.
Like you say here tho, (and like most tactics) it is best used when it's not expected. So building a reputation for such is terrible... but if you have a situation where you can do something creative w a forwarded, quoted, or doctored mail, and you think it will be received well or accomplish your goal, then by all means... |
| Forwarding e-mails - Godzilla (Mar 20, 2011, 8:34 am) |
There is a wide range of responses to this tactic, and you are correct that some players deplore this tactic -- myself included.
My reasons are thus: like PBM Diplomacy before it, online Diplomacy is an adaptation of ftf Diplomacy. The board game was designed to be played in person. As such, all negotiations are verbal. There is no opportunity to forward a message. Someone can TELL you that Austria is scheming like mad against you, but you have nothing more than their say-so. Ignoring the possibility of faked messages, being able to actually forward another player's email changes the whole dynamic of negotiating, and not for the better, IMO. Some people regard forwarding emails to be the tactic of a weaker player.
Forwarding emails is not without its risks. Some players get extremely upset with this tactic, and will immediately turn against any player caught forwarding their mail. A player caught forwarding email also risks becoming known for this tactic, which will make it far less likely for other players to discuss sensitive topics with them, a real liability in Diplomacy. If you play consistently with the same group of players, it could become fatal to acquire the reputation as someone who will forward emails.
To be fair there are players who do not have a problem with the ethics of forwarding email, although I believe them to be in the minority. Perhaps others can weigh in on this as well.[Reply] |
| Forwarding e-mails (Community) fencertim Mar 20, 10:31 am |
I personally dislike the tactic. I have ben forwarded several e-mails through various games and on different diplomacy sites. Godzilla is corret, i am very less likely to discuss sensitive information with a person who forwards letters as it stands to reason that my letters are being forwarded as well. In an effort to put at ease the person i am in disscussions with i inform them up from that 'any and all information being discussed here will be held in the highest confidience and your diligience to do the same is appriciated.' This sometimes discourages someone from using this tactic.
As for the effectiveness, with me it has very little positive influence for the forwarder(?). It is too easy to forward a letter and change key words or province names...to fit the desired or intended outcome. |
| Forwarding e-mails (Community) DancingQueen Mar 22, 03:32 pm |
As a long time F2F player, I have never understood the problem that the email community has with forwarding email. I have always taken it just as I would someone telling me what another player is saying. The tangible artifact of the email is so easily edited that it is almost valueless.
Which, IMO, makes it a particularly poor tactic when used against good players, who will recognize it for what it is -- an attempt to gain influence that isn't based on the merit of the speaker, but on the (supposed) bad behavior of someone else. |
| Forwarding e-mails (Community) Godzilla Mar 23, 06:17 am |
| It is certainly true that emails can be heavily edited before forwarding. I've been in the Diplomacy community long enough that I used to play by mail (gasp!), and it is perhaps from that forum that my aversion to mail-passing stems. Because in that format, of course, a letter passed on, in one's own handwriting, was extremely damning. |
| Forwarding e-mails (Community) pedros Mar 23, 06:33 am |
| My query wasn't really about whether it's good or bad play - like most tactics, it seems to me to be bext used sparingly - but the impression I was given was that it was close to illegal on the site. |
| Forwarding e-mails (Community) Godzilla Mar 23, 09:15 am |
pedro, you asked about the strong feelings associated with message-passing, and you got the answer, "It varies". Some players hate it, and some are indifferent to the tactic.
As for it being "close to illegal", that is somewhat like being "kind of pregnant": it's a case of either/or. There are very few forbiddens in Diplomacy -- deception of the GM being pretty much universal -- and in all my games I've never come across one in which message-passing was outlawed. Players can react to the message-forwarding as they choose, but there is no legal recourse within the game for such action. |
| Forwarding e-mails (Community) Blueraider0 Mar 23, 11:03 am |
I think comparing "almost illegal" to "almost pregnant" is a little silly. Nevertheless, some players consider it near heresy. I do it rarely, but I'll do it in particularly dire circumstances. I've even been known to falsify e-mails from "others" to make my point. Anything for the game, you know.
Some players oppose the tactic so much they don't care what the e-mail says, they will immediately go after you for being so disreputable. I had one player call me "insulting to the hobby," which seemed a bit harsh. So there are risks, but that's always true. The tactic, however, is not (and really cannot be) forbidden.
I'll add if people forward me an e-mail from someone else, I generally disapprove. Not because I'm a hypocrite, but because it isn't for something ridiculous enough. It is, for me, a last ditch effort. Forwarding e-mails to prove a 1901 FE alliance seems a little unnecessary, and while I won't insult the player or throw my forces haphazarly against them for revenge, I will doubt their cunning and probably consider them easy meat for the rest of the game. |
| Forwarding e-mails (Community) Godzilla Mar 23, 12:23 pm |
| Silly comparison? Not really. Now the expression "kind of pregnant" is silly, but I didn't make it up. However, nothing wrong with the analogy. One cannot be "kind of pregnant" -- one is or one isn't. In Diplomacy, something cannot be "almost illegal" -- either you can do it without breaking rules, or you cannot do it without breaking rules. For all the strong feelings against message-passing, have never seen a game in which it was illegal. |
| Forwarding e-mails (Community) rodtheworm Mar 24, 05:22 pm |
I see what you mean here. I've done it in the past, and in my early games I thought I was being clever by doctoring or even faking entire emails from other players - this was on some of the USAK/other name stlye judges where you were unlikely to play the same people again and thus gain a reputation.
I stopped forwarding messages when I realised that if I forwarded something to someone, they would more than likely assume I was doing the same with their mails. I think that was in my first game on this site. Since then I've been clean. Clearly you are going to pass on information occasionally, but being trustworthy with information is a much better reputation to have than the opposite. |
| Forwarding e-mails (Community) FlapJack Mar 26, 02:42 am |
My take on forward emails is this: I don't do it but as far as I am concerned when it comes to diplomacy between players all is fair in love and war. I try not deal with players that letter pass but I don't think you can write anyone out of the hobby over it.
The only thing I consider cheating is having to do more with the GM or the results rather than among the players.l |
| Forwarding e-mails (Community) FuzzyLogic Mar 23, 12:13 pm |
We have no community rule on this, not even a "best practices" sort of thing... So as far as any dc game goes, it's perfectly legal.
However, GMs can write their own house rules on the matter. I do know of one GM that does so and prohibits the forwarding of mail.
Like you say here tho, (and like most tactics) it is best used when it's not expected. So building a reputation for such is terrible... but if you have a situation where you can do something creative w a forwarded, quoted, or doctored mail, and you think it will be received well or accomplish your goal, then by all means... |
