No.  Clear enough? 


OK, seriosuly, no I will not change the rules mid-game. The rules are All Draws must be Unanimous -- voted YES by ALL surviving parties. A lack of vote is indicative of a NO vote. NVRs are separate from NMRs (ie -- you can NMR but still vote (it happens), you can NMR & NVR, and you can NVR but submit moves).


Mike
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On Thu, Sep 27, 2012 at 12:20 PM, Christopher Martin <dance.scholar(at)gmail.com> wrote:

But, to be clear - you aren't going to change the rules in the middle of the game, right?  

On Thu, Sep 27, 2012 at 2:15 PM, Mike Hoffman <mrh(at)panix.com> wrote:


I'm not agreeing or disagreeing with the NVR/NMR discussion, nor will I divulge WHY the draws did not succeed.  I just want to let everyone know that I am not ignoring the discussion though.



Mike

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On Thu, Sep 27, 2012 at 8:24 AM, Christopher Martin <dance.scholar(at)gmail.com> wrote:


God must love Ogre babies - he makes so many of them!

On Thu, Sep 27, 2012 at 10:16 AM, Michael Sims <mike(at)fuzzylogicllc.com> wrote:






How come nobody cheers for Ogre builds.  Ogre babies are cute!


From: Jeff Hall [mailto:hall.jeff(at)gmail.com]
Sent: Thu 9/27/2012 9:13 AM
To: Jason Koelewyn
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Subject: Re: DC406: Diplomacy & Democracy


there really ought to be an "against all odds" award in each dip game... and Garry has certainly earned it... While an undead build would be long in coming, a Nomad build would be a tremendous achievement, to say the least





On Thu, Sep 27, 2012 at 10:08 AM, Jason K <githraine(at)yahoo.com> wrote:


I was so shocked I had a build I did not remember what to do with it!
Well, that or the fasting.....

I agree if the NVR is accompanied by an NMR then vote should count as Null...




Sadly with my NMR my nomination of a Nomad Solo did not make it in either... 








From: Jeff Hall <hall.jeff(at)gmail.com>
To: Rolf Loschek <rolfloschek(at)yahoo.de>



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Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2012 8:55 AM
Subject: Re: DC406: Diplomacy & Democracy



yeah... what happened Jason?

I'd tend to agree with Rolf, we get plenty of times between rounds, I think a NVR when accompanied by an NMR should just be a NULL vote personally (though that's obviously Hoffman's call). Rolf, my understanding is that the vote was not going to succeed no matter what, however.




Also, whichever one of you jokers put in the Dwarf solo request, I'd like to thank you for the vote of confidence but I think that one is a wee bit premature

I'm gonna vote for it though, LOL...





On Thu, Sep 27, 2012 at 7:10 AM, Rolf Loschek <rolfloschek(at)yahoo.de> wrote:


>>We had 2 missing orders, surprisingly one was a BUILD. Oh, Undead, you worked so hard to survive.
 
Guys, just in case..   The last draw proposal failed only because of the gnomes not casting their ballot. Should we have NVR's again (no vote received), I plead to make our decision on the base of registered votes only - and not count an NVR as a "NO".



Whoever is against a draw should at least be as much involved in this game as to vote. He who doesn't even care to vote should not hinder us who still play to decide as we please.



 
Opinions ?
 
Rolf



 
 
Von: Mike Hoffman [mailto:mrh(at)panix.com]
Gesendet: Donnerstag, 27. September 2012 09:14



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Betreff: DC406: Winter 11 FINAL!!!
 
Hi All,
And so we move into a new year, the 12th of this game. Such an odd age -- almost old enough to be a man, yet young enough to still chase the ice cream man. Who will be left standing tall at the end of the year? Who will drop their ice cream cone? Don't even think about picking it up, Momma is watching.



Now off you go to Google to figure out that reference.
 
In the meantime, We have 3 draw proposals to consider:

1)Dwarves solo win the rest survivor status
2)Ogres, Undead,  the rest survivor status



3) Ogres, Dwarves, Knights, the rest survivor status.
 
Vote along with your Spring moves. The Deadline for Spring 11 is Monday, October 1st (at) 5pm MST.
 
We had 2 missing orders, surprisingly one was a BUILD. Oh, Undead, you worked so hard to survive.
 
Adjustments for Winter 11:
=======================
Archers: 
Remove A Westmark
 
Dwarves: 
Build F The Julianthes
Build F Mount Nimro
Build A Myth Drannor
Build A Spirit Pond
Build A Diamond Mines
 
Faeries: 
Remove A Vinyaya
Remove A Acme Acres
Remove F Strawberry Fields
Remove F CHOCOLATE RIVER
Remove F Ranaar
 
Knights: 
Build A Grimpen Ward
Build A Telmar
Build F Arborlon
Build waived
Build waived
Build waived
 
Leprechauns: 
Remove F Myrtle
Remove F Ithin'Carthia(wc)
Remove A Uuno
 
Nomads: 
Build waived
 
Ogres: 
Build F Lankhmar
Build F Horborixen
Build A Devils Canyon
Build A Krikkit
Build waived
Build waived
Build waived
 
Pirates: 
Remove A Grendel
Remove F HORNED BAY
Remove F MERMAIDS LAGOON
Remove F BABEL BEACH
Remove A Plains of Dust
 
Undead: 
Build waived
 
 
Thanks,
Mike 
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It is better to be silent and thought a fool than to speak and remove all doubt
-Abraham Lincoln




The problem with Internet quotes is that you can never be certain of their accuracy
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