| DC201 (Viking) - Winter 959 adjustments - CORRECTI... - bielf11 (Dec 21, 2008, 9:37 pm) |
Please note that for some reason RealPolitik removed the army Sweden just built in Przemysl.
It allows me to build it there but when I choose Resolve and the Commit, the unit is gone.
While I try to resolve this, please keep in mind that the unit is actually there.
Frank
---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: F Bielschowsky <bielschowsky.f(at)googlemail.com ([email]bielschowsky.f(at)googlemail.com[/email])>
Date: 2008/12/18
Subject: DC201 (Viking) - Winter 959 adjustments & Vote
To: dc201(at)diplomaticcorp.com ([email]dc201(at)diplomaticcorp.com[/email]), "Douglas Kent (DC201 Burgundy)" <dougray30(at)yahoo.com ([email]dougray30(at)yahoo.com[/email])>, "Jack McHugh - Flapjack (DC223 AH / DC201 Sverige)" <jwmchughjr(at)gmail.com ([email]jwmchughjr(at)gmail.com[/email])>, "Jorge Saralegui (DC201 ERE)" <jmsaralegui(at)gmail.com ([email]jmsaralegui(at)gmail.com[/email])>, "Steve Lytton (DC195 Columbia / DC201 Norge)" <stevelytton(at)hotmail.com ([email]stevelytton(at)hotmail.com[/email])>, "Kurt Weihs - Sturmkraehe (DC201 Slavic)" <sturmkraehe(at)comcast.net ([email]sturmkraehe(at)comcast.net[/email])>
Cc: "Andy Stroup - ajiowa (DC201 Arab)" <ajstroup1(at)yahoo.com ([email]ajstroup1(at)yahoo.com[/email])>, "Former Trout (DC190 South Africa / DC176 Austria / DC195 Argentina / DC201 France)" <former.trout(at)gmail.com ([email]former.trout(at)gmail.com[/email])>, "Jackson Foster - Kai (DC201 Danmark)" <jrobfoster(at)gmail.com ([email]jrobfoster(at)gmail.com[/email])>, "Lee Taylor (DC201 former Burgundy)" <leewarrentaylor(at)yahoo.co.uk ([email]leewarrentaylor(at)yahoo.co.uk[/email])>
The Winter 959 adjustments:
SlavicNations: Build A Vitebsk
Sverige: Build A Przemysl
Then the vote for a DIAS: after having received all votes, it appears the proposal was VOTED DOWN.
So, sadly  , we have to continue a while longer.
Everyone was okay with the dates so deadline for Spring 960 orders is Monday Dec 29, at 23:00 GMT.
And a note to everyone: since we started I have had to remind several players that their orders were overdue. I like to get the adjudications out as per the deadline. I don't mind adjudicating a few hours later to avoid an impact on gameplay, but at the same time I'd like to ask everyone to watch those deadlines more carefully.
Frank[Reply] |
| DC201 (Viking) - Winter 959 adjustments - CORRECTION (dc201) deathblade_penguin Dec 21, 10:08 pm |
It's because PRZ is a Slavic Home SC and technically Sweden should not be allowed to build there.
Stephen Lytton
Knight of the Rose
www.diplomaticcorp.com
Date: Sun, 21 Dec 2008 22:36:23 -0500
From: bielschowsky.f(at)googlemail.com
To: dc201(at)diplomaticcorp.com; dougray30(at)yahoo.com; jwmchughjr(at)gmail.com; jmsaralegui(at)gmail.com; stevelytton(at)hotmail.com; sturmkraehe(at)comcast.net
Subject: DC201 (Viking) - Winter 959 adjustments - CORRECTION
Please note that for some reason RealPolitik removed the army Sweden just built in Przemysl.
It allows me to build it there but when I choose Resolve and the Commit, the unit is gone.
While I try to resolve this, please keep in mind that the unit is actually there.
Frank
---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: F Bielschowsky <bielschowsky.f(at)googlemail.com ([email]bielschowsky.f(at)googlemail.com[/email])>
Date: 2008/12/18
Subject: DC201 (Viking) - Winter 959 adjustments & Vote
To: dc201(at)diplomaticcorp.com ([email]dc201(at)diplomaticcorp.com[/email]), "Douglas Kent (DC201 Burgundy)" <dougray30(at)yahoo.com ([email]dougray30(at)yahoo.com[/email])>, "Jack McHugh - Flapjack (DC223 AH / DC201 Sverige)" <jwmchughjr(at)gmail.com ([email]jwmchughjr(at)gmail.com[/email])>, "Jorge Saralegui (DC201 ERE)" <jmsaralegui(at)gmail.com ([email]jmsaralegui(at)gmail.com[/email])>, "Steve Lytton (DC195 Columbia / DC201 Norge)" <stevelytton(at)hotmail.com ([email]stevelytton(at)hotmail.com[/email])>, "Kurt Weihs - Sturmkraehe (DC201 Slavic)" <sturmkraehe(at)comcast.net ([email]sturmkraehe(at)comcast.net[/email])>
Cc: "Andy Stroup - ajiowa (DC201 Arab)" <ajstroup1(at)yahoo.com ([email]ajstroup1(at)yahoo.com[/email])>, "Former Trout (DC190 South Africa / DC176 Austria / DC195 Argentina / DC201 France)" <former.trout(at)gmail.com ([email]former.trout(at)gmail.com[/email])>, "Jackson Foster - Kai (DC201 Danmark)" <jrobfoster(at)gmail.com ([email]jrobfoster(at)gmail.com[/email])>, "Lee Taylor (DC201 former Burgundy)" <leewarrentaylor(at)yahoo.co.uk ([email]leewarrentaylor(at)yahoo.co.uk[/email])>
The Winter 959 adjustments:
SlavicNations: Build A Vitebsk
Sverige: Build A Przemysl
Then the vote for a DIAS: after having received all votes, it appears the proposal was VOTED DOWN.
So, sadly , we have to continue a while longer.
Everyone was okay with the dates so deadline for Spring 960 orders is Monday Dec 29, at 23:00 GMT.
And a note to everyone: since we started I have had to remind several players that their orders were overdue. I like to get the adjudications out as per the deadline. I don't mind adjudicating a few hours later to avoid an impact on gameplay, but at the same time I'd like to ask everyone to watch those deadlines more carefully.
Frank
Sell your car for just $40 at CarPoint.com.au It's simple! |
| DC 218 SHIFT LEFT: Spring 02 results - Fall 1902 d... - packrat (Dec 21, 2008, 9:36 pm) |
I am hoping Michael will continue on in this and will not be seeking a replacement
at this time. I am going to set the deadline for 12/26 at 2100 EST. I *know* this
is the day after Christmas so if that deadline does not work just let me know and I
can extend it.
There are no retreats needed so we move straight to fall. Any questions or errors
just let me know.
Austria:
A Munich - Kiel (*Bounce*)
A Piedmont - Tyrolia (*Bounce*)
F Portugal - Spain - (*void*) - NO COAST specified
England:
F Adriatic Sea - Apulia (*Fails*)
A Trieste - Venice (*Bounce*)
A Vienna - Tyrolia (*Bounce*)
France:
A Berlin - Kiel (*Bounce*)
F Black Sea - Rumania (*Bounce*)
F Sweden - Denmark
A Warsaw - Silesia (*Fails*)
Germany:
F Aegean Sea Supports F Adriatic Sea - Ionian Sea (*Void*)
A Bulgaria - Greece
A Smyrna - Constantinople
Italy:
F English Channel Convoys A Wales - Brest
F Mid-Atlantic Ocean - Portugal (*Fails*)
A Wales - Brest
Russia:
A Apulia - Venice (*Bounce*)
F Ionian Sea - Tyrrhenian Sea
A Serbia - Rumania (*Bounce*)
Turkey:
A Bohemia - Munich (*Fails*)
A Silesia Supports A Bohemia - Munich (*Cut*)[Reply] |
| DC 218 SHIFT LEFT: Spring 02 results - Fall 1902 due 12-26 at 2100 EST (dc218) stephen_worthy Dec 22, 02:29 pm |
| Hi Folks, I forgot to say the other day, apologies to anyone who sent me a message and didn't get a reply over the last week or so. I'm recovering my inbox from a spam attack, and messages got backed up and/or obscured by spam apparently sent by myself. I'm back in business now and should by responding to messages shortly!regards,Stephen ========================================Message Received: Dec 22 2008, 03:35 AMFrom: "Packrat" To: "Packrat" , "MICHAEL BOUTOT" , "The White Wolf" , jwmchughjr(at)gmail.com, "Stephen Worthy" , g_mod23(at)hotmail.com, matthew.kremer(at)yale.edu, scaponig(at)yahoo.comCc: "Former Trout" , dc218(at)diplomaticcorp.com, "Steve Lytton" , mike(at)southwall.com, stevelytton(at)hotmail.comSubject: DC 218 SHIFT LEFT: Spring 02 results - Fall 1902 due 12-26 at 2100 EST
I am hoping Michael will continue on in this and will not be seeking a replacementat this time. I am going to set the deadline for 12/26 at 2100 EST. I *know* this is the day after Christmas so if that deadline does not work just let me know and Ican extend it.There are no retreats needed so we move straight to fall. Any questions or errorsjust let me know.
Austria: A Munich - Kiel (*Bounce*)A Piedmont - Tyrolia (*Bounce*)F Portugal - Spain - (*void*) - NO COAST specifiedEngland: F Adriatic Sea - Apulia (*Fails*)A Trieste - Venice (*Bounce*)A Vienna - Tyrolia (*Bounce*)France: A Berlin - Kiel (*Bounce*)F Black Sea - Rumania (*Bounce*)F Sweden - DenmarkA Warsaw - Silesia (*Fails*)Germany: F Aegean Sea Supports F Adriatic Sea - Ionian Sea (*Void*)A Bulgaria - GreeceA Smyrna - ConstantinopleItaly: F English Channel Convoys A Wales - BrestF Mid-Atlantic Ocean - Portugal (*Fails*)A Wales - BrestRussia: A Apulia - Venice (*Bounce*)F Ionian Sea - Tyrrhenian SeaA Serbia - Rumania (*Bounce*)Turkey: A Bohemia - Munich (*Fails*)A Silesia Supports A Bohemia - Munich (*Cut*)[ 218-sp02.GIF (30.9 Kb) ][ 218-sp02.dpy (4.8 Kb) ] |
| DC 220 Autumn 1902 Retreat - Verticallychallangedcutie (Dec 21, 2008, 7:33 pm) |
Folks,
This is a nice short adjudication. Map and Dpy file are attached. Here is Germany's retreat.
A Belgium - Ruhr
Deadline:
Winter deadline is set for Dec 23rd at 7pm EST ( 11pm GMT ).
-Rachael[Reply] |
| Acrimony / dc206 - End Game Statement Russia! - deathblade_penguin (Dec 21, 2008, 6:33 pm) |
End of game Statement: Russia
First of all a big thankyou to John. Once of the first games he has GM'd on our site and I think he did
a fantastic job - consistent deadlines, good communication... good work John - I hope you run another.
Secondly, I have to think my allies Germany and Austria. Thanks Sam and Greg - 2 very good players who let me stab them at the right time.
This game was all about communication for me. In the beginning stages of the game, Austria (Greg) was a much better communicator with me that Turkey (Jyri). It made sense for me to work with Austria, attack and eliminate Turkey. Italy was initially onboard with this plan and sorry to Jyri but the writing was on the wall from the beginning.
In the north, I made peace with both Germany and England and was nicely sitting on the fence being very neutral.
Turkey eventually collasped and Greg/Austria stabbed Italy moving west and I thought about who i would work with in the north. In the end the decision was easy. Sam was an excellent communicator, and we traded many emails whilst Andy (NOTE to Andy - second game with you both times i've found poor communication) seemed to not wish to communicate. France had abandonded the game so I allied with germany, stabbed england in norway and the plan was for me to move on england whilst Sam mopped up in France. I kept trying to sow seeds of doubt between Austria and Germany but they were very focussed on their own problems and just would not move on each other. During this time, I kept promising to return RUMunia to my Austrian ally having snagged all of Turkey's SC but i deloberately kept my orders going so that I was holding onto Rumunia. Eventually Greg had to concentrate on Italy and could not afford the extra unit to come back and take it off me. This allowed me to stab Austria when i wanted too...
In the last stages, it was my own paranoia that eventually brought me the win. Sam and I had split the english and french SC very fairly but I just kept thinking that Sam was going to stab me, so I moved my fleet to Denmark to prevent him looping around behind me. Honestly at this point, I was willing to keep working with Sam but Sam took the move to denmark very personally and stopped all contact with me. It made it easier to then just attack him. Sorry Sam - you were an excellent ally. I then could see that with a few moves I could set up a 3 SC stab of Austria as long as I kept the Ionion sea. I immediately contacted Italy and Austria and negiotated moves with both them, so that I hoped they would not work together to steal the ION. They didn't. Sam had re-taken Munich (which was lossed) but allowed me to position my units so I could steal Berlin. This effectively had the game for me - and i just needed to submit the moves. Even though Austria NMR'd on the last turn, there were no moves he could have made to stop me taking those 3 SC. Germany - could have retaking Berlin if he ordered moves to SlL with support but that would have still left me with 18.
Thanks for the game, everyone.
Steve
Stephen Lytton
Knight of the Rose
www.diplomaticcorp.com
Sell your car for just $40 at CarPoint.com.au It's simple![Reply] |
| DC190 - Winter 2007 - worldwidegm at gmail.com (Dec 21, 2008, 2:58 pm) |
I've got everyone's adjustments now... I think it would be a good idea for us to take a slight break over the holidays. I don't have access to my map right now, so you'll have to imagine the changes until I can get back to my computer.
North America:
Disband A Kansas
South America:
Build F Peru
Build F Argentina
Build F Rio de Janeiro
Russia:
Build F Murmansk (nc)
Build F Oslo
West Africa:
Disband F Columbia
Disband F Dakar
South Africa:
Build F Nairobi
Build A Congo
Persia:
Build A Ankara
Build F Pakistan
China:
Disband F Pacific Ocean
Disband F Sea of Japan
Disband A Oregon
Disband F Philippines Sea
Next Deadline: Spring 2008 TBA[Reply] |
| DC190 - Winter 2007 (dc190) worldwidegm at gmail.com Dec 29, 12:02 pm |
OK everyone... I'm still away from my regular game computer, but in the interests of getting the game back on I've reverted to the old Paint map just for this winter. So find the Winter 2007 map attached. I'm back at my regular computer on January 4, so let's make the Spring 2008 deadline to be Tuesday, January 6, 2200GMT.
On Sun, Dec 21, 2008 at 2:57 PM, Diplomacy Gamemaster <worldwidegm(at)gmail.com ([email]worldwidegm(at)gmail.com[/email])> wrote:
I've got everyone's adjustments now... I think it would be a good idea for us to take a slight break over the holidays. I don't have access to my map right now, so you'll have to imagine the changes until I can get back to my computer.
North America:
Disband A Kansas
South America:
Build F Peru
Build F Argentina
Build F Rio de Janeiro
Russia:
Build F Murmansk (nc)
Build F Oslo
West Africa:
Disband F Columbia
Disband F Dakar
South Africa:
Build F Nairobi
Build A Congo
Persia:
Build A Ankara
Build F Pakistan
China:
Disband F Pacific Ocean
Disband F Sea of Japan
Disband A Oregon
Disband F Philippines Sea
Next Deadline: Spring 2008 is due Jan 6, 2200GMT.
|
| DC 218 SHIFT LEFT:   Reiterate: I'm out of... - stephen_worthy (Dec 21, 2008, 1:20 pm) |
| Mike and I have had brief discussions about the rights and wrongs of our strategy, so I'm not going to get into details. But there are some pretty strong players in this game, and half of them are just as close to home as me. Regardless of that, I'd say you just have a more innovative approach to the variant than most. I treat the variant as a fun twist on the regular game, but still assess the best tactic for success to be running for home rather than staying put. Anyone's approach to a variant is valid and ultimately tested by results.regards,Stephen ========================================Message Received: Dec 21 2008, 01:35 PMFrom: "MICHAEL BOUTOT" To: "The White Wolf" , jwmchughjr(at)gmail.com, "Stephen Worthy" , g_mod23(at)hotmail.com, matthew.kremer(at)yale.edu, scaponig(at)yahoo.com, "Packrat" Cc: "Former Trout" , dc218(at)diplomaticcorp.com, "Steve Lytton" , mike(at)southwall.com, stevelytton(at)hotmail.comSubject: Re: DC 218 SHIFT LEFT: Reiterate: I'm out of this 1Worst played game imaginable & they still don't acknowledge it. Dead wrong: Stephen can not lose unless he tries to by continuing to negotiate when it is needless to do so just to pretend a game is going on. Have played & run dozens of these - interdict 1st or don't enter the game. Running home means you want to play Standard - plenty of that simple stuff available elsewhere. Sorry about your son but this game is hopeless. Both E's moves were fine (blocked Ven as R should have & the like) so no issue there.--- On Sat, 12/20/08, Packrat wrote:> From: Packrat > Subject: DC 218 SHIFT LEFT: I'm out of this 1> To: vegas_iwish(at)yahoo.com, "The White Wolf" , jwmchughjr(at)gmail.com, "Stephen Worthy" , g_mod23(at)hotmail.com, matthew.kremer(at)yale.edu, scaponig(at)yahoo.com> Cc: "Former Trout" , dc218(at)diplomaticcorp.com, "Steve Lytton" , mike(at)southwall.com, stevelytton(at)hotmail.com> Date: Saturday, December 20, 2008, 5:32 AM> A couple of things here folks - > Orders were due Friday and I will get to them at some point> today. We had 1/2" or more> of ice on EVERY thing and my son was almost killed by> falling branches. Sorry, but that> took priority.> > Michael - I am sorry you feel that way but how, exactly,> does your being a poor sport> and running for the hills help this game? You may see> this game as over, but I think it> is a far cry from that and I also believe you are wrong. > Unfortunately me being the GM> precludes me from commenting beyond that. There is a new> Enland on the board and> his first set of moves has yet to be seen by anyone but> me. Trust me, I have thrown > similar temper tantrums to yours (some worse) and this too> will pass. I would prefer > that you stayed in the game and played it to the end but I> am not going to beg you to.> I already think you are an ass as a GM, please do not give> me reason to think you > are as a player as well.> > ALL: I will adjudicate later today if I can, there are> family events going on from > 1-4 and 9-midnight so I will try and get it done between 4> and 11. I will run > this season with the orders Michael submitted already and> take it from there.> > Michael - if you still want out just let me know and I will> replace you. Otherwise> I will assume you were just blowing off steam and keep you> on board. [Reply] |
| Happy Christmas everybody!!! - Slangers (Dec 21, 2008, 10:17 am) |
Wishing you all a very happy Christmas. I would invite you all over to Moscow for a few vodkas, but sadly most of you cannot be trusted to leave afterwards...
Simon[Reply] |
| DC 218 SHIFT LEFT: Reiterate: I'm out of this 1 - packrat (Dec 21, 2008, 9:47 am) |
Of course, the other possibility is that he is just a better diplomat than you are
and they are listening to him rather than to you.
From: MICHAEL BOUTOT <vegas_iwish(at)yahoo.com>
To: The White Wolf <cloudhurler77(at)yahoo.com>; jwmchughjr(at)gmail.com; Stephen Worthy <stephen(at)worthy1.fsnet.co.uk>; g_mod23(at)hotmail.com; matthew.kremer(at)yale.edu; scaponig(at)yahoo.com; Packrat <brn2dip(at)yahoo.com>
Cc: Former Trout <former.trout(at)gmail.com>; dc218(at)diplomaticcorp.com; Steve Lytton <stevelytton(at)gmail.com>; mike(at)southwall.com; stevelytton(at)hotmail.com
Sent: Sunday, December 21, 2008 8:35:52 AM
Subject: Re: DC 218 SHIFT LEFT: Reiterate: I'm out of this 1
Worst played game imaginable & they still don't acknowledge it. Dead wrong: Stephen can not lose unless he tries to by continuing to negotiate when it is needless to do so just to pretend a game is going on. Have played & run dozens of these - interdict 1st or don't enter the game. Running home means you want to play Standard - plenty of that simple stuff available elsewhere. Sorry about your son but this game is hopeless. Both E's moves were fine (blocked Ven as R should have & the like) so no issue there.
--- On Sat, 12/20/08, Packrat <brn2dip(at)yahoo.com ([email]brn2dip(at)yahoo.com[/email])> wrote:
From: Packrat <brn2dip(at)yahoo.com ([email]brn2dip(at)yahoo.com[/email])>
Subject: DC 218 SHIFT LEFT: I'm out of this 1
To: vegas_iwish(at)yahoo.com ([email]vegas_iwish(at)yahoo.com[/email]), "The White Wolf" <cloudhurler77(at)yahoo.com ([email]cloudhurler77(at)yahoo.com[/email])>, jwmchughjr(at)gmail.com ([email]jwmchughjr(at)gmail.com[/email]), "Stephen Worthy" <stephen(at)worthy1.fsnet.co.uk ([email]stephen(at)worthy1.fsnet.co.uk[/email])>, g_mod23(at)hotmail.com ([email]g_mod23(at)hotmail.com[/email]), matthew.kremer(at)yale.edu ([email]matthew.kremer(at)yale.edu[/email]), scaponig(at)yahoo.com ([email]scaponig(at)yahoo.com[/email])
Cc: "Former Trout" <former.trout(at)gmail.com ([email]former.trout(at)gmail.com[/email])>, dc218(at)diplomaticcorp.com ([email]dc218(at)diplomaticcorp.com[/email]), "Steve Lytton" <stevelytton(at)gmail.com ([email]stevelytton(at)gmail.com[/email])>, mike(at)southwall.com ([email]mike(at)southwall.com[/email]), stevelytton(at)hotmail.com ([email]stevelytton(at)hotmail.com[/email])
Date: Saturday, December 20, 2008, 5:32 AM
A couple of things here folks -
Orders were due Friday and I will get to them at some point
today. We had 1/2" or more
of ice on EVERY thing and my son was almost killed by
falling branches. Sorry, but that
took priority.
Michael - I am sorry you feel that way but how, exactly,
does your being a poor sport
and running for the hills help this game? You may see
this game as over, but I think it
is a far cry from that and I also believe you are wrong.
Unfortunately me being the GM
precludes me from commenting beyond that. There is a new
Enland on the board and
his first set of moves has yet to be seen by anyone but
me. Trust me, I have thrown
similar temper tantrums to yours (some worse) and this too
will pass. I would prefer
that you stayed in the game and played it to the end but I
am not going to beg you to.
I already think you are an ass as a GM, please do not give
me reason to think you
are as a player as well.
ALL: I will adjudicate later today if I can, there are
family events going on from
1-4 and 9-midnight so I will try and get it done between 4
and 11. I will run
this season with the orders Michael submitted already and
take it from there.
Michael - if you still want out just let me know and I will
replace you. Otherwise
I will assume you were just blowing off steam and keep you
on board.
[Reply] |
| DC 218 SHIFT LEFT: Reiterate: I'm out of this 1 - packrat (Dec 21, 2008, 8:15 am) |
I can't say much as the GM, but I don't see you making any effort
to stop him.
From: MICHAEL BOUTOT <vegas_iwish(at)yahoo.com>
To: The White Wolf <cloudhurler77(at)yahoo.com>; jwmchughjr(at)gmail.com; Stephen Worthy <stephen(at)worthy1.fsnet.co.uk>; g_mod23(at)hotmail.com; matthew.kremer(at)yale.edu; scaponig(at)yahoo.com; Packrat <brn2dip(at)yahoo.com>
Cc: Former Trout <former.trout(at)gmail.com>; dc218(at)diplomaticcorp.com; Steve Lytton <stevelytton(at)gmail.com>; mike(at)southwall.com; stevelytton(at)hotmail.com
Sent: Sunday, December 21, 2008 8:35:52 AM
Subject: Re: DC 218 SHIFT LEFT: Reiterate: I'm out of this 1
Worst played game imaginable & they still don't acknowledge it. Dead wrong: Stephen can not lose unless he tries to by continuing to negotiate when it is needless to do so just to pretend a game is going on. Have played & run dozens of these - interdict 1st or don't enter the game. Running home means you want to play Standard - plenty of that simple stuff available elsewhere. Sorry about your son but this game is hopeless. Both E's moves were fine (blocked Ven as R should have & the like) so no issue there.[Reply] |
| Starting Out - xPhile (Dec 21, 2008, 7:54 am) |
Greets All
I have been pbem dipping for a couple years now (I don't count my one FtF game in the early '80s in my dipping experience) and have only played using the Kevin Lowe judges in games from the Diplomatic Pouch's queuing system (and a couple from the Diplamcy Direct grp.)
From what I gather, dc games are adjucated by an GM as opposed to a judge. So, my main question - how is communication handled? Just through email?
I could't find a FAQ about dc iteslf and how games are run, so if there is such a page I would appreciate direction to it.
I have been using jDip as my 'scenario generator' but always felt it lacking when it came to variant support (though kudos to its developers - I love the gui.) I will download RealPolitik and I am looking forward to trying a variant or two (suggestions or opinions on the most popular ones gratefully accepted.)
I have three games on the go and won't likely join any dc games until the two older finish up (the other is just out of the blocks.)
Cheers and happy holiday!
Tom[Reply] |
| DC 218 SHIFT LEFT: Reiterate: I'm out of this 1 - vegas_iwish (Dec 21, 2008, 7:36 am) |
Worst played game imaginable & they still don't acknowledge it. Dead wrong: Stephen can not lose unless he tries to by continuing to negotiate when it is needless to do so just to pretend a game is going on. Have played & run dozens of these - interdict 1st or don't enter the game. Running home means you want to play Standard - plenty of that simple stuff available elsewhere. Sorry about your son but this game is hopeless. Both E's moves were fine (blocked Ven as R should have & the like) so no issue there.
--- On Sat, 12/20/08, Packrat <brn2dip(at)yahoo.com> wrote:
From: Packrat <brn2dip(at)yahoo.com>
Subject: DC 218 SHIFT LEFT: I'm out of this 1
To: vegas_iwish(at)yahoo.com, "The White Wolf" <cloudhurler77(at)yahoo.com>, jwmchughjr(at)gmail.com, "Stephen Worthy" <stephen(at)worthy1.fsnet.co.uk>, g_mod23(at)hotmail.com, matthew.kremer(at)yale.edu, scaponig(at)yahoo.com
Cc: "Former Trout" <former.trout(at)gmail.com>, dc218(at)diplomaticcorp.com, "Steve Lytton" <stevelytton(at)gmail.com>, mike(at)southwall.com, stevelytton(at)hotmail.com
Date: Saturday, December 20, 2008, 5:32 AM
A couple of things here folks -
Orders were due Friday and I will get to them at some point
today. We had 1/2" or more
of ice on EVERY thing and my son was almost killed by
falling branches. Sorry, but that
took priority.
Michael - I am sorry you feel that way but how, exactly,
does your being a poor sport
and running for the hills help this game? You may see
this game as over, but I think it
is a far cry from that and I also believe you are wrong.
Unfortunately me being the GM
precludes me from commenting beyond that. There is a new
Enland on the board and
his first set of moves has yet to be seen by anyone but
me. Trust me, I have thrown
similar temper tantrums to yours (some worse) and this too
will pass. I would prefer
that you stayed in the game and played it to the end but I
am not going to beg you to.
I already think you are an ass as a GM, please do not give
me reason to think you
are as a player as well.
ALL: I will adjudicate later today if I can, there are
family events going on from
1-4 and 9-midnight so I will try and get it done between 4
and 11. I will run
this season with the orders Michael submitted already and
take it from there.
Michael - if you still want out just let me know and I will
replace you. Otherwise
I will assume you were just blowing off steam and keep you
on board.
[Reply] |
| DC 218 SHIFT LEFT: Reiterate: I'm out of this 1 (dc218) packrat Dec 21, 08:15 am |
I can't say much as the GM, but I don't see you making any effort
to stop him.
From: MICHAEL BOUTOT <vegas_iwish(at)yahoo.com>
To: The White Wolf <cloudhurler77(at)yahoo.com>; jwmchughjr(at)gmail.com; Stephen Worthy <stephen(at)worthy1.fsnet.co.uk>; g_mod23(at)hotmail.com; matthew.kremer(at)yale.edu; scaponig(at)yahoo.com; Packrat <brn2dip(at)yahoo.com>
Cc: Former Trout <former.trout(at)gmail.com>; dc218(at)diplomaticcorp.com; Steve Lytton <stevelytton(at)gmail.com>; mike(at)southwall.com; stevelytton(at)hotmail.com
Sent: Sunday, December 21, 2008 8:35:52 AM
Subject: Re: DC 218 SHIFT LEFT: Reiterate: I'm out of this 1
Worst played game imaginable & they still don't acknowledge it. Dead wrong: Stephen can not lose unless he tries to by continuing to negotiate when it is needless to do so just to pretend a game is going on. Have played & run dozens of these - interdict 1st or don't enter the game. Running home means you want to play Standard - plenty of that simple stuff available elsewhere. Sorry about your son but this game is hopeless. Both E's moves were fine (blocked Ven as R should have & the like) so no issue there. |
| DC 218 SHIFT LEFT: Reiterate: I'm out of this 1 (dc218) packrat Dec 21, 09:47 am |
Of course, the other possibility is that he is just a better diplomat than you are
and they are listening to him rather than to you.
From: MICHAEL BOUTOT <vegas_iwish(at)yahoo.com>
To: The White Wolf <cloudhurler77(at)yahoo.com>; jwmchughjr(at)gmail.com; Stephen Worthy <stephen(at)worthy1.fsnet.co.uk>; g_mod23(at)hotmail.com; matthew.kremer(at)yale.edu; scaponig(at)yahoo.com; Packrat <brn2dip(at)yahoo.com>
Cc: Former Trout <former.trout(at)gmail.com>; dc218(at)diplomaticcorp.com; Steve Lytton <stevelytton(at)gmail.com>; mike(at)southwall.com; stevelytton(at)hotmail.com
Sent: Sunday, December 21, 2008 8:35:52 AM
Subject: Re: DC 218 SHIFT LEFT: Reiterate: I'm out of this 1
Worst played game imaginable & they still don't acknowledge it. Dead wrong: Stephen can not lose unless he tries to by continuing to negotiate when it is needless to do so just to pretend a game is going on. Have played & run dozens of these - interdict 1st or don't enter the game. Running home means you want to play Standard - plenty of that simple stuff available elsewhere. Sorry about your son but this game is hopeless. Both E's moves were fine (blocked Ven as R should have & the like) so no issue there.
--- On Sat, 12/20/08, Packrat <brn2dip(at)yahoo.com ([email]brn2dip(at)yahoo.com[/email])> wrote:
From: Packrat <brn2dip(at)yahoo.com ([email]brn2dip(at)yahoo.com[/email])>
Subject: DC 218 SHIFT LEFT: I'm out of this 1
To: vegas_iwish(at)yahoo.com ([email]vegas_iwish(at)yahoo.com[/email]), "The White Wolf" <cloudhurler77(at)yahoo.com ([email]cloudhurler77(at)yahoo.com[/email])>, jwmchughjr(at)gmail.com ([email]jwmchughjr(at)gmail.com[/email]), "Stephen Worthy" <stephen(at)worthy1.fsnet.co.uk ([email]stephen(at)worthy1.fsnet.co.uk[/email])>, g_mod23(at)hotmail.com ([email]g_mod23(at)hotmail.com[/email]), matthew.kremer(at)yale.edu ([email]matthew.kremer(at)yale.edu[/email]), scaponig(at)yahoo.com ([email]scaponig(at)yahoo.com[/email])
Cc: "Former Trout" <former.trout(at)gmail.com ([email]former.trout(at)gmail.com[/email])>, dc218(at)diplomaticcorp.com ([email]dc218(at)diplomaticcorp.com[/email]), "Steve Lytton" <stevelytton(at)gmail.com ([email]stevelytton(at)gmail.com[/email])>, mike(at)southwall.com ([email]mike(at)southwall.com[/email]), stevelytton(at)hotmail.com ([email]stevelytton(at)hotmail.com[/email])
Date: Saturday, December 20, 2008, 5:32 AM
A couple of things here folks -
Orders were due Friday and I will get to them at some point
today. We had 1/2" or more
of ice on EVERY thing and my son was almost killed by
falling branches. Sorry, but that
took priority.
Michael - I am sorry you feel that way but how, exactly,
does your being a poor sport
and running for the hills help this game? You may see
this game as over, but I think it
is a far cry from that and I also believe you are wrong.
Unfortunately me being the GM
precludes me from commenting beyond that. There is a new
Enland on the board and
his first set of moves has yet to be seen by anyone but
me. Trust me, I have thrown
similar temper tantrums to yours (some worse) and this too
will pass. I would prefer
that you stayed in the game and played it to the end but I
am not going to beg you to.
I already think you are an ass as a GM, please do not give
me reason to think you
are as a player as well.
ALL: I will adjudicate later today if I can, there are
family events going on from
1-4 and 9-midnight so I will try and get it done between 4
and 11. I will run
this season with the orders Michael submitted already and
take it from there.
Michael - if you still want out just let me know and I will
replace you. Otherwise
I will assume you were just blowing off steam and keep you
on board.
|
| DC215 Winter 1904 Results - MattTheLesser (Dec 21, 2008, 3:38 am) |
We'll take a break for Christmas and set the next deadline for a week
from Monday, December 29, at 9 pm eastern. Let me know if anyone has
holiday plans that conflict with this.
Matt
Adjustments:
England:
Remove F Clyde
Germany:
Build A Berlin
Italy:
Build A Venice
Turkey:
Build A Smyrna[Reply] |
| DC215 Winter 1904 Results (dc215) Kenshi777 Dec 27, 02:37 pm |
Fellow DC 215 players and GM -
I apologize for any delayed replies to email lately, I am backlogged by about a hundred messages. As some of you may know, I'm currently transitioning from active duty US Army to the Reserves, and moving from my current station in Germany to our new home in Dallas, Texas. I may lose internet access intermittently during that time, depending upon availability of places I can log on. My service at home ends tomorrow, and I will be moving out within the week. I do not need to do so yet, but I may need to ask for a deadline extension until I get settled in Texas, which should be second week of January or so. Thanks for your patience -
Trout - this may also affect my ability to start the January DC tournament and the dwprep demo game on time, but I will do all I can to avoid that. You'll notice that means I'm playing in 3 DC games and 0 ACD ones at the moment - looks like you might make a convert out of me yet 
B. of Italia
On Sun, Dec 21, 2008 at 10:37 AM, Matt Kremer <matthew.kremer(at)yale.edu ([email]matthew.kremer(at)yale.edu[/email])> wrote:
We'll take a break for Christmas and set the next deadline for a week from Monday, December 29, at 9 pm eastern. Let me know if anyone has holiday plans that conflict with this.
Matt
Adjustments:
England:
Remove F Clyde
Germany:
Build A Berlin
Italy:
Build A Venice
Turkey:
Build A Smyrna
--
www.geocities.com/nairenvorbeck/files
Realpolitik files available here for the Sengoku, Balkans1860, South American Supremacy, and DarkAges Diplomacy Variants |
| DC 212 Potential Replacement Player Found - former.trout (Dec 20, 2008, 9:38 pm) |
I was only joking. Although there was that dwarf-tossing incident along the Ross Ice Shelf...
On Sat, Dec 20, 2008 at 8:29 PM, Rachael Jameson <verticallychallangedcutie(at)yahoo.com ([email]verticallychallangedcutie(at)yahoo.com[/email])> wrote:
Trout,
You are too funny! If Andy ever goes to Guatemala he will definitely be bringing me!!
And for the record Trout and Andy have never met, Trout was only joking!
-Rachael
--- On Sat, 12/20/08, Former Trout <former.trout(at)gmail.com ([email]former.trout(at)gmail.com[/email])> wrote:
[quote:cd90e7f487]From: Former Trout <former.trout(at)gmail.com ([email]former.trout(at)gmail.com[/email])>
Subject: Re: DC 212 Potential Replacement Player Found
To: verticallychallangedcutie(at)yahoo.com ([email]verticallychallangedcutie(at)yahoo.com[/email])
Cc: "DC 212 Forum" <dc212(at)diplomaticcorp.com ([email]dc212(at)diplomaticcorp.com[/email])>, "Jon Stern DC 212 Austria" <jstern78(at)gmail.com ([email]jstern78(at)gmail.com[/email])>, "Greg Neilsen DC 212 England" <yeeha77(at)yahoo.com ([email]yeeha77(at)yahoo.com[/email])>, "Patrick Canning DC 212 France" <patrick.t.canning(at)gmail.com ([email]patrick.t.canning(at)gmail.com[/email])>, "Jimmy Ghostine DC 212 Italy" <Jimmy.Ghostine(at)vtmednet.org ([email]Jimmy.Ghostine(at)vtmednet.org[/email])>, "David Ellsworth DC 212 Russia" <davidellsworth(at)sbcglobal.net ([email]davidellsworth(at)sbcglobal.net[/email])>, "Andrew Ott DC 212 Turkey" <drew3739o(at)yahoo.com ([email]drew3739o(at)yahoo.com[/email])>, "Stephen Lytton" <stevelytton(at)hotmail.com ([email]stevelytton(at)hotmail.com[/email])>
Date: Saturday, December 20, 2008, 10:24 PM
And because of that bar-fight we got into in Guatemala where he watched my back. Those girls were tough for teenagers...
On Sat, Dec 20, 2008 at 8:21 PM, Rachael Jameson <verticallychallangedcutie(at)yahoo.com ([email]verticallychallangedcutie(at)yahoo.com[/email])> wrote:
[quote:cd90e7f487] Jon,
I don't want it to sound like I am being rude but playing on the site you are going to run into people you have played with before. Such is the case with my husband and Trout. Trout lives in Canada, we live in the United States. We have never met him. I have GM'd for Trout, played in a game with Trout and he is currently my GM in two other games. Trout can vouch for Andy only because Trout knows he is a reliable player who does not NMR, always submits prelims and always communicates.
-Rachael
--- On Sat, 12/20/08, Former Trout <former.trout(at)gmail.com ([email]former.trout(at)gmail.com[/email])> wrote:
[quote:cd90e7f487] From: Former Trout <former.trout(at)gmail.com ([email]former.trout(at)gmail.com[/email])>
Subject: Re: DC 212 Potential Replacement Player Found
To: verticallychallangedcutie(at)yahoo.com ([email]verticallychallangedcutie(at)yahoo.com[/email])
Cc: "DC 212 Forum" <dc212(at)diplomaticcorp.com ([email]dc212(at)diplomaticcorp.com[/email])>, "Jon Stern DC 212 Austria" <jstern78(at)gmail.com ([email]jstern78(at)gmail.com[/email])>, "Greg Neilsen DC 212 England" <yeeha77(at)yahoo.com ([email]yeeha77(at)yahoo.com[/email])>, "Patrick Canning DC 212 France" <patrick.t.canning(at)gmail.com ([email]patrick.t.canning(at)gmail.com[/email])>, "Jimmy Ghostine DC 212 Italy" <Jimmy.Ghostine(at)vtmednet.org ([email]Jimmy.Ghostine(at)vtmednet.org[/email])>, "David Ellsworth DC 212 Russia" <davidellsworth(at)sbcglobal.net ([email]davidellsworth(at)sbcglobal.net[/email])>, "Andrew Ott DC 212 Turkey" <drew3739o(at)yahoo.com ([email]drew3739o(at)yahoo.com[/email])>, "Stephen Lytton" <stevelytton(at)hotmail.com ([email]stevelytton(at)hotmail.com[/email])>
Date: Saturday, December 20, 2008, 9:46 PM
I'd be okay with Andy taking the position, Rachael. And I can vouch for his integrity if anyone has any qualms about it.
Of course - people might have qualms about my integrity - so I don't know how far that would go.. =P
T.
On Sat, Dec 20, 2008 at 7:33 PM, Rachael Jameson <verticallychallangedcutie(at)yahoo.com ([email]verticallychallangedcutie(at)yahoo.com[/email])> wrote:
[quote:cd90e7f487] Folks,
A fellow player of yours has suggested that my husband take the Russian position. I have asked my husband and he has conditionally accepted. He wants to make sure that everyone in the game is okay with it first. I do want to put it out there that my husband does NOT watch any game I am GMing. As a matter of fact my husband is usually not home when I input orders or do the adjudications. I need a yes vote from all of you before I add him to the game. If one person says no then he will not play and we continue to wait for another player. I need all your votes in by Monday Dec 22nd at 7pm EST. I would like to run one more turn before Christmas and before we take a little break.
-Rachael
[/quote:cd90e7f487]
[/quote:cd90e7f487]
[/quote:cd90e7f487]
[/quote:cd90e7f487][Reply] |
| DC 212 Potential Replacement Player Found - Verticallychallangedcutie (Dec 20, 2008, 9:30 pm) |
Trout,
You are too funny! If Andy ever goes to Guatemala he will definitely be bringing me!!
And for the record Trout and Andy have never met, Trout was only joking!
-Rachael
--- On Sat, 12/20/08, Former Trout <former.trout(at)gmail.com> wrote:
From: Former Trout <former.trout(at)gmail.com>
Subject: Re: DC 212 Potential Replacement Player Found
To: verticallychallangedcutie(at)yahoo.com
Cc: "DC 212 Forum" <dc212(at)diplomaticcorp.com>, "Jon Stern DC 212 Austria" <jstern78(at)gmail.com>, "Greg Neilsen DC 212 England" <yeeha77(at)yahoo.com>, "Patrick Canning DC 212 France" <patrick.t.canning(at)gmail.com>, "Jimmy Ghostine DC 212 Italy" <Jimmy.Ghostine(at)vtmednet.org>, "David Ellsworth DC 212 Russia" <davidellsworth(at)sbcglobal.net>, "Andrew Ott DC 212 Turkey" <drew3739o(at)yahoo.com>, "Stephen Lytton" <stevelytton(at)hotmail.com>
Date: Saturday, December 20, 2008, 10:24 PM
And because of that bar-fight we got into in Guatemala where he watched my back. Those girls were tough for teenagers...
On Sat, Dec 20, 2008 at 8:21 PM, Rachael Jameson <verticallychallangedcutie(at)yahoo.com ([email]verticallychallangedcutie(at)yahoo.com[/email])> wrote:
[quote:02d86fa3ab]Jon,
I don't want it to sound like I am being rude but playing on the site you are going to run into people you have played with before. Such is the case with my husband and Trout. Trout lives in Canada, we live in the United States. We have never met him. I have GM'd for Trout, played in a game with Trout and he is currently my GM in two other games. Trout can vouch for Andy only because Trout knows he is a reliable player who does not NMR, always submits prelims and always communicates.
-Rachael
--- On Sat, 12/20/08, Former Trout <former.trout(at)gmail.com ([email]former.trout(at)gmail.com[/email])> wrote:
[quote:02d86fa3ab] From: Former Trout <former.trout(at)gmail.com ([email]former.trout(at)gmail.com[/email])>
Subject: Re: DC 212 Potential Replacement Player Found
To: verticallychallangedcutie(at)yahoo.com ([email]verticallychallangedcutie(at)yahoo.com[/email])
Cc: "DC 212 Forum" <dc212(at)diplomaticcorp.com ([email]dc212(at)diplomaticcorp.com[/email])>, "Jon Stern DC 212 Austria" <jstern78(at)gmail.com ([email]jstern78(at)gmail.com[/email])>, "Greg Neilsen DC 212 England" <yeeha77(at)yahoo.com ([email]yeeha77(at)yahoo.com[/email])>, "Patrick Canning DC 212 France" <patrick.t.canning(at)gmail.com ([email]patrick.t.canning(at)gmail.com[/email])>, "Jimmy Ghostine DC 212 Italy" <Jimmy.Ghostine(at)vtmednet.org ([email]Jimmy.Ghostine(at)vtmednet.org[/email])>, "David Ellsworth DC 212 Russia" <davidellsworth(at)sbcglobal.net ([email]davidellsworth(at)sbcglobal.net[/email])>, "Andrew Ott DC 212 Turkey" <drew3739o(at)yahoo.com ([email]drew3739o(at)yahoo.com[/email])>, "Stephen Lytton" <stevelytton(at)hotmail.com ([email]stevelytton(at)hotmail.com[/email])>
Date: Saturday, December 20, 2008, 9:46 PM
I'd be okay with Andy taking the position, Rachael. And I can vouch for his integrity if anyone has any qualms about it.
Of course - people might have qualms about my integrity - so I don't know how far that would go.. =P
T.
On Sat, Dec 20, 2008 at 7:33 PM, Rachael Jameson <verticallychallangedcutie(at)yahoo.com ([email]verticallychallangedcutie(at)yahoo.com[/email])> wrote:
[quote:02d86fa3ab] Folks,
A fellow player of yours has suggested that my husband take the Russian position. I have asked my husband and he has conditionally accepted. He wants to make sure that everyone in the game is okay with it first. I do want to put it out there that my husband does NOT watch any game I am GMing. As a matter of fact my husband is usually not home when I input orders or do the adjudications. I need a yes vote from all of you before I add him to the game. If one person says no then he will not play and we continue to wait for another player. I need all your votes in by Monday Dec 22nd at 7pm EST. I would like to run one more turn before Christmas and before we take a little break.
-Rachael
[/quote:02d86fa3ab]
[/quote:02d86fa3ab]
[/quote:02d86fa3ab][Reply] |
| DC 212 Potential Replacement Player Found - former.trout (Dec 20, 2008, 9:25 pm) |
And because of that bar-fight we got into in Guatemala where he watched my back. Those girls were tough for teenagers...
On Sat, Dec 20, 2008 at 8:21 PM, Rachael Jameson <verticallychallangedcutie(at)yahoo.com ([email]verticallychallangedcutie(at)yahoo.com[/email])> wrote:
Jon,
I don't want it to sound like I am being rude but playing on the site you are going to run into people you have played with before. Such is the case with my husband and Trout. Trout lives in Canada, we live in the United States. We have never met him. I have GM'd for Trout, played in a game with Trout and he is currently my GM in two other games. Trout can vouch for Andy only because Trout knows he is a reliable player who does not NMR, always submits prelims and always communicates.
-Rachael
--- On Sat, 12/20/08, Former Trout <former.trout(at)gmail.com ([email]former.trout(at)gmail.com[/email])> wrote:
[quote:e8b32b89d4] From: Former Trout <former.trout(at)gmail.com ([email]former.trout(at)gmail.com[/email])>
Subject: Re: DC 212 Potential Replacement Player Found
To: verticallychallangedcutie(at)yahoo.com ([email]verticallychallangedcutie(at)yahoo.com[/email])
Cc: "DC 212 Forum" <dc212(at)diplomaticcorp.com ([email]dc212(at)diplomaticcorp.com[/email])>, "Jon Stern DC 212 Austria" <jstern78(at)gmail.com ([email]jstern78(at)gmail.com[/email])>, "Greg Neilsen DC 212 England" <yeeha77(at)yahoo.com ([email]yeeha77(at)yahoo.com[/email])>, "Patrick Canning DC 212 France" <patrick.t.canning(at)gmail.com ([email]patrick.t.canning(at)gmail.com[/email])>, "Jimmy Ghostine DC 212 Italy" <Jimmy.Ghostine(at)vtmednet.org ([email]Jimmy.Ghostine(at)vtmednet.org[/email])>, "David Ellsworth DC 212 Russia" <davidellsworth(at)sbcglobal.net ([email]davidellsworth(at)sbcglobal.net[/email])>, "Andrew Ott DC 212 Turkey" <drew3739o(at)yahoo.com ([email]drew3739o(at)yahoo.com[/email])>, "Stephen Lytton" <stevelytton(at)hotmail.com ([email]stevelytton(at)hotmail.com[/email])>
Date: Saturday, December 20, 2008, 9:46 PM
I'd be okay with Andy taking the position, Rachael. And I can vouch for his integrity if anyone has any qualms about it.
Of course - people might have qualms about my integrity - so I don't know how far that would go.. =P
T.
On Sat, Dec 20, 2008 at 7:33 PM, Rachael Jameson <verticallychallangedcutie(at)yahoo.com ([email]verticallychallangedcutie(at)yahoo.com[/email])> wrote:
[quote:e8b32b89d4] Folks,
A fellow player of yours has suggested that my husband take the Russian position. I have asked my husband and he has conditionally accepted. He wants to make sure that everyone in the game is okay with it first. I do want to put it out there that my husband does NOT watch any game I am GMing. As a matter of fact my husband is usually not home when I input orders or do the adjudications. I need a yes vote from all of you before I add him to the game. If one person says no then he will not play and we continue to wait for another player. I need all your votes in by Monday Dec 22nd at 7pm EST. I would like to run one more turn before Christmas and before we take a little break.
-Rachael
[/quote:e8b32b89d4]
[/quote:e8b32b89d4][Reply] |
| DC 212 Potential Replacement Player Found - Verticallychallangedcutie (Dec 20, 2008, 9:22 pm) |
Jon,
I don't want it to sound like I am being rude but playing on the site you are going to run into people you have played with before. Such is the case with my husband and Trout. Trout lives in Canada, we live in the United States. We have never met him. I have GM'd for Trout, played in a game with Trout and he is currently my GM in two other games. Trout can vouch for Andy only because Trout knows he is a reliable player who does not NMR, always submits prelims and always communicates.
-Rachael
--- On Sat, 12/20/08, Former Trout <former.trout(at)gmail.com> wrote:
From: Former Trout <former.trout(at)gmail.com>
Subject: Re: DC 212 Potential Replacement Player Found
To: verticallychallangedcutie(at)yahoo.com
Cc: "DC 212 Forum" <dc212(at)diplomaticcorp.com>, "Jon Stern DC 212 Austria" <jstern78(at)gmail.com>, "Greg Neilsen DC 212 England" <yeeha77(at)yahoo.com>, "Patrick Canning DC 212 France" <patrick.t.canning(at)gmail.com>, "Jimmy Ghostine DC 212 Italy" <Jimmy.Ghostine(at)vtmednet.org>, "David Ellsworth DC 212 Russia" <davidellsworth(at)sbcglobal.net>, "Andrew Ott DC 212 Turkey" <drew3739o(at)yahoo.com>, "Stephen Lytton" <stevelytton(at)hotmail.com>
Date: Saturday, December 20, 2008, 9:46 PM
I'd be okay with Andy taking the position, Rachael. And I can vouch for his integrity if anyone has any qualms about it.
Of course - people might have qualms about my integrity - so I don't know how far that would go.. =P
T.
On Sat, Dec 20, 2008 at 7:33 PM, Rachael Jameson <verticallychallangedcutie(at)yahoo.com ([email]verticallychallangedcutie(at)yahoo.com[/email])> wrote:
[quote:a651f29b8e]Folks,
A fellow player of yours has suggested that my husband take the Russian position. I have asked my husband and he has conditionally accepted. He wants to make sure that everyone in the game is okay with it first. I do want to put it out there that my husband does NOT watch any game I am GMing. As a matter of fact my husband is usually not home when I input orders or do the adjudications. I need a yes vote from all of you before I add him to the game. If one person says no then he will not play and we continue to wait for another player. I need all your votes in by Monday Dec 22nd at 7pm EST. I would like to run one more turn before Christmas and before we take a little break.
-Rachael
[/quote:a651f29b8e][Reply] |
| DC 212 Potential Replacement Player Found - former.trout (Dec 20, 2008, 8:46 pm) |
I'd be okay with Andy taking the position, Rachael. And I can vouch for his integrity if anyone has any qualms about it.
Of course - people might have qualms about my integrity - so I don't know how far that would go.. =P
T.
On Sat, Dec 20, 2008 at 7:33 PM, Rachael Jameson <verticallychallangedcutie(at)yahoo.com ([email]verticallychallangedcutie(at)yahoo.com[/email])> wrote:
Folks,
A fellow player of yours has suggested that my husband take the Russian position. I have asked my husband and he has conditionally accepted. He wants to make sure that everyone in the game is okay with it first. I do want to put it out there that my husband does NOT watch any game I am GMing. As a matter of fact my husband is usually not home when I input orders or do the adjudications. I need a yes vote from all of you before I add him to the game. If one person says no then he will not play and we continue to wait for another player. I need all your votes in by Monday Dec 22nd at 7pm EST. I would like to run one more turn before Christmas and before we take a little break.
-Rachael
[Reply] |
| DC 212 Potential Replacement Player Found - Verticallychallangedcutie (Dec 20, 2008, 8:33 pm) |
Folks,
A fellow player of yours has suggested that my husband take the Russian position. I have asked my husband and he has conditionally accepted. He wants to make sure that everyone in the game is okay with it first. I do want to put it out there that my husband does NOT watch any game I am GMing. As a matter of fact my husband is usually not home when I input orders or do the adjudications. I need a yes vote from all of you before I add him to the game. If one person says no then he will not play and we continue to wait for another player. I need all your votes in by Monday Dec 22nd at 7pm EST. I would like to run one more turn before Christmas and before we take a little break.
-Rachael[Reply] |
| DC 212 Potential Replacement Player Found (dc212) former.trout Dec 20, 08:46 pm |
I'd be okay with Andy taking the position, Rachael. And I can vouch for his integrity if anyone has any qualms about it.
Of course - people might have qualms about my integrity - so I don't know how far that would go.. =P
T.
On Sat, Dec 20, 2008 at 7:33 PM, Rachael Jameson <verticallychallangedcutie(at)yahoo.com ([email]verticallychallangedcutie(at)yahoo.com[/email])> wrote:
Folks,
A fellow player of yours has suggested that my husband take the Russian position. I have asked my husband and he has conditionally accepted. He wants to make sure that everyone in the game is okay with it first. I do want to put it out there that my husband does NOT watch any game I am GMing. As a matter of fact my husband is usually not home when I input orders or do the adjudications. I need a yes vote from all of you before I add him to the game. If one person says no then he will not play and we continue to wait for another player. I need all your votes in by Monday Dec 22nd at 7pm EST. I would like to run one more turn before Christmas and before we take a little break.
-Rachael
|
| DC 212 Potential Replacement Player Found (dc212) Verticallychallangedcutie Dec 20, 09:22 pm |
Jon,
I don't want it to sound like I am being rude but playing on the site you are going to run into people you have played with before. Such is the case with my husband and Trout. Trout lives in Canada, we live in the United States. We have never met him. I have GM'd for Trout, played in a game with Trout and he is currently my GM in two other games. Trout can vouch for Andy only because Trout knows he is a reliable player who does not NMR, always submits prelims and always communicates.
-Rachael
--- On Sat, 12/20/08, Former Trout <former.trout(at)gmail.com> wrote:
From: Former Trout <former.trout(at)gmail.com>
Subject: Re: DC 212 Potential Replacement Player Found
To: verticallychallangedcutie(at)yahoo.com
Cc: "DC 212 Forum" <dc212(at)diplomaticcorp.com>, "Jon Stern DC 212 Austria" <jstern78(at)gmail.com>, "Greg Neilsen DC 212 England" <yeeha77(at)yahoo.com>, "Patrick Canning DC 212 France" <patrick.t.canning(at)gmail.com>, "Jimmy Ghostine DC 212 Italy" <Jimmy.Ghostine(at)vtmednet.org>, "David Ellsworth DC 212 Russia" <davidellsworth(at)sbcglobal.net>, "Andrew Ott DC 212 Turkey" <drew3739o(at)yahoo.com>, "Stephen Lytton" <stevelytton(at)hotmail.com>
Date: Saturday, December 20, 2008, 9:46 PM
I'd be okay with Andy taking the position, Rachael. And I can vouch for his integrity if anyone has any qualms about it.
Of course - people might have qualms about my integrity - so I don't know how far that would go.. =P
T.
On Sat, Dec 20, 2008 at 7:33 PM, Rachael Jameson <verticallychallangedcutie(at)yahoo.com ([email]verticallychallangedcutie(at)yahoo.com[/email])> wrote:
[quote:a651f29b8e]Folks,
A fellow player of yours has suggested that my husband take the Russian position. I have asked my husband and he has conditionally accepted. He wants to make sure that everyone in the game is okay with it first. I do want to put it out there that my husband does NOT watch any game I am GMing. As a matter of fact my husband is usually not home when I input orders or do the adjudications. I need a yes vote from all of you before I add him to the game. If one person says no then he will not play and we continue to wait for another player. I need all your votes in by Monday Dec 22nd at 7pm EST. I would like to run one more turn before Christmas and before we take a little break.
-Rachael
[/quote:a651f29b8e] |
| DC 212 Potential Replacement Player Found (dc212) former.trout Dec 20, 09:25 pm |
And because of that bar-fight we got into in Guatemala where he watched my back. Those girls were tough for teenagers...
On Sat, Dec 20, 2008 at 8:21 PM, Rachael Jameson <verticallychallangedcutie(at)yahoo.com ([email]verticallychallangedcutie(at)yahoo.com[/email])> wrote:
Jon,
I don't want it to sound like I am being rude but playing on the site you are going to run into people you have played with before. Such is the case with my husband and Trout. Trout lives in Canada, we live in the United States. We have never met him. I have GM'd for Trout, played in a game with Trout and he is currently my GM in two other games. Trout can vouch for Andy only because Trout knows he is a reliable player who does not NMR, always submits prelims and always communicates.
-Rachael
--- On Sat, 12/20/08, Former Trout <former.trout(at)gmail.com ([email]former.trout(at)gmail.com[/email])> wrote:
[quote:e8b32b89d4] From: Former Trout <former.trout(at)gmail.com ([email]former.trout(at)gmail.com[/email])>
Subject: Re: DC 212 Potential Replacement Player Found
To: verticallychallangedcutie(at)yahoo.com ([email]verticallychallangedcutie(at)yahoo.com[/email])
Cc: "DC 212 Forum" <dc212(at)diplomaticcorp.com ([email]dc212(at)diplomaticcorp.com[/email])>, "Jon Stern DC 212 Austria" <jstern78(at)gmail.com ([email]jstern78(at)gmail.com[/email])>, "Greg Neilsen DC 212 England" <yeeha77(at)yahoo.com ([email]yeeha77(at)yahoo.com[/email])>, "Patrick Canning DC 212 France" <patrick.t.canning(at)gmail.com ([email]patrick.t.canning(at)gmail.com[/email])>, "Jimmy Ghostine DC 212 Italy" <Jimmy.Ghostine(at)vtmednet.org ([email]Jimmy.Ghostine(at)vtmednet.org[/email])>, "David Ellsworth DC 212 Russia" <davidellsworth(at)sbcglobal.net ([email]davidellsworth(at)sbcglobal.net[/email])>, "Andrew Ott DC 212 Turkey" <drew3739o(at)yahoo.com ([email]drew3739o(at)yahoo.com[/email])>, "Stephen Lytton" <stevelytton(at)hotmail.com ([email]stevelytton(at)hotmail.com[/email])>
Date: Saturday, December 20, 2008, 9:46 PM
I'd be okay with Andy taking the position, Rachael. And I can vouch for his integrity if anyone has any qualms about it.
Of course - people might have qualms about my integrity - so I don't know how far that would go.. =P
T.
On Sat, Dec 20, 2008 at 7:33 PM, Rachael Jameson <verticallychallangedcutie(at)yahoo.com ([email]verticallychallangedcutie(at)yahoo.com[/email])> wrote:
[quote:e8b32b89d4] Folks,
A fellow player of yours has suggested that my husband take the Russian position. I have asked my husband and he has conditionally accepted. He wants to make sure that everyone in the game is okay with it first. I do want to put it out there that my husband does NOT watch any game I am GMing. As a matter of fact my husband is usually not home when I input orders or do the adjudications. I need a yes vote from all of you before I add him to the game. If one person says no then he will not play and we continue to wait for another player. I need all your votes in by Monday Dec 22nd at 7pm EST. I would like to run one more turn before Christmas and before we take a little break.
-Rachael
[/quote:e8b32b89d4]
[/quote:e8b32b89d4] |
| DC 212 Potential Replacement Player Found (dc212) Verticallychallangedcutie Dec 20, 09:30 pm |
Trout,
You are too funny! If Andy ever goes to Guatemala he will definitely be bringing me!!
And for the record Trout and Andy have never met, Trout was only joking!
-Rachael
--- On Sat, 12/20/08, Former Trout <former.trout(at)gmail.com> wrote:
From: Former Trout <former.trout(at)gmail.com>
Subject: Re: DC 212 Potential Replacement Player Found
To: verticallychallangedcutie(at)yahoo.com
Cc: "DC 212 Forum" <dc212(at)diplomaticcorp.com>, "Jon Stern DC 212 Austria" <jstern78(at)gmail.com>, "Greg Neilsen DC 212 England" <yeeha77(at)yahoo.com>, "Patrick Canning DC 212 France" <patrick.t.canning(at)gmail.com>, "Jimmy Ghostine DC 212 Italy" <Jimmy.Ghostine(at)vtmednet.org>, "David Ellsworth DC 212 Russia" <davidellsworth(at)sbcglobal.net>, "Andrew Ott DC 212 Turkey" <drew3739o(at)yahoo.com>, "Stephen Lytton" <stevelytton(at)hotmail.com>
Date: Saturday, December 20, 2008, 10:24 PM
And because of that bar-fight we got into in Guatemala where he watched my back. Those girls were tough for teenagers...
On Sat, Dec 20, 2008 at 8:21 PM, Rachael Jameson <verticallychallangedcutie(at)yahoo.com ([email]verticallychallangedcutie(at)yahoo.com[/email])> wrote:
[quote:02d86fa3ab]Jon,
I don't want it to sound like I am being rude but playing on the site you are going to run into people you have played with before. Such is the case with my husband and Trout. Trout lives in Canada, we live in the United States. We have never met him. I have GM'd for Trout, played in a game with Trout and he is currently my GM in two other games. Trout can vouch for Andy only because Trout knows he is a reliable player who does not NMR, always submits prelims and always communicates.
-Rachael
--- On Sat, 12/20/08, Former Trout <former.trout(at)gmail.com ([email]former.trout(at)gmail.com[/email])> wrote:
[quote:02d86fa3ab] From: Former Trout <former.trout(at)gmail.com ([email]former.trout(at)gmail.com[/email])>
Subject: Re: DC 212 Potential Replacement Player Found
To: verticallychallangedcutie(at)yahoo.com ([email]verticallychallangedcutie(at)yahoo.com[/email])
Cc: "DC 212 Forum" <dc212(at)diplomaticcorp.com ([email]dc212(at)diplomaticcorp.com[/email])>, "Jon Stern DC 212 Austria" <jstern78(at)gmail.com ([email]jstern78(at)gmail.com[/email])>, "Greg Neilsen DC 212 England" <yeeha77(at)yahoo.com ([email]yeeha77(at)yahoo.com[/email])>, "Patrick Canning DC 212 France" <patrick.t.canning(at)gmail.com ([email]patrick.t.canning(at)gmail.com[/email])>, "Jimmy Ghostine DC 212 Italy" <Jimmy.Ghostine(at)vtmednet.org ([email]Jimmy.Ghostine(at)vtmednet.org[/email])>, "David Ellsworth DC 212 Russia" <davidellsworth(at)sbcglobal.net ([email]davidellsworth(at)sbcglobal.net[/email])>, "Andrew Ott DC 212 Turkey" <drew3739o(at)yahoo.com ([email]drew3739o(at)yahoo.com[/email])>, "Stephen Lytton" <stevelytton(at)hotmail.com ([email]stevelytton(at)hotmail.com[/email])>
Date: Saturday, December 20, 2008, 9:46 PM
I'd be okay with Andy taking the position, Rachael. And I can vouch for his integrity if anyone has any qualms about it.
Of course - people might have qualms about my integrity - so I don't know how far that would go.. =P
T.
On Sat, Dec 20, 2008 at 7:33 PM, Rachael Jameson <verticallychallangedcutie(at)yahoo.com ([email]verticallychallangedcutie(at)yahoo.com[/email])> wrote:
[quote:02d86fa3ab] Folks,
A fellow player of yours has suggested that my husband take the Russian position. I have asked my husband and he has conditionally accepted. He wants to make sure that everyone in the game is okay with it first. I do want to put it out there that my husband does NOT watch any game I am GMing. As a matter of fact my husband is usually not home when I input orders or do the adjudications. I need a yes vote from all of you before I add him to the game. If one person says no then he will not play and we continue to wait for another player. I need all your votes in by Monday Dec 22nd at 7pm EST. I would like to run one more turn before Christmas and before we take a little break.
-Rachael
[/quote:02d86fa3ab]
[/quote:02d86fa3ab]
[/quote:02d86fa3ab] |
| DC 212 Potential Replacement Player Found (dc212) former.trout Dec 20, 09:38 pm |
I was only joking. Although there was that dwarf-tossing incident along the Ross Ice Shelf...
On Sat, Dec 20, 2008 at 8:29 PM, Rachael Jameson <verticallychallangedcutie(at)yahoo.com ([email]verticallychallangedcutie(at)yahoo.com[/email])> wrote:
Trout,
You are too funny! If Andy ever goes to Guatemala he will definitely be bringing me!!
And for the record Trout and Andy have never met, Trout was only joking!
-Rachael
--- On Sat, 12/20/08, Former Trout <former.trout(at)gmail.com ([email]former.trout(at)gmail.com[/email])> wrote:
[quote:cd90e7f487]From: Former Trout <former.trout(at)gmail.com ([email]former.trout(at)gmail.com[/email])>
Subject: Re: DC 212 Potential Replacement Player Found
To: verticallychallangedcutie(at)yahoo.com ([email]verticallychallangedcutie(at)yahoo.com[/email])
Cc: "DC 212 Forum" <dc212(at)diplomaticcorp.com ([email]dc212(at)diplomaticcorp.com[/email])>, "Jon Stern DC 212 Austria" <jstern78(at)gmail.com ([email]jstern78(at)gmail.com[/email])>, "Greg Neilsen DC 212 England" <yeeha77(at)yahoo.com ([email]yeeha77(at)yahoo.com[/email])>, "Patrick Canning DC 212 France" <patrick.t.canning(at)gmail.com ([email]patrick.t.canning(at)gmail.com[/email])>, "Jimmy Ghostine DC 212 Italy" <Jimmy.Ghostine(at)vtmednet.org ([email]Jimmy.Ghostine(at)vtmednet.org[/email])>, "David Ellsworth DC 212 Russia" <davidellsworth(at)sbcglobal.net ([email]davidellsworth(at)sbcglobal.net[/email])>, "Andrew Ott DC 212 Turkey" <drew3739o(at)yahoo.com ([email]drew3739o(at)yahoo.com[/email])>, "Stephen Lytton" <stevelytton(at)hotmail.com ([email]stevelytton(at)hotmail.com[/email])>
Date: Saturday, December 20, 2008, 10:24 PM
And because of that bar-fight we got into in Guatemala where he watched my back. Those girls were tough for teenagers...
On Sat, Dec 20, 2008 at 8:21 PM, Rachael Jameson <verticallychallangedcutie(at)yahoo.com ([email]verticallychallangedcutie(at)yahoo.com[/email])> wrote:
[quote:cd90e7f487] Jon,
I don't want it to sound like I am being rude but playing on the site you are going to run into people you have played with before. Such is the case with my husband and Trout. Trout lives in Canada, we live in the United States. We have never met him. I have GM'd for Trout, played in a game with Trout and he is currently my GM in two other games. Trout can vouch for Andy only because Trout knows he is a reliable player who does not NMR, always submits prelims and always communicates.
-Rachael
--- On Sat, 12/20/08, Former Trout <former.trout(at)gmail.com ([email]former.trout(at)gmail.com[/email])> wrote:
[quote:cd90e7f487] From: Former Trout <former.trout(at)gmail.com ([email]former.trout(at)gmail.com[/email])>
Subject: Re: DC 212 Potential Replacement Player Found
To: verticallychallangedcutie(at)yahoo.com ([email]verticallychallangedcutie(at)yahoo.com[/email])
Cc: "DC 212 Forum" <dc212(at)diplomaticcorp.com ([email]dc212(at)diplomaticcorp.com[/email])>, "Jon Stern DC 212 Austria" <jstern78(at)gmail.com ([email]jstern78(at)gmail.com[/email])>, "Greg Neilsen DC 212 England" <yeeha77(at)yahoo.com ([email]yeeha77(at)yahoo.com[/email])>, "Patrick Canning DC 212 France" <patrick.t.canning(at)gmail.com ([email]patrick.t.canning(at)gmail.com[/email])>, "Jimmy Ghostine DC 212 Italy" <Jimmy.Ghostine(at)vtmednet.org ([email]Jimmy.Ghostine(at)vtmednet.org[/email])>, "David Ellsworth DC 212 Russia" <davidellsworth(at)sbcglobal.net ([email]davidellsworth(at)sbcglobal.net[/email])>, "Andrew Ott DC 212 Turkey" <drew3739o(at)yahoo.com ([email]drew3739o(at)yahoo.com[/email])>, "Stephen Lytton" <stevelytton(at)hotmail.com ([email]stevelytton(at)hotmail.com[/email])>
Date: Saturday, December 20, 2008, 9:46 PM
I'd be okay with Andy taking the position, Rachael. And I can vouch for his integrity if anyone has any qualms about it.
Of course - people might have qualms about my integrity - so I don't know how far that would go.. =P
T.
On Sat, Dec 20, 2008 at 7:33 PM, Rachael Jameson <verticallychallangedcutie(at)yahoo.com ([email]verticallychallangedcutie(at)yahoo.com[/email])> wrote:
[quote:cd90e7f487] Folks,
A fellow player of yours has suggested that my husband take the Russian position. I have asked my husband and he has conditionally accepted. He wants to make sure that everyone in the game is okay with it first. I do want to put it out there that my husband does NOT watch any game I am GMing. As a matter of fact my husband is usually not home when I input orders or do the adjudications. I need a yes vote from all of you before I add him to the game. If one person says no then he will not play and we continue to wait for another player. I need all your votes in by Monday Dec 22nd at 7pm EST. I would like to run one more turn before Christmas and before we take a little break.
-Rachael
[/quote:cd90e7f487]
[/quote:cd90e7f487]
[/quote:cd90e7f487]
[/quote:cd90e7f487] |
| DC219, Out on a limb - m_don_j (Dec 20, 2008, 6:32 pm) |
And here are the results:
Orders:
Austria:
F Bulgaria(sc) Supports A Greece
A Greece S F Bulgaria (sc)
A Serbia - Albania
A Trieste Supports A Tyrolia - Venice
A Tyrolia - Venice (*Fails*)
A Vienna - Budapest
England:
F Brest Supports F Mid-Atlantic Ocean
F Edinburgh - North Sea
F English Channel Supports F Edinburgh - North Sea
F Mid-Atlantic Ocean Supports F Brest
F Norway - Sweden (*Fails*)
A St Petersburg - Finland
France:
F Gascony Supports F Spain(sc)
A Portugal S F Spain (sc)
F Spain(sc), no move recieved
Germany:
A Belgium - Burgundy (*Bounce*)
A Burgundy - Paris
F Denmark - Helgoland Bight
A Kiel - Denmark
A Munich - Burgundy (*Bounce*)
A Picardy Supports F Gascony - Brest (*Void*)
F Sweden Hold
Italy:
A Apulia Supports A Venice
F Ionian Sea - Adriatic Sea
A Marseilles Supports F Western Mediterranean - Spain(sc)
A Venice, Hold
F Western Mediterranean - Spain(sc) (*Fails*)
Russia:
F Ankara, Hold
F Black Sea Supports F Ankara
A Ukraine - Rumania
A Warsaw - Moscow
Turkey:
F Aegean Sea - Greece (*Fails*)
F Constantinople - Ankara (*Fails*)
A Smyrna Supports F Constantinople - Ankara
Ownership:
Austria: Budapest, Bulgaria, Greece, Serbia, Trieste, Vienna.
England: Brest, Edinburgh, Liverpool, London, Norway, St
Petersburg.
France: Portugal, Spain.
Germany: Belgium, Berlin, Denmark, Holland, Kiel, Munich,
Paris, Sweden.
Italy: Marseilles, Naples, Rome, Tunis, Venice.
Russia: Ankara, Moscow, Rumania, Sevastopol, Warsaw.
Turkey: Constantinople, Smyrna.
Adjustments:
Austria: Supp 6 Unit 6 Build 0
England: Supp 6 Unit 6 Build 0
France: Supp 2 Unit 3 Remove 1
Germany: Supp 8 Unit 7 Build 1
Italy: Supp 5 Unit 5 Build 0
Russia: Supp 5 Unit 4 Build 1
Turkey: Supp 2 Unit 3 Remove 1
4 adjustments in total - Would LOVE to have theese today (Sunday) or early Monday if possible. That way we can then take a well deserved break during the holidays. I will adjudicate when I get theese four adjustments. Deadline for this, to make it compatible with me beeing away is Monday 22/12 07:00:00
Have fun!
/ Mikael
Höststäda med nya dammsugarpåsar. www.Dammsugarpåsar.Nu[Reply] |
| DC 218 SHIFT LEFT: Delay of game - packrat (Dec 20, 2008, 6:23 pm) |
I am missing the orders from one player and since I did not announce the
deadline was approaching I am going to extend the deadline. Since the
player in question never provided me with his weekend availability I have
to assume he does NOT have weekend access.
I will adjudicate Monday night at 2100 EST with what I have.
Actually, I have put all the orders into RP except the missing
set so I am just about set to go.[Reply] |
| DC219, Speed of lightning - m_don_j (Dec 20, 2008, 6:19 pm) |
...or faster, the missing set now jumped into my inbox. I will adjudicate right away, expect results asap.
/ Mikael
kolla in resten av Windows LiveT. Inte bara e-post - Windows LiveT är mycket mer än din inkorg. Mer än bara meddelanden[Reply] |
| DC219, 1 set short - m_don_j (Dec 20, 2008, 6:14 pm) |
Fellow players,
We're one set short. The player in question will be contacted shortly. I'm dead tired (seem I've caught something), so I'll check in a bit later to see if that set is in. If not, I'll start the 24 hour grace period.
/ Mikael - Your sneezing GM
Dela foton på ett smidigt sätt med Windows LiveT Photos. Dra och släpp[Reply] |
| dc 197 Winter 1905 - Kai (Dec 20, 2008, 3:41 pm) |
Right map+
On Fri, Dec 19, 2008 at 4:47 PM, Jackson Foster <jrobfoster(at)gmail.com ([email]jrobfoster(at)gmail.com[/email])> wrote:
That map is still wrong. I will send out the new one when I get home tonight. Sorry all, it is an Austrian fleet in TRI jsut to remind everyone.
On Thu, Dec 18, 2008 at 3:12 PM, Jackson Foster <jrobfoster(at)gmail.com ([email]jrobfoster(at)gmail.com[/email])> wrote:
[quote:caa09ac68a]Hey guys,
The ruling stands as is. I interpreted it as farthest away from the home centers, as did RealPolitik. There was a mess up on my part however, Austria is right and it should be a Fleet in Tri. I read it horribly wrong and have no idea why. >_< Correct map is attached. And it seems everyone is ok with the deadline as is?
Kai
On Thu, Dec 18, 2008 at 12:07 AM, Packrat <brn2dip(at)yahoo.com ([email]brn2dip(at)yahoo.com[/email])> wrote:
[quote:caa09ac68a] FWIW - I agree. On all points.
You might also want to consider something at the top of the houserules
stating what edition was used in drafting the rules. The URL you had
in the other email would be good to put up there as well.
From: Former Trout <former.trout(at)gmail.com ([email]former.trout(at)gmail.com[/email])>
To: Kevin Lynch <klynch427(at)hotmail.com ([email]klynch427(at)hotmail.com[/email])>
Cc: Germany Diplomacy <brn2dip(at)yahoo.com ([email]brn2dip(at)yahoo.com[/email])>; Turkey DC 197 <kodiplomacy(at)gmail.com ([email]kodiplomacy(at)gmail.com[/email])>; Jackson Foster <jrobfoster(at)gmail.com ([email]jrobfoster(at)gmail.com[/email])>; Stephen Lytton <stevelytton(at)hotmail.com ([email]stevelytton(at)hotmail.com[/email])>; Vincent France Diplomacy <vincentdecattoire(at)yahoo.fr ([email]vincentdecattoire(at)yahoo.fr[/email])>; Joe/Italy Diplomacy <josepayne(at)gmail.com ([email]josepayne(at)gmail.com[/email])>; Trevor/England Diplomacy <rtbaillie(at)hotmail.com ([email]rtbaillie(at)hotmail.com[/email])>; dc197(at)diplomaticcorp.com ([email]dc197(at)diplomaticcorp.com[/email])
Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2008 12:02:17 AM
Subject: Re: dc 197 Winter 1905
Guys,
Having taken part in creating the default HRs I can assure everyone that it was never the intention to create a set of rules that conflicted with the Standard Diplomacy rules.
The quote I just pasted from the rules says essentially the same thing as our house rules do - only our HRs throw in the SC condition as well. Instead of a bullet-point list, the standard rulebook just wrote it into a paragraph.
The bullet-point list is only to eliminate options to reduce the auto-disband to a single choice. All four conditions should be viewed as a set and taken together.
The final word is up to Jackson, of course. But the rule-book says that he made the right call, the HRs say that he made the right call and as the player whose unit it is I agree with it as well.
T.
On Wed, Dec 17, 2008 at 9:49 PM, Kevin Lynch <klynch427(at)hotmail.com ([email]klynch427(at)hotmail.com[/email])> wrote:
[quote:caa09ac68a] Wow - lots of emails in my inbox tonight. 2 comments.
1) I actually requested a Fleet in Trieste. I've re-sent that email to the GM, not sure how I ended up with an Army in TRI instead.
2) I'm not sure I quite understand the "take the rules as a whole" argument. Don't you use alphabetically only as the last resort? And don't you use fleet over army only as the next-to-last resort? It would make more sense to me to keep a unit in a supply center, so I'd think that comes first. In which case, BLA should be disbanded and not MUN. I don't really care too much how this ends up, but that is the outcome that makes the most sense to me.
Austrian Kevin
Date: Wed, 17 Dec 2008 20:37:22 -0800
From: brn2dip(at)yahoo.com ([email]brn2dip(at)yahoo.com[/email])
Subject: Re: dc 197 Winter 1905
To: former.trout(at)gmail.com ([email]former.trout(at)gmail.com[/email])
CC: kodiplomacy(at)gmail.com ([email]kodiplomacy(at)gmail.com[/email]); jrobfoster(at)gmail.com ([email]jrobfoster(at)gmail.com[/email]); stevelytton(at)hotmail.com ([email]stevelytton(at)hotmail.com[/email]); vincentdecattoire(at)yahoo.fr ([email]vincentdecattoire(at)yahoo.fr[/email]); josepayne(at)gmail.com ([email]josepayne(at)gmail.com[/email]); rtbaillie(at)hotmail.com ([email]rtbaillie(at)hotmail.com[/email]); KLYNCH427(at)hotmail.com ([email]KLYNCH427(at)hotmail.com[/email]); dc197(at)diplomaticcorp.com ([email]dc197(at)diplomaticcorp.com[/email])
A fleet in SYR cannot go through ARM. If it said shortest distance I would agree.
Oh, wait - these are DC rules - the hell with the game rules.
From: Former Trout <former.trout(at)gmail.com ([email]former.trout(at)gmail.com[/email])>
To: Packrat <brn2dip(at)yahoo.com ([email]brn2dip(at)yahoo.com[/email])>
Cc: Kevin O <kodiplomacy(at)gmail.com ([email]kodiplomacy(at)gmail.com[/email])>; Jackson Foster <jrobfoster(at)gmail.com ([email]jrobfoster(at)gmail.com[/email])>; Stephen Lytton <stevelytton(at)hotmail.com ([email]stevelytton(at)hotmail.com[/email])>; Vincent Decattoire <vincentdecattoire(at)yahoo.fr ([email]vincentdecattoire(at)yahoo.fr[/email])>; joe payne <josepayne(at)gmail.com ([email]josepayne(at)gmail.com[/email])>; Trevor Baillie <rtbaillie(at)hotmail.com ([email]rtbaillie(at)hotmail.com[/email])>; KLYNCH427(at)hotmail.com ([email]KLYNCH427(at)hotmail.com[/email]); dc197(at)diplomaticcorp.com ([email]dc197(at)diplomaticcorp.com[/email])
Sent: Wednesday, December 17, 2008 11:33:22 PM
Subject: Re: dc 197 Winter 1905
Right on. So we agree. =)
On Wed, Dec 17, 2008 at 9:32 PM, Packrat <brn2dip(at)yahoo.com ([email]brn2dip(at)yahoo.com[/email])> wrote:
[quote:caa09ac68a] nope - the 82 rules say "as computed by the shortest route"
From: Former Trout <former.trout(at)gmail.com ([email]former.trout(at)gmail.com[/email])>
To: Packrat <brn2dip(at)yahoo.com ([email]brn2dip(at)yahoo.com[/email])>
Cc: Kevin O <kodiplomacy(at)gmail.com ([email]kodiplomacy(at)gmail.com[/email])>; Jackson Foster <jrobfoster(at)gmail.com ([email]jrobfoster(at)gmail.com[/email])>; Stephen Lytton <stevelytton(at)hotmail.com ([email]stevelytton(at)hotmail.com[/email])>; Vincent Decattoire <vincentdecattoire(at)yahoo.fr ([email]vincentdecattoire(at)yahoo.fr[/email])>; joe payne <josepayne(at)gmail.com ([email]josepayne(at)gmail.com[/email])>; Trevor Baillie <rtbaillie(at)hotmail.com ([email]rtbaillie(at)hotmail.com[/email])>; KLYNCH427(at)hotmail.com ([email]KLYNCH427(at)hotmail.com[/email]); dc197(at)diplomaticcorp.com ([email]dc197(at)diplomaticcorp.com[/email])
Sent: Wednesday, December 17, 2008 11:29:20 PM
Subject: Re: dc 197 Winter 1905
Number of spaces is counted regardless of unit type. Whether the unit is a fleet or an army is irrelevent. For the purpose of calculating distance from a home SC, the unit is either X number of spaces or it is not.
You guys are adding sub-text where there isn't any.
T.
On Wed, Dec 17, 2008 at 9:27 PM, Packrat <brn2dip(at)yahoo.com ([email]brn2dip(at)yahoo.com[/email])> wrote:
[quote:caa09ac68a] No, I think he may be correct - SYR can NOT go to ARM.
If we are taking convoys into account then I think the intent
is that the route the unit must take is important as well.
From: Former Trout <former.trout(at)gmail.com ([email]former.trout(at)gmail.com[/email])>
To: Kevin O <kodiplomacy(at)gmail.com ([email]kodiplomacy(at)gmail.com[/email])>
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Sent: Wednesday, December 17, 2008 11:25:17 PM
Subject: Re: dc 197 Winter 1905
What happened to Armenia? Did we suddenly pop into a seismic game? =P
On Wed, Dec 17, 2008 at 9:24 PM, Kevin O <kodiplomacy(at)gmail.com ([email]kodiplomacy(at)gmail.com[/email])> wrote:
[quote:caa09ac68a] Nope, because a fleet in SYR is not two spaces away from a Russian province.
In that case, the fleet in SYR would be removed, because even at the least, the fleet in SYR is 4 spaces away from SEV.
On Wed, Dec 17, 2008 at 10:21 PM, Packrat <brn2dip(at)yahoo.com ([email]brn2dip(at)yahoo.com[/email])> wrote:
[quote:caa09ac68a] yes - even if the unit in SYR was also a fleet.
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To: Packrat <brn2dip(at)yahoo.com ([email]brn2dip(at)yahoo.com[/email])>
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Sent: Wednesday, December 17, 2008 11:18:57 PM
Subject: Re: dc 197 Winter 1905
Exactly. Because both are two spaces away from Russias home SCs. Then you take the one that is not on an SC itself.
Go one step further. Same example but add a fleet in the Norwegian Sea. In that case, it would be the fleet that gets disbanded and Munich and Syria would both stay on the board.
T.
On Wed, Dec 17, 2008 at 9:15 PM, Packrat <brn2dip(at)yahoo.com ([email]brn2dip(at)yahoo.com[/email])> wrote:
[quote:caa09ac68a] so then if you had a unit in MUN and SYR - the unit in SYR would
then be disbanded?
From: Former Trout <former.trout(at)gmail.com ([email]former.trout(at)gmail.com[/email])>
To: Packrat <brn2dip(at)yahoo.com ([email]brn2dip(at)yahoo.com[/email])>
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Sent: Wednesday, December 17, 2008 11:00:40 PM
Subject: Re: dc 197 Winter 1905
None of those take precedence over each other - they are meant to be taken as a whole.
i.e.
The unit disbanded is the one that is furthest from a home center.
If more than one is equidistant from a home SC, then the unit removed is one not on a supply center.
If more than one are not on a supply center then you take fleets before armies.
Then you resort to the alphabet if there choices still have not resolved into one.
In this case there was only one unit that was two spaces away from a home SC. That was Munich.
T.
On Wed, Dec 17, 2008 at 8:54 PM, Packrat <brn2dip(at)yahoo.com ([email]brn2dip(at)yahoo.com[/email])> wrote:
[quote:caa09ac68a] Yeah, I was just looking at that. What the rules don't say is which takes priority,
furtherest from home, or on a supply center or not.
But I am curious - given the three editions that have come out since my 82 edition -
what do they say? Yes, I know the DC House Rules trump the real rules, but it
would be interesting to see what they say. Especially since Kevin's email implies they
may be different.
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To: Kevin O <kodiplomacy(at)gmail.com ([email]kodiplomacy(at)gmail.com[/email])>
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Sent: Wednesday, December 17, 2008 10:47:59 PM
Subject: Re: dc 197 Winter 1905
Good grief. How did I miss sending in that order. Sorry guys.
Packrat is right though - the default is usually the unit furthest from the home centers. (Not just any center.) But default removals are covered by the HRS - which are in this case the default DC house rules.
"On a Winter turn an NMR (NBR/NDR) would mean that if the player was building - the builds would be waived and if the player was disbanding, units would be disbanded under the following rules [list:caa09ac68a] [*:caa09ac68a]Units not in a supply center before units in a supply center [*:caa09ac68a]Units further from home centers before units closer to home centers [*:caa09ac68a]Fleets before armies if equidistant per the above [*:caa09ac68a]Alphabetical"[/list:u:caa09ac68a]
Both of my units that are not on a supply center are only one space from a home center. Munich is two. As such, Jackson made the correct disband.
Long story short, the lapse on my part was unforgiveable and the forced disband is my fault. I think Jackosn made the right call.
Trout
On Wed, Dec 17, 2008 at 8:24 PM, Kevin O <kodiplomacy(at)gmail.com ([email]kodiplomacy(at)gmail.com[/email])> wrote:
[quote:caa09ac68a] Which rules are you referencing?
On Wed, Dec 17, 2008 at 8:14 PM, Packrat <brn2dip(at)yahoo.com ([email]brn2dip(at)yahoo.com[/email])> wrote:
[quote:caa09ac68a] I believe the rules say HOME supply center.
The units are removed furthest from home first - regardless of
whether it is a supply center or not, armies before fleets, and
alphabetically if equidistant.
From: Kevin O <kodiplomacy(at)gmail.com ([email]kodiplomacy(at)gmail.com[/email])>
To: Jackson Foster <jrobfoster(at)gmail.com ([email]jrobfoster(at)gmail.com[/email])>
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Sent: Wednesday, December 17, 2008 9:11:33 PM
Subject: Re: dc 197 Winter 1905
Folks, I have a dispute about these adjudications.
The default by Russia seems to be incorrect adjudicated, according to the DiplomaticCorp House Rules.
The rules specifically state that the first unit to be removed is a unit that is not in a supply center. Clearly, MUN is a supply center.
Then, the next criteria states that the unit which is further from a home supply center is to be removed. Both FIN and BLA are one space away from a home supply center (even though STP is not owned by Russia, it is still a Home supply center).
The third criteria is a fleet before an army will be removed. BLA is a fleet. FIN is an army. Therefore, BLA should have been removed.
Thanks,
-kevin
On Wed, Dec 17, 2008 at 7:05 PM, Jackson Foster <jrobfoster(at)gmail.com ([email]jrobfoster(at)gmail.com[/email])> wrote:
[quote:caa09ac68a] Austria:
Build A Trieste
Build A Vienna
Build A Budapest
England:
Defaults, removing F Yorkshire
France:
Build A Paris
Build A Marseilles
Build F Brest
Germany:
Remove A Bohemia
Italy:
Remove F Eastern Mediterranean
Remove A Ankara
Russia:
Defaults, removing A Munich
Next orders due Friday the 26th 23:00 GMT
If this does not work let me know as I know some may be on vacation.
Kai
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| DC196 Heroes And Villains - Spring 1909 - former.trout (Dec 20, 2008, 3:14 pm) |
Heya folks,
Quick and dirty this adjudication. Turkey jams open the Marseilles gates while in the North there's an interesting fleet movement into the Gulf of Bothnia.. No other retreats are required other than the automatic disband of the French force in Marseilles. Deadline for Fall 1909 orders will be set for after Christmas - Monday, December 29th (11:59 PM GMT).
Hope everyone has a happy holidays, and that the jolly old elf is good to you all. =)
Cheers!
Egg-Nog Trout
Movement results for Spring of 1909. (DC196 09 SPR)
Austria: A Budapest - Vienna.
Austria: A Munich - Burgundy (*Fails*).
Austria: A Silesia - Munich (*Fails*).
Austria: F Trieste Hold.
Austria: A Tyrolia Supports A Silesia - Munich (*Fails*).
Austria: A Vienna - Bohemia.
England: F Norway Hold.
England: F Sweden - Gulf of Bothnia.
France: F Brest - Mid-Atlantic Ocean.
France: A Gascony Supports F Spain(sc).
France: F Marseilles Supports F Spain(sc) (*Disbanded*).
France: F Mid-Atlantic Ocean - Portugal.
France: F Spain(sc) Supports F Marseilles (*Cut*).
Germany: A Burgundy Supports F Marseilles (*Cut*).
Germany: A Denmark Supports A Kiel.
Germany: F English Channel Supports F Brest - Mid-Atlantic Ocean.
Germany: A Kiel Supports A Denmark.
Germany: F North Sea Supports F North Atlantic Ocean - Norwegian Sea.
Germany: A Ruhr Supports A Kiel.
Italy: F North Africa - Mid-Atlantic Ocean (*Fails*).
Italy: F Piedmont Supports F Gulf of Lyon - Marseilles.
Italy: F Tunis Supports F Western Mediterranean (*Void*).
Italy: F Venice - Apulia.
Russia: F North Atlantic Ocean - Norwegian Sea.
Turkey: F Ankara - Constantinople.
Turkey: A Berlin Supports A Silesia - Munich.
Turkey: A Bulgaria Hold.
Turkey: A Constantinople - Smyrna.
Turkey: F Gulf of Lyon - Marseilles.
Turkey: A Moscow - St Petersburg.
Turkey: A St Petersburg - Finland.
Turkey: F Tyrrhenian Sea - Gulf of Lyon.
Turkey: A Warsaw Hold.
Turkey: F Western Mediterranean - Spain(sc) (*Fails*).
Unit locations:
Austria: A Bohemia, A Munich, A Silesia, F Trieste, A Tyrolia, A Vienna.
England: F Gulf of Bothnia, F Norway.
France: A Gascony, F Marseilles, F Mid-Atlantic Ocean, F Portugal, F
Spain(sc).
Germany: A Burgundy, A Denmark, F English Channel, A Kiel, F North Sea, A
Ruhr.
Italy: F Apulia, F North Africa, F Piedmont, F Tunis.
Russia: F Norwegian Sea.
Turkey: A Berlin, A Bulgaria, F Constantinople, A Finland, F Gulf of Lyon, F
Marseilles, A Smyrna, A St Petersburg, A Warsaw, F Western
Mediterranean.
Ownership of supply centers:
Austria: Budapest, Greece, Munich, Serbia, Trieste, Vienna.
England: Norway, Sweden.
France: Brest, Marseilles, Paris, Portugal, Spain.
Germany: Belgium, Denmark, Holland, Kiel, Liverpool, London.
Italy: Naples, Rome, Tunis, Venice.
Russia: Edinburgh.
Turkey: Ankara, Berlin, Bulgaria, Constantinople, Moscow, Rumania,
Sevastopol, Smyrna, St Petersburg, Warsaw.
Austria: 6 Supply centers, 6 Units: Builds 0 units.
England: 2 Supply centers, 2 Units: Builds 0 units.
France: 5 Supply centers, 5 Units: Builds 0 units.
Germany: 6 Supply centers, 6 Units: Builds 0 units.
Italy: 4 Supply centers, 4 Units: Builds 0 units.
Russia: 1 Supply center, 1 Unit: Builds 0 units.
Turkey: 10 Supply centers, 10 Units: Builds 0 units.
NEXT DEADLINE: FALL 1909 ORDERS DUE MONDAY, DECEMBER 29TH (11:59 PM GMT)!![Reply] |
| dc193 ~ Manifested Destiny - FuzzyLogic (Dec 20, 2008, 2:41 pm) |
What good did "breaking france" do? It just lost you the game. Spain was the one with the clear shot at the win, so then that baffles me too that you'd want to see France go down so that Spain could win. Instead, a BF stab of Spain would have left Spain damaged but alive, and BF a bit stronger, but nowhere near the size that Spain was.
:-/
-mike
From: Andrew Tanner [mailto:damienthryn(at)gmail.com]
Sent: Sat 12/20/2008 11:33 AM
To: Michael Sims
Cc: sgttodd(at)mainecav.org; dc193(at)diplomaticcorp.com; Former Trout; Stephen Lytton; Mick Cox; Michael Thompson; Steve Caponigri
Subject: Re: dc193 ~ Manifested Destiny
I'd say, Mike, that that is the main problem with the map. There are 4 Imperial powers who simply dominate many of the continents. Europe is crowded with powers, and Britain or Spain could essentially write off Europe and consolidate in their colonial holdings. I thought from the start that a Britain-Spain was likely to form, as they had relatively few contested centers and great opportunity to crush France and Holland between them.
If I were to throw in my two cents, it'd be to suggest knocking the colonial powers back a starting unit or three in their disparate holdings, and/or restricting their home centers somewhat. If it took fewer turns to consolidate control of the colonial regions, it would keep the smaller powers like China and Russia from becoming sideshows, as they'd be gaining power bases and be threatening the Imperials.
Aside from a slight starting power imbalance that somewhat relegates the Austrians, Ottomans, Chinese and Russians, I think this is a great map. Be happy to play it again, even as China. However, Mike, you should know I was lobbying HARD for Britain to ally with Spain and stab you. I just want to take some small modicum of credit for helping to break France While on the grand scale that did probably help along a Spanish solo, from the perspective of one of the smaller powers it was kind of pick your poison. A French-British assault on Spain would have left China in about the same situation, even if I'd joined in. One would have gotten stabbed, and a different Imperial power would have gone on to solo.
Andrew
On Sat, Dec 20, 2008 at 9:20 AM, Michael Sims <mike(at)southwall.com ([email]mike(at)southwall.com[/email])> wrote:
It's a good variant. The problem with this game was that we had 3 large powers... one on around 30 sc (spain) and 2 on around 20 sc (britain and myself, france). When Britain stabbed France, that was just downright foolish, and handed the game to Spain. We two were the only two that could contest the remote Spanish holdings in Africa and S.America. Then Britain dropping off the face of the planet, and not even trying once to start up a discussion about reversing the stab and stopping Spain - led this game downhill. Jerry I dont think the variant is particularly broke, tho I have some ideas on some improvements. Overall it's very good, and the play in the game led to a solo that simply should not occur in this variant with so many sc needed for the win. I'm sorry Mick, but I thought your stab was awful, and that the ensuing lack of diplomacy and seemingness to care afterwards made for a long drawn out loss. Not to take anything away from Steve - Steve, convincing Mick to make that stab of course won you the game, so kudos to a good snowing there.
Another small drawback was the lack of early diploming from the first Holland, which saw one of the four imperial powers go down quick. This game does require a handful of active players, cuz there are so many centers at stake around the board.
-mike
From: Gerald Todd [mailto:sgttodd(at)mainecav.org ([email]sgttodd(at)mainecav.org[/email])]
Sent: Sat 12/20/2008 11:06 AM
To: dc193(at)diplomaticcorp.com ([email]dc193(at)diplomaticcorp.com[/email]); Andrew Tanner; Former Trout; Stephen Lytton; Michael Sims; Mick Cox; Michael Thompson; GM; Steve Caponigri
Subject: dc193 ~ Manifested Destiny
My over ride of the single nay vote was not simply because Spain was
certain to win the last 4 centers he needed - it was because several
players also voted with their feet by not submitting orders with their
vote. Had I adjudicated the turn with the orders I had, Spain would
have gained more than 4 centers and been in position to gain yet more in
the fall turn. By virtue of orders received, Spain had no opposition.
This variant is going into the shop. Play of the game brought problems
to the surface, some technical items that were fixed on the spot, and
some that couldn't be dealt with with the game in progress. I've gotten
some good ideas for improving the variant from most of you, and hope to
hear more of your ideas while the games fresh in your minds.
If all goes well and there's nothing in the way, I hope to start another
game in February.
Jerry
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