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Post:	< 22863
Subject:	< DC406: Fall 04 Results!!! >
Topic:	< dc406 >
Category:	< Active Games >
Author:	offdisc
Posted:	Mar 21, 2012 at 2:49 pm
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Offdisc

Order of the Oak

Firmness: While compromise is necessary in Diplomacy to maintain ones allies, the Knight of the Oak understands that firmness of purpose is crucial for any chance of eventual victory. He stands as solid as an oak, and as steadfast in his goals.

Order of the Oak

Rating: 1245

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Jan 03, 2006	USA, Colorado

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Did no one think to consult with the GM abotu filling up his mailbox???? Thank god Google has tons of space, and I regularly clear out Panix' box.
Seriously, a bunch of you have been sending in comments -- sometimes the only thing that gets me through the agony of processing the move ( Smile

) is reading the intrigue and laughing to myself about how poorly misled you've all been.

Mike
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"Sit Long, Talk Much, Laugh Often" -- anon
"Shared Pain is lessened, Shared Joy is increased" --- Spider Robinson

On Wed, Mar 21, 2012 at 9:49 AM, Jeff Hall <hall.jeff(at)gmail.com> wrote:

To be honest (a wonderful dip phrase Wink

, I've found the following maxims to apply to dip (for me at least)

1) Games against better players are more fun
2) Better players are better allies
3) I play my best against better opponents

I used to play a lot in the newbie queues on the judges. I got used to dealing with drop outs but I was always driven absolutely batty by the guy that stabbed me for one SC rather then defending against the rampaging horde behind him all because he was completely incapable of reading an obvious board state.

Besides, the improvement will come at the end of the game when Dwarves are merrily dancing across all the continents in their epic solo victory... just sayin' Wink

On Wed, Mar 21, 2012 at 11:43 AM, Christopher Martin <dance.scholar(at)gmail.com> wrote:

Jeff - one questions.
Why should I want you to IMPROVE as a dip player? Its clearly in MY best interest if your skills decay!

That being said, good idea, I will create misleading and disingenuous endgame reports.

Wait, did I hit reply-all? Dammit!
8D
DQ

On Wed, Mar 21, 2012 at 11:39 AM, Jeff Hall <hall.jeff(at)gmail.com> wrote:

Somehow I got it in my head that the retreats and builds were due on the same day. I attribute the confusion to my lack of reading comprehension skills Wink

On a separate note, I don't know how many of you are doing this but I've been sending annual "diaries" to Hoffman for him to publish at the end of the game. A lot happened this turn and I'm not sure I fully understand it but I'd LOVE it if some of you sent something to Hoffman for posterity so that we all could have a better understanding of how the game unfolded. I find that reading those after-action reports (which tend to be much more honest then the in game communications) really improves my skill as a dip player.

There are games that I would LOVE to have a peek at all the emails back and forth and this is one of them Wink

On Wed, Mar 21, 2012 at 10:41 AM, Mike Hoffman <mrh(at)panix.com> wrote:

You caught me. Smile

Seriously, though, we've had 3 straight turns with *5* retreats, and they've all processed on time, with a build phase the following day.

Now we have *6* retreats, with 2 coming from the same power.

This is not a significant increase, so why all the worry *this* time?

Mike
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"Sit Long, Talk Much, Laugh Often" -- anon
"Shared Pain is lessened, Shared Joy is increased" --- Spider Robinson

On Wed, Mar 21, 2012 at 8:38 AM, Christopher Martin <dance.scholar(at)gmail.com> wrote:

Ummm - isn't that the plan?
<<Retreats: (due Wednesday 3/21 (at) 5PM MST)
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Archers: A Llyr --> End, CRC, or OTB

Barbarians: F GuTanoth --> Hea, or OTB
A Paras Derval --> Pen, or OTB
Gnomes: A Elephant Graveyard --> CRC, or OTB

Hobbits: A Candlekeep --> Yur, Kara, or OTB
Trolls: F SUNLESS SEA --> Cal, GRS, Orb, or OTB

Builds & Disbands will be due Thursday, Spring moves due next Tuesday!

On Wed, Mar 21, 2012 at 10:31 AM, Jeff Hall <hall.jeff(at)gmail.com> wrote:

I think Mark was saying he'd like to see the retreats (for example, where CAN retreats) before he makes his removals. Sounds reasonable to me.

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It is better to be silent and thought a fool than to speak and remove all doubt
-Abraham Lincoln

The problem with Internet quotes is that you can never be certain of their accuracy

-Abraham Lincoln

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It is better to be silent and thought a fool than to speak and remove all doubt
-Abraham Lincoln

The problem with Internet quotes is that you can never be certain of their accuracy

-Abraham Lincoln

This message is in reply to post 22851:

Hi All,
I've seen Fire, and I've seen Rain.... but I've NEVER seen so many lies & false plans told in a single round. There was so many VOID moves this turn, I actually went back through all my emails making sure I wasn't processing the wrong turn!

You all have taken Diplomacy in a whole new direction! I just don't whether I can trust it or not.... and I'd suggest none of you trust each other anymore. Smile

Retreats: (due Wednesday 3/21 (at) 5PM MST)

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Archers: A Llyr --> End, CRC, or OTB
Barbarians: F GuTanoth --> Hea, or OTB
                     A Paras Derval --> Pen, or OTB
Gnomes: A Elephant Graveyard --> CRC, or OTB
Hobbits: A Candlekeep --> Yur, Kara, or OTB

Trolls: F SUNLESS SEA --> Cal, GRS, Orb, or OTB

Builds & Disbands will be due Thursday, Spring moves due next Tuesday!

Fall 04 Move Results
--------------------------------
Archers:
A Llyr Supports A Loxley (*Dislodged*)
A Loxley Supports A Groves of Academe - Elephant Graveyard

A Starkadh - Hundred Acre Wood
A Groves of Academe - Elephant Graveyard
A Westmark Supports A Groves of Academe - Elephant Graveyard
F Andarien Plain Supports A Kingdom of Hearts - Paras Derval

Barbarians:

F GuTanoth Supports A Paras Derval (*Dislodged*)
A Paras Derval Supports F GuTanoth (*Dislodged*)
A Brennin - Sleepy Hollow (*Bounce*)

Dwarves:
A Ice Reach - Tymwyvenne
A Myth Drannor Supports F Great Glacier

F Great Glacier Hold
A Spirit Pond - Yggdrasil
A Tymwyvenne - Diamond Mines
F ZEBOIMS DEEP - Pwyll
F CHURNING REACH Supports F Great Glacier
F WEST MIRIANIC OCEAN - ALL SAINTS BAY

Faeries:
F Grimheim Supports F CELESTIAL DELTA (*Cut*)

A Dimmsdale - Walk of Clouds
A Walk of Clouds - Corona
A Land of Sweets - Shady Vale
F CELESTIAL DELTA Supports F MIST MARSH - SUNLESS SEA (*Void*)
F TILVA STRAIT Supports F Grimheim
F NORTH MIRIANIC OCEAN - RUGGED COAST

Gnomes:
A Hundred Acre Wood - Drynwyn
F Khemri - Gwynir
A Newa River Supports F Slightly Gulch - Groves of Academe
A Avalon Supports A Hundred Acre Wood - Drynwyn
F Critter Country - Duloc
A Elephant Graveyard - Loxley (*Dislodged*)

Hobbits:
F Mordor Hold
A Rohan Supports F Mordor
A Krikkit - Two Towers (*Bounce*)
A Candlekeep - Two Towers (*Dislodged*)
F BABEL BEACH Supports F BIKINI BOTTOM - WAY THE HECK (*Void*)
F SEA OF FALLEN STARS Supports F BIKINI BOTTOM - WAY THE HECK

           (*Void*)

Knights:
A Wing Hove Supports F CRYSTAL LAKE - Ice Reach
A Grimpen Ward - Aslan
F Telmar - SUNLESS SEA
F Cathal - CRYSTAL LAKE
A Arctic Barrens Supports F River Saeren - GuTanoth

F CRYSTAL LAKE - Ice Reach
F MIST MARSH Supports F Telmar - SUNLESS SEA

Leprechauns:
F Knockshegowna Supports F Tuatha - Merrow
A Lubrick - Tuatha
F Tuatha - Merrow
F Myrtle - THUNDERHEAD
F SOUTH RAINBOW LAKE - NORTH RAINBOW LAKE (*Fails*)

Magicians:
F Skellington - Necronomicon
F Ansalon Supports F THE MAW - BIKINI BOTTOM
A Lost Woods - Dargaard Keep
F Timberlands - SAVAGE SEA (*Fails*)
A Uhl Belk Supports F SAVAGE SEA - Terabithia (*Void*)

F RIVER STYX - THE MAW

Nomads:
A Fionavar - River Saeren
F Skullcap - Uhl Belk (*Bounce*)
A Corona - To-Gai-Ru
A Valley of Lost Honor - City of Splendors
A Kingdom of Hearts - Paras Derval
A Marshes of Morva - Valley of Lost Honor

F River Saeren - GuTanoth

Ogres:
F Garthim Supports F Gelfling - ROARING RAPIDS
F Gelfling - ROARING RAPIDS (*Fails*)
A Devils Canyon - Twisted Tunnels
A Florin Supports F THREE RIVER LAKE - Gelfling

F Allerleirauh Supports F Knockshegowna
A Heresh - Powry
A France - Magrathea
F Shining Stream - Thirsty Desert
F THREE RIVER LAKE - Gelfling (*Bounce*)

Pirates:
A Fantastica - Maze of Regrets
A Pans Labyrinth Supports A Rivendell

F Slightly Gulch - Groves of Academe
A Duloc - Llyr
A Rivendell Supports F GULF OF LUHN - Mordor
F Cliffs of Insanity Supports A Duloc - Llyr
F GULF OF LUHN - Mordor (*Fails*)

Rogues:
F Ashan Hold

A Kender - Dargaard Keep (*Fails*)

Samurai:
F Never Never Land - SEA OF FALLEN STARS (*Fails*)
F BIKINI BOTTOM - Fjord

Trolls:
A Tumnus - Sleepy Hollow (*Bounce*)
A The Silver city Supports F Ashan

A Cave of Ordeals Hold
A Moominvalley Supports A The Silver city
A Yggdrasil - Ancient Necropolis
F SUNLESS SEA Supports F MIST MARSH - CELESTIAL DELTA
           (*Dislodged*)
F BEAVERSDAM - Grimheim (*Fails*)

F POOL OF RADIANCE Supports A Lost Woods - Dargaard Keep
F HIGH SEAS - WAY THE HECK
F THE MAW - BIKINI BOTTOM

Undead:
A Terabithia - Uhl Belk (*Bounce*)
F SAVAGE SEA - Timberlands (*Fails*)

Wizards:

F Baldurs Gate Hold
A Waterdeep Supports A Thirsty Desert - Candlekeep
A Zhentil Keep - Thra
A Thirsty Desert - Candlekeep
A Dragon Coast - Faerun
F RIVER OF THE DAWN Supports F ROARING RAPIDS
F ROARING RAPIDS Supports F NORTH RAINBOW LAKE - Gelfling

F NORTH RAINBOW LAKE - Gelfling (*Bounce*)

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"Sit Long, Talk Much, Laugh Often" -- anon
"Shared Pain is lessened, Shared Joy is increased" --- Spider Robinson

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DC406: Fall 04 Results!!! (offdisc) Mar 21, 01:20 am

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DC406: Fall 04 Results!!! (offdisc) Mar 21, 09:20 am

DC406: Fall 04 Results!!! (laxrulz777) Mar 21, 09:31 am

DC406: Fall 04 Results!!! (offdisc) Mar 21, 09:37 am

DC406: Fall 04 Results!!! (DancingQueen) Mar 21, 09:38 am

DC406: Fall 04 Results!!! (offdisc) Mar 21, 09:41 am

DC406: Fall 04 Results!!! (laxrulz777) Mar 21, 10:39 am

DC406: Fall 04 Results!!! (DancingQueen) Mar 21, 10:43 am

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