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DC309 Winter 1903 delayed - mtombu (May 08, 2010, 11:14 pm)

Hey Guys,
I believe I'm missing multiple (3 I think) adjustments. I'm going to
write this off to the deadline falling on the weekend and push
adjustments to Monday at 9 pm ET, given that I'm not sure everyone has
weekend access. If I get adjustments marked 'final' from everyone
before that, I'll adjudicate then.
This also means that we'll need to push the Spring/Summer '04
deadlines. If I push Spring to Thursday and Summer to Friday, does
this give everyone enough time to get what they need to do done? We'd
go back to Wednesday move deadlines after that.
Unless I hear otherwise I'll assume that this is ok with everyone.
Best,
Mike

On Fri, May 7, 2010 at 10:42 PM, mike Tombu wrote:
Hey All,

Adjustments are due tomorrow at 9 pm. Map and .dpy file are attached.
Check for errors. PRELIMS PEOPLE!

Players:
Austria: Phil
England: Andy
France: Dan
Germany: Ray
Italy: Blue
Russia: John
Turkey: Nathan

Orders as received:
Germany:
Retreat A Burgundy to Gascony
Retreat A Munich to Berlin

Orders as adjudicated by me and RP:
Germany:
A Burgundy - Gascony
A Munich - Berlin

Deadlines:
Winter 1903 orders are due Saturday May 8th at 9 pm ET.
Spring 1903 orders are due Wednesday May 12th at 9 pm ET.

Adjustments:
Austria can build 2 (7 SCs).
England must remove 1 (2 SCs).
France can build 2 (7 SCs).
Germany must remove 1 (6 SCs).
Italy can build 1 (6 SCs).
Russia must remove 1 (5 SCs).
Turkey must remove 2 (1 SCs).

Best,

Mike

.

[Reply]

DC309 Winter 1903 delayed (dc309) untitled36 May 10, 07:32 am

Yeah, weekends are bad dip-wise for me, so avoiding deadlines on those days would be good. I didn't even see the adjucation until just now. But I have my orders in at this point: Remove A Sil. Hope that helps!

John

----- Original Message ----
From: mike Tombu
To: mike Tombu
Cc: The White Wolf ; Dan Dzikowicz ; Sean Cable ; Raymond Setzer ; John R ; Philip King ; Nathan Deily ; "dc309(at)diplomaticcorp.com"
Sent: Sat, May 8, 2010 11:14:56 PM
Subject: DC309 Winter 1903 delayed

Hey Guys,

I believe I'm missing multiple (3 I think) adjustments. I'm going to
write this off to the deadline falling on the weekend and push
adjustments to Monday at 9 pm ET, given that I'm not sure everyone has
weekend access. If I get adjustments marked 'final' from everyone
before that, I'll adjudicate then.

This also means that we'll need to push the Spring/Summer '04
deadlines. If I push Spring to Thursday and Summer to Friday, does
this give everyone enough time to get what they need to do done? We'd
go back to Wednesday move deadlines after that.

Unless I hear otherwise I'll assume that this is ok with everyone.

Best,

Mike

On Fri, May 7, 2010 at 10:42 PM, mike Tombu wrote:
Hey All,

Adjustments are due tomorrow at 9 pm. Map and .dpy file are attached.
Check for errors. PRELIMS PEOPLE!

Players:
Austria: Phil
England: Andy
France: Dan
Germany: Ray
Italy: Blue
Russia: John
Turkey: Nathan

Orders as received:
Germany:
Retreat A Burgundy to Gascony
Retreat A Munich to Berlin

Orders as adjudicated by me and RP:
Germany:
A Burgundy - Gascony
A Munich - Berlin

Deadlines:
Winter 1903 orders are due Saturday May 8th at 9 pm ET.
Spring 1903 orders are due Wednesday May 12th at 9 pm ET.

Adjustments:
Austria can build 2 (7 SCs).
England must remove 1 (2 SCs).
France can build 2 (7 SCs).
Germany must remove 1 (6 SCs).
Italy can build 1 (6 SCs).
Russia must remove 1 (5 SCs).
Turkey must remove 2 (1 SCs).

Best,

Mike

.

dc308 - Spring 1904 Results - z93blom (May 08, 2010, 1:42 pm)

Gentlemen,Do we see a case of early-leader syndrome, as Germany gets struck by a multi-power attack? Also, the news from the east is not good as the leaders for both Turkey and Russia forget to order their units around. The consequence: Italian and Austrian units are knocking on the door...

We are in need of a single retreat, but with only one option available I've auto-retreated the unit into the Black Sea. Jeffrey, if you'd rather retreat the unit OTB, let me know before Monday, 18:00 GMT.

Turkish F Constantinople can retreat to Black Sea.

Next turn: Fall 1904 Movement

Next Deadline: Thursday, 13th of May, 18:00 GMT (6PM).

Spring:
Austria: A Bohemia Supports A Ruhr - MunichA Budapest - RumaniaA Bulgaria Supports F Aegean Sea - ConstantinopleF Greece - Ionian Sea
A Rumania - SevastopolF Trieste - AlbaniaA Vienna Hold
England: F English Channel - Irish SeaA Finland Supports F SwedenF Norway - North Sea (*Bounce*)
F Sweden Hold
France: F Belgium Supports F Norway - North SeaA Brest - PicardyA Burgundy Supports A Ruhr - MunichA Gascony HoldF Mid-Atlantic Ocean Hold
A Ruhr - Munich
Germany: A Berlin - Munich (*Fails*)F Denmark Supports F Edinburgh - North SeaF Edinburgh - North Sea (*Bounce*)A Holland Supports A Munich - Ruhr
A Kiel Supports A Munich - RuhrA Munich - Ruhr (*Disbanded*)
Italy: F Aegean Sea - ConstantinopleF Naples HoldA Silesia Supports A Ruhr - Munich
A Tyrolia Supports A Ruhr - MunichA Warsaw - Ukraine
Russia: A Moscow, no move receivedF Skagerrak, no move receivedA St Petersburg, no move received

Turkey: A Ankara, no move receivedF Constantinople Hold (*Dislodged*)A Smyrna, no move received
Summer:Turkey:
F Constantinople - Black Sea

Next turn: Fall 1904 Movement

Next Deadline: Thursday, 13th of May, 18:00 GMT (6PM).

/Fredrik

[Reply]

dc308 - Spring 1904 Results (dc308) z93blom May 13, 03:21 pm

Gentlemen,
We are entering another grace period. Four of you have currently triggered this now. Let's hope it stays that way. All late parties will be notified of your missing orders. If you do not receive another mail from me within a few minutes you're fine (but check the order confirmations I've sent out, as they may contain information with regards to the submitted moves).

Next turn: Fall 1904 Movement

Next Deadline: Friday, 14th of May, 18:00 GMT (6PM).

/Fredrik

2010/5/8 Fredrik Blom <fredrik(at)familjenblom.se>

Gentlemen,Do we see a case of early-leader syndrome, as Germany gets struck by a multi-power attack? Also, the news from the east is not good as the leaders for both Turkey and Russia forget to order their units around. The consequence: Italian and Austrian units are knocking on the door...

We are in need of a single retreat, but with only one option available I've auto-retreated the unit into the Black Sea. Jeffrey, if you'd rather retreat the unit OTB, let me know before Monday, 18:00 GMT.

Turkish F Constantinople can retreat to Black Sea.

Next turn: Fall 1904 Movement

Next Deadline: Thursday, 13th of May, 18:00 GMT (6PM).

Spring:

Austria: A Bohemia Supports A Ruhr - MunichA Budapest - RumaniaA Bulgaria Supports F Aegean Sea - ConstantinopleF Greece - Ionian Sea

A Rumania - SevastopolF Trieste - AlbaniaA Vienna Hold
England: F English Channel - Irish SeaA Finland Supports F SwedenF Norway - North Sea (*Bounce*)

F Sweden Hold
France: F Belgium Supports F Norway - North SeaA Brest - PicardyA Burgundy Supports A Ruhr - MunichA Gascony HoldF Mid-Atlantic Ocean Hold

A Ruhr - Munich
Germany: A Berlin - Munich (*Fails*)F Denmark Supports F Edinburgh - North SeaF Edinburgh - North Sea (*Bounce*)A Holland Supports A Munich - Ruhr

A Kiel Supports A Munich - RuhrA Munich - Ruhr (*Disbanded*)
Italy: F Aegean Sea - ConstantinopleF Naples HoldA Silesia Supports A Ruhr - Munich

A Tyrolia Supports A Ruhr - MunichA Warsaw - Ukraine
Russia: A Moscow, no move receivedF Skagerrak, no move receivedA St Petersburg, no move received

Turkey: A Ankara, no move receivedF Constantinople Hold (*Dislodged*)A Smyrna, no move received
Summer:Turkey:

F Constantinople - Black Sea

Next turn: Fall 1904 Movement

Next Deadline: Thursday, 13th of May, 18:00 GMT (6PM).

/Fredrik

dc308 - Spring 1904 Results (dc308) z93blom May 14, 04:01 pm

Gentlemen,
Don't sit up and hold your breath for the adjudication. I'll supply it in the morning here in Sweden (in about 10 hours or so).

/Fredrik

2010/5/13 Fredrik Blom <fredrik(at)familjenblom.se>

Gentlemen,
We are entering another grace period. Four of you have currently triggered this now. Let's hope it stays that way. All late parties will be notified of your missing orders. If you do not receive another mail from me within a few minutes you're fine (but check the order confirmations I've sent out, as they may contain information with regards to the submitted moves).

Next turn: Fall 1904 Movement

Next Deadline: Friday, 14th of May, 18:00 GMT (6PM).

/Fredrik

2010/5/8 Fredrik Blom <fredrik(at)familjenblom.se>

Gentlemen,Do we see a case of early-leader syndrome, as Germany gets struck by a multi-power attack? Also, the news from the east is not good as the leaders for both Turkey and Russia forget to order their units around. The consequence: Italian and Austrian units are knocking on the door...

We are in need of a single retreat, but with only one option available I've auto-retreated the unit into the Black Sea. Jeffrey, if you'd rather retreat the unit OTB, let me know before Monday, 18:00 GMT.

Turkish F Constantinople can retreat to Black Sea.

Next turn: Fall 1904 Movement

Next Deadline: Thursday, 13th of May, 18:00 GMT (6PM).

Spring:

Austria: A Bohemia Supports A Ruhr - MunichA Budapest - RumaniaA Bulgaria Supports F Aegean Sea - ConstantinopleF Greece - Ionian Sea

A Rumania - SevastopolF Trieste - AlbaniaA Vienna Hold
England: F English Channel - Irish SeaA Finland Supports F SwedenF Norway - North Sea (*Bounce*)

F Sweden Hold
France: F Belgium Supports F Norway - North SeaA Brest - PicardyA Burgundy Supports A Ruhr - MunichA Gascony HoldF Mid-Atlantic Ocean Hold

A Ruhr - Munich
Germany: A Berlin - Munich (*Fails*)F Denmark Supports F Edinburgh - North SeaF Edinburgh - North Sea (*Bounce*)A Holland Supports A Munich - Ruhr

A Kiel Supports A Munich - RuhrA Munich - Ruhr (*Disbanded*)
Italy: F Aegean Sea - ConstantinopleF Naples HoldA Silesia Supports A Ruhr - Munich

A Tyrolia Supports A Ruhr - MunichA Warsaw - Ukraine
Russia: A Moscow, no move receivedF Skagerrak, no move receivedA St Petersburg, no move received

Turkey: A Ankara, no move receivedF Constantinople Hold (*Dislodged*)A Smyrna, no move received
Summer:Turkey:

F Constantinople - Black Sea

Next turn: Fall 1904 Movement

Next Deadline: Thursday, 13th of May, 18:00 GMT (6PM).

/Fredrik

DC317; Winter 1906 Results - Douglas_E_Fresh (May 08, 2010, 3:24 am)

Sorry still breathing
On Saturday, May 8, 2010, Packrat wrote:
Sorry - there was no indication you had commented on it and Doug had said he was
not submitting orders until he heard from you. Since he has I'm all set.

Oh, hey guys I already answered Doug privately.

A unit not ordered holds, irrelevant of what's implied by other
unit's orders. This is right out of the game rulebook, it has nothing to do w TD
decisions or interpretation. Did I miss something else here, or was there more
to this inquiry?

-mike

From: Packrat
[mailto:brn2dip(at)yahoo.com]
Sent: Friday, May 07, 2010 8:25 PM
To: Darryl Good; douglasefresh(at)gmail.com; olson.gregoryscott(at)gmail.com;
dadidea(at)gmail.com; MDemagogue(at)gmail.com; nephilli99(at)hotmail.com;
phantomas13(at)orange.fr
Cc: blitz; dc317(at)diplomaticcorp.com; Michael Sims
Subject: Re: DC317; Winter 1906 Results

While I agree with your decision I find myself questioning
the legality of it.
I know Doug said he had asked the TD for a ruling on the convoy so I am
unsure of the protocol there. The rules say the TD decisions are final,
but
there is no mention of the process followed to do so. Doug made his
feelings
clear, as did those of us who commented.

I just want to be sure it all holds up.

From: Darryl Good
To: douglasefresh(at)gmail.com; olson.gregoryscott(at)gmail.com; dadidea(at)gmail.com;
MDemagogue(at)gmail.com; nephilli99(at)hotmail.com; brn2dip(at)yahoo.com;
phantomas13(at)orange.fr
Cc: blitz(at)diplomaticcorp.com; dc317(at)diplomaticcorp.com
Sent: Fri, May 7, 2010 8:53:41 PM
Subject: DC317; Winter 1906 Results

GM's remarks:

*shrug* Germany NMR's. I'm not trying to pick on you
Doug, really I'm not. Please send me an email and let me know you are
still with us.

I am on travel again next week (said last time that it
wouldn't be the last). I will do my best to not allow this to influence
the time of the Adjudication, like I did last time. I am traveling on
Sunday. I have re

.

[Reply]

DC313 Winter 1906 Adjudication - Samnuva (May 07, 2010, 11:10 pm)

Retreat War-Sil
England Builds
F Lon
A Lvp
Germany auto-disbands Bur

[Reply]

DC309 Autumn 1903 Results - mtombu (May 07, 2010, 9:42 pm)

Hey All,
Adjustments are due tomorrow at 9 pm. Map and .dpy file are attached.
Check for errors. PRELIMS PEOPLE!
Players:
Austria: Phil
England: Andy
France: Dan
Germany: Ray
Italy: Blue
Russia: John
Turkey: Nathan
Orders as received:
Germany:
Retreat A Burgundy to Gascony
Retreat A Munich to Berlin
Orders as adjudicated by me and RP:
Germany:
A Burgundy - Gascony
A Munich - Berlin
Deadlines:
Winter 1903 orders are due Saturday May 8th at 9 pm ET.
Spring 1903 orders are due Wednesday May 12th at 9 pm ET.
Adjustments:
Austria can build 2 (7 SCs).
England must remove 1 (2 SCs).
France can build 2 (7 SCs).
Germany must remove 1 (6 SCs).
Italy can build 1 (6 SCs).
Russia must remove 1 (5 SCs).
Turkey must remove 2 (1 SCs).
Best,
Mike

[Reply]

DC317; Winter 1906 Results - packrat (May 07, 2010, 9:00 pm)

Sorry - there was no indication you had commented on it and Doug had said he was
not submitting orders until he heard from you. Since he has I'm all set.

From: Michael Sims <mike(at)fuzzylogicllc.net>
To: Packrat <brn2dip(at)yahoo.com>; Darryl Good <dipknight(at)gmail.com>; douglasefresh(at)gmail.com; olson.gregoryscott(at)gmail.com; dadidea(at)gmail.com; MDemagogue(at)gmail.com; nephilli99(at)hotmail.com; phantomas13(at)orange.fr
Cc:
blitz <blitz(at)diplomaticcorp.com>; Garry Bledsoe <kielmarch(at)hotmail.com>
Sent: Fri, May 7, 2010 9:51:04 PM
Subject: RE: DC317; Winter 1906 Results

Oh, hey guys I already answered Doug privately.

A unit not ordered holds, irrelevant of what???s implied by other
unit???s orders. This is right out of the game rulebook, it has nothing to do w TD
decisions or interpretation. Did I miss something else here, or was there more
to this inquiry?

-mike

From: Packrat
[mailto:brn2dip(at)yahoo.com]

Sent: Friday, May 07, 2010 8:25 PM

To: Darryl Good; douglasefresh(at)gmail.com; olson.gregoryscott(at)gmail.com;
dadidea(at)gmail.com; MDemagogue(at)gmail.com; nephilli99(at)hotmail.com;
phantomas13(at)orange.fr

Cc: blitz; dc317(at)diplomaticcorp.com; Michael Sims

Subject: Re: DC317; Winter 1906 Results

While I agree with your decision I find myself questioning
the legality of it.

I know Doug said he had asked the TD for a ruling on the convoy so I am

unsure of the protocol there. The rules say the TD decisions are final,
but

there is no mention of the process followed to do so. Doug made his
feelings

clear, as did those of us who commented.

I just want to be sure it all holds up.

From: Darryl Good <dipknight(at)gmail.com>

To: douglasefresh(at)gmail.com; olson.gregoryscott(at)gmail.com; dadidea(at)gmail.com;
MDemagogue(at)gmail.com; nephilli99(at)hotmail.com; brn2dip(at)yahoo.com;
phantomas13(at)orange.fr

Cc: blitz(at)diplomaticcorp.com; dc317(at)diplomaticcorp.com

Sent: Fri, May 7, 2010 8:53:41 PM

Subject: DC317; Winter 1906 Results

GM???s remarks:

*shrug* Germany NMR???s. I???m not trying to pick on you
Doug, really I???m not. Please send me an email and let me know you are
still with us.

I am on travel again next week (said last time that it
wouldn???t be the last). I will do my best to not allow this to influence
the time of the Adjudication, like I did last time. I am traveling on
Sunday. I have return travel scheduled for Saturday; though it is likely
that the meeting will be done earlier in the week. Again, I do not expect
that this will be a problem . . . but you might want to be extra sure you are
cc???ing your orders to orders(at)diplomaticcorp.com.

Congratulations to the survivors for making it to year 7 of
Round 2, Winter Blitz 2010.

The Players:

Austria
Eliminated Winter 1904

England       Eliminated
Winter 1905

France
packrat                      Scott
Troemel      brn2dip(at)yahoo.com

Germany
Douglas_E_Fresh       Douglas Fresh
douglasefresh(at)gmail.com

Italy
evapollo88
  Greg Olson
olson.gregoryscott(at)gmail.com

Russia
Nigs
  Nigel Phillips        nephilli99(at)hotmail.com

Turkey
Eliminated Winter 1906

The Orders:

Austria:

   Eliminated Winter 1904

England:

   Eliminated Winter 1905

France:

   Remove F mao

   Remove A par

   Remove F nao

Germany:

   Defaults, removing F edi

Italy:

   Build A ven

   Build F rom

   Build F nap

Russia:

   Build A war

   Build A mos

   Build A sev

Turkey:

   Eliminated Winter 1906

Retreats:

   None Required.

Centers and Unit Positions:

Austria:

   Eliminated Winter 1904

England:

   Eliminated Winter 1905

France:

   Centers (5) bel, bre, lvp, lon, par.

   Units: F bel, F bre, A bur, F iri, A trl

   Build/Disband: 0

Germany:

   Centers ( Cool

: ber, den, edi, hol, kie,
mun, nwy, swe.

   Units: A den, F bot, A hol, A mun, F nth,
A nwy, A pru, A sil

Build/Disbands: 0

Italy:

   Centers (11) gre, mar, nap, por,
rom, smy, spa, tri, tun, ven, vie.

   Units: F aeg, F bla, F lyo, A mar, F nap,
A por, F rom, F spa(sc), A tri, A ven, A vie

   Build/Disband: 0

Russia:

   Centers (10) ank, bud, bul, con,
mos, rum, ser, sev, stp, war.

   Units: A bud, A bul, F con, A fin, A lvn,
A mos, A rum, A sev, A stp, A war

   Build/Disband: 0

Turkey:

Eliminated Winter 1906

Deadline:

1907 Spring Orders: Monday; May 10, 24:00 Hrs GMT

Maps of the Orders and Results; and the dpy file are
attached for your use.

[Reply]

DC317; Winter 1906 Results - FuzzyLogic (May 07, 2010, 8:51 pm)

Oh, hey guys I already answered Doug privately.

A unit not ordered holds, irrelevant of what's implied by other
unit's orders. This is right out of the game rulebook, it has nothing to do w TD
decisions or interpretation. Did I miss something else here, or was there more
to this inquiry?

-mike

From: Packrat
[mailto:brn2dip(at)yahoo.com]

Sent: Friday, May 07, 2010 8:25 PM

To: Darryl Good; douglasefresh(at)gmail.com; olson.gregoryscott(at)gmail.com;
dadidea(at)gmail.com; MDemagogue(at)gmail.com; nephilli99(at)hotmail.com;
phantomas13(at)orange.fr

Cc: blitz; dc317(at)diplomaticcorp.com; Michael Sims

Subject: Re: DC317; Winter 1906 Results

While I agree with your decision I find myself questioning
the legality of it.

I know Doug said he had asked the TD for a ruling on the convoy so I am

unsure of the protocol there. The rules say the TD decisions are final,
but

there is no mention of the process followed to do so. Doug made his
feelings

clear, as did those of us who commented.

I just want to be sure it all holds up.

From: Darryl Good <dipknight(at)gmail.com>

To: douglasefresh(at)gmail.com; olson.gregoryscott(at)gmail.com; dadidea(at)gmail.com;
MDemagogue(at)gmail.com; nephilli99(at)hotmail.com; brn2dip(at)yahoo.com;
phantomas13(at)orange.fr

Cc: blitz(at)diplomaticcorp.com; dc317(at)diplomaticcorp.com

Sent: Fri, May 7, 2010 8:53:41 PM

Subject: DC317; Winter 1906 Results
GM's remarks:

*shrug* Germany NMR's. I'm not trying to pick on you
Doug, really I'm not. Please send me an email and let me know you are
still with us.

I am on travel again next week (said last time that it
wouldn't be the last). I will do my best to not allow this to influence
the time of the Adjudication, like I did last time. I am traveling on
Sunday. I have return travel scheduled for Saturday; though it is likely
that the meeting will be done earlier in the week. Again, I do not expect
that this will be a problem . . . but you might want to be extra sure you are
cc'ing your orders to orders(at)diplomaticcorp.com.

Congratulations to the survivors for making it to year 7 of
Round 2, Winter Blitz 2010.

The Players:
Austria
Eliminated Winter 1904
England       Eliminated
Winter 1905
France
packrat                      Scott
Troemel      brn2dip(at)yahoo.com
Germany
Douglas_E_Fresh       Douglas Fresh
douglasefresh(at)gmail.com

Italy
evapollo88
  Greg Olson
olson.gregoryscott(at)gmail.com

Russia
Nigs
  Nigel Phillips        nephilli99(at)hotmail.com

Turkey
Eliminated Winter 1906

The Orders:
Austria:
   Eliminated Winter 1904

England:
   Eliminated Winter 1905

France:
   Remove F mao
   Remove A par
   Remove F nao

Germany:
   Defaults, removing F edi

Italy:
   Build A ven
   Build F rom
   Build F nap

Russia:
   Build A war
   Build A mos
   Build A sev

Turkey:
   Eliminated Winter 1906

Retreats:
   None Required.

Centers and Unit Positions:
Austria:
   Eliminated Winter 1904

England:
   Eliminated Winter 1905

France:
   Centers (5) bel, bre, lvp, lon, par.
   Units: F bel, F bre, A bur, F iri, A trl
   Build/Disband: 0

Germany:
   Centers ( Cool

: ber, den, edi, hol, kie,
mun, nwy, swe.
   Units: A den, F bot, A hol, A mun, F nth,
A nwy, A pru, A sil
Build/Disbands: 0

Italy:
   Centers (11) gre, mar, nap, por,
rom, smy, spa, tri, tun, ven, vie.
   Units: F aeg, F bla, F lyo, A mar, F nap,
A por, F rom, F spa(sc), A tri, A ven, A vie
   Build/Disband: 0

Russia:
   Centers (10) ank, bud, bul, con,
mos, rum, ser, sev, stp, war.
   Units: A bud, A bul, F con, A fin, A lvn,
A mos, A rum, A sev, A stp, A war
   Build/Disband: 0

Turkey:
Eliminated Winter 1906

Deadline:
1907 Spring Orders: Monday; May 10, 24:00 Hrs GMT

Maps of the Orders and Results; and the dpy file are
attached for your use.

[Reply]

DC317; Winter 1906 Results - packrat (May 07, 2010, 8:25 pm)

While I agree with your decision I find myself questioning the legality of it.
I know Doug said he had asked the TD for a ruling on the convoy so I am
unsure of the protocol there. The rules say the TD decisions are final, but
there is no mention of the process followed to do so. Doug made his feelings
clear, as did those of us who commented.

I just want to be sure it all holds up.

From: Darryl Good <dipknight(at)gmail.com>
To:
douglasefresh(at)gmail.com; olson.gregoryscott(at)gmail.com; dadidea(at)gmail.com; MDemagogue(at)gmail.com; nephilli99(at)hotmail.com; brn2dip(at)yahoo.com; phantomas13(at)orange.fr
Cc: blitz(at)diplomaticcorp.com; dc317(at)diplomaticcorp.com
Sent: Fri, May 7, 2010 8:53:41 PM
Subject: DC317; Winter 1906 Results

GM???s remarks:

*shrug* Germany NMR???s. I???m not trying to pick on you Doug, really I???m not. Please send me an email and let me know you are still with us.

I am on travel again next week (said last time that it wouldn???t be the last). I will do my best to not allow this to influence the time of the Adjudication, like I did last time. I am traveling on Sunday. I have return travel scheduled for Saturday; though it is likely that the meeting will be done earlier in the week. Again, I do not expect that this will be a problem . . . but you might want to be extra sure you are cc???ing your orders to orders(at)diplomaticcorp.com.

Congratulations to the survivors for making it to year 7 of Round 2, Winter Blitz 2010.

The Players:

Austria         Eliminated Winter 1904

England       Eliminated Winter 1905

France          packrat                      Scott Troemel      brn2dip(at)yahoo.com

Germany      Douglas_E_Fresh       Douglas Fresh      douglasefresh(at)gmail.com

Italy              evapollo88                Greg Olson           olson.gregoryscott(at)gmail.com

Russia          Nigs                           Nigel Phillips        nephilli99(at)hotmail.com

Turkey         Eliminated Winter 1906

The Orders:

Austria:

   Eliminated Winter 1904

England:
   Eliminated Winter 1905

France:
   Remove F mao
   Remove A par
   Remove F nao

Germany:
   Defaults, removing F edi

Italy:
   Build A ven
   Build F rom
   Build F nap

Russia:
   Build A war
   Build A mos
   Build A sev

Turkey:
   Eliminated Winter 1906

Retreats:

   None Required.

Centers and Unit Positions:

Austria:

   Eliminated Winter 1904

England:

   Eliminated Winter 1905

France:

   Centers (5) bel, bre, lvp, lon, par.

   Units: F bel, F bre, A bur, F iri, A trl

   Build/Disband: 0

Germany:
   Centers ( Cool

: ber, den, edi, hol, kie, mun, nwy, swe.

   Units: A den, F bot, A hol, A mun, F nth, A nwy, A pru, A sil

Build/Disbands: 0

Italy:

   Centers (11) gre, mar, nap, por, rom, smy, spa, tri, tun, ven, vie.

   Units: F aeg, F bla, F lyo, A mar, F nap, A por, F rom, F spa(sc), A tri, A ven, A vie

   Build/Disband: 0

Russia:

   Centers (10) ank, bud, bul, con, mos, rum, ser, sev, stp, war.

   Units: A bud, A bul, F con, A fin, A lvn, A mos, A rum, A sev, A stp, A war

   Build/Disband: 0

Turkey:

Eliminated Winter 1906

Deadline:

1907 Spring Orders: Monday; May 10, 24:00 Hrs GMT

Maps of the Orders and Results; and the dpy file are attached for your use.

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Dc 315: Autumn/Winter Adjudication 1906 - AlanRFarrington (May 07, 2010, 8:10 pm)

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Hey All,
Still no word from Russia so he disbands his unit and then
is forced to remove via what the computer says. 3 New Armies go up in
England though, looks like this could get very interesting.

Next Deadline:

Spring 1907 is due Monday May 10th at Midnight GMT (7:00pm
EST)

Orders:

Autumn:

Austria:

A Bulgaria - Serbia

Russia:

Remove A Moscow

Winter:
Austria:

Build A Budapest

England:

Build A London

Build A Liverpool

Build A Edinburgh

Italy:

Remove F Rome

Remove F Naples

Russia:

Defaults, removing F Black Sea

Turkey:

Build waived

Ownership of Supply Centers:

Austria:   Budapest, Greece, Serbia, Trieste, Venice, Vienna.

England:   Berlin, Denmark, Edinburgh, Holland, Kiel, Liverpool,

           London, Moscow, Norway, St Petersburg, Sweden, Warsaw.

France:    Belgium, Brest, Marseilles, Munich, Paris, Portugal,

           Spain, Tunis.

Italy:     Naples, Rome.

Russia:    Rumania, Sevastopol.

Turkey:    Ankara, Bulgaria, Constantinople, Smyrna.

Players:

Austria: Jonathan Nichol ( jonathan(at)deepsheep.com )

England: Derek Eiler ( derekthefeared2(at)yahoo.com )

France: Maria Montes ( MariaMontes1990(at)hotmail.es )

Germany: Joe Payne ( josepayne(at)gmail.com )
[Eliminated]
Italy: John Robillard ( john.robillard(at)telia.com )

Russia: Max Victory ( Maxatrest(at)yahoo.co.uk )

Turkey: Dale Grantham ( dmg(at)earthlink.net )

Thanks,

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DC317; Winter 1906 Results - dipknight (May 07, 2010, 7:53 pm)

GM's remarks:

*shrug* Germany NMR's. I'm not trying to pick on you Doug, really I'm not. Please send me an email and let me know you are still with us.

I am on travel again next week (said last time that it wouldn't be the last). I will do my best to not allow this to influence the time of the Adjudication, like I did last time. I am traveling on Sunday. I have return travel scheduled for Saturday; though it is likely that the meeting will be done earlier in the week. Again, I do not expect that this will be a problem . . . but you might want to be extra sure you are cc'ing your orders to orders(at)diplomaticcorp.com.

Congratulations to the survivors for making it to year 7 of Round 2, Winter Blitz 2010.

The Players:
Austria         Eliminated Winter 1904
England       Eliminated Winter 1905
France          packrat                      Scott Troemel      brn2dip(at)yahoo.com
Germany      Douglas_E_Fresh       Douglas Fresh      douglasefresh(at)gmail.com
Italy              evapollo88                Greg Olson           olson.gregoryscott(at)gmail.com
Russia          Nigs                           Nigel Phillips        nephilli99(at)hotmail.com
Turkey         Eliminated Winter 1906

The Orders:
Austria:
   Eliminated Winter 1904

England:
   Eliminated Winter 1905

France:
   Remove F mao
   Remove A par
   Remove F nao

Germany:
   Defaults, removing F edi

Italy:
   Build A ven
   Build F rom
   Build F nap

Russia:
   Build A war
   Build A mos
   Build A sev

Turkey:
   Eliminated Winter 1906

Retreats:
   None Required.

Centers and Unit Positions:
Austria:
   Eliminated Winter 1904

England:
   Eliminated Winter 1905

France:
   Centers (5) bel, bre, lvp, lon, par.
   Units: F bel, F bre, A bur, F iri, A trl
   Build/Disband: 0

Germany:
   Centers ( Cool

: ber, den, edi, hol, kie, mun, nwy, swe.
   Units: A den, F bot, A hol, A mun, F nth, A nwy, A pru, A sil
Build/Disbands: 0

Italy:
   Centers (11) gre, mar, nap, por, rom, smy, spa, tri, tun, ven, vie.
   Units: F aeg, F bla, F lyo, A mar, F nap, A por, F rom, F spa(sc), A tri, A ven, A vie
   Build/Disband: 0

Russia:
   Centers (10) ank, bud, bul, con, mos, rum, ser, sev, stp, war.
   Units: A bud, A bul, F con, A fin, A lvn, A mos, A rum, A sev, A stp, A war
   Build/Disband: 0

Turkey:
Eliminated Winter 1906

Deadline:
1907 Spring Orders: Monday; May 10, 24:00 Hrs GMT

Maps of the Orders and Results; and the dpy file are attached for your use.

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DC317; Winter 1906 Results (Winter Blitz) packrat May 07, 08:25 pm

: ber, den, edi, hol, kie, mun, nwy, swe.

   Units: A den, F bot, A hol, A mun, F nth, A nwy, A pru, A sil

Build/Disbands: 0

Italy:

   Centers (11) gre, mar, nap, por, rom, smy, spa, tri, tun, ven, vie.

   Units: F aeg, F bla, F lyo, A mar, F nap, A por, F rom, F spa(sc), A tri, A ven, A vie

   Build/Disband: 0

Russia:

   Centers (10) ank, bud, bul, con, mos, rum, ser, sev, stp, war.

   Units: A bud, A bul, F con, A fin, A lvn, A mos, A rum, A sev, A stp, A war

   Build/Disband: 0

Turkey:

Eliminated Winter 1906

Deadline:

1907 Spring Orders: Monday; May 10, 24:00 Hrs GMT

Maps of the Orders and Results; and the dpy file are attached for your use.

DC317; Winter 1906 Results (Winter Blitz) FuzzyLogic May 07, 08:51 pm

: ber, den, edi, hol, kie,
mun, nwy, swe.
   Units: A den, F bot, A hol, A mun, F nth,
A nwy, A pru, A sil
Build/Disbands: 0

Italy:
   Centers (11) gre, mar, nap, por,
rom, smy, spa, tri, tun, ven, vie.
   Units: F aeg, F bla, F lyo, A mar, F nap,
A por, F rom, F spa(sc), A tri, A ven, A vie
   Build/Disband: 0

Russia:
   Centers (10) ank, bud, bul, con,
mos, rum, ser, sev, stp, war.
   Units: A bud, A bul, F con, A fin, A lvn,
A mos, A rum, A sev, A stp, A war
   Build/Disband: 0

Turkey:
Eliminated Winter 1906

Deadline:
1907 Spring Orders: Monday; May 10, 24:00 Hrs GMT

Maps of the Orders and Results; and the dpy file are
attached for your use.

DC317; Winter 1906 Results (Winter Blitz) packrat May 07, 09:00 pm

DC317; Winter 1906 Results (Winter Blitz) Douglas_E_Fresh May 08, 03:24 am

DC317; Winter 1906 Results (Winter Blitz) evapollo88 May 09, 05:32 pm

Hey all. Sorry for the lack of advance notice, but I ended up not having internet access this weekend and will get to all emails probably tomorrow morning. Terribly sorry for the delay, and I look forward to your correspondence.

- Greg

On Sat, May 8, 2010 at 4:24 AM, Douglas Fresh <douglasefresh(at)googlemail.com> wrote:

Sorry still breathing

On Saturday, May 8, 2010, Packrat <brn2dip(at)yahoo.com> wrote:

> Sorry - there was no indication you had commented on it and Doug had said he was

> not submitting orders until he heard from you. Since he has I'm all set.

>

>

>

> Oh, hey guys I already answered Doug privately.

>

>

>

> A unit not ordered holds, irrelevant of what's implied by other

> unit's orders. This is right out of the game rulebook, it has nothing to do w TD

> decisions or interpretation. Did I miss something else here, or was there more

> to this inquiry?

>

>

>

> -mike

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> From: Packrat

> [mailto:brn2dip(at)yahoo.com]

> Sent: Friday, May 07, 2010 8:25 PM

> To: Darryl Good; douglasefresh(at)gmail.com; olson.gregoryscott(at)gmail.com;

> dadidea(at)gmail.com; MDemagogue(at)gmail.com; nephilli99(at)hotmail.com;

> phantomas13(at)orange.fr

> Cc: blitz; dc317(at)diplomaticcorp.com; Michael Sims

> Subject: Re: DC317; Winter 1906 Results

>

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> While I agree with your decision I find myself questioning

> the legality of it.

> I know Doug said he had asked the TD for a ruling on the convoy so I am

> unsure of the protocol there. The rules say the TD decisions are final,

> but

> there is no mention of the process followed to do so. Doug made his

> feelings

> clear, as did those of us who commented.

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> I just want to be sure it all holds up.

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> From: Darryl Good <dipknight(at)gmail.com>

> To: douglasefresh(at)gmail.com; olson.gregoryscott(at)gmail.com; dadidea(at)gmail.com;

> MDemagogue(at)gmail.com; nephilli99(at)hotmail.com; brn2dip(at)yahoo.com;

> phantomas13(at)orange.fr

> Cc: blitz(at)diplomaticcorp.com; dc317(at)diplomaticcorp.com

> Sent: Fri, May 7, 2010 8:53:41 PM

> Subject: DC317; Winter 1906 Results

>

> GM's remarks:

>

>

>

> *shrug* Germany NMR's. I'm not trying to pick on you

> Doug, really I'm not. Please send me an email and let me know you are

> still with us.

>

>

>

> I am on travel again next week (said last time that it

> wouldn't be the last). I will do my best to not allow this to influence

> the time of the Adjudication, like I did last time. I am traveling on

> Sunday. I have re

>

DCI s16 - Retreat - FuzzyLogic (May 07, 2010, 6:20 pm)

French A Rome goes OTB.
NEXT: Fall 16 due Wed 5/12, 3pm Central!
-mike

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dc-316 winter 1906 results! - ignite107 (May 07, 2010, 6:10 pm)

Is it just me or is this blank?

Kyle Rudge

On Fri, May 7, 2010 at 6:01 PM, Cory Burris <coryfucius(at)yahoo.com> wrote:

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Winter 1906 results:

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dc-316 winter 1906 results! - coryfucius (May 07, 2010, 6:07 pm)

(Let's try that again, I stumbled upon a keyboard shortcut to send the e-mail before I finished drafting it.)

We bid a final farewell to both Germany and Turkey. Italy and Russia each build one of each unit, while France gives up Burgundy.

Spring 1907 orders will be due Monday 5/10 at 3pm Central (US) / 21:00 GMT. Along with your orders, please cast your votes on the following endgame proposals:
* a 3-way draw among England, Italy, and Russia

* a 2-way draw between Italy and Russia

Thanks, everyone!

Cory

-----

Winter 1906 results:

France:
Remove A Burgundy

Germany:
Remove F Baltic Sea

Italy:
Build A Rome
Build F Venice

Russia:
Build F St Petersburg(nc)
Build A Moscow

Turkey:
Remove A Armenia

[Reply]

DC 323 1898 Fall Results correct Realpolitik file - derekthefeared2 (May 07, 2010, 6:02 pm)

Sorry wrong realpolitik file. Everything else is correct though. The correct file is attached here

[Reply]

dc-316 winter 1906 results! - coryfucius (May 07, 2010, 6:01 pm)

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Winter 1906 results:

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dc-316 winter 1906 results! (Winter Blitz) coryfucius May 07, 06:07 pm

dc-316 winter 1906 results! (Winter Blitz) ignite107 May 07, 06:10 pm

Is it just me or is this blank?

Kyle Rudge

On Fri, May 7, 2010 at 6:01 PM, Cory Burris <coryfucius(at)yahoo.com> wrote:

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Winter 1906 results:

dc311 Winter '06 Results - notasb (May 07, 2010, 4:40 pm)

Christine was called away to the hospital and as such, I'm adjudicating for her. Mike will be ajudicating the next turn.

She will contact you when she gets home.

Austria - Bruce Ray
England - Daniel Dzikowicz
France - Nick Powell
Germany - Dirk Knemeyer
Italy - Jason K
Russia - Paul Russell
Turkey - Hamish Williams

Deadline:

Spring '07 is due Monday May 10 at 2 PM CDST (GMT -5) 1900 GMT

Austria:
F Tyrrhenian Sea - Naples

France:
disband A Marseilles

Austria:
Build A Trieste

England:
Build A London
Build F Edinburgh

Germany:
Build F Kiel

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DCI s16 - Could it be?! - Nigs (May 07, 2010, 4:39 pm)

I have just endured the British election without any winner and it looks much like this game. Its making me into a pacifist.
Nigs

Subject: DCI s16 - Could it be?!
Date: Fri, 7 May 2010 15:18:10 -0500
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Whoops, Turkey ordered Smy-Arm, not Ank...
-mike

From: Michael Sims
Sent: Fri 5/7/2010 3:00 PM
To: 'ddz999cat23(at)yahoo.com'; 'drew3739o(at)yahoo.com'; Garry Bledsoe; 'jhack16(at)gmail.com'; 'Maxatrest(at)yahoo.co.uk'; 'm_don_j(at)hotmail.com'; 'frankmartin(at)surewest.net'; 'jmsaralegui(at)gmail.com'; 'nephilli99(at)hotmail.com'; 'matthew.kremer(at)yale.edu'; 'smegdwarf(at)yahoo.com'
Cc: dci
Subject: DCI s16 - Could it be?!

Yes folks after 15-1/2 hard fought years of Invitational goodness, we finally have...

...To carry on!

DIAS is voted down, again. And the mood among the Norwegian Ladies, well, is it just PMS? Or maybe the exceedingly high proportion of centers occupied by opposing units this summer... Russia and Turkey make a land-grab, flexing their little-power muscle into Saint Pete, Sev, Bud, Rom, and even Spain, and forcing the Norwegians in Bohemia OTB. The French fall back to Belgium, taking some lumps of their own - losing their army in Silesia, and every first born into Turkish slavery. This is certainly going down as an unbelievable rags-to-riches, game...

What next?

Well, one easy retreat:
French F Rome can go to Tus, Apu, or OTB by tomorrow 3pm Central!

France:
F English Channel Supports A Holland - Belgium
F Gulf of Lyon - Western Mediterranean
A Holland - Belgium
F London - Wales
F Mid-Atlantic Ocean - Irish Sea
A Munich Supports A Tyrolia - Bohemia
F North Atlantic Ocean - Liverpool (*Bounce*)
A Rome Hold (*Dislodged*)
A Ruhr Supports A Munich
A Silesia - Galicia (*Disbanded*)
A Tyrolia - Bohemia

Russia:
F Black Sea - Sevastopol
A Moscow - St Petersburg
A Ukraine - Galicia (*Bounce*)
A Warsaw - Silesia

Turkey:
F Aegean Sea - Constantinople
A Constantinople - Bulgaria
F Ionian Sea - Adriatic Sea
F Naples - Rome
A Serbia - Budapest
A Smyrna - Ankara
F Tyrrhenian Sea Supports F Naples - Rome
F Venice Hold
F Western Mediterranean - Spain(sc)

Norway:
A Berlin Supports A Warsaw - Silesia
A Bohemia - Munich (*Disbanded*)
F Clyde - Liverpool (*Bounce*)
F Denmark - Kiel
A Galicia - Vienna
F Helgoland Bight Supports F Kiel - Holland
F Kiel - Holland
A Liverpool - Yorkshire
F Livonia - Prussia
F North Sea - Belgium (*Fails*)
F Norwegian Sea - North Sea (*Fails*)

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ACD236/DC288: Balkans1860 Spring 1866 Deadline Rem... - Kenshi777 (May 07, 2010, 4:00 pm)

holding on one set of missing orders...only about half an hour to
correct that before I take off to celebrate my birthday...will return
to this on Sunday if no orders received by then.
B.
On 5/7/10, Benjamin Hester wrote:
Sorry for the late reminder - about two hours until the deadline! Get em
in!

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DCI s16 - Could it be?! - FuzzyLogic (May 07, 2010, 3:18 pm)

Whoops, Turkey ordered Smy-Arm, not Ank...
-mike

From: Michael Sims
Sent: Fri 5/7/2010 3:00 PM
To: 'ddz999cat23(at)yahoo.com'; 'drew3739o(at)yahoo.com'; Garry Bledsoe; 'jhack16(at)gmail.com'; 'Maxatrest(at)yahoo.co.uk'; 'm_don_j(at)hotmail.com'; 'frankmartin(at)surewest.net'; 'jmsaralegui(at)gmail.com'; 'nephilli99(at)hotmail.com'; 'matthew.kremer(at)yale.edu'; 'smegdwarf(at)yahoo.com'
Cc: dci
Subject: DCI s16 - Could it be?!

Yes folks after 15-1/2 hard fought years of Invitational goodness, we finally have...

...To carry on!

DIAS is voted down, again. And the mood among the Norwegian Ladies, well, is it just PMS? Or maybe the exceedingly high proportion of centers occupied by opposing units this summer... Russia and Turkey make a land-grab, flexing their little-power muscle into Saint Pete, Sev, Bud, Rom, and even Spain, and forcing the Norwegians in Bohemia OTB. The French fall back to Belgium, taking some lumps of their own - losing their army in Silesia, and every first born into Turkish slavery. This is certainly going down as an unbelievable rags-to-riches, game...

What next?

Well, one easy retreat:
French F Rome can go to Tus, Apu, or OTB by tomorrow 3pm Central!

France:
F English Channel Supports A Holland - Belgium
F Gulf of Lyon - Western Mediterranean
A Holland - Belgium
F London - Wales
F Mid-Atlantic Ocean - Irish Sea
A Munich Supports A Tyrolia - Bohemia
F North Atlantic Ocean - Liverpool (*Bounce*)
A Rome Hold (*Dislodged*)
A Ruhr Supports A Munich
A Silesia - Galicia (*Disbanded*)
A Tyrolia - Bohemia

Russia:
F Black Sea - Sevastopol
A Moscow - St Petersburg
A Ukraine - Galicia (*Bounce*)
A Warsaw - Silesia

Turkey:
F Aegean Sea - Constantinople
A Constantinople - Bulgaria
F Ionian Sea - Adriatic Sea
F Naples - Rome
A Serbia - Budapest
A Smyrna - Ankara
F Tyrrhenian Sea Supports F Naples - Rome
F Venice Hold
F Western Mediterranean - Spain(sc)

Norway:
A Berlin Supports A Warsaw - Silesia
A Bohemia - Munich (*Disbanded*)
F Clyde - Liverpool (*Bounce*)
F Denmark - Kiel
A Galicia - Vienna
F Helgoland Bight Supports F Kiel - Holland
F Kiel - Holland
A Liverpool - Yorkshire
F Livonia - Prussia
F North Sea - Belgium (*Fails*)
F Norwegian Sea - North Sea (*Fails*)

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DCI s16 - Could it be?! - FuzzyLogic (May 07, 2010, 3:00 pm)

Yes folks after 15-1/2 hard fought years of Invitational goodness, we finally have...

...To carry on!

DIAS is voted down, again. And the mood among the Norwegian Ladies, well, is it just PMS? Or maybe the exceedingly high proportion of centers occupied by opposing units this summer... Russia and Turkey make a land-grab, flexing their little-power muscle into Saint Pete, Sev, Bud, Rom, and even Spain, and forcing the Norwegians in Bohemia OTB. The French fall back to Belgium, taking some lumps of their own - losing their army in Silesia, and every first born into Turkish slavery. This is certainly going down as an unbelievable rags-to-riches, game...

What next?

Well, one easy retreat:
French F Rome can go to Tus, Apu, or OTB by tomorrow 3pm Central!

France:
F English Channel Supports A Holland - Belgium
F Gulf of Lyon - Western Mediterranean
A Holland - Belgium
F London - Wales
F Mid-Atlantic Ocean - Irish Sea
A Munich Supports A Tyrolia - Bohemia
F North Atlantic Ocean - Liverpool (*Bounce*)
A Rome Hold (*Dislodged*)
A Ruhr Supports A Munich
A Silesia - Galicia (*Disbanded*)
A Tyrolia - Bohemia

Russia:
F Black Sea - Sevastopol
A Moscow - St Petersburg
A Ukraine - Galicia (*Bounce*)
A Warsaw - Silesia

Turkey:
F Aegean Sea - Constantinople
A Constantinople - Bulgaria
F Ionian Sea - Adriatic Sea
F Naples - Rome
A Serbia - Budapest
A Smyrna - Ankara
F Tyrrhenian Sea Supports F Naples - Rome
F Venice Hold
F Western Mediterranean - Spain(sc)

Norway:
A Berlin Supports A Warsaw - Silesia
A Bohemia - Munich (*Disbanded*)
F Clyde - Liverpool (*Bounce*)
F Denmark - Kiel
A Galicia - Vienna
F Helgoland Bight Supports F Kiel - Holland
F Kiel - Holland
A Liverpool - Yorkshire
F Livonia - Prussia
F North Sea - Belgium (*Fails*)
F Norwegian Sea - North Sea (*Fails*)

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DCI s16 - Could it be?! (DC Invitational) FuzzyLogic May 07, 03:18 pm

DCI s16 - Could it be?! (DC Invitational) Nigs May 07, 04:39 pm

DCI s16 - Could it be?! (DC Invitational) pieandmash May 09, 01:14 am

so you wont be voting in 5 years?

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From: Nigel PHILLIPS <nephilli99(at)hotmail.com>
Subject: RE: DCI s16 - Could it be?!
To: "Mike Sims - new email" <mike(at)fuzzylogicllc.net>, "Dan Dzikowicz" <ddz999cat23(at)yahoo.com>, drew3739o(at)yahoo.com, "Garry DC" <kielmarch(at)hotmail.com>, "joe italy blitz 09" <jhack16(at)gmail.com>, "max victory d166 austria" <maxatrest(at)yahoo.co.uk>, "Mikael Johansson" <m_don_j(at)hotmail.com>, frankmartin(at)surewest.net, "Jorge England 214" <jmsaralegui(at)gmail.com>, "matt winter blitz - italy" <matthew.kremer(at)yale.edu>, "Adam DCI" <smegdwarf(at)yahoo.com>
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Date: Friday, 7 May, 2010, 22:39

I have just endured the British election without any winner and it looks much like this game. Its making me into a pacifist.

Nigs

DCI s16 - Could it be?! (DC Invitational) Nigs May 09, 02:33 am

More likely 5 months.
Nigs

Date: Sun, 9 May 2010 06:14:20 +0000
From: maxatrest(at)yahoo.co.uk
Subject: RE: DCI s16 - Could it be?!
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so you wont be voting in 5 years?

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From: Nigel PHILLIPS <nephilli99(at)hotmail.com>
Subject: RE: DCI s16 - Could it be?!
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Date: Friday, 7 May, 2010, 22:39

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I have just endured the British election without any winner and it looks much like this game. Its making me into a pacifist.

Nigs

Subject: DCI s16 - Could it be?!
Date: Fri, 7 May 2010 15:18:10 -0500
From: mike(at)fuzzylogicllc.net
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Whoops, Turkey ordered Smy-Arm, not Ank...
-mike

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Subject: DCI s16 - Could it be?!

Yes folks after 15-1/2 hard fought years of Invitational goodness, we finally have...

...To carry on!

DIAS is voted down, again. And the mood among the Norwegian Ladies, well, is it just PMS? Or maybe the exceedingly high proportion of centers occupied by opposing units this summer... Russia and Turkey make a land-grab, flexing their little-power muscle into Saint Pete, Sev, Bud, Rom, and even Spain, and forcing the Norwegians in Bohemia OTB. The French fall back to Belgium, taking some lumps of their own - losing their army in Silesia, and every first born into Turkish slavery. This is certainly going down as an unbelievable rags-to-riches, game...

What next?

Well, one easy retreat:
French F Rome can go to Tus, Apu, or OTB by tomorrow 3pm Central!

France:
F English Channel Supports A Holland - Belgium
F Gulf of Lyon - Western Mediterranean
A Holland - Belgium
F London - Wales
F Mid-Atlantic Ocean - Irish Sea
A Munich Supports A Tyrolia - Bohemia
F North Atlantic Ocean - Liverpool (*Bounce*)
A Rome Hold (*Dislodged*)
A Ruhr Supports A Munich
A Silesia - Galicia (*Disbanded*)
A Tyrolia - Bohemia

Russia:
F Black Sea - Sevastopol
A Moscow - St Petersburg
A Ukraine - Galicia (*Bounce*)
A Warsaw - Silesia

Turkey:
F Aegean Sea - Constantinople
A Constantinople - Bulgaria
F Ionian Sea - Adriatic Sea
F Naples - Rome
A Serbia - Budapest
A Smyrna - Ankara
F Tyrrhenian Sea Supports F Naples - Rome
F Venice Hold
F Western Mediterranean - Spain(sc)

Norway:
A Berlin Supports A Warsaw - Silesia
A Bohemia - Munich (*Disbanded*)
F Clyde - Liverpool (*Bounce*)
F Denmark - Kiel
A Galicia - Vienna
F Helgoland Bight Supports F Kiel - Holland
F Kiel - Holland
A Liverpool - Yorkshire
F Livonia - Prussia
F North Sea - Belgium (*Fails*)
F Norwegian Sea - North Sea (*Fails*)

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variants vs. standard - Kenshi777 (May 07, 2010, 2:24 pm)

too many variables to determine a significant trend. Much depends on
the balance of the variant, the skills of other players involved, and
how decent a game that I managed to deliver at that point in history.
That said - I think that you're right about the learning curve re:
alliance dynamics and nuances. I have noticed as a GM that repeat
players of my variants have usually improved their performances (or at
least the performances of their assigned country), even when the
variants underwent significant revisions between playtests. This
should be expected, for the same reason that seasoned veterans of
standard often wipe the floor with newbies. They've seen the traps
before (and know how to set some themselves), they know where the
stalemate lines are and where they need to be to break them, etc.
As for variants - it mostly depends on the map. The vast unwashed
masses of variants listed on dipwiki.com or variantbank.org are *not*
even close to balanced. So in that case, it's just luck of the draw
whether you got a favored position or not.
B.
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Just a curious question for some of those that have played a bunch of
different games - do you find that you perform better or worse at one or the
other?

My personal experience is that I am TERRIBLE at variants. I seem to perform
much better at the standard games. I just can't place if it is a comfort
level with having played them enough to understand the dynamic of alliances
and their nuances (where I typically haven't played any one variant twice)
or if it is that I tend to play less aggressively or what.

Would love to hear others' thoughts regarding this.

G

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variants vs. standard (Community) FuzzyLogic May 10, 08:25 am

A game is never luck of the draw. If you draw a favored nation, that should be just as unlucky as lucky, cuz the players should be more against you, whereas if you draw an unlucky nation, you should be able to use that to make more allies.

variants vs. standard (Community) Kenshi777 May 10, 11:25 am

to an extent, yes. this is true in variants with minor imbalances. I
would say that even Standard has minor imbalances, yet this dynamic
you describe makes all the positions playable. Major imbalances - the
sort that result in "forced" alliances - can remove this effect
though.
-
I have a simple rule of thumb for variant design, a question that
variant designers should critically ask themselves of each position on
their map.
-
...and that is, "does this player have at least two alliance options
with roughly equal incentive?"
-
If the answer is no, then the negotiating element of the game is
eliminated, and though there may remain an entertaining tactical
fight, the opening phase of the game at least becomes predictable when
one alliance is clearly the more profitable option than the other.
-
This is not always apparent prior to playtesting. Speaking from
painful experience, it is all too easy to get "tunnel vision" about a
particular positon as one is designing the map, and not realize that
an alliance pairing is forced.
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A game is never luck of the draw. If you draw a favored nation, that should
be just as unlucky as lucky, cuz the players should be more against you,
whereas if you draw an unlucky nation, you should be able to use that to
make more allies.

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variants vs. standard (Community) txurce May 10, 11:31 am

Mike has successfully hammered this point home to me on a few occasions by pointing out that the standard game is anything but balanced, and yet it's, uh, playable. Variants like A&E are purposely unbalanced, yet lead to spectacular conflicts. I tend to choose variants based on whether they seem like fun, which for me is a combination of unpredictability, opportunity for diplomacy or tactical variety, and a good-looking map.

variants vs. standard (Community) Sean2010 May 10, 12:46 pm

In my opinion, I'm better at Standard Diplomacy because I have a better understanding to the map's balance that dictates the map's dynamics through geography and geopolitics, which are included in its prequel Colonial Diplomacy although it's less played so I don't know that map's balance and dynamics well, and I'm more of a poor-medicore diplomat.

"Mike has successfully hammered this point home to me on a few occasions by pointing out that the standard game is anything but balanced, and yet it's, uh, playable."

The balance is through the whole map makeup. Standard Diplomacy is divided by the stalemate line dividing the sphere's of influence by 17-17 supply centers between the West-East sphere's of control. The stalemate line isn't totally a fixed position derived through the map's dynamics or players' decisions as the game progresses like Army v Fleet ratio.

variants vs. standard (Community) txurce May 10, 01:00 pm

Sean, by Standard Dip not being balanced I meant that, for example, most people would prefer not to draw Austria or Italy. You and Mike are correct in that other factors tend to make the game playable anyway (although it takes significant skill and luck to win with those two).

ACD236/DC288: Balkans1860 Spring 1866 Deadline Rem... - Kenshi777 (May 07, 2010, 2:05 pm)

Sorry for the late reminder - about two hours until the deadline! Get em in!
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ACD236/DC288: Balkans1860 Spring 1866 Deadline Reminder (dc288) Kenshi777 May 07, 04:00 pm

Youngstown Anyone? - Kenshi777 (May 07, 2010, 1:54 pm)

i should probably shut my mouth right now so as not to be perceived as
arrogant or offensive
but i can't
so...
Youngstown was okay - for its time. The variant design community has
come a long way since then however. The explosion of online groups in
the late 90s caused a sort of rebirth of the Diplomacy hobby, and
dramatically increased the opportunities for variant designers to
collaborate and refine their games.
Even the name Youngstown reflects this trend. The variant was
designed by a Dip community in Ohio that at the time still primarily
played face-to-face. Today, Diplomacy variants are subjected to a
truly global court of public opinion, one that expects much higher
standards of balance and aesthetics out of a variant. And rightly so.
Nothing is more annoying than drawing France in Colonial and knowing
the odds of even scraping out a survival are against you, or trying to
make sense of
Youngstown's off-board regions while looking at the unusual blob that
is supposed to represent Asia.
I have many fond memories of working with Don Hessong to playtest his
early versions of Ancient Med, and working with David Cohen to refine
Sengoku back in 2000. Out of these early partnerships, the DVWorkshop
was born, and though that group has certainly passed its heyday in
favor of gaming community groups like this one, the current group of
successful variant designers still collaborate extensively. Case in
point - Oliver Auth's recent coding of SengokuRev5 and South American
Supremacy for webDiplomacy, and Mario Huys' and Manus Hand's coding of
Sengoku Rev5 for the DPjudge. During those processes, all of them
contributed valuable advice obtained through playtesting.
I don't claim to be the authoritative voice in variant design, or that
mine are the best around. In fact, my favorite variants *aren't* my
own. Those honors go to Ancient Med, with up-and-coming variants like
Known World 901 and WW2-1931 deserving honorable mention. Nor do I
mean to be overly critical of Youngstown - just saying it needs a
facelift, and to be subjected to the same painful process of playtest
and revision that say, Ancient Med (finalized on Version 9) did.
B.
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Wow.

The Youngstown game is the most popular of the many Diplomacy variants.

That's quite a statement. I'd like to know where the writer of that article
came up w that. It's certainly not as popular (2 games) as say Ancient Med
(6 games) or Colonial (8 games) in terms of activity here at dc.

The original Youngstown variant was pretty pathetic. The rendering for
Realpolitik was choppy, with hard to understand off-board locations. A
couple years back tho it was redone, and the new one is actually quite nice.
I would say it's really good since the redo.

In my opinion, the desire for it comes from the two most popular games,
Standard and Colonial. It simply bridges the gap between the two.

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dc308 - Winter 1903 Results - z93blom (May 07, 2010, 1:40 pm)

Gentlemen,
We are once again entering a grace period as I have not received all orders that are due today. You are free to update/send in your orders until tomorrow. If you have a confirmation from me you're fine. I'll send out another notification to the parties who have not submitted orders.

Remember that you can always send in preliminary orders. They can be changed up to the deadline.

Next turn: Spring 1904 Movement

Next Deadline: Saturday, 8th of May, 18:00 GMT (6PM).

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variants vs. standard - garry.bledsoe (May 07, 2010, 1:30 pm)

Just a curious question for some of those that have played a bunch of different games - do you find that you perform better or worse at one or the other?

My personal experience is that I am TERRIBLE at variants. I seem to perform much better at the standard games. I just can't place if it is a comfort level with having played them enough to understand the dynamic of alliances and their nuances (where I typically haven't played any one variant twice) or if it is that I tend to play less aggressively or what.

Would love to hear others' thoughts regarding this.

G

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variants vs. standard (Community) Kenshi777 May 07, 02:24 pm

variants vs. standard (Community) FuzzyLogic May 10, 08:25 am

variants vs. standard (Community) Kenshi777 May 10, 11:25 am

variants vs. standard (Community) txurce May 10, 11:31 am

variants vs. standard (Community) Sean2010 May 10, 12:46 pm

variants vs. standard (Community) txurce May 10, 01:00 pm

variants vs. standard (Community) vegas_iwish May 10, 06:25 pm

I have always run tons of variants and faced the "romanticism" people have for standard. Even minor adjs that really improve (IMHO) the game like Milan somehow make the game "sacreligious"(yes have been hit with that term). When I was 10 I was already an SPI/AH wargamer; games with true realism; complexity; historical accuracy. Dip was a kids game played when had non-wargamers in a group. I never could get many WGs to play it once rules like beleagured garrisons; no supply lines; 1 german army not > 2 russian armies (tannenberg/mansurian lakes); etc came up. No variant can stretch dip up to the level of the wargames but they are what can get done so I do them. I'd sacrifice balance for historical feel any day but Standard & some variants work as games. I & A are not as big underdogs as people make them out. People get too caught up in the mysticism of dip vs just playing it.

variants vs. standard (Community) charlesf May 20, 06:27 pm

Just a curious question for some of those that have played a bunch of different games - do you find that you perform better or worse at one or the other?

My Diplomacy experience is rather limited, but no, I don't think my gaming performance has much at all to do with the variant at hand. The same basic skills are required in any Diplomacy variant.

I carefully study whatever scenario is thrown at me. Gaining a deeper understanding of the game's topography etc. is what's among the most fun aspects of playing Diplomacy. It's incidentally also the key to designing decent Diplomacy Variants, which I enjoy doing arguably at least as much as actually playing.

That being said, I have played only a very limited number of Standard Diplomacy games in my life. I'm a variant guy. Though I haven't played all that many variant games either - a function of playing at most two games at a time and not having been engaged in the hobby for a good number of years.

Anyway, for me, Standard is a bit of an irrelevance. The 1900 variant is imo the better "Standard". No other nation other than Germany remotely interests me in Standard, whereas I find all of 1900's powers sufficiently interesting.

variants vs. standard (Community) pieandmash May 21, 02:31 pm

better at variant.......i think because the standard map is so well known

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