A Lot of Repositioning In Storytime
Rogues and Undead Trade Positions After a Fashion - Time Will Tell Who Got the Better
Everyone Arrays VERY Defensively
A Naval Battle for the Ages Wages In Razor's Edge But The Ogren Navy Stands Firm
An Ogre Solo is Proposed
 
All,
We do have some retreats:
 
Undead F Timberlands can retreat to Istar or SAVAGE SEA.
Rogue F ZEBOIMS DEEP can retreat to Pwyll.
Troll F BABEL BEACH can retreat to SEA OF FALLEN STARS or Golgafrincham.

Obviously any of these can also go OTB. 

A Lot of Repositioning In Storytime
Rogues and Undead Trade Positions After a Fashion - Time Will Tell Who Got the Better
Everyone Arrays VERY Defensively
A Naval Battle for the Ages Wages In Razor's Edge But The Ogren Navy Stands Firm
An Ogre Solo is Proposed

All,
We do have some retreats:

Undead F Timberlands can retreat to Istar or SAVAGE SEA.
Rogue F ZEBOIMS DEEP can retreat to Pwyll.
Troll F BABEL BEACH can retreat to SEA OF FALLEN STARS or Golgafrincham.

Obviously any of these can also go OTB.

A Lot of Repositioning In Storytime
Rogues and Undead Trade Positions After a Fashion - Time Will Tell Who Got the Better
Everyone Arrays VERY Defensively
A Naval Battle for the Ages Wages In Razor's Edge But The Ogren Navy Stands Firm
An Ogre Solo is Proposed

All,
We do have some retreats:

Undead F Timberlands can retreat to Istar or SAVAGE SEA.
Rogue F ZEBOIMS DEEP can retreat to Pwyll.
Troll F BABEL BEACH can retreat to SEA OF FALLEN STARS or Golgafrincham.

Obviously any of these can also go OTB.

A Lot of Repositioning In Storytime
Rogues and Undead Trade Positions After a Fashion - Time Will Tell Who Got the Better
Everyone Arrays VERY Defensively
A Naval Battle for the Ages Wages In Razor's Edge But The Ogren Navy Stands Firm
An Ogre Solo is Proposed

All,
We do have some retreats:

Undead F Timberlands can retreat to Istar or SAVAGE SEA.
Rogue F ZEBOIMS DEEP can retreat to Pwyll.
Troll F BABEL BEACH can retreat to SEA OF FALLEN STARS or Golgafrincham.

Obviously any of these can also go OTB.

Hoffman, would you be ok w a draw here?  I'd say w the loss of WTH your chances of breaking this stalemate are gone.  You're not even bothering to order a lot of your units any more.
-mike
 


From: Mark Smith [mailto:sandiegosmith(at)hotmail.com ([email]sandiegosmith(at)hotmail.com[/email])]
Sent: Fri 3/26/2010 12:07 PM
Subject: RE: DC224 Spring 17: Give and Take


It wasn't me as I know the game is a draw.

Date: Fri, 26 Mar 2010 00:56:36 -0600
Subject: Re: DC224 Spring 17: Give and Take



Alright, who's the wise-acre?  Proposing "Ogre Solo", and it's not even April Fools yet!  Sims, is that you? Nice one!

Mike---------
"Shared Pain is lessened, Shared Joy is increased" --- Spider Robinson
"Whenever some act of wondrous power must be performed, Michael is sent" --- Pope Saint Gregory the Great


On Thu, Mar 25, 2010 at 6:45 PM, Garry Bledsoe <kielmarch(at)hotmail.com ([email]kielmarch(at)hotmail.com[/email])> wrote:
[quote:2d685973db] A Lot of Repositioning In Storytime
Rogues and Undead Trade Positions After a Fashion - Time Will Tell Who Got the Better
Everyone Arrays VERY Defensively
A Naval Battle for the Ages Wages In Razor's Edge But The Ogren Navy Stands Firm
An Ogre Solo is Proposed
 
All,
We do have some retreats:
 
Undead F Timberlands can retreat to Istar or SAVAGE SEA.
Rogue F ZEBOIMS DEEP can retreat to Pwyll.
Troll F BABEL BEACH can retreat to SEA OF FALLEN STARS or Golgafrincham.

Obviously any of these can also go OTB. 

Hoffman, would you be ok w a draw here? I'd say w the loss of WTH your chances of breaking this stalemate are gone. You're not even bothering to order a lot of your units any more.
-mike



From: Mark Smith [mailto:sandiegosmith(at)hotmail.com ([email]sandiegosmith(at)hotmail.com[/email])]
Sent: Fri 3/26/2010 12:07 PM
Subject: RE: DC224 Spring 17: Give and Take


It wasn't me as I know the game is a draw.

Date: Fri, 26 Mar 2010 00:56:36 -0600
Subject: Re: DC224 Spring 17: Give and Take



Alright, who's the wise-acre? Proposing "Ogre Solo", and it's not even April Fools yet! Sims, is that you? Nice one!

Mike---------
"Shared Pain is lessened, Shared Joy is increased" --- Spider Robinson
"Whenever some act of wondrous power must be performed, Michael is sent" --- Pope Saint Gregory the Great


On Thu, Mar 25, 2010 at 6:45 PM, Garry Bledsoe <kielmarch(at)hotmail.com ([email]kielmarch(at)hotmail.com[/email])> wrote:
[quote:e11bc3a2f0] A Lot of Repositioning In Storytime
Rogues and Undead Trade Positions After a Fashion - Time Will Tell Who Got the Better
Everyone Arrays VERY Defensively
A Naval Battle for the Ages Wages In Razor's Edge But The Ogren Navy Stands Firm
An Ogre Solo is Proposed

All,
We do have some retreats:

Undead F Timberlands can retreat to Istar or SAVAGE SEA.
Rogue F ZEBOIMS DEEP can retreat to Pwyll.
Troll F BABEL BEACH can retreat to SEA OF FALLEN STARS or Golgafrincham.

Obviously any of these can also go OTB.

Aha,

but you haven't accounted for Robin Hood the hidden Archer... we shall return from lurking and reclaim the free land


(well I keep reading these messages so I thought I should say something)


Nigs

Date: Fri, 26 Mar 2010 12:54:11 -0700
From: mvpenner(at)yahoo.com ([email]mvpenner(at)yahoo.com[/email])
Subject: RE: DC224 Spring 17: Give and Take

To: mrh(at)panix.com ([email]mrh(at)panix.com[/email]); mike(at)fuzzylogicllc.net ([email]mike(at)fuzzylogicllc.net[/email])
CC: sandiegosmith(at)hotmail.com ([email]sandiegosmith(at)hotmail.com[/email]); kielmarch(at)hotmail.com ([email]kielmarch(at)hotmail.com[/email]); dc224(at)diplomaticcorp.com ([email]dc224(at)diplomaticcorp.com[/email]); matthew.kremer(at)yale.edu ([email]matthew.kremer(at)yale.edu[/email]); kelly058(at)verizon.net ([email]kelly058(at)verizon.net[/email]); ndeily(at)yahoo.com ([email]ndeily(at)yahoo.com[/email]); congressofvienna1814(at)yahoo.com ([email]congressofvienna1814(at)yahoo.com[/email]); nephilli99(at)hotmail.com ([email]nephilli99(at)hotmail.com[/email]); rbristol(at)cogeco.ca ([email]rbristol(at)cogeco.ca[/email]); sucastag(at)wanadoo.fr ([email]sucastag(at)wanadoo.fr[/email]); alwayshunted(at)hotmail.com ([email]alwayshunted(at)hotmail.com[/email]); maxatrest(at)yahoo.co.uk ([email]maxatrest(at)yahoo.co.uk[/email])


To be fair... he said I was the one who knows what he really wants... so that wouldn't leave the R/O/P out of the question.

Personally, I'm just happy to still be in this game.  What was looking really grim when I thought I had a O/T coming at me has turn into discussions of whether or not to include me in the draw?  Fascinating.

Anyway, here's to finding a solution we can all live with.

Cap'n Penner the Pirate
Tamer of the Neverwood





Got a cool Hotmail story? Tell us now

Oh come on Mike, who do you want out?  You tell me you want an R/O/P, so what of the Faeries, Trolls and Undead?  Will you state publicly the R/O/P is your goal, or is that just what you tell me privately?  I like to play for a good ending as much as anyone, but any stabs in the northern 4 will lead to an Ogre solo, so we're left w a stalemate.  Last time we talked you said something like "Suzanne knows what I really want".  If that's the case then surely she doesnt really want an R/O/P, cuz I'm sure she's want my head on a stake.  So then why make up the fake offers to me?
-mike
 


From: offdisc(at)gmail.com ([email]offdisc(at)gmail.com[/email]) on behalf of Mike Hoffman

Sent: Fri 3/26/2010 2:18 PM
To: Michael Sims

Subject: Re: DC224 Spring 17: Give and Take





I ordered all the units I needed to order, and one additional unit I didn't have.  You telling me that not ordering Mt Nimro cost me anything?  Come on.

Anyway, I'm willing to draw, but not right now.  And I voted NO to the Ogre Solo, just to prove my point that a draw is my intention, but I want it down to a 4-way at best.  Same as I've said all along.

Mike---------
"Shared Pain is lessened, Shared Joy is increased" --- Spider Robinson
"Whenever some act of wondrous power must be performed, Michael is sent" --- Pope Saint Gregory the Great


On Fri, Mar 26, 2010 at 11:55 AM, Michael Sims <mike(at)fuzzylogicllc.net ([email]mike(at)fuzzylogicllc.net[/email])> wrote:
[quote:64bf07c8b1] Hoffman, would you be ok w a draw here?  I'd say w the loss of WTH your chances of breaking this stalemate are gone.  You're not even bothering to order a lot of your units any more.
-mike
 


From: Mark Smith [mailto:sandiegosmith(at)hotmail.com ([email]sandiegosmith(at)hotmail.com[/email])]
Sent: Fri 3/26/2010 12:07 PM
Subject: RE: DC224 Spring 17: Give and Take


It wasn't me as I know the game is a draw.

Date: Fri, 26 Mar 2010 00:56:36 -0600
Subject: Re: DC224 Spring 17: Give and Take



Alright, who's the wise-acre?  Proposing "Ogre Solo", and it's not even April Fools yet!  Sims, is that you? Nice one!

Mike---------
"Shared Pain is lessened, Shared Joy is increased" --- Spider Robinson
"Whenever some act of wondrous power must be performed, Michael is sent" --- Pope Saint Gregory the Great


On Thu, Mar 25, 2010 at 6:45 PM, Garry Bledsoe <kielmarch(at)hotmail.com ([email]kielmarch(at)hotmail.com[/email])> wrote:
[quote:64bf07c8b1] A Lot of Repositioning In Storytime
Rogues and Undead Trade Positions After a Fashion - Time Will Tell Who Got the Better
Everyone Arrays VERY Defensively
A Naval Battle for the Ages Wages In Razor's Edge But The Ogren Navy Stands Firm
An Ogre Solo is Proposed
 
All,
We do have some retreats:
 
Undead F Timberlands can retreat to Istar or SAVAGE SEA.
Rogue F ZEBOIMS DEEP can retreat to Pwyll.
Troll F BABEL BEACH can retreat to SEA OF FALLEN STARS or Golgafrincham.

Obviously any of these can also go OTB. 

You know the common theme to every one of those proposals?  “O”.  The Ogres

Hey everyone,

We've been battling for a year and a half now.  With the falling of the
Knights, I dont see any power left that I can attack by which doing so would
not lead to an Ogre win.  Thus I'm content to call it a 6-way draw here.
What does everyone think?  If no, would any combination of draws
disincluding any players be acceptable?

Or Mike is a solo the only option?  What draw would be acceptable to you?

Guildmaster Mike
Leader of the Immensely Secret Rogue Clans of the Tri-Continental Haven
World and its Subsidiaries

Hey everyone,

We've been battling for a year and a half now. With the falling of the
Knights, I dont see any power left that I can attack by which doing so would
not lead to an Ogre win. Thus I'm content to call it a 6-way draw here.
What does everyone think? If no, would any combination of draws
disincluding any players be acceptable?

Or Mike is a solo the only option? What draw would be acceptable to you?

Guildmaster Mike
Leader of the Immensely Secret Rogue Clans of the Tri-Continental Haven
World and its Subsidiaries

"I've laid out end-game plans to most of you"

Sure, but you're laying out different end-game plans to everyone.  To me you
offer a 2-way if I'll stab the Faeries or Trolls, and I guess a similar bait
to everyone else - share a draw w the Trolls if they'd help you fight me?
Promise Suzanne a draw if she helps you against the Faeries?  Promise Penner
a draw if he'll help you w the Trolls?  Then tell me you want to take out
both the Trolls and the Pirates playing them off against each other plus the
Faeries and Undead too?  Does Penner know (for example) the same order of
elimination that you're telling me?  And is he ok w that?

If you really don't want a solo, then lay out who you think the 3- or 4-
should be, where you aren't telling everyone completely opposite things to
keep everyone fighting.

-mike


________________________________
From: offdisc(at)gmail.com on behalf of Mike Hoffman
Sent: Fri 3/5/2010 2:11 PM
To: Michael Sims
Subject: Re: dc224 draws?

Many Thanks to Mike, for boosting my ego to the realm of bursting!  An
Ogre Solo?  Wow!  I've heard rumors of this from several players, but
never really saw it coming to fruition, especially since the earliest
mentions were when I only had 13 centers!

If my next statement causes everyone to gang up on me, I'm ready ---
but I will vote NO to a 6-way draw!  The board is large enough that I
can sit back and let you guys fight it out, but unless we get down to
a 3-way or 4-way draw, that is how my vote will be cast.

Some of you already know that I will support you to the end.  The
rest, I simply have no ability or desire to do so.  I've laid out
end-game plans to most of you, and you've all expressed interest in
seeing those plans come through.  So I leave it to you all now to make
it happen.

It's been a great game!  Let's see it through to its logical end, not
an easy out because someone is tired of playing (just kidding
Mike!!!).

Michael
---------
"Shared Pain is lessened, Shared Joy is increased" --- Spider Robinson
"Whenever some act of wondrous power must be performed, Michael is
sent" --- Pope Saint Gregory the Great



On Fri, Mar 5, 2010 at 12:27 PM, Michael Sims <mike(at)fuzzylogicllc.net>
wrote:
[quote:996a3efae3]Hey everyone,

We've been battling for a year and a half now.  With the falling of the
Knights, I dont see any power left that I can attack by which doing so
would
not lead to an Ogre win.  Thus I'm content to call it a 6-way draw here.
What does everyone think?  If no, would any combination of draws
disincluding any players be acceptable?

Or Mike is a solo the only option?  What draw would be acceptable to you?

Guildmaster Mike
Leader of the Immensely Secret Rogue Clans of the Tri-Continental Haven
World and its Subsidiaries

Date: Fri, 5 Mar 2010 14:00:06 -0700
Subject: Re: dc224 draws?
From: mrh(at)panix.com
To: mike(at)fuzzylogicllc.net
CC: kielmarch(at)hotmail.com; dc224(at)diplomaticcorp.com; sandiegosmith(at)hotmail.com; matthew.kremer(at)yale.edu; kelly058(at)verizon.net; mvpenner(at)yahoo.com; ndeily(at)yahoo.com; congressofvienna1814(at)yahoo.com; nephilli99(at)hotmail.com; rbristol(at)cogeco.ca; sucastag(at)wanadoo.fr; alwayshunted(at)hotmail.com; maxatrest(at)yahoo.co.uk

To respond or not to respond... to dignify a "theory" attack, or let
it slide.....

I'll take the middle road -- a partial response. Pirates know my
exact plans, Suzanne has some ideas. Warren *used to* know, but those
changed.

If you ask them what they know, you'll have to decide whether or not
to trust how they respond.

Mike


On Fri, Mar 5, 2010 at 1:50 PM, Michael Sims <mike(at)fuzzylogicllc.net> wrote:
[quote:6f4cb9b30b]"I've laid out end-game plans to most of you"

Sure, but you're laying out different end-game plans to everyone. To me you
offer a 2-way if I'll stab the Faeries or Trolls, and I guess a similar bait
to everyone else - share a draw w the Trolls if they'd help you fight me?
Promise Suzanne a draw if she helps you against the Faeries? Promise Penner
a draw if he'll help you w the Trolls? Then tell me you want to take out
both the Trolls and the Pirates playing them off against each other plus the
Faeries and Undead too? Does Penner know (for example) the same order of
elimination that you're telling me? And is he ok w that?

If you really don't want a solo, then lay out who you think the 3- or 4-
should be, where you aren't telling everyone completely opposite things to
keep everyone fighting.

-mike


________________________________
From: offdisc(at)gmail.com on behalf of Mike Hoffman
Sent: Fri 3/5/2010 2:11 PM
To: Michael Sims
Subject: Re: dc224 draws?

Many Thanks to Mike, for boosting my ego to the realm of bursting! An
Ogre Solo? Wow! I've heard rumors of this from several players, but
never really saw it coming to fruition, especially since the earliest
mentions were when I only had 13 centers!

If my next statement causes everyone to gang up on me, I'm ready ---
but I will vote NO to a 6-way draw! The board is large enough that I
can sit back and let you guys fight it out, but unless we get down to
a 3-way or 4-way draw, that is how my vote will be cast.

Some of you already know that I will support you to the end. The
rest, I simply have no ability or desire to do so. I've laid out
end-game plans to most of you, and you've all expressed interest in
seeing those plans come through. So I leave it to you all now to make
it happen.

It's been a great game! Let's see it through to its logical end, not
an easy out because someone is tired of playing (just kidding
Mike!!!).

Michael
---------
"Shared Pain is lessened, Shared Joy is increased" --- Spider Robinson
"Whenever some act of wondrous power must be performed, Michael is
sent" --- Pope Saint Gregory the Great



On Fri, Mar 5, 2010 at 12:27 PM, Michael Sims <mike(at)fuzzylogicllc.net>
wrote:
[quote:6f4cb9b30b]Hey everyone,

We've been battling for a year and a half now. With the falling of the
Knights, I dont see any power left that I can attack by which doing so
would
not lead to an Ogre win. Thus I'm content to call it a 6-way draw here.
What does everyone think? If no, would any combination of draws
disincluding any players be acceptable?

Or Mike is a solo the only option? What draw would be acceptable to you?

Guildmaster Mike
Leader of the Immensely Secret Rogue Clans of the Tri-Continental Haven
World and its Subsidiaries