| DC 373: Maps and Nudge - AceRimmer (Sep 20, 2011, 8:37 am) |
| I'm attaching the retreat maps. If your name is Austria or Germany, you may wish to send adjustments asap. [Reply] |
| DC 373: Retreats - AceRimmer (Sep 19, 2011, 10:08 am) |
I don't have RP with me (so no maps), but:
French Army Brest retreats to Gascony
Russian Army Moscow retreats to St. Pete's
So... I need two Austrian builds and one German disband. Due tomorrow, please.[Reply] |
| DC 373: Update - AceRimmer (Sep 17, 2011, 11:15 am) |
It seems that Mark is still tangled up with other issues, because he has not yet sent a retreat. That's fine.
If you want to get a jump start on Winter adjustments, you can (though if you prefer to wait for retreats, I fully understand). Anyway, those adjustments are: two builds for Austria and maybe a disband for Germany.[Reply] |
| DC 373: Fall 1912 - AceRimmer (Sep 15, 2011, 9:45 am) |
The following is excerpted from the James Grout???s online Encyclop??dia Romana
(http://penelope.uchicago.edu/~grout/encyclopaedia_romana/calendar/romancalendar.html)
The text has to do with ???Years of Confusion??? and Julius Caesar???s role in ending them. It seemed thematically appropriate to non-events in Silesia this season. (The asterisks are mine)???
???According to Livy, it was Numa Pompilius, the second king of Rome (715-673 BC), who divided the year into twelve lunar months??? This was a lunar year of 354 days but, because of the Roman superstition about even numbers, an additional day was added to January to make the calendar 355 days long???
Twelve lunar months are shorter by about eleven days than the solar year (365 - 354). Without intercalating (inserting) these missing days, the calendar cannot keep a synchronicity with the seasons, as Suetonius observed, "Harvest festivals did not come in summer nor those of the vintage in the autumn???. Such was the disparity between the calendar of the Roman Republic and the solar year that, when a nearly total eclipse of the sun was observed in Rome on March 14 (190 BC), it was recorded as having taken place on July 11???
Nor did the college of pontiffs (from pontifex or "bridge maker" , who were responsible for regulating the calendar and the festivals that depended upon it, always intercalate the additional days necessary to synchronize the lunar and solar years. Intercalation was considered unlucky and, during the Second Punic War (218-201 BC), when Rome struggled against Carthage, the priests were hesitant to make any changes at all. Often, too, the calendar was manipulated more for partisan political consideration and vested interest than to adjust for the seasons. The tenure of an office holder could be extended or reduced, and legislation given more or less time before a vote. Bibulus, Caesar's co-consul in 59 BC, for example, attempted to thwart the legislation of his more powerful colleague by declaring all the remaining days of the year to be holidays so the assembly could not legally meet???
The pontifex maximus had to be in Rome during February to declare whether there would be an intercalation that year. But Julius Caesar, who had been elected chief priest in 63 BC, was preoccupied in Gaul and then with civil war, and there had been only one intercalation since he became proconsul???. When Caesar finally returned to Rome from the Egyptian campaign in 46 BC and was declared dictator, a *three-month discrepancy* existed between the seasons and their calendar date???
That year, a reformed calendar, based on the solar year, was introduced by Caesar??? the missing ninety days were intercalated, extending the ultimus annus confusionis, "the last year of confusion," as Macrobius calls it, to *445 days* and causing March 1 in the Republican calendar to fall on January 1, 45 BC in the new Julian calendar??????
Ah, yes, years of confusion. Not to mention uncommonly long adjudications. To be fair, Julius Caesar isn???t the best metaphor I could think of, but it???s topical, and that???s what matters. The better metaphor is an old Peanuts strip I remember (sorry, I can???t locate it on the interweb). It???s a baseball game, and a fly ball is hit. A couple of kids yell, ???I???ve got it!??? and then pandemonium ensues??? ???You???ve got???? ???He???s got it???? ???Who???s got it???? ???We???ve got it!!??? THUD. The ball falls to the ground uncaught.
Two Germans and an Austrian offer support into Silesia??? and a lone unsupported English army enters unopposed.
There is no peace.
There are two retreats due tomorrow.
French army Brest may retreat to Gascony, Paris, or OTB.
Russian army Moscow may retreat to Livonia, Saint Petersburg, or OTB.
The Winter will depend upon the retreats, especially whether Russia retreats to German-owned St. Pete???s. But as a foretaste, here???s the SC and unit counts:
Austria: Supp 10 , Unit 8 , Build 2
England: Supp 13 , Unit 13 , Build 0
France: Supp 6 , Unit 6 , Build 0
Germany: Supp 2 or 3 , Unit 3 Remove 1 or 0
Russia: Supp 2 or 3, Unit 2 , Build 0 or 1 (unusable)
In short, Austria builds two. Germany may have to disband one.
Fall 1912 Adjudication
Austria:
a ven-tyr
f adr-ven
f aeg-con
f smy s f aeg-con
a bul-ser
a rum s f bla-sev
a gal s a boh-sil (*Void*)
a vie s a gal
England:
F Bal - Ber
A Bel - Bur
F Ber - Kie
F Eng - Bre
A Hol - Ruh
F IRI - MAO (*Fails*)
F MAO - Wes (*Bounce*)
F NTH - Hol
F Pic S Eng - Bre
F Por - Spa(sc) (*Fails*)
A Pru - Sil
A Ukr - Mos
A War S Ukr ??? Mos
France:
Fleet Spain (sc) Support Fleet GoL Move To Western Med (*Cut*)
Army Marseilles Support Fleet Spain (sc)
Arm Brest HOLD (*Dislodged*)
Fleet Rome HOLD
Fleet Tunis Move To Ionian Sea
Fleet GoL Move To Western Med (*Bounce*)
Germany:
A Norway - Sweden
A Mun S Austrian A Gal-Sil (*Void*)
A Boh S Austrian A Gal-Sil (*Void*)
Russia:
Mos supports Bla to Sev (*Dislodged*)
Bla to Sev[Reply] |
| DC 373: Update - archimedes (Sep 14, 2011, 7:38 am) |
Everyone,
My apologies, as you all know I have not been talking to any of you, has been a week of chaos on my end. Adam gracisiouly allowed me to send in orders late but explained he would not grant an extension and why, which I am perfectly understanding of. Since he granted late orders without an extension I determined that meant I should not talk to anyone. I have sent my orders in this morning.
Again apologies to all.
Mark
[Reply] |
| DC 373: Update - AceRimmer (Sep 13, 2011, 9:01 pm) |
Missing one set of orders. The adjudication will probably have to wait until first-thing Thursday, but I expect to have orders in my box from everybody by Wednesday!
Reminder: vote on AEFG, AFG, EFG, DIAS.[Reply] |
| DC 373: Vote Nagging - AceRimmer (Sep 12, 2011, 8:37 pm) |
Just a reminder:
Orders due tomorrow (Tuesday)
Lots of votes alongside it... AEFG, AFG, EFG, DIAS. With that many draw opportunities, surely that game must end?[Reply] |
| DC 373: Additional Draw EGP - AceRimmer (Sep 06, 2011, 3:26 pm) |
Because we're so close to the last adjudication, I'll allow another Endgame Proposal:
AEFG
AFG
EFG and...
DIAS (everybody draws!)
Vote by next Tuesday.[Reply] |
| DC 373: Spring 1912 - AceRimmer (Sep 06, 2011, 12:48 pm) |
"O! that a man might know
The end of this day's business, ere it come;
But it sufficeth that the day will end,
And then the end is known."
- Act V, Scene 1
Now that the drama of the English stab is past, we have entered a time of repositioning and uncertainty. Units seem to be scrambling madly around the board trying to establish some semblance of battlelines. Fingers are being stuck into dikes, but the floodwaters press. Perhaps apropos of this discussion, England occupies Holland. Yet he loses Norway and Brest. Plus, Sevastopol is endangered. Meanwhile, skitterish French fleets rush to protect Rome and Tunis from unrealized attacks, while Austria supports Greece-Aegean. Frankly, I have no idea how all this ends. Just that it will end someday. And that sufficeth for me.
Actually, it could end next Tuesday. Three different draws have been offered:
AEFG
AFG
EFG
You know the drill: (1) submit your orders without votes; (2) wait for the GM to razz you to submit a vote, and (3) conspire among yourselves to make sure none of the proposals passes.
There is one retreat, an auto-retreat. German army Galicia retreats to Bohemia. Matt, you have 24 hours to switch to a disband if you are so inclined.
Fall 1912 is due next Tuesday.
Spring 1912 Adjudication
Austria:
f gre-aeg
f smy s f gre-aeg
a bul-rum (*Fails*)
a rum-ukr (*Fails*)
a vie s a bud-gal
a ven h
a bud-gal
f tri-adr
England:
F Bel - Pic
F Ber - Bal
A Edi - Hol
F Eng C Lon - Bel
F Kie - Ber
A Lon - Bel
F LVP - IRI
F NTH C Edi - Hol
F Por S Wes - MAO
A Pru - Sil (*Bounce*)
A Ukr S War (*Cut*)
A War S Pru - Sil (*Cut*)
F Wes ??? MAO
France:
Fleet North Africa Move To Tunis
Fleet Tyrhennian Sea Move To Rome
Fleet Spain (sc) Support Army Piedmont Move to Marsielles
Fleet GoL Support Fleet Spain (sc)
Army Piedmont Move To Marseilles
Army Picardy Move To Brest
Germany:
Boh - Mun
Gal - Sil (*Dislodged*)
StP ??? Norway
Russia:
Con- Bla
Mos-War (*Fails*)[Reply] |
| DC 373: Orders Due on Tuesday - AceRimmer (Sep 05, 2011, 11:43 pm) |
I hate to nudge you from your post-Labor Day slumber (yes, we Americans know how to celebrate the labor movement with all the sincerity that we usually muster for Independence Day, Memorial Day, Martin Luther King's Birthday... ah, perhaps that screed for Another Day...).
Anyway, point is -- orders due Tuesday a.m.[Reply] |
| DC 373: Winter 1911 Adjudication - AceRimmer (Aug 30, 2011, 9:53 am) |
I decree that we are going to take a languid season and adjudicate Spring 1912 next Tuesday at 10:00.
Winter 1911:
England says, "Oh, armies?! I've heard they're supposed to be useful. Well, I'll try anything once."
A Edinburgh
A London
F Liverpool
France disbands A Rome... much the way that Caesar -- while pursuing Pompey's armies -- packed up things in Italy and focused all his attentions in Spain.
Austria builds
F Trieste
A Vienna
For those of you at home, the score going into Spring 1912 is:
England 13
Austria 9
France 6
Germany 3
Russia 3[Reply] |
| DC 373: Fall 1911 Retreats - AceRimmer (Aug 27, 2011, 12:04 am) |
The English fleet retreats to Portugal.
The French army retreats to Picardy.
No maps until Tuesday! But I have the greatest confidence in all of you that you can still submit adjustments by Tuesday even without updated maps.
In case you've forgotten, here's the SC count:
Austria: Supp 9 Unit 6 Build 2
England: Supp 13 Unit 10 Build 3
France: Supp 6 Unit 7 Remove 1
Germany: Supp 3 Unit 3 Build 0
Russia: Supp 3 Unit 2 Build 0
(Yes, Italy is now officially eliminated)[Reply] |
| DC 373: Fall 1911 Adjudication - AceRimmer (Aug 25, 2011, 4:30 pm) |
No clever quotes today. But no quotes are really needed. The drama of the game is its own reward. Of course, the draw proposals fail. Nobody has been so optimistic as to propose any for the Spring.
The English solo bid takes multiple hits. Losses in Moscow, Rumania, Saint Petersburg, and Spain are only partly offset by gains in Berlin and Belgium (and probably Portugal). The disbanding of his Bulgarian army may stymie future Eastern gains. And the English fleet advanced into Western Mediterranean will probably not stay long. On the other hand, he still has multiple builds stockpiled from last year.
Meanwhile, Austria is resplendent! This will be a plus-three year (though his army in Budapest blocks a potential build). He has breathed new life with this latest turn of events.
Retreats (due tomorrow):
English Fleet Spain may retreat to Mid-Atlantic Ocean, Portugal, or OTB
French Army Belgium may retreat to Burgundy, Picardy, Ruhr, or OTB.
Assuming an English retreat to Portugal and a French non-OTB retreat , the adjustments then become as follows:
Austria: Supp 9 Unit 6 Build 2
England: Supp 13 Unit 10 Build 3
France: Supp 6 Unit 7 Remove 1
Germany: Supp 3 Unit 3 Build 0
Russia: Supp 3 Unit 2 Build 0
Fall 1911 Adjudication
Austria:
F Aeg - Greece
A Budapest S Army Rum
A Rum S A Serbia - Bulgaria
A Serbia - Bulgaria
F Smyrna Holds
A Venice Holds
England:
F Bal - Ber
A Bul H (*Disbanded*)
F Eng - Bel
F IRI - Eng
F Kie ??? Hol (*Bounce*)
F MAO - Wes
F NTH S Eng - Bel
A Pru S War - Sil
F Spa(sc) ??? Mar (*Dislodged*)
A Ukr ??? War (*Fails*)
A War ??? Sil (*Bounce*)
France:
Army Belgium Move To Holland (*Dislodged*)
Fleet Gulf of Lyon Support Fleet Western Med Move To Spain (sc)
Fleet Naples Move To Tyrhennian Sea
Army Piedmont Move To Marseilles (*Bounce*)
Army Rome HOLD
Fleet Tunis Move to North Africa
Fleet Western Med Move To - Spain (sc)
Germany:
A Boh Support Army Gal - Sil
A Gal ??? Sil (*Bounce*)
A Liv ??? StP
Russia:
F Con S Austrian A Serbia - Bulgaria
A Sev - Moscow[Reply] |
| DC 373: Deadline Tomorrow - AceRimmer (Aug 24, 2011, 1:13 pm) |
| Fall 1911 orders are due tomorrow. Don't forget to vote on EFG and AEFG draw proposals. [Reply] |
| DC 373: Spring 1911 Retreats - AceRimmer (Aug 19, 2011, 12:32 pm) |
"This was the most unkindest cut of all;
For when the noble Caesar saw him stab,
Ingratitude, more strong than traitors' arms,
Quite vanquished him: then burst his mighty heart;
And, in his mantle muffling up his face,
Even at the base of Pompey's statue,
Which all the while ran blood, great Caesar fell.
O! what a fall was there, my countrymen;
Then I, and you, and all of us fell down,
Whilst bloody treason flourished over us."
Italy has fallen and disbands his final unit. Ambition should be made of sterner stuff. [Technically, France could vacate Rome in the Fall, in which case Italy would resurrect. I've witnessed stranger things, but...].
Tom, please let me know if you would like to be removed from the DC 373 adjudication emails.
England retreats to Bulgaria (really, how often does that happen?)
Fall 1911 is due next Thursday, August 25, at 10:00 a.m. CST.[Reply] |
| DC 373: Spring 1911 Adjudication - AceRimmer (Aug 18, 2011, 4:24 pm) |
In a symbolically momentous moment of our game, Rome has been sacked. By the French, no less. In my imagination, different players have different reactions ???
France:
???Not that I loved Caesar less, but that I loved Rome more.??? (Shakespeare)
Italy:
???I had rather be a dog, and bay the moon,
Than such a Roman.??? (Shakespeare)
England:
"I would rather be first in a small village in Gaul than second in command in Rome" (Julius Caesar)
(Note on that last quote: in most citations, the words ???in Gaul??? are omitted; however, seeing as how England is the owner of a small village in Gaul and is currently in first; whereas France is in command of Rome and currently in second place, the quote as stands is just nigh perfect).
The end-game proposals fail, but have no fear, two more have been proposed. Please vote with your Fall orders:
EFG draw
AEFG draw
We have two retreats. The English army in Rumania auto-retreats to Bulgaria. The Italian army in Rome may retreat to Apulia, Tuscany, or off the board. Please submit that order no later than 2:00 p.m. CST tomorrow, Tom.
So, there you have it. An Italian retreat due tomorrow. The other details of the adjudication I leave to your prying and inquisitive minds.
Spring 1910 Adjudication
Austria:
a vie-bud
a bud-rum
a tri-ven
a ser s a bud-rum
f eme-smy
f aeg s f eme-smy
England:
F Bre - MAO
F Den - Bal
F Edi - NTH
F Kie ??? Hol (*Bounce*)
F Lon - Eng
F LVP - IRI
A Pru - Sil (*Bounce*)
A Rum ??? Gal (*Dislodged*)
A Sev - Ukr
F Spa(sc) - Mar (*Bounce*)
A War S Rum ??? Gal (*Cut*)
France:
Army Belgium - Holland (*Bounce*)
Army Piedmont - Marseilles (*Bounce*)
Army Venice - Rome
Fleet Tuscany - GoL
Fleet Tyrhennian Move to Western Med
Fleet Naples Support Army Venice - Rome
Fleet Ionian - Tunis
Germany:
A Gal S A Lvn-War (*Cut*)
A Lvn-War (*Fails*)
A Boh-Sil (*Bounce*)
Italy:
all units hold
A Rome Holds (*Dislodged*)
Russia:
Arm to Sev
Smy to Con[Reply] |
| DC 373: Reminder - AceRimmer (Aug 18, 2011, 8:49 am) |
Deadline in about an hour. I am still missing one set of orders. I have confirmed all orders received.
Also, there's two end-game proposals that need votes. EFG draw. English solo.
(Sorry about the lack of reminder yesterday, but I've just moved to a new home, and phone/internet service has not yet been established).[Reply] |
| DC 373: Fall 1910 Retreats - AceRimmer (Aug 12, 2011, 5:08 pm) |
Had a couple of late orders...
Apulia is a popular place. But since you cannot share, neither one of you gets it. Instead, the GM will keep it for himself. Yum, yum, yum, yum. Delicioso!
Austria:
A Galicia - Budapest
A Rumania - Serbia
A Venice - Apulia (*Bounce*)
Germany:
A Warsaw - Livonia
Italy:
F Naples - Apulia (*Bounce*)
So, that leaves us with:
Austria: Supp 6 Unit 6 Build 0
England: Supp 14 Unit 8 Build 3
France: Supp 7 Unit 7 Build 0
Germany: Supp 3 Unit 5 Remove 2
Italy: Supp 1 Unit 1 Build 0
Russia: Supp 3 Unit 2 Build 0
Having already received orders, I can adjudicate that, too:
Germany disband A Tyrolia and F Holland
England builds triple fleets
Spring 1911 will be due on Thursday.
There are *two* EOG proposals:
EFG draw
English solo
Please vote when you order.[Reply] |
| DC 373: Fall 1910 Adjudication - FlapJack (Aug 12, 2011, 12:28 pm) |
Austria changes retreats to:
A ven-apu
A gal-bud
A rum-ser
I will reserve judgement on our new alliance until I see it in action and Ven is returned to me forthwith....
It's far easier to forgive an enemy after you've got even with him.
Olin Miller[Reply] |
| DC 373: Fall 1910 Adjudication - archimedes (Aug 12, 2011, 7:46 am) |
I am sure Dirk is counting on the continued lack of orders coming in from AIR. If that were reversed his position is not solid enough to get the solo. England is actually short of fleets, we outnumber him there, and he needs them to his territory, so a quick fleet offensive by the combined resistance coming out of the Med could quickly nock him back on his heels. While that develops all we need to do is hold the line on the continent.
Matt,
I am in.
Mark
From: Matt O'Donnell <gizmo8204(at)yahoo.com>
To: Jack McHugh <jwmchughjr(at)gmail.com>; Adam Martin-Schwarze <smegdwarf(at)yahoo.com>
Cc: Tom Barrows <tom.barrows(at)gmail.com>; Jack Cope <jackcope(at)btinternet.com>; DC 373 <dc373(at)diplomaticcorp.com>; Mark Mizak <archimedeslives(at)yahoo.com>; Stephen Osellame <blomidonpark(at)yahoo.ca>
Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2011 11:16 PM
Subject: Re: DC 373: Fall 1910 Adjudication
Hey Jack, everyone,
I'm sure it was England holding up the EFG draw, considering. I can't say Dirk's stab was completely unexpected. Having looked at the board from his perspective, especially with the minimal role we crafted for him on this turn, I may have tried the same thing. Myself I considered sending out an e-mail, and/or making moves to prevent that type of betrayal. But it would have taken away from our joint effort against Austria. And (in my limited Dip experience), I've had the opposite problem that Dirk has - a tendency to go for the solo rather than stick with me allies. Anyway, Jack, if you are willing (and allowed) to take back your OTB retreats, I believe we can stop England from getting the solo and perhaps force a four-way draw.
So what I'm proposing is first a cessation of hostilities between Austria/France/Germany/Italy/Russia. If Russia wants to get back in the game, we might even be able to help him back into some of his home territory. Jack if you retreat Rumania to Bulgaria & Galicia to Ukraine, disbanding Venice, then in the Spring you could order Vienna-Budapest & Trieste-Serbia. This would protect you from further English aggression and allow you to take back Rumania in the Fall.
In the meantime France can move all his units west, and I'll move all my units north and west, back into Germany. I'll also retreat Warsaw-Livonia. This will should allow me to take St Petersburg in the Fall.
England will be able to take Portugal at some point, and likely will seize Berlin or Holland this turn. Unless one of us is working with Dirk, helping him towards the solo, then I'm sure we can stop him, force a draw.
How does that sound?
Matt
From: Jack McHugh <jwmchughjr(at)gmail.com>
To: Adam Martin-Schwarze <smegdwarf(at)yahoo.com>
Cc: Tom Barrows <tom.barrows(at)gmail.com>; Jack Cope <jackcope(at)btinternet.com>; DC 373 <dc373(at)diplomaticcorp.com>; Dirk Knemeyer <dirk(at)knemeyer.com>; Mark Mizak <archimedeslives(at)yahoo.com>; Matt O'Donnell <gizmo8204(at)yahoo.com>; Stephen Osellame <blomidonpark(at)yahoo.ca>
Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2011 2:18
PM
Subject: Re: DC 373: Fall 1910 Adjudication
i don't know who is holding up the draws but it ain't me..i voted yes to all the draws this turn...
It's far easier to forgive an enemy after you've got even with him.
Olin Miller
On Thu, Aug 11, 2011 at 2:04 PM, Jack McHugh <jwmchughjr(at)gmail.com> wrote:
Retreat all Austrian units OTB
It's far easier to forgive an enemy after you've got even with him.
Olin Miller
On Thu, Aug 11, 2011 at 2:00 PM, Adam Martin-Schwarze <smegdwarf(at)yahoo.com> wrote:
"If you must break the law, do it to seize power: in all other cases observe it."
- Julius Caesar
???Et tu, Brute!???
- The Tragedy of Julius Caesar, William Shakespeare
English units figuratively cross the Rubicon??? and literally cross the Guadalquivir and the Vilaine and the Elbe and the Stora and the Vistula and the Prut. It is a jolly good show. Quite, quite. Six units claim supply centers; the other two offer support. A Triumph is scheduled in Trafalgar Square for this Saturday, where a column with a statue of Lord Dirk will be erected in celebration.
Eastern Europe (Austria, Italy, and Russia) languidly emits a yawn. The units of all three nations hold.
Meanwhile, France and Germany continue to busy themselves with marching their units away from England.
With his gains in Naples and Venice, France will not need to disband this winter.
Oh, by the way, the draw proposal fails. But a new end-game proposal emerges:
???Ye gods, it doth amaze me,
A man of such a feeble temper should
So get the start of the majestic world,
And bear the palm alone.???
There is a proposal for an English solo. All votes will be due with the Spring orders next week.
Meanwhile, there are retreats. Lots of ???em.
Austrian Army Galicia may retreat to Budapest, Ukraine, or OTB
Austrian Army Rumania may retreat to Budapest, Bulgaria, Serbia, or OTB
Austrian Army Venice may retreat to Apulia or OTB
German Army Warsaw may retreat to Livonia, Silesia, Ukraine, or OTB
Italian Fleet Naples may retreat to Apulia or OTB
[Note that I am *not* auto-retreating Venice or Naples, as the only retreat available to both of them is Apulia??? you might want to negotiate
that].
Retreats are due tomorrow at 10:00 a.m. CST.
Then, there will be adjustments, which (before OTB retreats) stand as:
Austria: Supp 6 Unit 7 Remove 1
England: Supp 14 Unit 8 Build 3
France: Supp 7 Unit 7 Build 0
Germany: Supp 3 Unit 5 Remove 2
Italy: Supp 1 Unit 2 Remove 1
Russia: Supp 3 Unit 2 Build 0
So, as you can see, there???s lots to do for everybody except France and Russia.
Fall 1910 Adjudication
Austria:
all units hold
A Galicia Hold (*Dislodged*)
A Rumania Hold (*Dislodged*)
A Venice Hold (*Dislodged*)
England:
F Bal - Kie
F MAO - Bre
A Mos - War
F NTH - Den
A Pru S Mos - War
A Sev S Ukr - Rum
A Ukr - Rum
F Wes - Spa(sc)
France:
Army Belgium holds
Fleet Tyrhennian
Sea S Fleet Ionian Sea Move To Naples
Fleet Tuscany Move To Rome (*Fails*)
Fleet Ionian Sea Move To Naples
Fleet Tunis Move To Ionian Sea
Army Piedmont Support Army Tyrolia Move To Venice
Army Tyrolia Move To Venice
Germany:
A Silesia - Galicia
A Warsaw S A Silesia ??? Galicia (*Dislodged*)
A Boh S A Silesia - Galicia
F Hol HOLD
A Mun ??? Tyrolia
Italy:
all units hold
F Naples Hold (*Dislodged*)
Russia:
All remaining Russian forces to remain holding[Reply] |
| DC 373: Fall 1910 Adjudication - gizmo8204 (Aug 11, 2011, 10:16 pm) |
Hey Jack, everyone,
I'm sure it was England holding up the EFG draw, considering. I can't say Dirk's stab was completely unexpected. Having looked at the board from his perspective, especially with the minimal role we crafted for him on this turn, I may have tried the same thing. Myself I considered sending out an e-mail, and/or making moves to prevent that type of betrayal. But it would have taken away from our joint effort against Austria. And (in my limited Dip experience), I've had the opposite problem that Dirk has - a tendency to go for the solo rather than stick with me allies. Anyway, Jack, if you are willing (and allowed) to take back your OTB retreats, I believe we can stop England from getting the solo and perhaps force a four-way
draw.
So what I'm proposing is first a cessation of hostilities between Austria/France/Germany/Italy/Russia. If Russia wants to get back in the game, we might even be able to help him back into some of his home territory. Jack if you retreat Rumania to Bulgaria & Galicia to Ukraine, disbanding Venice, then in the Spring you could order Vienna-Budapest & Trieste-Serbia. This would protect you from further English aggression and allow you to take back Rumania in the Fall.
In the meantime France can move all his units west, and I'll move all my units north and west, back into Germany. I'll also retreat Warsaw-Livonia. This will should allow me to take St Petersburg in the Fall.
England will be able to take Portugal at some point, and likely will seize Berlin or Holland this turn. Unless one of
us is working with Dirk, helping him towards the solo, then I'm sure we can stop him, force a draw.
How does that sound?
Matt
From: Jack McHugh <jwmchughjr(at)gmail.com>
To: Adam Martin-Schwarze <smegdwarf(at)yahoo.com>
Cc: Tom Barrows <tom.barrows(at)gmail.com>; Jack Cope <jackcope(at)btinternet.com>; DC 373 <dc373(at)diplomaticcorp.com>; Dirk Knemeyer <dirk(at)knemeyer.com>; Mark Mizak <archimedeslives(at)yahoo.com>; Matt O'Donnell
<gizmo8204(at)yahoo.com>; Stephen Osellame <blomidonpark(at)yahoo.ca>
Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2011 2:18 PM
Subject: Re: DC 373: Fall 1910 Adjudication
i don't know who is holding up the draws but it ain't me..i voted yes to all the draws this turn...
It's far easier to forgive an enemy after you've got even with him.
Olin Miller
On Thu, Aug 11, 2011 at 2:04 PM, Jack McHugh <jwmchughjr(at)gmail.com> wrote:
Retreat all Austrian units OTB
It's far easier to forgive an enemy after you've got even with him.
Olin Miller
On Thu, Aug 11, 2011 at 2:00 PM, Adam Martin-Schwarze <smegdwarf(at)yahoo.com> wrote:
"If you must break the law, do it to seize power: in all other cases observe it."
- Julius Caesar
???Et tu, Brute!???
- The Tragedy of Julius Caesar, William Shakespeare
English units figuratively cross the Rubicon??? and literally cross the Guadalquivir and the Vilaine and the Elbe and the Stora and the Vistula and the Prut. It is a jolly good show. Quite, quite. Six units claim supply centers; the other two offer support. A Triumph is scheduled in Trafalgar Square for this Saturday, where a column with a statue of Lord Dirk will be erected in celebration.
Eastern Europe (Austria, Italy, and Russia) languidly emits a yawn. The units of all three nations hold.
Meanwhile, France and Germany continue to busy themselves with marching their units away from England. With his gains in Naples and Venice, France will not need to disband this winter.
Oh, by the way, the draw proposal fails. But a new end-game proposal emerges:
???Ye gods, it doth amaze me,
A man of such a feeble temper should
So get the start of the majestic world,
And bear the palm alone.???
There is a proposal for an English solo. All votes will be due with the Spring orders next week.
Meanwhile, there are retreats. Lots of ???em.
Austrian Army Galicia may retreat to Budapest, Ukraine, or OTB
Austrian Army Rumania may retreat to Budapest, Bulgaria, Serbia, or OTB
Austrian Army Venice may retreat to Apulia or OTB
German Army Warsaw may retreat to Livonia, Silesia, Ukraine, or OTB
Italian Fleet Naples may retreat to Apulia or OTB
[Note that I am *not* auto-retreating Venice or Naples, as the only retreat available to both of them is Apulia??? you might want to negotiate that].
Retreats are due tomorrow at 10:00 a.m. CST.
Then, there will be adjustments, which (before OTB retreats) stand as:
Austria: Supp 6 Unit 7 Remove 1
England: Supp 14 Unit 8 Build 3
France: Supp 7 Unit 7 Build 0
Germany: Supp 3 Unit 5 Remove 2
Italy: Supp 1 Unit 2 Remove 1
Russia: Supp 3 Unit 2 Build 0
So, as you can see, there???s lots to do for everybody except France and Russia.
Fall 1910 Adjudication
Austria:
all units hold
A Galicia Hold (*Dislodged*)
A Rumania Hold (*Dislodged*)
A Venice Hold (*Dislodged*)
England:
F Bal - Kie
F MAO - Bre
A Mos - War
F NTH - Den
A Pru S Mos - War
A Sev S Ukr - Rum
A Ukr - Rum
F Wes - Spa(sc)
France:
Army Belgium holds
Fleet Tyrhennian Sea S Fleet Ionian Sea Move To Naples
Fleet Tuscany Move To Rome (*Fails*)
Fleet Ionian Sea Move To Naples
Fleet Tunis Move To Ionian Sea
Army Piedmont Support Army Tyrolia Move To Venice
Army Tyrolia Move To Venice
Germany:
A Silesia - Galicia
A Warsaw S A Silesia ??? Galicia (*Dislodged*)
A Boh S A Silesia - Galicia
F Hol HOLD
A Mun ??? Tyrolia
Italy:
all units hold
F Naples Hold (*Dislodged*)
Russia:
All remaining Russian forces to remain holding[Reply] |
| DC 373: Fall 1910 Adjudication - FlapJack (Aug 11, 2011, 1:18 pm) |
[Reply] |
| DC 373: Fall 1910 Adjudication - FlapJack (Aug 11, 2011, 1:04 pm) |
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| DC 373: Fall 1910 Adjudication - AceRimmer (Aug 11, 2011, 1:00 pm) |
"If you must break the law, do it to seize power: in all other cases observe it."
- Julius Caesar
"Et tu, Brute!"
- The Tragedy of Julius Caesar, William Shakespeare
English units figuratively cross the Rubicon... and literally cross the Guadalquivir and the Vilaine and the Elbe and the Stora and the Vistula and the Prut. It is a jolly good show. Quite, quite. Six units claim supply centers; the other two offer support. A Triumph is scheduled in Trafalgar Square for this Saturday, where a column with a statue of Lord Dirk will be erected in celebration.
Eastern Europe (Austria, Italy, and Russia) languidly emits a yawn. The units of all three nations hold.
Meanwhile, France and Germany continue to busy themselves with marching their units away from England. With his gains in Naples and Venice, France will not need to disband this winter.
Oh, by the way, the draw proposal fails. But a new end-game proposal emerges:
"Ye gods, it doth amaze me,
A man of such a feeble temper should
So get the start of the majestic world,
And bear the palm alone."
There is a proposal for an English solo. All votes will be due with the Spring orders next week.
Meanwhile, there are retreats. Lots of ???em.
Austrian Army Galicia may retreat to Budapest, Ukraine, or OTB
Austrian Army Rumania may retreat to Budapest, Bulgaria, Serbia, or OTB
Austrian Army Venice may retreat to Apulia or OTB
German Army Warsaw may retreat to Livonia, Silesia, Ukraine, or OTB
Italian Fleet Naples may retreat to Apulia or OTB
[Note that I am *not* auto-retreating Venice or Naples, as the only retreat available to both of them is Apulia... you might want to negotiate that].
Retreats are due tomorrow at 10:00 a.m. CST.
Then, there will be adjustments, which (before OTB retreats) stand as:
Austria: Supp 6 Unit 7 Remove 1
England: Supp 14 Unit 8 Build 3
France: Supp 7 Unit 7 Build 0
Germany: Supp 3 Unit 5 Remove 2
Italy: Supp 1 Unit 2 Remove 1
Russia: Supp 3 Unit 2 Build 0
So, as you can see, there???s lots to do for everybody except France and Russia.
Fall 1910 Adjudication
Austria:
all units hold
A Galicia Hold (*Dislodged*)
A Rumania Hold (*Dislodged*)
A Venice Hold (*Dislodged*)
England:
F Bal - Kie
F MAO - Bre
A Mos - War
F NTH - Den
A Pru S Mos - War
A Sev S Ukr - Rum
A Ukr - Rum
F Wes - Spa(sc)
France:
Army Belgium holds
Fleet Tyrhennian Sea S Fleet Ionian Sea Move To Naples
Fleet Tuscany Move To Rome (*Fails*)
Fleet Ionian Sea Move To Naples
Fleet Tunis Move To Ionian Sea
Army Piedmont Support Army Tyrolia Move To Venice
Army Tyrolia Move To Venice
Germany:
A Silesia - Galicia
A Warsaw S A Silesia ??? Galicia (*Dislodged*)
A Boh S A Silesia - Galicia
F Hol HOLD
A Mun ??? Tyrolia
Italy:
all units hold
F Naples Hold (*Dislodged*)
Russia:
All remaining Russian forces to remain holding[Reply] |
| DC 373: Fall 1910 Adjudication (dc373) FlapJack Aug 11, 01:04 pm |
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| DC 373: Fall 1910 Adjudication (dc373) FlapJack Aug 11, 01:18 pm |
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| DC 373: Fall 1910 Adjudication (dc373) gizmo8204 Aug 11, 10:16 pm |
Hey Jack, everyone,
I'm sure it was England holding up the EFG draw, considering. I can't say Dirk's stab was completely unexpected. Having looked at the board from his perspective, especially with the minimal role we crafted for him on this turn, I may have tried the same thing. Myself I considered sending out an e-mail, and/or making moves to prevent that type of betrayal. But it would have taken away from our joint effort against Austria. And (in my limited Dip experience), I've had the opposite problem that Dirk has - a tendency to go for the solo rather than stick with me allies. Anyway, Jack, if you are willing (and allowed) to take back your OTB retreats, I believe we can stop England from getting the solo and perhaps force a four-way
draw.
So what I'm proposing is first a cessation of hostilities between Austria/France/Germany/Italy/Russia. If Russia wants to get back in the game, we might even be able to help him back into some of his home territory. Jack if you retreat Rumania to Bulgaria & Galicia to Ukraine, disbanding Venice, then in the Spring you could order Vienna-Budapest & Trieste-Serbia. This would protect you from further English aggression and allow you to take back Rumania in the Fall.
In the meantime France can move all his units west, and I'll move all my units north and west, back into Germany. I'll also retreat Warsaw-Livonia. This will should allow me to take St Petersburg in the Fall.
England will be able to take Portugal at some point, and likely will seize Berlin or Holland this turn. Unless one of
us is working with Dirk, helping him towards the solo, then I'm sure we can stop him, force a draw.
How does that sound?
Matt
From: Jack McHugh <jwmchughjr(at)gmail.com>
To: Adam Martin-Schwarze <smegdwarf(at)yahoo.com>
Cc: Tom Barrows <tom.barrows(at)gmail.com>; Jack Cope <jackcope(at)btinternet.com>; DC 373 <dc373(at)diplomaticcorp.com>; Dirk Knemeyer <dirk(at)knemeyer.com>; Mark Mizak <archimedeslives(at)yahoo.com>; Matt O'Donnell
<gizmo8204(at)yahoo.com>; Stephen Osellame <blomidonpark(at)yahoo.ca>
Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2011 2:18 PM
Subject: Re: DC 373: Fall 1910 Adjudication
i don't know who is holding up the draws but it ain't me..i voted yes to all the draws this turn...
It's far easier to forgive an enemy after you've got even with him.
Olin Miller
On Thu, Aug 11, 2011 at 2:04 PM, Jack McHugh <jwmchughjr(at)gmail.com> wrote:
Retreat all Austrian units OTB
It's far easier to forgive an enemy after you've got even with him.
Olin Miller
On Thu, Aug 11, 2011 at 2:00 PM, Adam Martin-Schwarze <smegdwarf(at)yahoo.com> wrote:
"If you must break the law, do it to seize power: in all other cases observe it."
- Julius Caesar
???Et tu, Brute!???
- The Tragedy of Julius Caesar, William Shakespeare
English units figuratively cross the Rubicon??? and literally cross the Guadalquivir and the Vilaine and the Elbe and the Stora and the Vistula and the Prut. It is a jolly good show. Quite, quite. Six units claim supply centers; the other two offer support. A Triumph is scheduled in Trafalgar Square for this Saturday, where a column with a statue of Lord Dirk will be erected in celebration.
Eastern Europe (Austria, Italy, and Russia) languidly emits a yawn. The units of all three nations hold.
Meanwhile, France and Germany continue to busy themselves with marching their units away from England. With his gains in Naples and Venice, France will not need to disband this winter.
Oh, by the way, the draw proposal fails. But a new end-game proposal emerges:
???Ye gods, it doth amaze me,
A man of such a feeble temper should
So get the start of the majestic world,
And bear the palm alone.???
There is a proposal for an English solo. All votes will be due with the Spring orders next week.
Meanwhile, there are retreats. Lots of ???em.
Austrian Army Galicia may retreat to Budapest, Ukraine, or OTB
Austrian Army Rumania may retreat to Budapest, Bulgaria, Serbia, or OTB
Austrian Army Venice may retreat to Apulia or OTB
German Army Warsaw may retreat to Livonia, Silesia, Ukraine, or OTB
Italian Fleet Naples may retreat to Apulia or OTB
[Note that I am *not* auto-retreating Venice or Naples, as the only retreat available to both of them is Apulia??? you might want to negotiate that].
Retreats are due tomorrow at 10:00 a.m. CST.
Then, there will be adjustments, which (before OTB retreats) stand as:
Austria: Supp 6 Unit 7 Remove 1
England: Supp 14 Unit 8 Build 3
France: Supp 7 Unit 7 Build 0
Germany: Supp 3 Unit 5 Remove 2
Italy: Supp 1 Unit 2 Remove 1
Russia: Supp 3 Unit 2 Build 0
So, as you can see, there???s lots to do for everybody except France and Russia.
Fall 1910 Adjudication
Austria:
all units hold
A Galicia Hold (*Dislodged*)
A Rumania Hold (*Dislodged*)
A Venice Hold (*Dislodged*)
England:
F Bal - Kie
F MAO - Bre
A Mos - War
F NTH - Den
A Pru S Mos - War
A Sev S Ukr - Rum
A Ukr - Rum
F Wes - Spa(sc)
France:
Army Belgium holds
Fleet Tyrhennian Sea S Fleet Ionian Sea Move To Naples
Fleet Tuscany Move To Rome (*Fails*)
Fleet Ionian Sea Move To Naples
Fleet Tunis Move To Ionian Sea
Army Piedmont Support Army Tyrolia Move To Venice
Army Tyrolia Move To Venice
Germany:
A Silesia - Galicia
A Warsaw S A Silesia ??? Galicia (*Dislodged*)
A Boh S A Silesia - Galicia
F Hol HOLD
A Mun ??? Tyrolia
Italy:
all units hold
F Naples Hold (*Dislodged*)
Russia:
All remaining Russian forces to remain holding |
| DC 373: Fall 1910 Adjudication (dc373) archimedes Aug 12, 07:46 am |
I am sure Dirk is counting on the continued lack of orders coming in from AIR. If that were reversed his position is not solid enough to get the solo. England is actually short of fleets, we outnumber him there, and he needs them to his territory, so a quick fleet offensive by the combined resistance coming out of the Med could quickly nock him back on his heels. While that develops all we need to do is hold the line on the continent.
Matt,
I am in.
Mark
From: Matt O'Donnell <gizmo8204(at)yahoo.com>
To: Jack McHugh <jwmchughjr(at)gmail.com>; Adam Martin-Schwarze <smegdwarf(at)yahoo.com>
Cc: Tom Barrows <tom.barrows(at)gmail.com>; Jack Cope <jackcope(at)btinternet.com>; DC 373 <dc373(at)diplomaticcorp.com>; Mark Mizak <archimedeslives(at)yahoo.com>; Stephen Osellame <blomidonpark(at)yahoo.ca>
Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2011 11:16 PM
Subject: Re: DC 373: Fall 1910 Adjudication
Hey Jack, everyone,
I'm sure it was England holding up the EFG draw, considering. I can't say Dirk's stab was completely unexpected. Having looked at the board from his perspective, especially with the minimal role we crafted for him on this turn, I may have tried the same thing. Myself I considered sending out an e-mail, and/or making moves to prevent that type of betrayal. But it would have taken away from our joint effort against Austria. And (in my limited Dip experience), I've had the opposite problem that Dirk has - a tendency to go for the solo rather than stick with me allies. Anyway, Jack, if you are willing (and allowed) to take back your OTB retreats, I believe we can stop England from getting the solo and perhaps force a four-way draw.
So what I'm proposing is first a cessation of hostilities between Austria/France/Germany/Italy/Russia. If Russia wants to get back in the game, we might even be able to help him back into some of his home territory. Jack if you retreat Rumania to Bulgaria & Galicia to Ukraine, disbanding Venice, then in the Spring you could order Vienna-Budapest & Trieste-Serbia. This would protect you from further English aggression and allow you to take back Rumania in the Fall.
In the meantime France can move all his units west, and I'll move all my units north and west, back into Germany. I'll also retreat Warsaw-Livonia. This will should allow me to take St Petersburg in the Fall.
England will be able to take Portugal at some point, and likely will seize Berlin or Holland this turn. Unless one of us is working with Dirk, helping him towards the solo, then I'm sure we can stop him, force a draw.
How does that sound?
Matt
From: Jack McHugh <jwmchughjr(at)gmail.com>
To: Adam Martin-Schwarze <smegdwarf(at)yahoo.com>
Cc: Tom Barrows <tom.barrows(at)gmail.com>; Jack Cope <jackcope(at)btinternet.com>; DC 373 <dc373(at)diplomaticcorp.com>; Dirk Knemeyer <dirk(at)knemeyer.com>; Mark Mizak <archimedeslives(at)yahoo.com>; Matt O'Donnell <gizmo8204(at)yahoo.com>; Stephen Osellame <blomidonpark(at)yahoo.ca>
Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2011 2:18
PM
Subject: Re: DC 373: Fall 1910 Adjudication
i don't know who is holding up the draws but it ain't me..i voted yes to all the draws this turn...
It's far easier to forgive an enemy after you've got even with him.
Olin Miller
On Thu, Aug 11, 2011 at 2:04 PM, Jack McHugh <jwmchughjr(at)gmail.com> wrote:
Retreat all Austrian units OTB
It's far easier to forgive an enemy after you've got even with him.
Olin Miller
On Thu, Aug 11, 2011 at 2:00 PM, Adam Martin-Schwarze <smegdwarf(at)yahoo.com> wrote:
"If you must break the law, do it to seize power: in all other cases observe it."
- Julius Caesar
???Et tu, Brute!???
- The Tragedy of Julius Caesar, William Shakespeare
English units figuratively cross the Rubicon??? and literally cross the Guadalquivir and the Vilaine and the Elbe and the Stora and the Vistula and the Prut. It is a jolly good show. Quite, quite. Six units claim supply centers; the other two offer support. A Triumph is scheduled in Trafalgar Square for this Saturday, where a column with a statue of Lord Dirk will be erected in celebration.
Eastern Europe (Austria, Italy, and Russia) languidly emits a yawn. The units of all three nations hold.
Meanwhile, France and Germany continue to busy themselves with marching their units away from England.
With his gains in Naples and Venice, France will not need to disband this winter.
Oh, by the way, the draw proposal fails. But a new end-game proposal emerges:
???Ye gods, it doth amaze me,
A man of such a feeble temper should
So get the start of the majestic world,
And bear the palm alone.???
There is a proposal for an English solo. All votes will be due with the Spring orders next week.
Meanwhile, there are retreats. Lots of ???em.
Austrian Army Galicia may retreat to Budapest, Ukraine, or OTB
Austrian Army Rumania may retreat to Budapest, Bulgaria, Serbia, or OTB
Austrian Army Venice may retreat to Apulia or OTB
German Army Warsaw may retreat to Livonia, Silesia, Ukraine, or OTB
Italian Fleet Naples may retreat to Apulia or OTB
[Note that I am *not* auto-retreating Venice or Naples, as the only retreat available to both of them is Apulia??? you might want to negotiate
that].
Retreats are due tomorrow at 10:00 a.m. CST.
Then, there will be adjustments, which (before OTB retreats) stand as:
Austria: Supp 6 Unit 7 Remove 1
England: Supp 14 Unit 8 Build 3
France: Supp 7 Unit 7 Build 0
Germany: Supp 3 Unit 5 Remove 2
Italy: Supp 1 Unit 2 Remove 1
Russia: Supp 3 Unit 2 Build 0
So, as you can see, there???s lots to do for everybody except France and Russia.
Fall 1910 Adjudication
Austria:
all units hold
A Galicia Hold (*Dislodged*)
A Rumania Hold (*Dislodged*)
A Venice Hold (*Dislodged*)
England:
F Bal - Kie
F MAO - Bre
A Mos - War
F NTH - Den
A Pru S Mos - War
A Sev S Ukr - Rum
A Ukr - Rum
F Wes - Spa(sc)
France:
Army Belgium holds
Fleet Tyrhennian
Sea S Fleet Ionian Sea Move To Naples
Fleet Tuscany Move To Rome (*Fails*)
Fleet Ionian Sea Move To Naples
Fleet Tunis Move To Ionian Sea
Army Piedmont Support Army Tyrolia Move To Venice
Army Tyrolia Move To Venice
Germany:
A Silesia - Galicia
A Warsaw S A Silesia ??? Galicia (*Dislodged*)
A Boh S A Silesia - Galicia
F Hol HOLD
A Mun ??? Tyrolia
Italy:
all units hold
F Naples Hold (*Dislodged*)
Russia:
All remaining Russian forces to remain holding |
| DC 373: Fall 1910 Adjudication (dc373) FlapJack Aug 12, 12:28 pm |
Austria changes retreats to:
A ven-apu
A gal-bud
A rum-ser
I will reserve judgement on our new alliance until I see it in action and Ven is returned to me forthwith....
It's far easier to forgive an enemy after you've got even with him.
Olin Miller |
| DC 373: Don't forget to vote - AceRimmer (Aug 10, 2011, 10:32 pm) |
| I forgot to vote last week in our special Local Option Sales Tax election. Fortunately, it didn't come back to bite me in the ass. I can't say the same about you and tomorrow's EFG-draw vote. [Reply] |
