| DC209 F08 STRANGE DAYS AHEAD - former.trout (Feb 09, 2009, 3:02 pm) |
I don't know if I buy that argument. I used the same map that the GM sent out and ordered to the same spot. Somehow I managed to get the correct abbreviation...
What exactly is the point of all[Reply] |
| DC209 F08 STRANGE DAYS AHEAD - FuzzyLogic (Feb 09, 2009, 2:31 pm) |
| I know you were, and it was amusing, and it does exemplify the fact that using an unrelated 3rd party app we'd be correct, but using the maps our gm sends out, we'd get misorders. (it was also nice to [Reply] |
| DC209 F08 STRANGE DAYS AHEAD - former.trout (Feb 09, 2009, 2:29 pm) |
Its not actually a debate. Whatever our opinions are, Michael made his ruling. =)
T.
On Mon, Feb 9, 2009 at 1:07 PM, Rob Ackerley <rob_ackerley(at)yahoo.ca ([email]rob_ackerley(at)yahoo.ca[/email])[Reply] |
| DC209 F08 STRANGE DAYS AHEAD - vegas_iwish (Feb 09, 2009, 2:16 pm) |
| A warning for Hed vs Med had come before. Malaysian sea looks the exact same as far as H vs M. This late in game there is no excuse to even put forward. Looking at & reading the map there is no ro [Reply] |
| DC209 F08 STRANGE DAYS AHEAD - roback80 (Feb 09, 2009, 2:07 pm) |
| I was just trying to interject some humour... I am torn and we all have probably been on both sides of choices like this... Sucks yes, but part of the game and part of the duty of the GM's who graciou [Reply] |
| DC209 F08 STRANGE DAYS AHEAD - FuzzyLogic (Feb 09, 2009, 2:04 pm) |
| So we need to rely on a 3rd-party program, which Michael does not send out the .dpy files for, instead of using the map he does send, which does have abbreviations on it which are supposedly to be acc [Reply] |
| DC209 F08 STRANGE DAYS AHEAD - roback80 (Feb 09, 2009, 1:52 pm) |
Cut and paste from RP  Saves all the problems and is a lot less work too!
From: MICHAEL BOUTOT <vegas_iwish(at)yahoo.com>
To: Form[Reply] |
| DC209 F08 STRANGE DAYS AHEAD - vegas_iwish (Feb 09, 2009, 1:50 pm) |
1 can clearly read Malacca Strait underneath the 3 letters in dispute. That alone makes it clear. The other earlier errors had the same conflict that should have raised a white flag.
--- On Mon,[Reply] |
| DC209 F08 STRANGE DAYS AHEAD - FuzzyLogic (Feb 09, 2009, 1:27 pm) |
| Yeah but you have to agree the map clearly looks like HST, or certainly could be read that way. I mean if we cant rely on the abbreviations on the map we're receiving from the GM, then what can we rel [Reply] |
| DC209 F08 STRANGE DAYS AHEAD - former.trout (Feb 09, 2009, 1:21 pm) |
| Personally I would allow the move as well. However, to be fair to Michael, he identified WAY early at the beginning of the game that he was going to be taking a strict interpretation of the abbreviati [Reply] |
| DC209 F08 STRANGE DAYS AHEAD - FuzzyLogic (Feb 09, 2009, 11:46 am) |
MST and HST look identical in that font. Why are we not allowing that move? It's not ambiguous, and the lettering could be read as either one.
-mike
From: Jason 47[Reply] |
| DC209 F08 STRANGE DAYS AHEAD - jason4747 (Feb 09, 2009, 11:36 am) |
Mike,
To be fair, MSt almost equals HSt on my screen, but it is no excuse for goegraphy stupidity on my part....
As for that and other error, kids, let it be a lesson to you - multitasking just[Reply] |
| DC209 F08 STRANGE DAYS AHEAD - vegas_iwish (Feb 06, 2009, 8:47 pm) |
| I didn't think I'd see days like these either. John Lennon. P was on the road away from map but it is I's moves which are the show. 1. Malacca Strait clearly can't be HST so not a reading the map issu [Reply] |
| DC209 F08 STRANGE DAYS AHEAD (dc209) jason4747 Feb 09, 11:36 am |
Mike,
To be fair, MSt almost equals HSt on my screen, but it is no excuse for goegraphy stupidity on my part....
As for that and other error, kids, let it be a lesson to you - multitasking just |
| DC209 F08 STRANGE DAYS AHEAD (dc209) FuzzyLogic Feb 09, 11:46 am |
MST and HST look identical in that font. Why are we not allowing that move? It's not ambiguous, and the lettering could be read as either one.
-mike
From: Jason 47 |
| DC209 F08 STRANGE DAYS AHEAD (dc209) former.trout Feb 09, 01:21 pm |
| Personally I would allow the move as well. However, to be fair to Michael, he identified WAY early at the beginning of the game that he was going to be taking a strict interpretation of the abbreviati |
| DC209 F08 STRANGE DAYS AHEAD (dc209) FuzzyLogic Feb 09, 01:27 pm |
| Yeah but you have to agree the map clearly looks like HST, or certainly could be read that way. I mean if we cant rely on the abbreviations on the map we're receiving from the GM, then what can we rel |
| DC209 F08 STRANGE DAYS AHEAD (dc209) vegas_iwish Feb 09, 01:50 pm |
1 can clearly read Malacca Strait underneath the 3 letters in dispute. That alone makes it clear. The other earlier errors had the same conflict that should have raised a white flag.
--- On Mon, |
| DC209 F08 STRANGE DAYS AHEAD (dc209) roback80 Feb 09, 01:52 pm |
Cut and paste from RP Saves all the problems and is a lot less work too!
From: MICHAEL BOUTOT <vegas_iwish(at)yahoo.com>
To: Form |
| DC209 F08 STRANGE DAYS AHEAD (dc209) FuzzyLogic Feb 09, 02:04 pm |
| So we need to rely on a 3rd-party program, which Michael does not send out the .dpy files for, instead of using the map he does send, which does have abbreviations on it which are supposedly to be acc |
| DC209 F08 STRANGE DAYS AHEAD (dc209) roback80 Feb 09, 02:07 pm |
| I was just trying to interject some humour... I am torn and we all have probably been on both sides of choices like this... Sucks yes, but part of the game and part of the duty of the GM's who graciou |
| DC209 F08 STRANGE DAYS AHEAD (dc209) vegas_iwish Feb 09, 02:16 pm |
| A warning for Hed vs Med had come before. Malaysian sea looks the exact same as far as H vs M. This late in game there is no excuse to even put forward. Looking at & reading the map there is no ro |
| DC209 F08 STRANGE DAYS AHEAD (dc209) former.trout Feb 09, 02:29 pm |
Its not actually a debate. Whatever our opinions are, Michael made his ruling. =)
T.
On Mon, Feb 9, 2009 at 1:07 PM, Rob Ackerley <rob_ackerley(at)yahoo.ca ([email]rob_ackerley(at)yahoo.ca[/email]) |
| DC209 F08 STRANGE DAYS AHEAD (dc209) FuzzyLogic Feb 09, 02:31 pm |
| I know you were, and it was amusing, and it does exemplify the fact that using an unrelated 3rd party app we'd be correct, but using the maps our gm sends out, we'd get misorders. (it was also nice to |
| DC209 F08 STRANGE DAYS AHEAD (dc209) former.trout Feb 09, 03:02 pm |
I don't know if I buy that argument. I used the same map that the GM sent out and ordered to the same spot. Somehow I managed to get the correct abbreviation...
What exactly is the point of all |
| DC209 F08 STRANGE DAYS AHEAD (dc209) FuzzyLogic Feb 09, 03:12 pm |
| Point? That a player wrote an order, using the letters printed on the map, which as best I can tell by actually looking at the map the M and the H are indistinguishable, yet it was misordered. The ord |
| DC209 F08 STRANGE DAYS AHEAD (dc209) former.trout Feb 09, 03:35 pm |
I'll ignore the inflammatory stuff in this email and just focus on the pertinent detail.
Michael uses the default DC house rules, according to the game page. Point 4 of those HRs - (which YOU h |
| DC209 F08 STRANGE DAYS AHEAD (dc209) FuzzyLogic Feb 09, 03:47 pm |
Are you serious??
The rule ALSO says:
The GM will accept all reasonable abbreviations. However if an order is unclear and not clarified by the deadline, the order will be declared void and the u |
| DC209 F08 STRANGE DAYS AHEAD (dc209) former.trout Feb 09, 04:08 pm |
What is 'reasonable' is defined by the GM. Not just in this game, but in any PBEM game. Obviously in this case, Michael (the GM) feels differently about it then you do.
Anyways, I apologize |
| DC209 F08 STRANGE DAYS AHEAD (dc209) FuzzyLogic Feb 09, 04:28 pm |
| That's fine, I dont really care it's just a game... and an inactive one where 2 players aren't even diploming at that. I only brought up the rule cuz you brought up a rule first. And the rule I brough |
| DC209 F08 STRANGE DAYS AHEAD (dc209) jason4747 Feb 11, 03:59 pm |
Mike and Mike,
I do appreciate your argument on my behalf - for what it's worth I agree, but, Vegas is kind enough to be the GM and what the GM says, goes.
I also have to agree that someone did |
| DC209 S08 HEY JUDE - SING A SAD SONG REDUX - vegas_iwish (Jan 29, 2009, 4:54 pm) |
| There was a problem with the RP file. I have fixed same so will not recur. Have been doing this long enough to go with my "feel" & I apologize for not doing so. Knew Rob had played poorl [Reply] |
| DC209 S08 HEY JUDE - SING A SAD SONG - vegas_iwish (Jan 29, 2009, 4:31 pm) |
| was a JDLR when I first saw results. actually was confused when showed no pop for you & had a jibe for your play I had to remove from results. A cursory look thereafter made me think I was wrong [Reply] |
| DC209 S08 HEY JUDE - SING A SAD SONG - roback80 (Jan 28, 2009, 8:07 pm) |
I think there error around SCS... doesn't do me any justice, but error regardless...
Philly
Man to SCS support by TAI, NPS and SSE (which was cut) Total of 3 on SCS
V'nam
SCS to MAN and GUZ t[Reply] |
| DC209 S08 HEY JUDE - SING A SAD SONG - vegas_iwish (Jan 28, 2009, 7:24 pm) |
| & make it be-e-tter. Hard to do that as Sing is lost. But then , lord, you've got to carry that weight a long time (yes I know that is a diff Beatles' tune - loosen up). Only optional ret is T's t [Reply] |
| DC209 S08 HEY JUDE - SING A SAD SONG (dc209) roback80 Jan 28, 08:07 pm |
I think there error around SCS... doesn't do me any justice, but error regardless...
Philly
Man to SCS support by TAI, NPS and SSE (which was cut) Total of 3 on SCS
V'nam
SCS to MAN and GUZ t |
| DC209 S08 HEY JUDE - SING A SAD SONG (dc209) vegas_iwish Jan 29, 04:31 pm |
| was a JDLR when I first saw results. actually was confused when showed no pop for you & had a jibe for your play I had to remove from results. A cursory look thereafter made me think I was wrong |
| DC209 W07 1/28/ 09 NEXT - vegas_iwish (Jan 22, 2009, 1:39 am) |
| Can also say have got the old DOS Battles of Napoleon going again (amazing depth & feel) + will be doing a WWI plane to plane game with 4 or 5 players soon somewhat like the 18th century ship game [Reply] |
| AWIATING FOR REPLY - kumsalamouhale at yaho... (Jan 21, 2009, 7:35 am) |
¡Tengo nueva dirección de correo!Ahora puedes escribirme a: kumsalamouhale(at)yahoo.com.mx
- Good Day, I am Mr.HalamouHale Kum, Secretary to the Senior Credit Offic[Reply] |
| DC209 A07 W07 TUES - vegas_iwish (Jan 19, 2009, 9:04 pm) |
Indonesia:
F Jav - Jak
Philippines:
F SCS - Man
Adjustments:
Australia: Supp 0 Unit 1 Remove 1
China: Supp 0 Unit 0 Build 0
Indonesia: Supp 8 Unit 7 Build 1
Malaysia: Sup[Reply] |
| DC209 F07 HOLES APPEAR - zeclient (Jan 19, 2009, 5:41 pm) |
Guys,
I apologize for the NMR, I thought I had sent orders in. It's really not my style to give up on the game (so I hope that is not the way you perceived the NMR). I want to say that I was glad I[Reply] |
| DC209 F07 HOLES APPEAR - vegas_iwish (Jan 17, 2009, 4:24 pm) |
| Had been a request for brief delay from someone who actually made it on time which confused me. Otherwise no word from the missing. 1 negative draw vote + an NMR(as that means no vote) means we go on. [Reply] |
| DC209 F07 HOLES APPEAR (dc209) zeclient Jan 19, 05:41 pm |
Guys,
I apologize for the NMR, I thought I had sent orders in. It's really not my style to give up on the game (so I hope that is not the way you perceived the NMR). I want to say that I was glad I |
| DC209 4 -WAY DRAW PROPOSED - vegas_iwish (Jan 08, 2009, 2:23 pm) |
| Malaysia would be excluded. Vote must be 100% for all those with scs. Incl vote with next moves. [Reply] |
| DC209 House Rules Updated - deathblade_penguin (Jan 07, 2009, 7:01 pm) |
Dear Players of Dc209
Just informing you that the Diplomaticcorp Default House Rules which are attached to this game, have been updated. There are No major changes but all players should take the t[Reply] |
| DC209 S07 WORTH THE WAIT? - vegas_iwish (Jan 07, 2009, 11:05 am) |
| Not so much. V loses ECS while T takes Klu. Australia has 1 more turn left. Must be a way of strengthening c & A in this 1 but that is for later. Malay can confirm or chaNge ret Thurs. 1/14/09 nex [Reply] |
