| DC138 Winter Of Our Discontent - Fall 2006 - Famil... - Raybrucea at aol.com (Mar 24, 2008, 11:01 am) |
In a message dated 3/24/2008 11:36:22 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, rob_ackerley(at)yahoo.ca writes:
BC and Cali and Mexico have just been fortunate that the rest of our mistakes made their direction and gains so much easier of a choice.
Plus Cali is Loyal, Truthful and Brave. Cute too,
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| DC138 Winter Of Our Discontent - Fall 2006 - Famil... - Raybrucea at aol.com (Mar 24, 2008, 10:34 am) |
In a message dated 3/24/2008 11:13:30 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, mike(at)southwall.com writes:
But then I’d reference my previous post about getting a clue.
CLUES
Across
1. Caustic and cunning (4 letters)
5. See 1 across, AKA (4 letters)
9. Stabber and whiner (3 letters)
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| DC138 Winter Of Our Discontent - Fall 2006 - Famil... - Raybrucea at aol.com (Mar 24, 2008, 9:35 am) |
In a message dated 3/22/2008 1:17:45 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, mike(at)southwall.com writes:
to the very “growing giant(s)†he speaks of below,
Wait a minute. Isn't it Rob's ally Lee who remains the behemoth on the board thanks to Rob going off to stab his Quebec and Heartland allies and suffering for his lack of fealty?
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| DC138 Winter Of Our Discontent - Fall 2006 - Famil... - Raybrucea at aol.com (Mar 24, 2008, 9:32 am) |
In a message dated 3/22/2008 12:43:12 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, rob_ackerley(at)yahoo.ca writes:
Suddenly Mexicos dominance in the pacific has dissipated to the point where the 3 fleets of the Giant can sail a little more south and effectively shut of the Pacific to Mexico.
Yes, but why would we want to when the Mexican is so intent upon stifling the New Yorker?
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| DC138 Winter Of Our Discontent - Spring 2006 - Har... - Raybrucea at aol.com (Mar 20, 2008, 12:04 pm) |
In a message dated 3/19/2008 6:06:15 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, rob_ackerley(at)yahoo.ca writes:
In the same way a E/G/F alliance or a T/I/A alliance in Vanilla Dip cannot last.
On this I differ. I have successfully played both all game to a three way. Of course, not with Sims as a partner so if you are making a SPECIFIC argument in his case, I'll concede the point.
Ray
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| DC138 Winter Of Our Discontent - Spring 2006 - Har... - FuzzyLogic (Mar 19, 2008, 5:44 pm) |
Ah yes - glad to have the expert here to declare what alliances can or cannot work. Shall I take notes? EGF or AIT can and do work in the standard game. In fact they are well-documented. But you say they can't so maybe 30 years of history and thousands of games were wrong. EGF (or in our case NHQ) alliances work if you make them work. If you discount any alliance as impossible, then you're simply playing with a smaller deck of options than the rest of the players. I will keep that in mind for future games! Perhaps you should consider that they dont work for you, cuz you think they dont work and so you preemptively break them. You also think that BC/Cali shouldn't work and one should stab the other, to the extent that you're whining that they should, yet it continues to work to your dismay.
They're simply choosing not to stab. Sorry. That probly hurts your eyes to read.
Now tell me who is handing the game over?
Oh, I don't think you alone caused the predicament that the whole northeast is in. However you were certainly an instigator in the happenings. I know that Heartland moved on me first, and I tried to work w the trio again after that, and then the two of you moved in, and I tried to work w HL yet again, and he still took a center on a retreat. But I chalk that up to inexperience, whereas I know you're a veteran who's supposedly been thru this before. I am pretty certain that without your prodding, if instead you and I had stood solid, HL would not have moved against us alone. As you put it, he probly could have been "manipulated" into sticking w us indefinitely, but you played that card to our destruction instead of our growth.
I'm guessing in dc136 you probly got hit from the other side, and so didnt have the chance to stab. No doubt if say Florida or Cuba had come up at you from the south, you'd have been all for our alliance. But when given the choice, well... it is a game of choices so we need not beat that one. Unfortunately there is no disputing that I gave both yourself and Heartland a huge effort to make this work, whereas your diploming was from the start of the alliance to get HL to stab me, since I outright told you I wouldn't stab him. That was truly my mistake in this game, when you asked me to stab Heartland so early, I should have realized you were playing that both ways, and Heartland wasn't as resistant to giving in.
What was the word... yes... perspective.
Or in your case, perspecttive.
From: Rob Ackerley [mailto:rob_ackerley(at)yahoo.ca]
Sent: Wed 3/19/2008 3:05 PM
To: Michael Sims; Former Trout; dc138
Cc: Andrew Clarke; Andrew Tanner; Bruce Quinn; Bruce Ray; Jason K; Nathan Deily; Samuel Smith; Steve Lytton
Subject: Re: DC138 Winter Of Our Discontent - Spring 2006 - Hard On Equipment
Sims,
All in the perspective of the wronged. I have played this game long enough to know that a geographic situation like ours would not sustain a long term, successful 3 way alliance. In the same way a E/G/F alliance or a T/I/A alliance in Vanilla Dip cannot last. A wise friend of my tought me this valuable piece of advise (occasionally the hard way) in some FTF games. An ally is no longer an ally if they have a shot at 2 or more SC's. And in 8 years of actively playing this game I have found that theory to be true 95% of the time. Sooner or later our borders would have ended up establishing that exact status.
If you want to see whether I am capable of being a solid and secure ally, look at DC136 where I have worked with Germany from the start to both of our benefit. Germany unfortunately made a wrong guess one turn that hurt him significantly and is just climbing back up from that with the trusted help of yours truly. So yes it can be done. But more often than not, it falls apart.
Lastly before you go blaming me for my choice of adjustments, I suggest you look more at HL and him vacating his line and cooperating with BC dispite my continued support and petitioning to ensure he did not lose MIS to Cali 3 years ago. So don't point the finger on me for the advance of Cali and BC. The line that fell apart which will open the door for them was and is HL. Period. so cus him out too while you are putting the blame on me handing the game over to them. I did my level best to restore peace and support HL and he chose to side with BC. Now tell me who is handing the game over?
Perspective.
Rob
----- Original Message ----
From: Michael Sims <mike(at)southwall.com>
To: Rob Ackerley <rob_ackerley(at)yahoo.ca>; Former Trout <former.trout(at)gmail.com>; dc138 <DC138(at)diplomaticcorp.com>
Cc: Andrew Clarke <a_c_2bcool(at)hotmail.com>; Andrew Tanner <damienthryn(at)gmail.com>; Bruce Quinn <coebq(at)yahoo.com>; Bruce Ray <raybrucea(at)aol.com>; Jason K <Githraine(at)yahoo.com>; Nathan Deily <ndeily(at)yahoo.com>; Samuel Smith <agenbite.lee(at)gmail.com>; Steve Lytton <stevelytton(at)hotmail.com>
Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2008 3:38:05 PM
Subject: RE: DC138 Winter Of Our Discontent - Spring 2006 - Hard On Equipment
Please refrain from declaring my moods. I am not mad, or upset. Rather I've been enjoying the game since you (Rob) devoted an empire 4 times my size to eliminating me, and you have nothing to show for it... and in fact lost 2 centers last round. You're so worried about BC rounding that corner or me living to say "hah" that you are conceding the center of America to California and BC so as to ensure my demise. That is in a way the ultimate compliment that you are giving up your own game to take mine.
However in the same breath, you're bitching about how Cali and BC wont stab each other, when you're bailing on the center of the map in favor of retaining an army in Gas is just handing them more centers and growth w/o having to stab the other. You are feeding the monster that you're complaining about, while getting very unlucky in the battles agaisnt me.
"You're just mad and upset that you were jumped on first - before you got yourself established enough to turn on HL or I."
I think Andrew's comments are right on, and this edifies them. For had you (and Heartland) not stabbed our trio, we would be in the 3 power positions, and everyone else on the map would be encouraging us to stab the other. See this is where your logic falls apart, for you ASSUME that an alliance wont work, and that someone will stab it. However we can see that if players stick to it, then it works. You didnt give ours a chance. You basically stabbed, admittedly so that I couldnt stab you first, and anyone who approaches an alliance like that, will find themselves often alliance-less, facing those who are stronger, urging them disappointedly to stab the other.
"Your in a position to lose both your SC's this turn "
Are you proud of this? You've spent your whole game trying to elim one player, I've survived way longer than I should have, and you're coming up on the short end of the alliance stick after our trio had the best opening possible in this game. Andrew would be toast if you hadn't turned, and Heartland and myself would now be beating on the door of California (sorry Ray!). However, yes, I am in a position to lose my SC's, so kudos to you for a great start well squandered. 
From: Rob Ackerley [mailto:rob_ackerley(at)yahoo.ca]
Sent: Wed 3/19/2008 12:08 PM
To: Michael Sims; Former Trout; dc138
Cc: Andrew Clarke; Andrew Tanner; Bruce Quinn; Bruce Ray; Jason K; Nathan Deily; Samuel Smith; Steve Lytton
Subject: Re: DC138 Winter Of Our Discontent - Spring 2006 - Hard On Equipment
Aw Sims... in this game there was no disconnect between my words and my orders to anyone until HL decided to fudge a foolproof (or so I thought) plan to take MON and QUE from you. And not since I sought retribtution for his actions has there been disconnect. Twice HL screwed me since (justifably) and for several turns BC has spoken great things towards peace in the NE, yet his rush of units to the region paint an entirely contrasting picture.
You're just mad and upset that you were jumped on first - before you got yourself established enough to turn on HL or I. I'm just mad because I had too much confidence in the compotence of HL. I put too much trust in BC when clearly he didn't deserve any, and at present you are just an extension of him.
The fact of the matter is HL will lose his centers before he gains anything significant from me. Your in a position to lose both your SC's this turn and surprisingly even after my misorder, I am not in terrible position in the short term.
In the long term, unless BC and Cali crack or Mexico makes immediate moves to flex some naval muscle in the Pacific, then the game is over. Not one to throw in the towel, but another season or two on the current course and our little love triangle in the NE will be a distant thought.
Rob
----- Original Message ----
From: Michael Sims <mike(at)southwall.com>
To: Rob Ackerley <rob_ackerley(at)yahoo.ca>; Former Trout <former.trout(at)gmail.com>; dc138 <DC138(at)diplomaticcorp.com>
Cc: Andrew Clarke <a_c_2bcool(at)hotmail.com>; Andrew Tanner <damienthryn(at)gmail.com>; Bruce Quinn <coebq(at)yahoo.com>; Bruce Ray <raybrucea(at)aol.com>; Jason K <Githraine(at)yahoo.com>; Nathan Deily <ndeily(at)yahoo.com>; Samuel Smith <agenbite.lee(at)gmail.com>; Steve Lytton <stevelytton(at)hotmail.com>
Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2008 12:13:49 PM
Subject: RE: DC138 Winter Of Our Discontent - Spring 2006 - Hard On Equipment
Ya know if you’d stop dropping your front line units maybe you could stop those huge empires in the west. I’m sure you’ll keep going at me tho, the little guy with two measly fleets just trying to stay alive, and Cali/BC will keep expanding. But of course you prefer me as your enemy, you’ve made that clear.
guess I have swallowed my words eh Sims
I didn’t know you used words. Based on the complete disconnect between what you’ve said this game and what you’ve ordered, I figured you were just speaking gibberish.
Fuck... Fuck.... Fuckitty Fuck Fuck Fuck!!!
…pretty much confirms that.
From: Rob Ackerley [mailto:rob_ackerley(at)yahoo.ca]
Sent: Saturday, March 15, 2008 12:37 PM
To: Former Trout; dc138
Cc: Andrew Clarke; Andrew Tanner; Bruce Quinn; Bruce Ray; Jason K; Michael Sims ; Nathan Deily; Samuel Smith; Steve Lytton
Subject: Re: DC138 Winter Of Our Discontent - Spring 2006 - Hard On Equipment
Fucking coasts... Fucking internet troubles... Fuck... Fuck.... Fuckitty Fuck Fuck Fuck!!!
NY/BC joint victory proposed...
You Got luckly this time Sims... Net problems kept me from checking my orders thoroughly... Fucking 3rd world inter-fucking-net... anyways... guess I have swallowed my words eh Sims... Hopefully, my stretch of 3 days without net will end today... too little too late for this game though...
Oh well... It doesn't matter much anyway....
----- Original Message ----
From: Former Trout <former.trout(at)gmail.com>
To: dc138 <DC138(at)diplomaticcorp.com>
Cc: Andrew Clarke <a_c_2bcool(at)hotmail.com>; Andrew Tanner <damienthryn(at)gmail.com>; Bruce Quinn <coebq(at)yahoo.com>; Bruce Ray <raybrucea(at)aol.com>; Jason K <Githraine(at)yahoo.com>; Mike Sims <mike(at)southwall.com>; Nathan Deily < ndeily(at)yahoo.com >; Rob Ackerley <rob_ackerley(at)yahoo.ca>; Samuel Smith <agenbite.lee(at)gmail.com>; Steve Lytton <stevelytton(at)hotmail.com>
Sent: Friday, March 14, 2008 8:43:52 PM
Subject: DC138 Winter Of Our Discontent - Spring 2006 - Hard On Equipment
Our sage guru of all guru-ness plucks this from his Spring 2006 Fortune Cookie: You will soon be more aware of your growing awareness.
Course, we're all aware of hind-sight. Mexico puts on an eye-patch and peg-leg, moving into Carribean waters. New York continues to struggle against the wrath of the previously-stabbed and the weather channels split in disagreement over the coming Canadian cold front or Sunny Californian glow...
One retreat required after all of that - the New York fleet in the Gulf of St Lawrence finds itself finding a new port. Either Newfoundland or Quebec , the American sailors will soon find themselves in a land with strange-speaking people. Deadline for the Summer 2006 retreat will be set for Sunday, March 16th (11:59 PM GMT).
Cheers all. Please just let me know if you spot any mistakes.
Trout
DC-138
A Diplomaticcorp Game
Fall of the American Empire 4 Variant
Game Started:
Current Turn:
Spring 2006
Next Deadline:
Summer 2006 Retreats
Sunday, March 16th (11:59 PM GMT)
The Rowdy Cast
British Columbia
Andrew Tanner
damienthryn AT gmail DOT com
California
Bruce Ray
Raybrucea AT aol DOT com
Cuba
Jason K.
Githraine AT yahoo DOT com
Florida
Lee Moore
agenbite DOT lee AT gmail DOT com
Heartland
Andy Ski
a_c_2bcool AT hotmail DOT com
Mexico
Bruce Quinn
coebq AT yahoo DOT com
New York
Rob Ackerley
rob_ackerley AT yahoo DOT ca
Peru
Alex Schmidt
wecanworkthisout AT yahoo DOT com
Quebec
Mike Sims
mike AT southwall DOT com
Texas
Nathan Deily
nedily AT yahoo DOT com
Humble GM:
Former Trout
former DOT trout AT gmail DOT com
CURRENT SEASON:
SPRING 2006 ORDERS:
BRITISH COLUMBIA :
F MPO H
OK
F Van - Anc
OK
F Anc - ARO
OK
F Gre - NAO
[BOUNCE with NAO 1:1]
F SOL s ( Quebec ) F NSC - GSL
OK
A Min s (HL) A Chi-Mil
VOID (No Such Order)
A Won s (HL) A Ont
OK
A Man - Non
OK
A Non - Abi
OK
A Mon - Bea
OK
CALIFORNIA :
North Pacific - WCO (West Coast?)
OK
Baja - Gulf of California
[BOUNCE with GUA 1:1]
Oklahoma - Missouri
OK
Kansas s Oklahoma - Missouri
OK
Nebraska s Oklahoma - Missouri
OK
San Antonio - Houston
[BOUNCE with HOU 2:2]
Dallas s San Antonio - Houston
OK
West Texas s Dallas
OK
New Mexico s Dallas
OK
Arizona - Colorado
OK
CUBA :
A Bogota - Vichada
OK
F Cali (nc) - South Caribbean Sea
[BOUNCE with WES 1:1]
F East Caribbean Sea - Venezuela
OK
FLORIDA :
A Hou holds
OK
A in Lou supports A in Hou holding
OK
A Ark holds
OK
A Ten supports A Ark holding
OK
A Dos supports A Ark Holding
OK
A Geo supports A Ten supporting A Ark
OK
A Hav to Cam
OK
F Mia to Sof
OK
F Sof to GoM
OK
F Kin to ECS
OK
F Les supports F Kin to ECS
OK
F WeS to Scs
[BOUNCE with CAL 1:1]
HEARTLAND:
A Chicago - Indiana
[BOUNCE with IND 1:1]
A Milwaukee - Upper Peninsula
[BOUNCE with MIC 1:1]
A Missouri - Kentucky
OK
A Ontario Supports A Montreal
VOID (Unit Ordered To Move)
MEXICO :
A Pot - Mex
OK
F Gua - GCa
[BOUNCE with BAJ 1:1]
F Ver - GoC
OK
F Gut - CoM
OK
F GoF - CoB
OK
A Nic holds
OK
A Yuc holds
OK
A NLe holds
OK
F Pan - GMo
OK
F Lima - Gal
OK
NEW YORK :
A Beauce - Gaspesie
OK
F Gulf of St-Lawrence - New Brunswick (sc)
VOID [DISLODGED by NSC 2:1]
A Indiana Supports A Tennessee - Kentucky
[CUT by CHI]
F Massachusetts Bay Supports F Gulf of St-Lawrence - New Brunswick (sc)
VOID
A Michigan - Upper Peninsula
[BOUNCE with MIL 1:1]
F North Atlantic Ocean - Nova Scotia
[BOUNCE with NBR 1:1]
A New York State - Ontario
[BOUNCE with ONT 1:2]
QUEBEC :
F NSc-GSL
OK
F NBr/nc-NSc
[BOUNCE with NAO 1:1]
SUMMER 2006 RETREATS:
New York F Gulf of St-Lawrence may retreat to Nfl, Lab, Cot, Que or OTB
UNIT / SUPPLY CENTER BREAKDOWN
------------------------------
BRITISH COLUMBIA :
10 Supply Centers - Anc, Van, Cgy, Was, Haw,
Man, Min, Ung, Gre, Mon
5 Armies - Min, Bea, Abi, Won, Non
5 Fleets - Mpo, Sol, Gre, Aro, Anc
CALIFORNIA :
10 Supply Centers - Sfr, Los, Sdi, Ore , Ari , Col ,
Chh , Kan , San, Dal
8 Armies - Mis, Dal, Wte, San, Kan , Neb , Nme , Col
2 Fleets - Baj, Wco
CUBA :
3 Supply Centers - Ven , Cal , Bog
1 Army - Vic
2 Fleets - Cal(nc), Ven
FLORIDA :
12 Supply Centers - Jac, Tam, Mia, Ten, Geo, Nca,
Lou, Hou, Hol, Dom, Hav, Kin
7 Armies - Ten, Hou , Ark , Lou, Cam , Geo, Dso
5 Fleets - Les, Wcs, Ecs, Gom, Sof
HEARTLAND:
4 Supply Centers - Mil, Mis, Chi, Ont
4 Armies - Chi, Ont, Ken, Mil
0 Fleets -
MEXICO :
10 Supply Centers - Gua, Mex, Ver, Gut, Dur, Nle,
Nic, Lim, Pan, Yuc
4 Armies - Nic, Mex, Nle, Yuc
6 Fleets - Cob, Gal, Gmo, Com, Goc, Gua
NEW YORK :
7 Supply Centers - Nyc, Nje, Phi, Mas, Ohi, Wdc,
Mic
4 Armies - Bea, Mic, Ind , Nys
3 Fleets - Mab, [Gsl], Nao
QUEBEC :
2 Supply Centers - Que, Nsc
0 Armies -
2 Fleets - Gsl, Nbr(nc)
TEXAS - ELIMINATED 2004
PERU - ELIMINATED 2005
NEXT DEADLINE: SUMMER 2006 RETREATS DUE SUNDAY, MARCH 16TH (11:59 PM GMT)!!
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| DC138 Winter Of Our Discontent - Spring 2006 - Har... - roback80 (Mar 19, 2008, 4:03 pm) |
Andrew,
firstly I think you are thinking of the wrong foolproof plan as our communication when HL fudged it wasminimal long before my "easily manipulated" statement. And the funny thing about your declaration of my statements further solidifies my statement regarding HL. If there is anyone on this board than can say without a doubt that HL has NOT been sporadic and flip flopping all game and show proof then I will resign... right I guess I play on...
And if you accurately read what I wrote - not interpret what you want and how it suits you best - you will clearly see, and I quote "unless BC and Cali crack or Mexico makes immediate moves to flex some naval muscle in the Pacific, then the game is over." If those things happen then yes there is much to play for. But last seasons moves show Mexico edging more and more into the Caribbean and shows only the faint and probably staged movement north of a lone Cali fleet.
So like i said, and again I quote "another season or two on the current course..." and there won't be much left to discuss.
----- Original Message ----
From: Andrew Tanner <damienthryn(at)gmail.com>
To: Rob Ackerley <rob_ackerley(at)yahoo.ca>
Cc: Michael Sims <mike(at)southwall.com>; Former Trout <former.trout(at)gmail.com>; dc138 <DC138(at)diplomaticcorp.com>; Andrew Clarke <a_c_2bcool(at)hotmail.com>; Bruce Quinn <coebq(at)yahoo.com>; Bruce Ray <raybrucea(at)aol.com>; Jason K <Githraine(at)yahoo.com>; Nathan Deily <ndeily(at)yahoo.com>; Samuel Smith <agenbite.lee(at)gmail.com>; Steve Lytton <stevelytton(at)hotmail.com>
Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2008 1:30:30 PM
Subject: Re: DC138 Winter Of Our Discontent - Spring 2006 - Hard On Equipment
Just to set the record straight Rob (in case you or anyone else is interested) - the HL 'fudge' of the foolproof plan came at least in part due to my instigation - I thought he might be interested to know that you thought of him as being (I quote) "easily manipulated" and passed along those words of yours.
I have to admit, once I found that you viewed your relationship with your allies as one of mere manipulation, I lost interest in any long term relationship with you, even if that meant risking HL and Quebec combining to hit me in the future.
Frankly I wonder why Florida still sticks by you, and how manipulable you think he is.
That all being said, I don't see how this game is at the point of being proposed as a BC/Cali draw, when there's an alive and powerful Mexico and Florida that could easily contest that draw. And nothing says Cali or Florida couldn't pursue a solo venture. There's a lot of game left, methinks, and I'm sure there's plenty of chance that I'll also enjoy the feeling of clinging to a last few provinces (Artic Pirates Ho!) at some point...
And I hope you'll enjoy that feeling as well, before the end.
Andrew
On Wed, Mar 19, 2008 at 12:08 PM, Rob Ackerley <rob_ackerley(at)yahoo.ca ([email]rob_ackerley(at)yahoo.ca[/email])> wrote:
Aw Sims... in this game there was no disconnect between my words and my orders to anyone until HL decided to fudge a foolproof (or so I thought) plan to take MON and QUE from you. And not since I sought retribtution for his actions has there been disconnect. Twice HL screwed me since (justifably) and for several turns BC has spoken great things towards peace in the NE, yet his rush of units to the region paint an entirely contrasting picture.
You're just mad and upset that you were jumped on first - before you got yourself established enough to turn on HL or I. I'm just mad because I had too much confidence in the compotence of HL. I put too much trust in BC when clearly he didn't deserve any, and at present you are just an extension of him.
The fact of the matter is HL will lose his centers before he gains anything significant from me. Your in a position to lose both your SC's this turn and surprisingly even after my misorder, I am not in terrible position in the short term.
In the long term, unless BC and Cali crack or Mexico makes immediate moves to flex some naval muscle in the Pacific, then the game is over. Not one to throw in the towel, but another season or two on the current course and our little love triangle in the NE will be a distant thought.
Rob
----- Original Message ----
From: Michael Sims <mike(at)southwall.com ([email]mike(at)southwall.com[/email])>
To: Rob Ackerley <rob_ackerley(at)yahoo.ca ([email]rob_ackerley(at)yahoo.ca[/email])>; Former Trout <former.trout(at)gmail.com ([email]former.trout(at)gmail.com[/email])>; dc138 <DC138(at)diplomaticcorp.com ([email]DC138(at)diplomaticcorp.com[/email])>
Cc: Andrew Clarke <a_c_2bcool(at)hotmail.com ([email]a_c_2bcool(at)hotmail.com[/email])>; Andrew Tanner <damienthryn(at)gmail.com ([email]damienthryn(at)gmail.com[/email])>; Bruce Quinn <coebq(at)yahoo.com ([email]coebq(at)yahoo.com[/email])>; Bruce Ray <raybrucea(at)aol.com ([email]raybrucea(at)aol.com[/email])>; Jason K <Githraine(at)yahoo.com ([email]Githraine(at)yahoo.com[/email])>; Nathan Deily <ndeily(at)yahoo.com ([email]ndeily(at)yahoo.com[/email])>; Samuel Smith <agenbite.lee(at)gmail.com ([email]agenbite.lee(at)gmail.com[/email])>; Steve Lytton <stevelytton(at)hotmail.com ([email]stevelytton(at)hotmail.com[/email])>
Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2008 12:13:49 PM
Subject: RE: DC138 Winter Of Our Discontent - Spring 2006 - Hard On Equipment
Ya know if you'd stop dropping your front line units maybe you could stop those huge empires in the west. I'm sure you'll keep going at me tho, the little guy with two measly fleets just trying to stay alive, and Cali/BC will keep expanding. But of course you prefer me as your enemy, you've made that clear.
guess I have swallowed my words eh Sims
I didn't know you used words. Based on the complete disconnect between what you've said this game and what you've ordered, I figured you were just speaking gibberish.
Fuck... Fuck.... Fuckitty Fuck Fuck Fuck!!!
…pretty much confirms that.
From: Rob Ackerley [mailto:rob_ackerley(at)yahoo.ca ([email]rob_ackerley(at)yahoo.ca[/email])]
Sent: Saturday, March 15, 2008 12:37 PM
To: Former Trout; dc138
Cc: Andrew Clarke; Andrew Tanner; Bruce Quinn; Bruce Ray; Jason K; Michael Sims ; Nathan Deily; Samuel Smith; Steve Lytton
Subject: Re: DC138 Winter Of Our Discontent - Spring 2006 - Hard On Equipment
Fucking coasts... Fucking internet troubles... Fuck... Fuck.... Fuckitty Fuck Fuck Fuck!!!
NY/BC joint victory proposed...
You Got luckly this time Sims... Net problems kept me from checking my orders thoroughly... Fucking 3rd world inter-fucking-net... anyways... guess I have swallowed my words eh Sims... Hopefully, my stretch of 3 days without net will end today... too little too late for this game though...
Oh well... It doesn't matter much anyway....
----- Original Message ----
From: Former Trout <former.trout(at)gmail.com ([email]former.trout(at)gmail.com[/email])>
To: dc138 <DC138(at)diplomaticcorp.com ([email]DC138(at)diplomaticcorp.com[/email])>
Cc: Andrew Clarke <a_c_2bcool(at)hotmail.com ([email]a_c_2bcool(at)hotmail.com[/email])>; Andrew Tanner <damienthryn(at)gmail.com ([email]damienthryn(at)gmail.com[/email])>; Bruce Quinn <coebq(at)yahoo.com ([email]coebq(at)yahoo.com[/email])>; Bruce Ray <raybrucea(at)aol.com ([email]raybrucea(at)aol.com[/email])>; Jason K <Githraine(at)yahoo.com ([email]Githraine(at)yahoo.com[/email])>; Mike Sims <mike(at)southwall.com ([email]mike(at)southwall.com[/email])>; Nathan Deily < ndeily(at)yahoo.com ([email]ndeily(at)yahoo.com[/email]) >; Rob Ackerley <rob_ackerley(at)yahoo.ca ([email]rob_ackerley(at)yahoo.ca[/email])>; Samuel Smith <agenbite.lee(at)gmail.com ([email]agenbite.lee(at)gmail.com[/email])>; Steve Lytton <stevelytton(at)hotmail.com ([email]stevelytton(at)hotmail.com[/email])>
Sent: Friday, March 14, 2008 8:43:52 PM
Subject: DC138 Winter Of Our Discontent - Spring 2006 - Hard On Equipment
Our sage guru of all guru-ness plucks this from his Spring 2006 Fortune Cookie: You will soon be more aware of your growing awareness.
Course, we're all aware of hind-sight. Mexico puts on an eye-patch and peg-leg, moving into Carribean waters. New York continues to struggle against the wrath of the previously-stabbed and the weather channels split in disagreement over the coming Canadian cold front or Sunny Californian glow...
One retreat required after all of that - the New York fleet in the Gulf of St Lawrence finds itself finding a new port. Either Newfoundland or Quebec , the American sailors will soon find themselves in a land with strange-speaking people. Deadline for the Summer 2006 retreat will be set for Sunday, March 16th (11:59 PM GMT).
Cheers all. Please just let me know if you spot any mistakes.
Trout
DC-138
A Diplomaticcorp Game
Fall of the American Empire 4 Variant
Game Started:
Current Turn:
Spring 2006
Next Deadline:
Summer 2006 Retreats
Sunday, March 16th (11:59 PM GMT)
The Rowdy Cast
British Columbia
Andrew Tanner
damienthryn AT gmail DOT com
California
Bruce Ray
Raybrucea AT aol DOT com
Cuba
Jason K.
Githraine AT yahoo DOT com
Florida
Lee Moore
agenbite DOT lee AT gmail DOT com
Heartland
Andy Ski
a_c_2bcool AT hotmail DOT com
Mexico
Bruce Quinn
coebq AT yahoo DOT com
New York
Rob Ackerley
rob_ackerley AT yahoo DOT ca
Peru
Alex Schmidt
wecanworkthisout AT yahoo DOT com
Quebec
Mike Sims
mike AT southwall DOT com
Texas
Nathan Deily
nedily AT yahoo DOT com
Humble GM:
Former Trout
former DOT trout AT gmail DOT com
CURRENT SEASON:
SPRING 2006 ORDERS:
BRITISH COLUMBIA :
F MPO H
OK
F Van - Anc
OK
F Anc - ARO
OK
F Gre - NAO
[BOUNCE with NAO 1:1]
F SOL s ( Quebec ) F NSC - GSL
OK
A Min s (HL) A Chi-Mil
VOID (No Such Order)
A Won s (HL) A Ont
OK
A Man - Non
OK
A Non - Abi
OK
A Mon - Bea
OK
CALIFORNIA :
North Pacific - WCO (West Coast?)
OK
Baja - Gulf of California
[BOUNCE with GUA 1:1]
Oklahoma - Missouri
OK
Kansas s Oklahoma - Missouri
OK
Nebraska s Oklahoma - Missouri
OK
San Antonio - Houston
[BOUNCE with HOU 2:2]
Dallas s San Antonio - Houston
OK
West Texas s Dallas
OK
New Mexico s Dallas
OK
Arizona - Colorado
OK
CUBA :
A Bogota - Vichada
OK
F Cali (nc) - South Caribbean Sea
[BOUNCE with WES 1:1]
F East Caribbean Sea - Venezuela
OK
FLORIDA :
A Hou holds
OK
A in Lou supports A in Hou holding
OK
A Ark holds
OK
A Ten supports A Ark holding
OK
A Dos supports A Ark Holding
OK
A Geo supports A Ten supporting A Ark
OK
A Hav to Cam
OK
F Mia to Sof
OK
F Sof to GoM
OK
F Kin to ECS
OK
F Les supports F Kin to ECS
OK
F WeS to Scs
[BOUNCE with CAL 1:1]
HEARTLAND:
A Chicago - Indiana
[BOUNCE with IND 1:1]
A Milwaukee - Upper Peninsula
[BOUNCE with MIC 1:1]
A Missouri - Kentucky
OK
A Ontario Supports A Montreal
VOID (Unit Ordered To Move)
MEXICO :
A Pot - Mex
OK
F Gua - GCa
[BOUNCE with BAJ 1:1]
F Ver - GoC
OK
F Gut - CoM
OK
F GoF - CoB
OK
A Nic holds
OK
A Yuc holds
OK
A NLe holds
OK
F Pan - GMo
OK
F Lima - Gal
OK
NEW YORK :
A Beauce - Gaspesie
OK
F Gulf of St-Lawrence - New Brunswick (sc)
VOID [DISLODGED by NSC 2:1]
A Indiana Supports A Tennessee - Kentucky
[CUT by CHI]
F Massachusetts Bay Supports F Gulf of St-Lawrence - New Brunswick (sc)
VOID
A Michigan - Upper Peninsula
[BOUNCE with MIL 1:1]
F North Atlantic Ocean - Nova Scotia
[BOUNCE with NBR 1:1]
A New York State - Ontario
[BOUNCE with ONT 1:2]
QUEBEC :
F NSc-GSL
OK
F NBr/nc-NSc
[BOUNCE with NAO 1:1]
SUMMER 2006 RETREATS:
New York F Gulf of St-Lawrence may retreat to Nfl, Lab, Cot, Que or OTB
UNIT / SUPPLY CENTER BREAKDOWN
------------------------------
BRITISH COLUMBIA :
10 Supply Centers - Anc, Van, Cgy, Was, Haw,
Man, Min, Ung, Gre, Mon
5 Armies - Min, Bea, Abi, Won, Non
5 Fleets - Mpo, Sol, Gre, Aro, Anc
CALIFORNIA :
10 Supply Centers - Sfr, Los, Sdi, Ore , Ari , Col ,
Chh , Kan , San, Dal
8 Armies - Mis, Dal, Wte, San, Kan , Neb , Nme , Col
2 Fleets - Baj, Wco
CUBA :
3 Supply Centers - Ven , Cal , Bog
1 Army - Vic
2 Fleets - Cal(nc), Ven
FLORIDA :
12 Supply Centers - Jac, Tam, Mia, Ten, Geo, Nca,
Lou, Hou, Hol, Dom, Hav, Kin
7 Armies - Ten, Hou , Ark , Lou, Cam , Geo, Dso
5 Fleets - Les, Wcs, Ecs, Gom, Sof
HEARTLAND:
4 Supply Centers - Mil, Mis, Chi, Ont
4 Armies - Chi, Ont, Ken, Mil
0 Fleets -
MEXICO :
10 Supply Centers - Gua, Mex, Ver, Gut, Dur, Nle,
Nic, Lim, Pan, Yuc
4 Armies - Nic, Mex, Nle, Yuc
6 Fleets - Cob, Gal, Gmo, Com, Goc, Gua
NEW YORK :
7 Supply Centers - Nyc, Nje, Phi, Mas, Ohi, Wdc,
Mic
4 Armies - Bea, Mic, Ind , Nys
3 Fleets - Mab, [Gsl], Nao
QUEBEC :
2 Supply Centers - Que, Nsc
0 Armies -
2 Fleets - Gsl, Nbr(nc)
TEXAS - ELIMINATED 2004
PERU - ELIMINATED 2005
NEXT DEADLINE: SUMMER 2006 RETREATS DUE SUNDAY, MARCH 16TH (11:59 PM GMT)!!
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| DC138 Winter Of Our Discontent - Spring 2006 - Har... - FuzzyLogic (Mar 19, 2008, 1:23 pm) |
Ya know if you’d stop dropping your front line units maybe you could stop those huge empires in the west. I’m sure you’ll keep going at me tho, the little guy with two measly fleets just trying to stay alive, and Cali/BC will keep expanding. But of course you prefer me as your enemy, you’ve made that clear.
guess I have swallowed my words eh Sims
I didn’t know you used words. Based on the complete disconnect between what you’ve said this game and what you’ve ordered, I figured you were just speaking gibberish.
Fuck... Fuck.... Fuckitty Fuck Fuck Fuck!!!
…pretty much confirms that.
From: Rob Ackerley [mailto:rob_ackerley(at)yahoo.ca]
Sent: Saturday, March 15, 2008 12:37 PM
To: Former Trout; dc138
Cc: Andrew Clarke; Andrew Tanner; Bruce Quinn; Bruce Ray; Jason K; Michael Sims; Nathan Deily; Samuel Smith; Steve Lytton
Subject: Re: DC138 Winter Of Our Discontent - Spring 2006 - Hard On Equipment
Fucking coasts... Fucking internet troubles... Fuck... Fuck.... Fuckitty Fuck Fuck Fuck!!!
NY/BC joint victory proposed...
You Got luckly this time Sims... Net problems kept me from checking my orders thoroughly... Fucking 3rd world inter-fucking-net... anyways... guess I have swallowed my words eh Sims... Hopefully, my stretch of 3 days without net will end today... too little too late for this game though...
Oh well... It doesn't matter much anyway....
----- Original Message ----
From: Former Trout <former.trout(at)gmail.com>
To: dc138 <DC138(at)diplomaticcorp.com>
Cc: Andrew Clarke <a_c_2bcool(at)hotmail.com>; Andrew Tanner <damienthryn(at)gmail.com>; Bruce Quinn <coebq(at)yahoo.com>; Bruce Ray <raybrucea(at)aol.com>; Jason K <Githraine(at)yahoo.com>; Mike Sims <mike(at)southwall.com>; Nathan Deily <ndeily(at)yahoo.com>; Rob Ackerley <rob_ackerley(at)yahoo.ca>; Samuel Smith <agenbite.lee(at)gmail.com>; Steve Lytton <stevelytton(at)hotmail.com>
Sent: Friday, March 14, 2008 8:43:52 PM
Subject: DC138 Winter Of Our Discontent - Spring 2006 - Hard On Equipment
Our sage guru of all guru-ness plucks this from his Spring 2006 Fortune Cookie: You will soon be more aware of your growing awareness.
Course, we're all aware of hind-sight. Mexico puts on an eye-patch and peg-leg, moving into Carribean waters. New York continues to struggle against the wrath of the previously-stabbed and the weather channels split in disagreement over the coming Canadian cold front or Sunny Californian glow...
One retreat required after all of that - the New York fleet in the Gulf of St Lawrence finds itself finding a new port. Either Newfoundland or Quebec, the American sailors will soon find themselves in a land with strange-speaking people. Deadline for the Summer 2006 retreat will be set for Sunday, March 16th (11:59 PM GMT).
Cheers all. Please just let me know if you spot any mistakes.
Trout
DC-138
A Diplomaticcorp Game
Fall of the American Empire 4 Variant
Game Started:
Current Turn:
Spring 2006
Next Deadline:
Summer 2006 Retreats
Sunday, March 16th (11:59 PM GMT)
The Rowdy Cast
British Columbia
Andrew Tanner
damienthryn AT gmail DOT com
California
Bruce Ray
Raybrucea AT aol DOT com
Cuba
Jason K.
Githraine AT yahoo DOT com
Florida
Lee Moore
agenbite DOT lee AT gmail DOT com
Heartland
Andy Ski
a_c_2bcool AT hotmail DOT com
Mexico
Bruce Quinn
coebq AT yahoo DOT com
New York
Rob Ackerley
rob_ackerley AT yahoo DOT ca
Peru
Alex Schmidt
wecanworkthisout AT yahoo DOT com
Quebec
Mike Sims
mike AT southwall DOT com
Texas
Nathan Deily
nedily AT yahoo DOT com
Humble GM:
Former Trout
former DOT trout AT gmail DOT com
CURRENT SEASON:
SPRING 2006 ORDERS:
BRITISH COLUMBIA:
F MPO H
OK
F Van - Anc
OK
F Anc - ARO
OK
F Gre - NAO
[BOUNCE with NAO 1:1]
F SOL s (Quebec) F NSC - GSL
OK
A Min s (HL) A Chi-Mil
VOID (No Such Order)
A Won s (HL) A Ont
OK
A Man - Non
OK
A Non - Abi
OK
A Mon - Bea
OK
CALIFORNIA:
North Pacific - WCO (West Coast?)
OK
Baja - Gulf of California
[BOUNCE with GUA 1:1]
Oklahoma - Missouri
OK
Kansas s Oklahoma - Missouri
OK
Nebraska s Oklahoma - Missouri
OK
San Antonio - Houston
[BOUNCE with HOU 2:2]
Dallas s San Antonio - Houston
OK
West Texas s Dallas
OK
New Mexico s Dallas
OK
Arizona - Colorado
OK
CUBA:
A Bogota - Vichada
OK
F Cali(nc) - South Caribbean Sea
[BOUNCE with WES 1:1]
F East Caribbean Sea - Venezuela
OK
FLORIDA:
A Hou holds
OK
A in Lou supports A in Hou holding
OK
A Ark holds
OK
A Ten supports A Ark holding
OK
A Dos supports A Ark Holding
OK
A Geo supports A Ten supporting A Ark
OK
A Hav to Cam
OK
F Mia to Sof
OK
F Sof to GoM
OK
F Kin to ECS
OK
F Les supports F Kin to ECS
OK
F WeS to Scs
[BOUNCE with CAL 1:1]
HEARTLAND:
A Chicago - Indiana
[BOUNCE with IND 1:1]
A Milwaukee - Upper Peninsula
[BOUNCE with MIC 1:1]
A Missouri - Kentucky
OK
A Ontario Supports A Montreal
VOID (Unit Ordered To Move)
MEXICO:
A Pot - Mex
OK
F Gua - GCa
[BOUNCE with BAJ 1:1]
F Ver - GoC
OK
F Gut - CoM
OK
F GoF - CoB
OK
A Nic holds
OK
A Yuc holds
OK
A NLe holds
OK
F Pan - GMo
OK
F Lima - Gal
OK
NEW YORK:
A Beauce - Gaspesie
OK
F Gulf of St-Lawrence - New Brunswick(sc)
VOID [DISLODGED by NSC 2:1]
A Indiana Supports A Tennessee - Kentucky
[CUT by CHI]
F Massachusetts Bay Supports F Gulf of St-Lawrence - New Brunswick(sc)
VOID
A Michigan - Upper Peninsula
[BOUNCE with MIL 1:1]
F North Atlantic Ocean - Nova Scotia
[BOUNCE with NBR 1:1]
A New York State - Ontario
[BOUNCE with ONT 1:2]
QUEBEC:
F NSc-GSL
OK
F NBr/nc-NSc
[BOUNCE with NAO 1:1]
SUMMER 2006 RETREATS:
New York F Gulf of St-Lawrence may retreat to Nfl, Lab, Cot, Que or OTB
UNIT / SUPPLY CENTER BREAKDOWN
------------------------------
BRITISH COLUMBIA:
10 Supply Centers - Anc, Van, Cgy, Was, Haw,
Man, Min, Ung, Gre, Mon
5 Armies - Min, Bea, Abi, Won, Non
5 Fleets - Mpo, Sol, Gre, Aro, Anc
CALIFORNIA:
10 Supply Centers - Sfr, Los, Sdi, Ore, Ari, Col,
Chh, Kan, San, Dal
8 Armies - Mis, Dal, Wte, San, Kan, Neb, Nme, Col
2 Fleets - Baj, Wco
CUBA:
3 Supply Centers - Ven, Cal, Bog
1 Army - Vic
2 Fleets - Cal(nc), Ven
FLORIDA:
12 Supply Centers - Jac, Tam, Mia, Ten, Geo, Nca,
Lou, Hou, Hol, Dom, Hav, Kin
7 Armies - Ten, Hou, Ark, Lou, Cam, Geo, Dso
5 Fleets - Les, Wcs, Ecs, Gom, Sof
HEARTLAND:
4 Supply Centers - Mil, Mis, Chi, Ont
4 Armies - Chi, Ont, Ken, Mil
0 Fleets -
MEXICO:
10 Supply Centers - Gua, Mex, Ver, Gut, Dur, Nle,
Nic, Lim, Pan, Yuc
4 Armies - Nic, Mex, Nle, Yuc
6 Fleets - Cob, Gal, Gmo, Com, Goc, Gua
NEW YORK:
7 Supply Centers - Nyc, Nje, Phi, Mas, Ohi, Wdc,
Mic
4 Armies - Bea, Mic, Ind, Nys
3 Fleets - Mab, [Gsl], Nao
QUEBEC:
2 Supply Centers - Que, Nsc
0 Armies -
2 Fleets - Gsl, Nbr(nc)
TEXAS - ELIMINATED 2004
PERU - ELIMINATED 2005
NEXT DEADLINE: SUMMER 2006 RETREATS DUE SUNDAY, MARCH 16TH (11:59 PM GMT)!!
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| DC138 Winter Of Our Discontent - Spring 2006 - Hard On Equipment (dc138) roback80 Mar 19, 04:03 pm |
Andrew,
firstly I think you are thinking of the wrong foolproof plan as our communication when HL fudged it wasminimal long before my "easily manipulated" statement. And the funny thing about your declaration of my statements further solidifies my statement regarding HL. If there is anyone on this board than can say without a doubt that HL has NOT been sporadic and flip flopping all game and show proof then I will resign... right I guess I play on...
And if you accurately read what I wrote - not interpret what you want and how it suits you best - you will clearly see, and I quote "unless BC and Cali crack or Mexico makes immediate moves to flex some naval muscle in the Pacific, then the game is over." If those things happen then yes there is much to play for. But last seasons moves show Mexico edging more and more into the Caribbean and shows only the faint and probably staged movement north of a lone Cali fleet.
So like i said, and again I quote "another season or two on the current course..." and there won't be much left to discuss.
----- Original Message ----
From: Andrew Tanner <damienthryn(at)gmail.com>
To: Rob Ackerley <rob_ackerley(at)yahoo.ca>
Cc: Michael Sims <mike(at)southwall.com>; Former Trout <former.trout(at)gmail.com>; dc138 <DC138(at)diplomaticcorp.com>; Andrew Clarke <a_c_2bcool(at)hotmail.com>; Bruce Quinn <coebq(at)yahoo.com>; Bruce Ray <raybrucea(at)aol.com>; Jason K <Githraine(at)yahoo.com>; Nathan Deily <ndeily(at)yahoo.com>; Samuel Smith <agenbite.lee(at)gmail.com>; Steve Lytton <stevelytton(at)hotmail.com>
Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2008 1:30:30 PM
Subject: Re: DC138 Winter Of Our Discontent - Spring 2006 - Hard On Equipment
Just to set the record straight Rob (in case you or anyone else is interested) - the HL 'fudge' of the foolproof plan came at least in part due to my instigation - I thought he might be interested to know that you thought of him as being (I quote) "easily manipulated" and passed along those words of yours.
I have to admit, once I found that you viewed your relationship with your allies as one of mere manipulation, I lost interest in any long term relationship with you, even if that meant risking HL and Quebec combining to hit me in the future.
Frankly I wonder why Florida still sticks by you, and how manipulable you think he is.
That all being said, I don't see how this game is at the point of being proposed as a BC/Cali draw, when there's an alive and powerful Mexico and Florida that could easily contest that draw. And nothing says Cali or Florida couldn't pursue a solo venture. There's a lot of game left, methinks, and I'm sure there's plenty of chance that I'll also enjoy the feeling of clinging to a last few provinces (Artic Pirates Ho!) at some point...
And I hope you'll enjoy that feeling as well, before the end.
Andrew
On Wed, Mar 19, 2008 at 12:08 PM, Rob Ackerley <rob_ackerley(at)yahoo.ca ([email]rob_ackerley(at)yahoo.ca[/email])> wrote:
Aw Sims... in this game there was no disconnect between my words and my orders to anyone until HL decided to fudge a foolproof (or so I thought) plan to take MON and QUE from you. And not since I sought retribtution for his actions has there been disconnect. Twice HL screwed me since (justifably) and for several turns BC has spoken great things towards peace in the NE, yet his rush of units to the region paint an entirely contrasting picture.
You're just mad and upset that you were jumped on first - before you got yourself established enough to turn on HL or I. I'm just mad because I had too much confidence in the compotence of HL. I put too much trust in BC when clearly he didn't deserve any, and at present you are just an extension of him.
The fact of the matter is HL will lose his centers before he gains anything significant from me. Your in a position to lose both your SC's this turn and surprisingly even after my misorder, I am not in terrible position in the short term.
In the long term, unless BC and Cali crack or Mexico makes immediate moves to flex some naval muscle in the Pacific, then the game is over. Not one to throw in the towel, but another season or two on the current course and our little love triangle in the NE will be a distant thought.
Rob
----- Original Message ----
From: Michael Sims <mike(at)southwall.com ([email]mike(at)southwall.com[/email])>
To: Rob Ackerley <rob_ackerley(at)yahoo.ca ([email]rob_ackerley(at)yahoo.ca[/email])>; Former Trout <former.trout(at)gmail.com ([email]former.trout(at)gmail.com[/email])>; dc138 <DC138(at)diplomaticcorp.com ([email]DC138(at)diplomaticcorp.com[/email])>
Cc: Andrew Clarke <a_c_2bcool(at)hotmail.com ([email]a_c_2bcool(at)hotmail.com[/email])>; Andrew Tanner <damienthryn(at)gmail.com ([email]damienthryn(at)gmail.com[/email])>; Bruce Quinn <coebq(at)yahoo.com ([email]coebq(at)yahoo.com[/email])>; Bruce Ray <raybrucea(at)aol.com ([email]raybrucea(at)aol.com[/email])>; Jason K <Githraine(at)yahoo.com ([email]Githraine(at)yahoo.com[/email])>; Nathan Deily <ndeily(at)yahoo.com ([email]ndeily(at)yahoo.com[/email])>; Samuel Smith <agenbite.lee(at)gmail.com ([email]agenbite.lee(at)gmail.com[/email])>; Steve Lytton <stevelytton(at)hotmail.com ([email]stevelytton(at)hotmail.com[/email])>
Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2008 12:13:49 PM
Subject: RE: DC138 Winter Of Our Discontent - Spring 2006 - Hard On Equipment
Ya know if you'd stop dropping your front line units maybe you could stop those huge empires in the west. I'm sure you'll keep going at me tho, the little guy with two measly fleets just trying to stay alive, and Cali/BC will keep expanding. But of course you prefer me as your enemy, you've made that clear.
guess I have swallowed my words eh Sims
I didn't know you used words. Based on the complete disconnect between what you've said this game and what you've ordered, I figured you were just speaking gibberish.
Fuck... Fuck.... Fuckitty Fuck Fuck Fuck!!!
…pretty much confirms that.
From: Rob Ackerley [mailto:rob_ackerley(at)yahoo.ca ([email]rob_ackerley(at)yahoo.ca[/email])]
Sent: Saturday, March 15, 2008 12:37 PM
To: Former Trout; dc138
Cc: Andrew Clarke; Andrew Tanner; Bruce Quinn; Bruce Ray; Jason K; Michael Sims ; Nathan Deily; Samuel Smith; Steve Lytton
Subject: Re: DC138 Winter Of Our Discontent - Spring 2006 - Hard On Equipment
Fucking coasts... Fucking internet troubles... Fuck... Fuck.... Fuckitty Fuck Fuck Fuck!!!
NY/BC joint victory proposed...
You Got luckly this time Sims... Net problems kept me from checking my orders thoroughly... Fucking 3rd world inter-fucking-net... anyways... guess I have swallowed my words eh Sims... Hopefully, my stretch of 3 days without net will end today... too little too late for this game though...
Oh well... It doesn't matter much anyway....
----- Original Message ----
From: Former Trout <former.trout(at)gmail.com ([email]former.trout(at)gmail.com[/email])>
To: dc138 <DC138(at)diplomaticcorp.com ([email]DC138(at)diplomaticcorp.com[/email])>
Cc: Andrew Clarke <a_c_2bcool(at)hotmail.com ([email]a_c_2bcool(at)hotmail.com[/email])>; Andrew Tanner <damienthryn(at)gmail.com ([email]damienthryn(at)gmail.com[/email])>; Bruce Quinn <coebq(at)yahoo.com ([email]coebq(at)yahoo.com[/email])>; Bruce Ray <raybrucea(at)aol.com ([email]raybrucea(at)aol.com[/email])>; Jason K <Githraine(at)yahoo.com ([email]Githraine(at)yahoo.com[/email])>; Mike Sims <mike(at)southwall.com ([email]mike(at)southwall.com[/email])>; Nathan Deily < ndeily(at)yahoo.com ([email]ndeily(at)yahoo.com[/email]) >; Rob Ackerley <rob_ackerley(at)yahoo.ca ([email]rob_ackerley(at)yahoo.ca[/email])>; Samuel Smith <agenbite.lee(at)gmail.com ([email]agenbite.lee(at)gmail.com[/email])>; Steve Lytton <stevelytton(at)hotmail.com ([email]stevelytton(at)hotmail.com[/email])>
Sent: Friday, March 14, 2008 8:43:52 PM
Subject: DC138 Winter Of Our Discontent - Spring 2006 - Hard On Equipment
Our sage guru of all guru-ness plucks this from his Spring 2006 Fortune Cookie: You will soon be more aware of your growing awareness.
Course, we're all aware of hind-sight. Mexico puts on an eye-patch and peg-leg, moving into Carribean waters. New York continues to struggle against the wrath of the previously-stabbed and the weather channels split in disagreement over the coming Canadian cold front or Sunny Californian glow...
One retreat required after all of that - the New York fleet in the Gulf of St Lawrence finds itself finding a new port. Either Newfoundland or Quebec , the American sailors will soon find themselves in a land with strange-speaking people. Deadline for the Summer 2006 retreat will be set for Sunday, March 16th (11:59 PM GMT).
Cheers all. Please just let me know if you spot any mistakes.
Trout
DC-138
A Diplomaticcorp Game
Fall of the American Empire 4 Variant
Game Started:
Current Turn:
Spring 2006
Next Deadline:
Summer 2006 Retreats
Sunday, March 16th (11:59 PM GMT)
The Rowdy Cast
British Columbia
Andrew Tanner
damienthryn AT gmail DOT com
California
Bruce Ray
Raybrucea AT aol DOT com
Cuba
Jason K.
Githraine AT yahoo DOT com
Florida
Lee Moore
agenbite DOT lee AT gmail DOT com
Heartland
Andy Ski
a_c_2bcool AT hotmail DOT com
Mexico
Bruce Quinn
coebq AT yahoo DOT com
New York
Rob Ackerley
rob_ackerley AT yahoo DOT ca
Peru
Alex Schmidt
wecanworkthisout AT yahoo DOT com
Quebec
Mike Sims
mike AT southwall DOT com
Texas
Nathan Deily
nedily AT yahoo DOT com
Humble GM:
Former Trout
former DOT trout AT gmail DOT com
CURRENT SEASON:
SPRING 2006 ORDERS:
BRITISH COLUMBIA :
F MPO H
OK
F Van - Anc
OK
F Anc - ARO
OK
F Gre - NAO
[BOUNCE with NAO 1:1]
F SOL s ( Quebec ) F NSC - GSL
OK
A Min s (HL) A Chi-Mil
VOID (No Such Order)
A Won s (HL) A Ont
OK
A Man - Non
OK
A Non - Abi
OK
A Mon - Bea
OK
CALIFORNIA :
North Pacific - WCO (West Coast?)
OK
Baja - Gulf of California
[BOUNCE with GUA 1:1]
Oklahoma - Missouri
OK
Kansas s Oklahoma - Missouri
OK
Nebraska s Oklahoma - Missouri
OK
San Antonio - Houston
[BOUNCE with HOU 2:2]
Dallas s San Antonio - Houston
OK
West Texas s Dallas
OK
New Mexico s Dallas
OK
Arizona - Colorado
OK
CUBA :
A Bogota - Vichada
OK
F Cali (nc) - South Caribbean Sea
[BOUNCE with WES 1:1]
F East Caribbean Sea - Venezuela
OK
FLORIDA :
A Hou holds
OK
A in Lou supports A in Hou holding
OK
A Ark holds
OK
A Ten supports A Ark holding
OK
A Dos supports A Ark Holding
OK
A Geo supports A Ten supporting A Ark
OK
A Hav to Cam
OK
F Mia to Sof
OK
F Sof to GoM
OK
F Kin to ECS
OK
F Les supports F Kin to ECS
OK
F WeS to Scs
[BOUNCE with CAL 1:1]
HEARTLAND:
A Chicago - Indiana
[BOUNCE with IND 1:1]
A Milwaukee - Upper Peninsula
[BOUNCE with MIC 1:1]
A Missouri - Kentucky
OK
A Ontario Supports A Montreal
VOID (Unit Ordered To Move)
MEXICO :
A Pot - Mex
OK
F Gua - GCa
[BOUNCE with BAJ 1:1]
F Ver - GoC
OK
F Gut - CoM
OK
F GoF - CoB
OK
A Nic holds
OK
A Yuc holds
OK
A NLe holds
OK
F Pan - GMo
OK
F Lima - Gal
OK
NEW YORK :
A Beauce - Gaspesie
OK
F Gulf of St-Lawrence - New Brunswick (sc)
VOID [DISLODGED by NSC 2:1]
A Indiana Supports A Tennessee - Kentucky
[CUT by CHI]
F Massachusetts Bay Supports F Gulf of St-Lawrence - New Brunswick (sc)
VOID
A Michigan - Upper Peninsula
[BOUNCE with MIL 1:1]
F North Atlantic Ocean - Nova Scotia
[BOUNCE with NBR 1:1]
A New York State - Ontario
[BOUNCE with ONT 1:2]
QUEBEC :
F NSc-GSL
OK
F NBr/nc-NSc
[BOUNCE with NAO 1:1]
SUMMER 2006 RETREATS:
New York F Gulf of St-Lawrence may retreat to Nfl, Lab, Cot, Que or OTB
UNIT / SUPPLY CENTER BREAKDOWN
------------------------------
BRITISH COLUMBIA :
10 Supply Centers - Anc, Van, Cgy, Was, Haw,
Man, Min, Ung, Gre, Mon
5 Armies - Min, Bea, Abi, Won, Non
5 Fleets - Mpo, Sol, Gre, Aro, Anc
CALIFORNIA :
10 Supply Centers - Sfr, Los, Sdi, Ore , Ari , Col ,
Chh , Kan , San, Dal
8 Armies - Mis, Dal, Wte, San, Kan , Neb , Nme , Col
2 Fleets - Baj, Wco
CUBA :
3 Supply Centers - Ven , Cal , Bog
1 Army - Vic
2 Fleets - Cal(nc), Ven
FLORIDA :
12 Supply Centers - Jac, Tam, Mia, Ten, Geo, Nca,
Lou, Hou, Hol, Dom, Hav, Kin
7 Armies - Ten, Hou , Ark , Lou, Cam , Geo, Dso
5 Fleets - Les, Wcs, Ecs, Gom, Sof
HEARTLAND:
4 Supply Centers - Mil, Mis, Chi, Ont
4 Armies - Chi, Ont, Ken, Mil
0 Fleets -
MEXICO :
10 Supply Centers - Gua, Mex, Ver, Gut, Dur, Nle,
Nic, Lim, Pan, Yuc
4 Armies - Nic, Mex, Nle, Yuc
6 Fleets - Cob, Gal, Gmo, Com, Goc, Gua
NEW YORK :
7 Supply Centers - Nyc, Nje, Phi, Mas, Ohi, Wdc,
Mic
4 Armies - Bea, Mic, Ind , Nys
3 Fleets - Mab, [Gsl], Nao
QUEBEC :
2 Supply Centers - Que, Nsc
0 Armies -
2 Fleets - Gsl, Nbr(nc)
TEXAS - ELIMINATED 2004
PERU - ELIMINATED 2005
NEXT DEADLINE: SUMMER 2006 RETREATS DUE SUNDAY, MARCH 16TH (11:59 PM GMT)!!
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| DC138 Winter Of Our Discontent - Spring 2006 - Hard On Equipment (dc138) FuzzyLogic Mar 19, 05:44 pm |
Ah yes - glad to have the expert here to declare what alliances can or cannot work. Shall I take notes? EGF or AIT can and do work in the standard game. In fact they are well-documented. But you say they can't so maybe 30 years of history and thousands of games were wrong. EGF (or in our case NHQ) alliances work if you make them work. If you discount any alliance as impossible, then you're simply playing with a smaller deck of options than the rest of the players. I will keep that in mind for future games! Perhaps you should consider that they dont work for you, cuz you think they dont work and so you preemptively break them. You also think that BC/Cali shouldn't work and one should stab the other, to the extent that you're whining that they should, yet it continues to work to your dismay.
They're simply choosing not to stab. Sorry. That probly hurts your eyes to read.
Now tell me who is handing the game over?
Oh, I don't think you alone caused the predicament that the whole northeast is in. However you were certainly an instigator in the happenings. I know that Heartland moved on me first, and I tried to work w the trio again after that, and then the two of you moved in, and I tried to work w HL yet again, and he still took a center on a retreat. But I chalk that up to inexperience, whereas I know you're a veteran who's supposedly been thru this before. I am pretty certain that without your prodding, if instead you and I had stood solid, HL would not have moved against us alone. As you put it, he probly could have been "manipulated" into sticking w us indefinitely, but you played that card to our destruction instead of our growth.
I'm guessing in dc136 you probly got hit from the other side, and so didnt have the chance to stab. No doubt if say Florida or Cuba had come up at you from the south, you'd have been all for our alliance. But when given the choice, well... it is a game of choices so we need not beat that one. Unfortunately there is no disputing that I gave both yourself and Heartland a huge effort to make this work, whereas your diploming was from the start of the alliance to get HL to stab me, since I outright told you I wouldn't stab him. That was truly my mistake in this game, when you asked me to stab Heartland so early, I should have realized you were playing that both ways, and Heartland wasn't as resistant to giving in.
What was the word... yes... perspective.
Or in your case, perspecttive.
From: Rob Ackerley [mailto:rob_ackerley(at)yahoo.ca]
Sent: Wed 3/19/2008 3:05 PM
To: Michael Sims; Former Trout; dc138
Cc: Andrew Clarke; Andrew Tanner; Bruce Quinn; Bruce Ray; Jason K; Nathan Deily; Samuel Smith; Steve Lytton
Subject: Re: DC138 Winter Of Our Discontent - Spring 2006 - Hard On Equipment
Sims,
All in the perspective of the wronged. I have played this game long enough to know that a geographic situation like ours would not sustain a long term, successful 3 way alliance. In the same way a E/G/F alliance or a T/I/A alliance in Vanilla Dip cannot last. A wise friend of my tought me this valuable piece of advise (occasionally the hard way) in some FTF games. An ally is no longer an ally if they have a shot at 2 or more SC's. And in 8 years of actively playing this game I have found that theory to be true 95% of the time. Sooner or later our borders would have ended up establishing that exact status.
If you want to see whether I am capable of being a solid and secure ally, look at DC136 where I have worked with Germany from the start to both of our benefit. Germany unfortunately made a wrong guess one turn that hurt him significantly and is just climbing back up from that with the trusted help of yours truly. So yes it can be done. But more often than not, it falls apart.
Lastly before you go blaming me for my choice of adjustments, I suggest you look more at HL and him vacating his line and cooperating with BC dispite my continued support and petitioning to ensure he did not lose MIS to Cali 3 years ago. So don't point the finger on me for the advance of Cali and BC. The line that fell apart which will open the door for them was and is HL. Period. so cus him out too while you are putting the blame on me handing the game over to them. I did my level best to restore peace and support HL and he chose to side with BC. Now tell me who is handing the game over?
Perspective.
Rob
----- Original Message ----
From: Michael Sims <mike(at)southwall.com>
To: Rob Ackerley <rob_ackerley(at)yahoo.ca>; Former Trout <former.trout(at)gmail.com>; dc138 <DC138(at)diplomaticcorp.com>
Cc: Andrew Clarke <a_c_2bcool(at)hotmail.com>; Andrew Tanner <damienthryn(at)gmail.com>; Bruce Quinn <coebq(at)yahoo.com>; Bruce Ray <raybrucea(at)aol.com>; Jason K <Githraine(at)yahoo.com>; Nathan Deily <ndeily(at)yahoo.com>; Samuel Smith <agenbite.lee(at)gmail.com>; Steve Lytton <stevelytton(at)hotmail.com>
Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2008 3:38:05 PM
Subject: RE: DC138 Winter Of Our Discontent - Spring 2006 - Hard On Equipment
Please refrain from declaring my moods. I am not mad, or upset. Rather I've been enjoying the game since you (Rob) devoted an empire 4 times my size to eliminating me, and you have nothing to show for it... and in fact lost 2 centers last round. You're so worried about BC rounding that corner or me living to say "hah" that you are conceding the center of America to California and BC so as to ensure my demise. That is in a way the ultimate compliment that you are giving up your own game to take mine.
However in the same breath, you're bitching about how Cali and BC wont stab each other, when you're bailing on the center of the map in favor of retaining an army in Gas is just handing them more centers and growth w/o having to stab the other. You are feeding the monster that you're complaining about, while getting very unlucky in the battles agaisnt me.
"You're just mad and upset that you were jumped on first - before you got yourself established enough to turn on HL or I."
I think Andrew's comments are right on, and this edifies them. For had you (and Heartland) not stabbed our trio, we would be in the 3 power positions, and everyone else on the map would be encouraging us to stab the other. See this is where your logic falls apart, for you ASSUME that an alliance wont work, and that someone will stab it. However we can see that if players stick to it, then it works. You didnt give ours a chance. You basically stabbed, admittedly so that I couldnt stab you first, and anyone who approaches an alliance like that, will find themselves often alliance-less, facing those who are stronger, urging them disappointedly to stab the other.
"Your in a position to lose both your SC's this turn "
Are you proud of this? You've spent your whole game trying to elim one player, I've survived way longer than I should have, and you're coming up on the short end of the alliance stick after our trio had the best opening possible in this game. Andrew would be toast if you hadn't turned, and Heartland and myself would now be beating on the door of California (sorry Ray!). However, yes, I am in a position to lose my SC's, so kudos to you for a great start well squandered.
From: Rob Ackerley [mailto:rob_ackerley(at)yahoo.ca]
Sent: Wed 3/19/2008 12:08 PM
To: Michael Sims; Former Trout; dc138
Cc: Andrew Clarke; Andrew Tanner; Bruce Quinn; Bruce Ray; Jason K; Nathan Deily; Samuel Smith; Steve Lytton
Subject: Re: DC138 Winter Of Our Discontent - Spring 2006 - Hard On Equipment
Aw Sims... in this game there was no disconnect between my words and my orders to anyone until HL decided to fudge a foolproof (or so I thought) plan to take MON and QUE from you. And not since I sought retribtution for his actions has there been disconnect. Twice HL screwed me since (justifably) and for several turns BC has spoken great things towards peace in the NE, yet his rush of units to the region paint an entirely contrasting picture.
You're just mad and upset that you were jumped on first - before you got yourself established enough to turn on HL or I. I'm just mad because I had too much confidence in the compotence of HL. I put too much trust in BC when clearly he didn't deserve any, and at present you are just an extension of him.
The fact of the matter is HL will lose his centers before he gains anything significant from me. Your in a position to lose both your SC's this turn and surprisingly even after my misorder, I am not in terrible position in the short term.
In the long term, unless BC and Cali crack or Mexico makes immediate moves to flex some naval muscle in the Pacific, then the game is over. Not one to throw in the towel, but another season or two on the current course and our little love triangle in the NE will be a distant thought.
Rob
----- Original Message ----
From: Michael Sims <mike(at)southwall.com>
To: Rob Ackerley <rob_ackerley(at)yahoo.ca>; Former Trout <former.trout(at)gmail.com>; dc138 <DC138(at)diplomaticcorp.com>
Cc: Andrew Clarke <a_c_2bcool(at)hotmail.com>; Andrew Tanner <damienthryn(at)gmail.com>; Bruce Quinn <coebq(at)yahoo.com>; Bruce Ray <raybrucea(at)aol.com>; Jason K <Githraine(at)yahoo.com>; Nathan Deily <ndeily(at)yahoo.com>; Samuel Smith <agenbite.lee(at)gmail.com>; Steve Lytton <stevelytton(at)hotmail.com>
Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2008 12:13:49 PM
Subject: RE: DC138 Winter Of Our Discontent - Spring 2006 - Hard On Equipment
Ya know if you’d stop dropping your front line units maybe you could stop those huge empires in the west. I’m sure you’ll keep going at me tho, the little guy with two measly fleets just trying to stay alive, and Cali/BC will keep expanding. But of course you prefer me as your enemy, you’ve made that clear.
guess I have swallowed my words eh Sims
I didn’t know you used words. Based on the complete disconnect between what you’ve said this game and what you’ve ordered, I figured you were just speaking gibberish.
Fuck... Fuck.... Fuckitty Fuck Fuck Fuck!!!
…pretty much confirms that.
From: Rob Ackerley [mailto:rob_ackerley(at)yahoo.ca]
Sent: Saturday, March 15, 2008 12:37 PM
To: Former Trout; dc138
Cc: Andrew Clarke; Andrew Tanner; Bruce Quinn; Bruce Ray; Jason K; Michael Sims ; Nathan Deily; Samuel Smith; Steve Lytton
Subject: Re: DC138 Winter Of Our Discontent - Spring 2006 - Hard On Equipment
Fucking coasts... Fucking internet troubles... Fuck... Fuck.... Fuckitty Fuck Fuck Fuck!!!
NY/BC joint victory proposed...
You Got luckly this time Sims... Net problems kept me from checking my orders thoroughly... Fucking 3rd world inter-fucking-net... anyways... guess I have swallowed my words eh Sims... Hopefully, my stretch of 3 days without net will end today... too little too late for this game though...
Oh well... It doesn't matter much anyway....
----- Original Message ----
From: Former Trout <former.trout(at)gmail.com>
To: dc138 <DC138(at)diplomaticcorp.com>
Cc: Andrew Clarke <a_c_2bcool(at)hotmail.com>; Andrew Tanner <damienthryn(at)gmail.com>; Bruce Quinn <coebq(at)yahoo.com>; Bruce Ray <raybrucea(at)aol.com>; Jason K <Githraine(at)yahoo.com>; Mike Sims <mike(at)southwall.com>; Nathan Deily < ndeily(at)yahoo.com >; Rob Ackerley <rob_ackerley(at)yahoo.ca>; Samuel Smith <agenbite.lee(at)gmail.com>; Steve Lytton <stevelytton(at)hotmail.com>
Sent: Friday, March 14, 2008 8:43:52 PM
Subject: DC138 Winter Of Our Discontent - Spring 2006 - Hard On Equipment
Our sage guru of all guru-ness plucks this from his Spring 2006 Fortune Cookie: You will soon be more aware of your growing awareness.
Course, we're all aware of hind-sight. Mexico puts on an eye-patch and peg-leg, moving into Carribean waters. New York continues to struggle against the wrath of the previously-stabbed and the weather channels split in disagreement over the coming Canadian cold front or Sunny Californian glow...
One retreat required after all of that - the New York fleet in the Gulf of St Lawrence finds itself finding a new port. Either Newfoundland or Quebec , the American sailors will soon find themselves in a land with strange-speaking people. Deadline for the Summer 2006 retreat will be set for Sunday, March 16th (11:59 PM GMT).
Cheers all. Please just let me know if you spot any mistakes.
Trout
DC-138
A Diplomaticcorp Game
Fall of the American Empire 4 Variant
Game Started:
Current Turn:
Spring 2006
Next Deadline:
Summer 2006 Retreats
Sunday, March 16th (11:59 PM GMT)
The Rowdy Cast
British Columbia
Andrew Tanner
damienthryn AT gmail DOT com
California
Bruce Ray
Raybrucea AT aol DOT com
Cuba
Jason K.
Githraine AT yahoo DOT com
Florida
Lee Moore
agenbite DOT lee AT gmail DOT com
Heartland
Andy Ski
a_c_2bcool AT hotmail DOT com
Mexico
Bruce Quinn
coebq AT yahoo DOT com
New York
Rob Ackerley
rob_ackerley AT yahoo DOT ca
Peru
Alex Schmidt
wecanworkthisout AT yahoo DOT com
Quebec
Mike Sims
mike AT southwall DOT com
Texas
Nathan Deily
nedily AT yahoo DOT com
Humble GM:
Former Trout
former DOT trout AT gmail DOT com
CURRENT SEASON:
SPRING 2006 ORDERS:
BRITISH COLUMBIA :
F MPO H
OK
F Van - Anc
OK
F Anc - ARO
OK
F Gre - NAO
[BOUNCE with NAO 1:1]
F SOL s ( Quebec ) F NSC - GSL
OK
A Min s (HL) A Chi-Mil
VOID (No Such Order)
A Won s (HL) A Ont
OK
A Man - Non
OK
A Non - Abi
OK
A Mon - Bea
OK
CALIFORNIA :
North Pacific - WCO (West Coast?)
OK
Baja - Gulf of California
[BOUNCE with GUA 1:1]
Oklahoma - Missouri
OK
Kansas s Oklahoma - Missouri
OK
Nebraska s Oklahoma - Missouri
OK
San Antonio - Houston
[BOUNCE with HOU 2:2]
Dallas s San Antonio - Houston
OK
West Texas s Dallas
OK
New Mexico s Dallas
OK
Arizona - Colorado
OK
CUBA :
A Bogota - Vichada
OK
F Cali (nc) - South Caribbean Sea
[BOUNCE with WES 1:1]
F East Caribbean Sea - Venezuela
OK
FLORIDA :
A Hou holds
OK
A in Lou supports A in Hou holding
OK
A Ark holds
OK
A Ten supports A Ark holding
OK
A Dos supports A Ark Holding
OK
A Geo supports A Ten supporting A Ark
OK
A Hav to Cam
OK
F Mia to Sof
OK
F Sof to GoM
OK
F Kin to ECS
OK
F Les supports F Kin to ECS
OK
F WeS to Scs
[BOUNCE with CAL 1:1]
HEARTLAND:
A Chicago - Indiana
[BOUNCE with IND 1:1]
A Milwaukee - Upper Peninsula
[BOUNCE with MIC 1:1]
A Missouri - Kentucky
OK
A Ontario Supports A Montreal
VOID (Unit Ordered To Move)
MEXICO :
A Pot - Mex
OK
F Gua - GCa
[BOUNCE with BAJ 1:1]
F Ver - GoC
OK
F Gut - CoM
OK
F GoF - CoB
OK
A Nic holds
OK
A Yuc holds
OK
A NLe holds
OK
F Pan - GMo
OK
F Lima - Gal
OK
NEW YORK :
A Beauce - Gaspesie
OK
F Gulf of St-Lawrence - New Brunswick (sc)
VOID [DISLODGED by NSC 2:1]
A Indiana Supports A Tennessee - Kentucky
[CUT by CHI]
F Massachusetts Bay Supports F Gulf of St-Lawrence - New Brunswick (sc)
VOID
A Michigan - Upper Peninsula
[BOUNCE with MIL 1:1]
F North Atlantic Ocean - Nova Scotia
[BOUNCE with NBR 1:1]
A New York State - Ontario
[BOUNCE with ONT 1:2]
QUEBEC :
F NSc-GSL
OK
F NBr/nc-NSc
[BOUNCE with NAO 1:1]
SUMMER 2006 RETREATS:
New York F Gulf of St-Lawrence may retreat to Nfl, Lab, Cot, Que or OTB
UNIT / SUPPLY CENTER BREAKDOWN
------------------------------
BRITISH COLUMBIA :
10 Supply Centers - Anc, Van, Cgy, Was, Haw,
Man, Min, Ung, Gre, Mon
5 Armies - Min, Bea, Abi, Won, Non
5 Fleets - Mpo, Sol, Gre, Aro, Anc
CALIFORNIA :
10 Supply Centers - Sfr, Los, Sdi, Ore , Ari , Col ,
Chh , Kan , San, Dal
8 Armies - Mis, Dal, Wte, San, Kan , Neb , Nme , Col
2 Fleets - Baj, Wco
CUBA :
3 Supply Centers - Ven , Cal , Bog
1 Army - Vic
2 Fleets - Cal(nc), Ven
FLORIDA :
12 Supply Centers - Jac, Tam, Mia, Ten, Geo, Nca,
Lou, Hou, Hol, Dom, Hav, Kin
7 Armies - Ten, Hou , Ark , Lou, Cam , Geo, Dso
5 Fleets - Les, Wcs, Ecs, Gom, Sof
HEARTLAND:
4 Supply Centers - Mil, Mis, Chi, Ont
4 Armies - Chi, Ont, Ken, Mil
0 Fleets -
MEXICO :
10 Supply Centers - Gua, Mex, Ver, Gut, Dur, Nle,
Nic, Lim, Pan, Yuc
4 Armies - Nic, Mex, Nle, Yuc
6 Fleets - Cob, Gal, Gmo, Com, Goc, Gua
NEW YORK :
7 Supply Centers - Nyc, Nje, Phi, Mas, Ohi, Wdc,
Mic
4 Armies - Bea, Mic, Ind , Nys
3 Fleets - Mab, [Gsl], Nao
QUEBEC :
2 Supply Centers - Que, Nsc
0 Armies -
2 Fleets - Gsl, Nbr(nc)
TEXAS - ELIMINATED 2004
PERU - ELIMINATED 2005
NEXT DEADLINE: SUMMER 2006 RETREATS DUE SUNDAY, MARCH 16TH (11:59 PM GMT)!!
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| DC138 Winter Of Our Discontent - Spring 2006 - Hard On Equipment (dc138) Raybrucea at aol.com Mar 17, 11:07 am |
In a message dated 3/15/2008 3:37:24 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, rob_ackerley(at)yahoo.ca writes:
3rd world inter-fucking-net...
Only parts of New York qualify as third world. There are first world, second world and other world parts as well.
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| DC138 Winter Of Our Discontent - Spring 2006 - Hard On Equipment (dc138) Raybrucea at aol.com Mar 20, 12:04 pm |
In a message dated 3/19/2008 6:06:15 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, rob_ackerley(at)yahoo.ca writes:
In the same way a E/G/F alliance or a T/I/A alliance in Vanilla Dip cannot last.
On this I differ. I have successfully played both all game to a three way. Of course, not with Sims as a partner so if you are making a SPECIFIC argument in his case, I'll concede the point.
Ray
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| DC138 Winter Of Our Discontent - Spring 2006 - Har... - Raybrucea at aol.com (Mar 17, 2008, 11:07 am) |
In a message dated 3/15/2008 3:37:24 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, rob_ackerley(at)yahoo.ca writes:
3rd world inter-fucking-net...
Only parts of New York qualify as third world. There are first world, second world and other world parts as well.
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| DC138 - End-Game Proposal - former.trout (Mar 17, 2008, 12:56 am) |
You remind yourself 16 times to write something, then forget to do it when the time comes.. Sorry folks..
A BC / California draw has been proposed for DC-138. Please let me hear your yay and nay votes with your Fall 2006 orders (Friday, march 21st.) Not voting will count as a no.
Cheers!
Trout[Reply] |
| DC138 - Winter Of Our Discontent - Fall Of The Ame... - test_gm (Sep 13, 2007, 12:00 am) |
And from the wreck, wrack and ruin of the American Empire comes the Winter Of Our Discontent...
Announcing the launch of DC-138 - a game of the Fall of the American Empire variant. I'm pretty excited about this one - we have a great mix of old, scarred veterans and eager young faces in the fray. It should definitely be a gooder.
Country assignments are listed below, as is the opening blurb of the game. Before we begin though, just wanted to highlight a couple points.
- Total number of supply centers in the game is 58. That gives a solo condition of 30 centers. (Half plus one.)
- Keep in mind the two rivers in the game - the St. Lawrence and the Mississippi. Fleet movement is allowed along these as though the land-locked province was a coastal one.
- Chicago acts like Kiel in a standard game. It has no coasts and fleets can move through it.
- There are two land-bridges to remember as well. Unit movement is allowed between Nunavut-Ungava and Upper Peninsula-Michigan
- PLEASE write DC138 in the subject header of all order submittals. It helps me a lot and is greatly appreciated. =)
As far as scheduling goes, I will try to keep on average a weeks space between the major turns (Spring and Fall.) Time for retreats and Winter adjustments will be fit into this time-frame. If anyone has trouble with WEEKEND ACCESS to the net, please let me know NOW.
That's all I have at the moment. If anyone has any questions, no matter how minor they might seem, please just drop me a line. We'll set the clock for Spring 2001 orders with the deadline for Monday, December 10th (11:59 PM GMT)!!
Game On!
DC-139 A Diplomaticcorp Game Fall of the American Empire 4 Variant Game Started:
Current Turn: Winter 2000
Next Deadline: Spring 2001 Orders Monday, December 10th (11:59 PM GMT)
The Rowdy Cast
British Columbia Andrew Tanner damienthryn(at)gmail.com ([email]damienthryn(at)gmail.com[/email]) California Neil Luceno luck2582(at)yahoo.com ([email]luck2582(at)yahoo.com[/email]) Cuba Felix Kamchung felixkamchung(at)mac.com ([email]felixkamchung(at)mac.com[/email]) Florida Lee Moore agenbite.lee(at)gmail.com ([email]agenbite.lee(at)gmail.com[/email]) Heartland Andy Ski a_c_2bcool(at)yahoo.com ([email]a_c_2bcool(at)yahoo.com[/email]) Mexico Bruce Quinn coebq(at)yahoo.com ([email]coebq(at)yahoo.com[/email]) New York Rob Ackerley rob_ackerley(at)yahoo.ca ([email]rob_ackerley(at)yahoo.ca[/email]) Peru Alex Schmidt wecanworkthisout(at)yahoo.com ([email]wecanworkthisout(at)yahoo.com[/email]) Quebec Mike Sims mike(at)southwall.com ([email]mike(at)southwall.com[/email]) Texas Nathan Deily ndeily(at)yahoo.com ([email]ndeily(at)yahoo.com[/email])
Humble GM: Former Trout former.trout(at)gmail.com ([email]former.trout(at)gmail.com[/email])
UNIT / SUPPLY CENTER BREAKDOWN ------------------------------
BRITISH COLUMBIA: 3 Supply Centers - Anc, Van, Cgy 2 Armies - Van, Cgy 1 Fleet - Anc
CALIFORNIA: 3 Supply Centers - Sfr, Los, Sdi 2 Armies - Sfr, Los 1 Fleet - Sdi
CUBA: 3 Supply Centers - Hav, Hol, Kin 1 Army - Hol 2 Fleets - Hav, Kin
FLORIDA: 3 Supply Centers - Jac, Tam, Mia 2 Armies - Jac, Tam 1 Fleet - Mia
HEARTLAND: 3 Supply Centers - Min, Mil, Chi 3 Armies - Min, Mil, Chi 0 Fleets -
MEXICO: 3 Supply Centers - Gua, Mex, Ver 2 Armies - Ver, Mex 1 Fleet - Gua
NEW YORK: 3 Supply Centers - Nyc, Nje, Phi 2 Armies - Nje, Phi 1 Fleet - Nyc
PERU: 3 Supply Centers - Lim, Cal, Bog 1 Army - Bog 2 Fleets - Cal(nc), Lim
QUEBEC: 3 Supply Centers - Mon, Que, Ung 1 Army - Mon 2 Fleets - Ung, Que
TEXAS: 3 Supply Centers - Dal, San, Hou 2 Armies - Dal, San 1 Fleet - Hou
NEXT DEADLINE: SPRING 2001 ORDERS DUE MONDAY, DECEMBER 10TH (11:59 PM GMT)!!
FALL OF THE AMERICAN EMPIRE (version 4)
A Variant of Diplomacy
by Vincent Mous (96-9
Downloaded from: Diplomaticcorp.com
A play-by-email Diplomacy community
** Setting:
* It's January 2001 and the United States of America has been
dissolved.
The country is in ruins and in a state of anarchy except 5 states
where new 'Republics' have arisen. Florida, Texas and California
maintain some semblance of order within their old borders. In the
north-east, New York has formed a union with Pennsylvania and New
Jersey to stand together in the coming wars. Chicago, Milwaukee and
Minneapolis have done likewise, calling themselves the 'Heartland' of
America...
* Canada has split up and may soon be in a state of civil war.
Meanwhile, the events in the United States have caused Quebec to
secede from Canada. Western Canada soon followed suit, under the
leadership of British Columbia and joined with American renegades in
Alaska. The central Canadian government has fallen and is in
disarray...
* Mexico has been reduced to the states around Mexico city.
In the south, the increasingly strong drug lords and industrial mafia
have rested control of northern Mexico away from the government, while
the rebellion of Chiapas has spread to other southern Mexican states.
Under siege, Mexico's government prepares to strike back...
* Cuba and Peru, stronger than ever, are building up their militaries.
Taking advantage of the chaos on the North American continent, Cuba
invades Jamaica and prepares to spread its influence further abroad,
while Peru takes control of Colombia and turns its eyes northwards...
* What will the New World Order look like in North America?
This is the setting at the start of the Empire variant of Diplomacy,
where you play one of 10 new or old nations in a bid to conquer North
America. Can you lead your country to North American domination?
** Countries:
BC (B): F Anchorage, A Calgary, A Vancouver
California (C): A Los Angeles, F San Diego, A San Francisco
Florida (F): A Jacksonville, F Miami, A Tampa
Heartland (H): A Chicago, A Milwaukee, A Minneapolis
NewYork (N): A New Jersey, F New York City, A Philadelphia
Quebec (Q): A Montreal, F Quebec City, F Ungava
Peru (P): A Bogota, F Cali/NC, F Lima
Texas (T): A Dallas, F Houston, A San Antonio
Cuba (U): F Havana, A Holguin, F Kingston
Mexico (X): F Guadalajara, A Mexico City, A Veracruz
** Map Notes:
* Great Lakes
Fleets cannot move directly from one Great Lake to another, except
from Lake Michigan to Lake Huron.
* Canals
There are a few one-space canals that act like Kiel in Vanilla dip.
This means that the spaces have no coasts and fleets can exit on any
side.
- Panama
- Ontario
- Michigan
- Upper Peninsula
- Chicago (see below)
Empire 4 has one more Canal, the Hudson Canal between New York City
and New York State. Fleets can move from one to the other.
* Waterways
There are two waterways in Empire4 where fleets can move as though
there were a coastline in the listed territories. These rivers do not
impede army movement:
- Mississippi (Chicago, Missouri, Kentucky, Tennessee, Arkansas, Deep
South, Louisiana)
- St-Lawrence (Beauce, Montreal, NYS, Ontario, Quebec, Gaspe)
For example, a fleet could move from Tennessee to any of Kentucky,
Missouri, Arkansas or Deep South.
* Landbridges
- Units can move between Ungava and Nunavut. This does not block
movement between Hudson Bay and the Sea of Labrador.
- Units can move between Michigan and the Upper Peninsula. This does
not block movement between Lake Michigan and Lake Huron.
------------------------------------------------------------------------
* Diplomacy is a trademark of Hasbro, Inc., all rights reserved.
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| DC138 - Winter Of Our Discontent - Fall Of The Ame... - test_gm (Sep 13, 2007, 12:00 am) |
Just lazily grabbing all your email addresses... will write to all shortly...
Rob... apparently just off Broadway
----- Original Message ----
From: Former Trout <former.trout(at)gmail.com>
To: Alexander Schmidt <wecanworkthisout(at)yahoo.com>; Andrew Clarke <a_c_2bcool(at)hotmail.com>; Andrew Tanner <damienthryn(at)gmail.com>; Bruce Quinn <coebq(at)yahoo.com>; Felix Kamchung <felixkamchung(at)mac.com>; Mike Sims <mike(at)southwall.com>; Nathan Deily <ndeily(at)yahoo.com>; Neil Luceno <luck2582(at)yahoo.com>; Rob Ackerley <rob_ackerley(at)yahoo.ca>; Samuel Smith <agenbite.lee(at)gmail.com>; Steve Lytton <stevelytton(at)hotmail.com>
Cc: forum(at)diplomaticcorp.com; diplomaticcorp <DiplomaticCorp(at)yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, December 2, 2007 10:14:45 AM
Subject: DC138 - Winter Of Our Discontent - Fall Of The American Empire Launch
And from the wreck, wrack and ruin of the American Empire comes the Winter Of Our Discontent...
Announcing the launch of DC-138 - a game of the Fall of the American Empire variant. I'm pretty excited about this one - we have a great mix of old, scarred veterans and eager young faces in the fray. It should definitely be a gooder.
Country assignments are listed below, as is the opening blurb of the game. Before we begin though, just wanted to highlight a couple points.
- Total number of supply centers in the game is 58. That gives a solo condition of 30 centers. (Half plus one.)
- Keep in mind the two rivers in the game - the St. Lawrence and the Mississippi. Fleet movement is allowed along these as though the land-locked province was a coastal one.
- Chicago acts like Kiel in a standard game. It has no coasts and fleets can move through it.
- There are two land-bridges to remember as well. Unit movement is allowed between Nunavut-Ungava and Upper Peninsula-Michigan
- PLEASE write DC138 in the subject header of all order submittals. It helps me a lot and is greatly appreciated. =)
As far as scheduling goes, I will try to keep on average a weeks space between the major turns (Spring and Fall.) Time for retreats and Winter adjustments will be fit into this time-frame. If anyone has trouble with WEEKEND ACCESS to the net, please let me know NOW.
That's all I have at the moment. If anyone has any questions, no matter how minor they might seem, please just drop me a line. We'll set the clock for Spring 2001 orders with the deadline for Monday, December 10th (11:59 PM GMT)!!
Game On!
DC-139 A Diplomaticcorp Game Fall of the American Empire 4 Variant Game Started:
Current Turn: Winter 2000
Next Deadline: Spring 2001 Orders Monday, December 10th (11:59 PM GMT)
The Rowdy Cast
British Columbia Andrew Tanner damienthryn(at)gmail.com ([email]damienthryn(at)gmail.com[/email]) California Neil Luceno luck2582(at)yahoo.com ([email]luck2582(at)yahoo.com[/email]) Cuba Felix Kamchung felixkamchung(at)mac.com ([email]felixkamchung(at)mac.com[/email]) Florida Lee Moore agenbite.lee(at)gmail.com ([email]agenbite.lee(at)gmail.com[/email]) Heartland Andy Ski a_c_2bcool(at)yahoo.com ([email]a_c_2bcool(at)yahoo.com[/email]) Mexico Bruce Quinn coebq(at)yahoo.com ([email]coebq(at)yahoo.com[/email]) New York Rob Ackerley rob_ackerley(at)yahoo.ca ([email]rob_ackerley(at)yahoo.ca[/email]) Peru Alex Schmidt wecanworkthisout(at)yahoo.com ([email]wecanworkthisout(at)yahoo.com[/email]) Quebec Mike Sims mike(at)southwall.com ([email]mike(at)southwall.com[/email]) Texas Nathan Deily ndeily(at)yahoo.com ([email]ndeily(at)yahoo.com[/email])
Humble GM: Former Trout former.trout(at)gmail.com ([email]former.trout(at)gmail.com[/email])
UNIT / SUPPLY CENTER BREAKDOWN ------------------------------
BRITISH COLUMBIA: 3 Supply Centers - Anc, Van, Cgy 2 Armies - Van, Cgy 1 Fleet - Anc
CALIFORNIA: 3 Supply Centers - Sfr, Los, Sdi 2 Armies - Sfr, Los 1 Fleet - Sdi
CUBA: 3 Supply Centers - Hav, Hol, Kin 1 Army - Hol 2 Fleets - Hav, Kin
FLORIDA: 3 Supply Centers - Jac, Tam, Mia 2 Armies - Jac, Tam 1 Fleet - Mia
HEARTLAND: 3 Supply Centers - Min, Mil, Chi 3 Armies - Min, Mil, Chi 0 Fleets -
MEXICO: 3 Supply Centers - Gua, Mex, Ver 2 Armies - Ver, Mex 1 Fleet - Gua
NEW YORK: 3 Supply Centers - Nyc, Nje, Phi 2 Armies - Nje, Phi 1 Fleet - Nyc
PERU: 3 Supply Centers - Lim, Cal, Bog 1 Army - Bog 2 Fleets - Cal(nc), Lim
QUEBEC: 3 Supply Centers - Mon, Que, Ung 1 Army - Mon 2 Fleets - Ung, Que
TEXAS: 3 Supply Centers - Dal, San, Hou 2 Armies - Dal, San 1 Fleet - Hou
NEXT DEADLINE: SPRING 2001 ORDERS DUE MONDAY, DECEMBER 10TH (11:59 PM GMT)!!
FALL OF THE AMERICAN EMPIRE (version 4)
A Variant of Diplomacy
by Vincent Mous (96-9
Downloaded from: Diplomaticcorp.com
A play-by-email Diplomacy community
** Setting:
* It's January 2001 and the United States of America has been
dissolved.
The country is in ruins and in a state of anarchy except 5 states
where new 'Republics' have arisen. Florida, Texas and California
maintain some semblance of order within their old borders. In the
north-east, New York has formed a union with Pennsylvania and New
Jersey to stand together in the coming wars. Chicago, Milwaukee and
Minneapolis have done likewise, calling themselves the 'Heartland' of
America...
* Canada has split up and may soon be in a state of civil war.
Meanwhile, the events in the United States have caused Quebec to
secede from Canada. Western Canada soon followed suit, under the
leadership of British Columbia and joined with American renegades in
Alaska. The central Canadian government has fallen and is in
disarray...
* Mexico has been reduced to the states around Mexico city.
In the south, the increasingly strong drug lords and industrial mafia
have rested control of northern Mexico away from the government, while
the rebellion of Chiapas has spread to other southern Mexican states.
Under siege, Mexico's government prepares to strike back...
* Cuba and Peru, stronger than ever, are building up their militaries.
Taking advantage of the chaos on the North American continent, Cuba
invades Jamaica and prepares to spread its influence further abroad,
while Peru takes control of Colombia and turns its eyes northwards...
* What will the New World Order look like in North America?
This is the setting at the start of the Empire variant of Diplomacy,
where you play one of 10 new or old nations in a bid to conquer North
America. Can you lead your country to North American domination?
** Countries:
BC (B): F Anchorage, A Calgary, A Vancouver
California (C): A Los Angeles, F San Diego, A San Francisco
Florida (F): A Jacksonville, F Miami, A Tampa
Heartland (H): A Chicago, A Milwaukee, A Minneapolis
NewYork (N): A New Jersey, F New York City, A Philadelphia
Quebec (Q): A Montreal, F Quebec City, F Ungava
Peru (P): A Bogota, F Cali/NC, F Lima
Texas (T): A Dallas, F Houston, A San Antonio
Cuba (U): F Havana, A Holguin, F Kingston
Mexico (X): F Guadalajara, A Mexico City, A Veracruz
** Map Notes:
* Great Lakes
Fleets cannot move directly from one Great Lake to another, except
from Lake Michigan to Lake Huron.
* Canals
There are a few one-space canals that act like Kiel in Vanilla dip.
This means that the spaces have no coasts and fleets can exit on any
side.
- Panama
- Ontario
- Michigan
- Upper Peninsula
- Chicago (see below)
Empire 4 has one more Canal, the Hudson Canal between New York City
and New York State. Fleets can move from one to the other.
* Waterways
There are two waterways in Empire4 where fleets can move as though
there were a coastline in the listed territories. These rivers do not
impede army movement:
- Mississippi (Chicago, Missouri, Kentucky, Tennessee, Arkansas, Deep
South, Louisiana)
- St-Lawrence (Beauce, Montreal, NYS, Ontario, Quebec, Gaspe)
For example, a fleet could move from Tennessee to any of Kentucky,
Missouri, Arkansas or Deep South.
* Landbridges
- Units can move between Ungava and Nunavut. This does not block
movement between Hudson Bay and the Sea of Labrador.
- Units can move between Michigan and the Upper Peninsula. This does
not block movement between Lake Michigan and Lake Huron.
------------------------------------------------------------------------
* Diplomacy is a trademark of Hasbro, Inc., all rights reserved.
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| DC138 - Winter Of Our Discontent - Fall Of The Ame... - test_gm (Sep 13, 2007, 12:00 am) |
Really excited about this game. Good Luck and Have Fun everyone!
I am one of those internet-less weekends people. It is usually a challenge for me to have any time of weekend access.
Alex
----- Original Message ----
From: Former Trout <former.trout(at)gmail.com>
To: Alexander Schmidt <wecanworkthisout(at)yahoo.com>; Andrew Clarke <a_c_2bcool(at)hotmail.com>; Andrew Tanner <damienthryn(at)gmail.com>; Bruce Quinn <coebq(at)yahoo.com>; Felix Kamchung <felixkamchung(at)mac.com>; Mike Sims <mike(at)southwall.com>; Nathan Deily <ndeily(at)yahoo.com>; Neil Luceno <luck2582(at)yahoo.com>; Rob Ackerley <rob_ackerley(at)yahoo.ca>; Samuel Smith <agenbite.lee(at)gmail.com>; Steve Lytton <stevelytton(at)hotmail.com>
Cc: forum(at)diplomaticcorp.com; diplomaticcorp <DiplomaticCorp(at)yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, December 2, 2007 8:14:45 AM
Subject: DC138 - Winter Of Our Discontent - Fall Of The American Empire Launch
And from the wreck, wrack and ruin of the American Empire comes the Winter Of Our Discontent...
Announcing the launch of DC-138 - a game of the Fall of the American Empire variant. I'm pretty excited about this one - we have a great mix of old, scarred veterans and eager young faces in the fray. It should definitely be a gooder.
Country assignments are listed below, as is the opening blurb of the game. Before we begin though, just wanted to highlight a couple points.
- Total number of supply centers in the game is 58. That gives a solo condition of 30 centers. (Half plus one.)
- Keep in mind the two rivers in the game - the St. Lawrence and the Mississippi. Fleet movement is allowed along these as though the land-locked province was a coastal one.
- Chicago acts like Kiel in a standard game. It has no coasts and fleets can move through it.
- There are two land-bridges to remember as well. Unit movement is allowed between Nunavut-Ungava and Upper Peninsula-Michigan
- PLEASE write DC138 in the subject header of all order submittals. It helps me a lot and is greatly appreciated. =)
As far as scheduling goes, I will try to keep on average a weeks space between the major turns (Spring and Fall.) Time for retreats and Winter adjustments will be fit into this time-frame. If anyone has trouble with WEEKEND ACCESS to the net, please let me know NOW.
That's all I have at the moment. If anyone has any questions, no matter how minor they might seem, please just drop me a line. We'll set the clock for Spring 2001 orders with the deadline for Monday, December 10th (11:59 PM GMT)!!
Game On!
DC-139 A Diplomaticcorp Game Fall of the American Empire 4 Variant Game Started:
Current Turn: Winter 2000
Next Deadline: Spring 2001 Orders Monday, December 10th (11:59 PM GMT)
The Rowdy Cast
British Columbia Andrew Tanner damienthryn(at)gmail.com ([email]damienthryn(at)gmail.com[/email]) California Neil Luceno luck2582(at)yahoo.com ([email]luck2582(at)yahoo.com[/email]) Cuba Felix Kamchung felixkamchung(at)mac.com ([email]felixkamchung(at)mac.com[/email]) Florida Lee Moore agenbite.lee(at)gmail.com ([email]agenbite.lee(at)gmail.com[/email]) Heartland Andy Ski a_c_2bcool(at)yahoo.com ([email]a_c_2bcool(at)yahoo.com[/email]) Mexico Bruce Quinn coebq(at)yahoo.com ([email]coebq(at)yahoo.com[/email]) New York Rob Ackerley rob_ackerley(at)yahoo.ca ([email]rob_ackerley(at)yahoo.ca[/email]) Peru Alex Schmidt wecanworkthisout(at)yahoo.com ([email]wecanworkthisout(at)yahoo.com[/email]) Quebec Mike Sims mike(at)southwall.com ([email]mike(at)southwall.com[/email]) Texas Nathan Deily ndeily(at)yahoo.com ([email]ndeily(at)yahoo.com[/email])
Humble GM: Former Trout former.trout(at)gmail.com ([email]former.trout(at)gmail.com[/email])
UNIT / SUPPLY CENTER BREAKDOWN ------------------------------
BRITISH COLUMBIA: 3 Supply Centers - Anc, Van, Cgy 2 Armies - Van, Cgy 1 Fleet - Anc
CALIFORNIA: 3 Supply Centers - Sfr, Los, Sdi 2 Armies - Sfr, Los 1 Fleet - Sdi
CUBA: 3 Supply Centers - Hav, Hol, Kin 1 Army - Hol 2 Fleets - Hav, Kin
FLORIDA: 3 Supply Centers - Jac, Tam, Mia 2 Armies - Jac, Tam 1 Fleet - Mia
HEARTLAND: 3 Supply Centers - Min, Mil, Chi 3 Armies - Min, Mil, Chi 0 Fleets -
MEXICO: 3 Supply Centers - Gua, Mex, Ver 2 Armies - Ver, Mex 1 Fleet - Gua
NEW YORK: 3 Supply Centers - Nyc, Nje, Phi 2 Armies - Nje, Phi 1 Fleet - Nyc
PERU: 3 Supply Centers - Lim, Cal, Bog 1 Army - Bog 2 Fleets - Cal(nc), Lim
QUEBEC: 3 Supply Centers - Mon, Que, Ung 1 Army - Mon 2 Fleets - Ung, Que
TEXAS: 3 Supply Centers - Dal, San, Hou 2 Armies - Dal, San 1 Fleet - Hou
NEXT DEADLINE: SPRING 2001 ORDERS DUE MONDAY, DECEMBER 10TH (11:59 PM GMT)!!
FALL OF THE AMERICAN EMPIRE (version 4)
A Variant of Diplomacy
by Vincent Mous (96-9
Downloaded from: Diplomaticcorp.com
A play-by-email Diplomacy community
** Setting:
* It's January 2001 and the United States of America has been
dissolved.
The country is in ruins and in a state of anarchy except 5 states
where new 'Republics' have arisen. Florida, Texas and California
maintain some semblance of order within their old borders. In the
north-east, New York has formed a union with Pennsylvania and New
Jersey to stand together in the coming wars. Chicago, Milwaukee and
Minneapolis have done likewise, calling themselves the 'Heartland' of
America...
* Canada has split up and may soon be in a state of civil war.
Meanwhile, the events in the United States have caused Quebec to
secede from Canada. Western Canada soon followed suit, under the
leadership of British Columbia and joined with American renegades in
Alaska. The central Canadian government has fallen and is in
disarray...
* Mexico has been reduced to the states around Mexico city.
In the south, the increasingly strong drug lords and industrial mafia
have rested control of northern Mexico away from the government, while
the rebellion of Chiapas has spread to other southern Mexican states.
Under siege, Mexico's government prepares to strike back...
* Cuba and Peru, stronger than ever, are building up their militaries.
Taking advantage of the chaos on the North American continent, Cuba
invades Jamaica and prepares to spread its influence further abroad,
while Peru takes control of Colombia and turns its eyes northwards...
* What will the New World Order look like in North America?
This is the setting at the start of the Empire variant of Diplomacy,
where you play one of 10 new or old nations in a bid to conquer North
America. Can you lead your country to North American domination?
** Countries:
BC (B): F Anchorage, A Calgary, A Vancouver
California (C): A Los Angeles, F San Diego, A San Francisco
Florida (F): A Jacksonville, F Miami, A Tampa
Heartland (H): A Chicago, A Milwaukee, A Minneapolis
NewYork (N): A New Jersey, F New York City, A Philadelphia
Quebec (Q): A Montreal, F Quebec City, F Ungava
Peru (P): A Bogota, F Cali/NC, F Lima
Texas (T): A Dallas, F Houston, A San Antonio
Cuba (U): F Havana, A Holguin, F Kingston
Mexico (X): F Guadalajara, A Mexico City, A Veracruz
** Map Notes:
* Great Lakes
Fleets cannot move directly from one Great Lake to another, except
from Lake Michigan to Lake Huron.
* Canals
There are a few one-space canals that act like Kiel in Vanilla dip.
This means that the spaces have no coasts and fleets can exit on any
side.
- Panama
- Ontario
- Michigan
- Upper Peninsula
- Chicago (see below)
Empire 4 has one more Canal, the Hudson Canal between New York City
and New York State. Fleets can move from one to the other.
* Waterways
There are two waterways in Empire4 where fleets can move as though
there were a coastline in the listed territories. These rivers do not
impede army movement:
- Mississippi (Chicago, Missouri, Kentucky, Tennessee, Arkansas, Deep
South, Louisiana)
- St-Lawrence (Beauce, Montreal, NYS, Ontario, Quebec, Gaspe)
For example, a fleet could move from Tennessee to any of Kentucky,
Missouri, Arkansas or Deep South.
* Landbridges
- Units can move between Ungava and Nunavut. This does not block
movement between Hudson Bay and the Sea of Labrador.
- Units can move between Michigan and the Upper Peninsula. This does
not block movement between Lake Michigan and Lake Huron.
------------------------------------------------------------------------
* Diplomacy is a trademark of Hasbro, Inc., all rights reserved.
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| DC138 - WOOD - Spring 01 Deadline Reminder - test_gm (Sep 13, 2007, 12:00 am) |
Hi everyone,
Please note that Spring 01 orders for our Fall Of The American Empire game (DC-13 are due in just under 43 hours. I do not currently have all sets in hand.
Carry on!
Trout[Reply] |
| DC138 - Spring 01 NMR Replacement and Extension - test_gm (Sep 13, 2007, 12:00 am) |
Hi guys,
Unfortunately, our first game turn has been marred by an abandonment. I have received no word from Neil (California) since he dropped me a line shortly after the game launch requesting RP files. However, I have lined up a replacement in just such an event and am happy to welcome Bruce Ray to the game as the new California. Bruces email addy is ( Raybrucea(at)aol.com ([email]Raybrucea(at)aol.com[/email])).
We'll extend the Spring 01 turn a few days to give everyone a chance to diplome with our new compatriot. Revised deadline will be set for Friday, December 14th (11:59 PM GMT).
Cheers!
Trout
DC-139 A Diplomaticcorp Game Fall of the American Empire 4 Variant Game Started:
Current Turn: Winter 2000
Next Deadline: Spring 2001 Orders Friday, December 14th (11:59 PM GMT)
The Rowdy Cast
British Columbia Andrew Tanner damienthryn(at)gmail.com ([email]damienthryn(at)gmail.com[/email]) California Bruce Ray Raybrucea(at)aol.com ([email]Raybrucea(at)aol.com[/email]) Cuba Felix Kamchung felixkamchung(at)mac.com ([email]felixkamchung(at)mac.com[/email]) Florida Lee Moore agenbite.lee(at)gmail.com ([email]agenbite.lee(at)gmail.com[/email]) Heartland Andy Ski a_c_2bcool(at)hotmail.com ([email]a_c_2bcool(at)hotmail.com[/email]) Mexico Bruce Quinn coebq(at)yahoo.com ([email]coebq(at)yahoo.com[/email]) New York Rob Ackerley rob_ackerley(at)yahoo.ca ([email]rob_ackerley(at)yahoo.ca[/email]) Peru Alex Schmidt wecanworkthisout(at)yahoo.com ([email]wecanworkthisout(at)yahoo.com[/email]) Quebec Mike Sims mike(at)southwall.com ([email]mike(at)southwall.com[/email]) Texas Nathan Deily ndeily(at)yahoo.com ([email]ndeily(at)yahoo.com[/email])
Humble GM: Former Trout former.trout(at)gmail.com ([email]former.trout(at)gmail.com[/email])
NEXT DEADLINE: SPRING 2001 ORDERS DUE FRIDAY, DECEMBER 14TH (11:59 PM GMT)!![Reply] |
| DC138 - Spring 01 NMR Replacement and Extension - test_gm (Sep 13, 2007, 12:00 am) |
NOT AGAINNOT RAY
WHERE IS MY X-RAY VISION GOGGLES
WHERE IS MY RAY-GUN
WHERE IS MY RAY BANS?
F
On Dec 11, 2007, at 7:15 AM, Former Trout wrote:
Hi guys,
Unfortunately, our first game turn has been marred by an abandonment. I have received no word from Neil (California) since he dropped me a line shortly after the game launch requesting RP files. However, I have lined up a replacement in just such an event and am happy to welcome Bruce Ray to the game as the new California. Bruces email addy is ( Raybrucea(at)aol.com ([email]Raybrucea(at)aol.com[/email])).
We'll extend the Spring 01 turn a few days to give everyone a chance to diplome with our new compatriot. Revised deadline will be set for Friday, December 14th (11:59 PM GMT).
Cheers!
Trout
DC-139 A Diplomaticcorp Game Fall of the American Empire 4 Variant Game Started:
Current Turn: Winter 2000
Next Deadline: Spring 2001 Orders Friday, December 14th (11:59 PM GMT)
The Rowdy Cast
British Columbia Andrew Tanner damienthryn(at)gmail.com ([email]damienthryn(at)gmail.com[/email]) California Bruce Ray Raybrucea(at)aol.com ([email]Raybrucea(at)aol.com[/email]) Cuba Felix Kamchung felixkamchung(at)mac.com ([email]felixkamchung(at)mac.com[/email]) Florida Lee Moore agenbite.lee(at)gmail.com ([email]agenbite.lee(at)gmail.com[/email]) Heartland Andy Ski a_c_2bcool(at)hotmail.com ([email]a_c_2bcool(at)hotmail.com[/email]) Mexico Bruce Quinn coebq(at)yahoo.com ([email]coebq(at)yahoo.com[/email]) New York Rob Ackerley rob_ackerley(at)yahoo.ca ([email]rob_ackerley(at)yahoo.ca[/email]) Peru Alex Schmidt wecanworkthisout(at)yahoo.com ([email]wecanworkthisout(at)yahoo.com[/email]) Quebec Mike Sims mike(at)southwall.com ([email]mike(at)southwall.com[/email]) Texas Nathan Deily ndeily(at)yahoo.com ([email]ndeily(at)yahoo.com[/email])
Humble GM: Former Trout former.trout(at)gmail.com ([email]former.trout(at)gmail.com[/email])
NEXT DEADLINE: SPRING 2001 ORDERS DUE FRIDAY, DECEMBER 14TH (11:59 PM GMT)!!
<Empire_start.gif><empire4_ra.gif> [Reply] |
| DC138 - Spring 01 NMR Replacement and Extension - test_gm (Sep 13, 2007, 12:00 am) |
Hello all. I'm Ray and seem to be entering this game as California after all of you have had a week or so to cut your separate deals and jointly agree to kill me. Oh, well. What else is new? To those of you who don't know me, I'm a wonderfully cooperative ally who never stabs and seeks only the betterment of my fellow man. To those of you who do know me, oh, well.
So far I have the map, which is completely new to me, but it has no units on it. So I have no clue yet where the various units start and which are fleets and which are armies. I will need this info before I can do any serious negotiation.
Once I have this info, I will contact each of you individually (except perhaps Felix and Sims--why bother?). In the interim, I'd love to hear from each of you individually. If you tell me who you are and what units you start with where, we can begin negotiations. Thanks.
Ray
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| DC138 - Spring 01 NMR Replacement and Extension - test_gm (Sep 13, 2007, 12:00 am) |
In a message dated 12/11/2007 11:29:07 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, felixkamchung(at)mac.com writes:
NOT AGAIN NOT RAY
WHERE IS MY X-RAY VISION GOGGLES
WHERE IS MY RAY-GUN
WHERE IS MY RAY BANS?
Don't know, but I'm your ray of sunshine.
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| DC138 - Spring 01 NMR Replacement and Extension - test_gm (Sep 13, 2007, 12:00 am) |
Like satans tongue spits out venom poisonous to the un initiated so does rays thank god he is closer to sims than I!!!!
On mobile will write more later!
On Dec 11, 2007, at 12:02 PM, Raybrucea(at)aol.com ([email]Raybrucea(at)aol.com[/email]) wrote:
Hello all. I'm Ray and seem to be entering this game as California after all of you have had a week or so to cut your separate deals and jointly agree to kill me. Oh, well. What else is new? To those of you who don't know me, I'm a wonderfully cooperative ally who never stabs and seeks only the betterment of my fellow man. To those of you who do know me, oh, well.
So far I have the map, which is completely new to me, but it has no units on it. So I have no clue yet where the various units start and which are fleets and which are armies. I will need this info before I can do any serious negotiation.
Once I have this info, I will contact each of you individually (except perhaps Felix and Sims--why bother?). In the interim, I'd love to hear from each of you individually. If you tell me who you are and what units you start with where, we can begin negotiations. Thanks.
Ray
See AOL's top rated recipes and easy ways to stay in shape for winter.
[Reply] |
| DC138 - WOOD - Spring 01 Deadline Reminder Redux - test_gm (Sep 13, 2007, 12:00 am) |
Heya folks,
Just a gentle word-of-mouth that the deadline for Spring 2001 orders falls in 20.5 hours. I currently have orders from everyone so we're good to go - but any order changes must be in within that time.
Cheers all!
Trout[Reply] |
| DC138 Winter Of Our Discontent Spring 2001 - Fiest... - test_gm (Sep 13, 2007, 12:00 am) |
The mighty oracle, Magic Eight-Ball, grants us with the following words of wisdom: No Way!
Ah what the hell. That's why it's only an eight-ball. =) Spring 2001 falls like a hammer and all across the continent, armies mobilize and fleets set sail. With the scramble for the neutral centers, its way too early to tell which directions everyone is headed. Still, clouds form in Saskatchewan and the waters in the Carribean look to claim their share of blood...
No retreats are required and we move happily into Fall 2001. Please have orders in to me by Friday, December 21st (11:59 PM GMT)!!
Also, please let me know if you spot any mistakes. Cheers!
Trout
DC-139 A Diplomaticcorp Game Fall of the American Empire 4 Variant Game Started:
Current Turn: Spring 2001
Next Deadline: Fall 2001 Orders Friday, December 21st (11:59 PM GMT)
The Rowdy Cast
British Columbia Andrew Tanner damienthryn(at)gmail.com ([email]damienthryn(at)gmail.com[/email]) California Bruce Ray Raybrucea(at)aol.com ([email]Raybrucea(at)aol.com[/email]) Cuba Felix Kamchung felixkamchung(at)mac.com ([email]felixkamchung(at)mac.com[/email]) Florida Lee Moore agenbite.lee(at)gmail.com ([email]agenbite.lee(at)gmail.com[/email]) Heartland Andy Ski a_c_2bcool(at)hotmail.com ([email]a_c_2bcool(at)hotmail.com[/email]) Mexico Bruce Quinn coebq(at)yahoo.com ([email]coebq(at)yahoo.com[/email]) New York Rob Ackerley rob_ackerley(at)yahoo.ca ([email]rob_ackerley(at)yahoo.ca[/email]) Peru Alex Schmidt wecanworkthisout(at)yahoo.com ([email]wecanworkthisout(at)yahoo.com[/email]) Quebec Mike Sims mike(at)southwall.com ([email]mike(at)southwall.com[/email]) Texas Nathan Deily ndeily(at)yahoo.com ([email]ndeily(at)yahoo.com[/email])
Humble GM: Former Trout former.trout(at)gmail.com ([email]former.trout(at)gmail.com[/email])
CURRENT SEASON:
SPRING 2001 ORDERS:
BRITISH COLUMBIA:
F Anc - GOA OK A Van - Was OK A Cgy - Sas OK
CALIFORNIA:
San Fran - Oregon OK Los Angeles - Nevada OK San Diego - Baja California OK
CUBA:
HAV-SOY OK HOL-CAM OK KIN-ECS OK
FLORIDA:
A Jac to Geo OK A Tam to Jac OK F Mia to ECo OK
HEARTLAND:
A Chicago - Missouri OK A Milwaukee - Upper Peninsula OK A Minneapolis - Manitoba OK
MEXICO:
F Gua to GCa (Gulf of California) OK A Mex to Gua OK A Ver to Chp OK
NEW YORK:
A New Jersey - New York City OK F New York City - Cape May OK A Philadelphia - West Pennsylvania OK
PERU:
A Bogota - Vichada OK F Cali(nc) - Panama OK
OK
QUEBEC:
F Ung-SOL
F Que-GSL OK A Mon-Ont OK
OK TEXAS:
F Houston to Gulf of Mexico OK A Dallas to Oklahoma OK A San Antonio to Nuevo Leon OK
UNIT / SUPPLY CENTER BREAKDOWN
------------------------------
BRITISH COLUMBIA:
3 Supply Centers - Anc, Van, Cgy
2 Armies - Was, Sas
1 Fleet - Goa
CALIFORNIA:
3 Supply Centers - Sfr, Los, Sdi
2 Armies - Ore, Nev
1 Fleet - Baj
CUBA:
3 Supply Centers - Hav, Hol, Kin
1 Army - Cam
2 Fleets - Soy, Ecs
FLORIDA:
3 Supply Centers - Jac, Tam, Mia
2 Armies - Geo, Jac
1 Fleet - Eco
HEARTLAND:
3 Supply Centers - Min, Mil, Chi
3 Armies - Mis, Upe, Man
0 Fleets -
MEXICO:
3 Supply Centers - Gua, Mex, Ver
2 Armies - Chp, Gua
1 Fleet - Gca
NEW YORK:
3 Supply Centers - Nyc, Nje, Phi
2 Armies - Nyc, Wpe
1 Fleet - May
PERU:
3 Supply Centers - Lim, Cal, Bog
1 Army - Vic
2 Fleets - Pan, Glp
QUEBEC:
3 Supply Centers - Mon, Que, Ung
1 Army - Ont
2 Fleets - Sol, Gsl
TEXAS:
3 Supply Centers - Dal, San, Hou
2 Armies - Okl, Nle
1 Fleet - Gom
NEXT DEADLINE: FALL 2001 ORDERS DUE FRIDAY, DEC 21ST (11:59 PM GMT)!![Reply] |
| DC138 - The Mysterious Spring 01 Peruvian Order - test_gm (Sep 13, 2007, 12:00 am) |
Hi guys,
Just noticed one of the Peruvian orders got cut off somehow. The mysterious missing Pervuian order for Spring 2001 was:
F Lima - Galapagos OK
Cheers!
Trout[Reply] |
| DC138 - WOOD - Fall 01 Deadline Reminder - test_gm (Sep 13, 2007, 12:00 am) |
Hey you Empire Elite!
Ask not who the bell doth toll... For it is chiming down another 41 hours to the Fall 01 deadline. I have half the order sets in, and am anxiously awaiting the rest. Cheers!
Trout[Reply] |
| DC138 Winter Of Our Discontent - Fall 2001 - Blue... - test_gm (Sep 13, 2007, 12:00 am) |
The word from the wise magic 8-ball for Fall 2001: "Outlook Not So Good"..
Interesting logic as the nations of North America rise from the ashes of Empire and lurch into a running start. A fairly bloodless one at that, as most energy is spent snapping up the neutrals with great success. A minor conflict is witnessed by the coyotes of Chihuahua, baking in the sun, as California and Mexico butt heads. Other than that, everyone seems to be getting along... Weird. =P
No retreats are required from the Fall moves. We'll move into Winter 2001 - and owing to some sort of major holiday that's going on right now, we'll set the deadline for Thursday, December 27th (11:59 PM GMT). Please just let me know if this either doesn't work for you, or if you spot any mistakes in the adjudication.
Cheers guys!
Trout
DC-139 A Diplomaticcorp Game Fall of the American Empire 4 Variant Game Started:
Current Turn: Fall 2001
Next Deadline: Winter 2001 Adjustments Thursday, December 27th (11:59 PM GMT)
The Rowdy Cast
British Columbia Andrew Tanner damienthryn(at)gmail.com ([email]damienthryn(at)gmail.com[/email]) California Bruce Ray Raybrucea(at)aol.com ([email]Raybrucea(at)aol.com[/email]) Cuba Felix Kamchung felixkamchung(at)mac.com ([email]felixkamchung(at)mac.com[/email]) Florida Lee Moore agenbite.lee(at)gmail.com ([email]agenbite.lee(at)gmail.com[/email]) Heartland Andy Ski a_c_2bcool(at)hotmail.com ([email]a_c_2bcool(at)hotmail.com[/email]) Mexico Bruce Quinn coebq(at)yahoo.com ([email]coebq(at)yahoo.com[/email]) New York Rob Ackerley rob_ackerley(at)yahoo.ca ([email]rob_ackerley(at)yahoo.ca[/email]) Peru Alex Schmidt wecanworkthisout(at)yahoo.com ([email]wecanworkthisout(at)yahoo.com[/email]) Quebec Mike Sims mike(at)southwall.com ([email]mike(at)southwall.com[/email]) Texas Nathan Deily ndeily(at)yahoo.com ([email]ndeily(at)yahoo.com[/email])
Humble GM: Former Trout former.trout(at)gmail.com ([email]former.trout(at)gmail.com[/email])
CURRENT SEASON:
FALL 2001 ORDERS:
TEXAS:
A Oklahoma-Colorado OK F Gulf of Mexico - Louisiana OK A Nuevo Leon H OK
BRITISH COLUMBIA:
F GoA - NPO OK A Was H OK A Sas - Nun OK
CALIFORNIA:
Oregon goes trout fishing [YOU SHOULD HAVE SEEN THE ONE THAT GOT AWAY] Nevada - Arizona OK Baja - Chihuahua [BOUNCE with GCA 1:1]
CUBA:
SOY-YUC OK CAM HOLDS OK ECS-DOM OK
FLORIDA:
A from Geo to Ten OK A from Jac to Geo OK F from East Coast to NCa OK
HEARTLAND:
A Manitoba, no move received [GM NOTE: HOLDS] OK A Missouri - Kansas OK A Upper Peninsula - Michigan OK
MEXICO:
A Gua to Dur OK A Chp to Gut OK F GCa to Chi [BOUNCE with BAJ 1:1]
NEW YORK:
F Cape May - Washington DC OK A New York City - Massachussets OK A West Pennsylvania - Ohio OK
PERU:
F Galapagos - Culf of Fonseca OK F Panama Hold OK A Vichada - Venezuela OK
QUEBEC:
F SOL-Gre OK F GSL-NSc OK A Ont declares French obsolete, English to be the new language of Quebec. [PQ LANGUAGE POLICE LAUNCH INVESTIGATION]
WINTER 2001 ADJUSTMENTS:
TEXAS: BUILDS 3 BRITISH COLUMBIA: BUILDS 1 CALIFORNIA: BUILDS 2 CUBA: BUILDS 2 FLORIDA: BUILDS 3 HEARTLAND: BUILDS 3 MEXICO: BUILDS 2 NEW YORK: BUILDS 3 PERU: BUILDS 2 QUEBEC: BUILDS 3
UNIT / SUPPLY CENTER BREAKDOWN
------------------------------
TEXAS:
3 Supply Centers - Dal, San, Hou GAIN: Col, Nle, Lou 2 Armies - Col, Nle LOSS: 1 Fleet - Lou BUILDS 3
BRITISH COLUMBIA:
3 Supply Centers - Anc, Van, Cgy GAIN: Was 2 Armies - Was, Nun LOSS: 1 Fleet - Npo BUILDS 1
CALIFORNIA:
3 Supply Centers - Sfr, Los, Sdi GAIN: Ore, Ari 2 Armies - Ore, Ari LOSS: 1 Fleet - Baj BUILDS 2
CUBA:
3 Supply Centers - Hav, Hol, Kin GAIN: Yuc, Dom 1 Army - Cam LOSS 2 Fleets - Yuc, Dom BUILDS 2
FLORIDA:
3 Supply Centers - Jac, Tam, Mia GAIN: Ten, Geo, Nca 2 Armies - Ten, Geo LOSS: 1 Fleet - Nca BUILDS 3
HEARTLAND:
3 Supply Centers - Min, Mil, Chi GAIN: Mic, Man, Kan 3 Armies - Kan, Mic, Man LOSS: 0 Fleets - BUILDS 3
MEXICO:
3 Supply Centers - Gua, Mex, Ver GAIN: Gut, Dur 2 Armies - Gut, Dur LOSS: 1 Fleet - Gca BUILDS 2
NEW YORK:
3 Supply Centers - Nyc, Nje, Phi GAIN: Mas, Ohi, Wdc 2 Armies - Mas, Ohi LOSS: 1 Fleet - Wdc BUILDS 3
PERU:
3 Supply Centers - Lim, Cal, Bog GAIN: Ven, Pan 1 Army - Ven LOSS: 2 Fleets - Pan, Gof BUILDS 2
QUEBEC:
3 Supply Centers - Mon, Que, Ung GAIN: Ont, Grl, Nsc 1 Army - Ont LOSS: 2 Fleets - Grl, Nsc BUILDS 3
NEXT DEADLINE: WINTER 2007 ADJUSTMENTS DUE THURSDAY, DECEMBER 27TH (11:59 PM GMT)!![Reply] |
| DC138 Winter Of Our Discontent - Fall 2001 - Blue... - test_gm (Sep 13, 2007, 12:00 am) |
All,
As it is just the winter turn, you think we can get them in by monday and maybe turn next Friday or following Monday??? No need for 6 days of winter... even around Christmas
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Subject: DC138 Winter Of Our Discontent - Fall 2001 - Blue Balloon
The word from the wise magic 8-ball for Fall 2001: "Outlook Not So Good"..
Interesting logic as the nations of North America rise from the ashes of Empire and lurch into a running start. A fairly bloodless one at that, as most energy is spent snapping up the neutrals with great success. A minor conflict is witnessed by the coyotes of Chihuahua, baking in the sun, as California and Mexico butt heads. Other than that, everyone seems to be getting along... Weird. =P
No retreats are required from the Fall moves. We'll move into Winter 2001 - and owing to some sort of major holiday that's going on right now, we'll set the deadline for Thursday, December 27th (11:59 PM GMT). Please just let me know if this either doesn't work for you, or if you spot any mistakes in the adjudication.
Cheers guys!
Trout
DC-139 A Diplomaticcorp Game Fall of the American Empire 4 Variant Game Started:
Current Turn: Fall 2001
Next Deadline: Winter 2001 Adjustments Thursday, December 27th (11:59 PM GMT)
The Rowdy Cast
British Columbia Andrew Tanner damienthryn(at)gmail.com ([email]damienthryn(at)gmail.com[/email]) California Bruce Ray Raybrucea(at)aol.com ([email]Raybrucea(at)aol.com[/email]) Cuba Felix Kamchung felixkamchung(at)mac.com ([email]felixkamchung(at)mac.com[/email]) Florida Lee Moore agenbite.lee(at)gmail.com ([email]agenbite.lee(at)gmail.com[/email]) Heartland Andy Ski a_c_2bcool(at)hotmail.com ([email]a_c_2bcool(at)hotmail.com[/email]) Mexico Bruce Quinn coebq(at)yahoo.com ([email]coebq(at)yahoo.com[/email]) New York Rob Ackerley rob_ackerley(at)yahoo.ca ([email]rob_ackerley(at)yahoo.ca[/email]) Peru Alex Schmidt wecanworkthisout(at)yahoo.com ([email]wecanworkthisout(at)yahoo.com[/email]) Quebec Mike Sims mike(at)southwall.com ([email]mike(at)southwall.com[/email]) Texas Nathan Deily ndeily(at)yahoo.com ([email]ndeily(at)yahoo.com[/email])
Humble GM: Former Trout former.trout(at)gmail.com ([email]former.trout(at)gmail.com[/email])
CURRENT SEASON:
FALL 2001 ORDERS:
TEXAS:
A Oklahoma-Colorado OK F Gulf of Mexico - Louisiana OK A Nuevo Leon H OK
BRITISH COLUMBIA:
F GoA - NPO OK A Was H OK A Sas - Nun OK
CALIFORNIA:
Oregon goes trout fishing [YOU SHOULD HAVE SEEN THE ONE THAT GOT AWAY] Nevada - Arizona OK Baja - Chihuahua [BOUNCE with GCA 1:1]
CUBA:
SOY-YUC OK CAM HOLDS OK ECS-DOM OK
FLORIDA:
A from Geo to Ten OK A from Jac to Geo OK F from East Coast to NCa OK
HEARTLAND:
A Manitoba, no move received [GM NOTE: HOLDS] OK A Missouri - Kansas OK A Upper Peninsula - Michigan OK
MEXICO:
A Gua to Dur OK A Chp to Gut OK F GCa to Chi [BOUNCE with BAJ 1:1]
NEW YORK:
F Cape May - Washington DC OK A New York City - Massachussets OK A West Pennsylvania - Ohio OK
PERU:
F Galapagos - Culf of Fonseca OK F Panama Hold OK A Vichada - Venezuela OK
QUEBEC:
F SOL-Gre OK F GSL-NSc OK A Ont declares French obsolete, English to be the new language of Quebec. [PQ LANGUAGE POLICE LAUNCH INVESTIGATION]
WINTER 2001 ADJUSTMENTS:
TEXAS: BUILDS 3 BRITISH COLUMBIA: BUILDS 1 CALIFORNIA: BUILDS 2 CUBA: BUILDS 2 FLORIDA: BUILDS 3 HEARTLAND: BUILDS 3 MEXICO: BUILDS 2 NEW YORK: BUILDS 3 PERU: BUILDS 2 QUEBEC: BUILDS 3
UNIT / SUPPLY CENTER BREAKDOWN
------------------------------
TEXAS:
3 Supply Centers - Dal, San, Hou GAIN: Col, Nle, Lou 2 Armies - Col, Nle LOSS: 1 Fleet - Lou BUILDS 3
BRITISH COLUMBIA:
3 Supply Centers - Anc, Van, Cgy GAIN: Was 2 Armies - Was, Nun LOSS: 1 Fleet - Npo BUILDS 1
CALIFORNIA:
3 Supply Centers - Sfr, Los, Sdi GAIN: Ore, Ari 2 Armies - Ore, Ari LOSS: 1 Fleet - Baj BUILDS 2
CUBA:
3 Supply Centers - Hav, Hol, Kin GAIN: Yuc, Dom 1 Army - Cam LOSS 2 Fleets - Yuc, Dom BUILDS 2
FLORIDA:
3 Supply Centers - Jac, Tam, Mia GAIN: Ten, Geo, Nca 2 Armies - Ten, Geo LOSS: 1 Fleet - Nca BUILDS 3
HEARTLAND:
3 Supply Centers - Min, Mil, Chi GAIN: Mic, Man, Kan 3 Armies - Kan, Mic, Man LOSS: 0 Fleets - BUILDS 3
MEXICO:
3 Supply Centers - Gua, Mex, Ver GAIN: Gut, Dur 2 Armies - Gut, Dur LOSS: 1 Fleet - Gca BUILDS 2
NEW YORK:
3 Supply Centers - Nyc, Nje, Phi GAIN: Mas, Ohi, Wdc 2 Armies - Mas, Ohi LOSS: 1 Fleet - Wdc BUILDS 3
PERU:
3 Supply Centers - Lim, Cal, Bog GAIN: Ven, Pan 1 Army - Ven LOSS: 2 Fleets - Pan, Gof BUILDS 2
QUEBEC:
3 Supply Centers - Mon, Que, Ung GAIN: Ont, Grl, Nsc 1 Army - Ont LOSS: 2 Fleets - Grl, Nsc BUILDS 3
NEXT DEADLINE: WINTER 2007 ADJUSTMENTS DUE THURSDAY, DECEMBER 27TH (11:59 PM GMT)!!
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