| DC309 Autumn 1904 results (official) - blueinva (May 25, 2010, 10:56 pm) |
>Actually, it's not that bad.
I know Andy (white wolf) and his wife both play.
Rachael plays, Andy, well, I'll let this game
speak for itself... *grin*
Blue (whose wife is
also a better Dip player than he is)
[Reply] |
| Canal in Germany? - Kenshi777 (May 25, 2010, 10:08 pm) |
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kiel_Canal
This entry in Wikipedia actually mentions Diplomacy!  I never knew
that until just now.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eider_River
Prior to the Kiel Canal, the Eider River allowed at least partial
access for shallow draft vessels to cross the narrowest portion of the
Jutland peninsula.
B.
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Total nerd question: the Standard Dip map has a waterway thru northern
Germany that enable the German player to order from Hel - Kie - Bal (or
vice-versa). There is no such waterway in real-life Germany. Did it used to
be? Or is it a design conceit to add balance to the game? Anybody familiar
with the history of this?
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| dc224 Fall 19 Results - More Time, More Chapters,... - garry.bledsoe (May 25, 2010, 9:47 pm) |
BUT, the Ogres Do Lose Two Centers as Do the Undead
The Trolls, Rogues and Faeries Advance
The Ogres Ring the Southern Continent Coastal Spaces With Defense
The Pirates Seem Content to Parlay and Shore Up the Homeland Security
A New DIAS Is Proposed for Spring (as well as a DIAS + ELVES!)
Attention All Warring Races (and you Peaceful Ones Too!),
War has continued through 38 grueling chapters. Along the way we have lost many fun (and some annoying) races. Who can ever forget the Leprechauns and their antics? Who can forget the valiant Knights in their hopeless quest to defend the northern reaches? Who can forget the Nomads with their...oh...wait, they never played.
Anyway - another Fall and more action as war continues. We missed out on the pleasure of any EGP's for the Fall {sigh} but never fear! we have a DIAS for the Spring and a DIAS plus Elves. For those who wish to humor, vote YES to the Elfen DIAS. Only one of you has to vote no and a lot of yes votes would sure put the author of this epic comic tragic classic in a good frame of mind.
But we jump too far ahead my readers.
First, we had one retreat: A Skullcap can only retreat to Istar or OTB. I auto-retreated it to Istar. IF Suzanne wishes it can go OTB and build an extra unit in the Winter.
That said, we move to Winter adjustments:
Faeries: Build 1
Ogres: Remove 1
Pirates: Build 1
Rogues: Build 2
Trolls: Build 2
Undead: Build 1 (unless A Sku retreats OTB)
Winter adjustments are due Thursday May 27th at 6pm CST. We will have Spring20 on Tuesday June 1 at 6pm CST. EGP votes are due THEN.
Remember, a vote for Elves is a vote for exiled Freedom, Hope and BiPartisanship (between exiled Elves and sacked llamas).
Please write with any concerns.
Elven Leader, Llama Lackey,
Garry
Faeries:
A Llyr Hold
F Hundred Acre Wood Supports A Elephant Graveyard
A Ivory Tower Supports F Myth Drannor
F Myth Drannor Supports F Great Glacier
F Great Glacier Supports F RAZORS EDGE (*Cut*)
F Groves of Academe Supports A Elephant Graveyard
A Elephant Graveyard Supports F Hundred Acre Wood
A Drynwyn - Starkadh
A Eridu Supports A Drynwyn - Starkadh
A Fionavar - Dragons Teeth Mtns (*Fails*)
A Dragons Teeth Mtns - Knurremurre (*Bounce*)
F CHURNING REACH Supports F Great Glacier
F RUGGED COAST - RIFT CANYON (*Bounce*)
F HORNED BAY Supports A Llyr
F RAZORS EDGE Supports F Great Glacier (*Cut*)
Ogres:
A Mount Nimro, no move received
A Carpantha Supports A Khaz Modan
A Undermountain Supports A Yggdrasil
A Mordor Supports A Rohan
A Rohan Supports A Mordor
A Lindon Supports A Rohan
F Knockshegowna Supports F Enchanted Isles - BIKINI BOTTOM
A Fjord Hold
A Baldurs Gate Supports A Yuirwood
F Enchanted Isles - BIKINI BOTTOM
A Zhentil Keep Supports F Pwyll - Great Glacier
A Merrow Hold
A Fitzgibbon Hold
A Golgafrincham Supports A Lindon
F Kara-Tur Supports A Baldurs Gate
A Yuirwood Supports A Mordor
A Dragon Coast Supports F Pwyll - Great Glacier
A Silvanesti - Adder
A Thra - Pwyll (*Bounce*)
F Pwyll - Great Glacier (*Fails*)
A Khaz Modan Supports A Diamond Mines - Knurremurre
A Hidden Grotto Supports A Khaz Modan
A Diamond Mines - Knurremurre (*Bounce*)
A Yggdrasil Supports A Hidden Grotto
A Hollow Earth Supports A Mount Nimro
F BIKINI BOTTOM - Allerleirauh
F THE MAW Supports F Enchanted Isles - BIKINI BOTTOM (*Cut*)
F THUNDERHEAD Supports F THE MAW
F RIVER OF THE DAWN - RAZORS EDGE (*Fails*)
F ROARING RAPIDS Convoys A Silvanesti - Adder
F NORTH RAINBOW LAKE Supports F Terabithia
F SOUTH RAINBOW LAKE - Myrtle
Pirates:
F Fantastica - RIFT CANYON (*Bounce*)
F Riku Supports F Groves of Academe - GRIEF REEF (*Void*)
F Travers Town - RESTLESS WATERS
A Duloc - Fantastica (*Fails*)
A Rivendell - Pans Labyrinth
F The High Way Supports F GULF OF LUHN - Rivendell
A Critter Country - Slightly Gulch
F RESTLESS WATERS - GULF OF LUHN
F GULF OF LUHN - Rivendell
Rogues:
A GuTanoth Hold
A Tumnus Hold
F Grimpen Ward - MIST MARSH
A To-Gai-Ru Hold
A Everglot - Uhl Belk
F Cathal Hold
A Cave of Ordeals Hold
F Darken Wood(sc) Hold
A Palmaris Hold
F Timberlands Supports F SAVAGE SEA - Skullcap
F Istar - Everglot
A River Saeren Supports A Fionavar - Dragons Teeth Mtns
A Tymwyvenne Supports A Dragons Teeth Mtns - Knurremurre
F TROG BOG - THON THALAS
F GRIEF REEF - MERMAIDS LAGOON
F WEST SEA OF SHADOWS - Skellington (*Fails*)
F EAST SEA OF SHADOWS Supports F Istar - Everglot
F SAVAGE SEA - Skullcap
F ALL SAINTS BAY - SAVAGE SEA (*Fails*)
F ZEBOIMS DEEP - Pwyll (*Bounce*)
F WEST MIRIANIC OCEAN - ALL SAINTS BAY (*Fails*)
Trolls:
F Khemri Supports A Newa River
A Newa River Hold
A Sorrows End Supports A Cave of Ordeals
F Ansalon Supports F RIVER STYX - THE MAW
F Never Never Land - WAY THE HECK (*Fails*)
A Gwynir Hold
A Sleepy Hollow Supports A Gwynir
A Abby Normal Supports A Sorrows End
A Sables Swamp Hold
F HIGH SEAS Supports F Never Never Land - WAY THE HECK (*Fails*)
F WAY THE HECK - BIKINI BOTTOM (*Fails*)
F RIVER STYX - THE MAW (*Fails*)
F BABEL BEACH - Enchanted Isles
F SEA OF FALLEN STARS Supports F BABEL BEACH - Enchanted Isles
Undead:
A Skullcap - Everglot (*Dislodged*)
A Skellington Supports A Skullcap - Everglot (*Cut*)
A The Old Gristmill Supports F Terabithia
F Terabithia Supports F Uhl Belk - SAVAGE SEA
F Uhl Belk - SAVAGE SEA
The New Busy think 9 to 5 is a cute idea. Combine multiple calendars with Hotmail. Get busy.[Reply] |
| DC290 fall 1905 adjudication - bobbarkerfan1 (May 25, 2010, 9:36 pm) |
Hey everyone,
Well, I received one set of adjustments. I need you guys to get those into me, by tomorrow night preferably.
There was a draw proposal submitted with fall orders that I was waiting for the spring deadline to announce, send me adjustments and I shall reveal the proposal.
Thank you,
Joey
From: Joey Pedicini <bobbarkerfan1ped(at)yahoo.com>
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Sent: Sat, May 22, 2010 3:10:18 PM
Subject: DC290 fall 1905 adjudication
Hey everyone,
Last busy weekend of the year. School lets out this next week, woo! Anyway, here is the adjudication for last night's deadline Fall1905.
Austria: A Bohemia Supports A SilesiaA Piedmont Supports A MarseillesA Rome - Venice (*Bounce*)A Silesia Supports A Galicia - WarsawA Tyrolia - Venice (*Bounce*)F Tyrrhenian Sea - Gulf of Lyon
England: A Belgium - NorwayA Gascony Supports A Burgundy - Marseilles (*Void*)F Irish Sea Supports F Mid-Atlantic Ocean (*Void*)F Mid-Atlantic Ocean - Spain(nc) (*Dislodged*)F North Atlantic Ocean Supports F Mid-Atlantic Ocean
(*Void*)F North Sea Convoys A Belgium - Norway
France: A Marseilles Supports F Spain(sc)F Portugal Supports F Spain(sc)F Spain(sc) Supports F North Africa - Mid-Atlantic Ocean
Germany: A Berlin - PrussiaA Burgundy Supports A MunichA Kiel Supports A MunichA Munich HoldF Prussia - Baltic SeaA Ruhr - Belgium
Italy: F North Africa - Mid-Atlantic OceanA Tuscany, no move received
Russia: A Livonia, no move receivedA Ukraine, no move received (*Disbanded*)
Turkey: A Apulia - NaplesF Black Sea - ConstantinopleA Bulgaria - RumaniaA Galicia - WarsawA Moscow Supports A Sevastopol - UkraineA Rumania -
GaliciaA Sevastopol - UkraineF Tunis - North AfricaF Western Mediterranean Supports F Tunis - North Africa
DEADLINE:The winter 1905 deadline(including autumn retreat) will be set for Wednesday, May 26th, 9:00pm EST if you get retreat in early I'll do that first. Thanks!
PLAYERS:Ctry : Italy
Name : Alex Maslow
Email : Blueraider0(at)gmail.comCtry : England
Name : Kyle Rudge
Email : krudge(at)goldenwestradio.com
Ctry : RussiaName : Justin Card
Email : justin(at)darkenedpath.com
Ctry : France
Name : Ross Yaggy
Email : ross826(at)gmail.com
Ctry : Austria
Name : Joe Rizzo
Email : kangaroohp(at)aol.com
Ctry : Germany
Name : Matthew
Stevenson
Email : rocketship.rocketship(at)gmail.com
Ctry : Turkey
Name : Michael Walters
Email : michael.alan.walters(at)gmail.com
Have a great weekend! Joey[Reply] |
| DC301 - TTP - Fall 1905: End of Game - mistro (May 25, 2010, 8:52 pm) |
To all, I usually don't make closing comments but I'm
compelled to in this one (after reading this you may see why I don't make
closing comments).
To Doug, you have my compliments on a good job. I thought
you ran a good game. Pro's were your commentary and the fix times for turns,.Cons,
that map just is impossible to read (and I'm not the only one, poor Italy went at
least 2 years without a build he was entitled to). I'm not sure I'd play the variant
again and I certainly would never be Russia in it. He gives up his 4 SC
advantage.
To Austria,
you played a good game but you were aided by the ineptitude of your closest
players. I'd relish a rematch someday. Your prose in the beginning was quite
captivating but you waffled too long. If it hadn't been for your vassal Italy I'd have taken you and I really thought that
we would end with a Austria France draw ( with Germany and one of your vassals)..
To Italy
and Turkey,
I'd love to hear how your game plan was going to give you a win? What exactly
was the point of being Austria's
pawns forever? Any good strategy says that the minor player has to turn on
their protector sometime! I am really curious; did Austria have dirty pictures of you
to blackmail you?
England
my biggest mistake was not trusting Germany
early in the game and invading England
proper via the German offered convoy. If I had done that we could have eliminated you
at least on the western part of the board and I probably would have won or the
draw would not have been so inclusive, because the only way that Germany's
and my stalemate line was broken was because we didn't eliminate you.. However
once we allied, for the record, Dirk and I were very agreeable to have our
three countries in a draw against Austria. However when you turned
unreliable while I didn't get quite as upset as Dirk over our exchanges, I will
remember that you are an unreliable ally, not the type I care to play with
again unless it's hostilities from the start and trust me it will be.
German you played a good game, especially considering your opening
moves that left you no SC's within a defensive buffer. Its tough being Germany (and Austria); the edge countries are
easier, but still you did a great job and were a terrific ally. I never thought
to stab you even with the proffered opportunities by other players. I hope we
stay in touch in the "real world" and play again. BTW at some point I'd like to
send my daughter's resume to you for comment and if you ever expand to nyc, let
me know.
In conclusion, you know this game is a lot like woman (at
least until I got married). You are in a relationship and its fun at first and
then it becomes a drag and then you look for a way out. You swear off them for
a while and then memories fade and you get drawn back in. I'm out of here for a
while, but I'm sure I'll be back sometime after the memories fade.
Rgds, Michael
On Tue, May 25, 2010 at 6:42 PM, Marc Prud'homme <michaelfaraday(at)live.com> wrote:
Good Evening!
Ordinarily I'm quite an advocate for EOGs, but my memory is honestly quite flagging. So, yes I'll do an EOG, but it will be rather short and lacking a thorough chronological journal.
Thank you Douglas for hosting this variant -- I am a little sad that my "custom" empire happened to be Austria-shuffle-south, but it was still entertaining and being able to call myself "Yugoslavia", for all the good it pragmatically did, served to keep my attention quite well.  I one day hope to run a game as smooth[ly] as yours.
I was flattered with how many players wanted to work with me, and genuinely seemed to follow through on the goal -- the exception naturally being post-Turkey Russia, but I DID open into Rumania, and things went pretty south after that... Honestly, I was planning on wiping Turkey out as soon as possible with Russian help -- his opening to Greece was, while quite a natural opening, rather threatening to my Balkan Empire. Russia, forgive my betrayal -- you held out til' the end, and forgive any unnecessary treachery on my part -- for me, half the fun is the con, not the end.
Now, I have been a small nation before a large one in past games and I understand, though many players say it "poor showmanship" or whatever, that the first and most satisfying reaction is to act however you damn well please, survival or not, just to prove that you DO have an effect on the game. To me, this is a fundamental concept necessary for "soft" conquering -- as long as a player feels that they have choices and input, and most importantly that you've GIVEN them this, they will likely follow you to the grave or until you REVOKE such freedom. Unfortunately for me, it was this second point that I did not tread upon quite hard enough and towards the end my Turkish "vassal" became a liability that I honestly could do nothing about.
I trusted him explicitly [barring that one scare], so it never came of much, although I do believe some of my later orders would've given him cause for concern -- perhaps rightly so, I can't honestly recall what my strategy was there. For what it's worth, thanks for sticking by me even though I could've been an easy stab at several points.
Italy, though I had initially quite determined that I would eliminate you with French assistance, a curious movement by Russia made my natural paranoia look for allies -- I kept telling France "one more season!", waving those perfect chances to bounce you for home centres, and eventually we fell into a perfect demilitarized peace -- I daresay we never had any misunderstanding [except maybe my arrogantly declared ship, I don't know]. Towards the end France and Germany had convinced me that an alliance with them was useful, and sadly that meant to had to go -- luckily, I never had to realize your end. Thanks for sticking with me for better or worse, and in essence serving as my navy.
France, I honestly began with the idea of an AF alliance taking the board. I found myself the weakest player at the start, and kept equivocating because I didn't want unnecessary risks -- and I'm sure you gave up on my wishy-washy self after a while. All the same, I quite enjoyed our communications -- I recall in our earlier exchanges I took liberties and expressed my ideas in prose too flowery for what was to be exterminating our neighbour. Fun, all the same -- thanks.
Germany, it was [ironically] your equivocation as you said that led to your stunted growth. I asked for assistance and you would always just sit it out, and eventually I determined [while being very wishy-washy myself] that I'd run my way through the alps.
England, we didn't interact much until the end, although we were entirely misaligned for my hypothetical solo, so I was a little loathe to trust you -- all the same, you helped me break the stalemate and, in theory, we could have ground our way through Franco-Germany. But, by that time the game had lost it's flare, and I thought I'd give stabbing you a half-hearted go. Sorry, for what it's worth.
I am first an foremost a player for the melodramatic -- I'm sure more than half of you realize that. Second, I play for the fun of conning, alliances, and, in general, communications: This ties in with the first. Thirdly, I play to win. And in this game, though I thought for a moment I was well on my way to a solo, I had lost the interesting exchanges, and my lazy attempts at stabbing didn't garner anything new. In my books, I had "won" my conditions when I had literally every [surviving] player on the board suggesting an alliance with me, the largest nation. Granted, a few of these offers were only to break a stalemate, but all the same I had a roaring good time for quite a while there. Thank you everyone for an entertaining game!
Any questions or comments, and I'll try my best to answer.
Hope to see you all on the battlefield again some time!-K.T.Yugoslavia
From: lindav123(at)hotmail.com
To: dirk(at)knemeyer.com; douglasefresh(at)googlemail.com
CC: livinglifeforothers(at)gmail.com; mike_hyman(at)hotmail.com; michaelfaraday(at)live.com; mistro914(at)gmail.com; dc301(at)diplomaticcorp.com; rob.a.goodwin(at)googlemail.com
Subject: RE: DC301 - TTP - Fall 1905: End of Game
Date: Tue, 25 May 2010 18:23:48 +0100
> P.S. - David, at least from my side, all of our antipathy was in good
> fun, frustrated though I really was!!!
ha ha...well, from my side....MOST of it was in good fun
seriously your "own lack of strategic planning" drove me absolutely insane this game....when someones diplomacy is sending you one message but their moves on the board something TOTALLY OPPOSITE, it doesnt leave you many options!!!
But no worries, at least we somehow managed to salvage a draw out of it. Despite all the bad blood Id still look forward to another game with both you and Michael. It was never personal for me.
Congrats to Austria though....clearly head and shoulders deserved the board top this game.
Cheers Doug, nice variant, I'd certainly play it again.
> CC: lindav123(at)hotmail.com; livinglifeforothers(at)gmail.com; mike_hyman(at)hotmail.com; michaelfaraday(at)live.com; mistro914(at)gmail.com; dc301(at)diplomaticcorp.com; rob.a.goodwin(at)googlemail.com
> From: dirk(at)knemeyer.com
> To: douglasefresh(at)googlemail.com
> Subject: Re: DC301 - TTP - Fall 1905: End of Game[Reply] |
| Canal in Germany? - charlesf (May 25, 2010, 8:36 pm) |
Canal in Germany? [post:16460]
BODY {
FONT-SIZE: 12px; FONT-FAMILY: verdana, sans-serif
}
Used to be called the Kaiser-Wilhelm-Kanal. Its
construction was strategically important as it allowed the easy deployment of
the German High Seas Fleet.
Nowadays known as the Nordseekanal.
Charles[Reply] |
| Canal in Germany? - sunchung (May 25, 2010, 8:12 pm) |
| Wow - Wikipedia knows more than Google? Not a problem. Happy to help where I can. [Reply] |
| Canal in Germany? (Variants) charlesf May 25, 08:36 pm |
Canal in Germany? [post:16460]
BODY {
FONT-SIZE: 12px; FONT-FAMILY: verdana, sans-serif
}
Used to be called the Kaiser-Wilhelm-Kanal. Its
construction was strategically important as it allowed the easy deployment of
the German High Seas Fleet.
Nowadays known as the Nordseekanal.
Charles |
| Canal in Germany? - dknemeyer (May 25, 2010, 8:10 pm) |
Amazing! I was looking at Google Maps and zooming way in - couldn't see it...
Thanks Sun.[Reply] |
| Canal in Germany? (Variants) sunchung May 25, 08:12 pm |
| Wow - Wikipedia knows more than Google? Not a problem. Happy to help where I can. |
| Canal in Germany? (Variants) charlesf May 25, 08:36 pm |
Canal in Germany? [post:16460]
BODY {
FONT-SIZE: 12px; FONT-FAMILY: verdana, sans-serif
}
Used to be called the Kaiser-Wilhelm-Kanal. Its
construction was strategically important as it allowed the easy deployment of
the German High Seas Fleet.
Nowadays known as the Nordseekanal.
Charles |
| Canal in Germany? - sunchung (May 25, 2010, 8:08 pm) |
There actually is a canal in Germany:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kiel_Canal[Reply] |
| Canal in Germany? (Variants) dknemeyer May 25, 08:10 pm |
Amazing! I was looking at Google Maps and zooming way in - couldn't see it...
Thanks Sun. |
| Canal in Germany? (Variants) sunchung May 25, 08:12 pm |
| Wow - Wikipedia knows more than Google? Not a problem. Happy to help where I can. |
| Canal in Germany? (Variants) charlesf May 25, 08:36 pm |
Canal in Germany? [post:16460]
BODY {
FONT-SIZE: 12px; FONT-FAMILY: verdana, sans-serif
}
Used to be called the Kaiser-Wilhelm-Kanal. Its
construction was strategically important as it allowed the easy deployment of
the German High Seas Fleet.
Nowadays known as the Nordseekanal.
Charles |
| dc307 ~ Orient Express - sgttodd (May 25, 2010, 7:58 pm) |
The deadline for Fall 1904 orders is: June 1st (at) 2359 UTC.
The following units were dislodged:
Siberian F Honshu retreats to East China Sea.
Unit locations:
India: F Arabian Sea, F Bay of Bengal, F Burma, A Kunlun, A
Pakistan, A Shanghai, F Sri Lanka, F Yemen.
Indonesia: F Celebes Sea, A Chongqing, F Eastern Indian Ocean, F Hong
Kong, F Philippines, F South China Sea, F Seychelles, F Sumatra, F Thailand.
Japan: F Beijing, F Hokkaido, F Honshu, A Korea.
Persia: F Iran(nc), A Iraq, F Oman, F Persian Gulf, A Syria.
Russia: F Black Sea, A Balkans, F Caspian Sea, A Caucasus, F St.
Petersburg, A Turkey, A Uzbekistan.
Siberia: A East Siberia, F East China Sea, A Irkutsk, A Manchuria, A
Novosibirsk, F Sea of Okhotsk, F Vladivostok.
Movement results for Spring of 1904.
India: F Arabian Sea - Yemen.
India: F Bay of Bengal - Burma.
India: F Bombay - Bay of Bengal.
India: F Central Indian Ocean - Arabian Sea.
India: A Kunlun Hold.
India: A Pakistan - Iran (*Fails*).
India: F Sri Lanka Supports F Bombay - Bay of Bengal.
India: A Tibet - Shanghai.
Indonesia: F Borneo - South China Sea.
Indonesia: F Celebes Sea Hold.
Indonesia: F Java - Eastern Indian Ocean.
Indonesia: A Laos - Chongqing.
Indonesia: F Madagascar - Seychelles.
Indonesia: F Philippines Hold.
Indonesia: F Sumatra Supports F Java - Eastern Indian Ocean.
Indonesia: F Thailand Hold.
Indonesia: F Vietnam - Hong Kong.
Japan: F Beijing - Manchuria (*Fails*).
Japan: F Hokkaido Supports F Yellow Sea - Honshu.
Japan: A Korea Supports F Beijing - Manchuria.
Japan: F Yellow Sea - Honshu.
Persia: F Iran(nc), no move received.
Persia: A Iraq Supports A Syria - Turkey.
Persia: F Oman Supports F Persian Gulf.
Persia: F Persian Gulf Supports A Iran.
Persia: A Syria - Turkey (*Fails*).
Russia: A Balkans Supports A Turkey.
Russia: F Caspian Sea Convoys A Kazakhstan - Caucasus.
Russia: A Kazakhstan - Caucasus.
Russia: F Sevastopol(wc) - Black Sea.
Russia: F St. Petersburg Hold.
Russia: A Turkey Supports A Kazakhstan - Caucasus (*Cut*).
Russia: A Uzbekistan Supports A Pakistan - Iran.
Siberia: F Honshu Supports F Kamchatka - Sea of Okhotsk (*Dislodged*).
Siberia: A Irkutsk Supports A Manchuria.
Siberia: F Kamchatka - Sea of Okhotsk.
Siberia: A Manchuria Supports F Kamchatka - Sea of Okhotsk (*Fails*).
Siberia: A Novosibirsk Supports A Manchuria.
Siberia: A West Siberia - East Siberia.
Siberia: F Yakutsk - Vladivostok.
The deadline for Fall 1904 orders is: June 1st (at) 2359 UTC.
files: http://mainecav.org/diplomacy[Reply] |
| DC261 - French EOG - txurce (May 25, 2010, 7:57 pm) |
Ben,
As I told you elsewhere, I thought you played a solid game, and a very good one for a novice. Your initial plans made sense, and your decision to stick with A/I rather than join G/E was reasonable enough on the face of it. In effect you chose to stick with a neutral known entity over an unknown player offering you an alliance with your enemies. You would have been better served negotiating some active support from Italy in light of your choice - especially after Russia collapsed - but I wouldn't question it.
For the record, England and I didn't cede territory to Austria in favor of stopping you. The map and our numbers virtually dictated that we play defense in the east, and try what offensive moves we could in the west. I steadily tried to win you over to our side, but having you join in a fatally compromised position - which is what finally occurred - couldn't (and didn't) do us any good.
Again, this is where I think you made your only real mistake: not switching sides when your allies refused to propose a three-way draw. Given the map layout, a more experienced player would have seen the writing on the wall and jumped before being pushed.
Jorge
On Tue, May 25, 2010 at 4:51 PM, Ben Leapman <ben.leapman(at)ntlworld.com> wrote:
Guys,
Thanks very much for making my first game of online
Diplomacy so intriguing. As a novice I had expected to be eliminated quickly, so
I beat my own expectations by surviving 10 months.
From the outset I agreed a non-aggression pact with
Italy, which lasted right through to '09 when my weakness made an Italian attack
inevitable.
Also from the outset I struck a firm agreement with
Germany to strike immediately against England. It worked in '01, with a French
fleet in ENG after Spring 01 helping a German fleet into NOR by the end of Fall
01. We were all set. However, in Spring 02 the
original Germany stabbed me - taking Belgium, breaking a mutually-winning
alliance ... and immediately quitting the game.
I think any player would respond to such
provocation in normal circumstances by declaring all-out war on the player
who had stabbed them. But that player had left the game and I was faced
with a new Germany who, while talking peace, wasn't willing to renew our joint
fight against England. He asked for a three-way G/F/E pact, which would
have forced me to either stagnate or attack Italy, neither of which seemed
like appealing options.
This left me rather confused and I responded,
probably unwisely, by lying to the new Germany, stabbing him,
and getting the satisfaction of taking Belgium back for a while. I tried
what was very much a plan B of allying with Russia against
G/E.
It didn't work. Russia was wiped out, Germany
and England stayed friends, and I was forced to turn to my Italian ally for
support. A three way alliance of A/I/F was always going to make steady progress
against G/E, and I had hopes of a three-way draw, but G/E- perhaps
understandably, given how I had provoked them! - chose to cede supply centres to
Austria on their eastern flank while throwing their full weight against France
on their western flank. Inevitably this forced me to put all my forces on my
northern front, leaving myself wide open to the inevitable Italian invasion
through the Med.
This achieved Germany's short-term aim of forcing
me to swap sides, in the hope that a G/E/F defensive front could force a
five-way draw. But A/I had timed their strike against me well, and already had
enough strength between them to power ahead to victory - eventually graciously
conceding a two-way draw which left me among the three survivors. Well played
Benjamin and Jim.
----- Original Message -----
From:
Josh E.
To: dc261(at)diplomaticcorp.com ; Mark Duffield ; Benjamin
Hester ; Ben Leapman ; Jim
Rossiter ; Jorge Saralegui ; Eric
Shum ; David
Zilkha
Cc: Mike Sims ; Josh Engsberg
Sent: Friday, May 14, 2010 4:23 AM
Subject: DC261 - GAME OVER!
Well folks all the votes are in, and with a unanimous decision I
declare:
Austria & Italy will share in a 2-way
draw!
with
England, France, Germany have surviving their
onslaught.
Congratulations to James and Benjamin on a well executed
campaign!
Thank you all for a great game. It has been my pleasure to
listen in and watch as the game progressed, and I wouldn't hesitate for a
moment to have each and every one of you back in any of my future games.
- Josh[Reply] |
| (DC 324) A Stab in the Dark - Fall 1904 Results - Corrino (May 25, 2010, 7:35 pm) |
Stabbers,
Which wicked witch is the witch which is wickedest? Tough to say, tough to judge. They're both pretty nasty, eh? I'd hate to be locked up in a dark room with either of them myself. Oh, sorry. I guess you blokes in the middle are in just that position.
News of the turn:
. Turkey dislodges Russia from two Balkan SC. Uh-oh.
. Brest changes hands for the third time (that we know about).
. French army is rebuffed from Naples... from Naples?
. Germany saves the tulips from English hegemony, but what's going on everywhere else north of Switzerland?
I had a bad round last time for mistakes. I'm a little less stressed tonight, so I hope I did better, but please keep checking my work and
don't hesitate to ask me to confirm something if you suspect I goofed. Just be nice about it, okay?
There are 3 retreats due. Please submit ASAP. Once received, I'll distribute Autumn reports to all of you showing SC owned and adjustments required.
Cheers,
Chris
==============================================
England:
F English Channel Supports F Picardy - Brest
F Mid-Atlantic Ocean Supports * (*Cut*)
F North Sea - Holland (*Fails*)
F Picardy - Brest
France:
A Brest Hold (*Dislodged*)
F Portugal - Mid-Atlantic Ocean (*Fails*)
A Rome - Naples (*Fails*)
Germany:
F Holland Supports * (*Cut*)
Italy:
A Budapest Supports * (*Cut*)
F Naples Supports * (*Cut*)
A Trieste - Serbia (*Fails*)
Russia:
A Bulgaria - Rumania (*Dislodged*)
A Rumania - Budapest (*Dislodged*)
A Serbia Supports * (*Cut*)
Turkey:
F Black Sea Supports A
Sevastopol - Rumania
A Constantinople - Bulgaria
F Greece Supports A Constantinople - Bulgaria
A Sevastopol - Rumania
===================================================[Reply] |
| Canal in Germany? - dknemeyer (May 25, 2010, 7:31 pm) |
| Total nerd question: the Standard Dip map has a waterway thru northern Germany that enable the German player to order from Hel - Kie - Bal (or vice-versa). There is no such waterway in real-life Germany. Did it used to be? Or is it a design conceit to add balance to the game? Anybody familiar with the history of this? [Reply] |
| Canal in Germany? (Variants) sunchung May 25, 08:08 pm |
There actually is a canal in Germany:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kiel_Canal |
| Canal in Germany? (Variants) dknemeyer May 25, 08:10 pm |
Amazing! I was looking at Google Maps and zooming way in - couldn't see it...
Thanks Sun. |
| Canal in Germany? (Variants) sunchung May 25, 08:12 pm |
| Wow - Wikipedia knows more than Google? Not a problem. Happy to help where I can. |
| Canal in Germany? (Variants) charlesf May 25, 08:36 pm |
Canal in Germany? [post:16460]
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Used to be called the Kaiser-Wilhelm-Kanal. Its
construction was strategically important as it allowed the easy deployment of
the German High Seas Fleet.
Nowadays known as the Nordseekanal.
Charles |
| Canal in Germany? (Variants) Kenshi777 May 25, 10:08 pm |
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kiel_Canal
This entry in Wikipedia actually mentions Diplomacy! I never knew
that until just now.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eider_River
Prior to the Kiel Canal, the Eider River allowed at least partial
access for shallow draft vessels to cross the narrowest portion of the
Jutland peninsula.
B.
On 5/25/10, variants(at)diplomaticcorp.com wrote:
Dknemeyer posted in Variants. The message was...
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Total nerd question: the Standard Dip map has a waterway thru northern
Germany that enable the German player to order from Hel - Kie - Bal (or
vice-versa). There is no such waterway in real-life Germany. Did it used to
be? Or is it a design conceit to add balance to the game? Anybody familiar
with the history of this?
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| DC317; Summer 1909 Results - dipknight (May 25, 2010, 7:08 pm) |
GM's remarks:
No additional remarks required.
The Players:
Austria Eliminated Winter 1904
England Eliminated Winter 1905
France packrat scott troemel brn2dip(at)yahoo.com
Germany Douglas_E_Fresh Douglas Fresh douglasefresh(at)gmail.com
Italy evapollo88 Greg Olson olson.gregoryscott(at)gmail.com
Russia Nigs Nigel Phillips nephilli99(at)hotmail.com
Turkey Eliminated Winter 1906
The Orders:
Austria:
Eliminated Winter 1904
England:
Eliminated Winter 1905
France:
No Orders Required
Germany:
No Orders Required
Italy:
A trl - pie
Russia:
F nth - yor
Turkey:
Eliminated Winter 1906
Retreats:
See Above
Centers and Unit Positions:
Austria:
Eliminated Winter 1904
England:
Eliminated Winter 1905
France:
Centers (2) lvp, lon.
Units: F lvp, F lon
Build/Disband: 0
Germany:
Centers (7): bel, ber, den, edi, hol, kie, mun.
Units: A bel, A boh, F cly, A den, A hol, A kie, A mun
Build/Disbands: 0
Italy:
Centers (11) bre, bul, gre, mar, nap, par, por, rom, spa, tun, ven.
Units: F adr, F aeg, F eas, A gre, F nao, F nth, A pic, A pie, A ruh, A tri, A ven
Build/Disband: 0
Russia:
Centers (14) ank, bud, con, mos, nwy, rum, ser, sev, smy, stp, swe, tri, vie, war.
Units: A arm, F bla, A bud, F bul(sc), A con, F nwy, A rum, A ser, F smy, A stp, A swe, A trl, A vie, F yor
Build/Disband: 0
Turkey:
Eliminated Winter 1906
Deadline:
1909 Fall Orders: Thursday; May 27, 24:00 Hrs GMT.
Maps of the Orders and Results; and, the dpy file are attached for your use.[Reply] |
| DC261 - French EOG - leapman (May 25, 2010, 6:51 pm) |
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Guys,
Thanks very much for making my first game of online
Diplomacy so intriguing. As a novice I had expected to be eliminated quickly, so
I beat my own expectations by surviving 10 months.
From the outset I agreed a non-aggression pact with
Italy, which lasted right through to '09 when my weakness made an Italian attack
inevitable.
Also from the outset I struck a firm agreement with
Germany to strike immediately against England. It worked in '01, with a French
fleet in ENG after Spring 01 helping a German fleet into NOR by the end of Fall
01. We were all set. However, in Spring 02 the
original Germany stabbed me - taking Belgium, breaking a mutually-winning
alliance ... and immediately quitting the game.
I think any player would respond to such
provocation in normal circumstances by declaring all-out war on the player
who had stabbed them. But that player had left the game and I was faced
with a new Germany who, while talking peace, wasn't willing to renew our joint
fight against England. He asked for a three-way G/F/E pact, which would
have forced me to either stagnate or attack Italy, neither of which seemed
like appealing options.
This left me rather confused and I responded,
probably unwisely, by lying to the new Germany, stabbing him,
and getting the satisfaction of taking Belgium back for a while. I tried
what was very much a plan B of allying with Russia against
G/E.
It didn't work. Russia was wiped out, Germany
and England stayed friends, and I was forced to turn to my Italian ally for
support. A three way alliance of A/I/F was always going to make steady progress
against G/E, and I had hopes of a three-way draw, but G/E- perhaps
understandably, given how I had provoked them! - chose to cede supply centres to
Austria on their eastern flank while throwing their full weight against France
on their western flank. Inevitably this forced me to put all my forces on my
northern front, leaving myself wide open to the inevitable Italian invasion
through the Med.
This achieved Germany's short-term aim of forcing
me to swap sides, in the hope that a G/E/F defensive front could force a
five-way draw. But A/I had timed their strike against me well, and already had
enough strength between them to power ahead to victory - eventually graciously
conceding a two-way draw which left me among the three survivors. Well played
Benjamin and Jim.
----- Original Message -----
From:
Josh E.
To: dc261(at)diplomaticcorp.com ; Mark Duffield ; Benjamin
Hester ; Ben Leapman ; Jim
Rossiter ; Jorge Saralegui ; Eric
Shum ; David
Zilkha
Cc: Mike Sims ; Josh Engsberg
Sent: Friday, May 14, 2010 4:23 AM
Subject: DC261 - GAME OVER!
Well folks all the votes are in, and with a unanimous decision I
declare:
Austria & Italy will share in a 2-way
draw!
with
England, France, Germany have surviving their
onslaught.
Congratulations to James and Benjamin on a well executed
campaign!
Thank you all for a great game. It has been my pleasure to
listen in and watch as the game progressed, and I wouldn't hesitate for a
moment to have each and every one of you back in any of my future games.
- Josh[Reply] |
| DC261 - French EOG (dc261) txurce May 25, 07:57 pm |
Ben,
As I told you elsewhere, I thought you played a solid game, and a very good one for a novice. Your initial plans made sense, and your decision to stick with A/I rather than join G/E was reasonable enough on the face of it. In effect you chose to stick with a neutral known entity over an unknown player offering you an alliance with your enemies. You would have been better served negotiating some active support from Italy in light of your choice - especially after Russia collapsed - but I wouldn't question it.
For the record, England and I didn't cede territory to Austria in favor of stopping you. The map and our numbers virtually dictated that we play defense in the east, and try what offensive moves we could in the west. I steadily tried to win you over to our side, but having you join in a fatally compromised position - which is what finally occurred - couldn't (and didn't) do us any good.
Again, this is where I think you made your only real mistake: not switching sides when your allies refused to propose a three-way draw. Given the map layout, a more experienced player would have seen the writing on the wall and jumped before being pushed.
Jorge
On Tue, May 25, 2010 at 4:51 PM, Ben Leapman <ben.leapman(at)ntlworld.com> wrote:
Guys,
Thanks very much for making my first game of online
Diplomacy so intriguing. As a novice I had expected to be eliminated quickly, so
I beat my own expectations by surviving 10 months.
From the outset I agreed a non-aggression pact with
Italy, which lasted right through to '09 when my weakness made an Italian attack
inevitable.
Also from the outset I struck a firm agreement with
Germany to strike immediately against England. It worked in '01, with a French
fleet in ENG after Spring 01 helping a German fleet into NOR by the end of Fall
01. We were all set. However, in Spring 02 the
original Germany stabbed me - taking Belgium, breaking a mutually-winning
alliance ... and immediately quitting the game.
I think any player would respond to such
provocation in normal circumstances by declaring all-out war on the player
who had stabbed them. But that player had left the game and I was faced
with a new Germany who, while talking peace, wasn't willing to renew our joint
fight against England. He asked for a three-way G/F/E pact, which would
have forced me to either stagnate or attack Italy, neither of which seemed
like appealing options.
This left me rather confused and I responded,
probably unwisely, by lying to the new Germany, stabbing him,
and getting the satisfaction of taking Belgium back for a while. I tried
what was very much a plan B of allying with Russia against
G/E.
It didn't work. Russia was wiped out, Germany
and England stayed friends, and I was forced to turn to my Italian ally for
support. A three way alliance of A/I/F was always going to make steady progress
against G/E, and I had hopes of a three-way draw, but G/E- perhaps
understandably, given how I had provoked them! - chose to cede supply centres to
Austria on their eastern flank while throwing their full weight against France
on their western flank. Inevitably this forced me to put all my forces on my
northern front, leaving myself wide open to the inevitable Italian invasion
through the Med.
This achieved Germany's short-term aim of forcing
me to swap sides, in the hope that a G/E/F defensive front could force a
five-way draw. But A/I had timed their strike against me well, and already had
enough strength between them to power ahead to victory - eventually graciously
conceding a two-way draw which left me among the three survivors. Well played
Benjamin and Jim.
----- Original Message -----
From:
Josh E.
To: dc261(at)diplomaticcorp.com ; Mark Duffield ; Benjamin
Hester ; Ben Leapman ; Jim
Rossiter ; Jorge Saralegui ; Eric
Shum ; David
Zilkha
Cc: Mike Sims ; Josh Engsberg
Sent: Friday, May 14, 2010 4:23 AM
Subject: DC261 - GAME OVER!
Well folks all the votes are in, and with a unanimous decision I
declare:
Austria & Italy will share in a 2-way
draw!
with
England, France, Germany have surviving their
onslaught.
Congratulations to James and Benjamin on a well executed
campaign!
Thank you all for a great game. It has been my pleasure to
listen in and watch as the game progressed, and I wouldn't hesitate for a
moment to have each and every one of you back in any of my future games.
- Josh |
| DC301 - TTP - Fall 1905: End of Game - Kendercommander (May 25, 2010, 5:42 pm) |
Good Evening!
Ordinarily I'm quite an advocate for EOGs, but my memory is honestly quite flagging. So, yes I'll do an EOG, but it will be rather short and lacking a thorough chronological journal.
Thank you Douglas for hosting this variant -- I am a little sad that my "custom" empire happened to be Austria-shuffle-south, but it was still entertaining and being able to call myself "Yugoslavia", for all the good it pragmatically did, served to keep my attention quite well. I one day hope to run a game as smooth[ly] as yours.
I was flattered with how many players wanted to work with me, and genuinely seemed to follow through on the goal -- the exception naturally being post-Turkey Russia, but I DID open into Rumania, and things went pretty south after that... Honestly, I was planning on wiping Turkey out as soon as possible with Russian help -- his opening to Greece was, while quite a natural opening, rather threatening to my Balkan Empire. Russia, forgive my betrayal -- you held out til' the end, and forgive any unnecessary treachery on my part -- for me, half the fun is the con, not the end.
Now, I have been a small nation before a large one in past games and I understand, though many players say it "poor showmanship" or whatever, that the first and most satisfying reaction is to act however you damn well please, survival or not, just to prove that you DO have an effect on the game. To me, this is a fundamental concept necessary for "soft" conquering -- as long as a player feels that they have choices and input, and most importantly that you've GIVEN them this, they will likely follow you to the grave or until you REVOKE such freedom. Unfortunately for me, it was this second point that I did not tread upon quite hard enough and towards the end my Turkish "vassal" became a liability that I honestly could do nothing about.
I trusted him explicitly [barring that one scare], so it never came of much, although I do believe some of my later orders would've given him cause for concern -- perhaps rightly so, I can't honestly recall what my strategy was there. For what it's worth, thanks for sticking by me even though I could've been an easy stab at several points.
Italy, though I had initially quite determined that I would eliminate you with French assistance, a curious movement by Russia made my natural paranoia look for allies -- I kept telling France "one more season!", waving those perfect chances to bounce you for home centres, and eventually we fell into a perfect demilitarized peace -- I daresay we never had any misunderstanding [except maybe my arrogantly declared ship, I don't know]. Towards the end France and Germany had convinced me that an alliance with them was useful, and sadly that meant to had to go -- luckily, I never had to realize your end. Thanks for sticking with me for better or worse, and in essence serving as my navy.
France, I honestly began with the idea of an AF alliance taking the board. I found myself the weakest player at the start, and kept equivocating because I didn't want unnecessary risks -- and I'm sure you gave up on my wishy-washy self after a while. All the same, I quite enjoyed our communications -- I recall in our earlier exchanges I took liberties and expressed my ideas in prose too flowery for what was to be exterminating our neighbour. Fun, all the same -- thanks.
Germany, it was [ironically] your equivocation as you said that led to your stunted growth. I asked for assistance and you would always just sit it out, and eventually I determined [while being very wishy-washy myself] that I'd run my way through the alps.
England, we didn't interact much until the end, although we were entirely misaligned for my hypothetical solo, so I was a little loathe to trust you -- all the same, you helped me break the stalemate and, in theory, we could have ground our way through Franco-Germany. But, by that time the game had lost it's flare, and I thought I'd give stabbing you a half-hearted go. Sorry, for what it's worth.
I am first an foremost a player for the melodramatic -- I'm sure more than half of you realize that. Second, I play for the fun of conning, alliances, and, in general, communications: This ties in with the first. Thirdly, I play to win. And in this game, though I thought for a moment I was well on my way to a solo, I had lost the interesting exchanges, and my lazy attempts at stabbing didn't garner anything new. In my books, I had "won" my conditions when I had literally every [surviving] player on the board suggesting an alliance with me, the largest nation. Granted, a few of these offers were only to break a stalemate, but all the same I had a roaring good time for quite a while there. Thank you everyone for an entertaining game!
Any questions or comments, and I'll try my best to answer.
Hope to see you all on the battlefield again some time!-K.T.Yugoslavia
From: lindav123(at)hotmail.com
To: dirk(at)knemeyer.com; douglasefresh(at)googlemail.com
CC: livinglifeforothers(at)gmail.com; mike_hyman(at)hotmail.com; michaelfaraday(at)live.com; mistro914(at)gmail.com; dc301(at)diplomaticcorp.com; rob.a.goodwin(at)googlemail.com
Subject: RE: DC301 - TTP - Fall 1905: End of Game
Date: Tue, 25 May 2010 18:23:48 +0100
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> P.S. - David, at least from my side, all of our antipathy was in good
> fun, frustrated though I really was!!!
ha ha...well, from my side....MOST of it was in good fun
seriously your "own lack of strategic planning" drove me absolutely insane this game....when someones diplomacy is sending you one message but their moves on the board something TOTALLY OPPOSITE, it doesnt leave you many options!!!
But no worries, at least we somehow managed to salvage a draw out of it. Despite all the bad blood Id still look forward to another game with both you and Michael. It was never personal for me.
Congrats to Austria though....clearly head and shoulders deserved the board top this game.
Cheers Doug, nice variant, I'd certainly play it again.
> CC: lindav123(at)hotmail.com; livinglifeforothers(at)gmail.com; mike_hyman(at)hotmail.com; michaelfaraday(at)live.com; mistro914(at)gmail.com; dc301(at)diplomaticcorp.com; rob.a.goodwin(at)googlemail.com
> From: dirk(at)knemeyer.com
> To: douglasefresh(at)googlemail.com
> Subject: Re: DC301 - TTP - Fall 1905: End of Game[Reply] |
| DC309 Autumn 1904 results (official) - TheWhiteWolf (May 25, 2010, 2:32 pm) |
Yeah, my wife played for a while. We only argued when we were in the same game and I turned into a raging jerk over negotiations. Or when it's my turn to do (insert chore here) and I have to write that email NOW. That last one seems to be a trend.
Andy
I'm a Firefly fan and proud! Read my fiction:
http://www.fanfiction.net/u/1369632/
From: John R <untitled36(at)yahoo.com>
To: Mike Tombu <mtombu(at)gmail.com>
Cc: The White Wolf <cloudhurler77(at)yahoo.com>; Dan Dzikowicz <ddz999cat23(at)yahoo.com>; Sean Cable <blueinva(at)cox.net>; Raymond Setzer <mczet99(at)gmail.com>; Philip King <ilovethechiefs(at)gmail.com>; Nathan Deily <ndeily(at)yahoo.com>; "dc309(at)diplomaticcorp.com" <dc309(at)diplomaticcorp.com>
Sent: Tue, May 25, 2010 1:47:49 PM
Subject: Re: DC309 Autumn 1904 results (official)
I'm married. It's not normally an issue. Except when she's like "let's take the kids to (fill in the blank)," and I say "I can't! If I don't write this email RIGHT NOW, then the centaurs and fairies will take over the nomads, and I need the nomads to survive so they don't take me down next!" Actually, it's not that bad. I know Andy (white wolf) and his wife both play. Mine thinks it's boring (blasphemy, i know!).
John
From: Mike Tombu <mtombu(at)gmail.com>
To: John R <untitled36(at)yahoo.com>
Cc: The White Wolf <cloudhurler77(at)yahoo.com>; Dan Dzikowicz <ddz999cat23(at)yahoo.com>; Sean Cable <blueinva(at)cox.net>; Raymond Setzer <mczet99(at)gmail.com>; Philip King <ilovethechiefs(at)gmail.com>; Nathan Deily <ndeily(at)yahoo.com>; "dc309(at)diplomaticcorp.com" <dc309(at)diplomaticcorp.com>
Sent: Tue, May 25, 2010 12:39:36 PM
Subject: Re: DC309 Autumn 1904 results (official)
Lol! She knows I play a game, but I'm not sure she knows it's dip. I'm usually only involved in one game at a time, so it's not that big of a deal... Or at least I hope it isn't! Any married guys out there? Is dip a bone of contention?
Sent from my iPhone
On 2010-05-25, at 9:27 AM, John R <untitled36(at)yahoo.com> wrote:
Congrats Mike! Does she know about your diplomacy addiction?
John
From: Mike Tombu <mtombu(at)gmail.com>
To: The White Wolf <cloudhurler77(at)yahoo.com>
Cc: Dan Dzikowicz <ddz999cat23(at)yahoo.com>; Sean Cable <blueinva(at)cox.net>; Raymond Setzer <mczet99(at)gmail.com>; John R <untitled36(at)yahoo.com>; Philip King <ilovethechiefs(at)gmail.com>; Nathan Deily <ndeily(at)yahoo.com>; "dc309(at)diplomaticcorp.com" <dc309(at)diplomaticcorp.com>
Sent: Mon, May 24, 2010 6:56:26 PM
Subject: Re: DC309 Autumn 1904 results (official)
Thanks - I will!
Sent from my iPhone
On 2010-05-24, at 6:30 PM, The White Wolf <cloudhurler77(at)yahoo.com> wrote:
Congratulations, Mike! Have a piece of cake for all of us.
Andy
I'm a Firefly fan and proud! Read my fiction:
http://www.fanfiction.net/u/1369632/
From: mike Tombu <mtombu(at)gmail.com>
To: mike Tombu <mtombu(at)gmail.com>
Cc: The White Wolf <cloudhurler77(at)yahoo.com>; Dan Dzikowicz <ddz999cat23(at)yahoo.com>; Sean Cable <blueinva(at)cox.net>; Raymond Setzer <mczet99(at)gmail.com>; John R <untitled36(at)yahoo.com>; Philip King <ilovethechiefs(at)gmail.com>; Nathan Deily <ndeily(at)yahoo.com>; "dc309(at)diplomaticcorp.com" <dc309(at)diplomaticcorp.com>
Sent: Mon, May 24, 2010 6:09:17 PM
Subject: DC309 Autumn 1904 results (official)
Hey All,
Here's the official adjudications. Enjoy the break! I'm moving and getting married between now and the next deadline, so I may not have great access.
Players:
Austria: Phil <ilovethechiefs(at)gmail.com>
England: Andy <cloudhurler77(at)yahoo.com>
France: Dan <ddz999cat23(at)yahoo.com>
Germany: Ray <mczet99(at)gmail.com>
Italy: Blue <blueinva(at)cox.net>
Russia: John <untitled36(at)yahoo.com>
Turkey: Nathan
<ndeily(at)yahoo.com> *eliminated Winter 1904*
Orders as received:
France:
A Bel - Pic
A Bur - Par
Orders as adjudicated by me:
A Bel - Pic
A Bur - Par
Adjustments:
Austria may build 1. 8 SCs.
England is even. 2 SCs.
France is even. 6 SCs.
Germany is even. 6 SCs.
Italy may build 1. 7 SCs.
Russia is even. 5 SCs.
Turkey must disband 1 (which I'll do automatically. No need to submit). 0 SCs.
Deadlines:
Winter 1904 deadline is the 4th of June at 9 pm ET.
Spring 1905 deadline is the 9th of June at 9 pm ET.
Best,
Mike[Reply] |
| dc311 Summer '09 Results - notasb (May 25, 2010, 2:02 pm) |
Austria - Bruce Ray
England - Daniel Dzikowicz
France - Nick Powell
Germany - Dirk Knemeyer
Italy - Jason K
Russia - Paul Russell
Turkey - Hamish Williams
GM Notes:
We have 2 End Game proposals to vote in the Fall
1) England & Germany draw with Austria and Turkey as Survivors.
2) Austria, Germany & Turkey draw
Map:
http://home.comcast.net/~dawench/311/31109Summer.gif
Deadline:
Fall and Votes are due Thursday May 27th 2 pm CDST (GMT -5) 1900 GMT
Retreats:
Germany:
F Helgoland Bight - Holland
F Sweden - Gulf of Bothnia
------------
Experience is a wonderful thing. It
enables you to recognize a mistake when you make it again.
The New Busy think 9 to 5 is a cute idea. Combine multiple calendars with Hotmail. Get busy.[Reply] |
| DC 302 spring 1907 - psychosis1973 (May 25, 2010, 1:54 pm) |
Fall deadline is 24 hours or so away, and still not got orders from everyone - get them in!
--- On Fri, 21/5/10, Michael Thompson wrote:
From: Michael Thompson
Subject: Re: DC 302 spring 1907
To: "bielschowsky.f(at)googlemail.com" , "stevenseph1(at)aim.com" , "chessman121212(at)gmail.com" , "porkbelly00(at)gmail.com" , "sean_o_donnell(at)hotmail.com" , "Simon.Langley-Evans(at)nottingham.ac.uk" , "mlb767(at)aim.com"
Cc: dc302(at)diplomaticcorp.com
Date: Friday, 21 May, 2010, 14:14
As I've already received orders from
two of the four remaining active powers, I thought I'd
suggest that if I receive four sets of orders confirmed as
final before the suggested deadline, I'll adjudicate.
The two players I've received orders from (naming no names,
Simon and Sean!!) would need to confirm that their orders
are final...
Mihcael
--- On Thu, 20/5/10, Michael Thompson
wrote:
From: Michael Thompson
Subject: DC 302 spring 1907
To: "bielschowsky.f(at)googlemail.com"
,
"stevenseph1(at)aim.com"
,
"chessman121212(at)gmail.com"
,
"porkbelly00(at)gmail.com"
,
"sean_o_donnell(at)hotmail.com"
,
"Simon.Langley-Evans(at)nottingham.ac.uk"
,
"mlb767(at)aim.com"
Cc: dc302(at)diplomaticcorp.com
Date: Thursday, 20 May, 2010, 21:32
Spring 1907...and Italy looks to be
on the way out, as he loses two centres to advancing
Turkish
forces, whilst Tunis will surely fall in the Fall.
Elsewhere, Russian attempts to tactically withdraw
from
Denmark are thwarted by a french advance east.
Europe
looks to be descending into a three way battle...
Russia only had one retreat of his Danish army - to
Sweden,
which I've made. Sean, if you want ot disband that
army, let me know asap. Fall deadline is Wednesday
26th May 2100 GMT
Michael
Spring moves:
Austria:
A Budapest, no move received
France:
A Belgium - Ruhr (*Fails*)
A Berlin - Prussia (*Bounce*)
F Brest - Mid-Atlantic Ocean
F Edinburgh - Norwegian Sea
F Gulf of Lyon - Tyrrhenian Sea
F Holland - Helgoland Bight
A Kiel - Denmark
A Marseilles - Piedmont
F Mid-Atlantic Ocean - North Africa
A Munich - Silesia (*Bounce*)
F North Sea Supports A Kiel - Denmark
A Ruhr - Munich (*Fails*)
F Western Mediterranean Supports F Gulf of Lyon -
Tyrrhenian Sea
Italy:
A Rome - Tuscany
F Tunis - Ionian Sea (*Fails*)
A Vienna - Bohemia
Russia:
F Baltic Sea Convoys A Denmark - Prussia
A Denmark - Prussia (*Dislodged*)
A Moscow - St Petersburg
A Norway Hold
A Warsaw - Silesia (*Bounce*)
Turkey:
F Albania Supports F Apulia - Ionian Sea
A Ankara - Rumania
F Apulia - Ionian Sea
F Black Sea Convoys A Ankara - Rumania
A Constantinople - Bulgaria
A Galicia - Vienna
F Naples - Rome
F Smyrna - Aegean Sea
A Trieste Supports A Galicia - Vienna
A Ukraine - Galicia
F Venice - Adriatic Sea
Summer retreats:
Russia:
A Denmark - Sweden
[Reply] |
| DC287 - Fall 2004 reminder - Viper (May 25, 2010, 12:50 pm) |
Hey all... we've got just over 24 hours until the next deadline. I'm still looking for a lot of your orders.
mvp[Reply] |
| DC309 Autumn 1904 results (official) - untitled36 (May 25, 2010, 12:47 pm) |
I'm married. It's not normally an issue. Except when she's like "let's take the kids to (fill in the blank)," and I say "I can't! If I don't write this email RIGHT NOW, then the centaurs and fairies will take over the nomads, and I need the nomads to survive so they don't take me down next!" Actually, it's not that bad. I know Andy (white wolf) and his wife both play. Mine thinks it's boring (blasphemy, i know!).
John
From: Mike Tombu <mtombu(at)gmail.com>
To: John R <untitled36(at)yahoo.com>
Cc: The White Wolf <cloudhurler77(at)yahoo.com>; Dan Dzikowicz <ddz999cat23(at)yahoo.com>; Sean Cable <blueinva(at)cox.net>; Raymond Setzer <mczet99(at)gmail.com>; Philip King <ilovethechiefs(at)gmail.com>; Nathan Deily <ndeily(at)yahoo.com>; "dc309(at)diplomaticcorp.com" <dc309(at)diplomaticcorp.com>
Sent: Tue, May 25, 2010 12:39:36 PM
Subject: Re: DC309 Autumn 1904 results (official)
Lol! She knows I play a game, but I'm not sure she knows it's dip. I'm usually only involved in one game at a time, so it's not that big of a deal... Or at least I hope it isn't! Any married guys out there? Is dip a bone of contention?
Sent from my iPhone
On 2010-05-25, at 9:27 AM, John R <untitled36(at)yahoo.com> wrote:
Congrats Mike! Does she know about your diplomacy addiction?
John
From: Mike Tombu <mtombu(at)gmail.com>
To: The White Wolf <cloudhurler77(at)yahoo.com>
Cc: Dan Dzikowicz <ddz999cat23(at)yahoo.com>; Sean Cable <blueinva(at)cox.net>; Raymond Setzer <mczet99(at)gmail.com>; John R <untitled36(at)yahoo.com>; Philip King <ilovethechiefs(at)gmail.com>; Nathan Deily <ndeily(at)yahoo.com>; "dc309(at)diplomaticcorp.com" <dc309(at)diplomaticcorp.com>
Sent: Mon, May 24, 2010 6:56:26 PM
Subject: Re: DC309 Autumn 1904 results (official)
Thanks - I will!
Sent from my iPhone
On 2010-05-24, at 6:30 PM, The White Wolf <cloudhurler77(at)yahoo.com> wrote:
Congratulations, Mike! Have a piece of cake for all of us.
Andy
I'm a Firefly fan and proud! Read my fiction:
http://www.fanfiction.net/u/1369632/
From: mike Tombu <mtombu(at)gmail.com>
To: mike Tombu <mtombu(at)gmail.com>
Cc: The White Wolf <cloudhurler77(at)yahoo.com>; Dan Dzikowicz <ddz999cat23(at)yahoo.com>; Sean Cable <blueinva(at)cox.net>; Raymond Setzer <mczet99(at)gmail.com>; John R <untitled36(at)yahoo.com>; Philip King <ilovethechiefs(at)gmail.com>; Nathan Deily <ndeily(at)yahoo.com>; "dc309(at)diplomaticcorp.com" <dc309(at)diplomaticcorp.com>
Sent: Mon, May 24, 2010 6:09:17 PM
Subject: DC309 Autumn 1904 results (official)
Hey All,
Here's the official adjudications. Enjoy the break! I'm moving and getting married between now and the next deadline, so I may not have great access.
Players:
Austria: Phil <ilovethechiefs(at)gmail.com>
England: Andy <cloudhurler77(at)yahoo.com>
France: Dan <ddz999cat23(at)yahoo.com>
Germany: Ray <mczet99(at)gmail.com>
Italy: Blue <blueinva(at)cox.net>
Russia: John <untitled36(at)yahoo.com>
Turkey: Nathan
<ndeily(at)yahoo.com> *eliminated Winter 1904*
Orders as received:
France:
A Bel - Pic
A Bur - Par
Orders as adjudicated by me:
A Bel - Pic
A Bur - Par
Adjustments:
Austria may build 1. 8 SCs.
England is even. 2 SCs.
France is even. 6 SCs.
Germany is even. 6 SCs.
Italy may build 1. 7 SCs.
Russia is even. 5 SCs.
Turkey must disband 1 (which I'll do automatically. No need to submit). 0 SCs.
Deadlines:
Winter 1904 deadline is the 4th of June at 9 pm ET.
Spring 1905 deadline is the 9th of June at 9 pm ET.
Best,
Mike[Reply] |
| DC309 Autumn 1904 results (official) - mtombu (May 25, 2010, 12:39 pm) |
Lol! She knows I play a game, but I'm not sure she knows it's dip. I'm usually only involved in one game at a time, so it's not that big of a deal... Or at least I hope it isn't! Any married guys out there? Is dip a bone of contention?
Sent from my iPhone
On 2010-05-25, at 9:27 AM, John R <untitled36(at)yahoo.com> wrote:
Congrats Mike! Does she know about your diplomacy addiction?
John
From: Mike Tombu <mtombu(at)gmail.com>
To: The White Wolf <cloudhurler77(at)yahoo.com>
Cc: Dan Dzikowicz <ddz999cat23(at)yahoo.com>; Sean Cable <blueinva(at)cox.net>; Raymond Setzer <mczet99(at)gmail.com>; John R <untitled36(at)yahoo.com>; Philip King <ilovethechiefs(at)gmail.com>; Nathan Deily <ndeily(at)yahoo.com>; "dc309(at)diplomaticcorp.com" <dc309(at)diplomaticcorp.com>
Sent: Mon, May 24, 2010 6:56:26 PM
Subject: Re: DC309 Autumn 1904 results (official)
Thanks - I will!
Sent from my iPhone
On 2010-05-24, at 6:30 PM, The White Wolf <cloudhurler77(at)yahoo.com> wrote:
Congratulations, Mike! Have a piece of cake for all of us.
Andy
I'm a Firefly fan and proud! Read my fiction:
http://www.fanfiction.net/u/1369632/
From: mike Tombu <mtombu(at)gmail.com>
To: mike Tombu <mtombu(at)gmail.com>
Cc: The White Wolf <cloudhurler77(at)yahoo.com>; Dan Dzikowicz <ddz999cat23(at)yahoo.com>; Sean Cable <blueinva(at)cox.net>; Raymond Setzer <mczet99(at)gmail.com>; John R <untitled36(at)yahoo.com>; Philip King <ilovethechiefs(at)gmail.com>; Nathan Deily <ndeily(at)yahoo.com>; "dc309(at)diplomaticcorp.com" <dc309(at)diplomaticcorp.com>
Sent: Mon, May 24, 2010 6:09:17 PM
Subject: DC309 Autumn 1904 results
(official)
Hey All,
Here's the official adjudications. Enjoy the break! I'm moving and getting married between now and the next deadline, so I may not have great access.
Players:
Austria: Phil <ilovethechiefs(at)gmail.com>
England: Andy <cloudhurler77(at)yahoo.com>
France: Dan <ddz999cat23(at)yahoo.com>
Germany: Ray <mczet99(at)gmail.com>
Italy: Blue <blueinva(at)cox.net>
Russia: John <untitled36(at)yahoo.com>
Turkey: Nathan
<ndeily(at)yahoo.com> *eliminated Winter 1904*
Orders as received:
France:
A Bel - Pic
A Bur - Par
Orders as adjudicated by me:
A Bel - Pic
A Bur - Par
Adjustments:
Austria may build 1. 8 SCs.
England is even. 2 SCs.
France is even. 6 SCs.
Germany is even. 6 SCs.
Italy may build 1. 7 SCs.
Russia is even. 5 SCs.
Turkey must disband 1 (which I'll do automatically. No need to submit). 0 SCs.
Deadlines:
Winter 1904 deadline is the 4th of June at 9 pm ET.
Spring 1905 deadline is the 9th of June at 9 pm ET.
Best,
Mike[Reply] |
| DC301 - TTP - Fall 1905: End of Game - LinDav123 (May 25, 2010, 12:23 pm) |
> P.S. - David, at least from my side, all of our antipathy was in good
> fun, frustrated though I really was!!!
ha ha...well, from my side....MOST of it was in good fun
seriously your "own lack of strategic planning" drove me absolutely insane this game....when someones diplomacy is sending you one message but their moves on the board something TOTALLY OPPOSITE, it doesnt leave you many options!!!
But no worries, at least we somehow managed to salvage a draw out of it. Despite all the bad blood Id still look forward to another game with both you and Michael. It was never personal for me.
Congrats to Austria though....clearly head and shoulders deserved the board top this game.
Cheers Doug, nice variant, I'd certainly play it again.
> CC: lindav123(at)hotmail.com; livinglifeforothers(at)gmail.com; mike_hyman(at)hotmail.com; michaelfaraday(at)live.com; mistro914(at)gmail.com; dc301(at)diplomaticcorp.com; rob.a.goodwin(at)googlemail.com
> From: dirk(at)knemeyer.com
> To: douglasefresh(at)googlemail.com
> Subject: Re: DC301 - TTP - Fall 1905: End of Game[Reply] |
| DC301 - TTP - Fall 1905: End of Game - Douglas_E_Fresh (May 25, 2010, 9:41 am) |
Thanks for your comments Dirk - I think I gave access to the forum for redscape users - no matter, I shall post your comments for posterity!
Anyone else have anything to say?
On Tue, May 25, 2010 at 3:16 PM, Dirk Knemeyer <dirk(at)knemeyer.com> wrote:
Hi Doug,
Thanks for being an excellent GM, consistently timely with a lot of flavour text and fun little add-ons.
This was easily my least rewarding and fulfilling game of Dip played so far. For that, I certainly blame myself. This was my first time playing a variant like this where you had great control over your starting units. I made what I imagine to be a classic mistake, of trying to do something different and creative at the expense of having a good strategic plan. So it was that I clumsily set up my starting centers with a strongly north-northwest deployment without have a good diplomatic plan for either crushing England or working in concert with him. This ambiguity of purpose quickly led me to a marginalized board position. If I hadn't become buddies with Michael (France) I certainly would have been eliminated.
I was very much looking forward to this variant, so when my own lack of strategic planning made the game go quickly sideways, it was indeed a disappointment. In retrospect the only thing I really enjoyed in this game as it played out was my friendship with Michael and talking about moves. But even there, I had kind of "checked out" early in the game and my contributions to our tactical planning were often littered with mistakes and oversights. Sorry for not bringing my "A" game, Michael.
"Taking the Peace" was not my finest hour of dip. I do like the variant and think Doug is a quality GM, so will be looking to play this and with Doug again in the future.
I tried posting this at Redscape but it said only users with "Special Access" can post in that forum. Which apparently means not me! Feel free to reprint this over there...
Dirk
P.S. - David, at least from my side, all of our antipathy was in good fun, frustrated though I really was!!!
On May 25, 2010, at 7:49 AM, Douglas Fresh wrote:
The Summer sun twinkled on the surface of the Saone, as the dignitaries made their slow procession over the bridge and in to the city of Macon. In the square in front of the Hôtel de Montrevel, a huge mahogany table had been placed and, flanked by smartly suited attendants, six high backed chairs evenly-spaced around it.
Promising the coming of Fall; a cool breeze whipped at the huge stack of paper work piled on the table, and adjutants struggled to keep all in place as the dignitaries gathered about it.
Tesarik took his seat first and, reaching for a crystal decanter of Pouilly-Fuisse, grabbed it with both hands and took a large swig, before wiping his beard on the sleeve of his overcoat.
Commandant Ciro, of the Mediterranean People's Coalition sat to his right and smiled at those about him as if greeting long-lost family members at a late Summer's picnic.
Taking a seat to Tesarik's left, the Turkish delegate eyed the assembled warily before nibbling at some of the egg and cress sandwiches proffered by an attendant.
Across the table sat the general of the Realm of Frankish Visigoths alongside President Franz Heinrich of Greater Hannover. Looking battle-weary, but dignified, the pair eyed the English Prime Minister; the figurehead of the United Kingdoms of Great Britain and Scandinavia - noting their impatience - took his cue and began his address.
From his position in the front ranks of the Yugoslav honour guard, Agent Fresh watched the dignitaries as they waded through the paving-slab-thick peace agreement. The Head of each state finally took his turn in signing the Macon Accord, and with a splash of ink on paper, the first war in Europe in five hundred years was ended.
Agent Fresh felt the weight of his shouldered rifle and stifled the urge to raise it. The statesmen before him had caused untold terror and bloodshed, not to mention the extermination of the Russian people... surely the deserved to pay for what they had done?
But no. There had been bloodshed enough; and martyrdom to some fictionial cause was not really a facet of Fresh's personality. Besides, the Peace attained, must now be maintained, and in his deep-cover as an officer in the Yugoslav national Army, Agent Fresh was poised to carry out the work of the League of Shadows and to see to it that: Never again would the ugly shadow of war fall across the face of the continent they all must now share.
********************
Dear Players,
Many thanks for your participation in this game. I hope that you enjoyed it and look forward to seeing you around another board at some time in the future.
If you wish to write any End Of Game comments or reports, please post them in the redscape forum: (http://www.redscape.com/forum/viewforum.php?f=982&sid=c60e5ff9651e8d60c3f6d30c17f828d0) and also email them to all players, including dc301(at)diplomaticcorp.com, so they go on the forum (wherever that is!)
The proposed and unused moves for Fall 1905 were as follows:
PROPOSED MILITARY MANOUVRES FALL 1905.
YUGOSLAVIA
A bur - gas
A mun - bur
A pru - sil
A ber holds
F gre holds
A bul - con
A rum - sev
A mos supports A rum - sev
A tyr - ven
YES
UNITED KINGDOM OF GREAT BRITAIN & SCANDINAVIA
proposed DIAS
VOTE YES to DIAS
A STP S A Sev - Mos
F Kie - Hol
F NTHS F Kie - Hol
F Den - HEL
F Wal - ENG
A Yor - Edi
F Nwy S F NTH H
FRANKISH & VISIGOTHIC REALM
F Lyo S A Mar - PIE
F MAO - NAO
A Mar - PIE
A Pic - Par
F Tun - S F WES - TYS
F WES - TYS
I vote for the draw
GREATER HANNOVER
F Bel S Ruh - Hol
F Bre - ENG
A Ruh - Hol
VOTE YES!!!!!!!!!!!
MEDITERRANEAN PEOPLES CONFEDERATION
A Pie to Venice
F Naples to Apulia
F Tys to Ion
F Tus to Tys
YES
TURKEY
YES
NMR
<TTP_EOG.gif>[Reply] |
| DC301 - TTP - Fall 1905: End of Game - dknemeyer (May 25, 2010, 9:16 am) |
Hi Doug,
Thanks for being an excellent GM, consistently timely with a lot of
flavour text and fun little add-ons.
This was easily my least rewarding and fulfilling game of Dip played
so far. For that, I certainly blame myself. This was my first time
playing a variant like this where you had great control over your
starting units. I made what I imagine to be a classic mistake, of
trying to do something different and creative at the expense of having
a good strategic plan. So it was that I clumsily set up my starting
centers with a strongly north-northwest deployment without have a good
diplomatic plan for either crushing England or working in concert with
him. This ambiguity of purpose quickly led me to a marginalized board
position. If I hadn't become buddies with Michael (France) I certainly
would have been eliminated.
I was very much looking forward to this variant, so when my own lack
of strategic planning made the game go quickly sideways, it was indeed
a disappointment. In retrospect the only thing I really enjoyed in
this game as it played out was my friendship with Michael and talking
about moves. But even there, I had kind of "checked out" early in the
game and my contributions to our tactical planning were often littered
with mistakes and oversights. Sorry for not bringing my "A" game,
Michael.
"Taking the Peace" was not my finest hour of dip. I do like the
variant and think Doug is a quality GM, so will be looking to play
this and with Doug again in the future.
I tried posting this at Redscape but it said only users with "Special
Access" can post in that forum. Which apparently means not me!
Feel free to reprint this over there...
Dirk
P.S. - David, at least from my side, all of our antipathy was in good
fun, frustrated though I really was!!!
On May 25, 2010, at 7:49 AM, Douglas Fresh wrote:
The Summer sun twinkled on the surface of the Saone, as the
dignitaries made their slow procession over the bridge and in to the
city of Macon. In the square in front of the Hôtel de Montrevel, a
huge mahogany table had been placed and, flanked by smartly suited
attendants, six high backed chairs evenly-spaced around it.
Promising the coming of Fall; a cool breeze whipped at the huge
stack of paper work piled on the table, and adjutants struggled to
keep all in place as the dignitaries gathered about it.
Tesarik took his seat first and, reaching for a crystal decanter of
Pouilly-Fuisse, grabbed it with both hands and took a large swig,
before wiping his beard on the sleeve of his overcoat.
Commandant Ciro, of the Mediterranean People's Coalition sat to his
right and smiled at those about him as if greeting long-lost family
members at a late Summer's picnic.
Taking a seat to Tesarik's left, the Turkish delegate eyed the
assembled warily before nibbling at some of the egg and cress
sandwiches proffered by an attendant.
Across the table sat the general of the Realm of Frankish Visigoths
alongside President Franz Heinrich of Greater Hannover. Looking
battle-weary, but dignified, the pair eyed the English Prime
Minister; the figurehead of the United Kingdoms of Great Britain and
Scandinavia - noting their impatience - took his cue and began his
address.
From his position in the front ranks of the Yugoslav honour guard,
Agent Fresh watched the dignitaries as they waded through the paving-
slab-thick peace agreement. The Head of each state finally took his
turn in signing the Macon Accord, and with a splash of ink on paper,
the first war in Europe in five hundred years was ended.
Agent Fresh felt the weight of his shouldered rifle and stifled the
urge to raise it. The statesmen before him had caused untold terror
and bloodshed, not to mention the extermination of the Russian
people... surely the deserved to pay for what they had done?
But no. There had been bloodshed enough; and martyrdom to some
fictionial cause was not really a facet of Fresh's personality.
Besides, the Peace attained, must now be maintained, and in his deep-
cover as an officer in the Yugoslav national Army, Agent Fresh was
poised to carry out the work of the League of Shadows and to see to
it that: Never again would the ugly shadow of war fall across the
face of the continent they all must now share.
********************
Dear Players,
Many thanks for your participation in this game. I hope that you
enjoyed it and look forward to seeing you around another board at
some time in the future.
If you wish to write any End Of Game comments or reports, please
post them in the redscape forum: (http://www.redscape.com/forum/viewforum.php?f=982&sid=c60e5ff9651e8d60c3f6d30c17f828d0
) and also email them to all players, including dc301(at)diplomaticcorp.com
, so they go on the forum (wherever that is!)
The proposed and unused moves for Fall 1905 were as follows:
PROPOSED MILITARY MANOUVRES FALL 1905.
YUGOSLAVIA
A bur - gas
A mun - bur
A pru - sil
A ber holds
F gre holds
A bul - con
A rum - sev
A mos supports A rum - sev
A tyr - ven
YES
UNITED KINGDOM OF GREAT BRITAIN & SCANDINAVIA
proposed DIAS
VOTE YES to DIAS
A STP S A Sev - Mos
F Kie - Hol
F NTHS F Kie - Hol
F Den - HEL
F Wal - ENG
A Yor - Edi
F Nwy S F NTH H
FRANKISH & VISIGOTHIC REALM
F Lyo S A Mar - PIE
F MAO - NAO
A Mar - PIE
A Pic - Par
F Tun - S F WES - TYS
F WES - TYS
I vote for the draw
GREATER HANNOVER
F Bel S Ruh - Hol
F Bre - ENG
A Ruh - Hol
VOTE YES!!!!!!!!!!!
MEDITERRANEAN PEOPLES CONFEDERATION
A Pie to Venice
F Naples to Apulia
F Tys to Ion
F Tus to Tys
YES
TURKEY
YES
NMR[Reply] |
