With regard to Nick, the original Austrian leader, my understanding is that Charles did not ask him to leave.  There's little doubt that a player not talking in a game based on talking whose position is in the center of the map is doing the overall game a disservice.  I was certainly not happy with it, and neither were at least some of the other players.  When Charles inquired to Nick about his unusual lack of engagement, Nick replied that RL had overwhelmed him and he was sticking with the game only out of minimal commitment.  Charles then offered to replace him, and Nick accepted, with very graceful apologies to all.

I'm glad to hear from Charles as to why there was no adjudication, which certainly isn't his fault.  That said, after having revived myself for Gabriele, I'm not looking forward to another delay in a game seemingly headed for stalemate anyway.  I would reluctantly prefer to end the game with a DIAS.


Jorge

On Sat, Feb 6, 2010 at 10:38 AM, Nigel PHILLIPS <nephilli99(at)hotmail.com ([email]nephilli99(at)hotmail.com[/email])> wrote:

FWIW, I was annoyed at the manner of austria's departure, and discussed with Dirk and Harvey my concern sat that stage, and was persuaded to carry on. From what I remember  it seemed to me that Charles was imposing a style of play as a requirement on someone who was submitting moves, but not talking. I prefer conversations with other players, but don't see silence as  areason for a player to be expelled. But I may be mis-remembering or misinterpreting. i am enjoying the actual play, and the variant and players. I'd happily try it again. I am reluctant to have the dias, because I'd love to see how the game might turn out, (will austria fall? will there be a mass stalemate in the centre?) but I wouldn't continue it with so many wishing to end it, so I wouldn't block the dias. I don't always understand Charles' messages, or share his reasoning 

Nigs

Date: Sat, 6 Feb 2010 10:09:24 -0700
Subject: Re: 1648 091010: Upcoming Adjucation

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Everyone -

OK.  I, too, vote for DIAS.

Time to move on.

Harvey

On Sat, Feb 6, 2010 at 10:00 AM, Dirk Knemeyer <dirk(at)knemeyer.com ([email]dirk(at)knemeyer.com[/email])> wrote:
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Hi Harvey,
 
For me, I try hard and take pride in always getting my turns in and completing my games. "Abandoning" a game is not something I would be happy with, personally. I would be fine either with a DIAS, or the game being disbanded like it never happened, or if Charles' real-life situation enables a timely resolution of the game.
 
FWIW while certainly annoyed at the game I am not upset with Charles, per se: I'm sure it is a case of good intentions gone awry thanks to real-life. That said, I would like to move on.
 
Dirk
 
From: Harvey Morris [mailto:hmtucaz(at)gmail.com ([email]hmtucaz(at)gmail.com[/email])]
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Subject: Re: 1648 091010: Upcoming Adjucation





 
Everyone -

My two cents.

I have never resigned from a game, and have never gone absent.

As some of you know, a week or two ago I wrote Charles to say that I was on the verge of resigning from this game.  That apparently prompted him to find a replacement for Sweden.

I am absolutely puzzled (and pissed) by Charles' newest message.  This is a Winter Adjustment Phase.  What the heck is there to adjudicate?

Please, talk to me about the merits of DIAS versus mass resignation from the game.

Regards to all from an angry Harvey
On Sat, Feb 6, 2010 at 9:21 AM, Jorge Saralegui <jmsaralegui(at)gmail.com ([email]jmsaralegui(at)gmail.com[/email])> wrote:
I would officially vote Yes for a DIAS, even though it deprives Nigs of his shot at the crown of the HRE.  Sometimes we have to make sacrifices for the greater good.
 

Jorge
 
On Sat, Feb 6, 2010 at 8:16 AM, Dirk Knemeyer <dirk(at)knemeyer.com ([email]dirk(at)knemeyer.com[/email])> wrote:
I agree with the general sentiment. It appears Charles is struggling with time a little bit. I formally propose and vote yes for a DIAS. This way he can be free of the adjudication responsibility and we can find other games.
 

Dirk

 

 
On Feb 6, 2010, at 11:07 AM, Marc Ellinger wrote:




I concur that I would like to have it be smoother.   (Even in my poor position!)
 
Marc.
 
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Subject: RE: 1648 091010: Upcoming Adjucation

 
I do get confused by some of Charles' more enigmatic messages, and austria's leaving the game seemed to be because he wasn't playing as Charles wanted him too, in a communicative manner. I find non-communication unsocial, but not a reason for leaving a game by itself.
I would like to get a move on though

 

Nigs

Date: Sat, 6 Feb 2010 07:39:47 -0800
Subject: Re: 1648 091010: Upcoming Adjucation
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To all,
 

Harvey and I have already discussed our own dissatisfaction with the delays in this game.  How does everyone else feel about it?
 

Jorge

 
2010/2/6 Jorge Saralegui <jmsaralegui(at)gmail.com ([email]jmsaralegui(at)gmail.com[/email])>
Hi Harvey,
 

What do you think?  This is starting to turn into a joke.

 

Jorge
2010/2/6 Charles Féaux de la Croix <charlesf(at)web.de ([email]charlesf(at)web.de[/email])> [quote:513618bd74]
 
Hi guys,

 

I shall not be adjucating right now. I hope that I shall be able to do so before too long.

 

Charles

 


 




 

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