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dc167 Spring '01 - notasb   (Mar 24, 2008, 10:24 am)
I can not find orders from France.

Map:

http://notasb.home.comcast.net/~notasb/167/16701Spring.gif

Deadline:

Fall '01 is due Thursday March 27th 8 AM CDST (GMT -5) 1300 GMT

Orders and Results:

Austria:
A Budapest - Serbia
F Trieste Hold
A Vienna - Galicia (*Bounce*)

England:
F Edinburgh - Norwegian Sea
A Liverpool - Edinburgh
F London - North Sea

France: NMR
F Brest, no move received
A Marseilles, no move received
A Paris, no move received

Germany:
A Berlin - Kiel
F Kiel - Denmark
A Munich - Burgundy

Italy:
F Naples - Ionian Sea
A Rome - Apulia
A Venice Hold

Russia:
A Moscow - Ukraine
F Sevastopol - Black Sea (*Bounce*)
F St Petersburg(sc) - Gulf of Bothnia
A Warsaw - Galicia (*Bounce*)

Turkey:
F Ankara - Black Sea (*Bounce*)
A Constantinople - Bulgaria
A Smyrna - Constantinople



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DC138 Winter Of Our Discontent - Fall 2006 - Famil... - Raybrucea at aol.com   (Mar 24, 2008, 9:35 am)
In a message dated 3/22/2008 1:17:45 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, mike(at)southwall.com writes:

to the very “growing giant(s)” he speaks of below,



Wait a minute. Isn't it Rob's ally Lee who remains the behemoth on the board thanks to Rob going off to stab his Quebec and Heartland allies and suffering for his lack of fealty?



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DC138 Winter Of Our Discontent - Fall 2006 - Famil... - Raybrucea at aol.com   (Mar 24, 2008, 9:32 am)
In a message dated 3/22/2008 12:43:12 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, rob_ackerley(at)yahoo.ca writes:


Suddenly Mexicos dominance in the pacific has dissipated to the point where the 3 fleets of the Giant can sail a little more south and effectively shut of the Pacific to Mexico.



Yes, but why would we want to when the Mexican is so intent upon stifling the New Yorker?



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Dc142 Winter 1905 - deathblade_penguin   (Mar 24, 2008, 12:06 am)
Dc142 Winter 1905

Sorry for the Long delay.

Germany Builds Fleet Kiel.

Spring 1906 is due Thursday 27th, at 9pm Australian EST.

Stephen
aka Deathblade_penguin (Knight of the Lion)
at www.diplomaticcorp.com

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DC129 - Fall 08 Missing Orders - former.trout   (Mar 22, 2008, 2:17 am)
Heya gang,

Know you're not going to believe this, but we're missing orders for Fall 1908. The player has been notified in a seperate email and hopefully the orders will be forthcoming soon...

Thanks for the patience everyone,

Trout

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DC143 winter 1902 adjustments - coryfucius at gmail.com   (Mar 21, 2008, 2:20 pm)
Sorry for the delay, everyone, I'm back on track now. For Autumn retreats, England pulls back to the North Sea, while France gives up his claim on German lands. Winter 1902 brings forth lots of ground forces, and only one new fleet.

The deadline for Spring 1903 will be next Thursday 3/27 at 23:59 GMT.

Cory

-----

Autumn 1902 retreats:

England:
F English Channel - North Sea

France:
disband A Munich

-----

Winter 1902 adjustments:

Austria:
Build A Vienna
Build A Trieste

England:
Build F London
Build A Edinburgh

Germany:
Build A Kiel

Italy: (civil disorder)
Build waived

Russia:
Build A Warsaw

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dc155 ~ Killing Cousins - sgttodd   (Mar 21, 2008, 11:03 am)
A valiant France succumbs - Vive la persévérance!

Deadline for Winter 04 adjustments: March 24, 2359 GMT

Autumn 04: retreats
Austria: A Rum-Ser

Ownership:

Austria: Budapest, Greece, Moscow, Serbia, Trieste, Vienna.
England: Belgium, Denmark, Edinburgh, Holland, Liverpool, London,
Norway, St Petersburg, Sweden.
Germany: Berlin, Brest, Kiel, Munich, Paris.
Italy: Marseilles, Naples, Portugal, Rome, Spain, Tunis, Venice.
Russia: Warsaw.
Turkey: Ankara, Bulgaria, Constantinople, Rumania, Sevastopol, Smyrna.

Adjustments:

Austria: Supp 6 Unit 5 Build 1
England: Supp 9 Unit 7 Build 2
France: Supp 0 Unit 1 Remove 1 Eliminated
Germany: Supp 5 Unit 5 Build 0
Italy: Supp 7 Unit 7 Build 0
Russia: Supp 1 Unit 3 Remove 2
Turkey: Supp 6 Unit 4 Build 1


Deadline for Winter 04 adjustments: March 24, 2359 GMT
http://mainecav.org/diplomacy/dc155

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Once Within: Lighthouses & Watch towers - FuzzyLogic   (Mar 21, 2008, 10:07 am)
A reminder… Lighthouses and Watch Towers light up 2 spaces on your maps, but they don’t provide intelligence about what other players ordered. I may have mis-clarified that last round in the bit about orders… but your own orders and units (and a few special abilities) are the only things that learn of other players’ orders.

*************************************************

Some of you have asked what the um… “Oil Refinery looking” thing is on your map… (are my graphics that bad?)

These are either a lighthouse or a watchtower! (hopefully you can tell which it is – tho they are functionally equivalent, I just put watchtowers if inland, or lighthouses if coastal). It watches over the two spaces next to it, and keeps them lit up on every map you receive. This makes it harder to sneak up on these key cities. If it’s unclear, feel free to ask. This is a new feature for FOW IV, after having seen some brutal surprise stabs in games past.

If your lighthouse or watchtower is captured, it does NOT operate for enemy occupiers but will stop working for you. If you can liberate the city, it would resume operation.

Enjoy,
-mike

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Unknown - davidellsworth   (Mar 21, 2008, 9:59 am)
The world map edges moving? It must certainly be your races ability.

***Attention to the the World***

The Archers think so highly of themselves, that they move the world.

I'm just kidding....

Just having fun at your expense. Twisted Evil

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DC 134 - WOT - Winter 1002-1003 Builds - Githraine   (Mar 21, 2008, 8:28 am)
I did not mean to send that!
Next Spring Due Wednesday, March 26th (at) 9pm

Sorry for all the delays this week!

Jason

----- Original Message ----
From: Jason K <githraine(at)yahoo.com>
To: dc134(at)diplomaticcorp.com; fixedbythepotter(at)yahoo.com; garry.bledsoe(at)alltel.com; Julien.Crawford(at)gmail.com; Stephen Lytton <stevelytton(at)hotmail.com>; Jorge Saralegui <jorgesaralegui(at)verizon.net>; thewizard.tim(at)gmail.com; Former Trout <former.trout(at)gmail.com>; wardus2274(at)hotmail.com
Sent: Friday, March 21, 2008 9:16:32 AM
Subject: DC 134 - WOT - Winter 1002-1003 Builds

Ok The Borderlands waive their build this year, so we will move on.
The Seafolk build their first Army, and the Westlands add one as well.




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DC 134 - WOT - Winter 1002-1003 Builds - Githraine   (Mar 21, 2008, 8:26 am)
Ok The Borderlands waive their build this year, so we will move on.
The Seafolk build their first Army, and the Westlands add one as well.




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DC 134 - WOT - Winter 1002-1003 Builds (dc134) Githraine Mar 21, 08:28 am
I did not mean to send that!
Next Spring Due Wednesday, March 26th (at) 9pm

Sorry for all the delays this week!

Jason

----- Original Message ----
From: Jason K <githraine(at)yahoo.com>
To: dc134(at)diplomaticcorp.com; fixedbythepotter(at)yahoo.com; garry.bledsoe(at)alltel.com; Julien.Crawford(at)gmail.com; Stephen Lytton <stevelytton(at)hotmail.com>; Jorge Saralegui <jorgesaralegui(at)verizon.net>; thewizard.tim(at)gmail.com; Former Trout <former.trout(at)gmail.com>; wardus2274(at)hotmail.com
Sent: Friday, March 21, 2008 9:16:32 AM
Subject: DC 134 - WOT - Winter 1002-1003 Builds

Ok The Borderlands waive their build this year, so we will move on.
The Seafolk build their first Army, and the Westlands add one as well.




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DC141 - An Italian Apology - deathblade_penguin   (Mar 21, 2008, 2:22 am)
Benjy

Dont stress.. everyone gets busy or overworked. PLay out the position (albeit a posisble short time).. i think you
should finish the game rather than step down.


Stephen
aka Deathblade_penguin (Knight of the Lion)
at www.diplomaticcorp.com



From: finchleywomble(at)hotmail.com
To: former.trout(at)gmail.com; dc141(at)diplomaticcorp.com
CC: rleacock(at)cfl.rr.com; alley_cat_1990(at)hotmail.com; wtaylor1972(at)hotmail.com; jyjusy(at)hotmail.com; sordros(at)gmail.com; stevelytton(at)hotmail.com; wecanworkthisout(at)yahoo.com
Subject: RE: DC141 - An Italian Apology
Date: Fri, 21 Mar 2008 01:25:46 +0000

.ExternalClass .EC_hmmessage P {padding:0px;} .ExternalClass EC_body.hmmessage {font-size:10pt;font-family:Tahoma;} [quote:5b456c1bcf]Just wanted to apologise for my poor record of communications and getting orders in for this game. It's been a rather difficult time of year with other things and I haven't really given this game my full attention since the opening weeks - my apoligies to you all.

As things stand, I'm happy to either play out the remainder of my involvement in the game, or for a replacement player to take my place should there be one who is keen to do so.

Sorry again,

Benjy


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Once Within - f02 all out! - FuzzyLogic   (Mar 21, 2008, 2:02 am)
You should all have maps – if not, come find me!

Upcoming deadlines: (a bit slower due to spring break)

w02 builds: Tuesday March 25, 2pm Pacific
s03 orders: Tuesday April 1, 2pm Pacific

Winter may be sent out early whenever I get a full set.

Enjoy,
-mike

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Unknown (dc158) davidellsworth Mar 21, 09:59 am
The world map edges moving? It must certainly be your races ability.

***Attention to the the World***

The Archers think so highly of themselves, that they move the world.

I'm just kidding....

Just having fun at your expense. Twisted Evil
DC141 - An Italian Apology - finchleywomble   (Mar 20, 2008, 8:35 pm)

Just wanted to apologise for my poor record of communications and getting orders in for this game. It's been a rather difficult time of year with other things and I haven't really given this game my full attention since the opening weeks - my apoligies to you all.

As things stand, I'm happy to either play out the remainder of my involvement in the game, or for a replacement player to take my place should there be one who is keen to do so.

Sorry again,

Benjy

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DC141 - An Italian Apology (dc141) deathblade_penguin Mar 21, 02:22 am
Benjy

Dont stress.. everyone gets busy or overworked. PLay out the position (albeit a posisble short time).. i think you
should finish the game rather than step down.


Stephen
aka Deathblade_penguin (Knight of the Lion)
at www.diplomaticcorp.com



From: finchleywomble(at)hotmail.com
To: former.trout(at)gmail.com; dc141(at)diplomaticcorp.com
CC: rleacock(at)cfl.rr.com; alley_cat_1990(at)hotmail.com; wtaylor1972(at)hotmail.com; jyjusy(at)hotmail.com; sordros(at)gmail.com; stevelytton(at)hotmail.com; wecanworkthisout(at)yahoo.com
Subject: RE: DC141 - An Italian Apology
Date: Fri, 21 Mar 2008 01:25:46 +0000

.ExternalClass .EC_hmmessage P {padding:0px;} .ExternalClass EC_body.hmmessage {font-size:10pt;font-family:Tahoma;} [quote:5b456c1bcf]Just wanted to apologise for my poor record of communications and getting orders in for this game. It's been a rather difficult time of year with other things and I haven't really given this game my full attention since the opening weeks - my apoligies to you all.

As things stand, I'm happy to either play out the remainder of my involvement in the game, or for a replacement player to take my place should there be one who is keen to do so.

Sorry again,

Benjy


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DC124 - Spring 1907 results - agamemnondoink   (Mar 20, 2008, 8:27 pm)
help me

On Fri, Mar 21, 2008 at 2:06 AM, Josh E. <aramis604(at)yahoo.com ([email]aramis604(at)yahoo.com[/email])> wrote:

Results for Spring 1907 are in. No retreat orders necessary.


********
Austria:
A Bohemia - Silesia
A Bulgaria Hold
A Piedmont - Marseilles (*Bounce*)
A Serbia Hold
A Trieste - Venice
A Tyrolia Hold
A Venice - Rome
A Vienna - Bohemia
F Western Mediterranean - Tunis (*Bounce*)

England:
F Belgium Supports A Holland
F Brest - Mid-Atlantic Ocean
A Holland Supports A Kiel
F North Sea Supports F Sweden - Norway
F Skagerrak Supports F Sweden - Norway
F Sweden - Norway

France:
A Burgundy - Marseilles (*Bounce*)
A Kiel Supports A Prussia - Denmark
F Marseilles - Gulf of Lyon
F North Africa - Tunis (*Bounce*)
A Spain - Marseilles (*Bounce*)

Germany:
F Helgoland Bight Supports A Holland - Kiel (*Void*)

Italy:
A Munich Supports A Kiel

Russia:
F Baltic Sea Convoys A Prussia - Denmark
A Berlin Supports A Kiel
F Constantinople - Aegean Sea
A Finland - Sweden
F Norway - Norwegian Sea
A Prussia - Denmark
F Sevastopol - Black Sea
A Smyrna Hold
F St Petersburg(nc) - Barents Sea
A Warsaw - Livonia

**********


Fall 1907 is due on Friday, March 28th by 9pm pacific time.



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DC141 - Winter 04 Orders - GM Gaffes A-Plenty - former.trout   (Mar 20, 2008, 8:14 pm)
Heya folks,

Truly sorry about this. Turns out I already had the missing adjustments but had mis-filed them in a different game-folder. My bad - the slight delay is on my shoulders...

Winter adjudication is below. England builds a pair of armies, Turkey a pair of fleets. Russia pots a pair of boots in Moscow and Germany removes in Helgoland. And with Italy non-responsive, I took the liberty and removed his non-SC unit in the Tyrrhenian Sea.

Have not heard from the possible replacement players as of yet, but I will let everyone know ASAP what the situation there is. (They are blind-CC'd on this adjudication.)

Spring 1905 orders will be set for Wednesday, March 26th (11:59 PM GMT). Please send your orders to Alex, but copy me in on them in case he is still busy and cannot adjudicate.

Cheers!

Trout

Adjustment orders for Winter of 1904. (DC141 04 FALL)

England: Build A London.
England: Build A Edinburgh.

Germany: Remove F Helgoland Bight.

Italy: Remove F Tyrrhenian Sea.

Russia: Build A Moscow.

Turkey: Build F Smyrna.
Turkey: Build F Constantinople.

Unit locations:

Austria: A Rome, A Venice.
England: A Denmark, A Edinburgh, A Holland, A Kiel, A London, F North Sea, F
Norway, F St Petersburg(nc), F Sweden.
France: A Burgundy, F North Africa, A Paris, A Ruhr, A Tuscany, F Western
Mediterranean.
Germany: A Berlin, A Munich.
Italy: A Tunis.
Russia: F Baltic Sea, A Bohemia, A Budapest, F Gulf of Bothnia, A Moscow, F
Sevastopol, A Vienna.
Turkey: F Albania, F Constantinople, A Greece, F Ionian Sea, F Naples, F
Smyrna, A Trieste.

Ownership of supply centers:

Austria: Rome, Venice.
England: Denmark, Edinburgh, Holland, Kiel, Liverpool, London, Norway, St
Petersburg, Sweden.
France: Belgium, Brest, Marseilles, Paris, Portugal, Spain.
Germany: Berlin, Munich.
Italy: Tunis.
Russia: Budapest, Moscow, Rumania, Serbia, Sevastopol, Vienna, Warsaw.
Turkey: Ankara, Bulgaria, Constantinople, Greece, Naples, Smyrna, Trieste.

Austria: 2 Supply centers, 2 Units: Builds 0 units.
England: 9 Supply centers, 9 Units: Builds 0 units.
France: 6 Supply centers, 6 Units: Builds 0 units.
Germany: 2 Supply centers, 2 Units: Builds 0 units.
Italy: 1 Supply center, 1 Unit: Builds 0 units.
Russia: 7 Supply centers, 7 Units: Builds 0 units.
Turkey: 7 Supply centers, 7 Units: Builds 0 units.

The next phase of DC141 04 FALL will be Movement for Spring of 1905.


NEXT DEADLINE: SPRING 1905 ORDERS DUE WEDNESDAY, MARCH 26TH (11:59 PM GMT)!!

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DC141 - Winter 04 Orders - GM Gaffes A-Plenty (dc141) former.trout Mar 27, 11:15 pm
Better belay that notice folks. Apologies, but we seem to be short one set of orders for Spring 1905 - the player in question has been notified. I would normally follow Alex's HR's and NMR the position this turn, but due to the dual-GM nature of the last couple turns its possible that the orders were sent but simply not CC'd to me.

Whatever the case, if the last year has taught me anything it is that it never hurts to delay just a few hours to seek clarification. (Lesson learnt the hard-way.) I have given the missing player notice that orders are due by 11:59 AM GMT, or approximately 8 hours from now.


Cheers everyone. We'll get this game firing on all seven cylinders yet. =P


Trout


On Thu, Mar 27, 2008 at 9:44 PM, Former Trout <former.trout(at)gmail.com ([email]former.trout(at)gmail.com[/email])> wrote:

Heya folks,

I will be putting the DC141 Spring 1905 adjudication out momentarily. Thanks for waiting patiently - as Alex is the GM I wished to give him time to get this out.


Thanks,


Trout


On Thu, Mar 20, 2008 at 7:04 PM, Former Trout <former.trout(at)gmail.com ([email]former.trout(at)gmail.com[/email])> wrote:
[quote:87df8d4ea4] Heya folks,

Truly sorry about this. Turns out I already had the missing adjustments but had mis-filed them in a different game-folder. My bad - the slight delay is on my shoulders...

Winter adjudication is below. England builds a pair of armies, Turkey a pair of fleets. Russia pots a pair of boots in Moscow and Germany removes in Helgoland. And with Italy non-responsive, I took the liberty and removed his non-SC unit in the Tyrrhenian Sea.

Have not heard from the possible replacement players as of yet, but I will let everyone know ASAP what the situation there is. (They are blind-CC'd on this adjudication.)

Spring 1905 orders will be set for Wednesday, March 26th (11:59 PM GMT). Please send your orders to Alex, but copy me in on them in case he is still busy and cannot adjudicate.

Cheers!

Trout

Adjustment orders for Winter of 1904. (DC141 04 FALL)

England: Build A London.
England: Build A Edinburgh.

Germany: Remove F Helgoland Bight.

Italy: Remove F Tyrrhenian Sea.

Russia: Build A Moscow.

Turkey: Build F Smyrna.
Turkey: Build F Constantinople.

Unit locations:

Austria: A Rome, A Venice.
England: A Denmark, A Edinburgh, A Holland, A Kiel, A London, F North Sea, F
Norway, F St Petersburg(nc), F Sweden.
France: A Burgundy, F North Africa, A Paris, A Ruhr, A Tuscany, F Western
Mediterranean.
Germany: A Berlin, A Munich.
Italy: A Tunis.
Russia: F Baltic Sea, A Bohemia, A Budapest, F Gulf of Bothnia, A Moscow, F
Sevastopol, A Vienna.
Turkey: F Albania, F Constantinople, A Greece, F Ionian Sea, F Naples, F
Smyrna, A Trieste.

Ownership of supply centers:

Austria: Rome, Venice.
England: Denmark, Edinburgh, Holland, Kiel, Liverpool, London, Norway, St
Petersburg, Sweden.
France: Belgium, Brest, Marseilles, Paris, Portugal, Spain.
Germany: Berlin, Munich.
Italy: Tunis.
Russia: Budapest, Moscow, Rumania, Serbia, Sevastopol, Vienna, Warsaw.
Turkey: Ankara, Bulgaria, Constantinople, Greece, Naples, Smyrna, Trieste.

Austria: 2 Supply centers, 2 Units: Builds 0 units.
England: 9 Supply centers, 9 Units: Builds 0 units.
France: 6 Supply centers, 6 Units: Builds 0 units.
Germany: 2 Supply centers, 2 Units: Builds 0 units.
Italy: 1 Supply center, 1 Unit: Builds 0 units.
Russia: 7 Supply centers, 7 Units: Builds 0 units.
Turkey: 7 Supply centers, 7 Units: Builds 0 units.

The next phase of DC141 04 FALL will be Movement for Spring of 1905.


NEXT DEADLINE: SPRING 1905 ORDERS DUE WEDNESDAY, MARCH 26TH (11:59 PM GMT)!!












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DC138 Winter Of Our Discontent - Spring 2006 - Har... - Raybrucea at aol.com   (Mar 20, 2008, 12:04 pm)
In a message dated 3/19/2008 6:06:15 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, rob_ackerley(at)yahoo.ca writes:

In the same way a E/G/F alliance or a T/I/A alliance in Vanilla Dip cannot last.



On this I differ. I have successfully played both all game to a three way. Of course, not with Sims as a partner so if you are making a SPECIFIC argument in his case, I'll concede the point.

Ray



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Dc142 Fall 1905. - deathblade_penguin   (Mar 20, 2008, 5:23 am)
Dc142 Fall 1905.

I received NO moves from Turkey for Fall 1905. If i dont hear from, or receive moves for Turkey for Spring 1906 I will reluctantly place Turkey in CD. Fortunately for Spencer, this CD does not have any direct negative effect.

Austria:
F Aegean Sea Supports A Bulgaria
A Bohemia - Tyrolia (*Fails*)
A Budapest Supports A Vienna
A Bulgaria Hold
A Serbia Supports A Bulgaria
A Vienna Supports A Budapest

England: CD
F London, no move received (*Disbanded*)

France:
A Portugal Hold

Germany:
A Brest - Gascony
A Burgundy - Munich
F English Channel - Mid-Atlantic Ocean (*Bounce*)
A Gascony - Burgundy
F Holland - North Sea
A Munich - Berlin
F North Sea - London
F Sweden Hold
A Tyrolia Supports A Galicia - Vienna (*Void*)

Italy:
F Ionian Sea - Eastern Mediterranean
A Marseilles Supports A Spain
A Naples Hold
A Spain Supports A Marseilles
F Tyrrhenian Sea - Ionian Sea
F Western Mediterranean - Mid-Atlantic Ocean (*Bounce*)

Russia:
F Black Sea Supports A Rumania
A Galicia Hold
A Norway Hold
A Rumania Hold
A Sevastopol Supports A Rumania
A Ukraine Supports A Galicia
F Wales Supports F North Sea - London
A Warsaw Supports A Galicia

Turkey: NMR
A Ankara, no move received
A Constantinople, no move received
A Smyrna, no move received

Winter 1905
Germany: Build One.

I will run winter as soon as I get Steve's Build in. In the back of my mind, I think he's away for a couple of days.

Spring 1906 is due next Thursday 27th, at 9pm Australian EST.



Stephen
aka Deathblade_penguin (Knight of the Lion)
at www.diplomaticcorp.com

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Dc132 - Turkish Grace Period - deathblade_penguin   (Mar 20, 2008, 5:13 am)
Dc132 Spring 1908 was due Thursday 20th at 9pm, Australian EST.

I have NO moves from Turkey. My records indicate that Turkey has not yet used his grace period, so the 24 hour grace period is now starting for Spring 1908.

This means the only England has a grace period remaining.

I will adjudicate as soon as I have Turkish moves, or 24 hours has passed (Friday 21st March at 9pm, Australian EST)

Any player is welcome to change their moves during this time.


Stephen
aka Deathblade_penguin (Knight of the Lion)
at www.diplomaticcorp.com

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DC161 - Ni! - Early Winter 826 - former.trout   (Mar 19, 2008, 9:31 pm)
Hey folks,

Apologies - I missed the Danish auto-retreat from Austrasia to Saxony. Attached is the Early Winter 826 map. Disbands remain the same except that the Danes must disband 3.

Cheers!

Trout

DC-161 Knight Who Say Ni! A Dark Ages Variant Playtest Game Started: February 18th, 2008



Current Turn: Early Winter 826
Next Deadline: Winter 826 Adjustments
Monday, March 24th (11:59 PM GMT)


The Rowdy Cast
Anglo-Saxons: Nathan Deily ndeily AT yahoo DOT com Bretons: Bruce Quinn coebq AT yahoo DOT com Danes: Rob Bristol rbristol AT cogeco DOT ca Gaels: Rob Ackerley rob_ackerley AT yahoo DOT ca Norse: Josh Engsburg aramis604 AT yahoo DOT com Scots: Clark L. clarklandry AT gmail DOT com Swedes: Mikael Johannson m_don_j AT homtail DOT com


Humble GM: Former Trout former DOT trout AT gmail DOT com



EARLY WINTER 826 RETREATS:
Danes F Jelling is Automatically Disbanded
Danes A Austrasia is Auto-Retreated to Saxony


WINTER 826 ADJUSTMENTS:
Norse: BUILDS 1 Scots: No Adjustments Swedes: BUILDS 2 Anglo-Saxons: BUILDS 1 Bretons: No Adjustments Danes: DISBANDS 3 Gaels: No Adjustments



UNIT / SUPPLY CENTER BREAKDOWN
------------------------------


NORSE: BUILDS 1
5 Supply Centers - Agd, Hor, Ves, Tro, Jel
1 Army - Opp
3 Fleets - Skg, Nth, Jel


SCOTS:
5 Supply Centers - Cai, Cir, For, Str, Dal
1 Army - Str
4 Fleets -Noc, Sta, Mof, Heb


SWEDES: BUILDS 2
7 Supply Centers - Got, Lap, Sve, Ska, Pru, Ros, Pom
2 Armies - Pru, Pom
3 Fleets - Kat, Bal, Ros


ANGLO-SAXONS: BUILDS 1
6 Supply Centers - Ean, Ham, Ken, Neu, Fri, Aus
2 Armies - Man, Fri
3 Fleets - Neu, Aus, Wfc


BRETONS:
5 Supply Centers - Gwe, Gwy, Pow, Dei, Mer
2 Armies - Lin, Pow
3 Fleets - Gwy, Brc, Dyf


DANES: DISBANDS 3
1 Supply Center - Rib
1 Army - Sax
3 Fleets - Sax(ec), Nfc, Bop


GAELS:
4 Supply Centers - Lei, Mea, Uls, Cor
1 Army - Con
3 Fleets - Cor, Iri, Cab


NEXT DEADLINE: WINTER 826 ADJUSTMENTS DUE MONDAY, MARCH 24TH (11:59 PM GMT)!!

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DC138 Winter Of Our Discontent - Spring 2006 - Har... - FuzzyLogic   (Mar 19, 2008, 5:44 pm)
Ah yes - glad to have the expert here to declare what alliances can or cannot work. Shall I take notes? EGF or AIT can and do work in the standard game. In fact they are well-documented. But you say they can't so maybe 30 years of history and thousands of games were wrong. EGF (or in our case NHQ) alliances work if you make them work. If you discount any alliance as impossible, then you're simply playing with a smaller deck of options than the rest of the players. I will keep that in mind for future games! Perhaps you should consider that they dont work for you, cuz you think they dont work and so you preemptively break them. You also think that BC/Cali shouldn't work and one should stab the other, to the extent that you're whining that they should, yet it continues to work to your dismay.

They're simply choosing not to stab. Sorry. That probly hurts your eyes to read.

Now tell me who is handing the game over?

Oh, I don't think you alone caused the predicament that the whole northeast is in. However you were certainly an instigator in the happenings. I know that Heartland moved on me first, and I tried to work w the trio again after that, and then the two of you moved in, and I tried to work w HL yet again, and he still took a center on a retreat. But I chalk that up to inexperience, whereas I know you're a veteran who's supposedly been thru this before. I am pretty certain that without your prodding, if instead you and I had stood solid, HL would not have moved against us alone. As you put it, he probly could have been "manipulated" into sticking w us indefinitely, but you played that card to our destruction instead of our growth.

I'm guessing in dc136 you probly got hit from the other side, and so didnt have the chance to stab. No doubt if say Florida or Cuba had come up at you from the south, you'd have been all for our alliance. But when given the choice, well... it is a game of choices so we need not beat that one. Unfortunately there is no disputing that I gave both yourself and Heartland a huge effort to make this work, whereas your diploming was from the start of the alliance to get HL to stab me, since I outright told you I wouldn't stab him. That was truly my mistake in this game, when you asked me to stab Heartland so early, I should have realized you were playing that both ways, and Heartland wasn't as resistant to giving in.

What was the word... yes... perspective.
Or in your case, perspecttive.




From: Rob Ackerley [mailto:rob_ackerley(at)yahoo.ca]
Sent: Wed 3/19/2008 3:05 PM
To: Michael Sims; Former Trout; dc138
Cc: Andrew Clarke; Andrew Tanner; Bruce Quinn; Bruce Ray; Jason K; Nathan Deily; Samuel Smith; Steve Lytton
Subject: Re: DC138 Winter Of Our Discontent - Spring 2006 - Hard On Equipment


Sims,

All in the perspective of the wronged. I have played this game long enough to know that a geographic situation like ours would not sustain a long term, successful 3 way alliance. In the same way a E/G/F alliance or a T/I/A alliance in Vanilla Dip cannot last. A wise friend of my tought me this valuable piece of advise (occasionally the hard way) in some FTF games. An ally is no longer an ally if they have a shot at 2 or more SC's. And in 8 years of actively playing this game I have found that theory to be true 95% of the time. Sooner or later our borders would have ended up establishing that exact status.

If you want to see whether I am capable of being a solid and secure ally, look at DC136 where I have worked with Germany from the start to both of our benefit. Germany unfortunately made a wrong guess one turn that hurt him significantly and is just climbing back up from that with the trusted help of yours truly. So yes it can be done. But more often than not, it falls apart.

Lastly before you go blaming me for my choice of adjustments, I suggest you look more at HL and him vacating his line and cooperating with BC dispite my continued support and petitioning to ensure he did not lose MIS to Cali 3 years ago. So don't point the finger on me for the advance of Cali and BC. The line that fell apart which will open the door for them was and is HL. Period. so cus him out too while you are putting the blame on me handing the game over to them. I did my level best to restore peace and support HL and he chose to side with BC. Now tell me who is handing the game over?

Perspective.

Rob


----- Original Message ----
From: Michael Sims <mike(at)southwall.com>
To: Rob Ackerley <rob_ackerley(at)yahoo.ca>; Former Trout <former.trout(at)gmail.com>; dc138 <DC138(at)diplomaticcorp.com>
Cc: Andrew Clarke <a_c_2bcool(at)hotmail.com>; Andrew Tanner <damienthryn(at)gmail.com>; Bruce Quinn <coebq(at)yahoo.com>; Bruce Ray <raybrucea(at)aol.com>; Jason K <Githraine(at)yahoo.com>; Nathan Deily <ndeily(at)yahoo.com>; Samuel Smith <agenbite.lee(at)gmail.com>; Steve Lytton <stevelytton(at)hotmail.com>
Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2008 3:38:05 PM
Subject: RE: DC138 Winter Of Our Discontent - Spring 2006 - Hard On Equipment

Please refrain from declaring my moods. I am not mad, or upset. Rather I've been enjoying the game since you (Rob) devoted an empire 4 times my size to eliminating me, and you have nothing to show for it... and in fact lost 2 centers last round. You're so worried about BC rounding that corner or me living to say "hah" that you are conceding the center of America to California and BC so as to ensure my demise. That is in a way the ultimate compliment that you are giving up your own game to take mine.

However in the same breath, you're bitching about how Cali and BC wont stab each other, when you're bailing on the center of the map in favor of retaining an army in Gas is just handing them more centers and growth w/o having to stab the other. You are feeding the monster that you're complaining about, while getting very unlucky in the battles agaisnt me.

"You're just mad and upset that you were jumped on first - before you got yourself established enough to turn on HL or I."

I think Andrew's comments are right on, and this edifies them. For had you (and Heartland) not stabbed our trio, we would be in the 3 power positions, and everyone else on the map would be encouraging us to stab the other. See this is where your logic falls apart, for you ASSUME that an alliance wont work, and that someone will stab it. However we can see that if players stick to it, then it works. You didnt give ours a chance. You basically stabbed, admittedly so that I couldnt stab you first, and anyone who approaches an alliance like that, will find themselves often alliance-less, facing those who are stronger, urging them disappointedly to stab the other.

"Your in a position to lose both your SC's this turn "

Are you proud of this? You've spent your whole game trying to elim one player, I've survived way longer than I should have, and you're coming up on the short end of the alliance stick after our trio had the best opening possible in this game. Andrew would be toast if you hadn't turned, and Heartland and myself would now be beating on the door of California (sorry Ray!). However, yes, I am in a position to lose my SC's, so kudos to you for a great start well squandered. Smile





From: Rob Ackerley [mailto:rob_ackerley(at)yahoo.ca]
Sent: Wed 3/19/2008 12:08 PM
To: Michael Sims; Former Trout; dc138
Cc: Andrew Clarke; Andrew Tanner; Bruce Quinn; Bruce Ray; Jason K; Nathan Deily; Samuel Smith; Steve Lytton
Subject: Re: DC138 Winter Of Our Discontent - Spring 2006 - Hard On Equipment



Aw Sims... in this game there was no disconnect between my words and my orders to anyone until HL decided to fudge a foolproof (or so I thought) plan to take MON and QUE from you. And not since I sought retribtution for his actions has there been disconnect. Twice HL screwed me since (justifably) and for several turns BC has spoken great things towards peace in the NE, yet his rush of units to the region paint an entirely contrasting picture.

You're just mad and upset that you were jumped on first - before you got yourself established enough to turn on HL or I. I'm just mad because I had too much confidence in the compotence of HL. I put too much trust in BC when clearly he didn't deserve any, and at present you are just an extension of him.

The fact of the matter is HL will lose his centers before he gains anything significant from me. Your in a position to lose both your SC's this turn and surprisingly even after my misorder, I am not in terrible position in the short term.

In the long term, unless BC and Cali crack or Mexico makes immediate moves to flex some naval muscle in the Pacific, then the game is over. Not one to throw in the towel, but another season or two on the current course and our little love triangle in the NE will be a distant thought.

Rob

----- Original Message ----
From: Michael Sims <mike(at)southwall.com>
To: Rob Ackerley <rob_ackerley(at)yahoo.ca>; Former Trout <former.trout(at)gmail.com>; dc138 <DC138(at)diplomaticcorp.com>
Cc: Andrew Clarke <a_c_2bcool(at)hotmail.com>; Andrew Tanner <damienthryn(at)gmail.com>; Bruce Quinn <coebq(at)yahoo.com>; Bruce Ray <raybrucea(at)aol.com>; Jason K <Githraine(at)yahoo.com>; Nathan Deily <ndeily(at)yahoo.com>; Samuel Smith <agenbite.lee(at)gmail.com>; Steve Lytton <stevelytton(at)hotmail.com>
Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2008 12:13:49 PM
Subject: RE: DC138 Winter Of Our Discontent - Spring 2006 - Hard On Equipment


Ya know if you’d stop dropping your front line units maybe you could stop those huge empires in the west. I’m sure you’ll keep going at me tho, the little guy with two measly fleets just trying to stay alive, and Cali/BC will keep expanding. But of course you prefer me as your enemy, you’ve made that clear.

guess I have swallowed my words eh Sims

I didn’t know you used words. Based on the complete disconnect between what you’ve said this game and what you’ve ordered, I figured you were just speaking gibberish.

Fuck... Fuck.... Fuckitty Fuck Fuck Fuck!!!

…pretty much confirms that.




From: Rob Ackerley [mailto:rob_ackerley(at)yahoo.ca]
Sent: Saturday, March 15, 2008 12:37 PM
To: Former Trout; dc138
Cc: Andrew Clarke; Andrew Tanner; Bruce Quinn; Bruce Ray; Jason K; Michael Sims ; Nathan Deily; Samuel Smith; Steve Lytton
Subject: Re: DC138 Winter Of Our Discontent - Spring 2006 - Hard On Equipment


Fucking coasts... Fucking internet troubles... Fuck... Fuck.... Fuckitty Fuck Fuck Fuck!!!

NY/BC joint victory proposed...

You Got luckly this time Sims... Net problems kept me from checking my orders thoroughly... Fucking 3rd world inter-fucking-net... anyways... guess I have swallowed my words eh Sims... Smile Hopefully, my stretch of 3 days without net will end today... too little too late for this game though...

Oh well... It doesn't matter much anyway....

----- Original Message ----
From: Former Trout <former.trout(at)gmail.com>
To: dc138 <DC138(at)diplomaticcorp.com>
Cc: Andrew Clarke <a_c_2bcool(at)hotmail.com>; Andrew Tanner <damienthryn(at)gmail.com>; Bruce Quinn <coebq(at)yahoo.com>; Bruce Ray <raybrucea(at)aol.com>; Jason K <Githraine(at)yahoo.com>; Mike Sims <mike(at)southwall.com>; Nathan Deily < ndeily(at)yahoo.com >; Rob Ackerley <rob_ackerley(at)yahoo.ca>; Samuel Smith <agenbite.lee(at)gmail.com>; Steve Lytton <stevelytton(at)hotmail.com>
Sent: Friday, March 14, 2008 8:43:52 PM
Subject: DC138 Winter Of Our Discontent - Spring 2006 - Hard On Equipment

Our sage guru of all guru-ness plucks this from his Spring 2006 Fortune Cookie: You will soon be more aware of your growing awareness.

Course, we're all aware of hind-sight. Mexico puts on an eye-patch and peg-leg, moving into Carribean waters. New York continues to struggle against the wrath of the previously-stabbed and the weather channels split in disagreement over the coming Canadian cold front or Sunny Californian glow...

One retreat required after all of that - the New York fleet in the Gulf of St Lawrence finds itself finding a new port. Either Newfoundland or Quebec , the American sailors will soon find themselves in a land with strange-speaking people. Deadline for the Summer 2006 retreat will be set for Sunday, March 16th (11:59 PM GMT).

Cheers all. Please just let me know if you spot any mistakes.

Trout
DC-138
A Diplomaticcorp Game
Fall of the American Empire 4 Variant
Game Started:





Current Turn:
Spring 2006

Next Deadline:
Summer 2006 Retreats
Sunday, March 16th (11:59 PM GMT)



The Rowdy Cast

British Columbia
Andrew Tanner
damienthryn AT gmail DOT com
California
Bruce Ray
Raybrucea AT aol DOT com
Cuba
Jason K.
Githraine AT yahoo DOT com
Florida
Lee Moore
agenbite DOT lee AT gmail DOT com
Heartland
Andy Ski
a_c_2bcool AT hotmail DOT com
Mexico
Bruce Quinn
coebq AT yahoo DOT com
New York
Rob Ackerley
rob_ackerley AT yahoo DOT ca
Peru
Alex Schmidt
wecanworkthisout AT yahoo DOT com
Quebec
Mike Sims
mike AT southwall DOT com
Texas
Nathan Deily
nedily AT yahoo DOT com



Humble GM:
Former Trout
former DOT trout AT gmail DOT com




CURRENT SEASON:



SPRING 2006 ORDERS:



BRITISH COLUMBIA :

F MPO H
OK
F Van - Anc
OK
F Anc - ARO
OK
F Gre - NAO
[BOUNCE with NAO 1:1]
F SOL s ( Quebec ) F NSC - GSL
OK
A Min s (HL) A Chi-Mil
VOID (No Such Order)
A Won s (HL) A Ont
OK
A Man - Non
OK
A Non - Abi
OK
A Mon - Bea
OK


CALIFORNIA :

North Pacific - WCO (West Coast?)
OK
Baja - Gulf of California
[BOUNCE with GUA 1:1]
Oklahoma - Missouri
OK
Kansas s Oklahoma - Missouri
OK
Nebraska s Oklahoma - Missouri
OK
San Antonio - Houston
[BOUNCE with HOU 2:2]
Dallas s San Antonio - Houston
OK
West Texas s Dallas
OK
New Mexico s Dallas
OK
Arizona - Colorado
OK


CUBA :

A Bogota - Vichada
OK
F Cali (nc) - South Caribbean Sea
[BOUNCE with WES 1:1]
F East Caribbean Sea - Venezuela
OK


FLORIDA :

A Hou holds
OK
A in Lou supports A in Hou holding
OK
A Ark holds
OK
A Ten supports A Ark holding
OK
A Dos supports A Ark Holding
OK
A Geo supports A Ten supporting A Ark
OK
A Hav to Cam
OK
F Mia to Sof
OK
F Sof to GoM
OK
F Kin to ECS
OK
F Les supports F Kin to ECS
OK
F WeS to Scs
[BOUNCE with CAL 1:1]


HEARTLAND:

A Chicago - Indiana
[BOUNCE with IND 1:1]
A Milwaukee - Upper Peninsula
[BOUNCE with MIC 1:1]
A Missouri - Kentucky
OK
A Ontario Supports A Montreal
VOID (Unit Ordered To Move)


MEXICO :

A Pot - Mex
OK
F Gua - GCa
[BOUNCE with BAJ 1:1]
F Ver - GoC
OK
F Gut - CoM
OK
F GoF - CoB
OK
A Nic holds
OK
A Yuc holds
OK
A NLe holds
OK
F Pan - GMo
OK
F Lima - Gal
OK


NEW YORK :

A Beauce - Gaspesie
OK
F Gulf of St-Lawrence - New Brunswick (sc)
VOID [DISLODGED by NSC 2:1]
A Indiana Supports A Tennessee - Kentucky
[CUT by CHI]
F Massachusetts Bay Supports F Gulf of St-Lawrence - New Brunswick (sc)
VOID
A Michigan - Upper Peninsula
[BOUNCE with MIL 1:1]
F North Atlantic Ocean - Nova Scotia
[BOUNCE with NBR 1:1]
A New York State - Ontario
[BOUNCE with ONT 1:2]


QUEBEC :

F NSc-GSL
OK
F NBr/nc-NSc
[BOUNCE with NAO 1:1]


SUMMER 2006 RETREATS:

New York F Gulf of St-Lawrence may retreat to Nfl, Lab, Cot, Que or OTB





UNIT / SUPPLY CENTER BREAKDOWN

------------------------------



BRITISH COLUMBIA :

10 Supply Centers - Anc, Van, Cgy, Was, Haw,

Man, Min, Ung, Gre, Mon

5 Armies - Min, Bea, Abi, Won, Non

5 Fleets - Mpo, Sol, Gre, Aro, Anc



CALIFORNIA :

10 Supply Centers - Sfr, Los, Sdi, Ore , Ari , Col ,

Chh , Kan , San, Dal

8 Armies - Mis, Dal, Wte, San, Kan , Neb , Nme , Col

2 Fleets - Baj, Wco



CUBA :

3 Supply Centers - Ven , Cal , Bog

1 Army - Vic

2 Fleets - Cal(nc), Ven



FLORIDA :

12 Supply Centers - Jac, Tam, Mia, Ten, Geo, Nca,

Lou, Hou, Hol, Dom, Hav, Kin

7 Armies - Ten, Hou , Ark , Lou, Cam , Geo, Dso

5 Fleets - Les, Wcs, Ecs, Gom, Sof



HEARTLAND:

4 Supply Centers - Mil, Mis, Chi, Ont

4 Armies - Chi, Ont, Ken, Mil

0 Fleets -



MEXICO :

10 Supply Centers - Gua, Mex, Ver, Gut, Dur, Nle,

Nic, Lim, Pan, Yuc

4 Armies - Nic, Mex, Nle, Yuc

6 Fleets - Cob, Gal, Gmo, Com, Goc, Gua



NEW YORK :

7 Supply Centers - Nyc, Nje, Phi, Mas, Ohi, Wdc,

Mic

4 Armies - Bea, Mic, Ind , Nys

3 Fleets - Mab, [Gsl], Nao



QUEBEC :

2 Supply Centers - Que, Nsc

0 Armies -

2 Fleets - Gsl, Nbr(nc)





TEXAS - ELIMINATED 2004



PERU - ELIMINATED 2005




NEXT DEADLINE: SUMMER 2006 RETREATS DUE SUNDAY, MARCH 16TH (11:59 PM GMT)!!















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GGS 1264 / DC110 - Fall 1870 Extension - former.trout   (Mar 19, 2008, 5:04 pm)
Hiya Gunners, Germers and Steelers...

Due to a player request, the Fall 1870 deadline has been pushed back to Friday, March 21st (11:59 PM GMT).

Thanks everyone!

Trout

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DC138 Winter Of Our Discontent - Spring 2006 - Har... - roback80   (Mar 19, 2008, 4:03 pm)
Andrew,

firstly I think you are thinking of the wrong foolproof plan as our communication when HL fudged it wasminimal long before my "easily manipulated" statement. And the funny thing about your declaration of my statements further solidifies my statement regarding HL. If there is anyone on this board than can say without a doubt that HL has NOT been sporadic and flip flopping all game and show proof then I will resign... right I guess I play on...

And if you accurately read what I wrote - not interpret what you want and how it suits you best - you will clearly see, and I quote "unless BC and Cali crack or Mexico makes immediate moves to flex some naval muscle in the Pacific, then the game is over." If those things happen then yes there is much to play for. But last seasons moves show Mexico edging more and more into the Caribbean and shows only the faint and probably staged movement north of a lone Cali fleet.

So like i said, and again I quote "another season or two on the current course..." and there won't be much left to discuss.



----- Original Message ----
From: Andrew Tanner <damienthryn(at)gmail.com>
To: Rob Ackerley <rob_ackerley(at)yahoo.ca>
Cc: Michael Sims <mike(at)southwall.com>; Former Trout <former.trout(at)gmail.com>; dc138 <DC138(at)diplomaticcorp.com>; Andrew Clarke <a_c_2bcool(at)hotmail.com>; Bruce Quinn <coebq(at)yahoo.com>; Bruce Ray <raybrucea(at)aol.com>; Jason K <Githraine(at)yahoo.com>; Nathan Deily <ndeily(at)yahoo.com>; Samuel Smith <agenbite.lee(at)gmail.com>; Steve Lytton <stevelytton(at)hotmail.com>
Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2008 1:30:30 PM
Subject: Re: DC138 Winter Of Our Discontent - Spring 2006 - Hard On Equipment

Just to set the record straight Rob (in case you or anyone else is interested) - the HL 'fudge' of the foolproof plan came at least in part due to my instigation - I thought he might be interested to know that you thought of him as being (I quote) "easily manipulated" and passed along those words of yours.

I have to admit, once I found that you viewed your relationship with your allies as one of mere manipulation, I lost interest in any long term relationship with you, even if that meant risking HL and Quebec combining to hit me in the future.

Frankly I wonder why Florida still sticks by you, and how manipulable you think he is.

That all being said, I don't see how this game is at the point of being proposed as a BC/Cali draw, when there's an alive and powerful Mexico and Florida that could easily contest that draw. And nothing says Cali or Florida couldn't pursue a solo venture. There's a lot of game left, methinks, and I'm sure there's plenty of chance that I'll also enjoy the feeling of clinging to a last few provinces (Artic Pirates Ho!) at some point...

And I hope you'll enjoy that feeling as well, before the end.

Andrew

On Wed, Mar 19, 2008 at 12:08 PM, Rob Ackerley <rob_ackerley(at)yahoo.ca ([email]rob_ackerley(at)yahoo.ca[/email])> wrote:


Aw Sims... in this game there was no disconnect between my words and my orders to anyone until HL decided to fudge a foolproof (or so I thought) plan to take MON and QUE from you. And not since I sought retribtution for his actions has there been disconnect. Twice HL screwed me since (justifably) and for several turns BC has spoken great things towards peace in the NE, yet his rush of units to the region paint an entirely contrasting picture.

You're just mad and upset that you were jumped on first - before you got yourself established enough to turn on HL or I. I'm just mad because I had too much confidence in the compotence of HL. I put too much trust in BC when clearly he didn't deserve any, and at present you are just an extension of him.

The fact of the matter is HL will lose his centers before he gains anything significant from me. Your in a position to lose both your SC's this turn and surprisingly even after my misorder, I am not in terrible position in the short term.

In the long term, unless BC and Cali crack or Mexico makes immediate moves to flex some naval muscle in the Pacific, then the game is over. Not one to throw in the towel, but another season or two on the current course and our little love triangle in the NE will be a distant thought.

Rob


----- Original Message ----
From: Michael Sims <mike(at)southwall.com ([email]mike(at)southwall.com[/email])>
To: Rob Ackerley <rob_ackerley(at)yahoo.ca ([email]rob_ackerley(at)yahoo.ca[/email])>; Former Trout <former.trout(at)gmail.com ([email]former.trout(at)gmail.com[/email])>; dc138 <DC138(at)diplomaticcorp.com ([email]DC138(at)diplomaticcorp.com[/email])>
Cc: Andrew Clarke <a_c_2bcool(at)hotmail.com ([email]a_c_2bcool(at)hotmail.com[/email])>; Andrew Tanner <damienthryn(at)gmail.com ([email]damienthryn(at)gmail.com[/email])>; Bruce Quinn <coebq(at)yahoo.com ([email]coebq(at)yahoo.com[/email])>; Bruce Ray <raybrucea(at)aol.com ([email]raybrucea(at)aol.com[/email])>; Jason K <Githraine(at)yahoo.com ([email]Githraine(at)yahoo.com[/email])>; Nathan Deily <ndeily(at)yahoo.com ([email]ndeily(at)yahoo.com[/email])>; Samuel Smith <agenbite.lee(at)gmail.com ([email]agenbite.lee(at)gmail.com[/email])>; Steve Lytton <stevelytton(at)hotmail.com ([email]stevelytton(at)hotmail.com[/email])>
Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2008 12:13:49 PM
Subject: RE: DC138 Winter Of Our Discontent - Spring 2006 - Hard On Equipment


Ya know if you'd stop dropping your front line units maybe you could stop those huge empires in the west. I'm sure you'll keep going at me tho, the little guy with two measly fleets just trying to stay alive, and Cali/BC will keep expanding. But of course you prefer me as your enemy, you've made that clear.

guess I have swallowed my words eh Sims

I didn't know you used words. Based on the complete disconnect between what you've said this game and what you've ordered, I figured you were just speaking gibberish.

Fuck... Fuck.... Fuckitty Fuck Fuck Fuck!!!

…pretty much confirms that.




From: Rob Ackerley [mailto:rob_ackerley(at)yahoo.ca ([email]rob_ackerley(at)yahoo.ca[/email])]
Sent: Saturday, March 15, 2008 12:37 PM
To: Former Trout; dc138
Cc: Andrew Clarke; Andrew Tanner; Bruce Quinn; Bruce Ray; Jason K; Michael Sims ; Nathan Deily; Samuel Smith; Steve Lytton
Subject: Re: DC138 Winter Of Our Discontent - Spring 2006 - Hard On Equipment


Fucking coasts... Fucking internet troubles... Fuck... Fuck.... Fuckitty Fuck Fuck Fuck!!!

NY/BC joint victory proposed...

You Got luckly this time Sims... Net problems kept me from checking my orders thoroughly... Fucking 3rd world inter-fucking-net... anyways... guess I have swallowed my words eh Sims... Smile Hopefully, my stretch of 3 days without net will end today... too little too late for this game though...

Oh well... It doesn't matter much anyway....

----- Original Message ----
From: Former Trout <former.trout(at)gmail.com ([email]former.trout(at)gmail.com[/email])>
To: dc138 <DC138(at)diplomaticcorp.com ([email]DC138(at)diplomaticcorp.com[/email])>
Cc: Andrew Clarke <a_c_2bcool(at)hotmail.com ([email]a_c_2bcool(at)hotmail.com[/email])>; Andrew Tanner <damienthryn(at)gmail.com ([email]damienthryn(at)gmail.com[/email])>; Bruce Quinn <coebq(at)yahoo.com ([email]coebq(at)yahoo.com[/email])>; Bruce Ray <raybrucea(at)aol.com ([email]raybrucea(at)aol.com[/email])>; Jason K <Githraine(at)yahoo.com ([email]Githraine(at)yahoo.com[/email])>; Mike Sims <mike(at)southwall.com ([email]mike(at)southwall.com[/email])>; Nathan Deily < ndeily(at)yahoo.com ([email]ndeily(at)yahoo.com[/email]) >; Rob Ackerley <rob_ackerley(at)yahoo.ca ([email]rob_ackerley(at)yahoo.ca[/email])>; Samuel Smith <agenbite.lee(at)gmail.com ([email]agenbite.lee(at)gmail.com[/email])>; Steve Lytton <stevelytton(at)hotmail.com ([email]stevelytton(at)hotmail.com[/email])>
Sent: Friday, March 14, 2008 8:43:52 PM
Subject: DC138 Winter Of Our Discontent - Spring 2006 - Hard On Equipment

Our sage guru of all guru-ness plucks this from his Spring 2006 Fortune Cookie: You will soon be more aware of your growing awareness.

Course, we're all aware of hind-sight. Mexico puts on an eye-patch and peg-leg, moving into Carribean waters. New York continues to struggle against the wrath of the previously-stabbed and the weather channels split in disagreement over the coming Canadian cold front or Sunny Californian glow...

One retreat required after all of that - the New York fleet in the Gulf of St Lawrence finds itself finding a new port. Either Newfoundland or Quebec , the American sailors will soon find themselves in a land with strange-speaking people. Deadline for the Summer 2006 retreat will be set for Sunday, March 16th (11:59 PM GMT).

Cheers all. Please just let me know if you spot any mistakes.

Trout
DC-138
A Diplomaticcorp Game
Fall of the American Empire 4 Variant
Game Started:





Current Turn:
Spring 2006

Next Deadline:
Summer 2006 Retreats
Sunday, March 16th (11:59 PM GMT)



The Rowdy Cast

British Columbia
Andrew Tanner
damienthryn AT gmail DOT com
California
Bruce Ray
Raybrucea AT aol DOT com
Cuba
Jason K.
Githraine AT yahoo DOT com
Florida
Lee Moore
agenbite DOT lee AT gmail DOT com
Heartland
Andy Ski
a_c_2bcool AT hotmail DOT com
Mexico
Bruce Quinn
coebq AT yahoo DOT com
New York
Rob Ackerley
rob_ackerley AT yahoo DOT ca
Peru
Alex Schmidt
wecanworkthisout AT yahoo DOT com
Quebec
Mike Sims
mike AT southwall DOT com
Texas
Nathan Deily
nedily AT yahoo DOT com



Humble GM:
Former Trout
former DOT trout AT gmail DOT com




CURRENT SEASON:



SPRING 2006 ORDERS:



BRITISH COLUMBIA :

F MPO H
OK
F Van - Anc
OK
F Anc - ARO
OK
F Gre - NAO
[BOUNCE with NAO 1:1]
F SOL s ( Quebec ) F NSC - GSL
OK
A Min s (HL) A Chi-Mil
VOID (No Such Order)
A Won s (HL) A Ont
OK
A Man - Non
OK
A Non - Abi
OK
A Mon - Bea
OK


CALIFORNIA :

North Pacific - WCO (West Coast?)
OK
Baja - Gulf of California
[BOUNCE with GUA 1:1]
Oklahoma - Missouri
OK
Kansas s Oklahoma - Missouri
OK
Nebraska s Oklahoma - Missouri
OK
San Antonio - Houston
[BOUNCE with HOU 2:2]
Dallas s San Antonio - Houston
OK
West Texas s Dallas
OK
New Mexico s Dallas
OK
Arizona - Colorado
OK


CUBA :

A Bogota - Vichada
OK
F Cali (nc) - South Caribbean Sea
[BOUNCE with WES 1:1]
F East Caribbean Sea - Venezuela
OK


FLORIDA :

A Hou holds
OK
A in Lou supports A in Hou holding
OK
A Ark holds
OK
A Ten supports A Ark holding
OK
A Dos supports A Ark Holding
OK
A Geo supports A Ten supporting A Ark
OK
A Hav to Cam
OK
F Mia to Sof
OK
F Sof to GoM
OK
F Kin to ECS
OK
F Les supports F Kin to ECS
OK
F WeS to Scs
[BOUNCE with CAL 1:1]


HEARTLAND:

A Chicago - Indiana
[BOUNCE with IND 1:1]
A Milwaukee - Upper Peninsula
[BOUNCE with MIC 1:1]
A Missouri - Kentucky
OK
A Ontario Supports A Montreal
VOID (Unit Ordered To Move)


MEXICO :

A Pot - Mex
OK
F Gua - GCa
[BOUNCE with BAJ 1:1]
F Ver - GoC
OK
F Gut - CoM
OK
F GoF - CoB
OK
A Nic holds
OK
A Yuc holds
OK
A NLe holds
OK
F Pan - GMo
OK
F Lima - Gal
OK


NEW YORK :

A Beauce - Gaspesie
OK
F Gulf of St-Lawrence - New Brunswick (sc)
VOID [DISLODGED by NSC 2:1]
A Indiana Supports A Tennessee - Kentucky
[CUT by CHI]
F Massachusetts Bay Supports F Gulf of St-Lawrence - New Brunswick (sc)
VOID
A Michigan - Upper Peninsula
[BOUNCE with MIL 1:1]
F North Atlantic Ocean - Nova Scotia
[BOUNCE with NBR 1:1]
A New York State - Ontario
[BOUNCE with ONT 1:2]


QUEBEC :

F NSc-GSL
OK
F NBr/nc-NSc
[BOUNCE with NAO 1:1]


SUMMER 2006 RETREATS:

New York F Gulf of St-Lawrence may retreat to Nfl, Lab, Cot, Que or OTB





UNIT / SUPPLY CENTER BREAKDOWN

------------------------------



BRITISH COLUMBIA :

10 Supply Centers - Anc, Van, Cgy, Was, Haw,

Man, Min, Ung, Gre, Mon

5 Armies - Min, Bea, Abi, Won, Non

5 Fleets - Mpo, Sol, Gre, Aro, Anc



CALIFORNIA :

10 Supply Centers - Sfr, Los, Sdi, Ore , Ari , Col ,

Chh , Kan , San, Dal

8 Armies - Mis, Dal, Wte, San, Kan , Neb , Nme , Col

2 Fleets - Baj, Wco



CUBA :

3 Supply Centers - Ven , Cal , Bog

1 Army - Vic

2 Fleets - Cal(nc), Ven



FLORIDA :

12 Supply Centers - Jac, Tam, Mia, Ten, Geo, Nca,

Lou, Hou, Hol, Dom, Hav, Kin

7 Armies - Ten, Hou , Ark , Lou, Cam , Geo, Dso

5 Fleets - Les, Wcs, Ecs, Gom, Sof



HEARTLAND:

4 Supply Centers - Mil, Mis, Chi, Ont

4 Armies - Chi, Ont, Ken, Mil

0 Fleets -



MEXICO :

10 Supply Centers - Gua, Mex, Ver, Gut, Dur, Nle,

Nic, Lim, Pan, Yuc

4 Armies - Nic, Mex, Nle, Yuc

6 Fleets - Cob, Gal, Gmo, Com, Goc, Gua



NEW YORK :

7 Supply Centers - Nyc, Nje, Phi, Mas, Ohi, Wdc,

Mic

4 Armies - Bea, Mic, Ind , Nys

3 Fleets - Mab, [Gsl], Nao



QUEBEC :

2 Supply Centers - Que, Nsc

0 Armies -

2 Fleets - Gsl, Nbr(nc)





TEXAS - ELIMINATED 2004



PERU - ELIMINATED 2005




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DC138 Winter Of Our Discontent - Spring 2006 - Har... - FuzzyLogic   (Mar 19, 2008, 1:23 pm)
Ya know if you’d stop dropping your front line units maybe you could stop those huge empires in the west. I’m sure you’ll keep going at me tho, the little guy with two measly fleets just trying to stay alive, and Cali/BC will keep expanding. But of course you prefer me as your enemy, you’ve made that clear.

guess I have swallowed my words eh Sims

I didn’t know you used words. Based on the complete disconnect between what you’ve said this game and what you’ve ordered, I figured you were just speaking gibberish.

Fuck... Fuck.... Fuckitty Fuck Fuck Fuck!!!

…pretty much confirms that.




From: Rob Ackerley [mailto:rob_ackerley(at)yahoo.ca]
Sent: Saturday, March 15, 2008 12:37 PM
To: Former Trout; dc138
Cc: Andrew Clarke; Andrew Tanner; Bruce Quinn; Bruce Ray; Jason K; Michael Sims; Nathan Deily; Samuel Smith; Steve Lytton
Subject: Re: DC138 Winter Of Our Discontent - Spring 2006 - Hard On Equipment


Fucking coasts... Fucking internet troubles... Fuck... Fuck.... Fuckitty Fuck Fuck Fuck!!!

NY/BC joint victory proposed...

You Got luckly this time Sims... Net problems kept me from checking my orders thoroughly... Fucking 3rd world inter-fucking-net... anyways... guess I have swallowed my words eh Sims... Smile Hopefully, my stretch of 3 days without net will end today... too little too late for this game though...

Oh well... It doesn't matter much anyway....

----- Original Message ----
From: Former Trout <former.trout(at)gmail.com>
To: dc138 <DC138(at)diplomaticcorp.com>
Cc: Andrew Clarke <a_c_2bcool(at)hotmail.com>; Andrew Tanner <damienthryn(at)gmail.com>; Bruce Quinn <coebq(at)yahoo.com>; Bruce Ray <raybrucea(at)aol.com>; Jason K <Githraine(at)yahoo.com>; Mike Sims <mike(at)southwall.com>; Nathan Deily <ndeily(at)yahoo.com>; Rob Ackerley <rob_ackerley(at)yahoo.ca>; Samuel Smith <agenbite.lee(at)gmail.com>; Steve Lytton <stevelytton(at)hotmail.com>
Sent: Friday, March 14, 2008 8:43:52 PM
Subject: DC138 Winter Of Our Discontent - Spring 2006 - Hard On Equipment

Our sage guru of all guru-ness plucks this from his Spring 2006 Fortune Cookie: You will soon be more aware of your growing awareness.

Course, we're all aware of hind-sight. Mexico puts on an eye-patch and peg-leg, moving into Carribean waters. New York continues to struggle against the wrath of the previously-stabbed and the weather channels split in disagreement over the coming Canadian cold front or Sunny Californian glow...

One retreat required after all of that - the New York fleet in the Gulf of St Lawrence finds itself finding a new port. Either Newfoundland or Quebec, the American sailors will soon find themselves in a land with strange-speaking people. Deadline for the Summer 2006 retreat will be set for Sunday, March 16th (11:59 PM GMT).

Cheers all. Please just let me know if you spot any mistakes.

Trout
DC-138
A Diplomaticcorp Game
Fall of the American Empire 4 Variant
Game Started:





Current Turn:
Spring 2006

Next Deadline:
Summer 2006 Retreats
Sunday, March 16th (11:59 PM GMT)



The Rowdy Cast

British Columbia
Andrew Tanner
damienthryn AT gmail DOT com
California
Bruce Ray
Raybrucea AT aol DOT com
Cuba
Jason K.
Githraine AT yahoo DOT com
Florida
Lee Moore
agenbite DOT lee AT gmail DOT com
Heartland
Andy Ski
a_c_2bcool AT hotmail DOT com
Mexico
Bruce Quinn
coebq AT yahoo DOT com
New York
Rob Ackerley
rob_ackerley AT yahoo DOT ca
Peru
Alex Schmidt
wecanworkthisout AT yahoo DOT com
Quebec
Mike Sims
mike AT southwall DOT com
Texas
Nathan Deily
nedily AT yahoo DOT com



Humble GM:
Former Trout
former DOT trout AT gmail DOT com




CURRENT SEASON:



SPRING 2006 ORDERS:



BRITISH COLUMBIA:

F MPO H
OK
F Van - Anc
OK
F Anc - ARO
OK
F Gre - NAO
[BOUNCE with NAO 1:1]
F SOL s (Quebec) F NSC - GSL
OK
A Min s (HL) A Chi-Mil
VOID (No Such Order)
A Won s (HL) A Ont
OK
A Man - Non
OK
A Non - Abi
OK
A Mon - Bea
OK


CALIFORNIA:

North Pacific - WCO (West Coast?)
OK
Baja - Gulf of California
[BOUNCE with GUA 1:1]
Oklahoma - Missouri
OK
Kansas s Oklahoma - Missouri
OK
Nebraska s Oklahoma - Missouri
OK
San Antonio - Houston
[BOUNCE with HOU 2:2]
Dallas s San Antonio - Houston
OK
West Texas s Dallas
OK
New Mexico s Dallas
OK
Arizona - Colorado
OK


CUBA:

A Bogota - Vichada
OK
F Cali(nc) - South Caribbean Sea
[BOUNCE with WES 1:1]
F East Caribbean Sea - Venezuela
OK


FLORIDA:

A Hou holds
OK
A in Lou supports A in Hou holding
OK
A Ark holds
OK
A Ten supports A Ark holding
OK
A Dos supports A Ark Holding
OK
A Geo supports A Ten supporting A Ark
OK
A Hav to Cam
OK
F Mia to Sof
OK
F Sof to GoM
OK
F Kin to ECS
OK
F Les supports F Kin to ECS
OK
F WeS to Scs
[BOUNCE with CAL 1:1]


HEARTLAND:

A Chicago - Indiana
[BOUNCE with IND 1:1]
A Milwaukee - Upper Peninsula
[BOUNCE with MIC 1:1]
A Missouri - Kentucky
OK
A Ontario Supports A Montreal
VOID (Unit Ordered To Move)


MEXICO:

A Pot - Mex
OK
F Gua - GCa
[BOUNCE with BAJ 1:1]
F Ver - GoC
OK
F Gut - CoM
OK
F GoF - CoB
OK
A Nic holds
OK
A Yuc holds
OK
A NLe holds
OK
F Pan - GMo
OK
F Lima - Gal
OK


NEW YORK:

A Beauce - Gaspesie
OK
F Gulf of St-Lawrence - New Brunswick(sc)
VOID [DISLODGED by NSC 2:1]
A Indiana Supports A Tennessee - Kentucky
[CUT by CHI]
F Massachusetts Bay Supports F Gulf of St-Lawrence - New Brunswick(sc)
VOID
A Michigan - Upper Peninsula
[BOUNCE with MIL 1:1]
F North Atlantic Ocean - Nova Scotia
[BOUNCE with NBR 1:1]
A New York State - Ontario
[BOUNCE with ONT 1:2]


QUEBEC:

F NSc-GSL
OK
F NBr/nc-NSc
[BOUNCE with NAO 1:1]


SUMMER 2006 RETREATS:

New York F Gulf of St-Lawrence may retreat to Nfl, Lab, Cot, Que or OTB





UNIT / SUPPLY CENTER BREAKDOWN

------------------------------



BRITISH COLUMBIA:

10 Supply Centers - Anc, Van, Cgy, Was, Haw,

Man, Min, Ung, Gre, Mon

5 Armies - Min, Bea, Abi, Won, Non

5 Fleets - Mpo, Sol, Gre, Aro, Anc



CALIFORNIA:

10 Supply Centers - Sfr, Los, Sdi, Ore, Ari, Col,

Chh, Kan, San, Dal

8 Armies - Mis, Dal, Wte, San, Kan, Neb, Nme, Col

2 Fleets - Baj, Wco



CUBA:

3 Supply Centers - Ven, Cal, Bog

1 Army - Vic

2 Fleets - Cal(nc), Ven



FLORIDA:

12 Supply Centers - Jac, Tam, Mia, Ten, Geo, Nca,

Lou, Hou, Hol, Dom, Hav, Kin

7 Armies - Ten, Hou, Ark, Lou, Cam, Geo, Dso

5 Fleets - Les, Wcs, Ecs, Gom, Sof



HEARTLAND:

4 Supply Centers - Mil, Mis, Chi, Ont

4 Armies - Chi, Ont, Ken, Mil

0 Fleets -



MEXICO:

10 Supply Centers - Gua, Mex, Ver, Gut, Dur, Nle,

Nic, Lim, Pan, Yuc

4 Armies - Nic, Mex, Nle, Yuc

6 Fleets - Cob, Gal, Gmo, Com, Goc, Gua



NEW YORK:

7 Supply Centers - Nyc, Nje, Phi, Mas, Ohi, Wdc,

Mic

4 Armies - Bea, Mic, Ind, Nys

3 Fleets - Mab, [Gsl], Nao



QUEBEC:

2 Supply Centers - Que, Nsc

0 Armies -

2 Fleets - Gsl, Nbr(nc)





TEXAS - ELIMINATED 2004



PERU - ELIMINATED 2005




NEXT DEADLINE: SUMMER 2006 RETREATS DUE SUNDAY, MARCH 16TH (11:59 PM GMT)!!















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DC138 Winter Of Our Discontent - Spring 2006 - Hard On Equipment (dc138) roback80 Mar 19, 04:03 pm
Andrew,

firstly I think you are thinking of the wrong foolproof plan as our communication when HL fudged it wasminimal long before my "easily manipulated" statement. And the funny thing about your declaration of my statements further solidifies my statement regarding HL. If there is anyone on this board than can say without a doubt that HL has NOT been sporadic and flip flopping all game and show proof then I will resign... right I guess I play on...

And if you accurately read what I wrote - not interpret what you want and how it suits you best - you will clearly see, and I quote "unless BC and Cali crack or Mexico makes immediate moves to flex some naval muscle in the Pacific, then the game is over." If those things happen then yes there is much to play for. But last seasons moves show Mexico edging more and more into the Caribbean and shows only the faint and probably staged movement north of a lone Cali fleet.

So like i said, and again I quote "another season or two on the current course..." and there won't be much left to discuss.



----- Original Message ----
From: Andrew Tanner <damienthryn(at)gmail.com>
To: Rob Ackerley <rob_ackerley(at)yahoo.ca>
Cc: Michael Sims <mike(at)southwall.com>; Former Trout <former.trout(at)gmail.com>; dc138 <DC138(at)diplomaticcorp.com>; Andrew Clarke <a_c_2bcool(at)hotmail.com>; Bruce Quinn <coebq(at)yahoo.com>; Bruce Ray <raybrucea(at)aol.com>; Jason K <Githraine(at)yahoo.com>; Nathan Deily <ndeily(at)yahoo.com>; Samuel Smith <agenbite.lee(at)gmail.com>; Steve Lytton <stevelytton(at)hotmail.com>
Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2008 1:30:30 PM
Subject: Re: DC138 Winter Of Our Discontent - Spring 2006 - Hard On Equipment

Just to set the record straight Rob (in case you or anyone else is interested) - the HL 'fudge' of the foolproof plan came at least in part due to my instigation - I thought he might be interested to know that you thought of him as being (I quote) "easily manipulated" and passed along those words of yours.

I have to admit, once I found that you viewed your relationship with your allies as one of mere manipulation, I lost interest in any long term relationship with you, even if that meant risking HL and Quebec combining to hit me in the future.

Frankly I wonder why Florida still sticks by you, and how manipulable you think he is.

That all being said, I don't see how this game is at the point of being proposed as a BC/Cali draw, when there's an alive and powerful Mexico and Florida that could easily contest that draw. And nothing says Cali or Florida couldn't pursue a solo venture. There's a lot of game left, methinks, and I'm sure there's plenty of chance that I'll also enjoy the feeling of clinging to a last few provinces (Artic Pirates Ho!) at some point...

And I hope you'll enjoy that feeling as well, before the end.

Andrew

On Wed, Mar 19, 2008 at 12:08 PM, Rob Ackerley <rob_ackerley(at)yahoo.ca ([email]rob_ackerley(at)yahoo.ca[/email])> wrote:


Aw Sims... in this game there was no disconnect between my words and my orders to anyone until HL decided to fudge a foolproof (or so I thought) plan to take MON and QUE from you. And not since I sought retribtution for his actions has there been disconnect. Twice HL screwed me since (justifably) and for several turns BC has spoken great things towards peace in the NE, yet his rush of units to the region paint an entirely contrasting picture.

You're just mad and upset that you were jumped on first - before you got yourself established enough to turn on HL or I. I'm just mad because I had too much confidence in the compotence of HL. I put too much trust in BC when clearly he didn't deserve any, and at present you are just an extension of him.

The fact of the matter is HL will lose his centers before he gains anything significant from me. Your in a position to lose both your SC's this turn and surprisingly even after my misorder, I am not in terrible position in the short term.

In the long term, unless BC and Cali crack or Mexico makes immediate moves to flex some naval muscle in the Pacific, then the game is over. Not one to throw in the towel, but another season or two on the current course and our little love triangle in the NE will be a distant thought.

Rob


----- Original Message ----
From: Michael Sims <mike(at)southwall.com ([email]mike(at)southwall.com[/email])>
To: Rob Ackerley <rob_ackerley(at)yahoo.ca ([email]rob_ackerley(at)yahoo.ca[/email])>; Former Trout <former.trout(at)gmail.com ([email]former.trout(at)gmail.com[/email])>; dc138 <DC138(at)diplomaticcorp.com ([email]DC138(at)diplomaticcorp.com[/email])>
Cc: Andrew Clarke <a_c_2bcool(at)hotmail.com ([email]a_c_2bcool(at)hotmail.com[/email])>; Andrew Tanner <damienthryn(at)gmail.com ([email]damienthryn(at)gmail.com[/email])>; Bruce Quinn <coebq(at)yahoo.com ([email]coebq(at)yahoo.com[/email])>; Bruce Ray <raybrucea(at)aol.com ([email]raybrucea(at)aol.com[/email])>; Jason K <Githraine(at)yahoo.com ([email]Githraine(at)yahoo.com[/email])>; Nathan Deily <ndeily(at)yahoo.com ([email]ndeily(at)yahoo.com[/email])>; Samuel Smith <agenbite.lee(at)gmail.com ([email]agenbite.lee(at)gmail.com[/email])>; Steve Lytton <stevelytton(at)hotmail.com ([email]stevelytton(at)hotmail.com[/email])>
Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2008 12:13:49 PM
Subject: RE: DC138 Winter Of Our Discontent - Spring 2006 - Hard On Equipment


Ya know if you'd stop dropping your front line units maybe you could stop those huge empires in the west. I'm sure you'll keep going at me tho, the little guy with two measly fleets just trying to stay alive, and Cali/BC will keep expanding. But of course you prefer me as your enemy, you've made that clear.

guess I have swallowed my words eh Sims

I didn't know you used words. Based on the complete disconnect between what you've said this game and what you've ordered, I figured you were just speaking gibberish.

Fuck... Fuck.... Fuckitty Fuck Fuck Fuck!!!

…pretty much confirms that.




From: Rob Ackerley [mailto:rob_ackerley(at)yahoo.ca ([email]rob_ackerley(at)yahoo.ca[/email])]
Sent: Saturday, March 15, 2008 12:37 PM
To: Former Trout; dc138
Cc: Andrew Clarke; Andrew Tanner; Bruce Quinn; Bruce Ray; Jason K; Michael Sims ; Nathan Deily; Samuel Smith; Steve Lytton
Subject: Re: DC138 Winter Of Our Discontent - Spring 2006 - Hard On Equipment


Fucking coasts... Fucking internet troubles... Fuck... Fuck.... Fuckitty Fuck Fuck Fuck!!!

NY/BC joint victory proposed...

You Got luckly this time Sims... Net problems kept me from checking my orders thoroughly... Fucking 3rd world inter-fucking-net... anyways... guess I have swallowed my words eh Sims... Smile Hopefully, my stretch of 3 days without net will end today... too little too late for this game though...

Oh well... It doesn't matter much anyway....

----- Original Message ----
From: Former Trout <former.trout(at)gmail.com ([email]former.trout(at)gmail.com[/email])>
To: dc138 <DC138(at)diplomaticcorp.com ([email]DC138(at)diplomaticcorp.com[/email])>
Cc: Andrew Clarke <a_c_2bcool(at)hotmail.com ([email]a_c_2bcool(at)hotmail.com[/email])>; Andrew Tanner <damienthryn(at)gmail.com ([email]damienthryn(at)gmail.com[/email])>; Bruce Quinn <coebq(at)yahoo.com ([email]coebq(at)yahoo.com[/email])>; Bruce Ray <raybrucea(at)aol.com ([email]raybrucea(at)aol.com[/email])>; Jason K <Githraine(at)yahoo.com ([email]Githraine(at)yahoo.com[/email])>; Mike Sims <mike(at)southwall.com ([email]mike(at)southwall.com[/email])>; Nathan Deily < ndeily(at)yahoo.com ([email]ndeily(at)yahoo.com[/email]) >; Rob Ackerley <rob_ackerley(at)yahoo.ca ([email]rob_ackerley(at)yahoo.ca[/email])>; Samuel Smith <agenbite.lee(at)gmail.com ([email]agenbite.lee(at)gmail.com[/email])>; Steve Lytton <stevelytton(at)hotmail.com ([email]stevelytton(at)hotmail.com[/email])>
Sent: Friday, March 14, 2008 8:43:52 PM
Subject: DC138 Winter Of Our Discontent - Spring 2006 - Hard On Equipment

Our sage guru of all guru-ness plucks this from his Spring 2006 Fortune Cookie: You will soon be more aware of your growing awareness.

Course, we're all aware of hind-sight. Mexico puts on an eye-patch and peg-leg, moving into Carribean waters. New York continues to struggle against the wrath of the previously-stabbed and the weather channels split in disagreement over the coming Canadian cold front or Sunny Californian glow...

One retreat required after all of that - the New York fleet in the Gulf of St Lawrence finds itself finding a new port. Either Newfoundland or Quebec , the American sailors will soon find themselves in a land with strange-speaking people. Deadline for the Summer 2006 retreat will be set for Sunday, March 16th (11:59 PM GMT).

Cheers all. Please just let me know if you spot any mistakes.

Trout
DC-138
A Diplomaticcorp Game
Fall of the American Empire 4 Variant
Game Started:





Current Turn:
Spring 2006

Next Deadline:
Summer 2006 Retreats
Sunday, March 16th (11:59 PM GMT)



The Rowdy Cast

British Columbia
Andrew Tanner
damienthryn AT gmail DOT com
California
Bruce Ray
Raybrucea AT aol DOT com
Cuba
Jason K.
Githraine AT yahoo DOT com
Florida
Lee Moore
agenbite DOT lee AT gmail DOT com
Heartland
Andy Ski
a_c_2bcool AT hotmail DOT com
Mexico
Bruce Quinn
coebq AT yahoo DOT com
New York
Rob Ackerley
rob_ackerley AT yahoo DOT ca
Peru
Alex Schmidt
wecanworkthisout AT yahoo DOT com
Quebec
Mike Sims
mike AT southwall DOT com
Texas
Nathan Deily
nedily AT yahoo DOT com



Humble GM:
Former Trout
former DOT trout AT gmail DOT com




CURRENT SEASON:



SPRING 2006 ORDERS:



BRITISH COLUMBIA :

F MPO H
OK
F Van - Anc
OK
F Anc - ARO
OK
F Gre - NAO
[BOUNCE with NAO 1:1]
F SOL s ( Quebec ) F NSC - GSL
OK
A Min s (HL) A Chi-Mil
VOID (No Such Order)
A Won s (HL) A Ont
OK
A Man - Non
OK
A Non - Abi
OK
A Mon - Bea
OK


CALIFORNIA :

North Pacific - WCO (West Coast?)
OK
Baja - Gulf of California
[BOUNCE with GUA 1:1]
Oklahoma - Missouri
OK
Kansas s Oklahoma - Missouri
OK
Nebraska s Oklahoma - Missouri
OK
San Antonio - Houston
[BOUNCE with HOU 2:2]
Dallas s San Antonio - Houston
OK
West Texas s Dallas
OK
New Mexico s Dallas
OK
Arizona - Colorado
OK


CUBA :

A Bogota - Vichada
OK
F Cali (nc) - South Caribbean Sea
[BOUNCE with WES 1:1]
F East Caribbean Sea - Venezuela
OK


FLORIDA :

A Hou holds
OK
A in Lou supports A in Hou holding
OK
A Ark holds
OK
A Ten supports A Ark holding
OK
A Dos supports A Ark Holding
OK
A Geo supports A Ten supporting A Ark
OK
A Hav to Cam
OK
F Mia to Sof
OK
F Sof to GoM
OK
F Kin to ECS
OK
F Les supports F Kin to ECS
OK
F WeS to Scs
[BOUNCE with CAL 1:1]


HEARTLAND:

A Chicago - Indiana
[BOUNCE with IND 1:1]
A Milwaukee - Upper Peninsula
[BOUNCE with MIC 1:1]
A Missouri - Kentucky
OK
A Ontario Supports A Montreal
VOID (Unit Ordered To Move)


MEXICO :

A Pot - Mex
OK
F Gua - GCa
[BOUNCE with BAJ 1:1]
F Ver - GoC
OK
F Gut - CoM
OK
F GoF - CoB
OK
A Nic holds
OK
A Yuc holds
OK
A NLe holds
OK
F Pan - GMo
OK
F Lima - Gal
OK


NEW YORK :

A Beauce - Gaspesie
OK
F Gulf of St-Lawrence - New Brunswick (sc)
VOID [DISLODGED by NSC 2:1]
A Indiana Supports A Tennessee - Kentucky
[CUT by CHI]
F Massachusetts Bay Supports F Gulf of St-Lawrence - New Brunswick (sc)
VOID
A Michigan - Upper Peninsula
[BOUNCE with MIL 1:1]
F North Atlantic Ocean - Nova Scotia
[BOUNCE with NBR 1:1]
A New York State - Ontario
[BOUNCE with ONT 1:2]


QUEBEC :

F NSc-GSL
OK
F NBr/nc-NSc
[BOUNCE with NAO 1:1]


SUMMER 2006 RETREATS:

New York F Gulf of St-Lawrence may retreat to Nfl, Lab, Cot, Que or OTB





UNIT / SUPPLY CENTER BREAKDOWN

------------------------------



BRITISH COLUMBIA :

10 Supply Centers - Anc, Van, Cgy, Was, Haw,

Man, Min, Ung, Gre, Mon

5 Armies - Min, Bea, Abi, Won, Non

5 Fleets - Mpo, Sol, Gre, Aro, Anc



CALIFORNIA :

10 Supply Centers - Sfr, Los, Sdi, Ore , Ari , Col ,

Chh , Kan , San, Dal

8 Armies - Mis, Dal, Wte, San, Kan , Neb , Nme , Col

2 Fleets - Baj, Wco



CUBA :

3 Supply Centers - Ven , Cal , Bog

1 Army - Vic

2 Fleets - Cal(nc), Ven



FLORIDA :

12 Supply Centers - Jac, Tam, Mia, Ten, Geo, Nca,

Lou, Hou, Hol, Dom, Hav, Kin

7 Armies - Ten, Hou , Ark , Lou, Cam , Geo, Dso

5 Fleets - Les, Wcs, Ecs, Gom, Sof



HEARTLAND:

4 Supply Centers - Mil, Mis, Chi, Ont

4 Armies - Chi, Ont, Ken, Mil

0 Fleets -



MEXICO :

10 Supply Centers - Gua, Mex, Ver, Gut, Dur, Nle,

Nic, Lim, Pan, Yuc

4 Armies - Nic, Mex, Nle, Yuc

6 Fleets - Cob, Gal, Gmo, Com, Goc, Gua



NEW YORK :

7 Supply Centers - Nyc, Nje, Phi, Mas, Ohi, Wdc,

Mic

4 Armies - Bea, Mic, Ind , Nys

3 Fleets - Mab, [Gsl], Nao



QUEBEC :

2 Supply Centers - Que, Nsc

0 Armies -

2 Fleets - Gsl, Nbr(nc)





TEXAS - ELIMINATED 2004



PERU - ELIMINATED 2005




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DC138 Winter Of Our Discontent - Spring 2006 - Hard On Equipment (dc138) FuzzyLogic Mar 19, 05:44 pm
Ah yes - glad to have the expert here to declare what alliances can or cannot work. Shall I take notes? EGF or AIT can and do work in the standard game. In fact they are well-documented. But you say they can't so maybe 30 years of history and thousands of games were wrong. EGF (or in our case NHQ) alliances work if you make them work. If you discount any alliance as impossible, then you're simply playing with a smaller deck of options than the rest of the players. I will keep that in mind for future games! Perhaps you should consider that they dont work for you, cuz you think they dont work and so you preemptively break them. You also think that BC/Cali shouldn't work and one should stab the other, to the extent that you're whining that they should, yet it continues to work to your dismay.

They're simply choosing not to stab. Sorry. That probly hurts your eyes to read.

Now tell me who is handing the game over?

Oh, I don't think you alone caused the predicament that the whole northeast is in. However you were certainly an instigator in the happenings. I know that Heartland moved on me first, and I tried to work w the trio again after that, and then the two of you moved in, and I tried to work w HL yet again, and he still took a center on a retreat. But I chalk that up to inexperience, whereas I know you're a veteran who's supposedly been thru this before. I am pretty certain that without your prodding, if instead you and I had stood solid, HL would not have moved against us alone. As you put it, he probly could have been "manipulated" into sticking w us indefinitely, but you played that card to our destruction instead of our growth.

I'm guessing in dc136 you probly got hit from the other side, and so didnt have the chance to stab. No doubt if say Florida or Cuba had come up at you from the south, you'd have been all for our alliance. But when given the choice, well... it is a game of choices so we need not beat that one. Unfortunately there is no disputing that I gave both yourself and Heartland a huge effort to make this work, whereas your diploming was from the start of the alliance to get HL to stab me, since I outright told you I wouldn't stab him. That was truly my mistake in this game, when you asked me to stab Heartland so early, I should have realized you were playing that both ways, and Heartland wasn't as resistant to giving in.

What was the word... yes... perspective.
Or in your case, perspecttive.




From: Rob Ackerley [mailto:rob_ackerley(at)yahoo.ca]
Sent: Wed 3/19/2008 3:05 PM
To: Michael Sims; Former Trout; dc138
Cc: Andrew Clarke; Andrew Tanner; Bruce Quinn; Bruce Ray; Jason K; Nathan Deily; Samuel Smith; Steve Lytton
Subject: Re: DC138 Winter Of Our Discontent - Spring 2006 - Hard On Equipment


Sims,

All in the perspective of the wronged. I have played this game long enough to know that a geographic situation like ours would not sustain a long term, successful 3 way alliance. In the same way a E/G/F alliance or a T/I/A alliance in Vanilla Dip cannot last. A wise friend of my tought me this valuable piece of advise (occasionally the hard way) in some FTF games. An ally is no longer an ally if they have a shot at 2 or more SC's. And in 8 years of actively playing this game I have found that theory to be true 95% of the time. Sooner or later our borders would have ended up establishing that exact status.

If you want to see whether I am capable of being a solid and secure ally, look at DC136 where I have worked with Germany from the start to both of our benefit. Germany unfortunately made a wrong guess one turn that hurt him significantly and is just climbing back up from that with the trusted help of yours truly. So yes it can be done. But more often than not, it falls apart.

Lastly before you go blaming me for my choice of adjustments, I suggest you look more at HL and him vacating his line and cooperating with BC dispite my continued support and petitioning to ensure he did not lose MIS to Cali 3 years ago. So don't point the finger on me for the advance of Cali and BC. The line that fell apart which will open the door for them was and is HL. Period. so cus him out too while you are putting the blame on me handing the game over to them. I did my level best to restore peace and support HL and he chose to side with BC. Now tell me who is handing the game over?

Perspective.

Rob


----- Original Message ----
From: Michael Sims <mike(at)southwall.com>
To: Rob Ackerley <rob_ackerley(at)yahoo.ca>; Former Trout <former.trout(at)gmail.com>; dc138 <DC138(at)diplomaticcorp.com>
Cc: Andrew Clarke <a_c_2bcool(at)hotmail.com>; Andrew Tanner <damienthryn(at)gmail.com>; Bruce Quinn <coebq(at)yahoo.com>; Bruce Ray <raybrucea(at)aol.com>; Jason K <Githraine(at)yahoo.com>; Nathan Deily <ndeily(at)yahoo.com>; Samuel Smith <agenbite.lee(at)gmail.com>; Steve Lytton <stevelytton(at)hotmail.com>
Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2008 3:38:05 PM
Subject: RE: DC138 Winter Of Our Discontent - Spring 2006 - Hard On Equipment

Please refrain from declaring my moods. I am not mad, or upset. Rather I've been enjoying the game since you (Rob) devoted an empire 4 times my size to eliminating me, and you have nothing to show for it... and in fact lost 2 centers last round. You're so worried about BC rounding that corner or me living to say "hah" that you are conceding the center of America to California and BC so as to ensure my demise. That is in a way the ultimate compliment that you are giving up your own game to take mine.

However in the same breath, you're bitching about how Cali and BC wont stab each other, when you're bailing on the center of the map in favor of retaining an army in Gas is just handing them more centers and growth w/o having to stab the other. You are feeding the monster that you're complaining about, while getting very unlucky in the battles agaisnt me.

"You're just mad and upset that you were jumped on first - before you got yourself established enough to turn on HL or I."

I think Andrew's comments are right on, and this edifies them. For had you (and Heartland) not stabbed our trio, we would be in the 3 power positions, and everyone else on the map would be encouraging us to stab the other. See this is where your logic falls apart, for you ASSUME that an alliance wont work, and that someone will stab it. However we can see that if players stick to it, then it works. You didnt give ours a chance. You basically stabbed, admittedly so that I couldnt stab you first, and anyone who approaches an alliance like that, will find themselves often alliance-less, facing those who are stronger, urging them disappointedly to stab the other.

"Your in a position to lose both your SC's this turn "

Are you proud of this? You've spent your whole game trying to elim one player, I've survived way longer than I should have, and you're coming up on the short end of the alliance stick after our trio had the best opening possible in this game. Andrew would be toast if you hadn't turned, and Heartland and myself would now be beating on the door of California (sorry Ray!). However, yes, I am in a position to lose my SC's, so kudos to you for a great start well squandered. Smile





From: Rob Ackerley [mailto:rob_ackerley(at)yahoo.ca]
Sent: Wed 3/19/2008 12:08 PM
To: Michael Sims; Former Trout; dc138
Cc: Andrew Clarke; Andrew Tanner; Bruce Quinn; Bruce Ray; Jason K; Nathan Deily; Samuel Smith; Steve Lytton
Subject: Re: DC138 Winter Of Our Discontent - Spring 2006 - Hard On Equipment



Aw Sims... in this game there was no disconnect between my words and my orders to anyone until HL decided to fudge a foolproof (or so I thought) plan to take MON and QUE from you. And not since I sought retribtution for his actions has there been disconnect. Twice HL screwed me since (justifably) and for several turns BC has spoken great things towards peace in the NE, yet his rush of units to the region paint an entirely contrasting picture.

You're just mad and upset that you were jumped on first - before you got yourself established enough to turn on HL or I. I'm just mad because I had too much confidence in the compotence of HL. I put too much trust in BC when clearly he didn't deserve any, and at present you are just an extension of him.

The fact of the matter is HL will lose his centers before he gains anything significant from me. Your in a position to lose both your SC's this turn and surprisingly even after my misorder, I am not in terrible position in the short term.

In the long term, unless BC and Cali crack or Mexico makes immediate moves to flex some naval muscle in the Pacific, then the game is over. Not one to throw in the towel, but another season or two on the current course and our little love triangle in the NE will be a distant thought.

Rob

----- Original Message ----
From: Michael Sims <mike(at)southwall.com>
To: Rob Ackerley <rob_ackerley(at)yahoo.ca>; Former Trout <former.trout(at)gmail.com>; dc138 <DC138(at)diplomaticcorp.com>
Cc: Andrew Clarke <a_c_2bcool(at)hotmail.com>; Andrew Tanner <damienthryn(at)gmail.com>; Bruce Quinn <coebq(at)yahoo.com>; Bruce Ray <raybrucea(at)aol.com>; Jason K <Githraine(at)yahoo.com>; Nathan Deily <ndeily(at)yahoo.com>; Samuel Smith <agenbite.lee(at)gmail.com>; Steve Lytton <stevelytton(at)hotmail.com>
Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2008 12:13:49 PM
Subject: RE: DC138 Winter Of Our Discontent - Spring 2006 - Hard On Equipment


Ya know if you’d stop dropping your front line units maybe you could stop those huge empires in the west. I’m sure you’ll keep going at me tho, the little guy with two measly fleets just trying to stay alive, and Cali/BC will keep expanding. But of course you prefer me as your enemy, you’ve made that clear.

guess I have swallowed my words eh Sims

I didn’t know you used words. Based on the complete disconnect between what you’ve said this game and what you’ve ordered, I figured you were just speaking gibberish.

Fuck... Fuck.... Fuckitty Fuck Fuck Fuck!!!

…pretty much confirms that.




From: Rob Ackerley [mailto:rob_ackerley(at)yahoo.ca]
Sent: Saturday, March 15, 2008 12:37 PM
To: Former Trout; dc138
Cc: Andrew Clarke; Andrew Tanner; Bruce Quinn; Bruce Ray; Jason K; Michael Sims ; Nathan Deily; Samuel Smith; Steve Lytton
Subject: Re: DC138 Winter Of Our Discontent - Spring 2006 - Hard On Equipment


Fucking coasts... Fucking internet troubles... Fuck... Fuck.... Fuckitty Fuck Fuck Fuck!!!

NY/BC joint victory proposed...

You Got luckly this time Sims... Net problems kept me from checking my orders thoroughly... Fucking 3rd world inter-fucking-net... anyways... guess I have swallowed my words eh Sims... Smile Hopefully, my stretch of 3 days without net will end today... too little too late for this game though...

Oh well... It doesn't matter much anyway....

----- Original Message ----
From: Former Trout <former.trout(at)gmail.com>
To: dc138 <DC138(at)diplomaticcorp.com>
Cc: Andrew Clarke <a_c_2bcool(at)hotmail.com>; Andrew Tanner <damienthryn(at)gmail.com>; Bruce Quinn <coebq(at)yahoo.com>; Bruce Ray <raybrucea(at)aol.com>; Jason K <Githraine(at)yahoo.com>; Mike Sims <mike(at)southwall.com>; Nathan Deily < ndeily(at)yahoo.com >; Rob Ackerley <rob_ackerley(at)yahoo.ca>; Samuel Smith <agenbite.lee(at)gmail.com>; Steve Lytton <stevelytton(at)hotmail.com>
Sent: Friday, March 14, 2008 8:43:52 PM
Subject: DC138 Winter Of Our Discontent - Spring 2006 - Hard On Equipment

Our sage guru of all guru-ness plucks this from his Spring 2006 Fortune Cookie: You will soon be more aware of your growing awareness.

Course, we're all aware of hind-sight. Mexico puts on an eye-patch and peg-leg, moving into Carribean waters. New York continues to struggle against the wrath of the previously-stabbed and the weather channels split in disagreement over the coming Canadian cold front or Sunny Californian glow...

One retreat required after all of that - the New York fleet in the Gulf of St Lawrence finds itself finding a new port. Either Newfoundland or Quebec , the American sailors will soon find themselves in a land with strange-speaking people. Deadline for the Summer 2006 retreat will be set for Sunday, March 16th (11:59 PM GMT).

Cheers all. Please just let me know if you spot any mistakes.

Trout
DC-138
A Diplomaticcorp Game
Fall of the American Empire 4 Variant
Game Started:





Current Turn:
Spring 2006

Next Deadline:
Summer 2006 Retreats
Sunday, March 16th (11:59 PM GMT)



The Rowdy Cast

British Columbia
Andrew Tanner
damienthryn AT gmail DOT com
California
Bruce Ray
Raybrucea AT aol DOT com
Cuba
Jason K.
Githraine AT yahoo DOT com
Florida
Lee Moore
agenbite DOT lee AT gmail DOT com
Heartland
Andy Ski
a_c_2bcool AT hotmail DOT com
Mexico
Bruce Quinn
coebq AT yahoo DOT com
New York
Rob Ackerley
rob_ackerley AT yahoo DOT ca
Peru
Alex Schmidt
wecanworkthisout AT yahoo DOT com
Quebec
Mike Sims
mike AT southwall DOT com
Texas
Nathan Deily
nedily AT yahoo DOT com



Humble GM:
Former Trout
former DOT trout AT gmail DOT com




CURRENT SEASON:



SPRING 2006 ORDERS:



BRITISH COLUMBIA :

F MPO H
OK
F Van - Anc
OK
F Anc - ARO
OK
F Gre - NAO
[BOUNCE with NAO 1:1]
F SOL s ( Quebec ) F NSC - GSL
OK
A Min s (HL) A Chi-Mil
VOID (No Such Order)
A Won s (HL) A Ont
OK
A Man - Non
OK
A Non - Abi
OK
A Mon - Bea
OK


CALIFORNIA :

North Pacific - WCO (West Coast?)
OK
Baja - Gulf of California
[BOUNCE with GUA 1:1]
Oklahoma - Missouri
OK
Kansas s Oklahoma - Missouri
OK
Nebraska s Oklahoma - Missouri
OK
San Antonio - Houston
[BOUNCE with HOU 2:2]
Dallas s San Antonio - Houston
OK
West Texas s Dallas
OK
New Mexico s Dallas
OK
Arizona - Colorado
OK


CUBA :

A Bogota - Vichada
OK
F Cali (nc) - South Caribbean Sea
[BOUNCE with WES 1:1]
F East Caribbean Sea - Venezuela
OK


FLORIDA :

A Hou holds
OK
A in Lou supports A in Hou holding
OK
A Ark holds
OK
A Ten supports A Ark holding
OK
A Dos supports A Ark Holding
OK
A Geo supports A Ten supporting A Ark
OK
A Hav to Cam
OK
F Mia to Sof
OK
F Sof to GoM
OK
F Kin to ECS
OK
F Les supports F Kin to ECS
OK
F WeS to Scs
[BOUNCE with CAL 1:1]


HEARTLAND:

A Chicago - Indiana
[BOUNCE with IND 1:1]
A Milwaukee - Upper Peninsula
[BOUNCE with MIC 1:1]
A Missouri - Kentucky
OK
A Ontario Supports A Montreal
VOID (Unit Ordered To Move)


MEXICO :

A Pot - Mex
OK
F Gua - GCa
[BOUNCE with BAJ 1:1]
F Ver - GoC
OK
F Gut - CoM
OK
F GoF - CoB
OK
A Nic holds
OK
A Yuc holds
OK
A NLe holds
OK
F Pan - GMo
OK
F Lima - Gal
OK


NEW YORK :

A Beauce - Gaspesie
OK
F Gulf of St-Lawrence - New Brunswick (sc)
VOID [DISLODGED by NSC 2:1]
A Indiana Supports A Tennessee - Kentucky
[CUT by CHI]
F Massachusetts Bay Supports F Gulf of St-Lawrence - New Brunswick (sc)
VOID
A Michigan - Upper Peninsula
[BOUNCE with MIL 1:1]
F North Atlantic Ocean - Nova Scotia
[BOUNCE with NBR 1:1]
A New York State - Ontario
[BOUNCE with ONT 1:2]


QUEBEC :

F NSc-GSL
OK
F NBr/nc-NSc
[BOUNCE with NAO 1:1]


SUMMER 2006 RETREATS:

New York F Gulf of St-Lawrence may retreat to Nfl, Lab, Cot, Que or OTB





UNIT / SUPPLY CENTER BREAKDOWN

------------------------------



BRITISH COLUMBIA :

10 Supply Centers - Anc, Van, Cgy, Was, Haw,

Man, Min, Ung, Gre, Mon

5 Armies - Min, Bea, Abi, Won, Non

5 Fleets - Mpo, Sol, Gre, Aro, Anc



CALIFORNIA :

10 Supply Centers - Sfr, Los, Sdi, Ore , Ari , Col ,

Chh , Kan , San, Dal

8 Armies - Mis, Dal, Wte, San, Kan , Neb , Nme , Col

2 Fleets - Baj, Wco



CUBA :

3 Supply Centers - Ven , Cal , Bog

1 Army - Vic

2 Fleets - Cal(nc), Ven



FLORIDA :

12 Supply Centers - Jac, Tam, Mia, Ten, Geo, Nca,

Lou, Hou, Hol, Dom, Hav, Kin

7 Armies - Ten, Hou , Ark , Lou, Cam , Geo, Dso

5 Fleets - Les, Wcs, Ecs, Gom, Sof



HEARTLAND:

4 Supply Centers - Mil, Mis, Chi, Ont

4 Armies - Chi, Ont, Ken, Mil

0 Fleets -



MEXICO :

10 Supply Centers - Gua, Mex, Ver, Gut, Dur, Nle,

Nic, Lim, Pan, Yuc

4 Armies - Nic, Mex, Nle, Yuc

6 Fleets - Cob, Gal, Gmo, Com, Goc, Gua



NEW YORK :

7 Supply Centers - Nyc, Nje, Phi, Mas, Ohi, Wdc,

Mic

4 Armies - Bea, Mic, Ind , Nys

3 Fleets - Mab, [Gsl], Nao



QUEBEC :

2 Supply Centers - Que, Nsc

0 Armies -

2 Fleets - Gsl, Nbr(nc)





TEXAS - ELIMINATED 2004



PERU - ELIMINATED 2005




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DC138 Winter Of Our Discontent - Spring 2006 - Hard On Equipment (dc138) Raybrucea at aol.com Mar 17, 11:07 am
In a message dated 3/15/2008 3:37:24 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, rob_ackerley(at)yahoo.ca writes:

3rd world inter-fucking-net...



Only parts of New York qualify as third world. There are first world, second world and other world parts as well.



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DC138 Winter Of Our Discontent - Spring 2006 - Hard On Equipment (dc138) Raybrucea at aol.com Mar 20, 12:04 pm
In a message dated 3/19/2008 6:06:15 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, rob_ackerley(at)yahoo.ca writes:

In the same way a E/G/F alliance or a T/I/A alliance in Vanilla Dip cannot last.



On this I differ. I have successfully played both all game to a three way. Of course, not with Sims as a partner so if you are making a SPECIFIC argument in his case, I'll concede the point.

Ray



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dc163 Winter 1901 build results - davidellsworth   (Mar 19, 2008, 1:16 pm)
The winter brings an almost even mix of builds with 6 armies and 5 fleets.

Lets set the Spring 1902 due date for Wednesday 26 MARCH 2008 by 6pm EST.

Austria:
Build A Trieste

England:
Build F London
Build F Edinburgh

France:
Build A Paris
Build A Marseilles

Germany:
Build F Kiel
Build A Berlin

Italy:
Build F Naples

Russia:
Build A Warsaw
Build A Sevastopol

Turkey:
Build F Smyrna


DaveE
GameMaster dc163

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